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From YouTube: 11-18-2020: Environmental Planning Commission
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Live teleconference meeting of the Mountain View Environmental Planning Commission scheduled for 7:00 PM on Wednesday, November 18, 2020.
A
It
is
november
18
2020
and
I
will
call
the
meeting
of
mountain
view's
environmental
planning
commission
to
order
at
7
03
p.m.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
state
of
california
executive
order.
N2920
dated
march
17
2020.,
all
members
of
the
epc
are
participating
in
this
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
observe
the
meeting
live,
may
do
so
at
mountainview.legistar.com
on
youtube
at
mountainview.gov,
slash
youtube
and
on
comcast
channel
26..
A
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noted
on
the
meeting
and
the
members
of
the
public
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provide
oral
public
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public
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underscore
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messages
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5
pm
today
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forwarded.
The
epc
all
votes
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taken
by
roll
call
vote.
Now
I
will
ask
the
epc
clerk
ms
haran,
to
proceed
with
the
roll
call.
C
A
All
right
so
looks
like
we
have
a
full
house
tonight.
Let's
see,
I
will
make
an
announcement
at
this
point,
a
public
hearing
regarding
the
density
bonus
code.
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noticed
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this
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discussed
tonight.
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new
date
will
be
sent
once
the
item
is
rescheduled.
A
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Okay,
I
don't
see
anybody
raising
his
hand
all
right,
then,
let's
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right,
okay!
So
is
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commissioner
that
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A
B
C
A
All
right
so
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six
zero
one
with
one
abstention
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yin,
who
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attendance
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right,
so
I'll
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move
on
to
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public.
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is
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portion
of
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meeting
which
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reserved
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persons
wishing
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epc
on
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matter
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on
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agenda.
A
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
this
section.
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law
prohibits
the
commission
from
acting
on
any
non-agenda
items.
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member
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A
A
Our
main
item
for
the
evening,
a
study
session
on
an
office
and
retail
development
at
365
to
405
san
antonio
road
and
25.85
to
2595
california
street.
But
before
we
move
on
vice
chair,
cranston,
has
an
announcement.
A
F
F
F
F
Malone
gaire
received
authorization
from
council
to
submit
a
project
with
an
additional
150
000
square
feet
of
transfer
development
rights
from
the
los
altos
school
district
tdr
program
on
this
site.
The
project
requires
a
precise
plan
amendment
to
remove
the
office
cap
for
this
area.
However,
the
office
area
for
the
overall
precise
plan
would
not
be
exceeded.
The
specifics
are
laid
out
in
the
staff
report.
F
F
When
the
project
received
authorization,
the
council
specifically
asked
it
to
be
brought
to
the
study
session
to
discuss
design
and
other
potential
issues.
This
project
is
therefore
being
brought
to
edc
and
council
early
in
the
planning
permit
review
process
through
the
discussion
tonight.
It's
important
to
note
that
technical
and
environmental
review
is
still
underway.
F
There
are
several
project
design
topics
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
I
will
briefly
touch
on
each
of
them.
The
project
proposes
a
landscape
on
either
side
of
the
public
walkways
and
lining
the
outdoor
pedestrian
areas.
What
landscape
is
always
encouraged.
Drc
recommends
special
consideration,
be
given
to
how
the
landscape
impacts
pedestrian
activity,
especially
right
here
in
this
corner
too
many
planter
boxes
can
cause
the
area
to
be
a
walkway
instead
of
an
inviting
plaza,
but
enough
space
and
distinctive
landscape
features
should
be
incorporated.
F
The
project
is
predominantly
plaid
in
limestone
and
glass,
while
simplified
material
pallets
are
traditional.
There
should
be
enough
detail
and
variation
to
create
interest.
Drc
recommends
these
two
areas
be
studied
to
provide
more
detail
to
the
ground
floor
area
and
break
up
the
uninterrupted
materials
in
the
upper
floors.
F
A
lot
of
design
consideration
was
given
to
the
phase
2
development
in
separating
the
structures
and
avoiding
a
tunnel
effect
between
buildings.
The
separation
between
structures
is
less
than
what
was
generally
constructed
in
phase
two
due
to
the
tdrs.
Typical
techniques
for
reducing
the
massing
of
upper
floors
are
not
possible.
F
F
This
corner
is
a
gateway
to
the
san
antonio
area
and
should
be
prominent,
interesting
and
inviting,
while
the
design
is
on
the
right
track.
We
recommend
studying
ways
to
emphasize
the
vertical
detailing
to
create
prominence
and
add
interest
in
the
ground
floor
through
art,
like
installation,
either
on
the
building
or
in
the
plaza.
F
This
large
covered
briefly
creates
a
protected
area
for
gathering
area
for
the
public,
with
the
standalone
retail
located
right
here
in
the
picture
within
it.
It
has
the
potential
to
be
a
really
unique
area.
Drc
recommends
this
tall
vertical
massing
in
red
removed
and
minimized
to
better
showcase
the
area
and
make
it
comfortable
for
pedestrians.
F
F
B
E
I
Go
ahead
david,
great
perfect
good
evening,
my
name
is
dave
geyser,
I'm
the
managing
director
of
malone
guyer
partners.
I
manage
our
design
and
construction
effort.
Portfolio-Wide
we're
excited
to
present
you
this
evening.
The
last
phase
of
the
village
of
san
antonio
I've
been
involved
with
this
project
since
we
bought
the
sears
and
tire
center
from
the
white
family
back
in
2009.
I
Since
then,
we've
completed
nearly
3000
square
feet
of
retail
theater
and
restaurant
space
330
residential
units,
above
some
of
that
retail,
about
400
000
square
feet
of
office
space
and,
of
course,
the
167
room.
Hyatt
centric
hotel,
including
that
is
almost
two
acres
of
open
space
with
grass
field
and
wildly
successful
dog
park.
I
We've
widened
the
san
antonio
road
to
complete
the
much
needed
bicycle
length
between
california,
el
camino,
real
in
phase
two
we've
added
central
plaza
to
support
the
office
in
retail
at
the
center
of
that
project,
with
pop-tart
fountains,
outdoor
dining
and
gathering
space.
I
So
now
we
look
to
complete
the
project
with
the
anchor
to
the
much
the
very
busy
and
well
trafficked
corner
of
san
antonio
road
in
california,
with
a
new
office
and
retail
building.
I
This
is
going
to
actively
help
activate
again
that
busy
intersection
help
anchor
our
plaza
that
sees
the
entrances
to
the
other
office
buildings,
as
well
as
the
retail
on
the
ground
floor
and
the
theater
by
the
shares
of
promenade.
Since
our
gatekeeper
approval
last
december,
which
is
a
much
smaller
project
than
what
we
originally
proposed.
I
At
the
request
of
the
city
council,
we've
been
working
with
planning
staff
and
the
design
review
committee
to
further
refine
the
project
and
and
with
us
tonight,
you're
going
to
hear
from
denzel
architects,
architect
of
the
project,
daryl
fulbright
and
david
harrison.
Our
landscape,
architects,
who've
been
the
landscape
architect
since
the
inception
of
the
of
our
village
project,
keith,
mittermeier
and
bryce
your
body,
our
civil
engineer,
somas
david
brochie's
on
the
line
and
then
also
from
malone
guyer.
We
have
andy
neff
our
in-house
architect
and
also
our
leasing
project
manager.
G
G
G
One
thing
that
we
wanted
to
to
really
emphasize
is
throughout
the
design
process
is
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
consistent
language
consistent,
massing
and
as
well
as
consistent
ground
floor
planning
just
to
emphasize
the
design.
That's
already
been
established
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
the
the
scale
of
the
project
is
really
fits
into
the
existing
surrounding
sites.
G
G
So
then,
another
important
thing
was
to
push
back
some
of
the
glazing
along
the
public
realm,
so
that
we
can
bring
that
activity
zone
a
little
bit
deeper
into
the
site
and
have
these
little
outdoor
living
room
spaces
for
people
to
be
able
to
hang
out
and
experience
and
utilize
for
the
public.
G
An
important
thing
to
note
with
the
ground
floor
is
again.
You
know
all
the
lobbies
being
off
of
the
promenade
getting
activating
the
promenade
with
office
users
when
they
go
back
and
forth
between
the
amenities
and
to
connect
with
the
rest
of
the
office
users
on
the
campus,
but
also
providing
interior
active
zones
of
community
commercial
which
connect
to
the
actual
community
in
the
neighborhood
surrounding
the
site
just
outside
of
san
antonio
center.
G
G
Another
important
features
along
that
open
promenade.
What
we
did
is
we
created
this
two-story
portal
element
that
acts
as
a
gateway
into
the
entry
to
the
promenade,
as
well
as
some
protection
for
the
outdoor
active
spaces
below
here
you
can
see
the
the
other
side
along
silicon
and
promenade
of
that
same
view,
and
that
covers
everything
we
wanted
to
present
today.
But
we've
since
made
divisions
to
the
resign
to
the
design
since
the
drc
and
we'd
be
happy
to
discuss
those
in
detail
with
some
imagery
supporting
imagery
as
well.
A
Would
it
be
appropriate
to
see
those
images
now
or
if.
A
H
Just
as
I'll
just
remind
the
the
pc
that
these
are
things
that
the
applicant
team
hasn't
has
been
working
on,
but
they
have
not
been
subject
to
any
review
by
city
staff
for
the
drc.
So
it
may
be
useful
for
epc
to
see
these
things
to
get
a
sense
for
some
of
the
direction
that
the
applicant
is
is
taking
the
feedback
that
we've
we've
provided.
But
again,
please
please
bear
in
mind
that
these
are
works
in
progress
that
have
not
gotten
reviewed
by
staff.
A
G
G
G
Consider
alternate
material
materiality
at
the
retail
along
here
and
you'll,
see
zoomed
in
views
of
all
these
as
we
go
through,
I'm
emphasizing
the
the
pedestrian
scale
and
this
two-story
volume
and
then
using
round
cloud
columns
to
differentiate
the
massing
and
reinforce
the
diagram
of
the
of
this
vertical
piece
coming
down
along
the
retail
facade.
G
G
To
that
corner,
since
it's
the
gateway
we've
entered,
we've
brought
in
more
of
this
pedestrian
scale
elements
just
to
bring
down
that
two-story
volume
for
people
who
are
walking
through
here
we've
changed
the
material
of
the
retail
which
you'll
see
momentarily
and
differentiated
the
decks
by
using
concrete
and
made
it
more
transparent.
So
you
can
see
through
that's
also
differentiated
from
the
decks
on
the
east
side
as
well
as
well
as
the
introduction
of
an
art,
piece
and
landscape
is
currently
working
through
opening
up
this
landscaping
area
along
here.
