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Live teleconference meeting of the City of Mountain View Environmental Planning Commission Meeting scheduled for Wednesday, August 17, 2022.
Live Video Conference: YouTube, mountainview.legistar.com, and Comcast Channel 26.
A
Finally,
I
printed
the
wrong
one,
my
script
right
here,
so
I
will
call
to
order
the
august
17th
meeting
of
2022
of
the
environmental
planning
commission
of
the
city
of
mountain
view
at
703
pm
during
this
declared
state
of
emergency.
The
meeting
will
be
conducted
according
to
california
government
code,
504
953,
paragraph
e,
as
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
the
city
clerk
of
mountain
view
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
apical
resolution.
A
At
last
night's
city
council
meeting
city
council
adopted
a
resolution
allowing
virtual
meetings
for
all
advisory
bodies.
So
item
6.1
on
the
agenda
this
evening
is
redundant
to
that
action.
As
a
result,
item
6.1
will
be
pulled
from
this
meeting's
agenda.
All
roll
call,
all
votes
will
be
taken
by
roll
call.
I'll
now
ask
the
epc
clerk
to
call
the
role.
Ms
freitas
commissioner
clark
here.
A
Here,
christian
here
meyer,
let
anderson-
I
know
ahead
of
time
that
she
was
not
feeling.
D
A
And
would
not
be
joining
us
so
first
time
on
the
agenda
next
adam
engine
is
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
environmental
planning
commission
meeting
of
august
3rd
first.
Is
there
any
discussion
from
apc
members
on
the
minutes.
A
We'll
open
it
up
for
public
comment.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
and
or
press
star.
None
on
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
6.
epc
clerk
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up
miss
freitas.
Do
we
have
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
the
minutes.
B
A
G
C
A
Next
section
is
oral
communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
epc
on
things
that
are
not
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes.
State
law
prohibits
the
commission
from
acting
on
a
non-agenda
item,
any
member
on
the
line
wishing
to
provide
comments
on
a
non-agenda
item.
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hen
button
in
zoom
or
press
star.
None
on
your
phone
young
muser's
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
6.
A
A
We'll
close
item
four
item:
five
is
the
public
hearing
with
the
870
east
el
camino
residential
project?
First,
do
any
commissioners
wish
to
making
these
closures
regarding
contact
with
the
applicant.
A
Oh,
I
did
visit
the
site
cheering
in.
A
I
Well,
good
evening
to
chair
cranston
and
the
commissioners,
my
name
is
phillip:
brennan,
I'm
the
project
planner
for
this
development
application
I'll
be
providing
you
a
brief
overview
of
the
project.
This
evening
the
applicant
has
prepared
their
own
presentation
that
will
focus
on
the
finer
aspects
of
the
design
for
the
project
afterwards,.
E
I
The
project
cites
an
approximately
9.1
acre
site
located
in
the
el
camino
real
precise
plan
or
p-38
plan
area.
It
abuts
the
city
of
sunnyvale's
boundary
along
the
south
side,
property
line,
the
site
borders
in
r2
zoning
district
along
the
north
and
east
property
lines,
and
also
partially
borders.
The
el
camino
real
plan
area
where
the
avante
hotel
is
located
to
the
north
and
it
fronts
el
camino,
along
the
west
property
line.
I
The
project
is
comprised
of
two
six-story
buildings
that
will
provide
233
units
and
bring
the
overall
count
for
the
entire
development
to
371
units
in
total.
In
addition
to
the
existing
surface
parking
on
site,
the
project
will
provide
240
new
stalls
within
a
two
level:
underground
parking
garage
and
16
additional
surface
parking
spaces.
I
Some
of
the
key
features
of
the
project
include
a
new
public
access,
easement
between
mir
drive
and
el
camino,
providing
a
convenient
pedestrian
pathway
to
and
from
the
commercial
retail
uses
along
el
camino.
The
project
proposes
more
than
50
000
square
feet
of
common
usable,
open
area
for
tenants
and
several
on-site
amenities,
including
a
fitness
facility.
Rooftop
terrace
dog
run
two
courtyards
outdoor
seating
and
dining
areas
and
a
work
and
work
areas.
I
The
project
is
a
tier
one
project
in
the
el
camino
real
precise
plan,
which
provides
additional
floor
area
or
far
and
building
height
with
the
contribution
of
public
benefits
in
lieu
of
providing
physical
public
improvements.
The
applicant
has
opted
to
meet
the
tier
one
public
benefit
requirement
by
paying
the
public
benefit
value
approved
by
the
city
council
for
the
precise
plan,
and
that
benefit
will
be
approximately
638
000
dollars
and
will
be
used
towards
future
improvements.
I
Within
the
precise
plan
area,
a
total
of
202
trees
were
inventoried
across
the
site
of
which
117
are
categorized
as
heritage
trees.
The
project
is
proposing
to
remove
39
trees
in
total,
including
15
trees
due
to
their
location
within
the
proposed
building
footprints
and
any
and
necessary
site
improvements
which
support
the
new
buildings.
The
project
will
provide
153
new
tree
plantings
across
the
site,
all
of
which
will
be
at
least
24
inch
box
in
size
or
larger.
The
tree
canopy
on
site
is
projected
to
increase
to
three
times
the
existing
canopy
at
full
maturity.
I
I
In
addition
to
unlimited
development
waivers
for
the
provisions
of
the
state
density
bonus
law,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
utilize
one
concession
to
request
an
approximately
two
percent
reduction
to
the
open
area
requirement
for
the
project
and
five
development,
waivers
related
to
increased
building
height,
reduced
setbacks
from
property
lines
in
between
structures
to
accommodate
construction
of
the
affordable
housing
units
permitted
by
the
the
the
density
it
qualified
for
the
project
is
subject
to
three
applicable
local
and
state,
affordable
housing
requirements.
It's
important
to
note
that
these
requirements
are
not
cumulative.
I
Sp
330
expressly
states
that
the
replacement
units
count
towards
qualifying
for
a
density
bonus
and
local
inclusionary
requirements.
The
project
meets
the
fifth,
the
city's
15
local
inclusionary
requirement
by
providing
24
units
at
two
income
levels.
As
previously
mentioned,
the
project
is
providing
11
percent
of
the
total
base
units
to
qualify
for
the
35
state
density
bonus,
which
equates
to
33
units
offered
at
very
low
inc
for
very
low
income.
I
Households
and
sp
330
features
a
replacement
unit
requirement
that
requires
all
42
removed,
rent
protected
units
for
this
project
to
be
replaced
that
rents
affordable
to
former
tenants.
The
applica,
the
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
satisfy
the
replacement
requirement
by
offering
34
of
the
42
units
at
rents
equal
to
or
less
than
80
ami,
and
is
dedicating
the
remaining
eight
designated
csfra
units
at
income
restricted
as
income
restricted
to
no
more
than
120
ami.
I
However,
the
city
will
be
recommending
to
the
city
council
that
the
remaining
units
be
deed,
restricted
at
low
income
or
80
ami
per
its
discretion,
and
pursuant
to
sb
330
guidelines.
I
The
project
is
required
to
provide
relocation,
assistance
for
the
requirements
of
the
community,
stabilization
of
fair
act,
rent
act
or
csfra,
the
2018
tenant,
relocation,
assistance,
ordinance
and
sb330.
Under
these
local
and
state
provisions,
displaced
tenants
are
eligible
for
different
relocation
assistance.
The
various
tenant
relocation
assistance
categories
are
broken
down
in
the
table
found
in
exhibit
five
of
the
staff
report.
I
It
should
be
mentioned
that
the
applicant
has
voluntarily
proposed
to
provide
the
cash
equivalent
of
four
and
a
half
months,
rent
for
comparably
sized
units
and
bedroom
types
for
displaced,
tenants
eligible
under
category
b.
This
is
a
month
and
a
half
more
or
beyond
the
standard
requirement.
I
did
want
to
make
note
to
the
commission
that
we
have
staff
from
our
housing
division
that
can
speak
in
detail
regarding
the
affordable
housing
requirements
and
our
tenant
relocation
program.
I
An
initial
study
of
environmental
significance
was
prepared
to
evaluate
whether
any
new
environmental
effects
would
occur
as
a
result
of
the
project
which
were
not
already
examined
under
the
el
camino
real
precise
plans
program
eir.
The
initial
study
found
that
the
checklist
determined
that
the
proposed
project
inclusive
of
the
additional
191
net
new
residential
units
beyond
those
analyzed
in
the
precise
plan
feir,
would
result
in
either
the
same
or
lesser
impact
than
addressed
in
the
precise
plans
feir
and
and
complies
with
the
environmental,
the
california
environmental
quality
act.
I
Staff's
recommendation
is
noted
on
the
screen
and
that
will
conclude
my
presentation
staff's
available
to
answer
any
questions
from
the
epc
and
excuse
me
and
in
terms
of
next
steps.
The
project
is
tentatively
scheduled
to
go
before
the
city
council
on
september
27th
for
final
review.
Thank
you.
J
Thanks
phillip,
if
ashesh
can
get
his
presentation
up
we'll
start
there
we
go
great.
Can
anybody?
Can
everybody
hear
me
excellent
all
right,
good
evening,
chair
cranston
commissioners,
my
name
is
drew
sullins,
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
project
sponsor
equity,
residential
I'm
joined
by
sahiba,
with
steinberg
heart
architects
and
by
james
munden
with
london,
fried
landscape,
architects
I'll
provide
a
short
intro
and
then
hand
it
off
to
them
to
present
the
design
a
little
history.
J
A
few
highlights,
I
think,
philip
touched
on
some
of
these.
The
existing
properties,
9.1
acres,
extending
from
el
camino
real
over
a
thousand
feet
back
into
the
neighborhood,
and
that
depth
allowed
us
to
locate
the
new
buildings
close
to
el
camino,
real
away
from
the
existing
single
family
homes.
J
The
remainder
of
the
property
will
remain
as
it
appears
today,
with
the
notable
exception
of
added
trees
and
landscaping.
The
new
project
amenities
will
be
shared
by
all
our
residents,
both
existing
and
new,
and
the
project
will
target
a
lead.
Gold
designation,
as
sustainability
is
very
important
to
our
company
benefits
to
the
community
include
the
34
below
market
rate
inclusionary
units
that
was
detailed
in
the
staff
report,
which
is
18
of
the
net
new
units
plus
eight
additional
rent
controlled
units.
J
The
project
will
make
a
parkland
dedication
fee
payment
of
over
12
million
dollars,
which
is
about
66
000
for
net
new
unit.
The
project
will
join
mountain
view's
transportation
management
association
and
include
mvgo
shuttle
service,
and
the
project
will
include
a
new
pedestrian
access
easement
connecting
the
sylvan
park
neighborhood
with
el
camino
real.
K
Thanks
drew
and
thanks
phillip
for
the
introduction,
and
I'm
glad
to
be
here
with
the
commission
and
chair
I'll,
just
back
up
a
little
bit.
K
This
is
the
existing
aerial
photograph
currently
of
the
site
and,
as
noted,
what
we're
doing
is
increasing
density
towards
el
camino,
real,
where
we
have
a
split
zone
site.
The
portion
that's
closer
to
el
camino.
Real
is
called
the
mic
mixed
the
mixed-use
site
and
then
further
back
is
lira,
which
is
the
residential
only
site.
So
our
ability
to
increase
density
towards
el
camino
real
is
what
we
were
really
looking
for,
specifically
with
the
scale
of
the
buildings
along
that
that
corridor
as
well.
K
K
I
think
that,
just
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
some
some
drawings
here,
as
you
can
see,
there's
really
two
main
buildings
that
comprise
the
additional
units,
this
building,
which
is
closest
to
el
camino,
which
we
call
building
g
and
then
building
f,
which
is
situated
slightly
beyond
that
towards
the
north.
These
existing
buildings
will
be
retained
and,
with
all
the
existing
buildings,
there's
some
refurbishment
they'll
be
done
just
to
bring
everything
up
to
a
standard
where
we
could
stitch
the
entire
site
together,
both
architecturally
and
through
the
landscape.
K
I'll
just
show
you
a
few
renderings
that
we've
prepared
as
part
of
our
development
of
this
design.
This
is
looking
down
el
camino
from
sunnyvale
into
mountain
view,
with
building
to
the
right
and
then
looking
directly
on
the
elevation
from
el
camino.
As
philip
mentioned
we're,
we
we've
set
the
building
back
a
little
bit
further
from
el
camino
than
the
maximum
setback
to
preserve
the
heritage
tree.
K
That's
here
and
really
the
architecture
is
meant
to
be
broken
up
in
a
way
to
humanize
the
scale
of
of
the
size
of
this
building
and
we're
really
using
materials
as
wood,
concrete
and
and
fiber
cement.
In
order
to
bring
these
earth
tones
down
to
the
ground
and
allowing
essentially
where
we
create
massing
breaks
the
acknowledgement
of
entry
into
into
the
building.
So
using
that
as
a
wayfinding
way
of
of
approaching
the
building,
you
could
see
a
bit
closer
here.
K
The
entry
with
units
above
and
balconies,
as
well
as
some
amenities
space
connected
to
it
at
the
ground
level,
and
then,
when
we
go
further
into
the
site,
the
existing
building
with
the
adjacent
new
development
and,
as
you
can
see,
looking
at
really
enhancing
the
landscape
and
the
material
palette
to
help
connect
and
stitch
the
two
together
and
then,
as
we
come
to
mirror
drive,
there's
a
lot
of
mature
trees,
already
existing
additional
ones
that
will
be
planted.
