►
From YouTube: 2-19-2020: Environmental Planning Commission Meeting
Description
Council Chambers, 500 Castro St., Mountain View, CA 94041
7:00 p.m. Tuesday, February 19, 2020
A
B
A
A
note
that
I
was
reminded
on
Facebook
today
today
as
commissioner
to
pray,
Lisa's
birthday,
all
right.
So
now
item
number
three
minutes
approval.
There
is
no
hour
no
minutes
for
approval,
so
we
will
move
on
to
item
number.
Four.
All
communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
a
meeting
is
reserved
for
speakers
wishing
to
address
the
Commission
on
any
matter,
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
the
section.
A
B
A
Talk
to
us
on
something
other
than
the
development
proposal
we
are
reviewing
tonight
or
the
nomination
of
the
chair
and
vice-chair.
Please
let
us
know
now:
is
there
anyone
I,
don't
see
anyone?
Okay,
so
not
seeing
anyone
for
that.
I
will
close
item
number
four,
and
then
we
have
a
matter
that
it
was
suggested
by
our
staff
liaison
mr.
Anderson
and
on
the
city
clerk
that
it
might
be
better
if
we
would
move
the
item
for
the
selection
of
the
chair
and
vice
chair.
A
A
F
You
chair
members
of
the
Commission.
My
name
is
jeff
roche
I'm,
a
Senior
Planner
with
the
community
development
department
planning
division
with
me
this
evening
is
Lindsay
Hagen,
our
deputy
Zoning
Administrator,
also
at
the
other
end
of
the
diocese
Erik
Anderson,
our
principal
planner
in
case
there
are
questions
about
the
environmental
checklist.
We
have
representatives
from
DOJ
powers
in
the
audience,
representatives
from
fair
and
Pierce
who
prepared
the
traffic
analysis
and
a
representative
from
hexagon
transportation
consultants
who
prepared
the
TDM
program
and
parking
analysis.
The
project
before
you
tonight
is
located
at.
D
F
F
The
project
before
you
consists
of
four
hundred
and
sixty
three
units.
Three
types
of
residential
units
are
included
in
the
project,
including
townhomes
condominium,
building
and
a
podium
apartment.
Building,
building
heights
range
from
four
storeys
to
seven
storeys.
Access
to
all
of
the
units
will
be
from
a
new
u-shaped
service
street,
which
runs
through
the
project
and
connects
out
to
middle
east
middle
field.
Road.
The
project
also
requires
the
removal
of
18
heritage
trees
and
the
dedication
of
a
future
park
is
shown
on
this
slide.
F
As
shown
in
this
slide,
the
project
is
located
in
the
medium
and
high
density,
high
intensity,
mixed-use
character,
areas
of
the
East
Wisman
plan.
The
project
is
a
residential
bonus,
FPR
project
and
has
an
F
AR
of
2.9
one
and
a
density
of
approximately
77
dwelling
units
per
acre,
except
as
noted
in
this
report.
This
project
complies
with
the
development
standards
of
the
East
Wisman
precise
plan.
The
next
slide
shows
site
circulation
on
the
property,
including
pedestrian
connections.
That
will
eventually
exist,
as
the
plan
gets
implemented,
the
service
street.
F
F
In
this
particular
slide,
you
see
the
condominium
building
and
one
of
the
things
some
of
the
commissioners
may
remember
was
the
treatment
of
the
key
corner.
This
shows
key
corner
as
it
is
proposed
today.
In
this
third
slide,
you
see
a
rendering
that
shows
a
future
public
park
design,
though
this
is
subject
to
further
review
through
the
city's
Parks
and
Rec
Commission.
You
also
see
the
town
how
the
four
storey
townhouse
project
behind
it.
F
The
applicant
is
proposing
an
alternative
mitigation
BM.
Our
plan
is
noted
in
this
slide,
as
proposed.
They
would
include
27,
low-income
rental
units
and
41,
moderate
income,
rental
units,
no
affordable
ownership
units
and
no
in
lieu
fees.
This
alternative
mitigation
BM.
Our
plan
was
based
on
city
council
direction
in
October
of
2018.
F
F
F
As
noted,
we
would
also
add
that,
in
response
to
questions
raised
by
the
Commission,
a
copy
of
a
redline
resolution
was
provided
to
all
of
the
commissioners
clarifying
the
parking
requirements
for
the
project
and,
finally,
three
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
that
the
City
Council
approve
a
vesting
tentative
map
has
noted.
This
concludes
staff
presentation.
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
G
G
Good
evening,
commissioner,
says
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
this
evening
and
welcome
to
the
new
commissioners.
It's
nice
to
to
have
you
join
us.
My
name
is
John
Hickey
I'm
with
Summerhill
Holmes
I'm,
a
director
of
entitlements
and
planning
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
tonight
to
talk
to
you
about
our
project
at
3:55,
415,
East,
Middlefield
Road,
before
I
begin.
However,
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
very
much
to
staff
for
working
with
us
to
bring
the
project
to
you
tonight.
As
you
know,
we've
spoken
to
most
of
you
about
this.
G
We
began
working
on
this
project
more
than
two
years
ago
and
it
was
a
challenge
for
us
to
design
the
project
while
the
precise
plan
was
still
under
development.
Eric
knows,
but
we
really
appreciate
the
effort
that
staff
made
to
work
with
us
throughout
the
process
and
be
flexible
with
us
and
to
keep
us
informed.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
of
that.
G
Senior
planner
Roche,
give
a
very
nice
overview
of
the
project
and
I
want
to
also
say
that
I
thought
the
staff
report
was
very
comprehensive
as
well.
So
I'll
keep
my
presentation
short
and
just
touch
on
a
few
key
elements
of
the
project.
As
Jeff
said,
the
Summerhill
is
proposing
to
develop
463
new
town
flats,
condominiums
and
apartments,
and
a
new
public
park
on
a
six
acre
site
here
in
East
Wisman.
G
G
At
that
time,
the
city
was
still
in
the
early
stages
of
the
precise
plan,
but
we
saw
an
OP
window
of
opportunity
to
provide
housing
on
the
site,
so
we
submitted
a
gatekeeper
request,
as
Jeff
mentioned
in
his
preparation
presentation
through
the
LASD
TDR
program,
gatekeeper
request
was
approved
by
council
in
April
of
2018,
and
shortly
thereafter
we
submitted
our
formal
application
for
the
project
they
said.
Since
then,
we've
been
working
closely
with
staff
to
refine
the
project
and
and
bring
it
to
you
tonight.
G
G
The
site
is
less
than
a
quarter
of
a
mile
from
the
middle
field,
light
rail
stations,
great
location
for
public
transportation.
It's
just
seven
minute
ride
to
the
Lockheed
Martin
station
or
a
12
minute
ride
to
the
Fair
Oak
station
and
for
those
who
would
like
to
bike
to
work.
It's
just
a
10
to
15
minute
bike,
ride
going
on
the
Stevens
Creek
Trail
up
to
North
Bay
Shore.
G
It
also
like
to
take
a
moment
to
highlight
some
of
the
environmental
benefits
of
the
project,
see
if
my
sled
comes
up,
I
may
have
killed
it.
There
hang
on
a
second:
let's
try
again
project
will
achieve
a
hundred
and
twenty
points,
as
Jeff
said,
which
is
Green,
Point
gold,
it
will
be
all-electric,
no
natural
gas
for
the
appliances
for
the
heating
or
for
the
the
water
heating
will
be
installing
so
solar
photovoltaic
on
the
project.
G
Initial
estimates,
working
with
our
designer
is,
it
will
be,
will
have
approximately
1700
panels,
which
will
generate
about
600
kilowatts
of
power
for
the
project,
we'll
also
be
installing
five
level
3e
be
fast
chargers.
Those
are
the
ones
that
can
manage
to
charge
an
electric
most
electric
cars
about
80%
in
about
half
an
hour,
we'll
have
83
two
chargers
and
in
addition
to
that,
all
of
the
other
parking
spaces
will
be
wired
to
accommodate
level
280
Chargers
in
the
future.
G
The
public
path
along
the
south
side
of
the
site,
we're
very
excited
about.
We
do
recognize
that
a
full
potential
probably
won't
be
realized
until
the
site's
to
the
east
and
west
to
redeveloped,
but
then
the
less
we've
designed
it
to
to
lead
by
example,
with
nice
landscaping
and
a
nice
wide
walkway
and
travel
way.
G
This
is
shows
the
North
Courtyard
in
the
apartments
which
will
provide
pools,
spa,
poolside,
loungers,
cabanas,
fire
pit
with
lounge
seating,
outdoor
grills,
communal
tables,
great
great
attractions
for
the
residents
great
assets
for
the
residents
will
have
similar
design
for
the
the
condominium
courtyard
as
well,
and
in
addition
to
that,
we're
actually
going
to
have
seven
rooftop
decks
as
well.
Among
the
two
buildings.
G
Again,
we
are
very
pleased
to
propose
the
the
first
residential
project
in
under
the
precise
plan.
We
believe
that
it
will
provide
the
much-needed
new
homes,
as
well
as
the
the
public
parks
in
the
public
paths
for
connectivity.
We're
also
pleased
that
the
project
is
going
to
be
supporting
the
city's
goal
of
and
its
climate
change
initiatives
by
facilitating
the
shift
to
renewable
energy.
G
A
H
Thank
you
first
I'd
like
to
disclose
that
I
heard
from
the
applicant
today
that
they
anticipate
the
parking
for
the
condo,
complex
and
the
apartment
complex
will
be
administered
separately
and
that
people
in
one
building
will
not
be
able
to
park
in
the
other
building.
That's
the
anticipation
and
that
may
become
relevant
as
we
have
some
discussions
on
parking
a
little
later.
H
Also,
they
informed
me
that,
in
their
view,
there
are
some
areas
of
East
middle
field,
Road
close
to
the
complex
the
proposed
complex
that
are
worn
and
that
that
may
account
for
some
of
the
noise
that
was
measured
in
the
e
IR.
They
stated
that
they
plan
to
regrade
at
least
some
of
that
road
as
well
and
again,
that
may
not
be
public.
H
The
information
that
I
have,
which
was
not
in
the
packet
I've,
done
a
considerable
amount
of
work
with
respect
to
airplane
noise
and
I'd
like
the
Commission
to
be
aware
that
there
is
a
major
artery
into
San
Jose
Airport
that
pretty
much
over
flies
Whisman
in
that
area
and
at
middle
field
and
Whisman.
I
would
estimate
that
the
altitudes
of
those
airplanes
are
about
2,500
feet
plus
or
minus,
maybe
150
feet.
H
H
They
have
recently
submitted
a
a
IR
for
comment,
and
the
comment
period
is
closed
for
an
expansion
to
the
airport,
which
will
build
a
new
terminal
and
that
will
accommodate
their
projected
demand
of
425
arrivals
a
day
in
the
year
2037.
My
own
opinion
is
at
that
time
make.
We
may
see
that
number
of
arrivals
before
that,
but
that's
what's
in
the
ER
and,
moreover,
that
turns
in
they
anticipate
36
arrivals
per
hour
during
peak
hours,
and
that
means
a
plane.
Every
1,
minute
and
40
seconds.
H
Traffic
to
San
Jose
generally
arrives
from
the
southeast,
and
that
happens
depending
on
whether
maybe
85%
of
the
time
the
airplanes
have
to
land
and
take
off
into
the
wind.
However,
that's
just
physics,
and
so
when
the
weather
shifts
the
airplanes
have
to
approach
San
Jose
from
the
bay
and
the
question,
then,
is
how
do
they
get
to
the
bay?
And
the
answer
is
that
they
fly
up
the
peninsula
and
they
take
one
of
two
paths.
H
H
A
I
You
I
may
have
a
question
for
the
applicant,
which
maybe
it
was
buried
in
one
of
the
attachments
but
and
of
the
600,000
Watts
that
you're
anticipating
to
be
generated
by
the
rooftop
solar.
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
what
the
total
demand
from
the
building
might
be
in
terms
of
what
percentage
will
be
generated
on
site
if
there
or
any
opportunities
for
storage
or,
if
it'll,
be
returned
back
to
the
grid?.
G
It's
an
excellent
question.
