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4:00 p.m. Tuesday, June 30, 2020
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I
believe
5:30
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B
Thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
also
thank
everyone
and
staff
were
helping
us
put
together
this
first
meeting
of
the
subcommittee,
as
as
we've
talked
about
this
over
a
couple
of
council
meetings,
I'm
excited
that
we
are
underway
and
getting
this
process
together
and
I.
Just
I'm
pleased
to
have
our
three
members
on
this
committee
I
look
forward
to
the
work
that
we
are
expecting
to
do
and
just
to
put
into
context.
C
A
D
Thank
you,
city
manager,
McCarthy,
so
I
believe
this
ends
item
4.1.
So
we
can
move
on
to
item
4.2,
correct,
great
okay.
So
we'll
move
on
to
item
4.2,
which
is
an
update
and
discussion
related
to
the
city's
commitment
to
engage
the
community
in
meaningful
dialogue
and
take
action
toward
a
vision
of
racial
justice
and
equity
in
Mountain,
View
and
renewed
public
interest
in
lon.
D
A
You
vice
mayor
Khmer,
besides
myself,
I'd
first
like
to
introduce
our
staff
that
are
assisting
with
the
efforts
towards
the
subcommittee
and
and
moving
forward.
So
first
Audrey
Seymour
Ramberg
is
the
city's
assistant
city
manager
and
she
serves
as
the
staff
liaison
to
the
Human
Relations
Commission,
and
so
she
will
help
bridge
the
HRC's
work
on
race,
equity
and
inclusion
and
work
with
the
subcommittee
as
well
and
Melvin.
Gaines
is
the
city's
principal
management
analyst.
He
leads.
A
It
will
take
time
and
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
right
for
our
community
and
this
subcommittee
meeting
is
is
a
first
step
in
that
process.
So
in
that
vein,
today's
meeting
topics
include
receiving
an
update
from
police
chief
max
Bozell
on
the
police
department,
use
of
force
policies
and
significant
changes
that
have
been
made.
Also,
brainstorming
about
opportunities
to
create
to
a
dialogue
and
other
community
activities
and
events
towards
this
effort,
and
that
also
includes
working
with
the
Human,
Relations,
Commission
and
finally
providing
direction
to
staff
on
next
steps.
A
So,
following
chief
pizzelles
presentation,
we
will
open
for
public
comment
on
the
business
agenda
item,
so
that
would
include
the
police,
chief's
presentation
and
community
conversations
and
potential
events
and
activities
that
the
subcommittee
may
consider
and
also
next
steps
that
this
subcommittee
may
take.
So
I'll
now
like
to
turn
it
over
to
chief
max
bozell
for
a
presentation
and
update.
E
Thank
You
council
members:
this
is
the
Police
Department's
presentation
to
the
Subcommittee
on
race,
equity
and
inclusion
on
our
use
of
force
of
the
escalation
policy,
and
today
I've
been
asked,
in
addition
to
sharing
the
policy,
to
provide
just
an
overview
of
our
calls
for
service.
To
give
some
context,
I'll
update
you
briefly
on
kind
of
the
architecture
of
policies
and
procedures
and
the
purpose
and
then
finally
discuss
our
updates
to
use
of
force
and
de-escalation.
We've
changed
the
name
of
our
policy
to
reflect
de-escalation.
E
So,
in
terms
of
our
calls
for
service,
we
have
two
general
categories:
dispatched
in
self-initiated
and
within
the
categories
of
calls
for
service.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
care,
taking
responsibilities,
investigation
and
enforcement
responsibilities,
and,
while
the
majority
of
calls
are
handled
by
sworn
officers,
we
do
have
non-sworn
staff
community
services
officers
as
well
as
police
assistants,
that
handle
a
number
of
the
non
urgent
calls
that
are
more
cold
reports
or
complaints
around
quality
alive
for
parkings.
As
an
example,
these
numbers
are
rounded
from
2019
they're,
not
specifically
accurate.
E
They
have
the
general
rounding
of
what
are
calls
for
service,
which
is
CFS,
and
the
bottom
line
darker
blue
bar
depicts
are
dispatched
calls
for
service
at
about
18,000
a
little
over
and
17,000
or
self-initiated,
also
a
little
bit
over.
So
it's
more
in
line
of
36,000
calls
that
are
handled
and
of
those
we
generate
about
90
100
cases
in
2019
about
5400
of
those
cases
when
I
say
cases.
E
We
do
roughly
about
seventy
three
hundred
traffic
stops
a
year
about
20
per
day
about
3100
of
those
are
result
in
citation,
and
a
number
may
result
in
arrests,
for
example,
duis
and
others
are
just
perhaps
warnings
that
are
given
to
the
violator
and
we
make
about
two
thousand
two
thousand
arrests
per
year.
So
the
general
categories
that
we
define
as
a
perspective
of
what
we
do
and
our
responsibilities,
the
caretaking
investigative
and
enforcement
aspects
of
policing.
So
as
an
example,
traffic
stops
have
an
enforcement
component
to
it.
E
C
E
It
brings
an
investigative
component
as
a
part
of
that
they
find
a
loaded
handgun
in
the
vehicle
and
make
the
arrest
for
the
DUI
and
the
enforcement,
as
well
as
the
loaded
handgun.
So
there's
a
community
caretaking
perspective
as
well.
Another
example
more
community
caretaking,
but
having
some
investigative
overlap
or
missing
person
cases,
and
we
get
called
to
all
age
groups
who
could
be
missing
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
E
Alarm
calls
and
open
door.
Investigations
is
an
example
of
both
investigative
and
community
caretaking
likely
not
enforcement
related
and
disturbance
calls
where
we
get
called
out
to
everything
from
loud
parties
to
civil
disputes
or
domestic
disputes
in
which
we
may
not
take
enforcement
action.
But
we
try
to
help
resolve
the
situation
through
a
community
community
caretaking
perspective.
E
Quick
word
on
mental
health
calls,
which
is
really
a
community
caretaking
responsibility
that
were
involved
in.
We
do
about
20
calls
per
month
in
which
we
place
a
person
on
a
psychological
hold,
and
we
may
not
transport
them
an
ambulance
may,
depending
if
there's
a
medical
condition
or
we
transport
them.
We
also
do
partner
with
uplift
Family
Services,
for
example.
E
We
also
have
been
meeting
regularly
for
the
last
several
years
with
the
county
to
support
the
standing
up
of
a
mobile
response
team.
It's
been
beta
tested.
We
do
occasionally
have
their
services
responding
to
the
city
to
assist
with
those
calls.
However,
we
still
put
up
primarily
are
the
services
that
are
first
responders
to
those
particular
events
and
with
all
the
questions
around
this
particular
topic
and
we're
certainly
open
and
have
been
discussing
and
are
very
interested
in
partnering
with
the
county
moving
forward.
E
Lastly,
I'll
just
say
in
the
community:
caretaking
is,
you
know
we
respond
on
even
calls
of
persons
down
and
people
often
wonder
why
are
police
responding
when
someone
you
know
may
have
fallen
down
and
in
a
park
or
on
a
sidewalk
and
a
multitude
of
reasons?
We
do
have
first
aid,
the
FRIB
relators
and
as
well
as
narcan
that
we're
equipped
with,
but
we
also
have
an
investigative
component
to
ensure
that
there's
no
assault
or
other
incident
that
led
to
that,
as
well
as
providing
an
intervention.
E
The
real
intent
of
these
are
to
you
know,
manage
risk
and
also
establish
our
best
practices
and
provide
a
framework
for
organizational
discipline
and
those
really
involve
the
standards
of
how
we
operate,
ensuring
we
meet
expectations
and
compliance
with
our
policies
and
accountability.
We
invest
heavily
on
training,
something
to
think
about
with
how
we
approach.
That
is
what
we
call
risk
versus
frequency.
