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A
A
I'll
take
a
moment
to
let
our
interpreters
direct
people
to
those
language
channels.
Anna,
could
you
introduce
the
spanish
language
channel.
A
So
that
interpretation
channel
should
be
starting
right
now,
so
as
couple
reminders
here,
please
keep
yourself
muted
during
the
presentation.
We'll
have
an
opportunity
for
q
a
afterward.
Please
use
the
reaction
and
then
raise
hand
tool.
If
you
want
to
ask
a
question,
if
you're
calling
in
please
raise
your
hand
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
using
star9
and
we'll
answer
your
questions
after
the
presentation,
we'll
have
group
discussions
to
talk
about
some
of
the
key
questions
that
we
present
in
this
presentation
today.
A
A
The
r3
zoning
update
is
only
part
of
the
city's
interconnected
housing
programs.
In
addition,
the
city
is
preparing
the
housing
element,
which
is
a
state
requirement
to
plan
for
more
housing
and
address
housing.
Equity
council
direction
was
to
not
rely
on
the
r3
update
to
accommodate
those
units
required
from
the
housing
element.
A
A
A
R3
is
one
of
the
city's
standard
zoning
districts
and
it
is
intended
for
a
broad
range
of
residential
development
types.
It
covers
much
of
the
city
and
almost
all
of
the
neighborhoods
with
multi-family
row
house
and
other
hoa
developments.
The
r3
zone
regulates
development
through
standards
which
new
buildings
need
to
comply
with.
One
of
these
standards
is
maximum
density,
which
can
vary
across
the
r3
zone
depending
on
the
neighborhood.
A
A
A
Just
a
little
technical
difficulties
here:
sorry
about
that,
we'll
keep
the
presentation
going
in
just
a
second
as
soon
as
the
as
soon
as
everybody's,
back
from
the
breakout
rooms
that
were
created.
A
A
So
so
recently,
almost
all
development
has
led
to
expensive
roms
and
a
few
recent
examples
are
shown
on
the
slide
here.
It's
also
important
to
note
that
state
density
bonus
applies
to
r3
today,
which
could
result
in
buildings
more
than
three
stories
and
other
waivers
of
development
standards
such
as
lot
coverage
or
setbacks.
A
So
why
are
we
updating
the
zoning?
As
I
stated
earlier,
the
city
council
has
a
goal
to
increase
housing
options
in
the
city
and
the
r3
zoning
update
is
a
key
part
of
that
effort.
The
city
is
looking
into
a
form-based
approach.
This
means
that
the
standards
focus
on
the
form
of
the
building
rather
than
its
contents.
For
example,
a
building
with
more
small
units
could
be
treated
the
same
as
a
building
with
fewer
large
units.
A
This
has
several
benefits.
The
current
framework
of
densities
do
not
address
neighborhood
conditions.
Through
a
zoning
code
update,
we
can
locate
higher
densities
near
transit
or
services
and
modulate
character.
Defining
standards
like
far
setbacks,
open
area
and
others
to
reflect
changes
in
density
changes
to
standards
can
also
help
create
a
broader
range
of
unit
types,
including
more
stacked
flats,
which
can
be
relatively
more
affordable
than
row,
homes
and
other
product
types.
A
Lastly,
with
a
form-based
approach,
and
by
calibrating
standards
to
each
other,
we
can
create
more
flexibility
while
simultaneously
creating
more
predictability
and
streamlining
the
approval
process.
It
also
needs
to
be
noted
that
there
is
a
state
law.
In
effect
that
says,
we
cannot
reduce
residential
density
or
increase
constraints
on
density.
A
A
A
A
That
framework
looked
at
maximizing
development
potential.
It
looked
at
the
characteristics
of
each
site
and
analyzed
how
large
a
building
the
site
could
feasibly
accommodate.
In
addition,
there
was
analysis
of
how
many
existing
units
could
be
replaced
at
rents
or
sales
prices
affordable
to
those
living
there
today.
A
Earlier
this
year
we
talked
to
a
few
different
stakeholder
groups
and
heard
a
few
key
messages,
so
some
people
wanted
more
housing
and
others
were
more
cautious
about
growth.
Some
wanted
us
to
plan
for
growth
through
precise
plans
or
a
general
plan
update
a
lot
of
concern
about
ensuring
that
infrastructure
parks
and
schools
can
support
growth
interest
in
creating
better
access
to
retail
services
and
amenities,
a
desire
for
new
housing
near
transit
as
we're
designing
housing.
We
should
consider
mobility
and
streetscapes
a
lot
of
desire
to
protect
privacy
and
greenery,
especially
trees.
