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From YouTube: July 25, 2022 R3 Update Workshop – Moffett/Whisman Road
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A
A
This
meeting
of
the
r3
update
is
regarding
the
moffat
whizman
road
neighborhood,
thanks
again
for
coming.
A
First,
we'll
get
some
technical
details
out
of
the
way
tonight
we
have
interpretation
in
chinese.
We
do
not
have
interpretation
in
spanish,
however
interpretation
during
the
presentation
in
spanish.
However,
we
do
have
spanish
speakers,
and
so,
if
you
would
like
to
provide
input
in
spanish
during
the
breakout
sessions,
we
can
accommodate
that.
A
So
first
I'll
take
a
moment
to
let
our
interpreters
direct
people
to
the
language
channels
for
chinese
and
to
let
people
know
know
what
spanish
services
are
available
tonight.
So
ivy
or
eileen
don't
know
who's
going
to
be.
Okay,.
A
B
Yeah,
thank
you
eric
how
thank.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
martine.
Can
you
let
our
spanish
folks
know
what
is
available
tonight
sure.
C
A
So
please
keep
yourself
muted.
During
the
presentation.
We
will
have
an
opportunity
for
q
a
afterward.
Please
use
the
reaction
raise
hand
tool
if
you
want
to
ask
a
question
at
that
time,
if
you're
calling
in
you
can
raise
your
hand
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
using
star9
and
we'll
answer
your
questions
after
the
presentation,
we'll
have
group
discussions
to
talk
about
some
key
questions.
A
The
purpose
of
tonight's
meeting
is
to
get
input
on
the
r3
zoning
update.
This
project
is
an
action
in
the
council's
strategic
roadmap,
part
of
a
priority
to
help
create
housing
options
in
the
city.
This
meeting
is
focused
on
the
moffett
lisbon
neighborhood.
Future
workshops
will
focus
on
other
neighborhoods.
A
Tonight's
workshop
will
include
three
parts,
a
presentation
overview
of
where
we've
been
with
the
project
and
some
options
for
where
we
can
go,
then
we
will
go
into
breakout
groups
to
hear
from
each
other
and
each
of
you
about
all
your
thoughts
on
each
auction.
And,
lastly,
there
will
be
a
report
back.
A
The
r3
zoning
update
is
only
part
of
the
city's
interconnected
housing
programs.
In
addition,
the
city
is
preparing
the
housing
element,
which
is
a
state
requirement
to
plan
for
more
housing
and
to
address
housing.
Equity
council
direction
was
to
not
rely
on
this
r3
zoning
update
to
accommodate
those
units.
A
D
A
A
A
R3
is
one
of
the
city's
standard
zoning
districts
and
is
intended
for
a
broad
range
of
residential
development
types.
It
covers
much
of
the
city
and
almost
all
the
neighborhoods
with
multi-family
row
house
and
hoa
developments.
The
r3
zone
regulates
development
through
standards
which
new
buildings
need
to
comply
with.
One
of
these
standards
is
maximum
density,
which
can
vary
across
the
r3
zone
depending
on
the
neighborhood.
A
Other
standards
include
a
three-story
height
limit
and
limits
on
floor
area
ratio,
which
is
the
size
of
buildings
compared
to
the
size
of
the
lot
setbacks
and
minimum
open
area.
These
do
not
vary
across
the
r3
zone.
Recently,
almost
all
development
has
led
to
expensive,
rowhum
rohms,
a
few
recent
examples
of
which
are
shown
here.
A
A
So
why
update
the
zoning?
As
I
stated
earlier,
the
city
council
has
a
goal
to
increase
housing
options
in
the
city
and
the
r3
zoning
update
is
a
key
part
of
that
effort.
The
city
is
looking
into
a
form-based
approach.
This
means
that
the
standards
focus
on
the
form
of
the
building
rather
than
its
contents.
A
For
example,
a
building
with
more
small
units
would
be
treated
the
same
as
a
building
with
fewer
large
units.
This
has
several
benefits.
The
current
framework
of
densities
do
not
address
neighborhood
conditions.
Through
a
zoning
code
update,
we
can
locate
higher
densities
in
your
transit
or
services
and
modulate
character.
Defining
standards
like
far
and
setbacks
in
open
area
to
reflect
changes
in
density
changes
to
standards
can
also
help
create
a
broader
range
of
unit
types,
including
more
stacked
flats,
which
can
be
relatively
more
affordable
than
row,
homes
and
other
product
types.
