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B
B
Roll
call
let
the
record
indicate
that
all
members
are
present
minutes
from
the
previous
meeting
of
september.
The
21st
2021
has
everybody
had
a
chance
to
read
over
the
minutes?
Are
there
any
corrections,
deletions
or
additions?
B
B
C
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
As
you
described,
this
is
a
rezone
request.
That's
been
initiated
by
the
city,
we've
retained
a
contractor
for
the
master
plan
and
sadie
krasik,
I
believe,
is
here.
She's
economic
development,
director
she's
on
the
development
team.
For
this
this
project
and
she's
going
to
introduce
a
contractor
and
give
some
context.
D
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
presenting
on
behalf
of
the
city
to
introduce
this
rezone.
We
issued
a
request
for
proposals
many
months
ago
and
chose
this
firm.
Lord
act
sergeant
to
partner
with
us
to
help
come
up
with
a
master
plan
for
the
former
walton
plaza
now
known
as
blaine
station.
It's
where
our
pd
municipal
court,
those
uses
are
already
there,
but
there's
a
lot
more
property
and
buildings
that
we'd
like
to
see
become
a
new
commercial
center
for
that
side
of
town.
D
We
wanted
a
lot
of
thought
and
time
to
come
up
with
a
zoning
plan
that
we
would
love
to
see
developed
in
the
private
market
in
coming
years,
and
so
we're
really
pleased
with
what
they've
come
up
with
hope.
You
guys
enjoy
it
too.
I'm
going
to
introduce
representative
from
lord
x
sergeant
bob
beagle's
here
and
he'll
walk
you
through
the
presentation
of
the
master
plan.
Thank
you.
E
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
bob
beagle
I've
been
fortunate
enough
to
work
on
this
project.
Up
until
now,
I
am
a
architect
and
planner
with
a
firm
called
lordak
sergeant,
and
we
are
have
been
super
excited
about
this
plan
as
we've
gone
through
it,
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
it.
I
hope
some
of
you
all
have
had
a
chance
to
look
at
at
this
in
advance.
E
Julie
actually
grew
up
part
of
her
time
here
in
monroe,
so
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
really
interested
us
about.
This
project
is
had
some
personal
connections.
So
before
I
get
started,
I
do
want
to
emphasize.
We
had
a
really
good
team
on
this.
E
Our
consultant
team
was
good,
but
we
really
had
good
staff
participation.
Your
staff,
you
should
be
very
happy
with
the
work
they
did
so
logan,
chris
brad
and
say
dk
really
worked
pretty
hard
on
this
and
and
were
really
great
to
work
with
we
began
in
early
june.
The
first
thing
we
did
is:
do
a
site
walk
and
a
site
tour.
We
also
interviewed
some
surrounding
property
owners
and
stakeholders
to
get
a
sense
of
how
those
people
might
interact
with
with
this
project.
Again.
E
This
is
a
could
be
an
important
project
that
has
bigger
impact
beyond
just
the
site,
so
we
thought
that
was
important
and
then
we
sort
of
broke
it
into
pieces.
The
first
piece
was
really
creating
a
vision
which
I'm
going
to
go
through
with
you
and
then
figuring
out,
which
of
those
pieces.
Do
we
codify?
How
do
we
actually
turn
it
into
zoning
in
a
way?
That's
flexible?
E
The
report
has
five
parts
to
it,
so
we
have
a
context
and
overview.
We
have
the
development
concept,
we
have
some
development
controls
and
then
there's
a
whole
backend
piece
where
all
the
photographs
are
that
are
really
about
design
features,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
thought
was
important
was
to
leave
enough
flexibility.
E
It's
important
to
sort
of
create
enough
of
a
code
and
a
framework
that
you
know
what
you're
getting
when
a
development
comes
along,
but
we
didn't
want
to
hem
it
in
so
specifically
and
difficult
that
you
couldn't
actually
get
developers
to
do
it
in
a
realistic
way.
So
what
we've
got
is
a
mix
of
things
that
are
prescriptions
versus
things
that
are
just
guidelines:
the
site
context.
Many
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
site
on
the
east
side
of
downtown
sort
of
a
somewhat
forgotten
side
of
downtown.
E
This
is
our
site.
Here
again
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
the
surrounding
properties
and
in
particular,
we
looked
at
potential
opportunities
for
off-site
shared
parking,
as
you
know,
and
can
see.
There's
a
lot
of
surface
parking
here,
but
we're
really
proposing
some
infill
development,
so
we
are
taking
away
some
parking
and
adding
parking
demand.
So
we
thought
that
was
an
important
way
to
look
at
it.