Actually
I
can't
tell
you
exactly
what
the
total
amount
is,
but
we
do
project
that
the
actual
load
from
the
buildings
will
probably
be
slightly
an
excessive
that,
but
it
depends
a
lot
on
what
time
of
day
the
load
is
arising.
So
you
may
have
more
load
during
the
summer
time,
for
example,
from
air
conditioning
loads
and
things
like
that
or
or
it
may
be,
when
people
get
home
from
work
and
in
their
operating
the
electric
water
heater
or
the
for
the
appliances
in
the
house,
and
things
like
that.
G
So
the
the
question
of
where
the
load
balances
is
isn't
as
much
a
timing
question
as
it
is
as
a
demand
question.
So
it's
one
of
these
things
that
we
work
through
as
as
we're
doing
the
construction
drawings,
but
my
sense
of
it.
If
you
as
a
lay
person,
is
that
some
of
the
time
that
will
be
energy
going
back
to
the
grid
and
some
of
the
time
there
won't
be.
B
I
saw
that
it
was
noted
that
there's
2.5
million
dollars
of
community
benefit
and
in
the
question
to
you
guys,
you
cited
some
examples
of
previous
things
that
have
been
done
in
the
past.
With
that
money,
do
you
guys
have
a
sense
of
what
you
wouldn't
hope
to
do
with
that
money
or
any
thoughts
on
that.
G
E
Cranston,
this
is
a
more
of
a
question
for
staff.
It's
my
understanding
that
and
from
the
response
to
the
question
that
the
that
the
requirement
of
the
solar,
the
feature
set,
solar
coverage
in
the
roof
is
something
that
came
in
since
the
last
time
that
we
met
and
during
the
process
of
it
at
Alma,
I
guess.
My
question
for
staff
in
general
is
when
new
regulations
like
that
come
into
play
during
the
process
of
a
project.
That's
in
development.
What
has
the
practice
been?
E
Her
is
every
project
you
know
required
to
to
then
update
all
of
their
plans
to
any
changes
in
the
building
standards
and
requirements
that
came
into
place
during
from
after
their
project
was
essentially
I,
guess
deemed
complete
the
end
or,
what's
that?
How
does
that
work?
Because
this
I'm
not
complaining
about
and
I'm
just
it
was
a
bit
of
a
surprise,
as
I
saw
thanks
so.
J
The
building
and
fire
codes
are
a
lot
less
forgiving,
I'll
say
then,
maybe
developing
a
precise
LAN,
but
so
the
way
it
works
is
when
a
new
building
or
fire
code
is
adopted,
which
it
was
adopted
and
came
into
effect.
January
1st
any
project
that
submits
for
a
building
permit
after
that
date
is
subject
to
the
new
codes.
So
as
part
of
the
adoption
of
updating
the
codes
they're
done
earlier
in
the
year
intentionally
to
allow
people
time
to
look
into
what
changes
it
may
have
on
the
construction
of
their
project.
J
So,
for
example,
the
adoption
of
the
code
was
done
in
October
of
last
year
to
allow
force
image
time
for
people
to
kind
of
figure
out
and
as
any
new
code
is
adopted,
it
is
kind
of
a
learning
curve
for
everyone
involved,
particularly
with
this
solar
requirement.
For
example,
it's
a
new
requirement,
so
we
have
not
had
a
project
come
in,
submit
a
package,
yet
that
would
be
subject
to
it.
So
if
this
project
is
approved,
it
might
be
one
of
the
first
ones
that
would
be
submitted
to
the
building
division.
E
K
On
the
subject
of
solar,
I
do
have
a
follow-up
question.
Perhaps
it's
to
both
the
staff
in
the
applicant
I.
Remember
in
the
letter
of
exception
the
last
one
states
that
building
one
can
only
accommodate
38%,
but
when
we
met
you
had
stated
you're,
perhaps
not
seeking
that
exception
anymore.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that's
the
case.
Yeah.
G
D
G
Is
something
that
everybody's
it's
a
learning
curve
for
everybody,
to
try
to
understand
how
to
address
this
issue
and
the
recommendation
from
from
staff-
and
we
agree
with
this-
is
to
work
through
the
any
challenges
as
we
go
through
the
construction,
drawing
stage
work
through
them
with
the
building
department
and
probably
in
conjunction
with
with
input
from
planning
as
well,
because
I
don't
want
to
say
that
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
about
this.
But
essentially
the
building
code
gives
some
flexibility
to
the
building
official
to
determine
whether
adjustments
can
be
made
to
the
requirements.
J
J
So
an
example-
and
this
is
just
an
example-
if
somebody
couldn't
meet
it
on
their
rooftop,
they
could
propose,
say
a
material
that
has
integrated
PV
abilities,
so,
whether
that's
a
window
or
an
awning,
if
it's
not
on
the
roof,
but
it
was
still
meeting
the
overall
intent
the
they
could
propose
that
to
the
chief
building
official
and
as
long
as
they
kind
of
do
their
due
diligence
and
showing
how
their
meeting
in
or
attempting
to
meet
it.
The
the
chief
building
official
has
that
in
their
authority
to
decide
if
that
works
or
not.
H
A
number
of
questions
related
to
parking,
in
particular
based
on
the
information
that
the
parking
can't
be
shared.
The
adequacy
assessment
that
is
in
the
packet,
lumps
the
parking
for
both
buildings
together,
but
since
people
in
one
building
can't
use
parking
in
the
other
building,
it
seems
that
it
would
be
more
appropriate
to
decide
if
the
one
building
is
adequate
and
then
the
other
building
is
adequate
and
by
my
math,
using
the
analysis
that
hexagon
provided
one
standard
doesn't
work
for
both
buildings.
H
If
what
the
point
eight
standard
of
parking
spaces
per
basically
sleeping
room
doesn't
work
for
the
condos
there,
the
parking
ratio
is
0.72
and
the
standard
of
one
space
per
unit
doesn't
work
for
the
apartments
because
the
average
there
was
one
point
two
three
in
the
study
that
was
submitted
on
adequacy
and
the
apartments
only
have
one
point
over
nine,
so
I
noticed
that
Mountain
View
has
consistently
been
of
all
the
cities
that
were
mentioned.
The
study,
Mountain
View,
has
the
least
parking
of
any
of
the
other
of
any
of
the
other
cities.
H
H
G
D
G
G
So
the
I
think
one
of
the
key
things
to
remember
here
is
that
the
analysis
that
was
done
included
both
apartment
projects
and
condominium
projects,
and
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
the
Planning
Commission
has
recognized
council
has
recognized.
Is
that
often
the
condominium
projects
have
a
higher
bedroom
count?
The
units
have
have
more
bedrooms
than
the
than
the
apartments
the
apartments
are
often
today.
G
That's
both
apartments
and
but
the
number
of
spaces
per
unit
is
actually
at
one
point
three
and
that
becomes
important,
not
just
because
it's
the
pure
number,
but
also
when
you're
thinking
about
what
you're,
comparing
to
as
Gary
will
explain
to
you.
The
comparable
projects
are
projects
that
are
similar
design,
I,
don't
know
whether
I'll.
Let
him
speak
to
this
I,
don't
know
whether
they're
comparably
located
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
staff
highlighted
and
we
highlighted,
is
how
great
the
location
is
in
terms
of
the
access
to
public
transportation.
G
One
of
the
things
we
also
I
think
have
discussed
with
with
many
of
you
is
that
this
type
of
site
is
is
a
little
bit
self-selecting,
because
people
who
people
will
come
here
when
they
know
that
it's
the
right
thing
for
their
lifestyle
that
when
they
know
that
they
want
to
be
here
because
they
don't
want
to
be
in
the
car
stuck
on
a
shoreline
or
one
on
one
at
that
interchange
when
it's
not
moving.
They
want
to
find
an
alternative
way
to
get
to
work
in
the
morning.
L
H
H
F
F
We
initially
shared
that
same
concern
that
the
rate
was
low,
but
we
believe,
based
upon
our
review
and
discussions
with
mr.
black
and
others,
that
this
parking
will
work
and,
as
the
applicant
noted,
the
proximity
to
light
rail
makes
this
site
a
unique
site,
and
we
do
believe
that
the
parking
as
proposed
not
shared
between
the
buildings,
because
we
have
Apartments
on
one
side
and
condos
on
the
other,
is
adequate
to
serve
the
entire
project.
So.
H
M
H
M
H
J
And
if
I
can
add
correct,
so
I
think
the
the
alternative
option
for
parking
off-site
is
quite
a
ways
off
site
that
it
may
not
be
a
desirable
option,
but
also
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
this
project
is
required
to
report
annually
on
how
they're
achieving
their
TDM
measures,
one
of
which
is
parking
and
how
trips
go
on
and
off
the
site.
So
it
is
something
that
we'll
have
ongoing
monitoring.
So
it
should,
there
ever
be
an
issue
in
the
future.
They
would
be
responsible
for
addressing
it.
I
N
N
All
those
are
located
in
areas
near
high
commercial
districts,
with
grocery
stores
very
close
by
and
I
know
it's
not
your
responsibility
to
provide
a
grocery
store
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
chicken-and-egg,
we're
we're
planning
for
a
whole
district
that
will
fill
out
and
hopefully
where
it
one
will
come.
But
can
you
remind
me
what
the
incentive
is
to
get
one
in
and
what
we're
aiming
for
and
how
we're
going
to
do
that.
M
Sure
so
the
the
precise
plan
puts
a
high
priority
on
getting
a
grocery
store,
either
in
the
village
center
or
in
the
kind
of
mixed-use
commercial
area
near
the
station.
To
do
that,
we
have
incentives,
including
height
incentives.
We
have
minimum
commercial
requirements
that
can
be
applied
to
a
grocery
store
and
we
also
have
public
benefit
incentives
to
provide
a
grocery
store.
So
you
know
we,
the
staff
is.
M
Certainly
put
out
the
the
tools
to
make
that
happen,
and
no
it
hasn't.
You
know
we
haven't
gotten
a
formal
application
with
the
grocery
store
yet,
but
the
tools
are
out
there,
and-
and
certainly
the
precise
plan
does
envision
this-
this
broad
mix
of
uses
so
that
people
can
and
and
provide
there
for
their
daily
needs.
I.
N
Don't
know
if
I
know
it's
to
your
benefit.
Also,
if
there's
a
grocery
store
nearby,
so
I
didn't
know
if
there's
something
that
you
guys
willingly
could
would
or
thought
about
doing
in
order
to
get
something
going
because
parking
ratio
is
obviously
their
trips
more
than
just
to
work,
we
can't
guarantee
that
everyone
there
is
going
to
work
at
Google
nearby
or
so
grocery
stores
the
things
they
require
living.
G
G
Raised
a
good
point
about
actually
about
the
chicken
and
the
egg,
because
one
of
the
things
that
will
actually
give
grocery
stores
more
of
an
incentive
to
locate
here
is
if
they
know
that
a
lot
of
the
people
around
will
be
more
reliant
on
a
local
grocery
store
right.
You
know
if
they
know
that
everybody
in
the
area
has
lots
of
cars
and
can
drive
wherever
they
want
to
go
to
get
their
food.
Then
then
it's
they
don't
have
is
almost
a
captive
audience,
but
they
don't
have
as
built-in
a
demographic
market.
G
So
I
think
that
is
something
that
that
is
a
good
point
to
keep
in
mind
in
terms
of
what
what
we
as
Summerhill
specifically,
can
do
well.
Clearly,
we
don't
have
control
over
any
of
the
other
parcels
but,
as
I
say,
we're
working
with
with
we're
talking
with
particular
council
members
at
the
moment
to
find
out
to
talk
about
the
the
community
benefit,
and
so
that's
certainly
something
we
can
raise
when
we
talk
with
them.
L
Kevin
Ibrahimi
again
yeah.
So
generally,
you
need
several
thousand
rooftops
before
you
get
some
kind
of
a
facility
like
that.
We're
providing
463
with
this
community,
but
you're
going
to
need
a
little
bit
more
residential
units
in
this
area.
Before
you
can
such
a
grocery
store
again,
it
depends
on
the
size
of
what
you're
trying
to
bring
in,
but
generally
rooftops,
come
in.
First,
then,
you
wind
up
having
their
support
system
coming
after
that
several.
L
Depends
on
the
size
of
the
grocery
store,
you're,
looking
for
by
looking
for
substantial
size.