A
Lastly,
with
a
form-based
approach,
and
by
calibrating
standards
to
each
other,
we
can
create
more
flexibility
while
simultaneously
creating
more
predictability
at
streamlining
the
approval
process.
It
also
needs
to
be
noted
that
there
is
a
state
law.
In
effect,
that
says
that
we
cannot
reduce
residential
density
or
increase
constraints
on
density,
some
growth
can
occur
and
your
input
can
help
inform
how
much.
A
A
E
A
And
here
are
the
results
we
got
about.
15
renters
in
the
neighborhood
70
are
homeowners
in
the
neighborhood
good,
showing
there
and
a
few
more
people
who
own
property
but
don't
live
in
the
neighborhood.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
on
that
poll.
A
A
That
framework
really
looked
at
maximizing
development
potential.
It
looked
the
characteristics
of
each
site
and
analyzed
how
large
a
building
the
site
could
feasibly
accommodate.
In
addition,
there
was
analysis
of
how
many
existing
units
could
be
replaced
at
rents
or
sales
prices
affordable
to
those
living
there
today.
A
As
a
result,
the
framework
presented
last
year
had
buildings
from
three
up
to
six
stories
and
upon
review
the
city
council
directed
staff
to
go
back
out
and
get
more
input
from
the
community
about
these
office.
This
framework,
now
earlier
this
year,
we
went
out
and
talked
to
a
few
different
stakeholder
groups
had
some
informal
conversations
and
we
heard
a
few
key
messages
about
their
perceptions
of
the
r3
project.
A
A
People
were
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
city
was
reflecting
all
opinions
and
not
having
the
downsides
and,
of
course,
to
protect
people
from
displacement
and
rent
increases.
A
This
slide
summarizes
the
growth
framework
from
2020
that
I
talked
about.
It
included
these
subdistricts,
ranging
from
two
up
to
six
stories.
The
two-story
sub-district
focused
on
areas
with
small
parcels
and
no
three-story
buildings
in
the
vicinity.
The
three
and
four-story
sub-districts
were
in
areas
with
a
mix
of
different
surrounding
building
sizes
and
parcels.
A
Rather
than
focusing
on
differences
in
height,
we
could
focuses
focus
on
differences
in
scale
or
character.
An
alternative
framework
could
have
lower
intensity
districts
that
would
be
more
house
scale
and
higher
intensity
districts
that
could
be
more
block
scale.
These
are
some
alternative
districts.
As
you
can
see,
these
images
show
how
buildings
can
be
more
massive,
including
more
width
and
fewer
space
between
adjacent
buildings
at
the
higher
sub-districts.
A
Without
increasing
height
later
in
the
presentation,
we
will
look
at
a
map
of
where
these
districts
could
go
and
during
your
breakout
rooms,
you
can
respond
to
these
pictures.
Is
there
anything
you
like
about
these
buildings
or
things
you
don't
like?
Are
there
locations
where
some
of
these
buildings
might
be
appropriate,
or
even
some
of
the
previous
frameworks,
buildings.
A
So
we
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
transitions
of
height
and
scale
to
existing
neighborhoods.
These
pictures
show
how
smaller
building
scales,
including
height
width
and
depth,
can
help
big
buildings
better
fit
into
the
community,
despite
small
setbacks
and
three
or
four
story
to
one
or
two
story:
transitions.
A
A
A
A
As
I
said
earlier,
the
2020
growth
framework
essentially
maximized
development
capacity.
The
new
alternative
map
would
focus
development
capacity,
increases
in
strategic
locations
resulting
in
smaller
increase
to
overall
development
capacity
in
the
r3
zone.
In
addition,
r1
and
r2
neighborhoods
are
only
adjacent
to
r3a
or
r3b.
The
lower
intensity
sub
zones
at
the
same
time
we're
targeting
higher
intensities
to
key
destinations
like
transient
services.
A
On
the
other
hand,
the
2020
approach
map
had
more
different
zones
throughout
the
moffat
wisman
area.
You
can
see,
there's
a
small
amount
of
six
story,
areas
along
middle
field,
road
near
85
and
around
the
mobile
home
park
on
moffitt
boulevard.
A
A
We
will
be
asking
you
in
the
break
rooms
to
break
out
rooms
to
weigh
in
on
these
two
maps.