A
Some
wanted
lower
parking
requirements
to
help
support
housing
development.
Others
wanted
to
minimize
neighborhood
parking
impacts
and
to
ensure
that
people
had
enough
parking
to
serve
their
daily
needs
some
direction
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
reflecting
all
opinions
and
not
hiding
the
downsides
and,
lastly,
to
protect
people
from
displacement
and
rent
increases.
A
This
slide
summarizes
the
previous
2020
approach,
growth
framework
that
I
talked
about.
It
included
these
sub-districts,
ranging
from
two
up
to
six
stories.
The
two-story
sub-district
focused
on
areas
with
small
parcels
and
no
three-story
buildings
in
the
vicinity.
The
three
and
four-story
sub-districts
were
in
areas
with
a
mix
of
different
surrounding
buildings,
building
sizes
and
parcel
sizes.
The
six-story
sub-district
was
just
for
the
sites
with
the
most
development
capacity
and
fewest
surrounding
two-story
buildings,
but,
as
I
said,
we're
taking
another
look
at
how
sub-districts
could
be
different.
A
Rather
than
focusing
on
differences
in
height.
We
could
also
focus,
or,
alternatively,
focus
on
differences
in
scale
and
character.
An
alternative
framework
could
have
lower
intensity
districts,
be
more
house
scale,
and
higher
intensity
districts
could
be
more
block
scale.
These
are
some
alternative
districts.
A
As
you
can
see,
these
images
show
how
buildings
can
be
more
massive,
including
more
width
and
fewer
space
between
adjacent
buildings
at
the
higher
subdistricts,
without
increasing
height
later
in
the
presentation,
we'll
look
at
a
map
of
where
these
districts
could
go
and
during
your
breakout
rooms,
you
can
respond
to
these
pictures.
Is
there
anything
you
like
about
these
buildings
or
things
you
don't
like?
Are
there
locations
where
some
of
these
buildings
might
be
appropriate,
or
even
some
of
the
previous
frameworks,
buildings.
A
Also
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
transitions
of
height
and
scale
to
existing
neighborhoods.
These
pictures
show
how
smaller
building
scales,
including
height
width
and
depth,
can
help
buildings
better
fit
into
the
community,
despite
small
setbacks
and
three
or
four
story
to
one
or
two
story:
transitions.
A
In
addition,
we've
revised
the
proposed
r3
map
and
eliminated
cases
where
higher
intensity
subzones
would
be
added
adjacent
to
lower
density
neighborhoods.
The
lower
intensity
subzones
could
have
new
standards
limiting
scale
both
facing
the
street
and
along
internal
property
lines.
In
addition,
privacy
and
screening
concerns
can
be
addressed
through
landscaping.
A
A
A
A
In
addition,
r1
and
r2
neighborhoods
are
only
adjacent
to
r3a
or
r3b,
at
the
same
time
we're
targeting
higher
intensities
to
key
destinations
like
transit
and
services.
So
you
can
see
on
this
map
of
the
central
neighborhoods.
El
camino
is
along
the
bottom.
Central
is
along
the
top,
as
well
as
on
the
left,
and
the
two
freeways
237
and
85
are
on
the
right.
A
A
Density
around
transit
and
services,
but
that
r3c
the
block
scale,
is
really
only
towards
the
edge
of
the
map
where
there
are
fewer
one
and
two
story:
buildings,
fewer
lower
density,
neighborhoods.
A
And
we'll
be
asking
you
in
the
breakout
rooms
to
weigh
in
on
these
two
maps,
you
can
be
thinking
about
whether
we
should
change
any
of
the
locations
of
subzones
are
any
of
the
previous
subzones.
A
good
idea
anywhere,
where
are
transitions
important?
Where
would
neighborhood
serving
commercial
be
important.
A
And
so
that
summarizes
our
alternative
approach
tonight
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
these
ideas
in
your
breakout
groups.
You
can
discuss
these
questions
that
are
shown
on
the
screen
like
what
do
you
like
about
the
buildings?
What
don't
you
like?
Where
could
they
be
appropriate?
Where
should
pedestrian
and
bicycle
users
be
prioritized?
A
Where
would
you
support
allowing
small
neighborhood
serving
commercial?
What
do
you
like
better
about
the
2022
map
or
the
2020
map?
What
other
ideas
do
you
have
in
closing
I'd
like
to
make
it
clear
that
this
is
not
an
all-or-nothing
approach,
form-based
principles,
neighborhood,
commercial
and
open
space
can
move
forward
with
the
2020
map
and
we
can
use
parts
of
the
2020
framework
and
parts
of
the
2022
framework.
A
And
so
that
kind
of
concludes
our
presentation.