G
As
noted
previously,
here
you
can
see
the
materiality
of
the
facade
and
the
request
to
change
it
same
thing
with
the
pedestrian
scale.
Here,
as
you
switch
over
you
could,
this
is
actually
an
expanded
metal,
aluminum
material
now
and
we've
introduced
some
of
these
canopies
to
really
bring
the
scale
down
in
that
two-story
volume.
G
Another
comment
that
was
that
was
good
is
just
that
the
differentiation
between
this
retail
facade
and
this
retail
facade
and
the
idea
of
maybe
bringing
some
of
that
around
the
corner.
I'm
getting
rid
of
this
obtrusive
vertical
element
to
really
separate
this
retail
from
the
structure.
So
and
then
also
emphasize
a
contrasting
shape
for
the
form,
something
a
little
bit
more
playful.
G
G
Apologies
and
then
this
shows
the
the
butterfly
roof
to
create
that
contrasting
playful
shape
and
then
you'll
see
in
another
view,
but
we've
created
more
differentiation
with
the
punch
openings
along
here.
G
So
here
you
can
see
how
we
set
that
back
and
really
created
a
more
generous
pedestrian
scale
or
pedestrian
experience
along
here,
as
well
as
higher
end
materials
by
bringing
that
wood
feature
element.
That
was
occurring
in
the
promenade
gateway
around
the
corner,
and
so
this
was
before
it
feels
a
little
bit
tight
and
then,
after
it
really
opens
that
up
and
provides
some
protection
as
well,
and
so
that
concludes
my
presentation.
A
Okay,
thanks
very
much
those
help
a
lot
all
right.
Let's
go
back
then,
to
to
the
commission
and
let's,
let's
go
through
the
drill
about
where
we
talk
about
who
visited
the
site
and
who
has
spoken
in
advance
to
the
applicant.
So
can
can
we
just
go
down
through
the
list?
A
Other
commissioners,
please
raise
your
hand
and
I'll
call
on
you,
commissioner,
hey
meier.
A
Okay,
commissioner,
schmeezing
fame,
okay,
commissioner
yeah.
A
All
right,
so
I
think
that's
everyone
right,
okay,
so
having
done
the
disclosures,
since
this
is
a
study
session,
we
will
then
take
it
back
for
public
comment
and
then
come
back
to
the
epc
for
questions
and
discussions.
So
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
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on
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users
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and
unmute
themselves
with
star
six.
A
J
Hey
there,
can
you
hear
me
yep,
oh
awesome,
okay,
so
hi
everyone
I'm
paying
she
her
hers
and
I'm
a
mountain
view
resident.
So
thank
you
so
much
to
city
staff,
commissioners
and
applicants
for
working
on
this
project.
I
actually
grew
up
near
the
sears
store,
so
I've
always
been
really
excited
about
the
continued
building
of
the
san
antonio
village
center.
J
So
I
was
reading
the
report
and
the
presentation
was
really
inspiring
actually-
and
I
thought
a
lot
about
the
this
corner-
a
lot
of
san
antonio
and
california
street,
as
well
as
the
future
nearby
development.
So
I
think
about
the
impact
on
current
community
members
in
future
pedestrians,
shoppers
workers
residents
for
this
project.
I
particularly
like
the
warmer
tones
and
the
planters
with
the
plants
on
each
floor.
J
That's
really
cool,
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
explore
having
more
green
infrastructure
elements
through
the
architectural
design,
as
well
as
the
building
materials,
particularly
for
the
architectural
design.
I
think
green
elements
may
soften
or
offer
texture
to
especially
the
monolithic
boxy
aspects
and
definitely
welcome
activity
at
the
ground
floor.
J
I
think
another
thing
is
I'm
interested
in
this
project's
use
of
carbon,
neutral
building
materials
and
wonder
if
there's
opportunity
in
planning
building
this
project
for
botanical,
vertical
gardens,
green
walls,
green
roofs,
that'd
be
great
and
just
adding
you
know
continuous
need
of
landscaping
along
the
property
line
and
seeing,
if
there's
any
space
for
community
pedestrian
gathering
and
seating
options.
J
So
I
do
see
the
greenery
in
the
pictures-
and
I
think
I
saw
you
know
some
mention
of
it
in
the
project
plans,
but
I
really
like
to
echo
the
emphasis
on
the
attention
to
more
trees
and
landscaping
moving
forward
just
really
quickly.
You
know
native
plants
and
large
climate
appropriate
trees.
I
think,
could
make
the
ground
floor
and
separation
between
the
structures
really
lively
and
inviting
these
natural
elements
are
well
they're
natural
assets
and
they
give
us
the
benefits
of
calmer
streets
noise
buffering.
J
You
know,
I
think,
that's
going
to
be
important
for
future
residents,
nearby
storm
water
management
and,
more
so
overall,
in
my
reflection
about
just
the
community
character
and
mount
of
view
in
the
revision
of
san
antonio
center.
I
think
connected
patches
of
you
know,
larger
canopy
native
landscaping
could
be
mentally
calming
help
with
movies
buffering
natural
beauty
and
pretty
much
increase
the
connectivity
to
the
nearby
greenness
of
the
san
antonio
overpass
in
the
adjacent
residential
neighborhood,
and
I
think,
that's
all
my
notes.
Thanks
for
an
opportunity
to
speak.
A
A
B
I
While
he's
pulling
that
up
I'll
offer
a
verbal
description
when
we
built
the
sub
trade,
the
four
levels
of
sub
training
parking
under
office
buildings,
one
and
two-
we
actually
provided
for
what
they're
called
knockouts
at
the
end
of
the
parking
aisles
in
the
subterranean
parking
decks
in
phase
two,
so
that
we
didn't
have
to
provide
a
ramp
and
use
up
valuable
ground
space
in
a
future
phase.
Phase
three
such
that
the
sub-terrain
and
parking
levels
on
all
four
floors,
just
connect
by
extended
parking
lanes
or
parking
driver
house
through
the
project.
G
All
right,
so,
basically,
when
you
you
ramp
down
into
the
garage
through
here,
so
this
comes
off
of
silicon
and
you
come
down
through
the
parking
garage
and
you
come
down
around
and
then
you
can
keep
going
up
and
around
as
you
go
up
the
very
as
you
go
down
the
various
levels,
but
you
can.
You
also
enter
there's
already
knockout
panels
existing
in
the
project,
so
we'd
knock
those
out.
This
was
all
planned
for
this
third
phase
previously
and
then
that's
that's
exact.
That's
essentially
how
you
enter
the
garage.
F
I'm
sorry,
are
you
saying
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
so
vehicles
enter
through
the
existing
garage.
The
construction
elements
are
already
integrated
so
that
there
is
flow
between
the
two
garages,
so
the
entrance
there
is.
G
H
You're
correct,
commissioner
right:
you
come
through
the
garage
on
the
in
the
adjacent
office
building
and
then
each
level
of
the
new
garage
is
accessible
from
that
same
level
in
the
existing
development
yeah.
Just
like.
F
If
they're
modifications,
I
know
we're
really
focused
on
landscaping
design
elements.
I
Well,
we
we
continue
to
design
for
people
to
get
out
of
these
buildings
and
be
able
to
hang
out
outside
whether
that's
just
dining
or
during
breaks
and
and
part
of
that
is
with
the
agreement.
I
As
far
as
the
tenants
themselves
we've
been
hearing,
although
we
haven't
seen
it
yet
because
no
one's
back
to
work
yet,
but
the
tenants
are
looking
to
increase
the
square
footage
provided
for
each
occupant,
in
other
words,
typically
a
tech
tenant
like
our
facebook.
Senator
now,
you
know
provide
the
only
so
many
square
feet
per
occupant
and
what
we've
heard
is
that
they're
looking
strongly
to
not
only
to
promote
hoteling,
which
is
people
can
come
in
and
work
flexible
hours
at?
I
Maybe
shared
facilities,
but
also
just
more
square
foot
per
employee
in
future
design.
K
And
that's
a
good
problem
yeah
and
I
think
the
other
thing
that
we're
doing
on
our
project
is.
We
have
a
lot
of
those
setback
floors
with
lots
of
balconies.
You
know
we
have
so
many
balconies
on
this
project.
It
almost
feels
more
like
a
residential
project.
The
way
it
looks
and
that's
on
purpose-
that's
so
that
we
can
have
that
indirect
connection
up
on
the
buildings
and
into
the
workplace
as
well,
because
we
know
that
the
access
to
fresh
air
is
a
key
component
and
it's
not
just
in
response
to
the
current
conditions.
K
C
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
the
applicant
had
considered
the
lessons
learned
from
phase
one
and
phase
two,
particularly
with
pedestrian
and
bicycle
flow
through
through
the
project.
C
We
gave
feedback
in
prior
years
of
the
inaccessibility
of
both
the
pedestrian
and
the
bicycles
through
this
project,
and
there
was
nothing
that
was
ever
corrected
to
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
pedestrians
and
bikes
to
go
through
this.
You
know
this
project
and
it
is.
It
is
huge-
and
I
think
that
is
certainly
a
challenge
to
look
at
that
and
to
take
that
into
serious
consideration,
even
modifying
the
existing
pedestrian
and
bike
that
is
already
existing
in
phase
one
and
phase
two.
We
didn't
see
any
of
that.
C
We
requested
that
from
phase
one
and
phase
two,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
some
lessons
learned
and
that
you
would
incorporate
that
into
this
design.
I'm
not
seeing
that
right
now
and
I'm
I'm
a
bit
disappointed
to
be
really
honest
with
you.
So
I
don't
know
if
you've
talked
about
that
in
any
detail,
but
would
like
to
publicly
request
that
that
be
a
big
consideration.
A
Okay,
let's
see,
did
you
want
to
respond
to
a
commissioner's
comment.
I
Sure
this
is
dave
geyser
again
we
did
work
with
with
staff,
but
based
on
comments
regarding
bike
and
pedestrian
access
and
and
thought
that
we
had
made
great
strides
in
providing
not
only
sharrow's
widened
bike
paths
not
only
on
paketti
but
also
around
the
park
as
far
as
pedestrian
access,
the
installation
of
the
pedestrian
crossing
signals.
I
Between
the
residential
and
the
park
itself,
identifying
crosswalks
with
the
colored
and
enhanced
paving
at
those
intersections
with
crosswalks
and
pedestrian
signs,
so
we
we
did
pay
attention
and-
and
we
did
make
modifications
to
our
phase
two
plans
in
reference
to
you-
know
comments
made
from
phase
one
for
for
this
current
phase,
we're
certainly
interested
in
promoting
pedestrian
connectivity
and
safety,
especially
bicycle
safety
as
well.
