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Recording of the Special Meeting of the Mountain View City Council of November 28, 2022
A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
city
council
special
meeting
to
interview
environmental
Planning
Commission
applicants.
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A
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C
A
Thank
you.
We
will
now
move
to
item
3.1
conduct
an
environmental
Planning,
Commission
applicant
interviews,
but
any
member
of
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A
Proceed
with
the
item.
The
council
will
interview
seven
applicants
for
the
environmental
Planning
Commission
for
the
selection
process
outlined
in
Council
policy.
Number
K2
interviews
will
be
conducted
in
a
panel
format.
Each
applicant
will
receive
the
same
amount
of
time
to
answer
each
question.
The
questions
selected
by
the
council
will
be
asked
in
randomized
round
robin
order
and
the
city
clerk
will
alert
each
applicant
when
their
time
has
elapsed.
A
A
A
D
B
D
A
A
I
think
everyone
is
now
in
the
panel.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
The
question
selected
by
the
council
will
be
asked
in
randomized
round
robin
order.
I
will
tell
you
how
much
time
you
have
for
each
question
ahead
of
asking
it
and
just
as
a
starting
point.
Thank
you
all
for
applying
it's
it's
fantastic
to
see
so
much
interest
in
this
body.
A
The
first
question
you
will
have
one
minute
to
respond
to
and
that
question
is
what
have
so
in
this
case
there
it
will
depend
on
where
you
are
relative
to
you
know
your
your
position
on
the
Planning
Commission.
What
have
you
personally
done
to
make
a
contribution
to
the
EPC
or
if
you
are
not
currently
serving?
What
would
you
bring
to
the
EPC?
That
is
unique.
F
Okay,
ready
to
go
okay,
so
I
think
probably
the
most
unique
thing
that
I
would
bring
to
the
EPC.
I
mean
I've
been
a
resident
of
Mountain
View
for
many
years.
22
years,
I
grew
up
in
a
very
well-run
City
and
have
always
been
impressed
with
how
well-run
Mountain
View
is
and
would
like
to
do
my
part
to
keep
it
that
way.
F
I'm
a
resident
of
the
downtown
area
and
also
a
very
small
landlord
in
the
downtown
area
and
I
think
that
having
those
two
different
perspectives
is
something
that
could
be
a
valuable
to
the
Commission.
In
addition,
I
think
I
have
a
talent
for
perspective,
taking
and
assimilating
information
and
I.
Think
one
of
your
very
difficult
jobs
on
the
commission
is
to
balance
a
lot
of
different
constituencies
needs
and
I.
Think
I
would
be
able
to
do
that.
Well,.
G
G
The
business
that
I
have
is
is
is
fairly
small
we've,
while
I'm
paying
people
well
above
minimum
wage.
Most
of
them
are
in
the
in
the
below
market
rate
and
in
a
moderate
income
category,
so
making
sure
that
I
bring
the
business
perspective,
but
also
trying
to
bring
perspective
of.
What's
it
like
to
try
to
keep
people
in
the
area
working
in
the
area,
contributing
and
and
looking
at,
how
does
that
affect
the
Mountain
View?
G
G
H
C
H
So
I
think
that
what
I
would
bring
is
just
well
first
of
all,
I
have
a
passion
for
for
good
governance
and
I've
been
involved
in
the
city
on
various
advisory
bodies.
For
the
last
16
years,
seven
years
on
the
PRC
eight
years
on
the
library
board
and
I
have
nine
years
of
land
use
experience
on
the
County's
airport
land
use
Commission,
which
oversees
land
use
near
airports
to
make
sure
that
it's
compatible
with
with
airports.
I
Sure,
let
me
I
want
to
start
whenever
you're
ready,
oh
okay,
awesome
thanks.
I'll
go
for
it
right
now:
hey
so
I'm,
a
single
parent
I'm
got
two
beautiful
girls.
I've
been
a
member
of
the
community
for
an
hour
over
22
plus
years,
I
have
served
on
private
boards
as
well
I'm
an
ethnic
minority
person
trying
to
survive
in
the
this
crazy
Iran
area
that
we
call
our
home
Mountain
View,
and
during
the
past
year,
I've
been
trying
to
do
everything.
I
I
can
to
promote
affordable
housing
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
have
Partnerships
established
between
the
city
of
Mountain,
View
and
others
as
well.
