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A
A
We'll
have
a
review
of
the
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting.
Has
everyone
had
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes
from
the
previous
meeting.
A
B
B
C
You're
not
adding
that
12
by
14
to
the
back.
I
thought
I
saw
where
you
were
adding
owned
to
the
back
of
it.
B
F
Yeah,
madam
chair,
I
think
yeah,
is
that
you
want
me
to
go
garage
the
addition
to
the
back,
because
on
one
plane
they
show
a
garage
edition.
F
C
B
Saying
now,
yes,
that
is
not
actually
a
garage.
It's
a
porch.
B
C
B
Okay
for
the
existing
structure,
that's
on
the
property
right
now
is
a
duplex,
and
you
can
see
from
the
preliminary
plat
that
we're
going
to
modify
the
duplex
and
also
add
four
additional
detached
homes.
So
you
can
see
the
outlines
of
those
on
the
prelim
preliminary
plat,
so
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
we're
requesting
is
for
changes
to
the
duplex
and
to
add
the
additional
structures
in
the
mhdo
district.
A
I'll
add
that
you
know
standard
nine
says
that,
in
addition
to
a
historic
property
should
be
carried
out
in
a
contemporary
design
that
is
compatible
with
the
existing
property
or
neighborhood
in
color
scale,
material
and
character,
and
I
do
feel
like
these
additional
buildings
they're
done
in
such
close
proximity
to
the
original
historic
structure
that
I
feel
that
that
standard
is
applicable,
and
I
do
feel
like
that.
You
know
they
are
contemporary.
I
do
feel
like
that.
B
C
C
C
C
B
B
C
B
B
Well,
the
the
issue
then
so
for
this
district,
it's
a
multi-high
density
area
and
to
get
the
high
density
that
fits
into
the
requirements
of
the
mhdo
district.
That
type
of
plan
isn't
going
to
fit.
It
will
that
it
will
it's.
I
guess
I
don't
know
which
ones
you're
referring
to
on
davis
street.
B
E
They're,
pretty
they're
pretty
nice-sized
houses
on
small
lots,
mm-hmm.
C
C
We
allow
the
duplex
to
be
turned
into
a
single
family
home.
Do
we
have
a
second.
A
E
A
E
C
B
G
C
Tabled
the
plans
that
she
submitted
for
the
two-story
houses
come
back
with
some
appropriate
plans
or
pictures
that
are
more
appropriate
for
the
neighborhood.
Do
we
have
a
second.
A
Do
you,
okay,
we
would
table,
we
have
a
motion
to
table
the
additional
structures
to
when
is
that
next
preservation,
the
hbc
meeting.
A
A
Let's
back
up
request
for
signage
106
south
broad
street:
what
action
will
we
take
on
that.
F
We
prefer
to
hear
that
next
month
and
are
I
mean
they're
not
here,
to
speak
to
typically.
F
A
10106
south
broad
is
tabled
a
request
for
exterior
changes
to
windows,
siding
and
gutters
for
254
north
north
broad
street
is
the
applicant
present.
Okay,.
D
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
good
evening,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Let
me
come
before
you
and
ask
for
permission
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
update
the
exterior
of
254
north
broad
street.
I
provided
in
advance
some
information.
I
assume
that
you
all
have
that
my
intent
with
this
project
is
to
maintain
the
property
in
its
current
appearance.
I
am
asking
the
board
to
allow
me
to
update
the
exterior
in
some
areas
with
hardy
plank
siding.
I
have
hardy
plank
existing
on
the
property
in
a
wide
variety
of
areas.
D
H
C
E
D
It
is
my
current
intention.
I
have
weights
and
pulleys
inside
the
walls.
I
would
like
to
retain
those
if
I'm
able
to
I've
got
a
specialty.
Millworks
company
works,
that's
going
to
use
composite
material
to
make
exact
replicas
of
the
current
windows
out
of
composite
trex
decking.
So
it's
not
wood,
but
it
looks
just
like.
A
E
E
D
H
A
G
A
G
A
A
Okay,
next,
one
exterior
changes
for
awning,
I
believe,
is
that
the
next
one-
yes
116
north
broad
street.
A
H
E
H
H
They
would
prefer
black,
maybe
with
a
white
face
panel,
so
they
can
put
their
their
name
on
it.
The
second
option
is
a
you
know:
a
backup
and
punt
maneuver
in
case
y'all.
Don't
like
that
one,
it's
just
like
their
neighbor,
so
they
figured.
H
H
C
E
C
E
H
It's
just
it's
hard
for
me
to
comment
on
the
historical
value
of
that
I
mean
I
just
that's
y'all's
zone.
I
just
know
that
the
customer
doesn't
necessarily
like
that
stain.
