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A
Yes,
ma'am,
the
windows
is
the
other
thing
too.
It
looks
like
they're
four
over
one.
Now,
when
they
for
the
district
down
there,
we
had
just
they
were
supposed
to
be
six
over
six
right.
C
D
Yes,
the
painting
is
done.
I
probably
have
more
modern
pictures
if
you
like,
okay,.
B
D
The
original
windows
for
the
original
house
and
the
addition
had
been
replaced
at
some
point,
probably
in
the
70s,
with
the
storm
windows.
There
were
just
the
one
over
one
and
I
don't
know
who
sold
who
on
that
deal,
but
it
was
not
a
good
deal.
C
I
think
the
major
problem
is
the
fact
that
he
came
to
us
already
and
didn't
ask
about
the
windows
and
then
that
led
to
the
person
across
the
street,
putting
in
the
wrong
windows
because
he'd
put
in
the
wrong
wonders,
so
we
didn't
approve
the
one
across
the
street.
So
to
me
we
shouldn't
approve
the
one
that
he's
already
put
in
that's
my
contention.
E
I'm
not
one
of
your
historic
expertise,
but
it
really
depends
on
the
style
of
the
house.
What
window
is
appropriate
for
the
style
of
the
house?
So
if
you
could
speak
to
that,
that'd
be
great.
G
Well,
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
these
middle
district
houses.
You
know
they
they
change
windows
throughout
time
I
mean
people
just
made.
Do
so
you
don't
always
not
every
house
in
that
district
is
gonna,
be
six
over
six.
You
know
you
might
have
some
that
are
a
little
bit
different
and
without
having
any
photos.
This
is
what
makes
it
difficult
when
people
come
to
us.
You
know,
after
the
fact
or
when
things
are
done
later,
we
don't
have
any
photos
of
what
was
there?
Originally
it's
very
difficult
to
decide.
Well,
what
was
there?
Originally?
G
G
I
mean
your
guess
is
as
good
as
mine,
and
so
it
just
makes
it
difficult
when
these
things
are
done
after
the
fact-
and
we
know
that
I
think
if
it's
if
it
like
savannah,
has
a
standard
and
they
have
a
list
of
different
windows
that
are
appropriate,
it
doesn't
always
have
to
be
six
or
six,
but
sometimes
they
can
be.
You
know
you
can
have
different.
You
know
different
styles,
but
they
have
a
list
of
windows
that
are
appropriate
as
long
as
they
follow
a
historic
pattern.
G
F
D
Okay,
thank
you.
I
can't
dig
up
pictures
of
how
the
windows
that
were
in
the
house
looked
before.
We
started
renovation,
but
we're
just
storm
windows.
Yes,
but
obviously
yeah.
I
don't
have
what
it
looked
like
in
in
1920.
A
All
right
can
I
get
a
motion
on
approving
the
windows
in
the
and
the
hardy
plank,
siding
as
well,
because
that
does
fit
with
what
needs
to
be
there.
A
A
H
All
right
good
evening,
my
name
is
wes
peters
work
for
reliant
homes
and
subsidiary.
The
property
is
actually
an
81
investment
company
llc
just
a
subsidiary,
but
here
today
to
talk
to
you
guys
about
the
actual
demolition
of
the
existing
building
at
140
south
broad
street.
H
Okay,
basically,
as
I
said,
we're
going
to
discuss
the
demo
of
the
existing
building
and
then
discuss
my
new
building
concept.
As
you
can
see
right
here,
this
is
the
existing
site.
140
south
broad
street
currently
is
occupied
and
is
ran
as
a
braiding
shop.
There.
The
building
has
been
there
since
1970
was
built,
you
know,
doesn't
really
fit
in
with
the
downtown
historic
area.
H
It
doesn't
have
any
aesthetic
feel
to
blend
just
it's
functional,
but
you
know
our
vision
and
what
we
foresee
for
the
site
is
something
something
new,
but
also
something
that
would
give
a
historic
feel
and
also
lend
itself
to
a
more
residential
and
combination
of
residential
and
commercial
space
for
the
site.
There.
H
I
just
you
know,
laid
out
a
few
just
pictures
of
the
existing
area
and
a
few
other
angles
of
you
know
it's
just
just
not
pleasing
to
the
eye
at
all.
No
matter
which
angle
you
look
at
it,
you
know,
you've
got
the
corner
there
of
washington
and
broad
street.
The
building
just
looks
you
know
quite
dwarf
there
and
and
then
coming
up
from
the
rear
from
wayne
street
there.
You
know
you've
got
the
parking
lot,
that's
in
pretty
bad
disrepair
and
then
the
I
did
a
site
plan
there.
H
H
This
is
the
plat
just
just
to
look
at
the
site,
as
it's
currently
laid
out
per
a
surveyor.
You
see
the
parking
there.
You
see
the
site,
it's
a
.291
acres
goes
full
length
from
broad
street
back
to
wayne
street
running
along
washington
street
there.
H
H
The
one
on
the
right
would
be
a
two-story
concept,
with
the
same
3000
square,
foot,
commercial
space
on
the
bottom
floor
and
then
a
residential
up
top.
This
is
just
two
different
color
renderings.
You
know
we
haven't
decided
just
yet
as
far
as
the
brick
color
the
final
concepts,
but
in
general
this
is
the
look
that
we
would
that
you
know
we
are
very
you
know.
Pleased
with
him
would
would
like
to
see
on
that
corner.
I
H
Yeah,
it's
right.
There
I
mean
from
the
pictures
itself.
It
doesn't
look,
there's
not
that
big
of
a
difference
but
but
yeah
there
is
the
two
story
in
the
three
store.
You
see
the
three
different
well
the
bottom
floor.
Then
you
see
the
two
additional
floors
on
the
left
side.
Then
they're,
just
the
one
story
on
the
right
side.
H
So
here
we
go.
This
is
just
a
layout
of
how
just
in
general,
what
it
would
look
like
on
the
floor
plan.
Basically,
on
the
left,
you'll
see
the
commercial
space,
approximately
3
000
square
feet.
This
can
be
divided
into
two
spaces.
If
need
be,
it
would
just
kind
of.
We
would
leave
it
open
to
see
what
the
demand
is.
Maybe
go
with
one
one
space
or
if,
if
the
demand
was
there
for
two
and
it
made
sense,
we
could
divide
it
up.
H
The
on
the
right
side.
You'll
see
the
layout
current
layout
just
of
the
residential
space.
We've
got
a
one
two
bedroom
unit
and
then
we've
got
four
one
bedroom
units
with
the
two
one
bedroom
units
720
square
feet
and
then
a
two
one
bedroom
units
of
670
square
feet,
so
they
would
mirror
each
other.
The
second
and
third
floor
residential
would
mirror
each
other
identically.
H
And
then
this
would
be
the
new
proposed
parking
lot
layout
in
the
rear,
so
I
know
there
may
be
some
concern,
obviously
of
height
size
depth
of
that
nature.
So
I
did
want
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
as
you
can
see
the
building
in
between.
H
I
don't
I
don't
know
anyway,
the
one
okay,
so
my
existing
building
is
is
highlighted
in
pink
there
or
my
new
building
proposed
new
building
is
in
pink
the
one
directly
adjacent
to.
