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From YouTube: December 13, 2022 Joint Meeting of Mountain View City Council and Shoreline Regional Park Community
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Live teleconference of the Joint Meeting of Mountain View City Council and Shoreline Regional Park Community of December 13, 2022
A
Good
evening,
everyone
thank
you
for
joining
us
for
our
closed
session
I'm,
going
to
read
the
usual
announcement
as
required.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
California
government
code,
section
54953e,
as
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
city.clerk
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution.
B
A
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noted
on
the
meeting
agenda,
members
of
the
public
May
provide
oral
public
comments
during
the
public
comment
period
by
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Any
emails
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by
4
30
pm
today
were
received
directly
by
the
city
council.
City
attorney
log
will
make
the
closed
session
announcement
and
then
the
city
council
welcomes
public
comment
on
the
items
listed.
Foreclosed
sessions.
C
Good
evening
this
is
City
Attorney
Jennifer
Logue
item
2.1.
On
the
closed
session,
closed
session
agenda
was
going
to
be
a
conference
with
legal
counsel
regarding
one
item
of
anticipated
litigation
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
549-56.9,
however,
item
2.1
has
been
pulled
from
the
agenda
and
will
not
be
heard
in
closed
session
this
evening.
A
A
Seen
no
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak,
the
council
will
now
recess
to
closed
session
and
return
to
this
webinar
at
6
30
PM.
For
the
regular
session
see
you
then.
D
D
A
Sorry
about
that
is
this
any
better?
Okay,
thank
you.
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read
the
usual
announcement
as
required.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
California
government
code,
section
54953e,
as
authorized
by
resolution
of
the
city
council.
Please
contact
city.clerk
at
mountainview.gov
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
applicable
resolution.
A
All
members
of
the
city
council
are
participating
in
this
video
in
this
meeting
by
video
conference
with
no
physical
meeting
location
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
observe
the
meeting.
Live
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26..
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on
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meeting
agenda,
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of
the
public
May
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public
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public
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A
F
A
A
quorum.
Thank
you
we'll
move
on
to
item
three.
Please
note
this
is
the
presentation.
Only
the
city
council
will
not
take
any
action.
Public
comment
will
occur
after
the
presentation
item
item.
3.1
is
proclamation
in
recognition
of
finance
and
administrative
Services,
director
Jesse
Takahashi
on
his
retirement
and
I'm.
Just
checking
to
see
has
Jesse
joined
us
not
yet
Can.
Somebody
help
promote
him
to
the
panel.
A
By
serving
on
the
covet
operations.
Team
establishing
new
payment
under
covid-19
restrictions
and
coordinating
financial
assistance
received
by
the
federal
government,
including
American
Rescue
plan,
act,
funding
that
helped
our
most
vulnerable
residents,
local
nonprofits
and
small
businesses,
and
whereas
Jesse
played
a
critical
role
in
monitoring
and
ensuring
the
city
maintained
its
strong
fiscal,
health
and
AAA
credit
rating.
In
addition
to
the
city
continuing
to
receive
National
and
state
awards.
For
distinguished
budgeting
and
excellence
in
financial
reporting
and
whereas
Jesse
implemented,
the
restructured
business,
license.
A
Thank
him
for
his
leadership
and
guidance,
support
and
thoughtfulness
and
decision
making
and
for
continuing
to
build
Cooperative
relationships
between
the
finance
and
administrative
services
department
and
other
City
departments,
and
whereas,
after
nearly
four
dead,
four
years
after
yes,
after
nearly
four
years
of
dedication,
hard
work
and
loyalty
to
the
city
of
Mountain,
View
Jesse
will
retire
on
December,
29,
2022
and
whereas
Jesse's
colleagues
will
miss
him
and
wish
him
the
very
best.
A
A
G
Well,
thank
you
very
much
mayor
Maris
I,
certainly
appreciate
that
and
I
really
appreciate
this
honor
and
would
just
like
to
say
how
grateful
that
I
am
to
have
had
the
opportunity
to
serve
three
different
cities
over
the
past
20
almost
27
years,
I
especially
enjoyed
my
time
here
in
Mountain
View,
where
I
met
so
many
talented
and
dedicated
people
that
work
toward
a
common
cause
and
for
that
I
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
quick
shout
out
to
our
previous
city
manager,
Dan
Rich,
who
brought
me
here
to
this
fine
City
four
years
ago
and
I'd
like
to
also
thank
city
manager,
Kimber
McCarthy,
for
her
tremendous
support
and
for
her
leadership
and
friendship
to
me
through
the
past
three
very
challenging
years.
G
They've
been
been
tremendous
and
I
also
want
to
thank
my
children,
Nico
and
Noel
for
all
those
times
that
I
would
come
home
late
from
work
over
the
years,
but
my
biggest
thanks
and
appreciation
is
for
my
wife
Jane,
who
has
always
been
my
biggest
supporter
throughout
my
entire
career
and
my
life
and
I
just
like
to
say,
it's
truly
been
an
honor
to
work
with
all
of
you
here
and
I
wish
everyone
here
at
the
city
of
Mountain
View
many
future
successes.
Thank
you.
G
B
A
B
H
Well,
I'm
going
to
keep
it
short
and
sweet
I
thought
I
knew
everything
you
did.
There
were
a
few
extra
things
that
I
didn't
know,
but
mostly
I
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
us
through
these
few
very
difficult
years,
these
last
few
very
difficult
years
with
the
arpa
funds
and
when
many
cities
went
into
the
red
and
we
were
able
to
stay
in
the
black.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
These
retirements
are
always
Bittersweet,
I'm,
very
happy
for
you,
Jesse,
congratulations.
E
E
I
think
you
had
one
good
year
here
before
Covenant
and
that
year
was
really
just
you
know,
whatever
we
can
do,
and
so
I
really
appreciated
your
willingness
to
be
flexible
and
to
try
new
things
and
innovate
and
do
things
on
the
Fly
all
in
in
our
efforts
to
help
as
many
of
our
residents
and
businesses
as
we
could
so
I
know,
it
took
a
lot
of
creativity
to
do
all
that
we
did
and
you're
a
big
part
of
that
effort
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
again
wish
you
all
the
best
in
retirement
and
hope
that
you'll
keep
in
touch
and
and
look
forward
to,
hopefully
seeing
you
around.
I
Thank
you.
It's
really
been
great
to
have
you
here
in
Mountain,
View
Jesse
I
appreciate
how
well
you
do
your
job
and
how
great
you
are
to
work
with.
I,
really
appreciate
your
positive
attitude
and
your
great
sense
of
humor.
It
certainly
makes
work
a
lot
more
fun
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
Jesse
about
what
he's
going
to
be
doing
next
and
I
was
thinking.
Oh
my
gosh.
I
If
he
does
half
of
what
is
on
his
list,
he
is
going
to
be
busy
and
exhausted,
but
I
look
forward
to
hearing
about
all
those
things
you
want
to
do
it's
quite
exciting.
So
thank
you
for
everything.
You've
done
for
Mountain,
View
I,
really
appreciate
it
and
I
wish
you
all
the
best
in
your
next
phase
and
don't
be
a
stranger
we'd
love
to
have
you
come
back
and
visit.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you
and
in
particular,
I've
really
appreciated
your
willingness
to
explain
Financial
issues
to
me.
They
need
a
lot
of
explanation
for
me
and
you
are
always
willing
to
go
into
the
details
and
and
and-
and
you
know
make
sure
that
I
understood
what
was
happening
and
I
thought
that
budget
101
class
that
you
did
was
just
right
on
that.
That
was
great.
So
thanks
so
much
for
being
wonderful
to
work
with
and
and
willing
to.
J
You
know
to
step
up
and
do
new
things
like
that
that
that
really
help
people
take
part
and
understand
the
process.
K
Having
had
the
opportunity
to
chair
finance
and
investment
review,
I've
seen
it
up
close
Jesse's
work
and
how
he
handles
a
really
complex
area
of
the
the
city's
operations
and
Jesse
are
just
so
emblematic
of
the
depth
and
professionalism
that
we
have
in
staff
and-
and
there
have
been
so
many
times
when
I
wish,
that
I
could
express
that
fully
to
people
in
the
community
who
might
not,
who
might
not
know
all
of
the
the
work
that
you've
done
for
the
city
and
and
the
way
that
you've
carried
it
out
and
kept
us
in
an
outstanding
financial
position
going
forward
for
the
future.
K
So
I
I
hope
you
enjoy
all
the
the
plans
that
you
have
going
forward
and
congratulations
on
getting
to
this
Finish
Line.
L
Thank
you
well
I
just
want
to
say
congratulations
on
your
nearly
three
decades
of
public
service
and
I.
Think
what
I
want
to
highlight
is
it's
service.
Local
government
isn't
always
I
I,
think
considered
as
exciting
as
other
careers,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
possibility,
and
especially
in
a
city
like
Mountain
View,
where
we've
had
great
fiscal
stewardship
and
you're
able
to
continue
that
the
last
four
years
we're
able
to
do
things.
L
Other
cities
aren't
because
we
don't
we've
been
so
prudent
and
I
know
that
that's
because
of
of
your
help
and
assistance,
so
I'm
really
excited
that
you'll
be
able
to
do
all
the
things
that
you
want
to
do
and
not
have
to
to
be
on
Zoom
with
us
anymore,
I'm
sure
we're
all
ready
for
that
to
be
done.
But
congratulations
again.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
want
to
give
my
thanks
and
appreciation
to
Mr
Takahashi
on
behalf
of
the
entire
city
organization
and
the
executive
team
and
I
won't
reiterate
everything.
That's
already
been
said,
but
I
just
really
sincerely
appreciate
you
Jesse
for
your
financial
leadership
these
past
several
years.
I,
don't
think
that
you
can
fully
appreciate
just
how
hard
it's
actually
been
until
you've
been
in
the
trenches
and
our
executive
team
is
made
up
of
extraordinary
leaders
who
got
extremely
close
and
had
to
collaborate
constantly.
M
So
we've
talked
a
lot
about
Jesse's
technical
skills
and
his
financial
wisdom.
Certainly
his
financial
leadership,
as
mentioned
it's
not
just
here
in
Mountain
View,
he
was
a
Statewide
leader
and
served
as
president
of
the
entire
Financial
Officers
Association
of
the
whole
state
of
California.
But
beyond
that
Jesse
you
know
you're
more
than
that.
I
have
really
appreciated
your
thoughtfulness,
your
calm
demeanor.
You
have
been
a
creative
partner
to
all
the
department,
heads
very
collaborative
and
also
very
kind,
and
that
has
really
been
appreciated
and
needed,
especially
these
last
few
years.
M
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
great
partnership
and
great
service
to
the
community,
to
the
city
of
Mountain
View
and
to
all
of
your
colleagues
within
the
city
organization,
so
I'm
sure
you'll
be
on
the
golf
course
and
you
will
be
doing
really
fun
things
on
the
second
and
fourth
Tuesday
of
every
month.
So
I
want
to
wish
you
well
and
thank
you
for
for
all
of
your
service
and
everything
you've
done.
A
Thank
you
and
I
want
to
say
some
nice
things
as
well.
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
you
over
these
past
several
years,
Jesse
leading
us
through
some
extremely
challenging
and
tumultuous
Economic
Times.
But
despite
that,
unlike
many
other
cities
in
our
region,
we
were
never
in
the
red.
We
did
very
well,
which
is
an
extraordinary
Testament
to
your
work
and
it's
it's.
It's
really
been
remarkable.
What
we've
been
able
to
achieve
not
only
for
the
organization
but
also
for,
as
the
proclamation
mentions,
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
community.
A
So
thank
you
very
much
for
for
your
work
on
doing
that,
and
also
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
me.
I
feel
like
every
year,
I
ask
you
questions
about
the
equipment,
maintenance
and
replacement
fund,
and
you
are
always
very
happy
to
answer
them.
So
thank
you
for
for
helping.
A
You
know,
keep
the
council
appraised
of
what's
going
on
in
our
financial
world
Roger
Jensen,
who
ordinarily
helps
us
with
these
meetings,
wishes
you
a
happy
retirement
as
well,
and
you
know
fear
not
if
you
already
miss
me
reading
through
the
proclamation
you're
going
to
hear
it
one
more
time
tomorrow.
So,
thank
you
again.
Jesse.
We
will
now
take
public
comment
on
the
presentation
item.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
the
presentation
item
listed
in
the
agenda?
A
A
Being
no
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak,
we
will
say
thank
you
again.
Jesse
and
happy
retirement
then
move
on
to
the
consent,
consent
calendar.
These
items
will
be
approved
by
one
motion.
Unless
any
member
of
the
council
wishes
to
remove
an
item
for
discussion,
and
we
have
some
dialogue
here,
vice
mayor
Hicks,
do
you
have
an
announcement
to
make.
H
Yes,
I
am
recusing
myself
from
item
4.3,
which
is
adoption
of
an
ordinance
approving
a
development
agreement
for
the
Middlefield
Park
master
plan
project
because
of
my
business
interest
in
Siemens
health
and
ears
in
Siemens
health
and
ears,
which
is
a
medical
technology
company
located
very
very
near
the
park
plan
area.
A
Thank
you.
Would
any
member
of
the
council
like
to
pull
an
item
being
none.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
any
item
on
the
consent
calendar?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone.
Timer
will
be
displayed
on
your
screen.
E
Thank
you
mirror
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion,
and
please
bear
with
me
as
I.
Read
the
many
I
imagine
items.
E
The
motion
includes
items
4.1
adopt
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View
amending
chapter
8
articles
1
through
14
of
the
Mountain
View
city
code,
relating
to
the
adoption
of
the
2022
California
building
codes,
incorporating
by
reference
other
International
and
new
uniform
codes
and
Adoption
of
the
2021
International
property
maintenance
code.
E
Only
for
the
reading
waived
item
4.5
adopt
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Mountain,
View
authorizing
and
continuing
virtual
meetings
of
city
council
committees,
boards
and
commissions
pursuant
to
ab361
in
making
required
findings
to
be
read
in
title.
Only
further
reading
waived
item
4.6
adopt
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Mountain
View
reciting.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
questions
or
comments.
I
did
want
to
say
two
quick
things.
First,
as
a
member
of
the
CSC
I
just
want
to
commence
that
again
for
the
work
on
the
annual
comprehensive
financial
report,
it's
an
extraordinary
document
and
it
contains
a
lot
of
important
information
about
the
financial
health
of
the
city
and
I.
Do
encourage
members
of
the
public
to
to
take
a
look.
It's
a
a
huge
amount
of
work.
That's
done
every
year
and
I'm
just
grateful
for
for
for
staff.
A
That's
not
to
say
that
all
of
the
other
things
on
this
consent
calendar
aren't
important.
It's
an
extraordinary
amount
of
work
represented
here,
but
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
as
an
important
resource
for
the
community,
and
also
wanted
to
thank
kmbt
for
their
ongoing
partnership
with
the
city.
Thank
you
for
for
helping
with
the
recordings
and
making
those
available
to
the
public
as
well.
If
there
are
no
other
questions
or
comments,
we
will
commence
the
roll
call
vote.
B
A
Fantastic.
Thank
you.
We'll
now
move
to
item
five
oral
Communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
Council
on
any
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
item
during
this
section.
State
law
prohibits
the
council
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items
when
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item.
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
Zoom
or
press
star
9
on
the
phone
on
your
phone.
A
timer
will
be
displayed
on
your
screen.
D
Hi
my
Ortega
neighbors
and
I
have
reached
out
to
the
council
more
than
a
month
ago
after
it
has
failed
to
provide
us
with
a
plan
to
address
its
decision
to
make
our
street
an
RPP
an
RV
parking
program.
I
know
this
is
not
a
term
that
exists
in
a
city
code,
but
the
city
appears
to
think
that
it
doesn't
need
to
follow
the
city
code.
The
city
has
facilitated
and
condoned
the
creation
of
a
public
nuisance
and
a
safety
hazard
for
both
the
residents
of
the
street
and
dwellers
of
RVs.
D
As
anyone
who's
actually
visited,
our
street
can
see
our
views
are
blocking
site
safety
triangles
sidewalks
and
driveways,
not
removing
graffiti
storing
items
on
the
street
pavement
blocking
traffic
signs
and
parking
in
purely
residential
zones,
and
the
city
is
failing
to
protect
RV
dwellers
rights
by
not
providing
them
with
trash
and
sewage
service.
Moreover,
even
the
market
of
Ortega
as
unrestricted
is
not
consistent
with
the
city
code.
It
should
be
excluded
both
under
the
residential
parking
restrictions
still
in
books
and
under
measure
C.
D
The
city
council
created
completely
arbitrary
definition
of
what
street
width
is
directly
in
conflict
with
the
city
code,
a
definition
created
only
after
measure,
C
vote
and
still
not
approved
by
any
vote
by
the
city.
In
fact,
artaga
appears
to
meet
major
C
language,
both
by
Statute
and
by
language
on
the
ballot.
Ortega
has
blocked
narrower
than
41
feet
has
no
divider
has
a
high
density
of
driveways
and
the
street
navigation
becomes
impeded
daily.
D
Maybe
the
council
just
decided
to
wait
for
an
injury
or
property
damage
such
as
due
to
a
recent
fire
to
be
sued
by
ortegra
residents
now
that
it
has
been
put
to
notice
of
unsafe
conditions,
but
I
don't
think
that
litigation
is
the
best
use
of
anybody's
time
and
money,
so
the
ball
is
in
your
court
again.
Please
provide
us
with
promised
plan.
N
Today,
I
want
to
talk
about
that
I'll
be
packing
issue
on
we'll
take
an
envelope
and
last
week's
meeting.
Some
people
say
it's
a
lot
of
me.
So
if
we
have
low
impact
to
our
lesson,
you
want
here
so
many
complaints
about
it.
Keep
in
mind
every
family
are
different.
Army
is
not
easy
for
them.
Person
being
is
not
an
issue
for
other
people.
They
have
my
lot
be
close
enough
to
the
low.
My
last
supper
find
the
second
hand
smoke
and
the
Lord
in
the
midnight
is
comes
from
the
RV.
N
N
By
now,
the
17th
to
our
parking
limit
is
the
only
law
we
can
use
to
protect
ourselves
and
I.
Think
the
city
and
police
should
support
us
as
well
and
should
inform
the
law
when
complaint
can
I
totally
agree
that
we
should
help
the
people
living
in
RV
but
lost
to
drop
in
the
17th
to
our
parking
lot.
They
should
help
Army
people
fighting
for
better
opportunity
might
open
all
the
law
in
Mountain,
View,
RV
parking
or
fight
for
a
new,
delicate,
more
safety,
RV
parking
lot
with
water
and
electronic
facilitated.
They
should
open
their.
N
O
Hi,
my
name
is
Maxwell
and
I'm,
a
Mountain
View
resident
that
has
lived
on
Ortega
Avenue
for
over
three
years,
as
we've
already
covered
here.
