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Live Teleconference of the Meeting of the City of Mountain View's Rental Housing Committee
A
A
Good
evening
welcome
to
the
June
12
rental
housing
committee
meeting
for
those
joining
us
in
person.
Please
note
that,
due
to
our
hybrid
environment,
audio
and
video
recordings
can
no
longer
be
shared
from
the
lectern
and
we
do
not
have
anyone
joining
us
in
person
at
the
moment
and
additionally,
due
to
our
hybrid
environment,
we
will
no
longer
have
speakers
line
up
to
speak
on
an
item.
Anyone
wishing
to
address
the
committee
who
comes
in
person
will
need
to
complete
a
green
speaker
card.
A
A
So
we
will
now
move
to
agenda
item
three
which
is
closed
session,
and
so
we
will
be
adjourning
to
a
separate
room
during
closed
session.
So
I
need
to
read
all
of
this
out
loud.
Okay,
thank
you.
The
rental
housing
committee
will
enter
a
separate
room
to
discuss.
Existing
litigation
regarding
enlightened
Investments
include
Inc
versus
city
of
Mountain,
View,
rental,
housing,
committee,
city
of
Mountain,
View,
Santa,
Clara,
Superior,
Court
case
number,
21cv,
390118,.
A
The
committee
will
reconvene
in
the
council
chambers
for
the
public
meeting
once
the
closed
session
has
ended.
Legal
counsel
will
report
any
updates
from
the
closed
section
closed
session
during
agenda
item
10.
I
now
invite
public
comments.
There
are
no
in-person
speakers,
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
provide
virtual
comment
on
this
closed
session
item.
Please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
Zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
display
a
countdown
timer
on
the
screen.
A
A
Hello:
everyone,
the
public
meeting,
has
reconvened
at
7,
P,
7,
30
P.M.
We
will
now
move
to
agenda
item
four
consent:
calendar
which
has
one
item
minutes
from
our
last
meeting
and
I
think
we
are
looking
for
a
motion
regarding
those
minutes.
A
Do
I
need
to
oh,
let
me
ask
for
public
comment.
First,
are
there
any
members
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
in
public
in
person
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
consent
calendar
seeing
none
if
there
are
any
members
on
Zoom
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
consent
calendar?
A
G
Text
under
12
be
updated
to
mention
that
chair
Edie
Keating
adjourned.
The
meeting
instead
of
Vice
chair
Guadalupe
Rosas.
G
E
A
So
now
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
F
A
J
J
In
the
meantime,
I
was
living
in
the
apartment
and
the
structure
was
starting
to
deteriorate
and
it's
not
deteriorating
rapidly
and
what's
going
on
now
is
that
as
of
May
10th,
it
did
get
sold
to
a
new
owner.
However,
the
new
owner
is
now
trying
to
turn
around
and
say
that
I
owe
them
money
for
debts
to
the
previous
owner,
which
is
illegal
also
when
the
hearings
for
rent
reduction
took
place
in
2021
and
2022.
J
That
was
issued
me
at
10
o'clock
on
the
26th,
which
was
a
Friday
at
night,
not
in
the
morning
and
I've
already
filed
an
answer
to
the
court,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
the
the
a
jury
eviction
hearing,
but
the
bottom
line
is
this:
the
contract
I
wrote
I
signed
with
AWI
LLC,
which
probably
now
is
completely
defunct,
was
the
only
contract
that
entitled
payment
up
till
May
10th
regarding
the
transition
of
power,
however,
and
I
have
a
letter
to
prove
that,
and
so
recently
I
sent
a
check
for
my
June
rent
to
the
address
per
the
letter
on
dated
May
10th.
J
So
at
this
point
in
time,
I'm
just
saying
there
was
clearly
something
very
ugly
going
on
here
and
I
think
what
was
really
going
on
is
that
someone
in
the
city
knew
that
the
building
was
going
to
be
forced
to
be
sold
and
they
did
everything
they
could
to
avoid.
Having
any
proper
inspection
of
my
structure
right
now.
Every
time
I
walk
to
my
bet,
my
living
room,
the
room
shakes,
and
it's
got
severe
tilting
of
the
floor
that
can
be
measured
by
a
bubble
meter.
J
You
know
a
bubble
bubble
level
at
this
point
in
time,
I'm
simply
saying
due
to
the
fact
that,
with
health
information,
it
appears
that
my
entire
process
regarding
my
rental
reduction
hearings
was
made
void
because
there
was
not
proper
disclosure
of
this
information,
and
none
of
the
tenants
knew
about
this.
For,
for
those.
F
A
K
The
following
is
an
overview
of
the
csfre
budget
for
next
year.
These
numbers
were
discussed
in
the
previous
meeting
with
five
key
categories:
Personnel
add
1
million
175
456
Dollars
General
operating
cost
of
174
500
Professional
Services
for
a
total
of
three
hundred
and
eighty
nine
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
I.T
systems
and
maintenance
for
a
hundred
and
eleven
thousand
dollars
and
City
resources
and
administrative
support
for
155
000
and
380
dollars.
K
Similarly,
for
the
mhr
result,
the
budget
looks
as
follows:
for
a
total
of
three
hundred
and
forty
six
thousand
nine
hundred
and
eleven
dollars,
Personnel
for
175
951,
General
operating
costs,
twenty
thousand
five
hundred
Professional
Services
110,
000,
I,
T
services,
five
thousand
dollars
and
City
resources
and
administrative
support
for
twenty
six
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars.
And
there
is
oh
if
you
could
go
back
yeah.
So
we
added
a
reserve
of
Thirteen
thousand
eight
hundred
seventy
six
dollars
per
your
request.
K
K
So
the
recommendation
for
tonight
is
for
the
rental
housing
committee
to
adopt
a
resolution
to
adopt
the
fiscal
year,
2324
budgets
for
the
csfra
and
the
mhrso,
and
establishing
this
rental
fee
sufficient
to
support
these
budgets.
The
resolution
was
an
attachment
to
the
memo
and
it
you
can
just
mention
that
it's
being
read
in
title
only
for
a
reading
waived
ends
the
presentation.
A
A
G
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
the
staff
for
good
work
on
this
and,
in
particular,
being
able
to
include
reserve
for
the
mobile
home
ordinance
in
in
a
way
that
it
ended
up
working
out
so
that
the
fees
are
basically
where
they
were
before
and
we're
able
to
still
do
that.
So
good
work
on
that
part
also
good
work
on
the
csfra.
C
E
A
L
I
I
B
Yeah
I
had
I
I
put
her
in
as
an
attendee
instead
of
a
panelist,
and
we
can
hear
her,
so
we
won't
be
able
to
see
her.
M
That's
okay:
the
slides
are
it's
important
where
we
can
get
started.
If
you
all
can
hear
me
now,
okay,
we
can
go
to
the
first
slide.
So
the
purpose
of
agenda
item
8.2
is
to
review
and
adopt
amendments
to
the
following
regulations.
The
first
is
csfri
regulations,
chapter
five
hearing
procedure
to
clarify
that
a
hearing
officer,
May
issue
a
subpoena
to
compel
relevant
evidence
or
witness
testimony
in
a
petition
hearing
and
similarly
to
mhrso
regulations,
chapter
six
hearing
procedure
and
to
do
the
same
thing
as
background.
