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From YouTube: 4-19-2021 - Mountain Rental Housing Committee Meeting
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Live teleconference meeting of the Mountain View Rental Housing Committee Meeting scheduled for Monday, April 19, 2021.
Live Video Conference: YouTube, mountainview.legistar.com, and Comcast Channel 26.
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A
937-7306-8363
any
email
received
by
5
pm
today
were
forwarded
to
the
rental
housing
committee.
Emails
received
after
5
pm
will
not
be
read
during
the
meeting
but
will
be
entered
into
the
record
for
the
meeting.
Now
I
will
proceed
with
roll
call
committee,
member
matthew,
general
michael
here
committee
member
julian
pardo
gazella.
A
Committee
member
guadalupe
present
committee
member
nicole
haynes
libsay
president
by
sheriff
allman
howdy,
and
I
am
here.
We
will
now
begin
with
a
presentation
of
the
ceremonial
oath
of
office
for
the
rhc
numbers.
Please
allow
one.
Please
welcome
wanda
wong
from
the
city
clerk's
office
to
swear
in
the
new
members.
C
Thank
you
to
all
those
taking
the
oath
tonight.
Can
you
please
raise
your
right
hand
or
repeat
after
me,
I
I
I
your
name
nicole
haynes,
let's
say
do
some
swear,
do
solemnly
certainly
swear
or
affirm
that
I
will
support
and
defend
the
support
of
defending
attend
the
constitution.
United
states,
the
constitution.
C
Thank
you.
I
will
mail,
you
out
the
oath
of
office
and
if
you
can
just
return
it
to
me,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
I'm
welcome.
A
Welcome
everyone
all
right
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
minutes
approval,
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item.
If
so,
please
click
the
raised
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains.
A
So
this
is
only
about
4.1,
which
is
the
minutes
or
3.1
3.1.
A
I
see
no
comments.
So
motion
is
in
order
and
a
motion
to
approve
should
include
the
following
items
approved
minutes
for
march
22nd,
2020
rhc
meeting.
Do
we
have
a
motion.
A
All
right
next
up,
we
have
oral
communications
from
the
public.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
committee
on
any
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes.
During
this
section.
State
law
prohibits
the
community
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
non-agenda
items?
A
I
see
two
hands
up
during
for
public
comment.
I'll
start
with
edie
keating.
H
H
It
remains
my
goal
to
attend
the
vast
majority
of
these
meetings.
However,
tonight
is
one
night
when
I
need
to
have
an
exception,
and
so
I
will
not
be
in
attendance
for
most
of
the
meeting,
but
I
am
very
confident
in
the
decisions
you
will
be
making
tonight
and
I
look
forward
to
attending
many
future
meetings.
Congratulations.
I
I
just
want
to
echo
what
that
woman
said.
Congratulations
to
god.
I
Congratulations
to
the
members
who
were
reappointed
to
their
seats,
and
I
am
so
proud
of
my
friend's
neighbor
and
fellow
mountain
mobile
home
alliance
member
guadalupe
rosas
for
her
appointment.
I
can't
wait
to
see
her
have
an
impact
on
making
this
body
more
effective
at
serving
the
community
and
keeping
people
safe
in
their
homes.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
alexander
brown.
It
looks
like
we
have
another
hand
up
b,
hanson.
J
Hi
I
just
wanted
to
do
the
same
and.
H
Welcome
all
your
new
members,
and
especially
say
I'm
so
proud
of
you,
I'm
so
glad
you're
on
the
ball
now
and.
G
A
J
J
The
non-personnel
services
have
been
expanded
for
almost
21
and
a
further
almost
70
percent
is
encumbered,
we're
always
kind
of
lacking
in
the
quarterly
invoicing.
So
this
low
budget
is
due
to
later
quarterly
billing
lower
than
anticipated
legal
fees
and
litigation
fees
and
fewer
petition.
Hearing
requests.
J
Capital
outlay,
this
is
budgeted
for
the
long
term.
Development
of
our
database.
21
is
encumbered
for
these
expenses
and
zero
was
expended
by
the
end
of
march.
J
J
If
we
take
these
expenditures
against
the
complete
budget,
59
of
the
budget
remains
not
remains
available,
personnel
is
17,
non-personnel
12
and
the
inner
fund
expense
is
12.