I
We
provided
the
bicycle
lockers
and
the
bike
racks
to
again
promote
that
kind
of
activity.
We
have
bike
lockers
north,
like
lockers
down
in
the
parking
levels
and
showers
to
promote
bike
people
biking
to
work
and
using
altered
transportation
by
the
way
which
they
do.
I
A
lot
of
people
take
their
bikes
on
caltrain
to
come
to
the
facebook
facility
and
use
our
bike
lockers
and
showers
that
we've
provided
in
the
ground
floor
so
well,
while
we
will
certainly
endeavor
and
and
take
your
cue
to
do
more
and
look
at
doing
more
and
working
with
staff
to
promote
that.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
that
does
not
it's
not
an
afterthought
for
us
and
it's
something
that
we
work
with
urban
arena.
E
F
Yeah,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
is
perhaps
this
is
the
staff
whether
you
have
any
numbers
on
the
job
housing
balance
in
the
san
antonio
precise
plan
area
itself.
F
F
We
don't
have
a
specific
dropped
housing
ratio
in
this
area
that
I'm
aware
of
that
we're
keeping
track
of
and
rebecca
shapiro
may
be
able
to
speak
more
to
that.
F
We
have
not
exceeded
the
maximum
office.
Even
if
this
project
does
move
forward,
we
will
not
exceed
the
maximum
office
allowed
in
the
san
antonio
area
and
as
as
noted
in
the
responses
to
questions
we
have
approved
and
have
currently
under
construction,
a
good
number
of
residential
units
almost
to
the
maximum
studied
in
the
eir
for
the
san
antonio
precise
plan.
So
while
the
precise
plan
could
allow
for
additional
units,
the
assumed
maximum
at
the
time
of
the
eir
is
already
under
construction
or
close
to
it.
F
A
Okay,
commissioner
schmeezing.
L
K
Well,
I
I
I
think
that
you
know
if
you
look
back
on
what
the
typical
tech
type
of
user
uses,
it's
probably
150
175
square
feet
per
person,
probably
closer
to
175,
which
is
traditionally
a
little
bit
more
dense
than
what
we
used
to
see
back
in
the
day
when
it
was
200
250..
K
So
I
think
that's
going
to
come
out
somewhat
balance
each
other.
So
I
don't
recall
exactly
the
square
footage
david.
G
K
I
We're
seeing
with
facebook
in
office
buildings
one
and
two
currently
yeah,
there's
probably
just
over
two
thousand
employees
there
currently
so
about
another
thousand
employees,
makes
makes
sense
for
the
total
development
and
then
obviously
more
workers.
You
know
we've
got
15
or
so
thousand
square
feet
of
ground
floor,
retail
and
depending
on
the
use
and
the
intensity
of
the
use,
whether
it
be
straight
retail
or
combination
of
restaurant,
the
the
number
of
jobs
or
the
people
employed.
There
will
vary
on
youth.
G
And
just
the
office
set
up
175,
it
gets
us
956
employees.
L
You
are
just
commenting
on
the
retail,
and
I
know
this
has
come
up
in
just
a
couple
meetings
and
developments
in
the
past
concerns
with
especially
now
the
feasibility
of
of
retail
and
if
there's
any
plan
b
or
I
did
have
a
chance
to
look
at
the
staff
response-
and
it
does
seem
like,
although
there
are
some
open
spaces
within
the
complex
that
those
were
planning
to
be
released,
pre-covered
but
whether
to
staff
or
to
the
applicant,
is
there
a
plan
b
if,
for
whatever
reason,
real
retail
isn't
looking
feasible.
I
Can
you
unmute
and
give
us
your
thoughts
on
that.
M
My
name
is
brett
christopoulos
I've
been
in
charge
of
the
leasing
this
project
for
the
last
three
years
and
to
kind
of
give
you
a
quick
little
background
as
to
the
where,
where
we
started,
where
we've
been,
where
we're
going
pre-covered
and
where
we're
starting
to
go
now,
giving
a
little
background
during
that
time,
when
I
first
started
working
on
this
project
for
malone
guy
or
we
were
in
a
process
where
linkedin,
which
was
the
original
office
tenant,
was
in
transition
of
subluxing
their
space
and
we
were
without
an
office
tenant.
M
At
the
same
time,
too,
the
hyatt
centric
was
about
a
year
delayed
in
their
development,
and
so
we
got
to
so,
while
we're
going
through
the
initial
phase
of
getting
people
up
and
going,
we,
we
started
to
really
get
our
stride
of
leasing
within
the
last
now
which
it
feels
like
it
was
only
12
months
ago
really
18
months
ago,
we
at
the
time
signed
about
seven
leases
and
had
another,
probably
five
or
six
going
through
letter
of
intent
after
that,
since
covent
we've
also
lost
some
of
those
tenants
with
that
we're
in
sign
leases
and
within
lender
of
intent
and
still
do
have
a
handful
of
tenants
that
are
actually
strong
best
category
tenants
moving
forward
at
the
asset
right
now.
M
I
I
think,
just
like
anything
else,
you
know
with
the
with
the
horizon
of
a
vaccine
and
as
people
are
starting
to
learn
how
to
handle
this
covet
environment.
We've
actually
seen
a
number
of
people
start
to
come
and
start
to
thaw
out
and
start
to
re-look
at
the
project.
Again
so
you
know
we're
actually
very,
very
bullish
on
where
the
future
of
this
is
going
to
go,
but
unfortunately
went
through
a
a
massive
roadblock
slash,
speed
bump,
like
everybody
else
has
been
going
through.
M
So
you
know
when
it
pertains
to
any
other
type
uses.
You
know
the
precise
plan
is
very,
very
strict
on
to
the
type
of
uses
we
could
do
on
the
on
the
ground
floor
and
and
but
right
now,
we've
been
focused
on
our
merchandising
plan,
which
we
think
has
very
strong
legs
and
and.
L
Thank
you
and
then
last
question.
I
I
bike
commute
to
work
and
my
route
used
to
take
me
through
or
around
this
area,
and
I
will
say
we'll
say
it's
very
tough,
tough
to
bike
through
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
any
possibility
of
like
protected
bike
lanes.
I
looking
at
the
amount
of
space
between
the
buildings,
I'm
assuming
that
probably
would
be
not
feasible,
and
this
could
also
trail
into
the
discussion
as
well,
but
wanted
to
see
what
thoughts
were
on
that.
E
I
Don't
I
don't
think,
there's
room
for
protected
bikeways,
although,
where
that
might
be
where
that
might
be
possible,
we
could
certainly
look
at
it
is
along
for
khetti
and
and
maybe
maybe
rebecca
you
remember,
you
you're
the
one
who
wrote
this,
but
I
believe
that
kenny
was
envisioned
in
the
future
to
have
bike
lanes
on
either
side
as
well,
and-
and
perhaps
that
is
a
less
traffic
and
probably
more
appropriate
street.
To
look
at
for
enhancements
for
bicycle
transportation.
I
H
H
Unfortunately,
there's
there's
not
even
though
it's
it
is
very
wide
given
given
roadway
capacity
needs,
there's
not
adequate
space
for
protected
bikeways
on
san
antonio
and
there
there
is
sort
of
limited
opportunity
to
do
so
on
the
existing
internal
streets
of
the
village
at
san
antonio.
The
curb
to
curb
distances
are
generally
the
minimum
required
by
by
fire
code
for
the
for
truck
access,
and
so
any
other
sort
of
protected
bikeway
would
would
only
be
able
to
be
accomplished.
H
If
we
we
did
some
sort
of
different
shared
configuration
with
the
public
sidewalk
areas.
As
far
as
the
existing
condition
is
concerned,
there.
H
And
it
is
part
of
the
future
vision
for
the
area
it
just
it's
going
to
have
to
be
in
targeted
locations.
F
Thank
you,
yeah.
I
have
a
couple
of
other
questions.
One
is,
I
guess,
piggybacking
on
what
commissioners
schmitthey
had
talked
about.
I
want
to
ask
more
about
the
right-of-way
on
california,
san
antonio
and
the
promenade.
F
F
So
the
right-of-way,
as
measured
in
the
san
antonio
precise
plan,
is
often
is
often
measured
from
invasive
building
to
face
of
building.
So
it
includes
private
property.
Public
walkways
the
vehicle,
roadways
and
everything
in
between
from
building
to
building
and
specifically
on
promenade
across
across
promenade
from
this
project
site
is
a
large
plaza
in
front
of
the
theater.
So
because
it's
building
facade
to
building
facade
that
huge
pedestrian
plaza
is
included
in
that
right-of-way
area.
So
that
would
be
why
that
right-of-way
is
so
great
because
it's
including
not
pause
that
area.
F
Does
that
answer
your
question
yeah.
Thank
you.
So
I
am
a
little
disappointed
that
the
setbacks
and
the
right
aways
on
california
and
san
antonio,
which
are
two
very
main
streets,
are
lower
than
what
the
precise
plan
calls
for
because
it
does,
you
know,
diminish
the
pedestrian
experience
in
terms
of
the
you
know
the
space
they
have
on
these
two
such
busy
streets.
I
I
I
only
to
note
that
our
project
over
the
course
of
development
we
we've
given
up
over
between
five
and
six
feet,
I
believe,
on
san
antonio
road
to
accommodate
the
bike
lane
on
san
antonio
road
and
actually
to
accommodate
the
bikeway
on
both
sides
of
san
antonio
road,
which
is
an
improvement
we
did
during
phase
one
and
during
the
phase
two
project.
We
gave
up
another
five
to
six
feet
on
california
to
make
room
for
the
protected
bikeway
on
california
that
funds
our
property.
I
So
so,
we've
given
up
footage
for
bike,
accessibility
and
and
one
of
the
reasons
we're
actually
pulling
our
building
back
at
the
ground
floor,
is
to
provide
for
more
pedestrian
a
more
pedestrian
friendly
environment
along
the
frontages
of
san
antonio
road
in
california.
I
And-
and
I
should
know
too,
that
part
of
our
design
was
to
provide
for
strong
pedestrian
connectivity
along
the
east
side
of
our
building.
With
this
drill
box
and
the
outdoor
gathering
areas
and
and
amenity
spaces
along
there.
Not
only
do
we
have
a
generous
bifurcated
sidewalk
along
the
promenade,
but
we
provide
additional
pedestrian
amenities
areas
under
the
cup
of
the
building.
I
As
david
and
daryl
pointed
out
along
the
promenade
and
again
that
the
idea
was
we're
going
to
hold
the
building
back
quite
generously
from
the
promenade
to
again
just
to
just
to
enhance
pedestrian
experience
along
with
promenade
and
the
connectivity
of
the
plaza
across
the
silicon.
