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From YouTube: 9-2-2020: Environmental Planning Commission Meeting
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7:00 p.m. Wednesday, September 2, 2020
B
Yeah,
so
it
was
officially
a
meeting,
it
was
noticed
and
it
was
agendized,
so
we
we
discovered
after
the
fact
that
we
did
need
at
least
four
commissioners
to
vote
for
those
minutes
and
we
actually
intended
to
bring
it
back
to
you.
But
unfortunately,
we
brought
back
you'll
notice
that
you
approved
october,
2nd
twice
and
so
in
the
future
and-
and
nicole
can
speak
more
on
this.
B
C
This
is
nicole
good
evening,
commissioners.
I
think
there
might
be
some
confusion.
I
think
that
the
three
commissioners
were
voting
for
the
minutes,
not
the
number
of
commissioners
attending
the
the
meeting,
but
I'm
actually
not
sure
how
many
commissioners
attended
the
meeting.
The
three
was,
I
think,
the
vote
for
the
meeting
minutes,
because
four
of
the
commissioners
had
abstained
due
to
not
being
present
at
well.
I
guess
that's
what
you're
saying.
B
B
E
E
D
D
D
C
D
D
H
A
G
D
H
A
D
All
right,
so
having
dispensed
with
the
minutes,
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
four
oral
communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
cpc
on
matters
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
this
section.
D
State
law
prohibits
commit
the
commission
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
online
like
to
provide
comment
on
a
non-agenda
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
on
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
6..
Planner
haran
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up
planner
haran.
Do
you
see
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
offer
comment
in
this
section
on
oral
communications
from
the
public.
D
D
I
I
I
Okay,
well
we're
just
going
to
I
think,
default
to
okay.
Here
we
go
so
in
response
to
disruptions
to
the
development
process
as
a
result
of
the
kobit
19
pandemic
staff
is
proposing
when
your
permit
extension
for
all
valid
planning
permits
beyond
their
expiration
date,
which
would
allow
applicants
an
additional
year
to
pull
the
necessary
building
permits
for
the
project
or
establish
their
use.
I
It
would
apply
to
approved
valid
permits,
as
of
march
16th
would
be,
in
addition
to
any
approved,
permit
extension
allowed
under
our
current
current
permit
extension
process
and
would
not
extend
or
reactivate
expired
permits.
This
would
not
be
a
codified
provision
and
would
not
amend
the
zoning
ordinance.
This
would
be
a
temporary
provision
which
would
be
applied
based
on
its
implementation.
I
D
B
D
Okay,
well,
let's
do
that
then.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
6.
planner.
Iran
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up
planner
iran.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item.
D
A
G
Thank
you,
stephanie,
just
a
couple
questions,
and
I
I
don't.
I
know
this
is
informational,
so
anecdotal
information.
You
have
would
be
helpful.
The
projects
that
you've
received
extensions
for
are
they
mainly
house
thing
or
amazing
commercial.
Do
they
cluster
in
any
type
of
category
or
it's
just
it's
across
the
board.
G
And
and
then
I
guess
for
any
all,
it
seems
like
one
year
has
been
the
standard
for
most
cities.
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
if
any
of
these
potential
projects
might
not
go,
go
through
as
a
result
of
the
economic
implications
and
are
there
any
communities
that
are
thinking
of
longer
term
extensions
or
one
year
is
the
next
one.
E
K
I
So
the
cities
that
we
found
that
did
six
months,
that
was
in
addition,
they
we
adopted
their
extensions
early
on
and
shelter
in
place,
and
so
it
would.
The
six
months
was
in
addition,
the
unknown
time
frame
of
whenever
shelter
in
place.
The
provisions
of
that
would
have
been
lifted.
So
I
think
they
were
being
conservative,
not
not
knowing
a
how
long
shelter
in
place
would
take
place
and
the
destruction
to
the
development
process
that
would
be,
and
then
thinking
that
six
months
would
be
a
you
know,
a
reasonable
time.
I
Pretty
much
basically
because
a
year
extension
is
pretty
standard.
Our
our
own
sitting
process
that
allows
extensions
goes
up
to
two
years,
but
more
standard
extensions
really
only
need
a
year
to
you
know,
tie
up,
sends
and
get
issued
their
their
building
permit
and
or
for
their
sub
division
map.
So
we
felt
that
a
year
was
a
reasonable
time
frame,
especially.
I
Right
now,
I
I
don't
think
we
we
received
that
that
feedback
on
15
year,
two
year,
entitlement
provision
and
some
people,
you
know-
pursue
their
building
permits
or
establish
their
youth.
Very
quick
and
some
people
have
their
own.
You
know
path
and
timeline
within
that
two
year,
two
year,
time
frame,
okay,.
D
C
D
So
are
there
any
other
yeah
I'll
just
add
to
commissioner
capriles's
comments
that
this
sounds
like
a
very
prudent
thing
to
do
and
we'll
save
some
staff
time
and
just
sounds
like
the
right
thing.
So
I'm
happy
that
you
guys
are
being
proactive
about
this
and
putting
it
up
for
for
a
vote
at
the
council
or
approval
by
the
council.
Vice
chair,
cranston.
A
D
All
right
last
chance
for
comments
on
this
before
we
move
on
to
item
six
all
right.
Seeing
no
further
comment
from
the
commission,
I
will
thank
zoning
administrator
williams
for
bringing
this
item
forward
and
informing
us
on
it
and,
let's
move
on
then
to
our
public
hearing
item
six
item:
6.1
a
planned
community
permit
development
review
permit
provisional
use,
permit
and
heritage
tree
removal
permit.
D
D
K
M
The
item
in
front
of
you
tonight
is
a
public
hearing
for
a
four-story
hotel
development
at
2300,
west
el
camino,
real,
the
0.97
acre
project
site
acre
project
site
is
located
to
the
north
of
el
camino,
real
between
ortega
avenue
and
south
rankstrok
avenue.
The
project
site
has
a
general
plan,
land
use
designation
of
mixed
use
corridor
and
is
also
part
of
the
medium
intensity
corridor,
sub-area
of
el
camino
real
precise
plan.
M
The
project
applicant
is
proposing
to
develop
the
site
with
the
four-story
153
room,
hotel
development,
which
will
have
an
underground
parking
garage.
The
project
it
will
have
a
commercial
setback
characteristics
as
per
the
el
camino
real
precise
plan.
The
ground
floor
uses
will
include
dining
area,
guest
lobby
area
and
the
reception
area.
M
M
The
project
is
also
going
to
propose
removal
of
one
heritage
tree
on
site
and
removal
of
22
non-heritage
trees
on
site.
As
a
proposal,
the
project
is
proposing
to
plant
30
new
trees
around
the
pyramid
along
the
perimeter,
as
I
described
earlier,
and
the
project
building
designs,
that's
down
to
two
stories
along
the
rear
property
line
in
order
to
meet
the
zoning
requirement,
as
well
as
it
is
in
line
with
and
more
appropriate
with,
the
adjacent
two-story
apartment
buildings
at
the
rear
location
as
well.
M
M
Therefore,
the
project
is
back
in
the
planning
review
process
with
minimal
changes
to
the
to
the
site
plan,
including
changes
to
the
courtyard
areas,
reducing
the
number
of
hotel
rooms
and
other
an
additional
curb
credit
for
trash
pickup.
The
project
is
found
to
be
categorically
exempt,
as
per
california.
Environmental
quality
act,
sequa,
section
15332
insult
development
project.
M
It
is
also
to
be
noted
that
this
project
is
a
tier
one.
Project
development
under
a
communal,
real
precise
plan
and
the
applicant
will
be
making
a
contribution
public
benefit
contribution
in
the
amount
of
637
897,
which
will
go
towards
city's,
affordable
housing
fund
for
funding
future
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
M
In
conclusion,
staff
finds
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
our
general
plan
and
zoning
requirements,
and
it
actually
furthers
the
kind
of
development
that
we
have
envisioned
along
the
el
camino
real
precise
plan
area.
So
staff
recommends
the
epc
to
recommend
to
city
council
to
conditionally
approved
a
planned
community.
Permit.
The
development
review
permit
and
the
provisional
use
permit
to
allow
hotel
development
and
reduce
parking
at
the
site
with
the
removal
of
one
heritage
tree
through
the
heritage.
