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A
All
right,
good
morning,
everybody
we
will
call
the
meeting
of
November
1st
of
the
downtown
committee
to
order
and
John.
Could
you
take
the
role.
B
Absolutely
Committee
Member
Cormier
here
Gupta
Keith
here
Lang.
B
She's
here
all
right,
Lynn
present
thank
you.
Pascal
was
running
late
Shake
here,
yen.
C
B
And
Casper
Zak.
A
All
right,
we
have
a
quorum
moving
on
item
number
three,
the
minutes.
Approval
and
minutes
were
sent
out
for
the
October
meeting.
Are
there
any
questions
comments
or,
if
not,
a
motion
to
approve.
A
All
right
David
looks
like
that
was
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second,
oh
second,
and
it's
seconded
by
Jamil
any
questions
or
comments
all
right,
seeing
none
and
before
you
take
roll
everybody
I
know,
because
we
have
an
audience.
It's
important
that
we
speak
up
so
try
and
anticipate
and
be
on
verbals.
So
you
can.
We
could
actually
hear
you
as
opposed
to
gesture
okay,
the
vote.
B
B
B
My
attendance
music
Vice
chair
Baird,
approved
and
chair
Casper,
Zak
hi.
A
That
sounds
like
the
minutes
are
approved
so
moving
on
upcoming
agenda
items,
and
you
can
see
on
the
agenda.
There
was
busking
and
music
in
downtown
general
maintenance
and
cleanliness
and
Castro
Bikeway
feasibility
study
any
details
on
any
of
those
John
or
anything
else.
B
We'll
be
tackling
busking
and
music.
Actually
in
the
New
Year,
we
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
solve
that
in
this
fiscal
year,
general
maintenance
and
cleanliness
I
am
hoping
to
have
an
update
for
the
committee
next
meeting
and
then,
as
noted
in
the
agenda,
the
Bikeway
feasibility
is
scheduled
for
February.
B
A
Any
thoughts,
yeah
Marina
I.
F
Just
wanted
to
mention
we
just
recently,
we
I
mean
my
business
at
on
Castro
Street
we've
been
struggling
with
the
hot
dog
stands
for
a
very
long
time
now
and
then
just
this
past
weekend,
we
noticed
that
they're
dumping
their
oil
into
the
storm
drain,
and
so
that's
I
think
a
huge
issue,
and
if
you
go
right
in
front
of
mervin's
right
now,
that's
where
they
basically
stand.
F
If
you
check
the
gutter,
it
is
just
nasty,
it's
I,
don't
know
if
they're
probably
clogged
by
now,
we
have
it
on
camera
and
we
forwarded
it
to
the
to
the
fire
department,
so
they're
going
to
investigate
we're
going
to
forward
them
the
videos,
so
they
can
do
something
about
it.
I
know
the
city
is
very,
very
careful
on
on
how
to
maintain
those
storm
drains.
What
can
go
in
there?
What
cannot
go
in
there,
especially
not
oil
I
mean
we
all
have
grease
traps
in
our
businesses.
F
G
Yeah,
it's
just
offline
right
now,
if
you
could
contact
me
as
well
on
that,
so
I
can
get
some
of
that
information
as
well
perfect.
A
Yeah
and
as
we
know,
our
storm
drains
all
run
directly
to
the
Bay
so
and
during
the
Art
and
Wine
Festival,
even
though
everybody
has
all
this
nice
clean
ice
water,
we're
not
allowed
to
dump
that
either
it
has
to
go
into
you
know,
storage
boxes
and
gets
hauled
away,
is
Wastewater.
So
okay
and
Matthew's
still
got
your
hand
up.
Did
you
want
to
say
something
more
or
just
behind
the
times
on
your
zooming?
Okay.
A
All
right
next
item,
then,
is
oral
Communications
from
the
public,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
committee
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda
and
the
committee
cannot
pursue
into
state
law
address
any
issues
raised
during
oral
Communications
from
the
public.
With
all
of
that
said,
we
got
any
members
of
the
public
John.
B
A
B
This
will
be
Edgar
going
forward
and
Maureen
will
have
the
events
update
great.
H
Awesome.
Thank
you
good
morning.
Everyone
I
am
now
filling
in
so
I'll,
be
in
the
meetings
from
now
on
Creations
on
to
bigger
work.
Now
these
days,
so
she's
probably
excited
to
be
working
on
getting
more
time
to
work
on
her
projects,
but
nonetheless,
I
do
have
the
update.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
share
the
screen
here.
I
H
On
the
facade,
improvements
for
number
nine
number,
11
and
formerly
number
12
were
removed
from
the
list
and
then,
as
far
as
new
improvements
coming
in
and
permits
that
we
have
on
file
is
when
the
800
California
Street,
which
is
going
to
be
here
at
the
intersection
of
California
and
Castro.
It's
a
new
restaurant
going
in
there.
The
name
of
that
restaurant
is
Limon
and
here
is
building.
H
This
is
where
they'll
be
going
into
I
do
know
they
submitted
a
building,
tenant,
Improvement,
so
I
do
know
those
are
in
with
the
building
division,
I'm,
sure
they're
still
going
through
them
so
and
check
on
that.
Come
from
there.
Sorry.
H
The
name
of
the
restaurant
is
Limon,
it's
like
the
lemon
is.
F
H
Think
I
want
to
say
it's,
probably
the
latter
and
derived
just
given
that
there's
an
apostrophe
there
on
the
o.
So
it's
the
one.
H
And
another
facade
update
that
we
received
was
707
through
737.
H
H
And
other
than
that,
there
is
no
other
modifications
or
improvements
on
here.
I
do
want
to
share
with
everyone
that
the
planning
division
is
to
begin
in
ordinance
today
to
or
tomorrow
to
the
environmental
Planning
Commission
to
essentially
put
a
cap
on
office
space
in
general.
This
is
pursuant
to
the
state
regulations
that
just
are
looking
to
kick
in
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
and
let
me
get
that
assembly
Bill.
H
Essentially,
the
assembly
bill
would
eliminate
parking
to
no
parking
minimums
within
downtown,
so
that's
ab2097,
and
in
order
to
evaluate
how
this
may
possibly
impact
small
businesses,
how
it
may
possibly
impact
I
may
possibly
impact
the
job
to
housing
ratio,
imbalance
that
we
have
currently
in
the
city
there
that
is
currently
being
proposed
to
the
environmental
Planning
Commission
again,
this
will
be
tomorrow
and
that
is
being
done
by.
H
B
A
All
right,
why
don't
we
move
on
and
see
if
he
rejoins
us
and
then
he
can
finish
up
the
development
update
John?
Who
are
you
doing,
Castro
Street.
B
I
am
doing
Castro
Street.
We
do
have
a
member
of
the
public,
though
so,
if
we
want
to
before
going
to
Castro
Street
open
it
up
for
public,
okay,
sure.
B
There
are
no
hands
raised
for
this
item.
Okay,.
A
All
right,
we
will
postpone
6.1
or
table
that
until
Edgar
gets
back
and
in
the
meantime,
John.
Why
don't
you
give
us
an
update
on
Castro
Street.
B
Sure,
just
some
verbal
comments
for
the
committee
regarding
activities
around
Castro
Street.