The
Charities
program,
and
that
housing
project
was
one
example
of
how
we
can
work
together
to
make
things
happen
for
the
community
and
at
the
same
time,
I
also
like
to
bring
consensus
to
the
group.
I
know
that
we
have
different
opinions
with
strong
viewpoints
and
I
like
to
think
that
I've
been
able
to
bridge
that
Gap,
sometimes
so
bring
forth
a
resolution.
A
J
Hi
so
I
came
here:
I
I,
also
a
15-year
resident
of
Mountain
View
before
that
I
grew
up
in
Palo,
Alto
and
I.
Think
one
unique
perspective
I
bring
is
that
I've
been
an
environmental
science
teacher
and
so
I
think
I
can
bring
kind
of
an
awareness
of
the
Nuance
of
how
we
can
develop
our
city
while
also
keeping
in
mind
the
environmental
impacts
and
I'm.
Also
a
mother
and
I'm
bike
to
work
every
day,
so
I
get
to
see
how
our
active
transport
infrastructure
Works
around
the
city
quite
consistent,
consistently.
J
K
K
L
Okay,
I'm
I'm
I
want
to
bring
my
ethos
acidic
and
energy
to
the
EPC.
I
also
lived
in
Mountain
View
for
over
20
years
and
I've
lived
here
since
I
was
single,
then
I
was
married.
Then
we've
raised
our
kids
in
Mountain
View,
so
I
lived
on
both
on
the
north
side
of
El
Camino
and
the
south
is
of
El
Camino
I
do
want
to
bring
my
perspective
of
you
know
the
Sleepy
part
of
the
towns
to
the
to
the
EPC
as
well
I'm
a
big
proponent
for
sustainability.
L
I
have
a
PhD
degree
in
chemistry
as
well,
so
I'm
a
well
versed
with
the
impact
of
the
environment,
so
I
I
wanted
to
bring
the
consensus
and
help
to
remove
the
restraints
with
the
development
with
the
housing,
which
is
the
challenge.
I
understand
this
current
challenge
with
any
house
projects,
so
I
wanted
to
haul
okay,
yeah
Outreach
to
the
community.
A
G
G
Those
have
really
changed
had
a
pretty
significant
impact
on
where
we
see
the
development
of
the
city
going
forward
and
what
it's
going
to
do
from
there.
There
are
challenges
within
that.
The
general
plan
was
done
at
a
time
when
the
economy
was
was
not
in
the
shape
that
it
was
the
last
couple
years
and
was
definitely
not
done
at
a
time
where
we
see
kind
of
the
impact
of
covet
going
forward.
G
There
are
areas
of
the
city
that
I
think
potentially
could
be
looked
at
for
redevelopment
Beyond,
where
the
general
plan
currently
is
outlined,
but
that
would
require
us
to
look
at
the
general
plan
potentially
and
maybe
look
at
additional
precise
plans.
The
existing
precise
plans
that
are
in
place,
I
think
have
done,
are
fairly
strong.
I
I
think
the
East
Westman
precise
plan,
El
Camino,
have
been
very
impactful,
we're
seeing
some
of
the
impact
Act
of
San
Antonio.
We
we
have,
we
still
have
to
realize
the
benefit
of
the
North
Bay
share
price
Planet.
F
G
Hasn't
realized
what
we
had
set
out
to
do
so.
Do
we
need
to
look
at
that?
I'm?
Not
sure
downtown
is
very
much
something
we
need
to
look
at
there's
been.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
around
the
sobrato
project.
There's
a
lot
of
interest
on
re-looking
at
that
I
really
think
looking
at
downtown.
It
was
something
that
was
done
many
years
ago
is
going
to
be
important
to
us
going
forward.
G
I
I
Some
of
us
are
still
working
from
home,
others
will
not,
but
the
development
of
the
city
has
to
continue
on
and
those
plans
sometimes
affect
and
dictate
the
pace
in
which
developers
look
at
our
city
for
potential
output
and
if
we
have
a
revised
General
plan
that
you
all
can
then
look
at
I.
Think
that
would
give
us
more
of
a
stronger
voice
at
the
table
of
negotiations
when
and
if
these
new
plans
come
into
play
because
I
think
the
way
that
it
stands
now
and
one
example
will
be
the
downtown
first
life
plan.
I
Some
developers
may
come
in
and
look
at
this
as
an
opportunity
to
do
something:
that's
not
benefit
for
the
city
up
to
a
point
right
and
those
are
the
loopholes
that
we
have
to
look
for.
