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Live teleconference meeting of the City of Mountain View Environmental Planning Commission Meeting scheduled for Wednesday, March 2, 2022.
Live Video Conference: YouTube, mountainview.legistar.com, and Comcast Channel 26.
A
Meeting
of
the
environmental
planning
commission
of
mountain
view
at
7
01
pm
during
this
declared
state
of
emergency,
the
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
california
government
code,
54953,
section
e,
as
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
cityclerk
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution.
A
A
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noted
in
the
meeting
agenda,
members
of
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public
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Today,
we're
forwarded
to
the
epc.
A
C
A
Here,
okay
and
accounted
for
item
three
on
the
agenda
is
meeting
minutes.
The
memorial
planning
commission
review
the
minutes
from
the
february
16
2022
meeting.
First.
Is
there
any
discussion
from
any.
A
We'll
open
it
up
to
public
comment,
would
any
member
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
comment
on
the
minutes?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
10
button
and
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or
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star
9
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users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
6..
Ubc
clerk
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up.
A
I'll
bring
it
back
to
the
commission.
Do
I
have
a
motion
and
commissioner
good
years.
A
And
ms
panelnar,
can
you
call
the
role.
B
H
A
A
Next
item
agenda
is
oral
communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
epc
on
any
matter
that
is
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes.
During
this
section,
the
state
law
prohibits
the
commission
from
acting
on
any
non-agenda
items.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
undone
agenda
item?
A
B
No,
I
don't
see
any
hands
up.
Oh
actually,
we
do
have
one
guadalupe,
I'm
gonna.
Let
you
talk
one.
Second.
Let
me
just
put
up
my
time.
I
B
J
Hi
everybody.
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight.
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
mobile
home
park
residents
and
also
because
I
am
a
latina
and
I
wanted
to
give
my
input
in
regards
to
our
experience.
So
basically,
our
rent
is
pretty
high,
so
in
our
raises
are
pretty
low.
So
I
wanted
to
speak
on
behalf
of
that
and
also
we
love
the
city.
We
we
we
work
really
hard
here
and
we
don't
want
to
leave.
J
So
I
am
calling
just
to
give
you
guys
my
input
and
on
what
it's
like
to
live
here
in
mountain
view,
in
in
an
area
where
it's
really
really
expensive,
although
we
love
it
very
much
so
that
was
all
I
had
to
say
tonight.
A
You
will
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
and
move
on
to
item
number
five
5.1,
which
is
a
public
hearing
on
amendments
to
the
tenant,
relocation
ordinance
to
extend
the
tenant,
relocation,
assistance
and,
first
rate
of
return
to
mobile
home
tenants.
K
Tonight
we
are
bringing
to
you
some
changes
to
the
trail,
and
the
purpose
of
this
presentation
is
that
the
epc
recommends
the
city
council
adopt
an
ordinance
amending
chapter
36
of
the
mountain
view,
city
code
related
to
the
tenant
relocation
assistance
in
order
to
provide
tenant
relocation
benefits
and
a
first
right
to
return
to
mobile
home
tenants
who
rent
a
mobile
home
in
a
mountain
view,
mobile
home
park.
K
The
city
council,
as
you
may
recall,
adopted
on
september
28,
the
mobile
home
rent
stabilization
ordinance
short
named
mhrso,
and
this
ordinance
went
into
effect
on
october,
the
28th
of
last
year,
the
city
council,
approval
included
also
providing
mobile
home
tenants
for
relocation
protections
to
mobile
home
tenants
for
evictions
without
fault
and
to
provide
the
right
of
return
to
a
rental
unit
that
is
returned
to
the
rental
market
previously
removed
from
the
rental
market,
and
the
rental
housing
committee
has
reviewed
this
proposal
in
their
meeting
last
month
and
recommended
approving
the
amendments.
K
For
background
clarification,
these
recommended
modifications
would
cover
tenants
of
a
mobile
home
that
are
rented
from
either
an
individual
mobile
home
owner.
This
is
an
owner
of
a
mobile
home
who
rents
the
space
from
a
park
owner
but
rents
out
his
unit
to
a
tenant
or
by
a
park
owner
who
rents
both
the
space
and
the
mobile
home
to
a
tenant.
K
Some
of
the
key
provisions
are
that
there
is
an
income
requirement
to
get
benefits
and
a
household
income
cannot
exceed
100,
120,
ami
plus
five
thousand
dollars
for
santa
clara
county
as
adjusted
for
household
size
and
on
the
slide,
you
can
see
the
numbers
for
the
2021
state
area,
median
income
adjusted
for
household
size
for
our
county.
K
Another
key
provision
is
relocation,
assistance
under
the
trail,
which
includes
a
refund
of
the
security
deposit,
a
subscription
service
to
a
rental
agency,
a
cash
equivalent
of
three
months,
rent
based
on
a
median
monthly
rent
for
a
similar
sized
units
in
mountain
view
and
for
special
circumstances,
households,
an
additional
benefit
of
eight
thousand
five
hundred
and
three
dollars,
and
that's
the
number
for
2022
and
special
circumstances.
Households
include
a
senior
person
62
years
age
or
older,
disabled
or
handicapped,
or
with
minor
children
under
18
years,
who
are
legally
dependent.
K
The
mhrso
covers
a
first
right
of
return
to
a
rental
unit
for
four
just
cause
reasons:
they
are
necessary:
repairs,
an
owner,
moving
a
permanent
withdrawal
of
the
property
and
demolition
of
a
rental
unit.
The
trail
only
deals
with
one
of
these
four
just
causes,
which
is
the
permanent
withdrawal
of
the
property
and
the,
and
this
is
includes
the
removal
of
all
mobile
homes
under
common
ownership
and
control
in
a
mobile
home
park.
K
K
This
inclusion
in
a
local
ordinance
can
only
be
in
an
ordinance
as
approved
by
city
council,
so
the
rental
housing
committee
will
develop
further
regulations
to
regulate
the
first
right
of
return
for
the
other.
Three
just
causes
that
we
mentioned
today,
and
so
this
might
cause
a
little
bit
of
confusion.
K
So
the
next
steps
in
approving
these
recommendations
would
be
that
your
recommendations
will
be
forwarded
to
the
city,
council
and
a
city
council
is
scheduled
to
hold
a
public
hearing
on
april
12th.
That's
the
first
reading
and
may
10
as
a
second
reading
to
consider
these
trail
amendments.
K
A
Open
up
the
commissioner
questions.
First,
commissioner,
gutierrez.
F
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
much
appreciate
the
research
and
the
time
dedicated
for
this
recommendation.
I
have
a
quick
question.
When
I
looked
at
the
supporting
documentation
that
was
sent
to
us,
one
of
the
pdf
said,
I
believe
that
we
weren't
going
to
create
a
new
ordinance,
but
rather
doing
an
amendment,
and
it
indicated
what
the
amendment
would
be.
F
But
when
you
look
at
that
dock
at
the
top
of
it
there's
an
ordinance
number
and
then
a
blank
when
I
click
on
the
links
that
go
back
and
point
out
which
ordinances
are
referenced,
I'm
wondering
are
those
that
were
in
that
link
going
to
be
placed
at
the
top
of
that
ordinance
number
to
indicate
the
ordinance
numbers
themselves
or
how
is
that
going
to
be
worded
and
phrased
so
that
there's
clear
understanding
of
what
the
document
is
and
what
the
amendments
are
too.
K
L
Okay,
let
me
let
me
take
a
shot
at
it
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
link
is
being
referred
to.
But
let
me
just
tell
the
commission
that
I
think
when
we,
when
staff
said
that
a
new
ordinance
wouldn't
be
created,
it's
that
a
separate
standalone
part
of
the
zoning
code
wouldn't
be
created
just
to
address
the
the
mobile
home
tenants
that
we
would
be
incorporating
them
those
protections
and
the
existing
trayo.
L
So
we're
amending
the
tenant
relocation
assistance
ordinance,
the
existing,
which
is
the
the
section
of
the
code
that
already
exists
to
simply
incorporate
mobile
home
tenants
and
the
first
right
of
return
as
to
mobile
home
tenants.
L
And
so
there
will
be
a
new
ordinance
number
for
the
one
that
is
ultimately
adopted
by
city
council
this
year
and
that
will
simply
amend
the
existing
code.
F
F
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
think
I
may
probably
direct
my
question
to
ms
lee,
because
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
interaction
between
the
mobile
home
ordinance
and
the
trail
because
and
why
it
makes
sense
for
the
trio
to
have
a
provision
that
gives
the
rights
of
return
specifically
if
the
whole
mobile
home
park
is
sold
out
from
under
the
the
tenants.
M
But
it
sounds
like
the
mobile
home
ordinance
would
cover
all
other
cases,
since
that's
the
only
case
that
we
would
not
that
the
sale
of
the
entire
property
is
somehow
the
one
piece
that's
not
covered
under
and
the
mobile
home
law
is.
Do
I
have
that
right.
K
Yeah,
I
I
can.
I
can
I
researched
that
this
afternoon,
so
here's
the
here's,
the
tricky
part
of
it.
So
the
withdrawal
of
the
market
of
rental
units
is
a
specific
type
of
termination
of
tenants
that
is
regulated
by
the
alice
act.
This
is
a
state
law
and
in
the
state
law
it
says
that
local
authorities
can
adopt
these
alice
act
rules,
but
it
has
to
be
in
an
ordinance
and
it
has
to
be
adopted
by
city
council.
K
Otherwise,
the
rental
housing
committee
would
have
adopted
first
right
of
return
for
all
the
just
causes
that
are
regulated
in
the
mobile
home
rent
stabilization
ordinance,
but
because
this
state
law
states
that
it
has
to
be
in
a
city
council
adopted
ordinance,
we
put
it
in
the
tenant,
relocation,
assistance,
ordinance.
M
Mr
chair,
if
I,
if
I
may,
ask
a
follow-up
question
so
if
say
a
mobile
home
park
owner
wanted
to
sell
half
of
the
plot,
would
that,
with
the
the
relocate,
the
dislocation
of
the
folks
that
live
in
that
half
that
that
he
or
she
wanted
to
sell
all
those
dislocations?
Those
would
all
be
covered
by
the
existing
mobile
home
ordinance.
Is
that
correct.
K
K
So
I'm
not
sure
that
a
park
owner
who
is
subject
to
local
zoning
in
mountain
view,
he
is
subject
to
a
conversion,
ordinance
and
zoning
codes,
so
he
won't
be
able
to
sell
part
of
his
property
and
not
part
of
his
other
property,
because
what
he
is
selling
mostly
is
ground
land,
not
the
mobile
homes.
So
there
are
one
or
two
parks
where
the
park
owner
also
owns
some
of
the
mobile
homes.
K
K
Yes,
we're
just
trying
to
add
the
tenants
to
it,
so
everybody
in
the
park
is
covered
and
not
just
the
mobile
home
owners
through
the
state
law,
but
because
we
have
this
situation
where
some
mobile
homes
are
also
rented
out
itself,
not
just
a
space
rent
but
mobile
home
rent.
We
wanted
to
cover
those
tenants
similar
to
how
we
cover
rental
unit,
tenants
that
fall
under
the
rent,
stabilization
regulations.
M
N
Hi
anki
thanks
a
lot
for
your
presentation
very
enlightening.
I
think,
unless
I'm
very
mistaken,
the
rental
housing
committee
had
a
chance
to
review
this
and
make
some
comment
or
recommendation
directed
at
our
city
council.
N
So
my
question
is
what
in
in
summary,
what
were
some
of
those
comments
or
inputs
that
the
rhc
made
and
also,
how
does
that
kind
of
in
what
ways
does
their
feedback
relate
to
the
feedback
that
we'll
be
providing
and
and
how
does
that
ultimately
flow
up
into
what
the
council
decides.
K
Yeah
good
question,
so
we
we
presented
this
to
the
royal
housing
committee
because
they're
the
ones
administrating,
the
mobile
home,
rent
stabilization
ordinance
and
all
the
practicalities
and
administration
of
the
tenant
relocation
assistance
ordinance.
So
we
would
like
to
share
this
with
them,
although
they
don't
have
a
formal
recommendation
authority
with
regards
to
the
trail.
K
So
this
is
just
for
their
information,
and
we
just
would
like
to
give
you
that
information
that
they
also
reviewed
it
and
will
want
to
forward
these
recommendations
to
the
epc
and
the
city
council.
O
Yes,
thank
you
for
explaining
such
a
complicated
thing
in
a
way
that
makes
it
easy
to
understand.
I
appreciate
that
I
had
just
one
quick
question
and
that
is
how
are
the
numbers
derived
three
months
rent?
I
kind
of
understand
that.
But
you
know
that's
one
question,
and
I
appreciate
that
in
2d
for
relocation
assistance
that
additional
funds
are
available
for
those
with
special
circumstances,
especially
if
a
whole
thing
is
the
whole
lot
is
being
sold.
O
There
are
just
that
much
fewer
alternatives
for
people
to
move
to,
especially
if
they
have
special
circumstances,
and
I
was
curious
where
the
8
000
came
from
just
to,
because
I
want
to
ensure
that
that
number
was
derived
in
a
practical
sense,
that
that
is
sufficient
for
people
to
be
able
to
use
to
find
someplace
else,
and
I
I
know
it's
not
just
a
random
number,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
just
go
into
that
bit.
K
So
it
happened
to
be
that
this
trail
has
been
revisited
by
city
council
pretty
much
every
two
years,
and
the
latest
revision
was
back
in
2020
where
the
city
council
looked
at
these
numbers
and
upped
the
income,
eligibility
and
and
also
upped
the
benefits
that
were
given
to
the
tenants
where
they
were
tenants
were
eligible
for
so
it
used
to
be
five
thousand
dollars
and
they
upped
it
to
eight
thousand
dollars
and
it
will
be
increased
every
year.
K
With
the
index
quota
for
this
area,
they
opted
with
a
certain
amount
to
be
able
to
provide
for,
if
necessary,
longer
periods
where
they
have
to
stay
in
the
area,
maybe
until
the
end
of
the
school
year
for
the
kids.
So
they
have
extra
money
to
rent
locally
versus
maybe
having
to
look
elsewhere.
K
K
So
they
get
the
three
months,
rent
a
comparable
rent
and
then,
on
top
of
that
they
get
the
eight
thousand
dollars,
which
is
another
two
months
of
rent
and
extra
cost
for
costs
that
they
have
to
make
on
top
of
what
normal
households,
without
special
circumstances,
have
to
make.
Okay
thank.
A
Other
commission
questions,
commissioner,.
F
Yes,
I
one
more.
Actually
it's
not
a
point
of
clarification,
but
just
one
more
question
right
with
me,
so
alex
brought
up
the
issue
about
what
language
was
used
for
from
the
rental
housing
committee
and
how
that
that
was
exemplified
and
this
process
and
how
it's
going
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
My
quick
question
to
you
just
related
to
that
is
when
I
look
at
exhibit
1
the
draft
ordinance,
I'm
ending
articles
13
of
the
zoning,
the
red
line
what's
been
added
in.
F
F
A
Just
one
question
that
I
have
it
wasn't
clear
to
me,
and
maybe
this
is
something
that's
embedded
elsewhere
in
the
you
know:
mobile
home
orders
is
there
a
period
of
time,
so
someone
takes
a
position
short
term
working
in
florida
and
they
rent
their
unit
out
for
a
year
when
they
come
back.
Does
that
tenant
now
eligible
for
trail.
A
K
Yes,
actually,
yes,
so
if
you
look
at
and
and
it
needs
to
fall
under
one
of
the
four
just
causes
right,
so
let
me
go
back
to
and
now
we're
going
more
deep
into
the
mobile
home
rent
stabilization
ordinance.
K
There
are
four
just
causes
that
are
not
that
are
a
no
fault
for
the
tenant
causes,
but
that
are
more
due
to
landlord
actions,
and
one
is
that
you,
the
one
that
you
mentioned,
would
be
an
owner
move
back
in
right,
so
he
rented
out
his
apartment
and
now
he's
going
to
give
a
termination
notice
to
the
tenant
because
he's
an
owner
moves
back
in.
So
yes,
their
tenants,
depending
on
their
income
level,
might
be
eligible
for
tenant
relocation,
assistance.
K
So
under
rent
stabilization
ordinances,
both
the
mobile
home
and
also
the
the
regular
rent
apartment,
there
are
only
in
total,
eight
reasons
for
which
you
can
terminate
a
tenant
and
not
renewing
a
lease
is
not
a
right
to
terminate
a
tenant
anymore.
K
K
A
B
Yeah
we
have
three
I'll
start
with
anna
marie.
So
one
moment,
while
I
set
the
timer
up.
P
Thank
you
so
much.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
discuss
this
issue
here
tonight.
It
is
needed
also
very
appreciated.
P
Also
thank
you
to
staff
for
all
of
their
hard
work
and
the
presentation.
The
mountain
view.
Mobile
home
community,
has
a
large
population
of
seniors,
disabled
persons,
veterans,
families
with
children
and
low-income
residents.
P
This
is
just
one
example
of
a
resident
with
special
circumstances.
My
mom
is
a
disabled
senior
and
it
would
be
incredibly
difficult
and
time
consuming
to
find
comparable
and
suitable
housing
that
would
accommodate
her
special
needs.
She
suffered
a
fall
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
is
back
in
the
hospital
and
is
currently
recovering
from
surgery
on
her
leg.
Thankfully,
we
have
great
neighbors
that
rushed
over
to
help
her
and
an
amazing
social
worker
from
csa
that
was
able
to
help
me
take
her
to
the
emergency
room.
P
P
We
hope
we'll
be
able
to
stay
here
for
years
to
come,
and
I
think
every
single
mobile
home
resident
deserves
all
the
relocation
protections
as
many
as
possible,
but
in
particular
people
with
special
circumstances
should
not
hatch.
There
should
be
an
elimination
of
all
means
testing.
P
There
should
be
extended,
noticing
requirements
for
senior
first
people
with
special
circumstances,
a
full
refund
of
security
deposits,
full
release
from
one's
lease
upon
notice
of
potential
displacement
and
a
first
right
of
refusal
for
sell
and
or
return
as
a
renter.
I
thank
you
and
thank
you
all
so
much
and
have
a
good
night.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
felia.
I
Hi
yeah,
I
am
a
senior
I
live
in
the
santiago
villa
I
from
my
honolulu
and
but
I
do
know
a
lot
of
tenants.
There
are
about
200
mobile
homes
within
sahara
and
who
have
tenants
who
will
rent
their
homes.
I
The
things
that
I
worry
about
for
them
is
things
like
the
incoming
requirements.
You
know
things
have
changed
for
seniors.
A
lot
of
seniors
end
up
working
for
a
certain
period
of
time
and
they
might
be
off
for
a
year
and
one
per
year.
That
happened
to
me.
I
I
was
very
low
income
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
and
this
if
they
were
forced
out
of
their
homes
with
one
of
those
four
reasons
they
might
be
on
a
it
might
be
during
the
year
when
they
are
working,
and
that
would
be
they
would
be
totally
disadvantaged
because,
unlike
most
people
who
are
well,
I'm
not
sure
about
most,
but
your
typical
renter
is
somebody
who
has
a
regular
income
and
seniors.
Don't
necessarily
have
that.
I
So
that's
kind
of
a
worrisome
thing
that
income
requirement.
You
know,
I
know
for
myself,
I'm
working
I'm
doing
fine
and
I
would
be
okay,
but
you
know,
and
especially
another
problem
that
seniors
have
is
that
they
have
a
lot
of
stuff
and
if
it's
very
hard
for
seniors
to
and
if
they're
disabled,
on
top
of
it,
it's
a
real
struggle.
I
So
I
I
kind
of
wanted
you
to
think
about
those
particular
tenants,
and
I
know
there
are
many
many
of
them.
I
know
several
myself
who
have
had
their
fortunes
waxed
and
wing,
so
this
could
be
particularly
difficult
for
some
of
the
people
who
are
covered.
H
All
right-
hey,
planning,
friends,
mobile
homeowner,
here
speaking
in
solidarity
with
my
neighbors,
who
rent
their
homes
being
this
place,
is
a
difficult
and
traumatic
experience
for
everyone
and
all
the
more
so
when
you're,
a
senior
or
disabled
or
have
other
life
issues
that
might
complicate
trying
to
find
a
new
place
to
live
a
trio
is
the
least
we
can
do
to
try
to
help
people
out
in
times
like
that,
to
try
to
keep
them
on
their
feet.
H
I
mean
everyone
here
knows
what
trauma
is,
like
I
mean
I'm
sure,
you've
all
known
people
who've
gone
through
moving
issues
and
who
have
been
forced
out
of
their
homes.
I
mean
I,
I
assume
everyone
knows
someone
like
that.