E
This
is
really
a
former
shopping
center,
so
it's
really
not
a
walkable
kind
of
place
and
really
that's
the
most
important
part
of
our
vision
here
was
to
create
a
destination
someplace
that
was
walkable,
a
mix
of
uses
that
had
a
variety
of
things
in
it,
as
opposed
to
just
being
sort
of
a
big
surface
parking
lot
with
an
old
shopping
center
behind
it.
E
So
this
is
the
plan
we
came
up
with.
The
plan
is
on
the
on
the
right
side,
and
some
of
the
pieces
are
on
the
left
side
and
what
I
thought
I
would
really
do
is
kind
of
highlight
sort
of
five
big
moves
that
we
made
or
things
that
we're
thinking
of
just
for
a
little
bit
of
orientation.
Highway
78
is
across
the
top
here
spring
road
here,
blaine
here,
so
the
real
heart
of
this
place
is
sort
of
creating
a
small
retail
node
in
the
middle.
This
is
these
are
existing
buildings.
E
This
is
the
new
police
station
and
having
a
small
retail
node.
We
really
looked
at
places
like
for
anyone.
Who's
familiar
parsons
alley
in
duluth
was
an
inspiration
for
us,
similar
places
like
that
that
we're
trying
to
create
again
a
place
that
you
might
park
what
we
call
a
park
once
and
walk
district,
so
that
was
the
sort
of
centerpiece.
E
These
are
what
we're
showing
in
this
concept.
Plan
is
town
homes.
We
didn't
ins
in
the
code
specified
that
they
had
to
be
townhomes.
We
just
said
it
was
residential
for
the
most
part
we're
showing
townhomes,
because
we
thought
that's
was
the
way
it
laid
out
the
best,
but
there
could
be
some
different
ways
to
do
that.
The
shopping
center
is
really
deeper
than
you
need,
and
you
have
this
sort
of
odd
condition
where
you
have
hammond
street
across
the
back
side.
E
So
this
is
really
like
the
loading
dock
side,
but
it's
on
a
public
street
and
because
we
have
that
added
depth.
We
kind
of
came
up
with
this
notion
that
we
could
split
this
retail
to
a
storefront
retail
facing
out
and
storefront
retail
facing
back
towards
hammond.
So
that's
an
important
concept
to
really
creating
two
front
doors
to
that.
We
have
the
municipal
court
here.
E
So
it's
important
to
create
enough
parking
that
could
operate
during
court
hours
and
we
sort
of
got
this
notion
of
a
secured
police
and
related
parking
on
the
backside
and
access
to
sally
port
and
some
of
those
kind
of
things.
So
we
did
spend
some
time
with
the
police
department
to
understand
what
their
important
drivers
were.
E
E
E
Again,
I
won't
go
through
all
this
in
detail.
I
can
come
back
to
any
of
these.
These
are
some
of
the
specific
controls,
so
we
broke
this
into
sub-areas
four
sub-areas,
so
we
have
that
sort
of
commercial
mixed-use
zone
in
the.
I
guess
it's
purple
on
this
screen.
I
think
it's
pink
in
our
report,
but
purple
it
is
the
residential
area
to
the
yellow
on
the
south.
E
The
sort
of
teal
colored
is
that
commercial
reuse,
that's
the
area,
the
shopping
center
that
could
get
reused
over
time
and
then
the
sub
area,
four,
which
is
the
police
and
court
building,
so
different
kind
of
controls
in
terms
of
how
many
square
feet
of
of
building
area
and
what
type
could
go
in
each
of
those
sub
areas
again,
with
a
focus
on
more
commercial
and
mixed
use
in
the
pink
area
and
focus
and
more
residential
in
the
yellow
area,
we
have
quantities
of
units
that
could
be
built
up
to
a
certain
point
or
ranges.
E
We
have
building
heights
listed
maximum
facade
lengths,
individual
tenant
size.
We
thought
was
important
that
we
kind
of
create
a
cap
on
the
size
so
that
we
didn't
end
up
with
someone
coming
in
and
putting
in
a
big
box
or
something
that
was
overly
large
and
sort
of
defeated,
that
walkability
aspect.
E
The
bill
2
zone,
which
I
already
mentioned,
and
the
open
space
and
parking
we
also
have
a
list
of
allowable
uses
that
we,
I
think,
brad
in
particular,
spent
a
lot
of
time
going
through
your
zoning
code
and
we
kind
of
customized
which
permitted
uses
would
make
sense
in
which
sub-area
and
then.
Finally,
as
I
mentioned,
these
are
sort
of
the
design
features
we
have,
I
think,
10
different
sheets
of
these
again.
These
are
not
regulated
in
terms
of
the
code
or
the
rezoning.
These
are
more
design
guidelines.
E
E
E
E
As
I
mentioned
it's
a
about
a
60-page
report,
so
there's
a
lot
more
in
there
than
I've
presented
here
today,
but
I'm
happy
to
dig
back
through
anything
answer.