That
would
be
one
of
the
things
that
you
would
need
to
have
unless
you
have
something
that's
much
smaller
and
just
tailored
to
what's
currently
there
but
I
do
know
the
first
thing
that
needs
to
be
there
for
someone
to
consider
it
is
the
existing
rooftops
and
so
you're
gonna
need
to
have
projects
that
come
in.
For
this
to
happen,
okay,.
H
I,
wonder
where
they
could
I
mean
it
seems
that
there's
the
loading,
the
loading
area
that
would
be
big
enough
to
accommodate
a
larger
vehicle.
The
parking
next
to
the
the
park
is
straight
in
parking.
It's
not
clear
to
me
how
far
the
buf
are
of
a
larger
vehicle
could
stick
out
without
becoming
a
fire
hazard
and
then
the
other
parking
spots
on
the
between
the
condos
and
the
apartments
are
kind
of
indented
in
and
so
a
it
would
be
awkward
and
maybe
not
possible
for
a
larger
vehicle
to
park
in
those
in
those
spots.
F
F
F
G
Camilla,
one
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
these
projects
they
evolve
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
hire
very
good
property
managers
for
our
apartment
projects
and
excellent
HOA
managers
for
our
ownership
projects
is
that
they
can
spot
what's
happening.
They
can
identify
problems
but
as
they're
beginning
to
happen
and
look
for
solutions.
So
it
certainly
looks
like
a
suitable
approach
to
me
now,
but
that's
one
of
the
things
that
a
good
property
manager
can
address
in
the
in
an
ongoing
basis
as
well
and.
J
Sorry,
just
to
add
to
so
part
of
the
East
was
an
area
does
have
I'll,
say:
kind
of
designated
locations
for
buses
to
unload
and
load
that
serve
multiple
properties.
So
there's
one.
For
example,
you
can
see
right
in
front
of
the
Samsung
building.
That's
along
the
public
street.
That's
intended
to
be
a
station
that
multiple
buses
could
utilize.
So
if
it
was
truly
an
employer
bus,
it
would
most
likely
stop
at
one
of
those
locations
versus
coming
to
an
individual
residential
site
and.
J
Depend
on
what
employer
they're
serving,
but
at
the
stop.
Well,
so
right
now,
for
example,
there's
one
in
front
of
Samsung,
which
is
off
of
Clyde.
There
is
also
locations
along
national
Avenue,
which
is
further
north
and
then
quite
a
few
of
the
buses
do
go
on
to
the
existing
private
property
of
employers
along
Middlefield.
H
A
H
The
project
is
using
five
foot
sidewalks
throughout,
except
for
that
service
area.
We
were
just
talking
about
and
there
you
proposed
a
four
foot
sidewalk
and
a
support.
Foot
six
inch
planting
area
I
saw
that
somewhere
else
in
the
property
you
had
a
four
foot
planning
area
and
I
wondered
if
it
might
make
sense
to
have
a
four
foot:
six
inch
sidewalk
and
a
four
foot
planning
area
just
to
keep
the
sidewalks
more
consistent
with
code.
L
J
So
part
of
the
desire
for
having
I
mean
I
think
definitely
staffs
open.
If
EPC
is
interested
in
modifying
that
we're
open
to
considering
that
I
think
the
key
trade-off
there
is
just
wanting
to
screen
the
garage
and
making
sure
there's
enough
space
for
plantings
to
grow
substantially,
to
cover
that,
so
just
ensuring
that
there's
adequate
depth
in
the
landscape,
planner
is
really
ultimately
what
we
were
trying
to
balance.
You.
J
H
The
in
the
environmental
impact
report
on
page
four,
you
discussed
the
fact
that
there
had
been
toxics
toxic
wastes
on
this
and
called
for
vapor
barriers,
and
it
also
asked
for
sub-slab
ventilation
and
institutional
controls,
and
monitoring
and
I
was
just
curious.
What
institutional
controls
and
monitoring
are
being
provided
for
or
anticipated.
I'm.
G
I'm
not
sure
some
people
don't
know
what
the
term
institutional
control
refers
to.
It
basically
refers
to
mechanisms
like,
in
this
case,
one
of
the
things
we'll
be
recording
something
that's
a
notice
on
title
so
that
any
buyer
is
aware
of
the
situation
before
they
purchase.
It's
that's
just
one
example
of
an
institutional
control.
It
means
something:
that's
it's
not
a
physical
control,
it's
a
it's
some
sort
of
process
or
or
notice,
or
something
like
that.
G
G
It
has
approximately
44
monitoring
wells
on
the
site
right
now,
so
EPA
is
very
familiar
with
the
site
and,
in
fact,
has
told
us
that,
looking
forward
to
this
being
a
brownfields
redevelopment
site
they're
seeing
this
is
a
key
opportunity
for
them
to
redevelop
the
site.
The
typical
approach
and
and
the
actual
plan
will
be
something
that's
developed
in
conjunction
with
with
EPA
and
the
responsible
parties
and
will
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
EPA.
G
But
the
typical
approach
for
something
like
this
is
to
have
the
vapor
barrier,
which
is
essentially
a
seal
I'll,
call
it
underneath
the
building
and
then
some
sort
of
permeable
space
that
the
soil
vapor
can
be
drawn
out
of
from
underneath
the
vapor
barrier,
so
that
you
always
have
something
venting
the
the
oil
gas,
the
the
soil
vapor.
So
one
other
thing,
I
just
want
to
mention
cases.
It's
not
clear
is
that
the
the
source
of
the
soil
vapor
is
the
groundwater
that
was
contaminated
decades
and
decades
ago.
The
soil
itself
is
not
contaminated.
G
G
H
G
Speak
to
that,
but
the
nearest
sensitive,
receptor,
sensitive
receptors,
my
understanding
is
senior
facilities,
hospitals,
things
like
that.
Typically,
and
as
everybody
knows,
this
site
is
doesn't
have
a
hospital,
it
doesn't
have
any
senior
living
centers.
So
I
can't
speak
to
what
the
closest
sensitive
receptor
is,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
building
that
you're
referring
to
is
actually
another
light.
Industrial
rd
building
I
believe
it's
actually
me
I
believe
it's
actually
either
Huawei
or
Ducati.
So
if
it's
Ducati,
it's
probably
not
a
particularly
sensitive
receptor.
F
O
H
With
every
three
decibels,
the
rationale
in
the
environmental
impact
review,
for
why
this
had
no
significance
was
that
the
center
of
the
proposed
park
would
be
set
back.
A
hundred
and
fifteen
feet
from
the
center
of
East
middlefield
Road,
and
at
this
distance
and
assuming
partial
shielding
from
the
proposed
building
facilities,
the
future
exterior
noise
levels
at
the
center
of
the
proposed
park
would
be
up
to
64
DBA.
But
it
seems
to
me
the
spirit
of
this.
B
F
Mr.
chair,
if
I
may
as
part
of
our
review
for
this,
this
Park
site
has
moved
around
and
the
applicant
will
attest
to
that.
Our
goal
of
putting
the
park
in
its
current
location
happened
probably
about
a
year
year
and
a
half
ago,
where
we
decided
you
know.
If
you
put
the
park
at
the
back
of
this
site,
for
example,
it
would
not
read
as
a
community
park
anymore.
F
It
was
suggested
that
it
would
about
to
either
the
left
or
right
side
along
middle
field,
so
that
had
the
potential
not
only
to
read
to
the
neighborhood
the
future
neighborhood
as
a
park,
but
had
the
capability
of
being
added
to
to
make
a
larger
Park
similar
to
a
project
that
you
saw
last
year,
the
flower
Mart
project.
We
had
a
similar
issue,
as
you
become
a
more
urban
area
things.
In
order
to
have
everything,
including
a
park,
you
know.
F
Sometimes
there
has
to
be
a
little
bit
more
noise,
but
at
the
same
point
there
is
no
design
of
this
facility
and
there
may
be
ways
through
the
design
of
it
through
the
Parks
and
Rec
Commission,
with
our
Public
Works
Department.
When
it
gets
to
that
stage
where
they
can
look
at
the
uses
and
what's
happening
there,
but
it
is
not
an
uncommon
thing,
as
the
city
becomes
more
urban
I.
A
Wanted
to
ask
a
follow-up
question
on
that
I
mean:
is
there
a
sense
of
comparing
like
what
the
noise
levels
in
this
park
would
be
with
say
the
noise
levels
along
the
Stevens
Creek
Trail,
because
that's
pretty
noisy
and
yet
we
still
get
some
use
out
of
it,
I
mean.
Would
this
be
less
than
that
or
more
than
that,
or
do
we
know.
J
H
You
have
other
questions
well,
I
guess
maybe
just
to
follow
up
on
that.
Would
it
I
mean,
perhaps
perhaps
it
would
be
putting
you
on
the
spot
to
ask
if
it
would
be
appropriate
to
consider
swapping
the
first
flat
building,
which
is
closest
to
middle
field
with
the
park,
then
the
park
would
be
set
back
a
little
bit,
but
it's
not
so
far
away
from
the
from
middle
field.
That
I
mean.
Perhaps
you
would
think
that
it
would.
It
would
no
longer
have
the
sense
that
it's
community
park
we.
A
H
A
K
G
Tc
and
if
I
recall
correctly,
PCE
as
well,
it
is
the
the
site
was
an
old
Intel
and
Raytheon
site,
and
so
those
degree
sirs
were
used
as
part
of
the
manufacturing
process.
That
just
you
know
the
because
the
site
has
been
under
remediation
for
so
long
now,
there's
an
existing
it's
a
pump
and
treat
system
that
pulls
the
groundwater,
have
treats
it
and
then
releases.
It
discharges
it
that
system
actually
isn't
even
operating
currently,
because
the
EPA
has
determined
that
the
levels
are
low
enough,
that
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
operate
it
anymore.
G
K
Jarick
cause
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
the
appropriate
time
to
talk
about
that
now,
but
I
am
aware
of
there's
a
technology
called
phytoremediation
that
utilizes
trees
that
is
treated
with
the
special
bacteria
that
can
help
clean
up
groundwater,
and
you
may
be
already
aware
of
that,
and
we
can
I
don't
know
if
now
the
right
time
to
talk
about
it
and
I.
Think
Eric
is
aware
of
that
too.
Yeah
I
appreciate.
G
That
and
we'll
mention
that
to
our
consultants,
I
will
tell
you
that
the
the
depth
to
groundwater
is
about
somewhere
around
14
to
16
feet.
So
it's
it's
quite
a
ways
down.
We
are,
however,
actually
well
not
we.
The
responsible
parties
are
actually
in
the
process
of
element
in
hand
right
now
to
do
we
call
it
experimental,
but
a
an
additional
approach
that
EPA
is
requested.
That
involves
injecting
essentially
a
bacteria
break
down
the
okay.
K
G
I
believe
there
was
a
slide
that
staff
showed
earlier
the
presentation.
It's
actually
highlights
the
different
connectivity
routes
throughout
the
site.
The
short
answer
is
yes,
the
sidewalk
on
both
sides
of
the
private
street.
There
you
go
it's
sidewalk
on
both
sides
of
the
private
street.
It
will
have
public
access
easements
as
well,
so
you
basically
have
go
north-south
for
location
of
oxide,
with
its
three
locations
on
the
site
and
east-west,
obviously
at
the
where
there
isn't
a
building.
Yes,
okay,.
I
J
I
K
F
As
part
of
our
review,
we've
gone
through
several
iterations
of
this
and
when
I
first
saw
this
project,
one
of
my
first
thoughts
was
there
was
beneficial
landscaping
that
deserved
a
better
chance
and
preservation
out
along
the
street
and
I.
Think
we've
seen
that
now
we
have
an
arborist
report
that
has
been
reviewed
by
our
City
arborist,
as
well
as
the
third
party
and
concluded
that
you
know
the
tree
preservation
that
has
now
proposed
for
a
long
east
middle
field
will
work.
F
The
landscaping
that
is
through
the
interior
of
the
project
does
not
get
reviewed
by
the
city
arborist,
but
it
is
reviewed
based
upon
good
planning
practice
and
all
of
the
documents
that
we
have
to
guide
us
in
terms
of
what
is
appropriate
and
things
change
over
time.
And
you
know
we
will.
You
know
change
over
time
too.