So,
however,
25th
city
council
did
adopt
an
ordinance
to
enact
The
Pedestrian
malls.
This
was
basically
the
final
action.
Basically,
the
ordinance
becomes
effective
within
30
days
so
effectively.
The
Pedestrian
Mall
is
now
approved
and
in
place
for
downtown
Castro
Street,
the
100
through
300
blocks.
We
will
be
having
the
second
reading
of
the
business
Improvement
assessment
district
for
November
15th
we've
had
an
initial
meeting,
which
was
the
noticing
meeting
in
October.
B
So
this
is
the
second
reading
final
adoption
for
the
Bia
assessments
for
2023
that'll
be
November
15th
tonight
at
city
council.
They
will
be
taking
an
action.
This
is
on
consent
to
extend
the
Caster
streets
program
effectively.
The
Castro
streets
program
is
what
actually
allows
businesses
to
be
operating
on
the
street
and
in
in
the
way
you
see
it
today,
because
The
Pedestrian
Mall
was
approved,
but
the
functional
and
design
guidelines
were
not
January.
B
In
theory,
that
means
businesses
would
have
to
come
off
the
street
because
the
Castro
streets
program
is
set
to
Sunset,
but
because
we
did
not
bring
forward
yet
the
functional
plan
and
design
guidelines
we're
taking
this
action
to
keep
Castro
streets
in
place
through
2023,
and
this
is
just
a
transition
period.
So,
as
we
evolve
into
The
Pedestrian
Mall,
we
can
bring
Forward
Design
guidelines
and
a
functional
plan
that
will
be
approved,
which
will
then
replace
Castro
streets.
So
the
action
is
extend
Castro
streets
for
another
year.
B
This
provides
us
the
opportunity
to
go
through
the
ad
hoc
committee
process
to
adopt
the
design,
guidelines
and
functional
plan,
and
then
once
those
are
adopted
by
Council,
we
will
rescind
the
Castro
streets
program
and
we'll
have
these
new
guidelines
to
operate
under.
So
that
is
the
action
at
Council
this
evening,
and
then
we
continue
to
work
on
decluttering
Castro.
A
little
bit.
We've
met
tense,
going
away,
we've
been
working
with
businesses
to
pick
up
some
of
the
items
that
I've
either
broken
or
have
just
lost
their
luster.
B
If
you
will
so
we're
trying
to
do
some
cleaning
activity
and
then
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
committee
a
real
quick
update
on
vacancies,
I
know
this
is
tends
to
be
it
an
important
issue
that
people
are
concerned
about.
So
I
just
did
a
quick
inventory
this
morning,
and
this
is
a
little
small.
So
let
me
increase
the
size,
but
there
is
genuine
interest
in
understanding
vacancy.
B
B
So,
as
you
read
across
there's
the
ground
floor
vacancy
non-ground
floor
vacancy
is
obviously
like
the
Second
Story
third
story
or
for
her
larger
buildings,
the
fifth
Story
and
then
whether
there
are
actual
permits
being
processed
in
those
vacancies,
and
then
a
couple
of
these
businesses
are
actually
in
the
process
of
change
ownership.
So
they
are
vacant,
but
they're
they
will
be
tenanted
they're
in
a
change
of
ownership.
B
So
what
you
can
see,
as
you
look
across
the
blocks
and
kind
of
summing
across
the
actual
block
that
has
the
greatest
vacancy,
is
the
400
block
a
lot
of
people
viewed
the
300
block
with
the
most
vacancy.
The
difference
is
in
the
300
block.
We
have
more
ground
floor
which
is
kind
of
Street
facing
vacancies,
but
the
400
block
we
have
the
most
vacancies
actually
and
so
kind
of
reading
across
you
can
see
vacancy.
B
This
is
of
the
spaces
not
by
building,
so
we've
got
six
percent
vacancy
in
the
100
block,
16
vacancy
in
the
217
30
percent
onwards.
There's
another
summary
down
here,
just
to
kind
of
highlight.
What's
going
on
so
of
the
ground
floor
vacancies,
there's
19
vacant
units
that
are
basically
facing
the
street,
that
would
be
retail
opportunities.
B
There's
two
of
them
that
are
in
the
process
of
changing
ownership,
so
those
will
be
tainted
tenanted
and
there
are
two
business
leads
right
now
that
I
am
aware
of
that
are
letter
of
interest
in
the
vacant
spots.
So
once
those
kind
of
flush
out,
if
you
will
the
ground
floor,
vacancies,
a
long
Caster
sheet
end
up
being
12.,
not
really
19.
B
and
on
the
non-ground
floor
vacancies.
There's
ten
I
would
like
to
footnote
this
because
I
don't
have
access
to
some
of
the
multi-story
buildings.
There
may
be
sub
units
within
those
Towers.
So
10
is
in
under
count
because
there
may
be
say
a
third
floor
with
12
vacant
units
in
it.
I
just
don't
know
if
there's
one
unit
in
there
or
12
I,
just
captured
as
one
as
I
don't
have
the
ability
to
enter
the
building.
So
please
note
that
is
an
under
representation
of
the
non-ground
floor,
recognizing
that
limitation.
B
So
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
vacancy
issues
in
downtown,
and
that
concludes
my
report
on
Castro
Street
update.
A
C
Have
we
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
last
week,
I'm
still
concerned
that
we're
losing
retail
downtown
and
the
Jennings
lock,
Museum,
building
or
Jennings
building
that
was
recently
permitted
to
have
The
Kitchen
Story.
C
You
dessert
story
and
that's
one
of
the
few
large
Footprints
in
terms
of
potential
retail,
so
I
know
the
owners
are
probably
happy
to
get
a
tenant
in
there,
but
that
was
one
of
the
potentially
could
have
been
a
nice
retail
space
because
of
the
large
footprint
so
I'm
happy
on
one
part,
but
I'm
concerned
that
we're
losing
retail
I,
don't
know
what
to
say
other
than
that's
a
comment.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
reply
John
and
that,
of
course,
we
talked
about
the
change
in
in
parking
requirements.
Also.
B
Sure
I
mean
the
I
guess
my
quick
response
to
that
is
in
theory.
It
is
cheaper
to
be
retail,
because
when
you
are
retail,
you
don't
have
to
pay
the
parking
and
Luffy.
B
So
there
is
an
automatic
incentive
for
spaces
that
are
traditionally
retail
to
stay
retail,
because,
if
you're
going
through
that
change
of
use
process-
and
it
has
not
paid
the
parking
and
Luffy
prior
there's
a
large
upfront
cost
of
doing
that
now
keep
in
mind
any
restaurant
space
can
revert
back
to
a
retail
space
or
vice
versa,
so
that
that
is
allowed.
B
Yes,
it
is
a
big
footprint,
but
there
there
clearly
was
a
market
need
and
just
recognizing
a
lot
of
what
gets
put
in
these
spaces
is
driven
by
market
dynamics.
B
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
what
a
building
owner
is
willing
to
accept
what
kinds
of
improvements
recognizing
there's
different,
rent
structures
for
that
and
there's
different
costs,
and
so
the
markets
reacting
to
this.
Some
of
these
spaces
are
not
ideal.
