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Live teleconference of the Mountain View Public Safety Advisory Board Meeting scheduled for Thursday, June 23, 2022.
A
One
we'll
call
this
meeting
to
order
at
709
during
the
declared
state
of
emergency.
The
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
california
government
code
54953e
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
city
dot
clerk
at
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution.
A
A
A
A
A
C
A
D
E
B
E
A
B
Thank
you
frank.
This
is
the
second
meeting
of
a
two
meeting
process
for
the
psab
to
establish
its
proposed
fiscal
year
2022-23
work
plan.
At
your
last
meeting.
You
had
the
first
meeting
of
that
two
two-step
process
and
at
that
meeting
I
presented
the
status
of
current
work
plan
items
and
psep
members
then
were
able
to
put
forward
up
to
two
potential
new
work
plan
items.
Since
that
time,
staff
has
assessed
the
work
plan,
items
that
were
submitted
and.
B
So
looking
at
all
of
those
things,
staff
categorized
the
items
there
were
11,
I'm
sorry,
nine
items
that
were
put
forward
by
psab
members
and
then
another
eight
items
that
were
either
time
limited
but
not
yet
completed
and
therefore
would
carry
forward
from
the
current
work
plan
into
the
fiscal
year.
22-23
work
plan
or
could
be
considered
ongoing
and
that
they
relate
to
things
that
happen
each
year
and
for
that
list,
staff
categorized
them
with
regard
to
the
status
and
whether
it
was
something
that
was
already
existing
or
was
new.
B
The
time
frame.
Whether
it
was
time
limited
or
ongoing,
the
type
of
action
which
the
psab
would
be
focused
on
and
then
a
staff
recommendation
either
to
just
include,
because
it's
ongoing
or
continued
and
those
are
items
1
through
11
in
table
2
or
2a
of
the
staff
report
or
those
that
were
not
recommended.
B
I'm
sorry,
those
that
were
recommended
for
prioritization
and
those
are
the
things
that
would
be
more
substantive
of
the
things
that
aren't
ongoing.
That
would
require
likely
the
formation
of
a
subcommittee
and
or
just
a
medium
or
higher
level
of
of
work,
effort
and
of
those
which
are
in
table
2b,
which
are
items
12
through
17.
B
And
that
comes
in
you
know
all
the
different
ways
that
work
comes
into
the
organization,
including
the
advisory
board
board.
So
we've
been
given
that
direction
to
keep
the
the
work
plans
manageable,
and
so
what
I
am
suggesting
is
the
work
ahead
of
you
tonight
is
to
to
to
focus
on
those
six
items
for
prioritization,
and
I
have
a
process
once
you've
completed
your
discussion
of
the
items,
any
clarification
or
modification
that
you
want
to
make
to
the
items.
I
have
a
process.
B
I
can
suggest
for
you
to
each
have
your
own
votes,
which
we
can
tally
and
then
that
will
help
us
identify
the
item
that
has
the
highest
level
of
support
and
that
would
be
put
forward
as
part
of
the
proposed
work
plan
and
the
all
of
the
advisory
boards
proposed.
Work
plans
go
to
the
city
council
in
september
of
each
year,
and
so
it
will
be
council's
action
to
consider
that
and
approve
it.
B
A
D
It
may
be
that
I
just
didn't
look
and
I'm
a
little
more
aware
now,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
got
the
report
on
the
military
weapons
before
the
meeting
and
whatever
I'm
hoping
that
next
year
we
can
have
the
report
on
military
weapons,
with
some
anticipation
and
related
to
that.
Could
we
have
the
report
any
report
that
comes
from
staff
on
a
friday
instead
of
a
monday
before
the
psat
meeting,
so
we
have
the
weekend
to
look
at
it.
D
And
that's
already
marked
for
consideration.
I
think
that's
important
that
we
keep
an
eye
on
that
number
15,
an
sro
mou,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
mou
is
about,
but
my
question
is:
why
isn't
it
recommended
and
and
then
number
14
to
consider
for
prioritization
domestic
violence
in
the
undocumented
community?
I'd
like
to
know:
is
there
some
reason
we're
looking
at
just
the
undocumented
community?
D
B
That's
going
to
be
an
annual.
The
the
there
hasn't
been
a
report,
an
annual
report,
yet
because
this
requirement
has
only
just
now
gone
into
effect
with
the
passage
of
assembly,
bill,
481
or
1481.,
and
we
did
have
a
staff
report
that
went
into
the
packet.
That
explained
what
that
legislation
was
and
what
the
new
requirements
would
be
and
and
that
it
that
we
needed
to
establish
a
policy
and
that
that
would
go
to
council
and
that
did
go
to
council.
And
when
it
went
to.
B
Council
council
talked
about
the
ongoing
requirement
that
the
legislation
has
imposed,
that
there
be
an
annual
reporting
on
the
use
of
these
pieces
of
equipment
that
you
learned
about
at
that
meeting
and
any
proposed
change
to
the
equipment
that
the
police
department
would
would
purchase
and
that
the
council
wanted
that
to
come
to
the
psab.
And
so
that's
going
to
be
on
an
annual
schedule.
B
And
we
would
be
bringing
it
to
the
psav
annually
as
a
written
report
and
we
would
provide
it
in
the
packet
in
advance
of
the
meeting
and
I'm
also
hearing
you
say
that
in
general,
having
the
packet
sooner
friday
instead
of
monday
would
be
of
interest
to
you.
So
that's
duly
noted
and
would
be
something
we'd
like
to
try
to
do
and
can
kind
of
think
more
about
meeting
scheduling
in
ways
to
to
allow
us
the
time
to
do
that.
B
Regarding
extreme
views
that
I
don't
know
if
there
was
a
quick
question
there.
I
think
you
were
you
know
commenting
on
your
your
support
of
that
idea.
Regarding
the
sro
mou,
that's
the
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
city
and
each
of
the
two
school
districts
regarding
how
the
school
resource
officer
program
will
operate
in
those
schools
at
a
kind
of
a
high
policy
level.
B
B
F
So
I
had
invited
the
fbi
to
come
by
and
they
gave
you
we
spread
the
word
around,
but
very
very
few
people
came.
We
wanted
to
try
to
hold
it
off
city
hall
premises
because
they
associate
city
hall
also
with
the
police
department,
so
the
fbi
came
and
explained
to
those
who
are
there
and
to
the
hrc
that
you
know
that
there's
no
rule
against
it.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
you're,
documented
or
not
documented,
citizen
or
otherwise.
F
You
are
protected
under
the
law
from
any
criminality,
any
domestic
violence.
That
was
the
main
thing
and
at
the
same
time
I
did
put
a
note
that
I
would
like
to
include
the
you
know:
people
who
are
locals
people
who
are
documented
and
citizens
and
residents
of
the
city
of
mountain
view
to
fall
under
the
same
same
category.
A
A
H
B
Yes,
that
is
a
good
synopsis
of
the
process.
I
have
a
a
table
that
I'll
put
up
when
you're
at
that
point
in
the
meeting,
and
you
know
it's
got
all
of
your
names
and
it's
got
those
items
listed
and
you'll
you
each
will
tell
me
which
two
and
or
tell
each
other,
which
two
and
I'll
document
that
and
then
we'll
see
where,
where
those
votes
fall,.
