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From YouTube: January 26, 2023 Public Safety Advisory Board Meeting
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Live Teleconference of the Public Safety Advisory Board Meeting on January 26, 2023.
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A
To
order
during
the
declared
State
of
Emergency,
the
meeting
will
be.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
the
California
government
code.
54953
is
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
city.clerk
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
application
resolution.
All
members
of
the
public
safety
Advisory
Board
will
participate
in
the
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
only
to
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live
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and
not
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A
B
Yes,
chair
Frank.
E
C
Remember
brodovsky
present
member
Langton.
A
Thank
you
very
much
item
number
three
is
oral
Communications
item.
Three
is
oral
Communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
Advisory
board
on
any
matter,
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
a
period
of
time,
depending
on
how
many
are
here
during
this
election,
state
law
prohibits
to
psab
from
acting
on
non-agendized
items.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
like
to
provide
comment
on
an
item
that
is
not
on
the
agenda?
B
I'm
I'm,
seeing
Dana
PD
with
her
hand
up.
You
want
me
to
allow.
A
B
H
H
Two
quick
questions
or
requests,
rather
on
behalf
of
NBC,
for
the
first
of
which
is
we're
really
excited
to
learn
more
about
the
Ripa
data
subcommittee
report
out
and
we're
still
curious
if
there'd
be
a
way
to
have
a
standing
agenda
item
for
each
of
the
subcommittees
to
report
out
just
even
brief
updates
on
whatever
they've
been
working
on
since
the
previous
meeting,
especially
with
fewer
meetings
on
the
calendar
this
upcoming
year,
it
seems
like
a
good
way
to
stay
abreast
of
everything
going
on
with
the
various
subcommittees.
H
H
We
would
love
to
hear
that
you're
going
to
continue
to
meet
with
hybrid
capacity
beginning
in
February,
we've
heard
the
atrium
room
is
where
many
other
groups
are
going
to
be
meeting,
because
it's
already
set
up
with
AV
technology
to
allow
for
this
to
happen,
we've
also
heard
that
you
know
they're
trying
to
equip
a
number
of
other
rooms
with
AV
capacity
and
so
that'd
be
great.
The
more
the
merrier
it'd
be
great
to
have
lots
of
options,
but
we
hope
at
least
the
February
meeting
will
start
somewhere.
H
That
is
Av
ready,
ready
to
go
so
that
we
can
keep
this
open
line
of
communication
and
transparency
that
has
been
so
so
usefully
built
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
and
then
at
that
point,
if
there's
you
know
more
options
for
more
rooms
once
others
are
online,
then
obviously
the
more
options,
the
better.
Those
are
our
requests.
Thank
you
so
much
and
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you.
F
Hi
all
Happy
New
Year,
actually
the
previous
speaker
took
some
took
what
I
was
going
to
say
right
out
of
my
mouth,
looking
forward
to
meeting
in
the
meat
world
and
in
person
when
we
have
that
option
and
I
know
I'm
sure
it's
not
really
within
the
capacity
of
the
board
to
deal
with
infrastructure
in
City
Hall,
but
maintaining
hybrid
options
like
like
city
council,
has
been
doing
really
great
for
transparency,
great
for
accessibility,
looking
forward
to
meeting
in
the
meat
world,
as
as
this
happens,
but
really
would
would
hope
to
be
able
to
see
us
maintain
a
hybrid
option.
F
B
A
E
I
I
just
had
a
point
of
clarification
if
I
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting,
do
I
abstain
from
voting
on
the
meeting
minutes
voting
to
approve
the
meeting
minutes.
I
wasn't
quite
sure
how
that
works.
D
A
In
a
second
Mr
Langton
from
lamington,
would
you
like
to
take
to?
Would
you
like
to
take
the
role?
Yes.
A
E
B
And
member
Tang:
yes,.
A
Thank
you.
Moving
on
to
item
number
five,
an
update
for
services
for
residents
living
in
vehicles
and
enforcement
of
parking
regulations,
recommendations.
This
item
will
be
presented
by
assistant
to
the
city
manager,
Kimberly
Thomas,
human
services
manager,
cornet
shinda,
wait
the
Hinds
staff
Police
Captain
Scott
Nelson
Lieutenant,
Matt,
Atkins
and
community
outreach
officer,
Jen
Leaf
McPherson,
who
I
am
dying
to
ride
with
on
a
Ride
Along.
K
I'll
start
us
out
and
I'll
ask
Jennifer
to
bring
up
our
PowerPoint
and
thank
you
good
evening
and
thank
you
board
members
for
inviting
us
here
tonight.
You'll
see,
we've
got
a
team
of
folks
from
the
city
manager's
office,
Human,
Services
Division,
as
well
as
the
police
department
here
to
speak
with
you
tonight
about
this
important
issue
associated
with
route
or
residents
that
are
living
in
vehicles
tonight,
we'll
cover
in
our
presentation
a
very
brief
introduction
and
overview
of
Human
Services
living
in
vehicles,
background
information,
our
overarching
services
and
programs.
K
A
bit
of
background
about
the
management
of
the
public
right-of-way,
as
well
as
police,
Outreach
and
enforcement
enforcement
data
and
time
for
questions
and
response
and
I'll
ask
Jennifer
to
advance
the
slide
there.
We
go.
That
is
our
agenda
shown
on
the
screen
there
for
tonight,
and
we
will
have
ample
time
at
the
end,
as
I
just
noted,
for
questions
we'll
go
to
the
next
slide,
offering
a
bit
of
introduction
to
Human
Services
and
what
we
do
here
amongst
the
team,
including
our
Police
Department.
Really,
homelessness
is
a
significant
Regional,
Statewide
National
concern
and
locally.
K
It
does
require
a
team
approach
internally
here
at
City
Hall
and
in
partnership
with
external
agencies.
The
city
balances
the
unhoused
homeless
needs
with
neighborhood
needs
through
collaboration
and
coordination.
It
includes
a
team
of
the
police
department,
Fire
Department
Public
Works
Community
Services
Community
Development,
which
is
planning
and
housing
and
the
city
attorney's
office.
In
addition,
we
work
very
closely
with
the
city
manager's
office,
multilingual
engagement
program
for
translation
of
our
collateral
and
Communications
to
reach
our
lived
in
vehicle
residents.
K
We
work
to
develop
solutions
for
issues
related
to
homelessness
and
overall
Public,
Health,
Community
safety
and
quality
of
life
in
Mountain
View.
Integral
to
these
efforts
is
the
collaboration
with
the
police
department,
neighborhood
and
events
Services,
Unit
or
NES
that
the
PD
team
will
be
talking
about
more
tonight,
which
works
to
balance,
compassion
and
enforcement
of
parking
and
other
right-of-way
Management
Solutions
and
regulations
next
slide.
K
The
recently
established
Human
Services
Division,
that
is
staffed
by
our
human
services
manager.
Prerni
denza
was
created
through
the
elimination
of
a
vacant
police
officer
position
and,
as
Audrey
highlighted
a
bit
earlier,
it
leads
our
formulation
of
policy
and
recommendations
and
response
strategies
to
homelessness.
Overall,
these
service
and
Services
overall
include
housing,
mental
health,
Outreach
case
management
and
other
basic
needs
in
human
services.
K
K
The
city
has
addressed
homelessness
across
this
broad
Continuum
over
the
last
six
years.
One
of
the
services
hasn't
does
include
safe
parking,
which
is
one
type
of
temporary
housing
and
housing
is
in
quotes,
but
it's
a
form
of
assistance
and
program
development
and
support
that
is
included
along
the
Continuum
of
Care.
K
Over
these
last
six
years,
the
city
has
committed
nearly
11
million
dollars
in
funding
capital
and
operations
to
serve
residents
who
are
homeless
or
unstably
housed
going
beyond
the
scale
of
what
is
typical
for
a
city
of
Mountain
View
size
next
slide,
understanding
of
what
human
services
does
and
how
it
serves
our
most
vulnerable,
our
homelessness
residents.
It's
helpful
to
First
understand
a
bit
of
the
definitions
about
what
homelessness
is
and
how
it's
considered
at
the
federal
and
state
and
local
level.
K
The
city
has
worked
to
establish
these
services
and
programs
really
broadly,
but
also
specifically
targeted
at
our
living
and
vehicle
residents.
In
particular,
the
city
has
facilitated
Outreach,
to
encourage
engagement
with
case
management,
to
get
residents
on
the
pathway
to
more
stability
and,
ideally
longer
term
stable
housing
more
about
the
city's
vehicle
count,
Trends
and
other
details,
as
well
as
living
in
vehicle
programs
and
services.
I'm
going
to
hand
it
to
parney
denza
to
continue.
L
Thank
you,
Kimberly
the
county
of
Santa
Clara's.
Most
recent
point
in
time
count
was
in
2022.
the
count
indicated
there
were
346
homeless
individuals
in
Mountain
View.
This
is
a
decrease
of
43
from
the
prior
count
in
2019,
which
was
606
homeless
individuals
in
Mountain
View
to
augment
the
information
from
the
county
point
in
time
count.
The
city
also
conducts
a
street-by-street
count
of
vehicles
that
appear
to
be
in
use
for
living
purposes.
L
The
city
has
continuously
collaborated
with
the
local
emergency
assistance
network
of
community-based
organizations
and
providers
to
combine
and
leverage
resources
to
help
as
many
people
in
need
as
possible
through
a
range
of
programs
and
services.
The
needs
and
services
related
to
homelessness
can
be
viewed
within
a
Continuum
of
Coordinated
Care,
as
Kimberly
mentioned
earlier.
L
Next
slide,
as
Kimberly
had
also
mentioned.
Homelessness
is
a
significant
and
growing
issue,
driven
by
many
factors,
notably
a
shortfall
in
housing,
Supply
and
affordable
housing
throughout
the
region
and
the
state.
The
city
of
Mountain
View
has
focused
on
a
variety
of
strategies
to
address
homelessness,
including
congregate,
shelter,
Outreach,
Services,
safe
parking,
Community,
Resources,
access
and
case
management,
interim
housing,
basic
Services,
core
housing
programs
and
sanitation
and
hygiene.
L
The
overarching
goal
is
to
support
residents
to
access
services
and
get
them
on
the
pathway
to
housing.
Some
examples
of
this
include
partnering,
with
the
valley,
homeless,
Healthcare
program
to
conduct,
site
visits
and
provide
backpack,
Medical
Care
funding
of
portable
restrooms
and
mobile
showers
and
washers
and
dryers
to
help
address
basic
hygiene
needs.
Expanding
the
city's
support
of
portable
restrooms
and
hand
wash
stations
throughout
the
community
and
providing
funding
to
Community
Services
Agency
commonly
referred
to
as
CSA
to
expand
mobile
shower
services.
L
city
of
Mountain
View
actions
specific
to
the
needs
of
residents
living
in
vehicles
include
funding
for
basic
Services
programming
for
the
cold
weather,
shelter,
programs,
funding,
basic
health
and
safety
services
such
as
Biohazard
Waste,
cleanup
services,
funding
various
hygiene
Services
over
the
years,
including
significant
expansion
during
the
covid-19
pandemic
and
conducting
Pilots
to
test
Solutions
such
as
a
recreational
vehicle.
Sanitary
waste
disposal,
voucher
pilot
program
next
slide.
L
Additional
actions
specific
to
the
needs
of
those
living
in
vehicles
include
the
city
providing
joint
city
and
county
funding
for
CSA
Outreach
to
individuals
living
in
vehicles
for
three
years
and
conducting
ongoing
multilingual
Outreach
strategies
using
multi-channel
communication
to
meet
the
homeless
where
they
are.
Furthermore,
this
city
has
convened
the
faith
community
and
neighboring
City
agencies
to
discuss
solutions
to
address
the
growing
need
for
assistance
in
serving
the
unhealth
and
Mountain
View.
L
The
city
has
also
developed
a
safe
parking
ordinance
and
permit
program
for
private
Lots
funded
the
startup
of
a
non-profit
move
Mountain
View
to
provide
safe
parking
services
created
the
largest
safe
parking
program
in
the
county,
in
conjunction
with
the
county
of
Santa
Clara
that
operates
24
hours
seven
days
a
week
provided
all
necessary
safe
parking
sites
set
up
and
lock
preparation
supported.
The
human
relations
commission
subcommittee
for
safe
parking
Outreach
on
its
efforts
to
secure
additional
safe
parking.
M
M
For
instance,
there
are
different
laws
that
govern
and
functions
that
must
be
provided
for
the
public,
right-of-way
and
public
right-of-way
refers
to
an
area
of
real
property
in
which
the
city
has
a
dedicated
or
acquired
right-of-way
interest
in
the
real
property.
This
area
is
not
intended
for
exclusive
use.
The
city's
owns
its
right-of-way,
both
in
fee
and
in
Street
easements
over
private
property.
M
Both
right-of-way
types
are
legally
defined
as
being
for
public
use
as
a
street
and
for
the
purposes
of
laying
and
stalling,
maintaining,
repairing,
protecting
and
replacing
sanitary
sewers,
water
mains,
storm
drains
gas,
Mains,
poles,
overhead
and
underground
electrical
and
telephone
wire,
cable,
television
and
other
Municipal
uses
the
cities
right
away
also
provides
a
limited
supply
of
on-street
public
parking
for
all
to
use.
The
maintenance
and
operations
are
funded
by
the
city.
The
city's
restrictions
and
Regulatory
parking
is
permitted
in
the
California
vehicle
code
and
specified
in
the
city
of
the
Mountain
View
city
code.
M
N
M
M
M
N
O
All
right,
thank
you.
Lieutenant
Atkins
I'm,
going
to
cover
the
structure
of
the
police,
Outreach
and
enforcement
team
in
the
next
few
slides.
The
overarching
unit
that
covers
our
Outreach
and
enforcement
is
called
the
youth
and
Community
Services
Unit,
which
is
comprised
of
two
units.
The
first
is
our
school
resource
officer
unit
that
works
with
the
schools,
and
the
second
is
our
neighborhood
and
Event
Services,
Unit
or
NES,
which
you
may
have
heard.
O
O
The
NES
team
consists
of
one
dedicated
Sergeant
one
Community
Service
Officer,
and
one
community
outreach
officer
which
is
currently
generally
a
McPherson,
and
our
most
recent
selection
for
that
position
did
include
one
member
of
the
community
on
the
panel
member
for
that
selection
process
and
the
NES
unit
is
the
primary
unit
that
we
use
for
Education,
Outreach
and
enforcement
for
those
experiencing
homelessness
and
living
in
vehicle
population
GitHub.
The
next
slide,
please.
O
O
Just
prior
to
that
in
March
of
2019,
the
Mountain
View
city
council
passed
ordinance
14.19,
which
was
referred
to
as
the
Narrow
Street
ordinance
or
the
measure
C
ordinance.
This
ordinance
restricts
the
parking
of
oversized
Vehicles,
including
boats,
large
trucks
and
RVs
on
streets
that
are
40
feet
wide
or
less
to
address
traffic
safety
concerns.