This
is
now
one
of
the
few
streets
in
Mountain
View
deemed
wide
enough
for
RVs
to
be
parked
as
part
of
a
settlement
between
the
city
and
several
RV
residents.
O
Last
year,
I'd
like
to
share
my
own
experience
as
a
resident
of
Ortega
I
walked
on
Ortega
daily,
often
after
dark
I'm
I'm,
often
at
home
and
I've,
never
had
a
negative
experience
with
any
RV
owners
or
their
RVs.
In
fact,
the
instances
where
I've
seen
or
spoken
RV
residents
on
Ortega
have
either
been
neutral
or
Pleasant,
because
they're
just
people
trying
to
get
by
in
an
area
suffering
through
a
prolonged
housing
crisis.
My
experience
with
RV
residents
has
been
fine.
O
I
believe
that
folks,
in
RVs,
deserve
to
be
listened
to,
instead
of
watched.
They
are
members
of
our
community
and
at
bare
minimum
deserve
our
compassion
and
respect.
I
believe
that
we
should
be
committed
to
long-term
solutions
that
serve
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
RV
owners
themselves
and
I.
Think
that
starts
with
opening
up
a
dialogue
with
the
RV
residents
not
only
to
determine
their
needs,
but
to
build
community
with
them
in
good
faith.
O
P
Hi,
my
name
is
Natalia
I'm,
a
resident
of
Ortega
Avenue
I,
think
that
many
of
you
have
heard
about
RV
fire.
It
is
a
shoreline
and
pediatric
parking
in
Mountain
View
yesterday
affected
early
burned
down
completely
and
a
family
with
a
young
kid
lives.
Next
to
that
burnt,
RV
Army
fires
occurred
every
day
in
the
United
States.
The
latest
records
of
the
National
Fire
Protection
Association
estimates
that
20
000
RVs
fires
occurs
annually.
P
According
to
National
Fire
Protection
Association
report,
the
fire
hazard
associated
with
Aldo
or
older
models
of
RV,
they
also
have
older
engines
and
equipment
that
is
more
likely
to
fail,
which
is
common
to
cause
RV
fires,
most
fatal
RB
fires
called
occur
in
older
models
of
RV
number.
One
of
calls
of
RB
fires
is
engine
compartment,
often
in
electricals
in
the
electrical
system.
The
number
two
of
course
of
fire
is:
are
we
refrigerator
the
electrical
system?
In
general
kitchen
appliances,
engine
fuel
lines,
problem,
Etc,
Christmas
is
coming
soon.
P
Our
Ruiz
and
mountainous
city
is
going
to
their
Christmas
break
or
like
white
Christmas
lights,
very
often
ignite
and
start
to
fire,
which
is
increase.
The
risk
of
our
risk
on
Ortega
Avenue,
who
will
be
responsible
if
RV
fire,
could
set
a
fire
of
any
condominiums
on
Ortega
Avenue,
where
hundreds
of
people
live
today,
dozens
of
RVs
Park,
just
a
few
meters
away
from
apartment
buildings
on
the
most
density
population,
Street
in
Mountain,
View
I,
don't
feel
safe
anymore
with
RB
park
by
my
windows
here
on
Ortega
Avenue.
A
Q
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Unfortunately,
many
issues
persist
regarding
RVs
on
Ortega
Avenue,
one
on
Sunday,
a
man
was
walking
on
top
of
a
trailer
to
install
the
tarp
after
the
rain.
He
had
no
safety
harness
on
and
could
could
have
easily
fallen
off,
that
wet
roof
and
hurt
himself
or
others.
Also,
since
one
of
the
RVs
is
inoperable,
it
is
connected
to
a
car
by
chains
and
illegally
towed
down
the
street.
Q
R
This
is
Marguerite
a
resident
of
Ortega
Avenue
I'd
like
to
use
this
public
comment
to
highlight
what
people
living
at
RVs
are
up
against
displaced
from
croissanto.
They
are
now
scattered
across
the
city.
Those
who
wish
to
park
in
a
designated
safe
RV
lot
must
wait
on
a
wait
list,
because
the
lots
are
full.
Those
parked
on
the
street
are
surveilled
and
their
homes
photographed
for
simply
going
where
the
city
has
told
them.
They
must
Park
every
three
days.
R
The
threat
of
displacement
is
relived,
as
they
must
move
to
prove
their
vehicles
are
not
quote,
unquote
abandoned,
despite
the
fact
that
they
live
in
their
vehicles.
Four,
if
they
don't
move
their
vehicles,
their
homes
and
belongings
may
be
towed
and
essentially
held
hostage
for
a
fee.
They
may
not
be
able
to
afford
when
they
do
move
their
vehicles.
They
hope
to
find
their
spot
is
still
available.
R
R
These
changes
are
I,
believe
relatively
small
changes
for
the
city
and
could
make
a
big
difference
to
those
living
in
Arby's.
Please
recognize
the
dignity
and
Humanity
of
RB
residents.
Care
about
the
people
at
the
heart
of
this
issue
have
compassion
for
those
who
have
been,
who
have
been
displaced
again
and
again.
R
B
S
Yes
hi:
this
is
Lee
Zhang,
I
I
sympathize
with
the
people
who
have
to
live
in
the
RVs,
but
my
main
concern
now
is,
as
the
winter
comes
and
it's
getting
cold
the
people
living
the
RV
need
to
keep
warm
and
this
and
create
some
fire
fire
hazard,
as
the
previous
speakers
ever
already
mentioned,
with
both
with
cooking
inside
of
RVs
and
the
heating.
S
Because
of
the
diverse
population
live
in
the
RVs.
There's
no
prediction
factors:
that's
how
dangerous
this
could
be.
I
try
to
read
the
previous
report
in
the
past.
You
know
the
work
session
console
had
have
a
couple
years
ago.
S
I
could
not
find
any
codes
called
or
ordinance
would
keep
the
residents
safe,
as
well
as
the
people
living
in
the
RV
in
a
safe
conditions,
with
a
very
limited
resources
with
keep
warm
in
the
RVs
as
well
as
cooking
at
currently,
with
the
most
recent
count
of
how
many
RVs
actually
on
the
public
Street
exclu
excluding
region,
five,
it's
already
130
RVs
and
we
don't
really
know
if
console
has
any
Plan
called
to
help
these
people
live
in
the
RVs.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Lee
I'm,
sorry,
you've
exhausted
your
time.
The
next
speaker
is
Victoria
tov
mazian.
T
Hello,
my
name
is
Victoria
and
I'm.
A
resident
of
berkega
Avenue
I,
wanted
to
add
to
comments
regarding
the
recent
OSB
parking
ordinance
that
quite
clearly
has
had
implications
on
the
ability
of
RVs
to
inhabit
particularly
high
density
streets,
such
as
Ortega.
In
the
last
meeting,
I'd
say
we
experience
the
distressing
quantity
of
people,
demonizing
Mountain,
View,
Property,
Owners
and
residents
who
experience
personal
Community
discomfort
with
the
novel
abuse
of
residential
parking
streets.
These
red
is:
these
residents
include
individuals
and
new
families.
T
Who've
identify
a
difficult
Financial
premium
to
live
in
a
neighborhood
with
a
known
image
and
a
standard
of
cleanliness
and
safety,
and
are
now
experiencing
large
Financial
damages
due
to
the
new
silent
ordinance
and
its
lack
of
enforcement.
Despite
civilian
action.
These
residents
are
nothing
but
sympathetic
and
have
experience
with
the
difficulty
of
affording
housing
in
California
and
support
the
implementation
of
safe
parking
programs
within
the
county,
but
this
does
not
necessarily
translate
to
being
willing
to
shift
into
a
more
dangerous
Dynamic,
neighborhood
dynamic
or
bear
massive
personal
losses.
T
U
Hello,
I
am
also
a
resident
of
Ortega
Avenue,
who
has
spent
all
of
her
savings
and
life
worth
in
buying
a
house
in
this
community
and
pay
a
lot
of
taxes
in
in
the
process,
and
it's
really
disappointing
to
see
that
city
is
not
taking
any
actions
on
providing
safe
parking
spaces
for
RVs
to
park
on
residential
areas
are
not
the
places
for
RVs
to
park
long
term.
So
it's
really
disappointing
to
see
that
city
has
not
taken
any
actions.
U
Even
after
all,
the
residents
of
Ortega
had
had
a
meeting
with
city
council
to
highlight
this
issue
over
a
month
ago.
We
want
to
really
see
an
action
taking
place
on
this.
We
really
sympathize
with
the
rbe
owners
and
their
situations,
but
its
City's
responsibility
to
take
care
of
their
living
situation
and
provide
the
provide
those
spaces
for
them
to
park
where
they
can
actually
have
the
access
to
the
facilities
along
with
being
able
to
live.
So
please
please
take
an
action
on
this.
U
V
V
I'm,
sorry,
yeah,
so
I'm
sorry,
I,
live
in
also
Ortega
venue
and
I
was
also
in
the
meeting
with
the
city
councils
and
since
then
I
don't
see
any
action,
Improvement
and
people.
Some
people
said
why
don't
we
show
the
compassion
and
sympathize
to
the
people
who
live
in
RVs.
But
what
about
us?
How
how
we?
V
Our
life,
is
really
impacted,
and
then
you
know,
if
you
come
to
this
old
thing,
I
mean
it's
like
Islam
and
it's
it's
kind
of
I
don't
feel
safe,
I,
don't
feel
safe
to
let
my
children
walk
around
the
street
and
then
people
say
you
know
allow
them
to
more
than
72
hours.
Why
don't
you
take
them
to
you
know,
have
them
to
live
in
front
of
your
house.
You
know
and
also
I,
don't
think
the
people
harassing
and
taking
a
picture,
because
the
city
doesn't
take
any
action.
V
That's
why
the
resident
of
the
hotel
Avenue
taking
the
action
to
report
the
illegal
activities.
You
know
those
Stolen
Bikes
and
The
Trashies
in
the
street
and
the
people,
smoking
and
so
I
really
ask
you
to
take
the
action
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
fair
for
all
the
residents
on
the
or
the
residents
in
suffering
these
issues.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
W
I
remember
to
call
out
the
speakers
who
have
been
making
comments
over
the
past
10
or
20
minutes
that
dehumanize
the
RV
residents.
There
are
some
negative.
There
are
negative
effects
to
people
being
forced
to
live
in
RVs
on
our
streets,
but
it
is
my
impression
the
city
is
doing
the
best
it
can,
and
the
rhetoric
and
actions
of
some
of
these
individuals
is
not
consistent
with
treating
our
fellow
Mountain
View
citizens
as
human
beings.
Thank
you.
X
Yeah
well
I
the
RV's
fire
statistics
are
horrified,
2000,
RV
ironed
it
only
so
every
year
there's
an
average
of
five
358
300
home
base
fires
that
kill.
You
know
thousands
of
people,
an
average
of
2620
civilian
deaths
each
year,
including
500
children,
so
yeah
fires
are
terrible.
I
think
you
know
I
think
even
more
reason
that
we
should
focus
on
electrification
and
removing
gas
stoves
and
other
forms
of
cooking
that
are
hazardous
to
People's
Health,
both
in
catastrophic
situations
and
normally
yeah,
because.
Y
Z
Thank
you,
mayor
I'm,
Bruce,
England,
whisman,
Station,
Drive,
I,
wasn't
necessarily
going
to
speak
on
this,
but
I've
been
listening
to
all
the
comments.
I
won't
repeat
what
James
and
Alex
have
said,
but
they
make
very
good
points.
Z
I
think
that
I
personally
volunteer
for
a
safe
parking
program
in
Saratoga
and
I
interface
with
a
lot
of
vehicle
residents
there
and
it's
real
eye-opener
when
you
talk
with
them,
and
you
realize
how
they're
just
humans
they're
humans,
like
all
the
rest
of
us
and
I,
hope
that
people
will
take
advantage
of
any
opportunities
they
have
to
actually
interact
with
the
people
who
are
living
in
their
vehicles
and
those
unfortunate
circumstances.
Z
Z
Is
it
as
successful
as
it
would
like
it
to
be?
No
and
the
city
continues
to
work
on
it,
and
a
number
of
us
in
the
community
continue
to
work
on
it
too,
and
have
been
for
a
long
time,
so
it
would
be
worthwhile
for
people
in
Mountain
View
to
look
into
that
find
out
exactly
what
the
city
has
been
doing
historically
and
what
community
groups
are
working
on.
This
engage
with
the
community
groups.
There
are
constructive
things
that
can
be
done.
Thank
you.
AA
Hello,
thank
you,
I.
Don't
think
I
need
to
mention
this,
but
I
think
that
the
low
bar
that,
of
course
the
city
must
comply
with,
is
follow
the
law
and
the
large
vehicle
ordinances
now
in
effect,
and
so
almost
at
least
is
the
settlement
which
requires
the
city
to
find
a
certain
amount
of
streets
where
RVs
can
park.
AA
AA
Other
speakers
who
have
talked
about
people
needing
to
meet
their
basic
needs
when
they
have
reduced
income
and
when
this
is
their
home
and
so
I
hope
you
can
come
up
with
better
options
than
what
we
have
now,
but
meanwhile,
for
what
we
have
now.
The
council
and
residents
of
the
city
need
to
know
the
law,
respect
the
law
and
comply
with
it
and
currently
parking
an
RV
on
Ortega,
which
is
a
wide
street,
is
a
valid
action.
Thank
you.
A
AB
AC
A
Senior
planner,
Ellen
Yao
will
present
the
item
whenever
you're
ready,
Ellen,
oh
I,
don't
believe
she
has
joined
the
panel
yet
so
staff
I
may
need
some
assistance
in
promoting
there's
Ellen,
so
I'll
go
ahead.
A
Her
and
if
there
are
other
membership
staff
who
ought
to
be
promoted
to
the
panel
I,
would
appreciate
your
assistance
and
that
may
include
the
Consultants
as
well.
B
A
Yes,
we
can
see
it
and
there's
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
AD
All
right
well,
thank
you
very
much
mayor
Ramirez
and
council
members,
and
tonight
we
are
providing
an
update
on
the
second
draft
housing
element.
Again.
My
name
is
Ellen
Yao
I'm,
the
project
planner
for
the
housing
element,
project
and
I'm
joined
by
Eric,
Anderson,
Advanced
planning
manager
and
our
consultant
Stephanie
Hagar
from
Bae
and
Bev
Choi
from
ESA.
AD
Just
as
a
brief
overview,
we
initiated
the
housing
element,
update
project
at
the
beginning
of
2021,
and
we
presented
at
multiple
Community
meetings
and
study
sessions
these
last
20
plus
months.
This
started
with
the
development
of
the
framework
to
the
methodology
to
the
draft
housing
element
and
then
tonight
to
the
second
draft
housing
element.
Hcd
has
recommended
that
cities
submit
revised
drafts
rather
than
adopted
versions.
So
tonight's
study
session
will
solely
focus
on
reviewing
the
second
draft
housing
element
document
and
then
we're
seeking
additional
policy
direction
from
city
council
tonight.
AD
Other
parts
of
the
housing
element
projects
such
as
the
rezonings
and
the
environmental
review,
will
be
presented
at
a
separate
public
meeting
in
January
and
we'll
go
over
that
in
the
schedule
section
of
the
presentation
later
for
tonight.
We're
going
to
cover
the
main
three
main
things:
one
is
we're
going
to
go
over
previous
Council
Direction,
we'll
discuss
key
changes
made
to
the
housing
element
in
response
to
hcd's
comments.
AD
So
I
want
to
highlight
the
consequences
of
non-compliance
in
our
deadline
for
submitting
the
housing
element
document
to
the
hvd.
So
if
the
housing
element
is
not
adopted
and
determined
to
be
substantially
compliant
by
our
deadline
of
January
31st
of
next
year,
there
are
a
couple
of
consequences
for
the
C
that
I'm
going
to
highlight
here.
First,
there's:
a
loss
of
eligibility
for
applying
for
Grants.
AD
These
grants
fund
very
important
housing
and
transportation
programs
and
projects,
and
they
include
some
of
the
ones
that
are
listed
on
the
slide
here,
including
affordable
housing
and
a
sustainable
communities
Grant
and
our
local
Housing
Trust
Fund,
which
would
provide
funding
for
affordable
projects
and
the
obag
program,
which
allocates
federal
transportation.
Funding
for
projects
like
the
Middlefield,
complete
streets,
project,
Moffitt,
complete
streets
project
or
something
like
the
El
Camino,
El,
Monte
and
Escuela
intersection
improvements
on
another
consequence
to
having
a
non-compliant
housing
element
is.
AD
There
is
limited
ability
to
deny
certain
residential
projects
that
would
provide
20,
low-income
units
or
100
moderate
income
units.
This
would
allow
developers
to
build
housing
projects
of
any
density
and
height
and
not
be
subjected
to
development
standards.
AD
This
slide
captures
Council
direction
from
our
June
study
session,
a
council
specifically
endorsed
the
site's
inventory
that
we
presented
and
the
back
pocket
sites
and
they
also
directed
staff
to
add
three
zonings
for
100,
affordable
housing
sites.
These
are
on
East,
Dublin
and
ontarabella,
and
then
add
the
following
programs
that
are
shown
on
the
screen.
Here.
All
these
programs
were
included
in
the
second
draft
and
the
specific
program
numbers
are
shown
on
the
slide.
AD
Okay,
so
in
the
review
of
the
first
draft
housing
element,
HDD
requested
additional
clarification
and
information
for
our
site's
inventory,
specifically
regarding
Redevelopment
of
non-bacon
sites
and
demonstrating
that
the
city's
past
completion
rates
of
pipeline
projects
would
ensure
the
completion
within
the
sixth
cycle.
In
addition
to
those
main
points,
we
also
made
other
changes
to
the
site's
inventory.
This
includes
adding
two
opportunity
sites,
one
on
1250
Grant.
AD
You
know,
after
further
review
of
some
of
the
building
characteristics
that
show
that
it
did
qualify
as
an
opportunity
site,
and
then
we
also
included
15
15
1500
North
Shoreline
Boulevard.
This
is
because,
after
discussion
with
the
property
owners,
they
express
interest
in
residential
development,
which
we
did
not
know
before.
We've
also
added
newly
submitted
applications
such
as
the
685
East
notifild
project,
and
then
we
reduce
some
capacities
by
up
to
80
percent,
specifically
on
large
multi-tenant
shopping
centers,
to
acknowledge
the
existing
viable
uses
and
multiple
tenants.
AD
Since
submitting
the
second
draft,
we
received
letters
requesting
the
removal
of
a
couple
of
sites.
This
includes
the
Lozano
Car
Wash
site
and
U-Haul
sites
on
El,
Camino,
Real
and
then
based
on
previous
Council
direction.
We
have
removed
those
sites
and
the
site's
inventory.
The
table
that
you
see
here
reflects
those
changes
and
we
do
plan
on
making
those
specific
changes
to
hcd
within
the
16-day
review
period.