A
E
F
Yeah,
the
inter
fund
is
that
those
services
that
were
provided
by
other
departments.
J
Yeah,
so
it
is
the
customary
in
the
city
of
mountain
view
to
calculate
in
general
15
for
overhead
costs,
and
that
would
include
us
making
use
of
hr,
making
use
of
finance,
making
use
of
I.t
all
the
departments
in
the
city
hall
that
we
occasionally
ask
assistance
from.
A
Seeing
none
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
public
comment
on
this
item.
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
an
announcement.
One
minute
remains.
A
A
Thank
you
staff
for
your
time
and
putting
together
this
report,
I'm
sorry
that
it
took
so
long
for
it
to
get
to
us
so
with
no
one
else,
providing
any
other
feedback.
We're
gonna
go
on
to
9.2
by
annual
review
of
consumer
price
indexes
for
fair
return
calculations,
a
petition
for
upward
adjustment,
and
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
K
Chair
ramos
good
evening
committee
members,
we
have
a
staff
presentation
this
evening
on
the
biannual
review
of
the
consumer
price
index
for
fair
return.
Calculations
for
petitions
of
upward
adjustment
of
rent
and
the
purpose
of
this
presentation
is
for
the
rhc
to
receive
an
informational,
quarterly
review
of
the
consumer
price
indices
for
fair
return.
Calculations
for
the
petition
for
upward
adjustment
of
rent,
specifically
the
mnoy
maintenance
of
net
operating
income
upward
adjustment
event
petition.
K
Since
we
also
now
have
the
new
petition
that
just
came
on
board
for
capital
improvements
and
section
section,
1710
and
1711
of
the
csfra
charge,
the
rental
housing
committee,
with
permutating
regulations
to
clarify
the
petition
process
and
ensure
rents
are
set
to
allow
for
a
landlord's,
fair
return.
K
K
We
also
look
at
the
cpi
housing
and
then
the
cpi
rent
of
primary
residents,
as
noted
before
the
rent
of
primary
residence,
is
the
most
volatile
index
and
right
now.
This
is
compounded
over
time
from
the
time
when
the
csfra
went
into
effect
and
takes
a
look
back
to
that
effective
date
when
we're
calculating
fair
return
petitions.
K
So
we
have
held
consistently
at
about
26
for
just
about
the
past
year
in
relationship
to
the
rent
of
primary
residence,
which
again
is
the
one
that
we
currently
use
for
those
petitions,
the,
as
you
can
see,
the
housing
cost
of
housing
index
has
gone
up
and
is
coming
closer
to
being
in
line
with
the
rent
of
primary
residence
index.
K
So,
as
you
know,
the
maintenance
of
net
operating
income
calculation
is
used
in
the
petitions
of
upward
adjustment
and
determines
whether
or
not
the
and
allow
the
general
adjustment,
which
is
our
allowed.
Annual
rent
increase,
maintains
the
property's
net
operating
income,
which
is
imperative
in
ensuring
a
fair
rate
of
return
for
property
owners,
as
required
under
federal
law,
and
if
the
calculation
in
this
type
of
petition
results
in
a
negative
number
that
property
those
units
in
the
petition
may
be
subject
to
an
increase.
K
That
is
greater
than
the
allowed
general
adjustment,
and
we
are
not
looking
at
any
petitions
because
we
have
not
had
any
finalized
landlord
petitions
for
mnoi
adjustments
in
quite
a
long
time.
But
we
do
want
to
bring
this
back
to
you
as
requested
previously.
So
this
is
again
just
an
informational
item
and
this
concludes
staff's
presentation.
At
this
time.
F
You
I'm
wondering
when
we
look
at
this
regularly,
is
this
the
appropriate
time
to
reconsider
the
basis
on
which
we're
doing
this,
or
does
that
need
to
be
a
new
agenda
item
on
a
future
upcoming
movie.
J
That
probably
requires
a
little
bit
more
background
why
these
indices
were
chosen
in
the
first
place
and
what
the
options
are
for
the
rental
housing
committee
to
deliberate
on
and.