M
The
mhr
so
does
all
the
same
things.
So
I
will
not
repeat
all
of
that.
M
M
Neither
the
csfra
nor
the
mhrso,
nor
the
implementing
regulations
expressly
provide
for
delegation
of
this
power
from
the
rental
housing
committee
to
the
hearing
officers,
in
accordance
with
staff's
long-standing
practice,
to
recommend
changes
to
the
rental
housing
committee
to
address
issues
that
have
been
raised
to
staff
in
its
day-to-day
operations.
These
amendments
are
being
proposed
for
both
the
csfra
and
mhrso.
M
M
M
And
finally,
the
proposed
amendments
would
require
that
any
party
to
a
petition
who
is
requesting
that
a
subpoena
be
issued
must
do
so
on
a
form
approved
by
the
rental
housing
committee
or
its
designee,
and
will
be
responsible
for
service
of
the
subpoena
on
the
appropriate
party.
After
this
peanut
is
issued.
M
So
the
staff's
recommendation
is
to
adopt
amendments
to
csfri
regulations,
chapter
5
hearing
procedure
and
mhrso
regulations,
chapter
6
hearing
procedure
to
clarify
that
a
hearing
officer,
May
issue
a
subpoena
to
compel
relevant
evidence
or
witness
testimony
in
a
petition
hearing
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
F
Thank
you
chair,
so
my
my
question,
I
guess,
is
also
posed
a
bit
as
a
comment.
It
appears
that
the
proposed
amendments
would
also
help
streamline
the
process
for
the
hearing
officers.
Is
that
correct.
M
Yes,
exactly
so,
it
helps
with
ensuring
that
petition
hearings
are
heard
in
a
timely
fashion.
If
it
required
the
hearing
officer
to
submit
the
request
to
the
rental
housing
committee,
then
it
would
prolong
the
petition
process
and
potentially
take
us
out
of
the
sort
of
timelines
that
have
been
set
up
for
those
petition
hearings
or
it
would
require
the
rental
housing
committee
to
maybe
hold
special
meetings
if
we
want
to
stay
on
top
of
that,
which
is
an
additional
administrative
version,
so
is
intended
to
streamline.
M
Also
to
add
to
that,
you
know
the
hearing
officers
they're,
the
ones
that
are
intimately
involved
with
each
petition
and
the
facts
and
they're
going
to
know
best
what
is
or
is
not
relevant
evidence
or
witness,
testify
testimony
to
subpoena
versus
having
to
come
back
to
the
committee
or
to
staff
who
don't
have
as
much
context
about
that.
H
Thank
you
chair.
Well,
my
only
concern
or
question
that
I
have
would
be
what
would
be
the
process
in
which
the
person
or
persons
or
entity,
or
that
the
hearing
officer
would
request
the
subpoena
too,
like,
for
example,
if
I
get
a
letter
in
the
mail
and
then
I
see
is
coming
from,
you
know
some.
H
M
Sure,
and
so
I
would
like
to
reiterate
that
the
rental
housing
committee
already
is
empowered
with
this
ability
to
subpoena
Witnesses
and
relevant
documents,
and
I'll
also
note
that
this
has
not
come
up.
You
know
an
extraordinarily
large
amount
of
times.
It's
come
up
in
a
few
instances,
and
so
you
know
I
think
any
concern
that
this
might
be
used
in
an
appropriate
behavior
I.
You
know,
I,
don't
think
that
that
we've
seen
that,
but
essentially
what
would
happen
you
know
as
proposed.
M
What
would
happen
is
that
either
the
hearing
officer
you
know
either
after
the
hearing
or
after
the
pre-hearing
conference
would
determine
if
they
need
additional
evidence
or
documents
that
they
don't
currently
have
in
order
to
reach
their
decision,
or
if
you
know
the
request
is
coming
from
a
party,
then
the
party
would
explain
why
they
need
these
additional
documents
or
witness
testimony.
M
M
So
in
that
case
you
know
it
would
be
compelling
someone
to
show
up
for
the
hearing.
Similarly,
for
Relevant
evidence,
you
know
again,
that's
usually
going
to
go
to
maybe
some
sort
of
other
government
entity
from
which
they
need
relevant
documents
or
records
business
records.
Things
like
that.
M
M
They
would
then
issue
The
subpoena
in
the
name
of
the
rental
housing
committee.
It
would
be
formally
served
on
whoever
it
is,
whether
it's
a
business
or
an
individual,
and
that
person
would
either
be
required
to
show
up
you
know
at
the
hearing
or
to
provide
the
documents
that
are
being
requested
prior
to
the
hearing
or
at
the
hearing.
They
could
show
to
the
hearing
with
the
documents-
and
you
know
it
is
a
legal
administrative
order,
so
there
are
consequences
for
not
showing
up
or
not
providing
the
documents.
A
Could
you
go
I'd
like
to
ask
a
question
myself?
Could
you
go
back
to
the
slide
where
it
talked
about
serving
or
serving
this
I
think
this?
Is
it.
A
I
guess
my
question
was
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
where
I
wanted
the
slide.
I
wanted,
but
there's
something
about
who
serves
the
subpoena.
M
Yeah
sure
so
in
the
case
that
the
party
there's
a
party
that
is
requesting
the
subpoena
then
The
subpoena
after
it's
issued,
will
need
to
be
served
by
that
party,
since
they
are
the
one
requesting
it.
On
the
other
hand,
if
the
subpoena
is
being
issued,
susponte
or
you
know,
of
the
hearing
officer's
own
accord,
then
the
program
will
be
responsible
for
service
of
it.
M
Sure
so,
typically
for
I
mean
there
are
different
methods
of
service,
but
the
most
typical
being
personal
service,
which
is
where
you
literally
show
up
to
the
person's
home
or
the
business
that
you're
subpoenaing
and
you
serve
it
on
them.
It
could
not
be
the
party
themselves,
that's
what
state
law
says.
So
it
cannot
be
the
party
to
the
petition
who
would
be
serving
it,
but
it
could
be
anyone
over
the
age
of
18
who
can
do
it
or
they
can
hire
professional
process
server.
M
You
know
company
or
agent.
You
know
agent
to
do
that,
and
they
would
just
you
know
when
someone
as
you've
seen
in
the
I'm
certain
TV
shows
and
movies
when
they
open
the
door,
you
literally
get
handed
a
documents,
as
you've
been
you've
been
served
and
that
sort
of
it
there
are
other
other
methods
like
through
the
mail
posting
that
can
also
be
used
in
case.
You
are
not
able
to
personally
serve.
C
A
J
Again,
thank
you.
For
the
time
I
mean
I
was
in
my
process
of
my
rental
reduction
hearings,
but
happened.
J
This
agency
has
not
yet
seen
the
complete
picture
when
it
comes
to
what
needs
to
be
done
as
a
group,
even
though
it's
been
around
since
2016,
which
my
book
means
that
there
should
have
been
plenty
of
time
for
the
learning
curve.