That
james
will
speak
to
and
the
buildings.
K
These
are
the
existing
buildings
that
you
can
see
here
and
some
refurbishment
with
color
and
and
materials
that
we'll
do
to
help
connect
the
two
again
and
the
color
palette
and
the
material
palette
that
we're
utilizing
for
our
project.
L
Thanks
shush
hi,
my
name
is
james,
the
landscape,
architect
working
on
the
project,
and
I
think
one
of
the
the
biggest
kind
of
goals
for
us
was
really
to
try
and
integrate
the
new
property
development
within
the
whole
site.
And
so
this
plan,
that's
in
front
of
you,
shows
the
new
property
within
the
site
boundary
and
I
think
the
a
huge
part
of
the
site's
character
is
the
existing
trees
and
vegetation
and
part
of
the.
L
L
What's
there
already
working
closely
with
an
arborist
and
and
the
city
to
do
that,
the
this
next
slide
zooms
in
more
to
to
our
project
site
and
as
part
of
kind
of
the
overall
strategy
of
merging
the
the
existing
and
the
new
together,
we
really
wanted
to
make
it
feel
like
a
very
accessible
space,
carving
out
programmed
immunity
areas
in
in
areas
where
we
could
and
the
enlargement
bubbles.
L
L
The
as
I
mentioned,
the
the
trees
are
a
huge
part
of
the
character
and
the
existing
tree
coverage
on
the
side
is
approximately
36
and,
as
part
of
the
the
city
goals,
to
to
improve
that
we're
bringing
in
more
trees
and
and
retaining
as
many
as
we
can
and
hitting
a
just
over
50
54
tree
coverage
and-
and
I
think
part
of
that
was
not
only
to
get
that
coverage,
but
also
to
start
filtering
in
new
trees,
similar
species
that
we're
we're
kind
of
adding
into
the
new
property
and
adding
those
same
species
within
the
existing
property
to
again
kind
of
help.
L
L
Then,
as
we
move
towards
the
the
new
development,
we're
introducing
a
dog
run
for
small
and
large
dogs
and
there's
going
to
be
other
areas
where
we're
going
to
be
carving
out
more
outdoor
dining
facilities,
where
there's
a
service
road,
which
kind
of
wraps
the
back
side
of
the
of
the
development.
L
That
really
starts
to
kind
of
carve
out
these
garden
rooms
and
and
part
of
the
the
design
philosophy
was
to
really
kind
of
be
more
organic
and
creating.
You
know
creating
spaces
using
a
lot
more
natural
shapes,
again
kind
of
kind
of
speaking
to
some
of
the
the
additional
existing
kind
of
shapes
and
spaces
that
are
on
the
site.
L
And
again,
I
think
these
spaces
are
wanting
to
be
fairly
flexible,
still
some
certain
amount
of
program,
but
especially
during
the
times
of
cobin
and
pandemic.
We
realize
how
important
the
outside
spaces
are
for
for
serving
you
know
the
community
here
and
and
for
people
who
visit.
L
So
these
slides
just
start
to
kind
of
show
you
how
that
program
can
has
been
developed
and
the
spaces
that
have
been
created.
L
The
this
next
slide
just
has
a
bit
more:
the
zoomed
in
of
the
the
service
road
entry
and
the
the
kind
of
carved
out
areas
for
these
small
exercise
stations.
And
again,
I
think
the
idea
is
that
when
you
walk
through
the
through
the
site,
it
has
that
park
feel
to
it
and
there's
definitely
a
blurring
of
public
and
private
boundaries.
There,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
a
really
kind
of
selling
point
not
only
for
the
people
that
live
there,
but
also
for
people
to
visit.
L
And
I
think
the
the
next
slide
shows
some
roofed
roof
terrace,
which
will
provide
again
and
some
more
outdoor
rooms
rooms
with
a
view.
These
will
have
different
furnishings,
but
ultimately
have
these
kind
of
fire
lounges
that
will
provide
yeah
another
another
amenity
space
to
enjoy.
L
And-
and
this
is
these
couple
of
next
slides-
show
a
section
elevation
through
the
courtyard
and
part
of
the
goal.
L
Definitely
when,
when
we're
working
on
a
podium
situation,
where
we're
not
on
grade
was
to
try
and
really
you
know,
integrate
a
landscape
that
feels
grounded,
and
so
this
kind
of
shows
the
approach
that
we're
taking
with
integrating
these
different
outside
spaces,
but
still
providing
privacy
for
those
units
on
on
the
on
the
lower
level,
but
providing
still
enough
kind
of
tree
coverage
as
well,
so
that
when
people
are
looking
down,
it's
not
a
fish
bowl
and
people
are
still
kind
of
able
to
enjoy
those
spaces
with
a
certain
level
of
intimacy
and
privacy.
L
And
this
last
slide
just
shows
the
palette
of
materials
again
working
with
the
the
architectural
palette
and
the
mixture
of
cast
in
place
concrete
for
sidewalks
and
then
more
enhanced,
paving
at
entry
thresholds
and
interlocking
paving
at
the
entry
drive
thresholds
just
to
mark
those
important
entry
points
and
then
using
wherever
we
can
a
stone
aggregate
to
encourage.
L
And
I
think
something
that
you
know
is
an
important
part
not
only
for
for
safety
and
but
also
for
you
know,
creating
an
enjoyable
space
at
night
time.
The
lighting
design
has
kind
of
followed
a
lot
of
the
standard
cues,
for
you
know
different
best
practices,
but
also
really
trying
to
create
a
an
enjoyable
space
in
these
different
amenity
areas.
But,
ultimately,
you
know
providing
a
safe
environment
for
people
to
enjoy
24
hours
a
day.
K
Great
thanks
james,
that
that
concludes
our
presentation,
we're
of
course
available
for
any
questions
from
the
commission.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
For
just
for
people
on
the
phone
understand
the
the
on
something
like
a
formal
hearing
like
this,
the
first
step.
The
next
step
is
for
the
commissioners
to
ask
questions,
then
we'll
open
up
for
input
from
the
public
and
then
bring
it
back
after
that
to
the
commission
for
deliberation
and
action.
So
at
this
point,
are
there
questions
from
commissioners
of
either
staff
or
the
applicant
commissioner
gutierrez.
H
L
I
love
those
existing
those
existing
heritage,
trees
within
the
building
footprint,
so
they're
pretty.
It
was
pretty
impossible
to
keep
them
without
without
the
project
not
occurring,
I
think
where,
where
we
can
and
where
we
could
save
existing
heritage,
trees
and
other
trees,
we
we
did-
and
we
definitely
had
a
long
back
and
forth
with
looking
at
the
opportunities
for
transplanting,
and
there
was
big
aspirations
to
do
that.
But
the
more
we
drill
down
with
the
city
and
the
city
arborist.
L
There
was
just
not
the
practical
way
of
doing
it,
and
so
it
made
more
sense
to
to
kind
of
commit
to
some
very
large
trees
that
would
replace
some
of
those
heritage
trees
that
we
were
removing.
L
Yeah,
it's
84
of
the
palette
is
native
and
drought.
Tolerant,
I
think
all
of
the
species
are,
you
know,
climate
appropriate,
but
but
yeah
we
made
efforts
to
make
sure
that
it
was
a
high
percentage
of
native
native
plants.
H
Okay
and
then
my
second
question
is-
or
I
guess
is,
it
revolves
around
the
replacement
units
and
the
below
market
rate
units.
Are
these
typically
for
either
type
of
these
two
designations?
Are
they
typically
spread
out
throughout
the
campus,
or
are
they
grouped
together
in
a
certain
area?
How?
How
is
that
being
approached.
J
H
D
Just
a
a
couple
things
probably
for
staff
is
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
looked
at
the
the
density,
bonus
rules
and
the
waivers
and
everything
so
in
terms
of
the
the
qualification
for
the
two
concessions
or
incentives
in
the
development
standard
waivers,
are
those
pretty
pretty
much?
Are
those
almost
automatic
as
long
as
they're
reasonable
or
do?
D
Are
there
things
that
you
have
to
do
to
qualify
for
each
of
those
or
for
whichever
ones
of
those
are
requested,
or
is
it
sort
of
a
like
a
reasonable
and
necessary
sort
of
standard?
I'm
just
curious
how
discretionary
those
are.
I
I
Monetary
impacts
to
the
project
with
respect
to
what
they're
requesting
a
concession
for
a
reduced
open
area
to
provide
the
required
open
area,
they
would
have
to
basically
tear
up
some
existing
parking
spaces
and
relocate
those
in
the
underground
parking
area.
D
Yeah
I
saw
that
and
underground
park
is
expensive.
Do
you
know
approximately
how
many
spaces
would
would
it
looks
like
there's
about
a
five
thousand
square
foot
I'll?
Let.
I
Yeah
I'll
let
drew
confirm,
but
I
believe
what
the
number
was:
13.
Oh
wow,
okay,
so.
A
D
It's
okay,
if
you
can't
find
it
I
was.
I
was
more
looking
for
order
of
magnitude
than
the
exact
figure,
so
those
are
all
the
questions
I
have
about.
You.
F
Yes,
I
was
curious
if
you
wouldn't
mind
going
through
the
tenants
that
are
going
to
vacate
the
areas
like
if
you
have
maybe
a
general
overview
of
the
process
you
guys
went
through
and
how
many
people
are
already
gone
and
if
they're
coming
back.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
that
and
how
many
got
moved
into
some
of
the
existing
buildings
who
opted
for
that.
I
was
just
curious
if
you
could
just
kind
of
walk
us
through
that.
J
J
This
is
going
back
to
2019
or
42,
originally
impacted
units
and
our
property
team
and
our
property
management
company
made
a
lot
of
efforts
to
reach
out
to
everybody
and
connect
with
everybody
and
make
sure
that
they
were
all
aware
of
the
options
that
they
had
and,
of
course
the
city
has
their
own
consultant
arws,
who
helps
kind
of
coordinate
everything
and
qualify
people,
and
that's
an
independent
process
to
you
know
any
communications
that
we're
providing.
But
from
my
perspective,
it
seemed
like
it
was
fairly
seamless
we're
going
on
a
couple
of
years.
J
Now,
there's
you
know
with
any
property
like
this
going
to
be
a
certain
amount
of
resident.
You
know
turnover,
and
you
know,
along
with
this
process,
I
believe
at
least
the
last
time
I
looked
at
the
status
report
on
this
of
those
original
42.
J
J
I
may
be
slightly
off
on
that,
but
I
think
that's
that's
fairly
accurate.
Does
that
answer
your
question?
Yeah.
F
That
helps
a
lot
and
is
the
are
the
buildings
that
are
right
next
to
building
f,
they're
sort
of
in
an
l
shape
at
this
point.
Are
those
full
or
are
they
empty.
J
J
We
have
had
residents
approach,
the
management
company
about
you
know
being
concerned
about
being
located
close
to
the
construction
site
and
I
think
we're
working
with
those
people
where
we
can
to
help
them
relocate.
Also.
F
Okay,
okay,
great!
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
I
had
one
other
question
and
this
is
maybe
something
the
staff
can
answer
for
concessions
and
waivers.
I
believe
they're
they're
entitled
so
there's
really
no
discussion
about
them.
Is
that
correct?
Because
of
what
their?
What
the.
I
I
Right
well
with
resp
yeah,
with
respect
to
the
concessions
they
are
entitled
to
up
to
two
concessions
or
incentives
based
off
the
provision
of
affordable
housing,
the
level
of
affordable
housing
they're,
provided.
However,
they
have
to
provide
justification
for
that
similar
with
waivers
they
need
to
provide.
I
The
waivers
are,
are
utilized
for
relief
from
development
standards
that
would
physically
preclude
the
project
from
building
to
the
density
permitted.
So
they
just
need
to
provide
justification
of
the
waivers,
how
that's
impacting
them
from
constructing
to
the
density
allowed,
and
so
that's
outlined
in
the
density
bonus.
Request,
letter.
I
They're
right,
I'm
not
sure
if
sandy
wants
to
clarify,
but
I
believe
they're
being
requested
and
then
they've
been
reviewed
by
this
city
and
approved
or
supported.
F
M
I
did
thank
you
chair.
Can
you
hear
me.
A
M
Perfect,
my
name
is
andrea
kennedy
and
I
work
with
the
city
of
mountain
view
and
oversee
the
tenant
relocation
portion
of
this
project,
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
on
to
what
drew
had
mentioned
about
the
tenants
who
had
received
relocation
assistance.
So
we
have
had
five
households
apply
for
relocation
assistance
at
this
project.
M
A
Thanks
so
sorry
about
that,
commissioner
thought
she
was
trying
to
answer
that
question
that.
A
G
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
the
the
questions
that
vice
chair
yen
raised.
I
think
they're
they're
important,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
got
it.
I
got
everything
covered
here
so
on
the
the
accommodations
for
the
folks
that
are
that
are
that
are
having
to
leave
so
just
so
that
I'm
100
clear
all
42
of
those
units,
the
people
that
were
in
them
and
have
left
since
2019.
They
all
were
offered
these
accommodations
is
that
right.