That
is
where
I
believe
it's
a
reliable
finance
and
a
boutique.
H
Yes,
okay,
so
this
one
right
here
so
basically
the
unit
there
is
approximately
48
feet
from
front
to
rear
the
one
next
to
it
up.
Here
is
71
feet
from
front
to
rear,
and
then
our
new
proposed
would
be
110
feet,
so
the
existing,
the
existing
one
as
it
is
currently
was
only.
I
believe,
I
think
it
was
30
feet,
I'm
not
a
second.
Let
me
see
real
quick.
H
Yeah,
it
was
sorry
I
thought
I
had
that
number
there,
but
I
was
like
30
30
feet,
so
it
would
come
back
considerably
more
than
what
was
what
was
there
originally
so,
and
then
you'll
see
the
parking
lot
you
know.
Currently,
let
me
just
go
to
this
right
here.
You
can
see
the
existing
parking
lot.
It's
it's
a
bit
of
a
mess
and
I
think
we've
all
been
here
been
by
this
to
see
what
it
is.
H
Nothing's
been
done
to
this
site,
and
I
mean
no
telling
how
long
I've
talked
to
mr
briscoe
that
owns
the
adjacent
properties
and
he
is
on
board.
You
know
in
in
you
know
some
type
of
joint
efforts
there
to
repair
that
as
the
lot
as
you
see
it,
you
see
the
dotted
line
there.
That
is
the
property
line,
so
it
really
splits
that
parking
lot
in
two.
H
So
you
know
we're
all
about
being
more
communal
and
working
to
you
know,
join
the
city
and
just
you
know
having
it
as
a
proposed
parking
for
any
community.
You
know
business
businesses
walkability
to
be
able
to
just
park
there.
We
do
if
we
depending
on,
if
we
do
this
two
or
three
story
we
would
like
to,
we
would
probably
specify
or
allow
at
least
one
unit
per
residence
as
a
reserve
space.
You
know,
for
you
know,
for
those
residents.
I
think
that's
only
acceptable
for
someone.
H
You
know
either
buying
or
renting
that
space
from
us
they
they
do,
have
one
reserve
spot.
You
know
right
there
on
site
so,
but
I
think
I
think
they've
done
a
great
job
as
far
as
the
layout
of
this.
Yes,
it
does
reduce
the
amount
of
parking
that
was
there.
You
know
currently,
but
it's
just
a
hob.
You
know
it's
just
a
it's.
It's
a
just
like.
H
I
said
it's
a
bit
of
a
mess,
the
way
it's
laid
out
here-
and
this
is
not
the
final
final,
but
you
know
it
does
put
some
more
curbing
in
there
and
aesthetically
just
pleasing
overall.
As
far
as
a
good
concept
for
that
that
parking
area
back
there.
H
So
this
is
a
so
height
requirements
or
height
in
general.
Just
just
talking
about
that,
for
you
guys
the
in
comparison
comparison,
you
know
looking
at
the
three
story
in
general
when
we
were
looking
at
originally.
We
didn't
think
that
you
know
really
that
we
could
go
that
high
just
because
of
the
hype
visual,
but
in
looking
at
the
hotel
you
know
kind
of
adjacent
kind
of
caddy
corner
across
the
street.
You
know
we're
looking
at
that
and
and
phil
you
know
on
that
corner.
H
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
you
know.
You
know
corner
that,
can
I
think,
handle
it
with
it
being
on
that
corner
if
it
was
in
the
middle
of
town
or
somewhere
by
itself,
or
you
know
a
building
that,
amongst
the
others
on
both
sides,
it
might
look
a
little
out
of
place,
but
I
think,
being
on
that
corner
it.
It
would
lend
itself
to
be
able
to
have
that
height.
H
So
the
current
I'll
just
be
honest
with
you.
I
just
got
these
three
story
renderings
today,
so
the
existing
height
building
for
the
three-story
right
now
is
at
42
feet.
I'm
sorry
42
feet
42
feet
and
brad.
Are
we
at
35
feet
as
a
max
okay
35.?
So
I
did.
I
did
get
back
with
my
architect
and
he's
got
the
like.
The
ceiling
heights
within
these
buildings
are
the
highest
at.
H
H
Unfortunately,
I
just
got
these
today,
but
we
do
understand
that
that
35
foot
is
the
limit.
So
we'll
work
with
that
and
understand
that.
But
I
think
I
mean
is
the
hotel
35
feet?
Do
we
know.
E
I
think
it
may
actually
be
slightly
taller.
Okay,
existing
yeah
we're
actually
working
too
at
the
same
time
as
you'll,
be
designing
this
on
potentially
looking
at
a
story
limitation
rather
than
a
height
limitation
change,
so
that
may
that
may
occur
simultaneously.
Okay,
great.
H
Thank
you
so
with
that
said,
I
just
want
you
guys
to
understand
that
you
know
we
we
understand,
we
want
everything
to.
You
know
to
have
a
great
feel
in
downtown
monroe
and
be
aesthetically
pleasing,
so
just
know
that
we
are
considering,
you
know
those
options
and
definitely
taking
that
into
consideration.
H
In
summary,
you
know,
like
I
said
previously,
you
know
the
site
itself
is
is
due
for
makeover.
We
feel
that
this
project
will
be
mutually
beneficial.
It's
a
it's
a
great
project
for
ourselves,
but
for
the
city,
as
the
city
continues
to
you
know,
work
toward
promoting
promoting
in-town
living
city
living
city
work
and
just
bringing
a
combination
of
retail
and
residential
to
this
site.
We
just
feel
will
be
mutually
beneficial
for
all.
H
C
I
looked
at
that
property
dubai
and
I
decided
that
the
structure
was
not
redeemable
for
the
money
that
you
would
put
in
it
and,
in
my
mind
it
needed
something
grander
built
and
the
place
of
it.
I
think
when
that
was
built,
it
was
built
shadowly,
so
it
would
be
very
difficult
in
my
mind
to
restore
it
or
make
it
into
something
that
would
be
historically
acceptable.
F
I
F
H
Ma'am
yeah,
whether
the
two
or
three
story-
definitely
elevator
and
as
far
as
the
time
frame
on
this
I
haven't.
I
don't
think
I
touched
on
that,
but
once
this
is
approved
or
once
we,
you
know
finalize
everything
as
far
as
details
on
the
demo
and
the
actual
building
itself,
we're
basically
just
waiting
on
pricing
and
you
know
for
for
the
job
itself,
job
costs
and
then
we
plan
to
get
you
know
started
as
soon
as
possible.
So
I'm
saying
you
know
within
four
to
six
months.
Hopefully.
C
E
A
I
second
I
get
behind
that
too.
I.
F
I
think
so
too
I
mean
it
used
to
be
the
toy
theater.
That
would
have
been
more
historical
than
what
was
shoddily
built
back,
and
so
I
I
agree.
F
I
Harry
brown
grew
up
there
really
yeah,
but
we
have
no
pictures.
Oh
have
one
picture
from
his
front
porch,
but
it
was
a
red
brick.
A
A
All
right,
I
got
one
yes
in
favor.
Do
I
have
a
second
miss
jane
says?
