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From YouTube: March 1, 2023 Regular Meeting of the City of Mountain View Environmental Planning Commission
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Live Teleconference of the Regular Meeting of the City of Mountain View Environmental Planning Commission of March 1, 2023.
A
All
right
good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
environmental
Planning
Commission
meeting
of
March
1st
2023.
I
call
the
meeting
to
order.
It
is
seven
o'clock
P.M
for
those
joining
us
in
person.
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B
A
A
Do
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No
I
see
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F
G
A
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you
very
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A
Okay,
great
thank
you.
So
then
we
will
move
on
to
new
business
item
5.1
the
2022
annual
progress
report
2015
to
2023
housing
element.
We'll
first
have
a
staff
presentation.
Then
questions
by
EPC,
followed
by
the
public
comment
at
the
closure
of
public
comment.
The
commission
will
then
deliberate
and
take
action.
Staff
presentation
will
be
given
by
Ellen
Yao
planner.
Can
you
please
maybe
again.
D
H
A
good
evening
Commissioners,
thank
you
Cherian,
so
tonight
I
have
the
item
for
the
2022
housing
element
annual
progress
report.
H
All
right
so
tonight
we'll
be
going
over
the
annual
progress
report
for
the
Year
2022..
This
is
the
last
year
of
the
fifth
cycle.
Housing
element,
progress
report,
and
so
the
housing
element
is
a
state
mandated
chapter
of
the
general
plan,
and
the
purpose
of
the
annual
reporting
is
to
report
to
our
state
agency,
the
hcd
and
to
report
on
our
building
permit
activity
specifically
permits
that
are
issued.
H
This
is
also
a
way
for
us
to
track
our
policy
and
program
implementation.
Every
year.
H
As
part
of
that
progress
report,
we
report
on
the
Regional
Housing
needs
allocation
and
the
percentage
of
units
that
we
are
building
specifically
on
building
permit
issued
in
the
report
in
the
staff
report
and
in
the
exhibits
the
table
highlights
several
progress
for
each
project.
We
have
entitlements,
approved,
building
permits
issued
and
final
occupancy
certified
specifically
for
meeting
the
Regional
Housing
needs
assessment.
H
H
This
table
shows
the
current
progress
meeting
the
Reno
goal.
This
covers
2015
to
2022.
H
In
the
last
column,
you
can
see
the
percentage
of
our
progress
and
you
can
see
that
the
city
far
exceeds
the
requirement
for
the
above
moderate
units,
but
are
very
low
and
are
moderate,
are
a
little
behind
overall,
excluding
the
excess
in
above
moderate
we're
currently
around
58
percent
of
our
overall
Arena
back
in
2019,
the
state
passed
SB
35.
That
requirement
allows
requires
jurisdictions
to
approve
projects
ministerially
if
they
are
not
able
to
make
progress
on
their
renal
goals
for
very
low
and
low.
This
means,
usually
they
track
it
mid-cycle.
H
H
The
next
couple,
slides
I,
just
want
to
highlight
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
have
been
approved.
These
are
specifically
the
ones
that
are
approved
in
2022.
We
have
lot
12.
out
of
that.
We
have
80
very
low
units
and
39
low
units
for
the
334
San
Antonio
Road
project
that
was
approved
at
near
the
end
of
last
year.
There's
a
total
of
62
units
and
there's
10
low
units
as
part
of
that
development
project.
H
H
This
is
the
last
slide
going
over
some
of
these
projects,
their
730
Central,
Avenue,
870,
East,
El,
Camino
and
1057
El
Monte
Avenue,
and
then
this
is
coming
up
on
a
couple
last
slides
that
I
have
this
one
highlights
the
funding
that
we
have
for
housing.
We
know
that
a
lot
of
the
projects
we
have
in
the
city.
H
You
know
it's
really
hard
to
meet
some
of
the
lower
Target
units,
the
lower
income
targets
and
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
funding.
The
city
has
various
sources
that
we
provide
for
development
projects
that
come
in
specifically,
we
have
the
notice
of
funding
availability
known
as
a
nofa,
and
this
is
a
significant
portion
of
the
funds
the
city
provides
for
developers
and
you
can
see
on
the
slide.
H
It
does
signify
some
of
the
major
projects
that
you
guys
have
reviewed
or
will
review
1020,
Terra,
Bella,
1265,
Montecito
and
Lot
12,
or
some
of
the
projects
that
have
received
nofa
funding.
There's
also
the
county-wide
measure,
a
funding
that
also
supplements
each
of
those
projects.
I've
mentioned
before,
and
federal
funds
like
cdbg
and
home
funds
have
also
been
used
to
do.
H
So
tonight
it's
for
you
to
receive
the
report
and
to
recommend
the
city
council
to
also
accept
the
report.
It
is
a
state
mandated
housing
element,
annual
progress
report,
we're
required
to
submit
it
by
April
1st.
So
you
know
every
year
around.
This
time
is
when
you
hear
this
presentation
so
we'll
be
presenting
this
to
Council
on
March
28th
and
then
submit
it
to
hcd
soon
after
so
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I
have
Eric
Anderson,
Advanced
planning
manager
here
and
Wayne
Chen
assistant
director
of
the
Community
Development
online.
J
Just
a
kind
of
a
general
question:
it's
two-part
when.
D
J
K
Thank
you,
commissioner
Eric
Anderson
Advanced
planning
manager.
So,
yes,
there
are
implications
of
not
completing
programs
in
every
cycle.
There
are
implications
of
not
making
progress
on
programs
the
where
you
know
the.
K
Obviously,
the
the
state
has
taken
a
much
greater
role
in
actually
enforcing
that
on
in
in
jurisdictions
that
aren't
making
progress
and
so
generally,
what
ends
up
happening
or
what
has
happened
in
over
the
previous
Cycles
is
that
you
know
we
identify
these
things
that
we're
doing
that
are
related
to
the
program
and
there's
some.
How
do
you
say?
D
K
Flexibility
as
to
how
well
those
things
are
related
to
the
program,
I
think
in
the
next
eight
years,
we
will
see
how
much
discretion
of
flexibility
there
is.
This
is
a
whole
new
world
that
we're
entering
into
with
this
new
housing
element
cycle
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
there
are
a
lot
of
other
cities,
experiences
that
we
can
look
to
other
than
maybe
some
really
really
bad
actors
that
that
the
state
is
is
enforcing
against
right
now,.
D
J
If,
if
we've
not
sorry,
it's
sent
for
the
rest
of
the
commission,
I
sent
about
eight
items
to
staff,
saying
the
answer
isn't
actually
addressing
what
the
action
was
or
it's
incomplete.
So
for
this
cycle
it's
kind
of
a
since
we're
at
the
end,
there's
the
last
one.
It's
kind
of
a
no
big
deal.
It's
we.
K
Oh,
oh,
no,
it
it!
It's
not
no
big
deal
I,
think
you
know
we
thank
you
for
sending
the
questions
and
I
I
think
we
can
have
a
conversation
about
the
ones
that
you
highlighted.
We're
happy
to
discuss
those,
and
certainly
you
know
in
in
further
review
we
we
can
provide
responses
that
are
that.
K
That
kind
of
better
address
your
questions
and
we're
happy
to
discuss
those
right
now
but,
like
I,
said
the
the
the
relationship
to
the
programs
and
the
objectives,
there's
always
a
little
bit
of
discretion
and
flexibility
in
that,
and
so
the
those
items
that
you
brought
up
and
again
we're
happy
to
discuss
them
individually.
We
do
have
responses
that
can
better
address
those
those
those
objectives.
J
M
I'm
happy
to
provide
some
additional
contexts.
M
From
on
high,
that
speaks
hello,
everyone
just
to
add
on
to
what
Eric
was
just
saying
in
terms
of
maybe
providing
a
separate
follow-up
to
to
your
questions.
M
Commissioner
Cranston
is
that
the
the
various
items
that
we
list
in
terms
of
the
progress
that
we've
made
on
various
housing
efforts
do
respond
to
I,
think
that
that
table
has
has
several
columns
and
one
of
the
columns
talks
about
kind
of
the
big
picture
pieces
and
the
second
columns
talks
about
these
very
specific
objectives
that
were
written
up
in
the
housing
element
and
those
that
language
was
provided
and
written
up.
You
know
eight
years
ago
and
we're
not
able
to
change
that
language.
M
That
was
objectives
so
every
year,
even
if
needs
evolve,
that
language
needs
to
stay,
and
so
now,
eight
years
later,
over
the
course
of
the
past
eight
years,
different
situations,
different
needs
and
different
efforts.
Up
that
we've
responded
to,
and
so
we,
the
intent
was
that
the
items
listed
in
those
in
those
rows
were
Were
Meant
to
address
the
the
major
category
for
that
row.
M
But
the
needs
may
have
evolved
a
little
bit
from
the
way
it
got
written
up
in
terms
of
the
objectives,
language
in
the
second
column,
so
I
think
in
our
response
back
to.
M
We
can
provide
a
little
bit
more
context
to
show
how
it
does
seek
to
meet
the
intent
of
the
specific
objective
language,
and
then
we
can
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
it
meets
the
overall
objective.
Given
the
evolving
nature
of
that
item
over
the
last
eight
years.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
constraint
there
in
terms
of
reporting,
because
the
language
is
a
little
bit
older
and
these
have
changed.
But
I
think
we
can
also
provide
some
clarification
in
terms
of
how
the
the
written
information
does.
A
You're,
okay,
with
not
having
all
AIDS
discussed
since
you
guys
know
what
the
eight
questions
are.
Do
you
feel
like
it's
going
to
be
tedious
and
take
a
very
long
time
or
do
you.