So
when
we
look
at
this
option
to
set
a
cap
for
the
parking
for
the
downtown
precise
plan-
and
we
went
with
it
to
give
you
all
support
and
time
to
be
able
to
look
at
those
items
in
the
future
to
figure
out
how
best
can
we
approach
this?
So
we
don't
have
another
sobrato
situation.
I
I
think
that's
important
to
to
understand
so
the
way
I
look
at.
It
is
exactly
just
that
if
we
have
time
for
the
city
to
have
you
all,
look
at
the
general
plan
make
revisions
to
it
like
you're
thinking
about
possibly
doing
with
the
downtown
precise
plan.
It's
going
to
further
enhance
and
bold
in
our
positions
when
it
comes
down
to
speaking
with
developers,
developers
of
All
Sorts
when
they
come
into
a
Mountain
View
and
suggest
what
they'd
like
to
do
all.
K
I'm
not
as
well
versed
as
others
on
this
as
I'm
still
pretty
new
and
still
trying
to
learn
as
much
as
I
can
I
did.
I
am
very
interested
in
the
fact
that
we've
had
the
general
plan
and
yeah
times
have
definitely
just
changed
so
drastically.
That
I
feel
that
we
definitely
do
need
to
do
a
review.
As
others
have
stated.
It's
just.
K
Our
society
has
changed
so
much
in
a
two-year
span
that
obviously
nobody
would
have
ever
really
planned
or
accounted
for
before
it
happened
and
going
forward
with
plans
that
were
made
before
just
seems
kind
of
backwards
in
that
regard
and
kind
of
I.
Don't
see
this
scrape
the
plate
in
that
regard,
but
kind
of
at
least
really
look
at
things
and
see
how
our
growth
changes
and
our
need
changes
have
really
affected
the
original
goal
and
where
we
might
need
to
move
those
goal
posts
from
where
we
were
thinking.
K
Yeah
the
the
impacts
of
covid
developing
downtown
in
both
the
the
downtown
plan
and
the
general
plan
of
you
know.
The
stores
versus
the
restaurants
versus
the
people
versus
the
walking
and
the
cars
I
know
that
it's
kind
of
getting
there
but
I
think
there
could
be
a
lot
more
attention
to
it
and
the
impacts
it
are
changing.
L
Yes,
hi
I
understood
the
general
plan
was
this
I
was
finalized
in
2012..
It
was
quite
some
time
ago,
but
it
was
a
Visionary
plan.
My
understanding
is
it
as
in
certain
circumstances,
it's
not
exactly
in
line
with
the
precise
plan
but
to
rework
the
general
plan.
It's
take
me.
It's
going
to
take
three
to
four
years,
so
I
think
Council
will
have
to
evaluate
very
carefully
if
we
have
the
resource
or
manpower
to
do
that.
But
in
the
meantime,
I
did
notice
with
a
couple
sites.
L
I
studied,
say
the
shopping
center,
Village
shopping
center
side
in
the
housing
elements,
and
it
was
look.
The
zoning
was
a
c
and
the
commercial
side,
but
in
the
general
plan
it
was
already
mixed
to
use,
so
the
zoning
will
be
need
to
be
updated
in
that
instance.
So
I
do
believe
carefully
to
try
to
align
the
general
plan
with
the
current
precise
plan
and
the
zoning
are
crucial
for
Implement
housing
element
going
forward.
L
So
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
know
at
this
point,
I
couldn't
say
for
sure.
What's
the
best
afford
effort,
but
I
do
like
to
see
that
console
have
some
direction,
give
some
direction
to
the
city
staff
on
the
R3
of
zoning
R3
zoning,
as
well
as
how
the
displacement
strategies
going
to
work
out
in
according
with
R3,
because
that's
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
uncertainty
on
that
among
the
community
as
well.
L
L
J
Hi
yeah
so
I
kind
of
agree
that
if
you
look
over
the
the
master
plan,
there's
so
much
good
stuff
in
it
and
I
know
the
devil
gets
in
the
details.
I
think
there's
been
some
conflict
between
projects
and
precise
plans
as
to
how
to
like
really
meet
the
master
plan's
goals
that
sometimes
there's
a
disconnect
between
the
two
sets
of
documents,
but
overall
I
think
the
themes
of
the
master
plan
are
all
things
that
I've
really
been
advocating
for
already
in
the
city.