O
G
G
So
that's
great
that's
what
I
need
to
know
help
me
under
I'm
a
little
worried
about
the
folks
in
buildings
see
so
those
are
the
two
buildings
that
are
like
right
up
next
to
the
construction
site
and
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
there's
a
bunch
of
folks
still
living
in
those
help
me
understand
what
accommodations
you're
offering
to
the
folks
that
are
going
to
be
living
construction
site
adjacent
in
those
buildings
see
and
there's
two
of
them.
I.
G
G
What
are
you
doing
for
them?
Because-
and
let
me
tell
you
why
I
asked
it's
important
to
answer
when
we
saw
555
west
middle
field,
we
had
a
whole
discussion
about
construction
site
impacts
on
people
who
live
nearby.
Now,
in
that
particular
case,
it
was
all
sort
of
mixed
up
together
and
there
was
a
lot
of
construction,
but
one
of
the
things
we
saw
in
the
eir
was
it
was
going
to
have
some
pretty
significant
air
quality
impacts
on
the
folks
that
were
going
to
live
there
right
in.
G
All
the
other
things,
and
I'm
having
echoes
of
that
as
I'm
reading
this,
and
so
I'm
actually
really
interested
in
this
question
both
of
how
do
you,
how
do
you
work
to
make
it
right
for
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
there?
And
honestly
I
mean
when
I
look
at
the
pictures,
I
don't
mean
to
turn
into
a
comment.
This
is
really
a
question.
It's
a
larger
question,
I'll
tell
you
what
let
me
cut
it
in
half
I'll
save
my
comments
to
the
end.
J
Right
I
appreciate
that
and,
as
I
said,
we
are
working
with
people
who
you
know
will
be
living
adjacent
to
the
construction
site
and
we'll
be
working
with
them
throughout
we're
actually
doing
a
project
similar
to
this
in
santa
clara,
called
laguna
clara.
It
may
be
more
invasive
actually
for
the
existing
residents.
J
Philip
and
I've
had
conversations
about
this
specific
topic
about
air
quality,
and
I
don't
recall
if
it
made
it
into
the
staff
report
or
not,
but
we
are-
and
we
have
you
know
through
kova-
become
kind
of
experts
in
you
know
stand-alone
air
filtration
devices,
so
we
are
committing
to
provide
those
for
all
of
the
residents
throughout
the
property.
I
P
Cool,
can
you
guys
hear
me
yep
all
right
cool,
so
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
questions
that
commissioners
in
and
dempsey
brought
up.
So
I
guess
for
the
developer
first
or
the
applicant.
I
guess
I
should
say
I
when
you
were
responding
to
commissioner
yin,
I
heard
you
kind
of
respond.
Saying
hey
you
guys
made
a
lot
of
efforts
to
reach
out
and
connect,
and
the
city
had
its
own
side
of
the
process.
P
So
I'm
wondering
what
specific
parts
of
you
know
the
outreach
process
fell
under
your
purview.
What
did
you
notify
people
about
and
when
did
you
do
it.
J
Right,
the
I
don't
have
the
dates
in
front
of
me,
but
it
was
2019
when
the
original
announcement
was
made.
You
know
we
had,
I
think,
a
fact
sheet.
I
believe
we
went
through
and
had
that
you
know
kind
of
reviewed
by
by
city
staff.
J
Our
property
management
team
was
out,
you
know,
knocking
on
doors
meeting
with
residents.
This
is
pre-coveted
when
I
say
the
city
had
its
own
process.
I
guess
what
I
mean
is
that
the
you
know
we're
obviously
not
in
a
position
to
be
kind
of
qualifying
people's
incomes.
I
mean
it
should
be
an
independent
process,
and
so
that's
that's
what
I
mean
when
I
say
the
city
had
its
own
part
in
that
process.
J
I
mean
it
was
basically
offering
kind
of
what
you
know
was
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
the
the
kind
of
basically
that
you
have
you
know
for
qualif
for
qualifying
residents.
You
have
the
ability,
you
know
either
to
get
financial
assistance
or
move
within
the
existing
property
to
a
unit
that
won't
be
impacted
or
to
one
of
our
you
know,
kind
of
sister
communities
in
sunnyvale,
plus,
you
know
everything
else
that
was
kind
of
required
at
the
time.
J
J
If
I
could
add
on
you
know,
andrea
and
her
team
have
been
very
proactive
through
the
process.
I
think
they
sent
an
additional
notification
earlier
this
year
to
all
of
those
residents,
at
least
the
ones
that
they
could
locate.
You
know
who,
because
a
lot
of
folks
had
moved
on,
but
they
sent
it
on
to
their
forwarding,
addresses
that
had
kind
of
updated
information
about
all
of
the
things
that
they
could
qualify
for,
because
I
believe
those
benefits
have
been
expanded
under
state
law.
P
Okay,
so
so
then
this
was
2019.
If
I'm
that
you
serve
that,
like
fact
sheet
and
such
right
like
okay
and
then
I
guess
like
steph,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
guess
sp
330
took
effect
january.
1St
2020
is
that
or
what
like
for
staff?
Was
this
application
submitted
before
or
after
sb
330
became
law?
Sorry,
if
I
can't
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head.
A
Q
P
Okay,
cool
and
then
question
for
the
developer
when
your
application
was
deemed
to
have
become
significantly
changed.
What
steps
or
what
notifications
did
you
or
what
outreach
efforts
offers
that?
What
outreach
efforts
did
you
then
initiate
to
inform
residents
about
this
change
such
that
you
know
they
would
know
about
their
rights
under
sb
330.
J
Don't
think
the
unit,
the
the
units
that
were
specified
to
be
originally
impacted
have
changed
since
the
beginning.
I
think
it's
the
same
exact
units,
okay,.
P
Well,
because
so
the
application
I
just
heard
from
staff
that
the
application
was
deemed
to
have
undergone
a
significant
change
such
that
sb330
became
applicable
to
this
project
application.
So
I'm
curious,
you
know
what
efforts
after
that,
you
know
change
occurred.
Did
your
you
or
your
staff
take
to
inform
impacted
residents
either
still
there
or
ones
who
left
about
their
rights
under
sb
330.
M
Sorry
drew
if
I
could
I
I
did
just
want
to
mention
that
as
staff
our
process
is
to
notify
the
tenants
right
away
when
the
applicant
submits
their
formal
application.
So
we
send
out
a
notice
of
intent
in
in
2019
and
then
followed
with
a
in-person
community
meeting,
followed
by
a
mailing
that
went
out
explaining
all
the
the
benefits
that
were
available
to
the
tenants
and
including
an
application,
and,
as
you
mentioned,
commissioner
nunes,
the
project
was
substantially
changed
and
then
sp330
became
applicable
to
this
project.
M
So
we
worked
closely
with
the
applicant
to
draft
a
new,
updated
tenant
relocation
letter.
At
that
time
there
were
a
significant
amount
of
tenants
who
had
already
vacated.
So
again,
we
worked
closely
with
the
applicant
to
find
their
forwarding
addresses
to
make
sure
that
they
knew
of
the
extended
benefits
under
sb
330..
M
We
informed
them
that
if
they
had
already
applied,
they
did
not
need
to
reapply.
We
were
just
going
to
calculate
the
new
benefit
amount
that
they
would
receive.
So
we
mailed
that
to
all
of
the
tenants
who
were
still
occupying
the
units
mailed
it
to
any
forwarding
addresses
that
we
could
find
for
those
tenants
who
had
vacated
and
if
I'm
remembering
correctly,
there
are
only
about
five
households
that
we
couldn't
find
a
forwarding
address
and
four
of
them
were
under
corporate
leases.
M
So
we
did
have
the
forwarding
addresses,
for
you,
know,
99
of
the
households
who
had
vacated
and
we
are
planning
to
send
an
another
update
letter
just
before
the
project
sort
of
goes
to
city
council.
Just
because
you
know
not
too
many
people
have
applied.
So
we
want
to
just
do
our
due
diligence
to
make
sure
that
all
the
tenants
are
aware
of
their
rights.
Underneath
the
trail
and
sb
330.
P
Okay,
so
so
then,
on
february,
25th
2022
how
many
of
those
units
were
still
vacate,
filled
being
leased.
P
Okay
and
then
I
guess,
yeah,
and
how
many
of
those
are
special
circumstance,
households.
M
We
only
have
the
information
for
households
who
have
applied
for
relocation,
assistance,
the
ones
that
have
filled
out
the
application
and
sort
of-
let
us
know
what
their
circumstances
are.
I'm
looking
here
to
see
if
I
have
information
on
special
circumstance,.
M
We
know
what
the
benefits
are
underneath
the
trail
and
we
we
present
those
to
the
tenants
and
we
present
them
with
the
application,
and
then
they
make
the
choice
whether
they
would
like
to
apply
for
the
benefits
or
not
once
they
fill
out
the
application.
That's
when
we
become
aware
of
their
income
levels
and
especially
if
they
qualify
for
a
special
circumstance,
payment.
P
Okay,
so
there's
like
no
initial,
almost
like
census,
taking
of
the
population
prior
to
the
applications
coming
in.
That's
correct,
there's,
not
okay,
all
right!
Second
line
of
questioning
here
I
am
curious
about
the
the
replacement
units.
So
I
guess
the
staff
report
is
recommending
42
units
for
the
replacement
quantity.
P
So
I'm
assuming
it's
safe
to
assume
that
the
15
of
inclusionary
units
that
our
bmr
program
requires
is
being
rolled
up
into
the
same.
You
know
kind
of
like
state
density,
bonus,
sb,
330
requirement.
P
Okay-
and
I
guess,
are
there
what
legal
barriers
exist
or
what's
the
legal
like
interplay
there,
I
guess
I'm
I'm
wondering
like.
Is
it
within
the
ability
of
the
city
to
request
that
the
bmr
units
be
its
own
like
allotment,
separate
from
whatever,
like
a
state
law
like
sb
330
requires.
C
S
Answer
that
thank
you,
so
they
are
state
requirements
that
the
replacement
units
under
sb
330
allow
the
bmr
units
and
the
density
bonus
units
to
count.
So
it's
it's
an
sb
330
and
the
bmr
units
must
also
be
able
to
count
towards
eligibility
for
state
density
bonus,
and
that
is
also
state
law.
That's
an
sb
290,
which
codified
a
2013
appellate
court
decision
without
holding
so
the
city
is,
doesn't
have
flexibility.
P
Sorry,
I
guess
the
the
internet
cut
out
for
a
bit.
So
then,
basically,
we
are
not
able
to
the
state
requirement
for
the
replacement
like
the
maximum.
We
can
actually
get
in
terms
of
replacement
is
42
units.
Is
that
correct
or
is?
Am
I
wrong
on
that.
P
P
Right
and
then
our
bmr,
we
can't
have
a
separate
so
like
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It
seems
like
this
wouldn't
count
towards
our
arena
right
because
we
are
essentially
losing
like
we're
having
42
units
being
demolished.
42
are
being
replaced,
but
if
it's
going
under
like
the
state
density
or
sb
330
requirement,
it
wouldn't
be
like
an
extra
15
allotment.
That
would
then,
for
example,
count
towards
our
bmr
or
I'm
sorry,
our
our
like
rena
goals
or
targets
for
low
income
units,
new
net
new
inc,
low
income
units.
R
Oh,
this
is
michaela,
I'm
apologies
for
not
announcing
myself
earlier
in
the
housing
neighborhood
services
manager,
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
the
renegals
get
calculated,
but
if
I
had
to
guess
the
csfra
units
were
probably
calculated
not
as
deed
restricted,
so
that
will
be
a
change
because
they
will
now
be
deed,
restricted
units.
But
I
don't
know
that
it'll
it.
It's
not
a
net
new
number
of
units.
In
that
sense,.
C
R
I'll
just
add
that
you
know
in
other
situations
the
replacement
units
is
lower
than
the
required
bmr
requirement.
It's
it's
just
this
situation,
where
there's
so
many
replacement
units
required
it's
higher
than
the
required
bmr.
You
require.
A
Okay,
so
I
just
I
think
mr
nunez
asked
my
probably
my
biggest
question
I'll
ask
a
couple
of
men
come
back
to
you,
mr
good
tears,
if
that's
okay,
so
the
this
is
the
question.
If
I'm
reading
the
plans
correctly,
there
are
no
bike
lockers,
as
designed
in
the
building.
That's
farther
from
the
communities
that
you're
building
f,
all
of
the
bike
lockers
are
over
in
building.
O
A
K
Yeah
I
can
answer
that
the
bike
lockers
are
all
located
in
in
the
building
closer
to
el
camino.
Like
you
said,
the
below
grade
garage
spans,
both
buildings
so
connects
both.
So
one
could
either
walk
through
the
garage
into
that
building
or
cross
the
outdoor
loop
that
we
have
there
and
walk
into
that
building
as
well.
So
it's
both
bike,
lockers
and
storage,
personal
storage.
K
We
we
did
that
because
both
buildings
have
a
shared
podium.
So
even
if
you
ride
your
bike
or
drive
your
car,
you
go
into
the
garage
and
essentially
that
garage
connects
both
buildings
from
below
grade.
So
the
both
the
parking
and
the
bike
lockers
are
are
connected
to
both
buildings
through
the
below
grade
construction.
A
A
Maybe
the
two
lines
have
changed
and
then
the
drawing
that
you
showed
of
the
space
between
building
s
and
the
building
sea,
interestingly,
had
moved
the
sun
to
the
north.
A
That
gap
between
the
two
buildings
is
not
an
east-west.