I
I
I
I
Do
is
the
idea
we
might
review
what
the
plan
is
for
the
upcoming
school
year
and
it
kind
of
give
feedback
on
content
or
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
our
role
is
there,
and
also
I
have
a
question
of-
is
this
just
for
the
high
school
district?
Is
this
just
mountain
view
high,
or
is
there
a
discussion
that
sros
might
go
to
the
los
altos
campus,
even
though
they're
not
supposed
to
they're
not
supposed
to
be
there,
but
in
the
role
just
to
present?
I
I
can
keep
going.
I
just
didn't
want
to
cause
any
troubles:
okay,
numbers,
10
and
11-
just
clarification
again
of
what
the
intent
of
the
item
is:
mvpd,
recruitment
and
retention,
challenges
and
strategies.
Is
that
a
presentation
that
we
get
of
what's
happening
and
we
discuss
it?
It
says
information,
so
I
it
does
that
translate
to
no
just
I
guess
that's
probably
a
question
with
nine
too
is:
are
we
just
taking
it
in?
So
there's
no
action
for
us.
There's!
No,
it's
it's
just
you
know
same
with
11..
I
Are
we
giving
any
feedback?
Do
we
have
any
active
role
and
when
we
get
that
information,
so
9
through
11,
I
guess,
are
similar
set
of
questions.
13
and
14
are
big
items
from
my
perspective
and
I
was
curious
if
there's
any
precedent
from
having
community
members
on
any
of
these
subcommittees.
Who
might
have
specialization
in
you
know,
teen
substance
abuse
or
are
in
the
field
of
domestic
violence.
I
I
understand
that
I
was
curious
if
the
pd
has
access
to
a
presentation
or
information
that
could
be
shared
with
us
about
technological
advances
in
things
that
were
traditionally
done
by
people
police
officers
that
are
now
automated
right.
So
you
know
I
don't
know
speed
if
they're
speed,
cameras
or
red
light
cameras
is,
is
there
a
possibility
without
causing
too
much
work
on
any
one
person's
shoulders
to
kind
of
get
a
summary
of
or
or
be
be
pointed
to,
resources
on
the
latest
technological
advances
in
automated
action
for
traditional
police
officer
roles?
I
I
think
I've
already
made
my
thoughts
known
on
this
when
it
was
originally
suggested
that
the
council
did
not
pass
this
back
to
psab.
I
think
that
I
in
my
head,
I
differentiate
the
council
specifically
saying
we
don't
want
psab
to
look
at
that
versus
the
council
being
inundated
with
information
and
not
actually
saying
oh
yeah.
We
want
psab
to
look
at
that.
I
So,
in
my
mind,
not
saying
yes
doesn't
mean
they
said
no,
and
I
think
it's
important
there's
a
lot
of
community
interest
in
seeing
that
mou
before,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
thoughtful
about
that
before
we
decide
that.
That's
not
on
our
remit,
you
know
and
based
on
the
community
support
I've
I've
already
kind
of
probed
with
a
couple
council
members
like
and
they're
like
we
don't
remember
that
right.
So
you
know
what
I
mean.
I
B
A
B
I
think
that
when
we
get
to
that
point
after
you've
gone
through
your
questions
and
you've
heard
public
comment
and
you're
deciding
what
you'd
like
to
do
with
the
items,
you
know
chair
frank,
as
you
were
the
the
submitter
of
that
idea.
You
could.
You
could
seek
consensus
from
your
colleagues
to
remove
it
if
you
would
like,
and
so
with
that,
I'm
let's
see
I'm
trying
to.
B
So
the
quantity
possessed
for
each
type
of
equipment
how
it
was
used
and
the
purpose
of
its
use.
The
summary
of
any
concerns
the
results
of
any
internal
audits,
the
total
annual
cost
and
acquisition
plans.
So,
yes,
it
does
have
a
proactive
piece
around
the
plans
for
acquisition,
so
that
responds
to
the
question
about
item
seven
item:
yeah
item,
seven.
Regarding
item
12,
I'm
sorry
that
was
remember.
B
Bradovsky
item
14,
the
sro
drug
10
presentation
was
what
chair
frank
just
spoke
to
oh,
and
that
was
actually
adam
nine.
I
wrote
down
14.
and
then
in
terms
of
9,
10
and
11
that
are
identified
as
information
items.
Your
description
of
them,
I
thought
was
accurate
that
they
they
are
intended
to
be
for
information
purposes
and
for
sharing
not
just
with
the
psab,
but
the
community
in
in
general,
things
that
are
of
interest
but
aren't
necessarily
items
that
require.
B
Recommendations
or
even
necessarily
comment
because
they
wouldn't
necessarily
be
the
kinds
of
things
that
the
psap
would
be
in
a
good
position
to
comment
on,
for
example,
recruitment
and
retention
it.
I
can
see
that
being
something
of
interest
to
the
psab
and
wanting
to
know
how
does
the
police
department
do
that?
B
B
But
it
would
not
be
traditional
or
advised
to
have
non-psab
members
on
a
subcommittee,
but
certainly
could
be
consulted
with
similar
to
the
way
that
we
are
doing
with
the
mental
health
subcommittee,
where
the
part
of
the
role
of
the
subcommittee
and
your
you
also
have.
The
support
of
me
on
staff
is
to
connect
with
people
who
have
that
expertise,
but
but,
but
I
think
it's
it's.
B
It's
helpful
that
you've
got
that
question
out
there,
that
there
are
limits
to
how
much
kind
of
expertise
that
we
can
bring
on
bring
to
bear
on
different
topics.
And
we
want
to
pick
the
topics
that
are
going
to
be.
You
know
the
best
fit
for
the
mission
of
the
psab
and
the
the
expertise
that
we
have
as
staff
and
psab
members
and
the
the
connections
that
we
can
bring
to
inform
ourselves.
B
B
B
Just
in
my
hearing
of
of
your
question
that
feels
like
a
different
project
than
the
one
that
has
been
proposed
by
one
of
your
colleagues,
and
so
if,
if
it
was
wanting
that
as
an
information
item,
that
could
conceivably
be
an
information
item
and
we
could
see
if
we
have
the
capacity
to
to
add
that
to
the
other
items
in
the
work
plan.
But
I
don't
know
that
it
that
it
would
sub
out
for.
B
For
this
I
mean
it's
still
your
prerogative
as
a
as
a
board
to
to
prioritize
any
of
these
six.
But
if
you
you
wanted
to
have
that
other
item,
I
think
it's
a
different.
It's
a
different
item
than
looking
at
alternative
models
to
traffic.
Stop
traffic
stops
regarding
sros.
You
know
my
memory
was
that
that
it
did
get
raised
and
discussed
as
the
possibility
for
the
the
mou
to
come
back
to
the
psab.
I
A
I
So,
just
on
my
my
question,
this
is
a
cap
specifically
captain
mike
so
is.
Is
there
existing
like
an
existing
document,
presentation
links
person
in
the
police
department
who
tracks
automation
of
things
that
are
traditionally
done
by
officers?
I
I
don't
know
there
might
be.
This
might
be
easily
answered
and
something
exists.
So
I
was
curious
if
there
is
anything
like
that.
G
G
A
C
Hi
all
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
the
discussion
just
on
hearing
some
of
the
answers,
the
questions
I'd
like
to
make
kind
of
a
conceptual
point
there.
It
seems
like
on
the
proposed
work
plan.