K
As
an
informational
item,
there's
no
voting
allowed
on
this
item.
D
Please
excuse
my
ignorance,
but
I
just
want
clarity
in
regards
to.
If
we
do
get
one
of
those
positions
will
we
get?
Will
we
get
a
staff
report
before
we
can
even
vote
on
on
such
item,
or
this
is
some
absolutely.
K
Petition
the
petitions
itself
if
we
were
to
receive
an
mnoi
petition
that
was
going
through
the
process-
that's
that
has
its
whole
own
process,
that
is,
staff
driven
and
external
from
rhc
unless
it
gets
appealed
to
the
the
committee.
This
particular
item
is.
It
could
be
back
to
the
committee
for
review
if
requested
and
would
be
provided
with
a
supplemental
staff
report
that
provides
more
information
going
forward
for
that
deliberation.
J
D
K
It
was
requested
to
be
moved
to
a
bi-annual
by
the
committee
members,
perhaps
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
that
bi-annual
review
would
have
been.
I
think
january
we've
kept.
K
Again
so
anki
was
kind
enough
to
put
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
of
the
meeting
this
evening,
so
that
we
could
review
it.
A
H
H
However,
when
a
seismic
retrofits
become
mandatory,
as
they
will
at
some
point
in
the
future,
that's
a
time
when
there
will
be
a
new
volume
of
petitions
and
they
may
not
all
go
through
the
capital
petition
process.
Some
of
them
may
go
through
the
mnoi
process
at
that
time
to
get
a
fuller
possible
recoup
of
that
expense
passed
on
to
the
tenants.
H
So
I
don't
think
it's
a
waste
of
time
to
reconsider,
changing,
potentially
changing
the
rate
for
petitions
back
to
the
cpi
rate.
I
hope
you'll
agendize,
that.
A
Said:
okay,
seeing
no
other
comments,
I'm
going
to
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
members
for
committee
deliberation
and
to
provide.
E
A
Any
other
feedback
or
deliberation
from
committee
members
seeing
none
thank
you
staff.
I
believe
we
would
be
able
to
agenda
something
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
correct
at
the
committee
or
rely
on
the
new
chair
to
do
that
as
well.
A
J
Good
evening
again,
I
would
like
to
introduce,
in
this
meeting
for
the
rental
housing
committee
to
consider
formalizing
an
eviction,
prevention
and
defense
program.
J
Moratorium
ab3088,
if
we
still
remember
that
so
long
ago,
and
that
was
superseded
in
january
by
sb
91,
which
is
called
the
tenant
relief
act,
which
also
extended
the
eviction
moratorium,
and
this
eviction
moratorium
extends
till
the
end
of
june
of
this
year.
J
J
J
Sb91
also
declares
that
the
tenants
by
the
end
of
june
2021
must
have
paid
25
of
all
the
rent
due
in
the
past
year
in
order
to
be
covered
under
the
restrictions
of
sb91.
J
This
does
not
mean
that
tenants
are
not
responsible
for
past
due
rent.
They
do
and
they
are
responsible.
Repayment
plans
can
be
negotiated
if
the
tenant
has
paid
up
25
of
their
due
rent
by
the
end
of
june.
A
landlord
can
take
the
tenant
to
small
claims
court
to
create
an
obligation
of
the
tenant
to
pay
back
the
past
due
rent
that
has
not
been
paid
instead
of
going
to
an
unlawful
detainer
court.
J
J
As
mentioned,
this
eviction
moratorium
ends
by
the
end
of
june,
and
even
if
the
tenants
were
to
comply
with
the
moratorium
and
that
paid
the
25
of
their
rent,
debt
lenders
can
begin
to
recover
rental
debt.
On
august
1
2021
through
small
claims
court,
if
tenants
have
not
paid
the
25
percent
landlord
can
file
action
through
unlawful
detainer
court.
J
I
would
like
to
explain
the
difference
between
unlawful
detainer
court
and
small
claims
court.
An
unlawful
detainer
process,
if
successfully
carried
out
by
a
landlord,
puts
the
tenant
out
of
their
rental
unit,
whereas
if
a
landlord
successfully
puts
a
small
claim,
the
landlord
then
has
a
claim
to
the
tenant
of
unpaid
rent,
but
the
tenant
cannot
be
moved
out
of
their
unit.