It's
a
it's.
A
it's
very
close
and
completely
building
c
is
going
to
be
completely
shielded
by
that
gives
us
a
question
for
landscaping.
How
are
you
going
to
account
for
the
fact
that
that
gap
between
the
closest
building,
c
and
building
f
are
never
going
to
see
sunlight.
L
A
L
Yeah,
I
think,
obviously,
as
you
say
the
morning
and
the
late
afternoons,
you'll
get
some
of
that
initial
sun.
I
think
in
the
heights
of
the
summer,
when
that
sun
is
really
high,
that
area
will
probably
benefit
as
well
from
having
some
of
that
shade,
knowing
how
hot
it
is
down
there.
L
I
know
one
aspect
of
the
existing
current
condition:
everybody's
kind
of
created
these
kind
of
makeshift
canopies,
to
create
shade.
So
as
much
as
I
respect
that
comment
and
appreciate,
there's
there's
definitely
a
challenge
there
with
light.
I
think
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
as
bad
because
of
the
the
climatic
conditions
of
this
area,
and
there
will
be
quite
a
bit
of
reflective
light
too.
L
So
I
don't
think
it
will
be
dark
in
those
kind
of
in
those
kind
of
days,
but,
as
I
say,
I
think,
with
the
vegetation
we're
using
as
well
it
will,
it
will
provide.
You
know,
a
an
enjoyable
space
still
to
be
in.
K
And
I'll
just
add
to
what
james
is
describing
we,
we
did
do
shadow
studies
for
the
project
also
when
we
visited
with
drc
the
design
review
committee
a
few
few
times
to
review
this
space
as
well
that
you're
bringing
up
chair
cranston,
and
I
think
what
we
noted
there
was
that,
with
some
setbacks
that
we're
creating
on
on
the
adjacent
building
the
new
construction,
we're
able
to
maximize
the
amount
of
light
we
can
bring
in
for,
of
course,
a
taller
building
next
to
the
existing
building.
K
And
what
we
did
also
note
was
that
during
certain
hours
of
the
day
later
in
the
evening,
there
was
sun
coming
from
further
on
the
west
side,
which
did
penetrate
that
that
slot.
So
at
some
point
you
know,
during
during
the
summer,
solstice
of
course,
you're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
direct
sun
directly
from
above
and
then
in
the
morning
hours
and
evening
hours.
There's
potential
for
sunlight
coming
into
that
space
as
well.
A
And
then
my
last
question
is
for
cindy
is
the
inability
for
us
to
apply
our
bmr
to
the
incremental
units,
something
that
is
a
limitation
of
our
current
ordinance?
A
S
So
I
mean,
I
think
so
in
the
context
of
a
project
like
this,
so
basically
so
I
so
I
don't
know
incremental
non-incremental,
but
basically
replacement
units
you
have
to.
You
have
to
allow
the
the
local
ordnance
inclusionary
units
to
count
towards
them,
and
that
is
in
sb,
330.
S
Right
so
so,
basically,
the
replacement
units-
these
replacement
units
have
to
come
in
at
a
lower
income
level,
some
of
them
if
there
were
lower
income,
tenants,
households
in
those
units
or
if
based
on,
if
you
don't
know
the
the
income
levels
of
the
prior
tenants.
S
You
know
you,
you
determine,
based
on
the
percentage
of
low
income
versus
lower
income
versus
moderate
versus
above
moderate,
throughout
mountain
view,
to
determine
what
the
percentage
is
throughout
that
those
42
units,
and
so
you
would
apply
a
presumption
that
there'd
be
you
know.
S
Low
income
and
lower
income
units
occupied
by
you
know
those
level,
those
households,
and
so
so,
some
of
these
replacement
units
will
come
in
as
deed,
restricted,
low
income
units,
and
so
if
they
meet,
if
they
basically
meet
the
bmr
requirements,
you
have
to
count
them
towards
meeting
the
bmr
requirements.
You
can't
just
exempt
out
the
replacement
units
and
say
we're
applying
our
15
bmr
on
top
of
those
replacement
units.
S
H
Good,
thank
you
chair,
so
thank
you
sandy
and
thank
you.
You,
you
covered
two
of
my
questions
that
I
had
in
terms
of
the
feature
of
what
sp
330
does
in
this
situation,
which
I
again
and
then
the
other
question
was
about
the
the
bike
garage
situation.
I
mean
it
seems
kind
of.
H
I
don't
know
it
seems
too
much
to
be
asking
people
to
just
go
to
a
certain
spot
and
that's
it
to
get
your
bike,
especially
if
you
have
families
there,
because
there's
some
two-bedroom
apartments
there
that
I
I
saw
and
and
odds
are
you're
gonna
have
kids
that
are
gonna,
go
to
school
right
so
to
have
the
kids
go
over
there
to
a
certain
spot
away
from
where
they
actually
live,
seems
kind
of.
H
I
don't
know
this
doesn't
sit
well
with
me,
and
I
know
you
went
through
the
design
process
review
with
other
committees,
but
just
bringing
that
out
so
in
case
you
think
about
it.
From
that
perspective,
if
it
wasn't
brought
up,
it'd
be
nice
to
tackle
that
sometime
before
this
gets
finalized.
H
And
then
my
final
question
is
in
terms
of
procedure,
and
this
might
go
to
sandy
or
someone
else,
but
in
terms
of
when
we
do
outreaches
and
bear
with
me,
because
I'm
new
to
this
committee,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
this
works.
So
I
have
to
ask
right
when
there's
a
project
like
this
being
worked
on,
and
there
are
people
that
are
going
to
be
possibly
receiving
help
with
replacement
and
those
types
of
benefits
and
offers.
H
Is
it
a
typical
is
a
process
then
to
you
will
supervise
that
monitor
that
keep
track
of
that,
and
once
the
presentation
is
given
to
the
full
epc
we
are
in
on
the
no
as
to
when
it
happened,
and
all
that
or
do
you
do
that?
And
could
you
also
inform
the
epc
in
case
there
were
some
members
interested
more
than
others?
H
When
that
actually
happens
in
real
time,
would
we
be
able
to
get
those
updates
in
real
time
so
that
in
case
we
know
people
or
we
want
to
help
people
out
with
making
sure
they're
getting
these
benefits
and
notices
that
that's
happening,
not
that
we
don't
trust
a
developer,
in
this
case
no
judgment
there.
It's
just
I'm
wondering
how
this
process
works.
M
I
could
I
could
take
a
stab
at
that
how
the
process
currently
works
when
the
applicant
submits
their
formal
application
with
our
planning
department.
They
have
30
days
to
send
the
notice
of
intent
to
all
the
tenants
who
will
be
affected
by
the
project
and
the
notice
of
intent
gives
an
overview
of
the
tenant
relocation
benefits
it
lets.
You
know
how
you
can
income
qualify
and
it
also
gives
a
rough
timeline
of
the
project.
M
According
to
the
information
that
the
applicant
has
given
the
city.
So
that's
the
initial
contact
point.
M
We
definitely
have
the
information
within
housing
and
planning
has
access
to
it,
but
if
other
people
are
interested
in
that
information,
it's
available,
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
the
question,
and
then
there
are
also
periodic
update
letters
that
go
out
to
the
tenants
who
are
currently
living
there
and
who
have
vacated,
and
we
also,
if
it's
a
larger
project
with
this,
which
this
one
is,
we
we
do
hold
it
an
in-person
or
during
covent
a
zoom
community
meeting,
where
we
explain
all
the
benefits
and
answer
questions
and
also
explain
the
application
process
to
all
the
tenants.
M
So
we
can
definitely
clue
people
in
whenever
they
want
to
be
looped
into
the
process.
P
Yeah
so
kind
of
piggybacking
a
little
bit
off
of
commissioner
gutierrez's
question
just
now,
so
those
notices
of
intent.
You
know
like
personally
I've
you
know
seen
those
notices.
I've
worked
with
tenants
here
in
the
city
that
have,
you
know
been
not
only
served
with
those
notices,
but
you
know,
as
you
know,
what
I've
seen
in
my
experience,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
like
a
common
experience,
but
you
know
for
projects
like
this.
P
Sometimes
those
time
frames
that
get
placed
on
that
notice
of
intent
will
actually
have
varying
like
a
number
of
updates.
You
know
after
that
months
after
that
say
hey
by
the
way.
This
project
is
now
being
pushed
out
by
four
months
now
being
pushed
out
by
five
months,
and
so
you
know
I
know
personally.
P
I've
actually
worked
with
large
groups
of
tenants
who
actually
have
to
go
through
that
kind
of
like
anxiety
of
not
knowing
up
front
what
their
options
are
or
what
time
frames
they
have
to
execute
on
those.
So
just
based
on
you
know
the
last
kind
of
line
of
questioning,
I'm
kind
of
curious.
You
know,
because,
in
terms
of
the
spirit
of
of
kind
of
alleviating
as
much
like
attrition
for
for
residents,
as
you
know,
this
project
process
goes
through.
P
You
know
what,
if
any
options
would
be
available
to
give
people
a
heads
up
about
not
just
like
kind
of
the
and
I'm
sure
you
know
we
can
read
the
the
notice-
and
you
know
it
might
say
in
there,
in
some
like
city
or
official
type,
languaging,
that
this
is
like
subject
to
change
or
something
but
very
up
front.
You
know,
would
there
be
options
for
saying
something
like
hey?
You
know
projects
like
this,
you
guys
are
under
a
rent,
controlled
unit.
P
You
might
be
eligible
for
a
you
know,
replacement
unit
under
sp
330..
Does
our
current
notice
of
intent
provide
that
kind
of
detail
around
like
the
the?
Not
just
hey,
you're,
being
noticed,
here's
a
rough
timeline
for
this
project,
but
does
it
provide
any
kind
of
like
expansive?
P
You
know
range
of
option
type
language
that
informs
people
that
you
know.
Maybe
they
could
have
gotten
a
replacement
unit
if
they
had
stayed
and
weren't
months
down
the
line
unreachable,
because
we
can't
find
their
forwarding
address.
M
Yeah
sure
I
think,
essentially
that
is
the
intent
of
the
notice
of
intent.
We
it's
pretty
detailed,
it
sort
of
starts
off
by
saying
you
know.
M
M
M
M
We
do
have
the
caveat,
of
course,
that
the
timeline
can
change,
and
if
it
does,
we
will
send
an
update
letter
which
we
do
so
that
does
happen.
Projects
do
get
extended,
but
we
do
try
to
give
tenants
an
idea
of
what
the
plan
is
from
the
onset
of
the
project
to
alleviate
some
of
that.
That
stress
and
anxiety
that
comes
along
with
you
know,
displacement
in
that
way.
So
we
we
do
include
those
things
we
also
include,
especially
for
the
first
right
of
return
that
tenants
will
have
under
sb
330.
M
a
note
letting
them
know.
You
know
if
you
move
and
make
sure
that
you
keep
us
updated
with
your
most
current
boarding
address,
because
that's
how
we're
going
to
communicate
with
you
for
the
first
right
of
return
option
a
lot
of
the
times.
However,
because
we
work
with
a
relocation
consultant
who
is
wonderful
arws,
they
have
a
lot
of
people's
phone
numbers
and
email
addresses,
so
they
do
go
above
and
beyond
to
try
to
find
people's
addresses
when
maybe
we
have
out
of
out
of
date,
contact
information
for
them.
M
Okay
and
then
yeah,
the
the
you
know,
the
notice
that
they
they
are.
I
mean
they're,
like
three
pages
or
so
so,
there's
a
lot
of
information
to
digest,
which
is
why,
quickly
after
we
send
it,
we
schedule
the
community
meeting,
because
it
just
seems
to
be
easier
for
us
to
give
a
presentation
and
have
a
q
a
with
the
affected
house.
P
Okay
and
then,
as
far
as
the
developer
goes,
what
noticing
obligations
do
they
have
under
sp
330,
or
you
know
our
our
ordinances
to
to
like
inform
residents
beyond
just
like
what
we,
what
the
city
does
as
far
as
they're
noticing.
M
Written
in
the
in
the
tenant
relocation
assistance
ordinance
is
the
requirement
for
the
developer
to
work
with
the
city
to
send
out
the
notice
of
intent.
So
they
have
30
days
to
do
that
and
then
their
only
other
real
requirement,
as
explained
in
the
trail,
is
to
give
the
tenants
the
formal
termination
notice.
M
But
of
course
we
we
usually
work
very
closely
with
the
developers
to
make
sure
we
send
out
any
update
letters
with
them.
They
review
it
and
a
lot
of
times,
they'll
they'll
be
the
ones
to
sign
it
as
well.
P
Cool
and
then
last
question
I
swear
just
piggybacking
off
of
commissioner
chair
cranston's
last
question
around
the
bmr
side.
I
guess
might
be
a
question
for
sandy,
but
if
anyone
else
then
also
feel
free,
so
what
if
anything,
would
prevent
us
from?
Yes,
okay,
we
are
required
by
the
state,
to
you
know,
have
the
replacement
units
count
towards
concurrently
count
towards
our
inclusionary
requirements
and
the
state
requirement?
What,
if
anything,
would
prevent
us
from
putting
a
non-unit
non-replacement
unit
type
of
like
compensation
structure
in
place?