Retail
Footprints,
because
they're
very
deep
and
those
don't
make
necessarily
good
retail
locations.
B
A
I
I
had
one
quick
question:
John
on
The
Pedestrian
Mall.
Were
there
any
objections
filed.
B
A
But
wait
a
minute:
Mary,
John,
Ed
is
or
David
had
his
hand
up.
So
let
me
call
on
him
and
then
we'll
go
to
you.
I
Oh
yeah,
it's
just
a
quick
logistical
question
which
is
at
this
point
there's
another
reading
of
the
I
guess
tonight
or
tomorrow
night.
Is
it
too
late
for
any
kind
of
public
input
or
any
kind
of
registration
of
and
not
complaint
or
concerned
whatever
you
call
that
to
affect
the
approval
of
it
or
is
it
pretty
much
we're
done
and
it's
approved.
E
Hi
John
thanks
for
doing
that
analysis
with
the
ground
for
retail.
My
question
is
around
the
vacancies
for
for
vacancies.
That
are,
you
know,
very
a
long
period
of
vacancy
extending
you
know
well
into
the
you
know
five
ten
year,
whatever
I'm
wondering
what
is
the
council's
stance
on
on
that
or
or
Economic
Development
stance?
Is
it
that
we
are
going
to
hold
out
for
a
retail
bird
vendor
or
a
restaurant,
or
you
know
at
some
point
we're
like
okay,
we
give
up.
You
know,
let's,
let's
turn
it
into
office
or
whatever
it
is.
E
A
Well
and
I
can
I
can
answer,
I
mean
it's
private
property,
so
the
you
know
unless
the
city
changes
the
zoning
or
changes
the
uses
for
downtown
properties.
There's
the
the
council
has
really
no
say
in
the
matter.
They
might
want
retail
over
a
restaurant
or
a
fast
food
sort
of
thing,
but
it's
not
a
it's.
Not
a
public
decision.
B
B
You
know
the
process
plan
is
going
to
be
opened
up
again,
and
so
that
is
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
types
of
uses
in
downtown.
So
that
is
something
to
be
considered.
The
council
also
has
the
ability
to
implement
policies
to
maybe.
B
B
Potential
Property
Owners
to
do
something,
and
if
you
don't
do
something,
there's
an
implication
for
not
doing
anything,
but
the
chair
is
absolutely
correct:
its
private
property.
So
it's
kind
of
like
me
saying:
I,
don't
like
the
color
of
your
house,
I,
really
want
you
to
change
the
color
of
your
house.
I
have
no
ability
to
have
you
change
the
color
of
your
house.
B
That's
really
your
decision!
So
you
know
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
run
into
as
much
as
people
want
the
city
to
do
something
that
is
private
property.
F
Oh
I
wanted
to
ask:
do
you
have
all
the
contacts
of
all
the
landlords
on
Castro
Street,
let's
say
like
China?
What
is
it?
Is
it
China
Delight,
that's
been
there
vacant
for
almost
two
decades
sitting
there
and
do
we
even
know
if
the
owner
is
still
alive,
the
country
is
he,
you
know.
Is
there
anything
that.
B
The
owner
is
out
of
country,
we
do
have
some
basic
contact
information
for
all
Property
Owners,
the
owner,
the
owner
is
out
of
country.
A
But
yeah,
that's
I,
think
that's,
probably
one
of
the
classic
examples
of
you
know
the
possible
need
for
some
sort
of
vacancy
tax
or
something
like
that,
which
is
a
term
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
hates
to
use.
We
probably
should
find
out
better
term
than
vacancy
tax,
but
anyways
Eric.
K
K
Traditionally
for
retail
businesses,
the
business
owner
is
responsible
for
fronting
the
money
for
the
build
out
the
tenant
improvements,
and
that's
not
the
case
in
office
and
Industrial,
and
so
maybe
the
city
or
our
committee
looks
at
and
I
don't
know.
You
know
this
might
not
be
feasible,
but
maybe
we
look
at
incentivizing
or
putting
putting
the
other
Grant
programs
or
funding
mechanisms
to
help
incentivize
retail
businesses
to
come
in,
because
you
know
it's
challenging
out
there.
Interest
rates
have
gone
way
up.
The
cost
of
capital
is
expensive.
K
You
know
we
talk
about
retail,
we
haven't,
you
know,
Mike
made
the
comment
about
you
know.
Amazon
and
Retail
is
just
it's
been
a
tough
two
decades
in
in
the
brick
and
mortar
space,
and
that's
that's.
That
was
my
comment.
C
Yeah
I
just
want
to
make
a
little
comment:
I
owned
a
purchasing
owned,
a
remodeled
and
expanded,
and
building
on
25th
Avenue
in
San,
Mateo
and
and
then
I,
even
if
business
is
very
Capital
intensive
as
far
as
showrooms,
Etc
et
cetera,
so
yeah
you,
you
were
talking
about
a
major
chunk
of
change
to
remodel
the
interior
and
maybe
spiff
up
the
exterior
of
building.
L
C
I
can
see
that
being
really
an
impediment
to
for
somebody
to
want
to
start
a
small
business,
or
maybe
they
have
a
small
business
and
they
want
to
expand
into
Mountain
View.
C
As
Eric
says,
capital
is
expensive,
so
I
would
encourage
them.
I,
don't
know
whether
we
can
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council
as
a
mere
committee,
or
if
this
is
something
that
can
be
brought
to
something
else,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
have
any
of
the
Redevelopment,
not
Redevelopment,
but
the
economic
incentives
from
the
federal
government.
If
that
could
be
considered
to
be
a
a
place
where
that
could
be
worked
out.
A
I
think
I'm
hearing
some
staff
Direction
that
perhaps
John
to
add
to
the
sort
of
list
of
things
is
a
discussion
of
possible
economic
incentives,
including,
but
not
limited
to
like
retail
Grant
programs.
A
Do
I
see
I,
see
a
few
nodding
heads.
Is
that
something
that
the
committee
thinks
would
be
good
for
the
agenda
upcoming
agendas,
not
seeing
any
violent
waving
of
the
hand
so
we'll
put
that
on
the
list.
Marina
I.
F
Just
wanted
to
mention
that
tomorrow
we
have
at
the
Monte
Carlo
we
have
a
meeting
with
the
residents
and
businesses
business
owners
so
that
there's
going
to
be,
like
you
know,
like
a
q,
a
kind
of
a
setup
where
local
residents
can
kind
of
meet
and
greet
with
the
owners.
The
owners
can
represent
their
business,
introduce
themselves
for
a
few
minutes
and
just
kind
of
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
some
food
and
so
spread.
The
word
so
I
can
say
right.
A
So
I
will
be
there,
hopefully
others
will
come
and
and
do
spread.
The
word
there's.
L
I'm
just
going
to
add
to
that
I'm
gonna
do
the
events
that
is
going
to
be
happening,
but
also,
interestingly,
of
the
retailers
who
are
coming
it
is
often
is
the
retailers
I'm.
Sorry
the
merchants
who
are
coming.
It
is
retailers
and
services
who
actually
responded
the
most
to
be
talking
and
so
do
spread.