Yes,
all
in
favor,
because
it
is
not
contributing
to
the
historic
downtown,
say:
aye
aye
aye.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
So
much
coa
for
a
side
yard
fence
at
506,
east
church
street.
J
K
We
also
grew
up
in
monroe,
our
entire
lives,
our
families
live
here
we
got
married
three
years
ago.
We
love
monroe,
we
hope
one
day
to
have
kids
here
I
want
to
start
by
saying
we
really
honestly
had
no
clue
that
we
had
that
there
was
a
fence
ordinance
in
place.
K
This
is
in
the
back
of
the
house,
so
it
doesn't
go
to
the
road
by
any
means
they're.
Actually,
I
want
to
start
by
saying
there
actually
used
to
be
a
natural
barrier
of
azaleas
bushes,
small
magnolia
trees
that
separated
the
two
houses
on
our
property
line
with
our
neighbor.
K
K
K
We
started
work
on
the
privacy
fence
about
a
month
ago,
when
we
realized
that
we
had
done
something
wrong
and
that
we
actually
were
supposed
to
get
approved
on
that
we
halted
putting
that
up,
we
stopped.
We
did
not
go
back
out
there,
because
that
was
never
our
intention
to
go
and
work
on
that
without
getting
that
approved
inside
of
the
packet.
K
Actually,
if
you
go
to
the
back
page
the
couple
back
pages,
those
are
actually
other
eight
foot
fences
that
are
on
east
church
street,
the
street
that
our
home
is
on
so
all
of
those
one
actually
across
the
street
and
two
others
just
a
little
bit
down,
but
still
in
that
historic
district,
all
of
which
are
on
east
church
street.
Sorry
about
my
printer
ink
too,
it
was
just
black
and
white,
but
anyways.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
We
do
really
appreciate
what
you
guys
do
and
we
do
love
munro.
C
K
No
ma'am,
so
the
nope,
the
fence,
stops
right
at
the
front
of
the
house
and
it
really
we
I
just
want
to
go
and
put
that
out
there.
We
do
rent
this
house
out,
and
so
we
thought
it
would
be
a
great
idea
to
have
that
for
us,
but
also
for
the
neighbor,
just
a
great
privacy
fence,
like
I
said,
we
loved
the
natural
barrier
that
was
there,
it
was
probably
it
was
taller
than
this.
K
Yeah,
it's
not
even
going
to
have
the
picket
look
where
you
see
kind
of
the
six
foots
that
look
cheap.
It's
going
to
have
it's
going
to
look
like
a
nice
fence.
It's
really
going
to
be
an
addition,
and
it's
not
going
to
the
road
by
any
means
it
will
stop
at
the
just
really
in
the
backyard
and
get
the
side.
A
F
Get
shout
shot,
I
really
am,
but
you're
fine
come
on.
Well,
I
yeah
somebody
was
going
swimming,
so
I
just
okay,
but
anyway
there
is
a
much
shorter
fence
and
yeah.
F
K
So
that
fence
was
there
yes,
ma'am
when
we
bought
the
house,
but
yes,
this
is
going
to
be
an
eight-foot
fence.
That
starts
at
the
front
of
the
house
and
goes
to
the
back
and,
like
I
said,
there
are
multiple
reasons
that
we
decided
to
do
wanting
to
do
an
eight
foot.
Instead,
when
you
go
into
the
house
historic
homes,
you
know
you're
on
a
crawl
space,
so
you're
you
know
over
the
windows,
you're
already
elevated
another
two
or
three
feet,
so
really
it's
still
still
kind
of
that
privacy
measure
yeah.
J
And
the
the
lay
of
the
land
as
well,
you
can
see
it's
it's
not
up
and
down
it's
pretty
flat,
so
there
won't
be
jut
outs
or
anything
like
that.
K
Yeah
and
our
goal
was
to
do
this
really
to
benefit
both
sides.
I
L
My
name
is
zach
johnson.
This
is
my
wife,
sarah
johnson.
We
we're
the
owners
and
residents
at
512
east
church
street
right
next
door
to
the
to
the
airbnb
that
they
were
speaking
on.
L
Personally,
we
think
it's
pretty
disappointing
disheartening
to
see
the
interruption
of
historic
preservation,
especially
for
business
purposes.
Oh.
M
There
our
camper's
actually
parked
in
the
backyard.
It's
not
parked
out
front,
but
our
issue
with
it
is
that,
yes,
there
was
somewhat
of
a
natural
barrier
at
one
point,
but
that
needed
that
hadn't
been
maintained
in
many
years
that
needed
to
be
controlled.
It
will
continue
to
grow
back
up
again,
but
an
eight-foot
fence
doesn't
put
privacy
between
us
and
our
neighbor.
It
puts
eight
feet
of
privacy
between
us
and
different
people
every
few
days.
It
is
an
airbnb.
M
We
don't
have
a
set
standard,
everyday
neighbor.
It
changes
every
few
days
and
I
have
young
children.
I
have
a
six
and
seven
year
old.
I
have
no
idea.
What's
on
the
other
side
of
that
eight
foot
fence
and
for
us
that's
uncomfortable,
and
it
appears
the
fence
is
going
to
have
the
less.
I
guess
you
would
say
attractive
side
facing
us
and
at
least
if
it
is
going
to
have
to
be
an
eight-foot
fence
next
to
us.
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
for
that
side
to
face
their
property.
Not
us.
E
There's
not
one
typically,
the
finished
or
the
smooth
side
is
out,
but
that's
not
a
requirement
of
of
building
a
fence.
My
next
door,
neighbor,
which
not
in
the
city,
did
the
exact
same
thing.
So
I'm
looking
at
the
post
and
the.
C
L
Those
two
houses
have
been
next
to
each
other
for
123
years.
There's
never
been
a
barrier
I
mean
wes
is
dad
and
his
aunt
owned.
The
house
sarah's
family
has
owned
the
house.
L
Sarah
learned
to
swim
in
the
pool
my
daughter
learned
the
swimming
pool.
We
don't
want
a
fence,
we
want
a
neighbor,
you
know
and
the
fence
isn't
the
answer
and
to
your
point,
a
six-foot
fence
would
look
a
lot
better,
a
eight-foot
fence.
I
mean
I've.
Had
people
come
up
to
me
on
the
soccer
field,
say
hey,
why
are
you
building
a
jurassic
park
fence?
Next
to
you
I
mean
it
looks
a
little
bit
ridiculous.
E
Anything
over
seven
feet
has
to
be
engineered.
If
it's
not
typical
building
practices,
the
eight
foot,
dog-eared
fence
board
fence
would
be
perfectly
fine.
As
far
as
design
goes,
I
mean
structurally.
E
We
don't
have
regulations
on
airbnb
because
we
have
so
few
in
the
city.
If
it,
you
know,
proliferates
we'll
probably
address
that
at
some
time,
but
currently
I
think
the
only
issue
on
the
table
is
appropriateness
or
any
any
disruption
to
the
historic
district
that
this
might
might
or
might
not
cause.
E
A
K
I
did
just
want
to
say
that
we
have
been
very
kind
with
our
neighbors
about
this
and
that
we
really
wanted
to
do
this
because
we
do
realize
right
now
with
you
know
our
current
situation,
our
jobs,
that
the
goal
is
to
be
back
in
monroe,
but
I
did
just
want
to
say
we
wanted
to
do
this,
not
just
for
privacy
for
us,
but
also
for
them.