So,
as
part
of
our
review,
we
did
a
very
thorough
review
of
the
landscape
materials
that
there's
something
that
you
believe.
We
would
should
consider
we'd
be
happy
to
hear
that.
K
E
A
brief
question
it
was
my
impression
is
the
answer
is
no,
but
as
one
of
the
first
projects
that
will
actually
contribute
residential
into
the
jobs
housing
mix,
there
was
a
mention
in
the
same
section
that
there's
another
project
that
may
consume
it.
I
am
of
the
understanding
that
there
is
no
linkage
and
no
requirement
that
the
applicant
would
have
to
sell
any
office
space
that
they
use
to
any
other
property
that
the
litters
ability
to
monetize
office
space,
that
eliminating
is
completely
independent
of
the
jobs,
housing
mix
and
calculation
that
the
city
would
use.
E
M
M
What
the
precise
plan
anticipates
is
that
there
will
be
partnerships
so
that
office
development
can
take
advantage
or
it
can
can
lean
on
a
residential
developer
to
get
their
linkage
requirement
and
be
how's.
The
LASD
TDR
projects
were
coming
through
all
together
and
roughly
in
balance
with
each
other
council
didn't
want
to
see
the
the
office
development
get
out
too
far
ahead
of
the
residential
development,
and
since
it
was
a
policy
influx,
we
are
informally
if
you
will
linking
the
residential
LASD
TDR
projects
and
the
office
le
st
TDR
projects.
M
So
the
office
projects
don't
have
to
formally
have
a
residential
partner
and
the
residential
projects,
while
they
don't
have
as
much
opportunity
to
provide
that
that
partnership
that
office
might
be
seeking
other
benefits
for
the
residential
developers
were
proposed
and
approved
by
council.
At
the
adoption
hearing
in
November,
maybe.
E
I,
don't
make
my
question
more
specific,
there's
nothing
in
the
precise
plan
that
says
that
Summerhill
has
to
sell
their
office
space
to
the
affair
child
office,
building
that
we
saw
last
year.
If
there's
account,
if
you
decide
to
link
the
two
there
that
they
are
free
to,
if
if
they
can,
if
they
give
a
great
deal
with
them,
cool
yeah
I
think
it's
sell
to
anybody
else.
They
don't
look
like
so.
M
D
A
Any
other
questions
from
the
Commission
all
right,
I
just
I,
just
have
a
few
that
I'd
like
to
go
over
this
one's
to
staff.
So
there
was
a
change
in
the
that
council
had
asked
for
in
the
affordable
housing
component
and
I'm.
Just
I'm
interested
to
know,
in
your
estimation,
is
the
value
of
the
package
in
terms
of
subsidies.
You
know
roughly
equivalent
to
what
was
originally
proposed.
M
F
Part
of
our
review,
we
did
look
at
all
the
different
alternatives
we
recommended
one
of
I
think
four
or
alternatives
or
more
that
were
proposed.
We
went
through
the
hearing
process
in
the
majority
of
Council,
went
with
what
was
called
alternative
four,
which
is
very
similar
to
the
project
proposal.
Now,
as
this
project
has
proceeded
forward,
that's
been
the
applicants
proposal
to
keep
with
that,
and
the
project
that
is
proposed
is
consistent
with
the
direction
that
council
provided
them.
Okay,.
A
J
B
J
So
and
I
don't
know
if
Eric
can
confirm
this,
but
I
believe
there
was
a
comparison
done
in
terms
of
what
it
would
mean
to
apply
the
package
that
they're
moving
forward
with
to
our
current
requirements
and
it
acquainted
in
the
ballpark
of
six
and
nine
percent.
If
you
were
to
include
all
the
units
right.
P
M
D
M
A
Bit,
okay,
well,
I
have
a
few
other
questions
and
then
you
know
if
we
can
go
back
to
that
one.
Another
question
back
to
staff:
yes,
is
that
last
year
a
number
of
us
sat
down
with
Google
and
they
talked
about
you
know
their
vision
for
this
area
in
their
office
and
I'm.
Wondering
I
mean.
Is
that
going
to
be
coming
back
to
us
this
year
and
as
or
as
the
changes
with
semantics,
you
know
complicated.
A
B
B
D
J
D
M
A
Then
I
had
asked
a
few
questions
privately
to
the
applicant
and
just
to
get
them
on
the
record
I
just
like
to
go
through
them
again,
and
one
of
those
had
to
do
with
you
know
where
the
expected
loading
for
people
moving
in
and
out
is
going
to
be
and
how
that's
going
to
work?
Can
you
address
that,
for
the
record.
G
Yes,
that's
the
loading
area
that
is
for
for
move
in
moving
vehicles,
the
as
I
think
I
have
explained
the
the
apartments
will
are
expecting
to
have
a
higher
turnover
rate
than
the
condominiums
and
the
town
flats.
That's
very
typical
ownership
product
doesn't
turn
over
anywhere
near
as
quickly
as
apartments
do
so.
During
initial
Lisa
and
sales,
everybody
will
be
using
it
and
throughout
the
life
of
the
project.
That
will
be
the
primary
loading
area,
but
there
is,
as
you
can
see
there,
there's
a
loading
route
to
elevator
marked
on
there.
It's
an
accessible
route.
G
That's
actually
takes
you
right
to
the
the
best
elevator
to
get
up
and
down
the
building.
The
property
managers
are
not
going
to
allow
anybody
to
be
bringing
furniture
in
through
the
front
lobby.
So
for
for
people
who
are
moving
into
the
site
that
loading
area
is
probably
the
most
convenient
place,
it
could
possibly
be
I
know
they've
often
been
concerns
about
people
parking
and
loading
moving
vehicles
on
the
street.
That's
really
not
gonna
be
attractive
to
anybody
who's.
Moving
in
because
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
that
elevator.
G
We
did
we
were
invited
to
meet
with
members
of
that
wagon
wheel,
association,
homeowners
association.
They
were
approximately
five
to
six
members
who
who
attended
that
they
introduced
the
project
talked
about
it
answered
questions.
There
were
questions
the
in
general.
That
I
would
characterize
the
responses
as
supportive
of
the
project.
Many
of
the
questions
that
we
did
receive
related
to
what
sort
of
parking
we
were
gonna
be
providing
and
what
sort
of
transportation.
A
And
at
our
study
session
that
we
had
you
talked
about,
we
had
asked
that
there
be
a
greater
differentiation
between
the
condo
and
the
apartment
building
and
it
has
something
you
look
specifically
at
the
coroner
treatment.
Can
you
talk
in
more
detail
about
what
you've
done
on
that
since
the
last
time
right.
G
G
Unfortunately,
I
don't
have
a
slide
that
that
shows
the
sort
of
the
before
and
after,
but
one
thing
that
if
you
were
to
have
it
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
our
fourth
submittal,
the
the
corner
treatment,
the
condominiums
was
quite
similar
to
the
to
the
oh.
Yes,
this
is
the
new.
This
is
perfect.
Look
at
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
you
can
see
there.
G
If
you
want
to
speak
to
this
to
our
architect
us
here
tonight
she
can
speak
to
it,
but
as
you
can
see
that
the
new
corner
treatment
is
very
different,
it
is
it's
still
an
anchor
to
the
building,
but
we've
incorporated
that
angled
element,
which
is
echoed
over
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
and
also
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
as
well.
Although
you
can't
see
it
on
the
image
here,
we've
introduced
a
new
material.
G
We've
also
changed
the
the
the
pattern
of
the
windows
to
create
a
little
bit
more
rhythm
and
fluidity
in
it,
and
so,
in
addition
to
that,
as
you
can
see,
as
you
look
around
the
rest
of
the
building,
there
are
also
some
changes.
We've
made
to
the
massing,
especially
at
the
upper
levels,
to
create
a
little
bit
more
variation
and
and
break
in
the
facades
there
as
well.
There's
anything
that
you'd
want
to
add
to
that.
P
Hi
I'm
Sara
Fernandez,
with
ktg
y
in
terms
of
differentiating
the
two
buildings
we've
made
great
efforts
to
address
that
through
the
architectural
details,
as
well
as
materials
and
color
schemes.
Right
now,
the
comparison
on
screen
is
both
the
condo
building
before
and
after.
But
what
you're
not
seeing
is
the
condo
building
currently
compared
to
the
apartment
building
and
they
are
quite
different
in
terms
of
the
color
schemes
and
materials
and
in
details.
We've
got
different
window
details
for
each
building.
We
have
got
different
brick
colors
different
paint
colors.
The
corner
detailing
is
quite
different.
P
We've
got
more
of
a
grid
corner
detail
in
the
apartment
building,
whereas
on
the
condo
building,
we've
got
staggered
windows
with
deep
openings
and
we've
got
a
metal
panel
with
a
vertical
with
a
vertical
reveal,
as
opposed
to
on
the
apartment
building.
There's
a
high
pressure,
laminate
material
used
instead
of
metal
and
it's
more
of
a
planar
surface
than
with
the
vertical
grid
pattern.
We've
also
got
differences
in
the
roofline
between
the
two
buildings
on
the
apartment.
Building
the
roof
line
is
is
flat
with
varied
parapet,
Heights
on
the
apartment,
building,
I'm.
P
Sorry
on
the
condo
building,
we've
got
all
of
the
corners
accentuated
with
an
angled
parapet.
You
could
see
an
example
of
that
here
on
the
key
corner.
The
angled
parapet
has
vertical
slats
in
it
because
there's
a
roof
deck
there
and
so
you'll
reinforce
that
that
language,
but
still
have
a
view
out
from
the
roof
deck
and
then
all
the
other
corners
have
that
solid
angled
parapet
in
the
vertical
metal
siding
material.
So
it's
it's
gonna,
be
very
different
between
the
two
buildings,
not
only
in
the
detailing,
but
in
the
materials.
P
The
apartment
buildings
gonna
have
more
Gray's
with
a
red
brick
and
the
condo
building
has
a
lighter
material
palette.
It's
more
bright.
It's
got.
The
blue
emphasis
on
the
corner
and
the
other
corners
are
kind
of
a
blue-gray
material
and
the
brick
is
a
tan
color.
Instead
of
the
red
brick
that
we're
proposing
for
the
apartment,
building.
M
So
the
analysis
that
was
done
back
in
2018
did
find
an
equivalence
between
this.
What
their
BMR
program
had
with
the
old
BMR
program
that
we
had
at
the
time,
which
was
15%,
low-income
units
in
the
rental
and
the
3%
in
lieu
fee,
for
so
did
a
fee
instead
of
on-site
units
for
the
ownership,
and
so
that
that
was
shown
to
be
equivalent
in
terms
of
the
what's
being
provided.
The
the
amount
of
BMR
units
that
are
being
provided.
Okay,.
D
A
M
M
J
D
A
Q
Good
evening,
chair
Cox
commissioners,
staff
and
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
David
Conklin
and
I'm,
with
Renault
and
handily
I'm.
Here
representing
the
current
owners
of
the
subject
properties,
it's
been
nearly
three
years
since
Summerhill
approached
us
initially
with
an
offer
to
purchase
these
properties.
Q
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
address
the
Commission
tonight
on
this
project
all
right,
seeing
none
I
will
bring
it
back
to
the
Commission
for
discussion
and
deliberation,
and
and
hopefully
some
resolution
we
can
send
to
the
council.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
hearing
is
there
are
a
number
of
different
topics.
People
might
want
to
discuss
in
some
depth,
so
maybe
the
best
way
for
us
to
do
this,
then,
is
for
me
to
get
a
list
of
those.
B
F
H
The
second
would
be
acoustical
analysis
of
interior
noise
assessment
to
consider
air
traffic
flow
a
day
of
heavy
air
traffic
flow
above
Whisman.
The
third,
relatively
minor,
was
the
four
foot
six
inches
for
the
sidewalk
versus
the
four
feet
for
the
sidewalk
I'm.
The
fourth
I'm
troubled
by
the
I'm
troubled
by
the
noise
at
the
park
and
I
fully
recognize
that
I'm
coming
into
this
process
late
and
I'm,
reluctant
to
derail
it.
But
I
like
to
like
to
have
a
little
bit
of
discussion
on
that.
H
D
A
D
A
D
I
J
I
May
I
clarify
so
I
understand
our
fellow
Commissioner
has
done
some
research
I
haven't
heard
from
the
applicant
about
the
extent
to
which
you
you
are
concerned
that
this
is
a
potential
issue,
because
there's
a
lot
of
other
residential
that
I
know.