You
can
be
thinking
about
whether
we
should
change
any
of
the
locations
of
subzones
or
any
of
the
previous
sub
zones,
a
good
idea
anywhere,
where
are
transitions
important?
Where
would
neighborhood
serving
commercials.
A
A
Where
should
pedestrian
bicycle
users
be
prioritized?
Where
would
you
support
allowing
small
neighborhood
serving
commercial
uses?
What
do
you
like
better
about
the
2022
map
or
the
2020
map,
and
what
other
ideas
do
you
have
and
in
closing
I'd
like
to
make
it
clear
that
this
is
not
an
all-or-nothing
approach?
Form-Based
principles,
neighborhood,
commercial
and
open
space
can
move
forward
with
the
2020
map
and
we
can
use
parts
of
the
2020
framework
and
parts
of
the
2022
framework.
A
Lastly,
you
may
have
other
ideas
that
we
haven't
thought
of
yet
so
that
really
concludes
our
presentation
before
we
go
our
breakout
groups
happy
to
take
any
questions,
maybe
for
the
next
eight
to
ten
minutes.
A
If
you
wanna,
if
you're
on
the
phone
and
you
wanna,
ask
a
question,
you
can
hit
star
nine.
If
you
are
just
in
the
normal
computer
app,
you
can
use
the
reaction
raise
hand,
button.
F
G
Thank
you.
I
was
just
looking
at
the
2022
map
and
wondering:
will
there
be
any
opportunities
for
a
building
as
high
as
six
stories
if
the
2022
map
was
adopted,
adopted.
A
So
a
great
question,
thank
you.
So,
as
I
said
before,
density
bonus
could
apply
and
there
could,
on
occasion
be
cases
where
a
density
bonus
project
could
be.
You
know
more
than
the
maximum
more
than
you
know,
four
or
five
stories.
A
It's
it's
hard
to
know
exactly
what
may
happen
with
the
density
bonus
project,
but
that
of
course
could
happen
today
under
r3
today.
So
under
the
the
current
framework,
we
would
set
a
base
density
maximum
in
the
r3a
areas
at
a
maximum
of
three
stories
in
that,
in
those
cases
the
density
bonus
would
apply.
On
top
of
that
amount.
H
Yes,
I'm
terry,
I
just
have
a
real
question
when
we
get
into
our
breakout
sessions,
are
we
going
to
have
larger
maps
so
that
we
can
really
see
more
detailed
information,
because
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see
them
in
those
small
maps.
A
Absolutely
yeah,
so
you'll
have
maps
that
you'll
be
able
to
zoom
in
on
with
your
team
leaders,
they'll
be
able
to
describe
them
in
more
detail
focus
in
on
them.
I
also
want
to
say
that,
shortly
after
this
workshop,
you'll
have
more
of
an
opportunity
to
provide
additional
comments.
We're
going
to
take
all
of
these
workshop
materials,
put
them
on
on
an
interactive
website
and
you'll
be
able
to
if
there's
something
that
you
didn't
understand
or
additional
comments
that
you
wanted
to
provide
you'll,
be
able
to
provide
comments
that
way.
I
I
A
We
are
absolutely
planning
on
doing
an
environmental
impact
report,
but
we
would
not
start
that
until
after
we've
gotten
council
confirmation
of
the
growth
strategy.
I
A
Okay,
if
you
want
to
email
me
with
a
link
to
what
you're
looking
at
you,
please
feel
free.
That
would
be
very,
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
D
I
had
a
question
there's
a
couple
of
really
large
tracks
in
this
area
that
are
already
being
built
out,
for
example,
77,
777,
west
middle
field
and
they're
already
going
up
to
five
stories
and
that's
projects
this
pro
I
mean
that
project
is
probably
around
for
the
next
50
years
right.
So
what
is
the
meaning
of
calling
that
an
r3
zone
when
it's
already
in
a
what
do
they
call
it
a
p
zone?
D
A
Sure
yeah,
you
know,
that's
that's
a
good
point
that
that
777
mill
field
is
colored
in
on
this
map,
and
that
is
that
is
a
typo
that
would
stay
as
a
p
zone,
and
so
I
think
we'll
have
to
when
we
update
the
maps
we'll
have
to
take
that
out.
But
because
we
are
updating
the
r3
zone
and
it
does
currently
apply
to
a
lot
of
sites
we
would
need
to.
