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Live teleconference meeting of the Mountain View Public Safety Advisory Board Meeting scheduled for 7:00 PM, Thursday July 22, 2021.
A
Friendly
interaction
that
people
felt
were
was
positive
and
pleasant,
and
so
those
were
the
the
highest
number
of
mentions
and
I
will
move
on.
Actually,
I
probably
should,
even
though
it
was
just
three
mentions
since
I
know
you
are
looking
at
the
school
resource
officer
program,
there
were
three
mentions
by
parents
about
their
their
liking
and
feeling
safe
with
school
resource
officers
being
on
school
campus.
A
42
mentions
for
race-based
or
biased
policing,
and
these
were
stories
where
the
police
were
proceeded
to
be
contacting
people
because
of
their
race
or
having
been
called
to
respond
to
an
issue
because
of
a
person's
race
or
treating
a
person
in
a
way
that
was
different
because
of
their
race
and
and
and
not
just
race.
But
socioeconomic
characteristics
were
part
of
those
stories.
A
41
mentions
for
where
stories
of
police
not
being
the
appropriate
personnel,
but
rather
another
type
of
help
would
have
been
better
to
respond
to
a
call
for
service,
and
this
was
primarily
around
mental
health
needs,
but
also
related
to
the
presence
of
school
resource
offices
on
officers
on
school
campuses.
Working
with
youth
35
mentions
for
the
need
for
police
training,
and
these
were
stories
suggesting
that
more
training
or
better
training
or
different
kinds
of
training
would
improve
interpersonal
skills,
which
I
guess
relates
back
to
the
perception
of
being
treated.
A
There
were
27
mentions
of
negative
community
relations.
This
is
kind
of
the
flip
side
of
the
coin
of
the
positive
community
relations
in
the
prior
slide,
where
people
felt
just
the
way
that
the
police
were
present
in
the
community
created
a
negative
impression,
not
a
positive
one,
and
then
the
last
one
I'll
go
through
is
the
need
for
police
accountability
and
transparency
with
23
mentions,
and
these
were
stories
where
people
wanted
to
understand
police
practices
and
policies
better
wanted
to
have
a
more
satisfactory
way
to
address
complaints
and
those
kinds
of
things.
A
A
A
B
C
Yeah,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
are
any
for
what
they're
called
but
like
if
we
happen
to
know
any
like
more
personal
information
about
the
people
in
the
in
the
forums
which
I
totally
understand.
If
we
don't
and
I'm
kind
of
wondering
if
there
was
anything
like
any
trends
about
different
treatments
based
on
the
areas
that
people
live
in
mountain
view,.
A
A
Obviously
they
couldn't
be
anonymous
if
they
were
on
a
forum,
but
nothing
that
was
said
was
attributed
to
any
particular
person
and
we
didn't
really
collect
demographic
information.
I
mean
we
could.
We
could
observe
what
we
could
observe
in
the
forums,
but
for
the
online
platform.
We
didn't
collect
that
information,
so
we
don't
really
have
an
ability
to
break
the
the
data
down
into
different
kinds
of
groups,
including
location
of
where
people
live
within
the
the
city.
A
The
interviews,
probably
you
know,
are
easier
to
identify
by
location
and
especially
as
as
they
you
know,
there
were
several
of
folks
who
were
living
in
vehicles
and
at
least
where
they
lived
at
that
time
could
be
identified.
So
let
me
let
me
pause
and
see
if
ida
rose,
julie
or
annette
would
like
to
add
anything.
D
Thank
you
very
much
audrey
for
your
presentation
and
I'll
just
a
quick
stab
at
the
questions.
Well,
we
didn't
collect.
You
know
the.
Where
were
you
when
this
happened?
We
did
certainly
hear
it
at
times
where
things
happened,
but,
most
importantly,
I
I
want
to
stress
that
we
did
talk
to
a
wide
range
of
community
members
all
genders
all
ages.
D
F
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
the
point
that
we
did
make
some
attempt
to
get
some
general
demographic
information
for
the
forums
themselves
and
and
then
I
would
say
for
the
interviews,
we
did
get
some
demographic
data
that
folks
chose
to
share
with
us
and
for
the
anonymous
stories
that
were
submitted
via
the
portal.
We
did
not
ask
for
any
information.
F
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
This
comment
is
more
directed
towards
the
members
of
the
hrc
and
I
guess
it's
kind
of
a
two-part
question.
First
would
be
like
having
gone
through
this
process.
What
key
takeaways
and
overall,
I
guess
insights,
have
you
taken
away
from
from
this
process
and
also
it's
one
thing
to
collect
this
kind
of
data,
but
it's
another
thing
to
do
something
with
it.
D
I
think
I
will
it's
a
big
big
question,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that
very
thoughtful
question,
eva.
I
guess
I'll
take
it
in
two
parts.
Although
my
responses
are
pretty
much
linked.
When
we
did
this
work,
we
knew
that
we
would
be
uncovering
nuggets
of
where
issues
and
opportunities
and
where
you
know
good
things
were
happening
as
well.
D
I
think
particularly,
we
saw
that
with
our
homeless,
with
youth
actually
a
little
bit
with
seniors,
although
we
didn't
focus
on
that
demographic
and
with
some
members
of
the
non-english
speaking
population,
particularly
those
of
the
latinx
that
are
latinx.
So
we
did
notice
that
that
there
were
a
lot
of
comments
that
we
thought
would
lead
that
do
lead
to
follow-up
work,
and
we
we
didn't
go
into
what
that
follow-up
work
could
look
like.
D
We
purposefully
did
not
involve
the
police
in
in
our
forums
because
we
wanted
to
be
people
to
be
able
to
speak
without
concern
of
repercussion
without
any
kind
of
fear
of
being
listened
to
by
people.
They
didn't
want
to
hear
the
stories
directly
and
be
identified
with,
but
we
do
think
that
the
time
has
come
for
some
of
these
specific
groups
to
start
having
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
police
talk
about
their
experiences
on
an
ongoing
basis.
D
We've
even
heard
that
people
actually
wanted
to
get
more
information
about
how
to
work
with
the
police
like.
How
do
I
find
the
police?
When
do?
I
know
it's
an
appropriate
time
to
call
which
led
to
an
interesting
something
we
had
identified,
that
we
think
that
there
is
also
an
opportunity
for
the
police
to
hold
workshops
around
when
to
know
when
to
call
the
police.
D
F
Go
ahead,
julie,
okay,
thank
you!
Ida
rose.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
very
comprehensive
summary.
I'm
thinking
about
what
to
add.
I
would
like
to
make
one
point
that,
for
the
purposes
of
our
last
forum,
I
will
say
we
but
really
audrey
took
the
lead
on
developing
some
scenarios
based
on
our
actual
stories.
So
they
are
not
the
exact
stories
themselves.
F
So
I
wanted
the
group
to
know
that
we
do
have
those
available.
Let's
see,
in
addition
to
that,
I
know
that
there
is.
I
I
believe,
if
I
understand
correctly,
there
is
some
ongoing
discussion
on
the
psab
about
how
police
respond
to
people
who
are
living
with
mental
illness
or
who
have
developmental
disabilities,
and
I
think
that
is
definitely
an
area
for
further
discussion.
F
I
think
the
final
point
that
I'll
I'll
make
builds
on
something
that
ida
rose
said
about
the
importance
of
additional
training,
not
only
for
the
police,
but
really
education
for
the
community,
and
we
did
have.
It
was
on
one
of
the
slides
that
audrey
showed.
I
believe.
If
I'm
remembering
correctly,
we
had
eight
examples
of
stories
where
folks
were
actually
reporting
that
there
was
a
police
response.
That
seemed
to
involve
some
bias,
but
it
was
really
coming
from
a
community
bias.
H
H
H
In
that
sense,
something
that
I
don't
think
was
mentioned.
I
might
be
mistaken
because
of
technical
difficulties.
It
was
difficult
for
me
to
engage
earlier,
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention
in
terms
of
demographics,
I
think
that
certain
communities,
especially
communities
of
color
demographically,
might
not
be
highly
represented
in
the
mountain
view,
residential
commit
community,
that
is
to
say,
like
there,
aren't
there,
aren't
that
many
residents,
like
I
mean
who
are
we
didn't,
have
I'm
sorry
I'll,
just
be
a
little
bit
more
frank.
D
D
Who
is
the
appropriate
personnel
to
go
out
on
a
to
go
out
in
different
situations
was
mentioned
to
us
by
multiple
people,
because
you
have
people,
you
know
involving
the
cops
and
everything
from
a
barking
dog
to
an
attempted
murder
to
worse
right.
So
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
questioning
in
the
community
you
know
do
officers
belong
in
schools.
D
So
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
concern
that
in
the
community
as
a
whole,
that
policing
often
is
done
at
this
sort
of
you
know,
guns
blazing
level,
and
you
know,
but
what
is
the
actual
most
appropriate
response
in
a
given
circumstance
was
something
we
heard.
People
mention
a
lot
and
actually
a
second
point.