Summer
Hill
has
built
in
the
very
close
proximity
that
maybe
this
has
come
up
in
other
areas.
I
just
I,
don't
personally
feel
like
I,
have
the
same
level
of
expertise,
I'm
happy
to
say
yes,
just
close
it,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
understand
the
gravity
of
it
for
a
residential
development.
Thank.
L
I
A
H
I
submitted
a
question
to
stass
staff
asking
what
period
the
45
DB
ADL
interior
noise
assessment
was
calculated
over
and
the
response
we
received
is
24
hours
and
that
period
would
be
during
certain
days
in
the
winter.
You
have
a
lot
of
airplanes
over
you
and
I
would
suggest
that
the
acoustical
analysis
that
is
going
to
be
performed
to
ensure
that
the
interior
noise
within
units
consider
an
amount
of
airplane
noise
that
is
consistent
with
a
day
of
heavy
travel
during
the
winter
and
whether
that's
modeled
or
actually
measured,
I,
wouldn't
care
about
I.
H
H
There
will
be
an
acoustical
assessment
mm-hmm
to
show
that
the
windows
are
satisfactory.
Windows
and
wall
treatments
Sara
satisfactorily
provide
an
interior
environment
of
45,
DBA
LDN
mm-hmm,
and
my
suggestion
is
to
ensure
that
whatever
modeling
is
done
to
establish
that
that
is
met
mm-hmm.
That
modeling
would
simulate
or
actually
measure
the
noise
during
a
day
of
heavy
air
traffic
in
the
winter.
Okay,.
H
L
So
the
set
standards
for
the
acoustical
engineer
to
use
on
every
project
to
come
up
with
the
data
of
what
the
requirement
is
for
their
ratings
for
the
windows
and
whatnot.
So
what
what
I
would
recommend
if
you're
looking
for
providing
added
criteria
for
that
analysis,
I
would
I
would
ask
the
staff
in
the
city
to
look
at
modifying
what
the
standard
is
for
the
city
and
not
just
for
this
project.
That
would
be
a
really
the
proper
way
to
go
about
it.
L
From
our
perspective,
again,
I
understand
the
request,
but
we
would
ask
that
the
overall
policy
be
looked
at
citywide,
because
what
we're
asking
to
do
is
really
different
than
what
we
have
done
in
every
project
which
there's
a
set
standard
of
how
they
do
their
analysis.
So
that
would
be
my
our
input.
Okay,.
A
L
So
as
I
understand
it,
the
standard
doesn't
ask
you
to
look
at
the
worst-case
scenario.
The
standard
usually
is
an
average,
so
I
think
what
you're
asking
for
is
a
worst-case
scenario.
If
the
city
is
looking
for
that
analysis
to
be
done
going
forward,
what
we're
suggesting
is,
look
at
it
holistically
for
the
city
and
modify
the
policy
going
forward
on
projects
to
say.
L
J
J
D
J
E
Not
in
favor
in
any
way
shape
or
form
and
modifying
the
existing
building
standards
for
one
specific
project.
If,
if
this
is
something
we
need
to
do
across
the
board,
I
completely
agree
with
the
applicant.
The
the
change
to
run
acquirement
of
ft
/
250
percent
solar
coverage
on
the
buildings
was
something
that
went
through
a
full
and
diligent
process.
As
part
of
for
the
city,
it
was
brought
to
the
City.
E
Council
was
formally
approved,
and
now
every
every
project
in
the
city
has
to
follow
those
rules,
and
if
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
done,
then
I
would
think
that
this
should
we
go
through
the
same
process.
But
I
am
I,
am
not
in
favor
of
changing
the
rules
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
Project
by
project,
so
I,
wouldn't
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
a
change
as
okay
and.
I
D
A
This
needs
to
be,
you
know,
fairly
discussed
as
an
independent
project
and
and
then
you
know,
applied
uniformly
on
all
applicants,
particularly
with
this
applicant,
coming
very
late
in
the
process
to
add
an
additional
requirement
that
hadn't
had
a
fall
betting,
yet
I
think,
even
though
you
know
he
did
it's
a
very
useful
topic
to
bring
up.
I
I
wouldn't
support
doing
a
one-off
on
this
one.
So,
like.
H
I
guess:
I,
don't
even
support
doing
a
one-off
on
this
F
okay
discussion,
so
I'll
remove
the
suggestion,
but
I
will
I
would
suggest
to
the
proponent
that
for
your
own
purposes
and
for
the
satisfaction
of
people
buying
homes,
you
may
want
to
consider
consider
this
input
when
you
choose
your
windows.
Okay,.
B
H
A
A
H
A
H
A
H
N
I'm
in
agreement
with
the
commissioner
Holbrooke
that
we
should
take
a
look
at
the
extra
bed,
I
think,
especially
at
the
loading,
if
you're
moving
furniture
in
and
out
it's
nice
to
have
a
little
bit
more.
If
we
can
get
plants
that
are
appropriate
to
do
the
intention
that
you
have
or
to
perform
the
intention
that
you
have
to
screen
the
garage
tall,
skinny,
cypress,
I,
don't
know
what
works
best.
Perhaps
Commissioner
Lowe
can
help
with
that.
K
A
A
E
Some
of
us
may
recall
the
new
folks
wouldn't
have
seen
this
in
the
plan
that
we
saw
back
in
June
the
walkway
that
exists
now
that
continues
all
the
way
across
the
South
portion
of
the
property
didn't
exist.
So
the
applicant
is
actually
made,
in
my
view,
substantial
improvements
to
actually
allow
the
entire
Paseo
across
the
South
portion
of
the
property
and
working
closely
with
staff
to
find
ways
with
the
world
curve,
for
example,
being
done
to
make
sure
that
it
meets
the
requirements
of
the
the
fire
code
and
emergency
vehicles.
L
L
Excuse
me,
the
immediate
electric
meters
and
and
a
lot
of
the
utility
boxes
that
are
on
that
wall
and
you
need
to
have
a
setback
from
so
the
landscape
that
you
can
provide
in
that
area
becomes
limited
because
of
the
setback
that
you
need
to
provide
to
those
meters.
So
again
we
can
increase
the
sidewalk,
we'll
just
have
a
little
bit
less
landscaping
to
to
provide
visual
protection,
but
either
way
works
for
us.
If,
whatever
decision
you
want
to
make
okay.
A
A
D
H
H
It's
you
know,
other
zoning
doesn't
get
close
to
that
for
parks.
So
I'm
I
understand
the
the
reason
for
place
in
the
park
where
it
is
it's
a
more
beautiful
thing.
It
makes
the
approach
along
middle
field
more
attractive,
there's
an
opportunity
to
combine
it
with
other
parts
of
the
future,
but
as
a
place
for
people
to
enjoy,
which
kind
of
is
at
least
half
the
purpose
of
a
park.
It
I
think
it's.
H
That
said,
I
don't
know
that
this
is
something
that
I
want
to
push
hard
on
at
this
point,
unless
the
environmental
impact
assessment
that
states
that
there's
no
significant
or
states
that
were
consistent
with
policies
is
in
fact
not
the
case
because
in
which
case
I
wouldn't
want
to
sign
up.
For
that
part
because
of
the
methodology
that's
being
used,
which
is
testing
noise
at
the
center
of
the
park,
when
there
are
people
throughout
the
whole
park,
and
so
I
guess
I
guess
I'd,
ask
that
question.
H
A
H
You
know
earlier
a
minute
ago,
I
suggested:
maybe
we
could
put
swap
to
two
buildings
that
doesn't
work
because
of
the
parking
as
I
was
looking
at
it.
So
I
think
you'd
have
to
I
mean
there
were
a
couple
of
alternatives
earlier
I'm
not
familiar
with
them.
The
one
that
would
come
to
my
mind
is
pushing
the
park
all
the
way
to
the
back,
but
that's
I
can't.
I
I
In
an
area
where
we
desperately
need
housing
and
see
it
close
to
transit,
see
the
opportunity
to
build
trip
at
a
park
that
could
potentially
be
extended.
Those
benefits
and
the
opportunity
to
work
creatively
with
landscaping
would
seem
to
be
a
better
use
of
our
time
and
our
energy
at
this
point.
But
that's
my
opinion
and
and
maybe
if,
if
there
is
a
conversation
about
noise
studies
along
middlefield,
it
should
include
these
three
other
major
public
parks
and
perhaps
Stevens
Creek.
N
Would
say
that
we
we
are
urbanizing
a
bit
and
so
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
a
little
bit
more
noise.
It's
the
compromise
for
having
more
people
that
from
a
design
standpoint.
My
opinion
is
that
a
park
that
is
usable
and
open
to
the
public
Trump's
a
quiet
Park
that
few
people
will
use
other
than
the
residents
there.
So
if
it
is
a
little
noisier,
I'm,
okay,
if
we
can
find
ways
to
mitigate
the
noise
I'm.
All
for
that,
but
personally
I
just
feel
like
the
ability
for
the
public
to
utilize.
N
This
Park
takes
a
little
bit
more
priority
and
perhaps
the
policy
in
the
number
and
how
they
measure
what
parks
should
be
at
is
something
that
ought
to
be
looked
at,
but
that's
for
a
different
conversation
than
what
we're
doing
here.
I,
don't
think
it's
not
worthwhile
to
pursue
that,
but
it's
probably
something
that
would
be
done
at
a
larger
level.
What
the
city
policy
is
for
parks,
and
maybe
that
needs
to
change
as
we
are
benign,
and
it
could
be
that
Middlefield
Road
itself,
as
it
changes,
might
have
a
different
decibel
level
as
well.
N
H
B
H
H
That
said,
we
also
heard
that
the
amount
of
traffic
long
Middlefield
can
be
expected
to
increase,
and
if
the
traffic
were
to
double,
for
example,
that
could
be
a
an
increase
of
three
decibels
there
and
the
other.
The
other
consideration
which
I
guess
I
didn't
say
earlier,
is
that
the
applicant
expects
that
there
may
be
a
stoplight
next
to
the
park
and
if
cars
are
slowing
down
and
especially
accelerating
in
close
to
the
park,
that
could
lead
to
some
some
more
noise
as
well.
D
H
Acceleration
but
I
think
folks
on
the
Commission
can
probably
sense
my
hesitation
about
when
digging
my
heels
in
too
hard
on
this,
given
where
we
are
in
the
process
and
I'm
not
inclined
not
inclined
to
do
so.
But
I
did
like
the
suggestion
that
maybe
staff
could
see
what
could
be
done
about
providing
some
acoustic
treatments
that
might
be
able
to
reduce
the
noise
because,
as
I
said,
774
decibels
is
really
is
really
quite
long.
So.
A
F
Mr.
chair,
if
I
may
generally
regrading
of
a
street,
is
Public
Works
or
transportation
or
traffic
I
would
add
that
as
staff
sitting
here,
we
hear
all
seven
of
you
loud
and
clear
that
something
needs
to
happen
in
terms
of
acoustical
treatment
and
we
will
relay
that
concern
to
City
Council
as
part
of
our
review
process.
So
we
will
take
care
of
that
in
review.
Refer
that
concern
to
our
City
Council,
okay,
I
think.
J
The
design
what's
happening
at
this
park
has
not
been
decided
upon
and
will
not
be
decided
upon
as
part
of
this
project.
So
I
think
a
lot
of
the
comments
you
guys
are
sharing
concerns
here
can
definitely
be
relayed
to
our
public
works
capital
improvement
project
staff
for
when
the
project
does
come
through.
J
J
A
A
I
mean
you
know
we
should
be
making
decisions
with
our
eyes
and
ears
wide
open,
but
I'm.
You
know,
I
really
don't
even
know.
I
mean
I
have
my
sense
of
how
much
the
noise
char's
me
in
certain
places,
like
I.
Remember
when
I
first
started
using
the
Stevens
Creek
Trail
I
had
to
ask
myself
the
question:
I
mean:
do
I
really
want
to
be
around
this
noisy
traffic
when
I'm
doing
this
and
then
I
got
used
to
it,
but.
A
Know
if
we
even
have
like
any
information
about
like
if
you
could
list
the
parks
and
what
the
noise
levels
are
in
them,
so
that,
as
we
go
about
trying
to
evaluate
this
kind
of
thing,
we
can
get
a
sense
of
what
we're
dealing
with
so
I
mean
I.
