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Description
Live Teleconference of the Regular Meeting of Mountain View City Council scheduled for Tuesday, October 11, 2022
A
At
Clerk
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution,
all
members
of
the
city
council
are
participating
in
this
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
observe
the
meeting.
Live
May
do
so
at
mountainview.lectostar.com
youtube.com
forward,
slash
Mountain,
View
gov
and
on
Comcast
channel
26.
A
A
B
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
B
There
are
four
items
on
the
post-session
agenda
for
this
evening.
One
item
will
be
heard
in
closed
session
at
5
pm,
and
the
three
remaining
items
will
be
heard
in
a
second
Pro
session
meeting
that
will
be
held
at
the
end
of
the
agenda
following
item
8
Council
staff
and
committee
reports.
I
will
announce
the
post
session
item
for
the
5
PM
Pro
session
meeting
now
and
will
announce
the
remaining
three
items
following
item.
B
Eight
item
2.1
on
the
5
PM
closed
session
agenda
is
a
public
employee
performance
evaluation
pursuant
to
California
government
code,
section
54957
for
city
council
appointees,
the
City
attorney
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
manager,
and
a
conference
with
labor
negotiate.
Labor
negotiators
pursuant
to
California
government
code,
section
549-57.6.
B
And
the
for
sorry
related
to
unrepresented
employees,
City
attorney,
City,
Clerk
and
city
manager,
and
the
agency
designated
representative
is
vice
mayor
Hicks.
Thank
you.
A
A
The
no
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak,
the
council
will
now
receive
the
closed
session
to
return
to
this
webinar
at
6,
30
PM
for
the
regular
session,
and
there
are
additional
closed
session
items
that
will
be
heard
following
the
the
conclusion
of
the
regular
session.
See
you
all
at
6,
30.
A
A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
regular
meeting
of
the
Mountain
View
City
Council
of
October
11
2022
I
will
now
read
the
usual
announcement
as
required.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
California
government
code,
section
54953e,
as
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
city.clerk
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution.
All
members
of
the
city
council
are
participating
in
this
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
observe
the
meeting.
A
Lives
May
do
so
at
mountainview.logistar.com
youtube.com
forward,
slash
Mountain,
View
gov
and
on
Comcast
channel
26..
As
noted
on
the
meeting
agenda,
members
of
the
public
May
provide
oral
public
comments
during
the
public
comment
period
by
visiting
mountainview.gov
forward,
slash
meeting
to
Enter,
The,
Zoom
webinar
or
by
phone
by
dialing
669-900-9128,
and
entering
webinar
ID
843-5126-7142.
A
A
About
that,
we
will
now
move
to
item
three
presentations.
Please
note
these
are
presentations.
Only
the
city
council
will
not
take
any
action.
Public
comment
will
occur
after
the
presentation
items.
The
first
item
is
3.1
National
Breast
Cancer
Awareness
Month
Proclamation.
We
are
happy
to
have
council
member
abigoga
accept
this
Proclamation
this
evening.
A
During
the
most
trying
times.
We
recommit
ourselves
to
the
essential
and
necessary
work
of
forging
a
future
free
from
cancer
in
all
its
forms.
Now,
therefore,
I
Lucas
Ramirez,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
along
with
my
colleagues
on
the
city
council,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
October
as
National
Breast
Cancer
Awareness
Month
in
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
and
ask
the
community
to
join
in
activities
that
will
increase
awareness
of
breast
cancer
prevention
council
member
ABI
Koga.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words.
D
Thank
you
so
much
mayor.
Thank
you
for
this
Proclamation
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
all
of
your
support.
D
D
D
You
know,
as
you
all
probably
know,
I
am
a
survivor.
It's
been
six
years
for
me
and,
frankly
that
much
further,
it
gets
sometimes
I,
even
forget
what
I
went
through
and
so
I.
That
just
tells
me
how
important
it
is
to
you
know,
have
these
reminders
and
raise
awareness
and
and
encourage
everyone
to
to
go
and
get
there.
D
D
So
I
want
to
thank
our
city
of
Mountain
View
and
in
particular,
as
I
know,
the
Mayors
I
think
most
of
us
are
wearing
this
t-shirt.
I
want
to
thank
our
Mountain
View
fire
department,
every
October.
They
wear
these
t-shirts
as
part
of
their
uniforms
and
they've
been
doing
this
for
many
many
years
and
unfortunately,
in
our
in
the
fire
industry,
there's
a
high
rate
of
cancer,
not
not
just
breast
cancer,
but
many
cancers.
D
Unfortunately,
there's
some
folks
right
now
who
are
battling
that
within
our
fire
department,
family
and
so
I
appreciate
our
fire
departments,
also
supporting
the
cause
and
wearing
these
t-shirts
and
as
a
reminder
to
everyone
to
please
be
sure
to
get
your
annual
checkups,
get
your
annual
screenings
and
to
be
able
to
stay
healthy
and
live
prosperously.
So
again,
thank
you
so
much
mayor
for
this
honor.
A
Scott,
oh
councilmember,
labor.
E
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
special
word
to
all
of
the
the
non-profits
that
work
on
defeating
cancer
and
give
a
special
recognition
to
the
the
family
members
and
to
those
who
have
struggled
with
cancer
and
and
not
been
able
to
defeat
it
in
their
own
case.
E
I
think
we
all
know
individuals
in
our
own
lives
who
are
either
still
struggling
and
haven't
gotten
to
that
five-year
Mark
or
who
unfortunately,
never
made
it
to
be
able
to
have
that
that
worry-free
future
and
many
of
those
individuals
spent
their
their
remaining
time
spreading
the
word
and
doing
their
utmost
to
see
that
others
would
have
a
really
significant
chance
and
so
I
want
to
give
them
a
a
special
recognition
and
I
think
that
we
all
think
of
those
in
Our
Lives
who
have
been
in
that
category.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
know
other
members
of
the
council
wishing
to
speak.
We
will
proceed
to
3.2
National
Community
planning,
month
Proclamation
and
if
someone
will
help
me
Elevate
RT,
we
are
happy
to
be
joined
this
evening
by
assistant
city
manager
and
Community
Development,
director
RT
srivastava.
To
accept
this
Proclamation
Proclamation
reads:
whereas
change
is
constant
and
affects
all
cities,
towns,
suburbs,
counties,
boroughs
townships,
rural
areas
and
other
places,
and
whereas
Community
planning
can
help
manage
this
change
in
a
way
that
provides
better
choices
for
how
people
live
and
work.
A
And
whereas
Community
planning
provides
an
opportunity
for
all
residents
to
be
meaningfully
involved
in
making
choices
that
determine
the
future
of
their
community
and
whereas
the
benefit
of
planning
requires
public
officials
and
citizens
who
understand,
support
and
demand
excellence
in
planning
and
plan
implementation.
And
whereas
the
month
of
October
is
designated
as
National
Community
planning
month
throughout
the
United
States
of
America
and
its
territories.
And
whereas
planners
work
to
improve
the
well-being
of
people
living
in
our
communities.
Taking
a
comprehensive
perspective
which
leads
to
safer
and
more
resilient,
Equitable
and
prosperous
communities.
A
A
Now,
therefore,
I
Lucas
Ramirez,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
along
with
my
colleagues
on
the
city
council,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
October
as
Community
planning
month
in
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
in
conjunction
with
the
celebration
of
national
Community
planning
month
RT.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words.
F
F
You
know,
creates
a
comprehensive
blueprint
at
the
highest
level
for
the
city
and
then
to
make
sure
that
projects
meet
those
visions
and
values
that
are
determined
and
I
know
our
planners
work
very
hard
every
day,
but
we
do
it
with
the
support
of
you
all
the
community
and
the
organization
and
I'd
like
to
accept
this
on
behalf
of
planning,
Community
Development,
but
also
all
the
men,
all
the
many
people
who
provide
input
into
the
development
review
process.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
recognition.
G
There
there
are
a
few
people,
I
value
more
than
a
good
city,
planner
they
and
and
I
include
Miss
trevostova
among
them.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
taking
a
downtown
tour
where
she
was
one
of
the
featured
speakers
and
got
to
let
know
a
little
more
exactly
how
she
thinks
about
making
a
great
downtown
and
I
have
to
say.
I
I
came
away
with
even
more
respect
than
I
had
before.
G
I
also
know
that
and
frankly,
I
think
that's
what
a
city
planning
is
all
about.
Great
public
places
we
get
to
do
our
own
interior,
decoration,
but
city
planners
are
are
the
people
who
give
us
great
outdoor
public
places
and.
G
Have
seen
supervisor
submittian,
who
I
think
went
to
the
same
planning
school
that
I
did
with
his
hand
up
a
moment
ago,
maybe
to
speak
on
the
previous
issue,
but
I
would
love
welcome
him
to
speak
on
this
one
as
well,
and
there
may
be
other
great
city
planners
in
in
the
you
know,
as
members
of
the
public
as
well,
but
I
don't
have
my
glasses
on
so
I
can't
speak
honor
them
personally.
I
Yeah
I
was
just
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
I
entered
my
political
career
as
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission,
as
many
of
you
did
too,
and
it
was
an
incredible
education
in
in
City.
I
Planning
I
know
that
there's
much
much
much
much
more
I
could
know,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
very
important
about
sitting
planning
is
recognizing
that
it's
one
of
the
city
services
that
we
provide,
that
that
makes
a
huge
impact
on
all
of
our
residents
and
it's
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
well
and
for
the
most
part
we
have
done
well
and
it
makes
our
community
just
much
much
better
for
all
of
us
to
live
there.
So
thank
you
so
much
to
the
planning
department
on
past
and
future.
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
other
members
of
the
council
wishing
to
speak
very
briefly.
I
the
mayor
has
the
opportunity
to
decide
which
proclamations
to
put
on
the
agenda
and
I
haven't
initiated
very
many
of
them,
but
what
I
found
out
about
this
particular
one
I
really
wanted
to
do
it,
because
we
have
taken
time
to
recognize
the
important
work.
Other
departments
have
done.
I'm,
not
sure
we've
done
this
Proclamation
before
and
it's
particularly
important
to
me
it's
because
your
job
is
particularly
hard.
A
You
know
development
is,
is
challenging
in
any
Community
lots
of
different
ideas
and
perspectives
about
growth
and
how
quickly
or
slowly
adopt
to
occur
different
ideas
about
design
and
it's
really
challenging
I
did
a
mess
right
balancing
all
of
those
perspectives.
You
know
not
only
you
know
within
the
community,
but
even
among
the
seven
of
us
and
I
think
it
is
important
to
take
some
time
to
appreciate
the
work
that
you
and
your
department
have
done
for
the
city
of
Mountain
View.
Very
well.
Thank
you
very
much
RT
for
joining
us
to
accept
the
proclamation.
A
Now
we
will
proceed
to
the
final
Proclamation
for
compassion
week.
Something
that
we
don't
often
have
in
the
world
these
days.
We
are
happy
to
be
joined
this
evening
by
Malia
Pierce
of
the
with
reach
potential
movement
executive
director
to
accept
this
Proclamation.
A
Now,
therefore,
I
Lucas
Ramirez,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
along
with
my
colleagues
on
the
city
council,
declare
the
week
of
October
15
through
October
23
2022
as
compassion
week.
2022
and
I
encourage
all
residents
to
unite
together
in
service
to
our
in
our
community
Through
participation
in
compassion
week
activities.
A
Additionally,
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
and
appreciate
the
sponsors
of
compassion
week,
the
Los
Altos
Mountain
View
Community
Foundation,
the
county
of
Santa
Clara,
sorry
County
of
Santa
Clara
supervisor,
Joe
simidian
and
Los
Altos,
United
Methodist
Church
for
their
efforts
to
bring
community
members
together
in
service
of
others
and
offer,
thanks
to
every
community-based
organization,
non
profit
agency
and
individual,
whose
efforts
strengthen
our
city
and
improve
the
lives
of
our
neighbors
Malia.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words.
H
Thank
you,
mayor
Ramirez,
and
the
Mountain
View
city
council,
for
the
honor
this
evening
bestowed
upon
reach
potential
I'm
honored
to
accept
the
city
of
mountain
View's,
compassion,
Proclamation,
and
we
stand.
You
know
we're
just
one
of
the
many
many
wonderful
organizations
that
are
hosting
projects
this
week
and
are
doing
amazing
work
in
our
community.
Miriam's
Webster
defines
compassion
as
sympathetic
consciousness
of
others
distressed
together
with
a
desire
to
alleviate
it
and
Mountain
View,
historically,
and
throughout
covid-19,
has
really
shown
that
they
are
a
compassionate
City.
H
They
have
really
elevated
the
needs
of
the
least
of
those
in
our
city
through
their
financial
support,
through
the
decisions
they're
making
with
programs
like
the
safe
lots
and
we're
really
really
honored
to
be
able
to
serve
the
city
of
mountain
views,
inhabitants
and
again
we
are
in
the
company
of
many
wonderful
wonderful
organizations
and
we're
really
honored
to
you
accept
this
award.
So
thank
you.
Each
of
you.
A
If
not,
thank
you
again
Malia
for
joining
us.
We
will
now
take
public
comment
for
the
presentation
item.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
the
presentation
items
listed
on
the
agenda?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
Zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone.
A
timer
will
be
displayed
on
the
screen
and
the
first
speaker
is
color
Indian
797.
J
Yes
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
your
precious
time,
I
wanted
I,
don't
know
if
it's
relevant
to
the
subject.
You
were
speaking
if
you
can
help
me
with
a
a
rental
issue
that
I
have
with
a
long
list.
I
was
waiting
for.
So
finally,
the
property
called
me,
but
it
looks
like
we
are
not
communicating.
J
Well,
I,
don't
know
if,
at
the
same
time,
they
have
a
deadline
tomorrow,
but
I
I
did
call,
and
today
they
were
mentioning
the
price
that
was
outrageously
higher
than
what
I
thought
to
be,
and
it
usually
was
for
the
low
income.
So
I
don't
know.
Is
there
any
way
that
could
generally
tomorrow,
go
and
say
a
few
words
and
keep
this
going.
A
So,
unfortunately,
the
city
council
isn't
able
to
respond,
but
please
reach
out
to
City
staff
and
we'll
make
sure
that
someone
is
able
to
provide
the
assistance
you're.
Looking
for
see
no
other
members
of
the
community
wishing
to
speak.