But
before
we
go
to
breakout
groups,
let's
do
some
q
a
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
if
you
have
any
questions
and
beth,
if
you
can
kind
of
track
who
is
in
line
for
the
first
questions,.
D
E
E
E
Scale,
an
evelyn
that
takes
up
a
whole
block,
but
it's
only
two
stories
high,
would
that
be
considered
blocked
scale
under
this
proposal.
A
Yeah,
so
block
scale
is
really
a
measurement
of
how
buildings
relate
with
each
other
kind
of
horizontally,
and
so
you
can
have
two-story
tall
block
scale
buildings.
A
You
can
have
three-story
tall
block
scale
buildings,
it's
really
not
as
as
much
about
height
and
more
about
whether
buildings
are
right
up
next
to
each
other
kind
of
for
the
whole
length
of
a
block
or
whether
there's
you
know
there
could
be
a
small
space
between
buildings,
but
really
you're
kind
of
defining
the
shape
of
the
block
by
buildings
that
are
all
kind
of
along
the
street,
very
close
to
each
other.
E
Yeah,
so
I
I
guess,
if
I
walk
along
villa
most
of
those
buildings,
seem
to
be
really
really
close
to
each
other.
So
I
guess
I'm
confused
why
those
aren't
marked
as
block.
E
A
I
mean
that's
a
great
comment,
so
it
depends
on
the
part
of
villa
street
that
you're
talking
about
some
of
them
are,
but
very
little
of
villa
street
is
actually
in
r3.
So
or
I
mean
which
I
I
guess
I
don't
know
which
part
of
villa
street
you're
talking
about
so.
A
D
G
Thank
you.
I
have
two
per
question
about
the
blocks
that
are
between
so
view
street
and
hope
street
between
california,
and
I
guess
it's
the
block.
That
is,
let's
see
what
is
that
one,
the
the
ones
on
either
side
of
california,
so
I
noticed
that
one
is
marked
r2
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
you
had
already
covered
what
r2
is.
G
A
Some
great
questions,
some
great
comments.
There
definitely
bring
some
of
those
into
the
breakout
group
r2.
The
purpose
of
r2
is
for
one
and
two
unit
developments
so
generally,
duplexes
is
what
you
see
in
r2.
It
allows
up
to
two
stories
today,
so
it's
generally
a
very
similar
character
to
single
family
homes,
but
you
can
have
up
to
two
units
in
a
building
envelope
or
on
a
property.
A
The
other
question
that
you
had
was
about
historic,
we're,
actually
developing
an
updated
historic
ordinance.
Now
we're
just
kicking
it
off.
So
if
you
go
to
our
website,
you'll
see
information
about
that.
We
just
put
up
our
website
about
it
at
mountainview.gov.
A
Slash
historic,
I
think,
is
the
quick
link
for
that
and
the
purpose
of
updating
our
historic
ordinance
is
we're
going
to
develop
a
new
register
of
historic
resources
and
the
register
of
historic
resources
is
going
to
be
a
set
of
all
buildings
and
properties
that
you
actually
can't
demolish
without
a
very,
very
special
process
involving
you
know,
the
california,
environmental
quality
act
and
council
discretion
and
and
people
wouldn't
be
able
to
just
come
in
and
demolish
those
units
by
by
right.
H
Do
I'm
gonna
start
with
a
bit
of
a
comment
and
then
get
to
the
question
so
eric?
As
you
recall,
four
or
five
years
ago,
when
I
was
chairing
the
mountain
view,
environmental
sustainability
task
force,
you
provided
a
lot
of
great
information
about
the
growth
of
residential
population
in
mountain
view,
and
also
the
growth
of
daytime
workers.
H
Here
and
a
few
years
after
the
2009
great
recession,
residential
population
was
growing
slowly,
but
daytime
workers
were
growing
really
rapidly,
so
buildings
that
had
been
empty
during
the
recession
were
refilled,
new
buildings
were
built,
and
so
the
population
of
daytime
workers
exceeded
nighttime
residents
for
the
first
time
putting
tremendous
pressure
on
rents
and
housing
prices.
Here,
as
the
city
has
done,
various
planning
efforts
over
the
last
10
years,
it
has
not
been
able
to
really
push
down
the
jobs,
housing,
imbalance
and
so
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
H
I
would
love
to
see
far
more
housing
growth
in
mountain
view
than
job
growth,
but
neither
the
2020
or
the
22
charts
show
us
what
the
projected
residential
population
change
would
be,
and
so
that's
important
to
me,
because
I
would
like
to
favor
options
that
increase
housing
units
as
much
as
possible,
and
I'd
also
like
to
add
one
one
thought
or
a
question
which
is
during
the
work
of
the
sustainability
task
force.