It
would
make
more
sense
to
have
a
fence
up.
If,
if
that's
something
that
possibly
frustrates
them,
it
would
make
right
now
it's
just
wide
open.
A
I
L
L
N
J
The
owner
of
the
house
is
us,
it's
just
an
llc
for
us,
so.
A
F
Could
you
compromise
and
do
a
seven
foot
fence?
I
mean
I
know
the
the
campers.
I
saw
them
too
and
they,
if
you've
got
a
airbnb
over
here.
They
are
they're,
not
pleasing
to
people
staying
over
there,
but
and
they
are
in
your
backyard,
you're
correct
and
that's
where
they
need
to
be
so
and
you've
got
a
big
backyard.
F
L
Yes,
ma'am
the
camper
stays
in
the
backyard
when
we
get
ready
to
go
camping,
we'll
pull
it
out,
maybe
three
or
four
days
before
we
leave
and
we'll
park
it
there,
three
or
four
days
when
we
get
home
to
unload
it
and
then
we'll
pull
it
in
the
back.
It
stays
in
the
backyard.
It
has
a
has
a
pad
that
stays
on
it
has
power
ran
to
it
back
there.
It
stays
in
the
backyard.
L
C
J
We're
pretty
far
I
mean
all
the
posts
are
in
and
then
the
you
call
them
rails.
The
two
by
fours
are
on
the
set
for
eight
foot.
K
Yeah,
we
just
haven't
put
the
actual,
but
we
already
have
set
the
post
for
the
eight
foot,
and
I
do
want
to
just
add
that
for
the
last
year
the
camper
has
been
parked
on
the
fence
line.
It
was
moved
forward,
but
it
was
moved
back
but
still
on
the
fence
line.
So
I
believe,
like
three
or
four.
A
J
As
far
as
the
you
know,
like
I
said,
the
cap
and
trim
looks
very
clean.
Look,
we
did
the
post
every
six
feet
to
be
even
sturdier,
because
you.
B
J
And
I
mean
it's
going
to
look
great.
It's.
K
K
Up
to
the
back,
yes
ma'am
in
the
backyard
yeah
I
mean
I'm
at
the
house.
You
know
two
to
four
times
a
week
I
clean
outside,
we
cut
the
grass,
we
maintain
the
pool,
we're
very
you
know
we
really
love
this
home.
We
love
monroe
right
now.
Our
job
has
taken
us
about
45
minutes,
but
you
know
we
we
love
this
place.
This
is
where
our
families
are,
so
for
the
time
being,
that's
what
we're
doing
but
yeah,
whether
we're
at
the
pool
or
whatever
the
overall
privacy
is
just
super
important
to
us.
K
Inside
the
house,
you
know
you
can
because
you,
as
ms
chain
said,
you
kind
of
do,
have
that
incline.
So
even
inside
the
house
as
well
and
then
you
know.
A
B
K
J
So
this
this
came
about
when
we
were
living
at
5064,
I
got
the
head
football
job
away
from
here.
We
got
the
opportunity
from
our
neighbor
before
it
was
put
on
the
market
to
buy
this,
and
so
as
we
did,
you
know
we.
We
thought
our
thought
about
our
goals
and
next
thing
next
time
that
we'll
be
in
monroe
and
hopefully
we'll
be
soon,
and
so
we
wanted
to
take
this
on
as
our
first
first.
You
know
home
in
monroe
to
kind
of
clean
up
and.
K
Yeah
so,
as
patrick
said,
we
owned
506
our
neighbor
before
putting
it
on
the
market.
Approached
us
and
said:
hey:
would
you
guys
be
interested
in
502
east
church
street?
So
we
had
the
opportunity
to
purchase
that
we
are
not
flipping
this
home.
We
actually
plan
to
own
it
for
20
30
plus
years.
K
K
As
we
proceeded
with
this
and
doing
this,
we
realized
that
the
siding
only
in
the
back
section
of
the
house
and
then
a
couple
windows
in
the
back
of
the
house
needed
to
be
replaced
due
to
them
rotting
out
and
again.
That
was
only
on
the
news
section
in
the
back
of
the
house,
which
was
put
in
about
the
70s
or
80s,
so
not
anything
on
the
front
of
the
house
or
the
historic
front
of
the
house.
K
And
then
the
windows
that
we
replaced
were
wood
windows.
We
replaced
them
with
wood
windows
and
then
also
the
current
front,
porch
railings,
which
you
can
see
in
the
packet
as
well,
and
I
added
some
photos
in
the
back
of
the
packet,
which
are
other
historic
homes
that
we
like
for
the
idea
of
the
back
of
this,
not
changing
anything
on
the
front,
but
then
also
the
front
porch
railings,
don't
look
very
historic,
so
those
were
added
on
later.
K
K
No
ma'am
so
those
when
we
bought
the
house,
those
windows
they
were
didn't
need
anything
they
weren't
rotting,
the
siding
all
so
the
front
of
the
house
from
the
road,
the
side
of
the
house.
Those
windows
did
not
need
any
changes
or
anything.
That's
the
historic
windows.
It
was
the
back
section
of
the
house
that
was
probably
added
on
in
the
70s
or
80s
was
not
historic.
Those
were
just
normal
windows
and
they
were
actually
rotting
in.
I
think
it
was
just
the
cheaper
kind
they
put
in
in
the
70s.
K
It
was
like
you
couldn't
even
close
it
I
mean
you
could
open
and
close
it,
but
like
it
wouldn't
close
enough
to
lock
or
anything
like
that.
So
that's
why
we
did
change
that.
That's
the
only
thing
we
did
on
the
front,
so
we
didn't
change
any
siding.
Any
windy
windows
any
railing,
anything
on
the
front
except
the
front
door
and
then
the
bat.
Then
all
of
the
rest
is
just
in
the
back
not
visible
from
the
road.
I
To
replace
the
railings,
yes,
I
don't
think
these
are
I
don't
you're,
you
have
a
craftsman
style
front
of
the
house
or
it's
the
the
post
lend
a
craftsman-style
air
to
it,
and
I'm
thinking
those
banisters
might
have
been
replaced,
but
the
front
door
was
very
historically
correct
for
this
house
and
the
door
yeah
it
could.
A
good
carpenter
could
could
fix
that
the
door
you
now
you've
got.
It
looks
like
a
three-quarter
french
door
and
that's
just
not
appropriate
for
okay,
but
you
had
a
beautiful
if.
I
K
I
K
So
the
back
was
edition
was
done
in
the
70s
or
80s.
We
just
replaced
rotten,
siding
and
rotten
windows
in
the
back.
I
J
K
Yeah,
that's
something
we're
open
to
doing
is
definitely
the
lap
siding
again.
Our
goal
is,
you
know,
to
preserve
this
home,
and
so.
F
K
I
do
think
as
I
yes,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I
do
think
as
well
with
right
when
we
got
notified
too
on
this,
we
stopped
everything
we
actually
had
a
guy
that
was
gonna
paint,
the
exterior
we
were
like
hey
hold
on.
We
want
to
go
to
the
historic
society
first,
because
this
is
our
first
time
doing
this,
so
we
told
him
don't
paint
the
whole
exterior
we're,
not
somebody
that
likes
crazy
colors.