So
that
was
for
the
presentation
items
we'll
now
move
on
to
the
consent
calendar.
These
items
will
be
approved
by
one
motion
unless
any
member
of
the
council
wishes
to
remove
an
item
for
discussion
with
any
member
of
the
council
like
to
pull
an
item
being
none
what
any?
A
A
D
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
move
the
consent.
Calendar,
including
item
4.2,
adopt
a
resolution
of
the
city
council,
the
city
of
Mountain,
View,
authorizing
and
continuing
virtual
meetings
of
city
council
committees,
boards
and
commissions
pursuant
to
ab361
and
making
required
findings.
Thank
you.
K
A
K
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We'll
now
proceed
to
item
five
oral
Communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
Council
on
any
matter,
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
during
this
section.
State
law
prohibits
the
council
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
an
item
not
on
the
agenda?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
Zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone.
A
I
had
thought
that
this
was
where
a
supervisor
submitting
was
interested
in
speaking,
but
perhaps
he
had
to
depart
I'm,
not
seeing
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak.
So
we
will
proceed
right,
Council,
sorry,
Bruce,
England,
two
minutes.
L
Well,
this
is
really
fast.
I
just
saw
this
news
release.
Maybe
it
was
from
today
City
calls
on
State's
local
investment,
Advisory
Board
to
responsibly
invest
in
companies
that
support
a
sustainable
environment.
I
was
very
happy
to
see
that
so
thanks
to
members
of
the
city
council
who
made
that
happen,
thank
you
very
much.
M
Thank
you,
mayor
I'm,
calling
in
as
a
resident
of
Mountain
View
as
a
member
of
the
public
safety,
Advisory
Board
and
as
the
Director
of
communications.
That's
the
at
the
Los
Altos
Mountain,
View,
Community,
Foundation
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
the
council
and
with
folks
that
are
listening.
M
What
I'm
hearing
from
our
community
that
has
been
affected
by
the
enforcement
of
measure
c
I
am
hearing
quite
dire
stories
of
the
people
who
no
longer
have
regular
access
to
clean,
running
water
or
restrooms
I'm,
hearing
about
real
fear
and
uncertainty
from
our
neighbors
who
are
being
affected
by
the
enforcement
since
a
week
ago,
Saturday
and
I
understand
that
ticketing
has
also
started
with
170
dollars
as
the
minimum
fee
for
violation
of
the
72-hour
Rule,
and
that
is
beyond
the
means
of
many
members
who
are
in
the
community
of
our
as
residents
of
our
RV
vehicles.
M
I
would
like
to
see
the
council
and
the
City
of
Mountain
View
continue
to
show
compassion
and
Humanity
as
we
go
forward
in
this
I
would
like
to
request
folks
to
look
at
temporarily
expanding
safe
parking
at
Shoreline,
Lot
B
and
in
enabling
the
most
vulnerable
members
of
the
RV
Community,
those
without
operable
Vehicles,
the
disabled,
seniors
and
families,
with
children's
in
schools
to
have
priority
to
those
to
those
potential
spots.
M
I
would
also
like
to
request
that
the
folks
who
are
in
charge
look
step
back
enforcement
of
the
72-hour
rule,
which
is
causing
a
lot
of
stress
and
which
was
not
originally
or
an
original
part
of
measure.
C
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
all
band
together
and
show
compassion
for
our
neighbors
in
this
matter.
Thank
you.
O
O
You
know
how
are
we
going
to
claim
that
we're
doing
anything
to
help
homelessness
in
the
unhoused,
if
we're
literally
charging
them
crazy
fees
for
just
existing?
Oh
spend
the
rest
of
my
time.
K
P
Hi,
my
name
is
Dan
dayback
I'm,
a
resident
of
Mountain
View
I
live
in
Old,
Town,
Mountain,
View,
I'm,
commenting
on
measure
c
and
the
unethical
enforcement
of
the
772-hour
rule.
We
are
criminalizing
poverty
by
doing
this,
also
at
States
in
the
Mountain
View
parking
regulations
that
it
may
be
considered
an
abandon
or
get
towed
if
a
car
has
been
left
on
the
sheet
for
72
hours.
So
how
is
this
rule
being
enforced?
Are
we
looking
at
older
vehicles?
Are
we
looking
at
vehicles
that
have
not
been
cleaned
in
Old
Town,
Mountain
View?
P
There
are
Teslas
parked
in
the
street
longer
than
72
hours.
Are
these
vehicles
being
ticketed?
If
we
compare
the
vehicles
that
have
been
ticketed
under
this
rule,
what
is
being
targeted?
Are
they
our
older
vehicles
or
are
they
new
ones?
If
someone
goes
on
vacation
and
leaves
their
car
on
the
street,
are
those
getting
ticketed?
How
is
this
rule
being
enforced?
H
Pirates
I'm
a
resident
of
Mountain
View
and
I
too
just
wanted
to
chime
in
regarding
measure
c
and
just
share
some
of
the
stories
that
we're
hearing
out
on
the
street.
Some
of
the
our
senior
neighbors
are
unable
to
access
water.
H
Several
of
our
vehicle
dwellers
are
unable
to
move
Vehicles
because
they
don't
have
the
funds
in
which
to
be
able
to
do
that.
There's
a
long
waiting
list
for
safe
parking,
which
is
a
wonderful
program
and
it's
working
for
our
inhabitants
as
a
voter
and
a
registered
voter
in
the
city
of
Mountain
View
I,
don't
believe
that
the
voters
were
aware
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
million
dollars
to
pay
for
signage,
that
80
percent,
roughly
of
our
streets,
were
going
to
have
those
signs
and
not
be
eligible
for
parking
for
wider
vehicles.
H
I
also
don't
believe
that
people
understood
the
Fallout
when
these
vehicles
now
are
starting
to
park
all
throughout
the
city
in
their
neighborhoods
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
any
awareness
or
die,
you
know
dialogue
around
that
and
what
it
really
meant
when
measure
C
was
enforced,
I
believe
we
are
a
compassionate
City.
We
we
have
a
compassionate,
Council
and
I
think
we're
just
seeing
now
the
ramifications
of
measure
C
enforcements
that
no
resident
I
believe
really
thought
was
going
to
to
happen.
H
H
You
know
just
you
know
when
we
think
about
compassion
week.
I
just
want
to
invite
our
community
to
go
to
siliconvalleyvolunteers.org
and
sign
up
for
the
hundreds
of
wonderful
projects
that
many
non-profits,
like
CSA,
like
hopes,
Corner
to
just
join
and
then
join
together
to
execute
cute
and
Elevate
compassion
in
our
city.
Thank
you.
I
yield
my
time.
A
A
Purpose
of
this
of
the
study
session
is
to
receive
direction
from
Council
on
options
for
additional
firearm
safety
legislation
and
if
staff
wouldn't
help,
would
help
me
Elevate
the
here
we
go
analyst
all
of
the
staff
would
need
to
be
in
the
presentation
feel
free
to
promote
to
panelists
distant
City
attorney.
Diana
fazelli
will
present
the
item
whenever
you're
ready,
Diana.
Q
Q
As
background
since
January
2020,
the
council
has
adopted
two
firearm
safety
ordinances,
the
first
prohibiting
the
possession
of
firearms
on
City
properties
and
also
requiring
safe
storage
of
firearms
in
homes
and
in
vehicles
on
June
14th.
This
year,
Council
directed
staff
to
return
to
the
city
council
with
additional
firearm
safety
legislation,
options.
Q
The
city
has
existing
firearm
regulations,
which
are
listed
in
this
Slide.
The
first
two
are
the
ordinances
that
I
had
just
mentioned
that
have
been
adopted
since
January
of
2020
.
Additionally.
The
city
has,
in
its
building
code
the
ability
to
require
additional
security
measures
on
buildings
that
are
used
for
weapon
ammunition
or
explosive
storage.
The
city
prohibits
discharge
of
firearms
within
the
city,
and
it
also
prohibits
The,
Possession
discharge
or
shooting
of
any
Firearms
within
city
parks
or
recreational
facilities.
Q
Most,
which
was
the
impetus,
was
the
recent
mass
shootings,
most
notably
the
one
that
occurred
in
uvald
Texas.
Those
for
13
state
laws
wanted
to
defect
immediately
upon
a
signature.
Q
In
June
of
this
year,
it's
U.S
Supreme
Court
decided
the
case
of
New
York,
State,
Rifle
and
Pistol
Association
versus
Bruin.
In
that
case,
the
Supreme
Court
decided
that
a
provision
of
New
York
state
law
that
required
concealed
carry
weapon
or
CCW
licensed
applicants
to
show
proper
cause
for
license
issuance
was
considered
was
decided
as
unconstitutional
under
the
Second
Amendment
California
has
a
similar
provision.
Q
Q
The
state
legislature
attempted
to
respond
to
the
Bruin
case
with
SB
918,
which
would
have
created
a
robust
framework
for
processing
CCW,
license
applications
and
also
would
have
included
additional
restrictions
on
CCW
licensees,
including
those
restrictions
on
what's
deemed
as
sensitive
or
what
the
state
legislature
deemed
as
sensitive
areas.
However,
that
bill
failed
by
just
one
vote.
Q
But
so
additional
research
on
our
end
would
be
required
to
to
ensure
that
the
sensitive
areas
that
we
designate
are
within
the
confines
of
the
new
Supreme
Court
case.
Additionally,
we
would
be
monitoring
State
legislation.
It
is
within
the
realm
of
possibility
that
a
bill
like
SB
918
would
be
introduced
again
because
it
did
just
fail
by
one
vote
and
we
would
be
monitoring
if
that
occurs,
to
prevent
any
preemption
issues.
Q
And,
finally,
again
we
will
be
monitoring
any
sort
of
litigation,
including
the
New
York,
the
state
of
New
York
case
to
ensure
that
what
we
propose
is
legally
viable
for
the
council
to
consider.
Q
The
second
option
would
be
to
enact
a
new
ordinance
to
create
a
licensing
framework
for
firearm
dealers.
This
would
require
firearm
dealers
in
order
for
them
to
be
able
to
conduct
business
within
City
and
Mountain
View
they'd.
They
would
be
required
to
obtain
a
license
from
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department,
though
that
license
can
include
certain
requirements
such
as
requiring
liability
insurance.
Q
We
it
could
also
prohibit
the
firearm
dealer
from
conducting
business
from
their
home,
and
also
we
can
require
the
firearm
dealers
from
conducting
business
I'm.
Sorry
imposing
The
Vocational
restrictions
on
these
firearm
dealers,
meaning
they
would
be
required
to
be
a
certain
distance
away
from
areas
that
in
which
children
congregate,
such
as
schools,
day,
cares
and
Parks.
Q
If
Council
does
direct
stuff
to
move
forward
with
this
option,
the
staff
also
requests
Council
to
provide
Direction
on
how
to
address
those
existing
firearm.
Dealers
who
conduct
business
from
their
homes
and
or
conduct
business
within
a
certain
distance
from
schools,
daycares
and
or
Parks.
So
that
would
require
Direction
on
whether
we
should
grandfather
in
those
existing
firearm
dealers,
meaning
they
would
be
permitted
to
continue
to
operate.
Q
This
slide
is
the
table.
That's
also
provided
in
study
session
memoranda
with
the
correction
that
I
that
Los
Gatos
does
prohibit
firearm
sales
as
home
occupations,
so
this
x
was
missing
in
the
study
session
memo,
but
I've
corrected
it
here,
so
it
provides
kind
of
the
layout
of
what
some
of
our
neighboring
cities
have
in
regards
to
the
options
that
we've
provided
for
you.
Q
And
finally,
these
are
the
questions
that
staff
is
seeking:
counsel
Direction
on
first
weather
Council
wants
to
expand
locations
where
Firearms
are
pivoted.
Does
council
want
to
impose
a
license
requirement
for
our
firearm
dealers?
Q
Then
discounts
will
want
to
prohibit
firearm
sales
as
a
home
occupation.
Does
council
want
to
restrict
firearm
dealers
from
being
a
certain
distance
from
schools,
parks
and
daycares?
If
so,
what
distance
and
then,
if
Council,
provides
direction
to
move
forward
with
three
numbers?
Three
and
four
in
particular,
does
council
want
to
amortize
or
grandfather
in
the
existing
firearm
dealers
and
depending
on
Council
Direction.
The
timing
for
bring
back
does
vary
and
with
that
I'm
available
for
any
questions
that
the
council
may
have.
I
I'm
interested
in
the
efforts
that
are
going
on
throughout
the
county
to
do
this
on
a
regional
basis,
I
I
think
that
that
could
be
a
very
effective
way
to
go.
So.
Could
you
explain
that
a
little
bit
to
us.
Q
So
the
county-wide,
so
we
I
am
aware
that
other
cities
are
considering
the
sensitive
areas
type
of
ordinance.
However,
it
is
still
being
analyzed
by
those
specific
by
those
relative
cities-
respected
cities,
for
example
in
Sunnyvale.
They
did
have
a
similar
study
session
just
in
August
and
their
Council
directed
their
staff
to
explore
that
type
of
legislation
and
as
for
licensing
as
the
table
noted,
some
of
our
neighboring
cities
already
do
have
a
licensing
requirement,
so
we
would
be
consistent
with
some
some
or
most
of
our
neighboring
cities.
In
that
respect,.
I
I
understood
from
my
discussion
this
morning
with
the
city
attorney
that
that
there
was
were
efforts
going
on
between
all
the
county,
City
attorneys
related
to
the
concealed
carry,
and
so,
although
it
hasn't
necessarily
that
effort
hasn't
necessarily
expanded
to
include
the
things
that
are
mentioned
here,
the
group
has
gotten
together
and
is
talking
about
gun
safety.
So,
yes,
it
does
provide
a
potential.
I
mean
I.
Just
wanted
to
ask
about.
Do
you
see
that
as
providing
a
potential
platform
for
collaboration
on
this
topic,.
Q
Yes,
absolutely
so
the
the
city's
attorneys
and
the
or
North
County
are
meeting
about
the
concealed,
carry
weapon
permit
issue
and
then
specifically,
we
will
be
discussing
the
sensitive
areas,
legislation
we
haven't
gotten
into
the
details
yet,
but
that
is
somewhere
where
we
will
be
collaborating.
Okay,.