I've
seen
all
too
many
of
that
last
few
years
in
mobile
home
parks,
and
I
think
that
this
is
the
least
we
could
do
to
try
to
help
people
out.
Thank
you.
A
B
Guadalupe
and
as
a
reminder,
can
you
put
your
hands
down
after
you're
done
if
you're
done
speaking?
Thank
you.
J
Okay,
great
I'm
I'm
using
my
phone.
So
it's
okay!
It's
it's
a
little
difficult.
I've
never
called
via
my
phone,
so
I
wanted
to
apologize
for
the
earlier
call
or
a
little
comment,
because
I
thought
I
had
missed
the
section
where
you
guys
where
you
would
be
talking
about
this
item.
So
the
reason
for
my
call
is
to
give
you
an
example
of
what
it's
like
for
me
to
live
here
in
the
park.
J
J
It's
definitely
a
lot
of
money
and
although
the
end
they
have
kids
and
they
survive
and
they
make
it
and
they
love
love
living
here
and,
of
course,
our
latino
la
in
latina,
and
I
also
want
to
give
you
an
example
what
it's
like
to
work
in
for
union.
J
J
So
what
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
with
that
is
that
they
are
the
ones
the
most
vulnerable,
although
they
are,
although
they
love
this
community
because
they
love
their
schools,
that
their
kids
go
to
and
they're
vibrant
members
of
the
community.
Just
just
like
me,
I
mean
I
I
have.
I
have
a
beautiful
orange
tree
where
I'm
always
giving
out
oranges,
because
they're
really
sweet,
but
the
reason
why
I'm
telling
you
this
is
is
is
that
this
community
is
beautiful
and
we
love
it
and
we
hate
to
leave
this
community.
J
But
if
we
are
forced
to
leave
the
community,
I
implore
and
hope
that
you
would
fight
for
these
people
to
get
betray
you
money,
especially
for
people
who
are
at
certain
circumstances
where
it's
very
difficult
or
they
just
just
meet
the
they
meet
the
the
criteria
or
they
just
miss
the
criteria.
Sorry
about
that.
So
that
is
my
comment
for
today
and
I
want
to
thank
the
the
the
epc
and
the
staff
for
all
the
hard
work
they're
doing.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
Okay,
we
have
one
more,
it's
a
caller
with
blast
digits,
872.
Q
Yeah
thanks
so
much
for
all
your
efforts,
I'm
a
mountain
view
resident
living
in
one
of
the
mobile
home
parks,
just
to
clarify
the
numbers
that
we're
talking
about,
there's
about
200
rentals,
where
people
actually
rent
their
home
and
rent
this
space
from
the
landlord
and
over
the
last
two
years.
Q
There's
going
to
be
a
possibility
that
we're
going
to
sell
your
home
we're
going
to
remove
your
home
from
the
market,
all
kinds
of
potential
displacement,
so
that
b
has
been
placed
in
everyone's
bonnet.
If
you
will
and
is
buzzing
around,
and
a
lot
of
us
are
losing
sleep
because
we're
fearful
that
we're
going
to
lose
our
homes
and
treo
needs
to
do
everything
possible
to
prevent
that
in
the
event
that
that
tragedy
does
happen,
trejo
needs
to
cover
everyone
seniors,
disabled.
Q
Q
Being
displaced
from
your
home
is
right
up
there
with
losing
a
loved
one
or
losing
a
job
in
terms
of
stress
and
emotional
trauma,
so
I
beg
all
of
you
to
consider
that
we
need
major
enhancements
to
the
trail.
We
need
to
eliminate
all
means
testing,
particularly
for
seniors,
the
disabled
and
people
who
have
lived
in
their
homes
a
long
time
when
we
need
to
treat
this
as
a
potential
emergency
when
fema
goes
in
and
helps
people
that
have
lost
their
home
because
of
a
hurricane
or
a
tornado,
they
don't
mean
this
test.
Q
Q
Q
N
Hi
I'm
gonna
lower
my
hand,
so
definitely
I'm
very
appreciative
of
the
current
recommendation
and
the
current
makeup
of
the
trail.
Obviously,
having
heard
some
of
this
public
comment
and
actually
being
able
to
corroborate
for
myself,
you
know
having
seen
some
of
these
letters
that
have
in
fact
been
sent
to
to
residents.
N
You
know
I
I
can
definitely
you
know
I
I
I
have
a
a
strong
sense
of
empathy
and
sympathy,
for
you
know
the
you
know
what
some
might
call
harassment
that
our
mobile
home
residents
are
are
currently
under.
That
I
can
imagine,
definitely
would
create
a
lot
of
psychological
stress,
we're
hearing
from
the
people
living
through
this,
that
you
know
they're
losing
sleep
and
that's
not
just
the
cost.
N
You
know
in
terms
of
you
know
one's
own
mental
state,
but
in
terms
of
how
that
carries
through
into
your
whether
it's
your
work
life
or
your
other
initiatives
that
can
definitely
you
know,
create
some
some
lost
productivity
and
other
costs
there.
That
that
said,
I
don't
know
that
it's
you
know
possible
within
the
scope
of
trail
or
or
whether
you
know
it's
something
that
I
wouldn't
necessarily
feel
comfortable
pushing
for
within
this
discussion,
to
try
and
identify
a
way
to
end
landlord
harassment.
N
You
know
that
that
might
be
a
little
bit
difficult.
That
said,
I
also
want
to
kind
of
connect
some
of
the
dots
around
you
know.
We
heard
some
testimony
around
the
particular
difficulties
that
some
of
our
senior
residents
and
disabled
residents,
who,
specifically
you,
know
a
lot
of
times,
actually
intentionally
move
into
mobile
home
residences,
because
traditionally
they
are
seen
as
more
affordable.
N
You
know
that
that
is
a
population
that
I
feel
very,
very
sensitive
to
in
terms
of
their
not
just
economic
disposition,
but
their
actual
physical
ability
to
do
a
lot
of
the
things
that
many
of
us
just
take
for
granted
like
moving
a
box,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
I'd
like
to
throw
out
there.
For
you
know
this
deliberative
body
is
a
consideration
of
you
know
the
expenses
and
costs
associated
with
with
moving,
especially
for
the
special
circumstance
residents.
N
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
find
you
know
anki
very
informational
was
that
kind
of
highlighting
around
that
increase
to
the
trail
around.
You
know
you
know
trying
to
give
and
extend
an
opportunity
for
people
who
might
need
to
you
know
live
out
the
rest
of
the
school
year,
or
maybe
they
have
just
a
certain
circumstance
that
makes
it
harder
for
them
to
find
or
settle
into
a
new
residence
immediately.
N
I
find
that
very
important
because
you
know
as
far
as
the
relocation
assistance
goes,
you
know
that
pool
of
money
that
eight
thousand
dollars
that
residents
get
the
way
that
I
have
you
know
experienced
it
and
having
done
a
lot
of
this
ground
work
with
people
who
were
being
displaced
in
my
past,
you
know
my
experience
is
that
people
really
look
at
this
money
as
a
fund
that
they
save
for
when
they
need
to
go
out,
and
you
know,
try
and
resettle
in
another
place
and
try
and
afford
two
to
three
months
of
rent
and
and
be
able
to.
N
You
know
stabilize
their
residence
in
another
city,
and
so
what
I'd
like
to
you
know,
throw
out
there
and
try
and
get
some
support
for
here
is
a
additional.
You
know
kind
of
recommendation
to
the
city
council
to
consider
a
certain
stipend
for
specifically
for
moving
costs.
N
My
understanding
is,
you
know
back
in
2020
when
this
last
came
up.
There
was
some
you
know,
kind
of
thinking
around
the
I
believe
it's
caltrans,
you
know
kind
of
standard
index.
If
wayne
chan
is
still
here,
he
might
be
able
to
speak
to
this
around
the
formula
specifics,
but
there
there
is
a
formula
that
is
out
there
specifically
set
up
to.
You
know
help
cover
some
moving
costs.
N
It's
not
a
lot
it.
You
know
from
my
understanding
of
2014
numbers
from
2014.
N
It
was
set
at,
like
you
know,
a
thousand
bucks
if
you
move
more
than
50
miles
away
from
where
you're
being
displaced
from,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
it
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
just
to
give
people
an
opportunity
to
make
that
eight
thousand
dollar
pool
of
monies
available
for
stabilizing
residents.
You
know
in
order
for
us
to
try
and
help
them
preserve
the
value
of
that
money.
I
think
it
would
be.
N
You
know
very
beneficial
for
us
to
try
and
provide
just
that
little
bit
further,
more
assistance,
so
that
people
have
just
a
certain
amount
of
money
that
they
know
they
can
count
on,
even
if
it
doesn't
cover
all
of
it,
but
just
a
little
bit
of
money
they
can
have
to
hire
people
to
come
move
boxes
for
them
to
drive
the
u-haul.
N
A
K
So
with
this
amendment,
all
we
were
trying
to
do
is
incorporate
mobile
home
tenants
and
not
re-evaluate
all
other
conditions
in
the
trail
at
this
moment,
so
special
circumstances,
households
do
get
the
three
months
comparable,
rent
plus
the
8
000,
something
for
special
circumstances,
money
currently,
and
that
was
increased
in
2020
by
the
city
council.
A
Year,
andy,
did
you
have
a
comment
on
that
or
what
were
you.
L
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
had
a
comment.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
reinforce
what
funky
just
said
that
we
we
brought
this
ordinance
forward
because
of
specific
direction
from
council.
L
That
was
part
of
their
approval
of
the
mobile
home
rent
stabilization
ordinance,
and
they
asked
us
to
make
this
very
focused
and
discrete
change
to
cover
mobile
home
tenants
and
so
in
order
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible
staff
didn't
do
a
lot
of
additional
outreach
which
we
would
do
if
we
were
going
to
be
modifying
the
trail
as
applied
to
you
know
the
current
scope
of
the
trail,
which
are
you
know,
other
you
know,
landlords
and
rental
housing
throughout
mountain
view.
So
I
just
wanted
to.
L
I
think
these
comments
are
fine
and
I
think
they've
been
raised
through
the
process.
But
what
we
noticed
was
a
specific
amendment
to
the
trio
to
cover
mobile
home,
tenants.
S
Yes,
so
I'm
generally
okay
with
with
or
I
I'm
fully
on
board
with
the
with
the
staff
recommendation
here,
I
think
just
from
having
watched
the
council
meeting
last
year.
I
think,
as
staff
just
pointed
out,
the
the
goal
here
is
to
basically
get
mobile
homes
covered
by
the
by
the
trail
here
and
not
to
just
so
that
everything's
uniform
across
the
the
trey
oak
or
whether
you're
in
a
mobile
home
or
not
to
make
sure
that
mobile
homes
are
covered.
S
I
think
there
there's
merit
to
some
of
the
ideas
that
have
been
raised
and
they've
been
raised
in
the
past
when
the
council
looked
at,
you
know
amending
the
trajo,
but
I
I
would
hesitate
to
you
know,
go
down
the
route
of
you
know,
adding
stipends
or
removing
means
testing.
I
think
I
think
you
know
that
would
be
a
discussion
for
a
trail
change
broadly
across.
You
know,
because
seniors
live
not
just
in
mobile
homes,
but
in
in
other
units
that
are
covered
by
the
trail.
S
So
I
think,
I
think
the
direction
here
that
I'm
comfortable
with
is
just
what
what
staff
has
proposed
getting
the
getting
the
ordinance
in
place.
I
looked
through
the
the
red
lines
and
everything
based
on
the
recommendation
from
the
rhc
and
thought
everything
looked,
looked
reasonable
and
and
to
get
the
mobile
homes
covered
by
the
by
the
trio
so
I'll
be
supporting
staff
recommendation
when
it's
time
to
to
make
that
motion.
A
G
And
I
just
want
to
echo
what
commissioner
clark
said.
I
am
supportive
of
the
stack
of
recognization.
I
think
there
are.
There
are
certainly
valid
concerns
that
have
been
raised
tonight
in
this
part
of
trial.
More
broadly,
but
I'd
like
to
see
this
expedited
as
part
of
just
compliance
with
our
our
broader
trail
on
this
particular
section
and
segment
of
our
population.
O
Thank
you.
I
was
going
to
say
that
I
was
happy
that
sandy
miss
lee
had
clarified
that
I
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
the
mobile
home
renters
are
covered.
First
and
foremost,
that's
number
one,
and
if
we
just
add
in
you
know
that
with
the
next
trio,
what
is
it
called
change
that
these
things
were
brought
up?
That
would
be
very
useful.
I
think
thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
was
just
going
to
add
a
very
simple
comment,
which
is
that
looking
at
this
overall,
I
think
it's
a
very
reasonable
extension
of
existing
protections
for
renters.
I
don't
see
any
issues
and
it
feels
like
the
right
thing
to
do
so
I'll
be
supporting
it
today
as
well.
F
F
So
the
goal
is
to
basically
have
uniformity
across
the
line
so
that
you
have
protections
that
were
on
the
side
of
apartment
renters,
for
example,
also
be
extended
over
to
the
mobile
home
community,
which
is
great
so
in
terms
of
that,
and
from
that
perspective
I
agree
with
the
rest
of
the
colleagues
here
on
that
that
I'll
be
in
support
of
this
amendment.
N
Yeah,
I
definitely
want
to
thank
sandy
for
that
as
well.
For
that
clarification,
I
also
feel
pretty
comfortable
with
the
staff
recommendation,
as
is
and
I'll
be
supporting
that,
and
I
also
appreciate
everyone's
considerations.
N
A
Everyone's
broken,
the
only
my
only
time
would
be
ib.
I
support
the
idea
of
incorporation
with
the
existing
trail.
I
would
be.
I
would
actually
be
very
concerned
about
proposing
something
that
would
be
different
for
the
mobile
homes,
from
the
rest
of
the
rental
community
and
and-
and
I
think
any
any
discretionary
lines
would
actually
actually
be
in
the
context
of
a
bunch
of
much
broader
trio
discussion.
So
I'm
comfortable
with
what
staff
has
proposed
and
we'll
be
supporting
this,
and
so
I
would
sounds
like
everybody.
S
Yeah
so
I'll
move
that
the
epc
recommend
that
the
city
council
adopt
an
ordinance
amending
article
13
of
chapter
36
of
the
mountain
view,
city
code
related
to
tenant,
relocation,
assistance
to
provide
tenant
relocation,
assistance
benefits
and
a
first
right
to
return
to
mobile
home.
Tenants
who
rent
a
mobile
home
in
a
mountain
view,
mobile
home
park.
B
Okay,
commissioner
clark
aye,
commissioner
dempsey.
M
A
So
we
will
then
move
on
to
item
number
six
and
our
agenda.
6.1
is
a
study
session
regarding
189
north
bernardo
avenue
project.
We
start
with
a
presentation
from
chris
burke
project
planner
and
rebecca
shapiro,
deputy
deputy
zoning
administrator.
D
The
proposed
project
is
located
at
the
corner
of
bernardo
avenue
and
central
expressway
in
the
east
wizard
and
precise
plan.
It
includes
a
new
office
building
and
a
parking
garage
on
an
existing
office
site.
The
miner
and
minor
facade
modifications
are
proposed
on
the
existing
two-story
office.
Building
to
remain
the
project
is
proposing
to
use
28
000
square
feet
of
lasd
tdrs.
D
Sandhill
received
authorization
from
council
to
submit
a
project
as
part
of
the
los
altos
school
district
tdr
program
in
2018.,
the
east
wisman
precise
plan
was
under
development,
as
the
project
was
in
the
planning
process.
The
drc
reviewed
the
project
last
month
and
its
recommendations
are
listed
in
the
staff
report.
D
There
are
several
topics
outlined
in
the
staff
report
and
I'll
briefly
touch
on
these.
Today,
the
precise
plan
requires
publicly
accessible,
open
space
amenities
which
this
project
is
providing.
These
include
publicly
accessible
areas
noted
with
red
asterisks
and
the
multi-use
path
and
paseo
highlighted
in
red
through
the
site.
D
Due
to
constraints
explained
in
the
staff
report,
the
project
is
seeking
exceptions
for
the
multi-use
path,
standards
and
paseo
standards
shown
in
red.
The
drc
generally
supported
the
proposed
site
plan,
but
has
many
recommendations
to
improve
the
design
and
bring
the
project
into
further
compliance
with
the
multi-use
path
standards.
D
The
project
is
proposing
to
remove
74
heritage
trees.
The
majority
of
the
trees
on
the
site
are
unhealthy,
trees
and
noted
for
removal
and
red
on
this
sheet.
Green
dots
indicate
healthy,
preserved
trees,
yellow
dots,
indicate
healthy
trees
proposed
for
removal
and
purple
dots
indicate
the
16
healthy
trees,
nine
of
which
are
heritage
trees.
That
staff
believes
could
be
saved
with
the
measures
outlined
in
the
stack
report,
including
changes
to
the
building
footprint,
reduced
parking
and
further
exceptions
to
multi-use
path,
standards.
D
The
drc
recommends
the
applicant
study
modifications
to
propose
facade
design
to
better
achieve
the
design
objectives,
belight
floating
glass
building
that
reflects
the
curved
movement
along
central
expressway.
The
drc
also
recommends
further
relationship
between
the
ground,
floor
design
and
proposed
open
space.
These
recommendations
and
more
are
summarized
in
the
staff
report.
D
The
parking
garage
is
located
at
the
east
corner
of
the
site
and
includes
two
levels
of
underground
parking.
The
facade
is
mostly
quad
and
metal
fins
and
a
green
screen
at
the
lower
levels,
as
well
as
graphic
printed
screen
on
the
north
facade.
Drc
recommendations
are
summarized
in
the
staff
report.
D
D
T
T
I
apologize
it
dropped
off.
My
name
is
steve
lynch,
I'm
with
sandhill
property
company.
I
am
the
applicant
and
we
are
the
property
owner
for
189
bernardo.
So
thank
you,
mr
burt,
for
the
for
the
staff
report.
It
was
fairly
complete.
They
we
do
have
a
very
brief
presentation
tonight.
I
will
only
shortly
add
before
that.
T
Sorry
one
second
here
we
have
been
working
on
this
site
for
a
little
over
three
years,
I'm
including
with
mr
anderson,
when
the
when
the
east
was
precise,
plan
was
coming
through,
and
I
will
say
that
we
are
a
little
bit
delayed
coming
in
front
of
you
primarily
from
a
couple
of
issues
number
one
is.
We
have
had
some
issues,
locating
the
trail
on
our
property.
It
is
a
little
bit
of
a
difficult
site,
but
at
the
time
we
were
trying
to
coordinate
with
the
property
owner
to
the
north.
T
T
If
you
will,
unfortunately,
we
actually
own
on
these
the
other
side
of
bernardo,
which
is
280
bernardo,
we
own
that
property
as
well.
We
redeveloped
that
we
also
made
way
we
removed
parking
spaces
and
some
landscaping
so
we're
at
whichever
side
that
trail
ultimately
lands
on
we're
going
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that.
So
that's
that's
the
good
news
but,
as
mrs
burke
said,
there's
quite
a
few
trees.
T
Unfortunately,
that
are
in
the
in
the
way
kind
of
no
matter
which
way
we
go
here.
So
we're
prepared
to
be
flexible,
no
matter
where
mountain
view
and
sunnyvale
land
and
then
finally,
is
the
los
altos
school
district
tdr.
So
that's
been
all
sort
of
a
bit
of
a
long
saga,
but
I
think
we
kind
of
have
arrived
at
a
pretty
good
conclusion
on
that
for
our
site.
T
B
U
I
think
you
know
from
our
standpoint
that
we'd
love
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
We
do
have
some
slide
decks
that
we
can
refer
to
that
relate
to
the
architecture
or
the
site.
Landscaping
and
probably
in
the
interest
of
time
and
and
the
best
thing
for
the
commission's
time
is
to
maybe
do
it
that
way.
A
Right
so
as
a
study
session
first
thing
we
do
is
take
it
out
for
a
public
comment
first
and
then
bring
it
back
to
the
commission.
So
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
put
a
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
star
six
epc
clerk
will
start
the
timer
and
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up
nlr.
B
Yes,
we
do
have
one
bruce,
I'm
gonna,
allow
you
to
talk.
V
Okay,
do
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yeah,
great
okay,
thank
you.
Yeah
bruce
england.
Speaking
for
mountain
view,
coalition
for
sustainable
planning
and
green
spaces
mountain
view.
We've
been
commenting
during
the
drc
process,
so
those
on
the
project
team
will
know
we'll
be
very
familiar
with
these
comments,
and
I
see
rebecca
shapiro
on
him
too
and
she's
familiar
with
these
comments
as
well.