J
There's
a
lot
of
calls
out
for
active
Transportation,
Planning,
increasing
Park
spaces
and
outdoor
use
spaces
really
supporting
like
our
environmental
stewardship
of
stewardship
of
the
area.
If
we
look
at
the
themes
of
the
master
plan,
it's
all
about
quality
of
life,
sustainability
and
encouraging
more
health
and
wellness.
So
these
are
all
things
that
I've
already
been
working
for
towards
by
participating
in
groups
like
The,
bpac
and
Parks,
and
Rec
commission
and
green
spaces
Mountain
View.
J
So
these
are
all
things
I'm
already
standing
behind
and
then
the
trick
is:
how
do
we
incorporate
them
into
our
design
process?
As
we,
we
increase
our
housing
capacity
within
the
city,
so
it's
it
seems
like
all
the
general
goals
are
there
and
then
the
question
is:
how
do
we
Implement
them
in
a
balanced
way
to
support
our
growing
population
and
make
sure
that
our
city
stays
in
inclusive
Space
by
making
space
for
everyone
who
needs
to
be
here
and
work
to
support
each
other?
H
So
I
I
think
I
will
distinguish
myself
from
a
few
of
the
other
people
earlier
who
wanted
to
reopen
the
general
plan.
I
mean
the
general
plan
was
put
in
place
about
10
years
ago
and
I
my
recollection.
Is
it
took
about
four
years
to
to
get
that
thing
through
with
so
that
it
seems
like
a
pretty
heavy,
lift
and
I?
Don't
think
that
every
10
years
we
should
be
spending,
we
should
be
spending
four
out
of
every
10
years,
redoing
the
general
plan.
H
So
of
course
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
shouldn't
be
amended.
I
mean
there
are.
There
are
some
details
around
the
edges
and
things
that
that
could
obviously
be
be
tweaked
and
and
improved
I.
Don't
have
any
specific
examples
in
mind
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
think
that
the
precise
plans
are
good.
That
and
a
lot
of
them
are
Transit
oriented,
for
instance,
so,
like
El
Camino
is
it.
H
You
know
a
transit
route
downtown
is
near
the
train
station
Etc
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
all
these
plans
achieve
our
sustainability
goals
and,
as
as
we
develop
say,
new
neighborhoods
like
North
Bayshore,
it
needs
to
not
just
be:
let's
just
throw
a
bunch
of
housing
out
there.
I
mean
it
needs
to
be
a
complete
neighborhood
right.
H
It
needs
to
have
the
services
it
needs
to
have
the
transportation
it
needs
to
have
schools,
it
needs
to
have
Parks
I
mean
it
was
on
the
PRC
for
years.
So
parks
are
always
a
big
one
for
me
and
and
and
just
all
of
the
amenities,
so
that
it's
not
some
you're
not
living
on
the
wrong
side
of
101.
it
needs
to.
It
needs
to
be
just
like
the
rest
of
the
city,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
think
is
is
certainly
big
in
everybody's
Minds.
B
C
F
Foreign,
yes,
so
I,
similarly,
I
I.
Think
when
I
look
at
the
the
general
plan
and
the
precise
plans,
you
know
I
think
the
question
was:
what
what
do
you
think
of
the
plans
and
I
think
the
plans
are
all
very
good
and
they
address
a
lot
of
the
important
things
that
I
think
we
all
care
about
as
residents
which
you
know
and
environmental
sustainability,
and
you
know
Mountain
View
continuing
to
be
sort
of
on
The
Cutting
Edge
of
developing.
F
You
know
environmentally
sustainable
communities,
the
you
know,
demographic
diversity,
you
know
I
think
those
of
us
who
choose
to
live
here.
That's
something
important
to
us
as
well,
and
so
you
know
the
plans.
The
plans
definitely
value
that
and
and
explicitly
call
those
out
as
important
elements
of
of
our
you
know.
Urban
Design,
so
I
think
if,
if
things
aren't
always
working
out
exactly
the
way
we
want
them
to
that
doesn't
mean
necessarily.
The
plan
was
bad
it.
F
It
might
mean
that
the
circumstances
of
you
know
where
you
know
you're
dealing
with
that
we're
in
a
an
environment
where
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
land,
and
so
it's
It's
Tricky.
As
you
know,
people
have
flowed
into
the
bay
area
and
you
know
I
know
they're
flowing
out
now,
but
but
balancing
balancing
the
needs
of
the
plan
against
sort
of
the
realities
on
the
ground
and
I
think
you
know
that's.