Any
questions,
logan
and
your
team
feel
free
to
jump
in
on
anything.
You
all
are
a
big
part
of
this.
So
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions.
E
A
B
C
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
again
just
like
the
previous
presentation.
This
is
a
city
in
instigated
request
and
it's
basically
to
alter
the
tech,
the
zoning
ordinance
with
the
text
amendment.
Sorry,
I'm
trying
to
find
my
cover
page
bear
with
me.
B
F
I
do
have
one:
was
there
a
specific
occurrence
that
prompted
the
text
change
text,
amendment
change
or
is
that
just
attempting
to
keep
current
with.
C
And
this
is
a
text
amendment
to
allow
the
use
sin
the
city
has
been
approached
to
have
that
use
in
that
zoning
classification.
We
thought
it
was
a
suitable
use
for
the
zoning
classification,
so
we're
amending
the
text
amendment
to
allow
it.
It's
also
going
to
be
in
conjunction
with
another
m1
use
in
that
area,
which
was
the
biodiesel
plant
that
we
spoke
about
last
month.
B
B
C
Yes,
sir,
you
pretty
much
covered
it
that
the
request
is
to
replace
the
monument
sign
with
a
new
one.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
requested
certificate
of
appropriateness
without
conditions.
Okay,
there's
a
rendering
behind
you.
If
you.
H
B
C
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
as
you
stated,
certificate
of
appropriateness
case
number,
five,
twenty
or
two.
Fifty
two
at
fifteen
thirty
south
broad
street
you've
got
the
staff
report
there
and
in
your
packet,
and
it
is,
it
contains
four
conditions.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
with
the
four
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report
and,
if
you
would
want
to
have
them,
read
I'd
be
happy
to
do
so.
A
I
Good
evening,
mr
chairman
commissioners,
my
name
is
clint
dixon
address
is
5230
bellwood
court
beaufort
georgia,
we're
here
before
you
tonight,
requesting
the
coa
for
a
convenience
store
at
1530
south
broad
street.
What
we're
proposing
is
a
8
100
square
foot
convenience
store
with
two
out
parcel
two
retail
attached
retail
spaces.
Each
of
them
would
be
approximately
2
000
square
feet,
we're
also
requesting
that
we
have
gas
pumps,
five
gas
pumps,
10
fueling
stations.
I
We
met
all
the
overlay
requirements
and
parking
and
we're
okay
with
the
four
conditions.
F
Can
the
future
use
section
is
currently
unoccupied
as
well.
B
B
Hearing
none,
we
will
close
the
public
hearings
and
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
or
deny.
H
B
C
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
again.
Yeah
this
application
257
at
511
north
broad
street
by
four
points:
construction
for
our
als
enterprises,
llc
to
construct
a
convenience
store
as
well
they're,
requesting
an
approval
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
in
order
to
allow
construction
of
a
commercial
building
with
the
convenience
store
and
retail
space
on
a
currently
vacant
and
undeveloped.
Land
staff
recommends
approval
of
certificate
of
appropriateness
request
with
the
two
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report
and
on
the
cover
page.
You
have
in
your
packet
and
if
you
have
any
questions
on
me,.
C
Two
conditions-
and
I
probably
need
to
clarify
one
of
them
because
they
have
some
signage
on
there
that
will
be
approved
in
this
cla,
but
where
it
says
for
any
sign
in
your
packet.
It's
now
just
for
a
monument
sign.
B
Yes,
sir,
so
give
me
give
us
your
name,
please,
sir.
F
F
F
F
And
there's
a
it's
there's
a
divi
there's
a
concrete
divider
there
for
traffic
flow
currently
on
that
section
of
the
street.
So
there's
only
one
way
in
and
one
way
out
is
that
correct.
F
J
What
we
did
was
added
a
condition
that
required
a
sidewalk
to
be
extended
from
the
front
of
the
store
to
connect
to
our
sidewalk,
I'm
kind
of
indicating,
with
the
laser
there
on
the
on
the
screen,
so
they've
shown
a
sidewalk
in
the
front
of
the
building,
and
what
we're
saying
is
that
we
want
the
sidewalk
extended
around
and
then
a
sidewalk
extended
straight
out
to
the
street
because,
based
on
their
architecture,
you
can
see
they've
shown
a
a
windowed
entry
in
frontage
here
on
this
side
of
the
building,
so
we're
asking
that
that
be
extended
straight
out
to
the
street.
C
F
B
We
approve
with
the
updated
conditions
motion
to
approve,
with
the
updated
to
original
and
the
other
updated
condition
on
the
sidewalk
right
here.
A
second
second,
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
All
opposed
motion
carries.
C
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
You
described
that
perfectly.