K
We
were
just
going
to
do
kind
of
like
really
go
back
with
what
was
on
the
front
and
paint
repaint
everything,
so
we
were
like
okay.
Well,
it's
kind
of
I
get
what
you're
saying
right
now.
It
does
kind
of
stick
out
like
a
sore
thumb
with
the
it
being
kind
of
the
yellow,
hearty
look,
which
was
what
concerned
me
too
about.
I
was
telling
him
I
was
like
oh
gosh
they're
going
to
go
out
there.
C
I
C
C
Really
want
that
and-
and
we
really
would
like
to
work
with
you
on
this-
and
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
here
and
I
I
think
maybe
we
should
table
this
and
meet
with
you
and
let's
see
what
we
can
work
out.
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
an
economical
thing
for
you,
you
know
financial
thing
and
we
don't
want
to
break
the
budget
or
whatever,
but
we
do
want
you
to
you're
so
acceptable
to
wanting
it
to
be
right.
I
can
tell-
and
this
is
the
thing
about
the
board
and
batten.
F
K
Well,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
yeah.
This
was
our.
This
is
obviously
the
first
time
we've
done
this
and
we're
delighted.
I
Are
people
out
there
who
can
yeah
like
the
front
door,
and
some
of
us
might
suggest
somebody,
but
I
that
door
can
be.
I
know
400
church
street,
that
door
had
issues.
B
B
Yeah
we
can
like
we
have
to,
can
we
so
what's.
M
M
Sorry
it'll
be
seven
years
in
may,
since
I
purchased
my
home
there
and
I
I
love
living
on
church
street.
M
I
I
really
would
encourage
you
to
think
of
the
value
of
of
us
having
neighbors
on
church
street.
As
mr
johnson
pointed
out,
he
he
wants
a
neighbor
and-
and
I
do
too,
I
don't
believe
that
the
stuarts
are
being
forthright
about
their
intentions
for
the
property.
M
I
N
C
M
Yes,
I
just
urge
you
to
consider
you
know:
first,
it's
permission
for
offense
and
then
what
and
then
what
so
you
know
I
live
there
and
I
I
I
really
do
live
there
and
I
want
to
stay
there.
I've
enjoyed
raising
my
boys
there
and.
F
You
thank
you.
Thank
you,
patrick.
Is
there
a
rezoning,
a
zoning
issue
for
airbnbs
in
neighborhoods.
F
If
it's
being
run
as
a
business,
though
that
would
be,
I
mean,
sparrow
hill-
is
the
is
an
airbnb
and
it's
right
on
the
corner
of
church
street,
so
you've
got
kind
of
a
business
field
going
on
that
side
of
the
street.
You've
got
the
gray
girls
law
office
there,
and
then
it
starts.
You
know
kind
of
conventional
all
the
way
up
to
until
it
becomes
residential.
So
I
think
maybe
it
might
be
a
zoning
issue
to
consider
as
well.
E
I
E
Yeah,
I
mean
basically,
she
brought
it
to
my
attention
at
this
point,
we'll
handle
it
there
outside
of
the
hbc
consideration.
We
have
no.
E
It's
like
I
said
it's
on
the
radar,
we'll
be
happy
to
hear
from
you
a
council
meeting.
If
you
wanted
to
come
there
and
sign
up
for
public
comments
and
any
input
would
be
welcome
and
considered.
A
Jane
says:
table
all
in
favor
of
tablin,
502,
church
street
say
aye.
B
A
E
B
A
A
C
A
C
B
A
N
Well,
this
is
a
small
group,
but
can
you
all
hear
me
yes,.
N
Excellent
excellent,
well,
thank
you
for
having
me
here
this
evening.
It's
a
privilege
to
be
here.
My
name
is
eric
reisman
and
I
am
the
find
it
program
coordinator.
This
gentleman
to
my
right
is
kate.
Dobbins
he's
one
of
my
field
surveyors,
and
I'm
just
here
to
apprise
you
of
our
involvement
with
the
ongoing
survey
in
the
city
of
monroe
in
terms
of
what
we
found
and
we
also
have
some
recommendations
for
you.
N
Okay,
the
first
thing
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
our
objective
in
scope.
What
our
involvement
is
here,
what
we're
doing?
Well,
first
off
we
were
contacted
by
the
city
to
survey
two
existing
national
register,
historic
districts.
You
have,
I
believe,
nine
national
registered
historic
districts,
but
the
two
that
we
are
responsible
for
is
the
east
maribel
street
and
a
little
bit
to
the
south
north
broad
street,
historic
district,
so
all
together
in
its
entirety
about
70
buildings.
N
If
you
look
at
the
map,
it's
kind
of
color
coded
into
quadrants
and
the
intention
as
I
understand
it,
is
that
each
year
a
different
phase
will
be
done
in
part
with
clg
funding
and
right
now,
as
we
speak
for
federal
fiscal
year,
2021-22,
the
southeast
quadrant
is
being
surveyed
which
is
phase
one
and
that's
being
done
by
wla
studios,
which
is
a
crm
firm
based
out
of
athens.
N
Now,
what
are
we
doing
for
you
all
on
behalf
of
the
city?
Well
find
it
is
responsible
for
producing
the
following.
We
are
responsible
for
producing
two
sets
of
survey
forms
photographs.
Each
resource
will
have
three
photographs
taken
of
it
from
different
angles,
and
these
will
be
available
both
with
the
survey
forms
and
in
digital
format.
N
All
the
data
that
we
accrue
in
the
field
is
going
to
be
entered
into
nargis,
which
is
the
state
database,
the
state
historic
resource
database.
Now
we're
also
doing
a
spreadsheet
inventory
that
basically
puts
us
all
together.
So
that
way,
you
have
a
means
of
viewing
this
and
trying
to
make
sense
of
the
data,
which
is
very
useful
in
your
line
of
work
and
finally,
we're
also
responsible
for
survey
map.
N
Okay,
so,
like
I
said,
we've
been
around
since
2001,
we've
done
20
years
of
survey,
and
in
that
time
we
have
surveyed
63
counties
on
behalf
of
gtc,
and
we
have
documented
over
21
000
resources,
which
is
not
an
inconsiderable
sum.
The
state
database
that
I
just
mentioned
nargis
it
currently
has
about
285
000
resources.
N
So
we've
done
about
about
seven
percent,
now
gtc
our
obligations
for
gtc.
That
constitutes
the
crux
of
our
work,
but
because
we
are
a
branch
of
public
outreach
for
the
university
of
georgia,
specifically
the
college
of
environment
and
design
wherever
possible,
we
try
to
engage
with
communities
in
order
to
do
survey
work,
not
just
in
terms
of
furthering
our
mission,
but
also
in
terms
of
forging
partnerships
and
trying
to
promote
the
activities
of
the
historic
preservation
program.
N
What
are
some
examples
of
the
partnerships
we've
sought
out
in
recent
years?
Well,
we've
done
survey
work
for
other
state
agencies
right
now,
we're
doing
a
very
large
project
down
in
macon
for
gdot.
We
work
with
local
governments.