What
sort
of
all
of
these
answers
are
are
grappling
with
is
how
how
we
adapt.
F
H
Public
comment
is
super
important
to
me.
I
think
that,
well,
that's
why
I
have
two
ears
and
one
month
right:
I
I!
It's
it's
important
to
listen,
to
gather
the
input
from
the
public
and,
of
course,
you're
not
going
to
make
everyone
happy
right.
Somebody
will
always
be
kind
of
you
know.
If
there's
two
sides,
one
side
will
always
kind
of
end
up
losing,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
the
public
to
feel
heard
and
respected
right.
That's
that's!
H
That's
what
it's
all
our
our
whole
system
is
built
on
the
as
far
as
a
private
property
and
public
benefits,
The
Well,
Community,
benefits,
I
think
are
I,
mean
I,
I!
Guess
if,
if
I
were
to
pick
a
specific
example
like
like
private,
open
space
versus
public
open
space
generally,
I
would
I
would
lean
towards
public
open
space
that
can
be
used
by
all
of
the
the
community
and
it's
not
limited
to
just
people
in
a
particular
development,
because
that
that
benefits
the
entire
Community
right.
H
J
J
J
Other
people
would
take
that
seriously
and
I
would
take
other
people's
seriously
as
well,
because
I
know
how
much
time
it
takes
for
people
to
be
in
the
meetings
waiting
for
that
chance
to
speak,
how
much
time
it
takes
for
them
to
make
sure
they
can
fit
it
in
their
two
minutes,
and
so
they've
put
a
lot
of
thought
in
consideration
into
what
they've
said
and
sometimes
possibly
even
more
thought
into
certain
details
than
I
would
have
had
time.
For
so
I.
J
L
So
I'm
just
wondering
so
I
would
like
to
be
the
person
if
I'm,
you
know
selected
for
this
commission
that
reach
out
to
more
broader
communities,
so
get
more
feedback,
and
we
don't
want
people
like
in
a
year
or
two
many
years
into
it
then
realize
they
will
never
be
involved
so
that
that
that's
my
feedback
on
the
public
comments
just
need
more
diverse
feedback
from
different
communities
regarding
to
the
private
properties
or
com.
Public
benefits.
I'm
now
very
familiar
with
this
subject,
so
I
I
do
recall.
L
It
came
up
during
our
three
zoning
Outreach,
like
whether
create
more
common
space
for
people
to
share
and
I
did
notice
in
the
past
a
lot
of
condos.
They
have
their
private
space
inside
of
account,
though
not
open
to
the
public
as
well.
The
only
other
thing
I
can
think
about
is
the
private.
You
know
own
the
school
yard,
whether
should
be
shared
with
public
and
think
it's
you
know,
I,
don't
know
enough
on
the
subject
to
to
give
a
lot
of
comments.
So
that's
that's
all
I
know
at
this
point.
C
A
F
Yeah
I
think
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
you
have
to
I,
don't
think
it's
I
think
you
have
to
prioritize
prioritize,
both
private
and
public
and
I.
Think
getting
too
unbalanced
in
that
regard
is
is
probably
not
the
best
thing
for
the
city.
Having
said
that,
like
I
think
it
is
important
to
have
you
know,
shared
spaces
for
people
who
are
not
private
owners
and
I
think
it
is
also
important,
for
you
know
private
landowners
to
have
the
rights
that
they
have
paid
for
through
their
Investments.
F
So
that's
my
perspective
on
that
regards
to
public
comment,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
incredibly
important
and
valuable.
I
I
always
hear
something
another
perspective
that
I
hadn't
considered
another
people
from
another
area
who
would
be
affected
differently
than
than
I
had
considered
so
I
think
it's
it's.
It's
super
important
to
for
public
comment
because
it
makes
people
feel
heard
and
I
think
it's
also
super
important
for
the
people
listening
to
to
Value
those
perspectives
and
come
up
hear
input
that
they
might
not
have
considered
foreign.
A
I
Thank
you,
sir.
This
is
a
democracy.
This
is
how
it
works
at
the
local
level
and
I
love
it,
because
it's
both
a
challenge
and
it's
Manning,
sometimes
because
you
agree
to
disagree
based
on
everything
that
you
hear
everything
that
you
read
all
the
emails
that
come
in
I'm
engaged
in
being
able
to
find
out
what
are
they
thinking
about
and
why?