P
So,
for
example,
would
we
be
able
to
say
okay
well,
we're
gonna
require
a
certain
amount
of
you
know,
bmr
and
luffy's
or
or
maybe
we
call
it
something
else
that
isn't
like
bmr
and
makes
it
apparent
that
it's
like
you
know
for
that
purpose,
or
I
don't
know,
is
there
anything
that
would
or
it
could
be
park
ben
whatever
like?
Is
there
anything
that
would,
I
guess,
specific
to
housing?
P
I
guess
I
am
asking
specific
to
the
bmr
fund.
Are
we
able
to
require,
on
top
of
that,
like
some
kind
of
contribution
to
the
to
a
bmr
fund
of
sorts.
S
I
think
that's
a
little
too
hypothetical
for
me
to
answer
so
you
know
any
kind
of
fee
requires
some
sort
of
study
by
the
city,
so
I
would
need
a
more
concrete
proposal
to
give
you
a
thoughtful
response
to
that
question.
H
Yes,
last
one,
I'm
sorry,
I
looked
at
my
notes-
and
I
missed
this
completely
and
just
for
transparency's
sake,
and
my
learning
curve
here
so
bear
with
me
here-
everyone
when
we
all
go
through
these.
What,
when
the
city
helps
out
with
notifying
the
tenants
of
potential
relocation
and
and
what
benefits
there
exists
for
for
for
them
in
general,
we
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
clarify
so
that
everyone
is
on
the
same
page
and
so
that
I
know
as
well.
These
notices
aren't
just
in
english
right.
M
But
we
we
definitely
provide
translated
notices
when
we
know
they're
needed.
We
automatically
provide
translated
notices,
usually
in
mountain
view,
it's
in
english
and
spanish,
when
we
are
very
aware
that
the
property
in
question
has
a
high
population
of
maybe
tenants
who
speak
another
language
that
english
so
yeah.
We
we
proactively
look
into
that
and
provide
notices
that
are
translated.
A
Wait
vice
chair
yen,
you
had
your
kind
of
hand
up
earlier.
F
Thank
you
very
quick
question
and
this
is
for
staff
and
you
may
not
have
an
answer
right
off
the
top
of
your
heads,
but
I
recall
someone
mentioning
that,
because
we
had
so
many
units
that
needed
replacing
were
sort
of
in
this
pickle.
Now
is
this
atypical
for
the
properties
here
in
mountain
view
that
are
up
and
coming
and
maybe
have
submitted
applications
for
redevelopment,
or
is
this
something
we're
going
to
come
across
in
the
future
time
and
time
again.
R
This
is
michaela,
and
I
think
that
was
me
who
said
that
and
to
be
honest,
I
regretted
my
my
adjective
almost
immediately
but
I'll
share.
You
know
we
haven't
seen
that
many
projects
with
replacement
requirements
and
many
of
them
have
been
smaller,
like
nine
units
or
or
something
like
that.
However,
I
think
you
know
we
will
continue,
as
especially
as
the
city
sees
increasing
density,
to
see
things
more
of
of
this
size.
R
So
it's
not
particularly
atypical,
I
think
in
terms
of
what
we
expect,
but
we
just
haven't
had
that
many
and
when
we
do
see
replacement,
you
know
people
typically
who
are
identifying
these
smaller
projects.
You
know
where
we
might
see
a
requirement
of
nine
units
being
replaced,
they're,
increasing
density
by
a
significant
amount,
and
so
nine
units
doesn't
begin
to
cover
their
bmr
requirement,
for
example.
R
R
R
Q
A
Right
and
we
will
there's
no
other
questions,
then
next
section
is
public
comment
so
to
the
people
who
are
on
the
on
the
line.
Please
raise
your
hand
if
it
would
any
members
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
try
to
provide
a
comment
on
this
item.
A
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
start
on
in
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
6..
You
can
see
clerk
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up
so
give
it
a
second
to
see
folks
who
have
an
interest
and
please
go
ahead
and
indicate
their
interest.
I
see
one.
A
Moment
so,
let's
free
freitas,
we'll
do
three
minutes.
A
B
Yes,
I've
been
a
homeowner
there
for
nearly
20
years
and
have
noticed
quite
a
bit
of
increase
in
traffic
over
the
years.
It's
gotten
worse
and
worse,
and
my
biggest
concern
is
going
from
a
42
unit
to
371
units.
That's
quite
a
quite
an
increase
and
I'm
very
much
concerned
about
the
overpopulation,
the
amount
of
traffic
how
it's
going
to
affect
the
overwhelming
the
the
park
situation
and
let
alone
you
put
in
so
many
people
in
a
congested
area
like
that.
B
It's
you
know,
what's
gonna
happen
with
the
crime
rate,
for
example,
it's
just
it's.
It's
been
a
nice
community,
the
way
it
is,
and
it's
not
overwhelmed-
it's
been
getting
worse
as
far
as
traffic,
but
I
just
can
only
imagine,
with
an
increase
of
from
72
from
42
to
371
units,
that
traffic
and
and
the
way
of
life
is
not
gonna,
be
the
same
anymore,
and
that's
that's
my
biggest
concern.
I
The
current
unit
count
today
is
180
units.
A
O
A
For
clarifying
okay,
oh
it
looks
like
we
have
one
other
speaker
go
ahead.
O
My
only
comment,
my
only
question
is
you:
people
in
billy
will
see,
are
being
compensated
and
being
provided
filters,
and
things
like
that.
Are
you
doing
that
for
the
residents
on
muir
and
on
tiana
that
are
also
adjacent
to
the
property.
A
It
just
says
clarification
from
get
from
the
epc,
any
other
speakers
from
the
public.
A
Okay
and
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
commission,
so
this
is
where
we
do
deliberation
in
action,
so
feedback
from
commissioners
discussion
from
commissioners
on
the
project
questions
thoughts
wants
to
go
first,
yes,.
H
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
bikes.
I'd.
Ask
you
to
reconsider
just
looking
at
that,
take
into
consideration
that
you're,
not
just
gonna,
have
a
roommate
situation
or
just
single
people
living
there,
but
you,
you
might
have
families
as
well
and
to
have
a
parking
situation
for
the
bikes
to
be
more
readily
accessible
would
be
greatly
appreciated
in
that
regard,
because
it
as
it
stands
now.
I
just
don't
get
it.
H
H
G
Sure
I
I
guess
I
have
sort
of
a
grab
bag
of
of
comments
here
and
let
me
see
if
I
can
get
through
them,
quick
and
forgive
in
advance
the
pick
of
you
and
nature
of
some
of
these
things,
they're
they're
worth
what
you
paid
for
them,
the
activation
at
el
camino.
So
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
at
el
camino
the
bottom
floor,
most
everything
kind
of
to
the
left
of
the
front
door
as
you're
looking
from
the
street
towards
the
building
is
like
a
gym.
G
I
think,
and
the
the
thought
there
was
to
act
that
would
be
activation
at
ground
floor.
I
I'm
underwhelmed
with
that
as
a
as
a
means
of
activation,
there's
other
similar
style
buildings
farther
down
el
camino
towards
los
altos
that
have
gyms
on
the
first
floor
and
I
drive
by
them
all
the
time
as
I'm
going
around
town
and
they're,
usually
empty
they're,
not
very
activated,
there's
nothing
activating
about
an
empty
gym,
and
so
I
would
encourage
you.
G
You
know
you
don't
have
to
turn
it
into
a
starbucks
right,
but
it
is
a
mixed-use
corridor
and
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
kind
of
go
back
and
think.
Is
there
some
way
you
can
actually
get
more
activation
out
of
that
space
and
not
just
have
it
be
sort
of
an
empty
room
with
a
bunch
of
sort
of
depressing
empty
bicycles?
G
That's
one
thing
I
actually,
I
wanted
to
say
good
job
about
something,
because
I
know
these
meetings
often
feel
like
you're
kind
of
getting
beat
up
a
lot.
I'm
actually
excited
about
how
much
how
expanded
the
tree
canopy
is
going
to
be
by
the
time
it's
all
grown
out.
I
know
it
takes
25
years,
but
I
am
glad
to
see
any
and
all
efforts
to
plant
more
trees
in
there,
especially
trees
on
the
the
part
where
you're
not
going
to
be
doing
construction
if
you're
adding
trees
to
the
rest
of
the
site.
G
I
think
that
that's
fantastic,
so
praise
to
you
for
doing
that.
I
did
want
to
say-
and
I
hope
I'm
not
jumping
too
far
ahead
bill,
but
I
think
the
staff's
decision
to
opt
for
bmr
deeded
units
rather
than
cicero
units.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
G
I
do
I
remain
concerned
about
sort
of
what's
gonna,
how
do
you
make
it
right
for
the
folks
that
live
in
building
c,
the
the
building
that
is
15
20
feet
or
something
from
an
active
construction
site?
Because
that's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
dust?
It's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
noise.
It's
gonna
be
darker
and
yeah,
there's
some
good
things
that
come
with
it
too,
but
I
I
I
do
wanna
say
I
commend
I
and
I
mean
this
genuinely.
G
I
commend
the
developer
for
the
thought
that
went
into
the
tenant
relocation,
protections
and
everything
that
you
want
to
do
for
the
folks
that
are
going
to
have
to
leave,
and
I
I
that's
very
much
to
your
credit
and
I'm
always
glad
to
see
when
people
are
compassionate
and
things
like
that.
I
guess
I
feel
like.
I
would
like
to
see
a
little
bit
of
that
a
little
bit
more
of
that
compassion
aimed
for
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
living
20
feet
from
a
construction
site
for
two
years.
G
I've
done
that
before
and
it's
hell,
and
so
I
I
would
please
please
ask
you
to
go
back
and
think
about
what
else
you
can
do
to
make
it
better
for
the
folks
who
are
going
to
be
right
there,
because
offering
them
a
different
unit
somewhere
else
on
site.
If
it
happens
to
be
open,
that's
not
really
much
of
a
concession
at
all
and
for
somebody
who's
you
know
got
a.
Maybe
they
got
a
two-bedroom
unit
and
there
are
no
open
two-bedroom
units
on
site.
G
Are
they
supposed
to
move
into
a
smaller
unit?
Is
that
a
concession?
That's
not
a
great
concession,
and
maybe
they
have
to
have
quiet
because
they
work
from
home
right.
So
please
rethink
that.
I
think
that
that
could
be
a
lot
better
and
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
for
it
to
be
a
lot
better.
G
I
do
hope
I
would
love
to
see
in
the
future.
The
eir
at
least
address
briefly
why
there
was
a
significant
impact
with
air
quality
at
555,
but
not
here,
I'm
still
really
interested
in
that.
I
don't
understand
the
difference,
I'm
sure
there's
a
good
reason.
I
just
don't
know
what
it
is
and
I'd
love
to
know.
That
was
it
for
me,
but
in
general
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
project,
we're
getting
replacement
units.
We
do
need
more
units
of
all
type.
G
P
Yeah
so
like
I
guess
what
really
upsets
me
about
this
like
outcome,
not
project
but
like
the
outcome
is
that
out
of
those
42,
I
guess
units
doesn't
equate
to
households,
but
I'm
sure
most
of
them
were
being
occupied
at
the
time
the
application
was
submitted.
What
what's
what's
really
disappointing
to
me
about
this
outcome?
Is
that
only
four,
I
believe,
like
of
those
households,
are
actually
going
to
be
actually
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
of
their
rights.
Essentially
that
that's
just
really
upsetting
to
me.
You
know.
P
I
appreciate
that
commissioner
dempsey
brought
up
the
point
about
you
know
I
can
imagine
being
a
developer
coming
to
another
planning
commission
meeting
at
this
other
city
or
what
city
are
you
going
to
this
week?
Oh,
you
know
mountain
view.
Gonna
take
you
know
my
you
know
like
run
the
gauntlet,
and
then
you
know,
it'll
move
along
the
process
and
eventually
it'll
be
because
I've
heard,
like
I've
been
around
developers.
P
They
like
I've,
heard
that
kind
of
mentality,
and
it
just
upsets
me
to
just
like
participate
in
this
other
part
of
that
process.
P
When
the
majority
of
the
households
there
aren't
gonna,
be
here
anymore
and
it
doesn't
really
sound
or
feel
to
me,
you
know
just
because
I've
actually
been,
I
know,
like
you
know,
we
have
staff
that
work
hard,
I'm
sure,
like
developers
in
good
faith
like
follow
all
the
requirements
that
they're
supposed
to,
but
I've
actually
worked
with
people
that
are
getting
these
notices
and
I
watch
people
struggle
to
understand
them
even
after
trying
to
explain
it
to
them
over
and
over
and
over.
P
I
watch
them
get
the
updates
around
timelines.
I
just
watch
the
amount
of
sheer
confusion
that
people
are
experiencing
and
you
know
like
eventually
just
kind
of
give
up
and
leave
and
that's
actual
value
that
we're
losing
as
a
city.
You
know
we
have
like
diversity
that
is
really
important
to
us.
We
have
people
that
work
nearby,
people
who
have
experience
of
what
our
city
has
been
like
and
we
also
have
people.
P
I
know
people
in
that
in
in
that
development
who
you
know
like,
like
I,
a
woman
who
make
custom
stationery
with
her
like
mom
like,
and
I
don't
know
if
they
are
one
of
the
families
that
is
going
to
actually
be
able
to
stay
right,
and
so
I
feel
like
we
actually
do
lose
a
lot
of
value
when
our
current
residents,
who
are
the
people
we're
supposed
to
be
like
looking
out
for
just
kind
of
end
up
getting
for,
for
so
many
reasons,
pushed
out
of
the
community,
especially
you
know
our
low
income.