City
monroe
like
we're
doing
right
now,
the
city
of
hartwell
a
couple
years
ago,
we've
also
partnered
with
neighborhood
associations
and
historical
societies,
to
do
surveys,
and
this
is
an
example
of
our
roster
of
recent
work.
N
As
you
can
see,
we
are
plenty
busy
with
work
for
gtc
we're
currently
engaged
in
a
multi-year
survey
of
athens-clarke
county
because
we're
talking
about
maybe
10
000
resources.
N
It's
been
our
biggest
project
to
date,
but
we're
also
undertaking
a
windshield
survey
in
the
city
of
macon
and
that's
a
project
of
equal
magnitude
to
the
acc
survey.
So
that
is
also
going
to
engage
us
for
multiple
years,
but
it's
my
preference
to
work
on
smaller
projects
such
as
these,
where
students
can
be
a
part
of
the
project
and
part
of
the
process
from
beginning
to
end,
which
hasn't
been
the
case
for
some
of
our
larger
projects.
N
Okay,
our
methodology:
how
do
we
go
about
approaching
this
project
and
I
think
what
I'm
speaking
here-
I'm
not
just
speaking
for
finder,
but
I'm
speaking
for
any
cultural
resource
management
firm
that
you
would
possibly
engage
to
carry
out
this
work,
so
this
is
a
facility
of
what
any
crm
firm
would
do.
Well.
The
first
thing
we
do
before
we
even
set
one
foot
in
the
field
is
we
try
to
collect
as
much
historical
data
as
possible?
N
N
That's
correct,
but
I
will
speak
to
that
in
terms
of
recommendations
at
the
end
of
my
presentation,
but
anyway
we
try
our
best
to
try
to
collect
as
much
historic
data
to
try
to
figure
out
the
background
for
the
historic
resources
that
we're
responsible
for
surveying
beforehand.
What
are
some
examples
of
historic
data
that
architectural
historians
rely
on
on
a
regular
basis?
Well,
we
look
at
sanborn
fire
insurance
maps.
N
N
We
also
have
access
to
a
whole
bunch
of
digital
imagery.
Now,
in
the
last
10
years
that
we
haven't
been
privy
to
in
the
past,
because
everything
is
digitized
online
uga's
digital
map
library
has
a
whole
bunch
of
high
quality,
historic
aerial,
imagery
that
you
can
consult
in
order
to
try
to
again
determine
what
was
built
and
when
it
was
built
and
how
it
was
changed.
N
So
we
looked
at
that
and
finally,
we
also
looked
at
some
background
information.
All
nine
of
your
national
registered
districts
were
nominated
and
placed
on
the
register
in
late
1983,
so
we
pulled
those
from
the
park
service
and
we
looked
at
what
was
there?
What
was
contributing
to
get
an
idea
of
what
was
there
in
1983
as
opposed
to
what
we're
finding
now
in
2022?
N
And
finally,
we
also
looked
at
tax,
assessor
data
tax,
assessor
data
in
terms
of
construction
date
and
in
terms
of
additions.
It's
an
imperfect
tool
when
it
comes
to
dealing
with
historic
resources.
However,
again
it's
another
layer
of
information,
so
sometimes
you
can
find
out
things
that
you
weren't
you
weren't
aware
of
before
by
using
tax,
assessor
data.
N
Okay,
let's
talk
about
our
field
survey
again
find
it
is
it's
primarily.
Its
primary
mission
is
to
train
uga
students
in
the
rigors
of
architectural
survey
work
now.
The
way
we
do
that
is.
We
offer
a
limited
number
of
summer
internships
and
graduate
assistantships
during
the
regular
academic
year
and
those
are
very
important.
However,
they
have
limited
reach
because
we
can
only
offer
those
opportunities
to
a
limited
number
of
students.
N
So
speaking
to
our
mission
of
public
outreach
and
community
engagement,
the
way
we
decided
to
structure
this
project
is
we
made
it
into
a
volunteer
day.
So
I
put
out
a
request
for
volunteers
within
the
historic
preservation
program
and
we
got
about
five
or
six
volunteers
and
they
were
all
paired
with
our
experienced
find
it
surveyors.
N
N
Like
I
said
we
had
teams
of
two
and
the
workflow
is
split,
roughly
50
50,
so
the
surveyors
teed
off
between
actually
filling
out
the
forms
in
real
time
and
taking
the
photography
and
to
give
you
an
idea
or
a
rather
loose
facility
of
what
our
forms
are
going
to
look
like,
because
the
deliverables
call
for
two
sets
of
printed
out
survey
forms.
This
is
our
stock
form
that
we
use
in
the
field?
What
we
are
going
to
be
doing
is
we
are
going
to
be
modifying
this
for
your
purposes.
N
We
basically
added
a
fourth
page
that
will
have
the
pictures
on
it.
In
addition
to
some
historic
comments,
because
we
tried
to
compile
as
much
background
information
as
possible,
especially
considering
your
national
registered
nominations
for
these
two
districts
date
to
1983
and
the
standards
for
documentation
that
the
park
service
requires
for
national
register,
nominations
has
changed
considerably
in
the
four
decades
going
back
to
photographs,
and
this
is
not
an
example
from
monroe,
but
each
resource.
N
Now.
Let
me
talk
specifically
about
the
resources
that
you
actually
have
in
these
two
districts,
because
there
are
some
common
themes,
because
most
of
the
development
in
both
of
these
districts
took
place
between
1900
and
1930,
and
there
are
some
prevailing
architectural
house
types
and
styles
that
were
very
common
during
this
era,
which
are
well
represented
in
these
two
districts.
N
Before
I
proceed,
let
me
just
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
the
difference
between
type
versus
style.
When
I
say
type,
I'm
referring
to.
Basically,
the
house
form
how
it's
laid
out
and
the
overall
shape
when
I'm
referring
to
style,
I'm
referring
to
the
stylistic
elements
that
are
added
on
top
of
this
form
that
give
it
a
unique,
unique
feeling
well
in
terms
of
one-story
house
types
and
I'll
delineate
between
one
and
two-story
house
types,
there
were
several
common
house
types.
N
You
have
a
lot
of
new
south
cottages,
which
are
a
house
type,
that's
very
common
in
this
region
in
the
country,
and
you
also
have
queen
anne
cottages,
which
they
look
similar
to
new
south
cottages,
but
they're,
usually
characterized
by
a
projection
on
the
front
elevation
a
bump
out
if
you
will
and
a
corresponding
bump
out,
if
not
more
bump
outs
in
the
side.
Elevations
now,
in
terms
of
two-story
house
types,
you
have
a
small
number
of
queen
anne
houses
and
the
queen,
anne
houses
are
very
similar
to
the
queen
anne
cottages.
N
The
main
difference
is
that
they're
sure
the
main
difference
is
that
they're
two-story
instead
of
one-story
houses,
you
also
have
a
select
number
of
georgian
houses,
which
is
a
very
simple,
straightforward
house
plan
and
basically,
what
it
is
is
you
have
a
center
hall.
The
original
floor
plan
had
two
rooms
on
each
side,
and
a
georgian
house
is
just
like
a
georgian
cottage
except
again,
it's
two
stories,
as
opposed
to
one.
N
Other
common
forms-
I
didn't
bring
it
up
in
the
presentation,
but
you
have
a
lot
of
bungalows
again.