E
The
latest
revisions
to
this
policy.
We
did
in
January
of
2020,
and
this
was
the
result
of
SB
230
and
AV
392.
Those
were
laws
that
were
passed
signed
by
the
governor
last
September,
which
revamped
the
use
of
force,
laws
in
the
state
of
California,
really
a
state
more
state
of
the
the
art
of
contemporary
practices
as
a
model
for
the
United
States.
It
was
a
several
year
effort
involving
a
number
of
stakeholders
and
that
lots
of
effect
in
January
2020
and
we
were
expecting
additional
recommendations
from
post
along
the
lines
of
de-escalation.
E
So,
with
respect
to
those
one
of
the
recommendations
was
a
ban
on
chokeholds
and
carotid
restraints.
Well,
we
had
already
banned,
show
quotes,
carotid
restraints
were
allowed,
but
we
rescinded
that
as
a
acceptable,
defense
or
tore
use
of
force,
and
so
our
policy
currently
reflects
the
standard
of
no
choke
holds
or
carotid
restraints,
and
that's
reflected
both
in
the
Attorney
General
and
the
national
campaigns
models.
E
With
respect
to
escalation,
you
know
we
had
and
a
number
of
policies
refer
to
de-escalation,
it's
certainly
in
bread
and
our
training
and
our
protocols
and
practices.
But
we
also
took
the
initiative
with
this
modification
to
emphasize
de-escalation
as
a
component
of
consideration
and
formalize
it
within
the
practices
of
our
policies
on
use
of
force.
So
that's
consistent
with
both
the
national
campaigns,
as
well
as
the
Attorney
General's
Office
require
a
warning
before
shooting.
E
We
do
also
have
that
as
a
requirement,
we
initially
had
it
as
a
part
of
what
was
called
the
fleeing
felon
rule
if
someone's
running
but
poses
a
threat.
The
requirement
for
when
feasible,
providing
a
warning
was
specific
to
that.
We
broke
that
out
to
make
it
general
for
any
potential
use
of
deadly
force
and
just
a
word
on
where
feasible
and
questions
that
may
come
up
on
that.
So
you
know
if
we
have
an
individual
as
an
example,
we
had
a
case
a
few
years
ago
in
which
someone
was
armed
with
the.
C
E
It
down
to
their
side
and
was
not
pointing
it
at
the
officers.
You
know
that's
a
situation
which
feasibility
is
obviously
much
more
expected
and
reasonable
than
if
someone's
actually
pointing
the
firearm
at
the
police
officer-
and
you
know
a
fraction
of
a
second
can
make
the
difference
between
life
and
death
for
the
officer.
So
there
needs
to
be
consideration
based
on
both
state
law
and
our
recommendation
in
considering
feasibility
and
circumstances
in
which
a
warning
may
or
may
not
be
appropriate.
E
Warnings
for
less
lethal
force
is
recommended
through
the
Attorney
General.
This
is
not
specifically
mentioned
in
the
national
campaigns
we
do
have
in
various
policies,
such
as
with
tasers
and
other
less
lethal
devices,
in
which
warnings
will
be
given
with
a
general
statement
in
which,
when
less
lethal
force
is
to
be
applied,
that,
when
reasonable,
it's
provided
and
given
to
an
individual
as
well.
E
Exhausting
all
other
means
before
shooting
this
area
is
our
policy,
as
codified
by
law
and
the
verbage
very
similar
to
what
you
see
here
on
screen,
which
is
consistent
with
the
Attorney
General's
recommendation
as
well.
So
we
feel
by
spirit
and
even
a
letter
that
our
officers
are
required
to
consider
alternatives
prior
to
using
deadly
force.
E
Intervention
is
also
consistent
with
the
Attorney
General
and
the
national
campaigns.
This
was
existing
in
our
policy,
in
which
we
have
a
duty
to
intercede
and
to
report
any
unnecessary
use
or
excessive
use
of
force
bans
shooting
at
moving
vehicles.
The
national
campaigns
have
conflicting
approaches
to
this,
and
in
some
case
they
want
to
recommend
an
all-out
right
ban.
In
some
cases,
they've
adopted
model
policies
that
are
reflected
by
some
other
agencies
that
allow
officers
to
engage
in
the
event
and
occupant
and
the
vehicle
is
using
deadly
force
from
the
vehicle.
E
The
Attorney
General's
recommendation
is
consistent
with
allowing
officers
to
be
able
to
engage
the
occupants
of
the
vehicle
in
the
event
deadly
force
is
the
vehicle
or
firearm
is
being
used
against
a
member
of
the
public
or
the
officer
which
is
consistent
with
our
policy
as
well.
Deadly
force
is
only
authorized
when
there's
imminent
threat
of
death
or
serious
bodily
injury,
and
we
feel
it's
important
to
retain
this
flexibility.
E
If
you
recall
even
these
last
protests
in
San
Jose,
a
vehicle
was
heading
towards
protesters
or
the
incident
last
march
in
Sunnyvale
and
which
a
crime
occurred
with
the
person
who's
driving
a
vehicle
at
a
group
of
people.
If
officers
are
on
the
scene
of
a
similar
incident,
if
they're
not
able
to
engage
the
potential
for
for
death
or
serious
injury
cannot
be
prevented,
so
we
feel
that's
why
the
distinction
of
allowing
that
is
important
in
this
case
requiring
a
use
of
force
continuum.
The
Attorney
General
is
addressed
this
and
what
he
calls
proportionality.
E
The
use
of
force
continuum
is
a
mechanism
by
which
we
used
to
have
a
continuum
of
force
and
really
it
was
abolished,
based
on
the
concern
that
a
force
option
could
only
escalate
and
go
up.
So
we
have
a
number
of
parameters
in
which
officers
must
consider
various
conditions
in
which
appropriate
forces
is
used.
So
we
have
not
adopted
the
continuum
per
se
and
in
discussions
we
had
thought
about
potentially
a
matrix,
which
is
what
the
AG,
the
Attorney
General,
has
talked
about.
E
A
proportionality
but
I
feel
that
posts
with
their
imminent
release
of
guidelines
around
use
of
force
and
de-escalation,
which
they
anticipate
in
August,
will
likely
have
some
models
that
we
would
consider
so,
rather
than
making
multiple
changes
and
have
that
not
be
consistent
with
what
the
state
guidelines
are.
I
think
it's
a
prudent.
E
Evaluate
those
when
those
come
become
available,
comprehensive
reporting
and
we
do
as
a
part
of
our
reporting
requirements,
any
use
of
force
or
threat
of
force
against
document
and
our
police
reports.
We
do
a
in
annual
report
of
reportable
use
of
force,
which
is
categorized
by
the
various
force
options
that
are
used
and
report
on
that
to
the
public
through
our
annual
reporting.
We
also
comply
with
the
state's
requirements
to
report
any
use
of
force
that
results
in
death
or
serious
bodily
injury
last
year
is
you'll
see
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
E
Proportionality
is
what
the
Attorney
General's
discussion
is
regarding
using
that
force
proportional
to
the
resistance,
that's
more
of
the
continuum
from
the
national
campaigns,
and
we
do
have
a
significant
list
of
considerations.
Everything
from
the
size
of
the
officer
to
the
size
of
the
suspect,
seriousness
of
the
offense.
Any
weapons
that
are
involved,
there's
about
up
to
18
I,
think
points
of
consideration
that
we
identify
and
train
on
with
respect
to
proportionality.
E
These
are
our
use
of
force
statistics
for
twenty
nineteen.
Twenty
six
applications
of
force,
personal
weapons,
which
are
you
know,
fists
elbows
knees
feet,
are
used
eight
times
in
twenty
nineteen,
five
of
them,
resulting
in
no
injury.
Three
and
minor
injury.
We
had
eleven
instances
of
on
what's
called
uncontrolled
takedowns.