So
the
site
Sanctuary
right
here
on
this
in
this
table.
AD
The
second
part
of
the
acd's
comment
was
regarding
the
affh
analysis
of
the
site's
inventory.
They
asked
us
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
additional
analysis
and
so
for
the
analysis,
we
took
the
distribution
of
lower
income
units,
that's
in
the
site's
inventory,
and
we
analyzed
it
on
four
factors:
one
was
income
levels,
two
access
to
resources,
opportunity
levels,
three,
the
educational
domain
score
and
four
race
and
ethnicity.
AD
So
the
map
on
this
slide
shows
a
site
inventory
against
a
background
of
existing
income
levels
in
the
city.
So,
where
you
see
the
darker
green,
it
shows
lower
income,
households
and
the
lighter
green,
showing
higher
income
levels.
Okay,
so
that's
the
over
the
base
of
the
map.
The
data
then
shows
that
the
lower
income
units
on
opportunity
sites,
which
is
shown
in
the
purple
and
the
pipeline
projects
through
in
the
yellow
they're
located
predominantly
in
higher
income
neighborhoods
in
the
lighter
green
areas.
AD
It's
the
same
analysis
found
that
lower
income
units
are
in
areas
with
high
or
highest
resources,
high
education
opportunity
and
also
located
away
from
areas
with
the
highest
concentration
of
non-white
residents.
So
these
other
maps
are
included
in
the
latest
draft.
The
one
shown
here
specifically
for
income.
AD
And
then,
lastly,
in
the
second
draft,
we
included
program
changes.
We
included
programs
that
were
requested
by
city
council
that
was
presented
in
an
earlier
slide
in
the
presentation.
These
programs
that
required
additional
analysis
and
weren't
submitted
in
the
first
draft,
is
now
included
in
the
second
draft.
We
also
modified
programs
to
provide
specificity
to
the
programs
based
on
hcd's
comments,
so
some
of
these
included
reduced
parking
standards
for
affordable
housing,
creating
an
incentives
program
for
adu's,
develop
Adu
development
and
updating
residential
standards
and
addressing
state
laws.
AD
So
our
first
question
is:
does
the
city
council
have
any
direction
on
the
new
or
modified
program
since
the
last
draft
housing
element
and
to
highlight
we
met
with
we
presented
this
item
to
EPC
and
and
they
did
not
recommend
any
changes
to
the
programs
and
then
the
following
section
of
the
presentation
will
cover
alternative
programs
for
consideration.
So
these
programs
came
from
public
comments
and
some
of
them
were
also
previously
presented
to
council.
This
is
another
opportunity
for
Council
to
consider
these
additional
programs
to
the
housing
element.
AD
So
for
additional
rezonings
public
comments
were
received
and
most
of
them
highlighted
places
like
the
downtown
precise
plan
area,
industrial
areas,
Charleston,
Plaza
and
other
various
sites,
as
Council
considers
these
programs
I
just
want
to
specify
that
you
know
rezonings
will
increase
housing
capacity
of
the
city
and
it
will
increase
the
site
inventory
buffer
as
well.
If
we
do
include
additional
rezonings
hcd
will
expect
up
zoning
programs
to
identify
density
targets
which
haven't
been
clearly
identified
or
defined
through
any
analysis
or
Community
input
at
this
time.
AD
AD
And
then
for
the
R3
zoning
District,
this
is
kind
of
separate
from
the
previous
slide,
simply
because
there's
a
lot
more
public
comments,
highlighting
this
particular
project.
So
in
previous
study
sessions,
Council
Direction
was
to
not
include
the
R3
project
update
due
to
the
timing,
uncertainty
and
displacement
concerns
of
the
pending
project,
including
the
R3
zoning
District
update
in
the
housing
element,
would
have
the
similar
effect
that
was
discussed
in
the
last
slide,
which
means
you
would
get
an
increase
in
capacity,
but
there
could
potentially
be
delays
to
the
eir.
AD
The
third
topic
here
is
the
replacement
of
rent
stabilized
units.
This
was
raised
by
the
community
to
include
requirements
to
replace
demolished,
rent
stabilized
units,
and
the
current
housing
element
includes
a
number
of
elements
related
to
displacement
response,
which
includes
acquisition
and
preservation
of
naturally
occurring.
AD
Affordable
housing
write
a
first
refusal
requirements
for
displaced
tenants,
the
exploration
of
community-based
preservation
strategies
that
includes
Copa
and
topa
or
Community
Land
trusts
and
the
enforcement
of
tenant
protections
and
the
city's
relocation
assistance
ordinance
to
support
displaced
tenants
staff
plans
to
bring
a
displacement
response
strategy
to
council
for
2023
study
session.
That
will
include
the
exploration
of
requirements
for
the
replacement
of
demolished,
rent
stabilized
units
in
new
developments.
AD
This
portion
is
going
to
be
studied
by
staff,
and
several
options
are
under
reviewed
by
staff
and
options
does
require
further
study
for
legality,
feasibility
and
implementation.
So
right
now,
at
present,
SB
330
does
require
the
replacement
of
rent
stabilized
units
with
affordable
units,
and
this
requirement
is
expected
to
be
in
place
until
the
law
sunsets
currently
scheduled
for
2030.,
so
replacement
choirs
are
not
currently
explicitly
referenced
in
the
housing
element,
mainly
in
part
because
the
correct
mechanism
is
still
under
review
and
Council
will
get
a
chance
to
provide
that
policy.
AD
And
then
the
last
major
alternate
program.
You
know
we
received
public
comments
for
eliminating
parking
requirements,
but
the
comments
also
were
in
favor
of
maintaining
parking
standards
as
well.
So
as
it
currently
stands,
the
housing
element
does
have
a
program
and
it
does
address
reduced
parking
for
affordable
housing
and
also
TDM
ordinance
to
allow
for
parking
reductions
and
to
enhance
alternative
Mobility.
AD
Additionally,
we
do
have
in
several
areas
of
the
city
with
either
no
minimum
parking
standards
or
reduced
parking
standards,
and
these
are
in
very
large
areas
throughout
the
city
like
North,
Bayshore
and
East
Westman
state
law
also
has
reduced
a
minimum.
Almost
no
parking
standards
for
air
sites
that
are
near
Rail
stops
and
then
density.
Bonus
also
has
waivers
for
parking
reductions
as
well,
so
there
are
existing
reduced
parking
standards
that
would
address
some
of
the
comments
covered
in
this
alternate
program.
AD
So
those
are
the
four
major
alternate
programs
based
on
hcd's
comments
on
the
second
draft
that
we
submitted.
It
doesn't
appear
that
any
of
the
alternate
programs
are
necessary
to
comply
with
state
law.
However,
tonight
Council
may
still
wish
to
include
some
or
all
of
them
in
the
housing
element
and
if
Council
does
wish
to
include
any
of
the
alternate
programs.
AD
Staffers
are
recommending
a
two-step
approach
to
this
number
one
adopt
a
compliant
housing
element
based
on
hcd
input
on
the
second
draft
and
the
second
phase
review
additional
items
that
may
involve
recirculation
of
the
eir
or
discuss
them
with
hcd
and
bring
back
amendments
to
adopted
housing
elements.
This
approach
would
have
some
benefits
to
it.
It
does
provide
the
city
the
best
opportunity
to
have
a
compliant
adopted
housing
element
as
close
to
the
January
31st
2023
deadline
as
possible.
AD
So
the
question
we
posed
to
council
tonight
is
two
parts:
does
the
city
council
recommend
adding
any
of
the
alternate
programs
and
if
so,
does
the
council
wish
to
add
them
as
part
of
the
housing
element
or
part
of
a
future
update
to
the
housing
element
and
presented
to
the
EPC?
They
did
not
recommend
adding
any
alternate
programs.
AD
So
we
did
submit
the
our
draft
to
our
second
draft
to
hcd
back
in
November
and
just
yesterday
we
met
with
them
and
they
provided
some
outstanding
comments.
These
initial
comments,
you
know,
said
they
stated
that
they
didn't
have
any
comments
for
our
site's
inventory
or
affh,
but
they
did
ask
us
to
describe
in
more
detail
our
local
processing
procedures,
such
as
the
gatekeeper
process
describing
the
Landscaping
standards
and
our
requirements
and
then
also
our
reasonable
accommodation
program,
changes
that
we're
proposing.
AD
So
you
know
we
believe
we
can
make
these
revisions
by
December
21st
and
then
the
third
draft
could
be
out
for
public
review
by
December
22nd,
and
then
we
can
resubmit
to
hcd
January
3rd.
At
the
beginning
of
the
year,
hcd
has
said
that
they
can
review
these
revisions
during
the
current
60-day
review
cycle.
So
therefore,
it
is
possible
to
receive
HDC
hcd
approval
by
January
17
2023,
which
is
the
end
of
the
60-day
approval
period.
AD
A
few
major
questions,
a
second
part,
is
broken
into
two
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
EPC
overall
did
not
recommend
any
revisions
to
the
draft
housing
element
in
response
to
these
two
questions-
and
this
is
a
brief
slide
about
our
next
steps
and
our
schedule,
so
we
had
the
EPC
public
hearing
for
our
rezonings
last
week
and
then
we'll
have
we'll
bring
that
to
council
January
24th
of
next
year
and
depending
on
each
City's
determination
on
our
second
draft
and
our
revisions
and
the
level
of
work
from
Council
Direction
tonight,
housing
element
adoption
hearings
in
early
2023..
A
And
because
this
is
a
study
session,
we
will
first
take
public
comments.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone.
A
timer
will
be
displayed
on
the
screen
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
allocate
two
minutes.
The
first
speaker
is
Bruce
England.
Z
Thank
you,
Mayor
Bruce,
England,
Station,
Drive
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I've
been
talking
with
a
number
of
of
people
in
the
community
about
where
this
whole
process
is
heading,
and,
firstly,
I
Want
To
Praise
City
staff
for
working
on
this
as
doggedly
as
they
have
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
find
others
absolutely
appreciate
it.
Z
Z
We
all
want
to
make
sure
that
when
this
is
submitted
to
hcd
that
it's
acceptable
and
that
it
goes
through
and
I
guess,
I'll
wrap
up
by
saying
that
if
it's
going
to
take
more
time
going
past
the
January
deadline
to
get
it
right,
I
think
there's
a
general
sentiment
that
that's
better
than
trying
to
rush
it
through
and
really
not
having.
It
be
something
that's
going
to
work
for
our
community.
Thank.
G
W
Thank
you
I
think
the
bulk
of
most
comments
I
make.
Are
it
written
comment,
letters,
but
the
two
specific
things
I
want
to
call
out,
given
the
contents
of
the
presentation
or
first
off,
regarding
additional
resonance
as
a
potential
additional
program.
W
I
I
always
be
particularly
supportive
of
downtown
resonating,
since
that
is
a
to
me
at
least
an
affh
concern
of
improving
access
to
opportunity
to
live
in
a
down
or
down
an
area
where
there's
High
access
to
jobs,
Transit
et
cetera
and
I
would
hope
that
it
would
be
possible
to,
for
instance,
make
use
of
sb10
or
some
or
the
such
to
reduce
the
timeline
of
any
eir
analysis.
W
Since
the
purpose
of
that
law
was
to
make
it
so
we
could
do
modest
upzonings
without
needing
to
do
sequence,
reviews
and,
secondly,
I,
would
love
to
see
Citywide
parking
minimum
removal,
particularly
if
we're
going
to
be
doing
parking,
minimum
removal
for
100,
affordable
housing,
anyways
and
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
whatever
the
impacts
are
of
the
ab2097,
which
removed
parking
minimums
near
Rail,
Transit
and
near
high
frequency
bus
stops.
If
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
anyways,
then
we
may
as
well
just
remove
parking
minimum
city-wide.
W
There's
no
need
to
make
it
so
that
whatever
corners
of
the
city
aren't
covered
by
all
those
existing
areas
still
have
parking
minimums.
It
just
makes
everything
more
complicated
and
raises
housing
costs
and
helps
make
our
programs
more
concrete
to
one
of
the
other
issues
that
was
brought
up
of.
Not
all
Departments
of
the
housing
elements
haven't.
W
One
of
the
big
issues
in
the
house
and
I
want.
This
brought
up
is
governmental
constraints,
on
housing
and
cost
of
housing,
and
as
a
house,
payment
itself
mentions
parking
costs
a
lot
to
build.
So
if
we
can
commit
to
that,
that
would
significantly
help
the
strength
of
our
housing
element.
Thank
you.
AE
Good
evening
my
name
is
Ali.
Saberman
I
am
calling
on
behalf
of
the
housing
Action
Coalition
I
just
want
to
thank
City
staff
and
the
council
for
your
work
on
this
housing
element.
It's
obviously
really
really
critical,
but
just
out
of
paying
attention
to
this
housing
element
and
others
throughout
the
region.
I've
noticed
some
deficiencies
that
I
think
will
make
it
highly
unlikely
that
the
city
will
receive
certification
from
hcd.
AE
First,
noting
that
there
are
a
number
of
sites
in
the
site
inventory
that
have
already
been
counted
in
the
fifth
cycle,
it's
roughly
around
1500
units
being
double
counted,
and
these
sites
are
particularly
occupied
to
name
a
few
2580
California
Street
950
West
El
Camino,
Real,
1720,
Villa,
Street,
555,
East,
Evelyn
avenue-
and
this
is
just
generally
not
good
policy
to
be
double
counting
these
sites.
AE
We
want
to
be
maximizing
as
much
housing
as
possible
and
I
really
don't
see
this
element
getting
certified,
as
is
beyond
that,
it's
really
important
that
we
are
making
every
effort
to
adequately
promote
affordable
housing
within
the
city's
highest
resource.
Neighborhoods.
AE
AB
Hello
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
public
comment
on
the
housing
element
draft.
My
name
is
Pamela
Campos
and
I'm,
an
early
care
and
education
Advocate,
as
well
as
a
community
organizer
with
parent
voices,
which
is
a
Grassroots
organization
that
activates
and
centers
the
wisdom
of
parents
to
transform
child
care
and
ensure
all
systems
that
impact
our
families
are
just
fair
and
inclusive.
AB
Today,
I
encourage
the
city
of
Mountain
View
to
include
policies
that
support
the
development
of
child
care
facilities
in
the
updated
housing
element.
High
quality
Child
Care
is
essential
to
families
and
vibrant
Economic
Development.
Yet
there
are
numerous
barriers
to
prevent
new
programs
from
opening.
While
many
of
the
challenges
for
child
care
facilities,
development
are
similar
to
housing.
The
child
care
sector
lacks
housing
developers,
mandates,
financing
sources
and
expertise.
AB
One
of
the
biggest
challenges
is
finding
a
location
for
a
child
care
facility.
Ideally,
child
care
facilities
are
located
in
or
near
housing
and
are
close
to
family-friendly
Transportation
options.
Housing
and
child
care
costs
place
the
largest
strain
on
families.
As
these
two
Services
consume.
The
greatest
portions
of
household
budgets,
when
Child
Care
is
Affordable
and
accessible.
AB
Proactive
and
proven
policies
include
working
with
all
housing
developers
to
incorporate
child
care
that
serves
families
of
all
incomes
and
ages,
supporting
the
inclusion
of
specially
designed
and
located
housing
units
and
multi-family
projects
for
licensed
family
child
care,
home
providers
and
allowing
Child
Care
Facilities
to
serve
as
traffic
mitigation
measures
among
other
possible
solutions.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
of
these
family-friendly
policies.
AF
I
logged
into
the
wrong
account,
but
whatever
my
name
is
Emily
Ann,
Ramos
I'm,
with
SV
at
home.
We
understand
the
difficulty
that
staff
faced
in
trying
to
turn
in
a
truly
compliant
housing
element
and
we
really
sympathize.
The
goal
of
the
housing
element
is
for
cities
to
submit
to
the
state.
There
are
plans
to
address
the
housing
crisis
based
on
local
data
and
input
from
the
community.
Hcd
will
not
tell
the
city
what
to
do.
AF
They
will
simply
say
they
need
more
details,
metrics
timelines
and
question
whether
certain
programs
address
the
needs
stated
now
if
we
treat
this
like
this
is
a
pass,
fail,
homework
assignment
and
strive
to
do
just
enough
to
get
a
compliant
housing
element.
We
are
not
only
missing
a
great
opportunity
to
engage
the
community
on
Housing
Solutions.
It
puts
us
at
risk
of
going
through
multiple
rounds,
thus
delaying
the
process
and
eventual
compliance.
AF
However,
if
we
take
the
time
to
add
in
more
details
for
many
of
the
programs
that
are
requested
by
the
community,
some
some
of
these
programs,
the
city
is
already
working
on,
but
not
including
in
the
housing
element
we
can
reach.
Both
compliance
and
take
a
huge
step
solving
our
housing
crisis,
so
we
urged
the
city
council
to
direct
staff
to
provide
more
details
in
the
programs
and
fully
address
the
programs
that
are
been
asked
for
by
the
community
in
order
to
solve
our
housing
crisis.
Thank
you
so
much.
AG
Thank
you
mayor
and
esteem
members
of
city
council.
This
is
Peter
Katz
CEO
of
this
Mountain
View
Chamber
of
Commerce.
The
production
of
housing
is
rightly
one
of
the
most
pressing
issues
facing
our
city
and
the
housing
element
serves
as
our
roadmap
to
meet
these
needs.
The
city
staff
has
done
a
fantastic
job
and
has
done
a
tremendous
expended
a
tremendous
amount
of
effort
to
accommodate
the
items
noted
by
the
California
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
in
their
review.
AG
However,
the
second
draft
still
does
not
adequately
address
the
issue
that
the
chamber
and
the
HDC
raised
regarding
reducing
government
restraints
that
significantly
impede
housing
production.
Unless
the
barriers
are
reduced,
we
simply
won't
be
able
to
produce
the
numbers
specified
in
the
housing
element,
because
no
developer
will
view
the
projects
as
economically
feasible
as
such.
The
housing
element
is
incomplete
and,
ultimately
won't
be
able
to
meet
its
goals
on
slide
16
of
staff's
presentation.
Tonight,
it
was
noted
that
HD
hcd
asked
for
processing
procedures
in
more
detail.
AG
The
good
news
is
that
separate
from
the
housing
element,
the
city
has
recognized
and
been
deeply
committed
to
improving
its
processing
procedures.
The
city's
Matrix
study
details
permits
fees,
processes,
far
calculation
methodology,
the
gatekeeper
process
and
other
government
regulations
that
are
barriers
to
production
and
provides
clear
recommendations.
We
urge
city
council
to
insist.
The
housing
element
include
a
commitment
to
the
specific
process,
improvements
contained
in
the
study,
so
that
the
recommendations
become
accountable
actions
rather
than
just
suggestions.
Not
only
will
this
meet
hcd's
request,
it'll
greatly
improve
our
ability
to
meet
our
goals.