F
F
This
site
definitely
has
constraints
as
far
as
the
location
of
the
building
envelope,
so
the
applicant
has
been
working
with
us
extensively,
as
I
mentioned,
to
make
sure
that
there
is
enough
space
for
both
landscaping,
separated,
sidewalks
and
amenity
areas
along
california
and
san
antonio
road,
and
that
the
details
of
which
staff
is
confident
we
can
continue
to
work
through,
but
because
this
project
was
authorized
with
the
150
000
square
feet
of
tdrs
through
the
lasd
tdr
program,
and
that
is
a
council
priority
fitting
this
much
square
footage
on
this
site.
F
Is
it
has
causes
constraints
right?
You
have
to
either
go
up
or
go
out,
so
if
the
project
is
to
use
all
the
square
footage
that
they're
authorized
to
use
and
purchase
all
that
square
footage,
so
the
money
can
go
to
lasd
for
building
a
school.
Then
if
there
were
to
be
increased
setbacks
here,
the
trade-off
would
have
to
be
a
taller
building,
and
so
that's
a
difficult
balance.
K
Could
you
put
that
back
up
again
just
wanted
to
point
out
something
that
if
you
look
at
that
plan,
we
are
actually
increasing,
as
as
david
had
mentioned,
we're
increasing
the
amount
of
perceived
right
away
at
the
ground
plane,
because
if
you
look
at
the
building
on
the
right
with
the
pop
out
kind
of
all
the
way
to
the
right,
we
set
our
building
significantly
from
that
and
you
look
at
the
building
below
us
to
the
south.
We've
set
our
ground
floor
in
from
that
building
as
well.
G
It's
also
important
to
note
that
there
are
constraints
in
order
to
get
enough
parking
as
well
and
the
way
that
the
structure
needs
to
be
laid
out
for
parking.
That
also
gives
us
some
constraints
to
note,
but
it
doesn't
understand.
K
F
Thank
you
for
the
thoughts
and
efforts
that
you
all
have
put
in
it,
but
yeah.
It's
definitely
a
very
important
issue,
for
I
think
all
the
residents
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
I
wanted
to
also
address
the
miss
lee's
comments
during
the
public
comments
period
that
she's
hoping
to
see
more
urban
greening
in
this
area
to
make
sure
public
health
is
promoted
for
everybody's
benefits.
F
So
related
to
that,
I
wanted
to
ask
about
open
space
because
this
area
is
so
dense.
You
know,
obviously
it's
very
important
to
have
open
space
and
I
really
appreciate
the
thoughts
on
having
a
lot
of
balconies
so
that
employees
can
have
access
to
fresh
air
and
can
be
outside
having
meals
and
whatnot.
F
G
I'll,
just
I'll
speak
to
it
in
keith's
absence,
74
percent
total
public
space
area
on
the
ground
floor.
I
believe
I
might
be
getting
that
wrong.
You
know
that
keith
control
are
you
able
to
hear
me
now
yeah
yeah?
We.
N
K
Not
only
did
we
pull
the
building
back
from
the
right-of-way
to
give
more
public
space
on
our
on
our
property,
but
we
have
this
this
breezeway,
if
you
will,
that
connects
california
with
the
promenade
and
all
that
is
open
to
the
public.
There's
an
outdoor
plaza
out
here
in
the
front
of
the
jewel
box
and
there's
a
second
public
seating
area
south
of
the
of
the
jewel
box.
So
for
a
for
a
congested
site,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
public
area
here.
N
David,
are
you
able
to
go
to
sheets
like,
I
believe
it's
four
point,
one.
K
Well
before
you
go
before
you
go
there,
let's
just
look
at
the
up
this
sheet
for
a
minute,
so
the
other
thing
that
we've
done
as
you
can
see
in
the
purple
areas
is
we've
actually
brought
those
decks
and
outdoor
spaces
in
landscaped
areas.
All
the
way
up.
The
building.
So
each
floor
has
some
level
of
deck
with
additional
greenery
going
up
the
building.
So
it
has
been
a
very
much
of
a
concern
that
we
thought
about
and
we
believe
that's
something
that
the
tenants
are
going
to
drive
and
demand
in
the
future.
F
N
Well,
we've
got
you
know,
a
lot
of
them
are.
It's
main
concern
is
keeping
them.
Drought,
tolerant,
but
we've
also
got
a
lot
of
flowering
plants,
we're
also
looking
for
plants
that
would
spill
over
the
sides
and
when
you
get
to
the
upper
levels,
we've
got
some.
Where
we've
got
the
space
for
the
trees,
we've
got
some
flowering,
crepe
myrtles
at
the
top,
which
are
also
drought,
tolerant,.
F
F
Yeah,
so
I
hope
you
will
be
able
to
use
pretty
generous
planters
for
those
trees,
so
they
can
grow.
Yes,
oh
yes,
there's
some
sizes,
quite
large
yeah.
Unfortunately
they
can't
grow
all
that
big
in
planters.
G
G
Yeah,
we
definitely
count
and
we
also
place
the
trees
over
existing
column
grid
intersections
just
so
that
weight
can
be
carried.
N
The
reason
I
was
wanting
to
go
to
this
sheet
is
because
of
these
sections
at
the
bottom
there.
It
shows
that
how
you
know
we're
meeting
the
the
guidelines
for
the
setbacks
with
the
six
foot
planter
area
from
the
from
the
face
of
curb,
then
there's
a
eight
foot
pedestrian
zone,
but
then
at
the
ground
level,
there's
also
the
setback
for
the
before
you
get
to
the
building.
There's
a
quite
generous
active
space.
F
Right,
yeah,
now
that
you
mentioned
trees,
I
would
really
encourage
you
to
make
sure
the
trees
have.
You
know
the
structure
of
the
sword
and
all
that,
so
that
their
roots
can
really
be
healthy
and
strong.
Absolutely.
N
F
Oh
actually,
silicon
way
is
that
above
parking,
the
parking
goes.
F
Okay,
so
again,
you're
using
large
planters
for
the
street
trees
here.
N
F
That's
great,
that's
it
for
now
for
me,
thank
you.
B
F
Just
think
this
project
is
a
little
bit
different
because
it
is
such
a
key
corner.
I
know
there's
that
wonderful
installation
about
the
history
of
silicon
valley
on
san
antonio
road,
but.
F
F
F
You
were
touting
earlier
in
phases,
one
and
two.
I
I
We
see
that
the
doorways
to
the
retail
on
california
also
happening
off
the
sidewalk,
which
is
why
we
have
that
generous
outdoor
area
for
pedestrian
traffic
there
as
well,
but
in
terms
of
actually
aside
from
the
the
outdoor
dining
area
on
san
antonio.
The
reason
why
we've
located
most
of
our
activated
and
pedestrian
areas
and
plazas
is
off
of
the
main
street
off
of
the
promenade
and
then
that's
why
that's
located
on
that
side
of
the
building?
I
We
see
that
activated
and
used,
definitely
because
it's
connected
not
only
to
the
office
lobby
but
also
connected
to
the
promenade
and
connected
to
the
plaza
across
the
street,
and
so
we
certainly
see
activity
off
the
promenade
side,
especially
the
theater
across
the
street
too,
and
ground
floor
retail.
I
So
so,
even
though
we
have
very
generous
of
pedestrian
activity
areas
on
the
roadway
side,
we're
thinking
that
the
more
highly
used
areas
will
be
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
off
the
promenade.
I
Absolutely
in
fact
the
the
unfortunately,
it
is
pretty
quiet
over
there.
Now,
with
the
theater
closed
and
and
facebook
employees
working
from
home
there.
There
is
not
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
period,
it's
pretty
quiet
over
there,
but
when
the
theater
was
open
and
facebook
was
open,
there
was
definitely
the
the
traffic
areas
were
definitely
in
front
of
the
theater
along
the
promenade,
and
certainly
during
the
day,
the
plaza
is
actually
fairly
busy
with
employees
coming
out
to
have
their
life
if
they
get
their
lunch
or
they
go
get
their
lunch
in
the
center.
I
And
then
they
come
out
to
the
tables
and
chairs
and
they
found
any
lunch
outside
in
the
promenade.
And
that
was
that's
and
we
just
think
that's
simply
going
to
be
further
enhanced.
Once
we
get
the
retail,
at
least
across
the
street
and
the
people
back
in
the
building-
and
this
is
also
why
the
hotel
located
there-
they
have
an
outdoor
dining
area
outside
of
fairchild's,
their
their
restaurant
inside
their
hotel
and-
and
that's
that's
quite
well,
used
as
well
or
was
when
they
were
when
they
had
more
gas.
I
But
when
they
were
in
full
swing.
It
was
a
very
active
area
not
only
with
the
drop
off
at
the
hotel,
but
also
with
that
outdoor
area.
So
the
problem
we
think
is
not
only
is
there
generous
areas
and
opportunities
for
outdoor
dining
and
activation,
but
but
we
see
just
the
further
enhancement
of
this
promenade
with
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
here
at
day.
Three.
D
Pardon
me
sorry
about
that,
where
the
jewel
boxes
near
the
promenade,
and
I
can
see
that
there's
public
access
all
the
way
around
it
and
I
was
just
curious-
the
entrance
to
the
jewel
box
retail.
Where
is
that.
I
Well,
it'll
be
largely
daryl
I'll.
Let
you
take
this
and
david.
It's
going
to
be
largely
dependent
on
what
the
tenant
is
and
how
many
tenants
there
are.
The
space
is
large
enough
to
actually
house
with
1500
square
feet.
Typically,
these
smaller
tenants
that
we
find
like
a
florist
or
newspaper
vending
or
coffee
or
a
juice
place.
They
don't
need
1500
square
feet
to
operate
there.
So,
as
you
can
see
where
the
door
locations
are
on
the
both
the
north
and
south
side,
we
can
see
this
easily
being
two.
D
Separate
tenants
serving
both
sides:
okay,
okay,
I
was
just
curious
because
are
those
stairs
going
down
on
the
west
side
of
the
jewel
box
so
between
the
the
exits.
K
D
Okay,
so
I
was
just
a
little
bit
concerned
that
perhaps
that
area
wasn't
as
usable
because
of
it
and
also
there's
no
access
from
the
building
out
to
it,
and
I,
like
the
idea,
a
lot
of
the
the
jewel
box
retail,
the
newer
imagery
that
you
showed
taking
away
sort
of
the
vertical
stake
that
hammers
it
down
in
the
ground.
Yes,
I
appreciate
now
that
it's
more
of
a
clear-cut
jewel
box,
I'm
just
thinking
of
the
practicality
of
the
usage
around
it.