I
And
also,
what
is
the
sort
of
relative
value
of
having
this
kind
of
legislation
be
done
on
a
more
Regional
than
a
city-by-city
basis?.
Q
That's
a
good
question:
I'm,
not
sure
if
there's
any
value
on
a
little,
you
know
at
a
risk
perspective.
However,
it
does
provide
from
us.
You
know
a
public
safety
perspective.
You
know,
you
know
if,
if
all
the
cities
in
the
county
have
similar
restrictions
on
possession
of
firearms,
you
know
it
would
provide.
Perhaps
you
know
those
who
would
carry
their
guns
illegally.
Q
More
give
them
more
caution
as
to
do
that
in
Santa,
Clara,
County
versus
you
know
doing
not
being
able
to
do
in
Campbell
but
being
able
to
do
it
in
San
Jose.
You
know
so
I'm
sorry,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
able
to
okay
I.
I
Think
we
get
the
concept
which
is
that
it
it
it
it
would
be.
You
know,
a
stronger
prohibition
and
probably
more
effective.
That's
that's
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
would
the
council
prefer
if
we
just
continue
with
questions
and
then
to
public
coming
after,
since
everybody
started
that
councilmember
Lieber
you're
up
next.
E
Thank
you
mayor,
and
maybe
we
could
ask
the
the
community
that
will
ultimately
comment
about
the
efforts
that
they've
been
making
over
the
years
to
try
to
get
a
unified
approach
to
this,
because
I
know
that
the
the
protections
that
are
present
in
Palo
Alto,
for
example,
have
been
there
for
more
than
10
years
and
I.
Had
a
question
about
the
issue
of
amortization.
E
Q
Yes,
so
if
Council
directs
us
to
prohibit
firearm
cells
as
a
home
occupation
moving
forward
and
allowing
and
then
also
giving
those
existing
Firearms
or
arm
dealers
a
certain
period
of
time
to
cease
operation,
then
that
would
happen
concurrently.
So
any
new
firearm
dealers
they
would
not
be
able
to
conduct
business
from
their
homes
and
the
existing
ones
would
be
just
given
a
period
of
time
in
order
for
them
to
come
into
compliance,
meaning
you
know
stopping
their
operations
from
their
home.
E
And
how
how
large
is
the
the
spacing
requirement
in
Palo
Alto
for
a
ban
on
Firearms
dealing
adjacent
to
child
uses
such
as
daycare
or
schools
parks.
G
Well,
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
naive
procedural
question,
but
I
realized
when
I
read
the
staff
report.
I
wasn't
clear
on
it,
so
you
you're
asking
us
to
study
now
and
then
we're
gonna
I'm
checking
whether
this
is
true.
G
Whether
my
understanding
is
true
we're
having
the
study
session,
we
could
opt
to
put
between
one
and
four
of
these,
but
we
would
re-review
these
during
our
work
plan
and
then
maybe
which
we
do
in
January
or
February
after
the
election,
and
then
we
would
have
to
decide
what
to
not
do
is
that
this
may
be
a
city
manager.
Question
I'm,
not
sure,
is
that
the
procedure
that
I
I
thought
I
had
heard
before,
but
I'm
not
completely
clear.
On.
B
If,
if
I
could
address
that,
this
is
a
City
Attorney,
Jennifer
Logue,
yes,
so,
depending
on
what
council
decides
this
evening,
you'll.
B
Direction
you'll
give
us
parameters
on
what
you'd
like
to
see
in
the
legislation
that
we
bring
back
depending
on
what
what
you
direct
us
with
some
of
it
is
going
to
require
a
little
more
research
than
others,
and
between
now
and
February,
when
you're
going
to
come
back
and
consider
your
work
plan,
we
will
see
how
far
along
we
get
in
my
conversation
with
council
member
Shaw
Walter
earlier
today,
she
brought
up
the
idea
of
possibly
of
us
submitting
a
a
memo
to
you
prior
to
February,
letting
you
know
how
far
we've
gotten
and
what
what
work
would
be
left
to
do
in
order
to
bring
the
legislation
forward.
B
As
you
know,
our
office
provides
support
pretty
much
on
everything
on
the
work
plan,
and
so
we
need
to
balance
our
workload
with
what
else
is
on
the
work
plan
and
any
other
deadlines
that
come
with
with
the
items
on
your
work
plan.
So
we
try
to
give
you
a
good
picture
prior
to
February,
so
you'd
know
how
to
make
a
decision
when
you
decide
to
work
on
it.
Is
that
does
that
help.
G
G
And
then
you
bring
it
back
when
you
know
the
full,
when
you
have
a
better
idea
on
on
what
the
impacts
on
various
departments
would
be
of
each
of
these
four
or
whichever
we
select
by
the
end
of
the
night.
Okay,
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
ask
was
your,
but
maybe
I
don't
have
to
was
your
initial
kind
of
a
rundown
of
each
one
of
the
four
which
departments
you
thought
would
be
impacted.
G
So
you
know
whether
it's
Community
Development,
you
know
land
use,
whether
it
I
mean
I,
think
all
of
them
are
the
city
attorney's
office.
So
you
could
give
me
that
rundown
or
you
could
say
you'd
rather
just
save
that
for
the
memo
that
you
were
just
talking
about.
B
I
think
we
can
say
with
certainty
that
the
police
department
will
be
affected
because
they
will
carry
the
burden
of
processing
the
licenses.
We've
stopped.
We've
talked
to
Chief
Sean
about
this
at
length,
and
so
he's
aware
we
are
not
a.
We
are
not
clear
at
this
time
what,
if
any
other
departments
would
be
affected
and
whether
or
not
the
effect
would
be
long
term
on
that
there
might
be
some
short-term
impacts
but
long
term.
It's
the
police
department.
B
A
S
Thanks
just
a
clarifying
question
in
the
staff
report,
it
talks
about
option
one
and
option
two
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
are
synergies
between
the
items
listed
there,
because
then
in
the
presentation
we
just
saw
it
had
things
broken
out,
so
are
we?
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
give
direction
on
each
of
the
individual
items
broken
out
or
is
it
option
one
and
option
two.
Q
That's
a
good
question.
Thank
you,
councilmember
check
so
for
option.
Two,
and
specifically,
we
have
the
licensing
framework,
which
is
one
option,
and
we
for
the
prohibit
prohibition
on
home
occupations
and
the
locational
restrictions
it
from
a
compliance
standpoint.
It
makes
the
most
sense
to
have
those
restrictions
as
part
of
a
licensing
framework
so
that
when
Mountain
View,
when
the
police
department
receives
an
application,
they
can
check,
mark
and
say:
okay,
this
person's
not
conducting
business
from
their
homes
and
they're
within
this
certain
distance
away
from
schools,
parks
and
daycares.
Q
E
Thank
you
mayor.
One
of
the
vice
mayor's
comments
caused
a
you
know
have
a
question
again.
E
If
the
county
were
to
have
a
sudden
burst
of
activity
and
come
forward
with
very
similar
measures,
then
we
would
have
the
chance
to
cut
back
on
our
approach
or
work
with
them
in
some
way
before
the
the
goal
setting
would
come
up
or
be
concluded.
Is
it
right?
A
A
This
is
for
the
gun
safety
legislation
study
session,
we'll
go
ahead
and
allocate
two
minutes.
The
first
speaker
is
Rachel.
T
Yes,
hi
hi
city,
council
members.
Thank
you
so
much
I'm
a
volunteer
with
moms
The,
Man
action
and
citizen
here,
a
resident
of
Mountain,
View
and
I
am
just
coming
to
applaud
city
council
for
taking
to
her
holding
the
study
session
and
taking
this
very
necessary
first
step
in
comedian,
keeping
our
everyone
safe
and
furthering
gun
safety
among
our
community.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
for
all
that
you
do
on
gun
safety.
Thank
you.
U
Hi,
this
is
Tom
Chapman
I'm,
a
resident
of
Mountain
View
and
I'm
opposing
additional
gun
regulations
in
Mountain
View
option.
One
is
the
main
one
and
right
now
there's
a
court
case
going
on
it's
crpa
versus
city
of
Glendale.
The
case
is
about
sensitive
places,
which
is
the
same
as
what
we're
talking
about
here.
U
U
The
court
case
of
burn
Berwin
says
the
government
must
justify
its
regulation
by
demonstrating
that
is
consistent
with
the
nation's
historical
tradition
of
firearm
regulations
and
I'd
recommend
for
the
legal
department
to
contact
The,
California,
Rifle
and
Pistol
Association
for
their
input,
they're,
the
ones
that
are
suing
the
city
of
Glendale
great,
also,
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department's
great.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
service.
A
I'm
sorry,
sometimes
the
button
works,
and
sometimes
it
doesn't.
Thank
you
very
much
so
see
no
other
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak.
We
will
return
to
the
council
for
for
comments
and,
potentially
straw
motions
for
each
of
the
items
that
were
presented
in
the
in
the
the
presentation,
councilmember
leaver.
E
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
very
much
appreciate
my
colleagues
agreeing
to
hear
this
item.
I
I
think
it's
very,
very
important
that
if
not
a
leadership
position
that
we
are
strongly
pursuing
this
issue
and
my
own
view
is
that
I
would
like
to
see
us
taking
an
addition.
Initial
pass
at
both
options.
One
and
options
two
and
I
understand
that
some
of
them
may
not
work
out
due
to
the
the
changing
landscape
in
terms
of
legislation
and
in
terms
of
court
cases.
E
But
I
would
like
to
see
us
pursue
a
full
boat
approach
to
having
the
most
protective
ordinances
that
we
possibly
can
in
Mountain,
View
and
I.
Think
that
Palo
Alto
has
said
a
very
good
example
for
having
a
a
comprehensive
approach
and
in
terms
of
what
we're
looking
at
here.
E
So
I
I
think
that
we
should
pursue
as
many
options
as
possible
and
at
least
have
the
research
done
on
them,
so
that
we're
able
to
see
the
lay
of
the
land
and,
at
the
time
of
our
goal,
setting
and
do
do
the
best
that
we
can
to
be
protective
for
our
community.
A
Councilmember
Lieber,
just
for
for
my
benefit,
the
the
questions
in
the
staff
report
were
slightly
different
from
the
questions
in
the
the
presentation
provided
a
few
minutes
ago,
and
so
did
you
support?
A
So
the
the
questions
I
wrote
down
were
a
little
bit
more
granular,
so
expanding
locations,
I
think
that's
for
the
prohibition
of
carrying
firearms
license
requirements,
restricting
home
occupations
restricting
distance
from
schools,
parks
and
other
sensitive
areas,
and
then
there
was
a
preliminary
Direction
on
how
far,
but
that
distance
should
be
and
then
Direction
on
what
to
do
about
existing
businesses.
E
E
I
support
all
those
strategies
I
would
like
to.
E
Potentially,
look
at
250
or
500
feet
in
terms
of
the
storefront
businesses
and
I
I
would
like
to
see
us
pursue
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
storefront
businesses
so
that
people
in
our
community
have
the
have
knowledge
about
businesses
that
are
coming
in
and
and
I
would
like
to
limit
the
conditional
use
permits
to
the
number
of
of
stores
that
we
have
right
now
and
I
absolutely
want
to
see
the
the
home
businesses
out
of
our
neighborhoods
and
I
think
that
a
a
short
period
of
time
to
recognize
that
they
would
need
to
find
a
a
place
of
business.
E
That's
not
in
a
home
on
a
residential
street
is
is
reasonable,
but
I
I
support
all
of
these
strategies
and
I
support
them
all
in
their
strongest
versions.
E
Because,
frankly,
the
this
has
been
something
that
a
lot
of
councils
have
been
talked
to
over
a
long
long
period
of
time
and
I.
I
can
really
say
without
getting
overly
emotional,
that
I'm
I'm,
fed
up
with
inaction
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
everything
in
our
power
to
be
protective
for
our
community
members.
A
Yes,
I'll
just
need
to
make
sure
I
can
go
back
and
forth
to
make
sure
I'm
capturing
everyone's
hand,
so
yeah,
let's
go
ahead
and
put
that
up
for
now
sure
thank
you,
council,
member
ABI,
Coca.
D
Pinkamir
so
I
100
agree
with
councilmember
Lieber.
This
has
been
an
issue.
That's
been
a
priority
for
me
for
many
years.
That's
why
I
brought
up
gun
safety
legislation
or
local
ordinances
several
years
ago.
At
that
time,
the
council,
during
goal
session,
that
staff
resources
wise.
We
could
only
do
one
a
year,
so
we
went
with
that.
I
think
we've
done
two
since
then,
but
each
time
there's
a
tragedy.
D
It
brings
back
this
issue
and
I
I'm
at
a
point
where
I
just
think
that
we
all
should
I
also
think
that
we
should
just
do
whatever
we
can
in
our
power
locally
to
to
provide
the
the
strictest
or
the
the
most
protection
regarding
gun,
safety
and
so
I.
You
know
I
would
support.
Frankly
doing
all
of
these,
you
know
I
can't
help
but
bring
up
like
for
me
personally
the
tragedy
at
the
VTA
site
last
year.
D
It's
still
and
it's,
it's
has
completely
devastated
the
agency
and
employees
and
seeing
that
and
it
being
so
close
to
home,
makes
this
so
important
for
me
to
that.
We
we
do
what
we
can
so
one
I
do:
support
expanding
locations
where
Firearms
are
prohibited,
I
believe
we're
talking
about
sensitive
locations,
which
is
number
four.
D
So
all
of
those
all
of
those
areas
and
whatever
was
included
in
the
staff
report,
I
would
support
I,
don't
know,
I
can't
trying
to
remember
I,
think
we
had
some
kind
of
distance
of,
but
with
cannabis
shops
and
how
close
they
could
be
to
like
a
school
and
I'm.
Hoping
staff
could
remind
me
what
that
was,
but,
to
be
frank,
I
think
you
know,
even
a
mile
away
from
a
school
is
is
too
close.
D
We
have
some.
We
have
some
stores
that
are
I.
Looked
up
on
our
map
like
point
three
miles
from
a
daycare
and
point
like
half
a
mile
from
a
school
you
just
go.
You
know
straight
up
the
street
and
you're
at
a
elementary
school
and
to
me
that's
too
close,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
furthest
descent
is
that
we
could
do,
but
that
would
be
my
preference,
but
if
there
is
a
like
a
reference
with
the
Cannabis
shops,
I
I
would
you
know,
look
at
that
number.