O
The
agreement
also
did
recognize
that
at
times,
it
may
be
necessary
for
other
officers
to
engage
in
enforcement
related
to
measure
C.
Our
internal
process
is
that,
if
a
call
comes
in
for
one
of
these
type
of
complaints,
it
will
be
entered
primarily
for
an
NES
member
to
respond
to
if
they
are
not
available,
a
patrol
officer
will
respond
to
the
location
and
assess
for
any
potential
violation.
O
However,
if
there's
no
immediate
need
for
enforcement,
that
incident
will
be
forwarded
to
the
NES
unit
for
follow-up,
also
on
October
1st
of
2022
all-timed
parking
enforcement,
including
72-hour
enforcement,
resumed
starting
October
1st.
We
also
started
receiving
an
increase
in
the
number
of
72-hour
restriction
violation,
complaints
coming
into
our
department,
the
NES
unit,
along
with
other
parking
units,
including
our
parking
assistance
and
community
service
officers,
responded
to
these
complaints.
O
O
This
approach
began
with
identifying
vehicles
in
violation
of
70
Tower
restrictions
and
placing
yellow
warning
cards
on
them.
We
also
met
with
Community
groups,
advocates
for
those
experiencing
homelessness
and
the
unhoused
oversized
vehicle
residents
and
concerned
residents
as
well.
We
could
go
to
the
next
slide
please.
O
This
slide
covers
the
settlement
agreement
related
to
how
citations
or
toes
may
be
made
related
to
measure
C
or
bicycle
lane.
Streets
I'm
just
going
to
walk
through
steps
one
through
five,
so
the
first
one
is
to
provide
warnings
and
distribute
parking
maps
to
Vehicles
parked
on
narrow
streets
and
streets
with
bike
bicycle
Lanes.
O
O
O
We
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
I'm!
Sorry
back
one
slide
there.
We
go.
This
slide,
discusses
the
circumstances
when
an
immediate
toe
could
occur.
The
first
one
is
not
related
to
measure
C
or
narrow
streets
or
bicycle
lane
streets
if
a
vehicle
is
obstructing
traffic
or
blocking
a
driveway.
O
The
second
one
is
for
a
repeat
offender,
so
an
RV
that
has
three
parking
citations
for
violation
of
narrow
streets
and
a
bike
lane
ordinance
issued
at
least
72
hours
apart
at
any
time
during
the
effective
period,
this
exception
cannot
be
used
until
the
settlement
agreement
is
fully
executed,
which
will
be
announced
at
a
later
date.
The
effective
period
Begins
the
date
of
the
settlements
and
goes
for
a
period
of
four
years,
and
next
I
will
turn
it
back
to
Lieutenant
Atkins.
M
M
This
slide
shows
the
enforcement
data
regarding
the
oversized
vehicle
parking
citation
on
narrow
streets
from
October
1st
October
31st.
There
was
approximately
42
vehicles
that
were
cited
on
narrow
streets
from
November
1st
to
November
30th.
There
was
approximately
six
Vehicles
cited
and
then
from
December
1st
December
31st.
There
were
approximately
nine
Vehicles
cited.
No
vehicles
were
towed
for
oversized
vehicle,
no
oversized
vehicle
were
towed
on
narrow
streets,
but
two
vehicles
were
towed
for
expired
registration
that
were
parked
on
narrow
streets.
M
M
M
127
Vehicles
there
are
approximately
23
oversized
vehicles
that
were
cited.
One
vehicle
was
towed
for
parking
in
excess
of
72
hours.
In
that
October
time
frame
for
November
1st
through
November
30th,
there
are
approximately
116
passenger
vehicles
provided
with
pamphlets
and
zero
passenger
vehicles
were
cited.
There
are
approximately
89
oversized
Vehicles
breaded
pamphlets
and
of
those
89
oversized.
Vehicles
14
were
cited.
M
No
vehicles
were
towed
for
parking
in
excess
of
72
hours
in
November
for
December
1st
through
December
31st,
there
are
approximately
12
Vehicles
passenger
vehicles
provided
with
pamphlets,
and
two
of
those
Vehicles
were
cited.
There
are
approximately
115
oversized
Vehicles
provided
with
pamphlets
and
34
oversized
Vehicles
were
cited.
Three
vehicles
were
towed
for
parking.
M
Excess
of
72
hours
should
be
noted
that
an
additional
17
Vehicles
were
cited
for
parking
in
excess
of
72
hours
through
our
Vasa
or
abandoned
vehicle
abatement
Service
Authority
program,
so
those
would
be
vehicles
that
were
not
imagined
and
were
determined
to
be
abandoned.
M
M
A
C
A
Very
good,
okay
I
don't
have
any
particular
order,
so
I'm
just
going
off
my
screen,
so
please
don't
be
mad
at
me.
I'll
start
with
remember:
IR.
R
E
So
I
had
a
quick
just
one
quick
question,
so
these
are
questions
for
the
first
part
of
the
presentation
from
this
from
parnith
and
from
Kimberly,
and
then
the
second
part
of
the
presentation
from
the
PD
are
so
questions
across
everything,
or
are
we
doing
it
bisection
or
just
wanted
to
check
across
everything?
E
Okay,
I
have
a
number
of
questions,
so
I'll
just
do
I'll,
just
keep
raising
my
hand.
Just
so
you
know
okay,
so
my
first
question
is
for
parneth
and
for
Kimberly.
So
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
appreciated
that
I
felt
that
the
the
content
of
your
presentation
was
really
helpful
in
understanding
what
the
city
has
done
to
date,
but
I'm
not
clear
what
is
still
valid.
If
that
makes
sense
like
what
is
still
going
on
like
there
was
a
pilot.
E
You
know
there
were
hygiene
services,
but
I
know
those
got
dialed
back
so
I'm
wondering
what's
the
best
way
to
get
a
snapshot
of
what
is
happening
right
now.
What
is
still
active
right
now.
K
K
Now
now
that
we've
transitioned
from
covid,
although,
as
we
highlighted
for
you
in
the
memo,
we
have
recently
added
back
some
hygiene
services
at
our
CSA
and
Hope's
Corner
location,
and
then
our
main
focus
is
on
basic
programs
such
as
that
providing
hygiene
Services
there
funding
showers
at
Hope's
corner
and
then,
in
addition,
focused
on
safe
parking.
That's
really
our
core
area
that
we
are
working
right
now
on
to
expand,
and
so
the
only
programs
that
are
covered
in
our
memo.
That
was
a
LinkedIn
as
an
attachment,
as
well
as
the
overview
that
we
provided.
K
E
Okay,
thank
you
so
just
to
clarify
I
understand
that
the
the
porta
potties
have
been
installed
at
both
Hope's
corner
and
near
CSA.
The
majority
of
RV
dwellers
do
not
reside
near
those
areas.
So
I
am
wondering
about
the
possibility
of
and
I've
heard
this
from,
our
community-based
organizations
that
serve
our
vehicle
resident.
Neighbors
I'm
wondering
about
the
possibility
of
actually
putting
porta-potties
where
people
need
them
more
and
if
that
would
be
feasible.
K
That
is
something
that
the
city
did
look
at,
obviously,
for
during
covid
we
made
some
special
considerations
where
we
placed
upwards
of
8
to
11
different
locations
throughout
the
community,
and
at
this
time
we
have
studied
that
and
looked
at
that,
and
our
challenge
is
balancing
the
needs
of
the
overarching
neighborhoods
with
the
needs
of
our
living
and
vehicle
residents.
And
so
our
strategy
is
to
provide
those
restrooms
at
our
Key
Safety
Net
providers.
K
They
are
available,
24
7,
in
addition
to
all
the
city
facilities
that
are
open
during
dawn
to
dusk,
including
our
parks
and
other
locations
that
we
know
serve
our
homeless
population.
Our
strategy
is
to
focus
on
those
sites
and
those
sites.
Only
the
provision
of
restrooms
at
locations
is
something
that
is
relatively
limited
outside
of
the
city
of
San
Jose
San
Jose
does
provide
restroom
services
to
a
number
of
encampment
locations,
but
in
Mountain
View
thanks
to
the
efforts
of
our
PD
team,
we
don't
have
large
levels
of
encampments.
E
Okay,
all
right
so
I'll,
just
I,
guess
I'll
just
agree
to
disagree
that
put
people
within
RVs
can't
always
get
to
those
safety
net
locations
and
especially
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
If
I
live
over
on
Independence,
how
the
heck
am
I
supposed
to
get
over
to
Hope
and
mercy
to
use
the
restroom
right.
E
So
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
what
I'm,
seeing
at
degradation
in
our
treatment
of
our
resident
vehicle,
neighbors
and
hoping
that,
like
lack
like
not
treating
them
in
a
dignified
way-
and
this
is
an
example
of
that
I
mean
I-
see
the
during
the
day,
but
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
Where
are
you
going
to
go
to
the
bathroom
right
and
I?
E
Think
this
is
the
type
of
thinking
that
gets
people
to
say,
God
I
gotta
go
on
the
sidewalk,
then
the
business
complains
and
then
we
have
Warfare
on
our
streets,
which
is
what
I've
been
made
aware
of
both
in
my
role
as
a
community
member
and
as
a
member
of
or
as
someone
who
works
at
the
local
Foundation
and
I
I
really
I
would
really
encourage
us
to
think
about.
E
How
do
you
treat
people,
our
neighbors,
who
live
in
vehicles
with
dignity
and
and
you're
talking
about
meeting
them
where
they
are
well,
where
they
are?
Is
independence
and
Pioneer
right
among
other
places?
So
that's
my
first
question.
Thank
you
for
your
answer.
I
get
it
but
I'm
going
to
challenge
it.
K
You
know
appreciate
your
additional
feedback
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
drives
all
of
our
programs
from
the
services
that
we've
expanded
for
safe
parking
to
our
home
key
project
really
is
that
Dignity
of
wanting
to
serve
our
homeless
residents
I.
K
Think
one
of
our
challenges
with
something
like
placing
restrooms
in
the
rights
of
way
is
really
balancing
the
needs
of
our
community
within
the
neighborhood
within
with
also
with
our
homeless
residents,
and
so
we
do
our
best
to
balance
that
also
balancing
out
what
our
our
limited
resources
for
the
city
for
this
type
of
service
I
can
tell
you
that
in
a
larger
Regional
way.
This
is
something
that
our
teams
look
at,
including
conversations
with
the
county.
K
Looking
for
potential
opportunities
for
additional
funding
streams,
additional
ways
to
address
these
concerns,
but
what
we've
done
is
we
have
done
that
service
for
nearly
three
years
and
then
we
recently,
as
we've
noted,
have
added
the
additional
Services
back
at
the
two
prime
locations
that
are
our
safety
net
locations
in
Mountain
View.
E
Okay,
I
I
need
to
say
one
more
thing
with
respect.
The
needs
of
the
neighborhood
for
porta-potties
is
probably
nil.
The
need
for
those
neighborhoods
to
not
have
RV
neighbors
is
probably
high.
So
I
gotta
challenge
you
again:
Kimberly
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
buy
this
and
I'm
a
little
disappointed.
E
But
let
me
let
someone
else
go
for
it,
but
you
know
I'm
gonna
keep
fighting
for
our
neighbors,
because
not
all
of
them
have
a
voice
here
and
keep
going
but
porta
potties
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
when
you
have
kids
and
live
on
Independence.
That's
a
real
issue.
K
Okay,
I
I
agree,
and
thank
you
for
that
for
the
time
and
listening
to
my
response
appreciate
that
very
much
and
I
think
what
I
was
referencing
regarding
the
neighborhoods
is:
if
we
place
a
unit
in
a
neighborhood,
we
can
also
take
feedback
associated
with
that
that
we
are
trying
to
encourage
it
for
that
particular
location.
So
that's
something
that
we're
also
balancing
but
appreciate
your
comments.
A
Thank
you,
member
Sandy.
J
All
right
now,
I've
got
to
follow
ravida
good,
it's
good,
it's
good.
It's
getting
everyone
warmed
up
and
hello
Kimberly
long
time,
no
see!
Congratulations
on
your
promotion
to
assistant
manager,
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions.
Is
that
program
for
the
folks
who
live
in
the
vehicles
right
this
period
might
be
anyone
from
pretty
can
help
if
the
vehicle
is
not
in
proper
working
order.
Obviously
it
cannot
be
operational
and
used
it
and
they
can't
move.
It
is
their
plan
to
help
them
move
it
without
charging
them.
J
That's
number
one
number
two:
are
there
any
procedures
and
plans
to
say
check
on
the
safety
any
fire
hazards
they
might
have
because
some
of
them
cook
and
they
are
Vehicles
right?
So
that's
that's
very
important.
We
need
this
all
our
residents
of
any
kind
of
validated
vehicles
or
homes
or
anywhere
to
be
saved.
So
is
there
a
program
to
help
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
have
no
disaster
happens.
There
are
no
fires,
I
mean
that's
safety,
that's
the
first
part.
J
The
second
thing
is
now,
if
you
say,
you're,
72
hours
to
move
a
vehicle
and
I
move
around
the
blocking
pocket
in
the
same
place,
that's
the
second
thing
right
and
finally,
a
following
on
kabida's
thing
about
toilets
facilities.
Is
they
had
long-term
plan
how
to
provide
safe,
proper
sanitation,
toilets
with
dignity
to
all
these
folks?
Thank
you.
K
I
can
speak
to
the
fire
and
safety
related
information
and
then
Scott.
If
you
want
to
jump
in
on
that,
I
I
think
we've
spoken
to
the
sanitation
piece
and
I.
Think
briefly.
I
would
just
note
that
again
it's
an
ongoing
dialogue.
K
Looking
for
potential
funding
streams
and
opportunities,
it's
something
that
the
county,
as
well
as
our
local
supervisor
or
or
trying
to
look
at
solutions
for
so
that
is
that's
the
the
status
that
we
have
for
that
I
can
share
regarding
Outreach
for
providing
Communications
education
associated
with
how
to
live
safely
within
your
vehicle.
We
have,
for
a
number
of
years
provided
educational
materials
in
English
and
Spanish
that
highlight
ways
that
individuals
can
be
safe
within
their
units.
K
In
addition,
we
had
a
recent
fire
at
a
safe
parking
at
one
of
our
safe
parking
lots,
as
well
as
a
couple
that
occurred
in
our
public
right-of-way,
and
so
our
fire
department
did
do
a
couple
of
rounds
going
to
directly
to
our
residents
where
they
are
at
to
share
that
brochure
talk
with
them
about
safety,
any
questions
that
they
might
have
about
how
to
live
more
safely
within
their
units
and
then
on
an
ongoing
basis.
Jan
Leia
does
distribute
this
Inc.
K
This
information
associated
with
how
to
be
safe,
living
in
your
in
your
vehicle,
I'll
hand
it
to
Scott.
If
he
wants
to
speak
more
about
the
the
additional
question
for
the
police.