It's
rezoned
case
256
for
parkland
communities
incorporated
they're,
requesting
a
rezone
from
r1
to
r1a,
which
is
a
medium
lot.
Residential
district
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
rezone
request,
subject
to
the
seven
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report,
which
we
have
provided
to
the
applicant
and
it's
for
the
property
which,
as
you
describes
at
the
south
eastern
corner,
more
adequately
described
in
the
legal
description
included
in
their
application.
C
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
tyler
lasser
with
alliance
engineering
and
planning,
I'm
here
representing
parkland
communities
the
applicant
first,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
staff
for
recommending
approval
and
your
summary
on
the
project.
Just
to
build
on
to
that
summary,
this
site
again
will
be
141
lots.
It'll
be
split
up
into
two
separate
portions.
The
northwest
quadrant
will
include
34
range
style
homes
that
are
minimum
of
1800
square
feet
with
a
minimum,
10
000
square
foot
lot.
K
Each
dwelling
will
include
a
minimum
two-car
garage
and
they'll
each
be
constructed
with
a
mixture
of
features,
including
brick,
stack,
stone
and
fiber
cement
siding.
The
community
will
also
feature
a
luxury
amenity
area,
as
you
can
see,
towards
the
front
of
the
subdivision,
which
will
include
a
large
swimming
pool,
a
big
cabana
plenty
of
outdoor
furniture.
K
Things
again,
please,
oh
I'm
sorry,
a
swimming
pool,
a
cabana
furniture
and
then
a
playground
and
a
play
field
adjacent
to
the
parking
or
I'm
sorry
adjacent
to
the
amenity
area.
There
will
be
a
parking
lot
which
will
supply
plenty
of
parking
spaces
for
those
residents
that
don't
want
to
walk
to
the
pool
or
walk
to
get
their
mail
and
then
also
just
extra
spaces
for
any
sort
of
overflow.
K
K
This
includes
that
large
buildable
portion
in
the
southern-
I
guess
it's
on
our
right
and
at
this
look
we
would
be
able
to
build
in
that
area,
but
it
would
include
quite
a
bit
of
clearing
and
land
disturbance
and
in
a
stream
crossing,
but
it
would
be
buildable
again.
It's
doable,
but
we'd
like
to
limit
as
much
land
disturbance
as
possible.
K
This
would
create
a
year-round
screening
from
the
subdivision
to
the
right-of-way.
Also,
I've
been
told
that
there's
been
talks
with
the
ymca
to
provide
some
sort
of
nature
trails
through
that
open
space
if
allowed
as
proposed.
K
F
K
Them
are
so
for
an
r1a
10
000
square
feet
is
the
minimum
correct.
F
K
Would
be
larger
than
that
10
000
square
feet
for
sure,
then
the
portions
with
or
the
larger
portion
with
the
two-story
they're
gonna
be
a
minimum
of
ten
thousand
three
hundred
fifty
square
feet.
K
H
H
So
would
that
be
six
for
the
ranch
style
and
then
six
for
the
two-story
houses
or
six
total.
K
C
And
I
would
suggest
since
there's
two
sections
of
the
development
that
the
ranch
and
the
two-story
area
that
you
might
want
to
stipulate
additional
building
elevations
for
for
each
type,
rather
than
because
they're
going
to
be
they're,
not
going
to
be
interspersed
they're
going
to
be
separated.
B
C
Just
a
simple
edit
on
the
on
the
second
condition,
it
would
be
just
to
say
six
building
designs
for
each
neighborhood
presented
on
the
concept
plan,
so.
H
One
other
thing
you
mentioned
a
minute
ago
and
you
I
may
have
caught
this
wrong
or
you
may
have
not
meant
to
say
this.
You
said
somebody
the
homeowners
may
not
want
to
walk
to
the
mailboxes.
Do
you
intend
on
having
a
mailbox,
kiosk
or
will
they'll.
K
C
K
H
K
Not
that
I'm
aware
of
it's,
not
it's
not
set
in
stone
yet
but
being
discussed.
B
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
jim
campbell
and
I'm
here
with
a
group
of
others,
may
I
ask
them
to
stand
to
show
who
is
here
interested
in
this
matter?.
B
L
L
L
L
Yes,
jim
campbell
at
2580
double
springs
church
road,
sir
thank.
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
amy
mahan
and
I
am
a
resident
of
double
springs.
Church
road
have
been
for
over
20
years.
My
address
is
1735
double
springs,
church
road
and
I
am
two
of
I
believe,
four
or
five,
possibly
that
we'll
be
speaking,
I'm
in
opposition
of
this
and
one
of
the
points.
The
first
point
that
I
would
like
to
make
is
centered
around
more
quality
of
life
and
jeff
had
touched
a
little
bit
on
this
anywhere.