K
I
no
I
mean
it's.
What
six
items
from
from
the
from
the
commissioner
and
no
I
I
think
we
were,
we
can
probably
cover
them
in
a
few
bullet
points
in
each
item
is
that
if
that's
something
that
the
commission
wants
to
hear,
we
can
I'm
happy
to
go
over
them.
A
Okay,
I
think
if
it
doesn't
take
up
a
whole
lot
of
time.
J
J
First,
one
was
on
page
28.,
so
all
my
questions
were
in
in
the
section
table
D,
which
is
where
the
action
is
a
like.
A
small
bullet
point
item,
as
Wayne
mentioned,
is
a
little
bit
broader
description
and
then
there's
a
commentary.
The
first
one
was
on
page
28,
the
first
item,
the
it's,
the
the
I'm
going
by
the
second
column
main.
J
So
it
says,
review
residential
development
standards
to
ensure
that
they
have
flexibility
in
the
zoning
code
to
allow
for
Innovative
housing
types
such
as
co-housing,
shared
housing
and
intergenerational
housing,
and
when
I
read
through
the
list
of
things,
they
were
all
things
that
were
done,
but
they
didn't
necessarily
type
I.
I,
didn't
understand
them
as
addressing
that
review
residential
development
standards
for
Innovative
housing
types.
C
I
think
we're
having
some
technical
difficulties
he's
not
receiving
the
okay
audio
input
here,
we'll.
K
K
I
can
I
can
go
through
them.
The
the
I'm
concerned
that
if
the
assistant
community
development
director
can't
hear
us,
then
people
in
the
public
can't
hear
us
correct
listening
in
yeah
and
the
the
audio
is
not
listen,
not
hearing.
So
that's
to
me,
I,
think
kind
of
a
bigger
issue
that
we
might
need
to
address
for
the
public
and
may
might
I
suggest.
We
take
a
five
minute
moment
to
see
if
we
can
resolve
this
and
then
and
then
start
again.
Okay.
L
J
Okay,
so
the
first
one
I
submitted
was
the
first
item
on
page
28
of
the
report,
and
it
was
specifically
I
in
my
mind.
I
wasn't
able
to
tell
the
answer
to
the
review
residential
development
standards
to
ensure
that
there
have
that
there
is
flexibility
in
the
zoning
code
to
allow
for
Innovative
housing
types
such
as
co-housing,
shared
housing
and
intergenerational
housing.
M
Yeah,
thank
you
and
apologies
for
losing
the
audio
here,
so
I
I
think
I
can
hear
just
find
out.
I
can
take
the
first
stab
out
of
response
and
then,
if
Eric
and
Allen
have
anything
to
add
so
on
that
Row
for
Innovative,
Housing
Programs.
The
specific
objective
written
eight
years
ago
was,
as
you
write
a
commissioner
review
standards
Etc
and
over
that
period
of
time.
I
think
in
terms
of
the
opportunities
that
arose
for
us.
M
M
So
certainly
the
LinkedIn
prepayment
was
one
of
the
first
of
its
kind
in
terms
of
having
you
know,
employer
a
partner
with
with
the
local
jurisdiction
in
terms
of
advancing
fees
that
we
can
use
to
invest
in
in
housing.
But
as
we
get
to
2019
that
716
unit
apartment
building
is
the
777
West
Middlefield
a
project.
M
M
The
teacher
and
staff
housing
project
as
part
of
that
760
unit
project,
so
that's
the
first
of
its
kind
in
Mountain
View.
So
we
thought
that
was
an
Innovative
housing
project
and
program.
M
M
Then,
when
we
move
down
to
the
Crestview
hotel,
that
is
also
our
our
first
a
hotel
conversion
project
into
a
permanent
housing
project,
primarily
to
serve
folks
who
have
been
or
are
at
risk
of
homelessness,
and
to
tie
that
last
one
back
in
the
El
Camino
Real
precise
plan
has
flexibility
in
in
in
the
zoning
code
and
in
the
plan
that
allows
for
this
conversion
to
take
place
for
a
hotel
use
to
be
also
converted
into
on
the
same
site,
into
a
permanent
housing
use
and
then
for
the
life
moves
home
key
program.
M
There
was
the
ability
to
use
an
industrial
Zone
site
to
be
able
to
be
used
for
this
interim
housing
project,
so
we
thought
their
Innovative
Housing
Programs
by
themselves
and
then
also
there
were
parts
of
it
that
were
enabled
because
of
the
flexibility
in
the
zoning
code.
So
I
think
that
was
that
was
the
rationale
for
those
projects
and
and
tying
it
to
to
that
row.
J
So
you're,
if
I
understood
what
you
said
earlier,
you're
tying
back
to
the
term
Innovative
housing
programs,
not
necessarily
tying
to
the
action
that
was
underneath
it.
That
was
that
you
say,
may
have
evolved
away
from
it.
I
mean
I
would
read.
Those
are
Innovative
housing
programs,
but
I
you're,
saying
we
don't
and
the
future
have
to
tie
to
the
second
level
bullet
is.
K
I
think
in
this
case
there
there
is
a
typo
here
that
we
do
need
to
correct
with
the
what
goes
to
the
council.
There
are
actually
two
objectives
to
this
housing
element
program:
the
second
one,
which
is
much
more
closely
related
to
these
four
items
that
Mr
Chen
brought
up,
is
conduct
meetings
with
housing
developers
to
review
land
and
Financial
Resources
development
incentives
and
the
city's
entitlement
process
to
permit
alternative
and
Innovative
housing
developments.
L
K
Said,
especially
with
respect
to
El
Camino,
you
know
we
were
intentional
when
we
devised
the
El
Camino
precise
plan
to
really
allow
a
flexible
range
of
residential
types
in
El
Camino.
You
know
we
have
this
far
standard,
that's
a
density
standard.
That
is,
that
is
how
we
allow
a
broad
range
of
unit
types
unit
sizes.
We
don't.
K
We
don't
set
standards
on
like
what
the
units
have
to
be
made
up
of,
or
anything
like
that,
so
really,
Innovative
unit
types
and
development
types
can
happen
on
El,
Camino
and
other
similar,
precise
plant
areas
and
those
were
developed.
During
this,
you.
J
Next,
one
is
that
actually
the
second
one
down
it
says,
units
for
large
hospitals,
and
it
has
specifically
ensure
at
least
25
percent
and
I,
simply
noted,
you
haven't
said,
did
we
hit
the
number?
So
it
seemed
like
a
very
specific,
measurable
objective
and
we
didn't
actually
answer
the
objective
and.
K
Yeah,
so
actually
we
just
did
that
review
all
of
the
projects
that
we've
done
in
the
past,
the
ones
that
are
family
oriented,
they've
all
had
25
three
bedrooms.
We've
made
that
one
yeah.
J
J
K
So
the
These
funds
are
actually
very
small
amount
in
in
this
kind
of
ongoing
use
of
the
the
Redevelopment
agency.
We
use
a
lot
of
Redevelopment
former
Redevelopment
agency
funds
for
affordable
housing.
As
it
says
here,
we've
we
committed
a
million
dollars
to
the
lot
12
project,
the.
K
These
this
is,
you
know
the
majority,
a
very
significant
proportion
of
the
Redevelopment
funds
that
we
use
for
affordable.
You
know
we
use
them
for
affordable
housing.
This
million
dollars
is.
K
Much
more
than
the
20
that
we
that
we
but
you're
right,
we
don't
have
a
denominator
there.
L
K
Can
work
on
generating
that
for
for.
J
The
next
one
was
the
the
last
one
on
that
page.
It's
this,
you
know
priorities
for
affordable
units
and
it
was
to
The
Fairly
detailed
thing
of
what
we
should
do,
but
the
summary
didn't
actually
say
is
it
working?
So
it
was.
We
have
an
action,
but
my
reaction
was
okay.
Did
it
work?
Is
it
are
we
getting
it
done
so
it
was
didn't,
feel
like
it.
Actually,
it
wasn't
a
thumbs
up
or
it
kind
of
thumbs
down
it
was.
We
did
something.
H
Yeah
appreciate
that
comment
and
I
think
it'd
be
best
if
we
pass
it
to
assistant
director
I
think
when
he
originally
talked
about
how
we
are
reporting
for
this.
You
do
have
to
acknowledge
that
this
was
written
almost
a
decade
ago.
So,
as
things
are
progressing
through
the
fifth
cycle,
some
things
that
do
come
up
in
terms
of
new
state
laws
and
legal
implications,
and
so
we
can
provide
a
little
bit
more
clarification
on
that.
So,
if
assistant
director
Wing
chin
can
hop
on.
M
Yes,
thank
you
Ellen
and
yes,
we
don't
have
a
specific
number
for
this
in
part,
because
the
city
does
have
a
live
work.
Preference
umina
always
be
feasible
to
implement
it
or
to
achieve
this
in
the
various
projects.
M
You
know
we
have
it
as
part
of
our
BMR
program.
We
also
have
it
as
part
of
our
our
nofa
program,
where
we
fund,
affordable
housing
developers
and
certainly
in
the
nofa
program.
M
Typically,
a
developer
needs
to
access
multiple
funding
sources,
the
state
and
federal,
and
there
are
state
and
federal,
fair
housing
laws
that
preference,
and
so
we
always
have
the
caveat
when
we
bring
the
items
to
council
for
consideration
that,
while
we
do
have
a
live
work
policy,
it's
implemented
to
the
extent
feasible
and
depending
on
legal
and
funding
considerations
and
in
other
provisions,
and
so
the
there
are
some
things
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
fully
Implement
and
Achieve
that
goal,
because
there
there
are
limitations
on
on
achieving
that.