A
D
F
Okay,
so
we
will
only
be
having
another
five
or
so
minutes
for
questions
at
this
time,
but
we'll
keep
having
the
option
to
ask
questions
as
we
go.
So
next
we'll
have
james
and
karen.
J
Catch,
maybe
the
reasoning
behind
the
proposal
to
shift
from
the
sort
of
proposal
for
zones
that
seem
to
correlate
largely
with
height
to
zones
that
correspond
to.
I
honestly
can't
tell
what,
if
that's
lock,
coverage
or
something
else,
especially
since
it
sound
likes
in
the
comments
or
about
wanting
more
greenery
in
open
space,
which
I
would
have
expected
to
correspond
to
one
team,
less
a
lot
coverage
and
more
height.
Maybe
I
just
wasn't
following
what
the
trade-offs
were
there?
Could
you
elaborate
more
on
that.
A
Well,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
one
of
the
questions
that
we
have
for
the
community
and
I
think
that's
a
great
comment
to
to
bring
to
your
group
about
those
trade-offs.
We
certainly
heard
concern
about
privacy
and
height
and,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
add
growth
capacity
without
adding
height,
then
certainly
coverage
would
is
another
option
to
do
so
and
then
yeah,
so
the
the
different
scales
would
potentially
have
more
or
less
coverage.
That's
a
good
observation,
although
that's
only
part
of
it.
A
I
think
that
kind
of
breaking
up
the
buildings
is
another
factor,
that's
your
irrespective
of
coverage,
but
I
also
think
that
it
also
represents
one
of
the
key
points
of
analysis
that
we
had
back
in
back
when
we
were
doing
the
financial
analysis
for
what's
really
constraining
r3
development
and
that's
that
the
open
area
standards
are
very
high
in
r3
and
potentially
very
constraining
on
new
development
and
so
by
looking
at
other
ways
that
buildings
can
be
configured
on
the
lot
by
and
and
using
kind
of
different
characteristics
of
of
buildings
to
help
them
fit
in
better
with
the
community.
K
A
So
there
are,
there,
aren't
any
commercial
buildings
in
r3
the
business,
the
commercial
buildings,
the
office
buildings
on
ellis
and
wisman
and
middlefield
are
are
in
the
east
wisman
precise
plan,
and
we
actually
about
two
or
three
years
ago
we
adopted
a
an
area
plan
for
that
which
is
now
the
guiding
document
for
development
in
that
area.
So
some
of
those
office
buildings
might
get
replaced
by
residential
under
that
precise
plan,
but
that's
a
different
project
this.
This
covers
a
different
different
district,
different
geography.
L
Hi
everybody
good
evening,
hey
eric.
I
had
a
question
for
you
so
for
your
new
zone
map
that
you're
showing
there
for
the
r3b,
I
think,
is
what
you're
calling
it
or
make
sure
I'm
calling
that
correctly.
Yeah
yeah
rt3b!
Oh
I'm
sorry
r3a.
What
is
the
maximum
height
for
that.
A
So,
under
all
three
options,
we're
proposing
a
three-story
height
limit
as
the
base.
Of
course
density
bonus
exists,
and
so
you
know
under
under
many
circumstances,
a
developer
would
be
able
to
build
more
height
than
three
stories.
Just
through
the
process
of
density
bonus.
A
There
could
also
be
an
option-
and
we
talked
about
this-
a
little
in
the
presentation
of
allowing
awards
for
extra
height
for
things
like
new
parks
providing
ground
floor
commercial.
If
that's
something
that
the
end
of
the
community
is
interested
in
seeing
so
there
could
be
flexibility
on
the
height
for
for
things
that
the
community
is
interested
in.
Seeing.
A
Well,
under
density
bonus,
it's
very
hard
to
predict.
You
know
the,
but
in
general,
if,
if
somebody
is
requesting
a
50
bonus,
which
is
generally
the
maximum
market
rate
density
bonus
that
you
can
get
under
state
law
right
now,
you
know
on
a
three-story
building
that
could
be
up
to
five
stories.
A
Well,
you
said:
holla
could
ask
a
question,
so,
let's,
let's
let
her
ask
and
then
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
stop
sorry.
Sarah.
M
Okay,
hello,
good
afternoon
or
good
evening,
so
you
you
mentioned
that
there
were
concerns
from
the
public
input
about
areas
that
did
not
have
precise
plan,
and
we
know
that
the
moffett
area
has
no
precise
plan
and
the
residents
in
the
community.