M
M
J
M
N
Hello,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
hear
me
so
yes,
we
can
hear
you
great
diana.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
Commission.
Thank
you
so
much
for
listening
to
our
our
presentation.
I
actually
don't
have
a
formal
presentation.
I
think
diana's
done
a
great
job
of
describing
the
project
as
well
as
given
the
fact
that
this
project
has
been
passed
through
and
there's
minimal
changes
to
it.
We
felt,
as
it
was
best
to
just
leave
diana
present
and
I'll.
Let
tom
jess
our
project,
architect
say
a
few.
N
M
N
N
F
D
M
B
J
O
O
So
we
are
fully
committed
to
doing
this
project
to
moving
it
forward.
In
fact,
we
had
gotten
through
several
rounds
of
plan
check
and
were
closing
in
on
just
a
few
remaining
comments
when
we
were
notified
that
the
the
planning
entitlements
had
expired,
we
had
in
order
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
were
submitting
drawings.
We
actually
lost
a
little
bit
of
time
because
we
explored
a
few
different
options
with
how
to
build
the
hotel.
We
explored
a
modular
solution.
O
The
only
request
I
have
on
the
conditions
is
that
the
same
condition
that
prohibited
us
from
getting
an
extension
on
the
last
project
is
worded
the
same
on
this
one
and
it's
condition
number
three.
I
would
really
it
would
really
be
helpful.
We
don't
have
any
intention
of
extending
this
any
longer,
but
it
would
be
really
helpful
if
there
could
be
a
sentence
added
to
the
end
of
condition.
O
So
if,
if
there
was
an
opportunity
to
revise
that,
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
us,
but
the
drawings
are
complete.
We
just
need
to
modify
the
drawings
to
update
them
to
the
current
building
code
because
they
were
submitted
under
the
previous
cycle,
and
if,
if
we're
able
to
get
this
project
re-entitled,
we
will
have
plans
resubmitted.
O
D
A
I
guess
two
questions
I
I
had
been
focused
on
if
anything
was
taken
out,
but
the
catch
of
the
the
community
benefits
fees.
Maybe
wonder
if
there
were
other
fees
that
have
also
changed
since
this
was
approved,
for
example,
apartment
movies,
it
looks
like
housing
is
already
accounted
for
because
of
the
community
benefit.
Are
those
also
been
taken
care
of?
Are
there
any
of
those
that
need
to
be
reviewed?
M
So
usually,
when
you
know
the
fees
are
to
be
updated,
the
community
benefit
fee
is
a
special
thing.
It
is
not
part
of
our
usual
fee
structure,
make
you
know
like
a
housing
impact
fee
or
bmrp,
or
something
like
that,
and
that's
why
it
is
very
specifically
mentioned
in
here.
Otherwise,
you
know
the
other
fees
which
have
been
adopted
through
our
usual
masterpiece
schedule
annually.
We
do
not
include
specific
dollar
amounts
in
here.
They
are
calculated
at
the
time
of
building
from
an
issuance
and
the
applicant
works
with
us
to
do
that.
M
A
M
K
M
So
we
try
to
do
it
in
in
our
best
interest
and
for
providing
the
best
service,
but
at
times
it
is
also
being
missed,
because
you
know
the
staff
is
really
focused
on
processing
a
lot
of
permits,
we're
really
short
staff
for
past
couple
of
years,
and
that
is
the
reason
why
the
conditions
of
approval
have
been
written
very
specifically,
and
it
goes
through
a
public
hearing
process.
The
applicant
can
know
and
review
the
conditions
beforehand,
and
they
can
ask
questions
if
they
have
and.
K
Thank
you.
I
know
we
are.
Our
staff
is
very
busy.
So
another
question:
perhaps
this
is
for
the
applicant
I'm
a
little
confused
as
to
how
many
heritage
trees
are
being
proposed
to
be
removed
in
the
project
plans
on
page
l-3,
it
indicates
that
three
heritage
trees
are
to
be
removed,
namely
number
three
number
four,
eight
and
number
four
b.
M
And
maybe
I
can
provide
a
little
bit
of
background.
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
applicant's
orbis
is
present
here
tonight.
So
the
there
is
a
mistake
there,
the
existing
palm
trees
for
a
and
4b,
which
have
been
shown
as
the
heritage
trees,
are
actually
not
heritage,
trees
by
the
definition
of
heritage
tree
as
we
categorize
in
city
of
mountain
view.
The
same
thing
has
also
been
indicated
in
the
arborist
report.
M
I
think
europa's
report
stated
that
it
has
not
been
determined
as
heritage
and
that's
the
that's
the
mistake
in
the
plan
set
where
it's
saying
that
4a
and
4bs
are
actually
heritage
trees.
The
girth
of
the
of
the
tree
is
not
big
enough
for
us
to
categorize
it
as
the
head
history.
So
at
this
point
of
time,
consistent
with
the
resolution,
the
application
is,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
remove
only
one
heritage
tree,
which
is
the
heritage
tree
number
three
along
the
real
property
line.
J
H
In
one
of
the
questions
submitted
by
the
epc
talking
about
sorry
looking
for
the
question
comparing
this
project
with
the
mta,
because
this
project
was
approved
before
that
went
into
effect.
It's
not
subject
to
that.
But
staff
did
mention
that
they
reviewed
the
site-specific
transportation
analysis
with
the
draft
guidelines
of
the
mta,
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
were
any
concerns
that
emerged
when
that
review
was
made.
P
Thank
you
aaron
good
evening,
commissioners.
This
is
renee
gunn,
I'm
a
senior
civil
engineer
with
the
public
works
department
and,
oh,
it
turns
like
you
can
get
a
given
video
also.
So,
yes,
we
did
review
this
in-house
for
comparison
with
the
mta
in
general.
It
complies
with
it.
This
project
has
limited
ability
to
do
bike
and
pedestrian
improvements
beyond
what
it's
there
right.
Now,
it's
relying
on
the
el
camino
precise
plan
to
meet
those
requirements
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
saw.
O
Yes,
so
this
is
tom,
jess
again
the
so
this
is
a
this
would
be
a
branded
hotel
and
the
the
brands
have
very
specific
operating
instructions.
In
fact,
they've
issued
entirely
new
operating
instructions,
since
the
kovid
crisis
has
put
everyone
on
lockdown,
not
necessarily
items
that
would
change
the
design
of
the
hotel.
The
look
the
feel
the
size
of
it
more
operations.
They
want
as
much
fresh
air
as
possible
ventilation,
heavy-duty
cleaning,
they've
changed
some
of
the
electronics
and
the
the
locks
to
make
things
more
keyless.
J
F
K
K
L
Hi
thanks,
I
understand
that
between
2017
and
this
current
application
that
there
was
a
change
in
the
curb
cut
and
I
had
asked
one
question.
Thank
you
staff
for
answering
that
question
earlier.
I
understand
why
there
was
an
additional
curb
cut.
I
was
just
curious
whether
or
not
in
the
initial
design.
L
There
was
any
thought
of
trying
to
get
the
trash
done
along
the
same
curb
cut
as
the
entry
into
the
garage
so
that
along
el
camino
we're
minimizing
the
curb
cuts
since
we're
trying
to
make
it
a
boulevard
in
such
a
narrow
lot.
Now
we've
got
two
curb
cuts,
which
means
people
walking
have
to
then
like
look
out
for
traffic
every
time.
M
Definitely
I
can
respond
to
that,
so
you're
right
staff
actually
did
explore
a
revised
design
or
a
design
alternative
where
the
trash
could
be
included
in
the
same
curb
cut,
and
it
was
determined
during
the
building
permit
phase
that
that
was
actually
not
feasible
in
looking
at
the
building
design.
If
you
can
understand
that
the
ground
floor,
there
is
an
entry
feature
for
the
vehicle
entrance,
but
above
that
the
second
third
and
the
fourth
floor
is
actually
a
building.
M
The
hotel
guest
rooms
are
actually
built
on
top
of
it
and
there
is
a
limited
amount
of
space
that
will
be
available
for
the
for
the
trash
truck
to
operate.
We
were
trying
to
balance
between.
You
know
whether
we
can
avoid
having
a
a
trash
truck
parked
on
el
camino,
real,
which
is
going
to
then
disturb
the
bike,
the
the
bicycles
and
the
pedestrians
along
el
camino
real,
or
to
reduce
the
number
of
curb
cuts.