I'd
like
to
make
is,
I
don't
want
to
discount
all
of
the
positive
thoughts
that
we
got
from
the
community.
I
think
it's
worth
digging
in
to
why
people
made
positive
comments.
D
What
made
what
what
made
them
say:
positive
things
about
mountain
view,
police
and
really
dig
in
on
that
in
the
future,
to
understand
what
good
policing
means
to
the
community
of
mountain
view
and
you'll
see,
topics
like
I
feel
safe.
I
feel
secure
in
my
neighborhood.
I
feel
like
nothing.
Bad
is
going
to
happen.
D
You
you
hear
a
lot
of
personal
security
and
safety
issues
and
it'd
be
interesting
to
dive
into
that
to
what
that
really
means
to
everyone
in
our
community
and
the
demographics
of
people
who
said
things
that
were
positive,
we
heard
a
lot
of
positive
comments
from
the
mandarin
community
also
from
seniors,
but
we
heard
them
from
every
every
age
and
every
color
as
well.
We
heard
from
a
wide
range
of
people
who
had
some
positive
experiences.
D
I
I
A
A
B
J
You
I
actually
looked
down
here.
I
got
here
725,
you
are
better
than
me
in
timing,
so
thank
you,
members
of
the
hrc.
You
guys
soft
spot
in
my
heart,
because
first
day
I
was
going
to
join
you.
They
were
going
to
just
cancel
it.
This
is
back
in
2003.,
but
my
questions
is
commissioner.
Ida
rose
mentioned
about
the
domestic
violence
right
during
our
time.
J
We
I
made
sure
to
get
the
fbi
involved
to
reach
out
to
the
minority
community,
where
a
lot
of
domestic
violence
goes
unreported
and
and
one
thing
we
noticed
over-
that
time
was
when
you
reach
out
to
especially
the
latino
community.
Hardly
anybody
shows
up
how
did
you
since
then
you
have
zoom
and
all
that
stuff.
Obviously,
last
year
and
a
half
you
not
been
able
to
have
any
audience
or
be
doing
live
sessions.
Have
you
guys
overcome
that?
J
Do
you
still
face
the
same
problem,
because
the
communication
with
them
was
a
bit
difficult
for
the
our
subcommittee,
but
with
jeanette
and
eva
we
have
tried
work,
we're
working
with
nancy,
so
we
can
have
an
outreach
with
the
latino
community
and
we're
going
to
try
to
do
route
outreach
with
other
community
sections
of
our
great
mountain
view
community.
So
have
you
guys
overcome
that
or
is
this
still
prevalent?
Thank
you.
A
A
Is
you
know
at
that
time
in
particular,
but
in
general
people's
time
is
so
precious
and
they
are
working
so
hard
to
to
support
their
families
and
to
address
different
issues
that
they
they
really
kind
of
prioritize
and
and
don't
always
make
themselves.
You
know,
don't
don't
always
find
that
they're
able
to
make
themselves
available
for
for
these
kinds
of
efforts,
but
I'm
I'm
assuming
that
you,
through
melvin,
are
able
to
connect
into
the
city's
experience
and
expertise
through
our
multi-community
engagement.
A
F
You
know
to
talk
one-on-one
or
to
have
a
phone
conversation,
especially
if
a
trusted
community
leader
made
that
connection-
and
you
know,
got
that
phone
conversation
set
up
and
I
think
also
with
the
help
of
the
audrey.
Am
I
getting
the
name
right?
I
keep
calling
it
the
mcop.
The
multi-community
engagement
program
is
that
multicultural.
F
B
Thanks
I'm
looking
around
because
I
I
do
have
a
question,
but
I'm
trying
to
see
if
anyone
else
has
a
question:
okay,
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
mine,
then
audrey.
You
mentioned
that
as
one
of
the
actions
was
actually
discussing
the
report
findings
with
command
staff,
I
was
wondering
if
any
specific
actions
came
out
of
that
or
recommendations
or
next
steps.
K
Thank
you,
audrey
chair.
The
short
answer
is
yes,
many
actions
really
starting
with
just
sharing
those
stories
and
experiences
with
our
line
level
officers
and
school
resource
officers.
So
our
chief
and
command
staff
members,
having
met
with
the
the
subcommittee,
brought
that
information
into
our
our
people
here.
So
they
heard
those
stories
and
that
important
message
moving
forward
and
taking
real
action.
K
The
chief
began
and
helped,
or
had
created
a
latino
community
advisory
council
that
meets
with
him
and
provides
him
with
information
and
insight
and
really
helps
develop
and
maintain
a
strong
dialogue
about
issues
and
content.
Both
that
was
presented
in
the
subcommittee
or
to
the
subcommittee-
and
you
know
current
and
new
things
that
are
happening
in
addition
to
that.
K
So
they
can
share
information
back
and
forth
and
really
bridge,
perhaps
for
people
who
don't
feel
comfortable
coming
directly
to
to
the
police
department
and
some
of
these
other
formats.
I
really
feel
that
that
faith-based
opportunities
are
more
welcoming
for
them
to
provide
information
back
and
forth
and
foster
further
dialogue,
as
well
as
revisiting
kind
of
a
classic
community
neighborhood
meeting
association
format
that
we've
done
in
the
past,
but
not
only
sharing.
G
B
L
L
Hi
all
I
just
want
to
thank
the
hrc
for
doing
all
this
work.
I
was
one
of
the
participant
participants
in
the
english
language
session
and
at
the
report
out,
it
was
amazing
work.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
the
community
together
like
that.
I
was
actually
I
felt
like
kind
of
was
not
really
given
its
real
due
when
it
was
presented
at
city
council.
L
L
I've
also
heard
some
things
from
community
members
that
was
really
pretty
troubling,
and
I
know
that
some
police
officers
that
I've
spoken
with
have
have
felt
similarly
about
it,
and
I
don't
like
being
called
out
when
there
is
someone
from
the
community
that
has
bias
so
that
opportunity
for
education
is
definitely
something
that
I'm
glad
you
have
the
opportunity
to
pursue
as
the
sport.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this
item.
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
at
this
point,
so
I
will
go
back
and
check
in
with
the
psat
members
one
last
time,
do
you
have
any
further
questions
for
staff
or
comments
on
this
particular
topic
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
item.
B
M
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
make
two
comments
in
the
form
of
questions.
I
I
understand
from
public
comments.
You
probably
can't
answer
them,
so
they
become
food
for
thought.
The
first
one
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that,
in
the
area,
expressions
of
satisfaction
there
were
three
mentions
of
you-
know
positive
school
environment
with
the
sro,
and
there
was
a
comment
made
in
the
dialogue
that
those
were
all
three
from
parents.
M
In
my
experience
with
with
outreach,
we
have
found
that
students
often
don't
tell
their
parents
about
negative
interactions
with
with
pd
or
sros
on
campus,
and
so
I
wondered
if
any
part
of
the
survey
or
outreach
specifically
targeted
students,
and
if
so,
you
know,
did
they
not
give
any
feedback
or
or
if
they
were
not.
It
might
be
something
for
future
study,
because
that
perspective
is
very
different
from
from
what
adults
see
in
terms
of
interactions
with
sros.
M
M
My
second
comment,
also
in
the
form
of
a
question,
is
that
in
in
mr
michael
canfield's
response
to
a
latter
question
about
what
the
pd
has
been
doing,
he
he
highlighted
some
several
latinx
groups
and
that
they're
doing
outreach
with
them
and
doing
some
some
ongoing
work,
at
least
the
ones
that
he
mentioned.
These
groups
tend
to
be.
M
To
be
frank,
they
tend
to
be
quite
conservative
in
the
latinx
community,
particularly
the
faith-based
leaderships
and
cafeto,
and
there
may
be
others.
He
did
not
mention
any
more
progressive
types
of
organizations.
So
I
I
would
wonder
if,
if
such
outreach
is
also
happening
by
the
pd
or
by
the
hrc,
to
those
those
types
of
groups,
whether
they're,
formal
or
informal,
because
I
think
that
lens
is-
is
a
distinctly
different
lens
through
which
to
evaluate.
M
B
N
Thank
you
yeah.
It's
just
a
general
comment
that
this
is
all
really
good
material
and
I
did
follow
the
hrc
process
when
that
was
going
on
and
the
important
part
as
far
as
psab
is
concerned,
is
taking
that
material
and
making
use
of
it,
and
that's
what
I
would
like
to
hear
during
your
deliberations.
Thank
you.
B
B
I
just
want
to
add
that
I
heard
ms
valadez
talking
about
conservative
versus
progressive
and
I'm
sure
that
she
would
feel
comfortable
reaching
out
to
melvin
and
providing
a
list
of
organizations
she
feels
are
progressive,
so
we
can
kind
of
compare
lists
on
who
we're
going
after
so
melvin.
Please
pass
that
on
once
you
hear
from
ms
valadez
okay.
So
with
that,
I
am
considering
this
item
5.1
the
new
5.1
closed
and
we're
going
to
move
on
to
5.2,
which
is
the
school
resource
officer
subcommittee
update.