D
Two
license
requirements,
I
believe
Santa,
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
has
done
that
or
I
think
that's
with
insurance.
D
So
yes
for
two
and
include
and
requiring
the
insurance
piece,
three
absolutely
prohibiting
home
occupations
and
I
would
say
you
know:
I
would
support
an
amortization
period,
but
that
would
include
you
know,
ban
on
any
new
new
businesses
and
then
for
figuring
out
some
kind
of
time
in
frame
to
phase
out
the
existing
businesses
and
and
either
for
help
giving
them
time
to
find
a
location
or
I
guess
it
was
something
about
recouping
thoughts.
D
So
I
would
support
that,
so
that
was
number
five
and
I
think
that
answers
them
all.
Thank
you.
B
K
A
G
You
know
in
a
memo
and
for
the
work
review
during
the
work
plan,
in
terms
of,
and
yes
hope,
that
the
county
goes
ahead
of
us
on
some
of
them
so
that
we
can
be
uniform
across
the
county
in
terms
of
things
like
how
many,
what
the
number
of
feet
away
from
schools,
Park,
Day,
Care,
Etc
I,
would
just
like
to
hear
in
that
memo.
What
other
I'm
not
going
to
take
a
stab
at
it.
G
Now
what
best
practices
are
in
our
surrounding
cities
so
that
we
can
Benchmark
from
those
or
who
knows?
Maybe
we
want
to
do
the
one
better
and
yes
I'd,
like
also
in
the
memo
I'd
like
the
memo
to
include
kind
of
best
practices
of
the
Cities
listed.
So
we
can
make
those
decisions
then,
and
I'll
just
say.
My
reasoning
is
I.
Think
the
the
vast
majority
of
people
in
Mountain
View
do
want
this
to
happen.
So
I
I
would
like
to
make
it
happen.
Thank
you.
I
Well,
I
think
the
thing
that
we're
all
getting
at
with
with
gun
regulations
is
to
make
our
community
safer.
That's
really
what
we're
and
make
our
society
safer,
that
that's
really
what
we're
after
and
I,
had
a
great
discussion
with
both
the
City
attorney
and
the
chief
of
police
this
morning
about
this,
because
it's
you
know
it's
something
that
that
is
very
important
to
me,
too.
I
I
grew
up
in
a
in
a
part
of
the
country
where
guns
were
very
prevalent
and
it
does
change
how
things
work,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
loved
about
living
here
has
been
the
absence
of
guns
it
just
it
just
makes
life
a
lot
less
stressful
and
that's
you
know,
that's
that's
a
good
thing
anyway.
Chief
John
shared
with
me
this
report
that
was
done
for
the
county
called
the
cost
of
gun
violence
in
Santa,
Clara
County.
I
It
came
out
in
August
and
I
believe
that
there
is
a
hot
link
to
it
in
our
questions
and
answers
tonight
anyway.
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
all
of
you
take
a
look
at
it,
because
what
they're
talking
about
as
making
our
society
safer,
these
things
are
are
part
of
the
equation.
Yes,
but
even
more
so
are
the
equity.
Is
the
equity
work
that
we
are
doing
and
so
I
I
want
to
bring
that
I
want
to
bring
that
up,
because
we
should.
I
We
should
be
interested
in
what
the
experts
have
to
say
about
what
is
effective,
so
that
Equity
work
that
we
are
doing.
You
know
using
an
equity
lens
and
our
budgeting
and
taking
Equity
into
consideration
and
Zoning
changes.
Those
are
also
important
components
of
making
our
community
safer
and
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
make
that
part
of
this
discussion,
because
really
that's
the
bottom
line
here,
is
making
the
community
more
peaceful
and
safer
right.
I
mean
I
I.
Think
that's
that's.
I
What
we're
after
So,
based
on
that
so
I
just
want
to
share
this
with
everybody,
and
it
does
have
some
interesting
data
about
how
many
guns
that
there
are
in
Santa
Clara
County.
It's
a
it's
sort
of
a
shocking
number,
but
the
other
thing
I
think
that's
quite
interesting.
I
Is
that
whereas
something
like
eight
eighteen
percent
of
the
county
has
people
own
guns,
the
people
who
own
guns,
often
own
four
or
five
of
them-
they're,
not
you
know
they're,
not
it's
that
one
gone
for
one
person,
kind
of
thing
and
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting
anyway.
I
Back
to
the
questions
before
us,
I
I
am
interested
in
the
in
pursuing
all
of
these
questions,
but
really,
with
the
strong
caveat
that
it
would
be
so
much
more
effective
to
do
this
as
part
of
a
county
effort
that
I
think
we
should
be
asking
our
you
know
our
City
attorney
to
to
Really
take
an
active
role
and
and
trying
to
make
that
happen,
because
it
would
be
so
much
better.
I
mean
you
think
about
how
easy
it
is
to
go
from
Community
to
community.
I
Here
you
know
it's
just
it's
just
a
few
steps
for
many
of
us,
so
I
think
that
having
these
having
these
rules
be
consistent
over
a
bigger
area
is
just
much
more
protective.
The
only
one
I
I
think
I
would
diverge
from
what
has
been
said
today
is
the
one
in
number.
Five
and
I
I
think
that
personally
I
would
really
be
interested
more
in
a
grandfather
of
existing
firearms
dealers.
We
do
not
have
a
history
of
problems
with
these
home
businesses
and
so
I.
I
You
know
I
feel
that
having
them
grandfathered
in
is
reasonable,
especially
when
they
would
be
getting
licenses
on
a
regular
basis
and
I
also
seem
to
remember,
from
my
days
and
on
the
Planning
Commission,
that
the
legal
bar
for
amortization
versus
grandfathering
was
very
different,
and
that
might
be
a
very
significant
work
work
issue.
So
that's
something
that
I
hope
that
the
county,
the
City
attorney,
will
weigh
in
for
us
and
I.
Think
that
answers
the
questions.
Thank
you.
V
Great
thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
bringing
this
forward
and
the
continued
conversation,
as
this
topic
evolves
on
a
policy
level
and
and
I'm
supportive
of
the
direction
that
my
colleagues
have
have
shared.
So
I,
don't
really
have
too
much
additional
so
for
one
through
four,
yes,
I'd
be
interested
in
in
learning
more
and
and
hearing
from
staff.
I
think
for
number
five
it
would
I.
V
I
would
be
interested
to
hear
both
the
amortization,
as
well
as
the
grandfathering
I
think
I'm
not
well
versed
in
the
topic,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
the
the
options
I
see.
The
City
attorney
raised
her
and
mayor
sorry.
V
Okay,
okay,
thank
you!
Okay,
so
you
know
five
I
guess:
I'll
leave
for
the
City
attorney
to
answer
that
question
for
us,
but
one
through
four.
Yes,
supportive
of
looking
at
those
options.
One
thing
that
I
that
I've
increasingly
heard
and
I
would
love
for
the
the
council
to
consider
as
like
the
education
component.
V
So
you
know
I
do
think
that
the
the
different
legislative
safety
measures
are
important,
but
I
also
think
that
it
will
be
a
bridge
for
the
for
us
to
do
an
educational
component
on
on
that
and
or
if
there's
firearm
safety,
that
the
police
department
or
the
school
districts
are
sharing
with
the
community.
If
that
can
be
shared
with
Council
I.
V
Think
that
there's
some
some
good
information
sharing
that
can
happen
there
and
I
know
we
have
a
very
active
Mom's
demand
action
chapter
in
our
area,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
can
add
that
as
just
something
to
to
bring
back
as
an
informational,
I
wouldn't
want
to
add
anything
additional,
but
just
wanted
to
to
state
that.
Thank
you.
A
S
Thanks
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
what
do
you
prefer
was
for
me
or
for
you
but
anyway,
so
there
were
some
comments
made
that
I
definitely
agree
with,
and
let
me
Point
those
out
I
think
it
would
be
better
if
the
laws
were
done
at
the
state
level
and
if
it
can't
be
known
state
level,
then
at
the
county
level
I
think
it's
good
to
have
consistency
and
so
I
agree
with
my
colleagues
who
said
that
I'm
not
sure.
S
That's
all
going
to
happen,
however,
so
I
am
interested
in
doing
something
at
the
local
level.
I
appreciate
the
comparison
of
what
other
cities
have
either
done
or
not
done.
That's
always
helpful,
because
when
we're
striving
to
have
a
bit
of
consistency,
that's
good
to
know
so
for
me,
I
would
given
staff
constraints.
S
I
was
actually
going
to
break
it
out
even
further
than
just
option
two
in
general,
but
it
sounds
like
there's
more
synergies
than
I
thought
there
were,
but
I
would
prioritize
the
stuff
in
option
two
over
the
stuff
in
option.
One
assuming
that
you're
not
going
to
work
on
both
of
these
at
the
same
time,
so
then
with
option
two
I
agree
with
the
comment
about
I:
don't
think
we
should
have
any
new
businesses,
whether
they
be
storefront
or
at
home
and
I
I.
S
Don't
know
that
I
have
enough
information
to
make
a
to
provide
Direction
on,
do
I,
think,
amortization
or
grandfather
is
the
way
to
go.
I
would
need
more
information
on
the
three
at-home
businesses
that
we
have
things
like.
How
long
have
they
been
in
existence?
Do
we
have
any
information
on
their
sales?
Where
are
they
really
located
so
I
I'm?
S
Sorry,
I
can't
really
give
you
Direction
on
that
I
need
more
information,
but
if
we
don't
allow
any
new
businesses,
I
think
the
question
of
the
distance
from
sensitive
areas,
perhaps
as
a
moot
point,
because
we're
not
allowing
any
new
ones.
S
Although
I
guess
that
could
be
interpreted
if
a
school
is
built
close
to
an
existing
business,
what
do
we
do?
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
the
answer
to
that
one
either.
So
I
would
need
more
information
on
that.
S
What
might
be
logical,
Alternatives
in
the
pros
and
cons
of
them
and
let's
see
on
option
one?
Yes,
I'm
interested
in
expanding
the
locations,
but
again
for
me:
I'm
more
focused
on
the
elements
of
option
two
before
we
get
to
option
one,
and
we
can
always
talk
about
this
in
February,
because
I'm
assuming
this
won't
all
happen
and
get
done
before.
We
have
our
discussion
about
the
work
plan
and,
let's
see
I,
think
that's
it
thanks.
B
So
let
me
provide
a
little
information
about
amortization
and
grandfathering
in
and
also
tie
it
to
the
distance.
So
we
did
have
a
GIS
map
drawn
for
us
and
we
know
that
if
you
go
out
as
far
as
500
feet,
you
will
affect
one
of
the
existing
brick
and
mortar
businesses,
and
so
it's
going.
It
becomes
very
important
to
determine
whether
or
not
you
want
to
amortize
or
grandfather
in.
If
you
stay
at
250
feet,
I
think
we
are
probably
safe
with
regard
to
the
existing
businesses.
B
But
if
you,
if,
if
you
go
at
250
feet
and
you're
not
affecting
the
the
brick
and
mortar
businesses
that
exist,
then
new
businesses
that
come
in
would
also
have
to
stay
within
that
250
foot
range.
We
wouldn't
be
preventing
new
brick
and
mortar
businesses
coming
in
only
home
occupation.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
two,
those
two
distinctions
and
then
amortization.
B
We
have
done
some
preliminary
legal
research
and
we
have
not
seen
amortization
less
than
a
year
so
and
it's
gone
from
from
just
the
cases.
We've
looked
at
it's
anywhere
from
one
to
four
years,
so
I
I
heard
a
statement
about
it
being
short,
but
there
is
a
whole
analysis
that
goes
into
the
amortization
period
with
regard
to
providing
them
an
opportunity
to
recoup
their
investment
in
their
business,
and
that
requires
a
significant
analysis
as
to
what
their
investment
in
it
was
into
their
business
in
their
current
location.
B
So
that
is
something
we
would
have
to
come
back
to
you
on
to
let
you
know
we
would
make
a
recommendation
based
on
our
findings
on
how
long
that
amortization
period
would
would
be
so
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
that
would
be
governed
by
California
law,
and
there
are
pretty
you
know
real
parameters
on
that
that
we
would
have
to
consider,
so
it
probably
wouldn't
be
less
than
a
year
and
and
likely
more
than
that
for
some
of
the
businesses.
So
I
wanted
to
give
some
perspective
on
that.
B
If
you
grandfather
your
grandfather
in
the
existing
and
all
of
the
any
new
ones
that
tried
to
come
in,
there
would
be
no
new
home
occupations
and
any
new
brick
and
mortars
that
tried
to
come
into
place
would
have
to
be
at
the
distance
that
you
adopt.
So
if
you
adopt
250
or
500
feet,
they
would
have
to
be
with.
You
know
that
distance
away
from
any
schools,
Parks
or
daycares
so
I,
don't
know.
If
that
helps,
we
do
have
some
GIS
maps.
B
E
B
Now,
if,
if
the
business
was
was
potentially
sold
or
you
know,
someone
else
tried
to
come
in,
it
may
not
apply
to
them
it
would,
it
could
potentially
apply
to
I
mean
we'd
have
to
do
a
lot
of
research
on
that,
but
it
basically
it's
a
zoning
allowance
and
so
I
think
it
would
just
apply
to
that
particular
use
for
that
building
and
would
always
exist.
If
you
grandfather
it,
it
would
always
exist
so
that
particular
building
could
always
be
used
as
gun
retail.
B
If
you'd
grandfather
and
I
don't
know
that,
there's
any
such
thing
as
a
limited
grandfather
I
think
that's
really
what
you're
talking
about
is
amortization
and
you
would
just
you
could
make
it
for
a
longer
period
of
time.
You
know
for
years,
but
then,
after
the
amortization
we'd
be
asking,
we
would
that
use
would
no
longer
be
permitted
in
that
location.
So
no
more
gun,
retails
sales
could
be
out
of
that
location,
so
there's
no.
E
Okay,
and
so
if
we
pursued
a
500
foot
radius,
then
it
we
would
have
one
bricks
and
mortar
business
that
we
would
have
to
figure
out
what
improvements
they
had
put
into
the
structure.
E
And
so
we
can
both
ban
home
dealing
and
require
a
conditional
use
permit
for
bricks
and
mortar
businesses
and
limit
those
to
outside
of
a
500
foot
radius
and
limit
the
number
of
conditional
use
permits
that
would
be
available.