P
You
know
like
diverse
populations
disproportionately
going
through
that.
So,
like
I
think,
moving
forward,
I
know
like
I,
I
want
to
participate
in
any
effort
and
you
know
and
organize
any
effort
to
improve.
You
know
like
what
we
do
to
make
sure
that
people
really
are
aware
of
what
their
rights
are,
because
I
think,
as
as
ms
kennedy
noted,
I
mean
this
is
only
year
two
of
this
law
being
in
place,
and
so
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity.
P
I
think
we
ought
to
really
look
at
projects
like
this
assess.
You
know
what
did
what
went
well,
what
didn't
work?
Well,
how
are
we
defining
the
success
of
our
noticing
process
if,
like
5
out
of
42,
is
successful,
then
you
know
how
do
we
get
it
up
to
like
10
next
year?
How
do
we
get
it
up
to
20.?
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
we
ought
to
be
really
thinking
about.
P
You
know,
especially
us
as,
like
you
know
the
city
like
body
and
structures
that
are
there
to
like,
protect
our
current
residents
as
well,
and
so
like
yeah
people
here,
probably
know
me
as
someone
who
supports
housing
and
I'm
gonna
be
supporting
this.
Just
because,
like
we're
gonna
get
the
replacement
units,
we're
gonna
get
de-restricted
units
we're
going
to
get
more
apartments
out
of
it
as
well,
more
housing
units
overall,
so
it's
increasing
the
housing
stock,
but
the
housing
isn't
the
the
thing
of
value
in
itself
right.
P
It's
like
the
people
that
live
there.
It's
the
people
that
have
roots
here,
and
so
yes,
I'm
going
to
support
this,
but
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
you
know
we
can
as
a
city
and
the
city
structure,
think
about,
are
we
succeeding?
Are
we
partnering
well
enough
with
the
developers
and
creating
more
successful,
increasingly
successful
outcomes
that
enable
our
residents
to
make
use
of
their
rights
in
an
effective
manner?
F
Thank
you.
I'm
glad
that
commissioner
dempsey
had
pointed
out
the
activation
on
el
camino.
I
I
sort
of
agree
with
him
there.
I
I
really
do
think
that
the
gym
is
not
the
best
kind
of
activation,
especially
for
a
mixed-use
corridor
mixed
intensity
on
el
camino.
F
I
I
think
we
could
aim
for
better,
especially
with
all
those
people
there
living
there,
what
better
way
to
get
people
off
the
streets
and
out
of
the
cars.
If
you
could
have
something
there,
that
was
walkable
the
density,
we're
adding
a
bunch
and
the
density
is
right
there,
so
that
would
that
would
really
help
the
intent
of
walkable
areas.
I
understand
the
need
to
take
out
a
lot
of
the
the
trees,
because
the
project
couldn't
happen
at
all.
F
However,
I
did
notice
that
the
underground
parking
does
not
take
up
the
entire
footprint
of
both
of
the
buildings,
so
I
would
encourage
that
you
would
be
able
to
plant
some
of
the
larger
trees
trees
that
can
grow
in
ground
where
the
underground
parking
garage
is
not
below
grade.
If
you
can
do
that,
I'd
be
happy
with
that.
F
I
forgot
to
ask
earlier
if
there
was
ac,
I've
lived
through
construction,
it's
gotten
very
dusty
and
very
noisy,
and
in
the
summer,
despite
having
air
filters,
you
got
to
close
all
the
windows
and
doors
just
to
take
the
decibel
out
level
down
and
it
gets
very
stuffy
and
you
know
even
with
fans,
it's
tough.
F
So
if
there's
something
that
can
be
done,
if
you
have
no
ac
there
with
some
of
the
remaining
buildings
that
are
nearby
that
have
to
suffer
through
the
construction,
please
consider
that
I
think
I
guess
I'm
a
little
bit
disappointed
also,
as
commissioner
nunez
had
mentioned,
that
out
of
42
units
only
eight
applied
or
it
it's.
F
I
don't
know
where
the
disconnect
is,
but
it
feels
like
there
is-
and
I
know
that's
not
something
that's
specific
to
this
project,
but
I
would,
I
guess,
recommend
not
necessarily
developers
obviously
but
to
the
staff
in
the
city
like
what
can
we
do
to
help
bridge
that
disconnect,
and
that
could
be
a
conversation
for
later.
Obviously,
I
guess
the
biggest
sort
of
point
I
wanted
to
make-
and
this
is
not
probably
something
that
can
be
helped.
F
I'm
disappointed
that
our
city's
bmr
program,
in
this
case
the
intent
of
it,
isn't
getting
implemented.
Given
sp
330.,
we
are
replacing
those
42
units.
That
is
fantastic,
I'm
very
happy
for
that,
and
I
understand
the
policy
need
and
I'm
all
for
it,
but
the
intent
of
the
city's
bmr
was
to
to
get
15
and
then,
if
there
was
a
bonus
that
the
bonus
would
be
in
addition,
so
we're
we're
getting
extra
units
without
some
of
the
benefits.
F
F
F
I
would
move
forward
with
it.
I
wish
we
had
more
ability
to
determine
what
happened
with
all
these
points
that
I
made,
but
I
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
happen
so
in
general,
I'm
positive
about
the
project,
but
these
concerns
that
are
sort
of
larger
than
the
project
themselves.
M
M
Okay,
perfect
this
project
is
a
little
bit
unique
compared
to
some
of
our
other
tenant
relocation
projects
that
we
see
in
that
the
property.
M
From
our
analysis
of
what
the
rents
are
going
for,
what
type
of
income
you
need
to
be
able
to
afford
this
level
of
unit
is
higher
than
than
many
of
our
other
tenant
relocation
projects.
I
was
looking
at
the
rat
roll
just
before
this
meeting
and
there
are
some
units
I
think
a
two
bedroom
is
going
for
as
much
as
three
thousand
dollars,
which
is
significantly
larger
than
many
of
our
other
projects.
M
So
when
our
tenant
relocation
consultant
did
their
initial
estimate
about
how
many
tenant
households
they
thought,
might
even
qualify
income
qualified
to
receive
relocation
assistance,
it
was
much
lower
at
this
property
than
in
many
of
our
other
properties.
It
was
15
out
of
the
38
occupied
units,
so
I
think,
uniquely
in
this
project,
as
opposed
to
some
of
our
other
relocation
projects,
we
saw
a
larger
number
of
tenants
sort
of
self-selecting
out
of
the
application
process
when
they
realized
what
the
income
criteria
was.
D
Yeah
so,
overall,
I
guess
I
take
a
little
bit
of
a
different
perspective,
because
I've
seen
things
pre,
sp
330
in
post,
and
there
was
a
part
of
me
that
thought,
post
330.
D
We
would
very
rarely
see
situations
where
we
had
redevelopment
of
of
older
units
with
replacement
and
gaining
net
new
units
and
and
the
reason
that
I
like
this
project,
is
because
it's
it's
sort
of
a
hybrid
of
you
know,
there's
there's,
there's
existing
units
that
are
going
to
remain
that
are
probably
going
to
be
more
accessible
in
terms
of
rents
compared
to
the
newer
units,
some
of
those
well,
it
will
be
disruptive
to
to
folks
there
and
some
of
the
neighbors
I
mean
that's,
and
I
hope
that
the
and
I
encourage
the
applicant,
as
others
have
talked
about,
to
do
everything
they
can
to
mitigate
those
issues
like
that's.
D
Those
are
just
things
that
are
going
to
happen
in
the
natural
course
of
I
think
many
of
us
have
probably
lived
through
that
it's
not
fun,
but
it
happens
and
it's
part
of
it's
part
of
being
in
a
in
a
dynamic
and
growing
city,
and
you
know
there
as
long
as
steps
are
being
taken
to
mitigate
that
as
much
as
possible.
I
think
that's
just
one
of
the
negative
impacts
that
we're
we're
just
going
to
have
to
deal
with
as
a
city.
D
I
think
I
I
I
do
like
the
way
that
the
the
the
footprint
has
been
laid
out,
the
the
massing.
I
think
the
drc's
recommendations
are
really
good
and
I'm
glad
that
most
of
those
have
been
have
been
incorporated
already
and
it
looks
like
there
will
be
a
few
more,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
concerns
raised
and,
and
frankly,
I
share.
D
Some
of
them
are
their
policy
matters
and,
and
some
of
them
are
overridden
by
state
law,
and
I
think
we
probably
all
have
our
our
own
opinions
about
those
things.
But
I
think
I
think
overall,
given
the
given
the
regulatory
framework
that
this
applicant
has
been
given,
plus
the
the
the
footprint
of
the
parcel
and
the
the
layout
of
the
parcel
and
working
within
all
of
those
constraints.
D
I
think
overall
they've
done
a
good
job
of
putting
together
a
good
project,
so
I
plan
to
I
plan
to
support
it.
P
P
P
There
wasn't
like
an
initial
census,
taking
of
of
the
population
prior
to
any
kind
of
like
noticing
a
receipt
from
our
side
of
of
these,
like
applications
for
for
benefits
right
and
so
then
I
guess,
like
the
last
bit
of
insight
that
you
offered
around
the
the
kind
of
initial
analysis
being
conducted
by
assessing
what
the
going
or
asking
rents
where
for
this
location,
I'm
trying
to
reconcile
that
because-
and
maybe
you
can
kind
of
help
me
out
here.
P
The
reason
why
is
because
it
seems
to
me
like,
since
we
haven't
done
an
initial
census.
You
know
from
this
like
population
gotten
answers
from
them
about
their
like
demographic
type,
income.
You
know
like
ethnicity,
special
circumstance,
status,
etc,
and
if
we
are
conducting
our
analysis
by
the
asking
rents,
maybe
we're
getting
it
from
somewhere
like
zillow
or
maybe
the
the
landlord
is
providing
that
data
point
to
us.
P
How
do
we
then
know
that
maybe
people
weren't
just
like
spending
fifty
percent
of
their
income
to
pay
those
three
thousand
dollars
of
rent,
because
it's
so
important
for
them
to
live
in
the
city
that
they
would
put
themselves
in
a
situation
like
that.
I
guess
I'm
just
curious.
How
yeah,
if
you
could
just
help
me
reconcile
those
two,
I'm
hoping
andrea
can
help.
A
Make
sure
we're
focused
on
this
this
project?
I
I
fully
understand
the
concern
about.
You
know
how
people
are
impacted
here,
but
I
get
is
this.
Is
the
answer
to
this
question
kind
of
going
to
affect
your
view
on
the
project
overall?
Are
we
discussing
the
project?
Are
we
discussing
items
that
are
beyond
the
project
scope.
M
Sure
so
I
think
maybe
there's
a
few
things
I
can
offer
as
a
response
to
your
question.
M
M
In
that
way,
the
other
thing
to
remember
is
that
the
tenant
relocation
assistance
only
kicks
in
when
the
household
is
below
a
certain
ami
level,
so
the
special
circumstance
payment,
if
they're
above
that,
wouldn't
apply
to
them.
It
only
applies
to
those
people
who
qualify
for
the
tenant,
relocation,
assistance
and
the
way
the
the
process
is
currently
implemented
is
that
we
send
out
the
notice
of
intent
and
the
applications
and
the
households
apply,
and
let
us
know
what
their
income
is
and
what
their
special
circumstance
may
be.
M
So
you're
correct
in
that
our
relocation
consultant
does
an
initial
estimate
just
based
on
things
such
as
the
the
rent,
the
rental
rates
and
the
area
in
which
the
property
is
located
and
that's
how
they
do
their
initial
estimate
for
all
of
our
tenant
relocation
projects.
M
I
mean,
I
don't
think
they're
more
uniquely
more
well-off
than
people
in
mountain
view
or
in
general.
I
just
think
if
I'm
comparing
it
to
some
of
our
other
more
recent
tenant
relocation
projects,
the
the
asking
rate
for
some
of
the
units
is
about
double
and
the
neighborhoods
are,
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
differently
so
that
all
comes
into
play
when
the
consultant
is
making
their
initial
estimate
and
from
looking
at
what's
played
out
with
the
number
of
applications
and
the
lack
of
responsiveness.
M
We've
we've
gotten
from
our
our
update
letters
and
our
mailings.
It
might
make
sense
that
that
plays
a
piece
in
it.
P
A
The
reality
is
that,
when
we're
going
from
rent
control
units
to
bmr
units,
the
city
actually
gets
a
a
stronger,
more
long-term
guarantee
of
the
ability
of
those
units
to
be
available
to
people
with
lower
incomes.
So
I
am
I'm
not
necessarily
surprised
by
what
andrea
said
I
drove
around
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
very
expensive
park
cars
in
that
parking
lot.
A
A
Looking
at
what
that
is,
I
would
really
love
to
find
a
way
to
find
some
of
those
some
of
those
bike
and
storage
things
over
in
billy
building.
F
the
commissioner
gutierrez
said
it.
You
know
it's,
hopefully
we're
gonna
have
kids
living
here
and
do
I
want
my
kid
coming
in
going
into
the
park
into
the
underground
parking
garage
and
walking
through
a
parking
garage
to
get
over
to
my
apartment
and
building?
Yes,
I'm
not
I'm
not
going
to
be
super
excited
about
that.