There
are
several
low
effort
items
that
will
take
up
time,
but
they're
just
informational
and
prevents
the
body
from
performing
its
advisory
role.
C
C
In
2006,
the
fbi
released
a
report
that
white
supremacists
were
looking
to
infiltrate
law
enforcement.
I've
met
some
police
officers
in
mountain
view
through
mvpdx.
I
don't
think
we
have
that
as
an
issue,
but
it
would
be
really
great
to
actively
confirm
that
and
perhaps
provide
a
model
for
local
cities.
Looking
to
show
we
don't
have
white,
supremacists
or
insurrectionists
in
our
department,
the
with
regards
you
know,
I'm
a
few
years
too
old
to
have
had
active,
shooter
drills
in
school,
but
I
do.
C
I
am
young
enough
that
I
know
several
people
who
died
in
the
opioid
epidemic
like
I
know
several
people
who
have
overdosed-
and
this
has
been
a
long
going
issue-
I
think
that's
something
that
could
be
worthwhile
to
look
into,
and
I
just
want
to
raise
an
idea
of
how
it's
actually
connected
to
an
existing
item.
The
mental
health
response,
mental
health,
one
of
the
major
things
that
at
least
I
see
as
that
is
looking
for.
C
What's
the
appropriate
response,
that
is
not
necessarily
law
enforcement
for
something
that
is
not
a
law
enforcement
issue
for
a
mental
health
issue.
It's
not
a
law
enforcement
issue.
Substance
abuse
is
a
public
health
issue,
not
a
a
law
enforcement
issue
and
looking
into
how
to
give
the
correct
response
and
make
the
right
resources
meet.
What
we
have,
I
think,
seems
something
that
is
is
worthwhile
also
really
de-policing
traffic
enforcement.
I
think
that's
something
that
is
worthwhile
looking
into.
C
We
have
a
local
model,
berkeley
looked
into
that
in
in
the
past
year
or
two.
I
believe
it's
something
that
we
don't.
We
wouldn't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel
on,
but
it's
worth
at
least
considering
and
looking
into
especially
having
heard
from
mvpdx
how
traffic
and
traffic
enforcement
may
be
one
of
the
most
dangerous
things
police
do.
C
So,
let's
try
to
remove
that
dangerous
element
from
the
job
free
up
the
cops
to
just
do
what
they
are
there
to
do,
and
just
one
last
point:
I'm
confused
about
all
the
time
spent
on
the
down
sros.
If
we're
not
going
to
actually
have
an
impact
on
the
mou
and
know
like
what
the
actual
public
agreement
is
between
the
city
and
school
district,
it
seems
a
little
weird.
J
Connor
sure,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
was
a
little
confused
hi.
This
is
miriam
connor,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
mountain
view
coalition
for
police
reform
and
accountability,
just
some
some
thoughts
that
we
had
as
a
coalition
on
the
work
plan.
So,
given
that
there
is
limited
space,
we
wanted
to
share
some
ideas
for
where
we
think
items
could
be
condensed
or
eliminated
or
streamlined.
J
So
if
the
goal
is
to
educate
the
public,
it's
possible
for
some
of
these
items,
mbpdx
could
be
a
more
successful
venue
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
interested
to
really
get
into
the
details,
and
we
think
that
psab
should
ideally
be
prioritizing
the
more
actionable
items.
So
a
couple
of
items
where
it's
not
clear
what
role
the
psab
actually
plays.
K
K
According
to
the
staff
member,
random
psab
has
tighter
restrictions
on
its
work
plan
than
other
advisory
bodies
do
as
far
as
we
can
determine,
and
we
note
that
what
psab
is
told
in
the
memorandum
for
this
meeting
is
different
from
what
other
advisory
bodies
have
been
told
so
far
so
wondering.
Where
is
the
direction
to
limit
coming
from
I've
personally
heard
from
council
members
that
they
seek
more
from
advisory
bodies,
not
less
accordingly
advisory
body
work
plans
should
be
as
robust
as
possible.
K
K
Secondly,
the
workplace
memorandum
talks
about
prioritizing
not
defining
what
the
word
plan
will
actually
look
like
as
it
goes
to
council.
This
feels
incomplete
to
us.
Psap
should
have
a
chance
to
see
that
and
approve
it
first.
Among
other
details,
we
hope
to
see
direction
for
appropriate
work
items
to
be
actionable
on
the
part
of
peace
tab
as
maria
mentioned
and
then
lastly,
to
kavita's
question
on
the
psab
subcommittee
member
inclusion.
K
L
Hello,
this
is
dave
luther
also
commenting
with
bruce
merriam
on
behalf
of
advoca
yeah,
a
couple
other
items
I
think,
along
the
same
lines
of
maybe
streamlining
or
tucking
some
things
under
other
things,
as
well
as
voicing
some
support
for
some
of
the
items
in
the
unprioritized
list
that
we
would
like
to
see
brought
up.
So
the
first
item
that
we
do
support
prioritizing
is
the
the
item
on
bias
and
extreme
views
and
policing.
L
Our
members
do
have
experience
with
you
know
some
of
the
mbbt
officers
through
mvpdx
and
we
haven't
really,
you
know,
detected
anything
like
those
extremist
views.
We
do
think
it
is.
You
know
an
important
and
pervasive
issue
that
has
implications
in
every
community
in
california,
and
you
know
that
needs
to
be
taken
seriously.
So
we
do
hope
that
you
know
the
the
psab
there
can
consider
investigating
extreme
extremism
in
our
community
and
enacting
recommendations
from
the
auditor,
locally
yeah
and
then
second,
some
items
that
we
do
think
can
be.
L
You
know
tucked
under
others,
so
especially
under
the
existing
kind
of
mental
health
response
item
substance.
Abuse
in
particular
seems
like
it
could
be
routed
to
that
mental
health
subcommittee,
and
then
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
know
if
we
actually
have
like
enough
info
on
domestic
violence
as
an
issue.
It
could
be
another
area
where
mental
health
professionals
could
be
the
more
effective
at
least
as
first
responders
than
than
police,
so
it
could
also
fall
on
the
purview
of
that
some
committee.
L
We
do
think
that
psab
should
review
the
soo
and
manage
sr
sorry,
the
sro
manual
and
the
mou
jointly
so
put
those
items
together.
Even
even
if
there
does
need
to
be
like
approval
or
reconsideration
from
city
council,
we
think
it's
worth
it.
We
think
it's
you
know.
The
only
way
to
get
a
full
picture
of
the
work
of
sros
is
to
combine
those
items
so
some
thoughts
there.
Thank
you.
M
Hey
cleve
I'll,
keep
it
quick.
I
just
like
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
the
previous
speakers.
I
think
that
as
much
as
I
love
mike's
presentations,
they're
great,
the
a
in
psab
doesn't
stand
for
audience
and
I
think
that
the
work
plan
should
involve
work,
just
actual
actionable
things
that
are
making
a
difference
in
community,
not
just
informational
presentations.
M
A
I
I
Are
we
kind
of
reconsidering
what
the
term
public
safety
means
or
13
and
14
meant
to
be
looked
at
strictly,
as
it
relates
to
how
police
might
interact
with
those
problems,
because
the
way
they're
worded
they
sound
more
broad?
And
so
I'm
just
musing,
because
this
has
been
an
ongoing
discussion?
What
does
public
safety
mean
and
entail.
D
F
Okay,
perhaps
I
can
just
put
my
two
cents
in
there
every
time.