The
word
we
want
as
much
as
the
community
as
possible,
but
what's
interesting
with
that
is
when
saying
tell
the
community
your
story,
let
them
know
you're
here.
Let
them
know
how
to
support
you.
L
C
Yeah,
so
just
one
more
comment:
if
you
remember
when
the
community
outreach
was
conducted
by
the
city
about
whether
we
want
Downtown
Mountain
View
to
look
like-
and
there
was
a
really
a
strong
desire
to
have
viable
retail
and
I
think
we
need
to
not
lose
sight
of
that.
But
the
community
does
want
retail
here
in
downtown
for
the
communications
and
direct
meetings.
L
Yes,
I
was
going
to
Echo
exactly
what
you
said,
which
is
Juan
and
also
other
retailers
downtown.
It's
the
same
thing
where
we
hear
you
know
that
people
say
they
want,
but
they
ask
well,
why
aren't
they
coming
in
and
they
show
you
know,
statistics
on
all
the
online
places
that
all
of
Northern
California
does
and
they
zero
in
on
Mountain,
View
and
they're,
like
we
do
three
times
more
than
anywhere
else
and
I,
don't
know
where
they're
getting
that.
L
A
You
know
Pamela
something
with
you
or
we
don't
need
to.
We
don't
need
to
keep
the
debate
going.
A
C
Not
make
my
comment,
then.
A
John
anything
else
on
6.2
before
we
go
back
I'm
going
to
open
that
to
the
public.
But
is
there
any
member
of
the
public
that
wanted
to
address
the
Castro
Street
update.
H
Yeah
I
apologies,
I,
no
I
cut
off
there
earlier
today,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
where
exactly
I
broke.
Everyone
just
throws
around
me
and
I
kept
talking
and
didn't
realize,
along
with
listening.
J
A
A
H
It,
okay,
so
yeah,
so
that
there
is
a
proposed
facade
modification
on
those
on
that
building
there
and
then
I
also
want
to
highlight
and
I
don't
know
if
this
highlighted
when
I
was
gone,
but
our
planning
manager,
Eric,
is
working
or
I
should
say,
Finnish
staff
report
that
will
be
going
tomorrow
to
the
environmental
Planning
Commission
and
that
is
pertaining
to
setting
a
cap
on
office
space
in
the
downtown
in
general
and
that
would,
if
approved
or
recommended
for
approval
by
Planning
Commission.
H
I
have
not
read
the
staff
report
completely,
but
this
is
in
response
to
the
state
bill
that
won't
be
in
effect,
starting
in
January,
which
substantially
limits
parking
requirements
to
have,
or,
as
you
say,
no
minimum
parking
requirements
or
state
law,
and
particularly
that
bill
is
ab2097,
and
this
will
give
enough
time
to
the
city
to
evaluate
the
job
housing
imbalance,
how
it
may
possibly
impact
small
businesses
in
downtown.
And
again.
This
is
going
to
funding
commission
tomorrow
and
depending
on
their
recommendation,
that
will
be
taken
to
city
council
for
final
election,
foreign.
H
That's
the
agenda
is
posted,
so
this
the
report
is
up.
If
anyone
wants
to
go
on
online,
all.
C
John
last
month
said
that
the
hotel
project
Robert
Greene,
if
they
didn't
get
their
permit
extension
done
or
get
something
filed
with
the
city
that
they
might
have
to
start
all
over
again.
What's
the
update
on
that?
That's
on
the
Hope
Street
yeah.
That's.
B
Not
no
other
update
other
than
their
their
planning.
An
entitlement
does
expire
in
November
27th.
H
B
They
don't
secure
their
building
entitlement,
they
will
need
to
refile
for
a
planning
entitlement
to
move
forward
with
their
project.
H
And
I
will
add
on
to
that
Tom
that
this
new
proposed
cap
on
office
space
would
not
impact
projects
that
are
entitled.
So
this
action
that
may
be,
or
the
recommendation
that
would
be
taken
by
Planning
Commission
tomorrow
to
city
council,
would
have
directly
impact
that
project.
Obviously
they
would
have
to
resubmit
depending
on
when
they
resubmit,
if
they
don't
get
that
permit,
they
may
get
caught
up
in
the
downtown
person
size
plan
Phase
One
update,
which
is
going
to
require
that
they
do
a
few
tweaks
to
to
the
design
of
the.
A
Book
all
right,
Jamil
yeah.
J
H
J
Well,
you
used
to
be
sweet,
honey,
no.
H
I
I
can
definitely
provide
an
update
to
John
and
he
can
send
it
out
to
everyone
or
think
that'll
be
quicker
than
waiting
until
next
month
to
to
keep
doing
something.
Thank.
A
You,
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
item
6.3,
which
is
the
ab361
resolution
for
remote
meetings.
I
think
this
is
what
we've
been
doing
every
month
just
to
keep
this
going.
I
think
I
heard
from
the
city
manager
that
in
February
the
city
is
rescinding
the
emergency
declaration,
I'm,
not
certain
how
that
affects
whether
we
can
continue
to
do
this.
My
guess
is
probably
not,
but
I
suspect
we'd
probably
want
to
keep
meeting
virtually
as
long
as
we
can.
B
Well,
and
just
to
share
with
the
committee
it.
What
what
we're
kind
of
hearing
is,
that
Council
would
be
going
back
in
person
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
is
kind
of
what
the
thinking
is.
So
if
that
action
might
happen
a
little
bit
earlier
than
what
the
governor
taking
action
on
the
emergency
declaration,
because
everything's
kind
of
teared
off
the
state
of
California
emergency
declaration
that
tears
off
the
County's
emergency
declaration
to
us.
A
Right
Pamela.
C
B
I
think
council
is
considering.
Hybrid
meetings
is
what
that
entails,
not
to
be
meeting
virtually
exclusively
virtually
through
2023.
A
Think
what
I
would
say
is
what's
relevant
is
how
it
impacts
our
committee,
not
what's
going
on
with
the
city,
council
and
stuff
like
that,
so
I
think
we
we
don't
need
a
briefing
on
the
entire
virtual
organization,
just
whether
we
can
continue
to
meet
virtually
or
need
to
start
getting
back
together
in
person
which
then
brings
up
something
later
in
the
agenda.
That
being
said,
we
do
if
we
want
to
continue
to
meet
virtually
just
irrespective
of
what
the
council
does
during
the
emergency.
A
B
A
Then
is
there
a
motion
to
adopt
the
ab361
resolution
moved
by
Marianne?
Is
there
a
second
Ed
by
Pamela
John?
You
want
to
call
the
roll.
B
Sure
let
me
flip
back
to
the
right
page
here.
Sorry,
Committee,
Member
Cormier
approved
Gupta.
B
B
B
Yen
approved
Vice,
chair
Baird,
hi
and
chair
Casper,
black
all.
A
Right
all
right
sounds
like
that
motion
passes
and
then
moving
on
item
6.4,
2022,
City,
sponsored
events
and
I
think
this
is
Maureen.