Would
that's
that's
a
personal
or
professional
request,
I
guess
but
I
mean
then
so
you've
heard
our
comments
and
I
guess.
My
question
is:
is
that
in
terms
of
an
action
item
from
this
is,
do
you
have
a
suggestion?
I
mean.
J
A
B
That
interaction
from
the
public
and
really
is
part
of
that
larger
community
and
so
I
was
really
impressed
by
the
efforts
that
I
saw
the
developer.
The
developer
made
with
the
park
with
the
Paseos
to
make
this
project
community
facing,
and
that
would
be
my
concern
with
moving
the
park,
is
that
it
would
become
more
internal
facing
and
not
as
much
a
part
of
the
East
Whisman
community,
that
the
precise
plan
lays
out.
Okay.
B
C
A
I
mean
you
know:
I
mean
we've
I.
One
of
the
things
I
appreciate
about
staff
is
that
they've
had
a
consistent
emphasis
on
the
idea
that
if
a
public
park
is
going
to
be
used
by
the
public
at
large,
as
opposed
to
the
residents
of
a
particular
project,
it
needs
to
face
out
to
the
public.
It
needs
to
be
obvious
to
the
public
that
that's
what
it
is
so
I'm
you
know
putting
in
the
back
somewhere.
Even
if
you
put
a
sign
up,
hey,
there's
a
public
park
back
there.
A
If
you
go
back
and
look
I
mean
it's
kind
of
like
those
signs
for
the
real
estate
that
say,
I'm
beautiful
inside
you
know
it's
not
as
effective
as
being
able
to
see
a
beautiful
building
so
or
a
beautiful
park.
So,
okay,
then,
let's
see
I,
don't
see
any
other
questions
on
that
and
then
move
on
to
number
five,
which
was
you
had
some
rewording
that
you
wanted
about
the
parking
yeah.
H
H
H
A
H
D
H
H
H
J
N
H
The
attachment
that
was
included
in
the
packet
cited
a
study
by
hexagon
and
that
study
justified.
It
found
that
the
apart,
the
the
parking
was
adequate
based
on
the
averages
across
seven
cities,
and
those
averages
were
assuming
that
well
I.
The
averages
I
guess
would
have
to
assume
that
people
could
move
from
one
unit
to
the
other,
but
they
can't.
H
The
logic
didn't
work,
but
if
you
choose
one
measure
either
the
measure
that
was
in
the
previous
resolution
or
the
measure
that
staff
proposed
as
a
revision
either
of
those
will
work
for
the
one
unit,
but
either
for
the
condo,
but
not
for
the
apartment
or
if
the
apartment,
but
not
for
the
condo,
and
what
I
proposed
is
wording
that
works
for
the
condo,
where
it's
the
condo
and
works,
the
apartment,
where's
the
apartment,
and
so
we
can
vote
on
that
and
say.
This
is
consistent
with
the
staff
report.
H
H
D
H
Staff
was
that
they're
comfortable
that
it
meets,
and
they
did
consider
the
fact
that
the
buildings
couldn't
be
that
people
couldn't
share
parking
across
the
buildings,
so
I'm
getting
a
sense.
Taking
these
two
things
together,
the
the
hexagon
bottom
line
conclusion
staffs
bottom
line
conclusion
that
yeah
it
basically
meets
it's
just
the
logic
to
support
it
is
that
has
been
proposed
in
the
wordings
that
we've
been
presented
with,
doesn't
tie
out
as
soon
as
you
introduce
the
idea
that
people
can't
move
from
one
building
to
the
other.
N
J
So,
ultimately,
the
precise
plan
sets
of
parking
maximum
for
the
condo
and
the
and
the
apartment
proposal,
and
so
the
appellants
applied
a
parking
study
as
part
of
their
justification
for
their
parking
requirements.
I
think,
ultimately,
staff
is
fine.
Presenting
the
information,
as
suggested
by
the
commissioner,
ultimately
I
think.
The
reason
we
propose
the
edits
was
simply
for
clarity
and
consistency
across
the
reference
kind
of
metric,
but
I.
Definitely
you
know
staff
understands
the
commissioners
point
as
well,
so
I
mean
we're
open
to
either
direction.
E
E
What
you're
proposing
the
way
this
language
is
that
you
would
be
actually
giving
the
developer
permission
to
reduce
the
number
of
spaces
per
apartment
unit
for
1.09
down.
2.9
I
am
not
in
favor
of
that
the
language
this
section
says
we
approve
it
based
on
what
they're
providing
and
we're
saying
is
they're
providing
one
no.9
if
they're
providing.
B
E
Why
would
we
allow
them
to
drop
it
down
to
0.9
you're,
not
changing
the
the
separating
it
no
big
deal,
but
if
there,
if
it's
one
point
three
to
four
the
cantos
cool,
if
it's
poor
1.09
for
this
apartment
school,
if
it's
two
for
the
tournament,
why
would
we
lower
it
you're,
actually
allowing
them
to
reduce
the
amount
of
parking
that
they
provide?
Why
would
you
do
that.
H
Yeah
respond:
go
ahead,
yeah!
That's
not
what
I'm
proposing
commissioner
Cranston.
There
are
two
standards
that
have
been
proposed
in
the
language
that
we
have
been
that's
been
presented
before
us
in
the
original
language.
The
standard
that
was
being
used
was
spaces
per
bedroom
in
the
revised
language
staff
switched
to
spaces
per
unit,
and
so
what
I
was
proposing
was
using
the
spaces
per
bedroom
language
for
the
apartments
and
the
spaces
per
units,
language
for
the
condos
I.
E
A
Mr.
ulbrich,
let
me
ask
you
this
I
mean
your
your
revised
language
also
is
a
statement
of
what
they're
saying
they're
going
to
provide,
isn't
it
or
it
is
okay,
and
so
really
your
only
change
is,
and
you
want
to
call
out
the
apartments
in
terms
of
parking
per
bedroom
rather
than
parking
per
unit,
because
that's
what's
consistent
with
the
analysis
that
was
done
in
the
next
report
at
their
point
right
into.
H
I
I
think
part
of
the
reason
staff
did
that
research
is
because
we
don't
have
many
condo
points
of
comparison.
So
I
hear
the
sentiment.
What
you're
trying
to
reflect
is
the
accuracy
that
methodology
is
flawed
according
to
our
current
policy.
So
what
we're
trying
to
work
toward
is
the
language
that
reflects
what
the
developer
is
providing
inclusive
of
the
methodology
or
acknowledging
I
guess:
Commissioner
Yin.
I
You
were
saying
that
what
we
want
to
point
out,
what
we
want
to
flag
to
Council
is
that
the
methodology
that
was
used
lumped
in
to
bumped
in
to
parking
structures
that
will
not
be
easily
the
residents
cannot
because
the
residents
cannot
use
one.
The
apartment
residents
cannot
park
in
the
condo
structure
and
vice
versa.
I
think
all
we
want
to
do
is
flag
in
our
comments
to
council.
The
staff
is
aware
of
this.
The
Commission
is
aware
of
this
they're
meeting
the
parking
requirements
set
forth
by
the
precise
plan.
I
R
I
mean
I
think
any
of
the
options
that
have
been
discussed
so
far
are
fine
and
I'm
looking
over
it
at
planning
staff
as
well,
because
it's
really
getting
at
does
it
meet
whatever
the
requirements
on.
There
sounds
like
there's
multiple
ways
of
reflecting
that,
so
it's
really
at
the
Commission's
determination
terms
of
how
you
want
to
reflect
that
yeah.
A
N
It's
just
a
suggestion
to
staff,
to
just
word
it
very
clearly
to
council
so
that
they
understand
just
what
is
before
them,
and
then
they
can
also
include
the
developers
comment
that
a
per
unit
count
was
given
for
the
condos,
because
those
are
the
two
to
three
bedroom
and
usually,
if
you
have
three
bedrooms
once
for
a
child
and
therefore
there's
still
only
two
cars
so
that
it's
just
clear.
Why
there's
a
per
unit
count?
Why
there's
a
per.
R
And
if
I
may
just
add
one
thing
so
if
the
Commission
wants
to
provide
some
additional
comments
to
council
to
them
to
kind
of
provide
that
additional
information,
that's
fine,
but
I
will
say
that,
ultimately,
we
do
need
to
land
somewhere
in
terms
of
the
language
in
this
resolution,
since
this
is
actually
a
part
of
the
action
that
the
Commission
has
taken.
So
whether
it's
you
know
can
keeping
the
language
as
originally
proposed
or
as
revised
as
proposed
by
planning
staff.
With
some
additional
comments.
That's
fine
too.
B
E
Hey
I
guess
I
I
didn't
realize
my
light
was
on
but
I'm
kind
of
the
view
that
I
don't
have
not
found
that
staff
does
anything
lately
when
they've
wired
these
things,
and
so
since
I
don't
fully
understand
the
implications
of
changing
the
unit
in
the
middle
of
this
I
am
inclined
to
trust
Stef's.
If
it's
accurate,
then
I
would
be
inclined
to
leave
it
the
way
it.
The
red
line
version
is
rather
than
do
something
unintentional
that
I
don't
know
that
I'm
doing
this,
oh.
A
Yeah
I
mean
my
own
personal
opinion
on
it
is
that
I
can
see
both
points
of
view
here.
I
mean
the
way
the
staff
hasn't
worded.
Its
word
at
all
in
terms
of,
like
you
know,
units
which
makes
it
consistent
and
but
I
understand
what
Commissioner
Holbrook
is
saying
that
you
know
I
mean
he
would
like
things
died
more
solidly
to
the
analysis
that
was
done,
but
I
also
understand
that
you
know
there
is
no
requirement
we're
meeting
here,
because
there
is
no
parking
minimum
and
so
I
mean
it
could
be
worded
either
way.
D
H
D
H
H
A
A
B
A
K
So
this
is
a
first
of
all
I'm,
pretty
excited
that
the
project
is
proposing
to
plant
a
lot
of
new
trees
and
trying
to
save
some
of
the
existing
trees.
I
applaud
the
effort
between
the
developer
and
the
stuff.
I
know
it's
really
hard
to
keep
trees
when
you
know
in
a
big
project
like
this
and
I'm,
also
excited
that
we're
planting
a
lot
of
new
trees
and
ultimately,
when
these
treat
new
trees,
mature,
we're
gonna
have
a
larger
tree
canopy,
so
I'm
very
excited
about
that.
K
K
Recycled
water
usually
has
higher
salt
content,
so
we
should
choose
those
species
that
are
tolerant
of
the
you
know:
the
recycled
water
salt,
so
those
are
kind
of
the
high
level
comment
that
I
have
specifically
I,
looked
at
the
plant
list
and
noticed
there
are
few
trees.
I
did
not
get
the
chance
to
look
at
every
single
one,
but
I
looked
at
trees.
That
I
worked
that
there
are
in
high
numbers.
For
example,
the
project
is
proposing
to
plant
58
crape
myrtle,
which
unfortunately
has
poor
salt
tolerance,
49
flowering
cherry.
K
K
K
B
A
E
Gets
two
of
the
two,
the
trees
that
first
of
all
mentioned
it
records
concern
to
me.
My
exposure
to
ginkgo
is
a
small
street
over
and
the
west
side
of
Mount
View
San
Antonio
circle.
There
are
ginkgos
in
the
in
the
strip
between
the
street
and
the
sidewalk
and
they've
been
there
for
at
least
six
years,
and
they
still
look
like
new
trees,
okay
I.
Maybe
these
are
a
different
variety,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
like
about
middle
field
right
now
is
it
does
have
a
low
largest
trees.
E
We're
gonna
try
to
preserve
some
of
those,
and
my
own
exposure
to
ginkgo
is
at
its
motto:
fast-growing
tree
I,
don't
know
where
I've
never
seen
a
ginkgo
as
big
as
the
is
there
drawing
say
that
this
is
gonna
be.
But
if
wait,
you
know
we're
gonna.
Remove
some
of
these
older
trees.
I
would
love
to
see
something
that
was
gonna
actually
grow
and
be
able
to
compete
in
a
in
a
height.