The
first
person,
the
first
agency,
which
is
always
called
in
domestic
violence,
is
the
police
so
under
under
that
I
say
it's
public
safety,
which
is
true
and
it
comes
under
what
we
are
told
to
do,
and
I
agree
with
joan
what
was
our
original
premise:
what's
our
original
duties
as
psap?
B
Yes,
the
the
scope
of
the
the
psab
is
directly
related
to
advising
the
police
department
on
and
and
taking
in
community
input
and
advising
the
city
council
on
police
matters.
It
wasn't
defined
broadly
as
public
safety
or
public
health
in
terms
of
items
13
and
14,
and
the
question
that
member
ir
has
brought
up.
B
I
think
that's
a
good
dialogue
for
you
to
have
amongst
yourselves
in
terms
of
the
people
who
put
forward
those
items,
and
I
I
think,
with
domestic
violence.
What
I
heard
from
the
proponent
was
that
it
was
around
making
the
police
department's
services
more
accessible
to
people
who
may
not
feel
because
of
their
documentation
status
that
they
could
could
report
so
that
that
felt,
as
as
member
sandhu
stated
as
related
in
terms
of
substance
abuse.
B
A
H
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
conflicting
information
because
I
was
around
for
the
creation
of
the
psab
and
I
remember
the
I
don't
know
if
it
has
been
codified
as
being
strictly
related
to
mvpd,
but
I
remember
the
I
don't
remember
exactly
who
would
have
said
it,
but
I
remember
it
having
been
said
that
it
was
named
public
safety
advisory
board
because
it
did
not
they.
They
did
not
want
to
limit
it
to
strictly
policing
issues.
H
B
Way
that
it
was
described
in
the
report
that
went
to
the
council
and
the
way
that
it's
described
on
the
website
website
regarding
the
general
functions
of
the
advisory
board
and
the
the
general
purpose
statement
is
to
advise
and
make
recommendations
to
the
council,
city
manager
and
police
chief
on
public
safety.
Matters
doesn't
say,
policing
matters,
it
does
say
public
safety
matters,
but
it's
described
as
being
to
the
council,
the
manager
and
the
police
chief
in
terms
of
the
functions
it's
providing.
The
council
manager
and
police
chief
with
community
informed
input
and
recommendations
on
public.
C
I
Darn
it
this
one,
I'm
one
meeting
where
I
don't
do
that,
I
I
don't
know
that's.
Oh
it's
open
a
little.
Isn't
it
it's
a
little
fuzzy
there
that
description?
So
it's
interesting.
I
wanted
to
hear
from
the
proponent
whoever
proposed
13
a
little
bit
more
detail
of
of
what
the
intent
was
there
and
how
it
relates
back
to
public
safety.
What
was
your
thinking.
I
N
If
we
want
to
examine
this
issue,
because
I
think
the
police
department
probably
knows
a
lot
more
about
substance
use
in
our
community
than
I
guess
a
different
border,
they
they
have
valuable
input.
So
on
this
issue,
I
I
think
we
could
explore
it
on
this
board
because
of
that
reason,
so
taking
into
account
police
knowledge
and
and
and
all
of
that,
to
make
a
recommendation
or
to
examine
beyond
the
police
aspect.
A
I
think
also
along
with
the
one
that
I
had
suggested,
the
intent
my
perspective
was
also
with
the
inclusion
of
fentanyl
and
so
many
things
that
people
are
using
a
lot
of
young
students
aren't
aware
of
its
prevalence
in
drugs,
and
so
my
thought
was
that
maybe
the
sro
team
could
assist.
You
know
school
the
school
system
in
describing
and
explaining
and
making
sure
the
students
had
this
awareness
and
so
again
using
the
sros
to
sort
of
make.
A
E
I
Yes,
here
I
have
my
hand
raised.
I
I
keep
raising
my
hand
because
I
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
I'm
supposed
to
just
jump
in
so
it's
like
I
okay,
at
least
I
don't
think
so.
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
say
something
and
then
someone's
gonna
say
something
back
and
then
I'm
gonna
raise
my
hand
again
to
say
something.
Is
that
that's
the
correct
thing
right
so
trying
to
be
polite?
Here
I
was
okay.
I
Miss
ramberg,
if
you
could
comment
more
about
the
thinking
on
limiting
the
number
of
items,
is
it
just
sanity?
You
know
like
you
can't
you
can't
do
everything.
So
can
you
talk
more
about
it
because
I
I
don't
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
epc
or
hrc
lists
like
I
don't
know
how
meaty
those
topic
their
you
know,
10
13
items
are,
and
I
was
curious
in
your
experience.
What's
the
the
benefit
of
us
being
more,
you
know
being
more
limited
with
our
scope
or
our
work
plan
scope.
B
There's
a
lot
of
variety
variability
across
the
the
commissions,
depending
on
what
their
their
mission
is
and
and
the
epc
you
know
they
are
a
quasi-judicial
body
that
has
a
very
specific
role
in
reviewing
development
and
long-range
planning
and,
being
you
know,
part
of
the
the
process
of
community
input
for
certain
kinds
of
things
that
come
through
to
the
council
and
then
on.
The
other.
You
know
like
another
model,
or
example,
would
be
the
human
relations
commission
which-
and
I
would
say
the
epc,
doesn't
do
anything
between
meetings.
They
don't
have
subcommittees.
B
They
have
staff
who
are
already
have
to
be
reviewing
these
development
proposals
and
analyzing
them
and
applying
their
professional
expertise.
And
then
then
the
epc
is
a
stop
along
the
way
for
that
work.
So
the
epc's
work
plan
is
is
more
driven
by
things
that
that
are
already
on
staff's
plate
and
whereas
things
like
and
and
and
prc
is
often
similar
to
that
as
well,
where
there
are
park,
designs
and
master
plans
around
open
space
or
or
trees
or
biodiversity.
B
That
are
things
that
are
on
the
staff's
work
plan,
either
because
they
are
generated
by
work
that
the
staff
has
identified
as
necessary
in
understanding
community
and
understanding
and
meeting
community
needs,
or
something
that
the
council
has
adopted
as
part
of
its
strategic
roadmap
and
its
work
plan.
And
then
that
gets
assigned
to
the
staff.
And
then
the
staff
engages
the
the
commission
in
those
items
and
so
there's
just
a
variety
of
different
ways.
B
B
In
in
terms
of
saying,
we
have
an
interest
in
learning
more
about
something
and
bringing
something
to
awareness,
and
it's
going
to
take
some
level
of
research
and
analysis
and
work.
That
is
not
already
on
staff's
work
plan
and
therefore
needs
to
be
prioritized
so
that
you
know,
because
no
no
commission
has
a
full-time
staff
person.
You
know
in
the
instance
of
mike
and
myself
this.
B
This
is
an
important
part
of
our
jobs,
but
it's
one
of
of
of
many
things
that
we
we
are
responsible
for
and
and
and
and
also
it's
with
the
subcommittee's.
It's
time
from
the
the
subcommittee
members
too,
from
the
from
the
commission
members
and
in
my
experience,
providing
staff
support
to
the
hrc,
I've
just
kind
of
seen
what
the
a
group
of
very
dedicated
and
talented
volunteers
may
wish
to
do,
and
then
what
winds
up
being
practically
accomplished
within
the
course
of
a
one-year
work
plan
and
for
the
hrc,
for
example?