V
We're
concerned
about
the
trees,
of
course,
and
we
understand
some
of
the
challenges
and
that
there
are
some
problems
with
the
existing
trees,
but
just
in
general,
we
want
to
see
as
many
existing
trees
preserved
and
any
new
plantings
be
native
drought-tolerant
and
pollinator-friendly
choices,
and
then
I
have
four
other
general
comments.
One
is
that
the
new
building
has
a
lot
of
glass
paneling,
which
poses
issues
for
birds
and
other
flying
animals
and
for
heat
and
cooling
and
light
leakage
to
the
outside.
V
So
we'd
like
to
see
any
additional
considerations
to
the
design.
Take
that
into
account
and
second
of
four
active
design
elements
being
emphasized
to
emphasize
stairways
over
elevators.
That's
just
considered
active
design
and
then
on
the
bernardo
under
crossing
yeah.
That's
so
there
are
multiple
projects,
there's
this
one
and
then
there's
the
under
crossing
with
mountain
view
and
sunnyvale,
getting
that
to
connect
on
the
east
side
of
bernardo
rather
than
the
west
side,
is
going
to
take
the
best
advantage
of
the
public-facing
amenities
in
the
corner
of
189
bernardo
and
that
project.
V
Some
of
the
speed
limits
around
there
are
problematic
that
it
goes
from
45
to
50
miles
an
hour
along
central,
and
I
don't
have
the
diagram
in
front
of
me,
but
the
speeds
on
bernardo
also
seemed
high
to
us
and
the
wayne
the
lane
widths
on
bernardo
also
seemed
wider
than
they
necessarily
ought
to
be
11
feet.
10
feet
would
be
better
and
then
fireplaces
on
site.
If
they
do
put
those
in
to
please
make
them
electric
and
not
gas.
V
V
A
B
A
F
Good
question
here
in
terms
of
the
trees
that
are
possibly
salvageable,
I
read
through
the
documentations
that
were
sent
to
us,
but
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
saw
where
exactly
would
they
be
placed,
would
they
be
relocated
within
the
same
said
project
or
how
would
that
be
handled.
D
So
no
these
trees
well,
first
of
all
staff
and
the
applicant
are
looking
into
the
possible
relocation
of
some
of
the
trees,
but
none
have
been
determined
for
good
candidates
at
this
point,
but
that
is
something
that
we're
looking
into
the
purple
trees
noted
here
are
the
16,
healthier
trees
noted
in
the
arborist
report.
The
staff
believes
that,
with
some
smaller
changes
to
the
site,
design
could
be
saved.
D
G
U
Yeah,
I
think
if
we
could
bring
up
the
renderings,
clarissa
or
or
give
us
control,
and
maybe
rashna
can
help
me
bring
him
up.
Whichever
works
best.
D
U
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
and
we
have
taken
this
this
into
consideration
in
the
design.
Here
you
can
see
rendering
from
from
central
expressway
looking
back
east
sort
of
northeast,
but
the
glass
will
be
a
combination
of
fritted
glass,
texture
glass
that
will
be
consistent
with
design
principles,
recent
design
principles
for
bird
safety,
glass-
and
that
was
an
important
part
of
our
presentation
and
design
to
the
drc.
T
And
I,
I
would
only
briefly
add
that
we
had
arab
study,
our
birth,
safe
class,
and
they
came
up
with
several
recommendations
for
different
glass
types
that
would
work
for
bird,
safe
design
from
sand
hills
side.
This
is
certainly
not
our
first
glass
office
building
and
this
is
not
a
unique
comment,
so
we're
obviously
very
conscious
of
you-
know,
bird
safe
design.
So
this
is
a
pretty
pretty
standard
sort
of
recommendation
in
terms
of
fritted
glass
design.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Sorry,
a
small
question
and
a
large
question.
My
small
one
is:
what
exactly
is
going
to
go
into
those
popas?
Are
you
going
to
keep
the
basketball
half
court
on
that
that
little
one
in
the
corner?
What's
going
to
look
like
over
on
the
bernardo
side,
if
you
just
have
more
detail,
you
can
share
I'd
love
to
hear
it.
U
W
Sure,
maybe
if
we
zoom
in
on
the
multi-use
court
on
the
left
there
now
we're
looking
to
have
a
half
court
basketball
that
can
also
serve
as
other
sport
amenities
there
and
we
are
studying
how
to
make
this
feel
more
open,
more
welcoming
to
people
who
would
be
accessing
it
off
of
the
the
trail.
We
heard
that
clearly
from
drc.
We
have
some
good
ideas:
how
to
respond
to
that
to
really
make
that
feel
like
it
is
more
of
a
public
amenity
space.
W
Likewise,
as
we
go
to
the
center
portion
of
the
project,
we
had
comments
also
now
looking
at
how
to
make
this
central
space
more
inviting
you
can
see,
there's
at
the
top
of
the
screen
there
there's
some
bike
lockers,
which
were
effectively
creating
kind
of
a
barrier
actually
just
north
of
there
we
go
there's
a
bike
lockers
there
was
sort
of
pinching
down
the
access
area
and
really
not
creating
as
welcoming
a
space
as
possible
there,
and
so
we're
looking
to
reconfigure
that
area
to
create
a
more
gener,
generous
and
welcoming
space
that
would
bring
people
into
the
into
the
courtyard
area.
W
There's
a
number
of
existing
trees
in
that
area
that
we're
able
to
preserve,
which
will
really
help
to
enhance
the
character
of
that
environment
and
then
over
to
the
right,
there's
also
a
space
here
that
is,
we
developed
to
create
a
variety
of
outdoor
uses,
including
outdoor
barbecues,
seating
areas,
a
sculptural
element
out
on
the
street
to
create
a
nice
welcoming
gesture
to
bernardo
and
central
and
and
a
wall
behind
there
to
help
create
sort
of
a
seating
element
and
a
gathering
space
for
that
area.
W
U
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
add,
commissioner,
if
you,
if
you
now
take
a
look
at
the
overall
plan,
you'll
see
that
each
one
of
those
popo's
area
are
really
linked
off
of
the
the
new
access
trail,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
a
great
addition
to
that
area
and
they
they
literally
split
the
sites
at
really
walkable
areas,
as
well
as
nice,
visual
pieces
in
between
buildings
and
linking
linking
the
site
together.
U
As
you
know,
these
are
office
r
d
buildings
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
activity
on
the
weekend,
so
we're
hoping
that
the
public,
especially
with
the
residential
to
the
west
and
quite
a
bit
of
it,
we'll
utilize
some
of
these
off
this
new
trail.
Sorry,
so
I
just
wanted
to
add
that.
M
No,
that's
great,
I
think,
you're
headed
in
the
right
direction
for
sure
I
think
you
know
it's
very
easy
for
pedestrians
and
people
that
don't
work
there
to
assume
that's
private
property.
It's
real
easy
that
barbecue,
the
barbecue
thing
you
have
over
going
on
on
the
right,
I'd,
walk
by
that
and
completely
assume
that
was
private
property.
M
So
I
think
the
the
comments
I
think
you've
got
the
idea,
but
signage
and
design
there's
lots
of
things
you
can
do,
but
you
really
got
to
make
it
obvious
that
people
are
welcome
there,
because
otherwise
people
can
walk
white
right
by
it
and
that's
just
a
waste.
People
need
more
green
space,
so
whatever
you
can
do
to
to
really
like
shine
a
light
on
those
three
spaces,
so
people
feel
welcome.
There,
I
think,
is
a
really
smart
thing
to
do.
M
The
other
question
that
I
have
this
is
it's
almost
not
even
it
almost
doesn't
even
pertain
to
your
building.
It's
really
a
question
about
the
precise
plan
in
the
staff
report.
It
said
that
there
is
there's
the
jobs,
housing
linkage
program
for
the
entire
entirety
of
east
whistler,
but
that
this
pro
this
particular
building
was
grandfathered
out
of
it
because
of
the
tdr
right.
Do
I
have
that
correctly.
D
Yes,
so
the
tdr
program
moved
forward
and
these
gatekeepers
were
authorized
prior
to
the
jobs
housing
linkage
being
incorporated
into
the
east
lisbon,
precise
plan,
and
so
most
of
the
tdrs
that
are
coming
from
the
lasd
site
are
actually
coming
to
east
whistman.
So
it's
something
that
the
council
considered
very
carefully.
So
it's
not
specific
to
this
site.
It's
the
all.
D
The
tdr
projects
in
east,
fisman
and
so
council
did
decide
when
they
incorporate
the
job
housing
linkage
program
into
the
east
wisman
precise
plan
to
grandfather
in
these
gatekeepers
that
had
already
been
authorized
through
the
lasd
tdr
program.
If
you
have
any
further
questions
about
the
jobs
housing
linkage,
eric
anderson
would
be
able
to
answer
those.
M
Great
because
the
really
the
question
that
I
have-
and
this
is
more
for
my
own
education
than
it
really
is
a
comment
about
this
particular
project-
is-
I
just
want
to
understand-
you
know
if,
since
the
tdr
program
predominates
here
for
this
project,
just
remind
me,
you
know
what
is
it
that
the
school
district
is
getting
from
this
particular
development
and
just
theoretically,
if
the
jobs
housing
linkage
program
had
predominated
here,
I'm
curious
to
know
what
else
the
developer
would
have
had
to
do
to
be
compliant
with
that
program
within
the
east.
D
And
so
what
the
city
of
mountain
view
did
to
collaborate
with
the
school
is
allowed
them
to
sell
those
development
rights
that
they're
not
planning
on
using
that
additional
far
to
private
developers
and
through
this
whole
program
there
was
a
gatekeeper
meeting
and
council
authorized
those
tdrs
to
be
moved
to
certain
sites
throughout
the
city,
most
of
them
being
in
east
lisbon,
and
so
the
it
not
only
allows
the
school
site
through
this
program
and
allowed
the
lasd
to
take
over
that
school
site.
D
C
So
if
I
could
just
interject
for
a
moment,
sort
of
maybe
more
importantly
than
funds
for
school
construction,
but
what
the
tdr
program
gave
was
a
funding
source
for
lasd
to
leverage
in
order
to
acquire
land.
C
I
think,
as
as
the
environmental
planning
commission
probably
knows,
land
in
mountain
view
is
very
expensive
and
competitive
to
acquire,
and
so
what
you
know
the
city
heard
from
lasd
as
well
as
community
members
during
the
san
antonio
precise
plan
process,
was
sort
of
two
things,
one
that
it
was
a
very
competitive
market
and
lasd
was
seeing
a
demographic
change
in
mountain
view,
that
was
affecting
student
generation
and
identifying
a
need
for
an
additional
school
site.
C
And
what
we
heard
from
community
members
was
that
you
know
crossing
el
camino
was
a
big
barrier
to
getting
students
to
school
and
that
that
there
was
great
demands
for
an
additional
school
site
that
was
located
in
mountain
view,
and
so
the
the
city
did
not
have
sort
of
land
to
to
sort
of
contribute
to
the
cause.
C
But
we,
what
we
were
able
to
do
was
collaborate
with
the
los
altos
school
district
to
develop
the
tdr
program,
which
sort
of
was
a
sort
of
a
statement
of
commitment,
as
well
as
a
a
resource
for
generating
revenue
to
acquire
choir
property
to
develop
a
school
in
mountain
view
to
serve
serve
students
in
the
san
antonio
area,
so
that
that
is
sort
of
the
genesis
of
the
vr
program
and
and
what,
with
the
alias
what
lasd
is,
is
sort
of
seeing
benefits
from
projects
like
this
proceeding
through
our
process.
R
E
Yeah
just
to
follow
up
on
the
kind
of
what
if
they
had
been
required
to
do
it
question.
So
if,
if
they
had
been
required
to
do
the
jobs
housing
linkage
program,
they
would
have
had
to
find
a
residential
developer
to
partner
with
and
the
reality
of
these
private
partnership
markets.
Is
that
they're
very
uncertain
they
are,
and
especially,
if
you're
already
a
project.
You
know,
that's
that's
already
kind
of
laid
your
cards
on
the
table
of
what
you're
actually
going
to
do.
E
It
makes
it
very
difficult
to
go
and
find
a
a
developer
that
is
not
going
to
kind
of
take
all
the
value
out
of
your
project
right
in
this
kind
of
private
negotiation
market.
So
we
would
imagine
that,
in
the
by
by
requiring
these
projects
that
were
already
in
the
door
to
partner
with
a
residential
developer,
they
would
almost
certainly
leave
the
tdr
program
completely.
O
Thank
you.
I
had
several
questions
and
I
may
just
chop
it
up,
so
other
people
get
a
chance.
I
have
great
sympathy.
There's
a
lot
of
challenges
in
this
particular
lot
between
the
precise
plan,
what
we're
aiming
to
get
from
the
city
and
from
what
I
I
see
that
the
property
owner
wants
to
do
with
it.
I
I
do
have
several
questions.
They
seem
unrelated,
but
I'll
get
to
how
they
relate
later.
O
R
J
D
So
on
this
screen
is
the
extent
of
the
areas
being
studied
for
the
bernardo
under
crossing
project.
So
at
this
point,
while
I've
been
told
that
the
under
crossing
coming
through
here
and
coming
up
on
this
project
site
or
near
this
project
site
is
favored,
there
are
still
studying
options
of
having
it
come
up
over
here
and
there
are
two
options
for
it
coming
up
on
the
west,
which
would
be
this
project
site.
D
And
so
you
see
that
this
would
be
the
ramp
that
you're
referring
to.
And
yes,
we
would
need
a
pretty
extensive
ramp.
The
plan
is
for
the
path
to
be
16
feet
wide,
which
is
pretty
substantial.
D
And
then
this
is
another
option.
That's
been
been
considering
being
considered
here,
so
they
changed
the
middle.
But
here
it's
the
same
on
this
project
site.
D
So
that's
the
ramping,
that's
envisioned
all
of
it
with
the
ramps
coming
up
at
the
corner,
but
really
continuing
along
quite
a
length
of
this
project.
D
Yes,
so
they
would
so
if
you
look
here,
this
is
a
zoomed
in
shot,
and
this
is
the
the
tree
diagram
and
zoomed
in
this
red
line.
Here
is
the
property
line,
and
then,
if
you
see
faintly
here
underneath
that
is
the
multi-use
path,
so
the
proposed
multi-use
path
comes
right
up
against
the
property
line
and
the
rest
is
the
caltrans
right
away,
and
so
the
path
would
actually
ramp
up
here.
Directly
adjacent
come
up
right
here
and
then
the
multi-use
path
would
continue
right.
There.
O
Basically,
okay,
I
understand
now
so
sort
of
like
a
switchback.
If
you
were
to
cross,
come
up
and
then
go
to
the
east
exactly
okay,
so
then
the
popa
doesn't
really
get
removed.
In
that
sense,
correct.
C
In
in
either
the
scenarios,
it
looks
as
though,
if
anything
that
sort
of
public
corner
space
gets
slightly
expanded
because
there's
sort
of
a
curved
line.
That's
that
encompasses
where
the
ramp
comes
up
within
the
central
expressway
right
away.
D
Right,
it
would
ramp
right
here
and
what's
noted
in
the
the
staff
report
that
I
think
you're
referencing
is
the
concern
that
these
trees
would
be
removed.
As
part
of
this,
this
ramping
and
that's
because
there'd,
be
extension,
extensive
excavation
that
would
occur
directly
adjacent
to
the
trees
and
kill
their
root
system.
O
Right
right,
yeah,
it's
unfortunate,
but
even
trees
aside,
I'm
just
trying
to
envision
what
the
final
end
product
would
look
like,
and
it
would
be
40
to
50
mile
hour
traffic
adjacent
to
a
big
wall
with
the
pedestrian
and
bike
path
coming
up
from
the
underpass
another
wall,
so
that
people
don't
fall
into
it
for
the
multi-use
path
right
adjacent
to
the
corners
of
the
building,
with
very
little
setback.
C
That
set,
but
there
there
would
be
some
sort
of
fall
barrier
between
sort
of
any
adjacent
pathway
and
the
ramp.
You
know,
typically,
the
you
know
the
minimum
dimensions
for
something
like
that
vertically
would
be
probably
about
42
inches.
Okay,.
O
And
I
understand
wanting
to
keep
an
existing
building
there
as
long
as
it's
got
life,
why
not
use
it,
but
a
question
for
the
the
property
owner
slash
developer
is
is:
are
there
any
plans
for
that
building
to
change
in
the
near
future?.
T
So,
thank
you
vice
chair
yeah,
so
there's
not
right
now,
so,
unfortunately,
the
building
is
stabilized
with
some
tenants
at
this
time
it
it's
so
the
answer
to
that
is
is
no
it's
viable.
You
know
30
years
down
the
line.
I
think
we
probably
would
consider
that,
but
the
building
is
built
in
the
early
80s,
so
it's
got
quite
a
bit
of
life
left
in
that
one
thought
it
would
offer
on
on
the
sunnyvale
under
crossing
by
the
way,
just
in
conversations
with
sunnyvale
and
and
mountain
view.
T
The
same
thing
there's
always
been
sort
of
this
there's
a
lot
of
east-west
connections
through
both
cities,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
north-south
connections,
particularly
from
the
different
neighborhoods.
So
even
though
I
think
any
of
us
would
say,
look
this
connection
maybe
isn't
ideal.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
treat
this,
but
to
get
this
connection
between
sunnyvale
mountain
view,
particularly
under
central
expressway,
which
unfortunately
is
just
sort
of
a
scar.
That's
just
cutting
right
through.
Even
I
would
say
this
is
a
pretty
important
crossing
so
commuters,
bicyclists
and
whatnot.
T
This
is
really
a
critical
north-south
crossing
and
I
understand
how
you
sort
of
outline
it
with
the
wall
upon
the
wall,
but
I
think
there's
actually
some
pretty
good
ways
to
make
it
work
to
make
it
look
good.
So
sunnyvale's
got
some
pretty
good
ideas.
They
will
eventually
bring
to
you.
So,
even
though
this
does
take
quite
a
bit
of
our
property,
I'm
convinced
a
little
bit.
It's
a
pretty
good
under
crossing.
So
this
is
my
two
cents
worth
on
it.
So.
R
O
Hear
me
talk
later
in
general,
I
am
for
it
more
is
better
than
less,
especially
since
you
know
in
general,
we
have
like
very
large
blocks
and
few
porosity
less
porosity
through
those
blocks
in
our
suburban
environment,
and
that
is
what
it
is.
However,
with
the
precise
plan,
we're
looking
to
do
more
of
you
know
the
connectivity,
so
I'm
all
for
that,
not
a
worry
there.
O
It
is
just
that
there
is
really
no
real
sort
of
buffer
between
central
expressway
and
the
multi-use
path
other
than
another
path
which
is
right
up
against
it,
and
I,
just
in
general
know
that
it's
a
little
uncomfortable
to
walk
next
to
traffic
going
that
quickly.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
you
know
put
it
into
my
head
and
since
it's
a
study
session,
it's
just
sort
of
bringing
things
up
now
and
not
much
later,
when
more
work
has
gone
into
it.
O
O
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
it's
the
sort
of
shortcut
instead
of
stopping
at
a
light
making
a
red,
I'm
sorry
making
a
right
on
a
green
or
a
red
like
you
would
at
a
typical
intersection
right
now
we
have
like
on-ramps
and
off-ramps,
because
central
is
an
expressway.
It's
sort
of
you
know
a
free,
a
small
freeway,
so.
T
Correct
those
slip
lanes
which
are
the
free
right-hand
turn
onto
bernardo
and
from
bernardo
back
to
central,
so
those
will
remain
so.
We've
talked
to
county
roads
and
airports
about
plans
to
modify
or
remove
those
and
they've
said
no.
Indeed,
there
are
no
plans
right
now,
so
if
in
the
future,
they're
interested
in
modifying
that
we're
happy
to
participate,
but
they
don't
have
any
plans
right
now.
They're
they're
interested
in
keeping
the
slip
lanes
in
place.
C
So
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
will
will
have
to
happen
as
part
of
that
under
crossing
project
is
coordination
with
with
county
with
the
santa
clara
county
roads
department
who
have
jurisdiction
over
the
intersections
of
central
expressway
with
other
local
roadway
systems.
So
yeah.
O
You
know
I
I
totally
see
the
challenge
in
having
all
these
puzzle
pieces
try
to
fit
together
and
not
even
doing
it
simultaneously
kind
of
gotta.
Do
it
one
at
a
time-
and
you
know,
there's
a
chain
effect
there.
Okay.
Another
question,
sorry,
so
you
guys
already
mentioned
it
that
the
property
to
the
north,
though
it
looks
like
similar
type
buildings
on
it,
is
a
different
property
owner
they're,
the
ones
that
are
coming
in
a
little
bit
late.
T
O
That's
just
my
own
take
that
maybe
this
question
is
for
staff
is
central
avenue
seen
as
the
front
or
is
the
bernardo
seen
as
kind
of
the
front
to
this
parcel.