B
B
We
will
also,
after
the
s
the
sro
subcommittee
update,
is
part
of
this
topic
just
checking
in
to
see
if
anyone
has
any
questions
on
the
mou
which
was
provided
as
part
of
the
agenda,
I
will
be
asking
for
any
feedback
for
folks
who
went
to
dreams
and
futures
and
mike
and
mel
I'm
sorry,
mr
canfield
and
mr
gaines
will
be
also
addressing
some
of
the
questions
that
were
raised
at
the
previous
meeting.
Okay,
so
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
to
member
wang.
C
Thank
you,
okay,
so
the
sro
subcommittee
has
been
working
mainly
on
setting
up
outreach
opportunities
that
are
gonna
start,
be
that
are
going
to
be
happening
once
the
school
year
starts.
The
school
year
starts
on
august
11th,
and
then
you
know
we'll
go
from
there.
So
mainly
we've
been
working
out
on
creating
outreach
questions
which
will
be
kind
of
proposed
to
the
the
community
through
surveys
and
interviews
and
kind
of
like
discussion
sessions.
C
So
the
east,
they
each
kind
of
have
a
slightly
different
set
of
questions,
so
we
can
get
a
wide
range
of
opinions
and
we've
been
reached
working
with
the
city's
multicultural
engagement
program
as
as
it
was
mentioned
earlier,
and
we're
working
with
them
through
their
ambassador
program
to
reach
out
to
the
spanish-speaking
community
and
mainly
spanish-speaking
parents,
so
kind
of
like
a
general
timeline.
We
would
like
to
finalize
the
questions
by
the
end
of
this
month,
which
I
think
is
next
friday
next
saturday,
and
then
we
will
start
we'll.
C
Some
things
we've
been
looking
into
are
just
kind
of
working
with
other
people
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
we're
asking
the
right
questions
and
we'll
reach
out
to
once.
We
start
rolling
out
the
these
surveys
we'll
reach
out
to
you
know
prominent
student
groups,
especially
those
of
us
student
groups
of
color
yeah.
That's
pretty.
B
B
J
J
The
principles
themselves,
so
we
get
as
much
information
as
possible
so
that
when
we
all
get
together,
we
know
what
exactly
we
are
doing
and
get
the
proper
data
and
not
just
you
know,
really
the
meat
of
what
we
are
looking
for,
not
just
a
little
surrounding
stuff,
a
little
tidbit
here,
a
little
tidbit
there.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
add.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
remember
tang
anything
at
this
point
to
add
okay,
so
I
would
like
to
open
it
up.
Excuse
me
to
psap
members
at
this
point
to
ask
any
questions.
Make
any
comments
about
the
subcommittee's
work
to
date
and
plan.
I'm
sorry,
member
wang
did
you
may
have
had
your
hand
up.
Did
you
have
something
to
add
before
I
open
it
up.
C
B
Subcommittee,
okay.
I'll
start,
I
wanted
to
check
the
timeline,
so
remember
wang.
What
I
heard
you
said
say
it
was
data
collection
in
august,
you're,
finalizing
kind
of
your
questions
by
end
of
the
month,
and
then
data
collection
begins
and
trying
to
finalize
the
data
collection
by
end
of
august.
So
really
august
is
all
about
outreach
and
there
were
a
couple
more
steps
to
reach
to
the
recommendation
by
november.
B
O
Yes,
thank
you,
so
at
the
start
of
data
collection
begins
in
august,
and
this
body
is
able
to
summarize
that
data
and
have
any
other
considerations
outside
of
the
community
engagement
aspect.
If
you
guys
wanted
to
have
other
considerations
evaluating
the
sro
program,
we
could
wrap
all
of
that
up,
ideally
by
the
end
of
august
and
september,
okay,
meaning
in
october.
We
could
meet
and
discuss
this
again
and
likely
be
gearing
up
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
in
november
at
the
latest.
O
Ideally,
if
we
could
have
a
recommendation
at
the
end
of
october,
we
meet
the
fourth
thursday.
Traditionally,
if
a
recommendation
is
made
at
that
october
meeting,
then
council
would
have
november
and
december
to
decide
when
to
discuss
their.
What
they'd
like
to
do
when
council
initially
provided
direction
about
the
public
safety
advisory
board.
Taking
on
this
issue,
they
just
set
a
kind
of
a
deadline
or
a
desire
to
discuss
it
this
calendar
year,
so
ideally
having
something
prepared
by
november,
would
be
ideal
because,
okay.
O
K
B
B
I
I
would
never
feel
overlooked
by
you.
I
just
want
to
express
my
support.
It
sounds
like
you
guys,
are
doing
a
really
deep
dive
and
you're
trying
to
be
very
objective
and
taking
the
time
to
get
the
right
questions
targeting
the
principal,
I
think,
was
a
great
idea,
and
hopefully,
when
you
you're
able
to
get
like
kind
of
a
broad
sample
when
you're
in
to
real
students.
J
Just
to
echo
remember
length
and
what
you
said
regarding
the
principle
we
talked
about
it
for
a
little
while,
in
the
sense
that,
if
we
just
send
them
this
survey,
people
of
authority
they
are
busy
principles-
are
very
busy,
are
coming
out
of
this
crazy
year
and
a
half,
so
we
fear
that
they
might
just
hand
it
to
some
subordinate
and
say,
fill
this
up
and
send
it
back.
So
that's
why
we
want
to
get
the
meet
the
principles
and
get
it
from
them.
J
B
B
O
If
I
could
interject
and
yeah,
I
mean
committee
members
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
understood
the
intent
was
to
do
outreach
to
the
middle
schools
as
well
and
high
schools,
not
only
the
high
schools,
in
addition
to
outreach
directly
through
the
schools.
We
also
intend
to
engage
the
city's
youth
advisory
committee,
which
includes
middle
and
high
schoolers.
Okay,.
I
P
B
Okay,
I
wanted
to
mention
a
group
that
had
come
up
to
my
attention.
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
school
board
member
last
week
and
he
mentioned
a
group.
The
latino
parents
group,
which
is
a
group
at
mountain
view
high,
and
you
may
already
be
familiar.
I
I
just
wanted
to
mention
them
as
folks
that
you
could
potentially
reach
out
to
you're
already
aware
of
them
as
an
organization.
B
B
I
also
I
also
want
to
mention
that
we
do
have,
as
mr
canfield
mentioned-
captain
canfield
sorry,
oh
these
police
titles.
I
just
I
get
all
confused.
I'm
sorry!
Captain
canfield
mentioned
there
is
a
latino
community
advisory
council.
If
there
is
anything
the
next
meeting,
I
believe,
will
be
september
30th
we're
still
trying
to
figure
that
out.
If
there's
anything
that
you
would
like
to
discuss
there,
that
might
help
you
in
your
outreach.
B
Okay,
I
do
not
see
any
hands.
If
I
do
not
see
your
hand
go
like
this,
and
I
make
sure
I
see
your
hands,
I
do
not
see
any
more
hands.
I
I
am
gonna
like
live
dangerously
and
open
it
up
to
public
comment,
so
let
me
go
and
see
who
would
like
to
make
comments?
Okay
and
then
okay,
let
me
let
me
pause
for
one.
Second,
mr
gaines.
Keep
me
honest
here:
do
we
need
to
talk
about
the
mou
and
the
questions
we
have
before
public
comment
in
this
section
or
wow?
B
O
I
would
recommend
only
opening
public
comment
once
rather,
you
would
like
to
ask
questions
following
public
comment:
there
will
be
the
opportunity
for
you
to
deliberate
and
ask
questions
following
public
comment.
Okay
or
you
can
ask
your
questions
now,
it's
really
up
to
you,
but
I
do
strongly
recommend
only
an
open
opening
public
comment.
Once.
B
Okay,
public,
you
heard
the
man
we
are
going
to
pause.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hands.
I
see
you
celine
tim
bruce
dana.
I
see
you,
we
will
be
right
back
first,
I
want
to
ask
if
there
are
any
specific
questions
on
the
mou
from
psap
I
mean
my
my
question
is
the
mou
seems
to
have
have
expired,
so
I
was
wondering
what
the
latest
update
on
that
was
sergeant.
K
K
However,
the
concern
was
not
to
be
presumptuous
with
the
the
decisions,
the
recommendations
of
the
psab
or
the
decisions
of
city
council
and
therefore
to
put
an
amendment
in
the
in
the
mou
that
is
subject
to
amendment
based
on
it
wouldn't
say,
based
on
recommendation
but
subject
to
amendment,
and
that
amendment
would
be
based
on
recommendation
from
city
council
and
would
certainly
take
into
consideration
your
concerns.
So
it
is
in
progress
to
be
revisited
for
the
most
part.
C
Yeah,
so
for
part
of
the
mlu,
it
talks
about
kind
of
sro's
jurisdiction
of
you
know:
investigating
questioning
students
having
that
limited
to
things
that
happened
at
school.
Does
that
mean
kind
of
the
sr's
interactions
with
that
student
regarding
these
instances
should
be
at
school
or
that
they
should
they
can
take
place
anywhere.