Our
double
springs.
M
Church
road
is
made
up
of
many
parcels
that
are
between
five
and
a
hundred
acres,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
really
like
about
double
springs
church
road,
as
mentioned
last
week
in
reference
to
this,
you
know
at
any
given
time
you
can
drive
down
double
springs,
church
road-
and
you
know
there
may
be
people-
you
know,
riding
a
horse
or,
of
course,
kids
out
riding
their
bikes.
A
tractor.
You
know
driving
down
the
road.
M
With
this
development
and
the
proposed
141
lots
in
conjunction
with
the
other
one
that
is
being
considered,
which
is
an
additional
340
lots,
that's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
houses,
a
lot
of
additional
cars.
M
There's
also,
you
know
the
other
property
that
sold
on
cedar
ridge
and
closer
to
78,
which
I've
realized
is
a
is
a
county,
a
property
within
the
county
and
not
the
city,
but
we're
yet
to
to
know
what
what
is
going
to
come?
Of
that.
We
hear
that
that's
going
to
be
another.
You
know
several
lots,
not
to
mention
the
the
shopping
center
that
we
have
that's
going
to
be
opening
up
in
a
couple
of
months.
M
We
really
don't
know
what
the
traffic
or
the
impact
of
that
shopping
center
is
going
to
be
with
the
additional
traffic
double
springs.
Church
road
is
kind
of
a
connector
between
you
know,
monroe
to
gwinnett
county,
whether
you're
going
towards
81
to
gwinnett
county
or
going
you
know
to
78,
to
get
to
loganville
and
to
rockdale
county
from
monroe.
So
there's
just
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
that
we
have
in
the
in
the
quality
of
life.
M
As
we
see
it
now
on
double
springs,
church
road
with
the
traffic
study
being
done,
you
know
what
crossed
my
mind
was
what
what
stipulations
I
mean.
What,
with
the
results
of
that
traffic
study,
that's
great,
you
can
do
a
traffic
study,
but
I
don't
think
you
know
in
time.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
relevant
until
the
new
shopping
center
opens
up
until
we
get
that
going
and
see
what
the
impact
of
that
is
and
then
also
you
know,
the
impact
of
this
other.
M
Of
course,
I
guess
that
means
that
there
would
be
less
homes
or
less
lots,
but
I
would
just
you
know
like
to
ask
you
all
to
please
you
know
think
through
this
and
keeping
in
mind
the
residents
on
double
springs.
Church
road-
and
you
know-
we've
lived
there.
We
really
would
like
to
continue
to
be
happy
and
you
know
do
what
we
do,
but
the
additional
traffic
is
going
to
make
a
huge
difference
for
us,
and
you
know.
M
I
realized
that
too
we're
in
the
we're
in
the
county
and
as
lori
had
mentioned
last
week,.
M
Has
the
city
working
with
the
county
or
in
communications
with
the
county,
because
this
is
a
lot
too,
I
mean.
Is
this
going
to
impose?
You
know
things
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
maintained
or
taken
care
of
on
a
county
level.
So
it's
it's
not
just
a
city
impacting
the
city,
it's
going
to
impact
those
in
the
county
as
well.
That
are
nearby.
M
So
I
would
you
know,
I'd
bring
all
of
that
to
your
attention
and
I
know
that
there's
a
couple
of
others
that
are
going
to
speak
to
some
other
points,
but
we
appreciate
your
time
and
consideration
and
opposition
of
r1
to
r1a.
Thank
you.
B
N
My
name
is
kalyn
vanderhorst
and
I'm
also
a
resident
of
double
springs,
church
road
and
have
been
for
the
past
nine
years.
I
live
at
2116
double
springs,
church
road,
I'm
bringing
a
different
perspective,
I'm
actually
a
local
real
estate
agent.
So
I
live
in
monroe
and
specialize
in
the
area
and
I'm
standing
here
today.
That
is
how
I
feed
my
family,
and
that
is
how
I
run
my
business
is
by
selling
and
buying
homes.
N
I'm
standing
here
in
opposition
of
this,
of
bringing
homes
that
could
potentially
feed
my
family
for
the
simple
sake
of
we've.
Come
to
this
conclusion
of
the
141
homes
that
are
requested
to
be
built,
but
also
last
week,
coming
as
well
to
the
river
point
subdivision,
which
will
have
300
and
something
homes
as
well.
N
I
just
ask:
I
know
growth
isn't
inevitable.
I
am
in
real
estate.
I
understand
that.
I
understand
that
you
buy
a
piece
of
land.
You
want
to
develop
it.
You
want
to
make
some
income
off
of
that.