O
Department
yeah,
thank
you.
Kimberly
I
can
just
talk
about
the
72-hour
ordinance
and
how
that's
been
applied,
so
the
ordinance
does
require
the
vehicle
to
be
moved,
two
tenths
of
a
mile
or
a
thousand
feet,
and
the
interpretation
of
that
ordinance
and
the
legal
opinion
that
we've
been
given
is
that
that
vehicle
has
to
move
the
thousand
feet
and
not
return
to
the
same
location
and
I
understand
that
there
may
be
some
disagreement
on
that.
I
recognize
that
we've
discussed
that
with
some
Community
groups
and
folks.
O
We
understand
that
that
is
not
specified
in
the
code.
However,
that's
the
interpretation
that
we've
been
given
from
Council
from
our
legal
counsel:
that's
a
common
interpretation
with
other
cities
and
how
they
enforce
it
and
I.
Imagine
at
some
time
in
the
future,
there
may
be
an
update
to
the
ordinance
to
specify
that,
but
that's
how
we've
been
enforcing
it.
J
And
one
last
thing
talking
about
funding
Kimberly,
and
you
mentioned
that
there's
funding
which
is
needed
for
the
toilets
and
so
forth.
I'm,
not
trying
to
be
a
smart
ass
here,
but
I
buy
my
toiletries
from
a
company
great
company
called
whose
gives
a
crap
all
the
money
they
get.
50
goes
to
it's
an
Australian
company.
It's
also
in
the
U.S,
goes
to
building
toilets
in
places
where
they
aren't
right.
It's
obviously
the
third
world
I
think.
J
S
Hello,
thank
you
all
of
you
for
your
presentations
and
then,
of
course,
I
wrote
down
notes
with
the
first
part.
So
Kimberly,
it's
back
to
you
again,
I
think
you're
really
getting
it
tonight.
I'm
sorry,
but
my
questions
are
well.
Let
me
start
out
with
with,
secondly
or
thirteen
what
Kavita
said,
what
during
covet
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
who
had
public
restaurants
restrooms
closed
and
including
Mountain
View
at
Rengstorff,
which
drove
me
crazy
and
drove
everybody
crazy.
S
S
So
yeah
I
think
that
we
we
ought
to
do
a
little
better
on
the
bathroom
part.
So
my
questions
are
how
many
people
ask
for
help
and
don't
and
can't
get
it
that's
one
because
you
don't
have
any
place
for
them
or
what
and
I'm
talking
about
people
who
are
needing
shelter
and
when
you
say
somebody
sheltered
or
not
sheltered.
S
You
said
that
the
people
in
RVs
aren't
sheltered,
and
so
then
what
does
sheltered
mean
and
how
many
people,
what
percentage
of
people
don't
get
help.
So
those
are
my
those.
K
K
I'm
thinking
no,
no
thank
you
for
the
questions,
I
appreciate
it
and
then
the
opportunity
to
respond
the
ratio.
It
varies
from
program
to
program,
but
one
thing
that
I
can
tell
you
is
county-wide,
and
certainly
that
holds
true
for
the
city
of
Mountain
View.
There
is
not
a
lot
enough
capacity
within
the
overarching
homelessness
response
system
to
address
all
the
need,
so
on
average,
with
the
last
pit
count,
it
was
approximately
two
individuals
need
assistance
and
apply
for
assistance
for
every
one
placement.
K
The
prior
pit
was
upwards
of
three,
so
what
that
means
is
is
that
there
are
constantly
more
individuals
seeking
assistance
and
needing
assistance.
Then
the
system
can
provide,
and
that
would
be
Mountain
View,
but
also
the
14
other
cities
within
the
county.
So
it
is
a
real
Challenge
and
I
think
what
Mountain
View
has
done
in
a
major
way,
and
we
are
we
are
known
for
this.
K
Is
we
have
done
all
that
we
can
to
try
to
increase
that
capacity
of
both
the
Continuum
of
Care
Emergency
Sheltering,
safe
parking
on
down
to
larger
programs
that
our
housing
team
is
working
on
so
deeply,
including
the
upcoming
Crestview
property,
as
well
as
other,
affordable
housing
pipeline
one
other
component
I
would
share,
would
be
the
clarification
of
Sheltering
versus
unsheltered.
K
It's
really
just
a
way
for
you
to
understand
how
we
look
at
the
lens
for
providing
service,
and
that
would
be
sheltered,
meaning
you
have
some
form
of
a
fixed
structure
that
you
are
a
part
of
that
can
be
a
congregate,
shelter
or
an
interim
facility
like
project
home.
Key
life
moves
Mountain,
View
and
then
unsheltered
means
any
form
of
living
where
there
is
no
fixed
structure,
it
can
still
be
that
you
might
have
a
roof
or
an
RV
where
it
feels
more
like
a
home,
but
that
is
not
considered
to
be
sheltered.
I
H
N
You,
thanks
for
all
of
the
information
tonight.
N
I
was
wondering
about
the
communications
between
the
NES
unit
and
other
officers
that
may
need
to
respond
to
complaints,
because
I
had
heard
of
a
an
unfortunate
story
about
a
very
elderly
gentleman
who
had
his
vehicle
towed
and
it
you
know
looking
at
the
data,
it
was
likely.
One
of
the
two
that
were
cited
to
have
had
expired
plates,
but
what
I
had
heard
was
that
this
gentleman
had
the
had
the
indication
on
his
vehicle
that
he
had
been
working
with
Jen.
C
N
And
you
know
people
within
that
unit,
but
the
officer
responding
the
moment
had
said
you
know:
I,
don't
know
anything
about
that,
and
so
the
outcome
was
unfortunately
that
his
vehicle
was
towed.
And
you
know
this
is
an
elderly
gentleman.
That's
homeless
and
you
know,
doesn't
really
have
much
I
mean
already
living
in
a
vehicle.
You
don't
have
much
resources,
but
even
more
tragic
that
his
home
was
towed.
So
I'm
I'm
wondering
about
the
communication
between
Apartments
how's
that
been
facilitated.
M
I
could
take
that
one
to
start
off
with
communication
with
one
my
unit
of
overseeing
one,
our
field
operation
division
as
well
as
some
of
our
NES
units
will
be
till
we
meet
with
the
the
team
NES
and
our
community
service
officers
who
are
really
out
there
who
are
seeing
what
the
violations
are
on
the
enforcement
and
then
what
we
try
to
do
is
then
meet
with
other
units
to
include
our
Traffic
Unit
and
our
field
operation.
Division
to
really
have
that
line
of
communication.
M
If
there
is
an
individual
that
is
working
without
any
issue
in
it
to
provide
that
information.
If
there
is
some
one-offs
where
the
information
is
not
technically
received
or
there's
something
of
a
toe,
maybe
for
this
instance
and
obviously
McPherson-
maybe
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
her
process
after
the
fact.
M
But
then
the
we
will
then
try
to
reach
out
to
them
and
see
what
services
we
can
provide
and
on
those
instances
where
the
information
maybe
didn't
go
from
one
unit
to
another.
We
did
continue
to
meet
on
a
more
regular
basis
of
just
updating
of
not
just
the
process
but
also
individual
cases
and
talk
about
individual
cases.
So
it's
really
improving
our
communication
and
then
also
officer
McPherson.
Maybe
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
communication
that
she
had
or
has
along
this
line.
T
So
to
answer
the
question
in
regards
to
the
Outreach
after
the
fact,
I
continue
to
work
with
the
clients,
as
well
as
with
the
case
managers
since
I
do
more
of
the
Outreach
portion
of
my
job
I
reach
out
to
you
know
the
interim
housing
here
in
Mountain
View,
that's
run
by
live
moves
to
see
if
they
have
any
room
available
temporarily
to
house
the
the
gentleman
so
again
the
the
Outreach
was
done
after
the
fact
and
I
continued
to
work
with
the
community-based
organizations.
J
A
It
Vice
teacher
wing.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
for
your
presentation.
I
just
have
a
question
for
God
I
believe
regarding
I
know.
You
mentioned
that
sometimes
the
officers
are
now
moving
away
from
phase
two
and
the
pamphlets,
because
people
generally
know
the
information
I'm
wondering
if
that
means
that
the
time
frame
is
kind
of
still
the
same
where
they
have
the
initial
72
hours.
R
M
I'll
take
that
question.
So
what
we
are
doing,
we're
not
adding
the
three-phase
approach
actually
adds
an
extra
72
hours.
M
That's
not
necessarily
that's
just
to
make
it
so
the
officers
have
enough
time
to
get
all
those
phases
in,
so
that
would
be
eliminating
some
of
the
time,
but
typically
officers
aren't
making
it
right
out
for
enforcement
within
the
72
hours.
So
it's
it's
very
rare
that
it
would
be
a
semi-trailer
enforcement
right.
After
typically,
there
still
is
a
decent
amount
of
time
between
the
chalking
and
then
the
citations.
S
Thank
you,
I
the
story
about
the
old
guy
in
an
RV
who,
whose
RV
got
told
made
me
asked
some
questions,
because
a
whole
lot
of
what
we've
been
saying
today
is
is
all
in
the
abstract.
It's
all
in
the
passive
voice.
S
We
aren't
talking
about
people,
we're
talking
about
situations,
so
I
want
to
know
if
you,
if
anybody
knows
this,
did
the
old
guy,
who
was
told,
get
left
in
the
street
or
did
he
get
left
in
his
vehicle
and
did
he
get
towed
and
if
he
got
told
when
did
somebody
get
a
hold
of
him
and
I
understand
he's
being
helped
in
some
way?
Could
we
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
where
he's
living
now
and
what
happened
to
his
vehicle?
Did
he
get
it
out
of
the
out
of
the
clinker
or
what.
T
I
could
answer
that
for
you,
so
the
gentleman
is
currently
living
in
a
vehicle
in
a
van.
So
after
you
know,
obviously
there
was
some
sort
of
misimmunication
after
I
found
out
that
the
vehicle
was
towed.
I
immediately
contacted
the
shelter
we
did
offer
to
take
him
to
a
shelter
in
Sunnyvale,
but
he
refused
the
night
when
his
vehicle
was
stowed,
a
friend
of
his
offered
his
vehicle
for
him
to
stay
in
which
was
sparked
on
Escuela,
so
the
shelter
was
available
for
him.
T
However,
he
declined
to
go
to
a
shelter,
and
so
in
the
process
you
know
working
with
the
with
his
case
managers.
He
actually
worked
with
Maria
at
the
the
day,
Worker
Center.
Also
at
the
hopes
corner.
He
is
a
case
manager
there.
Her
name
is
Claire
Who,
provided
him
with
the
with
the
new
vehicle,
so
they
basically
gave
him
a
new
vehicle
as
a
donation,
so
he's
currently
living
in
a
a
workable
working
vehicle
he's
still
living
out
on
the
street.
T
But
you
know
it's
been
awkward
that
he
we
offered
him
to
go
to
the
safe
parking
and
also
to
you
know,
go
to
the
shelter
here
in
Mountain
View
the
transitional
housing
on
Leghorn,
but
he
declined
the
services.
Okay,
Bravo.
A
E
Sorry,
my
dog's
participating
I
had
two
two
more
questions.
One
was
I
know
we're
pursuing
Shoreline
Lot
B.
How
many
spaces
will
that
are?
Are
we
expecting
if
everything
goes
well,
how
many
spaces
will
open
up
there.
K
E
K
The
city
right
now
is
focused
on
creating
a
contiguous
program.
Live
Nation
we've
been
an
ongoing
conversation
with
them,
and
if
the
city
were
to
pursue
an
additional
safe
parking
lot,
it
would
need
to
be
somewhere
in
one
of
the
upper
portions
of
the
lot
and
we
would
need
to
pursue
that
negotiation
to
expand
it.
Even
further.
E
Okay
thanks
the
other
question
I
had
was
I,
think
it
was
Matt
who
may
have
mentioned
the
cost
of
all
of
this
chalking
and
sighting
and
yeah,
just
administering
all
everything
in
and
around
the
72-hour
rule,
which
was
not
part
of
the
measure
C
settlement
right,
that's
something
else.
E
I
am
wondering
about
that
cost
and
whether
you
know
what
it's
bringing
us
as
a
city
right
to
my
mind
and
what
I've
heard
in
my
role
at
the
Community
Foundation
and
just
being
a
concerned
citizen.
It
seems
that
if
we
could
use
the
cost
of
that
enforcement
to
actually
provide
more
services
to
the
people
living
in
vehicles
right
that
we
might
actually
decrease
the
number
of
complaints
and
deal
with
things
like
sewage,
other
unsanitary
or
biohazards
Etc.
E
E
I
right
now,
I
feel
that,
by
pursuing
this
72
hour,
the
ordinance
and
and
just
responding
to
complaints,
people
are
taking
it
upon
themselves
to
be
the
police
and
I,
don't
know
if
that's
healthy
for
our
community
I'd
rather
focus
our
efforts
and
our
City's
efforts
on
helping
the
people
that
are
already
here
right
to
live
in
some
dignity,
with
services
in
a
healthy
way,
in
a
well
way
in
a
safe
way,
not
only
for
the
people,
our
neighbors
who
reside
in
those
vehicles,
but
for
the
their
neighbors
on
the
street
and
right
now,
I
think
pursuing
this
72
hour
at
this
cost.
E
O
Yeah
I
can
just
comment
a
little
bit
on
that,
so
the
first
couple
months
we
did
receive
just
a
real
in
influx
of
complaints
regarding
areas
of
72-hour
violations.
O
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
going
out
in
October,
November
and
part
of
December,
but
the
last
probably
month
month
and
a
half,
those
complaints
have
really
slowed
down
and
I
think
that
was
highlighted
by
some
of
Lieutenant
Atkins
statistics
about
how
well
people
were
voluntarily
voluntarily
complying
with
chalking.
O
So
the
last
month
month
and
a
half
we've
been
spending
much
less
time,
going
out,
responding
to
complaints
and
doing
much
less
proactive
time
going
out
looking
for
72-hour
violations
just
because
people
have
been
voluntarily
complying
with
that
that
ordinance.
A
Thank
you.
Can
we
want
to
speak.
A
Very
good,
thank
you.
Member
okay,.
N
Sorry
complications
with
unreading.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
had
one
more
question.
This
might
be
for
Captain
Nelson.
N
Oh
you
mentioned
you
know,
Vehicles
needing
to
move
a
thousand
feet
from
the
location
after
they've
been
shocked,
and
so
I'm
like
wondering
like.
What's
the
timeline
on
that
like?
Are
they
not
allowed
to
return
to
the
same
location
like
ever
after
24
hours?
72
like
what's
what
are
the
specifics?
Okay,.
O
So,
let's
say
I
guess:
I
could
try
to
give
you
an
example
like
let's
say
we
go
out
there
and
put
chalk
around
the
vehicle
and
sometime
before
72
hours,
they
move
and
they
don't
return
to
that
spot.