M
First,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
excellent,
awesome,
well
we're
still
recovering
over
here
from
Monster
Bash
this
weekend,
which
was
very
busy
in
ring
store,
Park,
but
we're
already
moving
on
in
four
weeks
we
have
our
tree
lighting,
downtown
and
so
that'll
be
on
Monday,
December,
5th,
5
30
start
time,
all
the
traditional
elements
that
the
community
knows
and
loves,
but
then
some
tweaks
this
year,
some
of
them
are
still
in
the
planning
process,
so
I'm
not
going
to
share
them
yet
just
in
case
they
don't
go
through,
but
one
big
thing
is:
we
are
actually
going
to
move
the
stage
onto
Castro
Street,
so
right
in
front
of
the
Optometry
business,
Castro
and
mercy,
so
something
pretty
exciting.
M
This,
hopefully,
will
give
us
a
bigger
space
to
to
witness
the
the
tree
lighting
and
and
hopefully
give
everybody
a
little
bit
more
room
than
on
the
Plaza,
but,
like
I
said
all
the
traditional
elements
of
the
lighting
of
the
tree.
This
visit
from
Santa
and
then
the
community
performances
and
then
something
we
started
last
year
was
the
holidays
around
the
world.
We
are
intending
to
bring
back
the
holidays
around
the
world
as
an
element
tons
of
crafts,
the
train
and,
like
I,
said,
there's
a
couple
other
things.
M
We've
got
up
our
sleeves
that
we're
planning
so
hopefully
it'll
be
a
nice
surprise
to
all.
A
M
Completely
completely
and
that's
the
same
idea
so
still
closing
off
Caster
Street
we've
got
our
most
of
businesses
going
out
soon,
hopefully
this
week
or
next
so
still
from
California
to
Church,
but
then
allowing
for
the
Kaiser
drive-through
and
yeah.
It's
gonna
be
a
party
for
sure
and
I'll
I
can
take
questions
in
between.
If
that's,
okay
with
the
chair,
Cara.
L
Yeah
I
was
just
gonna
say
in
conjunction
with
that,
with
the
downtown
some
downtown
businesses
are
planning
to
extend
hours
or
have
things
happening
as
well
to
invite
Community
to
come
down
and
enjoy
our
businesses
after
the
tree
lighting.
M
There's
come
to
tree
lighting
is
really
to
kind
of
promote
residents
to
go
downtown,
enjoy
a
meal
with
their
family
either
before
or
after
the
tree
living
ceremony.
A
You
know
Maureen
before
you
go
on
Kira.
You
know
one
thing
you
might
if
the
DBA
is
sort
of
like
a
pre-lighting
thing
for
some
of
the
restaurants
get
people
out
there
early
rather
than
late.
You
know
a
lot
of
restaurants
will
do
early
bird
sorts
of
specials,
and
that
might
be
a
good
evening
if
you
know
get
in
there
early
with
the
kids,
so
that
you
know
eight
o'clock,
everybody's,
not
saying.
Oh,
we
got
to
get
the
kids
home
to
bed
now
so.
L
M
No,
no!
No!
This
is
the
recreation
way
you
know
so
I'll
mention
the
other
thing
we
have
coming
downtown.
That
I
think
this
committee
will
be
very
excited
about,
is
the
return
of
Arbor
Day.
So
we
are
looking
at
that
on
March
11th
in
Pioneer
Park.
We
are
going
to
do
Arbor
Day
a
little
differently.
M
That's
just
the
way
things
are
now
since
we
we
have
the
opportunity
to
think
fresh,
but
we'll
still
have
our
tree
demonstration
and
tree
walks
and
Proclamation
from
the
mayor,
but
we're
looking
into
a
tree
Guardian
program
inviting
booths,
but
no
information.
As
in
like
your
traditional
table
in
the
front
and
brochures,
if
you're
coming
to
present
information,
you
better
have
an
interactive
element
to
it
and
we're
just
really
trying
to
get
more
engaging
activities.
F
Just
quickly
is
there
any
plans
on
decorating
Castro
for
the
holidays.
I
went
to
for
the
DBA
we
went
down
from
you
know,
did
a
little
spread.
The
word
kind
of
on
on
with
the
businesses,
and
actually
a
few
of
them
asked
me-
are
am
I
going
to.
F
Are
we
going
to
they
thought?
I
was
a
city
representative,
but
I
was
with
the
DBA?
Are
we
going
to
actually
do
some
holiday
festive
Decor
on
Castro
Street
to
bring
more
traffic
so
I'm,
not
sure
I
said
I
mean
if,
if
they're
willing
to
do
it
on
their
budget,
they
can
do
it,
but
I
don't
know
if
the
city
has
any
plans
on
doing
that.
So
do
you
have
any.
M
I
I
know
we
we
plan
to
do
what
has
been
our
past
practice
in
the
medians
of
the
300,
no
400
and
500
block
our
Parks
crew.
Has
these
like
light
up
penguins
and
things
like
that
so
really
kind
of
a
nighttime
element.
That'll
still
continue
on
those
two
blocks
and
then
a
couple
years
ago
we
bought
large
wreaths
that
we
put
on
those
archways
throughout
downtown
those
alley.
Archways.
H
M
Believe
we're
still
planning
quite
a
few
of
them
were
stolen.
So
and
that's
kind
of
been
our
thing
is
that
things
that
we've
been
leaving
up
have
been
going
missing
and
we
don't
always
have
the
budget
to
replace
it.
So
we
tend
to
focus
all
of
our
efforts
on
the
tree
lighting
celebration
in
terms
of
like
larger
Decor,
but
then
we
do
take
it
away
just
so,
we
have
it
for
us
for
a
while.
M
A
A
B
A
Yeah,
okay,
Marina
your
hands
still
up,
is
it
still
up
or
and
Pamela
yeah.
C
M
The
only
ones
we've
had
are
the
ones
for
MV,
CPA
and
I
think
there's
a
conversation
to
get
those
replaced,
but
it
is
part
of
a
larger
we.
We
are
over.
The
10
000
Market
is
a
bid
process
so
that
it's
a
it's
a
possibly
but
not
right.
Now,.
J
M
Else,
I'll
just
give
out
a
couple
things:
they're,
not
necessarily
downtown.
Well,
some
of
them
are
so
we'll
have
our
summer
camp
Fair,
that's
coming
back
in
February
that'll
be
at
the
community
center.
We
also
have
our
Senior
Resource
Fair,
coming
back
in
May
at
the
senior
center
and
then
just
as
we're
planning
for
this
summer,
The
Return
of
kids
stock.
M
That's
on
the
third
Saturday
of
the
month,
starting
in
May,
May,
June
and
July
concerts
on
the
Plaza,
we're
expecting
to
bring
back
every
Friday
June
through
September,
really
energetic,
not
your
typical
singer-songwriter,
but
more
energetic
musical
acts
with
the
larger
a
band
on
the
first
Friday,
and
then
we
have
our
summer
outdoor
movie
night
series
that
will
return.
M
We
do
have
one
at
Eagle
Park
and
then
National
Night
Out
returning
potentially
downtown
again,
and
we
need
to
confirm
that
with
a
PD
and
fire,
but
we've
got
we've
got
a
lot
of
really
exciting
things
and
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
community
organizations
that
are
going
to
be
reserving
the
plaza
for
different
cultural
events.