D
From
a
design
perspective,
we're
viewing
it
all
as
the
front
anything
that
is
publicly
viewable
has
special
design
attention
and
the
precise
plan
specific
in
terms
of
setbacks
from
the
multi-use
path
and
central
versus
bernardo.
So
it
doesn't
call
out
typical
setbacks,
at
least
that
apply
to
bernardo
and
central
here
as
the
front
or
side.
So
that's
not
a
distinction
that
we
had
to
make,
but
anything
that
is
visible
from
the
public
right-of-way
we're
giving
that
special
design
attention
that
you
would
the
front
of
a
property.
O
When
I
look
at
the
design
of
the
site
plan,
it's
almost
as
if
the
surface
parking
is
the
front
in
the
way
that
the
public
open
spaces
are
designed,
it's
just
what
what
I
would
take
away
from
it
and
it
could
be
just
because
the
existing
building
is
shaped.
That
way
and
that's
the
room
you
have
left
over,
but
it
almost
feels
like
the
park.
Surface
parking
area
is
the
the
main
entry
for
all
the
buildings,
and-
and
I
know
this
is
not
an
area
where
we're
trying
to
make
it
super
urban
walkable.
O
It
still
feels
very
much
like
the
typical
sort
of
suburban
development
where
you
have
a
parking
lot
and
then
you
enter
from
the
parking
lot
into
the
building,
rather
than
prioritizing
the
walking
and
the
biking
and
having
wherever
the
pedestrians
and
bikes
be
be
the
front.
Does
that
make
sense?
That's.
U
Just
a
comment
yeah:
this
is
can
again
if
I,
if
we
could
bring
up
our
site
plan,
I
think
it
would
help
the
the
commission,
as
I
walk
through
this,
because
it's
a
really
good
question
when
we
started
off
the
design.
U
You
know
this
is
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
we
faced,
and
I
think
I
think
this
is
a.
This
is
a
good
plan
and
the
only
the
only
access
the
vehicular
access
that
we
can
have
is
off
bernardo.
So
we
can't
have
any
access
off
central
so
that
that
dictates,
that's
where
the
autos
will
go
and
what
we've
done
is.
We've
pushed
that
driveway
and
parking
all
the
way
to
the
far
north
end
of
the
property.
U
As
you
can
see,
and
we
have
only
visitor
parking
in
front
of
these
in
front
of
these
buildings,
so
they
will
become,
I
think,
beautiful
parking
courts.
You
can
see
some
of
the
high-end
pavement
textures
that
we've
used
to
break
up
the
massing
of
the
parking.
U
It's
not
a
lot
of
parking
stalls,
but
it
feels
like
visitor
parking
and
then
directional
signage
for
the
vehicle.
Vehicular
traffic
will
all
go
back
to
the
garage,
and
so
everything
will
park
in
the
garage
and
under
the
new
building,
which
we
think
will
be
very
energy,
efficient,
compact
and-
and
you
know
at
that
point
of
the
site.
What
we've
done
differently
here
is:
we've
opened
out
a
ceremonial
entrance
on
the
north
side,
but
more
than
that,
we've
now
opened
entrances
to
the
pedestrian
path.
U
So
we
have
full
see-through
or
full-cross
pedestrian
walkway
access
through
the
building
in
what
we
call
a
pass-through
lobby.
So
you
can
enter
from
one
side
of
the
building,
walk
to
the
elevator
course
and
stair
core
in
the
center
of
the
building
and
you'll
be
able
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
building
in
both
directions.
I
think
that's
pretty
unique.
It's
almost
very
urban.
U
O
Well,
yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
the
description
of
it
it.
It
does
just
highlight
sort
of
the
the
idea
that
the
front
is
very
much
sort
of
where
the
parking
is,
but
I
am
glad
to
to
know
that,
with
that
divot
in
the
proposed
building
in
the
middle
that
there
is
an
entry
off
the
the
trail,
the
multi-use
trail,
though
I
don't
think
anyone
from
the
public
is
actually
going
to
enter
the
building
to
go
through
just
because
I
think
most
people
see
when
they
see
doors
or
not.
O
C
C
And
so
there
there
is
a
somewhat
more
suburban
layout
to
be
expected,
which,
on
this
particular
site,
is
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
exacerbated
by
the
fact
that
they
are
preserving
that
existing
building.
You
know
if
we
were
dealing
with
a
you
know
a
clean,
fresh
site,
which
is,
I
think,
unheard
of
in
mountain
view.
Then
I
think
there
might
be
some
different
design
decisions
that
we
would
we
would
make,
but
it
I
think
it's
a
it's
an
app
characterization
and
I
I
do.
C
I
do
believe
that
the
design
team
and
staff
are
are
doing
what
we
we
can
to
you
know
alert
you
know,
be
alert
to
the
issue
of
entry
into
the
site
and
and
how
public
public
access
can
be
facilitated.
Okay,.
O
And
thank
you
very
much
I
this
is
where
I
totally
empathize
with
the
challenge.
I
totally
see
where
the
limitations
are
and
the
difficulties
given
that
certain
pieces
can't
move,
but
I'm
just
highlighting
sort
of
these
challenges,
so
that
council
is
also
aware-
and
just
in
general,
for
the
design
team
to
to
take
note.
O
If
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
northwest
connections,
I
understand
the
major
popa
is
sort
of
hidden
behind
the
existing
building.
It's
the
shape
of
the
building
that
it
is
we're
not
changing
it
much,
and
I
can
see
that
that's
the
reason
for
that.
However,
getting
to
that
area
is
a
little
bit
narrower
and
it's
also
blocked
by
the
bike
lockers.
So
it's
narrowed
even
further,
so
that
really
only
one
third
of
that
path
is
visible
from
the
multi-use
path.
So
it
sort
of
feels
like
it's
all
walled
off.
O
O
One
question
also
is
whether
or
not
you
need
the
whole
second
row
of
surface
parking
since
you're
building
the
parking
garage
can
most
can
some
of
those
other
than
the
handicap
spaces
and
move
into
the
parking
garage
and
that
way
you'd
get
another
chunk
of
space
to
give
over
to
whatever
it
is.
We
need
for
more
open
space
or
more
trees.
O
To
what
is
in
the
precise
plan,
I
know
there's
some
challenges
but
to
minimize
the
exception.
U
We
can
study
that.
I
think
I
think
in
reality
the
the
amount
of
stalls
there
would
be
in
such
a
low
percentage
compared
to
any
site
of
this
size
anywhere
in
the
community.
U
There's
just
you
know,
maybe
maybe
we
need
to
work
the
percentages
and
show
you
I
I
know
the
green
space
is
always
better
than
cars.
So
I'm
with
you
on
that
vice
chair,
and
so
I
want
to
look
at
that
second
row.
As
you
said,
the
the
north
side
of
the
site
is
there
anywhere
any
areas
that
we
can
add
some
additional
planting
there
and,
as
you
said,
move
those
stalls
in
the
garage.
So
we'll
take
a
look
at
that.
O
You
guys
have
been
working
really
hard
to
see
whether
or
not
the
multi-use
path
would
actually
go
in
that
direction
instead
of
around
central-
and
I
know
that
you
mentioned
all
the
challenges
to
doing
that,
but
that's
where
that
idea
came
from
is
whether
or
not
you
can
get
the
maybe
half
of
the
multi-use
path
one
way
direction
going
in
that
way
and
then
the
other
going
around
central
and
that
and
thereby
giving
more
space
for
trees
and
the
like,
I'm
not
sure,
just
thinking
of
alternatives.
A
N
Yeah,
so
I'm
also
feeling
pretty
I
don't
know,
the
word
is
like
sensitive
or
determined
to
make
it
more
clear
that
that
popa
is
actually
a
popa.
I
I
totally
know
and
feel
that
you
know
the
drc
is
extremely
professional
in
what
they're
doing
so,
not
overly
trying
to
second
guess
here,
but
you
know
when
I
look
at
this
rendering
I
I
definitely
you
know
put
myself
in
position:
okay,
I'm
walking
down
central.
N
Does
that
look
like
a
corporate
amenity,
or
am
I
clear
that
actually
I
can
go
in
there
and
get
some
use
out
of
it
and
it
just
really
doesn't
come
off
that
way.
So
I'm
I'm
very
like
I
want
to
add
to
that
concern
around
you
know
kind
of
what
commissioner
dempsey
and
yin
are
kind
of
speaking
to
in
terms
of
this
being
a
study
session,
and
you
know
having
alternatives,
I
guess
a
question
to
staff.
N
Probably,
and
then
maybe
whether
or
not
the
applicant
is
even
you
know
what
the
applicant
would
think
about,
it
is
if
there
was
a
way
to
kind
of
shrink.
I
don't
know
if
the
technical
term
is
the
envelope
the
footprint,
the
footprint
of
the
building
by
trading
off
for
a
like
one,
additional
story
right.
So,
instead
of
like
four
making
it
five
and
thereby
you
can
kind
of
shrink
that
footprint
and
open
it
up
a
little
bit
more.
N
So
it's
clear
is
there
anything
around
the
precise
plan
general
plan
that
would
prevent
that?
First
of
all,
and
then
after
that
answer,
I
guess
you
know
would
be
up
to
you
know
the
applicant
or
or
other
commissioners.
If
that's
something
that
you
know,
they
found
interesting
as
a
trade-off
to
open
up
some
more
clear,
open
space.
D
The
first
thing
is
that
the
proposal
to
counsel
at
the
gatekeeper
authorization
hearing
was
for
a
four-story
building
and
the
proposed
building
at
four
stories
is
meeting
the
maximum
height
established
in
the
east
wisdom
and
precise
plan.
D
So
in
order
to
propose
an
additional
floor
of
this,
building,
staff
would
have
to
bring
the
project
to
another
gatekeeper
hearing
with
the
city
council,
and
I
will
state
that
there
are
provisions
within
the
tdr
portion
of
the
east
lisbon,
precise
plan
that
allow
height
exceptions
associated
with
the
tdr
square
footage
being
used
on
the
property,
as
it
is
a
higher
intensity
than
what's
envisioned
but
I'll.
Let
the
applicants
speak
to
the
feasibility
of
such
a
plan
and
redesign.
T
And
I'll
jump
in
so
thank
you,
commissioner
nunez.
This
is
actually
a
pretty
similar
question
that
I
had
posed
to
planning
commission
and
city
council
again
about
three
four
years
ago.
T
It
was
actually
more
the
the
city's
consultant
in
terms
of
who's
going
to
be
using
this
area
like
what
is
our
target
audience,
you
know,
is
it
bicycle
commuters?
Is
it
neighborhood?
Commuters
are
folks,
like
you
and
I
gonna,
come
through
on
the
weekends
and
use
this
open
space
area.
I
mean
that's,
certainly
all
possible,
because
we're
trying
to
design
this
like.
Who
are
we
targeting
this
for,
like
what
population
will
be
out
here
using
this
and
realistically
the
answer?
T
They
came
back
from
staff
and
the
consultant,
which
I
actually
firmly
believe
it's
really
going
to
be
used
by
a
daytime
worker
population
during
the
day.
So
it's
going
to
be
used
by
generally
folks
who
are
out
there.
You
know
once
you
know
everyone
sort
of
comes
back
to
work.
That
is,
you
know,
who's
out
in
this
area.
During
the
day,
they'll
know
where
this
open
space
is
they'll
know
where
the
usable
barbecue
features
are.
T
If
you
know
you're
going
to
sort
of
have
a
you
know,
company,
you
know
event
or
gathering
during
the
day
likely
it'll
be
used
by
the
property
to
the
north,
which
actually
has
a
fairly
significant
employee
population.
Up.
Thank
you
for
the
cursor
there.
It's
ranks
in
in
in
the
thousands
we're
gonna
have
connections
coming
from
our
property
to
there.
It
could
come
from
across
bernardo,
or
you
know,
north
and
bernardo
all
the
way
up
to
the
linkedin
property.
T
But
folks
will
know
this
property
is
here
it'll,
be
signed,
clearly
we'll
make
sure
that
it's
abundantly
clear,
really
so
that's
kind
of
our
target
population,
if
you
will
who
we're
designing
this
for,
is
sort
of
the
monday
to
friday.
The
five
day
week
crowd,
certainly
folks
from
the
neighborhood
east
westman,
there's
not
really
a
connection
to
the
east
whispering
neighborhood
at
this
point
in
time
it
could
be
in
the
future.
T
So
I
would
honestly
just
put
a
short
answer
to
you.
Probably
for
the
next
20
years
is
probably
going
to
be
the
workers
in
this
bernardo
area
who
are
going
to
be
the
target
population
using
this,
and
when
that
changes,
that's
probably
a
good
sign
to
reset
our
amenities
to
take
a
look
at
something
new
and
fresh
and
different,
but
understanding
that
I
think
it'll
be
a
little
more
obvious.
As
you
know,
our
the
workers
as
we're
out
and
about
in
our
areas.
T
You
know
we
understand,
what's
kind
of
open
and
accessible
to
us,
we
can
have
a
phone
call
or
a
meeting
or
a
working
meeting
down
in
this
area.
So
hopefully
that
shifts
a
little
bit
of
light
on
that.
U
U
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
will
be
looking
at
is
how
to
take
off
some
of
the
ground
floor
space
along
that
entire
area
there,
where
the
cursor
is
and
up
all
the
way
to
the
edge
of
the
building
to
the
right
and
pull
that
back
and
re
and
move
footage
up
onto
other
floors
that
that
we
can
to
still
remain
within
the
height
limit
as
as
clarissa
had
mentioned.
U
So
I
think
we've
got
good
direction
from
both
drc
and
now
now
your
your
commission
here
and
various
members
to
maybe
look
at
that
as
well
as
well
as
the
opening
up
of
these
these
passageways,
these
north-south
connections
really
making
them
open
inviting
to
to
whomever
whether
it's
employees
or
the
general
public.
I
I
totally
agree
that,
and,
as
does
does
the
gazardo
partnership,
we
need
to
make
these
clear,
accessible
and
as
pleasant
and
wide
as
we
can.
F
Thank
you,
chair,
well,
can
and
team
thanks
for
being
able
to
answer
our
questions.
Much
appreciate
it.
There's
a
lot
of
energy
and
talents
devoted
to
these
types
of
projects,
and
it
could
be
a
challenge
right
and
it
takes
time
so
friendly
suggestion.
Actually
a
quick
question:
how
many
people
do
we
have
viewing
this
presentation
now?
F
Can
anyone
tell
me
if
it's
like
less
than
30
or
40
or
23
23?
Okay?
So
it
sounds
like
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
do
some
outreach
within
the
neighborhood
too,
once
this
is
getting
going
in
terms
of
the
science
that's
going
to
be
posted
in
those
open
areas,
that's
going
to
be
community
accessible,
that's
great,
I'm
sure
they'll
be
clear
and
clean
so
that
people
can
see
that,
but
it
also
would
be-
and
maybe
you
already
have
this
in
mind
right.
F
So
if
you
do
bear
with
me
friendly
suggestion,
great
time
to
post
the
advertisements
up
on,
you
know,
mountain
view,
voice
or
the
swarming
area
mailers,
or
what
have
you
taken
on
a
page
informing
the
community
welcome
to
this
new
area
of
our
building
sites,
that's
open
to
the
community.
It's
there
for
your
use
with
clearly
stated
times
in
terms
of
usage
and
and
that
friendly
suggestion
of
opening
your
doors
to
the
community
that
way
might
be
able
to
help
right
and
in
general.
F
I
think,
there's
a
lot
more
to
be
able.
I
think,
there's
a
lot
more,
that
you
can
do
to
try
and
make
this
area
an
example
of
what
a
business
park
slash
community-minded
city
venture
could
look
like
when
you
do
have
a
property,
that's
sharing
its
space
and
public
use
with
the
community,
that's
close
to
it
right
and
when
you
look
at
it
from
that
vantage
point,
you
set
the
pace
right
when
you
do
that,
you're
gonna.
F
Just
by
doing
this
alone,
it's
going
to
challenge
others
who
are
looking
at
this
to
be
as
open
and
reasonable
and
approachable
to
extending
the
invitation
to
the
community.
To
also
participate
in
the
life
of
this
property,
so
friendly
suggestions
and-
and
I
hope
you
see
where
we're
coming
from
on
that
front-
thank.
A
All
right,
I'm
gonna,
quick
question
myself.
Chris,
can
you
pull
up
the
drawing
that
showed
the
it's
not
really
clear
to
me,
where
there's
a
there's,
a
connection
within
the
site
that
crosses
and
I'm
I
was
trying
to.
A
A
So
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that
I
guess
and
if
the
intention
the
couple
commission
commissioner
yen
brought
it
up
and
and
one
of
the
remember
somebody
from
the
applicant
brought
up
that
that
entrance
that's
kind
of
where
the
middle
astrix
is,
but
that's
actually
not
intended
as
one
of
the
cross
areas,
the
area
to
the
left.
There
is
the
one
that's
going
through,
and
so
I
guess
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had
and
I
didn't
see
it
in
drc's
comments.
A
It
would
seem
to
me
that,
if
you're
going
to
make
that
a
connection,
because
the
intention
is
that
would
then
cross
into
neighboring
properties,
it
seems
odd
to
me
that
if
I'm
under
reading
the
looking
at
the
drawing
here
right-
that's
not
an
area
where
you
have
the
the
the
brick
part
of
the
driveway.
It
looks
like
it's
instead
of
making
it
look
like
it's
intended
as
a
path
across
that
area.
It
looks
like
you're,
it
just
looks
like
a
space
between
the
buildings,
and
I
did
that
come
up
with
the
drc.
A
It's
because
I
would
have
expected
that
the
the
the
brick
driveway
would
have
actually
been
in
that
area
to
make
that
area.
Look
like
it's
more
of
a
you
know.
It's
a
way
to
connect
through,
I
would
agree
with
the
applicant
when
you
look
at
the
precise
plan.
There
is
no
residential
anywhere
close
to
this
on
the
mountain
side,
but
it's
there's
a
lot
of
residential
on
the
sunnyvale
side.
B
A
The
other
side
of
central,
so
I
would
fully
expect
that
people
would
come
down.
They
run
to
this
bike
path
and
then
they
take
the
path
along
there
and
then
they're
going
to
use
this
as
ways
to
cut
into
the
through
the
development
of
the
areas,
and
that
doesn't
feel
to
me
like
it's
designed
right
now
to
be
the
path
that
will
eventually
connect
to
the
neighbors
and
other
neighbors
farther
south.
Can
you
comment
on
that?
Kawisha
or
yeah.
C
I
can
I
can
jump
in
I'll
put
on
my
drc,
chair
hat
for
a
moment.
It
absolutely
did
come
up
and
it
perhaps
too
subtly
was
was
mentioned
in
the
staff
report,
but
one
of
the
things
that
the
drc
did
comment
on
was
sort
of
creating
and
extending
that
improvements
that
convey
that
pedestrian
connection
through
the
vehicular
access
drive,
exactly
as
as,
as
you
just
noted,
chair
cranston
yeah.
C
The
plans
that
you
are
seeing
have
not
been
updated
since
that
drc
discussion,
and
so
the
the
intention
was
to
have
the
drc,
provide
its
recommendations
to
come
before
the
epc
to
sort
of
vet,
those
recommendations
and
anything
additional
that
the
the
epc
wanted
to
add
and
then
sort
of
combine
all
that
feedback
and
have
staff
work
with
the
applicant
team
to
continue
to
refine
the
project.
To
address
that,
you
know
that
that
cumulative
feedback.
A
I
I
agree
with
drc's
feedback
there.
I
also
agree
with
the
feedback
to
try
to
create
some
sort
of
at
least
a
first
first
story
kind
of
set
into
the
new
office
building.
A
I
I
have
to
admit
that
when
I
look
and
see
the
drawing
of
the
the
potential
new
unders
crossings
of
central
and
where
this
is,
are
there
really
going
to
be
trees
between
the
the
red
line
and
central
expressway,
or
is
it
as
commissioner
yin
outlined
it's
going
to
be
center,
expressway
wall
tunnel,
wall
path,
building
and
no
freaking
trees
is
that
is
this?
Are
we
diluting
ourselves
to
think
that
there's
going
to
be
trees
along
that
area.
D
The
specifics
of
the
design
and
all
those
measurements
are
still
under
review.
As
far
as
this
individual
project
is
concerned,
the
project
plans
to
plant
trees
on
between
central
expressway
and
the
multi-use
path.
T
And
sheriff
cranston
I'll
I'll
jump
into
that
that
hard
question
so,
which
is
a
good
one.
It's
it's
we've
been
we've
been
sort
of
wrestling
with
sunnyvale
to
keep
keep
this
design
moving
as
fast
as
possible.