B
They
have
under
a
couple
of
their
recent
meetings,
actually
pulled
this
item
off
of
consent
pulled
items
off
of
work
plans
because
they
are
concerned
about
the
the
workload
and
the
capacity
of
staff,
and
you
know
if
you
have
been
able
to
see
we're
able
to
see
the
june
14th
presentation
that
the
city
manager
gave
about
budget.
You.
E
B
Yeah,
so
it
it
that
it's
not
meant
to
be
something.
That's
singling
out
psab,
he
said,
is
a
little
different
just
because
of
the
nature
of
of
of
kind
of
generating
these
new
ideas
and
looking
into
things,
but
it.
But
it
is
something
that,
across
the
board,
the
city
manager
and
the
city
council
are
very
sensitive
to.
I
Can
I
keep
going
captain
mike?
I
had
a
question
for
you
on
the
presentations
like
mvpd
recruitment
and
retention
retention
challenges.
What
support
services
are
happening
with
residents
living
in
vehicles?
Are
there
other
opportunities
planned
where
those
are
getting
presented
out
to
the
broader
community?
Or
could
there
be.
G
B
I
You
know
look
at
the
information
afterwards
versus
having
it
in
psab
because
we
do
have
you
know
what
feels
like,
probably
is
going
to
be
a
heavier
work
plan
than
we
had
last
year.
Of
course
we
have
a
longer
period
of
time,
this
time
so
yeah.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
but
I'm
reluctant
to
despite
the
public
comment,
I'm
reluctant
to
pull
those
off
because
I
think
context
is
important.
E
E
I
I
D
A
H
Oh,
I
was
just
going
to
offer
that
remember.
Iar's
questions
are
so
thorough
that
that
she
covers
all
the
points
that
I
think
some
people
may
have
had
some
people
some
point,
some
questions
that
people
may
have
had
but
like
like
you,
maybe
you
got
to
at
first,
I
don't
I
don't
know.
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
yeah.
F
Sometimes
when
you
literally
had
two
sessions
at
the
community
center
and
you
have
the
speakers
in
a
public
speaking
three
minutes
times.
90
people
lined
up
and
they're
all
off
topic,
but
you
know
that's
the
beauty
of
free
speech,
so
if
they
are
doing
it
and
it's
the
police
department
and
which
should
be
under
the
precept
shouldn't
we
be
doing
it.
I
hope
I
made
some
sense
with
that
question.
B
F
Yes,
we
had
once
we
did
that
where
we
had
the
public
come
out.
I
think
that
was
when
we
were
talking
about
racial
profiling
and
also
it
was
when
we
were
working
on
authorizing
the
tastes.
We
were
one
of
the
first
cities
and
what
we
wanted
the
police
department
to
do.
But
what
I'm
talking
mainly
right
now-
and
maybe
I
mixed
two
of
them,
but
mainly
during
the
profiling-
is
the
hrc
doing
that
now
still.
F
Do,
oh
really
that
was
huge
in
the
hrc,
then,
but
I'm
a
dinosaur
from
there
anyways.
So
if
that's
not,
I
think,
then
it's
crucial
that
we
have
it,
because
it's
a
very,
very
important
item
and
that
can
show
shed
a
lot
of
light
on
what
the
pd
really
does
and
and
that
will
show
the
public
exactly
the
community
exactly
where
ever
what
the
standing
is
with
the
statistics.
I
B
Sometimes
they
add
things
because
they
want
to
make
a
referral,
something
that
they
would
like
to
see
a
commission
do
sometimes
they
say
we're
not
interested
in
that
we'd
like
to
take
that
off
or
sometimes
they've
said.
That
seems
like
too
much
and
that
yeah
I
I
lost
whatever
my
other
point
was
gonna
be
but
yeah
you,
you
accurately
summarized
it.
I
B
E
B
They
they
don't
set
policy,
they
they
advise.
The
council
and
the
council
therefore
needs
to
be
aware
of
the
the
things
that
each
advisory
board
is
working
on
and
feel
like
the
the
city
is
in
a
you
know,
in
a
place
where
it
can
support
the
work
of
each
of
those
advisory
boards
and
then-
and
then
you
know,
approve
that.
B
You
do
what
what
what
you
need
to
do
is
you
know.
I
guess
if,
if
there's
been
some
discussion
about
whether
any
of
the
items
in
table
two
a
which
staff
has
put
forward
as
as
suggested
to
be
included,
because
you
know,
for
example,
the
mental
health
crisis
response
and
the
police
traffic
data.
That's
an
existing
item
that
won't
be
completed.
B
Those
are
existing
items
that
won't
be
completed
and
then
some
other
ongoing
ones
and
then
also
some
informational
ones,
which
it
was
mike's
and
and
my
call
to
say,
because
they
weren't
heavy
lifts.
We
and-
and
there
seemed
to
be
a
piece
of
interest,
that
we
would
be
happy
to
prepare
the
information
item
and
bring
them.
It
was
raised
as
to
whether
some
of
those
things
are
as
important
to
the
psab
as
other
things.
A
B
A
A
D
I
E
I
B
C
D
B
The
mvp
d
annual
report
is
typically
spring
and
I
and
I
think-
and
I
also
have
to
look
at
what
the
requirements
are
for
the
ab-481
if
it's
annual
based
on
when
it's
adopted
and
it
was
adopted
by
the
council
in
in
april.
I
believe,
then,
that
could
work
out
that
those
would
be
on
the
same
agenda.
But
I
I
don't.
I
don't
again
think
that
it
makes
a
difference
in
terms
of
what
the
preparation
is
they're,
very
different
things
that
that
need
to
be
done
to
prepare
for
them.
F
I
I
agree
with
both
akweda
and
june
members
that
nine,
since
ninth
is
gonna,
be
out
one
through
eleven
one
through
eleven
minus
nine
is
good
with
me
and
if
there's
any
possibility
of
like
four
five
six,
maybe
four
and
five
been
combined
at
the
same
time
to
save
time
and
effort.
That
would
be
good,
but
otherwise
I'm
fine
with
the
way
things
are.
Thank
you.
N
I
think
I
agree
that
item
nine
might
not
be
so
important
to
be
on
our
work
plan,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
it
in
the
sro
like
procedure
manual
as
a
priority
and
something
that
happens
repeatedly
for
item
10
and
11.
I
think
just
for
me.
I
don't,
I
don't
feel
like
it
needs
to
what's
happening.
I
don't
feel
like
it
needs
to
be
included
just
for
me
because
I
feel
like
there's
nothing
well,
there
are
things,
but
I
don't.
N
I
just
don't
know
how
workable
or
impactful
it
could
be,
and
if
we
wanted
context,
I
guess
in
another
sense
or
if
we
had
a
work
plan
item
in
a
future
year
that
related
to
actions
we
could
take
are
on
these
topics.
Then
perhaps
we
could
have
these
presentations
then,
when
we
have
steps
that
we
want
to
take
after
it
as
well.
So
those
are
my
thoughts,
including
nine
on
december
manual
and
then
10
and
11..
H
I
too
would
like
to
remove
item
nine,
mostly
because
it
is,
is
presenting
to
students
and
does
not
necessarily
involve
us.
I
do
think
that
giving
information
to
students
is
important,
though,
so
I
hope
that
captain
canfield
makes
note
of
that
already.