We.
B
Hadn't
looked
into
limiting
the
number
of
the
conditional
use
permits
that
would
be
available,
but
we
can
do
that.
We
can
look
into
whether
or
not
we
can
limit
the
number
of
permits
that
could
be
issued.
We
had
not
considered
that
that
particular
that
particular
Factor,
but
we
could.
We
could
look
at
that
to
see
if
we
could
limit
say,
for
instance,
no
more
than
three
or
something
like
that
within
the
city
I.
We
didn't
consider
it,
but
we
can.
Q
And
I'd
like
to
clarify
for
conditional
use
permits,
are
typically
granted
by
the
CDD
department
and
so
I
just
want
to
clarify.
Do
we
mean
a
conditional
use
permit
under
planning
or
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department's
license
that
we've
presented
as
an
option
tonight?
E
Through
through
the
mayor,
if
I,
if
I
may
add
on
a
little
bit,
I
I
don't
really
care
whether
it's
a
police
permit
to
operate
or
a
conditional
use
permit
I'd
like
to
go
with
whichever
path
is,
is
easier,
and
but
my
main
thrust
is
I
want
to
limit
the
number
of
of
bricks
and
mortar
businesses
and
I
want
to
eliminate
the
the
home
occupations.
A
I'm
gonna.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
ask
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
Then
we'll
sorry
I'll
go
back
to
the
for
another
round
of
comments
regarding
difference
between
grandfathering
and
amortization
it.
It
does
seem
like
there
is
another
option,
and
that
would
be
something
akin
to
a
legal
non-conforming
use,
which
my
understanding
means
in
existing
use
that
was
legally
permitted
can
continue.
B
That's
what
we're
calling
grandfathering?
Yes,
that's
correct!
That's
exactly
what
we're
calling
grandfathering!
So
as
long
as
the
business,
it
would
become
a
legal
non-conforming
use
as
long
as
it
was
continued
to
operate
as
a
gun
retail.
If
it
ever
switched
and
became
a
clothing
store
right
and
no
longer
was
used
as
a
retail
business,
a
gun
sales
business,
it
could
not
go
convert
back
to
it.
So.
B
A
K
A
That's
not
okay,
no
worries,
thanks
for
the
clarification
and
then
another
question,
I
guess
about
process.
My
understanding
is
stats
will
return
with
some
analysis,
but
this
basically
is
all
going
through
the
goal
setting
process
next
year
and
and
I'm
curious
to
know
how
much
granular
detail
you
need
from
us
right
now
when
this
is
all
going
to
be
discussed
again
as
part
of
the
goal
setting
process.
Do
you
do
you.
R
A
B
I
think,
knowing
how
you
want
to
handle
existing
businesses
that
we're
gonna
that
are
going
to
be
affected
and
the
the
distance
that
you
would
want
to
impose
is
important
to
know,
because
that
really
is
going
to
help
us
figure
out
how
long
it's
going
to
take
us
to
bring
this
legislation
back.
So
we
would,
what
we'd
be
doing
is
letting
you
know
before
February.
A
D
Thank
you
mayor
question
regarding
limiting
the
number
of
businesses
is:
do
we
are
we
required
to
allow
any
businesses
at
all.
B
B
I,
don't
know
that
you
could
effectively
prohibit
gun
retail
sales
as
a
whole.
I
do
not
have
that
answer
tonight,
so
that
would
be
a
whole
different.
You
know
legal
analysis.
We
would
have
to
perform.
D
Q
If
I
may,
because
the
have
possessing
or
having
a
firearm
is
considered
a
constitutional
right,
there
is
more
of
you
know
a
stronger
argument
that
we
would
need
to.
We
couldn't
prohibit
gun
stores
altogether,
there's
actually
a
case
out
of
Alameda
County
to
share
a
versus
County
of
Alameda,
in
which
the
court
explored
this.
This
question
and
stated
you
know
if
there
was
a
restriction
on
you
know:
U.S
citizens
being
able
to
acquire
firearms
that
could
be
considered
a
restraint,
restraining
their
Second
Amendment
right
under
the
Constitution.
G
But
for
you
know,
other
people
have
talked
about
reasons
for
consistency,
but
I
also
would
think
that
would
make
it
like
less
legally
complex.
So.
G
A
K
I
Yeah
I,
basically
concur
with
what
vice
mayor,
Hicks
just
said,
and
I
also
had
a
question
for
the
Chiefs.
Do
we
have
any
data
that
shows
that
changing
these
numbers
between,
like
250
feet
and
500
feet,
really
increases
safety?
I
mean
what
that's
I,
I
really
keep
coming
back
to
that
I
want
to
make
my
community
safe,
and
is
this
something
that
will
make
us
safer
or
do
we
know.
W
Good
evening
I'm
Chris
Chong
police
chief,
so
the
data
I
don't
have
that
data.
There's
no
of
the
statistics
statistics
that
we
have
there's
no
causal
relationship
between
a
gun,
store
and
a
nearby
gun
crime.
A
Thank
you
any
remaining
questions
or
comments,
so,
unfortunately,
the
the
two
questions
that
staff
said
would
be
most
helpful
to
them
are
the
two
most
muddied
so
we're
going
to
go
through
and
take
a
straw
poll
on
each
one
of
these
items
and
if
there
are
other
things
you
would
like
to
provide
the
staff
that
we
can
consider
additional
straw
polls
as
well.
But
the
first
is
this:
one:
had
strong
majority
support,
but
we'll
just
for
the
formality
of
it.
The
first
one
is
the
expanding
locations.
Where
Firearms
are
prohibited.
A
Do
we
want
to
provide
staff
that
direction
to
explore?
Let's
raise
hands,
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
so
yeah,
so
strong
majority
support
for
that.
Thank
you.
The
next
one
is
license
requirements
for
firearm
dealers
or
provide
that
direction.
The
staff
one
two
three
four
five,
so
yes,
strong
majority
support
and
then
restricting
home
occupation
is
the
next
question.
A
Yes,
so
seven
months
also
unanimous
and
then
restricting
distance
from
schools,
parks
and
daycares
is
the
next
question
one
two
three
four
five,
that's
also
unanimous
I'm
going
to
start
with
500
and
then
we'll
go
to
250.
If
there
isn't
support
for
500..
So
now
the
next
one
is
the
distance.
Do
members
of
the
council
support
500
feet.
S
So
sorry,
this
is
where
I
feel
like
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
the
maps,
but
do
we
really
want
to
get
into
that
level
of
detail
at
this
study
session?.
A
S
But
I
feel
like
I
need
more
information,
so
I
I
would
need
to
see
the
maps
if
we're
going
to
go
to
this
level
of
detail.
B
How
about
if
we
come
back
with
legislation
250
feet,
with
the
caveat
that
you
can
amend
on
the
floor,
to
increase
the
distance
and
we
can
and
we
can
come
back
with
Maps,
so
you
can
see
exactly
what
it
looks
like
you
know.
We
can
start
at
250
feet
and
you
know
knowing
that
that
that
would
be
an
allowable
Amendment
on
the
floor.
So
you
know
a
motion
to
adopt
with
the
amendment
of
a
distance
is
something
that
you
could
do
without
violating
any
broad
act
noticing
requirements.
A
E
A
My
I
I
had
interpreted
the
city
attorney's
suggesting
to
include
also
allowing
exploration
to
500
feet
as
well,
so
it
was
sort
of
both
and
but
let's
just
do
a
quick
show
of
him.
I.
A
Is
there
support
for
that
suggestion
of
the
hybrid
between
the
city,
attorney's
recommendation
to
come
back
with
250
and
then
also
have
a
500
foot
option?
A
One
two
three
four
five
so
looks
like
there's
majority
of
support
for
that.
So
both
options
will
be
presented
to
the
council
when,
when
staff
returns
and
then
the
last
question
is
going
to
be
the
most
challenging
I
think
I
Heard,
three
council
members
supporting
amortization
and
then
I
think
three
one
supporting
grandfathering
and
then
two
interested
in
exploring
both
options.
I,
don't
think
we're
gonna
get
a
majority
for
any
of
them,
but
we
can
try.
A
Q
Mayor
if
I
may,
it
may
be
helpful
to
also
I
don't
know
it
may
be
helpful
to
break
it
up
into
whether
home
occupations
should
be
amortized
or
grandfathered
and
then
separately
the
storefront
businesses.
So
maybe
that
might
be
an
easier
way
to
to
get
to
a
majority
support.
K
A
Think
it
was
based
on
the
treatment
of
the
type
of
on
the
the
business
itself,
but
we
can.
We
can
provide
that
granular
detail.
If
it's
helpful,
we
could
also
maybe
I'm
doing
myself
a
disservice
and
doing
this,
but
maybe
we
just
asked
all
of
the
questions.
Is
there
support
to
direct
staff
to
explore
it
formally
amortization?
There
might
be
four
votes
for
that.
One
two
three.
There
was
not
support
for
that
and
then,
if
there's
support
to
only
return
with
a
grandfathering
option.
A
B
B
If
you
are
amortizing,
we
are
drafting
an
ordinance
that
provides
amortization
provisions
and
sunsets
and
requirements,
and
things
like
that.
It
goes
in
the
ordinance
if
we
are
grandfathering,
it's
a
much
shorter
ordinance
that
that
grandfather's
in
so
are
you
literally
asking
us
to
bring
back
it's
almost
as
if
we're
going
to
be
bringing
back
four
different
ordinances,
because
one
is
going
to
have
250
feet
in
it
one's
going
to
have
500
feet
in
it
both
of
those
we
have
to
bring
back
versions
that
have
amortization
and
grandfathering.
B
B
We
could
come
back
with
another
study
session
and
provide
a
lot
more
information.
If
that's
what
you
want,
but
I
think
in
order
to
draft,
we
need
to
know
what
you
want
to
do
unless
you
want
us
to
really
literally
bring
back
several
pieces
of
legislation
for
you
to
look
at
and
that's
just
a
lot
of
work
to
write,
different
ordinances.
B
U
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
clarifying
it's
in
part.
Why
I
was
surprised
that
you
were
seeking
the
granularity
of
detail
right
now
when
we
we
haven't
really
had.
You
know
a
great
deal
of
analysis
about
the
impact
of
each
of
these
councilmember
command.
V
Great,
thank
you
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
suggestion,
mayor
kind
of
given
all
of
the
discussion
and
the
feedback
recently
from
the
city
attorney,
which
is
I
I.
Do
think
that
perhaps
this
needs
to
come
back
to
us
as
a
study
session.
I
think
that
we
are
my.
V
We
are
a
council
that
likes
options
and
we
and
we
like
to
to
weigh
those
options
and
so
I
think
whether
it's
the
250
or
the
500
feet,
whether
it's
to
amortize
or
to
grandfather,
I,
think
those
are
big
decisions
that
the
council
needs
to
make
and
if
staff
is
saying
that
they
would
need
to
create
four
different.
You
know
ordinances,
then
perhaps
that
means
that
we
need
this
needs
to
come
back,
and
so
my
my
request
to
staff
would
be.
V
I
know
it's
a
study
session,
but
my
suggestion
would
be
that
we
need
to
bring
back
those
two
items
in
particular
where
we
have
had
a
lot
of
discussion,
bring
them
back.
So
can
we
get
clarification
on
on
if
that
needs
to
be
a
straw
poll
or
straw
motion
or
if
I
can
make
that
I
think
that'd
be
helpful.
A
I'm
certainly
happy
to
to
consider
a
straw
poll.
Let's,
let's
take
a
few
more
comments,
because
if
everyone's
on
board
with
a
study
session,
then
that's
great,
we
won't
need
to
to
focus
too
much.
But
if
there's
a
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
to
provide,
if
there
are
four
votes
for
a
particular
direction,
then
that
Skips,
a
step
I
think
step
was-
was
hoping
to
skip
vice
mayor
Hicks.
G
G
Don't
feel
that
at
this
point,
I
have
enough
information,
you
know
so,
for
example,
for
distances
I
don't
know
are
all
do
all
the
other
cities
cited
all
use,
one
particular
distance
I,
don't
have
that
information
or
have
cities
that
have
gone
for
500
feet,
had
illegal
challenges,
I
really
don't
have
any
basis
for
making
these
decisions
and
I
I.
Think
what
I'm
asking
for
is
just
the
memo
that
that
was
spoken
about
earlier.
D
G
D
G
Fully
blown
ordinance
or
with
all
these
options
that
we're
not
deciding
out
for
different
ordinances
fully,
but
that
would
flesh
out
a
little
little
more.
You
know
you
showed
us,
the
other
cities
that
have
some
sort
of
these,
that
have
these
gun
regulations
flesh
out
a
little
more.
What
are
their
distances?
Do
they
grandfather
or
amortize,
and
how
do
they
do
that?
G
I
thought
that's
what
the
memo
was
going
to
have
and
that
we
were
going
to
use
that
for
our
work
plan
in
February.
So
if
that's
not
the.
I
I
couldn't
have
said
it
better
myself,
I
thought.
I
Well,
we
were
trying
to
give
direction
for
was
a
memo
and
that
the
information
in
the
memo
would
help
direct
US
during
the
goal
setting
and
the
work
plan
development
so
that
that's
what
I
I
think
we
we
should
be
talking
about
here,
I
think
it's
premature
to
give
the
you
know
the
specific
Direction
about
what
should
be
in
the
the
ordinances
if,
if
they
are
to
follow,
because
we
just
don't
know
enough
about
it
yet
and
and
I
also
do
think
that
another
thing
I
want
to
be
included
in
our
direction
is
the
desire
to
work
with
other
communities
in
the
in
the
county.
X
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
see,
the
City
attorney
has
her
hand
raised
so
I'll
I'll
defer
to
her.
If
she
wants
to
clarify
something
and
then
I'll
follow
up
based
on
what
she
says.
Thank.
B
Thank
you,
so
I
did
want
to
provide
some
clarification.
Memo
that
I
talked
about
bringing
back
was
on
timing.
B
You
know
direction
today
the
memo
was
going
to
advise
you
on
what
we
had
figured
out
with
regard
to
you
know
your
distances
and
your
amortization
and
what
needed
to
be
done
and
when
we
believed
we
could
we
could
get
the
legislation
back
so,
but
what
I'm
hearing
is
you
need
us
to
hone
in
on
providing
more
information
with
regard
to
distances,
more
information
about
amortization,
and
you
want
specific
details
with
regard
to
what
the
surrounding
cities
do
to
find
out.