J
J
If
the
landlord
determines
that
the
tenant
did
not
comply
with
sb91,
he
moves
forward
and
serves
an
unlawful
detainer
complaint.
The
tenant
has
to
formally
answer
within
five
days
in
order
to
be
heard
by
a
court.
If
a
tenant
fail
fails
to
file
such
answer,
the
court
step
is
being
skipped
and
a
default
judgment
is
going
to
be
handed
out
by
the
court
clerk
with
that
default
judgment.
J
The
landlord
can
then
go
to
the
sheriff's
office,
who
will
then
put
a
mandate
of
writ
on
the
tenant's
door
with
the
announcement
that
the
tenant
needs
to
move
out
within
five
days,
I
believe
or
a
week,
and
will
come
back
after
that
time
frame
to
guide
the
tenant
out
of
the
house
if
he
has
not
moved
out
yet.
Why
do
I
show
this
that?
J
Because
there
are
several
levels
and
steps
where
a
tenant
is
not
aware
of
the
process
and
does
not
file
the
correct
notice,
whether
it's
a
hardship
notice,
whether
it's
an
answer
to
a
formal
ud
and
you
can
see
there
are
several
moments
in
this
process
where
mistakes
can
easily
be
made.
J
J
If
a
landlord
applies,
he
can
receive
80
of
the
past
due
rent.
As
long
as
he
will.
J
J
If
a
landlord
does
not
apply,
tenants
can
still
apply
for
rent
relief
assistance
and
receive
25
percent
of
their
past
due
rent
in
order
for
them
to
prevent
being
sued
in
ud
court
and
all
these.
This
rent
relief
assistance
is
for
households
with
an
80
ami
income
or
less
and
on
the
bottom.
You
have
some
numbers
that
represent
the
ami
80
percent,
so
that
number
varies
according
to
the
household
number.
J
Housing
is
key.com,
is
the
portal
to
ask
for
for
rent
relief,
and
this
is
a
huge
assist
rental
assistance
program
and
please
spread
the
word
for
people
to
go.
Housing
is
key.com.
J
So
what
does
csf
race
staff
currently
do
to
inform
the
tenants
of
all
these
rules
and
resources
that
are
available?
We
have
a
robust
outreach
program
in
multiple
languages
and
we're
still
expanding
everything
that
we
can
do.
We
have
frequent
educational
workshops.
We
have.
We
constantly
update
our
web
pages.
J
We
do
targeted
mailings,
we
do
outreach
to
specific
communities
such
as
the
school
system,
cafeto,
the
worker
sunday
worker
center
cse,
and
we
post
short
videos
on
short
on
social
media
through
project
sentinel.
There
are
also
individual
services
available.
They
do
client
intake,
they
try
to
understand
what
the
situation
is.
They
do
educational
counseling
on
procedures
and
options
and
if
the
tenant
so
desires,
they
contact
the
landlord
and
try
to
work
out
a
solution.
J
J
We
expect
an
increased
demand
in
all
of
these
services
due
to
growth.
19
tenants
are
increasingly
not
able
to
pay
back
the
past
due
rent
and,
as
mentioned
before,
the
moratorium
ends
by
the
end
of
june
and
sb91
puts
a
lot
of
complications
into
the
already
very
technical
eviction
procedures
and
in
santa
clara
county.
We
learned
that
95
percent
of
tenants
are
unrepresented
in
court.
J
So
why
an
eviction
prevention
and
defense
program?
We
think
it
contributes
to
the
strategic
goals
of
the
city
and
the
csfre.
It
increases
housing
stability
by
preventing
unnecessary
displacements
and
it
increases
public
health
and
it
decreases
the
impact
on
employment,
law
enforcement
and
the
environment.
J
There
is
also
the
formal
mediation
program
that
can
help
out
in
finding
a
solution
for
disputes
and
senior
adults.
Legal
assistance
is
also
receives
funds
from
the
city
for
legal
counseling
for
seniors
yeah.
J
J
J
J
J
We,
when
speaking
to
some
of
these
agencies,
the
full
scope
representation
mostly
occurs
in
very
few
sur
cases,
and
I
think
the
majority
of
the
cases
usually
get
resolved
before
it
appears
in
court.