In
any
case,
I
believe
other
organizations
have
had
much
better
templates
to
work
with,
and
it
just
seems
to
me
like
for
some
reason.
The
system
here
has
done
a
very
delayed
practice
of
implementing
what
has
been
proven
to
be
effective
methods.
J
And
yet
all
I
can
say
is
that
again,
if
I
had
the
opportunity
to
subpoena
the
witnesses
that
originally
submitted
documents
saying
it
that
certain
things
were
being
met
and
yet
had
no
evidence
to
back
it
up
other
than
just
their
Written
Letter?
That
would
have
been
a
major
change
in
my
particular
due
process
rights,
and
this
is
again.
J
This
is
the
key
issue
here
we're
dealing
with,
even
though
it's
not
considered
quote
a
court
any
quasi-judicial
hearing
as
a
requirement
for
the
appearance
of
non-bias
and
the
the
both
the
substantive
and
procedural
due
process
and
from
what
I'm
seeing
here,
there
has
been
a
lot
of
lacking.
J
We
decided
that
this
place
needs
that
for
repair,
but
you
don't
get
it,
and
so
that
means
you
have
a
blatant
contradiction
there
that,
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
failure
to
comply
with
res
judica,
which
is
of
course
following
the
rules
that
you've
already
set
up
by
a
previous
decision.
A
N
Good
evening
everybody
can
you
hear
me
yes,
hi?
Thank
you.
Everybody
first
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I've
had
experience
with
the
petition
process
and
the
hearing
officers
have
been
really
good
and
really
helpful
in
getting
both
sides
to
produce.
You
know
evidence.
That's
helpful
to
the
decision.
N
I
did
just
want
to
say,
though,
that
I'm
a
little
bit
worried
about
the
language
on
The
subpoena,
because
what
it
says
is
that
it
says
that
the
party
that
is
not
requesting
the
subpoena
May
challenge,
The
subpoena,
on
the
basis
that
the
documents
are
witness
testimony
requested,
is
not
relevant
to
the
issues
presented
in
this
in
the
petition
and
I
guess.
It
goes
back
to
Committee
Member
Rosa's
comment,
which
is
that
when
people
receive
subpoenas
it
is,
it
is
scary,
and
just
because
you
receive
a
subpoena
doesn't
mean
you're.
N
Waiving
your
rights
to
privacy,
let's
say
medical
information,
financial
information.
It
also
doesn't
mean
that
you've
waived
your
rights
to
be
properly
served.
You
know
if
they
knock
on
your
door
and
they
hand
it
to
your
five-year-old.
That's
not
that's
not
appropriate
and
that's
not
proper
service
and
also
I.
Think
it's
possible
that
a
subpoena
might
be
so
broad
as
to
be
unreasonably
burdensome
on
a
business
or
on
an
individual.
N
So
I
just
wanted
to
call
those
items
out
that
perhaps
there
should
be
a
little
more
basis
for
the
person
receiving
the
subpoena
to
challenge
it
on
reasonable
grounds
that
are
common
in
under
California
law
and
also
to
allow
the
hearing
officer
to
be
able
to
narrow
or
deny
a
subpoena
request
on
those
grounds.
Thank
you.
F
G
Staff
for
a
thoughtful
understanding
of
what
should
be
done
in
this
case
and
support
the
recommendation,
both
because
of
what
committee
matter.
Member
Madison
raised
a
matter
of
streamlining
and
efficiency,
but
also
because
I
believe
that
it's
in
the
spirit
of
the
csfra
to
have
you
know.
The
first
level
of
decision
in
the
petition
process
be
primarily.
H
I
am
surely
inclined
to
say
yes
to
the
proposed
staff
recommendation.
The
only
thing
I
would
like
obviously
I
I
want
to
be
clear:
I
want
every
I
want
things
to
be
streamlined
most
efficiently
and
also,
but
I
am
still
a
little
bit
Eerie
in
terms
of
how
the
scene
The
subpoena,
would
be
handed
out
like,
for
example,
can
we
get
some
guidelines
in
terms
of
who
should
receive
the
subpoena?
H
H
K
And
we
can
definitely
put
some
explanatory
language
with
the
form,
so
people
know
what
they
need
to
do
and
what
the
steps
are
in
the
process.
Okay,.
C
Yeah
regarding
one
of
the
public
comments
Theresa
for
the
ability
of
the
hearing
officer
to
decline,
The
subpoena
can
we
say,
decline
in
whole
or
in
part
to
be
able
to
amend
it
such
that
nobody,
broad
one,
could
be
scoped
better
to
what
parts
are
relevant.
M
Yeah
yeah.
That
is
something
that
you
as
long
as
you
all
include
that
in
your
motion,
we
can
go
ahead
and
make
that
small
adjustment
to
say
you
know
they
can
approve
or
decline
in
polar
and
part
or
revised
as
appropriate
bad
language.
To
that
effect,
you
don't
need
to
say
all
of
that,
but
just
in
your
motion,
if
you
could
say
that
that
revision
will
be
made,
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
do
it
awesome.
C
G
I
would
like
to
move
the
staff
recommendation
by
adopting
Amendment
for
the
following
regulations:
csfra
regulation,
chapter
5
hearing
procedure
to
clarify
that
a
hearing
officer,
May
issue
a
subpoena
to
compel
relevant
evidence
or
witness
testimony
in
a
petition
hearing
and
two
mhrso
regulations,
chapter
6
hearing
procedure
to
clarify
that
a
hearing
officer,
May
issue
a
subpoena
to
compel
relevant
evidence
or
witness
testimony
in
a
petition
hearing.
Adding
a
clause
saying
that
relevant.
E
A
A
L
Yes
good
evening,
so
we're
here
tonight
to
discuss
appeals
procedures
in
part,
because
a
lot
of
you
are
new
to
this
process,
but
also
because
we
do
expect
to
have
an
appeal
on
your
August
agenda.
So
hopefully
this
will
be
helpful.
L
So
what
we're
going
to
go
over
tonight
is
just
the
purpose
of
the
appeal
process.
What
a
closed
record
versus
an
open
record
means
you'll,
hear
the
term
de
novo
thrown
out
from
time
to
time
in
appeals
process.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
people
understand
that
some
guidelines
on
hearing
and
deciding
appeals
and
then
some
potential
policy
decisions
so
next
slide.
L
So
when
an
appeal
comes
before
the
rental
housing
committee,
it's
coming
from
the
hearing
officers,
so
the
initial
step
in
our
petition
process
is
that
a
hearing
officer
issues
a
decision.
When
that
hearing
officer
issues
a
decision
either
party
can
appeal
the
decision
to
the
rental
housing
committee
people.
The
parties
have
10
days
to
appeal.
We
have
appeal
forms,
so
that's
how
it
gets
to
you.
What
can
be
appealed
is
whatever
the
purpose
of
the
petition
is
so
we've
listed,
we
sort
of
have
five
main
categories
of
petitions.
L
Any
party
who's
unhappy
with
that
decision
can
then
appeal
that
decision
to
the
Superior
Court.
So
your
decision
is
not
actually
the
final
word,
but
the
next
step
for
the
the
parties
is
to
take
it
to
court.