M
M
J
L
K
Yeah
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
cases
where
Mr
Chen
was
saying
earlier.
You
know
the
the
the
tools
that
we've
have
over
the
last
eight
years
and
the
efficacy
of
those
tools
have
really
changed
towards
the
goals
of
partnering,
with
the
county
really
becoming
much
more
of
a
strong
partnership
in
terms
of
generating
housing,
generating
funding,
managing
housing
and
the
like.
So
that's
really
what
we're
highlighting
there
it
you
know
these.
K
These
programs
are
many
of
them
still
exist
and
and
are
still
offered,
and
we
can
still
direct
to
them
through
the
say,
through
the
tenant
mediation
program
and
the
csfra
program
and
the
like,
but
really
the
value
in
in
the
that
we're
getting
from
our
Partnerships
is
really
in
kind
of
what's
discussed
here
in
terms
of
funding
opportunities
and
additional
collaboration
opportunities.
M
Thanks
thanks,
Eric
I
can
add
a
an
example
here.
So
one
example
of
a
partnership
with
the
county
is
the
Crestview
Hotel
project,
as
Eric
mentioned,
that
it
does
involve
a
funding
partnership
and
the
Crestview
Hotel
project
is
a
measure.
Eight
project
and
we've
conducted
several
community
outreach
meetings.
We
have
another
one
planned
next
month.
M
So
that
is
one
example
where
it's
both
a
partnership
with
the
county.
It
involves
funding
and
then
we're
also
trying
to
increase
awareness
by
putting
this
information
out
up
on
the
website
and
also
holding
Community
meetings,
and
then
we
will
be
doing
a
similar.
M
This
kind
of
information
campaigns
when
we
have
other
measure
a
funded
projects
come
up.
Those
projects
will
be
listed
on
the
website
as
well.
I
think
one
one
other
line
in
there
that
talks
about
staff
participates
in
Regional
discussions
to
discuss
new
regulations
or
collaboration
or
other
program.
M
The
information
that
we're
providing
a
lot
now
also
occurs
through
our
housing
and
eviction,
help
center
and
that's
an
in-person
resource.
So
that
is
one
additional
piece
that
we're
doing
that's.
You
know
beyond
online
information,
so
that's
another
resource
that
that
is
an
example
where
we're
taking
the
the
regional
meetings
and
the
Partnerships
and
then
providing
it
through
through
in-person
channels
as
well.
M
So
those
are
some
examples
of
Partnerships
and
a
couple
of
examples
about
how
we
try
to
promote
the
resources
available
to
increase
resident
awareness
of
either
housing
opportunities
or
other
programmatic
options
for
them.
J
Use
original
residential
developers
to
maximize
you
can
read
the
whole
thing,
and
the
answer
was
like
what
does
that
have
to
do
with.
K
So
I
I
think
that
is
one
good
example
of
a
project
where
we
use
the
power
of
the
purse
to
encourage
a
residential
developer.
You
know
a
residential
property
owner
to
rehabilitate,
for
you
know,
for
for
increased
Energy
Efficiency,
so
it
it
does
actually
refer
to
I.
K
Think
the
the
objective
but
I
also
think
there
is
something
that
we
can
say
here
about
our
ongoing
actions,
including
our
building
permit
reach
codes,
which
I'll
encourage
Energy
Efficiency
across
a
broad
range
of
residential
developers,
developments
and
as
well
as
just
our
ongoing.
K
L
J
Right
so
I
mean
the
bottom
line
on
all.
This
is
I'm
I'm
going
to
be
really
interested
in
as
if,
if
staff
can
get
some
understanding
of
how
this
changes
in
cycle
six,
because
I
think
many
of
us
have
viewed
this
review
as
checkbox
Council
views
it
as
a
consent
item,
it
probably
doesn't
even
get
enough
votes
to
talk
about
and
I'm
I'm,
just
as
I
Look
to
this
I'm,
like
is,
if
we
answer
these
things
this
way,
the
next
time
on
cycle
six.
J
I
Sorry,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Just
wanted
to
respond
just
very
briefly
to
commissioner
cranston's
comments.
I
think
the
expectation
is
that
there
will
be
more
rigorous
oversight
over
the
implementation
of
these
programs
in
this
cycle.
So
during
the
fifth
cycle
is
when
there
were
numerous
pieces
of
legislation
enacted
beginning
in
about
2017
foreshadowing.
I
What
we're
all
going
through
right
now
in
terms
of
the
adoption
of
the
sixth
cycle,
housing
element
and
and
as
we
all
know,
the
state
has
increased
its
Personnel
for
enforcement
purposes,
so
I
think,
as
we
are
working
on
the
sixth
sixth
cycle,
we
want
to
be
very
cognizant
that
it's
very
likely
that
the
state
will
be
looking
for
kind
of
more
more
progress
and
more
concrete
progress.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
just
had
a
couple
of
just
really
very
high
level
questions.
How
is
this
progress
report
actually
used?
So
is
it
purely
a
regulatory
filing?
Nobody
else
sees
it,
it's
just
the
exhibit
that
was
given
to
us.
There's
no
prose
description.
It's
just
simply
sent
off
to
hcd
and
we
hope
they
like
it.
So
if
you
could
tell
me
a
little
bit
more
about
how
this
is
used,
that'd
be
helpful.
K
So
it's
it
at
the
basic
level.
Yes
right,
it's
sent
off
to
hcd,
but
then
it's
also
made
public
and
all
the
data
from
it
is
also
made
public
and
put
together
with
progress
reports
from
every
other
jurisdiction
in
the
state,
so
that
we're
being.
K
Against
one
another-
and
you
know
anybody-
any
Watchdog
group
from
the
state
can
log
on
and
see
all
of
these
reports
and
make
sure
that
everybody's
making
progress
so
really
that's.
The
purpose
is
to
just
increase
the
transparency
of
what
we're
doing
in
the
city
to
promote
housing.
G
G
But
we
don't
say
that
there's
no
detail
given
about
essentially
what
we've
delivered
with
them
I
mean
those
are
great
programs.
They've
done
a
lot
of
good
in
Mountain
View
in
terms
of
helping
people
that
get
this
place
are
keeping
people
from
being
displaced.
That's
really
really
important,
especially
in
an
environment
where
it's
not
easy
to
build
as
much
housing
as
we'd
like
to
you
know,
I,
don't
think
the
staff
report
is
exactly
what
you're
sending
to
hcd
so
I.
G
You
know
I
get
that,
but
I
think
to
the
extent
that
anyone
might
be
looking
to
well
at
least
included,
I.
Think
when
you,
when
you
send
it
off
to
council,
but
I,
think
we
as
a
city
should
never
miss
an
opportunity
to
talk
about.
Frankly,
some
of
the
great
work
that
the
city
has
been
doing
to
to
help
folks
not
experience.
D
G
Displacement,
which
is
that's
kind
of
sort
of
the
point
of
the
housing
element
right
is
we
want
people
to
have
secure
housing
so
that
just
felt
like
a
missed
opportunity,
because
you
all
have
done
so
many
good
things
in
other
environments,
I,
just
don't
Don't
Want
to
Miss
a
chance
for
the
city
to
brag.
E
Thank
you,
chair
Yin,
quick
question.
I'll
start
I
have
I,
think
I
have
three
questions.
One
I
think
ought
to
be
really
easy.
E
To
what
extent
have
you
guys
heard
of
any
kind
of
like
you
know,
fifth
cycle
covid,
Force
Major
type,
you
know
like
the
state,
isn't
going
to
be
overly
harsh
if
there
was
this
crazy
once
in
a
century
pandemic
that
through
supply
chain
for
development
into
complete
whack?
Is
that
anything
at
all?
That
is
being
like
heard
through
the
grapevine
in
terms
of
relief
for
not
meeting
any
kind
of
fifth
cycle
targets.
K
No
I
I
haven't
heard
anything
like
that.
The
and
certainly
you
know
SB
35
is
in
effect.
You
know.
Mizia
brought
that
up
during.
D
K
And
meet
Arena
targets,
and
the
main
consequence
of
that
is
is
ministerial
approval
of
certain
development
projects
that
has
not
changed
yeah,
no
I,
the
the
review
of
programs.
D
K
Really
foreseen,
as
as
being
a
big
part
of
the
sixth
cycle,
which
is
starting
now
so
I
think
any
kind
of
flexibility
on
housing
element
programs
was
hasn't
necessarily
changed
through
covid.
E
Cool
I
didn't
think
so.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
clear
on
that.
E
So,
along
those
lines
to
some
extent,
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
that
God
forsaken
document
that
we
were
just
on
with
the
underutilized
sites
program
or
a
goal,
or
what
have
you
and
then
also
kind
of
just
comparing
that
to
the
update
zoning
ordinance
row
as
well.
One
thing
that
caught
my
interest
was
that
the
underutilized
sites
progress
box,
notes
at
the
very
end.
The
city
is
currently
reviewing
the
R3
zoning
standards
and
considering
modifications
to
increase
opportunities
for
additional
housing
types.
E
K
So
the
the
status
report
does
not
say
that
we
have
adopted
anything
it
doesn't
it's
not
it's
not
making
any
statement.
That's
factually
untrue.
I
would
also
point
to
this
previous
sentences
that
talked
about
actual
actions
that
we've
taken
actual.
You
know
precise
plans
that
we've
adopted
code
amendments
that
we've
made
that
actually
do
support
this
objective
of
zoning
amendments
that
that
take
advantage
of
underutilized
sites,
so
I
I
would
say
that
the
risk
of
this
language
is
fairly
low.
K
E
And
and
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
that
up-
and
you
know
for
yeah
kind
of
like
arguing
here,
but
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
it
up
is
because
it
just
like
this
concept
of
the
you
know,
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
reflect
back
what
I
heard
here.