M
No
because
the
applicant
has
gone
through
so
much
substantial
design
and
they
have
invested
so
much
into
the
building
from
its
process
as
well.
They
were
pretty
near
completion,
as
they
just
mentioned
in
their
commentary.
That's
why
a
substantial
change
to
a
building
design
was
not
exploded
as
part
of
this
iteration.
L
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
explanation
I
understand
and
regarding
the
second
question
about
why
there's
no
parking
at
all
there's
everything
is
painted
red
on
the
curb
and
there
won't
be
parking
when
I
walk
down
el
camino.
Now
it
is
so
noisy.
You
can't
even
talk
to
the
person
next
to
you,
cars
don't
go
35
miles
an
hour.
They
go
much
faster,
sometimes
and
when
I'm
walking
anywhere,
it's
always
more
comfortable.
If
there
is
that
buffer
of
parked
cars
there,
so
it
doesn't
feel
like
you
know,
cars
are
whizzing
right
by
your
shoulder.
M
I
will
let
my
my
peer
renegade
answer
this,
but
I
think
my
understanding
as
a
bicyclist
is
the
fact
that
I
don't
feel
safe
if
I'm
going
to
bicycle
along
with
height
moving
traffic
and
the
parked
cars
as
well,
and
that
might
have
contributed
to
the
decision
for
painting
red
curves
along
with
rail.
But
renee
can
probably
add
more
insight
into
that.
P
H
L
L
J
H
P
G
D
Oh
you're
muted,
oh,
I
think
you're
saying
no
so!
Okay
now
I
see
commissioner
schmeezing
okay,
she's
sticking
her
hand
down.
I
don't
see
any
more
hands
I'll
ask
a
few
questions
myself.
Can
you
just
remind
me
about
the
restaurant
on
the
ground
floor?
Is
that
open
to
the
public,
or
is
it
only
for
the
hotel
patrons.
M
D
I'm
hearing
an
echo
when
we
did
the
el
camino
precise
plan.
We
did
prioritize
the
community
benefits
for
affordable
housing
and
I'm
just
wondering
can
somebody
on
staff
I've
been
reading
up
on
what
we've
been
doing
with
covid,
and
is
it
true
that
we're
taking
money
from
the
city's,
affordable
housing
plan
and
using
it
for
coveted
relief
right
now.
J
I
D
D
O
Okay,
this
is
tom
jess
again,
so
a
modular
project
was
was
one
that
we
did
in
south
san
francisco
is
a
very
good
example.
We,
the
hotel
rooms,
are
actually
built
in
this.
Particular
company
builds
them
in
idaho,
and
then
they
truck
them
to
the
site
and
a
modular
box
is
the
guest
room,
the
corridor
and
the
guest
room.
O
However,
the
hotel
layout
and
the
site
didn't
work
out
very
well.
It
works
out
really
well
in
long
narrow
buildings
like
a
typical
linear
hotel,
where
you
can
just
stack
boxes
this
one,
because
the
the
u-shape
of
the
building
made
it
not
very
efficient,
and
although
we
tried
to
make
it
work,
it
just
didn't
work
on
this
particular
site
because
of
the
shape
of
the
building
and
having
to
fit
it
on
the
site.
D
B
One
thing
that
we
are
doing
and
we
have
in
the
council
kind
of
work
items
for
us
to
get
started-
is
the
city-wide
where
we
can
start
to
look
at
these
things.
Although
much
of
that
ordinance
is
going
to
be
procedural,
we
do
have
you
know
if
we
are
finding
that
applicants.
Applicants
are
consistently
unable
to
provide
pdm
measures
and
they
have
valid
reasons
for
that,
then
we
may
bring
forward
specific
proposals
for
for
modifying
those
standards.
B
K
I
asked
this
question
in
the
written
question:
I'm
curious
to
hear
from
the
applicants
about
your
thoughts
on
the
courtyard.
I
know
some
modifications
have
been
made,
but
from
the
drawing
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
much
shade.
That's
provided
in
the
courtyard,
perhaps
you're
thinking
the
buildings
surrounding
the
courtyard
will
be
shading
it.
K
I'm
wondering
if
you
might
consider
planting
some
shade.
Loving
trees
in
the
courtyard,
for
example,
maples
and
dogwoods
are
both
shade,
loving
and
some
of
the
species
of
these
two
kinds
of
trees.
Don't
require
a
lot
of
water,
so
you'll
be
able
to
not
exceed
the
water
requirements
also
and
they're
really
lovely
to
look
at
for
your
guests
as
well.
So
I
wonder
if
you
would
like
to
comment
on
that.
O
Yeah
sure
this
is
tom
jess
again,
so
the
changes
to
the
courtyard,
the
primary
change
between
the
previously
approved
courtyard
design
and
the
one
that's
being
proposed
now
is
that
we
decided
to
move
the
fitness
room
down
to
the
you
know
onto
the
courtyard
area.
It's
kind
of
a
glass
cube
on
the
fitness.
You
know
on
the
end
of
the
courtyard,
and
that
was
the
primary
change
between
the
two.
We
thought
that
that
would
help
activate
the
courtyard
and
keep
it
more.
O
You
know
more
people
using
it
and
out
there
as
far
as
the
trees
go
as
far
as
the
shade
goes.
We
do
believe
that
there
is
significant
shade
from
the
building
onto
the
courtyard,
so
I
don't
think
that
shade
is
going
to
be
an
issue
as
far
as
trees
go
we're
not
opposed
to
vegetation
there.
We
have
a
lot
of
planting
on
there.
We
have.
O
We
can
certainly
do
raised
planters
and
do
tall
shrubs
and
so
forth
and
in
reality,
the
creating
the
best
most
inviting
courtyard
is
is
only
a
plus
for
us
and
for
the
hotel
guests.
So
that's
going
to
be
the
goal.
All
the
way
through
from
from
start
to
finish,
is
to
create
a
really
good,
strong,
guest
experience
and
if
the
and,
if
we
can
get
some
trees
in
there,
we
certainly
will.
O
K
I
think
what
you're
proposing
is
to
plant
two
new
palms,
which
I
would
request
that
you
change
that,
because
palms
don't
really
provide
all
that
much
benefits
to
the
environment,
nor
health.
If
they
don't
absorb
that
much
carbon,
they
don't
clean
air
that
much
compared
to
broadleaf
trees.
So
I
would
request
that
you
change
the
replacement
trees
to
be
something
that
are
broad
leaf,
large
statured,
preferably
if
they
can
be
native,
that
that
would
be
even
better
but
depends
on
the
site
of
those
two
new
queen
palms
that
you're
going
to
plant.
K
O
Sure
yeah
staff
passed
along
that
comment
to
us
earlier.
I
think
it
was
today
even
and
we
have
no
objection
to
that
at
all,
so
we
I
think
that
what
we
proposed
to
staff
was
maybe
warding
it
to
be.
You
know,
native
trees
to
be
coordinated
with
the
staff
or
with
with
the
city.
To
do
that
we
have.
We
have
no
objection
to
doing
that
at
all.
K
H
You
brought
up
that
there
might
be
some
operational
changes
with
how
the
hotel
is
run
given
covid,
and
while
we
hope
that
this
does
not
go
on
for
an
extended
period
of
time,
are
there
any
operational
changes?
You're
considering
to
your
proposed
tdm,
I
guess
methods
of
engaging
in
the
tdm
things
that
you've
been
thinking
about.
O
The
short
answer
is
no,
we
don't
feel
like,
like
I
agree
with
you.
Hopefully
this
isn't
going
on
for
a
long
time
and
by
the
time
this
hotel
gets
constructed,
it'll
be
another
year
or
two
down
the
road.
Hopefully,
the
covid
crisis
is
something
that
we
look
back
upon
at
that
time,
but
as
far
as
social
distancing
and
you
know,
cleaning
surfaces
and
so
forth,
I
think
that
that's
going
to
still
stick
around
for
quite
a
while.
N
I'll
just
add
to
that
as
well,
which
is
you
know,
we're
too
early
on
in
in
the
current
crisis,
to
understand
what
the
new
operating
procedures
will
be
in
regards
to
new
operating
practices.
If
you
look
at
most
of
the
hotels
in
the
silicon
valley,
corporate
business
is
essentially
down
to
a
null
most
of
the
tech.