So
the
process
before
we
get
to
court
often
is
called
an
administrative
hearing
and
then
once
we
get
to
court,
you
know
we're
dealing
with
a
judge,
but
for
the
appeal
process,
you
essentially
function
as
the
judge
next
slide.
L
First
of
all,
it
means
that
they
get
adequate
notice
and
an
opportunity
to
be
heard,
so
they
get
notice
of
when
the
hearing
is
they
get
notice
of
information
that
will
be
presented
at
the
hearings
that
they
can
respond
to
it,
and
you,
in
your
regulations,
have
processes
that
are
designed
to
ensure
that
there
is
adequate
due
process.
L
We
typically
issue
a
tentative
decision
to
guide
the
rental
housing
committee
that
is
provided
to
the
parties
at
least
10
days
before
the
hearing,
and
the
parties
are
given
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
that
before
the
hearing,
so
that
gives
them
notice.
Nobody
should
walk
into
the
hearing,
surprised
at
what
is
going
to
be
presented
by
staff.
L
The
other
aspect
of
due
process
is
a
fair
hearing
before
an
impartial
trial
or
fact
in
law.
So
what
that
means
is
we
are
looking
for
deciders
who
are
not
biased
that
come
into
the
hearing
with
an
open
mind
and
that
look
at
the
information
that
is
presented
to
them
and
balance
that
information
and
then
make
a
determination
based
on
that
so
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
as
we
go
through
this
next
slide.
L
So,
as
I
said
before,
any
party
can
appeal
the
decision
and
sometimes
both
parties
can
appeal
the
decision,
and
we
also
have
procedures
for
that
as
to
how
we
handle
hearings.
When
we
have
both
parties
appealing
on
the
appeal
you,
the
committee
can
either
affirm
the
hearing
officer's
decision,
you
can
reverse
that
decision,
so
come
up
with
a
completely
different
decision
or
you
can
modify
the
decision
so
and
we've
seen
this
happen
in
our
appeals
hearing
where
we've
accepted
portions
of
the
hearing
officer's
decision,
but
not
all
of
it.
L
We're
going
to
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
the
csfra
and
the
mhrso
regulations
both
say
that
the
appeal
is
based
on
the
hearing
record
and
that
the
committee
should
neither
hear
nor
find
facts
in
addition
to
those
presented
to
the
hearing
officer.
So
what
we're
really
looking
at
is
the
petition
hearing
with
the
hearing
officer.
That
is
the
opportunity
for
all
the
parties
to
present
whatever
evidence
for
witnesses
to
be
heard.
L
Etc.
The
regulations
we
just
talked
about
are
designed
to
make
sure
that
there
are
opportunities
for
the
produce
to
get
all
of
that
evidence
into
the
record
when
the
appeal
gets
to
you.
The
expectation
is
that
we
are
just
looking
at
those
documents.
We
are
not
requesting
new
evidence
from
the
parties
as
part
of
the
appeal
process
next
slide.
L
So
what
is
a
closed
record
versus
an
open
record?
Because
there
are
opportunities
where
you
could
do
an
open
record
hearing,
although
we
have
yet
to
recommend
it
and
I'm,
not
sure
when
we
would
so
once
again
in
a
closed
record,
there's
no
new
evidence.
L
We
only
look
at
the
facts
that
were
presented
to
the
hearing
officer
and
when
you
start
doing
appeals
hearings,
you
will
find.
Sometimes.
This
is
a
little
challenging
because
the
parties
do
like
to
present
new
information
to
you
and
your
job
is
really
to
look
at
the
record.
And
if
you
really
think
that
there
is
new
information,
you
do
have
an
opportunity
to
remand
the
the
decision
back
to
the
hearing
officer.
But
generally,
we
are
not
weighing
that
new
information
at
the
appeal
hearing
next
slide.
L
So
if
we
were
to
do
a
de
novo
hearing,
meaning
an
open
record,
that
would
essentially
be
that
we
are
starting
over
and
in
conducting
the
hearing
the
same
way
that
the
hearing
officer
did
so
we
would
take
testimony
from
the
witnesses
we
would
review
the
evidence.
You
know
be
very
similar
to
the
initial
petition
hearing
generally,
it
would
be
time
consuming
and
unless
we
really
felt
like
there
was
evidence
that
it
had
not
been
disclosed.
I
doubt
that
there
would
be
a
situation
that
we
would
suggest
that
you
do
that
next
slide.
L
So,
once
again,
if
there
are
issues
that
haven't
been
disclosed
issues
that
come
up
at
the
appeal
hearing
that
are
not
part
of
the
record,
the
appropriate
action
is
to
remand
and
I'm
remand.
L
What's
known
as
a
quasi-judicial
manner,
so
when
you
are
adopting
regulations,
you
were
making
legislative
decisions
and
there's
one
standard
for
review
of
that
when
you
were
acting
on
an
appeal,
you
were
effectively
acting
as
the
judge
in
this
case,
and
so
we'll
go
over
your
role
there.
But
you
need
to
keep
that
in
mind,
because
this
is
where
due
process
comes
in.
We
are
responsible
for
ensuring
that
the
parties
are
given
their
due
process
and
that
the
hearing
is
fair.
L
If
your
decision
gets
appealed,
a
judge
is
going
to
look
at
that
hearing
officer's
record
and
whatever
came
in
as
part
of
that
record,
but
a
judge
is
also
going
to
look
at
the
procedures
at
the
rental
housing
Committee.
In
terms
of
determining
the
decision,
the
judge
generally
will
not
reopen
the
record,
but
we'll
look
to
see
whether
there
are
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
to
support
the
decision.
I
L
L
We
also
generally
suggest
that
you
not
review
our
hearing
officer
decisions
and
tell
either
the
appeal
is
concluded
if
there
is
an
appeal
or
if
there's
no
appeal
until
the
time
for
appeal
has
elapsed,
which
once
again
is
10
days,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
element
of
bias
that
is
ever
introduced
into
this
decision.
So
we
want
you
to
come
into
this
decision
with
an
open
mind.
L
So,
just
by
way
of
example,
if
a
hearing
officer
issues
a
decision,
it
is
possible
that
a
party
to
that
decision
might
contact
one
of
you
to
say,
I'm
really
unhappy
about
this
decision.
How
could
they
make
this
decision?
Your
job
is
to
say:
I
can't
really
talk
to
you
about
that
until
this
is
final,
so
that
we're
not
introducing
that
element
of
bias
next
slide.
L
We
are
not
addressing
issues
that
aren't
raised
and
many
of
our
decisions
address
multiple
issues,
but
the
parties
often
only
appeal
a
subset
of
those
issues,
so
you
may
review
a
decision
when
it
comes
up
to
you
on
appeal
and
say:
well:
I,
don't
really
agree
with
the
hearing
officer
on
this
part
of
the
decision,
but
if
nobody
appealed
it
that
part
of
the
decision
is
final,
and
that
is
not
part
of
our
discussion.
L
So
we
just
gave
an
example
here
if
we
get
a
landlord
petition
and
we
have
both
a
Vega
adjustment,
meaning
a
base
year
adjustment
to
the
rent
and
a
rent
increase
for
fair
return,
but
nobody
appeals
the
Vega
adjustment.