Unfortunately,
it
was
moving
until
sort
of
you
know
covered
quarantine
hit
and
it
they
just
had
a
lot
of
other
priorities.
T
But
I
will
say
there
actually
are
a
number
of
bridges
in
other
areas
where
I
live
in
san
jose
that
that
we
can
kind
of
point
to
that
are
pretty
tight
urban
spaces
that
they've
actually
managed
to
sort
of
wedge
in
some
some
trees
and
landscaping.
It's
not
ideal,
we're
not
going
to
get
100
foot.
You
know
redwoods
necessarily,
but
there's
some
pretty
good
tree
conditions
out
there
and
really,
when
you
look
at
the
spaces
that
are
there,
I
think
we
can
make
it
work.
T
It
seems
a
little
bit
tight
from
this
perspective
and
I
wish
we
had
a
little
bit
more
of
a
detailed
study
to
show
you,
but
really
you
know
a
two
to
three
foot
planting
area.
We
can
actually
get
a
pretty
good
buffer
of
trees
in
there.
So
and
remember,
sunnyvale's
16
foot
wide
ramp,
that's
not
set
in
stone,
there's
some
flexibility
on
the
width
of
that
ramp
as
well.
T
A
T
A
C
The
the
other
thing
I
would
just
you
know
remind
is
that
I
understand
we,
we
sort
of
tend
to
focus
on
the
the
area
of
greatest
constraint,
which
is
important
to
do,
because
it
takes
the
greatest
creativity
to
try
to
come
up
with
some
win-wins.
But
you
know
there
is
a
long
stretch
of
this.
You
know
potential
future
multi-use
path
where
trees
would
be
able
to
remain
because
they
are
not
impacted
by
the
the
potential
future
under
crossing
and-
and
so
that's
something
this
to
keep
in
mind
as
well.
U
If
I
could
add
one
more
thing
too,
the
this
drawing
is
deceiving
because
this
shows
the
existing
conditions
today,
chairperson
cranston,
if
you
look
at
that
other
sketch,
that
was
provided
by
sunnyvale,
that
free
right
turn
lane
actually
goes
away
to
north
bernardo
and
we
gain
not
we,
but
there
would
be
land
that
is
gained
for
that
pathway
and
rebecca
had
mentioned
that
earlier.
So
I
think
here
it
is
perfect.
U
So
if,
if
you
could
take
the
cursor
on
what
is
now
a
right
turn
lane
right
there
that
used
to
be
more
inboard
cutting
into
the
site,
you
could
see
the
old
right-of-way
line
up
the
turn
area,
the
access
point,
so
you
actually
gain
land
there
for
this
path
to
come
up
on
and
the
turns
are
going
to
be
almost
90
degrees
now
versus
kind
of
that
free
right-hand
turn
that
is
shown
on
our
drawings
today
and
as
exists
today.
U
So
I
think
when
you
look
at
all
of
that
right
away
line
and
and
yet
to
be
determined
by
both
the
county
and
sunnyvale
and
mountain
view,
everybody's
goal
would
be
to
try
to
squeeze
some
landscaping
in
here
and
and
not
make
it
all
concrete.
I
agree
with
that.
A
O
Yeah
when
we
were
looking
at
alternatives
and
thank
you
for
always
explaining
the
reasoning
behind
what
you
do,
but
if
you
guys
are
also
property
owners
to
the
other
side,
is
there
any
way
to
sort
of
move
around
your
far
such
that
we
don't
have
such
constraints.
T
So
so
we
we
do
own
the
building
across
bernardo,
which
is
280
bernardo,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
a
transfer
of
tdr
ability
or
excuse
me
far
ability,
but
that
building's
recently
remodeled
and
that
that
tenant
is
sort
of
set
in
there
right
now
and
this
site's
actually
been
updated
pretty
pretty
recently.
So
I.
O
T
U
One
thought
where
I
thought
you
might
be
headed
vice
chair,
if
I
could
this
steve
mentioned
early
on
that
the
the
city
is
also
considering
this
path
raising
up
into
this
corner
across
the
street,
and
you
can
see
how
much
of
the
of
the
lane
area
that
they
get
back.
Could
you
take
the
cursor
and
maybe
just
bring
it
up
to
to
the
left
hand
there
you
go
all
of
that
right
now
is
asphalt
as
a
free
right
turn
to
get
on
to
central,
which
is
all
going
to
go
away.
O
I
I'm
sorry
just
for
clarification.
I
believe
I
asked
that
question
earlier
and
the
answer
was
that
they're
intending
to
keep
the
slip
ramps
and
not
get
rid
of
them,
but
that's
still
up
in
the
air.
Am
I
not
remembering
that
correctly.
T
So,
to
clarify
we,
you
know,
staff,
you
know
required
us
to
go
check
with
the
county
in
order
to
remove
these
free
right
turn
lanes
and
we
talked
with
the
county
and
they
said
they
have
no
project
identified
to
remove
these
these
right
in
right
out
lanes
at
this
time,
they're
going
to
keep
them
the
way
it
is.
However,
the
sunnyvale
undercrossing
project
really
has
not
been
vetted
by
the
county,
roads
and
airports
at
this
time.
T
I
think
actually
ms
shapiro
wreck
mentioned
that
earlier,
so
they
really
haven't
had
a
chance
to
review
and
reflect
on
this.
However,
I
think
that
when
the
undercross
certain
under
crossing
project
comes
through
with
sunnyvale
mountain
view
together,
then
maybe
that
may
be
a
perfect
chance
to
reconsider
that,
but
right
now
they
don't
have
this
unidentified
project.
T
O
Then
I'll
just
make
my
last
pitch
to
whoever
goes
to
these
meetings
to
please
try
to
aim
for
the
connection
landing
in
the
best
place
possible
and
removing,
as
you
know,
as
much
of
the
asphalt
as
we
can,
it
helps
with
the
slow
traffic
people
crossing
bernardo
all
around
just
slowing
the
traffic
down,
avoiding
pedestrian
and
car
bike
and
car
interactions
in
an
unsafe
way
and
just
gaining
more
trees.
O
I
do
understand
the
challenges
here
and
the
existing
building
is
going
to
be
there
for
a
while,
and
that
is
really
a
tight
point
and
then
back
to
what
you
were
saying,
mr
lynch.
I
understand
that
this
is
mainly
office
park
and
not
a
whole
bunch
of
people
you're
not
designing
for
a
whole
bunch
of
residences
around,
but
I
believe
somebody
had
mentioned
in
a
presentation
that
there
were
a
lot
of
residential
people
somewhere
to
the
west.
I
didn't
know
what
neighborhood
that
was,
that
would
benefit
and
use
the
the
beautiful
popas.
O
So
I
know
that
they're,
not
the
main
constituents
you're
designing
for,
but
I
am
thinking
about
them
too.
R
And
I
think
to
add
to
that
clarissa
the
undercross
option,
which
is
showed
on
the
screen,
that's
one
of
the
option,
which
is
part
of
these
measurements,
precise
plan
images
and
there's
one
more
option
which,
where
the
under
cross
comes
up
from
across
this
site
on
the
other
side.
So
I
think
the
city
is
wetting.
Both
the
options
currently
and
which
is
more
suited
would
be
adopted,
is
my
understanding.
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
don't
know
that
we
have
public
work
stuff
here
tonight,
but
there
there
are
always
innumerable
considerations
that
are
being
weighed
and
it's
compounded
in
this
case
by
this
being
a
cross-jurisdictional
project.
I
know
one
of
the
things
they
think
about.
C
A
lot
with
under
crossings
is
trying
to
manage
the
extent
of
the
underground
time
that
people
have,
because
that
tends
to
create
a
less
hospitable
environment,
and
so
I
I
think
that
is
likely
to
be
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
side
was
more
appealing
because,
as
you
can
see
here,
it
creates
an
opportunity
for
some
open
air
between
the
caltrain
tracks
and
central
expressway.
But
I
think
our
our
public
works
staff
is
certainly
cognizant
of
the
city's
priority
for
trying
to
preserve
trees.
But
we
can.
O
A
Nobody
wants
to
chime
in.
I
will
so
in
general,
I
I'm
supportive.
I
I
really
agree
with
the
drc
feedback
a
lot,
and
so
I
hope
that
that
gets
taken
into
account
as
much
as
possible.
I
mentioned
the
one
that
other
connection,
making
sure
that
we,
I
guess
I
do
see
that
here
rebecca's
extend
the
special
paving
across
the
extended
north,
south
driveway,
so
yeah
the
more
we
can
do
to
make
that
visible.
That's
another
connection
in
there.
The
best
way
that
we
can.
A
I
wish
we
could
save
more
of
the
trees
between
the
the
old
building
and
the
highway.
But
if
we're
gonna
have,
I
think
getting
that
bike
connection
across
will
provide
far
more
benefit
long-term,
getting
people
coming
from
from
mountain
view
on
the
other
side
of
central
expressway
and
people
from
sunnyvale.
A
S
I
I
largely
agree
with
everything
you
just
said.
I
I
I
looked
through
the
drc
comments.
I
think
they
all
made
sense
to
me,
and
I
would
I
think
they
have
some
more
expertise
than
I
do
in
a
few
of
these
areas,
but
I
I'm
especially
I'm
especially
excited
about
this
connection.
It's
been
a
long
time
coming
and
connecting
you
know
doing
this
more
style
connection,
so
I
realize
that
will
cost
us
some
trees,
and
I
realized
that
this
is
a.
S
This
is
sort
of
a
strange
project
site
to
begin
with.
So
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
be
somewhat
questionable,
but
I
I
do
agree
with
staff
and
the
the
artsy
approach
of
just
always
trying
to
save
as
many
these
heritage
trees
as
we
can,
but
I,
in
this
case
I'm
I'm
excited
enough
about
the
the
connection
with
the
multi-use
path
and,
ultimately,
how
that
all
plays
out
to
to
be
a
little
yo
a
little
forgiving
here.
So
you
know
on
question
one.
S
I
am
I'm
generally
in
support
of
the
of
the
exceptions
that
are
proposed.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
wish
I
could
say
something
novel,
but
I
think
I'm
just
gonna
sound.
Like
I'm
grabbing
my
notes
from
everybody
who
went
before
me,
I
think
the
drc
recommendation
is
knocked
out
of
the
park.
I
even
you
know
the
the
recommendation
of
including
wayfinding
signage.
I
underlined
like
three
times
in
my
notes,
so
I
think
you
know
as
long
as
you're
doing
your
best
to
keep
it
green
and
moving
in
the
direction
of
making
things
you
know
accessible
and
welcoming
to
the
folks
who
may
not
work
there.
M
I
think
that
really
gets
us
in
the
direction
we
want
to
go,
but
I
definitely
support
the
direction
this
project
is
headed
now.
F
I
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said
by
my
by
my
colleagues
so
that
that's
gonna
be
short
and
sweet,
and
but
in
terms
of
number
three
though,
and
I
forgot
to
bring
this
up,
the
only
suggestion
I
had
was
in
the
area
in
the
middle
of
the
campus,
where
public
access
was
going
to
be.
I
recall
that
there
was
going
to
also
have
a
small
area,
or
I
don't
know
how
large
or
small
it
is,
but
of
a
biking
station
right
for
parking
thought
is.
F
N
I'm
gonna
lower
my
hand.
Yes,
I
do
just
again
emphasizing
I
know
the
intended
audiences
is:
probably
the
people
working
there
just
don't
know
what
would
happen
in
20
30
years.
What
might
change
so
I
I
just
really
would
like
to
echo
the
that
strong
desire
for
making
sure
that
anyone
walking
by
can
just
know
that
it's
a
open,
welcome
area.
N
That's
that's
my
biggest
thinking
around
this
this
one,
but
yes,.
G
Yes,
I
agree
completely
with
the
grc
recommendations
and
and
also-
and
what's
been
said
earlier.
I
I
do
think
chair
prince
when
you
made
it
the
point
about
whether
we're
actually
going
to
get
trees
along
the
perimeter,
and
that
is
adjacent
to
central
is
concerning
that
I,
I
trust
that
staff
will
work
with
the
applicant
to
the
extent
possible
to
preserve
trees
and
maximize
the
canopy
elsewhere
on
the
site.
O
O
Perhaps
minimize
the
exceptions
with
the
paths
I
do
agree
with
drc
and
maybe
carving
out
the
ground
floor
to
allow
for
wider
paths,
whatever
we
can
do
to
promote,
leaving
some
trees
there.
If
mr
lynch
says
we
can
get
some
trees
and
three
feet
if
we
come
to
the
design
where
and
working
with
the
county
in
the
undergrass
underpass
that
we
can
remove
the
slip
ramps,
all
the
better,
so
I
don't
know
who
is
there
to
champion
that?
But
please
do
that.
I
am
also
open
to
maybe
oh.
O
I
know
this
is
not
what
you're
asking,
but
when
you're
talking
about
the
footprints,
if
we
can
minimize
the
footprint
a
little
bit,
if
it's
not
too
much
to
just
increase
the
height
like
one
level,
I'm
okay
with
that
too,
if
that
is
going
to
help
significantly
and
as
far
as
wayfinding
and
opening
this
up
to
the
public,
I
agree
with
everyone
else.
However,
I
would
like
to
just
add
the
one
comment
that
I
believe
designing
things
so
that
you
don't
need
signs
is
far
more
productive
than
putting
10
signs
to
say.
O
No,
not
this
way
go
that
way
so
doubles
in
the
details
there
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
you
know
trust
that
you
guys
are
working
in
that
direction.
So
if
those
bike
lockers
couldn't
you
know,
could
just
move
to
not
block
off
two-thirds
of
that
path
to
the
popa.
That
would
be
fantastic
and
any
other
sort
of
details
like
that.
I
trust
that
you'll
continue
to
move
in
that
direction.
A
So
you've
got
your
answer
there
cliche
question
number
two:
does
it
does
the
epc
support?
My
studying
minor
design
changes
the
building
footprint
for
the
building
in
the
garage,
decreasing
vehicular
parking
for
the
exceptions
of
the
multi-use
path
of
designed
to
preserve
trees?
Is
it
a
vibe
staff
or
any
additional
comments
in
the
proposed
tree
plan?
S
I
mean
I
I
feel
like
well.
We
saw
those
probably
answered
question
two
as
part
of
question
one
I'm
guilty
of
that,
but
I
I
do
support
the
especially
the
drc
and
staff
recommendations
just
to
to
at
least
explore
these
minor
changes
that
will
allow
us
to
preserve
additional
trees.
F
A
Okay,
christian,
yes,
okay,
mr.
A
And
I
do
generally
support
it.
I
guess
I
don't
know
whether
it's
an
option
or
not,
because
we've
talked
about
this
path
being
a
nice
wide
path,
but
if
there
was
a
way
to
save
some
of
those
nice
healthy
trees
by
maybe
having
the
path
gonna
surround
the
tree
partially,
you
know
make
it.
Maybe
it's
not
full
16
feet
wide.
A
Maybe
it's
12
feet,
so
you
can
save
a
tree
or
walk
a
chance
to
try
to
do
that,
and
one
thing
that
wasn't
specifically
noted
was
that
the
replacement
trees
should
also
be
preferably
native
trees,
where
possible,
not
just
not
just
replacing
trees
with
other
trees,
but
let's
try
to
keep
them
keep
native
trees
would
be
my
only
additional
comment
on
the
tree
plan.
Okay,
so
question
number
three:
any
comments
on
the
proposed
designs,
office
building
and
parking
garage.
S
Yes,
so
again
here
I
thought
the
drc
had
some
fall
recommendations.
I
typically
worry
most
about
the
the.
R
S
And
the
the
look
of
the
parking
structure,
I
think,
having
your
green
screens
here-
will
will
help
to
the
extent
and
the
the
fins
and
other
things
the
extent
that
we
can
we'll
go
a
long
way.
S
I
learned
a
long
time
ago
that
I
should
never
design
office
buildings,
and
so
I
I
sort
of
trust
that
and
trust
that
to
the
drc
and
others
in
terms
of
the
the
actual
design
of
the
building
itself,
aside
from
massing
and
and
overall
footprint,
I
I
do
think
I
understand
the
concerns
about
about
glass.
S
I
I
think,
but
you
know
we
worked
pretty
extensively
in
the
east,
was
then
precise
plan
to
make
sure
that
you
know
requiring
bird
safe
design
and-
and
you
know
the
the
answers
that
the
applicants
provided
in
terms
of
what
they've,
what
they've
incorporated
here
and
and
who
they're
working
with.
I
think
at
europe
gives
me
a
lot
of
confidence
in
that,
so
that
doesn't
confirm
me
as
much
as
you
know,
just
making
sure
that
we
yeah
we.
S
We
have
the
we
have
the
facades
right
on
on
both
sides
and
and
the
areas
that
the
public
and
the
entrance
gets
seen
by
the
public
and
then
and
then
that
we
ensure
that
the
the
pathways
are
easily
identified
and
accessible,
and
the
last
thing
that
I'll
add
there
would
just
be
that,
in
addition
to
wayfinding
and
physical
signs
and
things
like
that,
one
of
the
ways
to
I've
found
that's
worked.
M
S
Areas
in
san
francisco
to
get
people
to
use
sort
of
popo
like
areas
is
to
not
only
have
the
physical
signage
there,
but
to
you
know,
folks
are
going
to
be
looking
at.
You
know
how
do
I,
how
do
I
get
from
here?
A
to
z?
You
know
on
a
google
map
on
my
bike
and
they're,
going
to
look
at
the
areas
along
the
the
trails
and
the
connection,
and
if
they
see
you
know,
there's
a
barbecue
pit
area
that
instead
of
being
labeled,
you
know
the
you
know
the
company
names
barbecue
pit.
S
If
it's
labeled,
like
you
know
a
you
know,
mountain
view,
community
bar,
if
you
pit
or
whatever
you
know,
we
can
come
up
with
some
some
names
that
sort
of
just
generally
indicate
on
that
digital
map
that
someone's
looking
at.
If
they're
looking
for
areas
to
commute
through.
I
think
that
that
would
help
sort
of
indicate
to
folks
that
you
know
that
that
is
a
publicly
accessible
space.
N
Sorry
to
ask
one
more
question
here
guys,
but
this
talking
of
glass
actually
reminded
me
about
some
experiences
driving
down
central
and
getting
blinded
by
glare.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
you
know
for
staff-
or
I
guess
yeah-
probably
staff
just
really
quickly.
Did
the
design
go
through
any
kind
of
like
review
around
glare?
Are
there
any
considerations
around
that?
N
D
Yes,
of
course,
yes,
there
is
a
provisions
within
the
zoning
ordinance
requiring
no
off-site
glare,
be
caused
by
by
properties,
so
we
do
review
it
for
that
and
it'll
get
more
technically
reviewed
at
a
later
stage.
There's
also,
I
believe
requirements
in
the
east
has
been
precise
plan
for
and
what's
commonly
done
in
office.
Building
now
is
having
the
lights
shut
off
at
a
certain
time
and
being
motion
censored
and
things
like
that
within
the
building.
F
You,
sir
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
friendly
reminder
again
about
possibly
moving
the
parking
for
the
bicycles
from
the
middle
part
of
the
campus
over
towards
the
garage,
and
then
this
was
upon
a
little
bit
and
we
heard
the
reasons
why
it
could
work
or
it
couldn't
work.
But
I'd
like
to
see
if
there's
a
way
to
also
have
some
of
that
visitor
parking.
That's
at
the
front
be
converted
into
some
additional
green
space
and
just
place
those
in
the
garage.
F
You
can
have
some
visitor
parking
there.
I
guess
at
the
front
and
handicap
for
sure,
but
if
we
can
find
any
way
to
include
a
green
space
and
have
some
of
those
spots
be
transferred
over
to
the
parking
garage
as
well.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
wonderful,
just
a
two
cents
worth
of
my
opinion.
M
Well,
I
was
gonna
just
say
no
further
comments,
but
I
would
only
briefly
say
I
think
what
commissioner
gutierrez
just
said
is
there.
Those
are
good
comments
and
I
associate
myself
with
him.
M
I
think
he's
totally
right
and
when
this
you
know,
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
a
a
kind
of
a
revised
version
of
the
plans
kind
of
down
to
maybe
some
greater
detail
like
I'd
really
like
to
see
a
very
detailed
view
of
what
these
little
popas
are
going
to
look
like
and-
and
maybe
I
just
give
my
glasses
to
something.
But
I
look
forward
to
when
we
can
have
a
more
in-depth
conversation
about
precisely
what
those
spaces
are
going
to
look
like,
but
other
than
that.
O
Not
much
to
add,
I
appreciate
the
screening
of
the
parking
garage
and
I
I
have
the
same
concerns
that
mr
england
had
mentioned
over
the
glass,
but
I
know
that's
a
voluntary
thing,
I'm
just
you
know
if
you
want
to
take
that
into
consideration,
please
please
do
to
the
applicant.