E
Like
the
street
tree,
that
I
would
put
along
the
front
of
this
so
and
they're,
not
a
native
tree,
so
I
I
would
love
to
see
some
alternative
there
and
then
the
other
thing
in
the
staff
report
was
mentioned
was
a
concern
about
the
east
side
of
the
property
that
screening
of
the
of
the
the
parking
structure
on
the
apartment
building
they
had
some
concerns
about,
but
that's
where
all
your
doing,
crepe
myrtles
are
and
another.
You
know
I'm
looking
at
the
specs
in
there,
the
entire
problem
property,
where
Google
Google
X
is
we
go.
E
Mayfield
property
has
dozens
and
dozens
of
crepe
myrtles.
They
have
been
there
for
40
years
and
they're,
not
big
trees,
I,
don't
know
where
he's
crape
myrtles
you're
talking
about
coming
from,
but
if
you
want
to
do
something
to
improve
their
variety
of
it,
let's
put
bigger
trees
along
that
east
side
of
the
property.
If
they're
not
good,
insult
cool,
let's
get
rid
of
them
and
put
something
there.
That's
gonna,
grow,
bigger
and
that'll
help
address
the
issue
of
screening
the
east
side
of
the
property
at
the
same
time.
E
E
So,
but
those
are
the
two
concerns
that
I
had
that
ginkgos
don't
feel
like
a
good
Street
tree
and
if
you're
looking
for
a
better
screening
of
the
east
side
of
the
property,
crepe
myrtle
isn't
not
a
knot,
so
I
wouldn't
put
that
in
as
a
condition
of
approval.
But
it's
it's
a
real
question
for
staff,
as
you
continue
to
work
through
this
to
rethink
the
choices
there
and
those
two
areas
in
particular
mm-hmm.
K
So,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
so
happened
that
most
Oaks
are
a
tolerant
of
salt,
so
please
consider
Oaks
there.
They
also
bring
the
sense
of
place
and
they're
very
resilient
before
the
valley
was
called
a
valuable
part
of
the
light.
We
had
lots
of
folks.
So
if
you
could
bring,
you
know
plant
some
new
ones
there
and
they'll
be
great
if
I
may
add
one
more,
which
is
the
open
spaces.
A
F
Mr.
chair,
if
I
may
I
was
just
writing
a
note
to
myself,
my
suggestion
would
actually
be
strong
suggestion,
encouragement
and
I
could
see.
The
developer
are
working
with
city
staff,
including
the
City
arborist,
to
revisit
this
to
make
sure
that
the
project
makes
a
very
good
example
if
it
does
get
approved
with
all
the
materials
chosen
and
not
just
the
building
materials
but
the
landscaping.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
does
set
an
example
for
future
projects
and
I
think
we
could
make
that
meeting
happen
rather
quickly.
Okay,.
A
F
K
A
D
A
E
E
It
sounds
like
you
took
to
heart
the
feedback
from
the
DRC
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
these
blue
aluminum
or
these
things
that
gave
a
lasts
for
a
long
time,
because
I
I'm
meadow
I
have
a
little
skeptical
of
but
I
trust
it
since
the
condo
building
and
you're
gonna
get
sued.
If
they
get
I'm
happy
with
you,
you're
gonna
find
materials
are
gonna
last
for
a
really
long
time.
I
am
curious
on
the
DRC
Lu
who
likes
colors.
E
We
do
seem
to
be
finding
the
colors
and
our
bidding
of
the
buildings
around
the
city,
but
I
thought
that
the
change
made
that
corner
much
more
attractive.
I
love
those
whatever
you
want
to
call
the
benches.
Okay,
there's
snaky
kind
of
things
that
are
like
really
cool
and
I
would
want
to
go
over
and
sit
on
one
just
because
they're
so
cool,
so
I
think
they've
done
some
things
to
make
it
interesting
at
that
corner,
and
so
am
I
concerned
about
the
corner.
Is
you
know
with
it?
What
I
have
picked
blue
I?
E
H
H
H
Yeah,
that's
close
enough
yeah.
That
is
it!
Thank
you,
as
I
was
serving
the
project.
The
one
thing
that
my
I
tripped
over
a
couple
of
times
is
that
top
floor
on
the
picture
in
the
upper
left
and
I
spoke
with
mr.
Anderson
about
this
yesterday.
He
charged
me
to
try
and
put
this
into
words,
which
is
really
hard,
but
the
best
I
could
come
up
with.
H
H
It's
the
whole
top
floor.
It's
the
white
with
the
there's
one
window
on
each
I,
think
I
think.
If
we
had
two
windows
it
would
be,
it
would
seem
a
little
bit
more
natural
and
then
the
two
windows
in
the
brown
area
in
between
those
with
nothing
in
between
there
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
right
answer
is.
H
Left
eye
I,
don't
know
what
would
fix
it.
It
could
be
perhaps
another
window
on
each
of
those
white
things
or
just
a
some
piece
of
metal
or
something
that
looks
like
a
window
or
maybe
adding
another
window
or
broader
windows
like
you
have
on
the
opposite
side
that
are
bigger
than
those
thin
little
windows
that
you've
got
would
would
help.
A
H
G
Yeah,
okay,
if
I
may
so
we
appreciate
the
feedback,
actually
I,
believe
it's
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
to
continue
to
work
with
staff
on
refining
the
architecture
for
this
building.
So
I
would
strongly
caution
against
making
specific
suggestions.
The
one
that
you
actually
made
was
one
about
having
a
sort
of
a
mock
window.
There
was
actually
one
that
we
had
at
one
point
in
the
DRC
assets.
G
It's
very
complicated
to
look
at
these
things
without
with
that
sort
of
a
holistic
eye.
But
the
other
point
is,
as
our
architect
reminded
me,
is
that
that's
actually
the
bed
wall,
and
that
is
the
reason
that
there
isn't
a
second
window
there
is
that
the
layout
of
the
floor
plans
as
Lindsay
was
saying,
is
such
that
it
does
certain
certain
limitations,
but
we
will
certainly
work
with
staff
to
continue
to
refine
the
architecture
as
we
go
through.
G
B
This
is
this
is
a
new
item
or
new
topic
is
that
okay,
sure
and
I
get
that
I'm
coming
in
really
late
and
I
fully
understand
if
this
is
out
there,
but
I
was
looking
at
your
BMR
units
and
it's
68
and
I.
Just
had
right.
I
think
that
the
precise
plan
is
looking
at
15%,
affordable,
housing
and
I
did
a
calculation
of
who's
15%
of
all
463
units.
B
It
would
be
sixty
nine
point,
four
or
five
units
of
BMR
housing,
so
even
I
just
had
a
I,
don't
want
to
make
it
a
condition
of
approval
at
all,
just
something
to
throw
out
there
if
it
was
even
just
one
or
two
more
units
of
below
market
rate,
housing
would
be
15
percent
of
the
total
units,
and
it
just
was
something
I
wanted
to
put
out
as
even
just
opening
this
wonderful
space
up
to
one
or
two
more
low
to
moderate
income
families.
So
that
was
my
one
by
one
thing.
E
The
the
topic
of
grandfathering
in
units
that
were
in
gatekeepers
was
a
was
a
very
long
topic
in
the
council
meeting
and
ultimately
the
conclusion
was
that
these
these
were
would
not
be.
They
would
be
excluded
from
having
to
use
it
so
voluntarily
sure,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
I.
Think
counsel
has
already
kind
of
made
it
clear
that
the
that
what
they're.
B
D
A
It
commissioner
Cranston
said
I
mean
you
know
that
we
went
through
an
awful
lot
in
figuring
out
what
was
fair
here,
and
so
you
know,
while
we
would
all
like
to
see
more
affordable
units,
you
know
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
in
particular,
I
think
that
the
plan
that
you
came
up
with
is
actually
would
better
serve
the
community
than
you
know
what
the
default
would
have
been.
So
that's
my
personal
view.
A
I
I
can
start
us
off.
I
really
appreciate
the
thoughtful
conversations
tonight.
I
think
this
is
a
project
that
has
been
one
that
has
been
carefully
study
not
only
about
his
staff.
Commissioners
I'm,
particularly
our
new
commissioners,
I,
think
your
feedback
has
been
really
helpful,
I'm
in
support
of
this
project.
There
are
many
elements
of
it
that
I
really
like
chief
among
them,
our
on-site
vm,
our
units,
the
Paseo
extension
and
the
proximity
to
transit.
I
I
know
that
processes
in
in
progress
and
I
think
that
we
asked
a
lot
of
our
applicants
for
high
quality
projects,
but
I
think,
particularly
in
the
case
of
Summer
Hill
in
this
project,
as
we've
been
going
through,
the
East
Whisman,
precise
plan,
you've
been
nimble
and
and
really
receptive,
so
I
applaud
you
for
continuing
to
work
with
our
staff.
Our
staff
has
been
phenomenal,
I
think
it's
really.
This
is
a
very
thorough
staff
report.
K
N
N
Me
maybe
not
enough
to
make
it
a
key
quarter,
but
I
know
I,
don't
want
to
get
into
specifics.
It's
hard
for
me
not
to
get
into
specifics.
I'll
just
put
two
things
out
there
for
the
townhomes.
If
we
can
continue
the
cornice
line,
maybe
a
bit
so
it
doesn't
look
like
the
stone
is
just
like
a
little
wallpaper
of
stone
stuck
there.
That's
just
a
suggestion,
not
a
wreck
the
condition
of
approval
and
if
something
about
the
key
corner
could
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
key
corner
other
than
just
color
change.
N
I'd
be
all
for
it.
But
I
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
efforts
that
have
gone
in
and
all
the
changes
that
have
occurred
since
the
last
time
in
general,
happy
to
see
housing
happy
to
see
making
most
of
the
light
rail
station,
location
and
I'm,
hoping
that
more
residential
can
come
in
so
that
we
can
get
enough
mass
so
that
we
can
get
it
to
be
a
livable
neighborhood
in
conjunction
with
all
the
office
that
I
think
that's
gonna,
be
there.
So
thank
you.
Everyone.
B
Want
to
echo
what
everyone
else
has
said:
I'm
really
excited
about
the
ways
that
this
project
integrates
itself
into
the
community
is
really
forward-thinking
in
terms
of
right
sustainability,
active
transportation.
All
of
that
that
stuff
and
I'm
grateful
to
everyone
for
for
making
it
easy
to
kind
of
come
on
to
this
last
minute.
So.
H
E
A
A
To
design
and
not
trying
to
twist
our
arms
and
say
you
know,
can
it
be
our
own
private
area
that
we
let
you
walk
on?
I,
think
real
parks
for
real
cities
and
real
people
are
great
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
not
displacing
any
residents
here
that
makes
the
projects
a
lot
harder
to
vote
on.
Believe
me
and,
let's
see
yeah
I
guess
the
one
thing
you
know
I
did
I
did
struggle
with
the
parking
issue
because
it
is
lower
than
the
even
the
model
parking
standards
that
we've
had.
A
A
Be
able
to
do
something
in
these
areas
that
you
know
enable
people
who
are
willing
to
live
a
more
car
light
lifestyle,
and
you
couldn't
have
picked
a
better
location
to
do
that,
because
you
know
there
isn't
another
neighborhood,
that's
going
to
easily
get
impacted
by
this
I
mean
you
don't
have
to
if
people
wanted
to
store
their
cars
over
a
Northwest,
minh
or
wagon
wheel
or
whatever
I
mean
they're
going
to
have
to
walk
quite
a
distance.
For
that
you
know,
I
mean
it's.
A
Commissioner
Smith
thing
will
understand
this
about
the
Sierra
Vista
area,
where
she
lives
where
we're
I
mean
you
know,
because
it's
just
so
easy
to
find
street
parking
that,
even
though
the
area's
not
fully
built
out
yet
I
mean
all
the
streets
are
full.
So
so
this
is
the
right
place
to
do
this
and
I've
got
my
fingers
crossed
for
you
and
I
want
to
see
it
work
out,
because
you
know
it's
it's
the
first
third
in
the
spring
and
and
the
success
of
that
is
going
to
build
success
other
places.
So
that's
great.
I
R
I
I
I
R
I
I
C
A
I
A
I
D
I
A
H
Both
the
direction
for
the
four
foot,
six
inch
sidewalk
and
the
direction
to
inform
council
about
the
desire
to
continue
to
do
whatever
acoustic
treatments
might
be
appropriate
over
the
park
were
suggestions.