The
risk
of
this
language
is
low,
like
it
I,
adding
some
like
qualification
of
risk
to
language.
It
just
seems
to
me
like,
including
something
in
there.
E
That's
just
saying
we're
considering
this
just
it
seems
to
me
like
almost
like
in
a
like
something
that
got
appended
to
it,
a
little
bit
and
and
after
the
fact,
in
a
way,
especially
if,
when
I'm
looking
at
a
couple
items
above
that
there's
another
box
that
says,
update
zoning
ordinance
where
either
a
that
may
have
been
a
little
bit
more
relevant
in
terms
of
including
it
in
that
piece.
E
But
even
then
to
me.
Just
thinking
of
you
know,
including
something
that's
in
consideration
as
part
of
like
you
know,
something
that
is
soon
to
be
in
the
past.
Strikes
me
as
a
little
bit
odd
and
I'm.
Not
gonna,
like
you
know,
ask
for
any
further
clarification
or
you
know,
ask
for
any
kind
of
remediation
or
anything
like
that.
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
point
that
out
the
SEC.
The
third
question:
okay,
I'll
just
turn
this
into
a
statement
and
then
ask
another
question.
E
Regardless
of
you
know
where,
in
this
document
that
R3
tidbit
comes
in
one
of
the
things
that
that
does
come
to
question
for
me,
even
if
we
only
have
maybe
like
relatively
few
acreage
under
R4
is,
if
we
are
considering,
you
know,
modifying
our
R3
standards
and
we're
telling
hcd
that
that's
something
that
we're
you
know
like
considering,
and
if
it
turns
out
that
those
you
know,
new
development
standards
would
make
it
so
that
it
is
to
some
extent
a
more
intensive
land
use
than
R4.
E
E
So
that's
one
thing:
I'll
say
on
that
front
and
then
the
last
bit
that
I'm
gonna
ask
here
has
to
do
with
the
above
moderate
income.
So
I'm
curious.
If
and
I
actually
don't
know
this
so
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
clarification
here
for
my
own
benefit
as
well.
Do
we
monitor
of
the
number
of
units
that
were
entitled
or
like
received
building
permits
I
get
confused?
E
If
that's
the
same
thing,
do
we
track
after
the
fact
how
many
of
those
have
actually
been
constructed
and
built
like
physically
brought
into
reality.
E
Or
just
generally
so,
when
we
entitle,
or
you
know,
give
building
permits,
do
we
then
monitor
and
or
track
how
many
have
physically
become
actual
units
and
so.
K
So
entitlements
yes,
building
permits,
especially
for
developer
projects.
K
There
are
there's
so
much
that
has
to
be
done
in
order
to
get
to
the
building
permit.
It
is
very,
very,
very
rare
for
a
project
to
to
get
a
building
permit
and
then
not
proceed.
It
does
happen,
but
it's
it's
very
rare.
It's
much
more
common
for
things
like
you
know,
single-family
additions.
Things
like
you
know,
like
the
smaller
scale,
things
where
you
know
it
doesn't
take
a
whole
lot
to
actually
get
the
permit.
K
So
we
do
I.
Don't
have
that
data
in
front
of
me
about
how
many
entitlements
actually
turn
into
projects
it's.
You
know
we
did
a
little
bit
of
that
analysis.
During
this
six
cycle.
Housing
element.
We
found
that
it
was
relatively
high.
It
was
higher
than
you
know.
We
had
heard
that
San
Jose's
was
like
in
the.
K
Something
like
that,
it's
much
much
higher
here
people
do
see
a
lot
of
value
in
actually
moving
forward
with
projects
here,
but
I
I
don't
have
that
number
right
in
front.
E
K
I
I
certainly
don't
have
that
number
in
front
of
me.
It
would
take
some
crunching
with
our
data
sources.
You
know
we,
you
know
we
have
a
permit
tracking
system
that
we
could
get
that
number
out
of,
but
yeah
it's
not
something
that
I
have
in.
E
E
Here
so
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
that
up
is
because
you
know-
as
we
are
looking
at
the
sixth
cycle
here-
and
you
know
it
it's
clear-
obviously,
the
number
of
above
moderate
income
units-
you
know
four,
like
4.6
k,
you
know
to
like
4.8,
almost
9k,
that
we're
saying
we're
going
to
complete
in
the
sixth
cycle
right.
E
E
Not
even
just
for
the
above
moderate,
but
for
like
all
the
other
types
as
well,
so
that
would
be
good
to
know
as
a
city
body.
Thank
you.
H
I
mean
we
do
have
that
information
in
our
annual
progress
report.
We
track
entitled
number
of
units
at
all
the
income
levels
we
have
tracked
for
building
permit
issued,
which
is
what
we
specifically
report
to
meet
Arena
thresholds
and
there's
also
completed,
which
is
final
occupancy.
That's
reported
in
our
annual
housing
report
and
you
will
see
it
in
table
A2,
which
is
broke
up
into
multiple
segments,
and
so
that
information
is
presented
to
hcd
and
I
can't
share
my
screen
right
now,
but
well.
H
K
H
H
Continually
building-
and
so
you
know,
you'll
get
more
of
a
broader
picture
if
you're
just
looking
at
Mountain
View,
we
do
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
data
crunching.
But
since
you
know,
hced
has
made
a
more
robust
annual
progress
report
survey
form
for
us
to
fill
out.
We
kind
of
track.
All
of
that.
A
A
I
know
the
state
is
aware
that
we
don't
build
housing
and
there
are
larger
forces
at
play
if
they
are
doing
a
comparison
of
cities
to
cities.
Are
there
any
I
want
to
say,
rewards,
but
are
there
it
you've
got
the
stick
and
you've
got
the
carrot?
Are
there
any
carrots
that
we
know
of
that
are
given
out
to
cities
who
are
genuinely
moving
forward
in
their
numbers?.
K
I
do
believe
that
the
pro-housing
designation,
which
is
a
application
process
that
we're
going
through
right
now
to
get
special
certification
with
the
state
I,
do
believe.
There's
some
some
parts
of
the
pro-housing
designation
that
relate
to
actual
housing
production,
and
so
that
is
that
gives
you
front
row
for
Grants
and
other
funding
opportunities
from
the
state.
So
there
are
some
carrots,
okay,
not
sure.
If
Mr
Chen
knows
of
any
others,.
A
Yeah
I
was
curious
if
it
was
I
was
curious
if,
if
those
carrots
came
in
terms
of
funding
to
help
for
more
affordable
units,
since
that
is
what
we're
really
trying
to
achieve,
that's
these
are
the
targets
that
we're
not
hitting,
and
so
we
need
assistance
in
that
and
I
I
just
want
to
know.
If
there
were
any
details
that
we
don't
know
that
someone
could
share
with
us
if
they
did.
M
Just
to
add
to
what
Eric
was
saying:
it's
not
directly
tied
to
achievement
of
numbers,
but
there
is
a
a
state
program
called
a
local
Housing
Trust
Fund
program,
and
that
is
a
program
that
will
be
applying
for
as
well,
that's
connected
in
part
to
the
pro
housing
designation
and
also
for
the
city
to
to
apply
for
because
we
are
advancing
on
Housing
Programs.
To
my
knowledge,
there
hasn't
again
been
other
funding
sources
of
types
and
numbers
we'll
we'll
see.
M
If
that
changes
in
this
next
cycle,
mostly,
it
has
been
tied
to
cities
being
able
to
provide
first,
obviously
having
a
compliant
housing
element,
but
then
also
implementation
of
different
policies
and
programs.
That's
that's
mostly,
where
that
connection
to
the
housing
element
has
been
with
funding
programs.
A
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A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
all
right,
then.
We
will
now
deliberate
as
a
committee
or
commission
and
or
and
or
make
motions.
F
L
C
A
Thank
you
on
to
agenda
5.2
The
2022
annual
progress
report,
2030
General
plan.
We'll
first
have
a
staff
presentation.
Then
questions
by
the
EPC,
followed
by
public
comment
at
the
closure
of
public
comment.
The
commission
will
then
deliberate
and
take
action.
Staff
presentation
will
be
from
Brittany
whitehill
planner.
Thank
you
good.
N
Evening
Commissioners
and
thanks
for
bearing
with
us
through
the
interesting
technical
difficulties
of
tonight,
my
name
is
Brittany.
Whitehill
and
I
will
be
presenting
this
item
and
I'm
joined
by
Eric
Anderson,
our
Advanced
planning
manager.
The
item
in
front
of
you
consists
of
an
annual
progress
report
of
the
city's
General
plan
action
plan.
N
So
in
2012
the
city
council
adopted
the
2030
General
plan
and
related
General
plan
action
plan.
The
2030
General
plan
action
plan
is
a
list
of
action
items
that
carry
out
the
general
plan's
goals
and
policies.
These
action
items
include
programs,
plans,
studies,
ordinance
updates
and
other
measures.
N
This
year,
staff
has
provided
three
tables
of
General
plan
action
items
for
the
epc's
review
table.
1
includes
items
that
have
not
yet
been
started,
are
currently
in
progress
or
were
completed
during
2022
table
2
includes
items
that
were
completed
prior
to
2022
in
table.
3
includes
items
which
are
achieved
through
day-to-day
operations.
N
Since
last
year's
General
plan,
APR,
two
items
have
been
completed
in
January
of
this
year.
The
city
council
approved
amendments
to
the
zoning
ordinance
to
allow
residential
mixed-use
Village
Center
developments
on
sites
where
the
general
plan
allows
residential
uses
in
the
commercial
neighborhood
CN
and
Commercial
Services
CS
zoning
districts
and
similar
amendments
to
the
El
Camino,
Real
and
grantville's.