H
J
D
M
If
I
may,
I
just
wanted
to
answer
to
chair
cox's
earlier
question
regarding
the
source
of
funding
for
the
rent,
release,
relief
effort,
and
I
was
just
talking
to
our
forward
housing
manager
and
she
confirmed
that
those
are
the
rent
release.
Funding
is
coming
from
the
bmr
and
the
cdbg
funds
that
we
have
and
some
private
funding
as
well.
The
affordable
housing
fund
is
not
being
utilized
for
for
rent
relief,
okay,.
D
I
will
ask:
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
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users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
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6.
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Iran
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up
planner
haran.
Do
you
see
any
attendees
wishing
to
speak.
Q
Okay,
yeah,
I
only
need
ten.
So
that's
fine!
No,
I
only
need
a
couple
minutes.
Thanks.
Okay,
bruce
england,
whispering
station
drive,
I'm
speaking
for
mountain
view
coalition
for
sustainable
planning.
We
didn't
submit
a
letter
on
this,
but
we
part
of
our
mission
is
to
protect
and
enhance
our
infrastructure
for
bicycle
and
pedestrian
transportation.
So
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
couple
of
points
on
that.
Q
A
lot
of
my
questions
have
already
been
answered,
so
don't
have
to
go
into
any
of
those,
but
we
definitely
want
to
see
a
minimal
number
of
sidewalk
barriers,
so
posts
of
any
kind
racks.
I
guess
you
don't
see
too
many
of
those
anymore,
but
anything
that
blocks
the
sidewalk.
El
camino
is
pretty
abysmal,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know,
for
anybody
walking
and
biking
along
there
minimizing
the
curb
cuts.
One
of
the
commissioners
commented.
Q
On
if
they
can't
be
minimized,
that's
great
and
there
are
multiple
plans
and
guidelines
that
are
available.
So
there
is
the
el
camino
street
suites
streetscape
plan,
which
was
mentioned,
and
the
el
camino
precise
plan,
which
was
mentioned.
There
are
also
complete
streets
guidelines
at
the
state
level,
and
I
haven't
heard
that
discussed.
I
also
didn't
see
it
in
the
staff
report
and
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
bikes
issue
and
the
no
parking
that
one
of
the
problems
for
bikes
going
along
there
in
a
lot
of
parts
of
mountain
view
is
dooring.
Q
So
if
you
have
a
car
parked
and
you're
biking
along
there,
you've
got
to
be.
You
have
to
really
allow
enough
space
because
people
do
open
their
doors
and
accidents
have
happened.
That
way.
And
lastly,
it's
not
clear
to
me
that
bicycle
pedestrian
advisory
committee
had
the
opportunity
to
review
this
project
and
I
think
they
ought
to
given
these
bike
and
pedestrian
impacts,
and
that
is
all
for
me.
D
K
P
P
So
the
overall
streetscape
plan,
kind
of
the
conceptual
precise
a
little
bit
more
than
a
precise
plan
level,
has
been
approved
by
council,
the
implementation
of
that
plan,
specific
cips
to
install
bulb
outs,
the
striping
for
bike
lanes
that
is
in
progress.
One
of
those
projects
is
in
design
right
now
and
the
other
two
are
in
future
years.
D
E
E
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
I
think
this
is
a
good
project
for
el
camino.
I
think
it's.
We
we've
noted
that
a
lot
of
the
property
along
el
camino
is
not
not
an
easy
one
to
build
on.
So
I
I
think
that
was
really
well
well
designed
to
make
it
appealing
and
for
give
it
curb
appeal,
and
I
I
concur
with
commissioner
lowe
that
any
of
the
native
trees
and
broad-leaved
trees
that
can
be
planted
on
the
property
to
really
enhance
it
and
then
to
contribute
to
the
greenhouse
emissions.
E
That
will,
you
know,
help
us
achieve
that.
Those
goals
is
very,
very
much
appreciated
and
we
really
support
those
the
native
trees
and
to
make
that
you
know
part
of
the
way
we
put
any
any
buildings
on
within
the
community.
And
that's
what
we're
really
trying
to
trying
to
achieve
here
so
appreciate
your
willingness
to
kind
of
look
at
the
types
of
of
trees
and
to
make
make
those
modifications.
E
As
far
as
the
tdm
understand
that
we
are
in
a
situation
where
it's
pretty
unknown
at
the
moment,
but
would
like
to
publicly
comment
we'd
like
you
to
keep
that
in
mind,
because
that's
also
something
very
near
and
dear
to
our
hearts,
to
make
sure
that
people
are
are
utilizing
not
only
public
transportation,
but
they
have
other
options
to
utilize,
something
other
than
their
personal
car
cars.
So
thank
you
for
re-submitting,
your
your
project
and
I
I
think
it
is
a
good
one
for
our
city.
Thank
you.
H
Yeah
I
want
to
echo
some
of
what
commissioner
capriles
was
saying.
I
do
really
appreciate
the
efforts
that
this
project
has
made
to
encourage
public
and
active
transportation
for
guests
and
for
employees,
and
you
know,
as
the
situation
involves,
if
updates
need
to
be
made
to
the
tdm
and
that
you
guys
are
willing
to
do
that.
G
Sure
and
I'll
echo,
my
thanks
to
you,
the
applicant
resubmitted,
and
I
think
the
only
comment
that
I
had
jotted
down-
that
I
don't
think
has
been
mentioned
before
is
the
reduced
parking
and
I
like
that.
The
operator
is
considering
tandem,
parking
and
and
really
helping
us
get
towards
signals
that
alternative
transportation
modes
are
important
and
and
that
we
don't
need
to
park
for
every
room.
So
thank
you
for
that
piece.
A
M
A
M
M
D
D
There
are
reasonable
ones
to
attract
more
customers,
but
I
also
want
to
echo
what
I
hear
from
the
other
commissioners
that
you
know
I
mean
having
some
native
trees
and
some
shade
trees,
you
know,
would
be
a
good
addition
into
the
courtyard
or
in
some
place
I
mean
just
hotels.
Sometimes
you
know
they
feel
a
little
bit
more
like
home.
D
D
Looking
back
on
the
el
camino
precise
plan,
it
was
the
first
precise
plan
that
I
worked
on
when
I
became
a
member
of
the
commission,
and
I
also
served
on
the
special
el
camino
task
force
with
eric
anderson
here
who
led
that
task
force,
and
so
I
had
additional
responsibilities
with
that,
because
this
was
a
particularly
important
one
for
me
and
looking
back
on
it
now
that
it's
built
out
a
lot,
you
know
I've
seen
some
pluses
and
minuses
with
it
in
general.
I
think
it's
been
a
big
plus.
D
The
buildings
that
we've
gotten
on
here
are
new.
Are
modernized
they're
up
to
the
sidewalk
it
does
provide.
There
was
no
pedestrian
interest
in
the
past.
I
mean
you
know
it
was
just
el
camino
was
a
place
that
you
drove
along
and
you
just
dropped
off
somewhere
to
use
a
business,
and
then
you
just
drove
on
there
was
no
connectivity
there.
D
It's
become
better.
I
guess
in
terms
of
we
had
this
idea,
walkability
and
bike
ability
and
and
pedestrian
interest,
and
I
think
it's
becoming
more
bikeable,
even
though
you
know
there's
always
the
question
of
safety
biking
on
el
camino
walkable.
Yes,
I
mean
this
we're
getting
more
consistency
along
the
sidewalks
and
I
think
that's
a
plus
public
interest,
it's
a
step
up
from
where
it
was
before,
but
in
general
I
still
wish
there.
There
were
more
destination
places
for
the
public
as
we
went
along
in
general.
I
mean
you
know.
D
D
D
In
fact
one
of
the
council
members
actually
just
emailed
me
the
answer
to
the
question
about
the
sources
of
funding
for
the
rent
relief
and
and
and
mentioned
that
it's
coming
out
of
the
rent
relief
is
coming
from
the
bmr
housing
funds
and
cdbg
funds
were
used
for
rent
relief.
That
says
here
and
small
business,
a
small
landlord
relief
program
funding
came
from
the
general
non-operating
fund.
So
I
will
thank
that
council
member
for
providing
that
information,
and
he
also
mentioned
that
that
you
know.
D
That
there
isn't
currently
a
big
move
to
add
a
lot
of
further
funding
to
the
rent
relief
program
from
our
affordable
housing
funds.