I
would
also
like
to
remove
item
10
because
it
is
informational,
I
think,
contrary
to
vice
chair
wings,
comments
on
possibly
11.
H
A
O
A
And
and
just
just
a
little
context
on
nine,
the
the
action
item
on
that
was
to
advise
the
sros
to
create
a
program
or
a
presentation
for
students
that
they
could
use
as
part
of
the
outreach.
So
that
was
again
I
feel
like
they
already
do
that.
So
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
that
for
us
to
have
out
of
that
plan
to
be
removed.
A
I
feel
like
this
is
something
that
if
we
are
working
on
the
on
the
data
component
and
that
there's
going
to
be
a
website,
I
feel
like
that's
something
that
could
be
rolled
into
that
effort
and
that
information
could
be
placed
there
and
maybe
not
need
to
be
in
our
meeting.
But
I
know
that
there's
there
may
be
some
specific
requests
from
the
council
for
us
to
review
that
data.
E
A
A
B
If,
if
I
might
I'm
sorry
for
interrupting
chair
frank,
I
have
a
spreadsheet
and
it's
easy
to.
It
makes
it
easy
for
me
to
keep
track
of
of
kind
of
who's
who's,
saying
not
so
much
who's
saying
what,
but,
where
we
end
up
at
the
end
of
everybody
saying
their
piece.
So
is
it
okay
with
you?
If
I
share
my
screen.
B
O
O
H
H
A
H
I
N
N
The
reason
I'm
a
little
bit
hesitant
about
it
is
because
we
do
have
a
subcommittee
currently
on
traffic,
stop
bias,
which
is
still
like
a
different
issue
from
bias
and
extreme
views
and
policing,
but
I
feel
like
it
still
addresses
buyers
in
our
police
department.
So
I
would
personally
like
to
see
that
and
the
results
of
the
traffic
stop.
So
I'm
gonna
traffic
stop
stop
bias,
subcommittee's,
work
first
and
potentially
add
in
item
12
as
a
work
plan
item
for
next
year
after
the
subcommittee
has
included
its
work.
B
There
would
need
to
be
a
priority
that
this
is
something
that
you
want
to
do,
and
I
I
think
there
is
an
expectation
that
the
current
work
will
will
end
at
some
point.
I
just
don't
know
when
in
the
next
fiscal
year
it
will
end,
and
so
I
I
think
that
the
idea
of
combining
scope
into
existing
vehicles
doesn't
really
reduce.
The
you
know
doesn't
really
reduce
the
scope,
doesn't
really
reduce
the
workload
impact.
B
E
I
Okay,
so
I'd
like
to
see
12,
I
feel
that
13
is
inextricably
linked
to
what
we're
looking
at
with
mental
health.
It's
just
there
and
my
intention
vice
chair
wang
is
to
do
substance.
Abuse
looking
at
that,
especially
in
youth.
Do
that
justice
in
our
subcommittee
work
it's
hard
because
15
is
like
14.
Is
this
big
thing
and
15?
Is
this
relatively
little
thing,
and
so
it's
hard?
Why
are
the
you
know?
Why
are
the
votes
equal
there
or
how
can
the
votes
be
equal?
I
I
B
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
everybody
who's
commented
in
support
of
the
sro
mou
feels
that
it
is
not
only
something
you
think
is
appropriate
to
do,
but
a
smaller,
lift
and
you're
lobbying
to
have
not
be
limited
to.
If
this
was
one
of
your
votes,
you're
lobbying,
to
not
be
limited
to
two
votes.
Is
that
what
I'm
I'm
hearing.
B
A
B
B
So
I
I
think
what
I,
what
I
I
think
is
important
to
hear
is:
does
a
majority
of
the
the
psab
you
know
want
to
have
you
know?
Maybe
we
take
the
sro
item
out?
Maybe
that's
the
way
we
keep
it
to
to
the
the
process.
Having
some
degree
of
of
of
consistency
across
you
know,
for
for
people
who
didn't
choose
it
to
have
two
votes
and
people
who
want
to
choose
it
to
have
three
votes
doesn't
seem
quite
quite
consistent.
B
Maybe
we
take
item
15
separately
and
allow
each
of
you
to
to
determine.
You
know
whether
you
would
like
to
have
that
be
in
your
work
plan
and
if
it
has
a
majority
support,
then
you
would
still
have
your
two
votes,
eva
and
jeanette,
and
I'm
sorry,
commissioner
tang
vice
chair
wang
and
commissioner
iar.
A
May
I
ask
so
it
is
so
the
nru
is
a
legal
document.
Is
that
not
correct
it's
a
legal
agreement?
It
is,
I
just
don't
feel
like
there's
an
opportunity
to
advise
on
a
legal
agreement
between
the
city
with
two
government
bodies,
essentially
right,
the
school
system
and
the
city.
That's
all
going
to
happen
between.
You
know
the
city's
attorneys
and
the
district's
attorneys,
and
I
don't
really
know
how
there's
a
way
to
affect
that
from
this
body.
B
It
reflects
what
went
to
the
city
council
by
by
and
large,
and
what
went
to
the
city
council
was
informed
in
great
part
by
the
work
done
by
the
the
psab
and
the
recommendations
that
came
from
the
psab,
and
so
were
this
to
be
something
that
that
council
agreed
that
it
would
be
valuable
to
have
the
psat
play
a
role
and
your
comments
were
your
your
input
or
your
feedback
related
to
things.
That
would
be
the
appropriate
kind
of
thing
to
include
in
mou.
B
Then
the
attorneys
would
have
to
put
it
into
legal
language
right.
We
wouldn't
be
expecting
that
you
guys
would
be
wordsmithing
it
in
and
developing
the
legal
language.
So
you
know
were
it
to
be
something
that
a
majority
of
the
peace
have
wished
to
ask
council
to
have
be
part
of
your
work
plan
and
the
council
were
to
agree
to
that.
Then
then
it
would,
you
know,
have
been
through
attorney
review
it.
B
N
N
Okay
and
then,
for
the
other
thing
I
want
to
talk
about,
is
for
item
12,
because
I
noticed
there's
a
lot
of
support
around
it,
and
I
do
think
that
it's
super
important
that
we,
you
know,
talk
about
and
address
it,
but
I
also
I
feel
like
when
I'm
reading
it.
It
says
like
examine
the
state,
audit,
auditor's
report
and
related
legislation.
N
I
guess
for
the
state
auditor's
report
to
me,
that's
kind
of
like
reread
it
and
learn
about
current
and
potential
practices
to
prevent
this
in
mvpd,
I'm
wondering
if,
after
we
do
that,
and
we
learn
about
these
practices
like.
Are
we
going
to
suggest
that
like?
Are
we
going
to
make
a
recommendation
and
have
them?
N
I
I
do
see
how
the
topic
itself
is
very
important,
but
I'd
like
to
see
kind
of
ways
that
it
could
be
more
impactful,
because
I
think
personally,
if
I'm
like,
comparing
12,
13
and
14,
something
that
I'm
looking
at
when
I'm
looking
at
all
these
items
is
how
to
or
like
how
are
we
responding
to
things
that
are
currently
happening
in
our
community,
and
I
feel
like
for
me
item.
13
is
a
lot
more
relevant.
I've
heard
a
lot
more
community
members
talking
about
it
than
item
12.