This
is
where
an
individual
would
be
forcibly
taken
to
the
ground
with
the
attempt
to
restrain
and
handcuff
and
those
resulted
in
five,
no
injuries
and
six
minor
injuries.
We
had
to
baton
uses
both
with
no
complaint
of
pain
or
visible
injury.
D
It
thinks
chief
cosell
I
think
that
before
we
have
subcommittee
questions,
what
we'll
do
is
open
it
up
for
a
public
comment.
So
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comments
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
and
I
I,
see
that
we
have
more
attendees
and
so
I
just
want
to
share
with
the
city
manager
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
our
meeting.
Is
will
be
doing
90
seconds
for
public
comment,
so
I'll
actually
look
to
mr.
Gaines.
D
H
Hi,
hello
council,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
hi
great
I,
just
really
wanted
to
come
on
today
and
address
the
fact.
The
presentations
from
the
police
chief,
while
very
I,
guess
heartening
seems
fairly
false
and
not
what
we've
heard
the
community
calling
for
in
the
past
couple
weeks.
You
knew
that
community
with
community
led
reform
and
not
the
police
during
what
they've
already
been
able
to
do.
H
I
also
want
to
emphasize
that
these
minor
changes
in
policy
while
they
claim
to
be
in
accordance
with
the
kind
of
calls
to
action
that
we've
been
seeing.
We
also
know
that
they
don't
seem
to
become
they
don't
seem
to
be
executed
properly.
Well,
the
police
chief
specifically
mentioned
already
having
the
duty
to
intervene.
Policy
I.
Think
I,
would
point
like
to
point
out.
H
Is
the
phrasing
of
shall
versus
should
I
think
we've
all
kind
of
been
through
grammar
I
know
all
of
you
most
likely
graduated
high
school
and
that
minor
change
basically
allows
an
officer
to
not
intervene
are
not
reported
if
they
don't
feel
that
they
have
to.
They
don't
feel
that
that's
what's
necessary
in
the
situation
and
not
to
me,
is
very
concerning
I
also
really
want
to
mention
the
point
that
we're
calling
for
community
led
reform.
It's
great
that
the
police
officers
have
gone
back
to
reflect,
but
that's
not
what
the
community
is
calling
for.
H
The
community
is
calling
for
Commission
through
the
HRC
to
revise
and
review
all
the
police
policies,
not
just
the
ones
that
are
being
called
for
all
of
them
in
their
broader
capacity
in
Council.
I
urge
you
to
listen
to
your
constituents.
I
urge
you
to
listen
to
your
people
and
reach
out
to
the
HRC
and
say
we'd
like
to
run
a
commission
working
with
citizens
to
action
addresses
issue
to
address
every
part
of
this
issue.
Instead
of
what
we're
already
doing.
Thank
you.
I
E
J
Guy
Eric
great
thanks
everyone
for
dedicating
your
time
to
this.
My
name
is
Brian.
I've
lived
in
Mountain
View
for
thirteen
years,
I've
never
been
really
deeply
involved
in
city
politics.
A
little
bit
with
the
school
board
is
all.
This
seems
like
a
really
important
topic.
I'm
grateful
that
MVC
Pro
has
helped
get
me
and
other
folks
involved.
That
said,
I'm
here
today,
mostly
to
listen
and
learn.
So
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
J
I
know
we
don't
know
exactly
what
changes
we
should
be
making
and
I
really
appreciate
that
everybody
from
the
city
has
emphasized
like
hey.
This
isn't
a
one
and
done
this
is
a
long-term
process,
and
so
we're
gonna
keep
making
changes
and
I
appreciate
that
I
do
think
we
should
be
moving
towards
less
policing,
particularly
for
young
people
and
vulnerable
populations.
It
just
seems
like
community
care
is
a
much
better
approach
in
terms
of
process.
J
I
do
think
it's
important
that
the
Human
Rights
Commission
lead
this
work,
I
I'm
sure
you've
all
seen
what
happened
in
Oakland
last
week
they
were
facing
calls
to
defund
the
police.
Their
City
Council
ended
up
rushing
through
a
budget
to
avoid
that
outcome,
even
folks
who
didn't
agree
with
the
call
to
defund
the
police
thought
it
was
a
really
bad
look
for
the
council
and
so
I
think,
because
this
involves
policing,
transparency
is
really
important
in
a
community.
Led
process
is
really
important,
so
I'm
hoping
you
all
will
endorse
that
approach.
Thanks.
K
Yeah
good
afternoon,
members
of
the
subcommittee
I'm
really
happy
that
we
are
actually
talking
about
this,
but
I
think
it
has
to
be
said
that
we,
that
with
what's
the
subcommittee,
has
been
doing
kind
of
its
laid
out
as
what
it's
doing
and
the
actions
the
police
department
has
taken
so
far
have
clearly
not
been
enough,
and
the
reforms,
as
proposed
I
is
discussed
by
Chief.
Basel
are
also
not
enough.
I
mean
we
even
with
our
implicit
bias,
training
in
Mountain
View.
K
There
are
more
racial
bias
in
arrests
and
deadly
and
useful
force
in
general
and
Mountain
View,
then
68%
of
other
police
departments.
That
means
Mountain
View
as
a
Police
Department
is
worse
than
68%
of
other
departments
in
terms
of
racial
bias,
and
this
has
been
an
issue
that
this
is
not
the
first
time
we're
talking
about
and
that
the
police
department
is
had
a
lot
of
time
to
solve
on
its
own.
K
So
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
allowing
this
process
to
stay
with
the
police
department
and
with
this
subcommittee
avoids
making
actual
changes
meaningful
changes,
which
is
something
that
we
can
actually
do
if
we
outsource
this
entire
process.
To
the
residents
of
Mountain
View
to
the
community,
so
that
is
why
we're
calling
for
a
independent
citizen-led
Commission
run
through
the
Human
Relations
Commission
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View,
to
fully
rethink
how
I
think
you're.
D
Done
in
Mountain
View,
thank
you.
Sorry,
I
think
your
time
is
up.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
mr.
Gaines,
for
keeping
time.
This
is
a
little
bit
different
with
the
subcommittee
and
fortunate.
We
don't
have
it
on
the
screen,
but
I
saw
his
waving
hands
all
right.
So
the
next
person
in
the
queue
I
see,
is
sarafina
Smith.
Please
feel
free
to
unmute
yourself,
hi.
D
L
Name
is
Sarafina,
I
am
born
and
raised
in
Mountain
View
and
I
graduated
from
Mountain
View
High
in
2016.
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
starting
the
subcommittee
subcommittee
and
I'm
glad
that
you're
already
looking
at
policies
for
it
can't
wait,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
discuss
the
broader
question
of
which
9-1-1
calls
really
need.
An
armed
officer.
L
Responding
non-emergency
calls
such
as
mental
health,
wellness
checks
and
homelessness
can
be
served
by
other
city
resources
trained
for
these
specific
purposes,
and
so
I
think
that
an
independent
citizen
committee
or
another
committee
should
identify
what
roles
can
best
meet
the
needs
of
each
type
of
non-emergency
or
mental
health
call
and
find
a
way
to
provide
those
through
social
workers,
train
city
workers
or
local
community
organizations,
and
also
like
to
request,
as
us
separate,
partially
separate
note
that
police
officers
be
removed
from
our
public
schools.
Thank
you.
M
Hi,
can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
great!
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
today
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
starting
a
subcommittee.
My
first
point
is
just
that
when
we
say
race,
equity
inclusion,
I
think
that
it
should
mean
not
only
improving
our
place
for
black
and
brown
communities,
but
also
making
sure
that
they
have
affordable
housing.
So
they
are
not
priced
out
amount
of
you
I
appreciate
all
this
conversation
around
policing,
but
for
this
subcommittee
to
really
do
what
its
title
implies.