Thank
you.
AH
Hi
good
evening,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
I
shared
some
of
the
concerns
expressed
tonight
about
the
housing
elements
as
presented
ability
to
provide
adequate
housing
for
the
city.
My
concerns
are
basically
in
two
categories.
One
is
that
it
appears
to
rely
heavily
on
the
East
Westman
for
the
majority
of
the
units.
That's
basically
Google,
and
if
those
units
don't
come
through,
we
may
end
up
with
not
enough
housing,
maybe
I'm
not
so
concerned.
AH
If
the
housing
element
is
in
compliance
I'm
concerned,
if
the
city
has
enough
housing
for
the
people
who
live
here
and
putting
so
much
emphasis
on
a
single
supplier
seems
foolish.
Also,
I
would
like
to
see
more
housing
more
broadly
across
the
city.
There
appears
to
be
no
changes
or
very
little
change
to
my
neighborhood
in
Old
Mountain
View.
AH
AH
AH
Y
Dominance
in
depth
to
your
and
provided
you
with
whatever
would
be
sent
to
oops
I,
just
want
to
add
a
couple
of
oral
comments.
In
addition,
two
things
that
I
already
mentioned,
that
is
that
many
people
who
are
renters
are
also
long-term
people
who
join
the
parks
when
they
were
considered,
naturally
affordable
housing,
and
they
are
no
longer
people
who
are
renting,
who
can't
really
afford
to
Save
Market
rent,
our
king
of
those
students.
Y
Well
I
did
mention
that
before
the
other
thing
is
that
our
five
percent
zero
level
ordinance
is
something
that
people
don't
really
understand,
especially
in
the
sewards
and
disabled
people,
who
are
a
large
portion
of
the
rest
of
these
parts,
because
that's
still
the
highest
that
we've
ever
had.
That
was
2016.
Some
people
have
got
higher
rates,
but
it's
unusual
and
it's
really
unfair,
considering
that
we.
AH
Y
Data
that
we
know
that
price
owners
are
getting
windfall
profits
of
Arts.
We
didn't
know
that
before
when
I,
when
we
wrote
that
way-
and
that's
really
unfair,
so
we
would.
You
should
really
try
to
improve
some
when
I'm
not
sure
how,
because
we
have
to
open
up
the
ordinance
how
we
can
get
that
ceiling
down
to
be
more
like
three
percent.
AI
Hi
I'm
Robert
Cox
speaking
for
myself
tonight,
I'm
recommending
that
the
council
stay
on
the
path
that
the
staff
and
Council
have
approved
so
far
without
making
major
changes
or
additions
or
alternate
programs.
My
key
concerns
are
that
there
could
be
serious
consequences
if
we
don't
get
an
adopted
housing
element
by
the
end
of
January,
the
so-called
Builders
remedy,
which
would
override
the
council's
decision
making
and
provide
for
no
public
input
on
new
developments
would
kick
in.
It
has
already
happened
in
Santa
Monica
with
16
new
applications
because
they
were
late.
AI
It
could
happen
here
if
we
are
not
careful.
Above
all,
I
believe
that
it
is
our
elected
officials
who
should
have
the
final
decision
on
what
our
City's
future
should
be.
It
has
taken
a
lot
of
hard
work
by
staff,
wisdom
from
Council
and
tireless
engagement
from
the
public
to
get
to
this
point.
As
a
staff
report
pointed
out.
Ultimately,
the
EPC
did
not
recommend
any
revisions
to
the
draft
housing
element
Provisions
to
the
site,
inventory
or
changes
to
the
work
plan.
I
am
with
the
EPC
on
this
one.
AI
As
a
former
Mountain
View
EPC
member
I
will
never
forget
what
was
told
to
me
by
an
experienced
planning.
Commissioner,
at
my
first
California
planning,
Commissioners
Academy
never
be
embarrassed
to
move
the
staff
recommendation
when
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
Let's
move
forward
we're
on
the
right
track.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
X
Hey
friends
I'm
mostly
here
to
say,
I,
agree
with
my
friend
and
colleague
B.
The
city
has
done
a
lot
to
try
to
protect
mobile
home
residents,
but
it
would
be
negligent
of
us
to
not
take
advantage
of
this
opportunity
to
highlight
the
fact
that
more
protections
are
needed
and
people
are
still
being
hurt.
This
is
a
great
opportunity
to
work
with
the
state
to
have
solid
commitments
and
metrics
around
our
programs
and
protections
for
vulnerable
communities,
especially
the
older
folks
who
live
next
door.
X
Let's
look
I
I
think
that
we
already
have
some
of
it
in
our
housing
element.
Draft
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
stronger
if
we
could
commit
to
enhancing
protections
for
residents
over
time.
Not
just
saying
we
have
a
status
quo
of
red
stabilization
and
we
will
continue
to
have
that
I.
Don't
think
that
is
a
pro-housing
program,
but
it's
not
as
much
as
I
would
like
someone
over
the
Copa
are
like
stronger
commitments
than
just
to
explore
it.
AJ
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
staff
I,
really
appreciate
all
you
have
done
huge
thanks,
I'm,
really
glad
we're
addressing
the
critical
issue
of
the
long-term
effects
of
the
housing
crisis.
I'm,
a
nine-year
mobile
home
renter
mobile
home
renters
pay,
the
AGA
annual
General
adjustment
rental
increase,
and
this
year
the
AJ
is
five
percent,
so
for
mobile
home
tenants
it
covers
both
the
space
rent
and
the
rent
of
the
mobile
home.
AJ
This
is
going
to
be
a
huge
issue
if
this
continues
down
the
line
and
many
people
are
going
to
face
displacement,
if
not
soon
within
the
next
decade,
and
something
to
note
mobile
home
tenants,
we've
had
to
fight
harder
than
the
apartment
dwellers
or
mobile
home
owners.
For
this
protective
legislation,
we
were
almost
not
going
to
be
included
in
the
mhrso.
AJ
Thankfully
we
were
so
thank
you
for
that,
but
we
are
still
paying
much
more
than
mobile
home
owners
and,
unlike
the
homeowners,
our
monthly
rents
are
now
close
to
market
rate.
Antioch
actually
addressed
this
issue,
so
what
they
did
is
they
did
an
annual
cap
of
3
or
60
of
CPI.
Whichever
is
less
I
strongly
recommend.
Council
revisit
the
current
AGA
rents
in
Mountain
View
are
not
sustainable.
AJ
You
know,
we've
faced
steep
rent
increases
since
2015
our
5
yearly
increases
are
now
based
off
that
and
we
know
that
there
is
a
windfall
profit
for
landlords.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
hope
you
all
have
a
great
night
I
appreciate
the
work.
Take
care.
A
Very
much
seeing
no
other
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak.
We
will
return
to
council
for
questions
and
deliberations.
I
have
a
quick
question
for
staff.
A
This
item
is
heavily
segmented
because
there
are
various
conflicts
of
interest
that
will
have
to
be
disclosed,
but
does
that
apply
also
to
question
so
should
we
have
a
round
of
general
questions
first,
or
should
we
proceed
immediately
with
the
segmenting
and
ask
questions
specifically
for
those
items
based
on
on
each
of
the
consideration
with
the
conflicts
of
interest.
C
Thank
you,
mayor
Ramirez.
This
is
Jennifer
Logue,
City
attorney
I
would
recommend
proceeding
directly
to
segmentation
and
asking
questions
in
relation
to
you
know
each
segment.
We've
we've
worked
really
hard
to
split
this
out
so
as
to
be
very,
very
careful
about
any
action
or
Direction
Council
provides
in
each
area,
and
so
questions
should
be
limited
to
their
specific
areas.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
that's
very
helpful.
So
then
we
will
proceed
with
the
first
set
of
items
related
to
Housing
Development.
The
discussion
topics
related
to
rezoning
the
Down
countercise
plan,
the
Castro
Commons
project
program,
1.4,
religious
and
Community
assembly
sites
for
housing
and
neighborhood
shopping
areas
other
than
the
general
plan,
village,
Village
centers,
as
back
pocket
sites
and
program,
1.11,
no
net
loss
of
housing,
housing
element
sites
require
one
or
more
members
of
the
council
to
recuse
themselves
due
to
conflicts
of
interest.
H
Yes,
I'm
gonna
be
reducing
myself
from
any
discussions
about
well,
first,
whether
to
add
a
program
to
to
reason
the
downtown
precise
plan,
because
my
house
is
near
the
downtown
precise
plan
area
and,
second,
whether
to
add
properties,
Northeast
of
the
Castro
Street,
El,
Camino,
Real,
intersection
to
the
site
inventory,
with
or
without
rezoning.
Because
again
my
house
is
near
the
project
site,
also
the
potential
for
rezoning
and
the
potential
sale
of
city
streets
in
relation
to
the
Castro
Commons
project.
B
B
K
I'm
sorry,
mayor
I
have
lost
the
wording
that
I
believe
that
City
staff
sent
me
but
I
think
the
thing
that
is
most
applicable
is
the
potential
sites
east
of
Castro
Street.
C
K
Okay,
so
I
am
accusing
myself
from
discussions
about
whether
to
add
a
program
to
rezone
the
downtown
precise
plan.
K
Do
the
proximity
of
my
residence
to
the
downtown
precise
plan
area,
whether
to
add
properties,
Northeast
of
Castro,
Street,
El,
Camino,
Real,
intersection
to
the
site
inventory,
with
or
without
rezoning,
due
to
the
proximity
of
my
residence
to
the
project
site,
the
potential
for
rezoning
in
the
potential
sale
of
city
streets
in
relation
to
the
Castro
Commons
project
and
third
program
1.4
the
religious
and
Community
assembly
sites
for
housing
and
discussion
on
neighborhood
shopping
areas
other
than
General
plan,
Village
centers,
as
back
pocket
sites
in
program
1.11.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
vice
mayor
Hicks,
council,
member
of
a
toga
and
council
member
Lieber
will
be
asked
to
stepped
out
of
the
meeting.
While
we
discuss
these
items
and
we'll
start
with
the
discussion
related
to
Castro,
Commons
and
rezoning
the
downtown
precise
plan,
does
any
member
of
the
council
have
comments
or
questions
on
these
items?.
J
Yes,
this
may
seem
kind
of
basic,
but
you've
talked
about
that.
Adding
rezoning
means
that
we
have
to
recirculate
the
eir,
but
you
you
use,
but
does
that
also
mean
that
adding
any
sites
means
we
have
to
recirculate
the
eir?
AL
Thank
you,
Eric
Anderson,
Advanced
planning
manager,
so
adding
sites
to
the
inventory
at
existing
densities
wouldn't
necessitate
recirculating
the
eir.
Thank
you.
A
I
Thank
you,
you
know
I
feel
like
we've
talked
about
the
Castro
Commons
project
before
and
the
concerns
staff
had
about
adding.
That
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
reiterate
those
for
us.
AL
There
are
a
couple
of
concerns.
One
is
that
if
there
is
a
market
rate
project,
that's
proposed
there
and
we
frankly,
don't
know
the
dimensions
of
that
project.
The
potential
density
of
that
project.
AL
There
are
a
lot
of
uncertainties
about
the
project,
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
that
would
actually
be
included
and
would
actually
contribute
to
the
categories
of
Arena
that
we
really
need
to
be
concerned
about
at
the
lower
and
moderate
income
categories
could
be
fairly
small,
and
certainly
if
the
project
ends
up
proceeding,
it
could
be
less
than
whatever
we
assume
in
the
housing
element.
AL
If
we
use
our
kind
of
typical
calculations
for
for
how
how
we
might
count
opportunity
sites
as
opposed
to
pipeline
sites,
and
so
that
would
put
us
in
a
kind
of
at
loss
situation
fairly
quickly-
and
it
would
all
could
also
create
a
a
scenario
where.
AL
They're,
the
the
inclusion
of
the
sites.
If
counsel
you
know
hears
the
the
analysis
on
the
streets,
you
know
sale
of
the
streets
or
whatever
that
that
still
needs
to
be
discussed
and
deliberated
about
and
decides
that
the
the
project
shouldn't
the
city
shouldn't
sell
those
streets.
Then
it
may
make
the
project
infeasible
and
we
may
have
to
remove
them
from
our
inventory
altogether.
AL
So
since
we
don't
really
need
these
these
units,
it's
it
the
because
our
our
inventory
certainly
appears
adequate.
According
to
hcd,
we
recommended
that
we
not
include
these
sites.
Given
the
level
of
uncertainty
with
the
project,
the
Project's
characteristics,
what
actual
sites
it
would
be
using
what
land
it
would
be
using
and
other
unknowns
that
could
have
a
big
effect
on
preach
project
feasibility.
AL
Well,
it
would,
it
would
certainly
obligate
the
city
to
include
residential
density
increases
as
part
of
phase
two,
and
so
we
would
in
all
likelihood
do
that
action
during
phase
two,
because
you
wouldn't
you
wouldn't
want
to
do
two
separate
downtown
precise
plan
processes
given
SQL
and
everything.
AL
AL
However,
if
Council
wants
to
include
this
as
a
program,
we
can
you
know
given
the
the
draft
language
in
the
in
the
staff
report,
and
if
we
don't
include
any
of
these
downtown
sites
in
the
site's
inventory,
at
higher
densities,
we
would
be
able
to
have
a
more
kind
of
open-ended
possibility
of
increasing
density,
but
it
could
potentially
have
a
you
know,
time
and
cost
effects
on
the
eir
for
the
housing
level.
A
I
have
a
question:
that's
related
to
the
affh
analysis
and
we
talked
about
it.
A
little
bit
in
the
briefing
I
have
a
concern
that
95
of
our
affordable
housing
will
be
located
in
areas
where
55
or
more
of
the
residents
are
non-white,
which
is
in
conflict
with
the
affh
goals
that
are
established
by
the
state
and
I
know.
A
We
have
some
optimism
about
where
hcd
has
been
based
on
the
discussions
we've
had
with
staff,
but
sometimes
hcd
despite
positive
and
productive
conversations
will
nevertheless
surprise
the
jurisdiction
with
the
pretty
robust
comment
letter
at
the
end
of
the
review
period.
So
in
the
events
that
hcd
identifies
this
as
a
concern,
you
know
we
want
you
to
include
more
affordable
housing
in
in
areas
where
you
have
you
know,
majority.
A
You
know
white
neighborhoods,
for
instance,
the
staff
have
a
backup
plan.
What
would
we
do.
AL
I
think
one
option
here
would
be
to
come
back
to
council
with
another
study
session
again.
This
is
not
something
that
we've
heard
from
hcd
in
any
of
our
conversations,
so
we're
not
expecting
it,
but
if
there
was
feedback
of
that
level-
and
it
does
force
us
to
kind
of
make
big
changes,
you
know
propose
additional
inventory
sites
propose
specific
densities
in
particular
neighborhoods
such
as
downtown,
which
we
would
have
to
do
in
order
to
identify
sites
in
our
inventory
it
would.
AL
A
Thank
you
and
then
a
follow-up
question
to
that.
If
is
it
helpful
for
the
council
right
now
to
provide
some
preliminary
Direction
in
the
events
that
hcd
comes
back
with
some
strong
comments
to
this
effect
right?
So
if
we
were
to
say
if
hcd
says
not
meeting
your
asfh
obligations,
you
know,
then
you
have
direction
from
the
council
tonight
to
pursue
some
course
of
action.
Is
that
helpful
to
you
or
is
it
your
preference
to
wait
to
see
what
hcd
says
you
know
get
that
comment
letter
and
then
schedule
a
study
session.
AL
Yes,
that
could
be
helpful.
It
it
I
would
be
I
would
caution
the
council
that
a
lot
more
than
just
Council
direction
would
need
to
go
into
that
analysis.
It
would
also
include
some
pretty
robust
analysis
of
site
Redevelopment
feasibility,
and
that
would
have
you
know
that
would
set
kind
of
minimum
densities
for
particular
sites,
and-
and
we
would
certainly
want
counsel
to
be
aware
of
that
before
signing
off
on
it.
A
A
I'm
not
seeing
anything
as
a
I'll
I'll
provide
a
quick
start.
I
I
am
concerned
about
that
affh
metric.
It
really
stands
out
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
be
extraordinarily
prescriptive
tonight
to
provide
Direction
in
the
event.
Hcd
does
flag
that
as
a
problem,
but
I
appreciate
its
depth.
A
Analysis
in
the
responses
to
the
council
questions
submitted
in
advance
of
that
meeting,
which
show
that
if
we
do
put
in
some
tactical
sites
that
we
could
have
you
know
material
impacts
on
that
specific
metric-
and
you
know
downtown
is
an
important
component
of
that.
If
there
isn't
support
right
now
to
definitively
include
a
site,
you
know,
I
do
think
that
it
might
be
helpful.
That
empowers
the
staff
to
say
if
we
do
get
that
direction
rather
than
delay
things
further
wait
for
another
study
session.
A
You
know
you
can
begin
to
start
that
analysis
of
figuring
out.
How
do
we
get?
You
know
more
affordable
housing
in
certain
areas
that
help
us
achieve
our
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
goals,
so
I
I
do
think.
That's
a
prudent
action
council
member.
L
Sure
I'll
I'll
respond
to
this
topic
mayor,
which
is
I,
think
I
found
the
numbers
problematic,
but
in
a
different
way,
which
is
I,
find
the
ffh
guideline
in
terms
of
metric
of
you
know
racial
analysis,
Antiquated
and
I.
L
Don't
think
it
takes
into
account
State
demographics
I,
don't
think
it
takes
into
account
Regional
demographics
over
50
percent
of
Mountain
View
is
non-white,
so
I
really
felt
like
you
know,
though,
the
the
civility
Roundtable
discussed
kind
of
the
the
history
of
Mountain
View,
and
you
know
the
the
different
things
that
have
occurred
in
in
our
city,
including
redlining,
which
occurred
all
throughout
the
country.
I
I
do
find
that
it
isn't
a
metric
with
which
I
find
that
helpful
when
discussing
housing.
L
I
think
that
to
me
I'm,
looking
kind
of
cost
of
living
cost
of
housing
and
how
that's
equally
distributed
through
the
city
in
terms
of
people
being
able
to
buy
and
rent
lease
at
different
price
points
throughout
our
community.
So
that
is
the
issue
that
I
took
with
the
numbers
with
the
the
affh
metric
and
while
I
can
understand.
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
other
comments
or
any
direction
that
we
want
to
provide
pertaining
to
these
topics?
Council,
member
matacek,.
I
Yes,
I
was
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
other
ones.
We
talked
about,
not
that's
necessarily
the
ones
you
two
were
just
talking
about
and
is
that
okay
did
you
want
to
switch
okay,
so
I
would
have
concerns
about
including
the
Castro
Commons
project.
