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Live teleconference of the City of Mountain View Planning Commission Meeting scheduled for Wednesday, June 1 2022.
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This
is
the
existing
tree
canopy
and,
as
you
can
see,
most
of
the
tree
canopies
that
would
be
removed
is
right
now
within
the
existing
parking.
A
lot-
and
this
is
the
proposed
tree
canopy
and
the
applicant-
is
proposing
about
94
new
trees
to
be
planted
based
on
the
city
of
mountain
view,
requirement.
They
are
required
to
provide
138
replacement,
trees
and
a
staff
is
recommending
to.
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We're
going
to
share
a
screen,
my
name
is
joe
newtbar,
I'm
the
development
manager
for
rockwood
capital,
the
entity
that
controls
the
property
here
and
bruce
hancock
and
wright
sherman
from
wrns
studio
are
here
and
they'll
be
controlling
the
slides.
For
me,
ella
has
done
a
nice
job
summarizing
the
project,
so
we'll
move
through
very
quickly
on
the
presentation,
but
maybe
we
can
provide
a
little
bit
of
context.
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H
I
should
say
massive
site
work
and
landscape
upgrade
to
to
really
change
what
this,
what
this
campus
has
been
over
the
years
from
a
1980s
suburban
office
campus
to
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
vibrant
and
and
speaks
a
little
bit
more
to
what
mountain
view
is
today
and
what
what
urban
communities
want
to
be
like
today,
bruce.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please.
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H
Again,
to
sort
of
give
the
context
again
the
first
phase,
which
we've
mostly
completed,
it,
was
really
about
facade
improvements,
changing
what
the
characteristic
of
the
place
looked
like
and
then,
and
really
changing
all
of
the
site,
work
and
landscape
to
to
create
a
more
vibrant
place
in
which
to
work
and
spend
time.
The
phase
two
that
we've
been
hoping
to
do
for
a
long
time
has
been
the
addition
of
the
new
building,
and
so
now
is
the
time
that
we're
able
to
via
the
tdr
process,
have
the
opportunity
to
bring
this.
H
This
phase
to
this,
this,
what
we
find
to
be
a
sort
of
under
developed,
overly
suburban
campus
location
that
has
such
great
adjacency
to
the
mass
transit
and
multiple
means
of
of
traffic,
whether
it's
bicycle
pedestrian
ride,
share
or
train,
and
last
mile
bicycle
or
mv
go.
The
site
is
very
well
located
next
slide.
H
We
have
some
before
and
after
images
just
to
share
some
of
that
context.
The
existing
on
the
left
beige
beige,
tilt-up
buildings
with
lots
of
parking
within
the
campus
kind
of
dated
turf
grass
landscape,
very
passive
landscape,
with
these
sort
of
hermetically
sealed
glass
window
lines
that
were
very
unfriendly
no
indoor
outdoor
and
to
the
right.
H
We've
created
these
pedestrian-friendly
environments,
a
lot
of
walkability
people
places
and
made
the
buildings
much
more,
engaging
and
and
trying
to
stitch
together
the
pedestrian
ground
plane
to
the
interior
of
the
buildings,
whether
it's
through
bigger
openings,
bigger
windows,
clearer
glass,
stairways,
penetrations
and
so
forth.
Next
slide.
H
These
are
all
examples
of
what
the
site
looks
like
today,
which
is
very
active,
very
dynamic
and
again
much
more
of
a
people
place
and
pedestrian
place.
That
has
become
a
more
organized
campus
I'll,
be
at
a
multi-tenant
campus,
as
opposed
to
you
know
the
sort
of
google
campuses
which
which
are
owner
user
driven.
This
is
very
different
here,
where
we
have
different
tenants
in
all
the
buildings
next
slide.
H
These
are
diagrammatic,
you
know
organizational
drawings,
just
showing
how
we're
trying
to
organize
the
site.
I
think
it's
probably
a
little
bit
more
detailed
than
we
need
for
tonight
next
slide
and
then
the
site
plan
which
ella
touched
on-
and
I
think
it's
important
to
to
mention
one
of
the
drc
recommendations
number
one
regarding
the
driveway
is-
is
between
the
new
building
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
page
on
the
very
first
building
and
the
upper
left,
the
yeah
there's
the
cursor.
Thank
you
that
that
drive
vial
there.
H
The
drc
is
recommended
that
we
remove
that
as
a
vehicular
access
point,
and
we
feel
quite
strongly
that
we
want
to
maintain
that
and-
and
part
of
the
reason
is
that
we
feel
like
it's
very,
very
difficult.
If
you
come
off
of
evelyn
to
find
the
building,
if
there's
no
vehicular
connection,
we've
we've
decided
to
get
rid
of
the
driveway
penetration
at
the
street
itself
and
in
those
images
with
the
trellises
and
the
plaza,
which
happens
to
be
in
the
center
of
the
site.
H
What
we're
calling
the
roux
the
sort
of
pedestrian
promenade
that
allows
vehicles
to
travel
through
it
in
that
section
where
the
cursor
is
bouncing
now
how
to
enhance
that
environment,
so
that
the
landscape
is
present
significant
and
feels
like
a
people
place
but
still
allows
vehicles
to
travel
through
it,
even
even
though
we
don't
feel
like
this
would
be
the
primary
access
point
for
vehicles.
We
think
that
it's
a
necessary
point
of
access.
H
H
More
building
these
are
examples
of
things
that
we're
working
on
in
progress
with
it,
with
the
drc
comments
working
on
canopies
and
overhangs
and
articulation
at
various
moments
of
the
building.
So
this
is
all
in
progress
and
in
response
to
drc
comments
next
slide
again,
plaza
images
go
to
the
next
slide
bruce.
H
We
can
look
at
the
entry
very
briefly
working
again
on
canopies
entry
articulation
and
other
things
that
we
heard
from
the
drc
that
we're
working
on
in
real
time
currently
with
staff
next
slide
entry,
oh
yeah,
one
of
the
other
comments
of
drc
was
moving
trash
enclosure
which
you'd
see
on
the
bottom
image
to
the
right.