Bungalows
were
very
popular
during
this
particular
era
of
construction,
but
in
terms
of
house
styles,
you
have
a
lot
of
craftsman.
In
fact
that
is
the
most
common
house
style
that
you
have
in
both
of
the
districts.
N
Now,
when
we
think
of
craftsman,
we're
probably
thinking
of
something
that
looks
like
this
house
here
at
108
williams
street,
the
craftsman,
architectural
style
can
manifest
itself
in
many
different
ways.
You
can
see
it
applied
to
two-story
forms
or
different
for
one-story
forms.
As
you
see
here,
other
common
styles
that
are
prevalent
and
these
three
are
in
the
north.
N
Broad
district
is
you
have
neoclassical,
which
is
a
very
prominent
form
of
architecture
from
the
early
years
of
the
20th
century,
and
it's
characterized
by
full
height
porticos
and,
unlike
some
of
the
historic
intestines,
you
usually
have
like
a
side
wing
here
like,
for
example,
the
house
at
217,
north
jackson,
street.
N
Other
architectural
styles
that
are
represented
are
queen
anne
and
again
queen
anne's
style,
and
I
can't
emphasize
this
enough
we're
delineating
between
that
and
the
queen.
Anne
form,
the
queen,
anne
form,
is
just
the
shape,
but
you
can
have
a
queen
anne
house
that
might
not
be
a
queen
and
style,
but
these
three
here
that
I'm
illustrating
for
the
sake
of
argument
these
are
houses
that
are
not
only
queen,
anne
and
form
but
they're,
also
queen
and
in
style.
N
Okay,
some
findings
and
recommendations
that
we're
going
to
prepare
for
you.
When
we
finish
our
work.
Speaking
of
work,
we
have
entered
all
this
data
into
nargis.
We
are
currently
in
the
process
of
entering
the
data
into
the
survey
forms.
When
we
did
the
survey
forms
out
in
the
field.
It
was
all
done
via
handwriting.
What
we
basically
did
was
we
created
a
typable
pdf
and
we're
going
to
fill
those
out
and
we're
going
to
print
those
out
for
your
records.
N
But
speaking
of
our
findings
and
recommendations-
and
these
are
just
some
general
findings
and
recommendations-
we
will
elaborate
on
them
when
the
work
is
done,
but
both
of
these
districts
still
retain
a
high
degree
of
architectural
integrity,
it's
almost
inevitable,
even
with
the
presence
of
a
local,
historic
district
that
just
with
the
passage
of
time,
integrity
might
diminish
over
time,
and
this
is
what
happened
with
both
of
the
districts.
N
However,
both
districts
retain
enough
contributing
resources
that
they
would
still
be
eligible
as
national
register,
historic
districts.
Speaking
to
that
directly,
let's
talk
about
the
east
marybel
street
historic
district,
which
is
the
smaller
of
the
two.
When
that
district
was
listed
on
the
national
register
in
1983,
it
had
14
resources,
12
contributing
and
2
non-contributing.
N
Now
it's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
marginal
case.
You
have
seven
contributing
and
you
have
six
non-contributing
if
you're
asking
why
this
does
not
tally
up.
It
is
because
the
brief
of
our
contract-
and
this
is
in
part,
a
reflection
of
what
the
georgia
historic
preservation
division
wants
is
when
they
do
survey
of
potential
districts.
N
N
So,
by
a
small
margin
you
have
more
contributing
than
non-contributing
resources
and
for
the
purposes
of
the
national
park
service,
what
they
require
for
a
national
register.
Historic
district
is
that
you
just
have
a
majority
of
contributing
resources.
It
can
be
as
simple
as
a
majority
plus
one
which
indeed
it
is.
This
case
is
the
case
for
this
district,
but
that
is
the
requirements
now
with
north
broad,
which
is
a
much
larger
district.
N
The
issue
is
a
little
bit
more
complicated
because
when
that
district
was
listed
in
1983
it
had
60
resources.
It
now
has
68
resources,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
newer
construction
in
the
form
of
apartment
complexes.
In
the
intervening
40
years,
however,
you
still
have
a
high
percentage
of
resources
that
contribute.
N
You
have
49
contributing
resources,
which
means
you
have
19
non-contributing,
so
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
still
70
75
percent,
so
that
district
has
fared
well,
so
some
recommendations
that
we're
making
or
imploring
you
to
consider
when
the
survey
is
done
because
keep
in
mind
that
our
efforts
are
part
of
a
larger
multi-year
effort
to
try
to
survey
all
the
resources
that
are
in
the
city.
N
What
I
would
recommend
to
you
all
after
the
survey
is
complete
whenever
that
may
be,
perhaps
consider
updating
some
of
your
nominations
to
add
more
historic
context.
So
you
have
that
for
the
record.
Some
examples
of
that
will
be.
You
can
use
our
data
from
the
survey
and
use
that
to
create
comprehensive
architectural
descriptions.
N
Your
national
register,
historic
district
nominations,
do
not
have
an
itemized
list
of
the
resources
in
your
districts
that
was
fairly
commonplace
in
the
early
1980s
but,
like
I
said
before,
the
standards
for
historic
districts
has
changed
markedly
in
terms
of
what
not
just
state
historic
preservation
offices
required,
but
one
in
turn
what
the
national
park
service
demands
as
well
other
other
comments
and
takeaways
additional
information
that
you
can
possibly
add
to
a
national
registered
nomination.
N
We
have
some
revised
dates
of
construction
that
again
are
based
on
modern
er.
There
are
based
on
additional
background
information
that
whoever
is
responsible
for
preparing
the
nomination
back
in
1983
information.
They
were
probably
not
privy
to,
and
finally
my
last
thought
here
and
this
you
can
probably
only
take
into
consideration
again
once
the
entirety
of
the
survey
is
complete.
But
if
you
do
elect
to
update
your
national
register
nominations
for
some
of
them.
You
might
want
to
consider
updating
the
period
of
significance.
N
N
Now,
in
certain
districts,
it
might
make
sense
to
keep
the
existing
period
of
significance,
for
example
the
east
maribel
street
district,
because
the
justification
for
that
period
of
significance
is
that
the
contributing
resources
in
that
district,
as
it
was
listed
in
1983,
represent
particular
architectural
forms
such
as
like
queen
anne
houses,
new
south
cottages,
gabe
and
elle
fronts,
and
what
they
were
saying
was
that
the
newer
homes,
the
craftsman-style
homes
or,
I
think,
there's
a
tudor
house
there
as
well,
because
those
forms
were
different.
They
did
not
contribute
to
the
character
of
the
district.
N
G
I
have
a
question,
certainly
would
the
would
adding
more
non-contributing
more
non-contributing
structures
if
we,
if
any
more,
were
added
to
the
maryville
street
district?
Would
that
jeopardize
the
district.
N
So
if
you
were
interested
in
going
this
route,
what
you
could
potentially
do
is
you
could
potentially
do
it
under
the
perspective
of
we
want
to
update
the
nomination.
So
that
way,
the
state
of
georgia
and
the
national
park
service
has
more
contemporary
information,
and
even
though
the
nomination
itself
would
probably
reflect
the
flack
that
there
was
a
lower
percentage
of
contributing
resources,
you
would
still
have
what
you
need
in
order
for
it
to
be
a
viable
district.