M
I
think
we
need
to
also
consider
what
it
means
to
have
affordable
housing
with
an
Nam
view,
and
so
in
order
to
address
that
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
look
at
as
resolving
the
exclusionary
zoning
that
map
Mew
currently
has
single-family.
Zoning
currently
only
serves
to
make
my
view
more
exclusionary
and
is
directly
pushing
people
out
of
mountain
view.
M
My
third
point
is
that
I
think
it'd
be
important
for
us
to
look
into
pledging
to
have
any
functions
that
could
be
better
served
by
trans
City
staff
or
community
partners
answer
to
be
transferred
out
of
the
police
department.
So,
for
example,
this
would
include
having
trained
staff
respond
to
mental
health
calls
or
non-emergency
calls.
Domestic
violence
calls
or
calls
related
to
homelessness.
I
think
that
thank.
D
N
N
Six
years
later,
I
can
no
longer
count
the
number
of
murders
by
police
that
I've
seen
on
video
and
while
I'm
thankful
that
Mountain
View
has
not
yet
been
the
location
of
a
murder
like
this.
We
have
to
recognize
that
the
systems
here
in
Mountain
View
are
the
exact
same
systems
that
permit
this
violence
elsewhere.
If
the
rules
are
revealing
violence
and
trauma
across
our
country,
and
we
play
by
those
same
rules
here,
we
need
to
change
those
rules.
N
Furthermore,
toxic
policing
in
our
countries
upheld
by
a
culture
of
internal
review,
in
which
police
are
accountable
only
to
themselves,
and
we
need
a
deep
dive
in
order
to
deeply
understand
this,
with
accountability
in
the
hands
of
the
community.
So
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
subcommittee
for
your
demonstrated
interest
in
exploring
many
aspects
of
racism
in
our
community
like
affordable
housing
and
bias,
and
things
like
that
and
I'm
excited
to
learn
those
with
you.
N
But
I
want
to
be
clear
that
palta,
policing
specifically
deserves
its
own,
careful
attention
from
an
independent
commission
free
from
the
influence
of
the
police
union
as
NBC
per.
We
support.
You
broadly
investigating
racism
in
the
country,
and
we
call
on
you
to
authorize
the
HRC
to
lead
an
independent
commission
to
study
policing
more
specifically,
I'd
like
to
close
with
the
following
quote
from
Mickey
des
Russo,
which
says
that
evil
doesn't
triumphs
when
good
does
nothing.
N
O
Hi
there
can
you
guys
hear
me.
Yes,
awesome
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
very
much
to
Council
and
staff
and
chiefs
all
for
setting
this
up
in
a
timely
manner.
This
is
really
important
stuff.
We're
talking
about
well,
I
know
that
we
are
still
in
the
process
of
discovering
what
needs
to
be
done
and
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
do
those
things.
O
If
that
is
something
else
that
you
are
considering,
I'd
love
to
hear
about
your
thoughts
on
police
unions
and
what
kind
of
accountability
you
know
an
officer
would
have
in
terms
of
if
they
do
break
the
law,
if
they
do
do
something
that
they
should
not
be
doing
what
sort
of
justice
well
not
provel,
that's
one
of
my
main
questions.
Thank
you
so
much
for
doing
this
guys.
Let's
please
keep
this
going
and
you
know
we're
not
going
away.
This
is
something
we
care
deeply
about.
O
D
E
Yeah
the
Union
question
and
could
be
pretty
lengthy,
cuz.
It's
it's
very
different,
I
think
here
in
in
the
Bay
Area
in
California
in
terms
of
lynching.
Yes,
I
have
seen
those
proposals
I'm
a
political
by
nature,
but
clearly
support
anti
hate
crime
movement.
We
had
a
discussion
yesterday
with
a
number
of
stakeholders
around
nooses
and
whether
that
should
be
outlawed
as
a
hate
symbol,
as
mentioned
by
Reverend
Moore
from
the
n-double-a-cp,
so
I
think
all
those
are
very
valid
discussions
in
this
point
really
a
opportunity
and
I
fully
support
those
dialogue.
P
Q
So
when
I
listened
the
other
night
to
the
City
Council
and
heard
people
complaining
about
the
police,
my
antenna
went
up
and
the
people
who
were
complaining-
many
of
them
had
experiences
because
or
maybe
just
adjoining
the
fact
that
they
were
people
of
color
even
lightly
of
color.
So
I
think
we
have
to
take
a
look
at
what's
going
on
and
look
at
individual
incidences
and
perhaps
maybe
find
the
few
people
who
are
taking
advantage
of
their
position
of
power.
I
think
this
is
what's
what
would
be
most
important
to
me.
D
R
And
so,
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
you
mentioned
the
desire
to
take
as
long
as
necessary
to
do
this
right,
which
was
encouraging,
because
this
is
a
gnarly
gnarly
issue
and
it'll
take
some
time,
but
then
to
pose.
I
mentioned
all
the
things
that
have
already
been
done
and
the
implications
seem
to
be
that
we've
already
done
so
much
that
we
don't
need
to
do
more.
I
hope
that
wasn't
the
intention
is.
There
certainly
want
to
be
done
and
I'm
eager
to
see
what
a
citizen
led
initiative
would
bring
forward.
R
No
one's
fully
capable
of
reflecting
on
their
own
behavior
and
policies
and
I
don't
hold
this
natural
human
failing
against
the
police,
which
is
why
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
citizen
led
initiative.
I
separate
from
the
processes
that
are
currently
being
engaged
in,
and
it
sounds
like
that
she
was
open
to
working
with
the
community
and
I
hope.
R
S
They
also
can
serve
as
positive
reinforcements
to
children
of
color
and
children,
who
are
under-resourced
and
I.
Think
it's
important
that
everybody
remember
that
when
you
think
about
school
resource
officers
and
officers
being
on
the
street
in
the
community,
it's
not
just
that
they
do
a
lot
of
great
work.
Please
athletically
being
one
of
them,
so
I'm
not
just
going
to
make
that
today.
Vicki.
D
T
D
D
V
V
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
this
through
and
see
the
actions
taken
by
the
subcommittee
I.
Think
community
led
reform
would
put
more
trust
in
our
Police
Department
and
our
Mountain
View
government.
So
I
am
asking
you
once
again
to
use
the
HRC
for
what
they
were
hired
for
and
authorize
them
to
lead.
The
conversation
about
policing
and
Public
Safety
well,
thank
you
great.
D
W
Apologize
for
that,
but
again,
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
this
important
work
today.
Thank
you
to
the
council,
members
to
staff
and
the
chief
ozell
for
speaking
up
and
thank
you
to
the
public
for
so
much
interest
in
this
really
important
topic.
I
might
a
rose
Sylvester,
chair
of
the
Human
Relations,
Commission
or
HRC.
We
are
deeply
committed
to
issues
of
race,
equity
and
inclusion
at
our
last
cleaning,
the
HRC
created
work
plan
item
two
specifically
focused
on
supporting
MVPD
and
the
community.
W
We
believe
our
experience
listening
to
and
convening
our
community
and
conducting
research
that
supports
public
policy
will
be
very
useful.
The
subcommittee
based
on
the
discussion
we
had
that
night,
including
the
one
we
have
with
MV
BT
MVPD
and
hearing
public
input.
We
agreed
that
a
listening
forum
where
members
of
the
community
and
the
MVPD
could
start
a
dialogue,
focus
not
so
much
on
policy
ideas,
but
focus
on
a
supportive
storytelling
atmosphere
for
both
the
community
and
the
police
could
tell
stories
about
their
experiences
with
each
other.
We
have
held
countless
forms
like
the
years.
S
W
Broadly,
we
saw
this
work
as
a
foundation
for
it
a
larger
input
process
over
a
longer
term.