Precise
plans
were
also
approved.
N
So,
following
a
recommendation
from
the
EPC,
the
general
plan
APR
will
be
presented
to
City
Council
on
March
28th
of
this
year
and
shortly
thereafter
forwarded
onto
the
California
office
of
planning
and
research
or
opr.
We
would
also
like
to
highlight
that
the
council
goal
setting
process
for
fiscal
years
23-25
is
currently
underway.
Yesterday
the
city
council
held
a
study
session
on
the
upcoming
goal
setting
process.
N
A
E
Yeah
quick
question:
it
I
know
it's
called
the
2030
General
plan.
Is
that,
like
the
actual
expiration
date
of
it?
Is
there
like
a
last
year
for
which,
like
the
annual
progress
report,
is
supposed
to
be
submitted
or
is
it
like?
Once
we've
achieved
all
of
the
things
that
we
were
supposed
to
progress,
we
have
to
start
a
new
job
like.
What's
the
you
know,
progress
on
something
we
get
an
end,
so
I'm
wondering
where
the
end
is.
K
That's
a
great
question,
commissioner.
Yes,
so
it
it
really
is
an
art
more
than
a
science.
The
year
2030
was
chosen
as
a
planning
Target
in
the
during
the
the
general
Plan
update
process
back
in
2012,
so
it
was
kind
of
the
the
Outreach
was.
What
do
you
envision
the
city
to.
K
What
happens
if
we
get
to
2030
and
we're
still
2031
and
we're
still
using
a
2030
General
plan?
Well,
not
much,
but
we
should
be.
You
know
revising
General
plans
on
the
order
of
every
15.
20
years.
So
it's
you
know
it's
a
signal
that
we
should
be.
We
should
be
working
on
it
as
far
as
like
completing
the
action
items
from
the
general
plan.
K
No
we're
not
required
to
complete
everything.
You
know
as
you,
you
know,
as
you
I'm
sure
you
know,
priorities
change
and
a
city
is
never
done.
You
know,
there's
always
new
things
to
work
on
and
new
new
priorities
and
new
challenges
to
address,
and
so
you
know
you,
you
will
see
that
some
of
these
action
items
are
2012
priorities.
K
Some
of
them
have
been
partially
addressed.
Some
of
them
have
been,
you
know,
less
comprehensive.
You
know
addressed
in
some
areas,
but
not
in
others,
and
so
that's
just
the
reality
of
implementing
long-term
plans,
and
so
as
we
start
to
contemplate
whether
we
need
to
do
a
general
Plan
update.
K
D
K
Them
have
kind
of
lost
their
their
importance,
their
their.
You
know
their
reason
for
being
so,
like
I
said
an
art,
not
a
science,
there's
nothing
concrete
about
completing
things
or
getting
to
a
particular
year
in
this
process.
E
G
D
G
K
Yeah
another
great
question:
we
don't
have
a
formal
process
for
doing
that
now.
You
know
we
were
talking
about.
You
know
the
council
ideas
for
for
the
next
two.
K
You
know
the
the
last
night's
council
meeting
and
one
of
the
items
that
came
up
from
one
of
the
council.
Members
was,
let's
you
know
clean
up
some
of
our
codes,
and
you
know
our
Charter
and
some
other
you
know
like
is
there?
K
Is
there
maintenance
work
that
we
need
to
do
for
our
codes
and
policies
and
and
so
that'll
be
brought
forward
to
this
commission
as
something
for
you
to
evaluate
and
and
I
just
bring
it
up
as
a
kind
of
question
and
a
and
kind
of
a
acknowledgment
that
there's
awareness
out
there
that
there
is,
you
know,
there's
these
things
need
to
be
maintained
and
and
cleaned
up
every
once
in
a
while,
but
if
we
haven't
been
kind
of
instructed
to
do
so
it
it
is
not
a
clear
priority
for
us
to
work
on.
G
Well,
hopefully
we
can,
we
can
put
a
flag
on
that
tonight.
The
other
only
other
question
I
had
is
so
who
is
the
audience?
And
what
is
the
the
impetus
for
doing
this?
Is
it
a
state
mandate?
I
forget?
Was
it
if
it's
in
the
government
code
or
not
I
know
we
sent
it
to
opr?
Do
we
do
this
primarily
because
opr
and
state
statute
requires
it
or
do
we
do
it,
because
this
is
something
that
Council
relies
on
in
doing
their
own
work.
K
Well,
I
can't
speak
for
counsel
and
how
they
use
this
information.
It
is
required
and
I
think
it's
required
for
a
reason.
You
know
again
transparency.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
public
can
see
these
reports
and
what
we're
working
on
and
to
the
extent
that
it
is
an
opportunity
for
decision
makers
to
you,
know,
see
this
information
and
have
it
inform
their
priorities
and
their
decision
making
it's
it's
good
to
have
it
in
the
in
the
public
eye
every
every
year.
J
K
L
K
Is
much
more
fully
within
the
city's
own
legislative
power?
The
housing
element
is
kind
of
unique
in
in
its
State
oversight.
There
are
I
will
say
you
know
periodically.
K
There
are
new
laws
that
come
out
that
say:
General
plans
have
to
include
x
and
we
do
kind
of
keep
track
of
those
and
and
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
up
to
date
on
those
and
as
far
as
I
know,
the
the
only
item
that
we
still
have
to
do
has
to
do
with
the
local
Hazard
mitigation
plan,
which
is
actually
being
worked
on
right
now
by
the
county.
So
once
that
happens,
we'll.
J
And
then
I
guess
a
second
or
second
question.
It
struck
me
that
hey
the
general
plan
was
adopted
in
2013.
and
all
the
action
items
had
to
be
done
within
four
to
ten
years
and
guess
what
it's
2013.,
but
there
was
this
thing
called
covert
that
kind
of
mucked
everything
up.
Is
there
any
kind
of
Precedence
for
a
kind
of
a
finding
that
says
that
every
there's,
some
still
good
things
that
we
haven't
done
yet?
Is
there
any
kind
of
Precedence
for
finding
that
says
hey
because
of
covid?
J
We
we
prioritize
the
health
of
our
people
and
our
community,
and
so
we
didn't
work
on
some
of
these
things
and
so
we're
going
to
extend
those
items
for
three
more
years,
and
so
you
have
until
2026
to
get
these
done
and
we
won't
actually
be
looking
at
all
these
things
and
saying
we
we
were.
We
missed
on
all
of
them,
because
we've
prioritized
other
things.
L
L
K
The
action
plan
are,
you
know,
advisory.
You
know
they're
they're
kind
of
describing
a
couple
of
things.
One
thing
one
is
like
the
level
of
effort
to
is
you
know
whether
it's
something
where
we
need
to
do
a
lot
of
other
things
beforehand
before
we
can
get
to
those
and
And
So
It
generally,
they
are
more
descriptive
rather
than
mandatory.
L
K
A
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A
G
D
G
Had
kind
of
a
lot
I
thought
and
felt
as
I
was
reading
through
this
and
I.
Think
perhaps
you
know
perhaps
because
it's
a
it's
a
mandate.
We
got
to
send
this
this
report
to
up
to
Sacramento
it's
very
easy
for
this
to
become
sort
of
a
road
exercise
box
checking,
as
we
we've
said
in
other
ways.
In
other
cases,
this
is
actually
to
me.
This
is
actually
really
important.
G
Management
document
and
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
potential
value
in
sort
of
redoubling
our
effort
with
this
particular
exercise,
especially
because
the
council
right
now
is
rethinking
the
work
plan.
G
When
I
read
this
I
was
actually
pretty
surprised,
I
struggled
with
it
because
it
was
difficult
to
read
the
how
much
progress
we
were
really
making
and
and
how
close
we
were
to
actually
succeeding
and
doing
what
we
said
we
were
going
to
do.
It
was
not
clear.
You
really
had
I
really
had
to
try
to
piece
it
together
and
I
was
kind
of
surprised,
there's
missing
data
fields,
there's
missing
comments.
It
made
it
very
hard
for
me
putting
myself
into
the
shoes
of
a
manager
like
to
look
at
this
and
say
well.
G
Are
we
doing
what
we
said?
We
would
do
and
I
couldn't
answer
that
question
from
looking
at
I
really
had
to
start
piecing
it
together
myself
and
that's
a
really
big,
missed
opportunity.
I
think
in
some
ways
like
when
I
looked
at
this
I
saw
there
were
a
number
of
projects
that
we
said.
We'd
do
in
four
to
ten
years.
It's
been
10
plus
years,
haven't
even
started
them,
and
that
happened
number
there's
a
number
of
those
in
here
and
and
that
concerns
me.
It
doesn't
concern
me
that
we
didn't
get
to
them.
G
It
concerns
me
that
they're
still
on
the
list,
if
we
never,
if
we
don't
have
any
intention
of
doing
it,
you
know
how
do
you
you
know
what
else
do
I
want
to
say:
I
think
that
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
mismatch
between
what's
on
the
list
and
what
we
actually
intend
to
do,
and
that
is
sometimes
why
people
get
frustrated
with
government
and
I.
G
I
and
I
think
we
just
couldn't
get
to
all
those
things,
because
we
probably
had
too
many
things
on
the
list
and
that's
a
really
important
sort
of
management
signal
as
the
council's
putting
together
their
work
plan
for
the
next
10
years,
I
think
getting
a
sense
of
well.
The
last
time
we
took
a
bite
of
this
apple.
We
took
too
big
of
a
bite,
and
maybe
that
means
that
we
should
all
be
a
little
bit
tougher
on
ourselves,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
skeptical
of
what
we
can
actually
achieve.