Yeah,
and
that's
just
the
comment
that
I
made
wanted
to
make.
I
mean
I
think
in
general,
at
first
you
know
there
was
a
great
movement
to
take
money
from
our
affordable
housing
from
our
bmr
housing
funds
and
use
it
for
covid.
D
I
think
that
was
appropriate
at
first,
but
I
think
also
there
was
this
idea
that
maybe
coveted
was
going
to
be
gone
soon
and
it
looks
like
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
year
out,
and
I
I'm
encouraged
by
this
comment
that
I've
received
an
email
that
you
know
we
weren't
we're
not
going
to
completely
drain.
You
know
our
affordable
housing
funds,
because
I
think
you
know
the
intention
when
we
put
together
the
el
camino
precise
plan
was,
is
that
this
could
provide
affordable
housing
to
people
over
a
long
stretch
of.
C
A
Sure
dana
can
you
put
the
language
back
up
please,
so
I
move
that
the
environmental
planning
commission
constantly
approve
the
planned
community
permit
and
a
development
review
permit
to
construct
a
new
four-story
75
358
square
foot
135
room
hotel,
replacing
an
existing
71-room
hotel,
a
provisional
use
permit
to
allow
the
hotel
use
and
parking
reduction
heritage
tree
removal
permit
to
allow
the
removal
of
a
tree
on
a
0.97
acre
lot
located
at
2300
west
el
camino
real,
exhibit
one
of
the
staff
report
with
each
page.
Please.
D
D
H
A
D
D
D
G
D
D
R
R
R
R
R
R
I
should
also
note
that
arena
is
guided
by
several
statutory
objectives.
There's
an
attachment
to
your
staff
report
that
outlines
those
five
or
six
key
objectives
such
as
you
know,
arena
must
include
an
increase
in
housing
supply
and
the
mix
and
types
and
affordability
levels
of
housing.
It
must
promote
infill
development
and
a
number
of
other
broad
strategies
and
then,
finally,
you
know,
as
the
arena
allocation
gets,
you
know
implemented
at
the
local
level.
R
And
so
you
know,
one
of
our
kind
of
concerns
was
not
only
the
unrealistic
amount
of
growth
and
how
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
implement.
But
you
know
adding
all
that
growth
without
viable
transit
is
a
concern.
And
so
again
we
were
saying
perhaps
more.
The
growth
should
be
allocated
to
san
francisco
and
oakland.
R
Those
are
all
the
geographies
where
we're
planning
growth,
so
it's
very
similar
to
the
planned
barrier.
Geographies.
However,
the
the
big
disconnect
is
the
amount
of
growth
and
you
can
see
on
the
screen
kind
of
the
you
know
existing
households.
We
have
what
we've
been
planning
for
in
terms
of
total
new
households
and
then
what
plan
bay
area
is
is
planning
to
2050
and
that
that's
you
know
almost
double
our
existing
size.
R
We
looked
at
also
palo
alto
and
sunnyvale's
growth
under
this
new
methodology,
and
you
can
see
what
their
numbers
are.
Just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
how
we
compare
to
those
cities
which
are
somewhat
similar
to
mountain
view.
In
that
we,
you
know,
share
the
same
kind
of
caltrain
line.
We
have
a
lot
of
jobs,
we're
very
high
resource
communities
in
terms
of
education,
levels
and
resources
like
that.
D
Okay,
it
looks
like
the
next
thing
on
the
agenda,
though,
would
be
public
comment,
and
so
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item.
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
nine
on
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
six
planner
haran
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up.
Planner
haran.
Are
there
any
people
on
the
line
that
want
to
comment
on
this
item?.
C
D
E
Just
just
a
quick
question
for
mr
alkire,
so
do
you
feel
like
this
is
negotiable.
As
far
as
the
number
of
units
that
is
assigned
to
mountain
view,
I
mean:
do
we
have
any
wiggle
room
room,
it
seems
pretty
extreme,
to
say
the
least
of
the
expectations
for
that
that
amount
of
growth
and
I'm
just
not
sure
that
we
can
accommodate
that.
E
Many-
and
I
you
know-
and
particularly
your
your
point
and
I'm
glad
that
the
cities
sent
sent
the
message
to
talk
about
the
viable
transportation,
because
that
just
is
an
ongoing
issue
for
us
here
in
this
particular
area,
and
you
know
the
the
ability
to
have
have
a
part
or
have
a
a
public
transportation
system.
That's
really
reliable
in
this
area.
E
R
We
will
be
getting
a
large
number,
as
will
other
cities,
and
just
to
reiterate
you
know,
the
state,
obviously,
as
you
all
know,
has
has
made
housing
a
priority
and
therefore
you
know
are
really
upping
the
the
allocations
this
year
or
this
cycle
for
not
only
the
bay
area
but
other
regions
as
well,
the
sacramento
region,
as
well
as
san
diego
and
la
so
again.
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
wiggle
room
because
it
is
based
on
those
very
gross
plan,
bay
area,
growth
assumptions.
G
Martin,
it
kind
of
seems
like
a
blunt
tool
in
the
sense
that
the
city's
progress
to
date
on
adding
housing
elements
isn't
weighted
in
any
way.
There's
just
been
a
this
huge
increase
that
needs
to
be
met,
and
it
doesn't
matter
if
one
city
has
made
a
lot
of
progress
toward
it,
and
other
cities
have
not.
R
That
that
is
correct,
I
mean
in
in
past
housing
element
cycles.
That
has
been
a
factor
that
folks
have
talked
about,
and
actually
you
know
have
made
a
point
of
trying
to
include
in
the
formula
so
you're
right.
It's
nothing
that
necessarily
we
get
credit
for,
although
at
every
opportunity
we
we
rightfully
point
out
the
amount
of
housing
that
we
are
producing
the
amount
of
areas
that
actually
the
epc
and
council
is
well
well
aware
of
rezoning
areas
like
north
bayshore
and
east
wisman.
R
A
A
A
A
I
appreciate
any
comment
on
that
and
then
the
third
thing
would
be:
was
there
any
response
from
a
bag
to
this?
To
the
to
the
letter
that
the
city's
association
sent
on
these
items?
Because
it's
a
letter
was
sent,
were
they
going
to
do
anything
with
it?
Are
they
going
to
respond
so
again?
The
first
one
is
why
why
move
jobs
away
from
friday,
elementaries
and
transit
areas
and
high
resource
areas?
R
R
Can
you
identify
areas
in
your
community
near
transit
that
you
expect
growth,
because
we
want
growth
to
be
near
transit,
so
the
city
voluntarily
included
el
camino
in
san
antonio
down,
downtown
and
eventually
north
bay
shore,
but
what
the
what
abac
found
is
that
not
enough
cities
were
volunteering
priority
development
areas
and,
more
importantly,
not
enough
development
was
taking
place
in
priority
development
areas.
So
this
this,
the
eight
bag
expanded
their
definition
of
where
they
wanted
to
see
more
growth,
and
so
they
added
these
new
categories.
R
High
resource
areas,
transit,
rich
areas,
so
they
so
that's
why
you
might
be
seeing
some
growth
in
these
other
areas.
Besides
the
formal
pda
areas,
that's
one
thing.
The
other
thing
is
that
again
we
discussed
with
abag
and
we've
heard
the
hmc
acknowledge
our
concern
over
the
amount
of
growth
in
silicon
valley,
but
then
they
also
said
we
recognize
that,
but
we
also
realize
that
silicon
valley
has
a
lot
of
underutilized
large
parcels,
a
lot
of
aging
malls
aging
office
parks
that
have
the
ability
to
add
a
lot
more
density,
commercial
density.
R
In
addition
to
that,
as
we
all
know,
silicon
valley
is
continues
to
be
an
attractor
for
jobs,
not
only
large
high
tech
jobs,
but
attracting
other
smaller
companies,
and
other
businesses
is
serving
all
that
growth.
So
just
by
virtue
of
our
history
success
at
creating
jobs
and
our
geography,
we
are
slated
to
to
have
more
growth,
and
then,
mr
anderson,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
comment
on
the
the
issue
with
contra,
costa
or
those
competing
areas,
and
what
you've
been
seeing
in
kind
of
your
analysis
of
those
numbers.
B
K
Law
I
had
a.