Then
we
are
not
going
to
discuss
that
on
appeal,
whether
you
agree
with
it
or
not.
That
decision
is
done
so,
and
we
in
our
tentatives
really
try
to
make
clear
what
the
decisions
are
that
are
before
you
next
slide.
L
So
in
our
tentative
decisions
that
we
provide
to
you,
we
always
try
to
walk
through
each
of
the
for
each
decision.
What
we're
recommending,
just
so
that
it's
clear
and
once
again
that
we
have
a
clear
record
next
slide.
L
So
when
you
are
looking
at
a
decision,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
evidence
backing
it
up,
so
you
will,
as
part
of
the
appeal,
be
given
access
to
the
record.
L
If
you
want
to
check
to
see
if
there's
evidence,
you
will
have
that
opportunity
to
do
so.
If
there
isn't
evidence
to
support
it,
then
the
decision
could
be
considered
to
be
arbitrary.
L
So
that's
why
we're
always
trying
to
link
the
decision
to
the
evidence
and
I
appreciated
the
comment
from
the
public
speaker
that
the
hearing
officers
do
a
very
good
job.
Your
hearing
officers
do
a
very
good
job
of
linking
their
decisions
to
the
evidence
in
the
record,
so
it
makes
our
job
easier
and
it
makes
your
job
easier
that
they
do
that
next
slide.
L
So
substantial
evidence
should
be
based
on
findings
and
we've.
Just
given
you
some
quotes
from
one
of
the
cases
that's
clearest
on
this
whole
topic,
so
we
expect
to
bridge
the
analytical
gap
between
the
evidence
and
the
decision.
L
L
So
your
appeals
hearings
are
conducted
in
accordance
with
the
brown
act.
These
are
public
meetings,
so
we
have
to
follow
all
of
those
procedures
and
if
you
look
in
your
regulations,
we
have
very
specific
procedures
with
regard
to
taking
public
comment
on
an
appeal,
but
we
also
have
specific
timelines
for
the
appellant
and
the
respondent
and
for
you,
the
rental
housing
committee,
to
ask
questions
and
get
the
information
that
you're
looking
for.
L
So
once
again,
we
are
not
looking
for
new
facts
generally.
Hopefully
all
the
facts
have
already
been
presented.
We're
generally
not
looking
to
argue
about
the
issues,
but
we
can
have
a
disagreement.
L
We
do
try
to
avoid
what
we
call
the
red
herring
issues,
which
is
why
we
have
this
slide
issues
that
are
irrelevant
to
the
decision,
and
you
know
these
issues
come
up.
The
examples
we've
given
you
is
how
much
a
tenant
earns
is
irrelevant
to
a
fair
return
petition.
Market
rent
is
often
not
relevant
to
these
petitions,
so
we
do
try
to
stick
with
what
is
relevant
and
once
again
we
are
here
to
guide
you
on
this
next
slide.
L
So
just
a
recap
of
these
that
we
are
looking
for
No
Ex
party
contact
and
we
will
ask
you
at
the
beginning
of
every
hearing.
If
there
has
been
any
exp
party
contact
just
so
we
know
you
only
will
be
deciding
those
issues
raised
by
the
parties.
L
Substantial
evidence,
we're
going
to
repeat
that
a
lot
to
you
and
that
we
really
need
a
logical
analysis
for
our
decision
slide
and
that's
the
end
of
the
presentation,
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
I
think
this
will
all
become
clearer.
When
you
actually
hear
an
appeal-
and
you
will
get
that
opportunity
sooner
than
we
thought.
F
G
L
That's
a
good
question,
so,
yes,
staff
will
make
a
recommendation
to
date.
We
have
always
recommended
a
closed
hearing
as
part
of
that
closed
hearing.
We
do
sometimes
recommend
a
remand
to
obtain
more
evidence.
If
we
are
going
to
make
a
recommendation
on
a
closed
or
an
open
hearing,
we
will
make
that
at
the
beginning
of
your
hearing.
L
If
you
were
to
decide
differently
from
a
recommendation,
we
most
likely
would
have
to
schedule
a
new
date.
So
if
we
said
we
think
a
closed
hearing
is
the
appropriate
action
and
the
rental
housing
committee
said
no,
we
want
an
open
hearing.
We
would
then
have
to
give
the
parties
an
opportunity
because
they
will
not
come
prepared
with.
G
G
And
one
follow-up
question:
if
I
could
so
you
said
that
it's
governed
under
the
brown
act.
I
G
So
we
that.
G
L
L
L
L
A
And
then,
in
terms
of
the
information
that's
emailed
to
the
committee,
is
that
does
that
go
beyond?
Does
that
conclude
pictures
and
things
beyond
what
is
posted
in
the
public
agenda?
Yes,.
L
You
get
the
entire
record,
so
you
will
get
a
link
to
all
of
the
documents
that
will
include
a
tape
of
the
hearing
if
you
so
desire
to
watch
it,
but
it
will
include
the
petition.
It
includes
whatever
documents
the
parties
have
submitted,
so
some
of
it
is
redacted
for
to
remove
personal,
identifying
information.
That's
private,
okay,.
L
L
We
don't
have
any
regulations
about
the
Precedence
of
decisions,
but
hearing
officers
do
sometimes
look
at
other
decisions,
so
hopefully
our
decisions
are
all
consistent.
Our
hearing
officers
should
be
applying
either
the
csfra
or
the
mhrso
and
those
regulations.
There
can
be
differing
interpretations,
but
we
do
aim
for
consistency.
A
A
Hands-Ons,
okay,
so
this
was
informational
and
we're
ready
to
keep
moving.
A
A
K
Thank
you,
chair
Keating
and
members
of
the
Randall
housing
committee.
Today,
we're
asking
you
to
authorize
the
program
at
your
or
the
designee
to
execute
an
agreement
with
gold
foreign
for
Legal,
Services
related
to
the
csfra,
as
approved
in
the
budget
earlier
in
this
meeting,
for
an
amount
not
to
exceed
175
000
and
to
represent
the
rhc
and
the
City
of
Mountain
View
and
litigation
related
to
the
csfra
for
an
amount
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
amount
not
to
exceed
225
000
dollars.
K
And
we
similarly
ask
authorization
from
the
rental
housing
committee
to
have
a
program,
manager
or
designee
sign
a
similar
agreement
with
Goldfarb
and
Lipman
for
mhrso
legal
and
Litigation
Services
legal
services
not
to
exceed
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
litigation
services
not
to
exceed
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
amount
not
to
exceed
eighty
thousand
dollars.
K
Since
2017-18
Goldfarb
has
provided
subject
matter,
legal
expertise,
services
for
the
rental
housing
Committee
in
November,
26
2018,
an
RFP
process
was
held
and
the
rental
housing
committee
selected
gold
for
up
Litman
to
continue
to
provide
these
legal
services
for
the
csfra
and
also
retained
Goldfarb
for
litigation
issues.
K
So
the
csfra
services
are
legal
services
from
175,
000
and
Litigation
Services
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
an
amount
not
to
exceed
225
000
and
from
the
mhr,
so
legal
services
not
to
exceed
30
000
and
the
negation
services
not
to
exceed
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
an
amount
not
to
exceed
eighty
thousand
dollars
and
Rental
housing
committee
policies
demand
authorization
for
any
contracts
with
third-party
providers
over
fifty
thousand
dollars.