K
You
know,
honestly,
that's
really
going
to
be
there's
a
lot
of
variables
in
play,
so
it
would
depend
on
what's
best
for
the
student,
what's
best
for
everybody's
safety,
how
complex
what
the
nature
of
the
concern
is.
So
I
think
it
would
really,
I
think,
what's
most
important
is
that
it
would
be
collaborative
and
that
it
would
be
what's
with
the
best
interest
of
both
the
student
and
the
community
safety,
so
other
student
safety
and
that
student
safety.
B
So
what
I
suggest
is
that
we
just
go
through
that
list
and
make
sure
that
everyone
has
answers
to
those
questions
that
were
posed
as
part
of
the
presentation
and
the
report
from
the
last
meeting,
and
then
I
promise
public.
We
will
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
So
mike
are
you?
Are
you
in
a
position
to
start
answering
questions.
B
B
B
Okay,
second
question:
the
sros
who
presented
mentioned
that
there
were
arrests
on
campus,
so
the
question
that
came
up
where
what
were
those
arrests
for
and
what
were,
the
demographics
of
the
students
that
were
arrested?
I
know
there
were
only
a
handful,
but
the
psab
membership
team
was
still
interested
in
finding
that
out.
K
Absolutely
so
going
back
and
looking
at
our
data
for
2017,
18
and
19,
because
those
are
the
the
best
years.
Obviously,
2020
isn't
going
to
give
us
much.
Data
pulled,
went
ahead
and
pulled
all
of
those
cases
and
understand
that,
because
of
the
nature
of
the
juvenile
justice
system
and
the
intent
for
youth
offenders
to
have
a
fresh
start,
a
lot
of
these
cases
were
sealed
and
I
wasn't
even
able
to
read
them.
So
there
was
nothing
available
for
me
to
review
other
than
a
very
surface
level
of
information.
K
Having
said
that,
I
can
provide
this
information
to
you
in
2017
we
had
one
on-campus
arrest
of
a
juvenile,
and
I
just
for
the
record.
I
separated
out
adults
that
were
unrelated
to
the
students.
So
although
the
school
locations
may
have
some
more
arrests,
they're
not
really
pertinent
to
what
we're
talking
about,
and
so
we
had
in
2017
one
arrest
of
a
hispanic
juvenile
student,
and
that
was
for
a
weapons
violation.
K
K
So
all
of
them-
except
for
that
that
last
case,
so
that
the
witness
intimidation
case
both
of
those
arrests
were
associated
to
the
same
incident
and
one
of
the
suspects
was
an
adult
and
one
of
the
offenders
was
a
youth
offender.
So
one
was
a
juvenile
and
one
was
an
adult,
but
they
were
students,
so
I
think
it's
relevant
for
for
the
psab
to
know
that
they
were
students,
even
though
one
was
18.
C
Not
really
a
clarification
kind
of
just
a
question:
okay
go
ahead.
This
is
kind
of
connected
to
the
question
I
asked
earlier,
but
is
I
I
don't
know
if
you
know
this
because
you
just
found
very
you
know
basic
information
on
these
cases,
but
would
there
be
an
reason
why
it
was
necessary
for
the
in
2019
for
the
person
arrested
for
burglary
to
be
arrested
on
school
campus.
K
K
K
Reference
absolutely
that
if
there
does
need
to
be
enforcement,
work
on
a
school
campus
that
it's
done
by
a
school
resource
officer,
there
are
certainly
our
most
qualified
officers
have
the
best
relationships
with
the
school
administration
interact.
You
know
the
best
and
most
effectively
with
our
kids
on
the
school
campus.
K
There
is
not
a
log
generated,
I
can
pull
the
data
that
we
do
have
and
look
and
see.
If
we
have
a
you
know
how
many
calls
have
been
generated
at
each
of
the
schools,
the
high
schools,
alta
vista,
I
suppose
in
mountain
view,
if
you
would
like
or
the
junior
high
school.
Let
me
know
what
you
like
and
we
can
make
a
request
for.
B
K
K
We
are
looking
for
collaborative
efforts
to
find
solutions
for
problems
that
are
happening
with
our
kids
in
the
school,
so
sometimes
they're
problems
at
home.
Sometimes
it's
problems
at
school
or
with
gang
influence
or
other
negative
things
in
their
lives,
and
so
the
school
resource
officers
are
really
a
collaborative
part
of
that
solution.
K
So,
for
the
first
part,
how
many
calls
come
from
schools
in
a
year?
It
really
varies
dramatically
and
in
talking
with
our
school
resource
officers,
they
field
many
more
calls
from
school
administrators
and
counselors
about
follow-up
about
how
students
are
doing
general
conversations
about
you
know,
updates
and
things
that
are
working
well
or
areas
for
improvement
in
some
of
the
students
that
they're
collaborating
with
and
those
aren't
necessarily.
K
You
know,
they're
calls
about
the
students,
but
they're
not
calls
for
service
to
come
in
and
do
something
and
calls
to
come
to
a
campus
really
vary
and
they
vary
based
on
kind
of
activity.
That's
going
on
and
the
culture
of
the
campus
and
in
different
variables,
and
sometimes
there
can
be
nothing
for
weeks
and
then
other
times
there
can
be
a
flurry
of
you
know
sometimes
related
and
sometimes
not
incidents
the
average
based
on
our
school
resource
officers.
Experience
is
about
five
or
six
a
month.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
and
so
if
member
tang
is
asking
for
some
sort
of
log-
and
you
can
pull
those
calls,
let's
revisit
that,
maybe
as
an
action
item
for
later
then.
Okay.
The
next
question
from
the
last
meeting
is
how
is
sro
performance
measured
and
how
is
that
related
to
generally
how
performance
of
police
officers
are
measured?
Is
it
different
for
sros
or
similar
for
police
officers
to
police
officers
as
a
whole.
K
A
little
bit
of
both
you
know,
some
of
the
criteria
is,
is
the
same.
However,
the
jobs
are
so
different
that
if
we
look
at
initiative
or
engagement,
community
activity,
investigation,
investigative
ability,
those
things
really
vary,
those
are
all
the
same
metrics
that
are
measured
or
documented
for
a
patrol
officer
just
like
they
are
for
a
school
resource
officer,
but
they
mean
very
different
things,
so
our
school
resource
officers
receive
an
annual
evaluation
on
their
performance.
K
So
there
is
some
information
about.
What's
worked
well
in
the
program,
what
was
really
well
received
by
our
kids
and
our
students,
and
and
then
we
focus
on
those
items
and
adjust
the
things
that
were
less
popular,
to
try
to
find
the
the
best
most
receptive
kind
of
programs
and
create
the
best
program
for
our
kids.
B
K
It's
not
officially
collected
like
asking
for
a
documentation
or
a
form
or
even
a
narrative,
certainly
we're
in
close
communication
with
school
administrators
and
the
administrator.
The
lieutenant
for
the
school
resource
officer
program
has,
you
know,
close
connections
to
the
school
administrators,
but
we
don't
solicit
specific
feedback
for
officer
evaluations.
B
K
However,
those
really
do
vary
based
on
need
and
certainly
as
we'll
see
in
the
upcoming
school
year,
based
on
students.
Time
and
you
know,
the
ability
of
the
school
to
provide
that.
So
it's
not
as
simple
as
to
say,
we
want
to
teach
10
classes,
have
80
kids
come
through
dreams
and
futures.
It
is
very
much
a
variable.
K
We
we
certainly
set
goals
such
as
our
dare
program
and
revisiting
and
returning
to
their
program,
but
there's
a
lot
of
variables
at
play,
so
we
made
sure
for
the
example
there
to
send
our
sros
to
training
programs
begin
the
preparation
for
those
courses.
So
that's
certainly
a
goal.
However,
you
know
there
are
factors
that
can't
be
controlled,
so
at
some
point
those
classes
will
be
presented,
but
certainly
not
being
able
to
present
them
doesn't
mean
that
they
didn't
fulfill
their
mission
or
goal.
K
B
P
B
Q
And
one
thing
in
specific
that
I'd
like
you
to
make
sure
to
continue
to
prioritize
is
centering.
The
perspectives
of
those
who've
actually
had
the
experiences
and
the
interactions
with
sros,
for
example,
parents
or
adults
or
folks,
who
are
less
remo
or
more
removed
from
the
situation,
may
not
have
as
accurate
of
information.
I
think
it's
just
a
general
good
practice
to
center
the
experiences
of
folks
who
are
closest
to
the
program.
Q
Q
So
the
ysu
sergeant
at
three
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
three
sros
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
each
so
over
one
point:
two
million
dollars
for
four
adults.
I
also
looked
at
the
mvl
like
salary
schedule
for
classified
therapists.
I
couldn't
find
counselors
psychologists
or
social
workers,
but
I
did
find
therapists
and
their
range
is
from
99
to
120
000.
Q
Q
Students
deserve
to
access,
adults
and
mentors
who
care
for
them
and
can
check
on
them,
and
my
question
is
whether
it
is
so
critically
important
that
these
providers
have
a
badge
and
a
gun
that
they're
willing
we're
willing
to
hire
only
one
third,
as
many
adults
in
full-time
positions
when
compared
to
the
number
of
positions
that
we
could
be
supporting
students
with
if
these
positions
were
being
filled
by
civilians.