C
N
Yeah,
I
have
the
nomination
actually
here
with
me.
I've
read
through
all
nine
of
your
nominations
and
I
don't
know
the
reason
myself
and
again.
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things
that
you
just
have
to
chalk
up
to
the
fact
that
the
standards
for
documentation,
not
just
the
standards
of
doc
or
documentation,
but
in
terms
of
how
nominations
were
reviewed
the
process
40
years
ago.
N
They
were
just
subject
to
a
much
lower
degree
of
scrutiny
than
they
are
now.
But,
speaking
to
your
point
that
it
might
be
something
you
want
to
consider,
as
well
as
a
commission
and
as
a
community
once
the
entirety
of
this
survey
is
complete
and
when
I
say
the
entirety
of
this
survey,
I'm
not
talking
about
the
two
districts
that
we
are
responsible
for
surveying,
but
rather
all
four
phases
of
your
cog
sponsored
survey.
N
You
might
want
to
consider
in
terms
of
updating
the
nominations,
but
also
having
a
boundary
increase,
because,
if
you're
looking
at
revising
the
period
of
significance-
and
you
revise
those
dates
to
more
contemporary
time-
that's
going
to
bring
in
a
whole
bunch
of
contiguous
resources
that
would
now
be
considered
eligible.
But
I
think
in
terms
of
exploring
that
option-
and
I
think
it
should
be
an
option-
you
should
consider
you're
going
to
have
to
do
that
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
In
other
words,
district
by
district
would.
N
Well,
let's
be
clear
everything
that
is
over
50
years
of
age
at
this
point
is
potentially
eligible
for
the
national
register
of
historic
places,
but
I
think,
in
terms
of
expanding
your
period
of
significance,
it
probably
wouldn't
abut
near
the
50-year
barrier.
I
think
what
you
guys
would
look
at
since
these
are
well-developed
areas
is
just
when
I
guess
the
construction
essentially
tapered
off.
So
in
other
words,
what
you
would
look
for
is
the
overriding
character
of
the
district
and
in
essence,
the
non-contributing
resources
would
be
the
ones
that
were
built
as
contemporary
infill.
I
In
another
group
we
had
a
city
council
member
present
to
ask
questions
about
the
historic
districts
and
the
one
she's
talking
about
walton
street
stops
and
the
circle
is
not
included
open
past.
My
house
is
not
included
yeah
and
he
said
that
to
get
that
included
in
the
historic
district,
each
resident
would
have
to
agree
to
it.
N
Well,
let
me
make
another,
I'm
sorry.
Did
I
interrupt
someone
the
overlap
from
the
microphone?
Let
me
make
another
distinction
here,
just
to
be
clear:
there
is
a
difference
between
a
national
register,
historic
district,
which
is
what
I'm
speaking
to
and
your
local
historic
district
and
that's
the
difference
is
that
all
the
governance
takes
place
at
the
local
level.
N
That
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
the
case
in
terms
of
what
you
guys
wish
to
do
in
terms
of
taking
the
information
we're
presenting.
You
have
a
number
of
options
available.
You
could
just
update
the
national
register,
nominations
and
keep
the
local
historic
districts
as
is,
or
you
could
go
the
other
route
which
would
be
take
this
information
and
use
it
to
expand
your
criteria
for
what
constitutes
your
local
historic
districts,
but
either
way,
whichever
decision
you
make
that's
at
your
discretion.
E
You
could
ask
a
question:
it's
not
germaine
to
the
historicity
of
anything,
but
would
it
be
possible
to
for
you
to
email
this
presentation
to
laura
and
we
can
maybe
disseminate
it
if
anybody
had
any
interest
in
looking
through
it
all
right.
Thank.
C
And
and
another
question,
these
are
two
districts,
but
are
you
in
the
future
plan
to
do
all
nine
correct.
N
Well,
we
are
just
contracted
to
do
two
when
we
were
initially
approached
by
the
city.
It
was
to
do
a
much
it's
to
do
a
different
area
and
a
different
set
of
districts
right
now,
with
our
workload,
because
again
we
are
not
a
crm
firm.
We
are
completely
dependent
upon
student,
labor
and
in
terms
of
their
limited
availability,
because
I
can
tell
you
one
thing:
graduate
students
are
extremely
busy.
N
It
would
probably
have
to
be
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
so
we
would
love
to
work
more
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
monroe,
but
it
would
have
to
be.
It
would
have
to
be
a
project
small
enough
in
scale
that
we
can
associate
it
and
assimilate
it
with
our
infrastructure.
B
But
I
guess,
on
behalf
of
find
it
and
the
find
it
surveyors,
since
the
rest
of
them
couldn't
be
here,
they
all
had
late
class
tonight.
Actually
we
just
like
to
say
thank
you
for
having
us.
It's
not
often,
as
eric
stated
find.
It
is
a
hands-on
experience
that
the
graduate
students
get
the
chance
to
go
out
into
the
field
and
do
a
survey
of
different
types
of
architectural
styles
and
types.
B
It
is
not
often
that
we
get
to
go
into
a
historic
district
at
such
a
lovely
town
and
do
surveys
in
these
particular
areas.
So
for
us
it
was
a
pleasure
and
it
was
also
a
wonderful
time
to
include
volunteers
and
other
graduate
students
who
had
an
interest.
So
on
behalf
of
myself
and
the
other
surveyors,
we
just
say
thank
you
for
having
us.
A
A
E
E
C
F
I
would
hate
to
to
know
that
airbnbs
were
coming
and
doing
that
because
it's
young
college
kids,
they
have
to
be
18
and
older,
but
they
make
a
mess
they're
loud,
they're,
noisy
they
leave
trash
everywhere,
and
it's
not
fair
to
these
established
residents
that
have
been
there
for
six
years
and
have
worked
on
their
homes
to
let
young
people
come
in
here
and
only
want
to
make
money.
E
Yeah,
absolutely
we'll
we'll
take
your
concerns
under
advisement
and
talk
to
city
administrator,
council
members
code
and
planning
committee
and
see
how
they
want
to
proceed.
I
mean
we
don't
have
a
great
proliferation.
One
thing
we
don't
want
is:
is
a
great
proliferation
of
airbnbs
without
some
way
to
regulate
them.
So
airbnb
your
concerns
are
noted
and
we'll
we'll
figure
out
what
we
can
do
to
address.
It
started.
I
F
I,
while
I
was
parked
there
viewing
my
taking
my
little
view
of
all
the
houses
that
I
was
supposed
to
look
at
before
I
came
tonight
up
that
fence.
I
was
sitting
right
beside
it
and
then
you
know
a
couple
walks
out
and
gets
in
the
pool
and
goes
swimming
and
all
that
if
I
had
small
children
next
door,
you
know
and
there
were
strangers
there
were
strangers,
not
neighbors.
I
wouldn't
like
it.
F
I
wouldn't
either.
I
just
I
mean
it's
almost
like
a
an
apartment,
almost
and
not
an
apartment,
a
motel
motel,
but
I
just
think
that
we
need
to.
A
E
Yeah
duly
noted,
we'll
take
it
up
with
planning,
planning
and
code
committee
and
and
see
how
they
want
to
proceed.