That's
why
we're
asking
you
express
authorization.
K
A
Okay,
so
then
we're
ready
to
move
forward
with
this
committee
deliberations
and
feedback.
Would
any
member
of
the
committee
like
to
propose
a
motion:
Committee
Member
Madison.
F
E
A
K
Thank
you
again
we're
going
to
do
the
same
exercise
for
project
Sentinel
contract
again,
because
the
total
amount
exceeds
the
fifty
thousand
dollars,
as
stipulated
in
rental
housing
committee
policies,
who
are
asking
your
Express
approval
to
authorize
the
program
manager
to
sign
contract
or
other
designee
to
sign
an
agreement
with
project
Sentinel
for
services
in
the
coming
fiscal
year.
K
So
for
csfra,
a
total
of
not
to
exceed
120
000
and
for
the
mhrso
for
a
total
amount
not
to
exceed
thirty
thousand
dollars
again.
Project
Sentinel
has
provided
administrative
and
hearing
process
Services
since
the
start
of
this
program
in
November
2018,
an
RFP
process
was
also
initiated
and
the
rental
housing
committee
selected
project
Sentinel
to
continue
to
provide
services
for
the
csfre
and
also
started
doing
these
services
for
the
mhrso.
K
Again
for
project
Sentinel
services
for
the
csfra,
it
would
be
administrative
support
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
facilitators
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
and
hearing
officers
up
to
one
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
the
next
slide
shows
the
amateurs
o
Services
administrative
support,
a
thousand
facilitators,
4
000
and
for
hearing
officers.
Twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
K
So
this
is
the
recommendation
once
again
to
authorize
the
program
manager
to
sign
these
contracts
with
project
Sentinel
for
the
csfre
and
for
the
mhr.
So.
A
H
A
A
D
A
Okay,
we're
on
to
item
8.6,
updated
rental
housing
committee
work
plan
for
calendar
year.
2023.
public
comment
will
occur
after
the
presentation
item
and
committee
questions
ready
for
the
presentation.
Thank.
K
You,
yes,
we
bring
to
an
update
of
the
rental
housing
committee
work
plan
for
calendar
2023
for
your
review,
since
this
was
earlier
adopted
in
October
November
of
2022,
but
a
lot
of
things
and
timelines
have
shifted.
So
we
would
like
to
bring
that
back
for
your
review.
K
In
this
is
Jeffrey
and
also
the
mhrso,
there
are
stipulations
that
charge
the
rental
housing
committee
with
a
number
of
tasks,
including
establishing
rules
and
regulations
for
the
administration
of
the
programs.
Determining
annual
adjustments
of
rent,
approving
the
annual
budgets
and
Rental
housing
and
space
fees
and
hearing
appeals
in
the
petition
process.
K
So
this
work
plan
is
an
outline
of
these
tasks,
overviews
and
issues
that
the
rental
housing
committee
may
want
to
bring
forward
each
year
for
discussion,
consideration
and
potential
adoption
to
further
Implement
and
administer
the
csfra
and
the
mhrso,
and
this
work
plan
is
kind
of
a
blueprint
to
guide
the
work
of
the
rental
housing
committee
and
can
be
adjusted
throughout
the
year.
If
the
rental
housing
committee
so
desires.
K
So
because
of
the
turnover
of
the
rental
housing
committee
members,
certain
agenda
items
were
postponed
until
the
members
were
appointed
and
we
had
to
introduce
some
agenda
items
to
introduce
the
committee
to
rental
housing
committee
procedures
and
goals.
So
we
now
see
guidance
to
ensure
an
updated
work
plan
to
adequately
address
the
policy
goals
of
the
rental
housing
committee
of
node
is
that
the
study
sessions
that
were
planned
in
the
work
plan
regarding
charging
of
utilities
and
Reps
were
temporarily
deferred
for
these
meetings.
K
So
the
updated
work
plan
was
an
attachment
to
the
memo
and
I'm
showing
here
the
dates
from
August
onwards,
since
we've
already
passed
the
first
six
months
of
the
year-
and
this
is
a
proposal
on
how
to
reschedule
previously
delayed
issues.
But
we're
open
to
any
suggestions
that
the
rental
housing
committee
may
want
to
make.
G
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
know:
I
mean
it
looks
like
the
big
item.
That's
coming
for
the
second
half
of
this
year
is
rubs
and
I
noticed,
there's
two
study
sessions
and
then
I
guess
a
hearing
on
it
after
that
and
I.
Think
I.
Remember
right
that,
like
for
an
important
issue
like
that
like
when
we
did
run
concessions,
there
were
also
two
study
sessions
and
so
I'm
just
wondering.
Is
there
a
sense
of
like
what
gets
covered
in
the
first
one
and
what
gets
covered
in
the.
K
Second,
one
yeah,
so
in
the
first
one
we
would
like
to
give
the
new
rental
housing
committee
an
overview
of
what
has
been
discussed
so
far,
so
a
background
of
what
is
the
issue,
and
why
are
we
bringing
that
to
the
rental
housing
committee?
We
also
would
like
to
then
give
an
overview
of
the
stakeholder
meetings
that
have
been
held,
so
you
are
up
to
par
with
what
has
all
been
discussed
and
what
has
transpired
in
the
stakeholder
meetings.
Then
we
would
like
to
hear
your
input
and
feedback
on
these
issues.
K
So
then,
in
the
second
study
session,
we
can
further
detail
the
issues
that
you
have
brought
forward
or
that
you
would
like
to
see
researched
further
and
then,
depending
on
that
study
session.
We
can
then,
if
requested
by
the
rental
housing
committee,
prepare
maybe
some
draft
regulations,
if
so
requested
that
we
can
bring
back
in
the
hearing.
E
K
Were
set
by
the
rental
housing
committee
last
year,
it,
the
dates,
could
have
varied
because
of
an
inability
of
a
certain
member
not
to
attend
another
date.
So
I'm,
not
remembering
exactly
why
that
date
was
changed,
but
yeah.
E
E
K
Yes,
so
that
has
come
up
in
in
several
discussions
that
staff
has
heard
and
also
seen
in
the
community.
We
have
not
researched
that
in
depth.
So
when
you
look
at
other
jurisdictions
that
have
anti-harassment
policies,
that
in
general
would
refer
to
the
prohibition
of
harassment
of
tenants
in
a
non-legal
way.
E
Okay
and
just
to
clarify
100
staff,
it
is
not
possible
with
to
do
two
regulations
at
once,
like
we
can't
do
rubs
and
and
harassment
in
the
next
three
months.
E
K
A
Not
seeing
other
comments,
oh
and
so
we're
on
the
second
questions,
so
we're
on
the
second,
so
we
have
two
slides
for
this
for
the
two
months,
since
this
is
the
second
one.
K
A
A
K
This
item
is
for
the
work
plan
for
this
year,
but
it
you
can
always
shoot
me
an
email
about
any
other
issue
that
you
would
like
to
further
explore.