I
I
I,
wouldn't
want
to
give
the
impression
that
we
are
they've
already
decided
to
sell
streets
and
change
the
Zoning
for
that
property,
because
we
really
haven't
talked
about
that
and
so
I
I
don't
think
it
should
be
included
if
the
property
owner
wants
to
pursue
that
I
think
they
can
go
through
the
gatekeeper
process,
like
any
other
property
owner
wanting
to
rezone
their
property,
and
we
can
sort
it
out
that
way.
I
I
also
feel
like
there's
not
enough
information
about
other
than
the
existing
things.
We've
talked
about
as
being
in
part
of
phase
two
of
the
downtown
precise
plan,
so
I
I
also
am
not
wanting
to
include
that.
You
know.
I
actually
think
the
EPC
had
a
very
robust
conversation
about
the
housing
element
and
I
appreciate
and
agree
with
their
recommendation
that
we
should
go
forward
with
what
we
have
I'm
not
interested
in
extending
the
timeline
at
all.
I
I
would
rather
go
forward
with
what
we
have
and
if
we
want
to
pursue
a
difficult
additional
programs
or
additional
projects,
we
can
do
that
and
have
the
discussion
as
part
of
our
goal
setting,
and
you
know,
talk
about
additional
things
that
way,
as
opposed
to
like
in
the
next
update
to
the
housing
element.
I
would
just
do
it
as
part
of
the
goal
setting
that
we'll
have
early
next
year.
S
J
Pastor
Commons
is
really
a
a
very
difficult
issue
because
we
haven't
had
a
goalkeep,
a
gatekeeper
process
and
what
two
three
years
I
mean
so
I
think
that
if
we
say
something
you
know
something
has
to
wait
for
the
goalkeeper
process.
It
could
be.
J
You
know
four
or
five
more
years,
I
mean
it's
so,
on
the
other
hand,
I
don't
like
the
idea
either
of
saying
I
mean.
We
can't
say
at
this
point
that
we
accept
this
project,
because
we
we
we
haven't,
discussed
what
it's
like.
We
could,
of
course,
accept
Redevelopment.
We
could
put
this
site
in
with
the
idea
that
it's
Redevelopment
under
existing
zoning,
but
that's
not
what
they've
talked
to
the
community
about
so
I
anyway.
J
I
find
this
one
very,
very
difficult,
and
because
of
the
way
the
gatekeeper
process
really
hasn't,
operated,
I
I,
don't
think
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
been
successful
and
I.
Don't
think
this
is
the
discussion
to
to
deal
with
that.
But
it's
you
know
it's
relevant
for
Castro
Commons
and
it
makes
me
it
makes
me
very
uncomfortable,
so
I'm
interested
in
what
other
people
think
about
that.
B
L
So
I
think
this
is
discussing
the
three
items
which
is
you
know
if
we
wanted
to
include
the
downtown
precise
plan,
cash,
your
Commons
and
then
I
think
it's
the
church
uses.
Is
that
correct,
so
we're
discussing.
A
Okay,
we
we
can
do
with
by
snare
picks
and
council
member
Robbie
Koga,
so
I
think
right
now
we're
just
just.
L
L
When
the
the
study
session
on
the
the
housing
Island
first
came
forward,
I
was
on
family
leave,
but
I
will
say:
I
am
interested
in
what
gives
the
city
the
most
amount
of
flexibility
and
I
think
in
the
discussions
that
I've
had
with
staff
and
just
the
the
line
of
questioning
tonight
I
feel
like.
L
There
are
past
paths
forward
for
both
of
these
areas,
and
so
we
just
saw
that
we're
discussing
you
know
the
downtown
precise
plan
already
council
is
and
I
think
we
have
yet
to
see
what
the
final
final
of
that
the
Castro
Commons
property
is
I
feel
like
there's
different
iterations
that
that
come
forward.
So
I
think
that
there
are
two
processes
that
we're
already
following.
One
is
the
gatekeeper
with
Castro
Commons.
L
The
other
is
the
downtown
precise
plan
and
I
do
tend
to
agree
with
what
EPC
discussed,
which
is
not
including
these
I
think
both
of
them
will
see.
Redevelopment
and
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
capture
the
most
amount
of
flexibility
and
what
the
city
can
receive
and
ask
for
and
the
parameters
that
we
can
set
and
I
from
what
I
have
you
know
discussed
with
staff.
It
could
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult
should
if
we
were
to
envelop
them
into
the
housing
element.
Thanks.
A
Thank
you
so
I
I'm
I'm,
not
counting
a
majority
or
making
any
modifications
to
these
components
of
the
housing
element.
So
I
you
know
we
could.
We
can
move
on.
I
will
say
this
will
be
a
broader
scene
that
will
affect
my
thinking
for
other
topics
too.
But
I
I
remain
concerned
about
that
assh,
metric
and
I.
Think
you
know
to
your
point
council
member
committee.
A
It
might
be
helpful
for
us
to
better
understand
how
hcd
interprets
that,
because
there
is
a
lot
more
Nuance
than
you
know
what
you
get
with
white
non-white
and
that
may
be
how
hcd
thinks
about
it
or
may
not
be
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
the
council
maybe
to
to
understand
how
that
metric
will
be
evaluated
by
hcd
I
council
member.
L
Well
and
I
and
I
think
my
understanding
is
that
staff
has
been
having
discussions.
They've
already
had
three
meetings
with
hcd
staff,
and
perhaps
that
could
be
the
direction
given
mayor
is
to
continue
that
conversation
and
to
fully
understand
how
that
would,
you
know,
affect
the
housing
element
and,
and
that
would
be
maybe
the
suggestion
that
I
make
hearing
the
concerns
that
you
and
I
both
share
I.
Think
there
there's
many.
So
perhaps
staff
can
can
work
to
continue
that
conversation.
A
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
write
that
down.
I
think
that's!
That's
probably
high
level
enough
for
the
full
Council
to
participate
in
that
discussion,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
recommendation.
Okay,
so
summarizing
in
Council
directions.
There
is
not.
We
are
making
no
changes
to
the
Casper
common
Properties
or
to
the
downtown
precise
plan,
and
so
now
we
will
invite
by
snare
picks
and
council
member
abeco.
Back
to
the
panel.
A
I
think
both
of
our
colleagues
have
returned.
Welcome
back
so
now
we're
moving
on
to
1.4,
which
is
the
religious
and
Community
assembly
sites
for
housing
and
1.11,
which
is
related
to
Neighborhood
shopping
areas
other
than
the
general
plan,
Village
centers,
as
back
pocket
sites.
B
H
H
Apparently,
a
Moffat
site
shopping
center
site
shopping
center
site
on
my
Moffat
that
is
listed
and
I'm
just
for
these
sites.
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
in
various
areas
and
moffatt
being
one
of
them
that
we
keep
the
the
amount
of
retail
and
restaurants
that
the
street
now
has
I
think
that
in
order
to
to
optimize
the
use
of
the
transit
center
and
allow
people
to
get
out
of
their
cars,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
residential
sites
around
there.
H
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
we're
not
turning
that
particular
site
losing
all
the
retail
and
restaurants
and
turning
it
all
into
to
housing
or
turning
off
it
up
and
down
into
housing.
I
would
like
it
to
become
a
little
more
like
Castro
Street,
a
you
know,
a
walkable
street,
so
my
question
is:
is
there
is
with
that
site
listed
in
the
housing
element?
Is
that
the
direction
we're
going
in
or
should
we
remove
it
because
we
will
hopefully
be
doing
a
market
precise
plan?
Would
that
be
a
more?
H
You
know
a
way
that
would
allow
residents
to
weigh
in
more
and
make
sure
that
we
turn
that
street
into
the
you
know
a
street
that
allows
people
I'm
repeating
myself
now,
but
allows
people
to
get
out
of
their
cars
and
and
or
reduce
a
number
of
cars
and
and
walk
for
daily
needs,
which
would
be
the
better
way
to
handle
that.
Do
you
think.
AL
Yeah
so
I
I'm
happy
to
answer
this
question,
but
the
site
that
you're
asking
about
is
actually
a
general
plan,
Village
Center,
and
so
it's
not
part
of
the
topic
that
council
member
Lieber
is
recused
for
which
is
sites
that
are
not
already
General
plan.
Village
centers.
H
F
AC
AL
The
the
major
ones
are
Leon
drive
up
there
by
101
and
85..
AL
J
The
Grant
Road
one
is
a
Village,
Center
and
and
Miramonte
Questa
is
a
mirror.
Is
a
Village
Center
exactly
yeah?
Thank
you.
A
There
are
no
questions.
Are
there
any
comments
or
recommendations.
J
Yeah,
no,
that's
a
question
for
staff.
I
mean
it
seems
like
it
seems,
like
it's
kind
of
obvious
that
they
should
be
included,
or
so
there
could
be
aspects
of
each
one
in
particular
that
that
may
get
questionable.
But
but
generally
I
mean
what's
what's
the
story
behind
these
that
that
makes
us
makes
us
need
to
consider
it
right
now.
AL
Sure
so
the
story
behind
specifically
the
shopping
centers,
is
that
that's
what
you're
asking
about
yeah
yeah,
so
the
story
behind
these
shopping
centers
is
when
we
did
the
Outreach
for
the
general
plan
back
way
back
10
years
ago,
20
before
2012.,
we
asked
the
community
is
a
lot
of
questions
about
where
they
felt
Village
centers
were
where
they
felt
that
opportunities
for
growth
in
their
neighborhoods
were
where
they
felt
opportunities
for
change
were,
and
these
particular
neighborhood
shopping
centers
were
not
identified
as
as
opportunities
for
growth
and
change,
and
so
they
were
kept
as
commercial
uses
only
in
the
general
plan,
and
so
why?
AL
Why?
Wouldn't
you
want
to
include
that?
Certainly,
we
have
not
discussed
this
with
the
community.
I
think
the
purpose
of
the
back
pocket
sites
is
that
we
would
kind
of
start.
You
know
on
Council
initiation
or
on
no
net
loss
initiation.
We
would
start
working
with
Community
neighborhoods
to
kind
of
identify
which
of
these
back
pockets
would
be
easiest
and
most
best
to
move
forward
on.
AL
You
know,
based
on
Outreach,
based
on
other
needs
in
the
community
issues
like
affh
and
things
like
that.
We
could
present
all
of
that
to
council
when
we
have
to
start
going
down
the
Nova
loss
process.
AL
AL
Know
well,
there's
no
way
that
this
could
ever
support
housing
for
one
reason
or
another.
It
you
know,
Council
input
on
that
would
be
appreciated.
B
E
Thank
you
here,
so
thank
you
for
listing
the
sites.
I
was
trying
to
find
them
in
the
staff
report
and
had
trouble,
but
I
actually
had
some
comments
on
some
of
these
sites.
I
actually
think
that
the
Calderon
shopping
center,
which
I
believe
is
church
in
caldron,
but
I
live
far
enough
away.
So
I
can
talk
about
it.
E
Don't
think
it's
a
very
large
site,
and
it
currently
has
you
know
like
a
like
I
call
it
the
corner,
store
a
laundromat
neighborhoods
serving
services,
and
you
know
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
mindful,
as
we
do
this
to
you
know
not
disincent
device,
those
types
of
uses,
especially
since
we're
you
know
a
big
part
of
the
site
is
to
be
create
a
more
walkable
community
and
as
we
you
know
now,
I
know
that
we're
trying
to
we're
being
very
cognizant
about
saying
we
would
add
housing
to
these
sites
and
not
eliminate
retail,
but
I
think
the
site
itself
has
to
be
large
enough
to
be
able
to
sustain
both
and
I.
E
Don't
see
this
side,
I
I
actually
go
there.
There
quite
often
as
being
large
enough
without
you
know
demolishing,
what's
there
now
and
rebuilding,
and-
and
you
know
my
concern
with
that-
that
is
Redevelopment
is
that
we
usually
end
up
losing
the
retail
or
the
retail
it
becomes
smaller.
E
So
I
would
like
to
eliminate
the
Calderon
site:
I,
don't
Liang,
I,
I
I'm,
not
sure
I
know
that
one's
been
kind
of
dormant
for
a
while,
so
there
might
be
potential
there,
but
I
I
can't
recollect
how
large
the
site
is
so
I
think
it's
small
I
see
like
saying
as
well
so
yeah
I
think
you
know
anything
that
doesn't
seem
like
it
would
be
large
enough
to
sustain
both
the
retail
and
the
housing
should
be
eliminated.
So
if
Liang
is
that
way,
I
know
councilman
medic
lives
out
in
that
neighborhood.
E
So
she
has
a
better
understand
idea
of
how
large
it
is
refer
to
her,
but
yeah
I
I
just
really
want
to
shy.
You
know
be
to
be
cognizant
and
and
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
disincentivizing
we
what
retail
we
have
left
in
our
neighborhoods
same
with
manadama
It's,
a
larger
site
and
I'm
thinking.
Well,
maybe
that
can
that
parking
lot
fit
some
housing,
but
there's
already
other
buildings
in
the
parking
lot.
E
So
it
might
be
I
think
it
would
be
a
squeeze
and
you
know
they
have
Services
there,
like
the
grocery
store,
that
I
think
the
neighborhood
really
frequents
so
I
would
actually
yeah
not
want
to
touch
that
and
then
Bailey
Park
I
mean.
Perhaps
you
could
do
something
on
the
front
side
of
the
parking
lot
facing
Shoreline,
but
I
just
yeah
when
I
think
it
might
be,
would
be
minimal
so
that
one
I
you
know
I
could
be
open
to,
but
I
certainly
I
think
the
other
three.
I
Thanks
yeah
I
guess:
I
need
to
know
what
specifically
is
included
in
the
Liang
shopping
center.
I
can
think
of
you
know
an
area
that
has
a
few
restaurants
bar
little
shopping
center.
I'm.
Sorry
grocery
store,
it's
not
a
huge
site,
it's
kind
of
long
and
narrow,
and
if
I'm
thinking
of
the
right
area
and
so
yeah
I,
think,
council,
member
Abe
kogar
raised
a
good
point
for
the
smaller
sites.
I
I
would
be
concerned
about
the
replacement,
I
guess
I
would
say
of
neighborhood,
serving
retail
with
housing
and
not
having
the
retail
come
back.
If
it
was
mixed
use
and
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
say
if
it's
a
larger
site
but
I'm
not
sure
what
I'd
say
that
is
it's
okay
to
have
it
in
the
back
pocket.
But
if
it's
a
smaller
site,
maybe
we
don't
add
it
right
now,
I,
don't
know
if
staff
has
an
idea
of
like
is
it.
I
AL
AL
Okay,
as
well
as
the
block
two
hotels
between
Avondale
and
Fairchild
on
that
block
east
of
Leon.
I
Okay,
I
guess
I
would
have
concerns
about
losing
the
hotels
in
that
area
and
I.
Think
one
or
two
of
them
have
been
approved
to
be
redeveloped
into
hotels.
Haven't
they.
AL
Unaware
of
any
existing
hotels
that
are
have
been
approved
to
be
redeveloped,
the
vacant
site
has
gone
through
a
number
of
iterations
on
a
proposed
Hotel
there,
I
I,
don't
know
the
current
status
of
that
application.
I
Okay,
yeah,
that's
right!
Sorry,
I'm,
not
remembering
that
correctly
yeah.
So
maybe
if
we
could
have
something
where
we
figure
out
a
size
criteria
for
this
and
I
guess,
I
wouldn't
include
one
where
a
street
divides
it.
I
L
Great
thanks
I
had
a
quick
question,
so
the
sites
that
we're
discussing,
though
they're
for
back
pocket,
say,
inventory
correct
right:
okay,
so
they
they
would
be
similar
to
other
sites
in
the
back
pocket,
which
is,
you
know,
there's
an
opportunity
there,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
any
of
the
existing
uses
would
need
to
to
change
correct
stuff.
AK
Well,
actually,
if
you're
talking
about
the
neighborhood
shopping,
centers
and
maybe
Eric
can
chime
in
just
for
background.
What
council's
discussing
right
now
is
the
known
net
loss
program
that
we've
put
into
place
that
allows
the
city
if
we
find
that
some
sites
are
developed
from
my
site's
inventory
that
are
developing
with
fewer
units
at
various
income
levels.
These
are
the
sites
that
are
going
to
make
up
the
difference.
We
can
go
and
rezone
these
sites
and
make
up
the
difference.
AK
So,
yes,
the
expectation
is
that
the
primary
use
on
these
sites
will
be
residential,
so
these
shopping
centers,
for
example,
will
be
redeveloped
to
have
residential
on
them.
AL
I'll
also
add
that
you
know:
we've
we've
crafted
a
framework
that
we'll
be
bringing
to
the
Council
on
January
24th,
which
effectively
preserves
the
retail
on
shopping
center.
You
know
General
plan
mixed
use,
Village
Center
sites,
and
so
we
we've
set
up
some
standards
for
that
and
made
all
of
the
SB
330.
AL
You
know
kind
of
conservation
of
of
residential
density
determinations
and
everything
and
we'll
find
we'll
bring
that
forward
to
you
on
January,
24th
I
think
that
if,
if
council's
really
interested
in
preserving
retail
on
these
sites,
I
think
that's
a
framework
that
we
can
extend
pretty
easily
to
these
other
sites
and
we
would
be
able
to
under
the
no
net
loss
program.
L
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
clarification,
I
think
that
that
distinction
is
important
and
I,
and
my
understanding,
though,
and
just
to
clarify
from
the
comments
from
the
assistant
city
manager
in
community
development
director,
though,
is
that
this
would
be
these
are
all
still
back
pocket
sites.
Should
we
not
be
able
to
reach
them
through.
All
of
the
other
inventory
which
we
have
already
put
forward.
Is
that
correct
right.
AK
L
You
thank
you
yes,
I
appreciate
you
continuing
on,
but
that's
not
the
question
I'm
asking
I.
Just
that's
this
is
the
question
that
I'm
asking
because
I
wanna
I
don't
want
to
go
too
far
into
the
weeks
yet
so
that
I
want
to
be
able
to
answer
the
mayor's
question,
which
is
you
know,
I
think
that
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
the
back
pocket
sites
but
I
do
think
there
needs
to
be
framework
which
preserves
retail
and
I
am
interested
in
the
the
bifurcation
of
the
streets.
L
Doesn't
concern
me
as
much
as
making
sure
that
it's
like
compatible
with
the
neighborhood
and
that
it
doesn't
take
away
existing
you
know
uses
because
in
particular,
where
Liang
is
that's,
where
my
dry,
cleaner
is
I,
can't
find
a
dry
cleaner
anymore
in
Mountain
View,
so
I'd
like
to
you
know,
preserve
the
small
businesses
and
I.
Wonder
too.
L
H
Well,
I
was
going
to
say:
I
was
prepared
to
just
say
what
council
member
can
I
said
so
I'll
just
yeah
that
so
I'll
just
quickly
underline
it.
I
do
I,
am
agreeing
with
what
and
then
add
that
I
am
agreeing
with
with
what
some
other
council
members
have
said.
I
think
that
site's
less
under
a
certain
size,
it's
going
to
be
hard
to.
