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From YouTube: June 24, 2020 Minneapolis 360 on KMOJ 89.9 FM
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June 24, 2020: Historical trauma. Dr. Lolita King, senior clinical psychologist at Hennepin County Medical Center, discusses historical trauma, how it affects many and ways to heal from it.
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Everybody
to
Minneapolis
360,
it
has
been
a
while,
since
we
have
been
on
we've
taken
a
few
weeks
off
just
to
get
adjusted.
I
want
to
make
sure
folks
understand
and
we
will
be
here,
but
in
the
interim
we
had
to
make
sure
that
things
were
right
and
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
our
community.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
tuning
in
I'm
always
blessed
to
be
having
this
show
and
being
part
of
what
I
think
are.
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Hopefully
good
information
and
good
resources
to
people,
as
we
always
been
giving
you
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here.
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
was
important
today
was
to
talk
about.
What's
going
on
in
our
city,
we
experienced
a
devastating
travesty,
a
tragedy
with
the
death
of
George
Floyd
and
how
that's
turned
into
a
movement
throughout
the
world.
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But,
as
we
all
know,
you
know,
these
are
cumulative
effects
on
some
of
the
things
that
we
feel
that's
been
happening
for
us
as
black
folks
in
our
country.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
bring
a
guest
on
the
talk,
a
lot
today
about
historical
trauma
and
how
it
shows
up
in
our
community
some
signs
and
symptoms
and
really
talk
about
healing
with
trauma
and
what
exactly
historical
trauma
is.
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We've
talked
about
this
before
Minneapolis,
but
it's
always
I
think
good
to
come
back
to
these
reminders
about
what
some
of
those
things
look
like
and
how
things
are
affecting
you
in
your
body
that
you
may
not
even
know
exist.
If
you
remember,
we
had
resum
american
come
on
last
year
after
we
had
the
tragedy
with
Thurman
vallevan,
so
I
got
a
special
guest
I'll
introduce
her
in
a
second,
but
one
thing:
I
want
to
make
sure
we
do
understand
that
colvett
is
still
alive
in
Minneapolis.
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So
again,
as
we've
been
doing
for
the
last
four
months
is
give
you
some
real,
quick
updates
on
what's
going
on
and
with
the
kovat
numbers,
we
are
at
33
thousand
seven
hundred
sixty
three
confirmed
cases
in
Minnesota,
4390
of
those
are
in
Minneapolis
and
out
of
all
of
those
are
tested,
our
21%
to
be
african-american
statewide
in
the
city.
It
is
32,
so
we
are
still
kind
of
in
a
holding
pattern.
So
to
speak
earlier.
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We
were
really
spiking
every
week
when
the
show
was
weekly
but
again,
I
want
to
remind
folks
to
continue
to
wear
their
masks,
stay
safe
in
public
and
Kim
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
that
I've
been
seeing
that
that's
really
been
something
that's
filled.
My
heart
is
that,
with
a
lot
of
the
protests
and
rallies,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
are
wearing
masks
and
I.
See
it
a
lot
I,
don't
know.
If
you
see
that
or
been
hearing
about
that
as.
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Beautiful
and
I
was
actually
a
New
Salem
yesterday
volunteering
for
the
testing
site,
so
there
were
a
lot
of
people
coming
up,
walking
up
for
testing
and
wearing
masks,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that,
but
just
real,
quick,
some
more
information
with
the
peacetime
emergency
with
Tim
Wallace
as
extended.
So
that
still
means
that
you
have
protections
against
evictions
and
wage
garnishment.
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There's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
opening
up
so
I
know.
Businesses
have
plans
about
in
place
to
keep
people
safe,
so
evictions
and
landlord
and
intended
terminations
are
now,
in
effect,
till
the
13th
of
July,
which
means
that
you
cannot
be
evicted
from
your
home
because
of
lack
of
payment.
Now
remember
to
also
Minneapolis,
you
still
have
to
pay
your
rent,
so
this
doesn't
mean
that
Rin
is
not
excluded,
but
you
have
eviction
protections
until
July,
13th
and
also
to
just
remember.
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It
doesn't
mean
that
that
you
can't
get
evicting
for
different
things
that
endangers
folks.
So
I
mean
you
can't
be
out
here
doing
reckless
things
in
your
home
or
your
apartment.
You
can
still
get
evicted
for
that
and
can't
blame
them
or
put
it
on
the
peacetime
emergency.
Absolutely
absolutely
so.
I
am
glad
that
that
we
are
wearing
more
masks.
There
is
some
more
money
coming.
We've
done
a
lot
of
different
initiatives
throughout
this
time
before
George,
Floyd's,
murder,
about
initiatives
with
gap,
funding
and
things
like
that,
for
small
business
and
for
households.