I
Well,
if
they
stop
me
on
on
Castro,
because
that's
happened:
I'll,
listen,
right
and
I'll,
listen
to
the
feedback
and
I
think
that's
the
biggest
challenge
that
we
have
that,
sometimes,
whether
we're
in
public
or
on
a
board
or
part
of
a
team
here
in
in
a
government
world
or
at
work.
The
biggest
challenge
we
have
right
now
is
listening
to
one
another's
thoughts
and
ideas
and
finding
value
in
the
difference
that
we
have
to
share,
and
that,
for
me,
is
important.
I
That's
why
I
a
lot
of
people
who
call
who
write
or
who
email
who
talk
to
you,
because
it's
not
an
easy
thing
to
do,
and
it
takes
a
certain
type
of
person
to
have
that
strength
to
be
able
to
say
hey.
This
is
what
I
think
and
and
another
to
say,
I
agree
but
disagree,
and
you
move
forward
towards
something
more
constructive
and
I.
Think
it's
great
that
we
have
this
process
and
place.
I
The
other
aspect,
though,
is
in
terms
of
like
public
and
and
private
land
rights,
along
with
Community
benefits,
depending
on
the
project.
That's
going
to
dictate
the
conversation
alone
and
I
think
if
it's
a
private
one
or
a
public
one.
If
you're
looking
at
housing
versus
a
business,
Community,
there's
laws
in
place
that
say
what
you
can
and
cannot
do,
and
there's
also
laws
in
place.
That
say
what
the
city
could
gain
in
terms
of
the
community
benefit.
I
So
as
long
as
we
can
figure
out
what
those
options
are
for
us,
when
we
get
those
plans
at
the
EPC
before
they
go
on
to
you
all
for
further
review
on
jobs
will
be
able
to
figure
out.
How
much
can
we
get
for
the
benefit
of
the
community,
whether
it's
more
units
or
more
green
space
or
more
park
space?
That's
where
we
come
into
play
to
be
to
be
able
to
figure
out.
Where
can
we
step
in?
C
K
K
G
The
the
trade-offs
of
public
versus
private
is
when
they
want
to
go
outside
of
those
rules
and
and
also
when
the
city
looks
at
it
says
you
know
the
rules
that
we've
had
in
place.
Don't
work
anymore.
It
becomes
incumbent
on
us
as
a
EPC
as
a
council,
to
look
at
those
rules
and
say:
do
those
rules
still
make
sense
going
forward
and
go
through
a
process
that
makes
sure
that
gets
that
Community
input
to
look
at
those
rules
going
forward
and
if
they
need
to
be
updated,
then
make
those
updates.
G
But
during
the
time
the
rules
are
in
place,
people
should
be
able
to
to
use
the
rules
that
are
in
place
for
their
projects
and
and
move
ahead
with
those
when
they,
when
they
go
outside
of
those
rules
and
they're.
Looking
at
something
that
goes
outside
of
the
existing
zoning
or
land
use
requirements,
then
asking
that
question.
Is
that
fair?
What
are
they
looking
to
try
to
do?
Are
there
things
that
we
can
do
as
trade-offs
is
important?
And,
quite
frankly,
one
of
the
challenges
we're
going
to
have
going
forward
is
the
density.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
that
concludes
the
interview
portion
of
the
discussion.
Thank
you
all
again
for
applying
and
at
the
conclusion
of
the
deliberation
and
recommendation
you
I.
It
is
a
public
meeting.
You
are
not
required
to
leave,
but
if
you
elect
to
to
sign
off,
then
somebody
from
the
city
clerk's
office
will
be
in
touch
with
you
at
the
conclusion
of
the
process.
So
thank
you
all
again
for
participating
in
this
process.
I
will
now
bring
the
matter
back
to
the
council
for
voting.
A
A
E
It
sounds
like
now's
the
time
to
do
so
great
perfect,
so
I
I
did
take
the
opportunity
to
watch
several
EPC
meetings
and
thought
that
something
I
believe
the
the
city
clerk
has
brought
up
and
I
believe
our
city
manager
has
brought
up
our
worth
pursuing
and
I'm,
not
sure
how
we
do
that,
which
is
a
a
commission
or
board
training.
101.
E
E
M
M
M
The
smartest
questions
in
the
tour
group
and
I
said
to
myself
I'm
glad
we
have
somebody
who
you
know
understands
the
issues
and
asks
good
questions
and
and
can
do
so
in
public
and
I
think
he
has
in
in
EPC
meetings
as
well.