So
I
guess
this
is
a.
A
I
don't
believe
this
is
necessary,
a
commission
condition
of
approval
phillip
and
miss
definitely,
but
I
do
think
there's
I'd.
Ask
that
there's
we
continue
to
work
with
the
applicant
to
look
at
at
least
find
some
option
for
an
ability,
for
maybe
people
with
families
with
children
to
have
something
in
building
f
as
an
option
and
not
have
to
go
all
the
way
over
into
building
g.
A
For
that
overall,
the
massing,
I'm
okay
with
some
of
the
amenities
like
the
courtyards
and
the
in
your
cool
little
landscaping
between
the
buildings,
I
think,
will
work.
I
am.
We
are
in
an
interesting
situation
where
the
next
item
on
our
list
is
diana
and
they're
talking
about
our
work
plans
for
next
year,
and
so
don't
be
surprised.
If
I
don't
bring
up
a
question
that
says
hey,
maybe
we
should
ask
council
to
look
at
adding
a
project
to
the
next
year's
work
plan
to
look
at.
A
Can
we
do
anything
to
address
the
fact
that
we
got
no
additional
bmr
units
beyond
the
42
in
this,
and
is
there
any
legal
way
for
sandy
to
say?
Yes,
we
could
do
this
rather
than
putting
it
on
put
on
the
spot,
so
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
we
should
add.
Maybe
a
recommend,
a
stat
to
counsel
that
there's
some
kind
of
a
study
session
to
to
look
at
that.
The
answer
may
be
no.
A
I
agree
that
the
laws
that
are
in
place
today
are
the
laws
that
are
in
place
today
and
I'm
the
first
one
to
tell
you,
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
not
gonna,
stick
the
developer,
something
that
doesn't
exist
today,
so
they've
followed
the
rules.
I
think
that
what's
faster
recommended
recommended
is
good
and
the
the
fitness
center
and
the.
Q
A
The
bikes
would
be
my
things
I
would
like
a
staff
to
work
on,
but
I'm
I'm
generally
supportive
of
the
project
and
and
with
you
know
with
those
I
don't
believe
those
these
two
items
are
things
that
will
affect
wouldn't
necessarily
change.
The
condition
of
approval
so
sounds
like
I'm
hearing
consensus
around
overall
in
a
project.
Am
I
getting
with
someone
interested
in
making
a
motion?
I
see
commissioner
clark.
D
Yeah
I'll
move,
the
the
the
two
staff
recommendations
is
printed
in
the
record
in
front
of.
S
Yeah,
if
it's
not
an
it's,
not
a
resolution
of
the
epc,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
read
so.
A
Okay,
all
right
and
then
do
you
have
another
comment,
commissioner.
Clark.
Okay,
all
right,
miss
freitas.
Can
you
take
the
role
please.
O
P
D
A
We
will
close
this
item
next
out
of
new
business.
Just
to
remind
everyone.
Item
6.1
was
pulled
from
the
agenda
due
to
it
being
a
redundant
item
with
the
council
action
taken
last
night.
So
we'll
move
on
to
item
6.2,
the
environmental
planning
commission
work
plan
for
22
to
23.,
we'll
start
with
our
presentation
from
diana
patrolli
principal
planner.
Welcome
diana.
T
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
This
is
a
new
business
item
and
just
a
brief
introduction.
Diana
pancholi
principal
planner,
with
the
city's
planning
division
and
tonight's
staff,
is
presenting
to
the
update
on
the
epc
work
plan
for
the
fiscal
year
2022
in
2023.
T
Just
a
brief
history.
On
this
back
in
june,
2021
council
adopted
strategic
roadmap
for
the
next
two
fiscal
years
and,
as
part
of
that,
you
know
in
order
to
implement
the
goals
that
were
adopted,
city
commissions
and
the
board
adopts
a
work
plan
to
implement
those
and
in
line
with
that
in
august,
2021
epc
adopted
fiscal
year,
2021
2022
and
2022
and
2023
work
plan
items.
T
So
at
this
point
of
time,
we
are
here
to
provide
you
with
an
update
on
what
these
items
have
been,
what
I've
been
working
on,
what
have
been
the
timeline?
What
have
been
the
project
updates
on
each
of
those
items,
the
exhibit
2
attached
to
the
staff
report,
provided
you
the
both
the
last
two
years,
fiscal
fiscal
year's
work
plan
items
and
exhibit
three
tiers
to
the
staff
report.
Actually,
provided
you
with
the
update
that
we
are
presenting
tonight,
it
should
be
noted
that
you
know
this
is
just
an
update.
T
We
have
not
modified
in
terms
of
adding
new
items
or
potential
suggestions
that
have
been
over
the
course
of
last
year
into
this,
because
that
will
be
done
based
on
the
council
direction
next
year,
we'll
be
bringing
it
back
for
epc's
suggestions,
additions
and
modifications,
one
important
modification
that
we
have
done
in
this:
it's
not
a
modification.
It's
just
an
update
that
the
moffat
precise
plan
item,
which
was
previously
showcased
in
august
2021,
and
the
downtown
precise
plan
update
phase
2
project,
which
was
also
shown
in
last
year's
update.
T
They
have
been
removed
from
the
work
plan
right
now
because,
based
on
the
schedule
of
those
projects,
epc
will
not
be
working
on
any
items
related
to
those
two
agenda
items,
so
those
have
been
removed
other
than
that
staff
is
just
presenting
the
updates
on
each
of
these
items.
Right
now
and
now
that
is
the
brief
discussion
on
on
this
item.
As
a
next
step,
you
know
once
this
has
been
reviewed
by
etc.
Tonight
we'll
be
providing
this
as
an
input
for
council
review
at
the
september
13th
city
council
meeting.
T
So
there
are
two
phases
to
it.
Right
now
we
are
working
on
the
downtown
precise
plan
phase,
one
item
which
council
is
going
to
be
adopting
we'll
be
going
for
an
adoption
hearing
in
q4
there
later
this
year,
but
there's
also
a
downtown
precise
plan
phase
two
update,
which
is
a
bigger
overhaul
of
the
precise
plan
sections
and
that
has
been
pushed
out
and
that's
why
that
was
earlier
shown
in
last
year's
update
and
it
has.
L
T
H
Thank
you,
sir.
So
one
quick
question
here:
it's
under
the
excuse
me
fiscal
year,
22
23,
work
items
that
be
point
number
two
apologies
point
number
three
review
and
propose
revisions
to
the
r3
zone,
standards
that
consider
form-based
zoning
incentivizing,
stacked
flats
and
updated
roadhouse
guidelines.
Question
goes
to
outreach.
H
The
timeline
there
of
q321
through
q1
2023,
based
on
the
amount
of
participants
or,
like
thereof
that
have
been
taking
place
in
the
most
recent
meetings
or
in
fact,
almost
all
of
them
from
renters
in
general,
or
in
particular
I
should
say.
Is
there
eric
a
timeline
in
your
in
in
from
a
team's
perspective
as
to
when
you
would
start
doing
further
outreach
to
those
types
of
communities
as
well?
H
N
I
I
don't
have
anything
specific,
certainly
over
the
remainder
of
the
year,
we
will
put
together
a
further
outreach
plan
based
on
our
assessment
of
who
has
kind
of
who
we've
missed
from
the
from
the
workshops
we've
held
so
far,
but
no
no
concrete
timeline
for
that
it'll
be
over
the
remainder
of
the
year.
P
Yeah,
so
as
far
as
the
work
plan,
I
remember,
I
think
it
was
the
last
meeting.
I
know
myself.
I
think,
commissioner,
a
couple
commissioners
or
most
of
us
actually
expressed
some
concern
about
like
the
drought,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
wondering
if
we're
able
to
you
know,
since
we
all
kind
of
seem
to
express
some
concern
about
the
environmental
aspect
of
development,
you
know,
are
we
able
to
recommend
some
form
of
like
expansion
to
letter
d?
P
Maybe
like
amendments
you
know
focusing
on
you
know
ways
you
know
parts
of
the
code
that
enable
you
greater
like
resource
efficiency,
inclusive
of
like
water
energy.
Is
that
something
we're
able
to
potentially
recommend.
T
Myself,
I
think,
at
this
point
of
time
we
are
not
discussing
about
potential
changes
to
the
workplace
item.
This
is
purely
just
limited
to
this
is
the
update
on
what
we
have
been
doing
on
all
the
items
you
have
seen
in
the
past.
We
will
be
returning
back.
Oh
eric,
you
want
to
say
something.
N
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
add
your
you're
right.
I
mean
that
the
anything
that
the
epc
is
interested
in
adding
you
know.
If
you
have
four
votes
to
to
forward
something
up
to
the
city
council,
we
would
have
to
prepare
a
staff
assessment
of
staff
capacity
to
to
add
that
also
that
those
actions
would
ultimately
have
to
be
adopted
by
council,
so
they'd
have
to
be
included
in
a
council
work
plan
themselves.
N
I
would
also
add
that
the
minor
cleanup
amendments
of
codes
and
precise
plans,
the
purpose
of
those,
is
really
not
to
adopt
new
policy.
That
would
require
a
now
a
significant
analysis
or
discretion
or
public
input.
The
purpose
of
those
is
really
to
find
issues
where
there's
some
conflict
with
state
law
or
some.
You
know
minor
inconsistency
that
makes
it
difficult
to
implement
a
code
or
standard,
or
something
like
that.
So
that's
really.
The
purpose
of
that.
N
I
just
want
to
set
that
expectation,
but
yeah
diana's,
correct
the
the
goal
of
this
is
to
provide
the
update
to
the
to
the
epc
edc
is
with
you
know,
certainly
allowed
to
make
whatever
comments
they
like
and
find.
Four
votes
on
whatever,
but
the
intent
is
to
get
the
update
to
you.
Okay,.
P
Cool,
well,
maybe
if
there's
in
a
pr
or
if
this
is
like
the
most
appropriate
time,
then
maybe
eric
you
can
tell
me,
but
if
there
was
another
opportunity
in
the
near
future,
that
would
be
appropriate
for
recommending
or
for
tossing
out
there
to
the
commission.
P
You
know
you
know,
given
our
interest
in
the
drought
like
you
know
that
we
could
ask
council,
obviously
knowing
that
they're
very
well
within
the
rights
to
just
say
like
no
totally
fine,
but
I
think
that,
given
the
ongoing
drought
situation,
there
is
a
lot
of
interest
in
you
know
what
we
can
do
to
become
increasingly
more
efficient
in
that
area.
So
I
guess
eric
would.
N
Yeah
I
mean
so
so
in
probably
early
spring
of
2023
there'll
be
a
new
kind
of
council
goal
setting
process
and
that's
really
the
best
opportunity
to
to
tee
up
these
recommendations.
N
A
So
I'll
bring
up
what
I
mentioned
before.
I
don't
know
that
I
wouldn't
necessarily
it
would
be
a
question
for
council
to
say
we
have
seen
a
situation
where
the
below
market
rate
ordinance
didn't
provide
incremental
bmr
beyond
the
beyond
the
replacement
units
and
whether
council,
it's
a
kind
of
a
question
for
council.
A
You
know
that
would
be
my
request
to
pass
along
to
council
as
a
question.
Is
this
and
they'll
see
this
project
here
in
what
was
it
in
about
a
month?
So
they'll
get
to
have
the
same
kind
of
analysis.
So
are
there
other
people
who
would
support
that?
Passing
that
question
onto
council
christian
gutierrez.
H
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir,
so
so
so
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
here,
chairman
creston,
so
in
this
in
in
terms
of
this
process
eric
or
chair,
is
there
a
need
for
a
second
or
do
you
just
have
a
show
support
of
your
position
by
raising
our
hands
or
how
would
this
work.
A
H
Good
so
then,
I
wouldn't
express
much
support
for
this,
this
this
to
be
raised
to
the
city
council
for
their
awareness,
so
they're,
so
that
we're
acting
in
our
oversight
capacity
to
let
them
know
hey.
We
found
something
that
you
should
look
at
and
then
we
think
action
should
be
taken
from
your
end
and
and
we're
here
to
help
you
out
from
with
that
perspective.
So.
S
Can
I
ask
a
question
a
process
question
the
staff?
Was
this
an
item
that
you
were
going
to
transmit
to
city
council?
I
thought
this
was
just
review
of
the
work
plan.
The
epc's
work
plan
that
stems
from
the
city
council's
work
plan,
so
it
was
review.
It
wasn't
an
action
item.
Okay,
so
please
clarify
if
I'm
incorrect.
N
Yeah,
this
is
a
this
is
going
to
be
transmitted
to
city
council.
They
review
all
the
advisory
body
work
plans
on
september
13th.
S
N
The
we
so
the.
N
The
work
plan
that
the
epc
works
off
of
because
their
actions
are
final
actions
by
the
city
council.
The
work
plan
that
the
the
epc
works
off
of
is
the
city
council
strategic
roadmap,
so
we're
presenting
that
to
the
epc
as
an
update
based
on
the
the
20
21
to
2023
strategic
roadmap.
N
In
addition,
we
can
transmit
additional
comments
from
the
epc
if
they
so
desire
to
the
city
council,
and
it
would
ultimately
be
up
to
the
city
council
to
you
know,
modify
the
epc's
work
plan
consistent
with
those
comments
or
not.