You
know
he
doesn't
like
that.
Facade
he's
been
trying
to
and
this
awning
would
kind
of
wipe
it
all
the
way
out,
which
would
be
better
than
what
we
had
presented
the
first
time,
which
still
left
elements
of
it,
showing
at
least
it's
right.
C
C
C
A
H
H
H
H
Width-Wise,
it
would
conform
to
the
brick.
What's
there
now
goes
beyond
the
brick,
I
mean
the
the
the
little
opening
to
the
edge
of
the
building
is
maybe
two
feet
in
the
awning.
That's
there
now
uses
that
up.
This
awning
would
conform
straight
to
the
to
the
brick
outline
wouldn't
be
no
need
to
overlay
it
out
there
into
that
other
area.
H
It's
a
little
shallower
than
what's
there
now
once
there
now,
six
out,
maybe
six
feet.
It
goes
out
of
good
ways,
I'm
only
proposing
four.
I
think
on
that,
because
it's
not
it's
not
coverage,
because
that's
recessed
right
there
anyway.
So
if
it's
raining
and
whatnot
they
they
can
go
under
there.
So
it's
mainly
just
curb
appeal,
just
creating.
C
C
H
They
got
white
is
there,
they
start
white
yeah,
so
it'd
be
black
and
white.
If
possible.
H
C
A
C
C
C
E
E
G
G
D
A
C
We
have
to
rephrase
it,
but
I'm
thinking
I
move
that
we
accept
the
awning.
That's
canvas
minus
the
triangular
part
with
the
advertising.
So
it's
left
plain
at
liberty
to
add
a
colorful
binding
around
the
edge
if
you'd
like
to-
and
we
suggest
lights
up
underneath
so
that
the
windows
will
the
leaded
glass
will
be
suppressed,
show.
E
A
A
Okay,
I
think
that
wraps
up
all
of
our
requests.
Let's
see
we
do
have
old
business.
We
have
a
request
for
exterior
changes.
502
east
church
street.
D
D
So
what
she
handed
y'all
is
the
changes
you
all
requested
regarding
the
sighting
start
with
number
one
going
from
the
and
batten
to
the
original.
What
the
lap
siding
was
with
the
same
reveal,
and
we
were.
We
were
agreeance
with
that,
and
so
we
will
change
that
and
that
will
match
that
style
with
the
original
house.
I
The
hardy
lap
siding
instead
and
then
the
second
thing
is
the
front
door.
So
I
know
last
time
we
said:
oh
we've
really
got
to
go
back
and
look
and
we
could
not
find
the
original
front
door,
which
was
a
shame,
but
we
do
have
a
proposal,
so
we
you
can
see
on
the
left,
that's
the
one
that
we
put
in
before
the
last
meeting.
Before
we
realized
okay,
we
need
to
go
to
the
historics
or
the
hpc
now,
so
the
one
on
the
right
is
more
of
a.
I
I
If
you
look
at
the
door
on
the
left,
the
one
that
is
currently
in
there,
the
bot
and
I've
been
in
touch
with
a
few
companies
and
guys
that
do
woodwork.
So
what
we
would
be
proposing
to
do
here,
if
you
look,
you
see
that
there's
five
rows
of
the
windows
on
that
front
door.
The
bottom
three,
the
company
or
guy,
that
we
hired
would
do
a
nice
flat
piece
of
wood.
That
would
make
it
kind
of
look
similar
to
the
one
on
the
right.
I
I
If
you
see
that
little
underneath
the
two
rows
that
little
dental
yeah
yeah
that
we're
proposing
to
do
that
and
to
the
door,
that's
in
there
now
and
then,
if
we
go
to
the
next
page,
so
this
again
before
you
can
see
the
siding
to
this
would
all
be
taken
off
and
and
just
the
the
hearty
lap
and
then
another
thing
that
we're
doing
is
the
windows
that
we
did
replace
before
we
realized
we
needed
to
come
to.
I
As
you
can
see
with
the
fourth
thing,
we
tried
to
just
keep
this
very
clear,
and
I
I
know
we
discussed
this
last
time
and
everyone
seemed
to
be
good
with
what
it's
the
same
photo
we
had
submitted,
but
the
porch
pickets,
which
are
very
wobbly
and
honestly
just
dangerous,
would
be
replaced
with
what
you
see
on
the
right.
More
of
just
a
just
honestly,
exactly
what
you
see
on
the
right.
I
Yeah
so
the
window
there's
three
windows:
three
windows
in
the
back:
yes,
didn't
you
dress
the
door,
a
door
in
the
back
yeah,
I
didn't
even
sorry.
I
was
trying
to
keep
my
thoughts
straight
here
with
that
making
sure
I
added
everything
so
the
door
in
the
back.