There
are
very
concerned
about
that,
because
increasing
density
without
accounting
for
infrastructure
and
community
needs
will
be
very
difficult
to
do.
D
A
So
the
the
council
has
directed
staff
to
have
a
study
session
about
whether
we
should
pursue
a
precise
plan
for
moffat
boulevard
corridor.
A
If
a
precise
plan
does
proceed,
it
would
presumably
be
for
the
commercial
properties
on
moffitt
boulevard
rather
than
the
residential
properties
adjacent
to
moffett
boulevard.
However,
certainly
if,
if
the
the
community
wishes
to
incorp,
you
know
broaden
the
size
of
that
precise
plan.
Theoretically,
that
could
be
something
that
could
be
directed
by
council
at
that
study
session.
A
Well,
great
so
from
there
let's
see
so
we're
going
to
go
into
breakout
groups
and
so
you're
going
to
be
assigned
a
random
breakout
group,
so
just
accept
it
when
you're
prompted
if
you're
interested
in
a
chinese
breakout
group,
don't
just
accept
it.
A
Please
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
put
you
into
a
special
group
martine.
Do
you
want
to
prompt
the
spanish
speakers
sure.
A
Okay,
so
krisha
do
you
want
to
put
everybody
into
their
groups
and
and
I'll
try
to
deal
with
any
stragglers.
A
Again,
I
really
appreciate
you
all
taking
your
time
tonight,
busy
nights,
you
know
lots
going
on
in
people's
homes.
I'm
sure
I
definitely
heard
some
child
care
trying
to
trying
to
wrangle
that
while
you're
doing
this,
so
I
really
really
appreciate
you
you've
taken
the
time
and
the
the
effort
to
to
kind
of
make
your
voice
heard
on
this.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
I
hope
you
had
an
excellent
time
with
your
group
and
provide
a
lot
of
great
input.
A
So
right
now,
I
think
we're
just
gonna
jump
into
some
report
backs
we'd
love
to
hear
some
of
the
things
that
you
heard
from
your
groups,
maybe
from
each
group
we'll
just
see
who
sees
you
know
three
or
four
main
ideas
from
from
each
group,
maybe
where
there
was
agreement
or
disagreement
or
just
something
that
came
up,
that
that
was
innovative
and
interesting.
A
So,
let's
start
with
group
one
which
I
think
who
was
group
one.
Does
anybody
remember
tony.
E
N
Hi
good
evening,
so
just
to
get
started
on
that.
Our
summary
would
be
that
we
want
to
maintain
and
grow
small
businesses,
so
we
want
to
support
both
new
and
existing
small
businesses,
we'd
like
to
maintain
and
see
more
of
these
on
the
ground
level
of
developments.
N
N
We
also
want
to
see
the
mature
heritage
trees
maintained
in
new
developments
more
often,
and
we
want
to
offer
stricter
guidelines
to
developers
up
front
so
that
they
do
maintain
these
in
their
initial
plans,
and
we
also
have
a
concern
with
density
bonus
in
general,
on
top
of
our
three
a
concern
about
privacy,
when
you
have
different
stories
next
to
shorter
stories,
there's
also
an
interest
in
in
transitions
between
adjacent
properties.
N
We
we
also
feel
that
newer
developments
are
not
having
enough
setbacks.
That's
a
concern.
We
want
to
see
wider
sidewalks
particularly
wide
enough
for
two
people
to
walk
past
each
other
and
and
also
have
trees
along
them,
so
maintaining
tree
canopies
and
having
new
trees
added
in
along
these
sidewalks
and
streets.
N
A
H
So
christine
and
I
are
going
to
have
a
lot
of
similarities,
which
is
wonderful.
Our
group
liked
the
2022
map
better.
H
We
really
felt
in
terms
of
when
we
looked
at
the
pictures
that
we
feel
like
the
any
new
building,
should
have
a
pretty
substantial
setback
so
that
it
does
give
a
more
open
feel
for
the
building.
We
also
believe
that
buildings
should
have
be
stepped
so
that
there
we
do
not
get
any
canyons
or
what
I
call
tunnels
so
that
it's
more
open
also
any
new
development
should
really
fit
into
the
community.