So
I
would
move
to
re-add
Bill
Cranston
to
the
EPC,
and
then
the
other
person
I've
been
impressed
with
over
past
year
or
so
of
Celia
Palmer.
M
So,
as
she's
gone
to
really
a
tremendous
number
of
meetings,
Council
meetings,
DRC
green
spaces,
I-
did
not
bring
I,
should
have
brought
a
list
of
them
and
she's
made
very
smart
comments
on
really
a
wide
array
of
things,
as
she
did
tonight,
whether
it
be
housing,
active,
Transportation,
green
spaces,
Parks
Etc,
so
I
think
she
has
the
breadth
of
a
background
as
well.
So
that
would
be
my
motion.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
so
I
hate
I
hate
to
be
the
the
mustache
bureaucrat,
but
our
policy
does
prescribe
a
voting
method
and
unless
I'm
mistaken,
we
may
need
a
majority
vote
of
the
council
to
to
change
the
process.
But
I'll
I'll
defer
to
the
city
clerk
and
are
we
obligated
to
use
the
voting
process
to
find
the
policy
unless
there's
a
majority
vote,
or
could
we
go
straight
so.
C
A
A
M
A
N
I
think
we
always
have
a
great
showing
of
applicants
and
it's
always
hard
to
hard
to
pick
because
there
there
are
many
many
qualified
folks,
but
having
said
that,
I
I
think
that
I've
tried
to
follow
a
tradition
where,
if
we
have
incumbents,
who've
done
a
good
job
that
we
can
reappoint
them,
and
so
in
light
of
that,
I
will
be.
My
two
votes
will
be
going
to
Bill,
Cranston
and
Jose
Gutierrez.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
so
I
also
want
to
thank
all
of
our
applicants.
I
think
EPC
is
the
only
commission
that
the
full
Council
appoints,
and
so
it's
always
nice
to
see
a
lot
of
strong
interest
from
our
residents.
So
I
would
like
to
have
my
support
be
for
our
our
existing
EPC
members
Bill,
who
I
know
it's.
It's
I
think
unprecedented.
E
Where
he's
had
two
back-to-back
terms
as
as
chair
I,
think
somebody
cycled
through
and
was
chair
twice,
but
not
back
to
back
and
I
know
that
part
of
that
was
navigating
during
the
pandemics.
I
want
to
thank
bill
for
for
that,
as
well
as
the
perspective
he
brings
as
a
small
business
owner,
homeowner
property
owner
and
living
in
Mauna
Loma
Community,
where
we've
heard
a
lot
of
community
feedback,
my
other
vote
will
be
for
Jose
Gutierrez
Jose
also
offers
I
think
a
unique
perspective
in
terms
of
the
background
that
he
brings.
E
One
of
our
Civic
leadership
academies
is
the
Spanish
language
Leadership
Academy
and
last
year,
I
was
proud
to
see
that
Jose
was
a
participant
in
that
and
has
really
been
working
and
advocating
with
the
community
in
terms
of
getting
that
community
and
public
input
and
bringing
some
transparency
to
how
government
can
work,
which
is
not
always
easy
and
have
been
appreciative
to
see
of
his
of
his
efforts.
Thank
you.
D
Thanks
and
apologies
for
the
voice
here,
I
lose
it
often
I
do
appreciate
everyone
who
applied
I
was
very
impressed
with
a
lot
of
the
answers
here
tonight.
Many
of
you
I
have
never
met
before
and
clearly
you've
spent
time
either
preparing
for
this
interview
or
you've
been
pairing
all
along
and
brought
that
forward
tonight.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
do
watch
a
lot
of
the
advisory
body
meetings,
including
the
EPC
meetings
and
I
agree
with
the
comment
about
the
questions
that
bill
Cranston
asks.
D
I
appreciate
how
thoughtful
they
are
and
and
how
knowledgeable
he
is
about
land
use,
so
I
definitely
support
reappointing,
Bill,
Cranston
I
do
struggle
a
bit
because
then
I
feel
like.
There
were
a
lot
of
good
folks
who
spoke
tonight
and
I
this
one's
a
really
really
challenging.
For
me,
I
think
I
would
like
to
support
tonight.
P
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
would
like
to
Echo
my
colleagues
appreciation
and
thanks
of
the
people,
who've
applied.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
so
heartening
in
Mountain
View
is
the
high
caliber
of
people
we
get
to
step
up
to
serve
on
these
advisory
boards.