We
could
do
a
grid
in
as
well.
I
We
knew
we
had
a
few
sections,
so
we
wanted
to
just
keep
it
clear
and
organized
and
very
nicely
done.
G
I
have
a
question
for
the
back
porch
or
the
rear
door.
What
are
the
steps.
I
G
G
D
Was
just
I
mean
it
was
just
cinder.
F
D
It
was,
it
was
kind
of
it
was
pretty
bad,
so
we
also
were
questioning
too
what
is
the
or
the
policy
or
ordinance
on
like
decks
coming
off
of
a
back
porch.
I
Like
no
of
the
so
originally
it
had
the
cinder
block,
brick
ones
in
there
that
were
very
dangerous,
but
yeah,
as
he
said,
we
we
started
talking
and
we
didn't
know
the
policy,
and
I
think
I
had
even
asked
miss
faye.
Do
you
know
the
policy
on
if
we
wanted
to
do
like
a
deck
off
the
back
like
a
deck
is
that
is
that
something
that
the
historic?
If
we
wanted
to
come
back
to
do.
I
G
Yeah,
if
you
could,
let
us
know
the
size
of
the
proposed
kind
of
deck
that
you'd
want
to
do
and
if
what
you
were
going
to,
if
you
want
to
do
wood
material.
G
Would
it
expand
beyond
the
footprint
of
the
house
left
to
right
or
what
it
would
be?
No.
C
D
C
C
C
I
I
don't
know
I
mean
honestly
with
what
we
had
done
on
the
inside,
because,
like
the
same
with
the
siding
in
the
back,
we
had
done
that
before
we
came
to
you
guys,
so
I
I'm
not
quite
sure,
but
I
mean
we
looked.
We
went
under
the
crawl
space
and
looked
we
looked
inside,
we're
like
where?
Could
they
and
I
I
don't
know
it
is
a
shame
because
I
mean
yeah.
C
D
C
I
C
I
G
Yeah
so
with
standard
permits
you
you
got
six
months
to.
I
E
C
G
Right
so
I
had
a
email
conversation
with
daniel
south
at
the
row
and
asked
him
what
his
plans
were
for
continuing,
basically
where
they
opened
up
the
windows
along
spring
street,
and
he
said
basically
that
they
are
finished
with
that
that
they
have
no
plans
to
fill
in
the
missing
basically
fill
in
the
distressed.
G
That
is
still
under
construction,
and
they
still
have
plans
to
change
that
front
entrance.
So
that
is
not
a
finished.
Look
on
the
front.
E
E
F
G
E
C
G
A
A
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
that.
You
know
you
really
would
have
to
spray.
There's
things
you
could
spray
on
it
to
you
know
to
to
keep
that
from
happening,
but
it's
not
cheap.
You
know
and
I'm
sure
they
haven't
done,
that
the
water
damage
to
wear
just
seeping
in
where
they've
torn
it
away
there.
You
know
that's
over
time.
That's
gonna.
C
F
You
want
to
put
my
two
cents
out
there.
I
mean
if
this
will,
if
this
is
what
was
presented
to
to
this
committee,
and
there
wasn't
a
specific
motion
that
said,
I
think,
when
you
see
specific
design
like
this
one
shows
I'm
not
even
sure
what
there's
light
sconces
on
the
outside.
So
and
there's
looks
like
I
don't
know,
southwestern
art
between
the
windows.
I
don't
know
what
this
I'm
not
sure
what
these
are
shutters
or
what
between
the
windows.
This
is.
F
C
E
C
F
E
F
E
F
E
G
I
can
research
how
long
their
first
coa
is
valid
for
because
their
first
coa,
I
believe,
was
issued
in
2019,
maybe
2018,
and
if
it
is
no,
they
haven't
completed
the
work,
and
if
it's
no
longer
valid,
we
could
potentially
send
them
a
letter,
reminding
them
that
they
must
come.
They
need
a
new
coa
to
finish
the
front.
F
Sure
and
that
that's
correct
I
and
I'm
not
trying
to
discourage
or
disagree
or
anything
with
what
this
committee's
done,
but
as
far
as
this
situation,
but
I
you
know
because
of
the
uniqueness
and
the
you
know
the
attention
to
the
awning
that
you
just
voted
on
tonight
on
another
business
in
another
location,
very
specific
detail,
you
know
and
emotion,
that's
that
we
as
staff
can
can
enforce
reasonably
that
this
committee's
voted
on,
and
so
this
there's
a
lot.
This
is
busy,
so
I
wasn't
working
for
the
city
when
this
was
approved.
F
So
I
don't
I
don't.
Even
I
don't
even
know
what
went
down.