K
California,
as
an
outdoor
living
room,
so
it
has
a
very
high
access
with
outdoor
seating
and
outdoor
congregation
right
out
here
and
then
we've
designed
the
second
area
of
the
promenade
for
another
outdoor
seating
area.
So
those
activate
the
two
entries
to
the
to
the
commercial
retail
and
the
rest
is
a
bit
of
a
pass-through.
It's
a
circulation
space
to
get
from
the
street.
I
That's
not
to
say,
though,
if
we
had
a
retail
tent
that
needed
more
outdoor
space
for
whether
it
be
dining
or
seating,
we
would
extend
those
areas
and
we
could
relocate
stairs
to
enlarge
those
areas
around
the
sides
of
the
building
to
provide
for
additional
outdoor
area.
It's
really
going
to
be
a
tenant
driven
decision.
D
Got
it
okay,
I
understand
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
we're
utilizing
every
square
foot
of
open
space
to
the
best
possible
in
the
best
possible
way
that
we
can,
and
I
just
wanted
and
noting
how
much
it
is,
how
much
space
it
is.
D
It's
very
generous
given
what
the
uses
are
next
to
it
and
and
the
great
change
I
just
wanted
to
ensure
we're
making
use
of
it
that
people
will
actually
use
it
because
in
my
mind,
I'm
thinking
those
people
if
they're
not
going
to
the
retail
jewel
box
they're
out
on
the
promenade.
So
most
of
the
foot
traffic
is
going
to
be
on
the
outside
of
the
jewel
box
towards
the
street,
less
going
between
the
building
and
the
jewel
box
itself.
D
K
There's
no
there's
no
activation
on.
If
you
go
back
to
the
plan,
that
is
the
emergency
stairs,
so
the
retail
tenant
is
on
the
is
on
the
north
side
and
they
have
an
ample
access
to
that
courtyard
and
on
the
south
side.
Is
the
building
lobby
coming
into
the
main
road
we'd,
be
happy
to
take
a
look
at
that
area
and
see
if
we
can.
D
Great
thanks,
let's
see,
I
was
going
to
say
that
a
lot
of
the
changes
that
the
drc
had
recommended
was
what
I
was
thinking
as
well,
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
you
guys
moved
in
that
direction.
D
D
The
other
point
that
I
was
going
to
make
is
when
I
visited
the
site,
I
was
a
little
bit
concerned
about
silicon
way.
Now
it's
back
of
the
house
and
so
not
nearly
as
important.
So
I
understand
why
there's
not
a
lot
of
room
given
over
there,
but
just
in
looking
where
the
existing
building
is
and
how
much
room
there
is
given
that
we're
going
to
add.
D
Like
maybe
almost
six
foot
planters,
it
seemed
like
a
very
narrow
sidewalk
and
I
think
I
read
somewhere
in
the
staff
report
that
we're
still
thinking
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic.
I'm
glad
to
see
that
you
guys
push
the
face
of
the
ground
floor.
Back
a
little,
but
I
believe,
there's
still
columns
in
the
way,
so
the
effective
walking
aisle
is.
How
much
do
you
know
between
the
planter
so
like
the
narrowest
point
of
walking
might
be
between
a
column
and
a
planter?
Do
you
know
about
how
wide
that
is.
G
D
I
Be
figure
that
out
the
other
thing
we've
done
is
we've
made
a
concerted
effort
to
actually
place
these
above
grade
planters
and
pots,
and
the
pedestrian
light
poles
in
between
the
pedestrian
walkway
and
the
roadway
to
help
provide
a
sense
more
of
a
sense
of
security
to
the
pedestrians.
So,
even
though
the
it's
not
just
full
sidewalk
between
there,
the
idea
was
to
provide
some
at
least.
D
D
Now,
that's,
that's!
That's
decent!
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
guess
I
I'm
just
looking
towards
what
the
landscaping
plan
will
be
next.
I
know
you
haven't
had
time
to
look
at
it,
but
I
had
the
same
concerns
at
the
corner
of
san
antonio
in
california.
D
I
And
we're
still
working
on
how
that
core
is
going
to
work
to
provide
not
only
the
the
landscape
it
needs.
But
but
if
they
had
the
same
commons,
it
feel
felt
a
little
constricted
and
we're
working
on
revised
plans
to
figure
out
how
to
open
that
up.
A
little
bit
more
and
again,
we're
talking
about
adding
artwork
here
and
and
working
with
the
planners
to
try
to
cope
with
a
better
solution.
And
so
we're
still
working
on
that.
K
K
G
D
Okay,
okay,
yeah-
and
you
know
I'm
all
for
planters
more
greenery
yeah
again,
I'm
just
going
to
reiterate
where
the
planters
are,
how
their
design
greatly
affects,
how
it
feels.
So
I
guess
you
can
just
push.
D
Yeah
and
again
same
thing,
I
think
the
drc
you
mentioned
earlier,
that
you
were
going
to
take
a
look
at
this
as
well,
is
the
corner
of
california
and
the
promenade
and
that
it
should
all
feel
more
open
and
by
defining
that
corner
with
a
big,
huge
planter,
I'm
not
saying
don't
have
a
planter
just
how
it's
configured.
It's
actually
closing
off
all
the
beautiful
public
access
way
that
you've
given
over
from
the
promenade,
so
it's
breaking
it
up,
and
so
it
feels
more
like
corridors
instead
of
an
open
plaza.
D
A
Let's
see,
let's
go
back
to
the
participant
view,
looks
like
a
follow-up
question
from
commissioner
capriles.
C
Yes,
just
tag
on
to
what
commissioner
yen
was
saying,
you
mentioned
the
applicant
mentioned
that
they
were
considering
some
kind
of
sculpture
and
some
kind
of
artwork,
because
it
is
a
gateway.
I'm
wondering
if
you've
considered
exactly
where
the
prior
location
was
before
you
purchased.
It
there's
a
historical
value
to
that
area.
C
If
you
would
include
that
type
of
historical
significance,
where
you
know
we're,
we've
always
been
very
proud
from
a
mountain
view,
perspective
that
that's
really
where
the
silicon
chip
originated
and
that's
the
silicon
valley,
and
often
that
is
you
know,
overlooked
and
I'm
wondering
if
you've
taken
that
into
consideration
in
this
overall
design,
with
all
the
exceptions
that
you've
requested
from
the
san
antonio
precise
plan,
I'm
wondering
if
you
would
consider
that,
including
that
as
well.
I
The
answer
is
yes,
we
actually,
where
the
former
shockley
lab
was
on
san
antonio
road
is
exactly
where
all
of
our
monumentation
and
artwork
is
located.
So
there's
great
monumentation
artwork
already
on
san
antonio
road,
at
the
exact
location
of
where
the
shockley
labs
stood.
So
so
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
in
in
preserving
and
creating
that
monumentation
and
recognition
from
the
ieee
and
others
plaques
in
the
ground
commemorating
that
as
well.
What
we
had
talked
about
doing
with
the
drc
is
actually
providing
again.
I
So
that's
the
existing
picture
of
the
of
the
artwork
of
the
original
transistors
that
were
developed
on
site
there
and
that's
actually
out
on
san
antonio
road
and
and
so
we'd,
be
more
than
happy
to
continue
that
theme
around
at
the
corner
of
san
antonio
and
california.
In
fact,
that's
somewhat
what
we
propose.
It
is
there's
something
of
the
scale
and
masking
that
we
might
be
able
to
do
at
that
corner.
You
can
see
we
for
just
for
the
size
and
scale.
I
You
can
see
further
down
to
your
right
there,
where
that
existing
monumentation
is
where
the
shocking
lab
was.
What
we
talked
about
doing
was
doing
something
complementary,
not
matching
but
complementary
to
again
commemorate
the
events
of
the
site
at
391
san
antonio
road
in
that
location,
so
it
needs
to
be
developed,
but
I
completely
agree
that
that
is
that
that
is
an
appropriate
solution
to
do
there.
At
that
point,.
C
Yeah,
because,
even
though
it
is
you
know,
it
is
the
the
village
as
you
have
named
it.
I
think
that,
because
of
the
significance
of
it,
we
want
to,
you
know
have
that
in
a
very
prominent
area.
So
I
would
appreciate
your
consideration
of
that.
Thank
you.
F
F
I
don't
think
it
represents
that
70
74
of
the
ground
level
is
open
space.
Rather
is
it.
I
N
N
N
There
is
the
area
that's
kind
of
indicated
in
the
magenta.
Is
the
private
open
space?
That's
that
outdoor
dining
along
san
antonio
road
and
then
but
what's
usable
public
open
space
is
the
kind
of
it's
kind
of
got
a
blue
color,
a
blue
tone
to
it
and
that's
74
of
that
ground
level.
Space
within
the
within
the
property
line,
that's
snake
building,
so
it's
tall!
It's
the
total
public
space
minus
the
planted
area
equals
your
74
percent
is
actually
public
open.
F
A
Okay,
saying
no
hands
up.
I
just
have
a
few
remaining
questions.
No
one's
asked
about
the
specifics
of
the
parking
yet
so
I'll.
Take
that
one.
The
first
question
is
back
to
staff:
is
there
any
necessity
or
to
study
how
the
additional
traffic
that
is
going
to
go
through
the
circulation
to
get
into
this
project
affects
the
overall
traffic
in
the
vicinity,
or
is
that
believed
to
be
kind
of
like
not
going
to
be
significant
enough
that
it
merits
any
study.
F
Traffic,
a
traffic
study
will
be
completed
for
this
project.
We've
just
contracted
with
a
consultant
to
begin
that
study
and
because
the
state
and
the
city
recently
adopted
new
traffic
regulations.
As
far
as
studying
bmt,
we'll
also
be
studying
that
as
well
for
this
project.
G
And
if
I
can
jump
in
one
one
second,
to
respond
to
commissioner
lowe
just
for
clarification,
the
open
area
is
40
of
if
you're
looking
at
it
from
building
outline
to
open
space.
It's
forty
percent,
so
in
contrast
to
the
seventy
four
percent,
which
is
a
different
number
for
something
else,
so
just
to
clarify
that.
A
G
A
No
problem:
okay,
I'm
going
to
ask
a
follow-up
question
at
40
percent
of
what.
G
Forty
percent
of
the
lot
so
yeah-
that's
not
considered
building
area,
so
that
includes
planters,
open
seating,
et
cetera.
A
Okay,
all
right.
Another
follow-up
question
this
one
for
the
applicant,
so
it
sounds
like
you
already
have
a
tenant
for
the
office
building
negotiation.
No,
we
don't!
Oh
you
don't!
Okay,.
A
I
understand
and
then
another
another
question
I'm
trying
to
understand.