I
would
like
to
hear
your
thoughts,
martin
and
eric
on
the
transit
side
of
the
story.
Obviously,
we
lack
viable
public
mass
transit
and
if
the
state
expects
us
to
if
the
state
expects
the
silicon
valley
to
produce
so
much
housing
and
so
much
growth
is
the
state
investing
in
the
transit
area
to
help
us
overcome
that.
Do
you
have
an
insight
in
that.
R
Well,
that
that's
a
very
good
point,
obviously,
and
that's
central
to
all
our
minds
and
when
we
did
raise
that
issue
at
one
of
the
meetings,
I
think
someone
pointed
out
that
you
know
san
jose
is
getting
the
bart
and
so
we're
trying
to
move
in
that
direction,
and
you
know
that's
a
valid
point.
You
know
that
that
is
going
to
be
a
connection
and
that
will
help.
H
I
had
a
couple
questions
similar
to
commissioner
lowe's
question
on
transit.
I
remember
this
came
up
during
our
vmt
legislation.
Discussion
that
tension
between
you
know
is
you
know
on
some
of
these
quarters.
Is
this
really
high
quality
public
transport
and
then
the
hope
being
that
by
including
that,
in
the
the
sequa
exclusion
analysis,
that
it
would
attract
more
development
in
those
areas,
thereby
creating
a
virtuous
cycle
and
improving
the
quality
of
the
transport?
R
Yeah,
those
are
those
are
great
great
points
I
mean
the
hope
is
with
with
the
vmt
process
again
that
we'll
see
more
investments
in
in
multimodal
transportation,
and
you
know
the
different
ways
that
we
can
move
people
around
in
a
more
sustainable
way.
That's
that's
the
hope.
You
know
in
terms
of
community
benefits,
that's
a
great,
a
great
idea.
Certainly
in
our
north
face
your
precise
plan,
the
priority
community
benefit.
There
is
transportation
improvements
and
certainly
community
benefits
can
be
leveraged.
R
R
Yeah
transportation
infrastructure
projects
are
obviously,
by
definition,
take
the
extraordinary
amount
of
resources
in
a
long
time
to
to
do
so.
We
obviously
won't
see
some
of
them,
but
we,
you
know
we
are
constantly
in
either
design
or
construction
phase
of
a
whole
variety
of
transportation
improvements.
In
fact,
this
fall
we're
going
to
start
construction
on
the
shoreline
boulevard,
reversible
bus
lane,
that's
going
to
run,
connect
the
downtown
transit
to
north
bay
shore.
So
again,
a
lot
of
these
things
take
a
lot
of
time.
R
H
R
At
this
point
we
don't
know
we're
ways
off
to
coming
up
with
an
absolute
number
of
what
we
think
or
even
where
we
could
upzone,
but
that's
certainly
something
that
will
probably
be
part
of
the
r3
and
just
as
an
update.
We
are
going
to
the
city
council
in
october
to
get
confirmation
on
kind
of
the
next
steps.
The
key
kind
of
scope
related
next
steps
for
the
r3,
and
once
we
get
that
confirmation,
we
will
go
full
into
the
update
process
and
involving
the
epc,
probably
starting
in
2021.
L
Thank
you.
Yes,
thanks
for
the
update,
it's
very
interesting,
I
I
did
have
a
question.
It
just
seems
like
with
the
numbers
that
we
did
have
in
the
past.
We
were
already
having
trouble
meeting
a
lot
of
the
below
market
rate
ones,
and
I
don't
know
if,
in
the
talks
that
you've
attended
in
the
meetings,
whether
or
not
people
are
addressing
the
fact
that
it's
been
tough
to
get
the
below
market
rate
to
date.
R
You
know
that
I
mean
that's
historically,
been
the
problem
with
meeting
of
every
city
meeting
in
the
arena
goals.
Obviously
mountain
view:
we've
done
very
well
in
terms
of
producing
a
total
number
of
units,
much
better
than
other
cities,
but
not
so
good
in
the
very
low
and
low
income
categories
better
than
some
cities.
L
L
I
had
a
second
question
and
this
is
a
little
bit
different.
This
is
in
regards
to
the
fact
that
if
we
are
trying
to
densify
is
there
talk
about
the
very
important
need
in
maintaining
a
larger
percentage
of
open
space,
usable
and
diverse,
open
space
as
we
densify
you
know,
you've
got
new
york
city
with
golden
gate
park
and
there's
no
way
that's
going
to
get
built
out,
because
it's
so
important
to
everyone
that
lives
there.
L
That
land
is
valuable
per
square,
whatever
foot,
and
yet
it's
worth
it
and
they
know
it
because
they
live
in
that
kind
of
dense
surroundings.
Now
we're
not
quite
there
yet
we're
in
suburban
sort
of
density,
and
we
don't
feel
it,
but
if
we're
going
to
densify
it
over
the
years,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
adding
to
that
conversation
that
it
is
very
important
to
keep
usable
open
space
available.
L
I
just
noticed
that
in
you
know
in
the
discussions
they
talk
about
finding
areas
that
are
underutilized
and
trying
to
target
those
as
development
areas.
Well,
when
they're
under
utilized,
they
can
be
utilized
as
great
open
parks,
not
just
for
building
more
stuff
in
housing
and
office
space,
and
it's
just
as
valuable,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
point
is
made.
D
D
This
will
be
an
effective
combination
because
it
will
mean
that
we
can
tie
you
know,
transit
funding
to
the
areas
you
know
where
we
see
you
know
and
need
the
growth
to
happen,
and
so
I
mean
you
know.
I
guess
I'd
ask
the
question:
look
if
they,
if
they
want
to
project
in
the
nine
county
bay
area,
that
our
single
county
would
pick
up
44
of
the
employment
growth.
R
So
actually
we
did
bring
that
up
and
just
so
you
all
know
the
the
process
that
I
just
described.
It
is
part
of
the
regional
transportation
plan,
so
it
all
kind
of
links
together
and
the
numbers
that
I've
seen
is
that
75
of
the
transportation
planning
for
to
implement
plan
bay
area
will
go
to
just
maintaining
existing
infrastructure.
R
You
know
not
new
infrastructure,
so
you
know
we
raised
the
concern
that,
in
silicon
valley,
we're
in
need
of
probably
new.
You
know
new
new
strategies,
new
ideas,
but
you
know
basically
the
way
it's
drafted
now
is
that
again
75
of
the
transportation
funding
will
be
going
to
operating
and
maintaining
existing
systems,
which,
of
course,
they
have
a
backlog,
and
they
need
that.
But
but
your
point
is
well
taken.
R
R
Yes,
she's
what
exactly
she's,
she
doing
sure
she's
one
of
I
think
three
or
four
santa
clara
county
representatives
to
the
housing
methodology
committee.
So
what
that
means
is
she
goes
to
the
meetings
and
you
know,
reviews
the
recommendations
and
you
know
discusses
you
know
her
concerns
over
over
where
things
are
going
and
her
ideas
for
how
how
those
methodologies
should
be
shaped.
So
yeah
she's
been
an
active
participant
in
all
the
hmc
meetings.
D
Okay,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
wonder
about
you
know
when
I
think
back
you
know,
I'm
I'm
coming
to
the
end
of
a
eight
year
cycle
myself
on
the
epc,
you
know,
and
it's
pretty
much
a
large
part
of
it
is
tracked.
The
existing
eight
year
housing
element
cycle,
and
you
know
I
mean,
as
I
look
back
on
it,
I
see
that
you
know,
whereas
we've
done
you
know,
we've
done
quite
good.
D
We've
had
a
good
production
of
housing.
You
know,
particularly
in
the
above
median
income
area.
We
have
not
met,
you
know
the
affordable
goals
and
but
our
situation's
not
unique
most
cities.
I
think
that
over
95
percent
of
cities
that
are
in
california
find
themselves
in
a
similar
situation
of
not
being
able
to
meet
the
affordable
housing
goals,
and
so
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
about
with.
D
D
Was
you
know
codifying
this
idea
of
jobs,
housing
balance-
and
you
know
we've
mentioned
it-
also
with
respect
to
our
negotiations
in
north
bay
shore,
and
it
was
even
talked
about
when
we
were
talking
about
carabella
as
well,
but
so
what
I
wonder
is
it
seems,
like
you
know,
the
thought
on
how
this
goes.
Is
we
say?