If
we
are
consistent
or
inconsistent,
we
can
definitely
do
that.
X
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
City
attorney,
so
that's
what
I
was
going
to
recommend
to
the
council
that
we're
talking
about
a
memo,
but
what
I'm
hearing
sounds
more
like
a
study
session
that
we
can
iron
out
some
of
these
various
options
for
Council
and
then
you
all
can
give
direction
on
on
how
you
wish
to
move
forward.
X
That
way,
it's
very
clear
for
both
Council
and
staff,
on
what
the
City
attorney
is
actually
going
to
be
bringing
back
to
you
and
then
they
can
also
have
more
time
to
do
all
this
research.
That
will
be
helpful
in
your
decision
making.
So
I
I
recommend
that
as
well
I
think
that
will
be
cleaner
for
you
all.
A
Thank
you.
This
is
back
to
council
member
Cane's
suggestion
I
I.
Think
one
thing
that
would
help
me
is
understanding.
There's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
just
in
preparing
the
analysis
for
the
council
is
Staff
proposing
to
have
the
council
determine
whether
we
want
to
do
this
study
session
as
part
of
our
goal,
setting
process
weighing
against
other
work
plan
items
or
is
Staff
proposing
that
we
have
this
study
session
outside
of
the
goal
setting
process.
B
E
So,
under
that
scenario
in
February
we
would
decide
if
we
want
to
have
a
study
session
and
then
the
study
session
would
be
prepared
and
then
we
would
have
the
study
session
and
then
out
of
the
study
session.
Something
that
would
be
the
product
in
terms
of
ordinances
would
come
out
of
that,
but
that
wouldn't
be
until
next
spring
right.
E
Yeah,
so
I
I
think
I'd
be
more
comfortable
with
a
memo
of
some
kind
sooner
so
that
we
can
show
the
community
that
we
are
actually
serious
about
doing
something.
E
You
know:
I
I
sent
a
letter
to
all
the
city
councils
on
the
peninsula
back
about
five
years
ago,
and
and
Mountain
View
was
the
only
one
that
responded
and
picked
out
a
couple
things
to
do
from
it,
and
we
councilmember
ABI,
Koga
and
I
both
participated
in
the
county
process
about
the
cost
of
firearm
firearms
in
the
community
and
so
I
think
that
we're
just
moving
at
a
really
glacial
pace
that
does
not
represent
where
our
surrounding
communities
are
Sunnyvale
place
to
measure
on
the
ballot,
and
it
was
approved
by
just
over
70
percent
of
the
voters
to
move
forward
on
some
very
ambitious
measures
and
and
they're
doing
more
now,
Palo
Alto,
we
know,
has
had
measures
for
more
than
10
years
and
I
I
just
think
at
some
point.
E
We
need
to
say
to
the
community.
We
either
value
this
or
we
don't
and
I
I
think
that.
E
You
know
ample
time
has
been
out
there
to
to
get
this
thing
started
and
to
get
it
rolling
down.
The
hill
and
I
I
think
that
waiting
to
see
if
it's
prioritized
in
goal
setting
before
we
have
a
study
session
is,
is
just
really
thin
soup.
It's
it's
way
too
weak
and-
and
we
need
to
do
more
of
that
and
and
I
understand
the
the
voices
that
are
out
there
in
the
community.
E
That
say:
will
this
really
make
a
difference
for
us,
because
we
haven't
had
a
problem
before
and
frankly,
VTA
didn't
have
a
problem
before
Newtown
didn't
have
a
problem
before
the
Uvalde
Texas
didn't
have
a
problem
before
and
it
at
some
point.
I
think
we
have
to
do
do
more
than
we're
doing,
and
in
this
timeline,
that's
being
mentioned
is
is
just
simply
too
long.
A
I
think
there
are
three
options.
Essentially
one
is.
We
can
provide
the
direction
that
staff
is
seeking
based
on
the
presentation
and
if
there's
majority
support
for
the
various
options
here
that
really
expedites
the
process.
We
don't
want
to
do
that.
Then
we
have
to
have
a
study
session
and
either
that
could
be
done
in
the
context
of
goal,
setting
along
consideration
with
everything
else
or
it
could
be
done
outside
of
goal
setting,
which
means
there's
a
different
impact.
Something
is
going
to
have
to
be
deprioritized.
A
We
don't
know
what
that
will
be
yet,
but
that's
the
only
way
to
make
possible
the
the
step
to
expedite
the
study
session
to
give
us
more
time
to
provide
this
input.
So
our
options
are
provided.
The
input
now
have
a
study
session
sooner
and
then
staff
will
have
to
share
with
us
what
gets
postponed
or
do
it
as
part
of
goal.
Setting
council
member
Robbie
Koga.
B
That
I
just
want
to
just
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
fine,
if
you
prefer
to
have
a
study
session
outside
of
goal
setting
I
just
didn't,
want
to
make
it
too
aggressive.
B
It's
not
something
that,
given
the
amount
of
work
that
we're
going
to
need
to
do
we're
going
to
need
to
do
a
lot
of
upfront
research
on
amortization,
that's
significant
research,
we're
we're
literally
doing
two
paths
now
and
so
I'm
fine
with
having
a
guaranteed
study
session
outside
of
goal
setting
I
just
don't
know
if
we
can
get
back
to
you
in
advance
of
goal
setting
for
you
to
to
goal
set
the
legislation
itself.
That's
the
concern
that
I
had
but
I'm
fine
with
with
a
guaranteed
study
session.
D
Thank
you
Mary.
Yes,
so
my
original
assumption
with
this
when
we
first
discussed
it
was
that
today
we
would
have
a
discussion
on
where
this
goes
in
terms
of
our
priorities
and
being
able
to
way
what
else
we
would
have
to
look
at
removing
on
our
current
work
plan
to
make
this
happen.
So
if
we're
doing
the
study
session
and
then
kicking
it
to
February,
I,
don't
really
see
any
difference.
Honestly
and
yeah
I
I
would
say
that
wasn't
my
intent.
D
My
intent
was
to
try
to
try
to
expedite
this
more
quickly
and
I.
Think
councilmember,
Lieber
and
I
are
in
agreement
on
that.
So
I
mean
and
I
feel
that
the
study
session
is
fine,
but
it
sounds
like
we
have
two,
maybe
two
questions
to
answer
and
you
know
we've
had
study
sessions
with
like
one
or
two
items
and
afterwards
like
fun
without
thinking.
Why
did
we
have
that
study
session?
So,
if
there's
a
way
to
exit
with
a
memo
to
expedite
you
know,
I
would
be
I.
D
Would
much
prefer
to
do
that.
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I
I,
know
our
agendas
are
already
packed
I.
Don't
honestly
think
we
can
get
to
those
as
a
City
attorney
said
before
February,
so
at
least
a
memo
to
give
us
the
options
would
be
helpful
so
that
I
guess
at
that
point,
if
we
have
to
make
decision
as
to
where
it
falls
on
our
list
of
priorities,
we'll
have
all
the
information
there,
but
you
know
Frankly
Speaking.
D
If
you
ask
the
question
I
think
I've
already
answered
it,
so
I'm
ready
to
make
the
decision
right
now,
I
think
we
did
have
four
for
500
feet.
So
to
me
that
one
was
answered,
I
think.
The
only
remaining
question,
then,
is
the
amortization
or
grandfathering
issue
so
I,
just
don't
really
feel
like.
We
need
a
full
study
session
for
one
item,
but
that's
just
me.
A
Thank
you
and
I'm
happy
to
to
re-pull
some
of
these,
because
if,
if
there
is
majority
support
for
for
some
of
the
parameters
that
staff
is
seeking
Direction
on,
then
we
don't
need
an
additional
study
session
or
additional
work
on
analysis,
because
that
will
have
gotten
the
direction
that
they
need,
but
do
that
I
need
four
votes,
so
I
I
think
then
what
I
can
do
if
there
are
no
other?
No
other
questions
or
comments.
A
I
think
what
I'll
probably
need
to
do
is
seek
four
votes
for
which
of
the
three
processes
the
council
wants
to
go
down
so
I
think
the
first
one
is
because
we've
heard
interest
in
a
study
session
that
is
outside
of
the
goal
setting
process
in
order
for
it
to
occur.
Temporally
sooner
with
the
remaining
questions
that
we
haven't
answered,
I'll
check
to
see.
Is
there
support
for
doing
that?
I
Hi
isn't
a
memo
before
the
a
memo
before
the
goal,
setting
and
study
session
also
an
option.
A
So
the
work
is
the
analysis
about
various
impacts
for
different
distances,
grandfathering
versus
amortization,
the
legal
justification
for
amortization
over
you
know
a
period
of
time.
They
can
certainly
do
that
in
a
memo
form,
it's
just
additional
work.
A
B
B
Clarify
just
for
clarification,
we
would
be
doing
an
extensive
memo
for
the
study
session
to
have
us
do
a
memo
before
the
memo
before
the
study
session
is
asking
us
to
write
two
memos,
our
goal
now.
My
goal
now,
based
on
what
I'm
hearing
is
to
get
you
a
very
extensive
memo
that
does
all
of
the
necessary
research
with
regard
to
all
of
the
you
know:
amortization
grandfathering:
where
are
all
the
existing
businesses?
How
are
you
going
to
affect
them?
B
If
you
go
250
feet
550
feet
a
thousand
feet
and
we
are
also
going
to
have
an
extensive
memo
that
tells
you
exactly
what
every
bordering
City
around
us
does,
so
that
you
know
whether
or
not
you're
consistent
I
prefer
to
do
that.
One
memo
one
time
and
then,
and
that
would
be
hopefully
precede
the
study
session
at
which
you
could
make
a
decision.
B
I,
just
don't
doing
two
memos
doing
a
memo.
We
can't
get
the
answers
from
you
without
you
know.
Having
so
I'd
like
to
I'm
clear
on
what
you
need
and
I'd
really
like
to
do
that
extensive
work,
one
time
and
come
to
you
in
a
study
session
and
get
the
guidance
rather
than
a
second
memo,
I
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out.
There.
I
Thanks
for
that
clarification,
I
I
was
I
was
a
little
confused.
There.
K
T
R
G
A
full
study
session-
I-
just
don't
have
it
I'm,
not
well
versed
in
this
and
don't
have
you
know
any
benchmarks
at
all.
At
this
point,
foreign.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
still
have
the
same
fundamental
problem.
We
can
either
provide
the
direction
tonight
or
we
can
ask
staff
to
do
additional
analysis
and
then
we
have
to
decide
if
they
do
additional
analysis.
Do
we
want
them
to
do
it
sooner
and
then
push
existing
work
out
or
do
we
want
to
do
it
in
the
context
of
the
goal
setting
Cycle
City,
Manager
McCarthy.
X
Thank
you,
mayor
can
I
ask
for
a
short
five-minute
break.
Just
so,
I
can
have
a
discussion
with
the
city
attorney
on
coming
back
with
the
the
best
path
forward
for
Council
I'm
hearing
your
interest,
certainly
in
the
expediency
of
this
and
I'm.
Also
hearing
the
city.
Attorney's
concerns
just
about
workloads.
So
if
I
could
just
have
a
few
minutes
to
talk
with
her,
come
back
to
council
recommend
a
path
forward
that
you
all
are
comfortable
with
and
that
she's
comfortable
with
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
K
X
Mayor,
thank
you,
so
here
is
where
we
landed
so
right
now.
This
item
is
already
on
your
work
plan.
The
current
work
plan
the
gun
safety.
This
is
just
a
continuation
of
what
council
decided
prior
to
the
summer
break
and
we're
bringing
back
more
options
for
Council
to
to
determine
how
you
want
to
further
the
item.
That's
already
on
your
work
plan,
so
the
challenge
we
have
is
that
if
we
provide
counsel
with
a
memo,
you
all
cannot
give
direction
via
a
memo.
X
You
can
only
give
direction
via
an
agenda
item,
so
if
the
City
attorney
was
to
come
back
with
a
memo
outlining
all
of
the
options
and
outlining
what
all
the
other
cities
have
done,
outlining
the
legislation
outlining
the
250
versus
500
outlining
the
amortization
versus
grandfathering,
you
will
have
decisions
to
make.
So
the
only
way
you
can
make
those
decisions
is
via
an
agenda
item.
So
we
suggest
that
we
don't
put
this
on
the
February
work
plan
in
the
sense
that
we
will
move
this
forward.
X
City
attorney's
office
will
do
this
research
and
the
the
plethora
of
research,
because
what
what
we're
hearing
from
Council
is
that
there
is
interest
in
hearing
about
the
options
hearing
about
what
other
cities
are
doing.
Hearing
about
the
250
versus
500,
seeing
the
maps
all
of
that
stuff
will
then
come
to
you
all
in
the
first
quarter
of
2023
and
then
you
can
give
direction
on
moving
forward
and
then
the
City
attorney
will
bring
back
the
ordinances
that
align
with
the
policy
direction
that
Council
gives.
X
But
we
cannot
get
that
feedback
from
you
all
via
a
memo.
So
we
need
to
come
to
you
all
with
a
study
session.
So
that's
that's
where
we
landed,
that's
our!
That
is
our
best
recommendation
for
you
all
and
and
how
to
move
forward
and
I
think.
Hopefully
that
will
get
at
your
desire
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
also
give
the
city
attorney's
office
to
time
to
do
a
lot
of
This
research,
because
it
is
a
lot
of
work
that
they
need
to
do
so
I
think.
X
E
Here
well,
I'm
hearing
I'm
here,
expeditious
thing
possible
to
so
I
would
agree
with
it
on
that
basis
and
if
the
votes
that
we've
already
taken
can
be
conveyed
to
staff
I
know
that
you
know
Stanford
right
here
to
hear
it
so
can
hear
where
the
the
interest
lies
and
in
terms
of
the
various
options,
then
we
wouldn't
have
wasted
our
time
tonight
in.
In
terms
of
of
that,.
A
Much
thank
you.
Any
remaining
questions
or
comments,
keep
in
mind.