Four
or
five
years
ago.
H
There
was
a
tremendous
amount
of
interest
in
how
driverless
autonomous
vehicles,
the
kind
of
things
that
waymo
and
neuro
and
other
local
companies
are
working
on,
will
change
land
use.
So,
for
example,
if
I
can
just
call
up
a
vehicle
on
my
smartphone
whenever
I
want
one
and
avoid
having
to
own
a
car
that
sits
in
my
driveway
23
hours
out
of
every
24,
I
don't
see
that
I'll
be
needing
as
much
parking
in
the
future
as
I
have
needed
in
the
past,
and
I
think
this
is
it's
a
little
premature.
H
A
I
I
just
I
those
are
really
outstanding
points
and-
and
I
would
love
to
get
them
down
in
our
notes,
so
I
I
hope
you
can
bring
them
forth
again
in
the
breakout
groups
so
that
we
can
get
them
down
when
we're
when
we're
prepared
with
our
note-taking.
A
D
Okay,
thank
you
bruce.
Okay,
we
have
enough
time
for
massimo
and
after
him,
we'll
have
our
cox.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
My
my
question
actually
is
quick
and
can
be
deferred,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
passionate
about
is
architectural
standards
and,
in
old
mountain
view.
Recently,
in
recent
years,
our
one
developments
have
focused
on
a
hodgepodge
of
architectural
styles
and
designs.
I
That,
in
my
opinion,
have
compromised
the
you
know
the
overall
architectural
consistency,
if
you
would
of
the
neighborhood,
do
your
standards
beside
obviously
addressing
density
and
height
and
and
the
like.
Do
you
address
specifically
architectural
standards,
and
you
know
things
like
roof
lines
and
color
in
a
particular
style
as
or
do
you
shy
away
from
from
going
there
and
you
leave
that
to
to
someone
else?
Thank
you.
A
It's
a
great
question:
it's
actually
one
of
the
big
reasons
why
we
have
opticos
on
board
because
they're
the
the
experts
in
that
whole
kind
of
realm
of
of
kind
of
architectural
standards,
and
so
you
know,
ultimately
it
will
be
a
a
balancing
act
that
the
council
and
epc
are
going
to
have
to
play
in
terms
of
you
know,
providing
flexibility
for
for
development
to
proceed
not
being
too
prescriptive,
but
also
ensuring
that
the
the
neighborhoods
that
people
envision
actually
get
built.
A
J
Yes,
I'm
trying
to
envision,
I
mean
you
had
r3a
before
and
now
you
put
the
property
next
to
me
into
r3b
and
you
so
that
would
be
a
large
house
scale.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
think
about
here
is
how
does
I
guess
two
things?
One
is
the
property
that
backs
up
to
me
is
kind
of
a
long,
thin
apartment,
two-story
apartment
building.
Now
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
does
large
house
scale
mean
for
that
and.
K
A
Well,
that's
an
excellent
question.
I
think
you
know
we
we're
trying
to
get
the
kind
of
high
level
temperature
of
the
community
before
we
get
into
details
of
exactly
what
the
standards
are.
So
we're
trying
to
stay
relatively
high
level
at
this
point,
so
we
don't
have
specific
standards
yet
to
present
a
kind
of
medium
house
scale
could
be.
You
know
it
could
have
a
a
little
bit
more
coverage.
A
You
know,
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
model
the
specific
different
parcel
shapes
that
are
present
in
r3
to
see
how
they
might
how
these
different
directions
could
have
these
different.
A
Kind
of
high
level
concepts
could
have
different
forms
on
different,
lock
shapes,
so
in
general,
large
house
scale
is
still
going
to
have
setbacks,
unlike
maybe
block
scale,
which
might
have
very
small
setbacks.
If
any,
but
the
building
footprints
themselves
could
be
relatively
larger
and
it
may
not
have
an
effect
on
a
relatively
long
skinny
parcel.
K
Sorry,
beth
and
eric
can
we
please
hear
from
mary
and
ed
they're
very
active
in
the
local
community?
Thank
you.
F
Yeah,
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
about
your
presentation.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
council
has
already,
through
the
arena
process,
gotten
mountain
view,
into
a
position
where
we
are
meeting
the
state's
requirements,
and
so
we
don't
have
to
do
this
upgrade
in
order
to
meet
our
arena
numbers
right.