You
know
I
mean
they
could
even
Park
a
couple
spots
away,
but
they're
not
returning
to
that
same
spot.
O
The
code
doesn't
specify
how
long
they
have
to
stay
there.
So
are
you
talking
to
say,
move
to
another
location?
How
long
can
they
can
come
back
until
the
exact
same
location.
N
O
As
long
as
they
don't
come
back
to
the
same
spot
that
they
were
parked
in
and
one
of
the
things
that
our
our
parking
enforcement
csos
do
is
they
do
chalk?
They
also
take
photographs
of
the
vehicles
they
chalked,
so
they
can
go
back
and
reference
that
photo.
I
I
I
just
have
a
question
for
can
really
kind
of
moving
away
from
the
current
details,
I'm
wondering
what
the
needs
of
programs
that
are
helping
these
the
vehicle,
housed,
individuals
or
families,
move
towards
alternative
or
transitional
housing
lives.
So
for
the
the
programs
that
currently
exist,
what
are
some
some
some
things
that
would
kind
of
help.
I
guess.
K
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I.
Think
one
of
the
key
things
we
highlighted
in
our
presentation
is
the
ability
to
do
Outreach
and
to
reach
residents,
and
let
them
know
that
we'd,
ideally
like
them
to
be
assessed
and
become
a
part
of
the
County's
overarching
system.
One
of
the
things
that
that
allows
are
our
vehicle
residents
to
to
do
is
to
get
you
know
essential
basic
Services
right
away
like
medical
care,
but
also
longer
term
to
be
able
to
be
placed
in
permanent
Supportive
Housing
and
receive
vouchers.
K
So
that's
a
really
really
key
piece
and
that's
something
that
we're
focusing
on
future
efforts
more
deeply
on
as
we
are,
as
we
talked
about
increasing
that
Pipeline
and
we
want
to
ensure
opportunities
such
as
Crestview
are
local
Mountain
View
residents
have
the
ability
to
ensure
that
they're
on
the
Queue
to
to
be
considered
for
those
placements.
So
that's
really
one
of
the
core
things,
and
so,
if
you're
ever
having
conversations
with
individuals
that
you
know
who
are
in
these
difficult
situations
is
sharing
that
that's
an
opportunity
they
can
call
CSA.
K
K
Okay,
yes,
yes,
do
you
have
access
to
County,
it's
called
the
county
q
and
that
is
where
resources
are
managed
to
be
able
to
assist
our
homeless
individuals
in
the
county.
Thank.
I
G
As
far
as
the
safe
watch
thing
goes,
I
kind
of
routinely
drive
by
the
one
on
Shoreline
I'm,
just
not
certain
how
that
works.
I
do
notice
that
they
do
have
water
I,
think
there
are
porta,
potties
and
I
do
occasionally
see
a
I
think
CSA
might
sponsor
it,
or
some
other
entity
brings
a
shower
a
shower
facility
down.
There
is
that
is
that
has
some
of
those
benefits
been
taken
away?
G
What
specific
benefits
are
provided
for
these
safe
flights
versus
you
know
the
benefits
that
you've
taken
away
in,
say
other
areas
of
the
city.
With
regards
to
toilet,
you
know
facilities
to
go
to
the
bathroom.
L
I
can
take
that
one
Kimberly
and
then
maybe
you
can
thank
you.
I,
don't
know
if
I
missed
anything
yeah,
sure
so
great
question.
So
we
do
have
on-site
restrooms,
Ada,
accessible
restrooms
for
participants
at
our
safe
parking
program
sites,
all
three
of
them,
not
just
the
shoreline
one
and
then
I
believe
the
the
shower
services
that
you
may
be
referring
to
are
provided
by
a
non-profit
provider
called
dignity
on
Wheels
Dow.
L
So
they
provide
mobile
showers
and
laundry
services,
so
they
physically
come
with
a
truck
on
site
to
Shoreline
and
then
offer
those
Services
specific
to
those
safe
parking
program.
Participants
at
Shoreline,
but
also
at
other
safe
parking
program
sites
and
then,
in
addition,
I
think,
I
had
mentioned
earlier.
L
We
have
Valley
Healthcare
their
homeless
program,
they'll
provide
Medical
Care,
they
have
a
doctor
that
can
come
on
site
and
check
out
anyone
who
needs
immediate
attention
and
then,
as
well
as
our
various
safety
net
providers
like
CSA,
can
also
provide.
You
know
a
variety
of
services
as
well
as
some
of
the
smaller
organizations
such
as
reach
potential
movement,
do
a
lot
of
great
work,
whether
it's
providing
school
supplies,
backpacks
books,
things
like
that.
So
I
hope
that
helps
and
I
can.
K
K
Prenina,
that
was
great
I,
think
the
one
thing
I'd
add
to
that
is
that
the
shower
truck
also
includes
washer
and
dryer
Services
yeah,
so
that
our
our
clients
can
can
process
their
laundry.
In
addition,
we
do
provide
water
on
site,
and
that
was
something
that
was
facilitated
during
covet
19..
It
was
a
big
challenging
and
wonderful
Venture
by
our
Public
Works
and
utilities
Crews
that
helped
get
water
to
all
of
our
sites.
There
are
three
that
we
operate
and
provide
continuous
Water.
K
Services
too
I
would
also
share
that
the
provider
move
Mountain
View
Works
hand
in
hand
with
the
community-based
organizations
that
also
deliver
food
provide
other
services,
but
really
the
core
of
safe
parking
is
a
theme
that
you've
heard
us
speak
about
a
fair
amount
is
we
do
require
case
management
and
that
case
management
for
each
each
household
that
lives
in
the
vehicle
is
really
essential
to
getting
them
to
a
place
of
increased
stability
and
to
determining
what
the
next
best
step
would
be
for
their
family.
G
G
Is
it
a
limitation
on
Spaces,
or
is
it
a
fact
that
people
that
are
used
to
living
on
the
streets
just
are
kind
of
apprehensive
about
being
accounted
for
in
a
location
like
that?
Is
it
all
of
the
above,
like.
K
I
think
it
can
be
a
combination
of
that
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
have
tried
over
many
many
years
is
to
really
establish
that
trust
link.
You
know,
through
the
work
that
Jen
lay
on
her
team,
do
daily
and
Scott
Thomas
out
there
outreaching
to
our
lived
in
vehicle
residents.
You
know
a
lot
of
what
they
are
doing
is
bridge
building
and
building
those
relationships,
and
that's
that's
really
important
and
I
think
that
that's
a
key
piece
of
it
I
think
one
thing
also
would
be.
K
Obviously
the
capacity
issue
is
something
that
we're
challenged
by
across
programs,
so
our
cold
weather
shelter
program
doesn't
have
enough
capacity.
Our
safe
parking
program
doesn't
have
enough
capacity,
so
those
are
definite
challenges
for
all
cities
and
most
counties
within
the
state
of
California.
G
Okay,
I
just
have
maybe
two
more
things:
I
personally
live
on.
You
know
an
extra
wide
street
that
doesn't
allow
for
mobile
homes
to
park
on
it,
but
I
have
experienced
neighbors
that
are
a
little
more
eagle-eyed
as
a
to
a
specific
RVs
that
are
parking
in
the
area
and
whether
or
not
they're
there
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
Or
you
know,
if
they're
going
the
bathroom
on
the
street
or
whatever
I,
don't
know,
I
I
personally,.
G
You
know,
but
there
definitely
are
some.
It
seems
some
neighborhood
groups,
I
I,
you
know
I
try
not
to
be
too
critical.
That
are
just
very.
This
is
kind
of
like
an
alarm
Bell
for
them.
They're
just
constantly
like
trying
to
go
after
these
people
and
I
just
I,
don't
know
I,
I,
I
I,
don't
know
how
you
balance.
I
guess.
This
is
why
we
have
you
know
your
two
people
kind
of
managing
this
and
trying
to
do
the
best.
G
It's
such
a
complicated
situation,
but
yeah
I,
just
I,
just
want
to
say
it's.
It's
great
that
you're
doing
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
I
think
it's
an
impossible
situation
to
balance
some.
You
got
some
neighbors
that'll
like
just
get
all
of
these
people.
Out
of
here.
You
know
and
some
that
are
you
know
a
little
more
like
these
are
people
you
know,
and
you
know
treat
them
with
dignity,
which
is
what
I
think
they
deserve.
So
I'm,
not
really
having
a
question
I.
G
Guess
it's
more
of
a
commentary
and
then
I
have
just
one
last
thing
with
regards
to
you
know
the
old
guy
that
got
his
vehicle
towed
because
of
I
think
it
might
have
been
a
lack
of
insurance.
G
Me
personally,
I
was
recently
involved
in
a
bicycle
accident
with
a
vehicle
where
I
fractured
my
wrist
and
I'm.
Pretty
certain
the
guy
didn't
have
insurance.
G
You
know,
and
we
kind
of
came
to
some
Gentleman's
Agreement
I
think
this
would
be
more
of
a
question
to
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department.
Is
there
one
in
Massachusetts
where
I'm
come
from
here
you,
you
couldn't
get
a
car
on
the
road
unless
you
had
a
stamp
from
the
insurance
company
that
that
said,
you
had
a
policy
it.
It
seems.
A
lot
easier
out
here
to
have
a
car
on
the
road
and
not
have
insurance
is.
Is
that
the
case.
O
I
could
just
give
you
a
general
comment
on
that.
I
I,
don't
believe
that
incident
had
anything
to
do
with
the
insurance.
So.
O
In
California,
we
don't
tow
vehicles
for
not
having
insurance,
they
could.
They
can
receive
a
correctable
fix
it
ticket
Citation
for
no
insurance,
but
we
don't
toe
for
not
having
insurance.
O
Correct
I
believe
you
can
show
your
proof
of
insurance
to
DMB
when
you
register
it,
but
if
that
insurance
lapses,
I
don't
think
they
go
out
and
proactively
suspend
your
your
registration
I
could
be
wrong
there,
but.
U
V
O
G
Okay,
I
I
mean
and
I
know,
for
people
that
are
on
the
street
with
RVs
that
that's
a
barrier
like
another
bill.
That
would
be
a
problem
and
if
they're
not
moving,
is
there
really
a
reason
they
need
insurance,
but
I,
don't
know
for
my
my
own
selfish
perspective,
I
somewhat
think
people
should
all
be
in
short,
if
they're
operating
a
vehicle
if
they
can
kill
someone,
but
you
know
that's
just
my
commentary
thanks
for
your
time.
N
We
are
two
different
people
anyway,
I'm
sorry
I'm,
just
ripping
you
go.
F
N
It
to
my
to
my
previous
question
so
see:
I
have
a
friend
who
you
know
has
a
vehicle
and
sometimes
parks
on
the
street,
but
you
know.
Sometimes
the
vehicle
is
on
the
street
for
like
a
little
longer
because
they
enjoy
the
benefits
of
living
in
a
walkable
and
bikeable
Community
and
say
this.
This
vehicle
is
sometimes
a
little
messy,
it
might
look
like
they
live
in
the
vehicle,
but
they
actually.
C
N
But
that's
beside
the
point
but
say
like
a
neighbor
like
called
about
the
vehicle
and
it
got
chalked
and
say
this
vehicle
is
usually
parked
in.
I
C
O
So
you're
saying
like
the
vehicle
is
parked
in
a
certain
location.
It
gets
chalked
the
vehicle
moves.
It
doesn't
come
back
to
that
exact
same
spot.
When
could
they
go
back
to
that
exact
same
spot?.
O
Yeah
I
would
say
the
easiest
way
to
avoid
any
confusion
or
any
issue.
There
is
the
Chalk's
on
the
ground.
They'll
make
just
don't
park
right
there.
If
you
can
park
two
or
three
feet
forward
so
you're
outside
of
those
chalk
lines.
That
would
certainly
make
it
a
little
bit
less
confusion
for
the
your
friend
and
would
certainly
help
out
the
officers
going
out
there.
But
to
give
you
that
answer,
you
know
I
think
if
it
would
be
very
difficult
for
us,
we
don't
keep.
O
So
it's
really
tough
to
give
you
that
definitive,
like
park
in
that
spot
I
would
just
suggest
for
everybody's
easing
this
you
make
them.
Have
that
friend
move
a
couple
feet
from
where
their
original
spot
was
I,
think
that'd
be
reasonable
and
you
can
always.
If
somebody
does
get
a
citation,
they
can
always
come
down
to
the
department
and
there's
a
little
form
they
fill
out
and
they
can
contest
it.
If
they
have
some,
you
know
if
they
have
a
photo
of
their
own
or
they'd
like
to
explain
their
situation.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
even
I
would
I
would
name
drop
Captain
Nelson
when
you
move
your
car.
Oh
sorry,
your
friend's
car
two
feet
so.
O
E
E
E
O
So
I
can
answer
that
I,
don't
know
the
specifics
for
that
incident.
But,
yes,
if
a
vehicle
is
on
the
roadway,
we
can
we're
allowed
to
run
the
license
plate
for
registration
generally.
What
will
kind
of
prompt
an
officer
to
do
so
is
that
they
see
the
registration
tab.
That's
expired.
That
would
usually
prompt
them
to
run
the
license
plate
to
see
if
it
is
expired,
and
they
can
either
do
that
over
the
computer
in
their
car
or
over.
The
radio.
E
Okay,
so
I
understand
that
you
can
get
towed
it
through
that
process
of
if
you're
not
compliant
through
all
the
warnings
and
things
for
the
narrow
streets
for
the
72
hours
expired
tags.
Slash
registration.
O
E
O
O
That
would
be
a
citation
that
falls
under
the
same
same
thing
as
a
narrow
street,
so
it
would
be
a
citation
and
then
within
72
hours
it
could
be
a
tow
okay.
O
The
vehicle
can
be
towed
from
Street
flu
media
and
a
couple
rules
there
has
to
be.
There
has
to
be
signed
that
effect.
E
Okay,
great
thank
you
for
for
clarifying
that
and
then
my
last
question
is
how
how
do
you
know
if
a
vehicle
is
not
functional,
so
if
they,
if
people
are
not
physically
able
to
tow
it,
is
it
if,
if
they
just
leave
a
a
note
or
right,
say,
say,
officer,
McPherson
is
not
involved
in
the
communication,
for
whatever
reason,
though,
I
I
think
most
people
know
her
and
work
with
her.
E
O
I
think
the
best
answer
to
that
is
it
depends
every
the
community
service
officers
that
do
primarily
the
abandoned
vehicle
enforcement.
They
have
a
whole
series
of
things.
They
try
to
do
to
contact
the
owners
of
the
vehicle,
whether
it
be
an
RV
or
boat.
They
take
pictures
of
it.
They
look
for
things
like
cobwebs
on
the
door
handles
and
cobwebs
on
the
tires
to
see
if
they
haven't
been
moved,
they
go
out
there
in
different
parts
of
the
day,
different
times
of
the
day.