Oh
here's,
where
the
growth
in
employment
is
going
to
come.
Therefore
we
need
to
build
the
housing
without
the
idea
of
saying
that.
Well,
maybe
we
should
do
rena
as
a
linkage.
D
You
know
we
should
look
at
where
the
housing
where
the
employment
growth
is
coming
and
then
you
know,
tie
the
arena
to
you
know
how
much
actually
happens,
and
then
cities
like
ours
that
are
planning
for
a
linkage
you
know,
would
then
be
able
to
you
know
I
mean
there
would
be
at
least
a
there'd,
be
a
carrot
and
a
stick
to
tie
the
two
together.
I
noticed
in
the
handouts
that
you
sent
out
there's
at
least
the
inkling
of
this.
You
know
with
the
idea
of
they
talk
about.
D
It
looks
more
like
it's
a
like
the
carbon
transfer
program
where
you
know
like
you'd,
buy
offsets
or
whatever
it
was
kind
of
mentioned.
That
way,
but
I'm
just
wondering
I
mean,
has
there
been
any
discussion
at
all
about?
You
know
how
the
former
plan
you
know
did
not
work
out
and
whether
or
not
we
should
be
taking
a
look
at
different
ways
of
doing
things.
R
Yeah,
I
think,
whenever
they
do
these
plans,
they
always
look
at
kind
of
what
the
successes
were
and
failures
of
the
past
plan
and
they're
always
trying
to
giving
credit
to
the
the
abac
regional
planning
set.
They
really
do
try
to
figure
out
the
best
way
forward
in
an
equitable
way
trying
to
achieve
all
these
competing
objectives.
R
With
regards
to
your
specific
question
about
jobs,
housing
balance
yeah,
we
certainly
have
done
a
lot
at
the
local
level
and
kind
of
the,
not
exact
one-to-one
relationship
at
the
regional
level.
But
you
know
the
factors
regard
regarding
job
growth
is
a
is
a
central
issue
that
has
been
discussed
in
you
know
the
hmc
meetings
for
a
number
of
cycles-
and
that
is
you
know,
cities
that
have
a
lot
of
jobs
should
maybe
be
getting
more.
R
Housing
is
a
very
rough
way
of
saying
it,
but
not
to
the
exact
level
that
we're
doing
you
know
we're
doing
something
quite
a
little
bit
different
in
terms
of
you
know,
mandating
certain
jobs,
housing
relationship,
but
that
job
factor
has
been
considered
and
is
currently
a
fact.
One
of
the
factors
in
the
current
hmc
formula.
D
D
You
know
how
we
might
have
to
do
rezoning,
because,
fundamentally
you
know,
the
statutory
requirement
for
rena
is
that
when
you
get
the
arena
allocation,
you
know
you
need
to
be
able
to
you
need
to
zone
so
that
the
so
that
you
know
that
it's
possible
to
build
that
it's
illegal
to
build
that
within
your
city.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
that
you
know
that
zoning
might
play
out
over
the
next
few
years?
D
R
I
think
I
mentioned
in
the
one
of
the
responses
you
know
we
are
task
potentially
tasked
with
getting
this
high
number,
approximately
9
400
units
and
looking
at
our
north
bay
shore
and
east
whisman
areas.
Those
areas
together
could
potentially
accommodate
you
know
approximately
15
000
units
and,
as
you
probably
saw
on
the
news,
google
just
submitted
their
plans
for
reese
wisman
of
I
think
1600
1700
units.
So
you
know
we
set
up
the
framework
to
accommodate
a
lot
of
this
new
potential
housing
allocation.
R
One
of
the
nuances
with
north
bayshore
and
east
wisman
is
that
those
areas
also
allow
office
uses.
So
we're
going
to
have
to
have
some
discussions
with
the
state
housing
office
about
you
know
how
many
of
those
sites
can
we
can
we
count
as
it
were,
towards
housing,
knowing
that
housing
is
potentially
competing
with
office?
That
being
said,
I
think
we
would
have
a
strong
argument
to
say
that,
as
you
mentioned
earlier,
chair
cox,
that
we
have
policies
in
place
that
kind
of
tries
to
link
you
know
jobs
with
housing.
R
So
I
would
like
to
think
that
the
state
would
be
favorable
to
that
15.
000
that
we've
kind
of
zoned
for
to
help
meet
this
new
arena
allocation.
That's
one
thing.
The
second
thing
is,
we
do
anticipate
some
increase
modest
increase
through
the
r3,
so
between
those
three
areas,
just
at
a
very
rough
level,
we
think
you
know,
as
we
go
through
the
housing
element
process,
which
you'll
all
see
that
you
know.
I
I'm
personally
confident
that
we
could
we
could
zone
and
accommodate
what
we
get
in
from
the
state.
R
D
D
I
mean
if
we
looked
given
the
uncertainty
around
that
you
know,
I
mean
that's,
why
I
would
advocate
in
rather
than
having
a
fixed
arena
number
having
a
number
that
you
know
actually
tracks
what
happens
in
terms
of
employment,
because
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen,
but
we
do
know,
the
result
is
a
key
result.
We
want
to
achieve
is
appropriate
balance.
D
I
mean
you
know
as
I've
gone
back
and
I've
looked
over
the
numbers
I
mean
you
know.
I
mentioned
this
to
eric
offline
right
that
my
first
reaction
was
that
you
know
how
did
sunnyvale
get
a
smaller
allocation
than
we
did
when
the
city's
twice
our
size,
and
I
mean
it,
but
I
mean,
on
the
other
hand,
you
know,
if
I
look
at
it,
you
know
there
is.
D
D
You
know,
building
support
for
for
this,
because
you
know
I
mean
people
can't
see
easily
where,
where
the
rationale
is
behind
the
decisions
that
are
being
made,
I
mean,
I
believe,
they're
being
made
in
good
faith.
I
believe
the
people
who
are
doing
this
believe
they're
doing
it
correctly,
but
it's
just
not
clear
to
those
of
us
on
the
outside
how
it's
being
done,
and
I
I
would
encourage
if
there
is
any
way
that
you
can
get
more
transparency
in
this.
D
R
Well,
just
just
to
to
note
yeah,
I
mean
two
ways
that
we're
thinking
about
this.
From
a
policy
perspective,
abag
has
been
pretty
pretty
transparent
in
terms
of
what
they're
trying
to
achieve
and
they've
had
workshops
with
the
public.
Where
you
know
more
than
I
think,
95
percent
of
the
public
participants
say
hey.
These
are
great
policies.
These
you're
going
the
right
direction.
We
need
to
do
more,
you're,
you're,
you're,
doing
great.
R
That's
the
policy
lever,
then
what
mr
anderson
mentioned
earlier
is
the
kind
of
a
black
box
of
where
the
numbers
come
from
and
that
you
know,
we've
had
a
number
of
conversations
and
emails
back
and
forth
with
abac
staff
to
try
to
get
more
clarity
on
on
that
black
box,
and
we
do
have.
I
think
we
have
a
call
set
up
pretty
soon
again.
Isn't
that
right,
mr
anderson,
with
one
of
their
tech
people
to
try
to
get
that
more
transparency.
R
D
Okay
and
yeah,
and
the
one
I'll
make
a
parenthetical
comment
about.
You
know
I
mean
I've.
The
last
time
I
was
at
the
planning
commissioners
academy
right
I
mean
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
rena,
and
you
know
I
mean
the
one
anecdotal
thing
that
got
repeated
over
and
over
again
was
how
did
beverly
hills
end
up
with
only
one?
You
know
affordable
unit
and
one
market
rate
unit.
In
the
arena
I
mean
people.
D
People
just
didn't
think
that
that
really
passed
the
smell
test
and
it
sounds
like
you
know,
at
least
with
a
methodology.
You
know
it.
This
will
be
more
fair,
but
you
know
I
I
bring
that
up
as
the
idea
that
when
things
look
very
unfair,
you
know
people
do
notice
it
and
it
does
get
noised
around
a
bit.
So
anyway,
I've
said
enough
I'll
I'll
go
to
vice
chair
cranston.
Q
A
I
have
less
concern
about
the
ability
of
the
the
housing
hmc
whatever
it
stands
for
to.
Actually,
if
I
believe
the
numbers
that
was
coming
out
of
plan
bay
area
do
I
trust
that
the
agency
can
put
together
a
plan
and
how
to
apply
that.