I
just
know
that
I
see
the
same
thing
you
guys
see.
So
if
it
was
the
intent
of
this
committee
to
this
to
be
built
exactly
the
same,
I
mean
yeah.
There
are
differences.
This
has
four
light
sconces
between
the
light
the
windows
are
for
wisconsin's,
whatever
you
want
to
call
them,
I
call
them
light
sconces,
because
they're
kind
of
they're
highlighting
the
spaces
between
them-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
heck
these
things
are
in
the
middle.
F
These
shutters
see
this
photograph
here
doesn't
give
me
enough
to
say
I
there
could
be
broken
distressed
look
in
this
photograph.
I
can't
tell
I
think,
moving
forward,
though,
to
the
credit
of
this
committee
when
you're
looking
at
one
like
you
were
tonight,
if
you're
that
specific
with
someone
before
you,
then
there's
more
for
us
to
hold
them
against,
and
then
you
guys
can
re
rest
easy
at
night.
Knowing
that
your
motion
would
be
fulfilled
by
the
permitting
part
of
the
process
itself,
some
issue
with.
F
E
C
E
A
G
C
G
C
F
So
yeah-
and
I
can
speak
to
that
so
moving
forward.
You
see
me
here
sitting
in
the
place
that
normally
pat
would
be
sitting
tonight
and
so
moving
forward.
Pat
the
code
enforcement
office
has
been
has
been
broken
into
several
parts
now,
just
because
of
the
the
overwhelming
workload
that's
going
on
in
the
city
of
the
city
is
growing.
F
It
was
the
decision
of
city
council
at
their
may
meeting
to
take
the
code
enforcement
office
and
divide
the
duties
up,
so
I
will
be
taking
the
over
the
responsibilities
for
providing
representation
for
the
code
enforcement
office
to
the
hpc,
as
well
as
the
planning
and
zoning
commission,
and
I
will
be
presenting
those
items
also
to
plenty
of
commission
items
to
the
city.
Council
pat,
will
still
be
in
charge
of
building
permits,
plan,
reviews,
licensing
and,
and
the
like.
F
It's
just
there's
a
lot
and
laura
you
know
is
still
having
to
deal
with
both
of
us,
so
she's
got
plenty
on
her
plate,
but
the
city's
growing-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
decision
by
council
to
help
offset
the
load
of
workloads
on
in
individuals
who
have
a
lot
of
responsibilities.
And
it's
not
that
they're
not
capable
of
that
at
all.
That's
not
what
you're
seeing
is
that
we're
trying
to
sparse
out
the
work,
so
everyone
is
not
overwhelmed,
because
it's
busy,
I
mean
the
city's.
F
I
don't
know
if
it's
ever
been
this
busy
in
its
history
since
this
inception,
but
since
I've
been
here
in
the
18
months
that
I've
been
here,
it's
been
non-stop
and
that's
compared
to
all
the
jurisdictions
I've
worked
with
in
the
past.
It's
been
very
busy,
so
that's
good
for
the
city
as
far
as
health
and
what's
going
on,
and
you
guys
are
always
busy
so
there's
plenty
going
on
in
the
historic
districts,
so
I'll
try
to
do
my
best
to
represent
the
co-enforcement
office.
F
The
best
I
can,
when
it
comes
to
specific
construction
techniques
or
building
permit
questions
laura
can
be
here,
but
when
it
comes
to
some
of
the
things
that
pat
may
have
provided
you
all
some
insight
on
in
the
past,
I
may
have
to
rely
on
his
expertise,
though,
outside
of
the
meeting
and
and
bug
him
about
some
certain
things,
because
there
are
certain
things
about
construction.
I
don't
know,
and
I'm
not
going
to
sit
here
and
pretend
to
know
them
so.
C
Lara
I
want
to
thank
you
for
including
little
tips
for
us
today.
That
was
very
helpful.
We
might
have
looked
there,
but
we
might
not
have
the
other
thing.
As
I
mentioned,
I
really
think
they
need
to
add
a
paragraph
about
what
they
wanted.
I
had
no
idea
what
that
first,
one
was
even
about
yeah,
we'll.
C
C
C
Highland
avenue,
that's
in
destroy
district
yeah
parts
of
it
are
all
these
are
in
history.
There
are
a
lot.
C
G
G
So
that
house
has
been
issued
a
stop
work
order
by
our
by
the
building
inspector
in
the
code
department.
So
they
have
a
posted
order
not
to
do
any
work,
and
they
will
also
be
getting
a
letter
in
the
mail
to
become
before
they.
E
D
E
E
No,
when
you
say
the
henson
house,
it's
like,
oh
god,
we.
E
A
D
C
G
C
I
nominate
elizabeth
elizabeth
ii.