A
Commissioner
density,
did
you
have
something
else
to
add
here,
so
my
only
comment
was
I
mean
in
the
epc
drc
mentioned
this.
The
green
screen
is,
is
kind
of
a
north.
A
It's
a
very
much
going
to
be
a
north-facing
area,
and
so
I'm
drc
mentioned
this,
but
I
I
the
plants,
don't
grow
as
well
when
they're
not
facing
the
sun,
so
I
have
some.
I
do
this,
which
I
really
hope.
That's
looked
at
very
closely
to
be
sure
that
whatever
is
created
there
in
fact,
will
will
survive.
Would
be
my
only
other
comment.
Okay,
so.
X
B
A
A
Okay,
all
right
so
we'll
move
on
to
section
seven
new
business.
Y
Y
Y
So
the
fifth
cycle
spans
2015
to
2023
as
part
of
the
housing
element,
we
have
to
implement
programs
and
policies
and
provide
updates
to
hcd
on
the
number
of
housing
units
that
we're
producing
it's
required
by
the
state's
hcd
to
be
completed
by
april
1st
of
the
following
year.
Y
Based
off
of
the
building
permits
issued
in
2021,
we
had
51
above
moderate
and
that
essentially
keeps
our
percentage
of
the
arena
allocation
at
52.6
percent,
similar
to
what
we
had
last
year.
Simply
because
we
didn't
issue
building
permits
for
the
below
market
rate
units,
affordable
units
and
just
to
clarify
the
52.6.
Y
Y
I
am
then
going
to
the
specific
housing
development
projects
that
are
applicable.
We
had
three
projects
entitled
in
2021
with
affordable
units,
1100
la
vanita,
avenue,
400
log
and
1919
to
1939
gamma
way.
So
there's
three
of
those
and
then
we
have
three
two
projects
that
completed
construction
in
2021.
Y
Y
So
this
is
a
basic
annual
progress
report
that
we
do
every
year.
We
present
it
to
epc
and
then
we
also
bring
it
to
city
council
as
a
consent
item
and
then,
like
I
previously
stated,
we
have
to
submit
it
to
hcd
and
opr
beginning
of
april
and
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation.
N
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
so
I
do
have
some
questions.
I'm
definitely
hoping
I
can
get
some.
Maybe
I'm
missing
something
here.
So
I
was
digging
through
that
spreadsheet.
N
The
exhibit
2
2021
annual
housing
element
and
I
wasn't
completely
sure
exactly
what
the
kind
of
methodology
was
for
what
counts
and
what
doesn't
count.
So
I
was
hoping
to
get
some
clarity
on
that.
So
a
couple
things
or
three
things.
I
guess
that
I
found
number
one
for
the
1100
la
avenita
project.
N
It's
noting
that
there
are
100
above
moderate
income
units.
I
checked
the
project
list
and
I
think
it's
even
in
the
general
plan
update
exhibit
for
the
next
item.
Even
there
was,
as
far
as
I
could
tell
only
100
units
total
for
that
and
they
were
all
affordable.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
was
you
know
just
a
typo
or
discrepancy
or
if
I'm
completely
missing
something
and
then,
furthermore,
on
the
gamma
way
and
the
ring
store
projects
down
the
line
there.
N
So
for
the
570
south
rankstorf
project,
I
notice
that
it's
kind
of
saying,
hey,
there's
15
total
units.
Obviously,
you
know
if
you
go
over
there
right
now,
there's
70
units
that
are
set
to
be
demolished
and
I
think
the
project
is
going
to
get
us
85
row
homes
or
something
like
that.
So
I
think
you
know
we're
accounting
for
the
net
difference.
N
But
then,
when
I
look
at
the
gamma
way
project
right
above
that,
it's
calling
in
for
that
121
figure,
which
I
guess
is
like
gross
versus,
like
the
net-
that's
being
used
for
that
south
rankster
project.
So
you
know
just
kind
of
wanted
to
know
if
there
was
any
particular
reason
or
what
was
going
on
there
in
terms
of
how
we're
counting
units
that
we're
reporting
back
to
hcd.
Y
Yeah,
thank
you,
so
the
first
one
for
lavender
yeah.
That
is
correct.
That
is
something
that
I
noticed
for
la
vanita.
It
should
say
in
table
a
the
98
for
low
income,
the
two
for
the
moderate
and
the
total
is
the
hundred
right.
Now,
as
you
see
in
the
attachment,
it
does
say,
100
under
above
moderate
and
the
addition
is
a
total
of
200,
so
that
is
incorrect,
98
plus
two
for
a
total
of
100.
Y
So
there
are
two
separate
tables
for
table:
a
is
strictly
for
entitlements
and
we
report
it
as
the
what
is
proposed
in
table
a2,
we
have
different
sections,
say,
there's
a
total
completed
entitlement
and
then
there's
the
building
permit
issued
and
finally,
the
certificate
of
occupancy
hcd
has
changed
some
of
this
regulation.
So
previously
we
only
reported
on
one
specific
number,
which
is
the
net
new,
but
because
of
these
changes
they
won't
be
able
to
track
the
history
of
permits.
Y
So
when
we
put
in
data
for
table
a2
in
the
section
that
is
for
building
permits
issuance,
we
report
on
the
net
difference.
So
in
some
of
those
units,
you'll
see
zeros
and
simply
because
you
know
either
the
units
were
issued
before
in
a
different
apr
or
if
there
were
no
net
new
units,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that
column
is
just
letting
hcd
know
what
that
net
difference
is.
N
N
Cool
all
right.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
then
last
question
here
I
don't.
Maybe
it's
not
a
question,
I
don't
know,
but
I
we
are
including
some
of
these
pro
so
like
gamma
way,
we're
reporting
it
as
part
of
that
fifth
cycle,
but
then
it's
also
included
in
our
sixth
cycle
proposal.
N
I
know
that
was
last
week's
discussion.
I
maybe
just
for
sake
of
clarity
can
can
I
get?
How
does
how
are
we,
including
it
in
this
one
as
well?
Can
someone
help
me
with
that.
E
Sure
yeah
I'll
jump
in
here
the
so
that
table
a
that.
The
gammel
project
is
on
is
really
just
hcd
asking
us
about
our
entitlement.
Improv
approvals.
It's
not!
It
doesn't
influence
the
the
arena
numbers.
E
So
we
will
be
able
to
count
that
project
to
the
sixth
cycle
arena
because
they
won't
get
their
building
permits
until
next
year
or
later.
So
the
purpose
of
table
a
like,
I
said,
is
just
to
look
at
approvals.
E
N
F
Thank
you,
chad,
so
just
following
up
on
alex's
observation,
which
was
which
is
really
appreciated
and
for
the
record
in
order
for
it
to
be
clean.
F
I
know
we
have
a
video
recording
of
the
correction,
as
noted
when
president
to
us,
but
is
there
a
way
to
also
memorialize
that
with
just
sending
us
a
pdf
with
their
added
numbers,
the
corrected
numbers
in
terms
of
what
ads
point
out
to
with
the
discrepancy,
so
that
we
also
have
that
on
the
record
in
case
someone
doesn't
want
to
look
at
the
video,
they
can
at
least
go
to
the
report
and
see
the
accuracy
on
the
paper
via
the
pdf.
E
The
other
thing
that
you
can
do
is
we
are
posting
all
of
our
past
aprs
on
the
general
plan
web
page,
and
so
when
it
is
submitted
to
the
hcd,
we'll
post
it
on
the
city's
general
plan
webpage
as
well.
N
Yeah
yeah.
I
just
appreciate
commissioner
gutierrez's
follow-up
on
that
and
I
guess
without
calling
to
question
the
whole
document,
yeah,
it's
a
huge
document.
I
only
pointed
out
like
one
so
I'm
sure
if
I
didn't
say
this,
maybe
if
we
could
just
make
sure
we
double
check
that
it's
not
erroneous
elsewhere.
Just
since
we
are
sending
this
to
the
state
just
as
a
yeah
cool
thanks.
A
A
She
up
there,
she
is
miss
pendleton.
Do
we
have
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item.
A
Bring
it
back
to
the
epc
for
deliberation,
any
action.
Any
overall
comments
on
the
on
the
report
recommends
changes.
Mr
commissioner,
clark.
S
I
don't
have
any
changes
or
other
recommendations.
Aside
from
the
the
the
correction
that
was
noted
earlier,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
that
we
recommend
that
the
city
council
accept
the
housing
element
annual
progress
report
with
the
correction
that
was
noted
earlier.
A
A
A
I
came
away
with
that
kind
of
feeling,
like
I
really
didn't
understand
what
was
involved
with
the
production
of
blow
market
rate
housing,
and
so
I
took
it
on
myself
to
reach
out
to
someone
that
I
knew
ran
one
of
those
organizations,
the
gentleman
of
randy
souda
who
actually
used
to
be
part
of
the
city
of
mountain
view,
planning
department
several
years
ago,
and
we
had
a
chance
to
talk
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half,
and
it
was
actually
really
enlightening
and
some
of
the
items
that
are
listed
in
the
in
the
progress
report.
A
A
I
I
understand
it's
kind
of
a
statement
of
what
we're
doing,
but
it's
not
necessarily
in
my
mind,
a
statement
of
whether
it's
effective
or
not,
and
whether
it
can
continue
to
be
effective
going
forward
within
the
housing
element.
There
were
three
items
that
to
me
again
they're
statements
of
what
we're
doing,
but
they
didn't
necessarily
have
some
concerns
about
whether
we're
articulate
accurately
reflecting
the
whether
they're
effective
going
forward.
A
The
process
that
we
use
today
for
funding
below
market
rate
units
is
essentially
using
money
from
office
development.
That's
the
primarily
source
of
funds,
there's
other
some
other
sources,
but
the
primary
is
office
development
and
the
the
challenge
with
that
is
that
it's
over
the
period
up
to
this
point
in
time
it's
been
providing
a
lot
of
money,
but
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
office
development
in
2021.
A
That
approach
is
something
that
is
dependent
on
the
economy
at
the
time
that
it's,
if
people
are
building
a
lot
of
office,
then
we'll
get
a
lot
get
money.
If
we're
not
we're
not
getting
a
lot
of
money
and,
quite
frankly,
it
actually
by
using
it
as
a
primary
method,
it
actually
exacerbates
the
job,
housing
and
balance
that.
W
A
Because
the
only
way
to
get
more
money
for
the
housing
is
to
build
a
lot
more
office
which
creates
more
jobs,
which
in
fact
exacerbates
the
job
housing
bills.
So
I
guess
so.
The
my
first
first
comment
was
my
I,
as
I
read
through
that
it's
like
okay
yeah,
that's
we're
doing,
but
I
question
in
my
mind
whether
is
that
in
fact
an
effective
approach,
whether
this
is
something
that
that
the
challenge
right
now
is
reviewing
something
that
ends
in
was
this
march
in
10
months.
A
A
Now
or
is
this
something
that
would
be
brought
forward
as
a
the
topic
for
the
next
housing
element?
Kind
of
a
topic?
Second
item?
And
I'm
not
going
through
everything
that
I
learned
from
randy
it
was
a
it
was.
A
very,
very
useful
meeting
was
the
on
the
it's
like
the
second
page.
A
It's
the
item
that
was
says:
partnership
with
housing
developers.
It
talks
about
kind
of
doing
the
the
what
they
call.
S
A
A
D
A
Or
charities
anybody
to
submit
in
time
for
may
means
that
they
don't
there's
there,
there's
no
chance
to
get
any
money
until
next
year
and
so
partnering
with
the
the
the
the
blow
market
rate
developers
to
me
would
also
say
you
know:
look,
should
we
be
looking
at
not
just
letting
them
know
that
we
have
money,
but
should
we
looking
at
perhaps
putting
dedicated
staff
towards
this
and
being
do?
A
We
need
to
be
making
sure
that
we
accelerate
or
prioritize
blow
market
rate
projects
to
make
sure
that
they
actually
can
be
in
in
time
for
that,
regardless
of
who
it
is
to
be
able
to
submit
in
time
for
that
once
a
year
shot
for
them
to
get
money,
and
I
it
didn't
feel
like
that.
The
description
of
that
adequately
addressed
what
could
be
needed
there
and
then
the
third
one
was.
We've
talked
about,
we've
seen
it
in
the
the
bmr
unit
that
was
put
at
the
little
taco
bell
on
el
camino.
A
A
It
feels
like
we're
looking
at
these
things,
one
at
a
time
and
instead
of
just
putting
in
place
a
process
that
saying
okay,
should
we
should
we
reevaluate
the
parking
requirements
and
in
particular
it's
you
know,
particularly
for
low
market
reunions.
It
shouldn't
be
something
that
has
to
be
negotiated
every
time
mr
student
indicated
there's
discussion
about
the
project
that
they
have
over
in
carabella
having
different
levels,
that's
all
being
negotiated.
It
feels
like
we
could.
We
could
potentially
accelerate
our
the
process
of
getting
blow
my
grade
housing.
R
A
So
I
guess
it's
a
discussion
item
for
the
for
the
commission,
whether
this
is
something
that
we
would
want
to
bring
these
bring
any
some
or
any
of
these
items
forward
to
council
whether
they
should
be
maybe
eric
is
this.
Is
this
something
that
should
be
incorporated
into
the
report?
Is
it
outside
of
the
report
it
just?
They
see.
It
seemed
like
large
enough
items
to
me
that
were
that
there
were
gaps
I
didn't
feel
like.
We
were
like,
maybe
we're.
A
F
Yes,
no,
those
are
excellent
points
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
and
to
hit
the
second
point:
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
move
towards
to
when
I
suggested
the
rocket
bucket
approach
to
move
forward
quicker
with
these
below
market
rate
type
of
units,
because
the
sooner
when
you
face
that
type
of
deadline,
you
don't
have
that
much
time
right.
So
I
don't
know
that
this
is
the
right
area
to
approach
it
by.
But
it
sounds
to
me
like
this
would
be
more
of
a
request
under
section
eight.
F
But
if,
if
if
we
can
add
that
on
after
the
vote
for
this,
perhaps
eric
can
see
us
in
terms
of
if
it
is
a
request,
can
we
can
we
bring
that
back
up
so
that
we
can
finalize
this
or
engage
in
this
discussion
and
then
finalize
what
it
is
that
we'd
like
to
approach
city
council
with
in
terms
of
suggestions
which
are
all
valid
with
what
you
mentioned
already
and
try,
and
do
that
as
soon
as
we
can
just
throwing
that
out
there
in
terms
of
procedure
right?
Thank
you.
A
S
S
All
they
care
about
is
the
status
of
the
numbers,
and
so
that's
why
this
this
report
is
just
a
blunt
instrument
to
review
and
send
to
them
in
terms
of
like.
Are
we
doing
the
right
things?
Can
we
do
more?
That's
a
broader
policy
discussion
that
I
think
should
probably
be
a
request
that
we
submit
in
a
draft
work
plan
to
council
that
they
will
consider
as
part
of
their
next
work
plan
and
budget
budgetary
cycle
in
june
july
or
a
little
bit
before.
S
But
eric
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
I
think
I
think
that
would
be
the
best
way
for
us
to
request
council's
permission
to
maybe
hold
a
study
session
or
look
at
these
things
and
find
out
if
they're
even
interested
enough
looking
at
this
or
if
they're,
maybe
because
maybe
they're
not
so
but
eric.
Maybe
you
have
better
ideas
than
I
do
on
that.
E
So
there's
overlap
here.
You
know
what
what
I'm
hearing
from
chair
cranston
is.
You
know
the
the
apr
is
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
look
kind
of
critically
at
where
we've
been
in
terms
of
opportunities
to
look
to
look
forward
and
we
are
working
on
the
updated
housing
element
now
you
know,
I
will
acknowledge
that
this
item
wasn't
noticed
for
as
a
you
know,
six
cycle
housing
element
discussion.
E
That
being
said,
you
know
the
the
discussion
is
related
to
maybe
shortfalls
of
and
and
critique
of,
where
we've,
where
we've
been
in
the
fifth
cycle.
So
if
there
is
general
kind
of
commission
comment
on
on
this,
we
can
include
it
in
the
in
the
staff
report
that
goes
to
council
for
their
review
of
the
apr,
which
is
the
next
step
for
this
process.
E
And
if
you
know,
if
council
pulls
the
staff
report
and
and
focuses
on
these
issues
that
the
epc
brings
up
as
a
part
of
that
item,
then
that
could
potentially
be
something
we
could
consider
for
as
we're
developing
the
six
cycle.
Housing
element.
N
Yep,
so
this
might
be
getting
a
little
ahead
of
things,
but
so,
first
of
all,
I
am
I'm
very
sympathetic
and
in
large
agreement
with
you
know
the
merit
of
the
concerns
that
that
you've
raised.
I've
certainly
thought
about
them
plenty
of
times
myself.
Incidentally
enough.
The
next
item
is
the
general
plan
update
and
there
is
a
big
spreadsheet
of
kind
of.
N
I
don't
know
what
is
it
called,
not
projects,
action
items
that
have
some
level
or
degree
of
prioritization
and
that
indicate
you
know
kind
of
like
not
started.
You
specifically
brought
up.
You
know
like
parking,
for
example.
I
think
other
people
also,
you
know,
might
care
about
parking.
So
one
thing
I
might
think
about
is
if
it's
possible
to
you,
know
kind
of
leverage,
the
next
item
to
be
a
little
more
appropriate
or
specific
around.
You
know
something
that
we
want
to.
N
As
commissioner
clark
noted
kind
of
like
seek
permission
or
guidance
from
council
on
whether
or
not
it
would
make
sense
for
us
to
pursue
some
kind
of
study
session
around
I'd
be
amenable
to
that.
So
I
know
it's
the
next
item,
but
yeah.
M
Thank
you
chairman.
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate,
I
think,
a
couple
of
things
that
I've
heard
yeah.
I
agree
with
chuck
cranston
that
there's
a
conversation
to
be
had
here
around
parking
and
parking
requirements,
because
it
seems
that
it
shifts
around
a
lot
and
and
if
I'm
conf,
you
know,
I'm
a
little
confused
about
what
exactly
our
rules
are
on
parking,
because
it
seems
to
be
a
point
of
negotiation
pretty
regularly.
So
I
would
be
interested
in
having
that
conversation.
I
am,
however,
mindful
of
what
commissioner
clark
said.
M
We
got
to
ask
the
right
way,
so
I
just
want
to
sort
of
put
my
put
my
voice
forward,
for
I
want
to
have
that
conversation,
and
I
want
to
ask
to
have
that
conversation
through
the
appropriate
channel,
whatever
eric
you
or
staff.
Think
is
the
best
way
to
ask.
F
Yeah,
so
when
I
was
in
the
school
board,
we
would
have
all
these
intense
conversations
and
then
these
these
decisions
were
made
and
sometimes
as
a
school
board
member
one
of
us
would
always
think
about
oh
wait
a
minute,
and
then
we
would
bring
it
up
in
a
meeting
and-
and
we
learned
the
hard
way
that
there's
the
brown
act,
so
so
just
a
friendly
suggestion
that
if
we
are
going
to
bring
this
up
as
a
request,
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
do
it
under
eight
and
with
a
specific
request
being
made.
F
If
we
could
do
this
based
on
what
was
commented
on
by
our
chair
phrase,
it
that
way
so
that
there
isn't
any
room
for
anyone
saying
to
us
that
we
violated
the
brown
act
because
it
wasn't
posted
in
tonight's
agenda,
so
just
food
for
thought
on
that
front
in
a
friendly
manner.
Thank
you.
L
Yes,
I
I
do
think
that
there's
a
connection
in
terms
of
just
this
general
discussion,
though
for
purposes
of
this-
the
annual
report,
because
you're
looking
at
how
we
have
performed
over
the
past
year
and
through
this
arena
period,
and
so
I
think,
trying
to
understand
why
we
may
not
have
produced
you
know
any
low
income
housing
in
the
last
year
or
issued
building
permits.
L
O
Yes,
I
would
love
to
do
this
properly,
so
if
we
can
just,
I
would
love
to
have
the
conversation.
So
if
there's
a
way
to
do
it
so
that
we
are
noticing,
can
we
please
do
so,
I'm
all
for
it.
So
if
you
wanted
to
take
a
straw
poll
on
that,
I'm
raising
my
hand.
A
I
know
whether
it's
part
of
the
next
topic
or
at
some
future
point
a
study
session
on
some
of
these
items-
is
that
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
hearing.
So
the
answer
would
be
no
not
not
not
supporting
the
idea
of
incorporating
this
into
this,
but
separately
looking
at
it
either
either
as
part
of
the
next
item
or
a
future
item
going
forward.