You
know
how
this
fits
in
with
you
know,
other
parts
of
merlon
guy
or
phase
2
in
particular
the
there's,
a
large
open
area.
Right
now
I
mean
like
a
which
was
envisioned
as
a
retail
space
of
some
sort
that
is
facing
out
onto
california
a
little
bit
to
the
east
of
this.
But
before
you
get
to
the
movie
theater-
and
you
know-
I
mean
in
some
of
the
diagrams
that
we
saw
from
merlot
and
guy
or
phase
2.
A
You
know
there
was
the
idea
that
there
would
be
some
village
market
in
there,
but
I'm
just
wondering
you
know.
I
know
that
you've
had
some
challenges
in
leasing
space
out
due
to
coveton,
also
due
to
delays
and
the
construction
of
various
parts
of
the
project.
But
can
you
give
me
an
idea
what
you're
current
thinking
about?
What's
going
in
there?
What
kind
of
use.
M
Yes,
you
know
look
at
looking
at
that
space,
that
space
is
kind
of
unique
in
the
fact
that
it
has
high
ceiling
heights.
There's
the
inch
there's
the
roll-up
doors,
there's
a
potential
outside
area
behind
the
space
over
there
and
we've
looked
at
a
number
of
different
uses.
M
Ultimately,
where
that
space
sits
in
the
project,
what's
intriguing
about
the
space
is
there's
both
the
option
for
interior
entrance
into
the
actual
parking
garage
into
the
space
or
exterior?
And
so
you
know
what
we've
always
looked
at:
that
space
is
some
kind
of
potential
either
capstone
restaurant
space.
That
would
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
public
gathering
area.
You
know:
we've
gone
down
the
path
of
looking
at
different
types
of
markets
or
our
smaller
groups
that
you
know
pre-covered
we're.
M
Looking
at
things
like
you
know,
how
would
you
put
it
the
the
market
hall
type
type
uses
that
would
kind
of
fit
back
there.
You
know,
I
think
that
space
is
going
to
you
know
potentially
evolve.
You
know:
we've
looked
at
it
for
potential
of
a
fitness
to
engage
the
inside
outside
as
well
too,
to
take
advantage
of
how
that
space
is
set
situated.
But
you
know
one
of
the
things
with
this
type
of
projects
that
we've
kind
of
you
know.
M
I
I've
seen
working
on
these
projects
for
over
15
years
is
that
you
know
really
they
kind
of
evolve
organically,
and
you
know,
we've
got
some
strategic
spaces
in
phase
two
that
we've
really
focused
on
corners
to
kind
of
bring
traffic
to
the
project.
That's
kind
of
one
of
those
things
that
you
know.
The
best
analogy
I
have
is
that
you
know
these
projects.
M
Aren't
you
put
them
down
on
a
piece
of
paper
and
everybody
rushes
in
it's
more
of
the
lines
of
now
you
craft
a
small
snowball
and
kind
of
slowly
work
it
down
the
hill,
and
everyone
turns
back
around
in
a
period
of
time
and
goes
wow.
That
thing
is
a
massive
snowball
coming
down
the
hill
and
what
a
great
project,
but
they
kind
of
forgot
the
first
beginning
part
of
that
kind
of
curating
the
asset
to
get
to
that
next
phase.
M
So,
that's
that's
why
we
kind
of
envisioned
to
get
into
that
space,
but
what
we
kind
of
vision,
this
space
to
be
also
as
well.
That
makes
sense.
A
Yep
another
question:
just
you
know,
thinking
back
on
merlot
and
guy
or
phase
two
I
mean
you
know.
We
had
talked
about
with
respect
to
the
parking
garage
that
you
know
that
there
be
some
creative
way
of
screening
the
parking
garage,
and
I
think
you
know
when
I
go
when
I
go
by
there.
I
see
that
you
know
you
have
kind
of
like
the
the
wavy
metal
pattern.
A
You
know
that's
there,
but
at
one
point
we
had
talked
about
you
know
having
some
greenery
in
there
and
I'm
just
wondering
whether
or
not
you
know
what
was
it
that
caused.
You
know
that
not
to
happen
was
it
just
that
it
wasn't
really
that
doable
a
proposal
or
it
was
because
of
the
drought
or
it
was
you
know,
just
something
else.
You
know
going
forward
just
wondering
you
know
about
those
kinds
of
ideas,
whether
we.
I
We
went
back
and
forth
with
many
options
that,
as
rebecca
probably
remembers,
we
had
a
lot
of
different
options.
We
looked
at
for
screen
of
that
structure
and
we
landed
on
the
fin
design
as
something
that
was
not
only
unique,
but
it
offered
different
views
during
the
time
of
day.
It
seemed
very
almost
kinetic
the
way
the
shadows
played
on
it
and
it
was
always
it
was
interesting
to
look
at
and
we
think
ultimate
did
a
really
good
job
of
screening.
The
parking
structure
for
as
large
as
it
was.
I
We
did
look
at
some
green
options
earlier.
I
don't
think
they
were
rejected
for
any
reason.
Besides,
we
thought
that
the
finn
concept
was
just
superior
and
and
and
we're
to
be
quite
quite
happy
with
the
way
it
turned
out
in
terms
of
the
functionality
that
it
does
and
then
and
what
it
achieved.
So
I
I
don't
think
it
was
just.
I
don't
think.
Greenery
was
described
for
the
other
reason
that
we
just
thought
that
the
current
design
was
superior.
A
Okay,
let's
see
and
just
one
overall
question
in
terms
of
the
whole
process
here,
it
seems
like
this
for
the
footprint
of
this
project.
It's
consuming
a
lot
of
I
mean
it.
It
sounds
like
it's
a
very.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
challenges.
Let's
put
it
that
way
in
terms
of
you
know,
getting
it
exactly
right
and
I'm
you
know,
I
mean
because
it's
going
through
a
number
of
iterations
with
the
drc,
it
went
through
several
sessions
of
council
and
you
know
it's
coming
back
early
to
iowa
says
the
study
session
and
I'm
just
wondering
from
the
developers
perspective
what
has
been
the
most
challenging
thing
for
you
in
terms
of
putting
together
a
feasible
project
here.
I
Far
has
been
trying
to
is
everyone
seemed
to
have
a
different
design
idea
on
what
this
building
should
look
like
and
and
trying
to
coalesce
all
those
different
opinions
into
a
design
that
everyone
is
pleased
with,
has
probably
been
one
of
our
biggest
challenges,
working
with
materiality
and
with
gensler,
and
then
they've
been
excellent
and
listening
to
everyone's
opinions
and
comments
and
working
with
the
planning
staff
in
dfc.
I
But
I
would
say,
our
biggest
challenge
today
has
been
trying
to
which
I
think
we're
meeting
is-
is
trying
to
provide
a
high
level
of
design
that
meets
the
expectation
of
everyone
in
the
city
of
mountain
view.
We're
going
to
get
there,
but
I
think
that's
been
one
of
our
greatest
challenges.
A
Okay,
that's
it
for
my
questions.
Do
commissioners
have
any
other
questions
before
we
make
our
final
comments
for
this
study
session.
A
All
right,
then
I'll,
take
it
back
to
the
commission
for
any
final
statement
on
the
project.
At
this
point,
we're
not
taking
a
vote,
it's
not
a
public
hearing,
but
if
anyone
wants
to
summarize
what
they
think
in
general,
what
they
think
are
the
most
important
feedbacks
to
the
developer
and
staff.
L
I
can
kick
off,
I
I
thought
I
mean.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
this
evening.
Presenting
this
to
us,
I
personally
would
love
to
see
just
kind
of
continued
work
with
the
drc
and
with
counseling,
with
all
the
different
stakeholders,
making
this
project
as
pedestrian
and
bicycle
friendly
as
possible.
L
In
terms
of
right
the
space
itself.
I
am
no
expert,
but
any
green
greenery
that
can
can
be
included,
and
I
thought
that
that
at
some
point
art
installations
came
up,
and
I
thought
I
think
that
where
art
is
done
well
on
buildings,
it
can
be
really
attractive
and
really
enhance
the
area
for
pedestrians
and
for
people,
people
on
the
ground
level.
So
that
would
be
another
consideration.
L
Let's
see
yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
just
continued
looking
at
how
this
project
will
fit
in.
I
know
it's
quite
a
bit
taller
than
the
surrounding
buildings
in
my
head.
I
have
a
difficult
time
like
envisioning
right
if
this
project,
I
believe
it's
just
over
100
feet
in
comparison
with,
maybe
a
60-foot
building
next
to
it
or
an
80-foot
building,
next
to
it
right
how
that
transition
will
work
yeah.
D
Thank
you
yes
for
giving
this
presentation.
I
appreciate
a
lot
of
what
you
guys
have
done
and
that
you're
willing
to
work
with
drc
and
everyone
else
to
try
to
gain
what
everyone
is
pushing
for.
I
know
it's
a
challenging
site.
I
understand
what
the
los
altos
school
district
tdr.
It
makes
it
all
the
more
challenging
to
try
to
get
the
extra
square
footage
in
and
understanding
that
challenge.
D
I
am
still
a
little
bit
disappointed
that
we
can't
get
some
of
the
setbacks
up
at
the
higher
levels,
but
I
understand
why
I
just
it's:
it's
just
a
little
bit.
You
know
still
disappointing,
but
given
that
this
is
a
corner
building,
I
can
see
the
exception
a
bit.
D
It's
a
it's
a
prominent
corner
and
if
it
is
a
little
bit
taller
it's
okay.
On
my
end
personally,
I
will
reiterate
that
how
all
the
planters
and
greenery
and
the
open
spaces
designed
will
greatly
affect
how
it's
used.
D
It's
you
know
same
as
designing
the
building.
It's
just
outdoor
space,
and
so
that
design
is
is
key.
I
think
to
the
usability
of
all
that
public
space
and
because
we
are
trying
to
create
a
more
walkable
likable
place.
I
think
we
just
need
to
spend
extra
effort
in
the
design
of
those
things
and
making
it
such
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible
to
keep
the
same
level
as
the
sidewalk
we
discussed
earlier.
D
D
I'm
just
thinking
how
to
make
the
walkable
pedestrian
area
along
california,
the
sidewalk
feel
as
open
and
connected
to
the
building
as
possible.
Once
you
do
steps
down,
then
you're
kind
of
dividing
that
public
space
in
half
and
it's
two
linear
corridors,
and
so
that's
just
one
thought
I
don't
know
if
it's
doable
just
putting
it
out
there.
D
I
do
like
the
warmer
colors,
the
more
feel
and
tone.