O
Different
days
of
the
week,
we
have
the
warning
notifications,
like
kind
of
these
yellow
tabs
that
are
yellow
stickers
and
we'll
put
that
on
parts
of
the
doorway
that
we
can
tell
if
they've
opened,
the
doorway
or
not
the
abandoned
vehicle,
I
believe
it's
seven
days
from
when
they
give
the
notice
to
when
it
can
be
towed.
O
Just
given
our
our
staffing
levels
and
the
time
that
it
takes
to
confirm-
usually
it's
well
past,
seven
days
before
they're,
even
able
to
tow
the
vehicle
or
cite
it
so,
it's
kind
of
a
variety
of
ways
that
they
try
to
determine
that
they'll
talk
to
other
people
that
are
inhabited
their
vehicles
in
the
area
talk
to
neighbors.
So
it's
kind
of
just
a
combination
of
things
before
they
make
that
determination.
Okay,
thanks.
G
All
right
I'll
be
done
after
this
one.
With
regards
to
you
know
public
bathrooms,
it
seems
to
be
here,
you
know
an
issue
across
the
board.
As
far
as
some
of
these
people
living
in
vehicles,
I
I,
know,
San
Francisco
has
those
ones
that
are
like
self-cleaning.
They
only
put
a
few
of
them
out.
G
I
think
they
became
a
Haven
for
kind
of
drug
addicts,
and
maybe
you
know
I
I
do
know
they
open
every
30
seconds
or
something
like
that
or
every
five
minutes
has
a
Mountain
View
looked
into
stuff
like
that
or
what
are
the
detractors?
What
you
know,
yeah.
K
I
can
briefly
respond
to
that
back
in
2017
there
was
a
deeper
review
of
the
various
hygiene
needs
when
we
had
a
stakeholder
group
looking
at
that
on
behalf
of
the
council
and
at
the
time
various
things
were
looked
at,
there
were
some
environmental
composting
restrooms
other
types
of
strategies
that
are
out
there.
K
I
think
what
one
of
the
key
challenge
that
comes
up
with
that
is
is
a
site
that
would
be
be
conducive
to
that,
but
at
that
time,
in
our
case,
we
pursued
a
number
of
other
options,
which
was
you
know,
trying
to
pursue
other
programs
such
as
safe
parking
at
the
time
to
give
folks
a
more
programmatic
oriented
environment
with
which
to
to
get
some
stability.
K
A
Very
well
looks
like
we
are
done
and
it's
time
for
public
comment.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
ask
questions
and
we
have.
A
Yeah
I'm,
coming
back
to
you
guys
so
I
lost
my
questions
at
the
end.
So
I
have
a
couple
hands
up.
You
have
two
minutes:
Mr
McKenzie.
F
Hi
all
thanks
for
the
really
Lively
discussion
and
asking
a
lot
of
important
questions
and
learned
a
bit.
I'll
highlight
one
thing
that
I
heard
during
the
presentation
which
I
liked
a
lot
that
there
was
the
transition,
hiring
someone
closing
out
a
sworn
officer
role
in
hiring
someone
else
not
having
police
deal
with
people.
Unsheltered
people
unhoused
people
trying
to
avoid
criminalizing
poverty,
I
think
is
a
great
step
and
I
just
want
to
Echo
the
comment
or
concern
about
where
we're
actually
spending
our
resources.
F
Having
people
go
out
and
Mark
chalk
and
spend
spend
so
much
time.
It
seems
like
a
really
as
a
citizen
of
the
city.
I,
don't
really
like
that
as
an
investment
of
resources,
when
these
are
people
in
need
and
just
with
regards
to
the
enforcement
of
72
hours,
it
is
completely
different
from
measure
C.
It's
an
unrelated
ordinance
and
my
understanding
from
having
read
postings
on
the
city.
There
are
two
things
that
make
the
enforcement
process
kind
of
I'm
I,
don't
quite
understand
how
it
complies
with
the
the
ordinance
itself.
F
The
ordinance
says,
move
1000,
feet
and,
and
the
odometer
will
be
a
valid
Mark
of
that,
which
would
mean
someone
could
move
and
return
to
the
exact
same
spot
if
they
were
willing
to
show
the
odometer,
which
itself
is
a
whole
privacy
issue
separately,
but
that
the
letter
of
the
law
does
not
seem
consistent
with
what
is
the
enforcement
procedure
and
the
spirit
of
the
law
that
at
least
when
I
read
it
a
few
months
ago.
F
It
said
it
was
about
an
abandoned
vehicle
thing
to
try
to
keep
the
public
right-of-way
if
a
vehicle
has
been
abandoned
by
definition.
If
someone
is
living
in
it,
it's
not
an
abandoned
vehicle,
so
it
seems
the
enforcement
process
that
is
has
just
been
outlined
is
contrary
to
both
the
letter
and
the
spirit
of
the
law.
So
I'm
a
little
confused
about
that
and
I'll.
Just
also
note
that
one
person
who
had
their
vehicle
towed
here
for
the
them
it
doesn't
seem.
A
Next,
we
have
Zoom
PA
United.
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Marguerite
I
live
on
Ortega
Avenue,
which,
after
the
oversized
vehicle
settlement,
is
one
of
the
longest
sections
of
Street
in
Mountain
View,
where
oversized
Vehicles
can
park
and
I'm
one
of
the
community
members
whose
desires
Kimberly
Thomas
mentioned
needing
to
be
balanced
with
those
living
in
their
vehicles.
U
This
is
especially
important
given
the
scarcity
of
parking
spots
available
to
oversized
Vehicles
as
a
result
of
the
Narrow
Street
ordinance.
The
72-hour
rule
is
really
about
abandoned
vehicles,
as
Tim
McKenzie
said,
and
people
living
in
their
vehicles
are
clearly
not
abandoning
those
Vehicles
number
three.
Three,
some
people
living
in
our
views
struggle
to
move
their
vehicles
because
of
necessary
repairs,
but
they
can
afford
those
repairs,
so
sometimes
those
repairs
cost
over
ten
thousand
dollars,
which
is
prohibitive,
I
think
probably
for
for
all
of
us.
U
Even
when
services
such
as
showers,
laundry
restrooms
Etc
are
not
in
walking
distance.
These
people
are
effectively
unable
to
access
these
access
these
services,
and
this
speaks
to
the
necessity
of
bringing
services
to
the
people
that
need
them
rather
than
requiring
those
people
to
move
in
order
to
access
them.
Highlighting
again,
my
call
for
a
porta
potty
or
permanent
restroom
at
Klein,
Park
number
four
reallocate
funding
away
from
talking
and
enforcement
of
the
72-hour
Rule
and
use
that
funding
instead
to
prioritize
more
services.
U
Lastly,
with
regard
to
the
high
number
of
complaints
against
oversized
Vehicles
violating
various
rules,
I'd
like
to
use
to
add
useful
context
there,
when
someone
is
in
need
of
services,
they
call
the
various
hotlines
that
the
city
provides
for
unstably
housed.
Community
members
and
the
city
keeps
track
of
how
many
requests
for
Aid
there
are
and
when
someone
is
upset
about
oversized
Vehicles,
they
call
the
police
hotline.
As
Derek
LinkedIn
mentioned.
There
are
people
who.
A
H
Hi
there
thanks
so
much
for
all
the
conversation
tonight
definitely
learned
a
ton
from
your
presentation
and
all
the
interesting
comments
and
questions
that
have
just
been
shared
so
far,
I
really
appreciate
the
compassionate
approach
and
the
fact
that
every
single
you
know
person
seems
to
be
approaching
this
issue
with
compassion
for
folks
who
need
support
and
I
also
think
we
can
continue
to
do
more.
We
can
continue
to
improve
I'm,
hesitant
to
ever
rest
on
our
Laurels
by
The.
Narrative
of
we
seem
to
be
doing
more
than
our
neighbors.
H
That's
not
a
sign
that
we
can
back
off,
but
maybe
that
other
folks
should
continue
to
step
up
and
I've
heard
so
many
great
ideas
for
how
to
further
improve
our
response
to
this
issue
in
our
community.
So
thanks,
everyone
for
sharing
all
those
I
heard
a
rumor
that
there
was
a
residential
parking
permit
program
that
had
been
either
floated
but
never
created
or
created,
but
never
implemented
and
I
was
curious.
H
If
anyone
in
the
city
could
speak
to
this
or
had
heard
of
this
just
because
it
seems
like
it
could
possibly
be
a
more
powerful
incentive
for
vehicle
residents
to
be
assessed
with
the
city,
I
think
it
was
kind
of
early
Thomas.
You
mentioned
that
the
city
is
interested
in
having
these
residents
be
assessed
to
access
things
like
County
Services,
Medical,
Services
programs
like
Crestview
and
lice
moves.
H
Well,
it
seems,
like
these
residents
may
not
be
interested
in
Crestview
and
life
moves,
but
if
they
would
be
interested
in
a
residential
parking
program
that
would
allow
them
to
stay
put
without
being
hassled
and
let
mvpd
officers
do
other
job
responsibilities
rather
than
all
this
hassle
of
enforcement
and
shocking.
It
just
seems
to
me
like
there
could
be
a
mutually
beneficial
solution
if
we
were
to
look
into
a
residential
parking
program
that
includes
all
MV
residents,
vehicle
residents
and
non-vehicle
residents
alike.
H
So
just
curious,
if
any
looking
into
that
had
happened,
I'm,
not
timing,
myself,
so
I
don't
know
where
I
am
in
my
two
minutes,
but
my
other
question
is
I
heard
it
rephrased
a
bunch
that
communication
is
being
improved
between
different
departments
regarding
enforcement
and
that
the
goal
is
to
always
forward
things
through
officer
McPherson
to
do
this
direction
on
the
less
expensive
Community
Partners
for
towing.
But
my
curiosity
is
in
moments
when
that
communication
is,
is
not
possible
to.
V
Hey
friends
been
a
while,
so
I
got
a
few
issues,
but
not
enough
for
public
comment,
so
the
ordinance
itself
talks
about
parking
in
excess
of
72
consecutive
hours,
and
it
mentions
consecutive
also
in
the
text
of
section
19.72.
V
N
V
Know
moving
a
short
distance
like
moving
the
vehicle,
a
short
distance
and
the
fact
that
it
references
the
odometer
means
it
does
not
actually
talk
about
the
spot
or
being
in
the
spot
of
returning
the
spot.
V
It
implies
strongly
that
it
is
a
matter
of
circulation
of
actually
moving
the
vehicle
throughout
the
town,
a
thousand
feet
which
does
not
prohibit
moving
to
the
same
spot
and
that
interpretation,
I,
don't
think,
is
in
the
text
or
any
interpretation
of
the
text
that
I
could
find
abandoned
vehicle
thing,
not
working
on
streets,
because
they're
considered
highways
is
its
own.
Weird
part
of
the
code
anyway,
I'll
get
to
the
point.
Kimberly
I
think
we're
doing
good
things
in
the
city.
I
like
that.
V
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that's
being
offered
but
gating
Services
behind
signing
out
going
to
shelters
or
engaging
case
management
or
other
kind
of
things
feels
very
coercive.
It
doesn't
feel
like
you're,
actually
respecting
people
and
their
dignity
and
autonomy
and
giving
them
a
choice
of
how
they
live
their
lives,
but
instead
dictating
how
they
should
live
and
how
they
should
want
to
engage
with
the
city
or
housing.
V
It
just
feels
very
disrespectful
to
individuals
who
otherwise
might
just
want
to
live
in
a
car
because
other
comfortable,
that's
the
choices
they
they
should
be
allowed
to
make,
but
also
have
a
bathroom
that
they
can
get
to
at
a
reasonable
time.
They
might
not
want
to
have
to
deal
with
safe
parking
or
people
in
safe
parking
or
the
location
of
the
parking
lots
and
that's
something
that
they
should
be
allowed
to
choose
because
of
people.
Yep
bye.
E
Okay,
I
wasn't
swearing,
really
I
wasn't
so
Mr
Frank
you're
you're,
chair,
Frank,
you're,
gonna
wrap
us
all
up
right.
I
was
gonna
seed,
my
spot
to
you,
but
you're
gonna,
be
the
very
last
word
correct.
E
E
Maybe
I'll
start
there
and
then
I
want
to
pick
up
on
some
of
the
public
comment
that
I
want
to
find
out
a
little
more
about
Captain
Canfield
you
and
I
chatted
about
The,
Parks
and
Rec
Department
talking
about
reducing
public
bathroom
hours
because
of
an
influx
in
graffiti,
especially
hate
graffiti,
in
park
bathrooms,
and
so
they
were
talking
about
reducing
the
hours
that
public
bathrooms
were
going
to
be
open.
Have
you
heard
any
more
on
that
and
is
that
going
forward.
Q
I
have
not
heard
anything
more
on
it.
It's
certainly
something
that
we
can
follow
up
on
and
see
what
actions
have
been
taken.
But
I
do
know
that
graffiti
and
vandalisms
in
the
bathroom
was
an
important
issue
to
the
the
parks
department
and
to
the
police
department
and
to
a
lot
of
members
of
the
the
community
in
which
it
was
happening.
Q
But
certainly
I
can
Circle
back
and
find
out
what
action
has
been
taken
and
if
it's
been
taken
when
they
anticipate
that
going
back
to
normal
and
what
the
plan
is
moving
forward.
But
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
you
right
now:
okay,
I'd.
E
Like
to
understand
that,
because
I
do
think
that
people
make
a
correlation
between
keeping
bathrooms
open,
24
hours
is
that
the
person
in
the
vehicle
who's
walking
with
her
kid
to
the
bathroom
is
the
one
doing
the
graffiti
and
there's
actually
and
I
learned
this
from
Tom
Myers
at
CSA,
there's
no
correlation
between
keeping
bathrooms
open
longer
and
graffiti.
If
people
are
gonna
do
graffiti,
they
will
find
a
time
to
do
graffiti,
but
that's
not
mean.
Does
that
doesn't
mean
our
neighbors?
Who
live
in
vehicles?
Are
the
ones
doing
the
graffiti?
E
So
I
want
to
point
that
out?
Okay,
so
my
request
for
porta
potties
has
doubled
since
I
heard
from
Marguerite
I
think
we
should
have
a
porta
potty
over
at
Independence
and
Pioneer
and
over
there,
and
we
should
have
a
porta
potty
at
Klein
Park.
So
now,
I'm
gonna
be
I'm
gonna,
be
taking
that
forward
and
being
loud
about
that
I'm
curious
about
this
residential
parking
program
did
we
have
one
did
we
consider
one
I
didn't
fully
understand?
Is
there?
Is
there?
E
K
Sure
I
think
the
context
of
what
was
raised
here
was
a
residential
parking
Pro
permit
program.
The
city
of
Mountain
View
has
a
residential
parking
permit
program
that
is
functional
for
fixed
housing
residents
that
live
within
fixed
housing
and
then
the
city
a
number
of
years
back
in
1718
around
the
time,
I
was
looking
at
a
variety
of
other
Solutions.