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There
is
a
grant
coming
out
this
week
for
small
business
relief
grants
and
it's
taking
applications
until
July
or
July
2nd
Thursday.
So
these
grants
provide
$10,000
to
businesses
with
50
or
fewer
full-time
employees.
So
to
learn
more
about
that,
please
go
to
MN
Gulf,
slash
deed
for
that
again
50
or
fewer
full
time,
employees,
your
elavil
for
$10,000
grants.
So
that's
a
lot
Minneapolis!
Please
go
to
the
website
and
check
that
out,
but
I
want
to
introduce
my
special
guest
today.
I
am
so
happy
that
this
assistant
be
able
to
come
on
their
show.
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Every
clinical
psychologist,
I
need
with
individuals
and
families
to
help
them
to
overcome
barriers
that
impede
their
ability
to
function
in
all
areas
of
life.
So
we
look
at
the
spiritual,
the
emotional,
the
physical
well-being
of
our
community
and
try
to
assist
them
in
creating
new
ways
of
being
that
are
more
healthy
and
allowed
them
to
meet
their
goals
in
life
and.
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That's
something
I
think
that's
there's
vital
in
our
our
community,
especially
with
what
we're
dealing
with
now
as
a
as
a
city
and
as
a
society,
and
and
if
we
talk
about
taking
care
of
ourselves,
we
talk
about
trauma
kind
of
explain
what
what
you
mean
when
you
say
trauma
and
like.
What's
the
difference
between
or
if
there
is
a
slight
difference
between
trauma
and
historical
trauma
in
our
community
sure.
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So
psychological
trauma
represents
an
emotional
state
of
discomfort
and
stress
that
results
from
memory
or
our
result
of
extraordinary
or
catastrophic
experiences.
So
what
it
typically
does
is
shatters
a
survivor
sense
of
safety.
So
this
could
be
one
event
or
it
could
be
multiple
events,
but
what
gets
disrupted
is
the
person's
ability
to
kind
of
relax
and
calm
down
and
believe
that
they
are
safe
in
their
existence.
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So
that's
trauma
in
a
nutshell
and
it's
different
from
historical
trauma,
because
historical
trauma
is
the
accumulative
effects
right.
So
it's
a
cumulative
emotional
and
psychological
wounding
and
you
can
find
us
in
individuals
or
groups
and
it's
caused
by
traumatic
experiences
or
events,
and
this
can
be
any
group
that
has
experienced
significant
traumatic
experiences.
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C
There
are
cost
to
have
experienced
segregation,
police
brutality,
so
on
and
so
forth
that
gets
trickled
down
to
the
next
generation
and
the
next
generation,
because
what
has
happened
is
that
our
people
have
learned
to
adapt
right
in
order
to
survive,
but
if
perhaps
cost
them
some
things
in
terms
of
their
ability
to
feel
safe
and
secure
or
their
ability
to
relax
or
their
ability
to
be
free
of
disease,
chronic
diseases
and
so
on.
So
what
happens
is
that
the
the
individuals
find
ways
to
survive,
but
oftentimes?
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It
does
not
lend
itself
to
being
able
to
function
in
a
way
that
other
groups
have
not
experienced
so
you're,
seeing
mom
and
grandma
up
in
it
operating
in
a
way
that
you
don't
understand,
but
it
works.
So
we
have
to
realize
that
our
perceptions
of
the
world,
the
way
we
move
in
and
out
of
different
circumstances
is
based
on
what
we've
learned,
either
verbally
or
just
through
our
DNA.
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Correct
correct
yeah,
so
you
you
notice
that
for
persons
who
experience
complex
historical
traumas
they're
there,
sometimes
an
inability
to
function
in
areas
such
as
work,
you
know,
or
school
or
families,
in
terms
of
being
able
to
develop
and
secure
healthy
relationships
with
families
and
friends,
it
lends
itself
to
persons
self-medicating,
sometimes
by
acceptance,
abuse,
alcohol
use
or
withdrawal
from
you
know
responsibility,
and
they
don't
necessarily
know
that.
This
is
why
I'm
doing
these
behaviors,
but
there's
something
about
the
experiences
that
they've
been
handed.
B
We
are
with
dr.
Lowe
leader
King.
We
are
talking
today
about
historical
trauma.
She
just
dropped
some
really
good
analogies
about
some
of
the
things
that
that
happened
into
generationally
would
folks
and
what
we
see
to
do
to
adapt
to
some
of
these
things.
We
really
don't
even
notice
that
that
we're
dealing
with
as
far
as
trauma,
so
if
if
I
was
just
and
I
am
so
I'm
a
person
and
I'm
figuring
out
like
things
are
happening
to
me
and
I
I,
don't
really
understand
why
and
it's
infused
with
with
trauma.
Are
there
signs?