N
A
So
I
think
the
the
purpose
behind
12
is
to
examine
how
our
department
ensures
that
we
don't
hire
police
officers
who
have
extreme
views
and,
if
there's
anything,
that
we
could
advise
the
council
on
to
advise
the
police
department
to
continue
that
process
to
the
best
of
their
ability
and
keep
it
as
good
as
it
is
that
I
think
that
would
be
our
role
there.
Does
that
sound
close,
mr
member.
N
So
I
guess
this
is
like
a
little
bit
of
a
longer
question,
but
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
learn
a
little
bit
about
like
it's
separate,
but
also
what
the
current
committee
we
have
focusing
on
bias
is
working
on
and
how
that
could
potentially
intersect
with
number
12.
yeah.
That
was
kind
of
a
statement,
but
that
is
my
question.
B
G
Yeah
absolutely
yeah
they're,
they're,
substantively
different
topics
and
the
subcommittee,
although
it
could
handle
that
issue
in
theory,
would
essentially
be
a
separate
subcommittee.
It's
very
different,
the
the
examination
of
ripa
data,
how
to
make
that
accessible
to
the
community.
What
what
our
diverse
community
wants
out
of
that
ripa
data-
and
you
know
the
nuances
of
that-
are
very
different
than
the
extremist
views
that
that
you
know
may
be
present
in
law
enforcement
in
the
examination
of
the
monopoly.
So
there's
maybe
on
with.
C
H
I
Thanks
chair,
I
was
wondering:
where
are
we
with
the
mou
development?
Is
it
on
track
to
be
signed
before
the
start
of
this
new
school
year,
or
will
there
be
some
sort
of
extension
of
some
previous
agreement?
I
know
in
one
district
we
don't
even
have
an
agreement,
so
I
was
curious
about
that
and
if,
if
council
only
adjusts
our
work
plan
in
september,
do
we
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
council
to
look
at
it
if
the
mou
is
going
to
be
done
before
september.
G
And
I
can
answer
the
other
portion
of
the
question:
yeah
yeah.
We
are
anticipating
that
the
mou
will
be
ready
before
the
school
year
starts
for
both
districts.
However,
we
have
reached
the
point
where
we're
providing
a
product
to
lawyers
to
examine
at
this
point,
so
they
have
a
different
kind
of
basis
for
scrutiny,
so
their
timelines
are,
you
know,
not
our
timelines.
G
So,
although
I'm
optimistic,
I
can't
guarantee
how
long
it
will
take
for
them,
but
I
anticipate
that
it
will
be
ready
before
the
school
year
for
both
and
if
I
can
just
add
one,
maybe
a
point
of
clarification
from
previous
items
that
are
added
into
an
mou
are
much
more
complex
to
change
and
adjust.
So,
for
example,
something
like
the
metrics
for
an
evaluation
of
a
program
that
mou
is
an
agreement.
That's
going
to
exist,
for
you
know
the
defined
amount
of
time
between
the
the
two
governmental
bodies,
the
manual.
G
We
have
the
ability
to
adapt
and
adjust
much
easier.
So
as
it
stands
now,
that's
where
the
the
evaluation
of
the
program
exists,
but
I
think
not
only
is
that
the
best
place,
but
that
place
will
allow
for
the
intent
that
the
board
has
now,
which
is
continuous
growth
of
the
program
and
continuous
evaluation
by
placing
it
in
that
manual.
That
enables
us
to
do
a
better
job
and
avoid
some
of
that
obligatory
red
tape.
I
I
I
I
would
just
like
to
propose
that,
should
the
timeline
and
the
mou
not
happen
before
the
school
year,
I
would
like
this
to
go
to.
I
would
like
it
to
go
to
council
to
be
considered
that
we
see
it.
Obviously,
if
it
gets
approved,
then
there's
a
point,
but
I
I'm
not
sure
if
we
need
to
do
anything
today
to
capture
that
or
if
we
would
just
discuss
it
at
a
future
meeting
depending
on
timeline
and
then
bring
it
up
or
how
we
would
handle
that.
B
I
think
I'd
like
I'm
still
suggesting
that
the
the
board
have
the
opportunity
to
determine
if
that
is
what
the
majority
of
the
peace
app
would
like
to
have
happen,
and
then
it
would
be
conditional
in
the
way
that
you
put
it
forward.
Remember
ir
that
it
would
be
included
in
that
september
report
as
the
the
the
interest
of
the
majority
of
the
board.
B
A
Yeah,
I
feel
again
that
the
mou
is
a
legal
agreement
between
the
districts
and
the
governmental
bodies,
and
the
handbook
is
where
we
have
the
opportunity
to
make
policy
impact,
because
that
is
how
they
are
going
to
do
the
work,
and
we
already
have
that
because
that
is
in
our
plan.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
be
involved
in
the
mou.
That's
just
my
perspective.
Currently,
this
way.
N
N
I
A
A
B
I
don't
see
how
it
is
the
same
thing
as
really
seeking
to
understand
the
substance,
abuse
problems
in
our
populations
and
then
developing
recommendations
on
how
to
address
them
that
it
may
be
that
the
same
group
of
people
would
would
want
to
work
on
that
topic.
But
I
don't
think
they're
the
same
topic.
N
F
H
H
A
I
feel
like
what
you
may
and
forgive
me
for
speaking
for
you,
but
I
think
what
you
were
thinking
is
the
response
to
a
person
having
a
substance.
Abuse
issue
is
a
bit
of
a
mental
health
crisis,
but
I
think
that
the
actual
item
is
more
about
the
source.
So
how
are
people
getting
into
substance
abuse
problems
and
how
can
we
prevent
that
and
those
are
slightly
different,
certainly
both
worthy.
E
A
A
B
These
would
be
some
pretty
big
things
to
add
into
the
other
things
that
you're
doing
I'm
not
seeing
that
13.
I
mean
I'm
asking
you
to
pick
one
and
right
now.
You've
got
two
that
have
majority
support
and
one
that
has
more
majority
support
than
other
things,
and
I
am
now
hearing
that
that
a
real
interest
to
to
consider
would
there
be
a
way
to
also
do
13.
But
I
only
see
there
being
one
vote
for
13.,
so
you're
saying.
B
A
I
O
I
Quick
before
I
forget
again,
I
wanted
to
share
actually
that
the
amount
I
in
when
I
had
a
different
hat
on
met
with
a
reporter
from
the
mountain
view,
voice
and
she
shared
she's,
doing
a
three-part
series
on
youth
and
substance
abuse
and
she
actually
wanted
to
come
and
talk
to
the
subcommittee
of
psab,
specifically
jeanette,
because
she's
still
a
teenager
and
she
was
focused
on
teens
and
and
so
I
think
you
know
in
my
mind
that
kind
of
conflated,
some
things
together.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
thing.
I
I
think
some
work
is
going
to
come
out
of
that
that
we
can
inform
her
and
she
can
inform
us.
So
I
think
that's
why
I
was
like
you
know.
The
subcommittee
is
going
to
be
involved
in
this
somehow,
but
I
take
the
point
that
you
know
right
now.
The
work
plan
doesn't
say
we're
going
to
provide
recommendations
on
how
to
address
the
problem,
but
I
think
you
know
when
you
start
profiling
and
you
find
out
things
you
can't
help.
I
But
or
maybe
this
is
just
me-
I
can't
help
but
say
well,
then
this
should
happen,
or
this
should
happen
right.