Now
I
know
it's
not
as
simple
as
taking
money
from
one
and
putting
it
in
the
other.
Q
So
I'd
love
for
you
to
please
consider
alternatives
to
the
program
as
you
go,
rather
than
operating
from
a
default
that
this
work
has
to
be
done
by
officers
in
the
first
place
and
yeah.
I
wasn't
aware
of
time
because
I
didn't
know
how
many
minutes
I
had,
and
I
forgot
to
start
my
own
timer,
so
I'm
done
now,
but
you
might
want
to
consider
formalizing
the
time
or
showing
the
timer
for
the
next
couple
of
folks.
So
thank
you
all
so
much.
Okay.
R
S
Hi
yeah,
I'm
salim.
I
work
in
mountain
view,
but
I
grew
up
in
los
altos,
so
I
followed
the
los
altos
police
task
force
when
they
were
doing
something
similar
surveying
high
school
students
at
lhs
about
the
sro
program,
and
I
wanted
to
tell
you
some
things
that
we
learned
in
that
process
that
might
help
with
some
expectations.
S
So
one
is,
you
should
be
prepared
for
scenario
where
you
get
a
small
sample
size,
while
salto's
got
28
responses
and
the
responses
involve
self-selection,
so
you
get
strong
feelings
in
both
directions
and
then
second,
only
a
small
sliver
of
the
people
who
responded
had
ever
interacted
with
sros
90
of
them
never
had,
and
only
three
people
did
two
of
them
had
a
negative
experience.
One
of
them
had
a
neutral
experience.
It's
it
really
are.
These
are
small
numbers.
S
Third
of
the
people
who
haven't
interacted
with
sros.
Very
few
of
them
know
what
they
do.
There
are
people
on
both
sides
of
the
aisle
who
you
know
like
think
that
police
officers
are
just
loitering
around
to
like
arrest
people
and
like
search
their
bags,
which
that's
not
what
sros
are
doing
primarily
and
then
there
are
other
people
on
the
other
side
of
the
aisle
who
think
that
sros
are
just
there
to.
S
You
know,
wait
for
school
shooting
to
happen,
so
they
can
jump
into
action,
which
also
is
not
what
happens,
and
you
should
be
aware
of
that
ahead
of
time.
You
might
want
to
ask
do.
Do
you
want
to
weigh
those
opinions
equally,
if
they
don't
understand
the
program?
And
the
fourth
thing
is,
I
agree
with
dana
when
you
have
a
survey
like
this,
you
really
want
to
know
ahead
of
time
what
you're
looking
for,
because
otherwise
you
can
just
read
whatever
you
wanted
to
find
into
the
data.
S
S
Do
you
take
their
opinion
into
equal
account
as
people
who
have,
and
then
the
fifth
thing
I
would
say
is
that
one
of
the
few
things
that
actually
was
clear
in
the
survey
that
we
sent
out
was
that
everyone,
the
majority
of
people,
agree
with
the
goals
of
the
sro
program,
but
very
few
people
I
mean
only
one
person
was
confident
that
the
sro
achieved
those
goals
out
of
28..
So
I
I
thought
that
was
like
a
stark
finding
and
I
don't
know
if
I
have
enough
time.
No,
I
don't.
S
S
My
read
on
this
is
that
the
school
district
appreciates
having
a
free
resource,
the
sro
that
they
don't
have
to
pay
for,
who
can
deal
with
their
toughest
cases
and
there's
also
no
liability
for
them
because
they
entrusted
the
student
with
you
know
another
authority
figure,
but
they
don't
have
data
on
whether
the
program
works.
They
don't
have
metrics
to
judge
whether
it
works
and
when
they
spoke
to
los
altos.
They
disagreed
on
the
goals
compared
to
the
police
department.
S
N
Thank
you,
yeah.
I
think
I
want
to
echo
what
dana
said
about
the
numbers,
but
I
also
want
to
bring
back
the
question
that
I
asked
earlier,
which
I
don't
think
we
have
the
answer
to
so
far.
At
least
I
missed
it.
It
was
said
about
overtime
and
the
sro
officers,
because
my
understanding
is
that
the
sro
officers
actually
do
police
work
as
well,
and
so
they
could
receive
overtime
and
I'm
not
sure
how
that
works.
N
Given
the
budget
that's
established
through
the
city,
so
that
question
stands
and
then
my
own
background,
when
I
went
to
school
we
did
not
have
police
officers
on
campus,
I
mean
if
they
came
to
campus,
if
there
was
some
kind
of
a
problem-
and
it
was
very
rare
and
everybody
knew
the
police
are
here,
you
know
it
got
around
campus
really
fast.
So
it
seems
odd
to
me
to
even
have
such
a
program
at
all.
N
But
my
my
questions
are
my
concerns
are
or
my
requests
are,
that
you
put
your
most
attention
on
exploring
alternatives.
The
current
sro
program,
not
just
assume
that
this
would
be
handled
the
way
it
is
through
mvpd
and
regardless
of
whether
people
like
or
dislike
the
program,
it
needs
to
be
effective
and
it
needs
to
be
cost
effective
too,
and
I
think
it's
worth
exploring
why
other
cities
have
eliminated
or
considered
eliminating
their
sro
programs.
N
L
I
want
to
thank
you,
chair
ir,
for
pointing
out
that
the
mou
has
expired.
That
was
a
question
that
I
had
as
a
member
of
the
public,
and
I
would
I
understand,
the
gears
of
bureaucracy
turned
slowly,
but
it
was
surprising
to
me
that
something
that
has
had
so
much
public
interest
for
so
long
sort
of
just
has
gone
unnoticed
and
is
going
to
be
extended
without
possibility
for
public
comment,
but
other
than
now
that
you,
you
capable
members
of
the
board,
are
turning
your
attention
to
it.
L
I
also
want
to
raise
the
fact
that
mountain
view
is
a
place
with
multiple
school
districts.
There
isn't
any
info
on
the
whisman
school
district
mou
that
maybe
that
one
has
last
collapsed
as
well.
That's
something
that
I'd
be
curious
of
knowing
about,
and
I
I
think
board
member
wang's
question
earlier
was
excellent
of
the
arrests
on
campus
did
they
have
to
actually
occur
on
campus
and
just
echoing
what
I
think
everyone
else
has
said
of
everyone
agrees
that
the
services
for
the
kids
are
excellent
and
should
be
provided.
L
It's
the
marginal
and
opportunity
cost
of
are
the
police,
the
best
people
to
provide
them.
They've
picked
up
the
slack
because
everything
falls
to
the
police
in
the
way
that
we
have
structured
society,
but
are
they
the
best
people
to
actually
be
providing
these
services,
and
I
think
that
we
shouldn't
be
looking
at
like
are
the?
How
can
we
make
the
cops
and
the
kids
get
along
better?
It
should
be
how
what
do
the
kids
need,
and
how
can
we
best
provide
that?
I
think
the
numbers
provided
by
dana
earlier
were
really
stark.
R
Hi,
yes,
I'm
so
sorry,
I'd
first
like
to
introduce
myself,
I'm
a
student
at
mountain
view,
high
school
and
I
would
like
to
say
ditto
to
literally
everything
that
everybody
has
said
so
far
and
as
mr
mckenzie
had
just
said
about
the
sros
being
the
best
people.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand
like
he
said
that
everything
is
fallen
onto
them.
So
I
think
that's
another
regard
that
makes
them
maybe
not
the
best
people
to
handle
everything.
R
And
then
there
was
something
brought
up
by
captain
canfield
earlier.
I'm
not
recalling
the
exact
connotation
of
this
topic,
but
he
mentioned
something
about
gang
behavior
and
I
think
the
education
of
certain
things
that
the
sros
provide,
but
it
led
me
to
recall
a
question
about
how
the
sros
are
providing
education
and
possibly
incorrect
or
prejudiced.
You
know
ideas
that
they're
spreading
to
students
or
even
teachers,
about
maybe
what
things
like
you
know.
E
Thank
you.
I
was
struck
by
the
comment
of
the
cost
of
the
police
off
of
the
sros.
I
saw
that
list
also.
What
I
remember-
and
I
was
I
had
a
business
well
over
20
years
ago.
If
I
wanted
to
hire
anybody,
it
cost
me
twice
as
much
as
his
salary
in
other
expenses,
usually
taxes
and
and
insurance,
and
a
whole
lot
of
extras,
like
that.
K
K
E
O
K
The
majority
of
their
work
is
scheduled
on
what
we
call
straight
time,
not
on
overtime.
That
involves
a
significant
amount
of
adjustments.
If
we
know
there
are
changes
in
their
schedule
coming
up,
however,
being
a
24
7
365
day
operation,
there
are
needs
of
our
students
in
our
community
that
occur
off
hours
when
our
school
resource
officers
are
not
in
uniform
or
in
plain
clothes
in
the
building
are
working,
and
they
often
and
regularly
respond
to
these
problems,
and
I
hope
they're
putting
in
for
overtime
for
their
work.