H
They
are
often
essential
retail
in
the
area,
and
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
put
housing
and
preserve
the
retail
I
would
have
a
a
size
metric
of
some
point
but
other
than
that
I
agree
kind
of
where
we're
trending,
that
preserving
the
retail
is
really
important
for
helping
people.
You
know
not
feel
that
they
have
to
get
in
their
cars
and
buy
two
cars
per
household
or
whatever
so
I
do
think
it's.
H
It's
really
important
to
some
I
appreciate
that
their
back
pocket
sites,
but
to
have
some
ways
to
preserve
the
retail
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that
foreign.
J
Yeah
mine's
definitely
a
comment
too.
I
was
going
to
say,
I,
agree
with
council
member
kame
and
I
I
I
really
think
that
if
the
site
is
too
small,
the
I
mean
I
think
we
should.
We
should
include
that
we
want
these
sites
to
remain
having
commercial
and
Retail
availability,
but
but
developers
are
very
smart
and
if
they
want
to
redevelop
and
and
figure
out
how
to
put
housing
on
them
and
the
commercial
I'm
all
for
it
go
for
it.
J
So
I
I
think
that
just
leaving
them
in
the
in
the
back
pocket,
as
we
have
them
is,
is
seems
like
a
good
way
to
go.
A
Thank
you,
I'll,
take
a
quick
turn,
so
I
have
no
problem,
leaving
these
sites
in
the
back
pocket
as
well,
which
would
mean
that
the
direction
the
staff
is
take.
No
additional
action
on
these
sites,
they're
already
in
the
back
pocket,
if
we
have
to
rezone
them
for
residential
I,
think
there's
clearly
a
strong
desire
to
retain
a
commercial
or
retail
component.
So
if
we
have
to
make
those
decisions,
I'm
confident
that
the
council
will
will
take
that
action
when
it's
appropriate.
A
The
the
typical
density
for
affordable
housing
is
much
much
higher
than
what
is
proposed
in
the
program.
What
is
proposed
in
the
program,
I,
don't
think,
is
defensible,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we've
ever
had
affordable
housing
within
recent
history
at
densities,
that
low
and
I
I
would
recommend
that
we
consider
a
density
for
affordable
housing
on
these
sites.
That
is
in
line
with
what
we
typically
see
and
I
would
be
even
comfortable
with
going
at
the
lower
end
right.
So
we,
the
lowest,
is
49.5
units
per
acre.
A
The
highest
is
136.7
units
per
acre.
The
average
is
77.3.
I
would
be
okay
with
60
as
a
starting
point,
because
at
least
that's
a
defensible
number.
We've
had
several
affordable
housing
projects
around.
That
density,
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
density
that
will
be
economical
for
affordable
housing,
Developers
but
I'm
open
to
other
suggestions
and
ideas
too,
but
my
strong
recommendation
would
be
to
increase
the
density
to
to
60
or
a
number
close
to
that
which
is
much
more
in
line
with
affordable
housing.
H
Yeah
I
would
be
comfortable
going
to
60.
it's
a
short
comment.
I
I'm,
actually,
okay,
leaving
it,
as
is
because,
when
you
factor
in
the
state
density
bonus
law,
it
does
become
a
much
more
dense
project
and
and
and
so
it
is
going
to
get
to
the
number
you're
suggesting
and
and
I
think
we
always
take
a
a
hard
look
at
affordable
housing
projects
and
we
I
think
are
open
to
making
changes
to
accommodate,
affordable
housing.
So
I'm,
okay,
with
this
as
the
starting
point,
especially
when
you
factor
in
the
state
density
bonus
law
thanks.
I
A
J
I
really
agree
in
a
sense
with
what
council,
member
matajek
said
and
yet
I
think
that,
starting
with
a
number
like
60,
since
we
know
that's
our
track
record
over
the
last
year,
10
years
is,
is
really
just
more
more
straightforward
and
so
I
I
think
that
it
is
an
appropriate
number
and
we
should
just
include
that
and
you're
right
I
mean
everything
is
State
density
bonus
now,
but
the
last
the
last
one
we
saw
it
only
used
1.2
percent
of
the
state
density
bonus,
which
is
kind
of
a
record.
A
Also
I
I'll
we'll
take
a
straw
poll,
but
just
as
a
as
a
quick
thought
I'm-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
broader
issue,
but
I
I
really
don't
want
to
get
into
the
habit
of
planning
you
know
and
and
forcing
developers
to
use
the
state
density.
Bonus
I
would
rather
have
in
place
land
use
regulations
that
you
know,
provide
an
outcome
that
we've
support
and
is
community
supported,
rather
than
have
a
set
of
development
standards.
A
That
really
don't
matter,
because
we're
basically
forcing
a
developer
to
use
the
state
density
bonus
to
maximize
the
density
and
then
to
maximize
waivers
and
concessions
to
get
around
all
of
the
development
standards
that
we
have.
It
strikes
me
as
as
a
challenging
way
to
plan,
because
we
can't
anticipate
what
waivers
and
concessions
might
be
used,
but
if
there
are
no
other
comments
or
questions,
so
if
the
direction
for
council
member
matter
check.
I
Yeah
well,
could
solution,
be
it's
60
units
per
acre,
including
the
state
density
bonus
law?
A
That
might
be
a
reduction
in
the
base
density
right,
I,
don't
know
what
the
maximum
density
for
affordable
housing
is.
80.
Is
that
right
staff.
AK
I
think
if
we
use
80
as
our
metric,
we
can,
we
can
figure
it
out.
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
future
changes
to
density
bonus
law.
So
if
Council
wants
to
direct
us
to
say
they
want
it
to
get
up
to
60
percent
with
density
bonus
and
for
us
to
come
back
with
the
base
that
might
even
be
I
would
say
that
somewhere
between
30
and
40
anyway,
which
is
what
we
were
suggesting.
L
Thanks
so
I'll
I'll
speak
to
this
I,
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
do
a
straw
motion
for
it
or
not.
So
for
for
this
item,
I
actually
agree
with
staff.
My
understanding
is
that
the
those
who
would
fall
under
religious
and
Community
assembly
sites
did
not
respond
to
the
city
and
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
input,
and
my
I
would
like
us
at
the
city
and
and
as
this
draft
moves
forward,
to
try
to
solicit
more
feedback
from
the
communities
that
these
policies
would
affect.
L
I'd
like
for
them
to
have
a
little
bit
more,
be
part
of
the
conversation,
so
I
I
feel
hesitant
to
talk
numbers
tonight
without
having
their
input
to
to
be
completely
honest
because
not
all
have
have
participated,
I
think
the
other
is
that
you
know
this
recommendation
is
also
part
of
current
r3s
densities.
I
know
that
we'll
be
talking
about
are
three
sometime
in
the
future,
and
so
this
these
sites
may
be
have
some
changes
in
their
future.
L
So
I
do
think
that
there's
different
opportunities
for
us
to
you
know,
maybe
perhaps
be
more
aggressive
with
what's
on
the
properties
but
I
I.
Do
think
it
needs
a
little
bit
more
honestly,
conversation
from
the
parties
involved,
so
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
the
staff
recommendation.
Because
of
those
reasons
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
before
we
take
the
vote,
thanks.
A
Thank
you
any
remaining
comments
so
on
this
one
there
are
differences
of
opinion,
so
we'll
take
a
staff.
Sorry,
a
poll
and
the
the
recommendation
would
be
to
increase
the
maximum
density
or
church
sites
for
100,
affordable
housing
to
60
units
per
acre.
If
there's
support
for
that
recommendation,
we'll
show
its
hands
one.
Two
three
three
is
not
a
majority,
so
that
does
not
pass
and
we'll
proceed
to
the
next.
Oh
actually
that
concludes
the
segments.
So
we
can
invite
councilmember
Lieber
back
in
so
I'll
text
her.
A
Welcome
back
Young,
thank
you.
So
now
we
will
proceed
to.
A
The
balance
of
the
housing
element
matters
thus
far.
We
have
made
no
changes.
Okay,
so
we'll
start
first
with
questions:
are
there
any
questions
from
the
council
about
any
other
item
painting
to
the
housing
element?
Actually,
staff?
Would
you
mind
lowering
the
the
presentation?
Thank
you,
councilmember
really.
K
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
I
wanted
to
ask
staff
pursuant
to
the
suggestions
that
we
had
relative
to
child
care.
Do
we
have
anything
in
our
housing
policies
that
provide
for
what
they
were
suggesting.
K
AD
I,
don't
believe
we
have
anything
specific
regarding
development
standards
about
child
care
as
a
facility
within
new
developments.
K
And
the
idea
of
the
on-site
Child
Care
is
a
traffic
mitigation
measure.
Do
we
have
anything
regarding
that.
AL
We
we
don't
I
would
say
that
that
would
be
more
appropriate
in
say
a
BMT
policy,
but
suddenly
we
have,
you
know
we
have
a
range
of
project
characteristics
that
we
plug
into.
You
know
various
tools
to
say
whether
they
reduce
VMT
or
not.
I,
don't
know
for
sure
whether
Child
Care
on
site
is
one
of
them,
although
a
mix
of
uses
certainly
could
be
so
you
know
that
that's
something
that
we
can
look
into
as
far
as
our
VMT
procedures
and
and
what
ultimately
results
in
vehicle
trip.
Productions.
K
Great
and
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
very
late
introduction
if
it,
if
it
fit
into
our
discussion
tonight
at
all,
but
I
I
just
did
want
to
catch
it
note
it
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
hear
from
a
lot
of
parents
in
the
community
is
that
they're
they're
getting
into
the
car
to
go
to
child
care
and,
and
so
some
some
development
of
policy
around
that
area,
I
think
would
be
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
H
H
First
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
about
programs
to
reduce
City
barriers
to
office
to
residential
conversions,
and
you
know
because
of
remote
work.
We
have
a
lot
of
office
vacancies
and
I've
heard
that
there
there
are
like
adaptive,
reuse,
ordinances
and
changes
in
taxes
like
land
value
taxes.
I
was
wondering.
I'm
I
was
wondering
if
staff
had
thought
about
that
at
all
and
had
any
suggestions
for
programming
related
to
office
to
housing,
conversions.
AL
So
I
know
this
actually
had
a
little
bit
of
discussion
during
the
North
Bay
Shore
and
East
Woodsman,
precise
plan
processes
and
I
believe
there's
some
language.
In
those
precise
plans
about
incentivizing
buildings
that
can
be
flexibly,
repurposed
I
would
imagine
that
it
might
be
harder
to
take
a
building
that
was
built
as
an
office
building
and
try
to
repurpose
it.
AL
It
might
be
easier
to
actually
build
a
building
that
can
be
flexible
reposed,
but
we
do
have
some
economic
consultants
in
the
room
and
maybe
I
can
ask
Stephanie
or
Bev
if
they
are
aware
of
any
office
to
residential
conversion
programs,
policies
or
incentives
that
that
they've
seen
in
other
cities.
AM
AM
I
don't
have
any
good
examples
off
my
hand
that
I
can
share
with
you
about
what
some
cities
that
are
working
on
this,
but
it's
definitely
something
that
we
can
look
into
and
report
back
on
sort
of
what
what
food
diversities
are
doing.
I
know
that
it's
a
Hot
Topic,
it's
just
all
a
little
bit
new
and
changing
and
evolving.
At
the
moment.
H
Okay,
well,
that's
good
to
hear
it
is
a
Hot,
Topic
and
I
want
to
keep
track
of
it.
I
don't
know
that
I
want
to
put
it
in
the
housing
element
right
now,
but
I
thought
I'd.
Take
the
opportunity
to
ask
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
the
question
about
the
Moffett
shopping
center.
Again.
Do
you
know,
does
Steph?
H
Is
this
the
right
place
to
ask
and
does
staff
think
that
that
you
know
that
that
the
way
it's
handled
right
now
it
would
retain
the
retail
or
what
internal
housing
and
might
we?
What
might
we
do
about
that.
AL
So,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
you
know
we
will
be
bringing
forward
in
January
to
the
council
our
draft
amendments,
which
the
EPC
already
recommended
to
the
to
the
zoning
ordinance,
which
include
required
retail
in
any
residential
Redevelopment
of
the
400
Moffett
site,
specifically,
which
is
the
site.
That's
in
the
site's
inventory.
AL
AL
So
so
any
retail
requirement
for
the
rest
of
Moffett
Boulevard
would
have
to
come
through
some
kind
of
Moffett
Boulevard
rezoning
I
know
that
that
kind
of
looking
at
options
for
that
was
on
the
council
were
planned
for
this
cycle
and
unfortunately,
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
it,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
the
council
can
continue
to
direct
staff
to
do
for
the
next
cycle.
B
K
Thank
you,
Miriam,
I'm,
sorry
to
be
so
hungry
for
questions
and
answers.
I
was
gone
for
quite
a
while
I
I'd
like
to
get
a
sense
from
staff
about.
K
If
the
issue
of
the
no
net
loss
were
to
be
included,
what
would
be
the
process
for
that?
Would
it
would
it
be
included
in
this
pass
at
things,
or
would
it
be
included
in
an
amendment
or
what
would
be
the
best
way
to
deal
with
that
and
and
how
developed
does
that
policy
need
to
be
to
to
get
this
kind
of
inclusion.
AL
K
AL
Okay,
so
we
do
have
a
no
net
loss
program
in
the
housing
element.
Where
we
do
a
couple
of
things
one
is.
We
lay
out
some
procedures
for
identifying
for
for
tracking
development
and
identifying
when
we
need
to
instigate
a
no-net
loss
process,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
that
program
includes
is
a
potential
list
of
areas
that
staff
or
the
council
could
consider
or
no
net
loss
rezoning,
and
you
know
that
we're
not
committed
to
any
of
those
and
council
could
direct
staff
to
start
with
one.
AL
Or
to
identify
still
other
areas
that
maybe
aren't
even
on
that
list,
so
it's
also
important
to
recognize
that
you
know
the
council
will
likely
continue
to
direct
staff
to
do
rezoning
actions
which
could
result
in
additional
housing
capacity
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
years,
and
it's
entirely
possible
that
those
changes
could
address
any
future
no-net
loss
issues
as
well.
K
Okay
and
just
a
follow-on
question,
would
that
address
the
replacement
of
any
rent
stabilized
units
that
are
lost.
AL
So
under
SB
330,
which
is
you
know,
the
law
of
the
land
through
you
know
7
8
or
maybe
even
slightly
more
of
this
housing
element
under
SB
330.
We
are
mandated
to
replace
rent
control
units,
rent
stabilized
units
in
new
development.
K
And,
and
that
is
just
until
2030.
K
Okay
and
and
I
saw
Miss
Hellman
didn't
sure,
come
on
the
the
call
did
she
have
I
wonder
if
she
might
have
some
comments
relative
to
that.
AN
Thanks
councilmember
leaver,
Michaela,
helmutenture,
housing,
division
manager,
I
just
wanted
to
add
I,
think
you
might
be
asking
a
bit
about
replacement
requirements
for
red
stabilized
units
that
are
facing
Demolition
and,
as
Ellen
mentioned
earlier
in
her
presentation,
staff
is
exploring
some
avenues
for
that
that
we
hope
to
bring
to
council
as
part
of
our
displacement
response
work
sometime
next
year
and
if
that
involved
any
amendments
to
the
housing
element.
AN
K
Okay,
so
it's
it
sounds
like
it
could
be
an
amendment
at
some
point
in
time,
but
it's
it's
not
fully
cooked.
Yet
if
I'm
understanding
it
that's.
AN
K
And
one
more
question:
if
I
may
mayor
under
the
the
list
of
of
sites,
there
was
discussion
of
Charleston
Plaza
in
in
the
Redevelopment
there
and
a
mentioned
that
in
June,
the
the
site
was
presented
to
city
council
for
discussion,
but
it
was
not
directed
for
inclusion.
K
AL
AL
K
Okay
and
if
we're
interested
in
housing
possibilities
there,
but
it's
it's
not
ready
to
be
considered
for
for
the
inventory
here-
is
there
some
way
that
we
can
indicate
that,
because
my
concern
is
that
we're
looking
at
other
places
around
town
that
have
kind
of
Lifeline
type
businesses
and
a
significant
segment
of
the
community
has
gotten
very
activated
around
the
possibilities.
What
would
happen
and
it's
it
seems
like?
K
That's-
that's
also
a
shopping
center
that
you
know,
I
I,
think
at
one
time
the
the
dog
boarding
there
could
have
kind
of
been
seen
as
as
a
Lifeline
business,
but
it
it
does
seem
like
a
place
and
I
know
that
there
was
some
discussion
around
housing
being
located
there.
So
what
would
the
process
be?
If,
if
we
wanted
to
indicate
interest
in
that.
AL
Sure
yeah
this
is
this-
is
one
of
the
other
areas
that
we
tee
up
as
an
alternate
program
in
the
staff
report,
other
rezoning
areas,
and
so,
if
Council
so
directs
in
that
discussion
for
a
question
two,
you
know
we
can
include
a
program
in
the
housing
element
to
rezone
Charleston,
Plaza,
okay,.
K
Okay
and
then
my
last
question,
I
swear
no
more
dipping
in
terms
of
the
mobile
home,
tenants
issue
that
that
came
up.
Where
is
the
best
place
for
them
to
take
that
issue,
to
start
to
get
get
movement
on
that.
K
Well,
my
my
understanding
of
what
was
mentioned
was
that
that
the
city
of
Antioch
has
a
cap
on
rent
increases
for
individuals
who
find
themselves
in
the
situation
where
they're
renting
both
the
mobile
home
and
the
space,
and
that
because
we
don't
have
that
Mountain
View,
that
they're
in
essence,
getting
double
increases
of
what
was
anticipated
and
and
so
I
just
like
to
know.
Where?
Should
they
take
that
kind
of
concern?
AN
We
can
bring
that
up
with
our
team
that
enforces
the
mobile
home,
rent
stabilization
ordinance
and
to
to
consider
and
and
look
into
probably
the
easiest
is
to
email,
MV,
rent
mountainview.gov,
but
they
are
also
welcome
to
contact
me
neighborhoods
at
mountainview.gov
and
we'll
get
them
to
the
right
folks
to
talk
to
okay.
AK
I
just
wanted
to
understand
the
question
council
member
Lieber.
Did
you
mean
to
say
if
the
city
were
to
proceed
down
a
path
of
changing?
What's
in
our
current
mobile
home,
rent
ordinance?
What
would
be
required
well.
K
Yes,
if,
if
our
current
policy
doesn't
address
that
situation,
where
households
are
facing
a
a
double
burden
of
an
increase
on
Space
rent
and
an
increase
on
on
rent
on
the
home,
what
are
their
options
for?
Who
who
should
they
go
to.
AK
Well,
this
would
mean
you
know,
based
on
what
I
understand
it
would
mean
revising
the
ordinance
to
reflect,
or
at
least
to
study
the
issue
and
I
would
say
this
would
probably
be
an
additional
work
program
item
that
the
council
may
consider
in
February.