With
the
goal
of
supporting
the
subcommittee
ideas
we
had
bounced
around,
including
working
with
stakeholders,
community
stakeholders
like
the
CSA,
various
community
group
and
others,
conducting
surveys,
surveys
having
and
for
focus,
group
style
dialogues
with
community
members
and
other
ideas.
We
have
a
very
long
track
record
of
this
research
as
seen
enough
in
our
lbgtq
and
immigrants
needs
and
assets.
Work
I
see
the
agency
serving
as
a
convener
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
D
Great
Thank
You
Ida
Rose
your
time
was
up,
but
you
were
on
a
roll.
So
thank
you
for
your
public
comment
and,
if
you
don't
mind
just
muting
yourself
and
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
individual
perfect.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next,
in
the
queue
I
see,
Francisco
look
Jolla,
please
feel
free
to
unmute
yourself,
Francisco.
X
Looking
you
hear
me,
yes,
greetings
to
all
my
name
is
Francisco
show
an
interest
of
time.
I'm
gonna
start
off
a
couple
of
questions.
I
have
for
chief
bozo,
she,
whose
last
time
this
shot
was
fired
by
Mountain
View
and
what
was
the
reason
the
outcome
and
is
that
information
available
for
citizens
to
view
also
for
mental
health
calls
when
someone
gets
transported
by
the
PD,
our
handcuffs
assessed
as
being
necessary,
or
is
that
SOP
handcuffs
lend
an
element
to
criminality
elements
of
criminality
to
mental
illnesses?
Why
I
asked
the
other
thing
is?
X
Can
we
replace
when
we
look
at
replacing
police
at
schools
with
mental
health
counselors?
It
seems
it
would
be
more
effective.
In
any
event,
my
name
is
Francisco
Chawla
I'm
a
30
year
38
year,
Mountain
View
resident
I'm,
a
veteran
Mexican
ethnicity,
member
of
the
community,
emergency
response,
team,
cert
and
I
participate
in
the
past
three
presidential
election
system
volunteer
for
the
DNC
and
the
small
business
owner
here
in
Mountain
View
and
yes,
I
have
been
the
subject
of
excessive
force
by
MVPD.
X
So
this
is
a
matter
very
close
to
my
heart,
as
it
has
at
times
caused
much
stress
in
my
life
on
the
courage
by
the
attention
the
city
of
subcommittee
is
giving
to
this
issue.
I
am
optimistic
that
Mountain
View
will
move
forward
in
the
very
progressive
manner
and
hope
they
will
work
with
the
HRC.
While
I
would
not
like
to
live
in
a
community
without
police
force,
it
would
be
good
to
have
police
who
are
truly
interested
in
serving
the
public
in
a
manner
which
befits
the
scope
of
their
jobs.
X
D
E
I'll
get
back
to
them.
The
last
time
lethal
force
was
used
or
shot
was
fired,
was
in
a
lethal
force
situation,
I
think
it's
been
20
years
in
terms
of
handcuffs.
There
are
reasons
for
the
standard
operating
procedures
around
that
I
can
provide
some
examples
and
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
them.
On
his
third
question,
which
is
a
complex
one,.
Y
D
Thank
you
and
just
I,
think
for
folks
who
are
giving
public
comment
to
know
we're
taking
notes
on
all
the
questions
that
are
being
asked
so
that
we
can
follow
up
on
those
questions
and
we're
not
able
to
answer
in
real
time
all
right,
I'd
like
to
continue
with
public
comment
and
I
see
Anand
how
to
TN
gaudÃ.
If
you
want
to
unmute
yourself,
please.
Z
Hi
I'm,
John,
Gotti,
I'm,
a-gonna,
Mountain
View
resident
for
18
years
appreciate
the
statements
without
the
use
of
force
and
the
changes
that
have
been
made
around
the
use
of
force.
One
of
the
things
I
read
about
Camden
with
us,
which
has
been
in
the
news
recently
for
effectively
changing
their
department,
was
that
they
put
in
place
really
clear
rules
around
what
happens
when
a
police
officer
does
something
that
contravenes
the
the
rules
that
are
on
the
use
of
force.
Z
I
noticed
that
our
use
of
force
guidelines
are
somewhat
vague
on
the
topic
so
I
was
I
was
hoping
that
he
could
clarify
what
happens
when
someone
doesn't,
and
has
this
actually
happened?
Have
we,
as
a
police
officer,
been
found
to
have
contravene
the
use
of
force
rules?
Because
if
that
that
never
happens
it,
it
might
be
an
indication
that
there's
a
loophole
and
then
the
the
use
of
force
rules
are
less
meaningful.
Y
Z
E
AA
A
high
school
student
Matthew
for
nearly
mind
her
life
I
appreciate
the
steps
MEP
tmv
PD
has
taken
to
your
form
and
I'm,
not
interested
in
attacking
the
character
of
our
officers
or
chief
Boswell
I'm
sure
you
love
the
city
as
much
as
I
do,
but
Mountain
View
should
strive
to
be
the
best
policing.
Oversight
should
not
be
led
by
the
police
or
by
the
City
Council
for
that
matter.
That
is
a
recipe
for
disaster
somewhere
down
the
line.
AA
We
all
have
the
best
intentions,
so
it's
about
choosing
the
system
that
best
keeps
us
safe
and
best
makes
placing
fair
I
know
we're
all
scared,
there's
the
scary
time
to
be
living
in,
but
for
many
households,
particularly
households
of
color,
including
mine
parents,
teach
with
kids
to
do
what
every
police
officer
says
out
of
fear
of
a
life-threatening
outcome.
So
action
is
needed
and
brought
action
as
many
members
of
the
Coalition
for
policing
reform.
Accountability
have
already
suggested.
Let's
get
this
right.
AA
Let's
have
the
Human
Relations
Commission,
take
the
lead
and
most
crucially
incorporate
the
voices
of
citizens
who
have
been
most
affected
by
policing.
We
know
that
we're
trying
our
best,
but
it's
not
about
personally
what
the
police
is
doing.
It's
about
this
system
that
we
choose
to
make
Matthew
safe
for
everyone.
Thank
you.
AB
Hi
I'm,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
yes,
I.
This
is
Megan
Fraley
and
Mountain
View
resident
clinical
psychologist
I
wanted
to
first
say
congratulations
to
max
close
L
for
his
retirement
and
I
genuinely
mean
that
this
is
quite.
This
is
quite
a
time
to
be
retiring
and
Berkeley
and
Mountain
View
are
known
throughout
a
throughout
the
Bay
Area
for
having
two
of
the
most
model.
AB
Police
Department's
and
I
want
to
really
honor
that
and
say
as
much
as
I
am
an
activist
I
just
want
I
want
to
be
clear
that
even
as
someone
who
is
standing
for
police
reform,
I
am
very
much
recognized
that
Mountain
View
actually
has
been
a
model,
and
so
congratulations
genuinely
and
I
hope
that
you
get
to
celebrate.
I
am
concerned
about
the
process
I
in
terms
of
the
this
subcommittee.
I
would
just
like
to
understand
more
how
what
is
worked
on.
It
becomes
determined,
Thank,
You,
Melvin
and
I.
AB
Think
research
with
a
questionnaire
or
survey
around.
What
are
the
main
issues
in
terms
of
race
that
the
community
wants
to
be
addressed
would
be
a
better
strategy
than
picking
a
few
things
ahead
of
time.
I
certainly
support
the
coalition
call
for
the
separate
Commission,
but
I
think
the
biggest
issue
structurally
in
terms
of
racism
in
our
city
is
housing
policy
and
the
huge
massive
displacement
we've
seen
of
the
Latin
X
population.
So
I
hope
that
looking
at
rent
control
and
displacement
is
part
of
the
subcommittee.
Thank
you.
L
My
name
is
Ana
Zeiger
I
was
born
in
and
have
lived
in,
Mountain
View
since
2004.