K
They
may
sign
up
their
primary
duties.
Are
school
resource
officer,
duties?
Okay,
you
may
sign
up
for
overtime
or
other
ships
that
are
available.
However,
those
cannot
conflict
and
get
in
the
way
of
school
resource
officer
duties.
So
the
primary
mission
objective
and
focus
is
doing
school
resource
officer
work.
K
B
B
Okay,
so
let's
just
make
a
note
to
follow
up
on
that
and
confirm
that,
because
perhaps
one
should
exist
somewhere
so
okay
and
then
I
would
just
like
to
encourage
the
ravika,
the
member
of
public,
who
had
comments
if
you
have
had
direct
experience
with
sros.
I
would
encourage
you
to
make
yourself
available
during
the
outreach
of
the
subcommittee,
as
dana
mentioned,
it's
important
to
for
the
study
to
center
on
folks
who
have
real
lived
experience.
B
B
Let
me
see
if
there's
anything
else,
that
I
wanted
to
say
anyone
else
before
we
close
this
topic
and
clearly
we
have
to
close
the
meeting
because
it's
nine
o'clock,
I'm
sorry
member
tang.
But
you
know
I'm
just
kidding-
go
ahead.
Member
tang
and
we
we
need
to
see
who
we
need
to
see
a
big,
better
picture
of
your
cuddly
friend,
okay,.
G
O
If
I
could
just
a
clarification
in
that
comparison,
there
are
components
of
sro
duties
that
cannot
be
fulfilled
by
a
non-sworn
person,
criminal
investigations,
arrest,
etc.
Would
you
like
us
in
that
comparison,
to
focus
only
on
those
responsibilities
that
could
be
done
by
a
non-law
enforcement
sworn
officer
or
like?
How
would
you
like
that
comparison
to.
O
O
B
P
O
We
are
the
city
of
mountain
view,
is
working
toward
in-person
meetings
and
we
don't
have
a
date
as
of
yet
as
we're
still
figuring
out
our
covet-19
response
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
public
meetings
considering
every
member
of
the
public's
vaccinations
and
all
other
things
it's
a
little
bit
away
from
going.
I
imagine
that
at
least
through
september
november,
we'll
still
be
meeting
virtually.
B
B
B
O
O
O
F
B
B
O
O
They
will
consider
staff
workload
and
capacity,
particularly
right
now,
due
to
capacity
strength,
constraints
throughout
the
city
of
mountain
view,
from
kovitt
and
the
city's
continued
focus
on
covet-19
recovery.
The
the
city
council
is
asking
advisory
bodies
and
they're
limiting
themselves
as
well
to
limit
the
number
of
items
on
a
work
plan.
Therefore,
I
am
recommending
that
the
public
safety
advisory
board
work
plan
include
no
more
than
five
items.
O
Considering
considerations
for
approval
also
consider
the
scope
of
the
advisory
body
and
when
we're
proposing
items
on
our
work
plan,
the
city
council
will
want
them
to
fit
within
the
advisory
body's
scope.
So
tonight
we
will
work
through
with
this
item.
I
will
be
asking
each
of
you
to
identify
work,
plan
items
and
I'll
present
a
few
later
in
this
presentation
as
well.
O
Based
on
this
assessment,
we
will
present
recommendations
to
the
psab
for
an
annual
work
plan,
at
which
point
at
the
august
26th
meeting
you
all
may
deliberate
and
decide
which
of
the
recommendations
you
like
and
ultimately
the
psab
proposes
the
work
plan
that
will
be
submitted
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
review
the
work
plans,
along
with
every
other
advisory
body
work
plan
in
the
city
of
mountain
view.
In
september,.
O
The
so
the
the
scope
of
the
psab
is
an
important
consideration
for
the
city
council
and
I'll
just
highlight
what
the
scope
of
the
psalm
was.
So
the
peace
app
was
formed
in
december.
Officially,
the
city
council
formed
the
peace
ad
december
2020,
based
on
a
recommendation
from
the
ad
hoc
city
council
subcommittee
on
race,
equity
and
inclusion.
O
While
public
safety
is
fairly
broad
and
services
and
operations
of
the
mountain
dew
fire
department
may
be
related
or
are
related
to
public
safety
that
wasn't
necessarily
the
specific
scope
or
the
task
of
of
the
psab.
The
the
city
council
did
not
desire
for
the
psab
to
look
at
mountain
view,
fire
department
operations
and
to
make
recommendations
to
the
police
chief,
sorry,
the
fire
chief.
So
while
it
is
related
to
public
safety,
it's
not
necessarily
under
the
scope
of
the
psat,
based
on
the
what
the
psalm
was
formed
as.
O
So
considering
potential
work
plan
items,
there
are
a
number
of
ongoing
items
which
you
all
have
heard
about
at
this
point
that
are
likely
going
to
be
included
in
your
work
plan
or
what
I
would
recommend
to
be
included
in
your
work
plan.
This
body
has
already
accepted
that
we
are
working
on
the
item
of
reviewing
the
school
resource
officer
program.
So
in
addition
to
that,
the
research
fellow
mr
alex
stevenson
provided
a
presentation
on
his
research
on
traffic.
O
O
O
O
We
will
also
assist
with
consolidating
items.
If
people
say
similar
items,
we
will
try
to
merge
them
into
one
and
then
ultimately,
we'll
present
a
list
and
ask
for
the
psabs
approval
of
that
list
for
the
for
the
staff
to
assess
and
bring
back
some
recommendations
at
the
next
meeting
again.
Next
steps
are
following
this
meeting
staff
will
assess
how
proposed
items
fit
into
the
scope
of
the
peace,
app,
the
workload
impacts
of
proposed
items
and
the
feasibility
of
the
peace
app
undertaking
those
items
during
this
fiscal
year.
B
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
mr
gaines.
So
you've
all
heard
that
staff
recommends
that
each
member
provide
up
to
two
new
work
plan
items
before
we
do
that.
I'd
like
to
know
if
any
psab
members
have
questions
about
the
presentation
or
the
process,
can
we
start
with
that?
Remember
tang.
I
see
your
hand
up.
O
B
B
B
T
And
yet
I
have
been
here
the
whole
time
laying
in
wait
now,
so
I
so
I
I'm
personally
interested
in
the
in
the
mental
health
item
for
the
work
plan.
One
thing
I
I
wanted
to
mention
about
that
and
it's
something
that
I
really
been
thinking
about
a
lot
since
I've
been
in
the
mvpdx
program,
is
that
the
the
moment
of
crisis
is
just
one
point
in
a
longer
story.
T
But
you
know
there's
there's
things
that
happen
before
that,
and
there's
also
support
that
people
need
afterwards
and
I
think,
that's
sort
of
part
of
the
whole
equation,
and
ideally
with
with
proper
support
people.
You
know
we
can
minimize
the
number
of
crises
people
have
and
the
need
for
crisis
support,
although
I
think
with
mental
health,
we'll
always
need
some
kind
of
crisis
support.
T
So
I'm
hoping
that
that
can
sort
of
be
part
of
the
purview
is
that
there
might
be
programs
we
can
put
into
place
to
reduce
the
number
of
these
crisis
calls
or
supports
we
can
put
in
place
after
the
crisis
call
to
make
sure
that
people
aren't.
You
know,
don't
have
repeat
crises
in
the
weekend
once
you
know
we
identified
someone
needs
support,
we
can
support
them.
T
I
sort
of
my
understanding
from
you
know,
talking
to
folks
at
the
police
department
in
mbpdx
is
that
this
is
something
that
I
think
across
the
board.
You
know
that
the
pd
and
the
community
and
everyone
would
be
supportive
of
as
sort
of
a
better
wraparound
service,
so
I'm
hoping
that
can
be
part
of
the
purview
of
that
work
plan
item.
If
that
work
plan
item
makes
it
that's
it.
L
L
I'd
also,
I
believe
council
member
board
member
bradovsky
brought
up
previously
the
the
lawsuit.
I
know
that
that
may
not
be
some
the
excessive
force
lawsuit.
That
may
not
be
something
that
can
be
explicitly
talked
about,
but
given
that
it
is
ongoing,
but
the
procedure
of
the
police
department,
pooling
pooling
with
other
cities
for
insurance
in
case
of
bad
actors,
is
something
that
could
be
investigated
by
the
board
and
I'd
like
to
recommend
something
along
those
lines.
L
I
the
what
came
up
a
lot
with
the
discussion
about
sros
was:
are
police
officers
the
best
to
be
providing
this
service,
and
I
think
I'd
hope
that
we
could
ask
that
about
all
the
services
that
we
have
and
that
could
tie
in
with
something
that
came
up
from
the
hrc
question
of
doing
education
within
the
community
of.
Sometimes
it
was
community
member
bias
that
was
resulting
in
disparities
from
through
no
far
fault
of
the
police
and
in
that
outreach
in
education
to
the
community.