M
I
think
our
and
I
can't
really
speak
for
them,
but
our
multi
Multicultural
engagement
program
is
working,
I
believe
on
a
Chinese,
New
Year
celebration,
either
in
23
or
24..
So
hopefully
I
think
that's
all
still
in
the
talks.
But
that's
the
plan
great.
M
Yeah,
it's
a
bi-annual
okay,
so
so
it
is
22
and
then
it's
scheduled
right
now
for
2024.
Unless
the
budget
or
desire
changes,
because.
C
That
was
enough.
That
was
a
nice
event
and
then
you
said
the
volunteer
Fair.
Do
you
have
a
date
on
that
yeah.
M
M
M
A
M
I
believe
so
I
believe
so
so
we're
still
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
continue
the
spirit
of
a
spring
celebration.
So
this
last
year
we
did
Spring
Park
pop-ups,
where
we
brought
a
bubble,
Smith
and
games
to
different
Parks
throughout
the
city,
really
bringing
kind
of
that
spring
element
to
residents.
M
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
do
that
again
this
year,
but
we're
we're
trying
to
think
of
ways
to
still
celebrate
spring
without
yes,
that
parade.
We
can't
do
that
parade
element
any
longer.
L
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
with
the
Multicultural
and
other
events
are
happening,
downtown
one
of
the
things
that
the
DBA
has
been
doing
with
the
city
is
coupons
that
can
be
given
out
to
participants
that
come
and
they've
been
fairly
successful,
and
now
we
also
do
other
DBA
events,
for
instance
on
Halloween.
We
also
gave
that
out.
You
know
that
wasn't
with
the
city,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because
that
partnership
is
really
working
and
but
also
the
coupons
are
really
working.
So
just
letting
the
committee
know
that
as
well,
yeah.
A
Right,
we'll
close
public
input
Maria
last
question:
it
looks
like
I.
L
We
would
like
help
spreading
the
word.
Sales
are
not
quite
as
high
as
they
were
for
the
last
one.
It
is
going
well,
but
it
is
not.
You
know.
Last
time
we
were
sold
out.
You
know
weeks
before
the
event
this
week.
This
time
we
are
not
sold
out
quite
yet,
so
we
would
like
help
spreading
the
word.
If
you
know
people
that
want
to
come
down.
A
All
right:
hey
thanks,
Maureen
welcome
Mr
Graham.
If
you
want
we're
going
to
now
move
on
to
new
business,
starting
with
7.1
in
the
Public
Public
Safety
in
Downtown,
Mountain
View,
and
we
have
the
mvpd
here
with
us.
Matthew.
G
Wanted
to
go
over
a
few
things
of
what
we've
been
seeing
in
the
downtown
area,
one
of
the
main
concerns
that
came
out
that
was
brought
to
us.
Really.
G
It's
been
a
few
years
where
we've
seen
an
uptick
of
Auto
burglaries
in
the
downtown
area,
with
a
collaborative
effort
of
volunteers
as
well
as
the
police
department
and
chamber,
there
was
a
downtown
ambassador
program
that
was
put
together
also
during
that
time
there
was
an
increase
in
working
on
the
lighting,
increasing
the
lighting
and
some
of
the
Landscaping
to
make
it
a
little
bit
harder
for
the
criminal
activity
to
occur
really
by
someone
hiding
when
they're
committing
the
activity
in
the
ambassador
program
really
was
not
so
much
traditional
enforcement,
but
a
lot
of
education
and
a
lot
of
volunteers
that
were
in
downtown
and
just
really
highly
visible.
G
When
we
looked
at
it
a
little
bit
further,
we
also
saw
just
a
decrease
in
overall
crime
in
the
downtown
area,
so
the
approach
was
highly
effective,
based
on
that,
what
we
are
going
to
be
doing
is
also
into
the
going
into
the
holiday
season,
is
Staffing
officers
and
csos,
and
really
any
volunteers
too
in
the
program
going
forward
in
the
holiday
season,
because
it
was
so
successful.
G
For
assisting
in
that
as
well
and
really
a
great
approach
to
a
collaborative
effort
of
I'm,
not
just
policing,
but
also
showing
that
we're
gonna
work
work
together,
especially
in
the
downtown
area
when
there
are
when
this
crime
is
occurring.
G
One
other
topic
that
I
want
to
go
over
just
a
little
bit
of
what
we
saw
in
the
downtown
area.
And
some
of
the
questions
that
have
came
to
me
was
some
of
the
unhoused
that
are
in
the
downtown
area
as
well.
G
And-
and
we
have
taken
a
similar
approach
on
on
that
in
the
downtown
area
or
some
of
the
unhoused.
We
have
a
community
service,
Outreach
officer,
officer
McPherson,
who
is
amazing,
with
getting
Outreach
and
in
working
with
individuals,
whether
or
not
it's
substance
or
housing,
and
then
so.
Some
of
those
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
time.
But
we
have
a
number
of
successful
stories
of
individuals
who
were
primarily
in
the
downtown
area
who
have
since
been
given
resources
and
housing
and
so
officer.
G
Mcpherson
works
also
with
our
behavioral
Service
Unit,
which
has
a
clinician
and
then
other
officers
who
are
trained
in
on
our
crisis,
negotiation
team.
So
identifying
individuals
who
might
be
in
the
downtown
area
who
need
whether
it's
substance,
abuse
or
mental
health
and
trying
to
get
them
the
services
as
well
all
as
housing.
G
If
we
can
continue
to
start
to
work
together
and
on
those
lines,
what
I
always
ask
is,
is
let's
just
let
if
you
see
something
if
there's
something
out
of
the
ordinary
or
a
possibility
of
criminal
activity
just
to
let
us
know,
because
if
we
don't
know
about
it,
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
do
anything.
But
if
we
do
know
that
there
is,
you
know
criminal
activity
or
even
just
an
individual
who
might
need
a
little
bit
of
extra
help.
G
F
A
Quick
question:
we
got
a
report
or
I
got
a
report
from
somebody
and
one
it's
a
little
ironic,
because
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
busking
and
music
in
downtown
at
some
point
in
the
future,
but
somebody
reported
that
there
was
a
street
musician
playing
on
one
of
the
corners,
probably
somewhere
within
The
Pedestrian
Mall,
but
the
person
also
appeared
to
possibly
be
homeless,
had
a
whole
bunch
of
trash
with
him.
Was
you
know
it
it?
So
it
wasn't
sort
of
the
type
of
music
that
people
want
to
see
on
the
street.
A
G
He
has
a
a
police
response
to
what
we
would
typically
do
is
have
our
community
outreach
officer,
contact
them
and
look
at
what
what's
occurring
and
offer
resources
and
that'd
be.
Our
first
approach
is
to
offer
resources
and
really
to
give
information
of
the
resources
that
we
have.
G
We
have
a
lot
of
people
that
come
in
town
that
are
used
to
a
different
type
of
approach,
so
when
they
do
see
that
there
are
some
resources
that
that
we're
going
to
be
there-
and
we
also
aren't
just
going
to
ignore
that
we're
out
there-
sometimes
just
to
say
hello
and
get
to
know
them
a
little
bit
and
then
kind
of
find
out
what
the
best
approach
is.
Based
on
that
initial
conversation,.