F
We
don't
have
to
do
anything
and
we're
still
doing
far
more
by
by
many
multiples
than
any
other
community
around
us
in
terms
of
adding
housing,
palo
alto,
los,
altos
sunnyvale,
all
the
other
towns
are
not
adding
nearly
as
much
housing
as
we
are
and
in
some
cases,
cases
it's
a
tiny
fraction,
and
yet
we
still
want
to
up
zone
and
do
more.
And
the
second
piece
that
I
want
to
point
out
is
on
your
map.
F
When
you
say
you
know,
you
know,
you're
proposing,
let's
say
going
from
a
two-story
density,
housing
situation
to
let's
say
three
stories
or
four
stories.
The
state
allows
a
density
bonus
to
add
two
more
stories.
So
are
you
know
something
that
can
be.
Three
stories
is
really
five.
If
the
developer
takes
advantage
of
the
state
density
bonus
and
pretty
much
all
of
them
now
are
so
when
people
look
at
that
map.
If
you
see
three
stories,
you
need
to
envision
five.
F
F
You
know
it's
and
I
guess
the
last
point
that
I
want
to
make
is
about
transit.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
our
houses
in
the
central
district
we
often
have.
F
For
example,
my
house
has
a
walk
score
of
52.,
I'm
one
block
from
el
camino
real
with
the
supposedly
awesome
bus
lines
and
I'm
six
blocks
from
the
train,
and
I
have
a
walk
score
of
52
and
I
I
really
have
to
say
that
adding
the
kind
of
density
that
you're
talking
about
and
and
I'm
fine
adding
no
parking,
but
we
need
to
do
what
the
city
of
berkeley
does
when
a
developer
doesn't
put
in
enough
parking.
They
ban
cars
from
those
developments,
if
you're
really
serious
that
our
transit
is
good.
F
Enough
then
put
your
money
where
your
mouth
is
and
don't
allow
cars
there
ban
them
from
the
state
registry
so
that
they
can't.
You
know
the
people
who
live.
There
cannot
register
cars
there
and
then
that
would
be
fine,
but
you
can't
have
it
both
ways
where
the
cars
just
spill
all
over
the
neighborhood
and
then
we
say
oops
well.
We
gave
the
developer
this
great
benefit
and
they
got
the
extra
two
floors
and
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
a
seven-story
building.
A
Appreciate
the
comments
again
comments
better
provided
during
the
breakout
rooms,
appreciate
absolutely
all
of
those
comments,
and
I
think
there
that's
great
input
for
the
breakout
rooms.
We
definitely
want
to
be
ready
to
record
them
when
you
provide
them.
I
will
just
say
one
thing
about
density
bonus.
Remember
that
r3
allows
three
stories
today,
so
any
density
bonus
could
be
applied
today.
On
top
of
that,
so
just
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we're
you're,
absolutely
right,
the
density
bonus
could
apply.
It
could
add
another
story.
A
It
could
add
two
stories,
it's
very
difficult
to
predict
what
could
happen,
but
it
would
apply
today
to
a
three-story
high
limit,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear,
yeah
and
so
let's
come
back
we're.
I
hope
you
had
a
great
time
with
your
group
and
provide
a
lot
of
great
input
into
this
process.
I
know
I
heard
a
lot
of
really
good
stuff.
A
So
let's
talk
to
somebody
from
each
group
and
get
a
summary
of
big
ideas
and
discussion
points
that
came
up
maybe
try
to
keep
it
to
a
couple
of
minutes
per
group
just
so
that
we
can
end
on
time
by
nine
o'clock.
A
L
Group
one
thanks:
yeah
thanks
eric,
so
brittany
and
I
had
a
a
good
group
discussion
with
with
three
people
in
a
visiting
planning.
Commissioner,
who
observed-
I
don't
remember
his
name.
I
think
it
was
bill,
but
I'm
not
positive
and
jamshid
is
going
to
give
the
report
out
for
our
agreement.
M
To
start
out
with
you
know,
we
felt
that
it
was
difficult
to
make
a
decision
about
some
of
the
information,
because
we
just
didn't
have
all
the
information.
Secondly,
I
believe
that
there
was
some
concern
about
trying
to
model
some
of
some
of
the
stuff
on
you
know.
San
antonio
phase,
2
or
you
know,
san
antonio
road,
because
primarily
lack
of
privacy.
M
Also,
another
point
that
came
out
was
people
seem
to
be
in
favor
of
having
neighborhood
businesses,
small
businesses
that
would
serve
that
could
serve
neighborhoods.
Everybody
seems
to
seem
to
like
that,
the
maps
at
the
end,
2020
and
2022
seemed
to
be
definitely
2022
was
not
really
up
to
date.
It.
It
did
not
reflect
a
lot
of
the
current
information.
M
Oh,
yes,
I
think
there
were
people
who
favored
you
know
larger
scale
buildings.