L
I'd
hope
that
we
could
actually
really
assess,
when
is
the
best
time
to
call
the
police.
When
should
we
be
calling
armed
agents
of
the
state
tasked
with
enforcing
laws
and
keeping
the
peace,
and
when
can
we
otherwise
try
to
divert
to
other
resources
that
exist,
and
how
can
we
build
these
resources
that,
as
miriam
was
talking
about
there's
a
long
chain
of
events
that
lead
to
the
point
where
it
comes
to
police
interaction?
B
P
Okay,
can
you
hear
me
now
I
I
would
hope
that
psab
would
not
attempt
to
reinvent
the
wheel
when
you're
looking
at
mental
health
professionals,
who
can
do
some
of
the
things
that
armed
officers
are
doing
now
and
perhaps
not
even
really
well
trained,
for
I
would
hope
that
pisab
would
reach
out
to
jack.
That
is.
This
is
an
almost
50
year
old
local
organization
that
has
mental
health
workers
in
all
of
the
schools
and
available
to
the
police
and
available
to
the
community.
B
M
M
So
there
is
good
reason.
However,
I
would
still
continue
to
say
that,
given
that
that
percentage
is
probably
higher
for
a
police
officer
than
it
would
be
for
a
mental
health
professional,
I
think
the
argument
still
holds
that
we
can.
We
can
look
at
how
best
to
deploy
the
human
resource
that
we
have
in
ways
that
most
benefit
students.
M
Perhaps
it
is
justified
that
that
valuable
and
expensive
resource
of
the
police
officer
should
be
turned
more
towards
other
tasks
such
as
investigative
work,
etc,
whereas
these
more
efficient
funding
towards
mental
health
professionals
could
help
students
in
a
more
direct
way,
both
before,
during
and
after
the
moments
of
crisis
that
were
referred
to
earlier.
That's
my
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Q
Hi
thanks
so
much
for
the
full
three
minutes,
even
though
it's
past
nine
pm,
I
appreciate
everybody
staying
up
late
and
hearing
us
out.
I
never
feel
overlooked
by
you
all.
I
first
want
to
express
my
support
for
all
the
items
that
have
been
previously
mentioned,
especially
this
mental
health
first
response
piece.
I
really
want
to
thank
joan
for
mentioning
the
valuable
resource
that
we
have
in
chat
and
I'd
love
for
psab
to
think
about
how
to
best
deploy
that
resource.
Q
I
think
that's
a
great
point,
and
I
want
to
thank
miriam
for
making
me
think
about
earlier
intervention
regarding
mental
health,
because
comprehensive
mental
mental
health
care
and
preventative
mental
health
care
really
could
be
seen
as
a
public
safety
investment.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
up
kind
of
piggybacking
off
of
what
mr
mckenzie
said
earlier
was
brought
up
by
the
hrc
commissioners
earlier
tonight,
which
was
to
look
into
the
incident
report
mechanisms
and
making
sure
that
we
have
a
transparent
and
clear
oversight
process.
Q
I
think
it
was
the
first
meeting
when
folks
were
talking
about
the
things
they'd
like
to
see
psab
think
about
so
I
hope
that
makes
it
to
the
work
plan,
because
you
know
who's
better
positioned
to
do
the
position
of
independent
oversight
than
a
board
called
the
public
safety
advisory
board.
So
that's
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
echo
thanks.
So
much
have
a
great
night.
B
N
N
So
on
page
one,
it
talks
about
a
fire
department
not
being
included
in
the
work
that's
being
done
or
at
least
in
the
coverage
for
what
the
memo
was
talking
about,
and
I'm
not
sure.
I
understand
why
that
is.
It
seemed
to
me
that
when
the
direction
came
from
council
that
they
talked
about
all
arms
of
public
safety,
police,
fire,
ems,
mental
health
and
so
on,
so
I
was
curious
about
that
and
then
the
the
part
on
page
two
about
getting
referrals
from
various
entities
and
not
through
city
council.
N
I'm
wondering
about
that,
because
I
thought
that
all
referrals
came
through
city
council
first
and
then
came
to
the
advisory
body
and,
lastly,
about
mental
health
crises.
It's
just
that
not
all
crises
are
mental
health
right,
so
you
can
have
disputes
that
happen
on
the
street
or
in
people's
homes
or
whatever.
Those
are
not
necessarily
mental
health,
and
I
don't
know
if
you're,
just
when
you
say
mental
health.
If
you're,
just
speaking
more
broadly
than
something
that
you
would
consider
a
mental
health
crisis,
so
I'm
just
curious
about
that
part.
N
B
And
I
will
channel
two
mckenzie
and
say
it's
not
a
zoom
meeting
until
someone
does
that
so
yeah
all
right.
So
what
I
was
saying
is
with
public
comment
over
I'm
going
to
check
and
see
if
any
psab
members
have
further
questions
now
the
public
comment
is
closed
and
then
we
can
go
into
the
one
to
two
items
that
people
may
would
like
would
like
to
con
add
for
consideration
to
the
work
plan.
B
You
know
put
out
there
for
consideration
now.
Remember
right
now
we're
just
collecting
staff's
going
to
go
off
and
think
about
it
and
look
at
time
and
other
the
other
factors
that
mr
gaines
mentioned,
but
please
go
ahead
and
put
your
suggestions
out
now.
Would
anyone
like
to
kick
us
off?
Otherwise,
I
will
just
go
by
the
boxes
on
my
screen.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
I
like
to
first
thank
joan
to
be
on
here,
she's
a
good
old
friend,
and
we
were
to
uncheck
for
a
long
time,
and
that
just
happens
to
be
my
first
thing:
how
we
can
consolidate
check
service,
which
is,
I
think,
it's
already
in
schools
into
the
program
where
there's
more
outreach
to
prevent
problems
before
they
start
in
school,
so
especially
sticking
with
schools,
but
they
also
provide
services
to
the
public.
You
know
free
or
at
no
cost
at
all
or
a
little
cost.
J
O
B
J
B
E
E
E
E
This
is
the
plaintiff,
is
charging
police
brutality
essentially
and
it
will
be
a
jury
trial
and
he
has
to
put
up
evidence
so
it'll
be
interesting,
but
it's
something
that's
threatening
our
police,
our
dear
police,
and
we
should
be
on
top
of
it.
So
I
propose
that
as
one
one
item
that
we
should
be
looking
at.
B
E
Well,
I
think
we
should
be
both.
I
think
we
should
be
open
to
complaints
in
general,
but
especially
in
this
case,
it's
a
it's
a
federal
case.
It's
filed
it's
a
suit
and
it's
for
10
million
dollars.
I
think
we
should
be.
We
should
know
what
what
the
police
side
is.
I
read
the
whole
27
pages
of
the
suit
and
I
don't
know
what
the
police
would
have
to
say
about
it.
What
happened
on
their
side?
B
O
No,
no
clarification.
Neither
just
likes
a
reminder
that
we
are
not
at
liberty
to
discuss
an
ongoing
case,
so
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
discuss
the
specifics.
I've.
I've
documented
your
your
request
that
it
be
included
on
the
work
plan
and
we
can
provide
you
with
a
more
formal
response
to
that.
That
includes
the
city
attorney's
it
and
we'll
present
that
to
you
at
the
august
26
meeting.
E
B
G
G
To
turn
your
video
off
when
you're
sharing
just
so
the
bandwidth
only
goes
like
your
audio,
so
we
can
hear
you,
but
in
terms
of
items
I
was
particularly
interested
in
the
lawsuit
brought
up
by
mr
joelle
alejo,
and
I
know
that
we
can't
talk
about
specific
lawsuits.
So
I
would
like
us
to
explore
what
happens
in
partnership
with
other
police
departments
and
the
accountability
went
within
when
we
were
working
with
other
departments
as
well.
G
B
J
Oh
yes,
I
am,
is
this
better
sounds
promising?
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
So,
back
to
what
I
was
saying,
I
would
like
to
explore
a
better
working
relationship
with
actually
a
more
detailed
working
relationship
with
jack.
I
want
to
thank
joan,
which
I
was
trying
to
do
for
being
here
today.
She
and
I
were
members
of
the
board
of
czech
a
long
time
ago.
Nevertheless,
we
need
to
explore
that
so
it's
just
for
they
have
it
in
every
school.
J
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
still
we
need
to
have
intervention
earlier.
So
if
we
can
get
the
sros
recommending
kids
when
they
see
a
problem
to
the
check
that
be
good.
Likewise,
when
the
police
officers
see
a
problem
instead
of
just
for
probably
arresting
someone
who
slightly
have
some
mental
challenges
try
to
get
in
check.
Obviously,
if
they're
not
violent
right,
violent
situations
are
different.
That's
one
and
the
second
one
might
sound
a
little
corny,
but
I'll
give
it
a
shot.
J
Second,
one
is.
I
would
like
to
see
the
mvpd
try
to
create
a
program
to
help
people
who
have
been
pulled
over
things.