However,
I
feel
as
though
we
are
moving
pretty
quickly,
especially
with
the
new
shopping
center,
the
other
community
as
well,
and
then
this
one
is
proposed
that
we
table
some
things
and
wait
until
we
do
have
a
traffic
study
and
he
says
he'll
do
what
they'll
do
what
it
takes
well
right
now
we
only
have
two
lane
roads.
N
Are
they
going
to
widen
the
roads?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
situation
where
we
have
to
have
four
lane
roads
in
order
to
accommodate
the
traffic?
I'm
sure
most
of
you
have
sat
on
138
highway,
11
78,
especially
at
certain
times
of
day
in
front
of
longhorns
in
front
of
walmart.
You
sit
there
for
a
very
long
time
and
even
on
broad
street
highway
11
the
trucks
coming
through
it
gets
very
congested.
N
So
I
just
ask
again,
coming
from
a
real
estate
perspective,
I'm
taking
money
off
of
my
table
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
preserve
the
city
of
monroe
and
preserve
what
we
have
and
not
become
the
next
loganville,
the
next
grayson
and
the
next
snellville.
We
don't
need
that.
That's
not
what
we
are.
Let's
pervert:
let's
preserve
our
county
and,
let's
preserve
city
of
monroe.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
G
Good
evening
my
name
is
denise
hawks
and
I
live
at
2301
double
springs.
Church
road.
I
have
a
son
that
lives
at
1730,
double
springs,
church
road
and
we
own
the
108.
Our
family
owns
the
100
acre
hyatt
farm
at
1960
double
springs
church
road.
I
tell
you
all
of
this
to
tell
you
we
are
very
vested
in
this
road.
G
We
love
it.
My
husband
and
I
moved
down
here
from
atlanta
20
years
ago
to
get
out
of
the
chaos
up
there
and
we
and
now
I
feel
like
we're
slowly
losing
what
we
moved
here
for
which
was
peace
and
tranquility,
this
beautiful
little
town
that
we
love,
and
so
we
really
really
object
to
the
to
this
congestion.
G
That's
going
to
be
built
at
the
end
of
our
road
first
of
all.
Well,
next,
it's
a
dangerous
road.
We
have
two
blind
curves
and
when
I
say
blind
curves
I
mean
you
cannot
see
around
them.
They're
right
angle,
curves
with
no
view
around
them,
and
I
would
not
be
standing
here
before
you
today,
except
that
I
missed
a
terrible
accident
by
one
minute.
G
That's
one
curve.
On
another
curve.
I
was
run
off
the
road
by
yellow
school
bus
because
those
school
buses
are
really
bigger
than
a
half
a
road.
I
mean
it.
It
seems
that
way,
but
but
where
he
ran
me
off
at
that
time
it
was.
It
was
kind
of
a
level
gravel
area
and
I
was
able
to
just
pull
off
and
pull
back
on.
So
it's
a
dangerous
road.
We
don't
need
any
more
traffic
on
our
road
and
this
many
houses
in.
G
In
addition
to
the
other
plan
that
was
presented
last
week,
it's
it's
gonna
for
every
house.
That's
planned!
That's
two
cars.
G
It's
every
house
times
two
cars,
that's
gonna
be
on
our
road
and
can
you
imagine
rush
hour,
7
a.m?
In
the
morning
when
the
school
buses
are
going
to
the
high
school,
and
parents
are
taking
kids
to
school
and
going
going
over
to
the
elementary
school
behind
the
high
school,
how
many
cars
is
that
going
to
be
and
all
these
additional
houses
people
coming
out
going
to
work
going
their
way
for
their
and
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
day?
G
Cedar
ridge
has
a
blind
curve
on
it
and
it's
a
very
narrow
road
that
goes
out
to
78,
and
then
our
road
is
very
narrow.
With
I've
already
explained
the
blind
curves
and
it
is
a
connector
road
kind
of
people
cut
through
there
all
the
time.
That's
one
of
our
problems
and
then
how
else
are
they
going
to
get
it?
They
could
go
all
the
way
up.
G
G
D
L
D
D
And
it's
a
very
narrow
area,
cedar
ridge
also
has
areas
like
that.
Where
you're
coming
around
the
corner,
you
can
barely
pass
a
car
that
is
coming
at
you
from
that
direct
the
other
direction.
Also.
D
Another
issue
that
I
understand
was
on
your
staff's
report
was
the
water
and
sewer
demand,
and
we
just
want
to
be
assured
what
what
measures
are
going
to
be
in
place
that
we're
going
to
have
adequate
protection
from
fires
as
far
as
water
pressure,
and
that
type
of
thing
our
questions
to
the
developer
is:
would
he
consider
fewer
homes
on
larger
lots
to
be
more
in
keeping
with
the
area
there?
Everything
around
this
is
r1
or
a1
like
our
road,
and
would
he
consider
that
we
would
not
be
opposed
to
that?