I
know
it's
sometimes
a
trick
and
I
don't
want
to
say
trick,
but
it's
a
when
you're
doing
the
drawings
to
green
it
up
and
sometimes
green
is
exaggerated
to
showcase
what
it
will
look
like
in
real
life.
D
O
F
Earlier
in
the
earlier
phases,
and
I'm
heartened
to
hear
that
there's
so
much
thought
going
into
the
promenade
and
the
bike
pedestrian
improvements
to
make
this
a
vibrant
area.
And
I.
B
F
For
kind
of
the
advanced
filled
out
so
that
the
parking
structure.
F
That'll
really
ease
circulation
in
and
out
of
the
project
for
vehicles,
so
I
am,
I
am
generally
in
support
of
british
parking,
particularly
in
areas
that
are
so
close
to
transit
like
this
the
site.
F
F
B
Things
but
yeah,
I
think
in
general.
This
is
heading
in
the
right
direction
and
I
appreciate
the
early
view.
F
I
echo
what
my
fellow
commissioners
have
said
earlier.
I
don't
really
have
much
more
to
add
to
that,
but
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
for
us
to
provide
early
input.
This
is
a
very
important
site
for
the
mountain
community,
so
I
look
forward
to
the
continued
collaboration
between
the
developer
and
city
staff
and
look
forward
to
more
improvement
in
the
design,
so
that
this
you
know,
turns
out
to
be
a
really
great
addition
to
our
city.
C
I
think
we're
asking
you
to
make
this
a
place
making
area
for
our
community
so
we'll
we'll
encourage
people
to
gather
in
the
area
and
so
we're
asking
of
that,
and
I
think
that's
why
all
of
the
greenery
requests
and
have
it
to
be
the
colors
and
have
it
be
very
comfortable
and
welcoming,
and
so
that's
a
huge
demand.
So
I
think
seeing
this
in
the
study
portion
of
the
proposals
has
been
really
good
and
I
think
going
back
to
the
drc,
and
you
know,
with
the
staff's
help.
C
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
the
next
steps
will
be.
I
think
that
the
the
heights
and-
and
the
you
know,
exceptions
in
this
sort
of
thing
are-
are
some
that
are
really
hard
to
give
back
to
you
after
we
have
been
working
on
the
san
antonio
precise
plan
and
looking
for
what
we
envisioned
would
be
a
very
excellent
gathering
place
for
the
community
and
really
in
a
place
where
we
needed
that,
because
it
was
not
there
before.
So
I
think
we're
asking
a
lot.
C
I
think
this
is
why
you're
seeing
we
want
protected
bike
lanes
and
we
want
to
open
green
area,
and
we
want,
you
know,
setbacks
and
this
sort
of
thing.
It's
it's
a
lot
to
ask
so
appreciate
your
creativity
and
you're
working
with
the
drc
and
the
staff
to
bring
us
back
with
your
most
excellent
efforts
to
make
this
something
that
we'll
all
be
proud
of.
A
A
It
provides
the
the
trds
that
we
need
to
provide
a
llama
sd,
school
and
mountain
view
on
this
property,
and
so
I
understand
that
with
that
come
challenges
and
I'm
very
encouraged
with
what
I
perceive
to
be
a
a
positive
collaborative
working
relationship
between
staff,
the
drc
and
the
applicant
on
this
project.
A
I
was
very
concerned
when
I
first
saw
the
staff
report,
because
the
last
time
I
had
seen
a
staff
report
like
that
it
was
on
a
project
where
I
mean
it
basically
came
down
to
the
applicant
is
saying
this
and
staff
is
saying
this:
okay,
you
guys
you
choose
and
I'm
real
glad
to
see.
That's
not
what's
happening
here.
You
know
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
positive
collaborative
experience
and
I
mean
you
know:
there's
an
openness
and
a
creativity
on
the
part
of
the
developer
to
respond
to
what
we
as
a
community
want.
A
What
staff
understands
is
good
and
what
the
drc
understands
is.
Aesthetic,
so
you
know
I'm
very
happy
about
that.
The
the
biggest
concern
that
I
have
is
about
whether
or
not
the
actual
vision
that
we
had
for
merlon
geyer
phase.
Two
I
mean
is
going
to
get
finally
built
and
realized.
I
guess
is
a
better
way
of
putting
it.
A
I
mean,
there's
been
a
lot
of
bumps
along
the
way
I
mean
you
know
before
kovid
I
you
know
I
discussed
with
staff
in
the
meeting
that
I
had
before
this
one
about
what
it
was
that
was
keeping
that
from
happening
pre-covet
and
what
the
feedback
I
got
was
that
they
had
talked
to
the
developer
and
the
developer
had
said.
A
Well,
you
know
there
was
a
delay
in
in
some
of
the
building
and
because
of
that
that,
with
the
construction
still
going
on,
it
wasn't
as
easy
to
lease
everything
up
all
at
the
same
time
and
then
and
then
covet
hit,
and
you
know
I
mean
that
that
changed
everything
in
a
dramatic
way,
and
so
I
mean
you
know
I
went
down
to
the
site
on
sunday
and
it
was
like
you
know
I
walking
around.
You
know
a
lot
of
outdoor
furniture,
one
guy
that
looked
like.
Maybe
he
was
homeless.
A
A
We
see
you
know
community,
we
see
collaboration,
you
know
we,
we
see
an
area
that
people
want
to
come
to
walk,
bicycle
or
drive
to,
and
you
know,
and
the
key
thing
is
when
graystar
is
done
at
the
end
of
2022,
I
mean
you
know,
this
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
key
places
that
people
in
mountain
view
want
to
be,
and
also
since
it's
been
a
regional
center
for
retail.
You
know
throughout
the
area
that
it
continues
to
be
that
you
know
we
brought
in
when
this
whole
thing
started.
A
The
phase
two
we
brought
in
a
special
consultant
I
and
that
consultant,
talked
about
the
idea
of
place
making,
and
you
know
I
mean
I
think
a
lot
of
things
have
been
done
on
the
project.
Up
to
this
point,
to
help
you
know
achieve
that.
You
know,
particularly
in
to
my
heart,
is
the
silicon
structure
that
you
guys
put
up.
You
know
I
mean
when
my
when
my
cousin
came
here
to
visit
from
wisconsin.
A
You
know
she
had
asked
me
well,
what's
notable
about
mountain
view
that
you
want
to
show
me.
I've
got
a
few
hours
and
one
of
the
things
I
absolutely
included
was
coming
down
and
she
took
a
picture
of
you
know
herself
standing
in
front
of
the
silicon
structure
and
you
know
put
it
out
on
facebook
and
said:
hey
all
you,
facebook,
friends,
I'm
out
in
front
of
facebook
at
the
at
the
facebook.
A
You
know
I
mean
sculpture
here,
so
I
mean
you
know,
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
know
I
mean,
like
you
know,
you're,
making
a
site
that
I
mean
you
know
is
on
the
par
with
you
know
the
android
sculptures
up
by
google
or
you
know,
or
the
the
finger
up
you
know
at
facebook
and
menlo
park.
That
makes
it
a
makes
it
a
place
that
you
know
people
from
outside,
but
also
people
in
the
community
can
come
and
enjoy.
A
So
keep
that
vision
in
mind
as
we
go
forward
and
in
two
years
I'm
hoping
you
know
I'll
be
one
of
those
people
who's
also
sitting
there
and
spending
a
lot
of
time
enjoying
it
and
a
key
thing
to
being
able
to
do.
That
is
ground
floor
retail
I
mean
you
know,
I
mean
I'm
always
nervous
about
it
because
of
the
bad
experiences
that
I've
had
in
downtown
mountain
view.
A
When
I
worked
on
development
projects,
you
know
as
hosting
them
as
the
vice
chair
of
our
neighborhood
association,
two
projects
in
particular
bryant
park
plaza
and
the
quora
building
you
know
were
promised
as
going
to
be
centers
of
ground
floor,
retail
and
community
building,
and
they
didn't
turn
out
as
that
at
all,
and
I
really
wouldn't
want
that
to
happen
here
either.
A
So
so
anyway,
on
the
parking
yeah,
I
mean,
if
you
know,
if,
if
you
do
the
right
studies
and
diligence,
I
think
that
can
work
out
fine,
but
I
think
when
I
won't
be
on
the
commission
when
that
comes
back,
but
you
know
I
I
I
I
ask
the
other
members
of
the
commission
to
pick
up
that
role
of
parking
czar.
You
know
that
I've
done
during
the
eight
years
that
I've
been
here,
so
I
have
only
one
more
question
back
to
staff.
There
were
two
staff
questions
that
you
had.
F
Well,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
just
summarize
what
I've
heard
and
responsible
questions
and
then,
if
I've
missed
anything,
then
we
can
go
from
there
and
add
that
contribution.
F
So,
in
general,
I've
heard
from
pretty
much
everybody
that
the
epc
is
supportive
of
the
drc
and
staff
comments
with
the
addition
from
several
epc
members
that
we'd
like
to
work
further
on
circulation
for
pedestrian
and
bikes,
not
just
through
the
san
antonio
projects
but
interest
in
improvements
on
the
public
roadways,
if
possible.
F
F
Artwork
we've
heard
from
several
people
that
we'd
like
to
look
into
historically
significant
artwork
at
that
corner
and
showcase
the
history
of
the
site
and
area
in
mountain
view,
and
then
I
also
heard
that
there
aren't
any
issues
with
the
proposed
parking
plan,
but
obviously
the
epc
wants
all
the
appropriate
studies
done
and
justification
to
back
up
the
parking
reduction.
F
I
believe
that's
a
basic
summary
of
what
I've
heard
if
I've
missed
anything.
If
anyone
had
anything
additional
to
have
now
would
be
a
good
time
to
do
that.
C
I'd
like
to
get
further
clarification
of
the
exceptions
that
have
been
requested
from
the
you
know,
san
antonio
precise
plan.
I
think
there
you
know,
is
there
any
negotiable,
wiggle
room
there?
I
understand
that
the
tdr
seems
to
be
forefront
in
the
negotiations
here,
and
you
know
we
wanted
to
make
sure
what
what
are
the?
C
What
are
our
options
with
accommodating
that?
Do
we
have
any
or
are
we
just
you
know,
is
that
a
foregone
conclusion
so
just
wanted
to
know
how
we
have
any
negotiable
options
at
all
on
the
exceptions
that
have
been
requested.
So
I
know
we're
in
a
study
sessions
and
it's
kind
of
early
on
to
really
make
have
any
answers
to
that.
But
I
would
like
to
just
make
a
public
concern
that
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
address
that
as
well.
F
Yes,
and
definitely
where
we
can
take
that
into
account,
especially,
is
understanding
the
areas
of
interest
to
the
epc.