K
I
did
look
deeply
at
whether
you
could
permit
particular
locations
for
residents
who
wouldn't
be
in
a
fixed
unit,
but
would
be
in
a
mobile
unit,
and
that
was
deemed
at
that
time
to
be
not
something
that
would
be
legal
in
that
context.
K
Very
various
gradations
for
that
I'm,
not
an
attorney,
but
there
was
staff
reports
that
discussed
that,
and
so
again
a
variety
of
other
strategies
were
approved
and
pursued,
and
those
are
what
what
we
we've
been
working
on
for
the
last
number
of
years.
Thank.
K
E
Anything
that
has
been
previously
published
from
there
I
would
like
to
make
available
because
I
I
find
this.
The
thought
intriguing
I
just
want
to
understand,
what's
been
explored
so
far
so
I'm,
not
you
know
talking
about
the
same
thing
that
we
know
gets
to
a
dead
end.
I,
don't
want
to
waste
people's
time
that
way.
So
that
would
be
amazing
if
that
could
happen.
E
So
there
was
a
question
and
then
that
I
was
interested
in
so
all
roads
lead
to
officer.
Mcpherson
is
what
I
understood
what
happens
if
communication
does
not
lead
there
and
it
goes
astray
or
goes
I
think
that
was
what
Miss
PD
was
trying
to
get
to
and
I'm
I'm
interested
in
that
what
happens?
Does
you
know,
if
is
Officer
McPherson
brought
in
for
every
case,
or
you
know
what
happens
when
officer
McPherson
is
not
involved.
O
So
we
definitely
try
to
have
redundancy
in
the
department
so
officer
McPherson,
is
you
know
the
lead
community
outreach
officer,
but
she
also
works
closely
with
Scott
Thomas
Sergeant
Scott
Thomas,
with
Lieutenant
Atkins
and
I
can
say.
We
have
had
dozens
of
meetings
over
the
last
couple
months
between
the
NES
unit,
the
Traffic
Unit
parking
enforcement
officers,
community
service
officers
just
trying
to
figure
out
internally
how
we
were
going
to
sort
through
this.
What
type
of
process
we're
going
to
use
for
talking
what
type
of
process
we're
going
to
use
for
communication.
O
So
it's
been,
it's
really
been
a
work
in
progress
for
us.
You
know,
we've
had
to
change
how
we
do
things.
We've
had
to
change
communication.
So
when
things
like
that
come
up,
I
think
we
handle
it
the
way
most
businesses
or
organizations.
Would
we
get
all
the
correct
people
in
the
room
and
we
try
to
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
fix
it.
O
So
it
doesn't
happen
again
next
time
and
whether
that
includes
you
know,
officers
and
other
units
need
to
know
that
they
can
reach
out
to
not
only
chin
Leia,
but
if
she's
not
available,
they
can
go
to
Scott
Thomas.
If
he's
not
there,
they
can
go
to
Matt
Atkins.
So
just
letting
people
know
what
the
resources
are.
If
the
the
usual
person
isn't
available,
but
yeah
I
mean
we.
We
just
we've
had
a
lot
of
meetings
and
we
try
to
make
sure
people
know
where
to
go.
E
A
Hey
looks
like
that's
everyone.
I
just
had
I
have
a
couple
questions
of
my
own
first
Kimberly
you
mentioned.
There's
three
lots
and
I
wasn't
aware
that
there
was
three
I
thought.
There
was
only
two
that
Shoreline
and
Evelyn.
Where
is
the
third.
K
The
additional
line
is
on
tarabella,
so
we
have
the
two.
We
have
three
City
lots
that
are
all
either
are
the
R's
that
we
own
or
that
we
lease
so
there's
Shoreline,
there's
Evelyn,
there's
tarabella,
and
then
we
still
have
participation
by
Lord's,
Grace
Church,
and
you
know
it's
currently
on
Hiatus,
but
Saint
Tims
was
also
a
participant
in
our
faith
related
program.
A
Great
okay,
great
and
just
so
everybody
understands
the
the
public
comment
on
this
item
has
been
closed.
Just
so,
everybody
understands
that
and
then
I
have
a
so.
This
is
a
a
an
issue,
that's
personal
to
me,
because
I
have
experienced
this,
which
is
that
Towing
is
cost
prohibitive,
especially
for
people
who
are
struggling
already.
And
so
what
is
the
process
if
you
tow
someone's
home,
because
that's
really
what
this
is?
A
How
did
they
get
it
back
and
is
it
you
know
like
I
I,
my
neighbor
told
me
a
story
about
getting
towed
in
the
city
of
San
Francisco
and
when
the
lady
in
front
of
her
and
she
got
to
the
towing
place,
it
was
seven
hundred
dollars
to
get
the
car
back
and
this
poor
young
woman
was
like
you
have
to
keep
the
car
I.
Don't
have
that,
and
so
is
that
what
we're
doing
here
is
that
what
happens
is
if
the
person
can't
afford
to
get
the
car
back?
They
just
lose
their
home.
C
O
School
yeah,
so
when
a
vehicle
is
towed,
they
get
it's
a
it's
actually
a
California,
Highway
Patrol,
a
CHP
form
and
the
back
of
that
form
explained
to
them
the
process
that
they
can
go
through
to
get
that
out.
The
first
step
on
that
is
coming
to
the
police
department
to
get
the
release
notification
signed.
O
O
So
you
know
if
it's
there
for
two
weeks
it
would
be
longer
than
if
it
was
only
there
for
two
days
but
I
I
couldn't
quote
you
what
those
rates
are
I
know
that
officer
McPherson
again
has
gotten
some
Community
groups
to
help
folks
get
the
vehicles
fees
paid,
for
we
have
also
waived
the
fees
in
a
few
limited
circumstances.
Where
we've
found
out
that
you
know
it
was
a
maybe
a
communication
error
for
us.
We
did
do
that
in
one
of
the
cases
that
was
was
talked
about
today.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay,
cool
and
then
I
just
have
a
comment.
I
I've
I
think
I've
kind
of
told,
mostly
everybody
at
some
point
or
another,
that
I
I
bumped
into
officer
McPherson
on
the
street
out
in
the
world.
A
Doing
her
thing
and
I
was
I'm
super
proud
that
she
represents
sort
of
the
city
and
the
department
the
way
that
she
interacts
with
people
on
the
street,
the
it's
caring,
it's
loving,
it's
she's,
working
as
a
resource
she's,
just
so
delightful
out
there
representing
us
and
and
trying
to
help
people
she's
offering
resources
she's.
You
know
checking
on
folks
and
if
their
vehicles
don't
work,
she's,
helping
them
figure
out
how
to
you
know,
get
get
it
so
that
it
does
work
and
I.
A
What
I
saw
on
the
street
was
you
know
the
city
sending
a
representative
out
to
help
people
and
I
was
just
really
impressed
with
her
work
and
I
was
really
impressed
with
her,
and
you
guys,
you
know
you
have
a
real
start
there
and
and
her
work.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
efforts
and
your
service
officer,
McPherson.
A
And
with
that,
we
could
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.
I.
Believe,
second,
here
this
is
the
subcommittee
for
Ripa
data
recommendations
and
this
item
will
be
presented
by
the
Ripa
data
subcommittee.
Members,
remember,
brodowsky
and
remember:
Langton
and
Captain,
Canfield
and
Mike.
You
can
take
it
away.
Q
Absolutely
just
give
me
one
moment
to
share
my
screen
about
my
PowerPoint.
E
I'm
I'm,
so
sorry,
some
of
you
know,
I
broke
my
shoulder
in
four
places
and
I
I
really
apologize
I'm
going
to
be
a
good
member,
but
the
Pain's
a
little
bit
too
much
and
I
even
double
dosed.
Before
this
meeting
so
I
I
really
apologize.
I
need
to
excuse
myself.
E
C
Q
Okay,
well,
thank
you
everybody.
This
is
the
presentation
from
the
euripa
subcommittee
recommendations
or
for
the
Ripa
subcommittee
recommendations
and
as
just
some
background,
let
me
move
your
we've
got
a
busy
screen
here.
Thank
you
just
as
a
background.
Q
This
is
the
so
here
we.
G
Q
Okay
in
the
fall
of
2020,
the
city
prioritized
the
review
of
our
traffic,
stop
data,
the
Mountain,
View
Police,
Department's
traffic,
stop
data
to
look
at
disparities
or
Trends
with
the
mvpd's
contacts
with
members
of
our
community.
This
was
done
with
the
city
Mount,
the
city
manager's
office
in
the
mvpd
partnering,
with
Stanford
University
and
the
University
of
Michigan
as
part
of
a
coalition
to
research
police
data.
Q
His
work
was
to
review
what
the
nature
of
and
observe
disparities
in
traffic
stops
were
by
the
Mountain
View
police
department
and
was
to
observe
disparities
if
disparities
were
indicative
of
potential
bias
in
the
Mountain
View
police
department.
And
lastly,
what
information
should
be
collected,
moving
forward
for
the
police
department.
Q
As
you
may
remember,
fellow
Stevenson's
detailed
report
contained
his
research
methodology,
which
included
a
really
important
component.
The
use
of
the
veil
of
Darkness
standard
the
bill
of
Darkness
standard
is
a
research
methodology
used
to
evaluate
the
potential
difference.
Q
The
perceived
race
of
a
driver
makes
by
comparing
the
by
comparing
stops
when
the
driver's
face
can
be
seen
during
the
daylight
to
stops
when
the
driver's
face
is
obscured
during
Darkness
and
that's
utilized
around
daylight
savings
time,
if
you
recall,
and
that
so
Stevenson
presented
to
the
psab,
both
on
the
24th
of
June
and
26th
of
August
and
2021
and
his
final
report.
Q
Therefore,
evaluations
of
these
decisions
should
be
done
with
caution,
though
Stevenson's
report
did
recommend
the
continued
review
of
mbpd's
data,
including
the
Ripa
data
when
it
began
to
be
collected,
which
brings
us
to
a
brief
overview
of
what
Ripa
is
Ripa
is
the
racial
and
identity
profiling
act,
Ripa
for
short
Ripa
data
collection
became
a
statutory
requirement
for
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department
in
January
of
last
year,
2022,
and
that
it
was
phased
in
depending
on
the
size
of
the
organization,
so
Mountain
View,
being
a
mid-sized
police
agency
had
to
begin
reporting
last
year
with
the
state,
with
the
state
requiring
a
collection
of
data
related
to
police
detentions
and
consent,
searches
for
background
detention
for
the
purpose
of
Ripa
was
any
time
an
officer
was
stopping
somebody
and
they
were
not
free
to
leave
and
a
consent
search
was
essentially
anytime.
Q
An
officer
was
asking
for
permission
of
a
subject
to
to
be
searched
by
that
officer.
The
required
data
sets
were
both
the
date
and
time
and
the
duration
of
the
stop
the
location
of
the
stop.
The
officers
perceived
the
what
the
officer
perceived
as
the
race
or
ethnicity
of
the
person
they
stopped,
the
perceived
gender
of
the
person
stopped
whether
the
person
stopped
was
perceived
to
be
a
member
of
the
LGBT
community.
Q
Q
So
you
can't
access
Mountain,
View
specific
data
through
the
doj
Additionally,
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department
collects
non-required
information,
so
different
data
sets
than
were
highlighted
above
so
we
collect
information
as
to
the
additional
information
is
whether
the
officer
making
the
contact
believe
the
subject
was
having
a
mental
health
crisis
or
how
mental
health
related
challenges
at
the
time
of
the
contact
and
at
what
point
from
the
officer's
perspective
did
the
they
believe
that
they
knew
the
subject's
race
or
gender.
Q
And
just
as
a
work
plan
background,
this
was
obviously
a
work
plan
item
and
it
was
from
the
2122
psab
work
plan.
It
was
adopted
by
City
Council
on
the
28th
of
September
in
21
and
it
included
a
project
to
develop
and
recommend
follow-up
actions
related
to
that
report
by
Phyllis
Stevenson,
with
a
focus
on
the
mvpd's
implementation
of
that
Ripper
requirement
and
exploring
methods
to
make
policing
data
more
open
and
accessible
to
the
public.
Q
On
February
24th
of
2022.
At
the
psab
meeting
the
board
you
created
the
Ripa
subcommittee,
consisting
of
members
brodovski
Langdon
and
then
Vice
chair
Frank.
Q
The
suggested
work
from
that
meeting
for
the
subcommittee
was
to
review
mvpd's
process
for
collecting
and
submitting
Ripa
data
to
the
state
to
review
and
provide
input
on
data
generated
from
Ripple
stops
to
review
and
provide
input
on
community
sentiment
on
the
data
collected
from
mvpd
to
explore
and
develop
recommendations
on
ways
to
make
mvpd
data
more
open
and
available
to
the
public
to
advise
the
mvpd
on
ways
to
partner
with
Community
to
determine
additional
data.
Sharing
that
may
be
useful
in
the
future
and
to
provide
updates
to
the
psab
for
recommendations.
Q
And
I'll
give
you
a
little
bit
of
the
background
before
the
subcommittee
members
speak,
but
just
some
of
the
background
on
the
research
that
the
subcommittee
did
conduct.
They
began
this
process
by
researching
and
reviewing
the
background,
the
legislation
and
what
the
actual
act,
the
Ripa
act
itself
and
then
reviewing
the
data
sets
collected
and
required
all
the
requirements
that
we
do
submit
and
then
reviewed.
Q
The
the
user
experience
that
interface,
that
our
officers
have,
as
well
as
the
data
entry
process
and
the
appropriate
department
policies
that
we
have
related
to
Ripa
and
that
was
done
by
a
Professional
Standards
unit
Sergeant
or
with
professional
standard
unit.
Sergeant
Matt
Atkins
at
the
time
now
Lieutenant
Atkins
from
this
evening,
and
then
they
examined
the
Department's
Ripa
data.
So
they
looked
at
the
data
once
we
were
able
to
collect
it.
They
examined
the
data
that
we
were
submitting
and
the
subsequent
doj
audit.
Q
So
the
doj
examined
the
accuracy
with
which
we
submitted
information
and
they
were
able
to
review
that
audit
as
well
and
then.
Lastly,
they
discussed
and
reviewed
the
the
work
by
research,
fellow
Stevenson
and
discussed
the
challenges
and
the
process
for
his
work,
and
he
provided
perspective
for
the
subcommittee
on
their
work.
S
Thank
you.
How
do
I
get
on.
Q
Q
S
You
can
be
perfect.
I
need
to
slide
too
I'd
like
to
begin
by
going
over
again
what
Ripa
means,
because
every
single
time
we
have
a
meeting
or
we're
talking
about
Ripa
data,
I
think
what
the?
What
do
the
letters
mean
and
so
I'll
just
repeat
them
again.
S
Ripa
means
racial
and
identity,
profiling
act,
and
so
it's
a
legislation
of
the
State
of
California
that
the
Mountain
View
police
department
has
to
follow
and
that's
why
it
gets
it
collects
this
data
and
tries
to
use
it.