H
H
We
also
believe
that
commercials
should
be
on
the
first
floor,
wherever
it
makes
sense,
so
that
we
can
have
a
walkable
bikeable
community
and
have
that
sense
of
neighborhood
parking
is
still
a
concern,
so
that
is,
but
we
really
feel
that
everyone
was
very
strong
about
having
urban
forests
and
some
open
spaces
and
not
just
block
buildings
one
after
another.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
terry
appreciate
you,
you
speaking
up
for
your
group
and
and
thanks
again
to
your
group
for
for
all
of
your
input.
How
about
roger
and
krisha's
group.
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
am
I'm
gonna-
try
to
not
go
over
every
single
little
bit.
I
think
the
main
thing
that
that
there
was
a
lot
of
agreement
on
because
it
was
sort
of
early
on
and
then
also
the
last
thing
we
talked
about
was
the
the
shape
of
buildings.
The
generally
everyone
in
the
group
was
not
wild
about
the
large
flat
sided
buildings,
the
the
s
so
we're
so
there's.
E
Even
some
talk
about
specifically
a
more
modern
architectural
style
was
was
the
the
main
thing
that
was
disliked
there.
So
there
are
suggestions
in
the
in
the
notes
that
go
into
more
detail
about
specific
ways
to
to
deal
with
that,
then,
as
for
commercial
generally,
the
group
was
in
favor
of
it.
E
E
That
was
on
the
summary
on
that,
and
then
I
I
think
that
the
yeah
just
try
to
not
build
very
high
density
next
to
the
existing
r1
areas
is
the
sort
of
the
question
for
the
sort
of
the
group's
response
to
where,
where
density
should
be
and
again,
there's
more
detail
on
all
those
in
our
notes.
A
Awesome,
thank
you
so
much
david
and
to
your
group.
How
about
martine
and
anna's
group?
I
know
you
guys
finished
early,
but
did
you
have
any
anything
you
want
to
report
from
from
your
group,
and
I
know
albert
was
in
that
one
and
maybe
a
few
other
folks.
O
I'll
go
ahead
and
give
a
quick
summary
again
just
to
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
of
what
creative
solutions
can
be
brought
up,
especially
with
the
privacy
issue
that
was
mentioned
earlier
between
the
different
types
of
buildings
and
what
are
some
of
the
creative
things
that
can
be
brought
up
with
landscaping,
specifically
to
maybe
help
mitigate
some
of
those
privacy
issues.
O
So
that's
something
that
everybody
didn't
really
have
a
sense
of
what
exactly
it
would
look
like,
but
like
the
idea
of
exploring
that
option
very,
very
supportive
of
commercial
integration
throughout
the
community
and
specifically
small
businesses
right
and
ensuring
that
there
is
lots
of
support
for
them
to
ensure
their
success.
A
Awesome,
thank
you
so
much
anna
martine
everybody
in
group,
four.
How
about
beth
and
stefan's
group.
F
Hello
I'll
be
representing
my
rather
diverse
group,
so
we
started
by
talking
about
how
buildings
can
cast
pretty
dramatic
shadows
so
trying
to
place
the
buildings
so
that
solarly
they're
not
casting
shadows
on
someone's
yard
or
house
or
additionally,
we
can
place
those
taller
buildings
along
open
spaces.
F
We
think
that
the
setback
could
be
a
great
way
to
help
transition
buildings,
so
you
can
have
tall
buildings
and
then
some
sort
of
open
space
set
back
and
then
the
smaller
buildings
that
are
currently
zoned
not
r3,
and
I
talked
about
how
commercial
is
everyone
supports
the
commercial
being
added
to
the
neighborhood
or
maintained
in
the
neighborhood,
but
there
are
some
parking
pros
and
cons
and
trying
to
figure
out
where
to
locate
that
so
that
it
does
not
affect
the
residential
parking
and
then
just
one
more
thing
is
that
we
support
using
all
the
tools
that
we
discussed
today
and
still
support
tall
buildings
which
will
allow
affordable
units
just
being
very
intentional
about
where
they
go.
A
Awesome,
thank
you
so
much
beth.
Thank
you
to
everybody
in
group
five
and
thank
you
all
tonight
for
all
of
your
input.
I
do
have
a
few
more
final
notes
before
you
leave.
Let
me
share
my
screen
one
more
time
you
guys
are
sick
of
staring
at
a
screen,
but
this
is
almost
over.
I
promise.