D
O
My
name
is
frank
massiello
I
live
on,
1710,
double
springs,
church,
road
and
I'll.
Be
quick
because
everybody
pretty
got
to
the
point,
but
the
thing
that
a
couple
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
bring
up
is
that
on
our
road
we
already
had
a
it
was
an
event
structure
that
was
going
to
be
built
like
a
wedding
hall
or
whatever
it
was
going
to
be
built
and
it
was,
it
was
beat.
We
fought
it
and
we
beat
it
now.
O
The
request
was
withdrawn,
but
from
my
conversations
with
all
the
county
commissioners,
they
were
against
it,
so
it
had
an
85
85
parking
spots
that
was
going
to
be
into
it
and
it
you
know,
caused
all
the
traffic
and
everything
with
the
drinking
and
the
alcohol
and
everything.
So
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that,
because
I
haven't
heard
it
brought
up.
The
other
thing
is
that
I'm
concerned
about.
I
have
grandchildren.
O
Where
are
these
kids
going
to
school?
I
mean:
how
are
we
going
to
stuff
them
into
all
these
schools
and
we're
going
to
put
start
throwing
portables
up
and
overcrowding
classrooms?
O
That's
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
that's
one
of
my
biggest
concerns.
The
other
thing
is
we
live.
I
live
right
along
the
morgan's
crossing
subdivision.
We
fought
that
also.
It
went
down
to
a
tiebreaker
where
kevin
little
broke
the
tie
and
allowed
it
to
go
through
with
a
lot
of
opposition,
but
the
things
I'd
like
to
talk
about
real
quick
about
that
is
being
an
owner
against
a
subdivision.
I
have
just
under
15
acres.
O
The
gregios
have
just
about
the
same
hawks,
have
about
50
acres
altogether,
down
that
we
border
that
we
have
a
creek.
One
of
my
main
concerns
was
my
water,
because
I
hunt
on
that
property
and
I
use
that
water
for
my
recreation
for
my
food
plots
and
satin
the
other.
It
creates
down
to
nothing.
There
were
studies
done
they
put
bottles
down
there
with
little
wheels
on
or
whatever,
but
when
I
called
the
the
county.
O
My
answer
is
that
this
thing
is
a
direct
watershed
to
the
alcove
river
and
everybody
that
I
would
think
90
of
us
are
on
wells.
O
My
concern
is:
is
our
groundwater
safe
because
we're
not
going
to
have
our
natural
flow
of
water
because
there's
going
to
be
without
the
subdivision
to
be
built,
there's
going
to
be
retention
ponds,
that's
going
to
collect
all
the
stuff
that
runs
off
into
the
from
the
subdivision
into
these
retention
ponds,
and
then
god
knows
what
happens
after
that?
I
don't
think
there's
one
of
you
that
can
tell
me
or
guarantee
me
that
my
groundwater
is
going
to
be
safe
in
the
future
and
I'm
not
going
to
be
going
on
those
city,
water.
O
The
other
thing
is
I'd
like
to
ask:
is
I
see
this
plot?
That's
up
there
there's
been
a
lot
of
time
and
money
spent
into
that,
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
this.
I
was
hoping
that
somebody
can
answer
it
for
me.
Is
this
property
bought
and
sold
to
the
developer
yet,
or
is
it
still
under
the
owner's.
C
The
only
record
on
the
application
is
raoul
family
partnership
and
still
still
family
realty,
llc,
so
apparently
they're
applying
on
behalf
of
them
with
their
permission,
but
the
owner
is
still
raoul.
Family.
O
Did
the
infrastructure
cost
to
get
these
things
going?
What
is
that
is
that
going
to
be
like
in
the
multi-million
dollars?
We
need
a
pump
station.
You
need
sewage,
you
need
new
water
lines.
The
hydrants
or
the
dehydrates
are
definitely
not
going
to
contain
this
or
help
it
they're
all
under
what
500
gallons
per
minute
on
that
road.
O
We're
supposed
to
be
1200,
so
you
already
know
you
got
to
do
fire
protection
more
and
then
the
sewage,
because
you're
not
going
into
into
septic
tanks
on
e
on
these
things,
because
they're
not
big
enough,
so
here's
the
deal.
O
Do
you
all
ever
think
about
maybe
buying
this
land
for,
like
the
city
and
the
county,
buying
it
to
keeping
it
like
it
is
and
making
it
a
natural
park
to
keep
this
crazy
overpopulation
coming
in
I
mean,
where
is
this?
I've
never
seen
any
anything
discussed
like
that
this,
because
everything
is
like
we
want
to
rezone.
We
want
to
do
this,
it's
all
to
get
like
a
multiple
dollar
figure
from
whoever
is
going
to
do
it.