It
starts
to
become
clear
where
the
gaps
you
know
in
the
picture
are,
and
so
I
thought
organically
it
was
going
to
happen,
and
maybe
that
was
naive
of
me,
but
that's
anyway.
Those
were
other
things
that
were
going
on
in
my
head
that
were
informing
my
my
choice.
N
Awesome,
I
guess
before
we
finalize
our
vote,
I
just
like
to,
I
guess,
like
encourage
the
rest
of
the
board
to
reconsider
number
13.,
especially
because
I
feel
like
right
now.
There's
a
lot
of
community
awareness
and
interest
and
passion
around
it
and
I
feel
like
if
we
that's
something
that,
because
the
community
is
thinking
about
it,
so
much
right
now
that
we
could
really
have
an
impact
and
people
would
pay
attention
to.
I
guess
the
things
that
we
find
and
and
the
the
strategies
that
we
could
potentially
implement
in
mountain
view.
N
In
addition,
I
think
not
to
say
that
the
other
items
are
not
important
because
they're
all
very
important,
but
I
think
just
when
I
focus
on,
I
guess
mount
view
as
a
community.
That's
what
I
find
to
be
one
of
the
higher
priorities
in
comparison
to
kind
of
looking
at
things
that
are
of
interest
nationally.
C
B
B
It
is.
This
is
hard.
This
is
a
hard
thing
to
do
and
the
ways
that
you
really
try
to
to
hear
each
other's
points
of
view
and
communicate.
Clearly
why
things
mattered
to
you
and
try
to
be
creative
about?
Maybe
you
know,
could
we
you
know
squeeze
things
in
and
and
find
other
ways
to
make
them
work?
Are
I
I
really
take
that
as
a
as
an
indication
of
the
commitment
that
you
all
have
to
to
these
important
issues
and
just
to
acknowledge
it's
hard?
It's
it's
not!
You
know.
A
D
They
make
the
situation
worse
and
frankly,
I
think
all
of
those
statements
are
prejudiced,
but
that's
one
of
the
points
I
wanted
to
make
and
what
people
who
talk
to
me
about
this
say.
Well,
they
want
somebody
trained.
They
want
a
psychologist.
They
want
somebody,
a
psychiatric
social
worker,
to
to
do
this
job
rather
than
for
a
policeman
to
answer
the
911
call
and
we've
already
seen
that
this
is
well.
D
D
I
I
just
look
at
my
myself
if
I
were
younger
or
even
now,
if
I
were
called
out
to
even
if
I
were
trained
as
a
psychologist,
if
I
were
called
out
to
an
emergency
and
didn't
have
a
weapon,
I
would
be
afraid
and
a
few
psychologists
I've
talked
to
about
this-
have
told
me
the
same
thing,
so
I
I
think
it's
there's
a
whole
lot
impractical
about
this.
This
kind
of
constant
push
we've
got
to
get
police
out
of
this.
D
At
some
point
I
know
it
can't
be
done
now,
because
we've
got
we've
got
another
work
plan,
but
I
wanted
to
put
it
forth
now
and
I
want
to
hear
about
people
who
really
deal
with
irrational
people,
because
I
wouldn't
have
a
clue
how
to
do
it
and
I
think
probably,
a
lot
of
people
in
our
police
department
do
know,
and
probably
a
lot
of
psychologists
do
too,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
they
wouldn't
want
to
have
some
backup
and
the
other
problem
with
getting
psychologists.
Is
it
takes
so
long?
D
You
can
get
a
police
department
to
a
call
within
a
few
minutes
and
it
usually
takes
an
hour
in
any
of
the
mental
health
programs
that
sound,
wonderful
and
I'm
really
glad
they're
there.
But
again,
I'm
talking
about
practicality,
so
I
wanted
to
put
it
out
there.
So
that's
the
end
of
my
lecture
of
that
lecture.
Here
comes
another
one.
D
About
a
year
ago,
more
than
that
two
years
ago,
in
2020
there
was
a
guy
who
was
parked
on
castro
street
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
he
sued
the
police
department
because
he
said
that
he
was
dragged
out
of
out
of
his
car
and
he
was
injured
and
all
that
the
police
wanted
him
to
identify
himself
and
he
refused
to
do
it.
And
there
was
a
fight
about
essentially
about
procedure,
and
so
he
sued
the
department
for
brutality
and
I'd
like
to
know.
D
D
The
the
bad
guys
are
brought
before
a
judge
and
the
judge
lets
them
go
and
they're
back
on
the
street
to
do
the
same
thing.
So
this
is
what
I'm
hearing,
but
the
I'm
hearing
mostly
about
the
suffering,
and
I
wanted
to
put
that
up
too,
and
I
just
hope
we
can
think
about
it.
And
if
anybody
in
the
meantime
has
any
suggestion,
because
none
of
this
is
agendized,
send
me
an
email
and
maybe
we
can
get
this
on
next
year.
A
E
A
A
In
addition,
I
know
some
of
the
members
of
the
public
were
asking
for
members
of
the
board
to
be
more
involved
in
the
presentations
themselves,
which
can
be
very
difficult
if
you
guys
are
working
on
on
a
presentation
right
up
until
a
couple
days
before
the
meeting,
and
then
we
only
have
a
day
or
two
to
actually
review
the
content.
If
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
give
ourselves
more
time
between
meetings
to
work
and
be
able
to
provide
a
more
a
media
presentation.
A
So
that's
my
one
question
and
then
the
second
question
that
I
have
for
staff
is:
should
we
consider
having
members
of
our
board-
and
I
can't
remember
if
we've
discussed
this
before-
I
think
a
lot
of
us
have
done
this,
but
should
we
consider
how
the
members
of
our
board
do
ride-alongs
with
the
department
in
traffic
patrol
and
or
sro
teams?
I
think
that
would
be
kind
of
fun.
A
B
So
I
can
respond,
certainly
to
the
first
question
and
your
second
one.
Might
it's
certainly
something
we
can
make
possible
the
right
alongs
if
people
are
interested,
so
I
perhaps
your
colleagues
can
consider
themselves
encouraged
by
your
comments
and
captain
canfield.
Is
that
correct
that?
That's
something
that
we
can
accommodate.
B
That,
basically,
is
like
a
three
window,
because
we
begin
creating
the
agenda
and
putting
together
the
materials
they
can
go
through
document
processing
and
if
we're
working
with
the
subcommittee
and
the
subcommittee
is
all
processing
the
information
and
contributing
and
having
input
and
then
being
prepared
to
to
present
whatever
goes
into
the
packet.
I
do.
B
I
do
see
some
advantage
of
having
more
time
in
between
meetings
and
then
things
coming
and
being
a
little
bit,
maybe
more
meaty,
rather
than
just
kind
of
iterative
updates,
with
with
a
little
bit
of
incremental
progress
of
what
was
able
to
happen
in
the
you
know,
three
or
so
weeks
since,
since
the
last
meeting
and
I'd
like
to
explore
that
as
and
bring
that
back,
you
know
we
can't
really
talk
about
that
substantively
or
have
any
any
action
on
it.
But
you
you
are
all
asked.
F
B
A
I
A
Definitely,
thank
you
all
for
sharing
your
evening
with
us,
you're
all
great
great
parts
of
my
life,
because
I
I
am
very
much
enjoying
this
work,
and
especially
members
of
the
public
who
come
every
week.
You
are
greatly
appreciated
as
well,
so
thank
you
for
your
community
service
and
with
that
we
are
adjourned.