G
So
we
shoot
at
the
stuff,
that's
the
most
important,
but
we
don't
keep
things
that
we
don't
mean
on
that
list,
and
you
know
I
could
have
a
separate
conversation
about
the
kinds
of
data
points,
I'd
love
to
see
in
the
summary
or
or
other
little
things,
but
I
think
my
macro
comment
is
simply
that
report
told
me
there
were
way
too
many
things
that
we
kind
of
said
we
were
going
to
do
and
we
didn't
mean
it
and
we
sh.
G
J
I
have
a
maybe
a
somewhat
similar
reaction,
but
maybe
a
different
thought
process
on
it.
A.
J
Haven't
been
completed
to
me,
it'll
still,
look
like
good
things:
okay,
as
I
mentioned
before,
something
happened
along
the
road
and
the
world
shut
down
and
everything
changed,
and
so
in
my
mind
it
was
a
question
back
to
council
and
say
we
kind
of
look
at
these
things
and
say
yeah.
A
lot
of
these
things
probably
are
still
worth
working
on.
J
The
fact
that
we
haven't
gotten
them
done
in
the
10
years
doesn't
mean
they're
not
important,
so
either
confirmed
that
they
are
still
valid
priorities
or,
let's
say
we're
going
to
get
we're
going
to
give
three
more
years
to
get
these
finished
because
hey
the
last
three
years,
we
were
doing
other
really
important
things.
It's
not
a
question
of
failure.
Your
comment,
it
wasn't
important.
I
I,
don't
think
that
was
the
decision
of
Alaska
beers.
It
was
like
Hey
people
are
getting
sick
in
thrown
out
of
houses.
J
That's
that
that
was
more
important
that
people
work
on
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
necessarily
I,
don't
necessarily
view
the
fact
that
they're
not
complete
as
a
message
that
they
weren't
important.
Necessarily
it
was
hey.
We
had
something
that
was
even
more
important
that
we
had
to
do
in
the
meantime,
and
so
in
my
mind
it
was
we
should
maybe
the
message
back
to
counselors
if
these
are
still.
J
If
these
are
these
still
important,
if
they
are,
then
we
should
recognize
the
fact
that
staff
was
doing
other
things
that
you
guys
were
doing
other
things
during
the
last
three
years,
and
so
we
could
didn't
have
time
to
work
on
them.
So
let's
keep
on
the
list,
but
let's
not
say
that
they
were
had
to
be
done
by
2023.
J
Now,
we're
going
to
say
they
got
to
be
done
by
2026
and
now
you
work
them
into
this
year's
plan
and
next
year's
plan
and
thereafter
going
forward
so
I
didn't
I,
didn't
I'd
interpret
it
as
they're,
not
important.
It
was
I,
looked
at
them,
they're
all
good
things,
but
we
didn't
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
that,
so
either
validate
or
validate
and
give
more
time
or
say,
they're,
not
they
aren't
important
and
look
at
your
other
list
that
was
kind
of
why
that's
how
I
kind
of
looked
at
it.
E
Yeah
so
my
and
and
I'm
wrong
here,
Steph,
please
throw
my
lifeline.
My
understanding
of
the
general
plan
is
that
it
is
supposed
to
in
some
shape
or
form
act
almost
like
the
constitution
of
development
and
land
use
for
a
city,
and
it
just
hearing
this
kind
of
line
of
thinking,
just
kind
of
reminds
me
of
like
government
class
in
high
school
and
learning
like
you
know
this,
like
there's.
E
I
would
like
to
let
the
Constitutional
Scholars
have
that
debate
and
just
look
at
kind
of
what
in
the
state
of
California
we
have
here,
which
is,
you
know,
almost
like
a
mixture
of
both
with
the
general
plan
giving
credence
to
that
living,
Constitution,
type
of
mentality
and
the
housing
element
kind
of
coming
in
and
being
a
little
bit
more
of
that,
like
you
know,
originalist
like
what
is
written
is
what
it
is
kind
of
approach,
so
I
think
there's
a
melding
of
the
two
and
it's
nice
that
we're
talking
about
both
of
those
things
today
here
personally
honestly,
I
think
that
the
points
raised
by
Vice,
chair
Dempsey
and
commissioner
Cranston
here,
at
least
in
my
mind,
point
a
lot
more
towards
not
like
like
if
we
only
have
so
much
life
energy
to
give
to
the
world.
E
What
this
speaks
to
me
is
that
collectively
we
can
be
thinking
or
devoting
that
energy.
A
little
bit
more
to
the
2050
General
plan
and
not
necessarily
you
know
kind
of
looking
at
the
2030
General
plan
in
2023
and
working
on.
E
You
know
like
validating
or
unvalidating
or
modifying
this
part
of
our.
You
know
like
system
that
is
more
of
the
living
Constitution
type
document
for
the
city.
So
you
know
if
we
want
to
provide
some
sort
of
like
guidance
as
part
of
this.
You
know
I,
guess
I
hear
commissioner
Clark
say
transmittal
a
lot
I've,
never.
D
E
One
of
those,
so
if
the
council
is
going
to
read
a
transmittal,
maybe
we
can
say
something
like
hey.
We
think
you
know
we
should
start
deliberating
the
2050
General
plan.
E
I
would
be
super
down
for
that
as
a
Credence
to
you
know,
instead
of
kind
of
looking
back
and
trying
to
re-modify
something
that's
about
to
die
off
in
seven
years.
If
we
thrust
into
the
future,
then
what's
not
important
or
what
is
no
longer
feasible
or
what
we
don't
have.
The
resources
for
will
naturally
just
fall
away
and
we'll
be
getting
a
head
start
on
what
we
need
to
do
moving
forward
so
yep.
Those
are
my
thoughts
on
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
Nunes
I
was
just
thinking.
Please.
Maybe
Steph
can
help
me
out,
or
deliberation
perhaps
could
right
now
stay
focused
on
whether
or
not
we
approve
the
general
Plan
update
and
then
we
can
deliberate
the
transmittal
portion
after
that.
Is
that
something
we
can
do
because
I
don't
believe
that
what
commissioner
Nunes
had
brought
up
is
necessarily
related
to
the
approval
of
this
General
plan.
K
A
L
E
And
and
just
to
be
clear,
I'm
I'm,
totally
fine,
with
just
voting
to
like
approve
it,
as
is
I'm
speaking
to
Vice,
chair
Dempsey's
concern
around
some
of
these
almost
like
vestigial
items
just
hanging
around
well
I'm,
just
to
be
clear,
just
to
clarify
what
I'm
saying
is
if
we
were
going
to
include
any
kind
of
message
to
counsel
around
that
concern
outside
of
just
that
straight
approval
that
you
just
mentioned,
that
that
is
the
direction
that
I
would
take.
A
All
right,
commissioner,
Nunez
I,
don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth,
but
I
am
going
to
just
take
a
stab
I.
Think
commissioner
Nunez
was
working
off
of
your
statement
about
counsel,
perhaps
looking
at
this
General
plan
in
deciding.
A
G
I
can
only
tell
you
what
my
initial,
what
I
had
been
thinking,
which
is,
and
it
sounds
like
council-
is
going
to
do.
It
is
doing
it
now,
which
is
that
they're
thinking
through
what
they
want
to
have
in
their
work
plan,
as
as
commissioner
Cranston
said,
this
is
a
question
of
you.
B
G
Covid
keep
it
on
the
list.
I
agree
with
that
100
I,
I,
all
I
think
all
I
was
really
trying
to
say
is
I
think
we
should.
This
report
that
goes
to
council
should
be
very
upfront
about
what
we
accomplished
and
what
we
didn't,
because
I
think
that's
an
important
management
signal
that,
like
hey,
that
you
know
having
150
things
on
the
list
or
80
things
on
the
list.
Probably
too
much,
maybe
some
of
it
was
covid.
I
mean
coveted,
was
three
years
they
had
10
years.
G
So
for
seven
of
those
years
they
still
didn't.
Do
anything
I,
simply
I
just
think
we
should
be
really
upfront
about
what
got
done
and
what
didn't
I
think
there's
a
bunch
of
data
fields
in
the
report
that
should
be
filled
in
and
if
we
just
said
hey
covid
couldn't
get
to
it.
That's
good
enough,
but
a
blank.
A
blank
entry
is
not
good
enough,
because
I
think
that
should
help
it
that
should
help
inform
the
councils
they're
thinking
about
what
they
want
to
do.
G
F
Okay,
so
I
think
you
know
when
I
was
I,
think
I
was
still
on
EBC
at
the
time
when
we
we
voted
to
approve
the
this
General
plan
and
the
reason
that
this
is
more
than
just
a
check.
The
box
sort
of
thing
for
for
me
is
one
of
the
I
recall.
F
You
know
in
putting
the
general
plan
together,
one
of
the
most
important
elements
of
it
was
the
implementation
plan
and
all
the
actions
associated
with
that
and
and
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
went
into
it,
and
this
is
sort
of
the
annual
check-in
of
where
all
those
stand.
F
If
you
sit
down
and
take
the
time
to
read
it,
which
is
hard
to
do,
is
there's
a
lot
of
items
in
there,
and
you
know
it
reminded
me
that
at
the
time
we
spent
an
enormous
amount
of
time,
because
you're
trying
to
think
15
20
years
in
advance
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
are
all
the
things
that
we
might
want
to
do
in
order
to
effectuate
all
of
the
goals
that
we
have
and-
and
we
come
up,
came
up
with
this
list
and
it's
it's
not
totally
exhausted.
F
But
it's
a
really
long
list
and
so
I
think
that
maybe
helps
explain
why
these
things,
don't
new
things,
don't
get
added
and
things
don't
fall
off.