Okay,
so
to
read
one
into
bed
the
memo,
and
not
the
other,
is
a
little
I.
Don't
understand
why
we
would
do
one,
but
not
both
or
or
neither
of
them.
Okay,.
A
R
Just
my
understanding
from
what
I
heard
from
the
Commission,
if
you
want
to
reflect
it
differently,
of
course,
that
that's
up
to
you,
but
my
understanding
was
there
were
kind
of
two
more
formal
suggestions
to
feedback
to
Council
as
part
of
the
motion
with
the
project,
which
was
the
the
sidewalk
piece
and
then
also
the
landscaping
piece,
and
the
additional
comments
as
to
the
acoustical
treatments
was
more
of
kind
of
a
general
comment
that
was
noted
by
staff.
That
would
be
relayed.
R
A
A
A
And
the
motion
has
passed
7-0.
Thank
you
an
applicant
before
bringing
it
for
to
our
Commission
and
good
luck
as
you
go
to
Council
all
right.
So
I'll
close
that
item,
and
we
can
move
back
to
our
previous
item,
which
is
the
election
of
a
chair
and
vice-chair
so
give
me
a
second
I've
got
a
piece
of
paper
from
staff
on
how
we
can
do
this
so
well.
First
I
will
ask:
are
there
any
nominations
for
the
office
of
chair.
D
A
A
A
B
D
A
D
A
Nominations
for
Vice
Chair,
okay,
not
seeing
any
I,
will
close
that
and
let's
take
a
show
of
hands
how
many
are
in
favor
and
if
you
want
to
open
it
up
for
all.
Yes,
how
about
are
you?
Okay
with?
Would
you
like
to
comment
on
Commissioner
Cranston?
Being
vice-chair?
No,
you
don't,
okay,
all
right!
So
then
we'll
take
it
back
for
a
vote.
Let's
all
raise
their
hands
if
we
are
in
favor
of
Commissioner
Cranston
being
vice
chair.
A
M
M
A
M
I
M
Second
item
is
an
email
that
I
sent
out
a
few
hours
ago.
I
did
update
the
epc
handbook,
it's
more
of
a
kind
of
electronic
functional
version
now
so
links
to
important
websites
and
helpful
information
on
the
web
also
updated.
Some
of
the
key
information
about
procedures
and
city
organizations
so
should
be
fully
up
to
date.
Now,
and
you
know,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
its
content,
feel
free
to.
Let
me.
A
M
I
did
want
to
call
out
something
that
we
found
on
the
agenda,
template
and
just
make
sure
everybody
was
aware
of
this.
The
city
council
policy,
for
when
an
item
needs
to
be
voted
on
to
proceed
at
a
certain
hour.
So
if
council
has
a
policy
that
the
body
vote
to
start
a
new
item
after
a
certain
time
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
okay
going
into
the
late
hours
and
the
council
policy,
is
10:00
p.m.
M
M
M
It's
most
of
you
at
this
point
right,
yeah,
so
five
out
of
seven
of
you
right,
okay,
so
we
can.
We
can
do
that.
I
have
some
forms.
Like
I
said
we
are,
as
I'm
sure,
you've
noticed
on
the
emails
that
go
out
announcing
the
agenda
items
consistent
with
council
policy
and
our
paper.
Saving
policy
and
other
cost-saving
measures
were
not
Korea
careering
hard
copies.
M
M
Well,
I
mean
that
you
know
I,
think
I
think
this
is.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
discuss
if
you
want,
if
you
have
other
ideas
about
ways
to
efficiently
view
the
materials.
If
there's
other
technology
that
you
might
need
I
know,
some
people
are
using
their
own
laptops
and
their
own
computers
as
well.
So
if
you're,
you
know
you
you
can
they.
M
The
clerk
also
has
can
show
you
how
to
get
legislation
and
other
kind
of
useful
systems
downloaded
on
whatever
machine
you
want
to.
If
you
have
a
desktop
at
home,
whatever
machine
you
want
to
use
most
usefully
review
these
materials,
so
we
also
open
to
further
conversation
about
this
and
feel
free
to
call
me
or
email
me.
We
can.
We
can
discuss
the
last
thing
that
I
yeah.
A
I
You
might
I,
don't
know
if
the
developers
are
aware
of
this
policy,
but
summer
health
seemed
a
little
bit
surprised
today
that
there
weren't
paper
copies
made
available
because
they
had
made
them
available
to
staff.
So
as
developers
are
providing
them,
I
don't
know
who
pays
for
them,
yeah
actual
printing,
that
it
would
maybe
make
sense
to
just
let
them
know
that
that's
the
new
policy,
if.
A
A
It's
possible
to
like
just
out
of
this
last
one:
maybe
there
would
have
been
ten
pages.
I
would
have
wanted
to
see
there
the
ten
most
prominent
pages
and
and
is
it
possible
alternately
to
have
to
say
that
the
developers
can
offer
that
if
we
have
a
meeting
with
them,
you
know
that
that
they
bring
certain
number
of
pages
so
that
we
can
see
them.
Then,
okay,
I,
guess
because
I'm
I'm
also
challenged
with
the
idea.
A
I
know
you
say
we
can
come
on
in,
but
as
I
mentioned
to
you
before
right,
my
workday
usually
starts
before
yours
and
and
ends
after
yours,
and
so
I
mean
it
means
that
you
know
I
ended
up
putting
in
an
hour
and
a
half's
worth
of
extra
driving.
Just
to
get
here,
you
know
to
see
it
during
office
hours
and
so
I
think
mr.
Cranston
is
similar.
Oh
yeah.
D
E
Mean
the
the
normal
documents
I'm
I
use
the
iPad
that
make
notations
on
mm-hmm.
It's
the
it's.
The
back
show
project
plans
that
I
struggle
with
I,
don't
need
every
I
mean
all
the
stuff
you
sent
down.
I
didn't
need
all
the
rest
of
us.
Don't
like
that.
I
was
fine
in
there,
but
not
being
able
to
see
the
project.
Plans
is
just
presents
a
challenge.
It's
it's
hard
to
like
zoom
in
on
things
on
the
iPad
and
then
make
notes
and
keep
up
with
it.
So
it's
I'd
be
willing
to
pay
for
them
myself.
E
If
you'd.
Let
me
but
I'll
pay
for
the
courier
service,
because
it
is
it's
really
helpful.
No,
my
Saturday
mornings
are
with
the
iPad
have
been
with
ed,
ped
and
drawings
eating
it
in
my
favorite
breakfast
place
there
for
two
hours
going
through
these
things,
and
it's
just
it's
just
not
as
effective.
Fortunately,
this
one
is
something
we'd
seen
so
kind
of
knew.
What
to
look
for,
but
on
a
new
project.
It's
it's
gonna,
be
hurt,
I
mean.
A
D
A
A
I
B
M
If
there
is
a
study
session,
that's
the
same
night
as
the
public
hearing,
so
moving
forward,
that's
councils
doing
that
more
as
well
having
more
study
sessions
in
this
room
as
well
and
I,
I
kind
of
just
wanted
to
get
your
input
on
that
and
the
value
of
having
the
more
intimate
setting
of
the
plaza
I
know
is
important
to
some
people.
But
there
is
a
kind
of
overriding
concern
about
making
sure
that
we
have
clear
broadcasting
of
the
the
meeting
the
whole
meeting
as
its
as
its
held
and
posting
of
that.
M
E
I
M
A
M
A
Also
wanted
to
ask
you
a
question:
there's
a
follow-up
of
something
we
brought
up
before
and
that's
at
the
education
on
SB
330
I
heard
through
the
grapevine
that
staff
had
already
dedicated
some
time
on
this
and
I
was
wondering.
If
you
know
we
might
have
a
study
session
where
you
could
present.
You
know
what
you've
learned
to
us
in
terms
of
how
it
would
affect
you
know
our
meetings
going
forward,
mm-hmm.
M
You
know
just
the
the
the
aside
that
I
would
put
is
that
a
lot
of
SB
330
is
administrative
in
nature
and
not
necessarily
policy
level.
It
certainly
does
affect
how
you
know
your
your
ability
to
continue
a
meeting.
For
example,
you
may
not
be
able
to
do
that
and
in
the
future,
and
staff
would
be
prepared
to
warn
you
of
such
a
such
a
case.
M
A
A
D
A
I
mean
and
then
the
other
one
was
to
set.
There
was
a
provision,
the
displacement
provision,
and
that
had
to
do
with.
You
know
that
if
somebody
were
to
mud
demolish
an
existing
rent-controlled
building,
they
would
have
to
bring
back
the
project
with
an
equal
number
of
rent
controlled
units.
At
the
same
rates
for
in
the
existing
tenants,
I
mean
the
American.
It's
yeah.
M
We
are
going
to
be
bringing
the
r3
update
process
through
the
EPC
real
soon,
maybe
not
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
but
certainly
very
soon
after
that
and
the
so
that
I
think
can
kind
of
help
address
the
whole
displacement
issue,
because
it's
very
tightly
wrapped
up
with
with
what
we're
doing
in
our
three
the
the
number
of
meetings
issue
I,
don't
foresee
it
right
now
being
a
complete
bypass
of
the
EPC
okay
right.
If
a
project
was
already
going
to
go
through
a
recommendation
process,
the
EPC
doesn't
add
a
meeting
right.
M
A
M
M
A
E
M
We
also
have
some
minor
code
amendments
related
to
accessory
dwelling
units
to
try
to
bring
that
in
line
with
recent
state
laws
and
then
also
in
upcoming
meetings.
We
are
looking
at
an
SB
743
study
session.
So
that's
about
the
transition
from
level
of
service
for
roadway
performance
to
vehicle
miles
traveled.
M
We
have
a
couple
of
projects
that
are
in
the
near-term
pipeline,
coming
up
thousand
one
North
Shore
line
a
couple
of
residential
buildings
on
the
corner
of
shoreline
and
Terra
Bella,
and
a
project
on
Fayette
near
San
Antonio,
and
we
also
have
some
upcoming
tenant
relocation
assistance
ordinance
amendments.
So
those
are
the
things
that
are
in
the
pipeline
coming
up
and
that's
closest
what
I
have
to
report
yeah.
K
K
I
Sure
so
last
Friday
was
joint
venture
Silicon,
Valley
State
of
the
valley
address.
There
were
two
really
excellent
presentations
about
the
jobs,
housing
imbalance
and
what
are
some
of
regional
communities
doing
I
once
the
video
is
ready,
I
will
send
it
to
Eric
to
see
if
we
can
send
it
around,
but
I
think
it's
really
powerful
work
and
that
all
of
the
statistics
about
the
state
of
the
valley,
number
of
jobs,
added
number
of
housing
units
permitted
in
the
pipeline,
all
of
that's
online
and
available
I
would
highly
encourage
our
new
commissioners.
I
K
E
M
A
Okay,
other
commissioners,
okay,
then
I'll
just
mention
that
yeah
I
guess
during
our
rather
extended
absence
from
regular
meetings.
There's
two
things
I've
been
involved
in
one
is
I've
been
dialing
in
for
the
bi-weekly
calls
of
the
group
called
livable
California.
That
has
been
trying
to
advocate,
on
behalf
of
maintaining
local
control
over
our
planning.
B
D
A
Had
it's
had
a
annual
meeting
and
the
subject
of
the
annual
meeting
this
year
was
planning
the
historical
associations
role
for
the
next
ten
years,
and
so
it's
kind
of
like
our
own
General
Plan
Update,
and
one
of
the
things
that
a
number
of
things
were
discussed.
I
mean
that
the
real
thing
about
it
is.
Is
that
we're
trying
to
replan
the
organization
so
that
it's
useful
and
interesting
to
people
as
the
years
go
on,
and
particularly
to
the
younger
generation
of
people
here
in
Mountain
View?
A
And
there
was
a
grouping
broken
up
into
several
different
topics.
The
chair
of
the
Human
Relations
Commission,
Ida,
Rose
Sylvester,
was
our
moderator,
and
one
of
the
interesting
things
was
is
that
there
was
an
interest
group
on
keeping
tabs
on.
What's
going
on.
You
know
in
terms
of
city,
government
and
planning
and
how
that
affects
our
historical
resources,
so
we'll
be
trying
to
address.