One
reason
I
care
about
examining
public
safety
in
Mountain
View
is
that
I
believe
in
the
power
of
community
I
would
like
to
share
the
words
from
a
couple
of
posters
created
by
Luna
Sinai.
That
helped
me
think
more
deeply
about
public
safety.
Some
folks
are
sleeping
on
benches
in
the
park.
Imagine
a
city
employee
comes
by
and
checks
in
to
see
if
they
need
a
place
to
sleep,
food,
water
or
healthcare.
An
hour
later.
L
Those
who
want
a
different
place
to
sleep,
one
isn't
that
public
safety,
someone
is
behaving
erratically
and
in
harm's
way
imagine
texting
a
number
and
an
unarmed,
urgent,
responder
trained
in
behavioral
and
mental
health
comes
within
five
minutes
an
hour
later.
That
person
is
safe
and
getting
the
support.
They
need
isn't
that
public
safety
you
are
experiencing
intimate
partner,
violence,
imagine
texting
a
number
and
a
trauma-informed
crisis.
Intervention
specialist
meets
you
in
a
safe
place.
An
hour
later.
You
are
working
together
to
make
a
plan
that
will
help
keep
you
safe
long
term.
L
Isn't
that
public
safety?
You
don't
realize,
but
your
break
lights
aren't
working.
Imagine
a
city,
employee
signals
for
you
to
pull
over
and
says
hey
how
about
I,
replace
those
lights
for
you
right
here.
So
no
one
gets
hurt
an
hour
later,
both
lights
work
in
your
home,
isn't
that
public
safety?
If
you
were
to
ask
me
how
I'm
feeling
right
now,
I'd
tell
you
two
things
grateful
I'm
committed.
D
D
AC
G
D
AD
Also,
the
subcommittee
I
know
addressing
these
challenging
and
sensitive
topics
they're
hard
I.
Do
you
want
to
highlight
you
know
the
police
department?
They
have
really
championed
21st
century
policing,
and
they
even
did
this
before
the
task
force
in
2014
kind
of
helps
us
to
get
a
historical
perspective
on
what
they
have
done.
They've
done
community
based
policing,
thousands
school
resource
officers
in
in
the
schools
and
Mountain
View.
These
positions
are
very
highly
valued.
AD
They
they're
asked
by
the
schools
they're
asked
by
the
families
they're
they
foster
relationships
with
use,
yeah
really,
ultimately
deter
them
from
criminal
activity
right.
So
that's
what
the
purpose
of
the
pal
programs
and
after-school
mentoring
and
boxing-
and
you
know
all
the
wonderful
things
that
these
volunteers
do
so
I
really
want
to
commend
the
police
department
for
doing
that.
AD
A
Mayor
if
I
may
I
noticed,
there's
only
20
minutes
left
in
the
median
and
the
subcommittee
hasn't
been
able
to
get
to
the
agenda
yet
so
if
I
could
make
a
suggestion,
I
see
that
there's
four
hands
raised
and
I
would
suggest
that
we
give
anyone
who
has
joined
past
Maya,
Jill,
Nina,
Julie
and
Maya
one
minute
for
public
comment
and
any
hands
that
are
raised
after
that
I
think
be
email.
Then
I
think
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
subcommittee
can
at
least
talk
and
get
through
the
agenda.
A
D
And
I
I
see
that
someone
just
raised
their
hand,
so
I
think.
If
we
can,
if
we
do
60
seconds
and
then
we
can
include
Anthony
and
then
that's
it,
then
everybody
will
so
we'll
stop
the
public
comment
there.
My
colleague
is
amenable
to
that
I
see
some
heads
nodding:
okay,
great
all
right,
so
we're
moving
on
public
comment
to
60
seconds
and
Jill.
Please
feel
free
to
unmute
yourself,
I.
P
Guess
I
got
to
go
fast,
Jill
breaks,
draw
21
year
resident
of
Mount
View
I've
had
both
positive
and
negative
interactions
with
the
MVPD
and
although
I
still
rely
on
them,
it's
always
with
hesitation
what
happened?
My
family
must
remain
confidential,
but
it
caused
incredible
pain
and
destruction
once
it
was
resolved
and
I
wanted
to
share
my
story
and
file
a
complaint
with
the
police
department.
I
didn't
find
an
avenue
that
wasn't
outside
the
police
department.
P
I
felt
like
the
only
place
I
could
go
was
the
place
I
wanted
to
complain
about
later,
when
an
SRO
put
her
hand
on
her
phone
in
front
of
my
child
on
our
school
campus,
I
chose
to
tell
my
story
or
Facebook,
because
I
felt
that
was
the
only
way
I
was
going
to
be
heard.
I
would
like
to
see
an
outside
police
auditor
or
Ombudsman,
so
residents
feel
comfortable
telling
their
stories
Thank.
AC
Five
stars,
if
that
rating
was
based
on
my
own
experience,
but
this
exact
money
thinking
is
what
summit
issues
to
process
so
I
think
that
is
so
important
to
elevate
other
voices
affecting
that
police,
especially
those
of
negative
experiences
and
take
them
seriously
instead
of
nodding
along
and
a
zoom
meeting
and
treating
these
incidences
as
an
exception.
So
I
think
that
this
could
best
you
facilitated
through
a
citizen
life
to
mitigate
in
conjunction
with
HRC
Joe,
examined
police
to
permit
any
major
city
safer
for
everyone.
Thanks.
AE
AE
Thank
you
for
holding
this
meeting.
Thank
you
to
the
public
for
your
comments.
I
just
want
to
say
very
quickly
that
I
look
forward
to
helping
to
facilitate
further
dialogue
between
the
public
and
the
police
through
the
HRC
and
also
on
collaborating
to
collect,
share
data
that
can
help
to
support
that
dialogue
and
also
inform
policy
change.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
D
T
F
F
I
know
the
rules,
I
ride,
my
bike,
all
over
this
town,
I've
been
here
for
over
a
decade
and
I,
think
it's
really
important
that
we
we
start
to
look
at
who's
actually
having
these
interactions
and
what
kind
of
outcomes
in
order
to
make
people
feel
safe.
I
I,
don't
feel
safe
most
of
the
time
and
that's
really
a
fun.
It's.
You
know
it's
kind
of
sad
Thank.
Y
So,
I'm
glad
that
the
police
department
is
implementing
changes
based
on
II,
can't
wait
and
the
Attorney
General's
recommendations,
but
I
still
think
we
need
to
take
a
bigger
look
at
how
a
public
public
safety
system
should
work.
As
a
former
MPLA
student
I'd
like
to
call
for
all
police
officers
to
be
removed
from
schools,
I
know
based
on
discussions
with
fellow
students,
Latino
X
students,
in
particular,
felt
like
they
were
buted
suspicion
and
students
need
to
feel
safe
in
their
own
schools.
Y
We
need
to
stop
treating
young
people
as
threats
and
see
them
as
vulnerable
people
if
they're
acting
out
or
they're
seen
as
acting
out,
but
they
probably
need
is
more
support.
I
like
school
or
resource
officers
in
the
future,
to
not
be
law
enforcement,
but
instead
social
workers,
mental
professionals,
I
think.
We
know
that
our
community
really
needs
that
for
young
people
right
now
and
like
police
officers
may
be
well
intentioned
as
resource
officers,
but
the
person
that
students
are
reaching
out
to
can't
be
a
person
who
has
the
power
to
put
them
in
jail.
D
Your
time,
heals
you're
working
with
your
time
is
up.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
at
this
time,
I
would
like
to
close
public
comment
and
bring
it
back
to
the
subcommittee
for
discussion.
I
know
that
we
have
a
little
less
than
a
15.
We
have
13
minutes
left
for
scheduled
time.
Councilmember
Ramirez.
C
Thank
you
share
command.
I'll
do
my
best
to
be
brief.