So
the
Ripa
subcommittee,
which
was
included
Derek
Langton,
Cleve,
Frank,
Joan,
brodowski
and
Mike
Canfield.
S
S
We
were
looking
for
organizations
of
people
who
historically
have
been
marginalized
or
have
not
had
strong
connections
to
our
Police
Department,
or
they
had
not
had
an
easy
access
to
the
police
department
or
they
hadn't
been
felt
hadn't
felt
comfortable
around
the
police
or
people
who
don't
speak,
English
fluently
or
not
at
all
or
who
otherwise
may
not
have
spoken
out
within
the
community.
S
So
we
understood
that
our
community,
our
communities
are
diverse
and
no
group.
If
we
try
to
talk
to
one
person
in
a
group
like
one
person
in
the
Latino
Community
he's
certainly
not
going
to
reflect
what
everybody
in
the
in
that
group
would
say.
However,
even
so
we
got
some
good
information,
we
developed
a
questionnaire,
we
had
a
conversation
guide
or
something
like
that
to
use
when
we
were
talking
to
the
people
we
interviewed.
S
The
idea
was
to
gauge
in
each
case
how
important
the
Ripa
data
was
or
could
be
to
that
group
how
the
group
might
use
the
data,
how
the
group
would
like
the
data
formatted
if
it
if
it
showed
up
and
how
best
to
make
it
available
to
the
group
or
groups,
and
then
we
got
the
feedback
either
through
direct
telephone
conversations
with
representatives
of
the
different
groups
or
in
some
cases
just
by
email
response.
Some
people
just
wanted
to
see
the
questionnaire
and
said
they'd
answer
on
email.
S
That
we
picked
up
when
we
interviewed
all
of
these
people.
For
instance,
we
often
had
two
people
in
one
one
segment.
For
instance
where
I
talked
to
two
different
people
from
the
cafecito
group,
and
we
could
identify
themes
that
would
come
into
all
of
them
and
other
themes
that
were
picked
up
by
one
group
and
not
another.
But
here
are
the
important
ones.
S
The
Ripa
data
that
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department
gathers,
should
be
provided
online
and
should
be
provided
visually
and
also
graphically
visually
could
mean
written
something
written
textual,
but
graphically
means
in
in
tables
or
in
or
in
graphs
are,
and
a
lot
of
people
felt.
This
was
important,
and
people
mentioned
that
the
data
should
be
put,
and
this
means
to
in
a
tabular
form
that
can
be
manipulated,
meaning
that
if
people
wanted
to
take
the
data
and
further
slice
and
dice
that
they
could
do
that,
then
everybody
said.
S
Oh,
the
data
should
be
presented
in
in
the
languages
of
of
Mountain
View,
which
are
Spanish,
Mandarin
and
Russian,
plus
English,
of
course,
and
of
course
everybody
wants
the
data
to
be
easily
accessed.
They
don't
want
us
to
have
to
go
digging
through
files
or
having
to
make
a
big
application
and
pay
105
dollars
to
get
access
to
the
data.
S
They
said
that
they
would
like
to
have
the
data
to
inform
their
groups
how
safe
they
can
feel
with
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department,
and
this
way
community
aid
providers
can
help
their
clients
navigate
their
individual
challenges.
They
could
even
identify
patterns
or
problems
in
time
to
allow
early
interventions.
I
think
all
of
us
have
early
intervention
on
our
mind
after
the
two
shootings
this
past
week.
S
If
the
Ripa
data
and
reports
are
printed
and
made
freely
available,
community
members
who
may
not
review
it
online
could
have
access
people
like
the
idea
of
frequent
postings
of
Ripa
data,
I,
think
they'd
love
to
have
it
every
day,
see
what
the
the
data
comes
out
daily,
but
frequent
could
mean
easily
quarterly
or
or
even
by
semester,
and
and
finally,
they
want
that
the
Ripa
data
be
identified.
S
That
data
be
identified
that
points
to
discrimination,
and
they
say
that
this
will
allow
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department
to
identify
any
Trend
that
could
be
concerned.
Concerning
early
so
this
these
were,
these
were
the
things
that
we
gathered
and
I
will
let
Derek
the
one
who
complete
the
presentation.
G
We
took
great
care
and
learning
about
Ripa
its
requirements,
the
process
of
collecting
the
data
and
hearing
what
was
important
from
a
broad
swath
of
our
community,
and
it
is
with
that
Foundation
that
the
Ripa
subcommittee
myself,
member
rodoski
and
Sheriff
Frank
made
the
following
recommendations
to
the
psab.
G
G
Connection
at
home,
the
MB,
the
mvpd,
should
publish
quarterly
rapid
data
and
csvp
CSV
format,
allowing
for
the
public
to
review
and
examine
the
data.
G
Q
Just
want
to
cover
some
potential
next
steps,
they're
very
similar
to
the
recommendations,
obviously,
but
including
kind
of
some
staff
expectations
or
or
intent
as
well,
so
to
continue
to
collect
both
the
required
Ripa
data
and
the
additional
data
sets
that
the
that
we've
elected
to
collect
to
collaborate
with
research,
fellow
Stevenson,
to
ensure
continued
external
data
analysis,
including
applying
applicable
Ripa
data
to
his
existing
research.
That
he's
already
done
and
work
that
he's
done
to
research
and
Implement.
An
interactive
and
mobile-friendly
Ripa
data.
Q
Q
Mick
quarterly
Ripa
data
available
upon
requests,
as
mentioned
in
the
CSV
format,
and
in
paper
formats,
to
publish
the
accessory
ability
and
it's
Ripa
data
across
the
Department's,
various
social
media
platforms,
and
directly
to
stakeholders
and
seek
feedback
on
continuing
methods
for
Ripa
data
access
and
transparency,
and
to
draft
and
Implement
policy
for
a
supervisor
to
review.
Every
officer's
Ripa
entry,
accuracy
and
policy
adherence
and
to
implement
additional
random
internal
audits.
I
Thank
you,
information.
I
I
have
two
questions.
The
first
one
is
quicker.
So
I'll
start
with
that
one.
What
does
it
mean
to
or
I
guess
what
are
the
methods
around
which
officers
are
using
to
see
if
someone
is
perceived
to
be
LGBT.
Q
Yeah,
that's
a
tricky
one,
that's
a
requirement
that
came
from
the
state
and
really
there's
not
necessarily
one
way
to
know,
but
what
it
gauges
is
what
the
officer
thinks.
So,
if
you're
looking
for
a
bias
from
an
officer,
you
look
for
what
the
officer
thinks
so
I
I.
Guess:
that's
really
going
to
be
kind
of
an
individual
basis.
I!
Don't
think
that
every
member
of
the
LGBT
community
can
you
know
it
all
looks
the
same
or
as
monolithic
in
any
any
way.
Q
I
So
when
we
have
this
data
and
we're
like
looking
at
it
after
we
collected
in
the
future,
do
we
use
this
data
to
inform
like
policy
or
like
structural
or
procedural
changes
around
the
way
that
officers
treat
members
of
the
lgbtq
community,
or
is
it
that
it's
kind
of
a
reflection
on
the
officers
themselves.
Q
Well,
I
think
it's
I
think
it
really
informs
all
both
of
those
things
so
that
the
information
that
comes
out
can
certainly
inform
policy
and
larger
decisions,
training,
hiring
practices,
recruiting
practices.
Those
things
are
certainly
all
informed
by
potentially
informed
by
the
Ripa
data,
and
you
know
there
could
be
also
information
from
that
that
could
benefit
the
officers
about
their
their
behavior.
Q
But
it's
also
important
to
note
that
there
can
be
variables
that
might
really
affect
you
know
the
the
data
Associated
to
an
individual
officer's
Ripa
stops.
If
they
let's
say
they
work
downtown
and
there's
a
predominantly
LGBT
bar
in
that
area,
then
they
may
have
different
numbers
than
somebody
who
works
in
a
different
area.
So
just
that,
that's
really
one
of
the
main
reasons.
Q
I
Thank
you
and
then,
in
regards
to
my
next
question
and
I
know
you
covered
this
a
little
bit
in
the
memo,
but
I
just
want
to
get
some
more
information.
I
What
are
kind
of
the
the
standards
to
which
we're
assessing
the
data
after
we
collect
it
so
like
we're
starting
to
get
more
data
now
in
the
future
kind
of
what
are
we
measuring
it
up
against
to
kind
of
be
a
like?
Where
do
we
want
to
be,
as
as
a
city
in
a
police
department
in
terms
of
the
data
and
kind
of
what
we
see.
Q
Yeah
I
think
what's
important
is
one
to
continuously
grow
and,
as
we
get
more
data
and
as
we're
seeing
better
methodology
being
approached
with
the
data
to
examine
that
and
evaluate
its
benefit
for
us
in
the
short
term.
Speaking
with
with
Alex
Stevenson,
we
think
it's
very
beneficial
to
apply
the
research
that
he's
already
done
and
to
overlap
those
numerous
applicable
data
sets
from
Ripa.
Q
Certainly
not
every
data
set
from
Ripa,
but
many
data
sets
from
Ripa
and
continue
that
research
that
he's
done
or
continue
the
research
methodology
with
the
new
data
and
see
a
lot
of
benefit
and
value
to
that.
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
that's
you
know
the
the
place
that
the
process
ends,
but
it's
certainly
a
good
place
to
pick
up
and
start
utilizing.
This
data
that
we're
getting
in.
We
have
one
year
of
data
at
this
point,
but
much
of
that
data
can
overlap
with
five
or
six
years
of
existing
data.
I
Thank
you
just
kind
of
for
the
future
I'm
interested
in
maybe
like
in
a
year
kind
of
coming
back
as
a
board
or
as
a
committee
as
you
guys
as
a
company
and
kind
of
setting
standards
to
which
we
want
to
see
or
want
to
be
at
and
I
think
that
helped
us
kind
of
move
forward
in
general
be
more
actionable.
So
that's
your
suggestion
of
kind
of
reflecting
in
a
year
and
then
seeing
the
kind
of
setting
some
standards
on
what
we
want
to
do.
G
G
G
You
know,
the
person
can
sometimes
just
volunteer
that
they
just
came
out
of
a
gay
bar.
They
may
be
traveling
with
their
spouse,
their
wife,
their
you
know,
significant
other.
You
know,
there's
there's
just
a
lot
of
conversation
that
really
goes
on
with
a
typical
traffic.
Stop
that
an
officer
can
make
some
assumptions.
They
may
at
times
be
wrong,
but
there
are
ways
to
to
kind
of
make
a
best
guess
it
isn't
always
exact,
but
you
know
there
is
a
fair
amount
of
information
that
is
exchanged
in
a
typical
traffic.
A
N
Thanks
I
guess
this
is
not
about
repair
data
specifically
but
I'm,
just
like
curious,
because
now
we've
been
through
like
since
we
did,
the
study
we've
now
been
through
another
cycle
of
daylight
savings
being
implemented
and
then
being
over
and
I
wonder
if
we
have
another
set
of
data
for
the
study,
for
the
name
is.
N
Q
So
I
can
I
can
answer
that
fellow
Stevenson
is
here
and
certainly
is
more
qualified
to
answer
that
than
I
am
Alex.
Would
you
like
to
jump
in
for
that?
One.
P
Hello,
can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
the
short
version,
the
short
answer
to
your
question.
Remember:
Tang
is
yes,
you
certainly
could
the
requirements
to
run
so.
C
P
Think
of
it
as
what
the
test
is
doing
is
you
need
periods
of
time
for
which
we
would
imagine
that
officers
could
view
inside
the
vehicle
of
a
car
and
see
the
people
inside
the
car
and
then
a
similar
time,
for
which
we
would
imagine
those
people
would
also
be
on
the
road,
but
you
could
not.
So
if
you
have
an
additional
year
of
data,
that
is
the
minimal
requirement
from
a
data
perspective,
as
mentioned
in
the
previous
reports
to
the
subcommittee
and
I
think
from
Mike's
briefing
there.
P
There
are
other
assumptions
that
go
into
a
veil
of
Darkness
test,
but
those
are
not
necessarily
data
assumptions
in
terms
of
what
data
exists,
but
rather
assumptions
that
you
have
to
believe
about
the
data
generating
process.
So
the
big
one
is,
you
would
have
to
believe
that
in
this
last
year
it
is
the
case
that
individuals
who
are
on
the
road
at
6
20
in
the
evening
in
March,
would
be
the
same
kinds
or
types
of
individuals
who
would
be
on
the
road
at
6,
20
PM
in
November.
A
Very
good,
any
other
questions
very
good
I,
just
I
just
had
this
one
comment
in
that
in
that
we
don't
I,
think
we've
discussed
this
before
Mike,
but
we
we
have
a
relatively
small
data
set,
and
so
this
is
a
thing
that's
going
to
take
years
to
to
sort
of
reveal
some
Trends
based
on
the
number
of
of
inputs
that
we'll
have
in
it,
but
over
time
it
will
start
to
reveal
more
less
the
operations
that
that
come
up
from
from
you
know
every
now
and
then
and
then.
Q
Yeah
I
think
to
that
point
was
part
of
fellow
Stevenson's
recommendation
to
apply
the
existing
or
support
of
applying
the
existing
work
to
the
the
new
data.
A
Understood
very
good:
okay,
if
there
are
no
further
questions,
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
these
recommendations.
A
A
W
Thank
you,
chair,
Frank,
hear
me.
Okay,.
C
W
Cool,
thank
you,
cool,
okay,
Bruce
England.
Speaking
for
nbcra,
we
have
a
few
points
we
heard
the
discussion
sounds
like
you
covered
a
lot
of
what
we
have
to
say,
but
I'll
mention
these
things
anyway.
W
The
traffic
pedestrian
stop
analysis
subcommittee.
Is
that
the
name
because
we've
seen
different
names
in
different
places?
So
if
there's
an
official
name
it'd
be
great
to
be
consistent
to
use
the
same
name
everywhere.
W
The
recommendations
you've
got
are
a
great
place
to
start,
and
we
do
agree
with
them
sounds
like
you
talked
about
this,
but
should
the
data
also
be
published
on
the
psab
webpage
sounds
like
you're
doing
it
in
CSV
files
and
in
multiple
languages?
It's
really
great,
maybe
you're,
following
the
model
that
bpac
and
PD
set
for
traffic
data
there.
But
anyway
it's
good
move
and
a
clarification
about
the
final
recommendation
says
continued
opportunities
for
M
mpvd
to
listen
to
Community,
Voices
I.
Think
that's
mdpd.
What
do
those
opportunities?
W
Look
like
quarterly
reports
to
psap
ongoing
meetings
of
this
subcommittee
that
get
shared
out
at
psap,
weren't,
just
not
sure,
and
then.
Lastly,
a
clarification.