AK
K
AK
A
I've
got
a
couple
of
hopefully
quick
questions.
Staff
had
mentioned
a
report
that
HC
was
seeking
additional
analysis
about
meeting
the
housing
needs
of
special
needs.
Populations
can
staffs
list
for
us,
those
special
needs
populations
and
what
type
of
analysis
you
might
produce.
AM
Yes,
thank
you.
Stephanie
Hager
be
a
European
economics,
so
the
special
needs
populations
that
HCB
is
looking
for.
Additional
analysis
on
is
the
it's
seniors:
persons
with
disabilities,
people
experiencing
homelessness,
Farm,
Workers,
large
families
and
single
parent
households,
and
what
they're
really
looking
for
there.
We
discussed
this
with
hcd
yesterday
is
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
things
that
these
households
need
from
their
from
their
housing.
AM
That's
sort
of
unique
from
what
other
households
tend
to
need,
so
some
discussion
around
you
know
say
seniors-
tend
to
have
higher
rates
of
households
that
have
a
member
with
disabilities
compared
to
other
households,
so
they
tend
to
need
accessibility
features
at
a
higher
rate.
AM
I'm
sorry
I
also
missed
extremely
low
income
household,
it's
another
another
group,
so
extremely
low-income
households
need
deeply
affordable
housing.
So
a
little
bit
of
discussion
around
you
know
for
each
of
those
groups.
What
some
of
their
particular
needs
are
and
then
connecting
that
to
the
way
that
the
city
is
addressing
those
specific
needs
among
those
houses.
A
Thank
you
and
then
once
we
produce
that
analysis,
hcd
can
come
back
and
say
you've
either
satisfactorily
addressed
those
needs
or
not,
and
you
have
to
add
sites
to
the
inventory
or
add
programs.
Is
that
right.
J
Yeah
I
really
like
the
slide
on
page
16..
Thank
you
for
putting
that
up.
That's
the
one
with
the
comments
from
hcd
from
the
meeting
yesterday.
That's
very
helpful
thanks
for
including
that
one
of
the
questions
I
have
on
this
is
describe
processing
procedures
in
more
detail.
I
believe
that
that
corresponds
to
things
that
we
would
do
to
improve
the
approval
process,
so
that
housing
would
be
easier
to
approve
and
get
built,
which
here
ties
into
our
Matrix
study
and
the
implementation
of
it.
AL
So
actually,
they
were
very
specific
in
the
meeting
and
we're
being
much
more
General
on
the
slide.
They
specifically
said
that
they
wanted
more
information
about
the
gatekeeper
process.
They
said
they
wanted
more
information
about
our
Landscaping
findings.
So
what
do
we
have
to
say
about
Landscaping
about
projects
as
we
approve
them
which
I
think
when
they
looked
at
our
findings?
It
looked
subjective
and
we're
only
allowed
to
apply
objective
standards.
So
we
need
to
connect
that
dot
for
them.
AL
Then
they
asked
us
for
more
information
about
our
the
specific
findings
that
were,
we
need
to
modify
for
our
reasonable
accommodations
and
the
the
direction
from
hcd
in
a
previous
draft
was
that
we
do
need
to
modify
our
reasonable
accommodations
findings
based
on
I
think
we
have
one
finding
for
that.
That's
around
you
know
impacting
surrounding
neighborhood
or
something
like
that,
and
we
actually
can't
have
that
finding.
So
we
have
to
tell
hcd
that
that's
what
we're
amending
we're
taking
out
that
finding.
AL
A
Any
remaining
questions:
if
there
are
no
questions,
then
what
we'll
do
is
take
a
a
round
of
comments
and
suggestions
for
revisions
and
that
once
I've
collected
all
of
those,
then
we'll
take
a
series
of
straw
votes.
The
way
we
had
in
the
previous
study
sessions,
any
comments
or
suggestions
for
revisions.
H
So
the
the
revision
that
I'm
trying
around
with
in
my
head
is
the
The
Moffat
shopping
center,
whether
we
should
keep
it
in
the
site,
inventory
or
remove
it,
because
if
and
when
we
do
the
precise
plan
we
can
handle
it,
you
know
in
a
in
a
better
way
through
that
you
know
maybe
producing
better
outcomes
both
in
terms
of
Housing
and
in
terms
of
retail
in
the
area.
So
I'd
kind
of
like
to
take
the
temperature
of
the
the
Council
on
that.
What
what
other
people
think.
AC
E
Thank
you,
mayor,
yeah,
I,
I
agree
with
vice
mayor
I,
think
you
know,
we've
had
the
muffet
precise
plan
in
frankly,
it
was
in
our
general
Plan
update
and
we
just
never
got
to
it,
but
I
hope
that
we
can
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
better
process
to
to
work
on
it
separately.
Thanks.
A
Thank
you
and
and
council
member,
because
I
feel
free
also
to
make
your
own
General
comments
and
any
suggestions
you'd
like
to
make
just
so
we
can
I
I'm
going
to
take
or
keep
track
of
all
of
the
revisions
and
then
we'll
do
we'll
take
them
all
together
with
the
straw
stuff.
That's
just
to
try
and
keep
things
going
expeditiously.
J
I
do
feel
that
if
we
could
do
it
through
a
Moffitt,
precise
plan,
that
would
be
better,
but
we
all
know
we
might
not
be
able
to
so
I
think
this
is
kind
of
protective.
Let's
leave
it
where
it
is
and
if
we
are
able
to
do
it
with
a
mafia,
precise
plan
which
we
all
intend
to
and
hope
will
happen,
then
that's
better.
J
And
if
we're
not,
it's
still
better
to
have
it
in
here
and
and
mentioned
as
a
place
where
we
want
to
maintain
retail
and
also
maybe
have
some
housing
than
not.
AL
Thank
you,
council,
member
I
I
just
wanted
to
mention
on
the
line
of
this
conversation
that
the
the
rezoning
of
400,
Moffett
Boulevard,
which
is
the
site
in
the
inventory,
is
going
to
come
before
Council
on
January
24th,
and
it
will
come
before
council
with
a
requirement
as
part
of
the
rezoning
for
ground
floor
retail.
So
I
guess
I'd
just
like
to
understand.
AL
H
So
I
was
talking
about
not
including
in
the
inventory,
but
do
you
think,
but
I
also,
you
know
I
asked
the
question
earlier
and
maybe
I
wasn't
clear
on
your
answer
about
whether
that
do
you
think
that
that
rezoning
is
protective.
Enough
of
of
you
know
that
maybe
it's
protective
enough,
so
we
leave
it
in,
is
that
what
you're
is?
H
Is
that,
where
you're
going
with
this
leave
it
in
the
site
inventory
or
what
you
know,
what
would
be
the
better
protection
I
would
think
it
would
be
better
to
do
it
in
the
context
of
an
overall
Market
precise
plan.
But
there
is
the
question
of
if
and
when
we
get
to
that.
AL
Yeah,
so
the
the
best
protection
for
requiring
retail
is
rezoning
it
in
January,
whether
it's
in
the
site
inventory
or
not,
actually
has
no
bearing
on
whether
the
retail
will
be
required
in
any
future.
Redevelopment.
E
Thank
you.
Could
you
clarify
Mr
Anderson,
so
rezoning
is
coming
to
us
in
January
for
the
400
site
for
him
off.
It
is
then
the
I
guess
the
max
density
being
requested
being
included
in
the
inventory
or
I
guess
like
yeah.
Could
you
clarify
like
what
would
be
included.
AK
If
I
may
just
Eric,
if
you
can
just
explain
what
is
coming
to
Council
in
January,
specifically
they're,
all
the
rezonings
that
are
required
for
the
sites
in
the
housing
element
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
maybe
we
can
explain
the
specifics
under
model.
AL
Who
are
and-
and
it's
not
just
the
sites
that
are
required
for
the
site's
inventory?
It's
also
you
know
these
General
plan
Village
centers,
some
of
which
are
in
the
inventory,
but
not
all
of
them
where
there
has
been
this
inconsistency
between
the
general
plan
and
the
zoning,
as
well
as
concern
from
the
community
about
preserving
the
retail.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
putting
in
place
the
retail
preservation
standards
and
the
public
open
space
standards.
AL
Everything
else
that
that
the
community
is
looking
for
in
these
Channel
plan,
Village
centers,
so
the
what
is
coming
to
Council
in
January
is
several
rezoning
actions.
Some
of
them
are
related
to
proactively
rezoning,
affordable
housing
sites,
so
they
can
have
a
streamlined
review
process.
AL
One
is
related
to
up
zoning
or
removing
an
overlay
requirement
in
the
El
Camino
Real
precise
plan,
so
that
sites
near
major
intersections
and
where
retail
is
required
on
the
El
Camino
Real
precise
fund
can
actually
reach
their
maximum
densities
in
the
El
Camino
precise
plan.
This
is
another
General
plan
and
zoning
and
consistency
and,
of
course,
the
general
plan.
AL
Village
centers,
where
we're
taking
the
existing
100
Commercial
zoning
and
applying
taking
the
the
general
plan
Direction,
which
allows
residential
on
these
sites
and
creating
a
building
type
that
will
have
both
residential
and
Retail,
and
that's
how
you
build
residential
in
these
Channel
planes.
A
Which
means
this
might
be
a
pretty
quick
meeting.
I'll
oh
councilmember
leaver
go
ahead.
K
Thank
you
sorry
mayor,
so
I
I
just
want
to
just
want
to
confirm
my
understanding
on
the
Charleston
Plaza,
so
the
if,
if
we
are
interested
in
housing,
their
the
the
better
thing
to
do
is
to
wait
until
longer
in
the
process
and
not
try
to
include
that.
At
this
juncture,.
AL
So
I
I
won't
say,
have
a
value
judgment
about.
What's
better
or
worse,
you
know
in
the
staff
recommendation
we
we
do
or
on
the
staff
report.
We
do
have
a
recommendation
to
not
incur
any
additional
environmental
review,
get
our
housing
element
adopted
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
make
any
changes
afterward
or
we
can
simply
proceed
with
the
rezoning.
We
don't
have
to
include
a
rezoning
in
the
housing
element
to
do
it
now.
There
could
be
reasons
why
council
members
might
want
to
include
rezonings
in
the
housing
element.
AL
For
example,
it's
it's
a
commitment
to
the
state.
It
gives
us
more
certainty
with
hcd
and,
among
other
reasons
so
I
won't
say,
which
is
better,
but
there
are
certainly
reasons
to
to
do
so
and
not
to
do
so.
K
Okay,
well,
mayor
I
I'd,
be
very
interested
to
hear
from
other
council
members
it.
It
seems
very
much
like
we've
kind
of
put
a
lot
of
activation
into
other
sites
around
town
that
are,
you
know,
very
close
to
housing
and
that
that
have
either
the
the
supermarket
or
you
know,
various
things
that
that
people
rely
on
in
their
everyday
lives.
K
The
hardware
store
the
veterinarian
and
it
seems
it
seems
counter-intuitive
that
we
wouldn't
include
Charleston
Plaza
when
it
is
a
very
large
site
and
isn't
disruptive
of
a
Village,
Center
or
someone's
walkability
or
someone's
access
to
a
now
rare
business,
under
our
impacted,
economic
and
and
availability
of
of
real
estate
situation
that
that
we're
in
there's
a
very
large
parking
lot
there
that
was
used
for
multiple
uses.
There
is
a
legacy
roofing
company
that
is
is
right.
K
Next
door,
that's
very
old
and
maybe
at
some
point
will
will
no
longer
be
there
and
and
I
know
when
I
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
the
the
applicant
way
back
when
they
were
saying
well,
the
all
all
of
this
very
large
space
at
the
front
of
this
site
could
be
used
for
a
dog
park
for
the
the
r
d
employees,
or
it
could
be
a
place
for
r
d
employees
to
eat
lunch
or
walk
or
anything
like
that.
K
But
but
if
there
is
a
possibility,
even
if
it's
not
included
in
this
pass
at
the
housing
element,
I
I
think
it
just
makes
sense
to
be
looking
at
this
site.
K
I
I'd
love
to
know
if
there's
anybody
else,
who's
like-minded
on
this.
A
Thank
you,
it
is,
it
is
on
the
list,
so
we
will.
We
will
consider
all
of
these
at
the
very
end,
probably
Focus.
E
Thank
you,
I
guess,
I'm
inclined
not
to
include
it
mainly
for
the
reason
that
it
looks
like
we
have
a
current
application,
and
you
know
these
the
how
the
sites
really
have
to
be
realistic,
that
right,
we're
looking
at
the
eight-year
span,
so
I
think
it'd
just
be
a
hard
hard
to
convince
hcd
that
this
is
a
you
know,
site
that
could
be
redeveloped
in
the
next
eight
years,
if
there's
already
an
application
to
rehab
the
buildings
into
an
art
r
d
facility,
so
yeah
for
that
I
I.
E
Just
don't
think
it's
the
time,
the
right
timing
to
to
do
that
and
I'm
I'm.
Just
specifically,
you
know
for
this
evening
we're
talking
about
the
housing
element
and
I'll
just
say
you
know,
General
comments,
I'm,
fine
with
what
staff
has
provided.
My
interest
is
to
get
the
housing
element
accepted
as
quickly
as
possible
so
that
we
don't
have
any
repercussions
for
not
getting
one
approved
on
time,
and
so,
whatever
the
whatever
the
option
is
and
having
getting
a
little
confused.
E
But
my
real
interest
is
to
just
get
a
housing
element
done
and
so
I
don't
want
to
add
anything
that
would
mean
we'd
have
to
do
an
eir
or
that
would
take
longer
I.
You
know,
I
think,
from
what
I've
been
seeing
and
at
the
like,
the
buff
level
and
MTC
I
I
do
see
that
working
with
HCC
staff
in
an
iterative
process
and
back
and
forth
is
the
best
way
to
get
the
housing
element
approved.
E
So
I
would
you
know,
just
want
to
support
staff
in
continuing
that
it
sounds
like
you
know.
Steph
is
already
doing
that
and
the
more
conversation
that
staff
can
have
with
hcd.
We
have
a
better
sense
of
what
they
want
and
we
can
respond
to
that.
And
so
you
know
that
that
seems
like
the
process
that
we
should
follow
so
whatever
yes,
so
let's
just
get
it
done.
This
is
the
option
that
I
would
like
to
go
with.
Thank
you.
H
L
Great
thanks
so
mayor,
maybe
you
can
clarify
so
I
know
we
had
the
list
of
different
questions,
just
wondering
where
we
are
now.
A
L
L
I
did
have
some
interest
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
people
were
interested
stock
provided
language
on
page
20
of
the
staff
report
about
looking
into
committing
to
or
eliminating
or
reducing
parking
requirements.
Broadly,
if
possible,
I
had
interest.
I
know
that
there's
State
legislation,
that's
moving
that
way.
Anyways
and
we
already
don't
require
it
and
I.
L
Think
someone
from
the
public
comments
spoke
about
that
for
100,
affordable
housing
that
might
not
get
a
majority
of
votes,
but
I
do
have
some
interest
and
then
I
I
know
that
we
had
some
conversations
about
the
affh
kind
of
obligations,
and
so
it
would
just
say
to
have
staff
continue
to
kind
of
clarify
and
talk
about
how
that
metric
is
being
used
and
then
only
two
other
things.
L
These
are
not
additions,
but
you
know,
as
I
was
reviewing
things
it
I'm
heartened
that
we're
looking
at
our
middle
income,
housing
strategies
and
our
displacement
strategies,
I
think
that
that's
an
area
and
those
are
programs
that
will
be
kind
of
really
complementary
as
we
go
forward.
So
those
are
my
comments
thanks.
I
Thank
you,
as
I
said
earlier,
I'm,
mostly
interested
in
making
sure
we
have
a
compliant
housing
element
as
best
as
we
can
and
so
I'm
not
interested
in
making
any
other
changes
to
the
current
draft
that
we
have
and
I
think
that's
consistent
with
what
council
member
abekova
said.
So
that's
the
direction
I
also
want
to
go.
Thank
you.
J
B
J
Sorry,
you're,
coming
in
and
out
a
little
bit,
yeah
I
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
am
really
interested
in
getting
the
hcd
draft
done
without
having
to
recirculate
the
eir.
That
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
and
effort
and
I
think
that's
sort
of
like
the
cusp.
We
cannot
go
over.
You
know
we
can
add
things
until
then
we
get
there,
but
but
we
don't
want
to.
J
We
don't
want
to
push
that,
but
generally
I
I
would
say
that
I'm
happy
with
the
things
that
are
in
here,
but
I'm,
not
so
happy
with
some
of
the
things
I
feel
aren't
in
here
as
well
as
I
would
like
to
see
them,
and
that
is
really
the
you
know
getting
rid
of
the
barriers
to
getting
housing
built
when
we
talk
to
developers
and
we
talk
to
people
in
the
community
who
try
and
remodel
their
homes
and
that
sort
of
thing
we
hear
again
and
again
about
how
long
it
takes-
and
you
know
time
is
money,
it
costs
more
and
it's
a
deterrent,
whether
it's
money
or
not,
I
mean
just
it.
J
It's
so
that's
something
I!
You
know
I
know
that,
most
of
that
we
are
doing
as
part
of
the
implementation
of
the
Matrix
report
and
it's
not
really
in
the
housing
element,
but
that's
something
that
I'm
very
very
concerned
with
moving
forward
on
because
it
affects
our
community
a
great
deal,
and
so,
even
if
we
don't
have,
we
don't
put
it
in
this
housing
element
explicitly
sounds
like
there's
going
to
be
descriptions
in
it,
but
it's
maybe
not
as
explicit
as
some
of
us
would
like.
J
Then
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
that's
the
thing
I
I
worry
the
most
about,
because
we
do
really
have
some
barriers
too
to
getting
housing
done
and,
and
none
of
them
are
easy.
You
know
they're
all
really
really
complex
things
to
deal
with
that
are
embedded
in
our
policies
and
staff.
J
You
know
Staffing
levels
and
all
sorts
of
things,
so
I
I
just
but
that's
that's.
My
general
feeling
is
I'm
happy
when
what
with
what's
in
here,
I'm
a
little
disappointed
with
what
isn't
in
here
with
respect
to
removing
the
barriers
to
Housing
Development.
A
I'm
going
to
take
a
quick
turn,
I
think
I
think
you
know
I
I
I,
don't
disagree
with
the
sentiment
that
we
should
strive
for
compliance.
I,
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
many
cities
are
struggling
to
achieve
compliance
and
I.
Think
a
good
metric
that
we
might
want
to
be
sensitive
to
is
the
southern
Association
of
governments,
which
is
about
a
year
ahead
of
us
in
the
process
and
looking
at
the
hcd
website
and
staff.