The
top
image
is
showing
it
removed
again.
H
H
Parking
structure
ella
touched
on
this:
these
are
advancements,
we're
showing
more
screening,
less
garage
architecture
and
more
texture
and
relief
and
so
forth.
So
we're
working
on
that
on
all
four
sides
of
the
garage
with
staff
and
drc
next
slide,
and
you
know
other
details
of
trying
to
create
better
pedestrian
feel
to
the
spaces,
in
particular
that
driveway
that
I
touched
on
prior,
that
spaces
can
be
pedestrian
friendly
and
also
allow
vehicles
to
travel
within
them.
H
The
the
lower
slide
we
showed
to
the
drc
was
sort
of
a
special
paving
zone
with
lots
of
bollards
to
differentiate,
and
the
upper
image
is
where
we
are
today,
with
special
paving,
but
a
lot
more
planting
planter
pots
and
a
much
more
landscape
engaged
definition
of
the
edges
next
slide,
and
these
are
some
of
the
edges.
The
upper
slide.
This
revised
design,
where
we
are
today
defining
pedestrian
places
and
spaces
and
the
lower
the
lower
slides
showing
where
we
were
at
drc
with
a
little
bit
more
of
an
open,
open
area.
H
H
We're
very
excited
to
try
to
take
this
old,
suburban
campus
and
continue
to
integrate
it
as
a
much
more
contemporary
piece
of
urban
design
for
the
city
and
and
we're
excited
to
own
it
for
a
long
time
as
well
and
committed
to
delivering
a
really
nice
product,
which
I
think,
we've
already
done
in
the
first
phase
and
looking
forward
to
trying
to
do
in
the
second
phase.
So
we're
happy
to
turn
it
back
over
to
you
for
a
discussion.
A
At
this
point,
we'll
open
up
for
a
public
comment,
but
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member
of
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I
I
So,
looking
at
the
new
plans
compared
with
what
you
presented
to
drc
originally
really
like
the
changes
a
whole
lot
there,
the
site
as
it
is
right
now,
is
very
encumbered
by
surface
parking,
a
lot
of
hardscape,
and
I
I
see
that
is
still
going
to
be
a
challenge
going
forward
with
the
project.
I
see
in
your
drawings
that
there's
still
a
fair
amount
of
surface
parking
and
we
would
like
even
more
of
that
removed,
if
possible
and
converted
to
landscaping
other
comments
in
the
office
building.
I
It
appears
that
there's
an
awful
lot
of
glass,
even
with
the
new
design.
I
assume
that
that's
been
password
bird
friendliness,
but
that
amount
of
glass
could
be
a
problem
and
then
a
lot
of
light
leakage
too
we're
hoping
for
new
light
ordinances
in
mountain
view.
That
would
reduce
the
amount
of
light,
and
so
too
many
windows
can
be
a
problem.
In
that
respect.
I
I
I
mentioned
the
reducing
the
amount
of
hardscape
would
be
good.
We're
curious
about
the
increased
job
count
if
the
office
building
goes
in,
given
that
there's
no
housing
on
site
here,
two
more
comments:
one
is
consideration
for
public-facing
amenities
in
the
design,
such
as
drinking
fountains
or
hydration
stations,
restrooms
bike,
repair
stations,
public
facing
be
great,
and,
lastly,
consideration
for
shared
workspace
in
your
plans
to
promote
work
from
home
across
companies
in
the
region.
Thank
you.
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E
Good
evening,
commissioners,
and
and
joe
that
was
a
great
imagine,
I
can't
see
it
I'm
on
the
phone,
but
it
was,
it
was
nice
to
listen
to.
My
name
is
brian
shields,
I'm
a
field
rep
for
carpenters,
local
405,
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
on
this.
It's
another
precise
plan
where,
where
language
could
be
added
to
it,
that
would
allow
apprenticeship
prevailing
wage
healthcare
for
the
people
that
actually
do
the
building
there.
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H
We
haven't,
I
mean
we,
we
think
it's
you
know
important
and
beneficial
to
the
building
either
way.
Typically,
the
fire
department
wants
access
from
two
sides.
The
ferry
morris
frontage
is
full
of
very
mature
heritage,
trees,
redwoods
and
oaks,
and
so
it
and
along
with
evelyn,
makes
it
very
difficult
to
serve
the
building
from
a
fire
department
perspective
from
those
two
sides.
So
we
think
they're
going
to
want
to
have
two
sides
to
to
work
from
and
be
able
to
have
aerial
apparatus
there.
So
again
we
haven't
met
with
the
fire
department.
H
It's
not
our
driving
or
gating
issue.
We
just
think
that
it's
likely
that
they're
going
to
require
it
or
really
want
it.
We
want
it
from
functionality
and,
frankly,
from
a
real
estate
standpoint,
we
think
the
building's
difficult
to
to
lease
and
operate
without
being
able
to
get
people
there
in
a
logical
fashion
and
be
able
to
service
it
with
the
kind
of
activities
that
happen
at
buildings
today
and
I'm
thinking
about
you
know,
ride,
share
I'm
thinking
about
delivery.
Thinking
about
vendors
visitors,
I'm
trying
to
imagine
my
own.
H
You
know
person
driving
to
the
site
with
an
evil
address,
turning
into
the
site
and
then
turning
right
in
the
parking
lot
getting
to
a
dead
end
having
to
make
a
three-point
turn
to
turn
around
and
have
to
drive
all
the
way
around
the
outside
of
the
site
to
try
to
figure
out
where
the
building
is-
and
I
think
that's
that's
just
difficult
from
a
daily
operational
standpoint.
It's
difficult
for
leasing,
it's
very
difficult,
just
makes
for
bad
real
estate.
H
So
I
think
our
approach
is
to
is
to
be
able
to
make
as
great
a
space
as
we
can
and
we
think
that
we
can
achieve
it.
This
is
done
in
lots
of
places
very
successfully,
but
we
want
to
create
a
great
space
that
is
pedestrian
dominant
but
but
allows
the
kind
of
uses
that
we
know
are
going
to
be
needed
by
a
piece
of
real
estate
like
this.
You
know
because
it's
interesting
here
as
opposed
to
a
google
campus
or
another
corporate
user
campus.
These
are
multi-tenant
buildings.
H
There
are
different
tenants
in
all
these
buildings,
and
so
they
have
to
have
their
own
services
their
own,
their
own
identity.
Their
own
vendors,
their
own
visitors,
coming
it's
very
different
than
a
cohesive
campus.
That's
that's
run
by
one
owner
user,
and
so
that's
what
that's
the
primary
issue
for
us
here
and
we
don't
see
it
as
a
negative
thing.
We
just
we
want
to
make
it.
You
know
viable,
vibrant,
real
estate,
with
a
good
site
plan.
J
Thank
you,
maybe
one
more
follow-up
question.
While
I
have
you
joe,
I
was
struck
in
the
staff
report
and
by
visiting
the
site
that
a
third
of
the
parking
is
still
surface
parking.
Are
there
any
future
long-term
plans
for
development?
In
that
I
know
it's
a
wedge
shape.
It's
a
little
unusual
is
that
it.
H
The
parking
lot
where
the
building
is
located
currently
has
many
many
kind
of
sickly
ash
trees
that
I
believe
many
of
them
qualify
as
heritage
trees,
but
they're
not
in
good
shape,
but
from
a
constraint
standpoint
to
your
question
about
getting
rid
of
more
surface
parking.
The
geometry,
as
you
mentioned,
is
for
triangular
shape.
In
addition
to
the
number
of
very,
very
large
coastal.
Live
oaks
primarily
make
that
a
very
difficult
location
to
get
rid
of
surface
parking.
H
H
It's
sort
of
the
sort
of
you
know:
older
parking
ratios
that
we've
relied
on
over
many
years
and
and
moved
to
a
much
more
rational,
lower
parking
ratio,
but
we
would
have
to
to
get
rid
of
more
surface
parking,
reduce
the
parking
ratios
much
more
substantially
to
a
to
a
place
that,
I
think,
is
not
is
not
market
sustainable?
At
this
point.
J
H
The
the
eastern
site,
where
the
surface
parking
we
have
no
plans
for
any
future
building
or
parking
structure
on
that
site
and
feel
like
it's.
It's
probably
infeasible
due
to
the
the
heritage
trees
and
we
think
the
heritage
heritage.
Shoes
are
important.
You
know
we'd
love
to
utilize
as
much
real
estate
as
we
can
on
the
site,
but
we
really
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea,
and
I
don't
know
if
the
architects
want
to
say
anything
to
that
to
that
effect.
H
K
H
K
G
So
the
driveway
caught
has
been
removed
from
the
second
revision
of
the
project.
Right
now
we
are
talking
about
the
driveway
section,
that
is
between
the
new
building
and
existing
building,
and
the
rationale
is
that
the
existing
buildings
and
they
are
based
on
pedestrian
access
and
between
all
the
buildings.
You
don't
see
any
drive,
bays
or
any
location
for
the
cars.
So
it's
it's.
G
I
can
say
hundred
percent
accessible
with,
like
walkability
and
pedestrian
environment
and
right
now,
the
new
building
and
the
existing
building
is
going
to
be
separated
by
a
driveway,
and
that's
why
I
know
the
applicant
is
trying
to
make
it
more
pedestrian
friendly
friendly.
But
at
the
end,
when
at
the
end
of
the
like,
when
a
car
is
able
to
pass
through,
it
will
be
a
driveway.
So
I
know
by
adding
more
active
space
and
green
space.
G
L
K
K
G
H
K
Well
I'll
tell
you
what,
instead
of
because
I
have
a
few
more
questions,
I'm
going
to
ask-
and
this
is
just
a
study
session
anyway.
I
just
think
that's
a
that's
an
important
thing
to
address
next
time
about
what
that
trade-off
is
because
I
you
know,
we
love
our
trees
here.
It's
important
to
know
exactly
how
many
we're
we're
saving
by
making
it
harder
for
vendors
to
get
to
the
parking
lot
can.
H
Can
I
add
if
it
would
be
okay,
if
I
can
add
to
ella's
comments
about
the
the
objectives?
I
think
I
think
what's
interesting
to
note
here
is
that
in
the
existing
condition,
all
the
buildings
have
vehicular
access
on
two
sides
and
when
we
add
this
building,
this
new
building
only
would
have
in
that
condition
without
the
driveway
particular
access
on
one
side,
and
so
the
diagram
becomes
different
than
it
is
today.
H
You
know
we
have
a
wonderfully
pedestrian
focused
environment
within
all
of
the
buildings
today,
but
they
all
have
the
ability
to
be
served
by
two
sides
by
vehicular
traffic
for
both
usability
delivery,
fire
all
the
above
in
the
case
where
that
driveway's,
not
between
those
two
buildings.
This
building
only
has
one-sided
vehicular
access,
which
we
we
find
to
be
problematic.
So
that's
one
condition
that
changes
with
the
with
the
removal
of
that
driveway.
K
Here
I
have
one
more
question:
if
that's
all
right,
I
want
to
talk
about
bikes
for
a
second,
because
I
I
I
see
that
you
know
and
I've
driven
by
there
many
many
times,
and
I
know
you're
not
very
far
from
stephens
creek,
so
you
must
have
a
lot
of
bikes
coming
off
coming
off
there
and
going
across
evelyn
to
to
get
to
the
site.
I
imagine
perhaps
you'll
have
more.
If
you
build
this
building
and
you've
got
more
people
coming
in.
I'm
actually
curious
to
know.
K
H
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we
have
any.
We
don't
have
any
information
on
that,
not
that
it
isn't
a
problem.
I
just
don't
know
it
to
be
a
problem,
but
we
don't
have
any
data
at
all.
We
do
know
that
the
site
is
currently
used
extensively
by
bicyclists
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that
is
last
mile
from
from
caltrain
and
vta,
but
so
each
each
building
has
a
robust.
You
know
bicycle
room
and
storage
area,
that's
actively
used
and
this
building
has
one
planned
as
well,
including
bike
showers
and
bike,
lockers,
etc.
H
K
D
K
Through
and
from
vta
from
the
bta
side
too,
I'm
just
sort
of
curious
to
know
how
much
thought
has
gone
into
that
and
if
you
know
you
haven't
spent
much
time
thinking
about
it
because
it
never
happens
there.
That
would
be
a
great
thing
to
learn,
but
I
would
for
future
discussions
I'd,
be
curious
that
that's.
H
D
You
had
mentioned
that
we're
trying
to
have
this
campus
be
a
little
bit
more
urban
we're
going
away
from
the
suburban
model,
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
more
in
line
with
mountain
view,
sort
of
urban
principles,
it's
sort
of
in
my
mind.
The
spot
is
unique
in
that
it's
beautiful
because
of
what
you've
done
in
phase
one.
I
think
you've
been
very
successful
in
turning
it
into
kind
of
like
an
urban
park
with
buildings
situated
within,
and
I
like
what
you
were
going.
D
H
H
I
think
the
the
typical
user
is
going
to
find
the
shortest
path
in
and
they
know
where
they're
going,
because
they
go
there
every
day.
It's
really
the
vendors
and
visitors
and
deliveries
that
differ
based
on
who
occupies
the
building
different
tenants
of
different
uses,
different
demands
and
so
forth,
and
you
know
you
you
want
to
be
able
to
to
offer
a
building
that
functions
well
for
multiple
types
of
tenants,
but
again
it's
not
really
the
the
parking
ratio
and
the
amount
of
single
occupant.
H
You
know,
vehicles
that
arrive
on
the
site
isn't
really
the
driver
for
this.
This
convenience,
if
you
will
it's
actually
not
very
convenient
to
get
to
the
parking
structure
that
way
for
a
daily
user,
you'll,
naturally
want
to
drive
slower
you're,
naturally
going
to
be
aware
of
the
quickest
way
in
and
so
forth.
So
it's
really
the
other
aspects
which
which
are
hard
to
define
when
you
don't
have
a
user
in
tow
and-
and
we
need
to
have
that
flexibility
to
provide
different
types
of
uses
it
could
be.
H
H
Some
some
tenants
don't
have
a
lot
of
visitors,
but
we
don't
know
that
ahead
of
time.
So
we
need
to
provide
that
flexibility
and
and
that
sort
of
logical
way
of
finding
a
building
you,
you
know
it
sort
of
gets
down
to
that
you
put
into
waze
or
google
maps.
You
know
301
east
evelyn
avenue,
and
it
takes
you
down
evelyn
and
you
turn
into
the
driveway
where
it
shows
you
where
to
go.
H
And
then
you
have
no
idea
how
to
get
to
the
building
and
you
actually
turn
towards
the
building
and
then
it's
a
dead
end
and
then
you're.
You
know
having
to
do
a
three-point
turn
to
turn
around
and
re-figure
out.
Your
bearings.
It
just
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
logical
sense
from
our
perspective,
again
we're
building
real
estate,
we're
investing
in
real
estate,
we're
thinking
about
it
on
that
level.
Having
said
that,
we're
clearly
committed
to
creating
great
people,
places
and-
and
we've
been
doing
that
thus
far,
but
we
need
to
balance
the
two.
H
You
know
it
needs
to
work
as
real
estate
and
it
needs
to
be
great
for
people
and
we
think
that
what
we're
showing
this
plan
actually
achieves
that
very
nicely
and
we
think
we're
approaching
it
in
a
pretty
sensitive
way
to
try
to
balance
those
two
needs
which
are
really
different.
Programmatic
needs,
but
they're
both
very
important
needs.
D
D
H
H
So
if
you
make
the
wrong
turn
and
turn
right
off
of
evelyn
avenue,
when
you
come
in
you're
stuck,
you
have
no
way
of
figuring
out
where
to
how
to
get
to
that
building
without
driving
all
the
way
around
and
passing
the
parking
structure,
and
then
you
get
visibility
of
the
building
it.
Just
at
this
point
today,
if
you
pull
into
the
site,
it
doesn't
matter
which
way
you
enter
the
site,
it's
a
continuous
loop.
We
just
don't
want
to.
We
just
don't
want
to
cut
off
the
loop.
H
D
Okay,
I
guess
I'm
just
a
little
confused
because
they
would
come
into
off
evelyn
hit
the
parking
garage.
But
I
I
thought
and
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
there
is
a
road
that
goes
in
front
of
the
parking
garage
and
goes
all
the
way
to
the.
What
I
thought
was
the
entry
of
the
building,
and
then
you
make
you
know
it's.
The
entry
plaza
is
right
where
the
road
turns
correct
off
the
field.
H
D
H
H
H
A
There
are
questions
yeah.
I
have
a
few
in
your
drawings,
all
the
services
area
on
the
first
floor
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
next
to
the
entrance
to
ferry
morris
drive.
Why
don't
you
think
that
vendors
can't
be
trained
to
use
the
entrance
that
they're
supposed
to
use
to
get
to
the
loading
dock
in
the
services
area?
On
the
south
end
of
the
building.
H
I
think
I
think
vendors
could
be
trained,
although
the
drivers
tend
to
change
a
lot
and
the
types
of
vendors
that
show
up
whether
they
be
vendors
could
be
delivery.
People
that
deliver
you
know
supplies
they
could
also
be
sales,
people
that
are
visiting
the
building
for
the
first
time
trying
to
sell
new
software
to
this
company
or
whatever,
so
as
business
vendors,
as
well
as
the
repeat
vendors,
so
people
that
bring
cleaning
supplies
that
come
every
other
week.
They'll
know
the
drill,
but
the
other
vendors
that
services
that
service
businesses
will
change
constantly.
A
So
people
like
sales
people
they're
going
to
be
visitors
to
the
site,
or
would
they
be
prohibited
from
using
the
the
visitor
parking?
That's
right
in
front
of
the
building?
That's
next
to
the
new
building
right
there
along
italy.
Was
there
a
reason
that
they
would
not
be
able
to
park
in
that
parking
lot.
H
A
And
a
question
for
staff:
I've
lived
in
areas
where
there's
where
there
is
no
building,
there's
no
road
next
to
a
to
a
building
and
fire
services
required
were
handled
through
the
use
of
under
essentially
under
grass
blocks
that
allow
the
support
of
the
fire
services.
Is
there
any
reason
that
the
for
a
on
an
office
building
that
cut
that
kind
of
access
for
emergency
services
could
not
be
provided
on
that
area?
In
between
the
two
buildings.
L
So
I
think
we
it
would
take
some
more
analysis
with
with
the
fire
department.
They
have
a
150
foot
reach
distance
from
from
a
paved
area.
So
it
would
I
mean
to
answer
the
direct
question.
They
don't
allow
grass
crate
so
that
wouldn't
be
an
option,
but
we
would
have
to
do
kind
of
a
of
a
you
know.
A
distance
reach
analysis
from
the
other
different
paved
areas
to
see.
If
you
know,
fire
access
was
adequate
without
that
driveway.
A
H
I'm
not,
I
don't,
have
intimate
knowledge
of
how
the
addressing
works
this.
This
campus
is
known
as
301
to
381,
east
devlin
avenue,
and
it's
proposed
that
this
building,
similar
to
the
other
buildings,
will
take
a
three
series
address
within
that
cluster,
so
that
it's
all
part
of
the
same
campus
as
opposed
to
a
unique
address
on
a
different
street,
like
you
might
find
on
on
different
city
blocks,
for
example.
H
So
we
think
it's
should
be
cohesive,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
addressing
or
you
know
postal
address
controls
are,
but
we
think
from
a
real
estate
standpoint.
We
want
the
for
the.
For
the
let's
say:
one
of
the
existing
tenants
wants
to
move
into
this
new
building
that
they
have
similar
address
and
identity
and
so
forth.
So
there's
there
is
value
to
the
campus
identity,
but
I
I
don't
know
what
goes
into
changing,
addresses
or
creating
new
addresses
in
a
city
that
on
a
street
that
doesn't
currently
have
any
addresses.
L
Yeah,
the
addressing
is
done
by
by
our
building
official
in
conjunction
with
the
post
office,
so
I
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
kind
of
different
roles.
You
know
if
this,
then
that
so
I
I
really
wouldn't
be
able
to
tell
you
if
they
could.
You
know
re-address
the
site
or
this
building
with
a
very
morse
address
versus
evelyn.
A
A
G
A
G
It
goes
up
because
the
building
is
encroaching
in
in
some
areas
and
in
and
not
in
all
of
the
frontage
or
on
all
all
along
the
frameworks.
In
some
areas
the
building
encroaches
into
the
required
yard,
but
in
other
areas
it's
sometimes
it's.
The
the
setback
is
even
more
than
70
feet
so,
but
the
applicant
is
increasing
the
amount
of
land
escaping
based
on.
So
if
you
look
at
the
area
at
that
70
feet
yard.
A
Then
it
was
not
clear
to
me
from
the
drawings
there's
a
basketball
like
a
half
basketball
court
and
a
sand
volleyball
court
in
the
back
near
where
the
parking
garage
is
it's
not
clear
from
the
drawings
whether
they
would
be
destroyed
as
part
of
the
placement
of
the
parking
garage
or
relocated,
or
would
they
still
be?
They
they're
they're
kind
of
at
the
very
best
looks
like
they'd,
be
kind
of
in
the
center
of
where
the
parking
garage
is
correct,
they're,
accessible
challenged.
I
think.
H
D
D
H
F
H
M
Sure
yeah
I
mean
I
think
it's
been
mentioned
earlier-
that
we've
been
adding
70
landscaping
in
the
front
frontal
zones,
a
big
part
of
what
why
that's
happening
is
because
we're
removing
so
much
surface
parking.
You
know
which
is
not
great
from
a
storm
water
management
and
certainly
out
you
know
not
following
currency
three
regulations
on
that.
So
it's
an
opportunity
to
distribute
retention
basins
throughout
the
site,
and
you
know
a
site
like
this
17
acres,
that's
quite
quite
a
lot
of
area.
M
H
Yeah,
I
would
add
that,
as
wright
touched
on
a
little
bit
on
the
existing
site
work
that
we've
done,
we've
removed
all
of
the
at
least
on
the
inboard
portion
of
the
project.
We've
removed
all
of
the
irrigated
turf
grass.
There
was
a
ton.
The
dominant
landscape
feature
prior
to
our
project,
starting
was
was
irrigated,
turf
grass
and
we've
removed.
H
All
of
that,
and
I
think
even
along
the
sidewalks,
it's
gone
as
well,
and
so
the
the
site
is
currently
using
a
lot
less
water
than
it
had
been,
and
these
buildings
obviously
will
be
state-of-the-art
in
terms
of
their
sustainability,
not
to
the
water
question,
but
just
for
context.
We're
also
this
building
will
be
all
electric
and
and
not
use
any
natural
gas
either.
F
H
That's
fair
to
say
the
one
area
we
have
a
sort
of
a
quad
in
the
middle
of
the
site.
That
looks
like
grass,
but
it's
it's
artificial
turf
and
it's
actually
below.
It
is
a
massive
storm
water
retention
basin
that
helps
manage
the
runoff
from
the
site
and
the
rooftops
into
bioretention
filters
and
naturally
flow
back
into
the
water
table.
H
N
Non-Functional
you
know,
in
terms
of
you
know,
landscape
we
have
hardscape
and
soft
skates
areas.
The
majority
of
the
project
is
the
phase.
One
project
is
functional,
hardscape
areas
and,
and
the
lawn
joe
mentioned
so
very-
very
function,
oriented
and
drought-tolerant
plantings
with
a
with
a
a
lot
of
native
plants,
and
I
will
kind
of
continue
in
the
in
the
phase
two
project.
The
new
building
project.
F
Cool,
and
is
it
fair
to
assume
or
safe
to
say
that
you
guys
are
gonna
kind
of
keep
reviewing
that
and
essentially
you
know
because
it
would
be
good.
Obviously
you
guys
live
in
this
state
as
well.
I
presume,
unless
you're
contacting
me.
Yes,
it
would
be
great
to
kind
of
like
just
lead
on
that
and
and
other
cities
like
las
vegas,
you
know
comes
to
mind
that
are
doing
a
really
good
job
with
landscaping
and
yeah
it'd
be
nice
to
drink
the
water.
So.
A
Yes
support,
I
see
not
from
krishna
you
no
news
and
not
from
commissioner
clark,
mr
dempsey
yen,
so
it
looks
like
there's.
Six
votes
in
favor
of
the
precise
plan
proposed
amendments.
Good
second
question
was
the
vpc
support
the
staff
recommendation?
Oh,
did
you
have
a
comment
on
that
or
is
it
the
next
topic.
J
C
A
C
So
I
I
do
support
the
staff
recommendation,
but
I
wanted
to
provide
comment
on
on
the
driveway
we've
all
talked
about,
so
normally
in
a
in
a
campus-like
study.
With
a
in
a
couple
of
situations,
I
would
feel
pretty
strongly
about
a
vehicular
access,
not
being
there
that
would.
Those
are
typically
campus
settings
where
you
have
a
single
tenant
and
folks
need
to
get
between
buildings.
Frequently,
and
you
don't
want
you,
don't
necessarily
want
any.
C
We
don't
have
a
necessarily
a
single
tenant
and
a
we
have
a
probably
a
multi-tenant
situation
with
folks
arriving
at
different
addresses
and
things
that
the
applicant
has
pointed
out,
and
so
in
this
particular
case
I
actually
don't
feel
strongly
that
the
driveway
needs
to
not
be
there.
I
actually
think
it's
important
to
have
some
level
of
vehicular
access.
Having
experienced
this
in
my
own
work,
especially
for
delivery,
vendors
and
folks
who
yes,
you'll,
have
your
regular
ones
who
know
exactly
how
to
get
in
and
out.
C
But
it's
it's
very
difficult
if
you,
if
you
happen
to
be
the
tenant
or
tenants
in
that
building,
and
not
the
other
and
you're
you're
running
into
a
lot
of
difficulties
that
that
may
not
be
necessary,
and
so
just
given
that
this
isn't
a
single
tenant,
a
cohesive
campus
where
folks
are
going
to
be
going
from
building
to
building
really
frequently
most
likely.
I
know
it's
possible,
but
I
think
it's
unlikely
and
then
the
fact
that
we're
you
know
we're
you
know.
Staff
is
also
exploring.
K
I
thought
chris
said
it
really.
Well,
I
I
also
do
not
feel
that
we
need
to
close
off
that
vehicular
access.
I
think,
as
long
as
the
applicant
can
show
that
they've
put
a
substantial
amount
of
thought
into
safety,
design
and
like
putting
this
together
in
a
way
that
you're
not
going
to
have
a
problem
with
you
know
engineer
looking
at
his
phone
who
just
walks,
you
know
not
at
the
crosswalk
but
halfway
across
the
street
and
get
plowed
like
I
do
not
want
that.
None
of
us
do
so.
K
I'd
like
there
to
be
from
the
applicant
some
deep
thought
about
how
to
make
that
really
really
safe.
But
you
know
we
want.
We
want
these
campuses
to
be
beautiful,
we
want
to
enjoy
being
in
them,
but
we
also
have
to
enjoy
using
them,
and
you
know
you
go
and
you
visit
you
get
lost,
you
can
drive
around
for
15
minutes
and
it's
frustrating
that's
not
funny
either
and
yeah.
So
that's
not
a
that's,
not
a
part
that
I
think
needs
to
be
here.
D
D
If
that
we
don't
know
yet,
then
we
don't
know
it,
but
if
there
is
a
way
still,
I
would
still
side
for
pedestrian
access
if
it
could
just
be
a
one-way
street
and
you're,
not
looping
through
then
ferris,
more
east
evelyn
to
come
back
in
I'm
just
conceptually
trying
to
prioritize
the
pedestrian
access
so
to
minimize
the
amount
of
you
know.
Drivable
space
that
has
a
curb
cut
would
be
ideal
to
me
and
then
that
way
you
can
get
more
a
little
bit
more
landscaping.
D
I'm
I'm
just
pushing
for
that
direction.
Even
if
we
have
to
have
vehicular
access
we're
only
saving,
you
know
a
few
trees,
so
it's
not
the
biggest
thing
for
me
either.
But
if
I
were
you
know,
I
would
still
lean
towards
pedestrian
excess.
Just
looking
at,
I
think
in
the
packet.
I
think,
which
page
is
this
l2?
D
The
landscape
sheet
two
you've
got
this
big
strong
axis,
going
left
to
right
on
the
page
between
buildings,
301
351
331
just
like
between
front
to
back,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
connect
that
all
the
way
to
the
new
building.
Where
now
it
looks
like
it's
broken
with
the
road.
So
if
conceptually,
the
design
is
to
carry
it
all
the
way
through
and
bring
it
into
the
plaza
as
if
it
were
all
tied
together,
I
think
it
would
be
stronger,
even
if
we
do
have
vehicular
excess.
D
D
D
But
if
we
want
to
sort
of
have
a
street
presence
and
to
kind
of
speak
to
the
public,
then
maybe
we
have
you
know
a
couple
things:
throw
the
dog
a
bone
over
there
to
the
public
and
have
a
little
bit
more
along
evelyn
as
well,
to
give
more
of
a
face
to
that
building
to
maybe
a
place
to
rest.
Some
shade
things
of
that
nature.
D
F
So
I'm
really
curious
about
commissioner
yin's
comments
and
I
was
hoping
staff
might
or
the
developer
might
be
able
to
pull
up
that
page
and
then,
commissioner,
again,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
kind
of
visualizing
a
little
bit
I,
I
would
actually
appreciate
that.
Sorry
to
ask
you
to
repeat
that
again,
but
I'm
very
curious
about
that
comment.
You
just
made
visually.
I.
H
D
D
You
still
see
sort
of
this
break
for
a
road,
and
it
would
be
nice
if
conceptually
it
all
tied
through
where
that
was
the
strongest
concept
and
if
you
had
to
have
a
road,
make
it
as
small
as
possible
and
disappear.
Have
it
disappear
in
a
sense,
let
let
the
people
in
the
bikes
have
the
priority
over
the
car.
F
H
Can
I
just
make
a
comment
on
the
street
street
trees?
Real,
quick?
It's
it's
a
great
comment
you
made
about
the
street
trees
they're
at
the
top
of
the
page
there
they
are
existing
redwoods
at
the
back
of
curb
our
original
plans
for
phase
one
showed
a
double
row
of
trees
there,
but-
and
I
can't
remember
what
happened
but
at
some
point
our
double
row
was
reduced
to
just
maintaining
the
existing
row
of
redwoods.
So
that's
what
we
have
today,
but
we
were
always
interested
in
having
a
second
row
of
trees
there.
D
And
I
know
there's
some
bioretention
and
you're
making
use
of
some
of
those
zones.
It's
just
you
know
for
the
people
walking
down
the
street,
it
would
be
or
sorry
sidewalk.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
some
shade.
Maybe
some
respite
spots,
a
couple
amenities,
it's
a
long
stretch,
and
you
know
it
would
just
be
a
plus
if
some
effort
was
put
on
the
eveline
street
frontage
as
well.
D
A
From
everybody,
except
for
me,
so
in
general,
I
support
the
emphasis
on
pedestrian
access
and
the
amenity
space.
I'm
I'm
actually
intrigued
by
commissioner
yen's
comment
about
making
it
one
way.
One
of
the
things
that
I
thought
was
we
haven't
really
talked
about,
but
I
thought
it
was
extremely
important
from
the
drc.
Feedback
was
way
finding
strategies
that
can
make
a
big
difference
in
how
people
get
around
how
they
find
the
site
and
particularly
vendors,
no
deliveries,
this
way
kind
of
thing,
so
I
completely
agree
with
drc's
feedback
on
that.
A
A
Obviously,
it
needs
to
have
fire
access
and
it
can't
be
grass
blocked
and
they
have
to
be
paid
no
matter
what,
but
I'm
not
like
commissioner
clark,
I'm
not
stuck
on
it
having
to
be
having
to
be
eliminated
that
I
wanted
to.
It
should
be
something
that's
more
of
an
exception
for
what
people
use,
as
opposed
to
the
rule,
and
I
guess
I
think
I'm
hearing
that
from
across
all
the
commissioners
in
general.
A
I
didn't
get
any
other
kind
of
major
points
I
think
commissioning
in.
Let's
talk
about
doing
some
more
along
that
making
bike
access
into
that
area.
Commissioner
nunez
mentioned
that
I
I
would
certainly
support
they're,
making
sure
that
bike
access
is
also
strong
in
that
area.
Are
there
other?
So
that's
three.
Are
there
other
commissioners
that
want
to
make
sure
the
bike
access
in
there
is
also
as
important
as
pedestrian
access
or.
D
A
A
C
C
Especially
the
three
points
there
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
staff
report
right
before
the
question
comes
up
the
I
guess
this
is
actually
part
of
question
one,
but
I
would
I
would
generally
support
anything
that
we
can
do
to
preserve
additional
trees.
Even
if
that
means
we've
already
gone
past
question
one,
but
even
if
it
meant
maybe
going
a
little
taller
on
a
couple
of
these
structures.
Just
given
the
amount
of
redwoods
and
the
screening.
That's
there.
C
I
think
preserving
the
trees
is
more
important
in
this
particular
area
than
than
height,
but
but
I'm
fine
with
what's
proposed
and
the
and
I'm
hoping
that
the
basically
what
what
staff
in
the
drc
are
proposing
here
will
allow
us
to
just
create
a
better
overall
design
which
it
sounds
like
it
will
and
and
I'm
encouraged
by
the
before
and
after
visuals
that
the
applicant
showed.
I
think
it's
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
then
and
then
on
on
question
four.
C
K
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
totally
in
support
of
this.
I
think
that
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
The
only
thing
I
would
add
is
it
was
richard
suggested,
hydration
stations,
so
when
you're
looking
at
amenities
to
make
outdoor
spaces
more
hospitable
and
use
usable
useful,
consider
hydration
stations,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
People
need
to
drink
more
water,
and
that
can
be
useful
to
like
a
lot
of
different
people.
D
Oh,
I
I
do
I
I
agree.
I
think
you
know
from
what
used
to
be
there
to
what
is
there
now
as
an
improvement,
and
I
would
imagine
from
what
was
at
the
first
meeting
to
the
second
meeting
has
improved.
If
there's
any
other
improvement
that
drc
finds,
I
I
would
think
that
it
would
be
going
in
the
right
direction
and
I
I
feel
like
the
developer
is
also
trying
to
get
there
as
well,
so
it
wouldn't
be
difficult
to
get
to
a
really
nice
final
design.
D
J
Similarly,
I
appreciate
the
thought
I
think,
even
though
this
garage
doesn't
get
a
ton
of
visibility.
Given
this
screening,
I
I
think
the
drc
recommendations
on
design
are
important
and
I
appreciate
the
effort
for
lead
gold
and
the
rooftop
solar.
I
don't.
I
didn't
have
time
to
research
this
before
the
meeting
and
I
don't
know
what
our
standards
are
for:
ev
chargers
on
new
garages
that
are
coming
up,
but
being
able
to
to
really
encourage
that
infrastructure.
A
H
A
A
An
icon
or
was
a
well
it
didn't,
have
to
doesn't
have
to
be
an
iconic
building
like
we've
had
in
some
areas,
but
something
to
make
it
a
little
less
just
there
would
be
would
be,
would
be
good.
You
know,
I
think,
we're
focusing
kind
of
on
the
exterior
items
at
this
point.
Certainly
you
know
whether
they're
active
spaces
inside
or
outside.
A
So
they
don't
have
to
drive
anywhere,
but
I
think
generally
I'm
supportive
of
the
drc's
recommendations
and
then
so
it
looks
like
we're,
like
I
heard
kind
of
five
in
sport
and
one
kind
of
neutral,
so
that
would
be
in
favor
of
the
drc
recommendations
on
the
design
and
then
on.
The
last
question
is
the
trees.
A
D
Sure
I
just
had
a
quick
clarification
question
now.
Was
there
something
we
were
comparing
it
to
like
an
option
that
there
wasn't
anything
that
I
saw
where
we
saw
an
alternative
that
saved
more
trees,
or
so
I'm
not
sure
what
the
recommendations
were
and
what
those
changes
were.
So
it's
hard
to
you
know
say
yes
or
no.
D
G
We
don't
have
a
recommendation,
but
if
you
look
at
the
cycling,
you
see
some
of
the
trees
that
are
proposed
to
be
removed
are
not
even
within
and
the
proposed
building
footprints
and
also
there
are
some
opportunities
in
the
plaza
area,
the
proposed
plaza
and
the
area
between
the
proposed
office
building
and
the
parking
garage
to
save
more
trees
by
the
landscape
design.
I.
G
D
Yeah,
I
think
that's
the
notebook
also,
if,
if
there's
a
potential
to
do
so,
let's
do
it.
It
takes
many
many
years
to
grocery.
I
know
it's
difficult
with
a
big
root
ball.
You
know
you
have
to
dig
way
down,
and
sometimes
you
damage
the
tree
if
there's
an
effort
to
do
some
of
the
higher
quality
ones.
I
think
that
would
be
great
if
there's
something
in
the
landscape
that
can
be
done
to
retain
a
tree
if
it
doesn't
need
to
be
cut
down
to
build
these
two
structures
for
sure.
F
F
Obviously
the
the
carbon
sequestration
aspect
is
critical,
so
I'm
not
like
you
know
saying
I
don't
support
that,
but
I
I
do
want
to
know
like
how
much
is
the
carbon
and
water
utilization
that,
like
resource
utilization
of
yes
keeping
trees
and
like
to
the
point
of
not
being
able
to
use
something
like
recyclable
water,
you
know
versus
like
replacing
the
trees
and
and
doing
something
more
efficient,
like
is.
Is
there
some
comparison
that
goes
into
this
review?
F
L
L
F
Okay,
yeah
because
I
mean
I'll
I'll
support
the
tree
question,
but
it
is
an
open
question
for
for
me,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
if,
like
I
could
follow
up
with
like
eric
or
someone
else
and
staff
and
get
information
around.
You
know
like
actually
thinking
or
not
that
people
aren't
thinking
about
it
or
you
know
where
I
can
get
the
latest
thinking
on
the
the
actual
like
resource
intensiveness
of
kind
of
just
trying
to
preserve
something
we
have
today
versus,
like
maybe
even
10
years
from
now.
F
F
A
So
I
I
would
very
much
like
to
get
preserved
from
some
of
them.
I
was
the
ones
that
are
really
really
close
to
the
building
footprint
I
understood
more,
but
there's
a
there
are
three
trees
to
the
east
of
the
parking
garage
and
then
there's
a
cluster
of
trees,
that's
kind
of
in
the
parking
lot
that
are
not
anywhere
close
to
them,
and
I
thought
drc
mentioned
something
about
potentially
reconfiguring
the
fairy
more
entrance.
If
we
could
avoid
it.
A
Look
like
there
was
at
least
three
heritage
trees
there
and
a
bunch
of
non-heritage
trees
that
could
potentially
be
be
saved
simply
by
reconfiguring
that
entrance
from
being
straight
in
to
maybe
curve
down
towards
the
parking
garage
that
would
be.
It
would
be.
Great
staff
didn't
ask
specifically
about
whether
how
we
feel
about
the
applicant's.
A
A
L
A
M
O
O
It'll
come
back
to
the
epc
in
the
fall
for
adoption
after
hcd
is
reviewed.
There
is
a
august
3rd
meeting.
It's
going
to
be
a
special
meeting
in
order
to
review
the
housing
element,
environmental
impact
report,
so
that
document
will
come
out
shortly
beforehand
and
this
will
be
the
opportunity
for
public
input
on
the
environmental
review
as
well
as
planning
commissioner
input,
and
then
there
are
no
items
scheduled
for
june
15th,
which
was
the
going
to
be
the
last
regular
meeting
of
the
season.
So
after
that
we
are
adjourned
for
the
summer.
O
I
don't
have
those
exact
dates
with
me
right
now,
but
we
will
certainly
send
out
emails
to
the
commission
with
plenty
a
heads
up
about
those
dates.
Certainly
we
will
provide
it.
You
know
more
than
just
the
normal
weekend
review.
We
know
it'll
be
quite
a
bit
to
review,
so
we
know
it'll
be
at
least
at
least
an
extra
week,
but
we'll
have
we'll
give
you
a
heads
up
about
that.
O
J
D
Quick
question
I
just
it
just
came
to
me
earlier:
we
have
a
lot
of
projects
where
they
say
they
do
tdm
studies.
I
was
wondering
if
we
ever
get
feedback
on
that,
and
if
one
day
maybe
we
could
see
how
things
are
going
with
those
studies
to
see
how
our
projects
are
progressing
in
that
realm,
they're
working.
O
Yeah
I
mean,
if
there's
general
commission
support
for
bringing
back
that
information.
We
can
either
do
a
brief
summary
of
that
at
a
future
just
kind
of
announcements
or
we
can.
We
are
planning
to
start
an
update
of
the
transportation
demand,
management,
ordinance
or
a
new
transportation
demand
management
ordinance,
and
so
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
provide
more
information
to
during
a
you
know,
a
study
session,
or
something
like
that
on
that.
So
we
can
I'll.
D
O
So
there's
not
much
to
report
at
least
recently,
but
oh
I
will
mention,
though
this
may
be,
of
interest
to
you.
Council
on
the
28th
is
going
to
be
reviewing
a
consent
item
regarding
the
north
bay
shore
trip
counts,
so
that
is
going
to
have
a
lot
of
data
around.
You
know
modeshare
into
north
bay
shore
and
and
other
information
that
that
you
might
be
interested
in.