It's
it's
really
wonderful
and
I
took
the
time
to
reach
out
to
everybody
and
talk
to
them.
M
Okay,
well,
I
haven't
changed
my
mind
about
who
I'm
voting
for
since
I
last
spoke,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
you
know
I
think
from
time
to
time.
I
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
strong
candidates
and
that's
not
the
case.
This
time.
I
do
feel
like
we
have
a
lot
of
strong
candidates
and
it's
not
the
easiest
decision,
but
that
said,
I
will
be
voting
for
Bill,
Cranston
and
Celia
painter.
A
Thank
you
and
I
will
reiterate
much
of
what
has
already
been
said.
First,
in
thinking
all
of
the
applicants
for
applying
it's,
it's
fascinating
to
me,
watching
the
council
over
the
years,
how
a
lot
of
the
the
popularity
of
the
advisory
bodies
sort
of
you
know
Ebbs
and
flows.
Sometimes
we'll
have
you
know
very
few
applicants
for
the
Planning
Commission,
even
when
there
are
open
seats
and
sometimes
we'll
have
many
applicants.
A
C
A
We
get
a
lot
of
really
strong
candidates
and
this
is
inherently
challenging,
because
picking
between
between
people
is
is
tough
right.
We
don't
want
to
discourage
anyone
from
continuing
to
you
know,
be
civically
engaged
in
our
city,
especially
and
I.
Think
clearly
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
council
is.
Everybody
has
something
to
offer.
A
It
didn't
make
a
difference
in
this
context,
but
I
think
it
is
important
to
note
that
both
unless
I
mistaken,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
Council
appointments,
Review
Committee
but
Molly
and
Anne
have
been
recommended
for
appointments
to
other
advisory
bodies.
So
you
will
both
have
ability
to
serve
the
city
in
a
different
context,
but
you
know
we're
also
grateful
for
you
applying
for
this
body,
and
you
know
I
I,
think
getting
to
where
my
vote
actually
matters.
A
A
You
know,
has
a
you
know,
track
record
of
contributing.
You
know
in
a
way
that
other
members
of
The
Advisory
body
may
not
be
able
to
just
given
their
where
they
reside
in
the
city,
their
background,
their
education
different,
you
know,
subject
matter
interest
that
kind
of
thing.
It's
good
to
have
sort
of
a
a
variety
of
stakeholders
represented
to
the
greatest
extent
possible.
A
In
this
case
you
know
we
we've
heard
many
members
of
the
council
share
the
contributions
that
that
commissioner
chair
Cranston
has
brought
over
the
years
not
only
on
the
Planning
Commission,
but
also
as
a
neighborhood
leader
and
an
active
resident
for
many
years,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
continue
to
to
support
him
sounds
like
I
could
learn
from
you
bill.
You
asked
thoughtful
questions.
Someday
I
aspire
to
do
the
same
and
then
I'm
also
supporting
Jose
for
reappointment
for
a
couple
of
reasons
of
one.
A
You
know
the
the
R3
update
is
very
important
to
me
and
I.
Believe
commissioner
Gutierrez
is
the
only
member
of
the
Planning
Commission
who
actually
lives
in
property.
Sound
R3,
just
as
I
am
the
only
member
of
the
council
who
you
know
lives
in
a
property,
zoned,
R3
I
think
that's
an
important
consideration
and
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
often
get
members
of
the
Latino
latinx
community
on
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
a
very
important
consideration
for
me
as
well
as
well
as
somebody
who
speaks
Spanish
fluently.
A
It's
just
a
skill
I
lack
so
as
predicted
by
council
member
Showalter,
just
given
where
the
votes
have
played
out,
we
will
have
a
second
round.
So
congratulations,
commissioner:
Cranston.
Unless
the
council
deviates
from
this
recommendation,
it
looks
like
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
continue
your
service
and
now,
unless
there
are
other
remarks
from
the
council,
we
can
start
with
the
second
round
of
votes
to
see
if
there's
a
majority
for
a
for
for
the
second
seat,.
B
P
C
A
B
A
If
not
I'll
share
one
more
time,
thank
you
again
for
for
your
participation
in
this
process,
and
so
the
the
city
council
has
made
a
recommendation
to
itself.
We
still
have
to
vote
in
a
in
a
in
a
regular
session
to
complete
the
appointments
and
that
I
believe
will
be
wrapped
up
with
all
of
the
other
appointments
recommended
by
the
council:
appointments
Review
Committee.