A
A
So
this
will
take
you
to
our
city
page
and
there's
a
link
for
the
online
workshop
right
there
in
the
middle
of
the
city
page,
which
will
take
you
to
your
opportunity
to
provide
more
comments
on
all
of
these
topics.
Right
now.
The
only
neighborhood
that's
up
on
that
page
is
the
mona
loma
neighborhood,
which
was
the
neighborhood
that
we
had
a
workshop
of
last
week,
but
in
the
next
week,
or
so,
we'll
have
all
of
these
materials
for
the
off
at
whisman.
A
Neighborhood
up
and
you'll
be
able
to
provide
additional
comments
that
way.
So
next
steps
after
this
outreach
will
carry
on
through
this.
This
outreach
will
carry
on
through
the
end
of
2022,
develop
options
and
return
to
the
epc
and
council
for
their
review
in
early
2023
and
we're
expecting
to
adopt
this
project
in
early
late,
2023
or
early
2024..
A
So
thanks
again,
I
will
be
available
for
about
five
or
six
more
minutes
if
there
are
any
quick
questions
that
you
want
to
ask
before
we
go
and
have
a
great
night.
Thank
you
again
for
your
time
this
evening,.
B
A
G
F
P
M
Yes,
I
I
would
like
to
emphasize
that
I
would
really
like
to
see
a
precise
plan
for
moffett
area,
including
the
residential
area,
before
implementing
any
changes
updates
to
the
zoning
in
there.
I
think
that
would
be
very
beneficial
to
the
residents
of
of
that
area.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
comment
and-
and
you
know,
as
I
said,
the
council
has
tasked
us
with
bringing
forward
a
study
session,
probably
in
the
next
I'm
anticipating
that
it
will
probably
certainly
be
in
the
next
year,
although
it
may
not
be
a
you
know
by
the
end
of
2022,
but
we
are
going
to
bring
forward
a
steady
session
to
the
council
to
talk
about
options
for
a
model
of
our
precise
plan.
M
A
The
15
is
compulsory.
The
you
know,
one
of
the
nuances
of
density
bonus
that
any
bonus
units
that
somebody
gets
as
part
of
a
density
bonus.
Are
there.
A
On
so
a
density
bonus
project
will
end
up
having
fewer
than
15
affordable
units.
However,
from
net
from
this
point
forward,
there
were
a
few
projects
that
were
still
kind
of
pipelined
in
because
they
were
under
review
during
during
the
pro
time
when
we
adopted
our
current
bmr
code.
But
from
this
point
forward
the
15
requirement
is
compulsory.
A
We
are
in
the
next
couple
of
years
going
to
be
having
a
study
session
to
look
at
our
bmr
code.
Is
it
meeting
all
of
our
city
goals?
Is
it?
Are
there
any
amendments
that
we
need
to
do
to
to
update
it
and
make
it?
You
know
achieve
more
of
our
goals?
A
We
also
have
a
you
know.
A
broad
range
of
you
know
100,
affordable
projects
that
are
in
the
pipeline
that
the
city
is
actively
working
on
to
try
to
support
affordability.
You
know,
through
the
you
know,
through
the
nonprofit
sector,.
D
P
Well,
david
will
like
this.
I
wanted
to
echo
something
that
partis
brought
up,
which
is:
we've
got
the
2020
map
and
the
2022
map,
and
it's
unclear
how
much
housing
the
2022
map
will
provide
compared
with
the
2020
and
tony
told
us
that
that
was
going
to
be
looked
at,
but
it
hasn't
been
done
yet.
So
just
wanted
to
echo
that
point
that
artists
made.
A
Yeah,
no,
it
hasn't
been
done
yet
we
we
would
still
need
to
do
more
detailed
analysis
right
now.
This
is
kind
of
very
much
a
brainstorming
session.
A
I
think,
if
you
remember,
when
we
did
the
outreach
for
the
first
time
around,
we
didn't
really
have
a
number
that
it
was
going
to
produce,
and
then
we
presented
it
to
council
with
a
roughly
9000
additional
unit
capacity
number
from
the
from
the
2020
option,
so
the
2022
option
would
be
less
less
than
that
because
it,
you
know,
wouldn't
have
sites
going
up
to
six
stories,
but
we
haven't
done
that
analysis.
Yet.
E
Thanks
for
the
question,
so
my
my
question
is
about
residential
parking
programs.