We
don't
have
to
have
the
study
session
if
there
are
four
votes
for
the
outstanding
questions,
but
if
no
one
would
like
to
change
their
vote,
then
let's
take
a
quick
straw
full
on
the
staff
recommended
approach,
which
is
to
have
a
study
session
in
the
first
quarter
of
next
year
and
at
some
later
date
we'll
find
out
what
items
what
work
gets
pushed
out,
because
now
this
is
priority.
Council
member.
D
A
There
were
two
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
The
first
is
to
propose
a
distance
for
restricting
home
occupation
and
I.
Believe
the
council
also
is
interested
in
brick
and
mortar
firearms.
Dealers
from
schools,
parks
and
daycares,
two
options
for
250
feet
and
500
feet.
City
attorney,
Logan
I
see
you've
unmuted
yourself.
B
A
Okay,
I'll
start
with
500.
If
there's
not
support
for
500,
then
we'll
try
250..
So
the
first
distance
proposed
is
500
feet
restriction,
raise
hands
one
two
three
and
then
is
there:
support
for
250
feet,
one
two:
three:
okay,
great
strong
support
for
250
feet,
so
that
answers
one
question
next
question
is
amortization
versus
grandfathering,
so
we'll
we'll
there
was
closer
to
majority
support
for
amortization
than
grandfathering.
So
we'll
try
that
so,
because
the
council
support
exploring
amortization
of
existing
businesses.
K
A
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Diana
and
City
attorney
Logan
councilmember
Lieber
last
thought,
mayor.
E
E
It
is
really
great
to
hear
that
we're
we're
on
the
lead
in
terms
of
that
and
also
the
efforts
that
the
chief
and
PD
have
put
into
gun
buybacks
and
to
accepting
firearms
that
people
just
want
to
get
out
of
their
homes.
They've
done
great
work
on
that
and
kudos
to
them.
For
that,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
we'll
conclude
this
item
and
move
on
to
7.1
public
hearing
on
downtown
business
Improvement
areas,
and
if
someone
can
help
me
find
economic,
Vitality
manager,
John
Lang,
to
promote
into
the
panel.
A
Welcome
John
and
feel
free
to
begin
the
presentation
whenever
you're
ready.
Y
Good
evening
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
community
of
Mountain
View
John
Lang
economic
Vitality
manager,
I
only
have
a
brief
set
of
comments
for
you.
This
evening
tonight
we
are
holding
the
first
public
Hearing
in
the
long-standing
annual
renewal
renewal
process
for
the
downtown
business
Improvement
areas.
Y
Y
The
Bia
assessments
generated
from
both
areas
are
used
for
very
specific
programming
and
services
to
support
the
downtown
business
community.
Y
In
the
annual
report
that
was
included
in
the
packet
prepared
by
the
Mountain
View
Chamber
of
Commerce
estimated
the
2023
projected
revenues
from
both
of
the
areas
to
be
approximately
40
675
dollars
based
upon
the
businesses
that
are
there
today
tonight,
city
council
may
discuss
the
bias
and
receive
any
comments
or
input
from
members
of
the
public.
There
are
three
recommendations
before
council
tonight
approve
the
Mountain
View
Chamber
of
Commerce
annual
report
for
2022
and
then
adopt
resolutions
declaring
intention
to
Levy
an
assessment
in
bia's
number
one
and
number
two
for
calendar
year
2023.
I
Yes,
I
just
like
to
raise
the
question
that
I
raised
in
the
in
the
in
our
Council
questions
and,
and
that
is
about
the
concept
of
a
vacancy
tax
and
whether
or
not
the
Bia
fees
would
be
a
methodology
for
vacancy
tax
and
so
I
wondered.
If
you
could
explain,
tell
us
about
that.
Mr
Lang.
Y
Absolutely
so
one
just
know
that
the
Bia
fees
are
meant
to
help
the
full
District,
and
so
that's
really
what
the
assessment
is
intended
to
do
is
drive
interest
in
the
downtown,
as
it
relates
to
a
vacancy
tax.
Typically,
that's
implemented
on
a
particular
business
or
businesses
or
empty
storefronts,
and,
as
the
council
directed
staff,
to
look
at
this
through
the
lens
of
the
economic
Vitality
strategy,
we
do
intend
to
bring
back
through
that
work.
A
a
program
for
Council
consideration
related
to
either
a
vacancy
tax,
a
vacancy
registry.
Y
I
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up,
because
I
think
when
we
all
look
at
downtown.
One
of
the
major
issues
is,
you
know,
is
that
the
vacancies
we
have
on
these
storefronts.
I
So
thank
you
for
sharing
that
information
to
us,
and
we
are
I
mean
I
certainly
am
and
I
would
imagine
that
my
fellow
council
members
are
are
really
interested
in
what
we
can
do
to
perk
up
the
downtown
and
getting
rid
of
vacancies,
or
you
know
covering
those
windows
with
detracted
posters
or
displays,
or
something
would
upgrade
the
downtown.
I
So
that's
why
I
I
saw
there
being
a
Nexus
between
the
the
business
impact
fee,
because
the
you
know
the
general
appearance
of
the
entire
downtown
would
be
approved
and
and
I
think
that
was
this
aesthetic
things
are.
You
know
they're
important,
so
that
that's
why
you
know
I
wanted
to
to
bring
that
up.
E
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
I,
had
a
question.
I
saw
the
the
overall
amount
that
the
revenue
is
for
the
the
two
bias
I
was
wondering
how
much
the
average
storefront
is
is
paying,
and
it
said
in
the
report
that
the
city
assists
or
requires
that
the
renewal
of
the
business
licenses
take
take
place.
The
assessments
are
paid
at
that
time
and
our
are
most
of
the
businesses
paying
the
assessments
and
how
much
do
they
pay,
and
what
about
the
the
high
number
of
vacant
spaces
that
we
have?
Y
Very
good
question
so
recognizing
there
are
two
different
bias
and
they're
structured
a
little
bit
differently.
So
at
a
high
level,
Bia
number
one
classifies
businesses
into
four
categories
and
the
range
of
fees
that
they
pay
annually
in
addition
to
the
business
license
fee.
So
this
is
just
the
Bia
fee
range
from
fifty
dollars
to
200
annually,
so
the
lowest
is
office,
they
pay
fifty
dollars
and
the
highest
would
be
a
restaurant
use,
which
is
two
hundred
dollars.
Y
That's
in
Bia
number
one
and
so
a
vacant
space
which
does
not
have
a
business
in
it.
There
would
be
no
Bia
fee
collected
because
there's
no
business.
This
is
on
the
bit.
This
is
an
attachment
to
the
business
license
fee.
Y
So
vacant
spaces
are
not
contributing
to
this,
because
it's
a
there
is
no
business
there
on
Bia
number,
two.
It's
based
upon
square
footage
and
there's
three
ranges
of
square
footage.
So
the
square
footage
rates
at
the
low
end
is
25
that
a
business
would
pay
at
the
high
end
with
the
most
space
it
would
be
up
to
175
dollars
and
that
detail
is
actually
broken
down
in
the
Mountain
View
chamber
report.
That
is
one
of
the
attachments,
so
it
does
break
down
those
fees
in
the
categories.
E
And
so,
for
example,
through
the
mayor,
if
I
may
ask
another
question,
say:
booksync
has
has
multiple
locations
and
one
of
them
thank
God
is
here
in
Castro
Street,
and
so
then
a
commercial
landlord
would
also
have
multiple
locations
throughout
the
valley,
maybe
throughout
the
state,
throughout
the
country,
and
so
they
they
pay
nothing,
even
though
they
they
are
a
business
that
that
owns
that
asset
or
controls
that
asset,
but
but
they
are
paying
nothing
because
they're
they're
holding
it
vacant
is
that
the
situation
right
now.
Y
So
yeah
so,
for
instance,
in
that
example,
Books
Inc
would
be
paying
a
business
license
as
well
as
the
Bia
fee.
Now
that
property,
if
there
was
no
tenant
in
there,
they
would
not
be.
There
is
no
business
license
for
no
business
and
there
is
no
Bia
fee
now
if
the
property
owner
does
register
as
a
commercial
landlord,
there
is
a
business
license,
that's
collected
fee,
but
there
is
no
Bia
fee
collected
with
that.
So
as
a
commercial
property
owner
in
renting
space,
that's
your
business!
E
And
so
to
change
that
it
would
have
to
be
a
vote
of
those
participating
businesses
within
the
district
that
that
would
vote
to
change
the
rules
of
the
the
Bia
and
include
landlords,
whether
absentee
or
or
not.
Y
So
there's
we
would
in
order
to
make
this
change
and
effectuate
this
change.
We
would
actually
have
to
come
back
to
council
at
a
separate
time
to
do
this.
We've
as
part
of
adopting
the
report
from
the
chamber.
It's
outlining
this
is
the
fee,
that's
going
to
be
charged,
and
this
is
how
we
noticed
it.
So
if
this
is
something
that
Council
would
like
us
to
consider,
it
would
be
staff's
recommendation
to
have
us
come
back
next
year
in
that
in
that
cycle.
Y
Y
E
Okay
and
I
I
think
it's
very
good
for
Council
to
just
know
that
is,
as
council
member
Showalter
pointed
out.
You
know
those
individuals
or
corporations
or
Partnerships
or
whatever
they
are,
that
are
holding
a
large
amount
of
real
estate
vacant
in
the
downtown,
are,
are
paying
nothing
towards
these
business
areas.
A
F
Yes,
we
we
would
recommend
the
council
proceed
with
the
recommendation
at
this
point,
so
we
can
move
forward
on
the
assessments
and
the
chambers
program,
but
as
as
the
economic
development
manager,
John,
Lang,
suggested
and
I
would
I
would
even
amend
that
to
say,
there's
a
there's,
a
plethora
of
programs
the
council
might
be
interested
in
for
businesses
in
the
downtown,
including
the
issue
of
vacancy
I,
would
suggest.
F
We
address
that
in
the
study
session
for
the
economic
Vitality
strategy,
and
then
we
can
develop
the
funding
plan
that
will
give
the
chamber
some
some
room
to
inform
their.
You
know
the
businesses
that
they
represent,
including
the
downtown
businesses,
and
we
can
create
a
plan
forward
as
part
of
the
economic
Vitality
strategy.
G
Well,
I
think
my
comment,
overlaps
with
with
what
Mr
vaskova
has
just
said,
but
I
think
to
some
degree
I.
You
know
I
like
that.
We're
paying
attention
to
vacancies
and
think
they're,
important
I
think
to
some
degree
we're
confusing
two
different
things:
the
vacancy
tax
and
a
contribution
to
the
Bia
they're
they're,
not
necessarily
the
same
thing
and
I'm,
not
even
sure
that
a
contribution
to
the
Bia
as
a
solution
to
vacancy
is
really
the
best.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We
are
moving
into
comments
and
I
haven't
taken
public
comment.
Yet
so,
let's,
let's
stick
to
questions.
Are
there
any
remaining
questions
about
this
item?
A
I,
don't
think
RT
has
a
question
I'm
going
to
presume
that's
a
hand
from
another
time.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
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click
the
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hand,
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or
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speaking
I've
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D
Thank
you,
mayor
I'm,
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
the
motion
as
I
see
handset
all
right.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
So
I
will
make
the
motion
to
adopt
a
approving
the
Mountain
View
Chamber
of
Commerce
annual
report
and
adopting
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
declaring
its
intent
to
Levy
an
annual
assessment
for
calendar
year
2023
for
the
Downtown
Mountain
View
business
Improvement
area
number
one
to
be
read
entitled
only
for
the
reading
waived
and
set
a
public
hearing
date
of
November
1522
2022
and
adopt
the
resolution
of
the
city
council.
D
I
Well,
I
would
just
like
to
comment
I
I'm,
going
to
be
supportive
of
the
motion,
but
I'm
also
very
supportive
of
what
RT
suggested.
I
I
do
think
that
this
vacancy
issue
is
is
really
a
big
deal
for
our
community
and
that's
why
I
brought
it
up.
I
mean
it
seems
like
we're
talking
about
downtown.
Maybe
it's!
I
Maybe
this
isn't
the
exact
way
to
deal
with
it,
but
I
do
think
that
we,
you
know
we
we
really
need
to
get
on
top
of
this
problem
and
I
know
that
it's
been
brewing
for
a
long
time,
but
it's
it's
gotten
decidedly
worse
in
the
last
couple
of
years
and
I'm
I'm
quite
sure
that
there
are
things
that
we
could
do.
That
would
make
a
difference
so
understanding
from
the
staff.
What
those
things
are
you
know?
That's
really,
that
would
be
really
welcome
knowledge.
I
So
thank
you
for
suggesting
to
include
that
and
I
would
just
really
strongly
support
that.
You
know
that
creativity
and
sharing
of
of
the
knowledge
you
have
thanks.
K
A
A
Therefore,
this
is
the
last
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
submit
written
protests
and
written
claims
related
to
the
establishment
of
The
Pedestrian
Mall
written
protests
and
claims
must
be
delivered
to
City
Hall
before
the
public
hearing
hearing
is
opened,
any
written
protesting
or
claims
submitted
after
the
hearing
is
opened
will
not
be
accepted
or
considered
and
I
believe
all
of
the
staff
who
are
participating
are
being
added
one
other
thing:
this
discussion
that's
fairly
narrowly
stoked.
There
may
be
interest
in
design
standards
and
guidelines
and
things
of
that
nature.
A
There
is
an
ad
hoc
subcommittee
that
is
exploring
many
of
those
questions
and
there
will
be
no
final
decisions
about
design
standards
or
guidelines.
Tonight,
let's
see
Transportation
planner
Aruna
baduna
will
present
the
item
whenever
you're
ready.
Z
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members.
I
am
Transportation
planner
before
you
tonight,
for
your
consideration
and
potential
approval
are
actions
that
will
establish
the
Castro
Street
pedestrian
walls
between
East
leg
of
West,
Avalon,
Avenue
and
California
Street
permanently.
Closing
these
blocks
to
vehicular
traffic.
Z
The
council
took
the
first
step
in
the
1960
Pedestrian
Mall
law
process
by
adopting
a
resolution
of
intent
on
June
28th
of
this
year.
At
tonight's
meeting
we
are
in
the
Second
Step,
which
involves
holding
a
public
hearing
for
the
establishment
of
pedestrian
malls
and
adopting
resolutions
and
introducing
introducing
an
ordinance
after
an
ordinance
is
adopted
to
establish
The
Pedestrian
walls.