It's
sort
of
in
a
way,
a
constitution
that,
yes,
it's
a
really
really
long
time
Horizon,
but
you
sort
of
take
a
stab
in
the
dark
and
say
well.
Maybe
the
Telecommunications
implementation
plan
will
be
an
important
piece
of
this
to
occur
in
the
next
20
years
and
so
that
that's
why
all
it?
F
Building
reuse
or
we
don't
you
know
we
don't,
we
haven't
focused
on
it
so
so
far
or
it's
it's
or
you
know.
That
was
a
bad
example,
but
there
are
certain
things
in
here
that
we
haven't
gotten
to
and
we
don't
know
when
we'll
get
to,
but
we
also
don't
want
to
forget
that
they
were.
You
know
an
important
piece
of
implementing
some.
D
F
F
Just
in
terms
of
checking
in
to
see
what's
been
what's
been
completed,
what's
probably
going
to
happen
what's
in
progress
today,
what
might
be
in
progress
four
to
ten
years
from
now,
but
not
necessarily
removing
things,
although
if
we
did
a
general
Plan
update
as
opposed
to
an
entirely
new
general
plan,
then
you
can
sort
of
go
back
in
and
say:
okay
well,
we've
completed
all
these
things
here
are
some
things
that
we
might
want
to
do
in
the
nearer
term.
D
F
D
F
A
really
long
way
of
saying
you
know
I
vote
to
approve
this
report.
I
appreciate
the
knowing
sort
of
where
everything
stands,
even
though
there
there
are
some
blanks
I.
Think.
The
the
broader
question
that
Council
will
probably
tackle
is
part
of
its
goal.
Setting
that
that
sort
of
kicked
off
last
night
will
be
whether
or
not
we
we
want
to
reopen
the
general
plan
in
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
and
or
whether
or
not
we
kick
off
an
entirely
new
cycle,
but.
F
Are
really
Hefty
questions
that
I,
don't
think
I'd
be
comfortable
with
weighing
in
on
tonight?
I
have
opinions
on
it,
but
but
I
think
for
for
tonight,
I'm
generally
supportive
of
accepting
the
report
and
recommending
this.
The
council
do
the
same,
and
it's
really
good
timing,
because
they'll
be
able
to
see
this
I
think
as
part
of
their
goal,
setting
process
and
and
delve
in
and
look
at
the
areas
that
are.
We
made
progress
on
in
the
areas
that
we
haven't
made
progress
on.
J
J
J
Your
goals
and
priorities
just
to
note
those
items
as
to
whether
there's
you
know
they're
making
their
work
plan,
should
they
be
part
of
it
or
not,
because
we
are
10
years
in
from
when
it
was
approved.
So
that'd
be
my
only.
J
J
E
E
I
am
far
less
interested
in
or
really
supportive
of
providing
some
communication
that
is
backward
looking
at
what
was
originally
written
in
this
document,
especially
and
I
appreciate
how
much
commissioner
Clark
kind
of
shed
some
light
on
this.
The
process
of
creating
this
General
plan
is
inherently
very
future.
E
Looking
and
things
change
you
try
to
hit
the
moving
Target
of
what
the
future
might
be,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
expectation
going
into
a
general
plan,
you
know
kind
of
like
revamp,
I,
won't
even
just
say
kind
of
like
update
or
modificate
like
a
revamp.
I,
don't
think,
and
I
could
be
wrong
on
this,
but
I.
Don't
to
my
understanding.
E
The
expectation
is
not
all
of
these
things
will
be
delivered,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
make
any
additional
commentary
to
counsel
outside
of
just
the
straight
approval,
the
way
I
would
be
supportive
of
that
is
not
by
referencing
what
was
or
was
not
completed
as
part
of
this
General
plan.
E
It
would
be
something
along
the
lines
of,
and
we
have
a
sense
that
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
look
at
whether
kicking
off
a
new
general
plan
cycle
or
something
side
effect
I'm,
not
necessarily
comfortable
referencing
things
that
were
not
completed
in
a
document
where
I
don't
believe
that
the
expectation
going
into
it
was
that
all
those
things
would
be
completed.
It's
not
like
the
housing
element.
E
So,
honestly,
as
of
right
now,
my
preference
is
to
just
vote
for
the
straight
approval
and
that's
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
going
with
that.
Okay.
A
D
On
the
screen
so
I'm
happy.
If
commissioner
Cranston
withdraws
that
I'm
happy
to
do
that
to
me,
I
I
mean
I.
Think
the
general
plan
is
inherently
a
vision
right
it.
Anyone
looking
at
it
wouldn't
understand
that
some
of
the
things
we
set
out
to
do
in
10
years
would
be
delayed
by
a
pandemic,
or
you
know
there
are
things
that
haven't
gotten
to
you
on
that
list.
I
think
Council
was
very
aware
that
we
are
approaching
2030
and
I'm
I,
don't
know
what
weight
it
carries
to
say.
We
should
be
reopening
this
I.
D
D
There
was
a
lot
of
community
input
and
there's
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
describing
what
that
vision
is
so
I,
don't
know:
I
I'm,
now
leaning
more
toward
commissioner
Nunez
I
think
we
just
approve
it,
as
is
I,
think
these
conversations
are
already
underway,
but
if,
if
there's
value
and
if
signaling,
something
from
the
Planning
Commission
that
we
need
to
take
this
more
seriously
and
and
either
retrospectively
look
at
what
might
inform
a
future
General
plan.
D
G
In
truth,
the
thing
that
I
think
is
really
important
here
is
the
data,
because
the
the
council
is
going
to
decide
this,
that's
their
job
and
so
the
what
I
think
the
way
that
we
add
value
tonight,
I
and
and
by
the
way,
I
thought
what
commissioner
Clark
said
made
a
ton
of
sense.
Maybe
the
maybe
the
point
isn't
to
just
go
in
and
take
things
off
the
list,
maybe
for
historical
reasons
they
should
be
on
there.
A
That
to
me
sounds
a
little
bit
different
than
what
commissioner
Cranston
had
put.
F
A
J
Is
it
they
sent
first
sentence
in
the
analysis
section
of
the
staff
report
says
each
PC
is
responsible
for
monitoring
the
implementation
of
the
general
plan,
which
may
include
review
and
prioritization
of
General
plan
actions
that
the
city
has
not
yet
started
and
I'm
at
this
point
it
is
not
we
can.
This
is
telling
us
what
has
and
has
not
been
done
at
this
point.
J
Setting
and
so
part
of
the
reason
that
I'm,
simply
looking
at
listening
as
noting
it
is
or
part
of
our
job,
is
to
Mudder
the
progress,
and
the
report
says
this
is
where
we're
at,
and
so
the
reason
I
was
suggesting
that
we
note
back
to
council
is
hey.
It's
been
10
years.
These
items
were
expected
to
be
done
within
10
years.
J
Are
these
to
you
know,
I
want
you
to
note
these
things.
If
you're
going
to
decide
to
do
a
general
Plan
update,
here's
something
to
think
about.
If
you
want
to
do
a
whole
General
plan,
here's
something
think
about
it's.
It
feels
like
the
part
of
it
that
says
that
we're
then
asked
to
review
and
prioritize
I.
J
Don't
believe
I
could
adequately
do
that
right
now,
because
I
don't
know
whether
the
items
that
are
10
years
old
are
still
priorities
or
not
I'm,
not
looking
for
them
I'm,
not
looking
to
say
that
they
are
or
they
are
not.
It's
simply
a
way
of
communicating
hey
guys.
It's
been
10
years.
You
asked
us
to
monitor
this.
These
items
aren't
done
in
your
thinking
about
what
you're
planning
on
doing.
Maybe
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
this,
and
so
that's
essentially
what
my
motion
is?
It's
not.
This
is
what
we
should
do.
J
D
J
Item
and
it
just
gets
a
check
box,
then
we
don't,
then
I
can
withdraw
it
I.
Just
that's
my
reason
for
including
it
is
I.
Don't
know
whether
to
recommend
the
items
that
are
on
here
that
aren't
completed
or
not,
and
so
it's
that's
the
reason
that
I
was
suggesting
what
we
were
suggesting.
If
that's
not
support
for
that,
I
will
throw
it,
but
that's
why
I
was
putting
it
up
there.
L
L
F
Member
of
the
public
going
it's
very
difficult
to
see,
what's
been
de-prioritized
what
what
hasn't
been,
what
what's
still
a
big
priority
and
what
isn't
because
a
lot
of
these
are
intertwined
with
CIP
projects
that
are
have
their
own
priority,
and
that's
why,
as
commissioner
Cranston
said,
it
would
be
really
hard
to
go
in
and
sort
of
reprioritize
things,
because
there's
also
the
priorities
the
council's
made
on
like
CIP
and
a
lot
of
these
things
are
infrastructure
and
and
other
things,
but
I
I
think
overall,
look
I,
I'm,
fine,
with
either
form
of
emotion,
but
just
you
know
moving
this
forward
in
one
way
or
the
other
I.
F
My
guess
is
that
the
council
was
probably
already
thinking
about
some
of
what
some
of
the
items
that
they
already
in
the
back
of
their
mind
are
prioritizing,
especially
on
the
CIP
side,
in
terms
of
what
they
want.
You
know
hasn't
happened
in
10
years
and
whether
or
not
they
they
want
it
to
happen
in
in
the
near
term.
For
you
know
just
because
you
know
the
the
tunnel
under
Central
Expressway,
San
Antonio.
That
was
a
really
really
big
priority
at
the
time
that
we
did
all
this.