B
C
So
perhaps
you
might
have
someone
who's
very
hyper
vigilant,
meaning
that
when
they're
out
and
about
they're,
constantly
checking
their
surroundings
for
safety-
or
you
know,
they're
super
alert.
I've
had
some
patients
tell
me
that
immediately
when
they,
when
they
enter
a
room,
they
find
a
space
where
the
easy
access
out
and
that
they.
C
Their
back
to
the
door,
for
example,
there
could
be
anger,
fits
of
rage,
irritability,
difficulty,
sleeping
concentrating
and
there's
also
distance
of
you
know
a
change
in
how
people
look
at
the
world
or
view
the
world,
so
it
might
be.
Nobody
can
be
trusted,
for
example,
or
thoughts
that
you
know
I'd
be
better
off
dead
because
there's
nothing
to
live
for.
So
it's
a
hopelessness.
C
They
may
say
that
in
and
then,
depending
upon
the
traumatic
event,
a
person
experiences
there
might
be
some
guilt
or
shame
that
is
associated
with
that
in
terms
of
a
belief
that
you
know,
I
need
this
happen
to
me
or,
but
for
me,
acting
or
not
acting
around
an
event.
I
should
have
changed
the
outcome
and
those
are
the
things
that
need
to
be
worked
out
in
therapy,
for
example.
So.
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A
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C
What
are
the
experiences
underneath
that
that
a
cautious
person
to
react
in
ways
that
may
not
serve
them,
but
is
the
way
in
which
they
know
how
to
express
themselves?
And
they
don't
have
the
word
to
really
be
able
to
either
explain
it
to
themselves
or
others
about?
What's
going
on
and
on
the
inside
they're
only
seeing
a
symptom,
but
not
the
conditions
of
which
created
it.
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C
I
was
just
thinking
that
one
of
the
things
that
I've
often
encouraged
people
to
talk
about
is
what
are
those
things
that
are
underneath
that
but
other
that
people
that
go
unnoticed.
So
you
know
what
are
the
beliefs?
What
did
what
did
that
mean
to
you
to
have
that
happened
to
you?
That's
when
you
start
to
see
people
able
to
identify
identify
a
range
of
emotions,
not
just
those
that
get
triggered
when
a
person
gets
threatened
or
perceived
threats
from
their
environment,
so
they
making
sense
of
that
label.
C
Other
emotions,
you
know-
sometimes
it's
just
restricted.
I
only-
can
feel
angry,
because
that
activates
me,
you
know
if
it's
something
that
works
you
might
here
or
trauma
can
lead
to
depression
right
anxiety.
You
know
you're,
always
fearful.
You
think
something
bad
is
going
to
happen.
So
it
plays
a
big
role
in
mental
health
and
there's
misunderstanding
that
that
things
happen
and
people
just
kind
of
get
over
it.
You
know
most
of
the
time
people
figure
out
ways
to
keep
surviving,
but
that
doesn't
mean
they're
living,
meaningful
lives
and.
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B
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A
They
don't
talk
about
it
or
they're,
like
things
that
happened
in
our
house
are
supposed
to
stay
in
our
house
and
that
go
outside
of
that.
So
then,
like
you
said
they
do
resort
to
substance,
abuse
or
when
they
are
out
in
the
public
and
whatever
it
is,
that
fix
that
they
gotta
have
that
they
fall
okay,
well,
I'm
gonna
get
money
then
or
I'm
gonna,
drink.
B
A
C
Sure,
and,
and
also
you
know,
since
there
has
been
a
stigma
around
mental
health
in
our
community.
Some
people
believe
that
you
know
that's
air
in
their
business
or
there's
a
misconception
that
people
are
doing
things
to
you
when
you
come
to
therapy,
but
it's
actually
just
phase
private
protective
things
where
you
can
really
sort
out
what
has
happened
and
what
you
made
that
mean
to
you.
C
We
we
often
talk
about
behaviors,
but
we,
if
we
don't
know
where
they
come
from,
and
why
we
behave
in
those
ways
or
we're
not
able
to
engage
in
certain
things
that
would
allow
us
to
be
less
isolated
and
to
progress
with
our
goals
and
dreams.
Then
we're
kind
of
just
stuck
in
my
holding
pattern
just
simply
trying
to
make
it
day
by
day,
yeah.
C
B
I
wanna
I
want
to
touch
on
something
that
you
said,
dr.
keenness,
that's
really
important.
It's
like
the
collective
trauma
and
I
think
what
people
I
want.
People
understand
and
again
I'm,
not
an
expert,
so
I
want
to
pretend
it
that
I
am
but
I'll
speak
for
me
specifically,
you
know
maybe
I
don't
maybe
experience
you
know
trauma
at
at
a
certain
point
in
time,
but
when
I
see
trauma
happens
to
our
people
all
over
across
this
country,
yeah.