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
the
you
know
the
whole
thing
from
donald
trump,
where
basically
you
you
want
to
sell
those
those
permits
to
the
existing
homeowners
before
you
build
the
significant
density
right
like
if
you
wait
until
after
you've
built
the
new
density,
then
it's
too
late
to
sell
the
residential
parking
permits
and
you
you
get
yourself
into
more
of
a
mess.
E
But
if
you,
if
you
sell
those
permits
permanent,
transparent
permanent
permits,
that
the
existing
homeowners
can
can
themselves
sell
or
keep
or
give
to
their
their
errors
or
whatever
it
gets
them
invested
in
the
value
of
density.
But
if
we
wait
until
we
built
the
r3
there'll,
be
so
many
units
you
won't
be
able
to
sell
like
there
will
no
longer
be
enough
capacity
on
the
streets
for
all
those
residential
parking
permits,
and
then
you
won't
be
able
to
implement
the
program.
E
You
won't
be
able
to
have
the
paid
the
paid
component,
the
that
that
covers
the
rest
of
the
costs
and
raises
money
and
all
that
stuff.
So
when
is
the
right
time
to
talk
about
adding
like?
Can
that
be
something
that's
part
of
the
r3
program
can
like?
Should
I
have
been
bringing
that
up
more
strenuously
here.
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
think
they're,
the
also
you
can
potentially
create
capacity
on
the
streets
by
encouraging
people
to
use
their
private
garages,
for
example,
and
things
like
that,
you
know
show
where
there
is
there's
additional
capacity.
So
there's
a
lot
of
good
points.
I
think
you
know
we
are.
The
public
works.
Department
is
working
on
the
residential
permit
parking
program.
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
direct
knowledge.
A
You
to
look
on
the
website
at
the
rpp
rppp
materials
on
the
website.
E
So
like
right
now,
rex
manor
could
petition
to
have
that.
Yes,
wow
wow,
as
the
vice
president
of
the
the
rex
manor
neighbor
neighborhood
association,
I'm
very
excited.
I
suspect,
though,
that
holding
a
holding
a
referendum
probably
is
maybe
a
bridge
too
far
because
again
we're
there
we're
not
seeing
the
massive
development.
Yet
here
right.
D
E
I
it's
kind
of
it's.
It
seems
like
what
you're
saying
is
that
it's
something
where,
like
the
residents
have
to
see
hey?
This
is
coming.
We
better
do
this
now
before
the
new
residents
move,
in
which
I
mean
again,
it's
a
super
cutthroat
and
kind
of
ugly,
but
at
the
same
time
it
makes
things
work.
So
I
I
I
wanted
to.
I
want
it
to
happen,
because
I
really
want
the
paid
parking
in
the
places
where
they're
high
demand.
Okay.
Okay,
that's
terrific
is
okay,
so.
E
Something
I'll
remember
next
time
in
one
of
these
meetings
someone's
worried
about
parking,
I'll
I'll
mention
that
hey
like.
If
we're
worried
about
this,
we
should
implement
that
residential
parking
permit.
It
doesn't
work
the
way
I
describe.
I
have
to
read
out
right,
you're,
not
sure
whether
it
gives
the
all
the
existing
homeowners
a
permanent
transferable
permit.
A
I
I
don't
think
so
that
doesn't
sound
familiar
to
me.
Okay,
okay,
so
I
I
encourage
you
to
look
on
the
website
at
the
details
of
the
program
on
the
website.
E
N
It's
christine
and
elsa.
We
just
wanted
to
second
and
third,
really
the
call
out
for
needing
a
precise
plan
for
our
area
living
where
we
do
at
555,
west
middle
field
and
the
development
that
was
disapproved.
We
are
frustrated
that
the
precise
plan
wasn't
done
beforehand,
and
we
just
want
to
continue
to
advocate
for
that
as
well.
So
we
appreciate
holla
pointing
that
out.
A
Thank
you
well,
thank
you
for
seconding.
It
again
stay
tuned.
There
will
be
a
study
session
hope
in
the
next.
You
know
within
the
next
year.
I
I
don't
know
exactly
when,
but
definitely
within
the
next
year.
N
All
right,
thank
you,
so
much
for
everything
tonight
too,
take
good
care.
Everybody.
A
A
Okay,
well
with
that
shout
out,
why
don't
we
say
good
night
and
thank
you
again.
Everyone
for
for
coming
out
tonight
have
a
great
evening.