F
It
sort
of
fell
off
the
map,
because
Mayfield
didn't
get
redeveloped
the
way
everyone
thought
and
and
and
and
all
sorts
of
other
things
just
as
an
example.
So
anyway,
I
I'm,
fine
with
whatever
folks
want
to
do
here,
I
understand
the
sentiments
behind
behind.
What's
going
on
or.
E
Yep,
so
in
terms
of
like
things
that
we,
you
know
like
action
items,
basically
right
that
we
as
a
body
put
into
effect
one
of
the
questions
that
I'm
trying
to
process
here,
whether
it's
you
know
like
data,
whether
it's
you
know
anything,
that's
currently
not
in
this
progress
report
already.
E
My
question
is:
why
isn't
it
right
and
in
terms
of
like
you
know,
for
someone
like
me,
I
can
look
at
a
report
like
this
and
say:
oh,
you
know
it
would
be
nice
to
have
this.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
that.
E
But
in
terms
of
like
how
this
report
comes
together,
you
know
there's
a
whole
like
body
of
you
know,
staff
resources
that
go
into
producing
these
reports,
and
so
for
me
I
could
say
you
know
if
I
imagine
that
you
know
I
had
the
power
of
seven
Commissioners
and
I
could
singularly
you
know,
vote,
however,
I
wanted
and
it
my
vote
was:
hey
staff
go
collect
this
data.
E
E
Why
isn't
it
there
already
is
a
better
approach
for
us
to
ask
Council
as
part
of
this,
for
example
like
work,
setting
or
goal
setting
to
not
just
or
for
us,
not
to
just
kind
of
say:
hey
staff
go
get
this
information
out
there
without
knowing
what
the
work
impacts
are
to
an
already
stretched
out
staff
versus,
maybe
in
some
shape
or
form
when
we
say
to
council
hey
when
you're
thinking
about
you
know
this
expiring
General
plan
think
about
the
reporting
mechanism
that
goes
into
that
think
about
what
resources
you're
going
to
need
to
enable
and
Empower
staff
to
collect
this
information.
E
What
is
the
relevant
information
that
would
constitute
public
transparency,
because
right
now,
I'm
not
really
clear
on
what
you
know.
Amount
of
work
would
go
into
collecting
this,
how
much
follow-up
we're
asking
of
Staff
and
if
it's
even
necessarily
you
know
what
the
what
the
impact
is
to
relevance
so
I'm
personally,
not
really
comfortable
with
that.
E
Maybe
it's
really
easy
to
do
and
you
know
my
comments
are
totally
Moot
and
you
know
that
would
that
might
change
my
mind
but
as
as
of
right
now,
I'm
not
really
comfortable
with
with
anything
outside
of
the
approval.
A
Okay,
just
for
my
own
clarification
here,
I'm
going
to
chime
in
and
just
say
that
it
sounds
to
me
that
there's
a
presentation
question
and
how
this
gets
presented
and
I
don't
know
if
that
is
something
that
Council
needs
to
be
noted
or
if
it's
a
staff
thing
just
in
how
the
information
is
presented,
that
that
sounds
to
me,
like
that's
in
one
of
the
issues.
A
There
are
several
discussion
points
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
I
myself
look
at
the
general
plan
as
sort
of
the
guideline
it's
so
far
in
the
future,
from
when
it
was
made
that
it
is
sort
of
you
know,
Milestones
you're,
trying
to
hit,
and
if
you
don't
hit
it,
maybe
that's
what
you're
discussing
did
we
hit
it?
That's
just
in
the
presentation
of
the
material,
so
I
don't
want
to
add
my
thoughts
into
what
you
were
saying,
but
that's
sort
of
what
I
was
getting
from.
A
That
staff
had
earlier
had
mentioned
that
their
work
plan
they're
working
on
it
now,
and
someone
had
already
brought
up
the
idea
of
sort
of
cleanup,
Clean
cleaning
house
on
that
kind
of
thing.
So
that's
going
to
come
before
the
EPC
and
I
feel
like
the
recording
of
this,
could
just
be
like
copied
and
pasted
in
there
when
it
comes
up
in
discussion
of
what
we
would
recommend
they
put
on
their
work
plan,
because,
as
Nunes
stated,
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
stuff
effort.
A
J
D
E
My
vote
on
this
ruffle
is
gonna.
I
need
direct
clarification
from
Mr
Anderson
right
now,
when
you
said
earlier
that
Council
was
talking
about.
You
said
something
about
some
one
of
the
council.
People
was
talking
about
like
updates
and
such
and,
if
I
think
that's
what
we're
referencing
here.
I'm
gonna,
like
very
directly,
was
the
proposed
work
item
being
discussed.
K
It
was,
it
was
a
very
high
level
comment
or
or
proposal
about
maintaining
our
municipal
code
and
our
Charter
specifically
I
brought
it
up
as
an
example
of
awareness
about
this
issue
of
maintaining
our
policies.
I,
don't
think
that
the
council
member
was
thinking
of
the
general
plan
action
plan
when
he
brought
it
up
the
that
being
said,
you
know
I
think
there's
one
of
the
goals
that
council
member
Ramirez
had
when
he
brought
it
up
last
night
was
maybe
there
are
things
that
we
literally
can't
enforce.
K
Maybe
there
are
things
that
are
actually
holding
us
back
by
being
in
our
code
that
we
really
really
need
to
clean
up
and
then
I'll,
just
kind
of
say.
K
You
know
this
list
that
we
have
that
we're
reporting
on
not
too
many
consequences
of
of
it
being
there
right,
as
opposed
to
some
code
language,
that
is,
you
know
either
unenforceable
or
counterproductive
in
the
way
that
it's
enforced,
that
needs
to
be
cleaned
up,
so
I
I
will
make
that
distinction
just
kind
of
reading
the
tea
leaves
there
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
E
Great
so
then
the
reason
I
asked
us
because
Cherian
I
heard
you
mention,
as
part
of
you,
know,
kind
of
like
corralling.
This
group
here
that
part
of
the
thinking
was
that
this
was.
E
And,
and
from
what
I'm
hearing
Mr
Anderson,
would
you
characterize
a
I?
What
I
heard
was
that
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
characterized
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
I
won't
put
words
in
your
mouth
as
a
general
plan
review
more
than
a
high
level
thinking
through
the
municipal
code
writ
large
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
premises
we
were
working
on
were
very
clear
here.
E
I,
don't
support
like
going
through
the
you
know,
fine-tooth
comb
with
this
I.
Also
don't
support
just
saying
you
know
yes
to
things
for
saying
yes
to
it,
so
that's
yeah.
I
F
I
I
was
gonna,
we
could
do
it
as
a
I
could
make
a
substitute
motion
and
then
we
could
sure.
J
L
J
F
Sort
of
clear
what's
on
the
floor,
and
so
so
I
will
recognizing
there's
already
a
motion
inside
the
floor.
All
procedurally
make
a
substitute
motion
that
we
recommend
that
the
EPC
recommend
to
the
city
council
that
they
accept
the
2022
General
plan.
Annual
progress
report
exhibit
one
of
the
EPC
staff
report.
L
L
C
A
J
F
It's
not
a
second,
it's
more,
a
clarification
if
I
may
for
staff
would
would
this
just
be
in
the
The
Narrative
of
the
staff
report
yeah
that
first
page
and
then
you
have
the
attachment
yep.
Okay,
thanks.
C
Okay,
commissioner
Clark.
L
C
Commissioner
Cranston
commissioner
heymar
aye,
commissioner
Nunes
aye
Vice,
chair
Dempsey,.
G
A
K
I'll
just
say
a
few
things:
first
off
we're
expecting
the
housing
element,
revision
revised
draft
to
be
publicly
available
on
Monday
March
15th
will
be
the
epc's
opportunity
to
review
and
make
a
recommendation
on
those
changes.
So
we're
hopefully
giving
you
guys
a
little
bit
of
extra
time
to.
K
We
are
tentatively
scheduling,
The
Retreat,
that
you
guys
asked
for
for
one
of
the
meetings
in
May,
so
we'll
we'll
have
that
have
more
information
about
that
soon.
You
know,
I
think
we've
been
hearing
a
lot
about
just
the
council
discussion
of
their
priorities
and
proposed
projects
and
just
going
to
make
that
announcement
as
well.
But
it's
been
announced
a
couple
of
times
already.
J
So
a
request
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
process
is,
but
I
shouldn't
have
to
read
that
in
the
voice
that
there
has
been
an
announcement
about
the
housing
element,
the
release
is
not
on
the
housing
element.
Web
page.
The
description
of
what
is
coming
forward
was
not
shared
with
the
EPC.
It's
not
out
in
some
place
where
it's
easily
found,
and
so
that
release
needs
to
be
linked
to
the
housing
element
web
page
because
part
of
what
we
get
back
from
hcd
is
we're
not
communicating
okay,
so
it
shouldn't
be
a
mystery.
J
The
only
reason
I
could
find
it
was
because
the
voice
was
good
enough
to
embed
the
link
can't
get
to
that
from
anything
associated
with
the
housing
element.
We
need
to
be
transparent
about
what's
coming
what's
happening
and
the
voice
is
not
the
only
place
where
people
go.
There's
a
lot
of
people
that
subscribe
to
that
page
and
so
I
request
that
staff
add
that
item
onto
the
housing
I
want
web
page.
So
people
can
see
what
was
released
to
the
public
through
the
the.
A
Any
other
updates
or
requests
Commission,
no
all
right,
seeing
none
the
meeting
will
be
adjourned.
It
is
currently
sorry
my
glasses
are
a
little
foggy.
908
p.m,
and
the
next
regularly
scheduled
EPC
meeting
will
be
held
on
March
15th
2023.