Why
don't
we
just
think
about
the
people
in
the
communities
both
of
us?
O
I
mean
a
place
to
a
park
for
the
people
in
the
city
of
monroe.
I
mean
where
is
there
a
huge
park
anywhere
around
here
that
where
you
can
go
and
walk,
and
whatever
I
mean,
I
see
anything
about
a
river
plan-
that's
going
to
be
15
or
20
years
down
the
road,
but
we
may
I'm
going
to
be
gone
by
then
probably,
but
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
this
be-
and
I
brought
this
up
at
the
meetings
when
we
went
for
the
morgan
crossing
thing.
O
O
But
anyhow
I
hunted
on
my
property.
I've
had
people
come
over
and
tell
me
I'm
not
allowed
to
hunt
what
I'm
doing
is
unethical.
I
had
the
developer
rip
up.
My
my
tree
stands.
Take
my
signs
down
and
tell
me
that
my
property
line
is
not
where
it
was
and
I've
had
to
have
the
sheriff
come
in
and
get
this
thing
resolved.
B
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
todd
mitchell
I
live
at
2260
double
springs
church
right,
I
just
want
to
echo.
You
know
my
concerns
the
same
thing
that
everybody
else
had
I'll
give
you
a
little,
maybe
a
little
bit
different
perspective,
I'm
an
airline
pilot.
I
travel
around
the
country
and
there
are
certain
places
that
I
go
to
that
I
love
to
go
to
because
they
have
something
unique.
P
I
moved
to
monroe
in
2005
and
in
2005
monroe
was
not
unique
in
2021
monroe
is
unique
and
it's
desirable
and
I'm
opposed
to
having
more
homes
than
needs
to
be.
I
realize
there's
a
right
to
build,
so
I
would
excuse
me
oppose
changing
from
r1
to
r1a,
but
I
just
want
to
commend
the
city
for
doing
what
they've
done
over
the
last
15
years,
because
this
is
a
great
place
to
live.
P
When
I
see
something
like
this,
when
I
see
lack
of
infrastructure
planning
willy-nilly
growth,
like
you
know,
loganville
snowball,
I
don't
want
monroe
to
become
that
I
would
love
to
see
monroe
become
someplace
that
people
come
to
from
around
the
country
and
go
oh,
my
gosh.
That
is
a
great
little
town,
they've
done
a
great
job
planning.
P
P
So
I
just
want
to
want
you
guys
in
planning
development
to
realize
that
you're
in
a
unique
position,
you've
done
a
fabulous
job,
and
I
would
ask
you
to
not
succumb
to
developers
who
want
to
start
jamming
things
in
medium
density,
high
density,
downtown
in
the
core
of
the
city,
beautiful,
that's
where
it's
supposed
to
be
for
livable
walkable,
we're
going
to
walk
to
the
ymca
in
the
high
school
at
this
place.
This
needs
to
be
r1.
It
needs
it's
at.
P
B
B
Things
that
are
that
are
going
on,
and
I
would
think
that
maybe.
B
C
They
they
take
varying
amounts
of
time,
depending
on
the
scope
of
the
study.
So
I
really,
I
really
couldn't
give
you
an
estimate
on
that.
It
could
be
a
week.
It
could
be
90
days.
It
just
really
depends
on
the
scope
of
the
study
and
we
would
have
to
work
that
out
if
it
was
tabled
and
get
with
the
developer
and
discuss
exactly
what
the
scope
would
be
to
satisfy
what
you,
what
you're
desiring.
B
Close
the
public
hearings-
okay,
sorry
and
that's
okay-
and
at
this
point
now,
would
entertain
a
motion,
emotion
that
we
table.
I
would
think
until
until
december.
C
J
A
A
J
You
know
other
intersections
outside
the
scope
of
the
actual
subdivision
itself.
That
condition
is
followed
by
a
development
agreement
with
the
city
of
monroe
that
could
potentially
be
a
beneficiary
from
that
traffic
study
to
identify
those
improvements,
so
the
developer
could
potentially
contribute
to
that
this
body
tonight.
If
you
require
traffic
study,
I
don't
know
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
condition
them
to
do
certain
offside
improvements,
but
that
development
agreement
may
be
able
to
do
such
so.
The
way
we've
got
these
proposed
would
be.
The
order
of
the
development
itself.
J
J
C
F
I
ask
one
more
question:
before
we
enable
the
motion.
Can
somebody
clarify,
I
thought
the
information
was
here
in
the
packet,
but
the
the
allowable
density
between
r1
and
r1a?
Can
somebody
clarify
that
for
me
again,
please.
J
C
H
H
B
Is
that
we
table
until
december
until
december.
H
B
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
old
business
new
business
motion
to
adjourn.