I
I
feel
better
about
that
than
I
do
about
that
initial
input.
It's
the
black
box
that
comes
out
of
plan
by
area,
and
I
I
tended
to
be
troubled
by
the
comment
that
well
planned
bay
area.
You
know
it's
just
advisory.
People
don't
have
to
fall.
It's
like!
J
A
Incorporated
into
the
the
arena
numbers,
and
so
it's
not
an
independent
thing-
it's
actually
part
of
it.
So
I
would
agree
with
you
the
fact
that
is
it
that
experienced
planners
like
yourself,
like
mr
anderson,
others,
look
at
this
and
say
it's
a
black
box
has
me
even
more
worried
because
it
says
that
the
people
that
I
would
trust
that
actually
should
understand
how
this
is
coming
out.
A
If
you
can't
figure
it
out,
how
does
that
doesn't
necessarily
convey
confidence
to
the
rest
of
us
so
that
that
black
box
somehow
needs
to
be
better
articulated
with
that
said,
my
confidence
that
that
will
be
able
to
change
that
black
box
as
much
as
I
would
love
them
to
open
up
and
show
it
is
actually
kind
of
low
all
right.
So
you
know,
I
think
we
still
need
to
fight
it,
but
the
flip
side
is.
I
would
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
bring
back
to
you
to
martin
and
eric.
A
You
mentioned
the
comment
about
the
ability,
the
likelihood
of
the
of
the
the
state
recognizing
the
the
mixed
use
areas
as
part
of
our
number,
and
I
I'm
I
am
there's
no
question
that
I
am
not
as
familiar
with
the
exact
details
of
how
north
base
your
precise
plan
works.
I
am
much
more
familiar
with
east
whistling
because
I
work
through
it
and
the
ability
to
point
to.
If
you
do
this,
you
can
get
these
kind
of
houses.
If
you
don't
do
this,
you
can't
get
the
growth
and
my
question
is:
should
we
be
so?
A
I
would
if
I
were
somebody
looking
at
it
from
the
outside,
that
that
hard
linkage
would
mean
to
say:
okay.
Well,
I'm
confident
that
you're
going
to
get
that
housing,
because
if
you
get
that
growth,
you
put
it
you've
codified
it
and
said
the
housing
has
to
be
there
is
that
same
kind
of
linkage
as
clearly
articulated
in
north
bay
share?
A
R
That's
a
very
good
point.
Certainly
east
wisman
has
kind
of
a
lot
stronger
language
regarding
that
issue.
However,
all
the
issues
surrounding
future
growth
in
north
bay
shore
that
have
centered
around
these
master
plan
ideas
every
time
that
we've
talked
about
that
with
the
major
landowners
up
in
north
bay
shore,
as
well
as
with
the
city
council.
That
has
been
a
key
policy
issue
that
they
continue
to
raise
and
we're
confident
that
the
the
major
owners
and
stakeholders
in
that
area
understand
that
and
again
with.
D
Okay,
I'll
ask
a
follow-up
question.
I
mean
you
know:
we've
talked
a
lot
about,
you
know
like
transit,
you
know
between,
I
mean
other
than
buses
between
the
downtown
and
north
bay
shore,
like
this
automated
guideway,
and
all
this
kind
of
thing
like
that.
Is
there
any
potential
for
us
to
get
mtc
money
for
any
of
that.
R
R
R
R
Yeah,
well
certainly,
you
know
we
will
inform
you
of
you
know
the
final
plan
bay
area
as
it
moves
forward
the
final
blueprint
and,
of
course,
you'll
be
hearing
about
any
draft
methodology
that
comes
out
regarding
this
process
that
the
timing
is
awkward.
I
think
the
comments
on
the
public
draft
ended,
I
think
august
10th,
so
the
timing
is
is
just
is
not
does
not
line
up
well,
however,
we
are
still
moving
forward
with
taking
your
comments.
G
B
B
B
B
B
Let's
see
and
that
pba
is
not
just
advisory
arena
is
an
output
of
pba
and
it's
regulatory.
So
that's
kind
of
a
disingenuous
concern
about
the
black
box.
Again,
if
you
know,
if
we
can't
figure
it
out,
it's
not
open
and
transparent
and
then
maybe
some
thoughts
about
expanding
the
explicit
jobs,
housing
linkage
to
other
areas
besides
swissman
and
then
more
about
linking
transportation,
funding
and
and
housing
growth.
So
that's
kind
of
the.
G
B
D
C
D
A
D
B
B
We
did
miss
the
the
the
english
adult
one
a
couple
of
days
ago,
but
there's
a
youth
one,
that's
coming
up
and
also
some
for,
let's
see
on
thursday
september
10th,
there's
one
for
youth
on
the
17th,
there's
one
for
spanish
speakers
and
on
the
24th
there's
one
for
chinese
so
wanted
to
get
that
out.
There
make
sure
that
people
were
aware
that
that's
going
on.
B
B
Q
D
K
Well,
I'm
not
about
to
report
on
my
summer
vacation
because
I
didn't
go
anywhere,
but
I
didn't
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
the
green
streets
for
sustainability,
a
sustainable
community
symposium,
is
kicking
off
on
thursday
september
10th
for
day
one
day
two
will
be
on
september.
25Th
and
day
three
will
be
on
october.
8Th
some
of
you
may
have
already
registered.
K
K
It
had
one
webinar
in
july
and
august
and
the
next
one
is
coming
up
in
october,
and
the
topic
actually
is
very
relevant
to
what
we
do.
The
title
is
save
the
trees,
please
best
practices
for
the
development
plan,
review
process,
and
one
of
the
speakers
will
be
our
own
council
member
allison
hicks,
and
some
of
you
may
recognize
another
speaker's
name
deanne
eklund.
K
G
Yeah,
I
think
the
only
other
update
the
building
center,
where
I
work
we've,
been
facilitating
a
partnership
for
the
city
of
mountain
view
and
are
very
excited
that
mountain
view
is
going
to
be
entering
into
a
data
data
sharing
partnership
with
stanford,
to
look
at
our
policing
data
and
figure
out
what
alternative
modes
of
policing
might
look
like
in
our
community.
So
it's
been
great
and
we've
had
our
research
presented
to
the
subcommittee
on
race,
equity
and
inclusion
and
so
more
to
come
on
that.
D
Okay
and
thank
you
and
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
you
know
I
mean
our
city
council
elections
are
coming
up
and
I
still
serve
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
old
mountain
view,
neighborhood
association
and
chair
of
the
city
council
forum,
which
will
be
held
on
wednesday
september
30th.
So
I'm
hoping
there
isn't
going
to
be
an
extra
epc
meeting
that
night,
but
in
any
case
I'll
we'll
have
more
information
on
that
forthcoming.
D
Another
thing
I
do
is
I'm
vice
president
of
the
mountain
view,
historical
association,
and
there
will
be
an
event
this
sunday
at
1
pm
a
zoom
event
and
there's
going
to
be
a
webinar,
and
I
don't
have
all
the
details,
but
if
you're
interested
just
let
me
know
and
I'll
tell
you
what
it
was
going
to
be
about,
I
think
nick
perry
is
going
to
be
giving
you
know
a
historical
walk
back
in
time.
About
mountain
view,
over
the
webinar,
that
was
what
we
had
planned
before.
D
So
there
was
that,
and
let's
see,
if
there's
anything
else,
nope
I
think
that's
that's
the
main
stuff.
I
have
to
share
okay,
let's
see
so
if
there
are
no
other
commission
staff,
announcements,
updates,
requests
and
committee
reports,
I
will
adjourn
the
meeting
at
9,
00
44
p.m,
and
thank
you
all
for
it's
great
to
see
you
again.
Even
if
we
can't
see
you
in
person,
I
mean
you
know
I
mean
this.
Is
I
mean
in
one
way
it's
convenient
to
be
at
home,
but
I
mean
I.
D
I
hope
that
you
know
sometime
in
here,
we'll
be
able
to
get
together.
I
I
know
that
eric
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
idea
of
doing
a
virtual
retreat
and
I
put
in
a
plug
for
he
said.
But
how
do
we
do
the
food,
and
I
said
you
give
us
the
coupon
to
use
a
pizza
robot,
and
so
we
could.
We
might
try
to
do
that.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
more
thoughts
on
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
that.