If
the
builder
provided
some
sort
of
you
know
green
space,
there
were
some
people
that
felt
that
was
not
appropriate
because
just
the
the
scale
that
didn't
really
seem
to
fit
the
character
of
the
city,
the
general
feel
was
that
maybe
smaller
buildings,
smaller
footprint
was
more
favorable.
I
think
that's
mostly
what
was
talked
about.
L
M
L
M
Like
san
antonio
phase,
two
and
or
was
that
different,
tony.
L
M
A
N
Thank
you
eric
yeah.
We
had
a
lot
of
people
in
our
group
a
lot
of
good
comments,
I'll
try
to
be
quick
because
we're
running
low
on
time,
I
wouldn't
say,
there's
a
consensus,
but
the
majority
of
those
in
our
room,
favored
kind
of
the
2020
approach.
N
N
When
it
comes
to
transitions,
we
had
some
good
ideas
transition
between
buildings,
where
we
kind
of
mixed
up
topics,
and
some
people
talked
about
the
provision
of
park
space
by
developers
and
using
that
as
a
buffer
between
some
of
the
larger
projects
and
the
surrounding
smaller
neighborhood
buildings.
We
talked
about
open
space,
and
this
this,
I
think,
kind
of
goes
back
to
what
group
one
was
talking
about
the
city,
ensuring
that
that
that
open
space
is
very
high
quality.
N
N
N
A
little
there's
a
lot
of
comments
on
the
middle
part
of
our
map,
kind
of
what's
missing
and
the
the
the
proximity
to
the
train
stations
and
general
comments
about
the
density.
That's
needed
to
kind
of
support
that
transit.
So
I
hope
I
I
hope
I
did
a
fair
summary.
But
that's
that's
what
we
talked
about.
M
And
yeah
mary
is
gonna.
Summarize
our
group's
findings.
F
Great,
I
I
unfortunately
didn't
take
any
notes,
because
I
didn't
know
I
was
gonna-
be
doing
this.
So
sorry
about
that.
So
just
from
memory
we,
there
were
just
a
couple
of
us.
Besides
the
consultants
that
were
in
the
room
and
basically
we
kind
of
talked
about.
We
touched
back
on
the
issue
of
the
fact
that
mountain
view
is
providing
far
more
new
housing
units
than
any
of
the
surrounding
communities
and
that
we
don't
need
to
do
the
up
zoning.
F
So
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
the
property
stays
public
space,
and
that
is
only
done
with
the
you
know.
If
the,
if
the
city
owns
the
park,
we
talked
about
the
canopy
that
is
basically
being
mowed
down
right
now
in
mountain
view,
and
we
are
really
concerned
about
the
increased
density
taking
out
the
remaining
trees
and
how
to
balance
that
and
one
way
that
we
can
do,
that
is
by
asking
developers
to
put
in
much
larger
trees
right
now.
F
We
also
questioned
how
to
really
make
developers
follow
the
spirit
of
the
rules
if
they
are
put
into
effect
around
the
scale
and
massing
of
the
developments
that
basically,
we
see
developers
a
lot
of
times.
Either
they
get
council
approval
and
then
they
come
back
and
ask
for
a
design
review
meeting
and
they
make
a
bunch
of
changes
when
the
community
is
not
looking
or
they
or
they
just
kind
of
build
something
else.
F
And
then
it's
too
late
and
there's
nothing
that
can
be
done,
and
so,
in
our
experience,
there's
very
few
buildings
that
are
really
meeting
that
public
private
trade
in
the
design
and
the
massing.
Let's
see,
we
also
talked
about
the
density
bonus,
the
fact
that
whatever
the
city
gives
what
we're
seeing
in
the
developers
we've
met
with
recently
for
all
the
proposed
developments
around
the
central
area,
every
single
developer
is
planning
to
use
the
density
bonus
that
there's
not
one
that
isn't
going
to
do
it.
F
F
The
other
thing
is
is
that
we
talked
about
parking
and
how,
even
though
we
don't
have
the
parking
programs
for
residential
residential
areas,
yet
that
the
city
is
in
process
redoing
those
and
at
that
point
they
should
have
them,
and
we
should
be
able
to
trade
developers
or
record
on
their
properties
that
they
would
not
participate
in
a
program
in
exchange
for
additional
height.
We
should
ask
for
things
you
know
hard
and
fast
in
exchange
for
these
heights.
F
If
we're
going
to
actually
go
up
and
allow
more
height,
and
let's
see
we
barely
covered
the
small
bay
retail
thing.
But
you
know
again:
we've
watched
developers
subvert
those
rules.