C
B
C
Absolutely
so,
if
we
take,
for
example,
mister
and
a
little
Lloyd
murder
more
recently
here
in
Minneapolis,
every
one
kind
of
that
I've
talked
to
talked
about
that
thinking
feeling
up
here.
It
is
again
here
we
go
again,
and
so,
even
though
it
didn't
happen
to
us
in
particular
witnessing
something
in
fashion.
B
C
B
C
To
what
happened
to
mom
and
what
happened
to
Grandma
and
what
happened
to
the
the
person's
they
came
over
on
the
flagship
and
the
lynchings
we
hold
that
in
our
DNA.
And
so,
if
we're
already
set
up
with
this
hyper
arousal
that
we
are
always
perceiving
danger,
whether
it's
real
or
not.
Because
that's
what
people's
alive,
then
we
are
on
a
higher
likelihood
of
being
being
reactive
right
and
not
knowing
where
to
put
that.
So
we
have
to
unpack
that
and
and
speak
to
white.
C
Where
are
you
sensing
that
in
your
body,
because
we
all
hold
pain
and
memories
in
different
ways?
It's
not
just
in
the
memory,
but
it
affects
your
whole
system
in
your
body
and
that's
why
we
have
to
be
real
mindful
of
the
connection
between
the
mind
and
the
body
and
trauma
and
how
that
shows
up
for
our
people,
which
you
will
see
more
chronic
diseases,
quite
often
with
a
population
group
with
experienced
significant,
traumatic
events
over
decades.
B
That's
really
really
really
I
think
something
that's
important
to
acknowledge
and,
and
that's
actually
just
very
real-
and
this
is
such
an
important
topic
just
unfortunately,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time.
We
could
talk
for
hours
on
this
and
I
would
love
to
hear.
You
speak
more
about
a
lot
of
this
because
it
is
really
hit
its
home,
especially
in
the
times
that
we're
dealing
with
now
so
I
want
to
just
focus
on.
Is
we've
got
about
a
couple
more
minutes
to
go.
Dr.
B
C
Sure
sure
Healing
is
a
process,
and
so
I
want
to
put
that
out
there,
because
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
people,
particularly
in
our
younger
generations.
They
they
want
things
instantly
and
unfortunately,
healing
can
sometimes
be
a
long
process,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
happen
all
at
once.
So
you
can
get
an
understanding
of
something
and
it
allows
you
to
move
forward,
and
then
you
come
back
to
that
and
maybe
they
do
therapy
a
little
bit
later.
C
But
basically
healing
is
going
to
require
that
people
have
access
to
help
and
that
may
be
physical,
health,
mental
health,
spiritual
health.
So
at
Northpoint,
all
of
our
staff
are
have
been
trained
in
trauma-informed
care.
So
what
that
basically
means
is
that
as
providers
recognize
the
historical
barriers
that
have
been
created
in
our
communities,
and
so
there
is
a
awareness
and
a
space
for
people
to
come
in
and
we
meet
people
where
they
are
in
those
processes
of
gaining
health.
C
A
C
We
have
a
very
diverse
staff
of
providers,
we
have
Hmong
speak
and
we
have
groups
that
are
specifically
for
different
groups,
so
we
have
spanish-speaking,
have
interpreters.
So
we
see
a
wide
range
of
people.
We
have
a
least
three
female
african-american,
therapists
and
I
want
to
say
the
reason
for
Mills
until
we
do
have
those
that
with
four
vertices
people
are
their
own
culture
and
hope
we
do
have
that
available
availability.
But
no,
we
have
a
diverse
staff
of
providers
at
Northpoint
because
we.
C
Absolutely
right
now
we're
doing
telehealth
visits
via
telephone
and
video,
and
also
we
have
staff
that
are
on-site
and
the
way
to
schedule.
An
appointment
is
to
call
six
one.
Two
five,
four
three,
two
five,
zero,
zero
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
we
do
have
a
testing
clinic
for
kovat
and
you
only
need
to
combat
same
number.
Six
one,
two,
five,
four
three,
two:
five:
zero
zero
and
you
can
do
the
driver
clinic
or
you
can
do
walk-in
or
I'm.
B
Great
information
and
I
know
folks
in
the
community
love
the
fact
that
North
Point
is
been
around
it
and
stayed
there
and
has
always
been
a
big
part
of
North
Minneapolis.
So
I
appreciate
you
giving
that
information.
Dr.
King
says
I
am
so
happy
that
you
were
able
to
join
us
today
and
I
appreciate
you
being
on
the
show
and
and
and
and
telling
folks
exactly
everything
that
I
think
was
important
around
this
time
to
understand
so
sister
I
appreciate
you
and
having
your
presence
on
our
show
today.
Thank.