So,
first
in
responding
to
some
of
the
public
comments,
I
felt
that
for
some
members
of
the
public
there's
a
presumption
of
a
predetermined
outcome
and
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
assure
the
public
that
we
didn't
come
in
with
a
preconceived
notion
of
what
a
solution
is
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
iterative
process
and
I.
Think
the
the
presentation
from
the
police
chief
at
the
beginning
was
just
a
starting
point.
C
C
So
the
start
of
a
much
longer
conversation
and
that's
not
the
end
and
I-
think
it's
important
also
to
mention
that
we
haven't
yet
determined
the
the
mission
or
the
scope
of
work
of
the
subcommittee
and
I
think
that's
part
of
what
part
of
the
intention
of
this
meeting.
We
can
help
provide
some
definition
and
if
the
needs
that
evolve,
you
know
over
time,
then
that's
that's,
certainly
something
that
that
we
can
discuss.
I
like
the
idea
of
integrating
our
work
with
the
work
plan
item
in
the
Human
Relations
Commission.
C
But
the
chair,
chair,
Sylvester,
provided
a
good
sort
of
baseline
expectation
of
what
the
HRC
is
working
on,
so
that
could
serve
as
a
very
important
platform
for
public
participation
and
data
collection,
sort
of
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
share
stories
and
and
provide
you
know
a
more
in-depth
conversation
about
in
this
case,
sort
of
police
policies
and
practices.
So
I
think
that
that
can
serve
nicely
as
a
complement
to
other
public
participation
opportunities
for
input
that
we've
already
been
doing
and
cheap
results.
C
If
you
wouldn't
mind
commenting
also
on
any
formal
or
informal
opportunities
that
have
I've
sowed,
for
instance,
there
was
the
town
hall
or
the
the
forum
recently
with
I.
Think
the
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
is
the
Mandarin
speaking
community.
So
I
know
that
this
was
an
issue
that
was
discussed
there.
That
I
think
also
is
important
for
us
to
be
aware
of
that.
C
There's
there's
a
continuous
outreach
occurring,
and
it's
not
always
something
that
this
subcommittee
is
participating
in,
but
but
MVPD
has
been
doing,
some
outreach,
already,
informally
and
so
between
the
work
that
we're
doing
we
worked
at
the
HRC
is
doing
other
opportunities
for
formal
and
informal
participation.
I
think
we'll
have
a
very
good
grasp
of
what
many
different
stakeholder
groups
and
the
community
has
to
say
about
this
topic
and
I.
C
C
Some
of
the
things
that
I
know,
staff
has
already
mentioned-
include
the
alternative
service
delivery
models
very
interested
in
seeing
what
comes
out
of
that,
we
can
look
at
what
kind
of
accountability
mechanisms
are
appropriate
things
that
we
can
explore
and
realm
there's
a
few
other
things
that
have
been
shared
through
email
to
think
other
other
public
input.
We've
received
disability
inclusion
and
that's
not
just
sort
of
accessibility,
but
also
you
know.
If
there's
you
know
beyond
race,
there
are
other
challenges
that
some
folks
brought
up.
C
You
know
mental
health
for
instance,
but
it
there's
somebody
with
the
developmental
disability.
They
may
not
know
how
to
interact
with
you
know
with
law
enforcement
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
something
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
as
well,
so
so
again,
sort
of
the
broader
focus
on
how
do
we
make
sure
that
everyone
is
safe
and
that
we
have
law
enforcement?
That's
that's
appropriate
and
responsive
to
to
a
given
situation.
C
One
final
thing
on
this
note:
there's
been
a
lot
of
attention
paid
to
the
budget
and
I.
Think
a
big,
an
important
component
of
this
work
is
making
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
there
to
be
some
kind
of
forum
or
opportunity
for
for
there
to
be
a
more
in-depth
breakdown
of
the
of
the
budget
of
the
police
budget
in
particular.
Just
so,
everybody
understands
exactly
how
it
works.
I
I
feel
like
not.
C
Finally,
some
folks
in
the
community
brought
up
land
use
and
equity
in
in
that
space,
city
manager
and
I,
and-
and
maybe
maybe
other
members
of
the
subcommittee
I'm
not
really
sure,
were
in
the
this
presentation
recently
about
home
ownership
and
sort
of
the
historical
redlining
practices.
The
racism
that
a
systemic
racism
that
prevented
a
Unity's
of
color
from
getting
into
the
ownership
market
and
depriving
them
of
opportunities
to
build
intergenerational
wealth
and
those
kinds
of
presentations,
I
think,
will
be
very
helpful
for
us
as
well.
C
You
know
I
agree
with
the
members
of
the
public
who
implored
us
to
go
beyond
just
police
practices.
That's
important,
I
think,
there's
there's
that's
absolutely
something
that
we
intend
to
to
address
and
look
into,
but
there
are
other
forms
of
inequity
that
I
think
we
have
a
great
opportunity
to
address
as
well
and
land
use
and
zoning
would
be
high
in
my
list
of
priorities.
Just
finally
I
think
opportunity
to
meaningfully
engage
our
non-english-speaking
communities
who
may
not
be
able
to
participate
in
this
kind
of
format
as
easily
are
important.
C
So
I
appreciate
the
the
Town
Hall
I.
Forgive
me
if
that's
not
quite
what
it
was,
but
there
was
an
opportunity
for
for
the
Chinese
speaking
community
I.
Think
that
provides
some
some
input
into
to
weigh
in
on
this
and
I
think
that's
a
good
thing
to
replicate
for
other
communities
and
to
just
make
sure
that
we're
out
there
and
soliciting
input
from
from
all
of
the
communities
and
in
the
city
that
I
think
would
benefit
from
this
conversation.
So
those
are
remarks
my
mom
I
realize
thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
and
I
actually
think
customers
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
organize
my
thoughts
and
I.
Have
many
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
time,
but
I
think
you
hope
that
and
I
guess
I
just
started
off
as
saying
that
over
the
last
several
weeks,
I
been
attempting
to
go
on
a
listening
tour.
So
after
our
town-hall
meeting
and
I
had
you
know
had
said,
I
was
happy
to
meet
with
folks.
I
had
a
lot
of
takers
and
so
a
lot
of
different
thoughts.
B
B
It
would
be
important
for
us
to
understand
what
the
priority
of
the
community
priorities
of
the
community
is
regarding
public
participation
and
thank
you
for
to
the
HRC
members
who
joined
us
today
and
as
well
as
your
conversations
at
your
Commission
meetings
about
your
taking
the
lead
and
I
do
think
that
doing
the
public
engagement
would
be
ideal.
I
appreciate
the
listening
forum,
concepts
and
I
is
thinking
about
how
it
would
be
really.
It
would
be
really
helpful,
I
think
for
us
to
hear
from
residents
their
stories
or
their
experience.
B
You
know,
what's
what
is
it
like
for
them
to
live
in
Mountain,
View
and
folks
from
all
different
backgrounds?
So
that
would
be
one
idea
of
like
a
piano
or
perhaps
other
thoughts.
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
policing
in
schools
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
I
know
the
chief
in
our
superintendent
Rudolph
has
been
in
conversation,
but
I
hope
that
we
can
maybe
put
something
on
soon
about
that
issue.
B
I
would
also
like
to
appreciate
councilor
Ramirez,
your
comments
about
redlining
and
land
use
and-
and
you
know,
I
serve
on
the
Air
Quality
Management
District,
and
we
talk
about
environmental
issues
and
how
you
don't
have
it
as
much
here
in
the
South
Bay,
but
in
other
parts
of
the
Bay
Area.
You
know
where
the
refineries
are
tend
to
be
where
the
lower
income
communities
of
color
live,
and
so
it's
been
very
educational
for
me
to
understand
that
historic.
B
That
crayon
is
how
this
is
all
coming
to
come
about,
and
perhaps
those
would
be
interesting
topics
for
our
community
to
also
engage
in
I.