Okay,.
E
K
No,
we
could
definitely
add
something
to
this
work
plan.
I
did
not
want
to
introduce
new
things
for
me,
I
only.
My
goal
was
to
update
the
plan
with
missed
issues
from
previous
meetings,
but
there's
definitely
some
space
to
add
issues,
for
instance,
what
we
discussed
today
with
regards
to
regulations
for
subpoenas
that
just
came
up
in
the
past
couple
of
months,
so
that
was
not
officially
on
the
work
plan,
but
we
still
wanted
to
introduce
that
and
see
what
the
rental
housing
committee
would
like
to
do
with
that.
K
H
K
K
Yes,
the
rental
housing
committee
can
always
decide
to
skip
a
meeting
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
for
August
we
already
have
two
appeals,
most
likely.
K
Yes,
I
would
like
to
hear
if
you
would
like
to
add
something
to
this
work
plan
or
not,
so
we
can
add
it
and
then.
Secondly,
if
you
would
like
to
organize
a
retreat,
maybe
in
August
September
October,
usually
what
committees
do
is
they
pick
a
different
date?
Maybe
a
Saturday
morning
or
afternoon
we'll
organize
it
somewhere
else
to
kind
of
give
some
training
and
some
team
building
activities
for
the
rental
housing
committee.
K
So
one
evening
we
had
a
joint
meeting
with
the
Richmond
program
to
and
and
exchanged
information
on
where
we
were
with
the
program
the
Richmond
adopted
rent
stabilization
at
the
same
time
that
we
did
so.
It
was
really
interesting
to
see
where
each
program
was
going
and
what
path
they
were
taking.
K
We
had
another
Retreat
that
was
actually
during
a
regular
meeting
where
we
did
some
team
building
exercises,
so
we
hired
a
consultant
that
would
call
Members
individually
and
ask
them
some
cert
some
questions
to
kind
of
see
where
the
ultimate
goals
of
each
of
the
members
and
how
they
were
aligning
with
each
other.
So
that
was
another
Retreat.
That's
the
two
we
had
so
far.
A
F
Thank
you,
chair
two
items,
so
the
first
point
is
I
totally
agree
with
having
a
retreat.
I
think
that
would
be
great
for
us,
and
the
second
point
is
that
the
little
hesitant
at
this
point
to
add
anything
to
our
current
work
plan,
especially
given
the
the
anticipated
depth
of
rubs
and
I.
Think
it's
the
goal
of
the
committee
as
a
whole
to
have
this
addressed
primarily
in
in
a
timely
fashion.
So
I
say
that
we
should
just
proceed
the
course
with
rubs,
and
then
we
can
always
revisit.
G
Yeah
I
want
to
Echo
that
I
mean
I
I,
really,
don't
think
we
should
be
adding
new
items
to
the
work
plan.
Right
now,
I
mean
this
is
I.
G
Will
be
a
challenging
one
for
all
of
us
kind
of
a
baptism,
Under,
Fire
and.
I
F
G
I'll
be
happy
when
we
get
through
that
successfully,
because
I
know
we
will
I
will
say
that
I
also
support
a
retreat,
because
you
know
when
I
was
on
the
EPC.
We
had
several
of
these
and
I
found
them
to
be
very
helpful
and,
in
particular,
I
very
much
want
to
hear
what
other
people
on
the
committee
think
about.
G
You
know
their
main
reasons
for
wanting
to
serve
in
the
committee
and
and
what
they
want
to
accomplish
and
what
they
view
as
success
so
because
I
think
knowing
where
everybody's
coming
from
we
can
all
help
each
other
in
achieving
our
goals.
So
yeah
there's
a
couple
other
issues,
maybe
you
know
I
when
this
whole
discussion
came
up
about.
You
know
issues
for
the
future,
but
you
know
maybe
in
terms
of
like.
G
One
was
about.
F
G
Know
as
we
tried
to
move
to
more
climate
friendly
Utilities
in
particularly
replacing
gas
with
electric,
you
know
how
that
might
impact
people
in
terms
of
the
costs
of
that
and
how
they
would
be
shared.
So.
H
I
would
like
go.
I
would
like
to
Echo
what
the
community
the
committee
committee
members
have
been
saying.
I
just
would
like
to
just
re-address
that
I
think
it
would
be
a
very
interesting
Retreat
to
have
other
cities
who
are
actually
doing
who
have
this
type
of
the
the
this
type
of
committees,
the
rhcs,
because
I
think
there's
still
some
in
the
Bay
Area
that
don't
have
any
so
I
think
asses
I,
don't
know.
H
I've
I
have
found
that
the
rental
housing
committee
has
definitely
been
overall,
a
good
thing
for
a
Mountain
View
and
for
other
cities.
They
have
that
have
it
so
I
would
like
to
here
what
has
been
the
experience
of
the
other
rhcs
and
how
are
they
promoting
it
or
not?
Promoting
it.
Who
knows.
E
So
yes,
I
would
I
would
probably
won't
do
a
straw
poll
because
it
doesn't
seem
it
would
work.
It
would
have
been
maybe
to
press
forward
on
at
your
harassment
policy
earlier
in
December,
given
that
December
is
almost
so
empty,
we
could
cancel
the
meeting
with
no
issue
just
because
it's
just
an
arbitrary
change
in
calendar
year.
That's
the
main
thing
I
understand.
We
could
probably
visit
this
in
November,
whether
we
want
to
agenda
as
it
then,
but
that
that
is
a
thing
that
has
been
pressing.
E
My
mind
is
what
members
of
the
community
have
been
dealing
with
regarding
maybe
a
lower
than
expected
amount
of
petitions.
As
for
the
retreat,
I
am
neutral
on
having
a
retreat.
I
agree,
it'll,
be
good
to
figure
out
what
other
juristics
are
doing.
I'm,
particularly
interested
in
how
our
neighbors
direct
neighbor
to
the
Northeast
Palo
Alto
is
dealing
with
their
things,
but
I'm
fine,
with
whatever
the
rest
of
the
community,
is
playing
with.
A
G
G
We
did
have
a
group
of
people
from
Stanford
come
in,
wants
to
just
give
some
informational
presentation
and
also
to
help
I,
guess
I
would
say
moderate
the
discussion
on
on
some
sensitive
issues.
So
I
mean
that
was
one
thing
that
we
did
as
part
of
things.
Another
kind
of
retreat
that
we
did
was
we
got
together
at
the
ringsdorf
house
and
just
you
know,
I
mean
it
was
a
less
formal
setting,
but
I
mean
it.
G
It
had
both
informational
presentations
and
and
some
discussions
among
the
people
who
were
on
the
committee
and
then
a
third
type
of
retreat
that
we
did
was
like
over
an
extended
dinner.
G
You
know
with
respect
to
you
know
things
that
they'd
seen
happen
on
the
commission.
You
know
over
the
years
they've
been
on
it
and
you
know
to
get
ideas
and
some
brainstorming
about
how
we
felt
about
the
state
of
development
in
the
city
and
where
we
wanted
to
see
things
evolve.
So
there's
been
a
variety.