D
L
Yes,
I
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
follow
what
eric
had
said
that
you
know
if
there
is
kind
of
a
straw
poll
kind
of
consensus
that
the
commission
is
interested
in
this.
You
know,
subject
matter
that
that
it
could
be
included
in
the
transmittal
report
to
the
city
council,
so
that
they're,
aware
of
this
interest
and
and
the
council
can
consider
that
and
perhaps
take
some
sort
of
action
to
to
allow
the
commission
to
move
forward.
E
I'll
also
just
add
a
step
in
here.
I'll
just
add
that
in
in
may
and
june
we
are
going
to
be
bringing
housing
element,
study
sessions
back
to
the
commission,
and
there
will
be
more
opportunity
to
discuss
programs
like
this
at
that
upcoming
meeting
as
well.
A
A
Perhaps
things
like
this
as
to
why
why
we
missed
and
things
that
could
be
done
to
close
those
gaps
in
the
next
cycle?
If
there's
support
for
that
among
the
rest
of
the
commissioners,
but
I
can
I
can
do
I
need
to
take
this
draw
paul
on
that
sandy
and
that
request
to
include
kind
of
a
looking
at
things
that
maybe
didn't
work
as
well
during
the
cycle
to
help
the
next
cycle
that
yes,
eric.
E
I
mean
general
consent,
I'm
seeing
nodding
head
shaking.
You
know
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
we
need
a
formal
straw
poll.
A
Okay,
I'm
saying
thumbs
up:
okay,
vice
chair,
yin,
okay,
so.
O
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
that
was
my
straw
poll
vote.
Sorry.
A
Okay,
okay,
all
right
so
I'll
bring
it
back.
Then,
if
there's
no
other
discussion
on
the
motion
to
I
didn't
know
what
it
was
at
this
point
to
accept
the
the
document
and
to
transmit
it
to
council.
Ms
penalar,
can
you
take
the
vote.
A
A
M
N
E
E
Sorry,
a
little
a
small
point
of
order.
It
is
after
10
o'clock
just
barely
so
we
do
need
a
vote
to
proceed.
A
A
So
spindler,
can
you
take
a
a
roll.
B
A
A
A
So
we'll
now
move
on
to
item
7.2.
Thank
you
eric.
So
we'll
start
off
with
a
presentation
presentation
by
project
planner,
brittany,
whitehill
and
eric
anderson,
advanced
planning
manager.
Mr
whitehill.
X
Hi
good
evening,
can
you
see
my
screen
great?
So
thank
you
again
good
evening,
commissioners.
My
name
is
brittany,
whitehill
and
I
am
joined
tonight
by
our
advanced
planning
manager.
Eric
anderson,
the
item
in
front
of
you,
consists
of
the
2021
general
plan
annual
progress
report
in
2012,
the
city
council
adopted
the
2030
general
plan
and
the
related
general
plan
action
plan.
The
2030
general
plan
action
plan
is
a
list
of
action
items
that
carries
out
the
general
plan's
goals
and
policies.
X
X
X
X
The
city
has
converted
city
street
lights
and
parking
lot
lights
to
leds
and
continues
to
seek
opportunities
for
additional
retrofits,
and
this
item
has
been
reclassified
to
the
ongoing
items
list
and
the
community
development
department
continues
to
track
building
permits
finals
for
renewable
energy
projects.
This
item
has
also
been
reclassified
to
the
ongoing
list.
X
N
Cool
so
yep
just
to
follow
up
on
that
last
discussion.
There's
a
question
for
eric.
I
I
believe,
would
we
be
within
the
scope
of
epc
scope.
N
If
we
were
to
look
at
any
of
these
items
and
say
hey
city
council,
we
see
that
some
of
these
have
you
know
a
not
started
designation
as
far
as
the
progress
status
and
we
would
kindly
request
some
discretion
around
you
know.
Creating
a
study
session
or
something
of
this
is,
is
that
an
appropriate?
E
Yeah
absolutely
the
commissioner's
free
to
ask
that
during
this
process,
one
of
the
challenges
is
that
you
know
the
council
has
usually
a
bi-annual
kind
of
goal
setting
and
an
action
setting
process,
and
so
that
process
was
last
year
and
it'll
be
next
year.
So
that
means
that
there,
if,
if
council
kind
of
reviews,
your
comments
in
there
council
will
review
your
comments
when
they're
when
they're
taking
up
this
recommendation.
E
But
in
order
for
it
to
go
somewhere,
they
would
have
to
pull
the
item,
discuss
it
and
and
direct
staff
to
do
something.
And
often
that
would
also
mean
reprioritizing
things
that
staff
is
already
working
on.
So
but
that's
what
that's?
What
doing
something
right
now
would
take,
but
the
the
commission
is
by
me.
It
would
certainly
be
within
the
commission's
purview
right
now
to
make
that
recommendation.
N
Cool
yeah,
so
I
mean
basically
the
worst
that
could
happen.
Is
they
say
no
right,
and
so
just
like
with
anything
else
in
life,
people
are
free
to
ask
and
people
are
free
free
to
have
a
no,
so
yeah
I
mean,
like,
I
think,
commissioner,
you
know
chair
cranston
and
I
think
commissioner
dempsey
had
brought
up
something
around
parking.
If
there
was
anyone
else
who
was
open
to
even
you
know
asking
around
some
of
those
items.
N
I
know
I
would
be
happy
to
provide
some
support
around
that
specifically,
but
you
know
that's
just
I'll,
throw
that
out
there,
given
that
you
know
we're
we're
free
to
ask.
A
Then
we
will
open
up
to
public
comments,
would
only
when
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
the
site.
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
start.
None
in
your
phone
phone
users
can
mute
and
unmute
themselves
with
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six.
You
can
see
clerk
will
start
the
timer
to
let
you
know
when
your
time
is
up
on
this
panel
or
do
we
have
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item.
J
A
We'll
back
bring
it
back
to
the
epc
for
the
liberation
in
action.
So,
as
a
deliberation
item
I
would
be,
I
would
be
it
feels,
like.
Staff
has
already
done
a
fair
amount
of
work
on
looking
at
alternative
parking
standards
as
part
of
projects
that
have
come
forward.
But
since
we
don't
have
something
in
place
that
actually
makes
it
something
to
more
coherent.
G
Yes,
I'd
echo
support
for
that.
I
understand
what
eric
you're
saying
I
mean,
I
think
the
goal
setting
has
been
done
and
their
constraints,
but
it
does
seem
like
at
some
point,
looking
more
systematically
the
parking
requirements,
particularly
for
bmr.
We
have
a
lot
of
good
data
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
look
at
it
more
uniformly
and
and
put
something
city-wide
understanding
that
there
are
many
other
priorities
that
have
already
been
established
by
council.
O
I'll
plus
one
as
well
I'll
just
add
on
a
little
footnote,
which
is,
I
believe
the
city
is
also
looking
at
parking,
not
just
parking
requirements,
but
the
permitting
as
well-
and
that
seems
to
be
a
big
sort
of
tie-in
to
the
question
project
by
project
is
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
impact
the
residential
parking.
So
if
something
comes
up,
then
the
residences
don't
want
to
have
like
the
office.
O
O
A
S
I
guess
my
question
is
well
in
the
residential
permit
parking
program.
I
think
that
ship
has
sailed.
I
think
that's
pretty
much
finalized
and
they're,
creating
a
process
with
people
to
to
create
requests
for
those.
So
I'm
not
sure
that
would
they'd
be
sort
of
willing
to.
Let
us
look
at
that,
since
that's
basically
either
done
or
very
close
to
being
done.
I
think
staff
would
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
S
Maybe
I've
been
away
for
too
long
and
maybe
maybe
it
got
dropped
during
the
pandemic,
but
but
I
I
would
if
we
were
to
make
a
sort
of
request
in
the
transmittal
associated
with
this,
I
would
I
would
advocating
for
making
it
somewhat
broad,
instead
of
focusing
on
a
specific
topic
like
parking
which
will
inevitably
raise
eyebrows
because
there
are,
there
are
parking
discussions
that
happen.
S
You
know
associated
with
residential
or
or
commercial
development,
or
parking
standards
and
various
precise
plans,
and
it's
just
a
really
big
thing
to
unpack.
Maybe
what
we
say
is
you
know
request
the
ability
to
you
know
hold
study
sessions
on
maybe
goals
that
either
haven't
been
yet
met.
S
You
know
met
yet
that
we're
interested
in
or
that
haven't
been
started
or
that
aren't
progressing
the
way
that,
on
a
timeline
that
we'd
hoped,
maybe
that's,
it's
just
a
suggestion
to
give
us
a
little
bit
more
latitude
but
I'll
I'll
divert
eric
on
that.
A
A
7.1.2
and
7.1.3,
where
there
were
the
three
that
were
that
kind
of
caught
my
attention
on
the
parking.
So
if
those
would
be
that,
I
was
looking
at
commissioner
clark
that
I
were
the
ones
that
I
was
they
felt
like
ones
that
we've
had
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
and
what
and
we've
not,
but
we've
had
not
a
lot
of
progress
on
making
getting
this
completed.
N
Yeah
so
definitely
agree
with
commissioner
clark
around
having
some.
You
know,
benefit
derived
out
of
having
a
kind
of
broad
approach
if
we
want
to
kind
of
combine
a
little
bit
of
specificity
with
the
broadness.
N
If
we
look
at
that,
lud
3.2.1
zoning
ordinance
update
it's
marked
as
a
high
prioritization,
not
started,
and
it's
as
broad,
as
can
be
specifically
citing
update,
allowed
uses
and
development
standards
to
encourage
village,
centers,
transit,
oriented
development
and
flexible
mix
of
land
uses
where
appropriate,
so
that
that
transit-oriented
development
piece
you
know
and
and
kind
of
like
the
encouragement
of
village
center.
So
I
think
that's
one
possible
avenue
for
exploring.
N
You
know
that
kind
of
broadness
around
you
know
what
would
you
know
parking
look
like
within
this
context?
So,
if
that's,
if
we
need
to
get
sp,
if
you
know
mr
anderson
says
hey,
you
need
a
specific
item.
That
seems
like
the
most
broad
specific
item.
Otherwise
you
know
if
we
can
just
cite
all
three
of
them
or
be
as
broad
as
possible
I'll
take
guidance
from
everyone
else
on
on
the
best
approach
there.
But
that
suggestion
is
out
there.
F
Thank
you
chair,
so
so
another
friendly
suggestion
is
looks
like
we've
had
some
time
to
think
about
all
these
things
a
little
more
clearly
to
have
these
type
of
specific
discussions
and
ideas
free
flowing
in
a
manner
that's
pretty
cool.
Actually,
so
a
friendly
suggestion
would
be
how
about
holding
a
retreat.
So
we
can
talk
about
these
things
and
add
on,
and
so,
if
we
phrase
it
that
way,
we
can
look
at
a
list
of
issues
or
topics
of
interests
so
that
the
council
can
then
see
that
we're
taking
time
to
deliberate.
F
But
we've
also
thought
through
the
process,
if
they're
immutable
to
that,
I'm
able
to
that
that'd
be
great,
and
it's
just
a
suggestion.
I'm
new
to
this.
So
I
would
refer
to
eric
and
the
team
to
see
if
that
approach
would
be
a
valid
one,
where
we
can
discuss
even
more
other
options
to
talk
about
too
and
present
our
all
in
one
list
at
the
end
of
that.
But
if
it's
not
feasible,
then
I'm
open
to
your
suggestion
in
terms
of
how
we
should
proceed.
E
Yeah,
certainly,
we
periodically
have
epc
retreats
generally
they're
more
around
just
kind
of
the
the
general
conduct
of
the
epc
and
and
how
well
commissioners
get
to
get
along.
You
know
you
know,
communicate
amongst
each
other
and
and
kind
of
work
with
each
other
and
work
with
staff.
There's
also
some
discussion
about
priorities
and
and
what
kind
of
general
priorities
of
different
commissioners
are
that
that
can
come
up
as
well.
E
So
I
think
in
in
general,
in
order
to
fit
best
with
the
overall
council
goal
setting
process,
we
do
try
to
integrate
these
two,
the
general
plan
process
and
the
goal
setting
process
we
integrate
them
in
the
every
other
year.
E
That
may
be
more
flexible,
more
open-ended,
but
in
that's
just
kind
of
my
response
to
to
your
your
great
recommendation,
and
I
think
it
is
a
reminder
that
we
should
be
scheduling
retreats.
I
think
they
are
an
important
opportunity
for
the
epc
to
you
know
get
to
know
each
other.
A
Brought
up
are
probably
something
that
may
fit
more
along
the
lines
of
something
that
the
next
housing
element.
What
I
was
responding
to
here
was
both
commissioner
clark
and
mr
nunez
saying.
Can
we
point
to
something
that's
in
the
existing
general
plan
actions
it
would
I
don't
view
the
parking
is
comprehensive
of
all
the
things
that
I
think
we
should
look
at,
but
it's
something
that's
actually
a
specific
item
in
the
general
plan.
Actions
that
is
that
has
had
not
has
not
had
pres
progress
at
this
point.
A
We
want
to
wait
the
parking
until
we've
had
that
broader
discussion
about
the
elements
of
things
that
go
into
the
new
housing
element.
The
next
study
session-
I'm
open
to
that.
But
I
it's
part
of
the
parking
seem
like
something
that
we're
kind
of
getting
pregnant
and
maybe
we
could
get
it
finished
and
it's
and
it's
affecting
multiple
projects
we've
seen
in
the
last
year.
So
the
other
items
that
I
brought
up
were
definitely
something
that
would
require
much
more
study,
much
more
discussion
off-site.
A
So
I'm
I
guess,
I'm
open
to
either
approach
either
we
wait
to
hold
everything
for
the
the
study
session
or
I
I
do
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
trying
to
move
move
at
least
put
something
in
front
of
council
to
say.
Could
we
look
at
the
parking
piece
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
others?
R
F
Yeah
I
mean
but
bear
in
mind
my
vantage
point's
different
right
because
on
the
board
at
the
school
level
for
the
school
district,
we
would
have
the
retreat
be
the
goal
session
that
we
had
for
the
year.
So
it's
not
just
getting
to
know
each
other
and
all
that
stuff,
but
it's
also.
What
are
the
goals?
What
have
we
done?
What
have
we
not
done?
Where
are
we
in
between?
F
Where
can
we
improve
hey
staff?
What's
your
idea
on
this?
What's
the
process
like
with
deadlines
throughout
the
course
of
the
year
to
meet
state
requirements
it
goes
on
and
on
and
on
right?
That's
why
I
was
open
to
eric's
perspective
on
what's
the
best
approach,
because
if
that's
not
it,
then
that's
not
gonna
help
right.
So
you
know,
if
eric
says,
do
it
a
certain
way,
I'm
open
to
doing
that,
so
I'm
game.
N
I
would
be
happy
to
go
on
a
retreat
with
everyone
here
anytime.
I
also
think
that
yeah,
we
could
point
at
a
specific
item
in
this
list.
We
have
been
appointed
by
the
council,
as
you
know,
imbued
with
at
least
the
authority
to
make
an
ask,
and
so
you
know
I
still
look
at
that:
lud
3.2
zoning
ordnance
update
as
the
most
specific
and
also
broad
item
that
we
can
look
at
some
of
these.
N
You
know
this
endless
stream
of
one-off
different
projects
and
trying
to
bring
some
discussion
around
standardizing.
I
think
that
would
be
the
target
item.
That's
my
recommendation.
I
would
love
to
at
least
see
what
council
has
to
say
about
it.
Yeah!
That's
that's
my
piece.
M
M
There
is
a
difference
between
asking
the
question
and
then
having
you
know,
really
staff
in
a
position
to
answer
kind
of
all
the
questions
that
we
would
have,
and
one
of
the
things
I
that
I
would
want
to
be
mindful
of
is
I
wouldn't
want
to.
M
My
hope
is
that
there
would
be
enough
time
between
sort
of
the
the
ask
that
we
have
and
when
staff
would
be
in
a
position
without
rushing
them
or
knocking
a
bunch
of
other
projects
out
of
the
way
that
they're
in
a
in
a
position
to
really
you
know,
to
have
a
good
product
to
show
to
us
to
help
us
think
this
through
to
have
facts
in
front
of
us,
etc,
etc.
M
So
I
think
my
my
point
is:
I
want
to
have
this
conversation
and
I'm
curious
to
know
from
staff
when
a
reasonable
time
would
be
to
have
it,
because
I
don't
want
to
ambush
them
with
a
new
homework
project
and
disrupt
all
the
many
many
many
other
things
that
they've
they've
already
got
on
their
plate.
So
I
just
want
to
be
compassionate
about
that.
A
Mr
clark,
the
the
one,
the
the
item
that
commissioner
is
suggesting,
which
is
the
one
to
a
full
vote-
zoning
ordinance
update.
My
reaction
is
that
council
might
look
at
that
and
go
eek.
No,
that's
a
really
big
deal.
That's
a
much
bigger
deal
than
just
looking
at
the
parking
standards.
As
someone
who
was
in
their
shoes
before,
would
you
would
you
be
like?
How
would
you,
how
might
you
react
to
something
like
that.
S
I
I
agree.
I
I
if
I
saw
that
in
in
part
of
the
packet
I'd
be
like
you
know,
why
is
the
epc
going
off
and
looking
at
zoning
ordinances
that
we
haven't,
you
know,
aren't
already
looking
at
sort
of
thing
and
that's
not
to
say
that
it
isn't
a.
S
I,
I
think
it's
a
very
good
idea
along
the
tangent
of
you
know,
trying
to
expand,
expand
the
purview
or
our
ability
to
look
at
some
of
the
different
things
in
the
general
plan
implementation
process
and
status
there,
but
I
I
think
I
think
that
anything
related
to
zoning
ordinances
would
be
able
to
worry
from.
Frankly,
I
think
parking
is
a
really
big
deal
too.
So
that's
that's
why
I
sort
of
shied
away
from
it
anything
related
to
parking
and
all
the
different
things
that
it
touches
is
something
that's
come
up.
S
A
number
of
different
times
been
addressed
or
attempted
to
be
addressed
a
number
of
different
times,
and
that's
why
I
was
trying
to
find
some
way
to
say,
like
you
know,
maybe
at
some
point
we
can
have
a
study
session
or
a
discussion
about
you
know
where
we're
at
in
some
of
the
implementation
of
the
action
plans
and
things
in
the
in
the
general
plan
without
getting
into
specifics.
Although
I
know
you
care
you
care
deeply
about
this,
there's
one
specific
thing.
S
S
This-
is
just
something
that
we
can
just
either
discuss
at
another
time,
unless
we
can
come
up
with
some
crafty
wording
to
put
into
a
transmittal
but
the
if
I'm
just
going
to
be
really
blunt
like
this
is
going
to
be
staff.
Is
this
going
to
be
a
consent
item
for
council.
S
So
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
consent,
item
like
I
should
be
really
blunt
like
not
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
read
the
entire
report
associated
with
this
and
see
our
transmittal,
so
we
can
put
it
in
there
if,
but
I'm
just
being
really
blunt
with
you.
So
if
you're,
if
your
question
is
to
like
you
know,
is
it
worth
throwing
in
an
ask
and
a
consent
calendar,
you
know
staff
report
somewhere.
I
don't
know
I
it's
your
call
I'll.
Let
you
all.
A
Thank
you
for
your
kid.
Please
cheer
again.
O
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
candid
response.
I
think
that
helped
some,
I
totally
understand
the
desire
to
to
put
forward
something
to
to
counsel
and
say
hey.
Can
we
take
a
look
at
this?
We
feel
this
is
more
important
in
going
through
when
you
guys
were
calling
them
out.
O
I
was
looking
at
them
and
reading
them
and
thinking
oh,
but
then
there's
that
other
thing
that
may
tie
in
when
I
hear
public
comments
that
ties
in
with
that
and
then
and
I
I
get
hesitant
even
though
initially
I'm
like
yeah,
it's
a
great
idea,
I'm
reading
it
and
thinking.
Oh,
it
ties
in
so
much
with
other
things
that
I'm
not
even
sure
I
could
prioritize
it
at
this
late
day,
because,
honestly,
when
I
came
in,
I
did
not
have
any
that
I
was
going
to
say
hey.
This
is
what
I
think
is
important.
O
Let's
move
that
forward,
so
I
am
totally
in
favor
with
commissioner
gutierrez's
idea
of
a
retreat
anything
where
we
could
talk
it
out
and
prepare
for
this
topic
and
hash
it
out
together
and
put
forward
to
counsel
as
a
specific
item,
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
G
I
think
I
think
a
retreat
would
be
valuable
for
our
own
understanding
and
positioning.