Our
understanding
is
that
lgbtq
relates
to
sexual
orientation
and
that
differs
from
gie,
which
is
gender
identity
and
expression,
so
profiling
practices
to
identify
lgbtq,
don't
necessarily
make
sense.
In
this
context,
somebody
can
only
tell
what
his
or
her
sexual
orientation
is
potentially
and
that's
it
for
our
comments
and
questions
thanks.
F
Hi
thanks
committee
members
for
your
clearly
you
put
a
lot
of
thought
and
work
into
this,
and
thanks
for
the
presentation
it
was
well
done.
I
really
want
to
highlight
and
call
out
some
of
the
things
that
you
did
suggest
having
the
data
in
like
a
visual
dashboard
type
thing
like
that.
F
You
know
the
Santa
Clara
County
covid
dashboard
that
these
days
I
don't
really
look
at
as
much
as
I
did
back
early
pandemic,
but
having
that
sort
of
easily
looked
at
and
like
point-and-click
sort
of
manipulation,
but
then
also
providing
it
for
people
to
have
access
to
to
Really
cut
it
up.
I
think
remember:
brodovski,
said
I
forget
the
exact
turn
of
phrase
but
I
liked
it
and
also
the
making
it
compatible
with
mobile
devices
to
really
really
key
and
important
thing.
F
Wouldn't
it
be
great
if
everyone
we
had
Municipal
broadband
and
people
didn't
have
to
worry
about
internet
costs,
but
that's
not
the
world
we
live
in.
So
thinking
and
preparing
for
that
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
highlight
the
commend
mvpd
for
collecting
extra
data
other
than
just
what's
required
by
state
law.
In
particular.
I
did
like
the
the
officer
marking
down
when,
in
the
interaction
they
themselves
thought
that
they
could
perceive
the
various
things
that
they
had
marked
down
by
law.
F
I,
think
that
is
a
really
key
piece
of
data
that
will
kind
of
show
how
how
the
interactions
develop
and
in
a
way
that
really
gives
some
shed
some
light
in
that
that
wouldn't
have
been
shed
just
with
the
Baseline
data.
So
thanks
for
being
thoughtful
about
what
that
data
is
and
having
done,
that
Outreach
and
and
how
to
present
it
and
look
forward
to
seeing
it
as
it
develops.
A
It
looks
like
we
lost
Tim,
so
we'll
move
on
to
Community
member
Lee.
We
have
three
minutes.
X
Hi
this
is
paying
Lee,
my
pronouns.
Are
she
her
hers?
I'm
a
Community
member
in
Mountain,
View
and
I
wanted
to
actually
affirm
one
of
the
earlier
public
comments
by
Bruce
in
regards
to
the
profiling
practices
with
lgbtq
yeah,
at
least
from
my
understanding.
Sexual
orientation
is
something
when
someone
can
only
really
tell
you
so
I
think
that
trying
to
profile
for
gender
perceived
gender
is
possible,
but
sexual
orientation
is
different
and
perhaps
I
don't
know,
with
more
work
being
done
on
your
work.
X
X
Think
this
difference
and
distinction
is
really
important
when
we
are
approaching
people
in
our
community,
because
these
are
really
important
diversity,
elements
of
our
identities,
so
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
confirm,
and
I
would
support
reaching
out
to
other
community
organizations
and
getting
more
input
on
this,
because
it
is
a
valuable
data
point
together,
I
think,
but
the
distinction
is
also
really
important.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
on
this,
but
just
want
to
bring
that
up.
Thank
you.
N
My
question
is
for
Captain:
Canfield
is
identifying
sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity
and
expression
mandated
by
the
Ripa
like
lots,
legislation
itself.
Yes,.
Q
Yeah,
that
that
is
a
requirement
and
I
understand
the
complexity
and
I
appreciate
the
comments,
but
that
is
a
requirement
from
the
state.
So
that
is,
that
is
not
something
that
we
have
the
option
to
collect
or
not
collect
or
to
edit
when
we
collect
it
and
submit
it
to
the
doj.
A
Thank
you,
and
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
I
think
I'm
ready
for
a
motion
to
approve
the
oh.
We
have
one
more
from
Member
Sandu.
A
J
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
them
their
recommendations.
A
Okay,
for
a
second
and
Mr
Amber,
would
you
like
to
call
the
roll
I.
D
C
Yes,
member
Langton,
yes
member
santu,
yes,
indeed,
and
member
Tang
hi-
that.
A
Thank
you
with
that.
We
can
move
on
to
item
six,
which
is
staff,
comments,
questions
and
reports
from
P
sub
members.
The
next
item
is
board
staff,
comments,
questions
and
committee
reports.
No
action
will
be
taken
on
any
questions
raised
by
the
PC
Sab
at
this
time.
Do
any
psab,
members
or
staff
have
any
comments
or
questions
number
10.
N
So
I
I
don't
know,
should
we
do
this
one
at
a
time,
because
I
had
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
bring
up,
but
the
first
one
was.
This
is
the
last
meeting
that
I
can
take
from
the
comfort
of
my
home
with
my
cat
and
my
lap,
but
that's
not
the
point.
I
knew
that
that
was
coming.
The
point
is
I
was
learning
about
hybrid
capabilities
for
our
community
members
to
be
able
to
tune
in
and
I
had
been
hearing
that
other
you
know.
N
Other
advisory
bodies
have
been
using
council
chambers
and
also
the
atrium
room,
which
is
AV
equipped
to
do
hybrid.
D
And
and
thank
you,
member
Tang,
for
sharing
it
with
me
ahead
of
time,
the
the
two
meeting
rooms
that
are
currently
equipped
for
streamed
and
live
participation.
Video
are
the
council
chambers
and
Atrium.
There
are
three
advisory
boards,
that
or
bodies
that
use
the
chambers,
and
that
is
limited
to
those
that
are
policy
making
and
or
quasi
adjudicatory
bodies.
D
So,
in
addition
to
the
council
that
includes
the
environmental,
Planning
Commission
and
the
rental
Housing
Commission
and
those
those
meetings
are
staffed
for
the
streaming
through
contracts
with
kmvt,
which
is
the
provider
of
public
educational
and
governmental
programming
for
Mountain
View,
and
we
don't
currently
use
that
room
or
have
those
contracts
in
place
for
any
of
the
other
Bodies
In
The
City.
D
The
atrium
is
the
small
all
conference
room
on
the
first
floor
and
there
are
a
handful
of
advisory
bodies
that
have
historically
used
that
space,
and
it
is
one
of
the
the
rooms
that,
with
all
the
supply
chain
issues
we
were
able
to
get
set
up
for
hybrid
or
for
for.
Basically,
you
know
Telecom
conference
capabilities,
and
that
was
primarily
done
to
support
meetings
internally
with
staff
or
between
staff
and
and
stakeholders,
and
not
for
publicly
noticed
broad
participation
type
meetings
in
that
it
is
a
very
small
room.
D
The
table
takes
up
almost
all
of
the
space
in
the
room,
and
so
it's
difficult
for
there
to
be
space
for
the
public
to
sit
comfortably
and
address
the
the
commission,
and
so
that's
not
the
room
that
that
we
had
identified
for
the
psab
to
meet
in
that's
the
plaza
room,
which
is
the
room
that
more
of
the
of
the
commissions
do
meet
in
and
that
room
is
not
yet
set
up
with
teleconferencing
capabilities
and
what
my
office
is
charged
with
is
trying
to
come
up
with
a
the
both
the
technology
and
the
Staffing
plan.
D
You
know
how
you
would
capture
all
inputs
and
all
audio
that
would
be
happening
in
a
room
like
the
plaza
and
also
just
the
staff
capacity.
It's
it's
not
quite
like
having
two
meetings,
but
when
you
have
the
setup
and
the
running
of
both
what's
happening
physically
in
the
room
and
what's
happening
remotely,
it
requires
more,
you
know,
kind
of
more
hands
on
deck,
more
effort
and
more
training
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
how
to
do
that.
D
So
we're
not
ready
long
story
short
we're
not
ready
to
seamlessly
move
in
February
to
having
The
Advisory
bodies,
including
psab.
The
able
to
meet
in
in
a
hybrid
format,
definitely
understand
the
value
of
that,
in
that
there
is
a
an
increase
we've
seen
in
people's
ability
to
participate,
and
we
would
like
to
keep
that
go
going
and
we're
committed
to
working
on
that
and
I
will
keep
you
all
posted
on
our
progress
and
being
able
to
do
that.
R
N
Moving
or
what
the
atrium
sorry
in
the
atrium
in
the
meantime,
but
you
know
coveted
things.
The
the
second
question
I
was
going
to
raise
was
around
the
search
for
a
new
Chief
and
what
that
process
is
like,
and
you
know
how
can
community
members
get
involved
and
all.
D
We
are
at
a
pretty
early
stage
in
the
process
of
designing
the
process,
determining
kind
of
the
scope
and
the
steps
for
picking
the
the
right
best
next
person
to
lead
the
Mountain
View
Police
Department,
and
it
obviously
is
a
very
important
choice.
So
it
needs
to
be
a
well
thought
out
and
deliberate
process.
So
don't
it's
since
it's
we're
early
in
that
I.
Don't
really
have
any
details
to
share
about
it.
D
I
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
the
your
particular
interest
in
what
would
be
the
community's
role,
you
know
typically
for
the
city,
manager's
choice
of
department
heads
there.
That
is
an
an
operational
decision.
D
So
there
is
not
typically
a
community
role
in
selecting
the
department
heads
that
report
to
the
city
manager,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
understand
the
interest,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
might
be
a
helpful
thing
for
for
us
to
know
and
consider
within
the
process
are
the
kinds
of
leadership
qualities
that
the
P
sub
and
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
who
you
know,
submit
that
information
to
psab
would
would
hope
to
have
be
considered
in
the
the
selection
process
or
kind
of
the
community
issues.
D
That's
something
that
that
feedback,
you
know,
I
think,
is
a
reasonable
thing
for
the
psab
to
be
a
conduit
to
to
to
have
me
as
staff
to
the
psab,
communicate
to
the
the
city
manager
for
her
use
in
designing
the
process
and
and
moving
forward
through
that
process
to
select
the
next
police
chief.
D
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
Captain
Chief
shung
is
the
police
chief
through
mid-February
and
at
that
point
of
his
departure,
Max
Lazelle,
former
police
chief,
will
return
as
interim
police
chief
so
that
we
have
steady
and
continuous
leadership
as
the
recruitment
processes
is
designed
and
and
carried
out.
G
Yeah
I
mean
I
hit
the
wrong
button.
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
Sub
sub
comment
to
the
LGBT
component
of
the
Ripa
data
I
I'm
kind
of
just
happy
that
they're
trying
to
assess
that
I
know
it's
complicated.
G
A
Yeah
I
would
second
that
not
that
we
have
it
here,
but
you
know
if
it
would
identify
an
officer
with
a
trend
towards
you
know.
Picking
on
members
of
the
LGBT
community,
I
think
this
data
is
supposed
to
sort
of
borne
that
out.
Nothing
gets
I
think
it's
a
a
worthy
effort,
even
though
it's
complicated
anyone
else.
C
D
Effective
and
and
legal
meetings
and
proceedings,
so
thank
you
all
very
much
for
for
doing
that.
A
Thank
you.
Actually,
it
was
pretty
wasn't
it
was
it
wasn't
as
bad
as
I
thought
it
would
be
so
before
yes,
remember,
Langton.
G
No
I'm
not
on
mute
I
was
just
curious,
not
that
I'm
planning
on
missing
any
more
meetings.
I
definitely
had
some
health
problems
this
year,
but
they
said
that
there's
potential
to
to
video
conference
into
a
meeting
if
you
were
like
in
the
hospital
or
something
and
you
had
internet
access,
but
if
the
rooms
aren't
set
up
for
that,
does
that
mean
that
that's
not
an
option
right
now.
B
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Member
Langton
So.
Within
the
brown
act
before
the
pandemic.
There
were
ways.
D
That
under
limited
circumstances,
people
could
participate
remotely
with
the
location
of
their
participation
needing
to
be
placed
on
the
agenda
and
with
the
place
that
they
were
participating
in
the
meeting
having
the
agenda
posted
such
that,
if
any
members
of
the
public
in
that
location,
like,
for
example,
at
a
conference.
You
know
on
the
East
Coast
wanted
to.
You
know,
step
in
and
comment
on
that
that
item
that
they'd
be
allow
the
opportunity.
C
D
D
With
recent
legislation
that
has
you
know
there
was
a
return
to
the
regular
brown
act,
but
then
an
add-on.
That
said,
there
are
some
reasons
for,
for
example,
through
illness
or
other
things,
that
a
member
can
be
able
to
participate
remotely
without
those
special
agenda
additions,
enhancements
and
again
it
that
could
be
through
a
a
video
or
tele
an
effective
speakerphone,
and
not
necessarily
through
video.
If
we
were
still
in
a
place
where
we
weren't
able
to
didn't,
have
the
technology
to
do
video
conferencing.
D
One
thing
I
didn't
know
in
response
to
member
Chang's
question
is
that
we
we
do
now
have
the
vendor
and
the
equipment
scheduled
to
do
the
work
in
the
in
the
Plaza
conference
room.
So
that
is
more
imminent.
I
mean
it's
been
one
of
those
things
that
was
just
around
the
corner
for
about
a
year,
but
it
is.
It
is
more
concretely
imminent,
such
that,
if
you
do
find
yourself
in
that
situation
again,
where
you
anticipate
being
away
you've
coordinated
with
us,
we
can
accommodate
it.
J
Yes,
I
I
agree
with
Audrey.
Thank
you,
Ms
ramberg.
J
In
fact,
it
did
happen
a
few
a
decade
ago
when
I
was
in
the
HRC
I
was
to
be
in
Singapore
and
I
do
partake
in
the
commission's
meeting
and
we
did
use
the
old-fashioned
phone
on
the
I
and
I
used
basically
Skype
phone
to
chime
in
and
go
through
the
whole
meeting,
and
that
was
fun
kind
of
fun
right,
but
it'd
be
nice.
If
you
can
just
make
it
so
easy
and
have
it
in
a
local
pub
right,
let
everybody
come
and
watch
us
in
action,
but
that'll
never
happen.
J
We'd
have
to
be
in
on
city
property,
so
yeah.
You
know
great
it's
great
great,
to
see
everyone
here,
but
be
fantastic
to
see.
Everyone
in
person,
too
I
think
the
only
person
that
two
people
I've
met
I
mean
I've
met,
Captain
Mike
I
met.
You
know,
Kimberly
long
time
ago,
Cleve
and
Kavita
at
the
get
together
at
Shoreline.
A
Thank
you
and
lastly,
I
neglected
to
thank
Kimberly
and
her
staff
and
and
Scott,
and
the
remaining
parts
of
his
team,
Captain
Captain
Nelson,
so
Audrey.
If
you
would
mind,
passing
my
thanks
to
them
great
presentation
from
those
guys
and
I
really
appreciate
their
service
and
their
work,
and
with
that
we
are
adjourned.