A
Please
fact
check
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
a
year
later,
45
of
Scag
jurisdictions
are
out
of
compliance
one
year
later
and
so
I
think
we
should
anticipate
a
likelihood
that
you
know
productive
conversations
with
hcd
staff
notwithstanding
I'm
guessing
many
of
those
Scag
jurisdictions
are
doing
the
same
thing
and
talking
to
hcd
staff.
We
might
need
a
third
revision
or
a
fourth
revision
a
year
later,
I'm
I
would
be
surprised
if
no
one
has
picked
up
on
ours.
Our
special
trip,
so
I
I,
don't
share
the
optimism
that
staff
has.
A
A
The
other
thing
I'll
share
is
I,
I
feel
pretty
strongly.
This
is
something
I
talked
about
in
the
last
study
sessions.
In
my
mind,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
a
deep
dive
and
understand
and
try
to
address
the
housing
needs
of
our
community
and
I.
Don't
feel
like
we're
we're
doing
that.
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
strive
for
compliance
and
and
not
incorporate
everything
that
we're
hearing
from
our
community
I.
Don't
want
hcd
staff
to
write
our
housing
element.
A
I
want
our
community
to
write
our
housing
element
and
I'm
concerned
that
that's
not
the
approach
that
we're
taking.
There
are
a
couple
of
things.
I
did
want
to
suggest.
I'll
just
add
them
to
the
list
and
then
we'll
do
all
the
polls.
If
there's
something
else,
I
feel
that
it's
very
difficult
to
incredibly
include
950
West,
El
Camino
and
the
site's
inventory,
the
Luna
Vista
Apartments.
Those
have
been
occupied
for
a
year.
A
We
have
the
grand
opening
in
May
and
it
it
is
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
credibly,
say
this
is
a
site
that
is
going
to
pertain
to
the
next
eight
years
of
housing
planning,
so
I
do
think
we
should
remove
that
site
from
the
site's
inventory.
I
feel
very
similarly
about
the
other
projects
that
are
complete,
that
are
constructed,
and
you
know
either
fully
or
partially
occupied.
A
I
think
they're
very
difficult
to
include
and
those
other
sites
are
predominantly
market
rate
housing
and
knowing
that,
based
on
the
staff
presentation,
we
have
a
greater
than
100
buffer
for
affordable,
sorry
for
market
rate
housing.
Those
could
be
removed
pretty
safely,
because
our
buffer
will
still
remain
very
substantial
and
it
will
just
clean
up
the
site's
inventory,
because
the
site's
inventory,
in
my
mind,
is
about
planning
for
growth
and
not
County
fit
cycle
units
that
are
constructed
and
partially
occupied,
I
also
struggle
with
1500,
North,
Shoreline
and
staff.
A
Correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I,
think
we're
looking
at
2
000
units
there
I
don't
know
if,
in
the
history
of
our
city,
we've
had
a
2
000
unit
project,
or
at
least
not
one
that
didn't
also
have
a
development
agreement
and
I
think
I
don't
feel
like
we
should
remove
it
from
the
sites.
Inventory
I
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
site,
but
I
think
we
need
to
put
in
place
some
more
credible
parameters
and
so
I
think
applying
a
discount
like
what
we've
done
with
the
shopping
centers
makes
sense.
A
A
Think
a
good
starting
point
is
city-owned
property,
city-owned
land
I
think
those
are
good
sites
to
include
because
they
are
in
resource-rich
areas
and
thinking
about
the
surface,
parking
lots
in
downtown
and
we
can
explore,
but
there
might
be
others
that
we
have
total
control
over.
A
So
that
might
be
something
and
actually
I
might
need
to
when
we
vote
on
that,
we
might
need
to
segment
that,
depending
on
the
city,
attorney's
recommendation,
but
it's
something
I
think
we
have
to
consider
and
I
think
that
was
everything
in
my
list.
Oh
there's
one
other
actually
and
that
has
to
do
with
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
from
stakeholder
groups
saying
that
the
housing
element
draft
is
just
not
an
accessible
document.
It's
very
technical,
the
the
narrative
is,
it's
really
hard
to
understand
and
I.
A
We've
had
a
number
of
people
who
so
I
really
appreciate
staff,
making
the
document
available
in
Spanish
and
Chinese-
that's
phenomenal,
but
what
I've
heard
from
Spanish-speaking
groups
predominantly
is
thank
you
for
doing
that.
But
it's
a
very
Arcane
document
to
go
through
very,
very
challenging,
and
some
of
that
we
can't
fix,
but
some
of
it
we
might
be
able
to
help
make
a
little
bit
more
accessible.
So
I
think
that's
direction
that
we
should.
A
We
should
consider-
including
too,
in
my
apologies,
if
I'm
slowing
down
a
little
bit,
I
might
need
to
take
a
quick
trip
to
urgent
care
after
this
are.
Is
there
anything
else
that
we
that
we
need
to
add
to
the
list
of
things
will
take
straw,
motions
for.
C
A
AC
C
Sorry,
I'm
pausing,
that's
a
it's.
It
seems
like
a
very
high
level
question
that
would
probably
be
okay.
AL
Since
the
mayor
specifically
mentioned
parking,
lots,
downtown
I
believe
he
specifically
mentioned
parking
lots
downtown.
There
is
a
parking
lot
that
is
within
a
thousand
feet
of
both
counts.
Vice
mayor
Hicks
and
council,
member
ABI
Koga.
C
M
Thank
you
mayor
and
council
members,
so
we
have
a
number
of
city-owned
parking
lots.
Some
of
them
have
future
intended
uses
which
may
include
other
development
projects
that
we
are
in
development
agreements
with
right
now,
one
that's
under
agreement
for
affordable
housing.
As
you
all
know,
another
one
that's
going
to
be
used
as
a
potential
staging
for
our
public
safety
building,
and
there
is
one
lot
that
is
the
closest
to
the
council
member's
residences.
I
can't
remember
the
the
number
of
that
lot.
M
Six
is
that
six,
seven,
okay,
so
I
think
that
would
probably
be
the
only
one
that
is
within
a
thousand
feet.
But
if
council
is
going
to
give
direction
about
City
own
Lots,
I
think
it
should
be
very
broad
because
we
do
have,
as
I
said
intended
uses
for
some
of
those
law
thoughts
and
we
would
not
consider
them
as
being
available,
although
there
could
be
others
that
might
be
available.
So
I
would
just
ask
for
direction.
M
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
would
be
okay
with
that.
If
that
is
General
enough,
I
would
look
to
our
assistant
city
manager,
community
development,
director
or
or
our
Advanced
planning
manager,
to
confirm
if
that
language
is
okay.
A
Thank
you
any
remaining
questions
or
comments.
A
Okay,
then
councilman
Robbie,
Koga.
E
I
mean
I
I'll
just
make
a
comment.
I
I
I
won't
be
able
to
support
that,
as
mentioned
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
considerations
as
we
you
know.
We've
talked
about
the
growth
of
our
city
and
the
needed
infrastructure
to
sustain
that
growth,
and
you
know
we
talked
about
things
like
libraries
and
and
we
still
need
the
parking
as
we
even
staging
for
the
transit
center.
E
So
you
know
all
of
that
or
planning
to
do
in
the
next
10
years,
or
so
we
have
to
do
the
public
safety
building,
so
I
I
think
it's.
There
are
other
uses
that
I
think
we
need
to
discuss,
and
you
know
we
have
to
add
more
facilities,
more
infrastructure.
It's
you
know
the
easiest
for
us
to
do
with
city-owned
land
and
so
I
I.
Just
don't
want
I
want
us
to
have
the
flexibility
and
to
have
that
conversation
first
before
we
start
adding
city-owned
sites
onto
the
inventory
at
this
thanks.
K
Yes,
I'd
like
to
take
a
straw
poll
on
the
very
broad
way
of
looking
at
at
city-owned
properties
and
and
bringing
back
information
about
them
and
and
if
it
fits
to
list
them
amongst
our
our
back
pocket
sites
on
a
conceptual
basis
and
I.
Think
that
gives
us
the
freedom
to
you
know
bring
back
whatever.
The
complications
are
later.
A
So
I
I'm,
okay
with
that
I
I,
was
going
to
consider
this
going
through
one
by
one
each
of
the
items,
and
that
would
be
one
of
the
items
under
consideration
and
that
way
we
can
provide
the
direction
that
staff
needs
a
manager.
You
have
your
hand
up.
M
A
Oh
I'm,
going
to
read
skills
that
I
probably
will
not
come
back.
If
we
do
that,
I'm
feeling
the
unreal
unwell,
I'd
like
to
go
through
the
votes,
because.
H
Yeah
I'm
just
I'm
struggling
a
little
with
the
things
that
we're
voting
on
because
they
seem
to
be,
and
maybe
this
is
clarified
enough,
but
the
way
you
raised
it,
it
was
just
city-owned
blocks
and
I,
don't
know,
I,
guess,
council,
member
leave
the
Lieber
brought
that
forward.
A
little
more
could
be
something
like
a
program
to
evaluate
the
possibility
of
City
on
Lots,
but
it's
so
vague
to
me
that
at
this
point
that
I
don't
I'm
unclear
on
what
process
we're
voting
for.
H
It
was
a
little
more
clear
when
council
member
labor
clarified
it,
but
yeah
some
of
these
come
out
as
very
vague
processes.
A
The
the
specific
recommendation
was,
in
the
event
that
hcd
provides
in
its
comment
letter
directions
for
the
city
to
take
additional
actions
to
comply
with
the
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
requirement.
If
we
are
required
to
do
that
by
ACD,
then
we
would
prioritize
or
consider
prioritizing
city-owned
land
and
those
High
resource
areas,
and
that
would
give
staff
the
direction
to
include
those
in
the
site's
inventory,
if
they're
needed
for
affh
purposes,.
A
Okay,
try
and
run
through
this
as
best
if
I
can
so
the
first
I
heard
was-
and
this
I
think
was
an
informational
request
from
council
member
kimay,
but
basically
a
better
understanding
of
the
affh
metrics
pertaining
to
the
white
non-white
populations.
A
So
staff
I
don't
know
if
you
need
direction
on
that.
Well,
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
a
vote.
I
think
that
how
that
how
staff
interprets
that
I
think
is
open
to
consideration,
it
could
be
come
back
with
information
about
that.
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
let
council
member
kameh
explain
it,
because
I
think
she
can
do
a
better
job
than
I
can
right
now.
L
So
my
mine
was
just
that
that
staff
would
continue
to
talk
to
hcd
about
it.
Given
the
concerns
that
you
had
raised
mayor
I
think
we
both
kind
of
brought
forward
the
nuanced
issue
of
using
that
metric,
those
metrics
and
those
data,
and
so
just
that
was
my
recommendation-
was
for
staff
to
continue
to
kind
of
clarify
and
to
continue
having
that
conversation
kind
of
given
the
concerns
you're
bringing
up
about
wanting
to
make
sure
we
have
additional
site
inventory
I
just
wanted
to.
L
That
was
the
other
side
of
the
the
issue.
To
me.
A
No
problem,
thank
you
and
then
there
was
a
recommendation
to
consider
or
to
as
a
program
the
elimination
of
parking
requirements
for
100,
affordable
housing.
Is
there
support
for
that
recommendation.
Raise
your
hand
two
three
okay,
that
does
not
have
a
major
or
four
one.
Two
three
four
you
keep
your
hands
up.
Just
so
I
can
demonstrate
that
there
is
a
majority
one,
two,
three
four.
So
yes
thank
you.
So
there
is
majority
support
to
add
a
program
to
eliminate
parking
requirements
for
100,
affordable
housing.
A
There
was
a
suggestion
to
add
Charleston
Plaza
a
site
inventory.
Is
that
correct,
councilmember,
Lieber?
Okay,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
vote
for
that.
I
had
Charleston
Plaza
to
the
site's
inventory.
There
are
two
votes,
so,
unfortunately,
not
a
majority
and
then
I
had
a
couple.
A
First
was
to
remove
950
West
El
Camino
Real
from
the
sites
inventory
as
it
is,
as
it
has
been
constructed
and
is
occupied
and
has
been
occupied
for
a
year,
which
is
support
for
removing
950
West
El
Camino
from
the
sites
inventory
one
two
three.
There
is
not
support
for
that.
A
It
was
so
I
I'd
also
suggested
applying
a
reasonable
discount
to
the
1500
North
Shoreline
property,
in
anticipation
of
the
unlikelihood,
that
it
will
actually
be
built
out
with
two
thousand
units
in
the
next
eight
years.
A
A
And
then
a
recommendation
in
the
event
that
hcd
finds
our
ass-h
proposals
in
the
site's
inventory
insufficient.
Then
we
would
consider
prioritizing
City
owned
land
to
help
meet
those
asfh
obligations.
A
I'm
not
seeing
any
hands
raised
so
just
to
recap:
the
we're
comfortable
with
the
housing
element
and
we've
added
direction
to
include
a
program
to
eliminate
parking
requirements
for
100,
affordable
housing
to
apply
some
reasonable
discount
to
the
1500
North
Shoreline
property
staff
will
determine
what
that
may
be
and
then
to
consider
city-owned
land
in
the
event
that
we
have
not
met
our
affordable.
Sorry,
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
obligations
based
on
the
next
hcd
comment
letter.
A
Okay
staff
is
there
anything
else
that
you
need
from
the
council.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
work
on
this
I'm
gonna
move
to
continue
the
meeting
past
10
pm
they're
a
second
accounts
member.
Can
they
thank
you
and
then
we'll
have
to
do
a
roll
call
vote.
A
Thank
you
that
passes
we're
going
to
proceed
to
item
eight
Council
staff
committee
reports,
I'm
gonna,
sign
off
I
wish
you
all
the
best
happy
holidays.
Thank
you
all
for
your
work.
Take
care.
H
I
think
I
do
yes,
okay
and
I
assume
that
we're
now
moving
into
item
seven
but
I
see
two
hands
up
so
I'm
wondering
we're.
H
E
Thank
you
vice
mayor
I
want
to
report
out
that
last
week,
I
was
invited
by
the
center
on
budget
and
policy
priorities.
It's
a
like
a
think
tank
in
Washington
DC
to
speak
on
a
panel
at
their
annual
conference.
The
panel
was
the
topic
was
advancing
best
practices
for
Community
engagement
and
transparency
and
spending
arpa
funds,
and
they
specifically
asked
me
to
share
about
our
guaranteed
basic
income
program
pilot
program.
So
I
had
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
I
was
on
a
panel
with
a
gentleman
from
St
Louis.
E
They
also
have
a
guaranteed
gbi
program
pilot
program
that
they're
running
as
well
as
a
state
representative
from
Massachusetts.
So
it
was
a
conversation
about
how
cities
are
when
states
are
spending
our
dollars.
There's
still
dollars
to
be
spent.
You
know,
fellow,
how
can
we
engage
the
community
to
make
sure
that
the
funding
is
being
spent
on
what
the
community's
needs
are
and
every
time
I
go
to
these
conferences,
whether
it
was
the
NLC
or
this
I
always
come
back
feeling
very
fortunate
for
where
we
live?
E
You
know
spending
the
dollars
in
ways
to
to
support,
especially
disadvantaged
neighborhoods
and
communities,
so
yeah
I
I
would
say
that
they
were
there's
a
lot
of
Envy
for
Mountain
View
and
what
you
know
I
shared
about,
though
in
terms
of
what
we
have
been
able
to
do
through
the
through
covid,
with
all
the
all
the
covid
relief
funds.
So
I.
You
know,
I
had
to
ask
like
how
they
came
across
Mountain
View
and
the
organizer
was
specifically
looking
for
a
gbi
program
in
California
and
apparently
they
came
across
our
program.
E
So
that
was
how
they
they
discovered
us,
and
it
was
heartening
to
hear
there
was
a
man
from
New
Hampshire
who
mentioned
that
he
had
even
read
about
our
program,
so
we're
going
National,
which
is
really
exciting.
So
I
think
we
have
a
lot
to
be
proud
of.
Thank
you.
I
Thanks
and
just
want
to
report
that
we
had
a
meeting
of
the
interim
Pedestrian
Mall
on
Castro,
the
ad
hoc
committee
I
think
we
had
a
great
discussion
about
a
number
of
things
and
there
was
a
lot
of
good
public
input
and
that's
going
to
be
coming
to
councils,
which
I
think
it's
exciting
to
see
the
plans
that
are
being
put
in
place.
Thanks.
K
You
vice
mayor,
well,
I,
have
got
an
item
of
general
interest,
I
think
to
everyone,
and
it
is
to
report
that
I
sent
a
letter
into
the
city
council
today,
resigning
from
Council,
effective,
December
30th,
which
is
the
date
that
I
anticipate
accepting
my
oath
office
as
a
member
of
the
State
Board
of
Equalization,
and
while
the
election
of
State
constitutional
officers
has
not
yet
been
certified.
K
K
Now,
when
I
ran
for
Board
of
Equalization,
I
said
that
I
would
that
it
was
my
intention
to
continue
on
Council
if
I
could
and
I
feel
like
now,
we've
made
a
good
faith
effort
to
examine
that,
and
while
there
is
no
direct
incompatibility
between
the
offices,
there
is
a
conflict
based
on
a
piece
of
Telecom
equipment
that
exists
in
Mountain
View,
that
the
Board
of
Equalization
assesses
an
ad
valorem
taxon.
K
So
it
is
not
possible
for
me
to
continue
on
Council
and
I,
have
to
pick
and
choose
between
two
offices
and
that's
really
an
embarrassment
of
riches,
but
I
will
still
be
in
Mountain
View
and
will
still
be
available
to
everyone,
including
our
community
groups,
and
I,
really
encourage
all
those
who
have
supported
me
so
much
to
get
involved
in
the
process
now
and
to
help
determine
what
our
next
Council
looks
like.
So
thank
you.
So
much.
H
H
And
so
are
there
any
other
Council
staff
committee
reports,
city
manager,
McCarthy.
M
Thank
you
vice
mayor
and
council
member
Lieber
I
would
just
like
to
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
residents
of
Mountain
View
and
for
all
of
your
support
of
City
staff.
Over
these
last
few
years,
it's
been
a
tremendous
support
for
staff,
always
having
the
encouraging
words
and
really
understanding
I.
M
Think
where
some
of
the
the
push
and
pull
is
with
the
desire
to
do
a
lot
of
great
work
and
then
have
not
necessarily
always
having
the
resources
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
for
your
service
to
the
community
and
your
supportive
staff
and
wish
you
all
the
best
in
your
journey.
On
The
Board
of
Equalization,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
service.
H
Yes,
I,
second,
that
and
you'll
continue
to
serve
us
anyway,
I'm
sure
you're,
you're,
you're,
fully
elected.
So
now
we
move
to
item
nine
closed
session
report,
City
attorney
Logue.
Do
you
have
a
closed
session
report.
C
Thank
you
vice
mayor
Hicks,
this
is
Jennifer
Logue,
City
attorney.
No,
there
are
no
closed
session
reports
this
evening.