K
G
Yeah
I'll
just
add
one
comment:
I
mean
at
the
EPC,
their
Retreats
were
actually,
since
they
were
public
meetings,
other
people
could
come
and
speak
at
them.
So
just
I
would
imagine
this
would
be
the
same
kind
of
thing.
It
didn't
happen
at
every
case,
but
sometimes
there
are
people
who
felt
particularly
close
to
us
that
wanted
to
have
something
to
say
about
the
overall
goals
of
the
commission
and
I
can
imagine
that
could
happen
here
too.
So.
A
I
also
wonder
you
know
about
Outreach
to
renters
and
for
the
retreat
and
I
don't
know.
Part
of
me
wonders
all
the
time.
Where
is
the
next
crop
of
rental
housing
committee
members
going
to
come
from
so
yeah
and
they're?
Not
here
tonight.
C
I
also
support
having
a
retreat
I
think
it
could
be
fun.
I'm
thinking,
hang
gliding
yeah,
there's
something
active
where
we
could
all
Bond,
hopefully
not
over
trauma,
but
yeah
I.
Think
that,
having
a
focus
time
where
we
get
to
know
each
other
and
you
have
a
more
free
form,
discussion
would
be
great
and
I
also
supported
having
trying
to
tie
in
other
jurisdictions
or
other
groups
that
could
contribute
perspective
that
we
don't
have.
C
Oh
and
to
Committee,
Member
Moz,
yeah
I
think
that
an
anti-harassment
policy
is
something
that
to
prioritize.
If
we
have
time
and
bandwidth.
K
So
what
about
a
date
for
The
Retreat
I
was
looking,
maybe
I'm
just
throwing
out
some
dates
here,
for
you
guys
to
check
on
a
Saturday,
September,
30
Maybe.
K
A
You
there
there's
no
in-person
audience
tonight
at
the
at
this
time.
Are
there
any
raised
hands.
L
There
is
one
litigation
matter
that
has
been
has
reached
a
final
decision
that
is
Redwood
Villa
Inc
versus
the
city
of
Mountain
View
and
the
Mountain
View
rental
housing
committee.
This
was
a
case
that
involved
a
property
owner
of
a
somewhat
unique
property
in
Mountain
View,
a
senior
facility
that
provided
Services
as
well
as
housing
that
challenge
the
application
of
the
csfra
to
their
property.
L
We
had
a
trial
last
year
and
the
rental
housing
committee
was
successful
in
that
trial,
so
the
court
found
in
our
favor
the
property
owner,
repealed
the
decision,
so
it
had
been
up
on
appeal
and
the
property
owner
recently
dismissed
their
appeals.
So
the
decision
is
final
and
they
have
paid
all
of
their
fees.
L
B
Okay,
perfect,
so
I'll
start
with
the
housing
and
eviction
help
center.
We
do
hold
these
every
first
and
third
Thursday
at
the
Mountain
View
Public
Library.
We
are
in
the
second
floor
program
room,
and
this
is
a
space
where
both
tenants
and
landlords
or
any
Community
member
really
can
come
and
learn
about
different
run.
Stabilization
related
programs.
B
We
help
people
also
apply
for
affordable
housing
and
check
applications
for
any
assistance
they
may
have
applied,
for
we
also
have
eviction
help,
so
we
can
help
a
landlord
if
they're
planning
to
serve
any
termination
notices
or
any
tenants
who
may
have
received
one.
We
also
have
legal
resources
on
site
where
people
can
talk
to
a
legal
representative
from
Community
Legal
Services
of
East
Palo
Alto,
and
then
we
also
have
just
general
information
about
other
resources
such
as
food
distribution
or
financial
assistance
and
mediation
So.
B
Currently,
The
Help
Center
is
held
from
one
to
five
PM,
however,
starting
in
July
we
are
having
new
hours
and
so
we're
moving
to
the
evening
from
6
to
8
p.m,
and
we're
really
hoping
to
capture
sort
of
people
in
there
after
work
hours.
Instead
of
you
know,
in
the
middle
of
the
day
when,
when
a
lot
of
people
are
at
work,
that
time
worked
really
well
when
people
were
applying
for
covid
rent
relief.
B
But
now,
since
we're,
you
know,
moved
a
little
bit
past
that
we're
hoping
to
capture
more
people
after
work
hours,
so
we'll
still
be
the
first
and
third
Thursday
in
the
library
in
the
second
floor
program
room
but
will
be
from
6
to
8
pm
and
then
of
course,
people
can
join
virtually
as
well,
so
it
will
be
hybrid
and
then
we
have
the
link
there.
Mountainview.Gov
housing
help
clinics
and
then,
as
far
as
our
upcoming
workshops,
we
will
still
continue
to
be
doing
our
Virtual
Office
hours.
B
We
do
those
every
Tuesday
from
10
a.m
to
noon,
and
that
is
just
open
topic.
So
anyone
who
has
a
question
can
come
in
and
someone
from
the
staff
will
assist
them
and
then
our
next
Workshop,
that's
scheduled
is
at
The
Help
Center.
So
it's
June
15th!
That's
this
Thursday
at
four
o'clock
and
we'll
be
talking
about
tenant
protections
as
far
as
rent
increases
go
and
again
that
is
hybrids.
That
will
be
in
person
and
also
online
any
questions
or
comments.
H
I
just
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
the
wonderful
job
that
they
do
and
for,
of
course,
changing
the
hours
because,
yes,
I
know,
this
is
an
imposition
on
you,
a
staff,
because
you
know
it
is
later
so.
We
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
commitment
and
the
hard
work
that
you
put
into
everything
too.
I
want
to
also
congratulate
the
people
involved
in
the
case
that
we
were.
We
were
successful
in
so
I
think
it's
important
to
mention
and
thank
all
of
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
A
K
K
We
had
about
500
people
coming
through
that
were
over
16
agencies
representing
themselves,
so
people
could
get
a
good
idea
of
what
type
of
help
and
support
is
out
there,
and
so
we're
gonna
plan
to
make
that
an
annual
event
also
wanted
to
give
you
a
blurb
that
I
was
asked
to
share
with
you
guys,
and
that
is
an
electrification
pilot
program
that
is
going
to
be
initiated
by
the
city
and
City
staff
will
be
seeking
feedback
from
local
multi-family
Property
Owners
of
this
program.
K
Design
are
invited
to
provide
feedback,
and
we
will
be
reaching
out
later
in
the
summer
to
send
this
opportunity
to
all
our
csfra
covered
Property
Owners,
because
I
think
we
would
like
to
see
if
the
csfra
covered
properties
want
to
benefit
from
this
program
with
the
rebates
and
the
help
available.
So
that's
coming
up
in
a
couple
of
months.
F
Well
before
he
goes
to
the
next
agenda,
I
just
want
to
make
a
quick
announcement,
as
many
people
are
probably
aware.
Caltrain
is
running
tests
for
the
electric
locomotives.
F
H
L
Yes,
so
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
the
rental
housing
committee
met
in
closed
session
to
discuss
one
matter
of
litigation:
enlightened
Investments,
Inc
versus
the
city
of
Mountain,
View
rental
housing
committee
and
the
City
of
Mountain
View.
No
action
was
taken
on
that
item.