So
it
seems
that
there's
a
lot
of
focus
on
california
and
san
antonio
and
concerns
over
the
setbacks
there.
That
might
be
decreased
from
the
quantitative
or
qualitative
standards
and
the
precise
plan.
And
while,
as
you
mentioned,
there
are
some
limitations
and
strengths
on
this
site
with
the
tdrs,
we
will
focus
our
efforts
on
designing
those
areas
to
make
sure
that
they
are
pedestrian
friendly
and
comfortable.
C
Okay
and
one
one
last
thing:
are
there
any
possibilities
for
public
benefits
or
is
the
tdr
considered
a
public
benefit.
F
C
Okay,
because
I
think
the
accessibility
to
the
transit
is
is
really
critical
here
and
I
think
we've
needed
that
in
this
area
for
some
time
so
just
wanted
to
kind
of
make
a
note
in
that.
Thank
you.
A
Okay
and
commissioner,
yemen.
D
Oh
I'll
be
very
brief.
This
is
a
quick
one
and
it
may
be
an
easy
one.
I'm
hoping
someone
had
noted
trees
and
the
fact
that
there
are
some
large,
mature
trees
on
site,
given
the
design
and
the
underground
parking.
I
know
that
they
cannot
be
saved.
However,
if
we
can
move
them
relocate
them.
D
I
have
a
recommendation,
a
suggestion
to
relocate
them
in
the
park.
That
is
opposite
the
dog
park.
It's
the
entry
park
into
the
san
antonio
complex,
it's
just
an
open
green
space
and
I
think
it
would
be
really
nice
to
put
some
of
those
mature
trees
there
in
the
summer
it's
shady
place
to
sit
and
it
offsets
and
balances
the
openness
of
the
dog
park.
So
it's
almost
like
a
you
know.
H
H
Yeah,
the
san
francisco
public
utility
commission
governs
that
that
land
area
and
specifically
prohibits
the
planting
of
trees
within
the
right
of
way
that
the
the
the
water
line
runs.
So
it's
it's,
unfortunately,
a
a
sad
constraint
on
the
design
of
that
space.
D
A
Right,
yeah
I'll
make
one
final
comment
and
that
you
know
I
I
really
like
watching
the
activity
in
the
dog
park
and
you
know
to
me
you
know
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
had
about.
You
know
merlon,
guy
or
phase
three
was
there.
Were
you
know
a
number
of
places
like
around
the
safeway
and
around
you
know
the
the
restaurants
they
were
facing,
or
at
least
on
the
corner
of
el
camino
in
san
antonio.
You
know
there
are
places
for
people
to
sit
out
there,
but
they
weren't
being
used.
A
But
the
main
thing
that
that
I
like
about
the
dog
park
is
I
see
that
it's
always
being
used
and
it's
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
communities.
So
thanks
for
that
idea,
all
right,
commissioner,
lowe.
F
I
did
not
know
that
that
the
dock
park
we
could
not
plant
trees.
So
I'm
glad
to
understand
why
so,
given
that,
I
think
it's
even
more
critical
to
look
for
more
opportunities
to
bring
in
more
canopy
coverage
to
this
area
is
so
dense.
The
public
health
benefits
that
tree
bring,
as
you
know,
as
well
as
the
ecological
and
environmental
benefits.
Are.
You
know
so
great
that
yeah?
A
B
F
Thank
you,
chair
cox,
good
evening.
Everyone
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
let
the
epc
know
that
actually
this
evening
is
my
last
night
sitting
with
the
epc
as
council.
I'm
not
going
anywhere,
I'm
still
with
the
city,
but
we
have
a
new
senior
assistant
city
attorney
who
joined
our
office
on
monday.
Actually,
sandy
lee
and
she's
a
very
experienced
municipal
law
attorney
and
she
has
planning
and
land
use
experience
and
also
experience
sitting
with
other
planning
commissions.
F
So
she
is
going
to
be
taking
over
the
role
as
counsel
to
the
epc
and
she
is
actually
she
has
been
watching
the
meeting
I
see
she's
been
promoted
here
so
up
there
she
is.
I
was
going
to
introduce
her
to
you
and
let
you
know
that
you
guys
are
in
very
good
hands
with
her
beginning
on
december,
2nd
she'll
be
she'll,
be
sitting
with
you
guys,
and
I
also
before
actually
introducing
her
there.
F
That's
awesome
to
say
that
I've
very
much
enjoyed
the
opportunity
of
sitting
with
you
all
and
I've
learned
a
lot,
and
I
appreciate
the
service
that
you
guys
do
for
the
community
as
well.
So
with
that,
I
see
sandy
over
there,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
put
her
on
the
spot
or
anything
I
don't
know
if
she
wants
to
say
anything
or.
O
Where
is
she
from
yeah?
I
just
wanted
to
say
hello,
and
I
I
have
I'm
coming
from
the
city
of
palo
alto
and
prior
to
that.
I
worked
for
a
long
period
of
time
for
the
city
of
san
jose
and
in
both
cities.
O
I
worked
with
the
planning
department
and
I
have
staffed
the
planning
commission
in
both
cities
also
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
this
commission,
and
I
I've
been
impressed
with
kind
of
the
the
the
dialogue
and
the
thoughtful
questions
on
this
item
and
I'm
happy
to
be
here
on
the
third
day
of
my
time.
A
So
moving
on
eric,
do
you
have
any
announcements
about
our
next
item.
P
Well
so
yeah,
I
can
talk
about
next
december,
2nd
we
do.
We
do
have
the
retreat
scheduled.
As
I
said
last
time,
we're
gonna
have
a
little
discussion
with
our
consulting
outside
consulting
attorney
who's
kind
of
a
pro
with
state
legislation.
P
We
also
kind
of
have
a
discussion
about
just
kind
of
lessons
learned
from
from
past
meetings
and
ways
to
get
the
best
out
of
you
all,
and
so
that
you
can
feel
like
you're
you're,
making
the
difference
that
you
want
to
make.
So
that
is
the
goal
for
that.
We
also
have
a
very
minor
item.
We
have
a
kind
of
set
of
minor
cleanup
amendments
to
the
general
plan
and
the
zoning
map
that
we're
going
to
bring
forward
kind
of
consistency
and
cleanup
stuff.
P
I
also
wanted
to
announce
that
council
did
interview
two
new
epc
members
or
two
applicants
for
the
one
seat
that
chair
cox
will
be
vacating
turned
out
from
yesterday,
and
they
indicated
their
preference
for
a
man
named
hank
dempsey,
who
has
a
lot
of
legislative
experience,
and
so
that
will
become
official
at
an
upcoming
council
meeting
when
they
will
officially
appoint
him.
P
So
both
applicants
were
highly
praised
by
the
council
and
they
both
had
a
lot
to
offer,
and
so
you
all
get
to
meet
him
at
an
upcoming
meeting.
Obviously-
and
that's
all
I
have
for
my
announcements.
A
Well,
not
all
since
I
won't
be
here
anyway.
Thank
you
for
that.
Eric
are
there,
commissioners
who
would
like
to
report
or
make
announcements.
B
Sure,
just
one
briefly,
and
I
am
actually
taking
a
different
role
at
stanford
and
starting
a
week,
I'm
going
to
be
helping
the
university
launch
a
new
office
of
community
engagement,
which
is
focused
on
a
lot
of
the
topics
that
we
and
talking
about
here,
land
use
and
planning,
but
really
trying
to
think
about
how
stanford
can
be
a
more
proactive
player
and
bringing
students
and
faculty
to
regional
issues.
Around
sustainability,
affordability,.
B
A
All
right,
I
have
a
few
announcements.
Oh
commissioner,
yen.
A
Okay,
so
here
my
announcements
are
these.
I
had
mentioned
before,
at
the
november
meeting
the
mountain
view,
historical
association,
that
our
former
epc,
chair,
pam
baird,
had
was
going
to
do
and
she
has
done
a
presentation
commemorating
the
100th
year
of
women's
suffrage
and
with
particular
emphasis
on
california's
role
in
passing
the
suffrage
for
women
earlier
than
1920
and
1911..
A
So
I
learned
some
important
facts.
I
mean
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
surprised
me
in
her
presentation
was
that
san
francisco
was
one
of
the
big
holdouts
against
women's
suffrage.
So
I
mean
you
know.
Certainly
the
city
has
a
much
more
progressive
image
now
and
times
have
changed.
The
other
thing
that
happened
at
that
meeting
was
that
pam
was
elected.
The
president
of
the
mountain
view,
historical
association
for
a
two-year
term,
and
I
was
re-elected
as
vice
president
nick
perry-
will
serve
in
an
official
capacity
as
past
president.
A
That's
that's
actually
a
board
member
position
of
the
historical
association
so
we'll
have
the
continuing
benefit
of
his
presence
there.
As
one
of
the
key
historians
of
mountain
view,
I
attended
a
meeting
of
liverpool
california.
Last
saturday,
there
was
a
very
interesting
speaker
who
is
a
wall
street
journal
reporter
and
book
author.
A
So
you
know,
I
think,
if
I
get
some
time
over
the
break,
I'm
gonna
pick
up
a
copy
and
read
through
it.
I
mean
he
went
through
a
lot
of
the
very
interesting
changes
in
terms
of
you
know
like
with
you
know,
with
all
that
happens,
you
know
over
the
internet
and
consolidation
of
of
financial
instruments
and
that
kind
of
thing
you
know
the
idea
of
you
know:
investors
buying
up
and
targeting
single-family
homes.
You
know
for
investment
and
and
leasing
opportunities.
A
It's
something
that
wasn't
attempted
to
a
great
extent
in
the
past,
because
you
know
I
mean
the
way
that
he
put
it
was
you
know,
most
developers
of
large
apartment
complexes
would
say
it's
enough
trouble
to
try
to
manage.
You
know
a
few
hundred
people
under
one
roof.
I
mean.
How
would
you
why
would
you
want
to
try
to
manage
a
few
hundred
people
under
100
roofs?
But
actually
this
has
become
quite
doable.
You
know,
and
even
you
know,
I
mean
like
the
computerized
search
tools
that
are
used
to
identify.
A
You
know
which
markets
are
are.
Prime
for
the
investment
has,
you
know,
is
changing
the
scope
of
single
family,
home
ownership
and
renting
in
the
united
states.
So
I
I
recommend
either
getting
a
hold
of
the
lecture
or
reading
the
book
and
those
are
my
announcements
and
so,
if
there's
anything,
if
there's
not
anything
else,
then
I
think
I
can
go
on
to
item
number
seven
and
I
will
adjourn
the
meeting
at
9
16
p.m
until
december,
2nd
2020.