The
city
will
ask
for
small
bay
retail,
then
council,
when
they're
approving
a
development
will
again
reiterate
that
and
then,
like
sebrato,
did
at
599
castro,
where
there
was
the
new
wells.
Fargo
branch
is
located.
F
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
from
not
going
off
in
notes.
That's
pretty
impressive
memory!
Thank
you.
How
about
what
are
we
on
group
four.
O
Yep
I'll
be
presenting
group
four.
A
lot
of
group
had
similar
comments
to
what
mary
had
presented.
There
are
a
lot
of
concerns
regarding
increased
density
and
its
impacts
to
the
neighborhood
character.
O
D
Okay,
I'll
be
representing
group
five
I'll
start
start
by
saying
that
we
wanted
to
know
more
about
the
2022
approach
and
have
it
either
visualized
or
understand
its
constraints
and
principles
behind
them.
Next,
they
had
some
thoughts
about
the
map,
like
questioning
whether
it
should
go
down
a
sub-district
or
go
up
a
sub-district
more
in
the
northeast
part
of
this
neighborhood.
D
A
topic
was
about
the
architecture,
style
and
height
transitions
and
trying
to
avoid
boxes
next,
to
beautiful
victorians,
really
support
for
tapering,
especially
to
promote
solar
heights
and
proximities
to
zones
to
smaller
zones,
really
enjoyed
talking
about
park,
place
apartments
being
a
great
example
next
to
forget,
which
park
and
a
lot
of
support
for
well-labored
well-labeled
open
spaces,
so
that
the
public
knows
they
can
use
it
for
and
finally
talking
about
the
commercial
uses,
they'd
like
them
cautiously
located
and
have
specific
limits
on
times
of
day
and
uses
so
and
locations
for
that
could
be
in
block
scale
zones
as
well
as
corners
of
the
blocks.
A
That's
great,
that's
great!
Thank
you
so
much
beth.
Thank
you!
So
much
group
five.
I
think
that
was
everybody
right
awesome
again.
Thank
you
all
for
your
input
tonight.
I
have
just
a
couple
more
slides
as
we
close
and
then
I'll.
Let
you
all
go
so
just
one
second.
A
A
You
will
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
comments
on
all
these
topics.
You
can
go
to
this
website
and
there'll
be
a
link
there
to
our
conveyo
website,
which
will
provide
an
opportunity
for
you
to
navigate
through
all
of
this
information
and
continue
to
provide
topics
on
all
of
this.
So
please
join
that
continued
conversation.
A
So
that
concludes
our
presentation
and
this
this
workshop.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time.
This
evening.
I
have
a
couple
of
minutes.
If
there
are
any
last-minute
questions
before
people
want
to
go,
but
again,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
coming
really
appreciate.
Taking
your
time
out
of
your
your
busy
weekday
and
your
your
busy
tuesday,
so
have
a
good
night.
P
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
weren't
asked
about.
I
have
read
in
the
mountain
voice
recently
that
the
proposals
are
for
up
to
15
000
developments,
which
might
involve
an
extra
65
000
people
on
top
of
the
80
000
people
who
are
already
in
mountain
view,
I'm
pretty
uncomfortable
with
that
amount
of
growth.
P
I'd
like
to
see
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
how
the
city
envisions
that
kind
of
growth
and
what
kind
of
city
we're
going
to
be.
If
we
add
65
000
more
people
to
the
80
000
that
we've
got.
A
So
that
is
part
of
the
housing
element
and
as
part
of
that
process
and
again,
housing
element
is
separate
from
r3.
The
the
housing
element
doesn't
assume
any
growth
in
r3.
The
housing
element
is
looking
at
all
the
potential
growth
that
could
come
from
plants
that
we've
already
adopted.
El
camino
north
bay
shore,
east
wisman,
san
antonio,
and
what
is
really
the
build
out
of
that.
A
That
is
a
very
long
term,
build
out
number
that
we're
studying
as
a
kind
of
cumulative
scenario
in
the
housing
element
and
and
that's
different
from
the
15
000
units.
So
thirty,
sixty
five
thousand
people
is
a
lot
more
than
fifteen
thousand
units.
The
fifteen
thousand
units
is
what
we
need
to
that's
about.
A
Thirty
thousand
people
is
what
we
need
to
look
at
for
the
housing
element,
and
so
we
need
to
show
to
the
state
that
what
they
are
requiring
of
us
is
already
within
what
we
already
allow,
and
so
that's
that
those
calculations
are
part
of
that
housing
element,
analysis
and
and
the
environmental
impact
report
for
the
housing
element,
which
is
out
for
public
review.