G
Or
a
non-emergency
line
they
can
contact
us
then
go
online
and
report
that
as
well.
So
if
you
go
online
and
just
do
a
report
that
comes
out
of
the
non-houser
or
any
anything
along
those
lines,
it'll
go
directly
to
our
unit.
Our
neighborhood
and
events,
Services
Unit
who's
primarily
handles
that.
So
that's
probably
the
best
way
is
to
report
that
online
to
us
and
it
goes
to
the
appropriate
individual.
D
Yeah
just
to
follow
up
on
that,
but
if
I'm
walking,
downtown
Mountain
View
and
seeing
something
that's
kind
of
not
very
untasteful
by
the
time,
I
go
online
and
you
know
it
might
be
over
with
if
I
wanted
it
addressed
like
right
away.
G
D
Sorry,
can
you
repeat
that
question
one
more
time?
Is
there
something
going
on
that
really
shouldn't
be
stopped
immediately,
not
really
criminal,
but
maybe
kind
of
defecating,
which
I've
seen
on
weekends
downtown
and
on
Castro
Street,
who
do
I
contact.
G
It
would
be
the
police
department,
we
can
send
it
to
our
non-emergency
line
and
I'll
put
that
on
there
on
the
chat
as
well.
G
No
I'll
give
the
it's
a
non-emergency
line
that
we'll
have
for
the
police
department
and
I'll
put
that
on
the
chat
here.
So
you
can
have
that.
D
And
also
does
Mountain
View,
I
guess
I
should
know
this.
Do
we
have
a
loitering
code
not
loitering
this
this
weekend,
I
was
in
Santa
Cruz
and
at
every
major
stop
sign.
There
was
a
sign
said
no
Lottery
and
there
were
no
people
at
the
lights
begging.
So
I
was
wondering
if
Mountain
View
had
such
an
ordinance.
D
G
Yeah
so,
and
pretty
much
for
the
for
the
most
part
for
us
legally,
if
they're
not
impeding
so
for
somebody
going
in
and
out
of
the
business,
if
they're
not
obstructing,
to
be
able
to
do
the
day-to-day.
There
isn't
a
lot
that
we
can
do
for
enforcement.
G
A
J
Yeah
just
to
segue
what
you
were
saying:
Mike
Matthew
thanks
for
the
report.
My
question
was
that
on
Villa
Street
disabled
is
working
now
and
we
put
the
size
with
the
guard,
but
some
people
are
still
crossing
in
I
saw
a
mere
Miss
accident,
I
mean
with
The
Pedestrian.
Almost
the
other
day.
Do
you
have
any
stats
on
it?
If
it's
working
or
do
we
need
anything
else?
To
kind
of
tell
I
mean
people
that
is
working
now.
B
So
Jamil
we've
been
out,
so
this
is
a
combination,
our
Public
Works
Transportation
team,
MPD
PDC
on
the
enforcement
side,
but
we
have
been
communicating
to
the
public.
We've
also
been
pushing
out
information
to
the
business
Community
and
we're
also
posting
signs
at
the
intersection.
You
know.
B
Unfortunately,
people
have
gotten
very
used
to
walking
out
to
the
street,
so
there
there's
not
only
the
obligation
that
drivers
to
be
more
cognizant,
but
people
also
need
to
look
up
or
you
know
when
they
get
to
a
corner,
stop
pause,
assess
it
and
is
the
signal
working,
but
we
have
been
putting
signage
up,
and
so
this
has
been
a
phased
approach.
Initially
we
were
going
to
put
all
the
lights
back
on
at
the
same
time,
and
after
that
first
day
with
Dana
Street,
we
realized.
We
can't
do
that.
B
There's
a
learned.
Behavior,
that's
happen
over
time,
so
we're
going
through
a
phasing
approach,
and
so
there
are
public
Traffic
Engineers
out
there,
monitoring
it
and
similar
to
Dana.
There
were
some
near-misses
people
got
really
used
to
just
seeing
a
red
light,
stop
and
go
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
an
education.
That's
going
on
the
light
just
got
turned
on
at
the
second
intersection
today
so
and
we'll
we'll
tackle
the
next
intersection
after
we
get
through
kind
of
the
assessment
of
this
next
intersection.
B
But
the
long-term
goal
is
to
have
it
be
a
sick,
somewhat
of
a
signalized
intersection
and
once
again
the
long
long
term
goal
is
in
The
Pedestrian
wall
sections
is
people
would
actually
be
Crossing
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
not
on
the
corners,
but
that's
many
years
out,
but
we'd
actually
narrowed
the
intersection.
So
it's
really
tight
for
cars
and
then
people
would
cross
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection.
A
John,
all
right,
not
seeing
any
more
questions
open
this
up
to
her
public
comment.
John
any
raised
hands
out
there,
all
right,
we'll
close
public
comment
and
bring
it
back
and
any
anything
else
before
we
let
you
go
Matthew
yeah.
J
Mike
I
wanted
to
add
one
thing:
you
know
that
that
the
downtown
ambassador
program,
you
know
Pamela
and
we're
doing
it-
is
it's
a
lot
of
fun.
I
I
recommend
for
other
people,
other
Community
member.
You
know
it
is
it's.
A
Right
all
right:
okay,
we've
got
some
people
that
need
to
Mosey
on
so
we'll
see
if
we
can't
move
on.
So
we
will
now
move
on
to
item
7.2,
which
is
the
meeting
schedule
for
2023
and
John.
Why
don't
you
start
with
that?
One.
B
Sure
so
per
the
K2
policy.
The
the
downtown
committee
needs
to
adopt
a
meeting
schedule,
so
this
being
the
first
year
scheduling
for
next
year
with
I,
just
kind
of
took,
what's
been
done
in
the
past
and
figured
out
the
months
that
the
committee
historically
has
not
met
and
then
developed
the
schedule
based
upon
the
first
Tuesday
of
the
month
at
10
A.M.
B
So
what
you
have
on
the
agenda
packet
is
the
following
dates:
January,
so
there
are
no
meetings
for
January,
July
and
August,
mainly
January,
because
of
the
furlough
that
goes
on
at
the
end
of
December,
creates
problems
given
the
timing
of
this
committee
and
then
to
give
you
a
break
during
the
summer
July
and
August.
So
the
meeting
dates
would
be
February,
7th,
March,
7th,
April,
4th
May,
2nd
June,
6th,
September,
5th,
October,
3rd
November,
7th
and
December
5th,
and
this
would
require
action
by
the
committee
to
adopt
this.
A
A
Have
to
get
up
and
drive
into
town
for
an
in-person
meeting.
10
is
really
inconvenient
for
business
owners
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
so
I
think
we
probably
need
to
go
with
the
assumption
that
we'll
be
going
back
to
in-person
meetings.
I,
don't
know
that
state
law
is
going
to
allow
us
to
continue
to
meet
as
a
virtual
committee,
and
so
the
real
question
is
you
know
not
so
much
the
dates
but
the
time,
and
we
need
to
put
that
into
whatever
it
is
that
we
do
now.