Have
been
difficult
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
they
have
fixed
tickets
or
any
tickets
to
have
a
kind
of
a
program
to
invite
them
over
help
them
how
to
solve
the
problem
and
also
a
reconciliation
program
whereby
ex
anyone
who
was
arrested
before
but
lives
here
gets
to
start
a
new,
a
fresh
relationship
with
the
pd.
Those
are
my
two
things.
Thank
you.
B
J
Basically,
what
I'm
saying
is
a
lot
of
folks
have
gone
through
a
hard
time.
The
last
year
and
a
half
two
years
we
like
like
to
see
a
program
if
it's
feasible
to
invite
anyone
with
a
fix-it
ticket
that
was
issued
in
the
city
of
mountain
view
to
come
and
try
to
address
the
situation,
help
them
take
care
of
it.
J
You
know
if
they
can
write
it
off,
that's
fine
if
they
cannot
at
least
help
them
fix
the
problem,
so
it
doesn't
happen
over
and
over
again
and
a
reconciliation
part
of
it
be
a
reconciliation
program
with
those
who
have
arrested,
and
they
have
this
negative
relationship
with
the
pd
to
start
afresh
and
have
try
to
build
a
new
positive
relationship,
because
we
do
not
want
repeat
offenders
right.
So
that's
those
are
the
things
I'm
interested
in.
C
Yeah
cool,
so
I
am
also
very
interested
in
working
on
the
mental
health
aspect
and
in
particular,
kind
of
connecting
all
the
all
the
resources
we've
been
talking
about.
Just
in
regards
to
youth
connecting
people
in
schools
like
track
and
expanding
our
crisis
response
with
uplift,
because
I've
heard
people
have
some.
C
You
know
it's
hard
to
actually
get
that
crisis
response,
especially
for
dupe,
and
I
also
connecting
that
and
continued
care,
like
I
think,
miriam
was
saying
so
it's
more
comprehensive,
so
kind
of
schools,
christ,
like
immediate
crisis
response
and
then
care
before
or
after
in
terms
of
mental
health.
Then
another
thing
on
mental
health
kind
of
looking
into
whether
or
not
we
could
have
ambulances
or
the
fire
department
or
paramedics
call
5150s,
which
is
psychiatric,
holds
instead
of
only
police
officers.
C
C
I'd
like
to
look
into
police
training,
especially
on
race
and
cross-cultural
communications,
like
someone
mentioned
earlier,
and
also
looking
into
how
we
can
measure
that
and
and
how
do
we
know
if
changes
in
policy
or
if
the
policy
policies
we
have
right
now
work.
Another
thing
is:
what
is
the
other
thing.
I
You
know
just
what
type
of
training
is
around
that,
and
I
know
they
typically
can
ask
for
a
vote
appropriation
record,
because
it's
an
indicator
of
potential
officer
safety
issues,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
times
what
factors
in
to
a
prior
record
is
also
a
decision
to
enforce
and
I'd
be
curious.
If
there's,
you
know
an
avenue
to
kind
of
provide
training
on
the
proper
use
of
criminal
records,
and
you
know
to
maybe
flag
people
who
use
them
too
often,
just
anything
around.
I
I
You
know
allowed
potentially
negotiations
with
the
prosecutorial
section
to
get
off
with
continued
without
a
finding
or
you
know,
avoiding
prison,
and
how
often
do
they
try
to
you
know
basically
avoid
prison
or
jail,
or
you
know
a
criminal
record
being
placed
on
somebody's
record,
because
that
there's
no
really
way
to
get
that
off.
Actually,
I
think
I
did
reset
I'm
curious
about
even
the
topic
of
removing
criminal
records.
I
think
the
public
might
find
that
interesting.
I
I
vaguely
remember
reading
something
about
that's
something
I
think
there's
a
process
if
yeah
you're
cited
you're
criminally
found
responsible
and
you
have
to
actually
initiate
some
sort
of
petition
or
whatever
to
actually
get
a
record
removed
and
it
might
be
interesting.
Well,
I
don't
think
we
can
change
that,
but
but
to
make
that
more
efficient.
I
don't
know
okay.
C
Yes,
a
member
of
linkedin
kind
of
just
reminded
me
of
something
else.
I
think
that's
it's
pretty
similar
and
and
as
part
of
the
kind
of
citation
process
I'm
interested
in
what
is
it
called
seeing
if
there's
a
possibility
or
a
need
to
implement
kind
of
a
board
review
process
in
the
in
the
complaint
process
of
police
officers
and
kind
of
that
investigation?
I
know
there's
part
of
it
where
there's
one
person
who
decides
if
it's
a
minor
or
a
major
which
is
you
know
they
get
all
the
information
first.
C
C
I
think
kind
of
over
like
looking
over
the
the
process
and
then
not
necessarily
this
board
but
kind
of
maybe
like
a
board
made
of
some
other
people
who
have
more
direct
knowledge
of
law
enforcement
or
study
that
and
then
implementing
that
in
the
process
later
so
kind
of
examining
that
process.
And
then.
B
B
Something
and
suggesting
that
a
board
made
up
of
people
who
might
be
a
bit
more
knowledgeable
than
than
us
about
police
procedures
and
things.
Okay
got
it.
Okay,
great
did
I
get
everyone
because
then
I
will
go
yes,
okay.
So
my
only
item
is
I'm
conscious
in
in
the
discussions
about
sros
and
the
discussion
about
mental
health,
we
start
talking
about
the
role
of
a
sworn
officer
in
the
act,
some
of
the
activities
that
go
on
in
those
areas.
B
I
think
some
member
tang
was
talking
about
mediators
and
or
some
traffic
stops
or
there's
a
homeless
person,
and
I
don't
know
what
to
do
right,
so
I
I
feel
like
rather
than
taking
a
big
topic
and
then
and
then
trying
to
figure
out
you
know,
are
there
alternative
responses?
I'd
like
to
also
have
a
topic
about?
B
Where
else
could
there
be
potentially
alternatives
for
non-sworn
officers,
but
still
trained
professionals
to
participate,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
thinking
about
and
because
we've
already
kind
of
delved
into
it
around
mental
health
and
sros?
So
I
think
that
should
kind
of
be
a
topic
on
its
own.
It's
kind
of
where
I'm
going
so
with
that.
O
Oh,
we,
we
should
recap
and
clarify
so
I've
been
trying
to
take
notes,
and
I
think
I
misunderstood
certain
things.
Okay,
so
if
you'd
allow
me
I'd
like
to
basically
just
ask
follow-up
questions
to
each
member
and
make
sure
that
I
understood
clearly
the
things
that
they
propose
and
I'll
do
that
briefly
and
share
my
screen
and
do
so.
O
K
O
O
O
E
O
I
P
I
I
I
guess
the
the
reason
I'm
I'm
most
curious
is:
is
there
potentially
a
better
way
to
do
it?
Where
it
really
looks
at
you
know
each
individual
background
did
do
they?
Sometimes
not
you
know,
have
a
what
the
hell
was.
It
called
a
like
a
diversion
type
program
to
try
and
you
know,
keep
people
out
of
the
justice
system.
I
O
J
O
O
O
Are
made
against
the
police
department?
How
do
we
ensure
that,
so
that
seems
similar
to
what
someone
else
said?
Remember
radovsky,
then
you
also
ask:
how
do
we
ensure
that
departments
that
mvpd
works
with
has
this
are
held
to
the
same
standards
as
nvpd,
and
I
don't
think
I
fully
caught
your
comment
about
further
development
of
conflict
resolution.
G
O
C
O
Oh
I'll
cut
it
later,
don't
worry,
okay,
I'm
just
kidding,
and
then
you
pose
a
question
about
mental
health
of
officers.
Making
sure
officers
have
good
physical
and
mental
health,
and
you
so
we've
got.
Three
people
have
now
raised
the
question
of
whether
or
not
there's
a
role
for
the
psab
and
reviewing
complaints
or
is
there
another
board
that
should
be
reviewing
complaints
against
police?
Is
that
correct.
O
B
B
B
I
don't
see
anything
I
realize
I'm
the
only
thing
standing
between
you
and
the
end
of
this
meeting,
so
I
will
be
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
encourage
everyone
on
the
board
if
members
of
the
public
or
organizations
reach
out
to
you
to
meet
with
you
is
that
you
take
the
opportunity
to
hear
what
they
have
to
say.
B
We
will
be
going
into
work
plan,
recommendations
from
staff
and
discussing
priorities
of
those
and
alex
stevenson
will
be
here
to
give
a
follow-on
update
to
his
the
work
on
the
data
he's
been
collecting
and
reviewing.
So
that's
kind
of
what's
going
on
for
august.
If
you
have
any
comments
on
those
items
in
the
agenda,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
individually
or
directly
to
melvin
or
to
mike.
We
would
love
to
hear
from
you.
I
don't
want
anyone
to
be
surprised.
J
B
Don't
not
feel
listened
to
in
terms
of
forming
that
agenda,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
anything
else
before
we
adjourn,
I
appreciate
everyone
staying
up.
Staying
with
us.
Okay,
I
think
that's
it.
So
I
moved
to
adjourn
and
this
meeting
is
adjourned
at
10,
11
pm
and
everyone
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
evening.