Think
when
we
talk
about
policies
and-
and
so
this
is
I
will
get
to
the
police
issue,
but
there
are
other
areas
that
I
would
like
us
to
focus
on.
We
have
engaged
in
the
youth
mental
health
services
topic
as
a
council
goal,
and
we've
been
working
through
that
with
the
youth
subcommittee,
but
I
think
we
could
perhaps
expand
that
or
connect
it
to
this
other.
B
These
other
topics
around
mental
health.
You
know
mental
health
first
responders.
This
is
something
that
I'm
learning
that
some
pieces
about
I
want
to
call.
As
you
know,
on
Saturdays
with
the
county,
the
mayor's
have
a
phone
call
and
we
started
to
touch
on
the
topic.
My
understanding
is
there
actually
is
a
pilot
program
at
San,
Jose,
Police,
Department,
a
mobile
crisis
van
model.
It's
a
pilot
program,
that's
being
used
being
I,
guess
the
first
responders
mental
behavioral
health
providers
go
out
as
first
responders
with
paramedic
auntie's,
but
they
had
mentioned
that.
B
The
challenge
right
now
is
that
they're
having
trouble
getting
mental
health
specialists
who
want
to
work
a
24/7
type
of
schedule,
and
so
that's
the
challenge
right
now.
They
would
like
to
expand
the
program
to
beyond
San
Jose,
but
it's
a
staffing
issue
right
now,
so
I
think
these
are
things
that
we
should
explore,
but
we
will
need
to
engage
with
the
county
and
our
other
neighboring
cities
to
see
what
a
model
could
look
like.
B
So
that's
I
think
more
policy
related,
I
I
couldn't
equity
based
budgeting
I
know
the
three
of
us
and
you
know
I.
When
I
created
this
committee
I
was
very
intentional
and
in
the
membership
the
three
of
us
have
signed
on
to
the
equity
pledge
that
the
county
the
county
has
put
out,
and
so
I
think
we
can
definitely
look
at
you
know:
equity
based
budgeting,
hiring
practices
and
contracting
we've
received
some
emails
about
that,
and
I'm
not
sure
I
mean
I'd
like
to
understand
better
with
our
do.
B
We
have
you
know,
light
as
and
I
know,
ACA
v
is
coming
back,
but
do
we
have?
Are
we
allowed
to
have
preferences
for
minority
or
women-owned
businesses
at
this
time?
What
does
that
look
like?
And
you
know
how
can
that
change
of
ACA
v
passes
in
November
and
then
the
other
area
I
like
actually
going
back
to
community-based,
so
I've
also
been
visiting
our
Commission's
and
our
advisory
boards,
and
some
of
the
ideas
that
came
up
was
like
black
lives
matter.
B
Art
exhibit
a
poetry,
slam
and
so
I
think
that
our
Advisory
Commission's
could
take
part
in
those
types
of
activities.
But
finally,
in
Taiwan,
of
course
address
the
issue
of
police
relations
and
I
been
thinking
about.
You
know
what
we
could
do
looking
at
various
models.
I
want
to
thank
actually
mr.
Frank
was
on
the
call.
He
actually
provided
me
with
some
information
about
police
Community,
Relations
Council,
that
is
his
father,
started
in
Florida
and
it's
it
Florida
I'm,
looking
at
the
bylaws
and
whatnot,
but
I
think
there
could
be
a
model
where
it's.
B
You
know
this
type
of
relationship
with
members
of
the
public
and
are
you
know,
police
staff
working
together
and
looking
at
best
practices?
It
would
be
educational
from
both
ends
and
I
think
in
getting
community
input,
but
also
being
able
to
educate
the
community
about.
You
know
what
our
police
practices
are,
and
so
I
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
could
explore
something
like
this
model.
B
D
D
D
I
am
and
I
think
something
both
the
mayor
and
councilmember
rares
Foca,
which
is
I
agree
with
coming
into
the
ad
hoc
subcommittee
without
agenda
I,
think
we
are
all
open
and
wanting
to
use
this
ad
hoc
subcommittee
to
find
what's
best
for
the
community
and
to
use
it
as
I
open
a
public
forum.
I.
Think
for
me,
high-level
one
of
the
things
I
like
to
touch
on
is
kind
of
the
process
for
the
subcommittee
going
forward.
D
This
is
the
first
step
we're
gonna,
be
using
these
couple
months
to
dig
into
some
of
the
topics
that
were
mentioned
throughout
this
meeting
and
then
come
back
to
to
Council
to
have
a
full
and
robust
discussion
and
then
I
think
in
terms
of
scope.
Both
of
my
colleagues
have
been
talking
about
kind
of
the
different
areas
they'd
like
to
dig
into
I.
Think
for
myself.
One
of
the
things
that
stands
out
is
transparency
kind
of
across
across
the
board.
D
I
do
believe
that
we
need
to
have
more
I,
think
its
outreach,
but
it's
also
opportunities
for
community
engagement
on
the
budget
and
I
agree
with
the
mayor
in
terms
of
looking
at
equity
based
budgeting
and
trying
to
see
more
clearly
how
our
dollars
are
being
spent
and
then
for
the
different
community
members
for
us
to
kind
of
have
that
readily
available.
I
think
many
kind
of
cities
throughout
the
Bay
Area
kind
of
have
that
information
that
they
get
from
their
3-1-1
or
in
working
with
the
county
or
through
their
senses.
D
Please
fill
out
your
census
and,
and
that
helps
inform
these
really
large
policy
decisions,
as
we
mentioned
in
terms
of
housing
policy,
I
would
even
say
in
our
transportation
in
in
our
bike
and
infrastructure.
Right
mayor
talked
about
air
quality,
I,
think
that
goes
hand-in-hand
with
transportation
and
and
mr.
Panetta
mentioned
being
stopped
for
riding
his
bicycle,
for
trying
to
encourage
people
to
walk
and
bike.
D
A
You
vice
mayor
Khmer,
yes,
I,
think
so.
There's
a
lot
of
items
that
I
think
we
have
interest
in
exploring
not
only
with
the
HRC
but
just
in
general,
a
lot
of
ideas
and
activities
that
we
need
to
basically
just
take
some
time
to
dig
into
further.
So
I
think
what
the
best
thing
to
do
is
for
staff
to
put
a
work
plan
together
and
think
through
the
timing
of
these
items,
some
of
the
things
I
think
at
least
working
with
HRC
in
terms
of
the
the
listening
or
the
forums.
A
I
think
we
can
think
through
those
over
the
next
few
months
and
possibly
have
events
in
those
in
the
next
few
months.
Some
of
the
items
we
need
to
look
at
over
the
course
of
the
next
fiscal
year,
and
maybe
even
beyond
that,
just
thinking
through
how
long
things
might
take
so
I
think.
The
next
step
is
to
probably
have
a
meeting
of
the
subcommittee
in
a
couple
months,
give
staff
some
time
to
put
the
work
plan
together
to
do
these
listening
sessions,
the
forums
working
with
the
HRC.
Q
A
D
C
C
E
B
Thank
you
just
in
regards
to
the
timeline.
My
hope
is
that
we
could
have
a
meet
at
least
once
more
before
we
go
back
to
council
sessions
at
the
end
of
August,
so
so
that
we
could
have
a
little
bit
more
conversation
and
start
to
shape
some
of
our
recommendations
to
the
full
council.
So
if
that's
possible,
I
would
appreciate
it
thanks.
D
D
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on
to
item
5,
which
is
the
subcommittee
staff,
comments,
questions
and
subcommittee
reports,
I
think
we've
kind
of
tackled
a
bit
of
that
with
regards
to
the
timeline,
unless
anyone
else
has
anything
to
add
all
right,
so
I
would
like
to
move
on
to
item
6,
which
is
adjournment,
and
this
meeting
is
adjourned
at
5:44
p.m.
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank.