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Live teleconference meeting of the City of Mountain View Environmental Planning Commission Meeting scheduled for Wednesday, March 23, 2022.
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time
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up
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A
A
Thank
you
adam
on
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of
meeting
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G
I
So
good
evening,
chair
planning,
commissioners
and
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
eduardo
maravilla
senior
planner
with
the
city
of
monavie,
I'm
here
with
planning
manager
and
zoning
administrator,
stephanie
williams.
Today's
presentation
is
a
study
session
for
1020
1040,
terabella
avenue
a
personal
storage
development
and
an
affordable
housing
development.
They
are
two
separate
projects
but
are
connected
by
way
of
an
august.
2020
city
council
authorized
gatekeeper
application.
I
Here
is
the
project
location.
The
parcels
are
in
the
terrible
area
in
front
san
rafael,
avenue,
terra
terrible
avenue
and
linda
vista
avenue.
1040
terabella
is
a
proposed.
Personal
storage
is
located
directly
adjacent
to
highway,
101
and
1020
tarabella,
the
affordable
housing
site
fronts
on
terra,
bella
avenue
and
san
rafael
avenue.
The
site
is
surrounded
by
several
existing
industrial
uses,
offices,
research
and
development,
and
recently
there
was
two
mixed-use
commercial
and
multi-family
projects
entitled
not
visible
on
the
maps,
as
the
projects
are
not
yet
constructed,
but
the
approximate
location
area
is
shown
in
orange.
I
This
is
a
reference
page,
highlighting
the
existing
boundary
lines,
the
adjusted
lot
lines
per
the
gatekeeper
community
benefit
of
the
land
transfer
and
land
donation.
You
will
note
the
affordable
housing
site
would
front
on
terra
bella
avenue,
and
the
public
storage
facility
would
be
tucked
behind
adjacent
to
highway
101.
The
image
on
the
left
hand,
side
is
the
existing
boundary
lines
and
the
image
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
the
adjusted
lot
lines
as
would
come
to
life
if
this
project
at
a
later
date
is
approved.
As
a
reminder,
this
is
a
study
session
today.
I
I
They
are
requesting
a
two-phase
approach.
A
general
planned
tax
amendment
to
allow
an
increase
in
far
is
only
map
amendment
from
general
industrial
to
planned,
p
district
and
a
parking
reduction
here
on
the
images
you're.
Seeing
what
was
submitted
at
gatekeeper
and
then
the
arrow
showing
what
is
currently
being
proposed
and
the
same
can
be
seen
for
1040
terabella
highlighted
in
gray.
I
I
Here
you
get
to
see
a
better
view
of
the
private
open
space
and
the
overall
design
of
the
building,
which
is
a
simple
modern
building
formed
with
flat
roof
and
prominent
window
trim
the
window.
The
building
is
broken
up
along
terra
bella
avenue
by
a
third
floor
courtyard,
providing
open
space
to
the
proposed
tenants.
Other
building
materials
include
board,
foam,
concrete
cement,
slab,
siding
aep,
standing,
seam,
metal,
siding
and
aluminum
windows
and
accents
now
transitioning
to
1040
terabella
the
site
layout.
I
The
parcel
is
about
3.7
acres
in
sight.
Project
site
currently
has
18
existing
single-story
storage
buildings
and
they
are
looking
to
demolish
them
to
propose
a
six-story
about
285,
000
square
feet,
building
and
a
four-story
about
124
000
square
foot
buildings,
vehicular
access
to
the
site
would
be
derived
by
way
of
linda
vista
and
san
rafael
avenue
here,
you'll
see
a
view
of
the
san
rafael
and
linda
vista
frontages
in
the
overall
design
of
the
building,
which
is
a
modern
building
with
a
flat
roof
proposing
strong,
vertical
and
horizontal
orange
trim.
I
Here
is
the
remaining
process.
The
environmental
planning
commission
input
at
this
study
session
will
be
forwarded
to
the
city
council
for
consideration
at
a
council
studies
session
tentatively
scheduled
for
april
12th.
Following
the
council
study
session.
The
project
will
continue
through
the
development
review
and
sequel
process
and
will
return
to
the
environmental
planning
commission.
For
your
final
recommendation
to
city
council-
and
here
is
the
question
that
was
highlighted
in
the
report,
which
staff
will
highlight
again,
which
is
what
we
are
looking
for
answers
for.
I
I
J
A
K
A
A
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
start
on
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
six
epc
clerk
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up,
looks
like
we
have
three
people.
So
when
we,
when
we
do
three
minutes
per
speaker,
that
was
one
hill.
B
A
L
M
M
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
say
some
of
my
neighbors
and
I
have
been
very
supportive
of
the
public
storage
part
of
this
project
ever
since
they
contacted
us
probably
some
four
years
ago
and
it's
just
too
bad.
They
got
delayed,
and
you
know
it's
taken
this
long
to
get
this
far.
My
main
comments
are
addressed
towards
out
the
housing
project.
M
M
My
main
concern
is,
you
know
how
this
project
fits
in
with
the
rest
of
the
area,
and
this
is
really
a
I'm
really
addressing
my
remarks
at
the
city,
because
the
city
has
to
make
this
project
work,
as
you
can
see
from
the
zoning
map,
it's
fairly
isolated
in
the
middle
of
this
sort
of
aging
industrial
park,
along
with
shoreline
gateway
off
to
the
left.
Next
slide.
Please
and
the
main
problem
is
you
know,
their
rendition
was
very
accurate.
M
They
didn't
put
in
all
the
oversized
vehicles
at
rvs
that
are
now
parked
on
tarabella
as
a
result
of
the
safe
parking
ordinance
and
so
there's
very
little
street
parking
now
and,
as
a
result,
I
think
we're
very
concerned
about
what
parking
will
look
like
next
slide.
Please,
as
you
can
see
from
this
map,
this
site
is
not
within
walking
distance
of
amenities
like
a
supermarket
like
a
safeway.
M
It's
a
seven
tenths
of
a
mile.
15
minutes
may
not
sound
that
bad,
but
if
you
actually
walk
it,
it's
not
a
very
pleasant
walk
it's
on
very
busy
streets,
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
be
carrying
a
bag
of
groceries
on
this
walk
next
slide.
Please-
and
I
live
very
close
to
the
existing
san
veron
park,
apartments
which
are
100,
affordable,
and
I
know
there's
this
argument
that
people
living
in
affordable
housing
don't
always
need.
M
You
know
two
cars,
or
even
one
car,
but
at
least
my
experience
has
been
you
know
they
have
a
lot
of
cars
there
and
a
lot
of
times
it
spills
over
in
front
of
my
house
and
so
with
only
less
than
one
space
per
unit
in
alta
housing.
I'm
very
worried
about
you
know
where
all
those
cars
are
going
to
park
and
the
residents
should
be
worried
too
next
slide,
please.
M
The
other
thing
I
want
to
address
is
sorry.
I
haven't
been.
Timing
is
parks.
This
is
from
the
19.
I
mean
a
2014
parks
and
open
space
report,
we're
in
the
stirling
planning
area.
Currently,
there's
only
three
mini
parks
in
this
area.
You
can
barely
see
them
on
the
mark
on
the
map
drive
shown
in
green,
I'm
not
counting
school
ground,
because
I
don't
consider
those
parts
and
feel
a
playing
field
is
not
a
park,
I'm
sorry,
and
so
we
have
about.
M
Currently
we
have
a
little
over
three
acres
and
the
population
2010
was
almost
10
000.
That's
far
below
sort
of
the
recommended
three
acres
per
thousand
people
now
there's
a
park
coming
along,
hopefully
with
cypress
point
at
1.3
acres,
but
you
know
there's
a
whole
slew
of
projects
being
proposed
and
actually
most
of
these
are
entitled
in
this
area,
as
you
can
see
in
the
lower
part
of
the
slide,
and
that
totals
including
out
the
tara
bella
1400
units,
which
is
about
3
000
people
and
we're
only
adding
this
1.34
acre
park
at
cypress
point.
M
And
so
the
ratio
is
still.
You
know
about
0.4
acres
per
thousand
residents,
which
is
really
really
low,
and
I
think
it's
up
to
the
city
to
do
something
about
that.
They
really
need
to
use
some
of
these
parking
movies
and
seriously
acquire
some
property
and
build
us.
Some
parks
next
slide.
Please,
and
so.
M
B
B
D
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
rick
spelaine.
I
am
a
resident
of
steel
in
the
states.
I
have
lived
here
since
2013.,
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
neighborhood
and
the
light
industrial
resident
a
light
industrial
complex
behind
it
and
I've
seen
it
change
over
the
years
and
I've
seen
how
san
veron
park
has
been
used
and
I've
seen
how
the
parking
outside
san
joan
park
has
been
used,
and
it's
a
wonderful
area.
I
think
mountain
view
is
a
wonderful
area
and
I'm
very
excited
about
people
coming
to
live
here.
D
And
the
only
way
it
can
be
done
is
with
a
holistic
thought
out.
Plan
where
parks
and
housing
go
together,
hand
in
hand,
not
piecemeal
one
at
a
time,
because
if
you
follow
the
greedy
algorithm
on
this
one,
we're
going
to
create
an
area
that
no
one
wants
to
live
in.
Even
though
we
have
lots
of
housing
and
that's
exactly
what
we
want
to
avoid.
D
That's
what
urban
planning
is
and
that's
what
we
were
promised
by
this
council
and
by
this
by
these
committees
and
and
we
expect
it
and
everybody
who's
going
to
live
here-
will
expect
the
same,
and
everyone
will
be
held
accountable
for
for
the
planning
or
lack
thereof.
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
me
out.
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
details
on
the
project
and
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
N
Eddie,
yes,
edie.
Thank
you.
People
who
choose
to
live
at
this
future,
affordable
housing
site
will
make
a
choice
to
live
there,
and
you
know,
though
it
has
its
ups
and
its
downs.
Some
people
might
not
choose
to
apply
to
live
there
if
they
think
they'd
be
bothered
by
white
noise
from
101
and
other
people
might
think
they
would
not
want
to
live
there
if
it's
very
important
to
them
to
have
close
walkable
access
to
many
parks
or
to
large
parks.
N
But
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
don't
really
either
at
a
stage
of
their
life
where
they
don't
need
excessive
access
to
parks,
and
they
may
find
this
a
really
wonderful
place,
and
so
I
think
the
lack
of
park
space
people
will
sort
themselves
out
and
the
people
who
are
able
and
they'll
be
on
a
wait
list.
I
assume
to
get
in
here
to
be
lucky
enough
to
live
here.
They'll
have
made
that
choice
and
they'll
be
happy
with
what's
offered
so
the
biggest
problem
is
our
housing
crisis
and
the
lack
of
affordable
housing.
N
N
So
I
strongly
support
this
project
and
especially
the
affordable
housing
part
of
it
and
the
people
who
win
the
lottery
and
are
able
to
move
in
will
feel
lucky
and
I
drove
over
there
this
afternoon
and
I
didn't
see
a
lot
of
over
parking
or
I
mean
terra
bella.
It
does
have
many
oversized
vehicles
parked
on
it,
but
people
will
work
it
out,
and
you
know
I
think
many
of
the
people
there
may
choose
to
use
bicycles
instead
of
cars.
N
O
Hi
yeah
so
yeah.
One
of
my
concerns
also
was
the
lack
of
parks
in
that
area.
I
don't
think
it
means
it
shouldn't
happen.
I
do
think
we
need
affordable
housing.
Yeah,
maybe
they'll
feel
like
they
won
the
lottery
if
they
get
into
it,
but
wouldn't
they
feel
like
they
want
an
even
bigger
jackpot
if
they
also
had
a
park
for
their
kids
to
play
at
and
to
walk
to
and
to
enjoy.
O
A
P
If
you
choose
to
recommend
to
the
city
council
to
go
ahead
with
this
project,
there
will
be
changes.
There
will
be
discussion
about
parking.
There
will
be
discussion
about
the
possibility
of
a
park
and
in
the
interim,
the
changes
will
improve
the
development,
I'm
sure
and
in
the
meantime
the
city
may
even
come
up
with
a
plan
for
more
parks
in
all
of
the
places,
including
where
I
live
in
montaloma
that
are
deficient
in
park
space.
Q
Q
Yes,
there
have
been
discussions
about
the
kind
of
like
the
lack
of
sparks
in
the
area,
but
again
for
the
people,
who
are
the
destined
users
of
this
project.
Their
main
concerns
right
now
are
just
staying
in
the
city
completely
that
they
would
have
to
they're
suffering
every
day
from
you
know,
financial
precarity
about.
Q
Can
they
stay
here
for
another
year,
given
kind
of
the
economic
conditions
and
the
wage
disparities
in
this
area
and
most
of
the
time
we're
just
focusing
on
making
sure
they
have
enough
rent
to
stay
in
the
city
can't
really
enjoy
parks.
If
you
have
to
figure
out
every
waking
hour
of
your
day,
you
can
make
rent
next
month.
Q
Q
You
usually
fit
them
in,
because
usually
people
would
like
space
of
their
own,
as
previous
studies
and
stuff
have
shown
that,
usually,
when
you
build
these
kind
of
projects,
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
in
them
are
people
from
the
area
who
are
perhaps
in
rvs,
perhaps
overcrowded
in
wherever
places
they
are.
Perhaps
you
know
stuck
with
four
roommates
or
something
like
that,
and
they
deserve
to
have
peace
of
mind
in
a
place.
They
can
call
home,
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
R
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
hi,
my
name
is
katie
and
I
am
a
resident
in
sterling
estate,
so
we'll
be
very
close
to
tarabella.
Actually,
we
use
interbella
pretty
much
daily
for
access
to
85
or
101
and
then
taking
kids
to
well
used
to
be
elementary.
Now
we
are
driving
to
middle
school
in
in
really
in
general.
R
This
whole
terrible
terrible
area
is,
you
know
not
as
developed
as
you
know,
as
as
I
would
like
to
see,
so
I
am
very
supportive
of
seeing
just
just
in
general,
just
developing
this
area
and
making
it
nicer
for
the
residents
for
the
futurists
for
the
current
one
in
in.
I
want
to
mention
that
right
now,
as
this
project
and
like
people
were
saying-
and
you
know
as
affordable
housing-
absolutely
we
need
that.
R
So
I
don't
want
to
stop
something
that
we
definitely
need
in
our
city,
but
at
the
same
time,
this
project-
you
know
it's
not
located
next
to
cuesta
park
or
in
downtown
mountain
view.
So
life
quality
is
not.
You
know
the
first
place
in
a
way
right,
so
I
don't
want
to
compromise
on
safety.
This
unit
sounds
like
it's
families,
you
know
size
why
so
kids
gonna
be
living
there
and
using
the
street
so
right
now
there
is
zero
visibility,
biking
or
walking
on
terra
bella.
R
I
don't
feel
this
is
properly
designed
right
now.
So
when
we
add
in
more
people,
I
just
want
them.
You
know
when
projects
being
approved,
I
want
them
to
be
considered
not
just
project
at
a
time
independently,
but
in
this
whole
area
there
are
right
now
a
neighborhood
existing
just
to
connect
and
make
it
safe
and
pleasant
for
people
to
leave
whatever
their
house
is.
R
R
So
I
encourage
everybody
who
also
supports
this
project
to
actually
drive
and
walk
this
area
and
and
see
what
this
area
is
lacking
and
understand
that
as
the
residents
or
the
na
as
neighbors
to
this
project,
we
want
the
best
for
them
and
for
ourselves
really
really
the
traffic
right
now
or
pre-covered
actually
was
pretty
awful,
and
I
don't
want
to
just
rely
on
future
that
yeah
it's
going
to
work
out.
I
want
that
to
be
considered
with
the
project.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
S
I
hear
the
concerns
of
the
residents
nearby
and
but
what
I
would
like
to
argue
is
that
these
are
not
mutu.
These
are
not
exclusive
things
to
each
other.
We
can
build
the
homes
that
we
desperately
need,
especially
those
who
are
low
income,
and
we
can
fight
for
better
bike
lanes
fight
for
better
parks,
more
parks.
We
can
fight
for
the
things
that
make
mountain
view.
Wonderful
because
I
I
have
I
I
always
love
this
quote
by
supervisor
sumidian.
That
mountain
view
is
a
small
town
with
a
can-do
attitude.
S
I
don't
think
we're
as
small
anymore
but
comparably
to
many
other
cities.
We
still
are,
but
we
don't
have
to
view
these
things
as
mutually
exclusive.
We
can
still
fight
for
things
that
make
the
quality
of
life
of
our
our
city
better,
and
they
don't
have
to
stop
development
to
do
that.
So
we
can
get
the
this
much
wonderful,
affordable,
housing,
that's
being
currently
proposed
there
and
we
can
fight
for
these
items
that
are
much
better.
S
J
J
This
project
looks
nice
looks
good.
I
would
be
happy
to
work
with
the
new
residents
after
they've
moved
in
to
advocate
for
completing
the
terror,
bella
visioning
process
and
really
bringing
life
to
the
tarabella
neighborhood,
making
a
complete
neighborhood.
I
think
that
it's
something
that
council
has
already
started
that
they
want
to
do
that.
They
have
not
had
adequate
staffing
and
capacity
to
accomplish,
but
I
do
think
is
a
very
doable
thing.
I
do
think
we
can
have
parks.
I
think
we
can
have
retail.
J
One
thing
I
would
like
to
bring
up
that
hasn't
been
mentioned
by
other
commenters,
is
a
long-term
design
for
the
public
storage
building
to
see,
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
set
it
up
to
be
converted
at
some
point
into
housing
or
other
uses.
If
the
k,
if
that
is
doable,
there's
a
parking
garage
up
in
north
bay
shore.
J
J
A
T
A
My
own
sense
was
that
maybe
maybe
easier
to
kind
of
capture
the
feedback
if
we
talked
if
we
collect
feedback
about
the
two
separately,
so
that
it's
more
clear
if
there's
feedback,
that's
unique
to
public
storage
or
related
to
the
of
the
housing
site
are
there
is
that,
okay
with
commissioners,
if
we
ticket
approach
I'm
seeing
that
nob
thumbs
up
okay,
so
let's
open
up
the
questions.
First,
the
first
side
first
item
that
was
presented
was
the
alta
housing
and
I
mean
actually,
questions
can
be
about
anything
but
questions
first.
So,
commissioner,
gutierrez.
E
I
E
Awesome
so
so
here's
here's
my
question.
When
we
look
at
the
building,
it
looks
like
there's
green
space
in
the
middle,
and
it
looks
like
that
area
is
going
to
be
used
for
the
persons
that
will
be
living
there
and
the
families.
So
my
question
is:
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
gated
community,
is
there
a
thought
of
thinking
of
maybe
having
this
space
also
be
open
to
the
community
and
instead
of
it
being
a
gated
community?
I
It
should
also
activate
that
frontage
and
work
as
a
as
an
activating
feature
and
as
a
passive
recreational
area,
but
pertaining
to
the
other
question.
Now
that's
something
that
has
not
been
spoken
about
to
the
applicant,
but
I'm
glad
to
to
bring
that
up
with
the
applicant
or
maybe
the
applicant
can
further
elaborate
on
on
that,
because
they
are
here
today.
K
Sure
appreciate
the
the
thought
and,
and
as
staff
pointed
out,
you
know
we
in
our
projects
like
lot
12
and
this
one
we
have
tried
to
incorporate
a
publicly
accessible
portion
of
the
project.
In
this
case
it
is
the
public
publicly
accessible
plaza,
that
is
on
the
ground
floor
there
near
the
corner
of
san
rafael
and
terra
bella.
I
think
it
would
be
difficult
to
get
access
public
access
up
to
that
podium
level
plaza.
K
It
is
a
it
is
a
space
that
we
are
quite
proud
of.
It's
nearly
a
quarter
acre
of
open
space
on
that
podium
level,
so
it
approaches
the
size
of
some
of
the
city's
many
parks.
It
was
done
very
intentionally
trying
to
create
a
great
great
communal
area,
a
great
open
space
feature
for
our
residents.
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
share
with
the
public.
I
think
that
would
be
difficult.
U
Thank
you
and
randy
another
question
for
you.
While
we
have
you,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about?
I
know
the
state
has
changed
its
funding
notification
cycle
and
and
moving
to
once
per
year
cycle
instead
of
multiple,
and
I
wonder
if
you
could
comment
a
little
bit
about
how
how
that
change
might
affect
this
project.
K
What
that
does
is
is
that
it
makes
it
incumbent
upon
the
projects
being
entitled
in
time
for
the
affordable
housing
provider
to
prepare
its
applications
for
for
the
funding
cycle.
If
you
missed
the
funding
cycle,
then
you're
delayed
an
entire
calendar
year
to
initiate
the
project.
So
what
the
state
hasn't
released,
it's
its
timeline
for
funding
cycle,
assuming
it's
roughly
the
same
as
this
year.
It
would.
We
would
need
to
get
this
project
entitled
by
by
the
end
of
the
year
or
early
next
year,
at
the
very
latest.
V
I
C
Yeah,
I
I
I
hope
we
at
some
point
soon
have
a
conversation
about
the
the
the
value
of
a
precise
plan.
Here
I
mean
I,
I
noticed
with
great
interest,
there's
a
lot
of
buildings
going
up
in
this
neighborhood,
the
big
ones
we've.
This
is
a
neighborhood
in
transition
transitioning
from
industrial
into
residential.
That's
a
big
change!
We've
already
heard
from
some
of
the
folks
today
that
we
have
insufficient
park
and
open
space
in
that
larger
neighborhood.
C
I
Overall,
it's
probably
going
to
be
an
eight-month
process,
but
the
study
session
would
likely
be
done,
obviously
before
the
completion
of
the
entire
sql
process.
So
it's
not
yet
started.
It
is
part
of
the
scope
of
work,
so
I
don't
have
an
exact
date
for
you,
but
within
those
eight
months
of
officially
executing
the
contracts
to
start
the
scope
before
for
the
sequel,
work.
Okay,.
C
Months,
correct,
okay,
cool,
thank
you
and
a
question
for
randy,
or
maybe
just
a.
I
want
to
put
a
flag
in
something
for
me
ensuring
that
the
residents,
and
particularly
residents
that
have
minors
that
really
good
internet
access
is
critical,
because
this
is
something
that
we've
seen
has
been
a
problem
for
a
lot
of
young
people
during
copenhagen,
because
I
had
to
go
as
I
told
randy,
they
have
to
go
park
in
front
of
burger
king
to
get
reasonable
wi-fi,
so
they
can
do
their
homework.
I'll.
C
So
that's
a
question
I'll
ask
again,
and
you
don't
have
to
answer
it
now,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
it's
probably
too
early
to
say
I
just
wanted
the
flag.
That's.
I
think
that
that's
really
important
to
talk
about,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
talk
in
greater
detail
about
it
later
on.
When
this
comes
back
in
front
of
you,
you
can
see
that
was
it.
F
K
At
this
point
we
haven't,
you
know
it
is
positioned
that
it
could
be
publicly
accessible.
We
haven't
made
a
decision.
You
know
we
haven't
really
just
designed
or
anticipated
that
it
would
be
open
to
the
public.
There
are
again
limitations
on
the
use
of
those
state,
housing
funds
and
tax
credits
for
publicly
accessible
space.
K
In
the
case
of
lot
12,
where
we
are
incorporating
publicly
accessible
tenant
spaces
into
the
building,
the
city
is
stepping
in
to
essentially
subsidize
those
the
cost
of
those
spaces,
acknowledging
that
state
funds
and
tax
credits
can't
be
used
to
pay
for
it.
So
that
would
have
to
be
a
conversation.
We'd
have
have
with
the
city
about
their
interest
in
in
in
subsidizing
that
space
for
public
access.
A
I
Yeah
great
question:
we
are
definitely
within
a
region
of
getting
that
complete
soon.
We
are
on
updating
the
scope
of
work,
I'm
expecting
a
return
on
that
scope
sometime
next
week
and
then
we'll
assuming
everything
on
there
is
ready
to
go.
We'll
just
get
payment
from
the
applicants
on
that
to
officially
initiate
the
contract,
which
will
take
a
few
weeks
before
again
assuming
the
scope
of
work
is
ready
to
go
and
the
applicants
are
ready
to
pay.
It
could
hypothetically
be
done
in
a
few
weeks.
A
A
T
T
I
think
it's
evolved
quite
a
bit,
I
think,
for
the
better
and
looking
at
the
the
differences
between
what
was
proposed
in
the
previous
iteration
or
the
most
recent
iteration
compared
to
now,
I
don't
have
any
issues
with
the
revised
building
heights
on
either
the
the
storage
parcel
or
the
affordable
housing
parcel.
I
think
the
design
modifications
that
staff
has
identified
for
both
makes
sense
to
me
and
I
don't
have
any
additional
design
recommendations.
T
T
I
the
only
concern
that
I
originally
had
that
I
think
changed
from
the
last
time
I
saw
it
was
the
the
phasing
of
the
of
the
project
in
terms
of
the
the
storage
and
and
phase
one
versus
phase
two,
and
I
had
some
of
those
most
of
those
concerns
were
laid
in
a
meeting
with
the
applicant
where
we
talked
about
what
happens,
if
the
I
think
the
the
affordable
housing
will
get
built
regardless.
But
there
is
a
phase,
two
of
the
storage
that
you
know.
T
So
that
was
my
primary
concern
which
has
been
addressed.
So
I
think
overall,
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
this
moving
forward
with
the
revised
building
heights
in
the
current
proposal
and
and
supportive
of
staff's
design
modification
recommendations
for
for
the
benefit
of
everyone.
In
case,
it's
helpful
with
respect
to
precise
plans,
parks
and
planning
and
all
those
other
things
we.
I
very
distinctly
remember
some
of
those
meetings
we
we
actually.
T
T
T
It
takes
a
while
to
do,
but
it's
it's
it's
the
way
that
we
plan
those
things.
So
hopefully,
at
some
point
there
will
be
enough
appetite
to
do
that
again
and
the
staff
resources
to
do
it
and
and
but
that
will
ultimately
be
up
to
the
council
and
and
the
residents.
So
I
just
wanted
to
provide
that
background
that
we
we
had
looked
at
those
things.
It
just
didn't
work
out
at
the
time
and
we
we
sort
of
sort
of
basically
punted.
U
U
I
appreciate
the
feedback
and
wanting
to
make
it
look
as
nice
as
possible,
but
if
that
in
any
way
delays
the
project
or
adds
to
the
cost,
I
think
those
were
the
areas
where
I
had
a
little
bit
of
concern
and
just
because
there
isn't
really
a
an
audience
or
or
stakeholder
looking
at
the
building
materials
on
the
rear
side.
So
I'd
rather
have
that
focus
on
the
street
finish.
C
Yeah,
I
think
commissioner
harry
meyer
said
it
really
well,
and
I
agree
with
her
for
the
height
requirements,
I'm
fine
with
the
way
we've
done
the
height.
In
fact,
I
like
it
that
the
ultimate
building
actually
gets
to
pop
up
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
than
the
storage
facility
between
it
and
the
freeway.
C
C
My
my
hope
would
be
that
when
we
look
at
potential
further
design
changes
that
we
are
being
mindful
of
additional
cost,
I
think
you
know
it's
easy
to
recommend
stuff
when
you
don't
have
to
pay
for
it,
and-
and
that
is
part
of
our
job-
to
sort
of
improve
the
design
of
things.
But
I
just
hope
that
we're
really
mindful
about
cost,
because
I
would
hate
to
see
the
viability
of
this
challenged
anyway,
because
again,
100,
affordable
building
of
this
size.
C
A
I
have
no
problem
with
the
law,
but
it
does
create
a
situation
where
they're,
starting
at
a
they,
have
a
higher
cost
in
the
construction
side,
and
so
we
need
to
be
very,
very
careful
on
as
we
look
at
design
elements
as
to
whether
those
changes
are
something
that
can
be
done
in
a
way
that
allows
alta
housing
to
do
it
in
an
expense
neutral
way.
I
would
agree
with
commissioner
hermeyer
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
a
wall.
That's
going
to
be
25
feet
away
from
a
storage
building
doesn't
seem
like
a
good
investment.
A
J
A
Visible
so
I'm
open
to
the
idea
of
the
you
know
of
the
design
changes
I'm
okay
with
the
height,
but
I
really
think
staff
needs
to
be
very
conscious
of
doing
things
in
a
way.
That's
expense
neutral
for
alter
housing
so
that
the
project
remains
feasible
going
forward,
and
we
try
to
be
very
conscious
of
that
and
I'm
I'm
willing
to
sacrifice
a
little
bit
of
the
pretty
to
make
sure
that
it
still
becomes
financially
viable
to
move
ahead.
So
that's
I'm.
I
really
think
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
F
Thank
you,
chair,
cranston
yeah,
so
I'm
gonna
skip
a
little
bit
ahead
to
the
portion
of
that
public
storage
building
as
well,
and
the
reason
why
is
because
I
I
also
agree
wholeheartedly
with
the
notion
or
even
that
new
specific
phrasing
cost
neutral
when
it
comes
to
this
project,
I'm
140,
100,
affordable,
super
special.
You
don't
see
this
come
around
too
often,
but
I
do
want
to
kind
of
you
know,
convey
a
similar
thinking
that
I
believe
ought
to
extend
to
that
public
storage
building.
F
You
know
without
taking
credit
for
for
this.
You
know,
I
think
one
thing
I
heard
is
you
know
we
ought
to
be
mindful
as
well
about
not
trying
to
create
the
getty
museum
of
public
storage
sites,
because
these
are
in
fact
tied,
and
so,
whereas
you
know
yes,
design
is
something
that
you
know.
Personally,
I
I
think
is
very
important.
You
know
I
definitely
don't
denigrate
or
overlook
the
importance
of
having
something
that
is
appropriately
and
well
designed.
F
I
also
think
that
you
know,
given
the
special
circumstances,
the
last
thing
that
you
know
personally
and
I
believe
as
a
commissioner
who
took
you,
know
to
do
whatever
I
think
is
best
for
the
city.
You
know
I.
I
think
it
would
be
a
very
bad
outcome.
If
you
know
kind
of
rehashing
design
over
and
over
on
either
of
these
portions
would
lead
to
the
missing
of
that.
F
V
Hi
thanks
yeah.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
the
two
entities
coming
together
and
doing
that
land
donation
or
land
swap
yes
providing
the
land
so
that
they
could
front
terrible
the
residential
could
front
terrible.
I
think
that
was
very
clever
and
very
much
appreciate
the
coordination
and
cooperation
between
the
two
and
I
think,
maybe
staff
had
a
hand
in
that
directing
that
change
as
well.
So
thank
you.
I
am
in
agreement
with
the
floor
heights.
I'm
okay
with
that
yeah.
It
is
unfortunate.
We
didn't
get
a
precise
plan.
V
That
is
exactly
where
you,
you
know,
determine
where
the
parks
are,
and
I
know
the
parking
will
be
looked
at.
So
that
was
a
question
I
had
in
the
back
of
my
head
as
well.
I
would
say
the
public
storage
design
wise
to
me
is
is
okay,
it's
it's
storage
and
I
think
compared
to
what
was
there
before.
It
is
dramatically
better,
and
I
don't
know
this
may
speak
to
my
ignorance
in
the
financing,
but
I
would
go
ahead
and
look
at
how
the
alta
housing
project
could
be
designed
a
little
better.
V
I
think
there's
still
a
little
bit
work
to
be
done
in
the
aesthetics
and
if
everyone's
okay
with
it
and
council,
says
okay,
if
the
money
that
public
storage
was
going
to
use
to
further
design
their
end,
if
they
could
chuck
it
on
over
and
help
alta
housing
so
that
the
front
of
frontage
along
terra
bella
could
be
improved.
I
think
that
would
be
an
all-around
win-win,
just
my
two
cents,
but
otherwise
I
am
in
favor
of
staff
recommendations.
A
E
E
I'm
not
sure
if
I
read
it
correctly
or
not,
but
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
trees
if
possible,
especially
on
that
lot,
because
it
looks
like
we've
got
something
going
on.
That's
a
little
bit
better
at
the
housing
project.
But
I
also
understand-
and
I
think
this
is
the
most
important
thing-
that
when
we
look
at
these
projects-
and
we
understand,
partnerships
are
key.
E
So
these
two
being
able
to
work
out
this
type
of
plan
and
project
again
looks
like
to
me
an
example
of
what
others
can
also
do
in
that
same
area
and
around
the
city
of
mountain
view,
and
I
think
that
that
should
be
applauded
and
that
should
be
encouraged
and
hopefully
by
us
being
able
to
pass
this
along
and
improve
this
part
of
the
process.
City
council
can
then
chime
in
and
do
what
they
do
to
make
this
even
an
even
better
project
for
both
parties
and
for
the
city.
E
A
A
U
U
I'm
not
an
architect
like
some
of
our
colleagues
on
the
commission,
but
I'm
impressed
by
what
they
put
forward
and
the
attempt
to
to
match
it
with
the
new
google
buildings
down
the
street
and
draw
from
that
palette
and
also
recognize
that
they're
residential
neighbors
and
just
know
that
this
is
not
this,
isn't
a
typical
partnership
and
and
really
appreciate
the
the
collaboration.
That's
happened
between
public
storage
and
also
housing
to
to
get
it
this
far.
So
all
good.
On
my
end,.
A
And
I
guess
maybe
it's
a
little
bit
of
what
christian
yin
has
said
and
commissioner
nunez,
I
think
the
design
for
the
public
storage
site
is
fine
right
now
doing
a
lot
more
to
make
it
even
better.
Quite
frankly,
I
don't
think
would
be
is
a
misplaced
effort.
I
actually
like
chemistry
idea
that
if
there
was
little
things
here
and
there
that
we
could
that
they
could
save,
that
might
actually
contribute
a
little
bit
more
money
to
all
the
housing
to
work
on
the
on
the
on
the
housing
development.
A
I
would
be
all
in
favor
of
that,
but
I
don't
really
see
that
the
design
has
progressed
substantially.
I
think
it.
I
think
it
looks
quite
well
I'm
actually
not
really.
I
don't
really
care
about
impressing
people
driving
around
101
at
the
exit,
because,
most
of
the
time
they're
just
worried
about
the
highway
and
getting
off
right
there.
It's
an
off-ramp
and
they're
just
trying
to
get
home.
So
I'm
not
I'm
really
not
worried
about
making
the
public
storage
look
even
better
than
it
does.
A
A
Commissioner
dempsey,
commissioner
nunez
and
myself
being
just
concerned
that
the
designs
that
the
cost
has
taken
into
consideration
during
those
I
didn't
hear
that
from
commissioners
clark,
yen
or
gutierrez,
but
overall
general
support
for
for
looking
at
the
design
on
public
expertise
that
not
seeing
any
like
people
shaking
their
head.
That's
not
what
they
said
on
public
storage.
I
think
people
were
comfortable
with
the
heights.
A
I
think
commissioner,
gutierrez
and
christopher
clark
didn't
necessarily
say
you
know
basically
said
support
the
staff
report,
which
would
be
to
continue
to
do
more
work,
whereas
the
other
license
from
the
other
five
commissioners
was
kind
of
satisfied
with
the
design,
as
it
is
right
now
and
would
not
necessarily
put
more
into
that.
Is
that
fair?
A
So
another
and
the
main
part
of
your
question,
edgar
and
stephanie-
do
you
feel
like
you
have
feedback
neat?
I
think
not?
Yes,
okay,
then,
were
there
any
other
general,
any
other
general
items
that
the
commissioners
wanted
to
bring
up
going
forward?
That
was
kind
of
the
last
open
element
of
the
question,
any
other
kind
of
general
feedback
on
the
project.
Overall,
they
wanted
to
provide
feedback
to
staff.
I
didn't
really
didn't
hear
anything
really
come
out
significantly.
Commissioner
nunez.
F
A
I
didn't
hear
that
from
commissioner
hamer
and
christopher
dempsey
both
raised
being
conscious
of
the
of
the
implications
of
any
design
changes
on
cost
it
was
they
didn't
make
that
maybe
I'll
go
back
to
them.
Commissioner,
here
my
commission
dempsey,
are
you
the
idea
of
it
being
cost
neutral
or
just
managing
managing
the
cost
expectations?
A
U
U
W
C
Yeah,
I'm
mindful
that
staff
knows
a
lot
more
about
design
than
I
do.
I'm
a
lawyer
not
an
architect.
So
this
is
not
my
specialty
and
I
know
it
so
I'm
not
looking
to
tie
their
hands.
I
I
think
that
my
role
here
is
to
kind
of
speak
to
high
level
values
and
my
high
level
value
is
I
care
about
not
putting
additional
cost
for
little
additional
value
because
I
care
about
the
feasibility
but-
and
I
think
saying
that
ought
to
be
enough-
I
don't
want
to
start
tying
the
hands
of
staff.
A
That's
what
I
had
understood
originally
from
mississippi
is
that
that's
what
I
had.
You
know
that
four
four
other
commissioners
would
like
to
see
as
the
drc
and
staff
work
with
the
applicant
to
work
with
all
the
housing
to
be
conscious
of
cause,
but
not
necessarily
the
requirement
of
cost
neutrality.
A
D
A
V
That
other
items
yeah
just
a
very,
very
quick
question,
because
it's
not
related
to
this
development.
However,
one
member
from
the
public
had
brought
up
the
street
and
wanting
it
to
be
safe,
and
I
would
you
be
able
to
enlighten
us
as
to
where
the
opportunities
might
be
in
the
future
to
make
perhaps
a
slow
street
or
just
look
at
the
design
of
the
street
so
that
it
is
as
safe
as
it
can
be
for
because
we're
turning
into
an
from
an
industrial
area
to
a
more
walkable,
hopefully
residential
neighborhood
in
time.
V
Point
of
view,
because
I
know
that's
public
works
deals
with
the
street.
So
if
we're
going
to
look
at
slow
streets
or
may
you
know
any
aspect
of
the
streets
and
making
it
a
little
bit
safer
at
what
point
do
we
take
that
into
consideration?
Is
that
part
of
the
precise
plan
that
would
happen
in
the
future.
W
A
V
A
U
I
just
really
hope
that
we're
able
to
keep
this
project
on
track
and
and
see
it
move
forward
in
a
timely
way,
because
waiting
a
whole
extra
year
and
to
access
that
funding
window
would
be,
would
just
compound
the
housing
crisis
we're
in,
and
I
think
it
was
it's
pretty
heartbreaking
to
see
the
increase
in
our
neighbors,
who
are
vehicle
dwellers
that
have
relocated
to
this
area
and
the
faster
that
we
can
get.
Projects
like
this
built
and
just
adds
to
capacity
and
there's
just
such
such
greater
intensity.
A
A
Right
so
we
will
then
move
to
so
I
didn't
hear
any
kind
of
broad
items
across
the
entire
commission.
You
guys
can
factor
those
additional
comments
into
into
your
items,
but
there's
no.
I
didn't
hear
anything
that
we
would
have
to
necessarily
take
a
straw
poll
on
on
the
non
the
things
outside
of
the
questions.
A
We
will
move
on
to
commission
staff,
announcements,
update
requests
and
committee
reports.
No
action
will
be
taken
these
items
by
the
commission.
I
guess
I
will
I'll
put
them
on
the
spot.
It's
my
understanding
that
commissioners,
dempsey
and
gutierrez
had
the
chance
to
go
to
the
planning
commissioners
commit
academy.
Last
week,
any
insights
revelations
things
you'd
like
to
share
with
the
rest
of
the
commission
that
bring
that
knowledge
back
to
us.
C
I
am
happy
to
go
first,
it
it
actually
was
really
interesting
and
it
was
the
first
conference
I'd
been
to
in
two
years,
so
it
took
a
little.
It
took
a
little
getting
used
to
being
in
a
big
room
like
that
with
with
people
with
their
masks
off,
but
so
quickly.
The
kind
of
the
four
big
things
that
I
would
point
out
that
I
think
I
learned
was
much
more
about
us.
Actually,
I
learned
I
learned
a
lot
about
planning
commissions
and
not
not
quite
so
much
about
content.
C
C
Another
thing
I
noticed
and
was
surprised
by
because
I
didn't
expect
it
is
some
cities
send
delegations,
they
don't
just
send
the
new
commissioners.
They
send
like
a
lot
of
commissioners,
so
it
becomes
more
like
a
retreat
for
the
for
the
commission
and
I
I
envied
them
that,
because
they
could
take
over
a
whole
table
and
they'd
sit
there
and
kiddits,
and
I'm
like
the
one
guy
from
a
different
city.
So
so
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting.
I
did
see
there
was
a
lot
of
very.
C
I
did
not
realize
this,
but
there
is
so
much
practice
variation
between
cities
when
it
comes
to
planning
commissions.
There
are
some
that
are
five
members,
there's
some
that
are
11.
They
have
different
sets
of
powers,
some
are
are
district
appointed
and
some
are
at
large
appointed
like
we
are.
There
is
so
much
diversity
in
how
plenty
commissions
are
put
together.
I
absolutely
did
not
expect
that
I
was.
I
was
really
kind
of
shocked
by
that
and
they
have
different
approaches
to
talking
to
apples.
There
was
one
guy
I
met.
C
Who
literally
will
not
talk
to
anyone.
He
treats
it
like
being
a
judge,
so
he
reads
the
staff
report
he
takes
in
nothing
from
the
outside
world
and
then
there's
other
people
who
talk
to
everybody.
I
was,
I
did
not
expect
that
so
the
the
final
takeaway
really
is
is
kind
of
comparing
what
I
know
here
with
us
to
what
I
saw
with
with
some
other
cities.
C
You
know
we
are,
I
think,
pretty
friendly
to
to
housing
into
growth
in
mountain
view,
there's
a
lot
of
cities
that
were
much
much
more
skeptical
of
it,
and
I
thought
that
was
interesting.
They
didn't
have
nearly
the
you
know,
the
housing
struggles
that
we
do.
I
also
think
that
we
are
you're
really
pretty
open
and
communicative
with
the
public,
and
I
I
like
it
that
we
are
like
that.
C
We
are,
we
take
in
a
lot
of
input
and
I
think
that
that's
really
important
and
lastly,
I
definitely
heard
stories
of
like
fights
on
commissions
where
there's
factions
and
there
there
was
one
city
where
they
had
the
entire
commission
fired
all
at
once.
It
was
amazing,
it
was
amazing
to
hear
about
it
and
it
really
made
me
appreciate
how
collegial
this
commission
is-
and
I
think
that's
very
much
to
the
credit
of
our
leadership,
our
chairs
and
really
the
good
people
that
that
got
picked
for
this.
C
You
know
the
city
picks
good
people,
and
I
really
love
it.
How
well
we
get
along?
How
collegial
it
is,
how
cooperative
and
collaborative
we
are.
I
really
value
that
I
really
do,
and
it
made
me
appreciate
mountain
view.
Environmental
planning,
commission,
all
the
more
having
get
to
see
all
the
different
other
ways
that
people
do
it.
So
thank
you
to
the
city
of
mountain
view
for
sending.
E
E
I'm
and
I
don't
want
to
you-
know,
take
too
much
time
and
repeating
those
same
points,
but
I
agree
with
commissioner
dempsey
go
hardly
on
that,
but
the
one
thing
I
kept
hearing
from
people
that
were
that
I
would
meet
is
oh
you're
from
mountain.
You
guys
get
the
good
projects
over
and
over
again,
and
I
think
that's
just
because
we're
at
the
forefront
of
unfortunately
where
the
what
the
crisis
is
right.
E
E
If
we
can
agree
to
disagree
and
keep
an
eye
on
that
prize
and
go
towards
that
prize
more
and
more,
ever
after
each
and
every
single
meeting
with
the
help
of
staff,
that's
how
we
can
best
advise
city
council
to
create
the
best
mountain
view
that
we
can.
You
know
it
sounds
kind
of
dorky
to
say
it
that
way,
but
it
was
great
to
be
among
other
people
who
got
this
excited
about
planning
commission
right,
so
it
made
me
feel
more
normal
than
not.
A
Make
me
jealous,
I
I
attended
last
year
and
it
was
all
videos
but
didn't
get
any
of
the
interaction
with
other
with
other
cities,
so
maybe
I'll
sign
up
next
year.
If
they
they,
let
me
stick
around.
So
I
thank
you
both
did
you
have
the
permission
to
empty
used?
To
have
your
hand
up?
Do
you
have
another
item?
You
wanted
to?
A
H
H
H
H
Last
night
there
was
a
council
meeting,
they
approved
the
housing
element
in
general
plan
annual
reports.
They
also
approved
the
sb9
amendments,
I
think,
with
one
minor
change
based
on
my
conversation
with
brittany,
who
was
there.
If
I
get
this
wrong,
brittany
feel
free
to
jump
in
about
changing
the
the
width
of
access
roads
to
rear
lots.
H
In
addition,
of
course,
they,
as
usual,
continue
to
adopt
resolutions
that
these
meetings
can
be
virtual.
I
do
have
an
update
on
that.
I
talked
to
the
clerk
today
and
basically,
what's
going
to
happen,
is
the
city
is
looking
at
a
hybrid
model
potentially
for
city
council
and
then,
if,
once
the
council
decides
to
stop
adopting
these
resolutions,
all
the
commissions
would
have
to
go
back
in
person,
but
we
are
not
looking
at
right
now,
a
virtual
element
for
that,
so
it
wouldn't
be
hybrid.
H
That's
actually
tentatively
scheduled
for
the
april
20th
epc
meeting
and
may
24th
city
council.
So
that's
actually
the
next
epc
meeting
that
we're
going
to
be
having
again
tentatively
scheduled.
But
that's
that's
the
plan.
Also,
I
sent
out
an
email
to
the
commission
about
potentially
scheduling
a
summer
special
meeting
to
review
the
housing
element
update
environmental
impact
report,
the
draft
eir
I
did
get
response
from
a
quorum
of
folks,
so
we
are
going
to
be
scheduling
that
meeting
at
a
future
date.
So
please
put
it
on
your
calendar.