There
will
be
substantial
staff
work
and
Council
approvals
in
2023
and
24
to
create
an
interim
Pedestrian
Mall.
Z
This
interim
Pedestrian
Mall
would
be
in
place
until
a
permanent
Pedestrian
Mall
can
be
funded,
designed
and
constructed
in
the
future.
In
August
of
this
year,
the
mayor
approved
the
formation
of
a
council
at
heart
committee
to
review
and
provide
Direction
on
for
the
interim
Pedestrian.
Mall
staff
will
continue
to
work
closely
with
the
ad
hoc
committee
over
the
next
few
months
on
the
development
of
key
elements
for
The
Pedestrian
Mall,
including
a
functional
and
program
plan,
interim
design
standards
and
guidelines
and
City
infrastructure
improvements.
Z
These
elements
will
be
brought
back
to
the
council
for
approval
in
early
2023,
based
on
the
recommendations
of
the
ad
hoc
committee.
No
council.
Decisions
related
to
these
elements
are
required
tonight
in
order
to
adopt
the
resolution
and
introduce
the
ordinance
to
establish
The
Pedestrian
law
as
specified
in
the
1960
Pedestrian
Mall
law,
property
owners
and
tenants
abetting
the
proposed
pedestrian
malls.
May
protest
or
submit
claims
legal
claims
up
to
the
time
of
the
public
hearing.
Z
If
Property
Owners,
representing
more
than
50
percent
of
Frontage
within
a
proposed
Pedestrian
Mall
block,
submit
written
protests,
a
pedestrian
wall
for
that
block
cannot
be
established
if
any
written
claims
for
damages
are
received
from
Property,
Owners
or
tenants.
The
city
must
resolve
the
claims
before
establishing
The
Pedestrian
malls.
The
process
and
requirements
for
submitting
written
protests
and
claims
were
described
in
the
resolution
of
intent
adopted
by
the
council
in
June.
Z
The
preliminary
cost
estimate
for
implementing
most
of
The
inter-in
Pedestrian
Mall
improvements
is
approximately
1.5
billion
dollars.
Additional
funding
will
be
requested
as
part
of
the
five-year
Capital
Improvement
program
process
in
Spring
of
next
year
for
full
implementation
of
intersection
improvements.
Z
Council
allocated
1.5
million
dollars
in
American
Rescue
plan
at
arpa
funds
for
Castro
Street.
In
the
fiscal
year,
22-23
budget
and
staff
recommends
transferring
These
funds
into
a
new
CIT
project
supply
chain.
Issues
created
by
the
pandemic
continue
to
process,
and
some
of
some
items
to
be
procured
could
take
six
months
or
longer
to
arrive.
A
R
Hello,
my
name
is
Mani
Singh
I'm,
the
owner
of
Dandy's
barber
shop
in
Downtown,
Mountain
View
I
actually
started
my
business
literally
six
months
before
Kobe
hit,
so
I
saw
a
lot
of
changes
as
we
were
growing
and
I
noticed.
R
I
was
talking
to
all
my
patrons
and
customers
all
the
time,
and
they
agree
that
Mountain
View
has
become
very
vibrant
since
the
street
closure
I
also
think
it
has
increased
safety
for
traffic
from
pedestrian
pedestrians,
which
has
helped
save
many
businesses
in
Downtown,
Mountain,
View
people,
love
sitting
walking
outside
sitting
at
cafes
and
doing
people
watching
I
also
suggest
that
we
should
think
of
the
future.
Now
then,
just
thinking
of
a
small
downtown
I
think
we
should
think
of
closing
the
longest
stretch
possible
thinking
about
the
future.
R
Now
we
should
also
allow
signage
for
all
businesses
that
exist
on
that
stretch.
We
should
also
allow
these
businesses
to
use
the
space
and
promote
their
businesses
and
cultural
events,
but
my
concerns
are
that
the
cost
should
not
just
be
passed
on
to
small
businesses.
It
should
be
equally
divided
in
everybody.
The
Bia
cost
I
just
here
in
the
last
one,
was
just
going
to
the
small
business
owners,
but
I
think
it
should
be
passed
on
to
everybody,
including
the
landlords,
because
they
are
also
profiting
from
the
rent.
R
I
also
think
that
City
should
make
much
more
easy
for
all
these
businesses
and
have
less
taxes
imposed
on
these
businesses,
because
kovit
has
already
broke
their
back
and
I
believe
if
you
guys
promote
the
longest
the
stretch,
if
you
guys
go
with
the
longest
stretch
possible,
it
will
bring
a
lot
more
people
and
it'll
generate
a
lot
more
business
for
everybody.
Thank
you.
K
O
So
I'm
here
the
timer's
not
going
down
okay,
great
I'm
here
as
a
Mountain,
View
resident
and
voter-
and
you
know
I
support
the
full
pedestrianization
of
Castro
Street
I
would
agree
with
the
prior
person.
The
longest
possible
is
the
best
you
know
it
makes
the
streets
generally
safer
for
children.
You
know
people
with
disabilities,
mobilize
scooters,
the
elderly
in
general,
people
on
bikes,
pedestrians,
it's
just
overall
safer.
It
also
lessens
car
dependence,
so
the
more
trips
we
can
turn
into
walks
or
bike
rides
the
better
again
that
helps
people
with
disabilities.
O
You
know
who
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
to
a
place
like
that.
Otherwise,
and
it's
basically
one
of
the
things
that
makes
Mountain
View
as
a
city,
a
city.
You
know
it's
a
great
example.
We
could
set
a
great
example
here
in
the
Bay
Area
by
you
know
having
all
these
parks
that
connect
to
it.
It
already
connects
to
those
Parks.
It
already
connects
to
bike
infrastructure
already
connects
to
Caltrain.
O
You've
got
your
Performing
Arts
Center,
the
library
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know
the
city
hall.
So
all
these
trips
between
all
these
great
places
is
just
a
walk
right.
You
could
drive
there
and
then
walk,
but
ideally
you
could
just
bike
there
or
walk
around
the
city,
and
if
we're
really
serious
about
addressing
climate
change
and
making
the
the
world
that
we
have
control
over
here
in
Mountain
View
a
better
place.
O
We
really
need
to
support
measures
that
pedestrianized
trips
to
points
of
sales
and
destinations
that
just
make
things
less
car
dependent,
and
you
know
what
I
think
this
would
help
fix
some
vacancy
issues-
I
walk
around
there
all
the
time
and
if
a
new
place,
popped,
open,
I'd
sure
walk
into
it.
That's
that's
all.
I
got.
A
A
Thank
you
Don.
We
appreciate
that
report.
I
will
now
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
the
item
back
for
Council
deliberation
and
action
and
note
that
a
motion
to
approve
the
recommendation
should
include
reading
the
titles
of
the
resolutions
and
ordinances
and
that
each
item
should
be
considered
by
individual
successive
motions.
D
A
Fantastic
and
if
not
we'll,
do
the
Roll
Call.
C
C
K
D
Thank
you.
I
will
make
a
motion
to
adopt
a
resolution
of
the
city
council,
the
city
of
Mountain
View
pursuant
to
California
streets
and
highways
code,
section
11311-11311
determining
that
pedestrian
malls
on
Caster
Street
between
the
East
leg
of
West,
Dublin
Avenue
and
Villa
Street
Villa,
Street
and
West
Dana
Street
and
West
Dana,
Street
and
California
Street
shall
be
established
to
be
read
entitled
only
for
the
reading
wave.
G
C
K
K
D
Thank
you,
mayor
I
will
make
a
motion
to
introduce
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View
amending
chapter
27
of
the
Mountain
View
city
code,
to
add
article
6,
establishing
pedestrian
malls
on
Castro
Street
between
the
East
leg
of
West,
Evelyn
Avenue
and
Villa
Street
Villa
Street
and
West
Dana
Street
and
West
Dana
Street
and
California
Street
in
the
city
of
Mountain
View
to
be
read
entitled
only
for
the
reading
waived
and
set
a
second
reading
for
October
25th
2022.
I
K
A
A
K
A
I
I'd
just
like
to
share
that
I
attended
the
California
Water
women
conference
in
Santa
Barbara,
and
it
was
it
was
really
an
inspiring
time.
There
were
about
150
participants
and
I.
I
We
heard
all
sorts
of
panels
related
to
the
impact
of
climate
change
on
the
water
supply
and
how
permitting
was
expected
to
change
in
the
next
few
years
and
just
generally
oh
and
a
tremendous
amount
about
the
the
sigma
legislation,
which
is
basically
the
groundwater
management
legislation
which
doesn't
apply
directly
to
Mountain
View,
but
is
a
you
know,
a
huge
Improvement
in
governance
in
the
California
Water
System
sort
of
whole
system,
so
it
was,
it
was
really
an
interesting.
I
E
Thank
you,
mayor
I
I
just
wanted
to
report
that
we
had
a
very
good
meeting
of
the
council
finance
and
investment
review
this
week
and
I
requested
that
we
forward
the
materials
both
from
staff
and
from
the
consultant
to
the
council
overall,
because
they
were
very,
very
helpful
in
getting
a
fuller
picture
of
our
finances
and
and
where
our
investments
are,
and
pursuant
to
that
earlier.
E
In
this
meeting,
Mr
Bruce
England
mentioned
how
glad
he
was
to
see
that
we
had
asked
the
local
agency
investment
fund
to
divest
from
fossil
fuels
and
to
support
environmentally
beneficial,
Investments
and
and
I
wanted
to
report
that
that
was
due
to
council
member
matachek,
who
serves
on
finance
and
investment
review,
bringing
that
up
under
our
overall
investment
policy
and
also
our
finance
director
Jesse
takaha.
E
She
preparing
that
that
letter
and
the
city
clerk
staff
for
sending
it
through
it
gives
all
of
us
an
opportunity
to
go
to
our
nearby
cities
and
to
ask
them
to
get
on
board
and-
and
our
mayor
obviously
was
is-
is
a
Committee
Member
as
well
and
was
supporting
that
and
also
signed
that
letter.
So
it's
a
it's.
E
A
very
positive
thing
that
we
can
do,
and
it
was
due
to
counselor
Mata
checks,
energy
and
investigative
Spirit,
which
we
all
know
that
she
has
to
really
see
that
opportunity
into
ferret
it
out
and
I.
Think
it's
a
great
thing
for
us,
because
our
state
treasurer,
who
serves
on
the
lathe
board
is
very
interested
in
fossil
fuel
divestment,
and
sometimes
it
just
takes
that
little
push
to
get
some
something
that
can
be
very
positive
started.
So
thank
you,
mayor.
S
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
council,
member
Lieber
yeah.
We
did
have
the
meeting
of
the
council
financing
investment
review
committee
meeting.
It's
too
bad.
We
only
have
those
one
time
a
year
because
they're
usually
quite
interesting,
and
we
also
had
a
meeting
of
the
Council
of
policies
and
procedures
committee
and
we
had
a
very
robust
agenda.
S
I
would
say-
and
we
did
not
get
through
all
of
it,
but
what
we
did
get
through
will
come
to
council
over
a
series
of
meetings
and
we
are
going
to
have
to
schedule
another
meeting
of
the
cppc
to
cover
the
one
item
that
we
continued,
and
so
we
need
to
get
that
on
the
calendar
soon
and
then
I
also
participated
in
a
meeting
since
our
last
council
meeting
of
the
Santa
Clara
County,
Airport,
land
use,
commission
and
I.
Don't
have
any
report
out
from
that.
Thank
you.
A
V
Okay,
great
thank
you,
so
the
city
manager
and
I
participated
in
a
joint
jpa
meeting
with
Chuck
the
community
health
awareness
Council
last
week.
Talking
about
the
various
roles
of
the
organization
and
representing
the
city,
that's
my
report
more
to
come
thanks.
I
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
make
an
announcement.
We
are
having
another
neighborhood
meeting
this
Thursday
night
and
this
time
it's
going
to
be
the
mobile
home,
Parks,
neighborhood
group
and
I
just
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
this
was
happening.
It's
really
a
wonderful
time
to
see
how
our
city
staff
just
answers,
questions
on
the
Fly
right
directly
to
our
residents
it
it's.
It
works
really!
Well,
thanks.
E
Sorry
to
double
dip
mayor,
but
it
is
something
that
I
think
is
going
to
be
of
interest
to.
The
council
is
supervisor
Joe
smithian
put
out
information
today
that
the
county
assessor's
office
will
be
working
to
remove
racially
restrictive
covenants
from
deeds
and
in
Santa,
Clara,
County
and
I
know
that
a
number
of
council
members
participated
in
the
recent
information
session
on
that
and
that's
something
that's
very
much
in
our
our
wheelhouse.
E
So
more
information
is
going
to
be
coming
and
it's
a
issue
that
affects
Mountain
View,
fairly
pervasively,
because
the
period
of
time
when
many
of
the
homes
in
our
city
were
were
first
built
and
so
I
think
that's
a
real
win
for
our
County
to
be
able
to
make
it
easy
for
homeowners
to
get
that
racially
restrictive
covenant
removed.
Thank
you.
A
B
Thank
you.
There
are
three
items
on
the
closed
session
agenda
for
this
evening.
Item
10.1
is
a
conference
with
legal
counsel
regarding
a
liability
claim
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54956.9,
the
name
of
the
claimant,
is
Michael
O'rourke
item.
10.2
is
a
conference
with
legal
counsel
regarding
a
liability
claim
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
549-56.9,
the
name
of
the
claimant
is
Laura
Gonzalez
and
item
10.3
is
a
conference
with
legal
counsel
regarding
a
liability
claim
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
549-56.9
and
the
name
of
the
appointment
is
Pedro
Rivera.
A
A
U
A
A
B
I
do
I
have
three
items
to
report
on
this
evening
in
the
closed
session.
In
close
session
this
evening,
city
council
took
final
action
on
item
10.1
on
the
coast
session
agenda
agenda,
which
was
a
conference
with
legal
counsel
regarding
a
liability
claim
filed
by
Michael
O'rourke
against
the
city
of
Mountain,
View
Michael
O'rourke
submitted
a
claim
to
the
city
of
Mountain
View
seeking
10
million
dollars
in
Damages,
based
on
an
alleged
conspiracy,
beginning
in
1997
to
cover
up
his
complaints
against
Mountain
View
police
officers,
Council
voted
with
seven
eyes,
zero,
no's
and
zero
abstentions.