A
It
is
a
rather
insignificant
Committee
in
terms
of
you
know,
public
engagement
and
everything
like
that,
and
are
there
any
provisions
in
state
law
that
will
allow
us
to
continue
to
meet
virtually
irregard,
irrespective
of
the
covet
emergency,
and
so
that
that
might
be
going
back
to
the
city
attorney
or
finding
out
and
seeing?
If
there's
anything,
we
could
do
because
otherwise
I
think
we
have
to
go
back
to
early
early
morning
meeting
time.
B
So
I,
like
the
suggestion
of
the
chairs
comment,
I
would
prefer
to
have
the
committee
take
action
on
establishing
the
dates
and
time
at
this
point
in
time,
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
with
the
clerk
and
bring
this
back
at
the
next
committee.
B
If
we
need
to
amend
or
append
the
action
taken,
but
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
it
memorialized
and
if
there
is
no
action
required
based
upon
the
feedback,
we
can
keep
it
as
is,
but
if
needing
to
append
it
or
amend
it
at
the
next
meeting,
that
will
allow
me
the
time
to
sufficiently
vet
it
with
a
attorney
at
City.
Clerks.
A
All
right
thoughts
comments,
her
name
from
anybody.
E
It's
actually
way
easier
for
me
as
because
you
know
kids
have
drop
off
time.
Most
kids
who
go
to
school
drop-offs
between
you
know,
7
45,
to
about
8,
15
I,
think
some
of
the
schools
don't
even
start
till
8
30.,
so
I
don't
know
I'm.
Just
given
the
makeup
of
the
Community
Committee
Now
versus
before.
If
10
AM
is
actually
a
better
time
versus
before
and
also
I
know
it's
the
middle
of
the
day.
E
But
although,
like
it's
less
traffic,
if
we
have
to
meet
in
person
10
significantly,
you
know
less
trafficky
than
eight,
except
just
some
something
to
consider
but
I'm
happy
to
adopt
all
the
dates
for
2023.
A
I
J
A
I
J
A
A
Okay,
that's
the
only
only
real
legal
option.
I
Okay,
I
mean
I
can
work
it
out
with
so
I'm
a
teacher,
and
so
I
can
work
it
out
with
my
school
to
be
available
for
some
of
these
things
generally
earlier
is
better
but,
like
literally
I,
I
have
to
call
a
sub
to
cover
my
class
during
the
meeting,
so
just
a
different
perspective,
but
I
can
I
can
figure
out
how
to
make
it
work.
F
I
was
gonna
second
Mary
I,
also
like
the
10
o'clock
or
in
the
evening
when
everybody's
back
home
from
work.
You
know
like
going
crazy,
but
you
know
like
five
six
o'clock.
P.M
also
would
work
for
me
personally.
I
do
like
the
10
o'clock.
F
There
is
a
lot
of
I
think
bustle
happening
early
in
the
morning,
so
I
don't
think
we
would
even
have
a
lot
of
public
engagement,
not
that
we
do
as
is,
but
you
know
even
in
case
somebody
wants
to
join
us
I
think
they
would
be
their
better
later
at
night
or
like
right
now.
What
we're
doing
you
know
so.
A
And
I
know:
Eric
was
probably
the
one
that
was
not
anywhere
in
Mountain,
View,
I,
think
he's
down
from
more
like
Los,
Gatos
or
something
and
wasn't
coming
into
Mountain
View,
so
it
might
have
effect,
have
affected
him,
the
most
and
but
I
think
he's
resigning
from
the
humidity.
So,
with
all
of
that
said
well,
first,
let's
go
to
the
public.
B
Sorry,
you
may
want
to
you,
may
want
to
go
camera
off
and
see
if
that
helps
with
some
of
the
bandwidth.
E
I
was
going
to
say
when
we
had
at
the
meeting
at
8
A.M
like
nobody
ever
came
I'm,
not
not.
Nobody
like,
we
would
get
one
guest
to
do
that
and
then
so.
Actually,
since
the
meeting
has
moved
to
10
I've
been
surprised
finally
surprised
at
the
level
of
public
engagement,
even
though
it
still
seems
low.
It's
actually
up
from
previously.
A
So
let's
see
John
did
did.
Is
there
any
public.
B
There
is
public
if
you
like
comment
on
this
item,
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
or
star
six.
A
Will
close
public
comment
and
bring
it
back
and
John
would
like
a
motion?
So
if
somebody
now
would
be
a
good
time
to
make
a
motion
about
next
year's
schedule,
which
is
currently
proposed
as
it
is
in
the
staff
report
with
three
three
months
with
no
meeting
and
then
10
10
a.m,
like
we've,
been
doing
it
probably
in
person,
but
to
be
determined
Pamela.
C
So
moved
here
do
I
have
to
read
the
whole
thing
John.
It's.
C
To
read
it
all
right,
so
I
propose
that
we
follow
the
recommendation
in
7.2.
M
A
B
Or
Committee
Member
Cormier.
D
D
B
J
A
C
Two,
this
may
not
be
something
that
we
can
get
a
response
on
from
John.
We
have
a
member
who
hasn't
attended
a
meeting
in
what
maybe
missed
four
or
five
six
meetings
in
a
row.
So
what
happens
to
a
Committee
Member
who
just
not
make
meetings.
B
Council
is
informed
of
that
and
it
becomes
a
basically
a
voluntary
resignation.
We
are
in
contact
with
Mr
Gupta
about
this,
and
it
looks
like
it
will
be.
A
voluntary
resignation
there's
some
time
conflicts
with
this
meeting
time
now
so,
and
so
hope
is
to
get
a
new
appointment
as
some
of
the
members
are
up
for
reappointment.
So
as
part
of
that
process
reappointed
for
a
new
new
Committee
Member.
C
And
when
are
the
interviews,
can
you
disclose
that.
C
Yeah,
that's
what
I
thought
I
hadn't
heard
it
was
something
else:
okay,
all
right
and
then,
as
far
as
a
report,
the
Mountain
View
historical
Association
will
be
conducting
a
walking
tour
on
Sunday
November
27th
at
2
pm
and
meet
in
front
of
the
train.
Station
and
it'll
be
about
an
hour
and
a
half
two
hours,
long
and
I'll
be
conducting
that
and
we
will
not
have
a
tour
in
December.
A
All
right,
Kara.
L
Just
on
reports,
we
do
some
events
coming
up
tomorrow,
as
we've
discussed
is
going
to
be
the
meet
the
business
owners
event
next
week
on,
the
9th
is
going
to
be
the
taste
of
Mountain
View
stay
tuned
for
our
holiday
activities,
but
we
are
going
to
be
having
some
kind
of
voluntary
promotion
that
will
go
with
the
tree
lighting.
We
are
tentatively
looking
at
some
kind
of
santa-thon,
so
we'll
let
you
know
in
December
how
that
happens
with
having
Santa's
come
to
Mountain
View
and
after
the
just
before
and
after
the
holidays.
A
All
right,
seeing
nothing
else,
I
think
that's
it.
So
we
will
stand
adjourned
until
December
and
hopefully
we'll
see
a
bunch
of
you
tomorrow.
Night
see
more
of
you
on
at
the
taste
of
Mountain
View
and
it's
a
little
early
for
Happy
Thanksgiving,
but
hope
you
all
have
a
Happy
Thanksgiving
yeah.