H
D
Who's
going
to
make
a
friendly
suggestion
for
how
we
might
handle
this,
so
the
context
here
is,
I
think
the
project
we
just
saw
is
probably
substantially
out
of
the
norm
of
what
we
will
normally
see
and
I
think
adding
something
to
a
work
plan
is
like
wow
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
of
these.
We
need
to
be
very
worried
about
it
as
opposed
to
hey.
D
D
What
occurred
in
this
case,
as
perhaps
an
unintended
consequence
of
certain
things
and
worth
keeping
an
eye
on
for
the
future.
I
think
modifying
a
work
plan.
That's
already
been
said,
is
a
very
big
deal
and
especially
modifying
it
when
we're
going
through
a
housing
helmet
process,
with
a
suggestion
that
might
increase
the
cost
of
and
barriers
to,
building
housing
in
the
city
is
probably,
in
my
personal
opinion,
not
it's
not
something
I
would
support.
D
I
I
could
support
transmitting
comments
as
part
of
the
item
that
we
chose
and
I
can
bring
that
up
under
commissioner
comments
and
maybe
see
if
others,
if
from
a
process
perspective
staff,
would
prefer
it
be
done
that
way,
but
in
terms
of
actually
suggesting
something
for
a
work
plan
amendment,
I
don't
think
that
would
be
appropriate.
A
We
don't
know
at
this
point
whether
this
is
something
we're
going
to
see
in
the
future,
but
we
want
to
flag
it
to
say
if
you
believe
this
is
something
that
is
of
high
enough
concern,
then
perhaps
you
want
to
you
might
want
to
consider
this
as
a
work
plan
item,
I'm
not,
they
may
say
no,
they
may
say
yes,
that's
what
I
was.
I'm
not
specifically
proposing
open
up
the
bmr
ordinance
to
assess
this
project.
This
one
that's
got.
D
It
I
just
totally
make
sense
it's
just
that
I,
I
would
not
be
comfortable
transmitting
this
part
of
this
specific
item.
F
Oh,
I
I
would
be
comfortable
doing
as
you
both
have
said.
I
I
think
you're
actually
saying
kind
of
the
same
thing,
which
is
great.
I
do
think,
since
we
just
saw
this
project
they'll
be
seeing
it
in
a
month
and
that
we
note
just
what
you
had
said,
chair
cranston,
which
is
we
saw
this.
F
It
concerns
us
that
it
might
happen
again.
I
think
the
feedback
from
andrea
was
it
said
that
you
know
she
can't
say
it
won't
happen
or
if
it's
typical,
so
it's
a
possibility
that
we
will
have
this
again
and
they
can
consider.
P
So
yeah,
my
understanding
from
staff
as
part
of
this
discussion
item
was
that
a
more
appropriate
time
to
make
requests
like
this
would
be
during
the
goal
setting.
If
not,
then
I
think
what
commissioner
clark
was
mentioning
too
in
terms
of
maybe
just
not.
This
item
would
probably
be
something
more.
I
don't
wanna
use
the
word
appropriate
because
it
only
sounds
like
the
opposite
would
be
inappropriate,
but
just
more
like
relevant.
I
guess,
and
I
mean,
if
that's
the
case
then
at
that
point.
P
If
we
do
get
to
your
recommendation
or
your
suggestion
shortcuts,
then
I
would
definitely
bring
back
up
the
same
for
the
you
know,
like
drought
suggestion
that
I
was
speaking
about
earlier
at
that
time,.
G
So
I'm
I'm
finding
myself
kind
of
nodding
in
agreement
with
with
chris.
I
the
this
question.
The
question
that
you
identified
chairman
is
a
good
one
and
a
right
one
in
it,
and
I
think
it's
totally
appropriate
to
flag
it
for
council
and
say
like
hey.
There
may
be
something
more
here
totally
agree
with
that.
I
guess
I'd
rather
see
that
wrapped
into
the
you
know
the
the
report
with
the
comments
that
get
sent
to
council
as
a
result
of
of
kind
of
the
earlier
item.
G
G
As
an
informal
comment
appended
to
the
discussion
about
the
the
development
we
just
had.
A
So
I
guess
eric
and
sandy
can
we
understand
what
commissioner
clark
is
suggesting
here
that
it's
open
in
the
section
seven
here,
but
I'm
also
hearing
kind
of
appending
it
to
the
discussion
I
already
have,
which
has
been
closed
and
voted
on.
So
that's
that's
what
I'm
I
I'm
okay
with
taking
commissioner
clark's
approach,
but
I
I
don't
or-
and
attaching
it
somehow
attaching
to
it
to
an
item
that
we've
already
closed
doesn't
seem
quite
right
to
me.
A
S
So
it's
it's
a
bit
awkward.
I
think
to
to
append
it
to
the
to
the
item
that
we've
already
handled.
A
A
N
Well,
I
think
in
that
case
we
wouldn't
really
necessarily
have
a
mechanism
to
forward
it
to
council.
You
know
it
would
be
something
that
staff
would
note
and-
and
that
would
be
you
know
any-
that
would
kind
of
be
be
where
it
would
where
it
would
go.
N
So
I
I
don't
think
just
to
confirm
what
I
heard
you
say
sandy.
Obviously
the
council
couldn't
consider
these
modifications
to
bmr
through
the
870
el
camino
project,
but
even
this
comment
that
in
the
future
council
should
look
at
this
can't
also
be
considered,
can't
also
be
provided
as
a
comment
after
the
hearing
is
closed.
N
S
So
that
item
has
been
closed,
and
so
it
would
have
to
be
a
separate
memo
from
the
epc
on
this
specific
issue
and
you
could
be
tied
in
that.
It
came
up
during
that
discussion
or
came
to
the
epc's
attention
in
relation
to
a
certain
project,
but
it
won't
be
transmitted
for
the
item.
That's
going
before
council
the
project
it
and
the
council
will
not
be
able
to
discuss
it
in
any
substantive
sense
because
it
will
not
be
noticed.
The
hearing
notice
will
not
include
that.
T
And
if
I
may
suggest
something
in
here,
you
know
if
you
look
at
closely
the
2022-2023
plan
work
plan,
there
are
items
which
actually
go
well
into
2024..
T
T
I
think
it
would
be
more
appropriate
in
terms
of
process
perspective,
that
early
next
year,
when
council
will
reassess
the
goals,
and
at
that
point
of
time
you
know
once
we
are
more
closer
to
the
end
of
fiscal
year.
2023
we
bring
the
work
plan
items
back.
We
say
what
the
status
of
the
current
items
are.
T
We
do
suggest
a
few
items
based
on
all
these
suggestions
that
we
have
been
gathering
over
all
the
development
review
permits
that
we
bring
to
epc
and
council
and
prioritize
some
of
the
items
and
bring
it
for
epc
discussion
and
see.
You
know
if
there
are
any
if
there
is
any
majority
on
adding
those
items
or
recommending
those
items
in
the
work
plan.
A
I
understand
commissioner
yeah
sorry
gutierrez.
A
H
Good,
it's
all
good.
I've
been
called
worse.
Believe
me,
so
I
see
what
you're
saying
deanna,
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
It's
a
good
workaround
and
I
think
I
understand
now
the
difference
of
subtlety
between
what
commissioner
cranston
was
saying.
The
commissioner
clark
in
terms
of
the
process
involved
and
the
etiquette,
so
I'm
thinking
there
might
be
two
other
options
just
in
general
one.
H
We
could
possibly
bring
it
back
as
a
new
item
for
discussion
and
approval
at
the
next
session,
the
next
meeting
and
relay
that
on
to
city
council,
if
there's
a
way
to
awardsmith
that
and
bring
that
into
a
friendly
observation,
fine
or
two.
Since
we
are
commissioners,
I
I
don't
think
that
there's
a
I
don't
think,
there's
a
there's,
a
formal.
G
Yeah,
I
would
simply
point
out-
I
think
members
of
the
council
actually
watch
this
because
of
the
public
hearing,
and
so
I
would
fully
expect
that
they're
going
to
be
aware
of
this,
you
know
either
tonight
or
or
later
this
week.
I
did
want
to
say
I
I
retract
my
earlier
suggestion:
sandy's
100
right,
you
don't
append
things
after
emotions
already
been
voted
on.
That
was
just
stupid
on
my
part.
G
I'd
completely
take
that
back
and
apologize,
and
I
think
I
would
instead
say
I
feel,
like
we're
kind
of
over
engineering
this
a
little
bit
if
the
point
was
simply
to
make
council
aware
that
this
is
an
interesting
question,
I
think
we've
perhaps
succeeded,
and
I
would
just
ask
you
know:
council
just
tell
us
the
simplest
easiest,
most
informal
way
to
feel
like
this
is
done.
Let's
put
this
to
bed
and
and
move
on,
because
we've
spent
too
much
time
on
this.
A
A
I
just
look
at
it
and
say
by
the
time
it
gets
to
a
set
of
goals
you're
talking
about
june
of
next
year,
and
then
you've
got
a
work
plan
that
takes
probably
a
year
to
get
it
done
so
addressing
this
is
like
two
years
from
now.
If
we
wait
until
next
year,
so
hopefully
there
are,
there
are
accounts.
There
are
city
council
members
watching
this
I'd,
be.
I
guess,
I'm
more
open
to
commissioner
clark
suggesting
that
we
just
raise
this
as
hey.
This
is
something
interesting
you
might
want
to
go.
A
Take
a
look
at
and
let
them
decide.
I
am.
I
am
curious
because
the
the
script
that
I
have
says
we
actually
have
to
vote
on
and
approve
this
plan.
So
then
this
that
does
seem
to
be
an
inconsistency,
at
least
in
the
in
the
script,
so
that
we
actually
have
to
that.
We
have
to
up,
accept
and
update
the
work
plan
as
part
of
this.
A
So
maybe
that's
just
a
question
between
you
and
eric
as
to
what
we're
actually
supposed
to
do
in
these
going
forward,
because
this
sir
reads
like
we
get
a
vote.
Okay
and
and
ms
greatest
is
going
to
actually
take
a
roll
call
on
this
item.
So
what
are
we
doing
as
a
roll
call?
If
we're
not
voting
on
it?.
N
A
But
I
do
have
a
I
kind
of
moved
past
questions
into
deliberation
here.
Are
there
any
people
on
the
line
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this?
A
There's
still
two
users
listed
one
to
city
chambers
and
one
that's
calling
user
one.
Would
anybody
like
to
speak
on
this
topic
make
sure
we
get
public
honor
before
we
move
anything
further?
They
seem
to
have
skipped
over
that.
D
Yeah,
so
I
will
move
that
we
accept
the
the
epc
work
plan
for
fiscal
year.
2022
2023
is
presented
and
forwarded
on
to
the
city
council
for
review.
H
O
P
A
N
Great
thank
you
chair.
So,
as
we've
been
saying
all
night
last
night
august
16th,
the
city
council
adopted
a
resolution
for
ab361
that
all
the
legislative
bodies
will
continue
to
hold
virtual
meetings
through
september
15th.
N
Additionally,
council
gave
direction
that
the
city
should
follow
the
county's
lead
in
determining
when
to
return
to
in-person
meetings,
so
the
board
of
supervisors
will
determine
if
it's
safe
to
return
to
in-person
meetings.
The
city
would
follow
this
direction,
so
council
is
set
to
consider
adopting
another
resolution
to
continue
virtual
meetings.
At
its
september,
13th
meeting
updates
on
future
items
for
epc
the
middlefield
park.
Master
plan
has
been
moved
out
to
an
october
meeting.
N
This
means
that
there
are
actually
no
items
scheduled
for
september
7th
because
we
were
holding
that
date
for
the
middle
field
park
master
plan,
but
we
do
have
several
items
on
september,
21st,
downtown
precise
plan
phase,
one
updates
for
public
hearing
and
then
a
condo
project
on
san
antonio
road.
Those
are
tentatively
scheduled
at
this
time.
E
N
Yeah,
I
don't
have
that
information
now,
but
I'll
definitely
keep
the
commission
updated,
as
I
find
out
more.
D
A
You
know
what
ends
up
happening
is
because
you
have
you
have
to
watch
zoom
and
you
have
to
watch
the
room.
Everybody
was
sitting
at
the
diaz
with
their
nose
in
the
laptop,
and
so
even
though
they
were
in
the
room,
it
was
like
still
doing
a
zoom.
They
just
happened
to
be
sitting
in
the
same
place.
It
didn't
so
at
least
that
particular
member
of
council
was
unimpressed
with
the
the
hybrid
approach
to
things.
A
So
it
will.
I-
and
I
can
imagine
exactly
that
happening.
I
can
be
hard
to
look
around
and
while
keeping
an
eye
on
particularly
running
a
meeting
with
with
zoom
and
people
in
the
room,
so
yeah,
hopefully,
supervisors
have
more
wisdom
than
I
do
on
this
so
and
so
eric.
I
guess
you,
the
last
of
the
the
first
round
of
sessions,
is
done
on
r3.
N
Yes,
that's
right.
We
had
our
last
r3
workshop
of
the
six
that
we're
doing
to
each
of
the
the
neighborhoods.
We
had
that
last
night.
A
A
Right
unless
there's
any
other
comments
all
right,
then
we
will
move
to
item
number
eight,
which
is
adjournment
and
we
will
close
the
regularly
scheduled
epc
meeting
at
9,
33
pm,
and
our
next
meeting
will
be
september.
21St,
I
believe,
is
what
I
heard
so.