I
do
want
to
signal
the
importance,
and
I
hear
that
it
is
a
much
larger
issue,
commissioner
clark
than
probably
what
we
realize,
but
I
do
think
there
has
been
a
theme
that
it
is
the
cost
of
parking,
and
our
parking
requirements
in
particular
is
something
that
seems
to
surface
again
again.
G
G
I
think
framing
it
in
that
sense
of
tracking,
where
we
are
against
certain
action
plans
and
objectives
and
might
be
a
valuable
way,
if
not
in
a
retreat
in
a
study
session,
and
maybe
we
just
pick
a
couple
of
themes
that
have
surfaced
in
recent
years
or
just
recent
projects
I
mean
in
the
past
six
months.
I
think
we
could
probably
pick
a
couple.
A
A
Is
that
something
that
we
would
need
counsel
to
kind
of
sign
off
you
guys
spending
time
on
or
is
that
something
we
can
say?
That's
what
we
want
to
do,
and
so
you'll
go
head
down
that
path,
because
it
sounds
like
everybody
kind
of
feels.
There's
some
value
in
having
discussion
around
this.
But
it's
not
that's
not
on
your
work
plan
right
now.
So.
E
I
I
have,
I
have
a
couple
of
concerns.
One
is
obviously
you
know
what
what
is
the
prior.
You
know
what
is
council's
priority
for
staff
to
work
on.
The
other
concern
that
I
have
is:
how
does
the
commission's
direction
out
of
that
study
session
feed
into
the
city's
process
right?
E
How
do
we
make
sure
that
that's
not
just
direction
that
ends
up?
You
know
that
it's
a
conversation,
that's
had
that
doesn't
go
anywhere
right
and
I
think
we'd
have
to
what
what
what
staff
has
set
up
is
this.
E
You
know
kind
of
bi-annual
process
where
we,
we
feed
things
from
the
commission
into
the
council
goal
setting
process
so
that
we
know
that
what
the
commission
is
is
recommending
is
actually
going
somewhere
right
if
you
want
to
have
a
kind
of
a
a
brainstorming
session
or
a
retreat
or
some
other
kind
of
session,
to
kind
of
prepare
for
that
opportunity,
so
that
you're
kind
of
coming
into
that
with
kind
of
better
formulated
opinions,
then
you
know
like
that
could
be
something
that
we
can
look
into
and
try
to
schedule
kind
of
along.
E
The
lines
of
you
know
we're
going
to
schedule
this.
This
kind
of
development
review
overview
study
session.
For
you
all
kind
of
thing,
kind
of
a
commission
training,
slash
retreat
kind
of
process.
E
N
Yep
thanks
eric,
so
I
totally
hear
that
concern
and
I
actually
think
it
it's
I
mean
incredibly
valid
in
terms
of
actually
having
like
efficiency
effectiveness
in
our
time
and
action
would
a
better
course
of
action.
A
more
appropriate
course
of
action,
be
some
kind
of
like
you
know,
recommendation
around
hey,
council.
This
is
your,
did
you
say
biennial
biennial?
I
always
confuse
it
too.
N
Whatever
hey
you
know
it's
now
your
goal
setting
session
epc
has
formally
recommended
that
zoning
ordinance
update
b
or
we
are
throwing
our
you
know
two
cents
in
that.
We
believe
this
is
a
very
worthy.
N
You
know
thing
for
you
guys
to
prioritize
in
your
goal,
setting
this
this
cycle
and
then
you
know
that
gives
staff
the
appropriate
time
council,
like
reviews
it
and
I'm
sure
it'll
come
back
to
us
anyway,
and
you
know
these
things
move
glacially
anyway,
but
would
that
be
a
much
better
outcome?
In
your
view,.
E
N
We
would
just
basically
say
I
think
you
said
there's
a
biannual,
like
general
plan
update
that
they
get
or
something
like
that
or
or
maybe
you
could
help
me
with
this,
because
I
actually
don't
know
that
right.
Basically,
at
what
point
is
it
appropriate
for
us
to
say,
hey
we've
identified
that
for
your
next
goal-setting
session.
I
think
it
happens.
Every
two
years
epc
is
strongly
recommending
that
you
know
you
guys
prioritize
this
as
part
of
your
next
two
years
of
work
items
am
I
I
hope,
I'm
making
sense.
G
So
in
my
years
of
doing
the
goal
setting
and
I
know
or
epc's
work
plan
and
feeding
into
the
goal
setting,
I
always
just
feel
like
the
scope
is
so
big
and
what's
on
our
work
plan
and
what
we
put
forth
is
already
really
ambitious,
and
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
tonight
is
that
in
between
what
the
council
goals
are
and
the
projects
that
we're
looking
at
there's
a
desire
to
just
take
a
moment
and
and
say
like,
is
this
working
and
eric
and
commissioner
clark?
What
I'm
not
sure
is
like?
G
Are
we
getting
into
a
range
where
we're
not
an
advisory
body,
and-
and
this
is
more
of
a
policy
sphere,
and
so
that's
the
place
where
I
feel
like
there's
some
some
gray
area,
because,
yes,
we
look
at
projects.
Yes,
we
inform
the
goals
and
then
we
do
want
to
have
that
moment
of
being
reflective
and
and
looking
at
you
know
what
is
this
resulting
in
and
these
annual
progress
reports
and
the
general
plan
update
seems
like
it
could
be
that
space.
But
if
we're
getting
out
of
our
our
purview,
it
would
be
helpful.
G
To
kind
of
know,
is
that
not
something
that
we
should
be
looking
at
or
where
is
the?
Where
is
the
space,
because
I
I
get
that
staff
time
is
totally
limited
and
that
we
have
formal
processes
already
in
place,
but
I
think
that's
what
I'm
hearing
is
like.
A
S
Clerk,
so
I
I
think,
there's
two
ways
to
approach
this
and
one
I'll
just
be
very
blunt
on.
I
think,
if
you're
looking
at
I
you
know,
we
want
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
the
common
themes
that
we
see
recurring.
You
know
it's
or
what
are
we
making
constant
exceptions
for
you
know
parking.
These
are
some
other
things,
and
maybe
we
sort
of
prepare
a
list
to
at
roughly
this
time
next
year
to
partner
council
like
hey,
we
want
to
be
helpful
here.
S
Here
are
some
of
the
common
themes
that
we're
seeing
over
and
over
again
that
we
think
that
we
could.
You
know
if
you're
willing
to
want
to
spend
some
time
on,
we
feel
like
we
could
do
a
lot
of
good
in
terms
of
streamlining
things
and
fixing
some
processes
and
other
things.
If
your
goal
is
to
tackle
parking.
S
But
what
what
I
don't
think
would
be
a
waste
of
time
is
you're,
starting
to
look
at
common
themes
that
we're
seeing
in
the
implementation
of
the
of
of
the
general
plan
and
affordable
housing,
those
things
and
having
that
list
available,
and
I
think
they,
I
think
the
council
would
find
that
very
constructive
and
helpful
if
they
start
to
look
at
what
they
should
prioritize
going
forward.
S
I
just
don't
think
that
something
like
as
big
as
parking,
which
touches
so
many
different
areas,
regardless
of
whether
it's
just
for
affordable
housing
developments
or
brothers
for
other
things,
if
it's
not
already
on
their
work
plan,
there's
something
to
update
it's
just
not
going
to
get
done,
because
they're
they're
going
to
have
to
take
some
things
off
of
their
plan
already
to
make
it
all
work,
and
it
would
be
better
for
us
to
have
those
discussions
in
concert
with
them.
So
it
all
happens
roughly
around
the
same
time
as
opposed
to
us
doing
something.
A
Thank
you,
commissioners,.
F
Yeah,
no,
I
think
that
makes
sense,
commissioner
clark
so
and
that's
the
whole
point
of
this
right
that
there's
several
unique,
no
analysis
is
really
unique,
but
there's
interesting
factors
that
come
into
play
because
I
think
we're
an
advisory
board
of
some
sort
right.
But
we
don't
do
policy,
we're,
not
city
council.
I
think
we
all
get
that,
but
the
commonality
of
issues
that
the
commission
faces
and
sees
as
a
pattern
of
ineffectiveness.
F
It's
a
you
know
it's
a
right
to
be
able
to
discuss
what
we
see
as
possible.
Hey
look
at
this
type
of
issues
right
because
then
you
know
city,
council
they're
at
their
own
level
of
governance.
I
totally
understand
that,
and
so
are
we,
and
so,
if
we
can
list
out
these
issues
and
and
and
bring
them
up
accordingly,
when
they
should
be
throughout
the
course
of
the
year.
Someone
said
that
there's
process
and
protocols
in
place
yeah
for
some
things,
but
not
for
all
and
we're
seeing
that
right
now.
F
A
I
look
at
the
arena
numbers
that
that
you
know
brittany
just
showed
up,
and
I
started
using
how
we've
done
over
the
last
seven
years
and
going
to
enter
eighth
year
says
that
we
are
not.
The
processes
that
are
in
place
today
do
not
deliver
blow
market
rate
housing
at
the
level
that
they
need
to
going
forward.
A
My
thinking
is
that
part
of
what
we
should
do
we
should
be
looking
at
is
what
are
those
things
that
seem
to
be
working?
What
are
those
things
that
don't
and
are
there
so
I'm
going
to
take
a
little
exception
to
what
christian
nunes
is
suggesting
and
that
I
don't
believe
we
should
look
at
something
as
broad
as
all
of
the
zoning
standards.
A
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
necessarily
interested
in
mr
clark,
I'm
not
interested
in
looking
at
parking
on
every
single,
every
single
thing
on
every
single
zoning
level
across
the
entire
city.
My
my
interest
is
is
very
much
focused
on
the
below
market
rate,
and
I
don't-
I
guess,
I'm
not
necessarily
hearing
other
folks
talking
the
same
way.
W
A
But
when
it
comes
around
to
asking
for
these
goals,
we're
like
tossing
these
out
at
the
last
minute,
I
would
love
the
chance
for
us
to
talk
about
that
kind
of
thing
for
more
than
just
a
couple
weeks
before
next
year's
goal
setting.
So
we
can
go
into
it
and
say:
here's
here's
our
collective
recommendation
on
what's
working,
what's
not
and
things
that
we
maybe
want
to
that.
We
should
go
off
in
some
more
action:
arms
now,
maybe
summer
action
items
in
the
future
period,
but
that
was
kind
of
where
I
was
coming
from.
A
S
I
think
that
makes
total
sense
and
I
I
agree
with
you-
I'm
not
trying
to
be
adversarial.
I
just
I
think,
council's
acutely
aware
of
our
failures
in
some
of
the
areas
that
you
just
identified
in
housing
and
below
market
rate,
especially,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
if
they
felt
that
the
epc
was
the
best
place
to
start
there.
S
They
would
have
asked
us
to
do
that,
and
so
maybe
what
the
better
way
to
do
is
to
sort
of
quasi-raise
our
hand
and
be
like
we're
willing
to
look
at
this,
and-
and
maybe
we
just
say
that
we're
you
know
we're
willing
to
look
at
this
and
we'll
we'll
plan
to
do
that
as
part
of
the
the
next
housing
element
and-
or
maybe
we
can
just
do
that,
because
I
think
it
does
ties
or
dovetails
well
into
the
next
housing
element
update
and
some
of
the
the
thought
that
we
put
into
you
know:
how
do
we
make
this
one
work
better
than
the
last
one
and
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
saw
are
some
of
the
products
that
we
didn't
make,
and
maybe
we
don't
even
have
to
ask
permission
to
do
that.
S
So
I
I
guess
I
guess
I
if
I
had
an
avenue
to
do
some
of
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
and
do
it
through
something
like
a
housing
element
that
we
probably
already
have
some
permission
to
to
to
explore
those
topics
within.
I
would
probably
take
that,
as
opposed
to
sort
of
you
know,
trying
to
carve
out
a
separate
something
separate
from
the
housing
online
process
or
some
other
process.
That's
going
on
now
and
then
the
other
nice
way
that
that
ties
in
really
well
is
housing.
S
N
I
I
definitely
commissioner
gutierrez's
earlier
comments.
I
I
find
extremely
like
I
agree
with
them
a
lot
right
in
terms
of
those
kind
of
differentiated
tiers
of
governance
and
us
like
advisory
right.
I
think
that
we're
all
incredibly
capable-
and
you
know,
astute
individuals
that
were
empowered.
You
know
not
just
advise,
but
I
think
part
of
that
at
least
implies
even
like
asking
and
as
far
as
the
you
know,
kind
of
that
zoning
code
stuff
with
chair
cranston
yeah.
Definitely
you
know.
N
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
go
that
huge.
My
concern
with
kind
of
like
going
as
specific
as
kind
of
like
parking.
N
You
know
on
bmr
projects
specifically,
is
that
then
I
do
think
you
know
that's
where
commissioner
clark's
last
comment
does
kind
of
start
to
feel
very
palpable
to
me,
which
is
that
it
it
doesn't
feel
like
it
is
dovetailing
into
an
existing
process.
That
is
already
happening
that
we
could
just
kind
of
slot
right
into,
and
so
my
just
to
clarify
my
you
know,
intent
and
belief
around
that
that
zoning
ordinance
update
is
that
it
selects
or
checks
the
box
around
the
general
plan.
Update
is
an
existing
process.
N
It's
a
broad.
You
know
kind
of
item
that
we
could
kind
of.
You
know
if
it
becomes
a
conversation
with
the
council
like
well
what
specifically
you're
trying
to
look
at
then
at
least
there's
some
kind
of
you
know
dovetailing
that
can
happen
other
than
that,
like
I'm,
not
in
any
way.
N
Married
to
that
you
know,
I
don't
I'm
not
here
to
die
on
the
cross
of
like
hey,
let's
push
for
a
zoning
code
update
because
my
intent
is
is
merely
to
kind
of
like
provide
avenues
for
some
of
the
discussion
that
has
been
brought
up
earlier.
N
You
know
is
especially
in
that
last
item
for
the
housing
element
to
try
and
find
an
avenue
for
us
to
like
have
those
discussions
that
I
think
you
raised
around
bmr
units
and
and
kind
of
what's
going
on
with
you
know
our
ability
to
deliver
or
not
deliver
them.
So
you
know,
maybe
it's
because
it's
getting
late
and-
and
you
know
I
don't
know
you
know,
but
I
would
have
reservations
around
unless
there
is
like.
You
know,
consensus
around
a
specific
kind
of
parking.
N
You
know
item
that
we
can
pull
out
of
this
general
plan
update
or
something
like
that.
Then
I
would
feel
a
little
bit
more
reserved
around
kind
of
making
a
general
request
around
parking,
so
so
yeah,
that's
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
heading
at
right.
Now.
A
So,
can
I
ask
what
would
you
when
what
commissioner
clark
suggested
was
that
we
focus
this
discussion
around
the
housing
element
and
that
it
may
also
then
lead
to
actions
that
we
might
request
our
goals
that
we
could
put
in
front
of
council
next
year?
Is
that
that
a
path
that
you
would
also
support.
N
If
we
can
get
that
in
a
clear,
concise
kind
of
like
sentence
and
and
kind
of
shared
like
hey,
we
are
directing,
or
we
are
asking
council
that
we
will
be
looking
at
this.
I
think
until
we
have
that
kind
of
language,
I'm
not
sure
I
can
fully
be
clear
on
what
I'm
supporting,
but
I
think
commissioner
clark's
sentiment
around
hey.
We
need
to
find
something
that's
already
happening
that
we
can
seamlessly
slot
into.
I,
I
really
believe,
that's
imperative.
N
I
also
believe
that
we
have
every
right
to
ask,
like
commissioner
gutierrez
said
so
outside
of
those
two
things,
I'm
not
fully
sure
I
can.
You
know,
be
clear
on
what
I'm
supporting
or
not
supporting.
L
So
the
housing
element
update,
as
the
commission
knows,
is
more
than
the
site
inventory,
and
it
includes
policies
and
programs.
You
know
to
help
produce
housing,
including
bmr
housing.
So
it
actually
does
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
talk
about
this
in
the
context
of
the
next
meeting
on
the
housing
element
update,
and
you
don't
need
to
ask
for
permission
to
talk
about
those
things,
because
it's
well
within
the
scope
of
that
project.
L
So
I
think
that
would
be
the
best
time
to
address
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
then
I
do
think
that
it
will
segue
very
neatly
into
the
next
goal,
setting
which
will
be
here
before
you
know
it.
I
know
it's
a
year
away,
but
it'll
be
here
quickly
and
I
think
if
there's
a
further
desire
to
talk
about
other
action
items,
I
I
don't.
L
I
think
the
best
opportunity
will
also
be
kind
of
later
in
the
year
and
not
with
this
annual
progress
report,
because
it
really
the
council
is,
is
going
to
accept
it
as
accounts
as
a
consent
item
and
it's
they
are
not
looking
at
as
at
it
as
an
opportunity
to
reprioritize.
L
F
And
ms
lee:
that's
why
you're
the
esquire
right
so
thank
you
for
the
advice,
because
it's
sound
advice
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
clark,
because
of
that
former
city
council
experience.
It
comes
in
handy
for
sure,
so
I
I
like
what
our
city
assistant,
city,
attorneys
and
assistants
between
stanley
lee
said.
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
approach
to
look
at
this
and
then
to
delve
into
the
issues
and
then
from
may
you
know,
make
friendly
suggestions,
so
I'm
on
board
with
that
approach.
If,
if
that
you
know,
if
that
helps.
A
I
think
krishna
is,
I
think,
and
christopher
correct
me
wrong
right
now,
you're
saying
that
we
actually
don't
need
to
put
in
an
actual
request
to
counsel
at
all
that
we
we.
W
A
S
S
What
I'll
probably
do
is
make
a
just
a
brief
requested
staff
that,
in
the
staff
report
that
comes
out
in
the
in
the
next
housing
element
update
session,
that
there's,
you
know
a
maybe
one
of
the
questions
in
that
is,
or
maybe
one
of
the
sections
in
that
is
just
a
reminder
for
us
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
you,
know,
discuss.
S
You
know,
policies
that
that
may
make
this
next
housing
element
more
more
impactful
or
or
help
us
to
meet
some
of
the
goals
that
we
felt
behind
on
the
last
one,
and
that
would
open
up
the
opportunity
to
discuss
things
like
parking
and
those
things.
So
why
don't
I
go
ahead
and
move
that
we
recommended
the
city
council
recommend
that
the
city
council
accept
the
general
plan
annual
progress
report.
M
F
A
S
Just
to
what
I
said
before,
I
think
maybe
in
the
next
staff
report
that
we
get
if
there's
or
update
on
the
next
discussion
we
have
about
the
the
the
the
the
next
housing
element.
Maybe
we
can
just
have
a
placeholder
somewhere
or
even
if
it's
just
in
the
council
question
or
the
council,
the
questions
they
have
to
write.
Really,
the
the
responses
are
the
questions
that
you're
asking
us
to
answer.
S
Maybe
one
of
them
could
just
be
a
reminder
that
and
that
we
can
discuss
policy
related
matters
that
might
help
help
with
the
implementation,
which
is
you
know,
parking
standards
and
other
things
so
sort
of
just
a
reminder
for
or
some
sort
of
place
within
that
that
would
offer
the
opportunity
for
us
to
have
those
discussions.
A
Any
other
announcements,
upcoming
meetings,
eric.
E
Yeah,
so
the
next
meeting,
so
I
just
want
to
let
remind
everybody
that
usually
epc
meetings
are
the
first
and
third
wednesdays
this
month.
It's
the
first
and
fourth
wednesdays,
so
don't
show
up
on
the
16th
we're
doing
on
the
23rd.
E
We
do
have
a
tentative
item,
a
study
session
for
a
gatekeeper
project,
it's
the
public,
storage
and
affordable
housing
project
on
terra
bella,
and
then,
of
course,
we
do
have
the
reason
that
we're
pushing
it
out
an
extra
week
is
so
that
commissioners
have
an
opportunity
to
go
to
the
planning
commissioners
academy,
which
is
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
We
have
a
couple
of
commissioners
who
will
be
going
and
hopefully
they
can
report
back
on
some
of
the
exciting
things
they
learn
and
I
think
that'll
do
it.
A
I
guess
a
question
on
the
feedback
from
council
sessions:
a
decision
by
council
to
kind
of
defer
the
decision
on
555
with
middle
field.
Will
that
come
back
to
us
or
is
that
strictly
a
response
to
council.
E
I
didn't
I
did
not
report
on
that
at
the
last
meeting,
that
was
on
february
8th
the
555
middle
field
project,
and
I
can
just
you
know
in
case
people
didn't
know
the
the
council
approved
the
or
certified
the
environmental
document,
but
requested
that
staff
return
with
evaluation
of
parking
reduction
and
preservation
of
heritage
trees
on
that
555
project.