Now,
if
you
want
to
fall
asleep,
really
quickly,
tonight
go
ahead
and
get
up
and
start
reading
it,
but
we
do
encourage
people's.
A
What
is
the
city
analyzing
for
the
potential
growth
of
a
significant
number
of
new
populations
so
and
all
of
that's
going
to
be
presented
to
the
epc
and
council
as
part
of
the
housing
element
in
about
three
months.
A
F
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
since
you,
as
the
staff
staff
person,
seem
to
be
leading
this.
How
do
you?
How
do
we
get
the
kind
of
housing
that
we
need
in
mountain
view,
affordable
and
first
time,
home
buyer
and
let
the
luxury
stuff
come
as
it
will,
because
it
will
always
fill
in
you
know.
Every
developer
is
going
to
step
up
for
luxury
whenever
there's
a
profit
to
be
made,
but
this
other
stuff
isn't
either
very
profitable
for
them
or
it's
not
profitable
at
all
and
my
take
on
it.
F
I've
pretty
much
come
to
the
conclusion
after
watching
this
for
20
years.
Is
that
we're
not
going
to
get
affordable
unless
we
just
buckle
under
and
don't
upzone,
because
up
zoning
raises
land
prices.
If
we
don't
upzone,
we
keep
the
prices
lower
and
then
we
go
make
public-private
partnerships
between
the.
A
H
A
Those
are
our
points
that
we're
looking
at.
I
I
do
encourage
you
to
continue
to
make
that
point
both
to
your
leaders
and
and
to
staff.
You
know
it's
a
good
comment.
A
You
know,
I
think,
not
that
you
know
city,
council
or
staff
are
advocating
for
that
one
way
or
another,
but
it's
certainly
a
good
comment
that
adds.
You
know
nuance
very
subtle,
nuance
to
the
the
discussion,
but
to
answer
your
question:
what
are
we
doing
to
add?
Affordable
housing?
Again,
that's
something
that
you
can
look
at
in
the
housing
element.
We
have
a
whole
range
of
programs
to
to
encourage
more
affordable
housing.
Q
A
Q
Q
Where
is
the
city
of
mountain
view
going
to
I,
I
don't
think
the
renters
pay
taxes
as
the
people
who
live
in
and
own
their
homes,
do
that
support
schools
and
parks,
and
things
like
that,
and
I
don't
think
the
developer,
the
owner
of
the
of
the
development
pays
into
that
kind
of
tax
either.
Can
you
explain
that
to
me.
A
Q
Q
So
the
city
levies,
that
tax
or
do
they
pay
the
owner,
so
the
owner
doesn't
have
to
pay
the
tax,
because
I
think
the
owners
of
the
developments
would
pay
a
different
rate
than
single-family
home.
F
A
I
don't
think
that
we
can.
We
can
summarize
any.
You
know
generalities
about
who's,
paying
more
taxes.
You
know,
rent,
you
know,
owners
of
multi-family,
rental
buildings
or
owners
of
single-family
homes.
It's
it's.
I.
A
R
A
A
But
it's
a
great
question
and
you
know:
there's
probably
other
great
resources
out
there
to
to
better
inform
you
about
property
taxation.
A
Yeah,
that's
generally
the
strategy,
and
there
are
a
number
of
different
things
that
the
city
can
do
to
levy
fees
on
new
development
and
already
do
levy
fees
on
new
development
for
things
like
utilities
and
and
roads,
and
you
know,
transit,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
infrastructure
and
things
like
that,
but
again
very
complicated.
A
But
yes,
you're
you're
along
the
right
line
that
taxes
are
generally
for
ongoing
purposes.
But
fees
on
development
are
for
new
capital
projects.
R
And
the
fees
for
schools
are
capped
by
the
state
legislature
and
the
building
industry
association
has
them
capped
at
an
amount
that
basically
enables
renting
portables
but
not
to
acquire
new
land
or
do
new
construction
and
the
city
as
eric
points
out,
has
no
control
over
that
and
has
been
threatened.
This
the
bi,
the
building
industry
association,
has
threatened
to
sue
all
of
us,
so
I'm
on
the
mount
v
wisconsin
school
board.
For
those
who
don't
know
me.
A
Excellent
points,
yes,
you're.
Absolutely
right!
Fees
for
schools
are
set
by
the
state
at
a
at
a
pretty
low
rate,
so
it
is
9
10..
I
do
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
me
by
email,
if
you
have
any
other
questions
happy
to
respond
to
any
other
questions
by
email
and
and
please
stay
engaged
with
the
with
the
website
materials.
If
you
have
anything
else
that
you
want
to
say
so
thanks
again
and
have
a
wonderful
night.