J
So
the
program
administration
of
the
full
program
would
be
city
staff.
We
of
course
make
use
of
project
sentinel
and
other
community
based
organizations
and
then
the
legal
aids
agency
to
be
contracted
by
the
city,
so
that
is
recommended
to
contracting
with
a
legal
eviction
agency
starting
in
fiscal
year
2122
just
in
time
when
the
eviction
moratorium
will
expire
and
it
is
proposed
to
reserve
45
000
in
the
first
year
in
the
budget.
For
that
and
of
course,
it's
hard
to
predict
how
many
cases
will
occur
in
this
first
year.
J
So,
in
short,
our
recommendation
would
be
to
contract
for
legal
eviction,
services
with
a
maximum
of
45
000
for
the
fiscal
year
2122
and
formalized
the
multi-program
pronged
eviction,
prevention
and
defense
program.
If
the
rowell
housing
committee
decides
they
want
to
start
earlier
with
the
legal
eviction
services,
we
still
have
about
two
months
to
go.
There
is
still
some
room,
as
we
just
saw
in
the
third
quarter,
financials
to
kind
of
start
a
little
earlier,
although
it
takes
us
a
little
bit
of
time
to
put
those
services
in
place
too,
of
course.
A
D
Okay,
thank
you
chair,
so
I
do
have
a
question
because
it
sounds
a
little
funny
to
me.
So
my
question
to
you
to
to
anki,
I
guess
or
who
can
never
answer
it
for
us.
The
question
is
it
sounded
a
little
funny
to
me
when
you
said
that
that
there
is
assistance
for
financial
counseling,
I
mean
it
sounds
funny,
because
my
understanding
is
that
the
people
who
are
asking
for
that
the
rental
assistance
is
not
because
it
was
their
fault.
It
was
because
of
the
pandemic.
D
So
can
you
give
me
some
insight
in
regards?
Why
is
that
in
the
sp
or
if
you
don't
know,
you
don't
know,
but
it
just
sounded
a
little
funny
to
me.
So
what
is
the
question?
The
question
is:
do
you
have
an
idea
of
why
there
is
financial
assist
financial
counseling
requirement.
J
Oh
no,
no,
there
is
no
financial
counseling
requirements.
I
mentioned
there
is
financial
assistance
available,
oh
okay,
for
households
below
a
certain
annual
household
income
at
housingiski.com.
J
D
Great
I'm
going
to
clarify
that
yeah,
no
problem.
So
in
this
I
guess
to
staff
I
mean
to
me:
45
000,
it's
it's
not
enough.
I
think
it
would
be
more
needed,
but
I
guess
you
guys
are
the
experts.
D
Can
you
give
me
an
idea
and
just
so
that
I
know
where
your
frame
of
mind
is
why
45
000.
J
So
that's
a
question.
I
asked
the
agencies
too.
Can
you
give
me
an
idea
of
how
many
cases
you
would
you
be
able
to
do
for
what
amount
of
money
it's
really
hard
to
predict?
They
say
mostly
because
each
case
involves
a
varying
degree
of
work
from
the
lawyers
if
they
have
to
take
a
case
all
the
way
through
the
court.
J
That
might
be
five
thousand
dollars
per
case,
but
if
they
only
have
to
write
an
answer
to
the
court
and
with
a
phone
call
to
the
landlord
are
able
to
resolve
the
case,
that
will
be
less
way
less
than
five
thousand
dollars.
So
what
the
organizations
do
they
say,
and
I
also
ask
some
other
rent
stabilized
cities.
How
do
they
determine
the
amount
of
money
to
make
available
for
legal
assistance
and
they
just
say
we're
just
kind
of
estimating
what
amount
of
time
one
attorney
would
take
to
deal
with
our
cases
in
our
city.
J
So
our
two
organizations
in
santa
clara
county
provided
the
data
that
for
one
full-time
attorney,
inclusive
benefits
and
overhead.
That
would
be
about
200
000.
If
you
have
one
full-time
attorney
available
for
the
city,
so
we
decided-
let's
see
if
one
quarter
of
an
attorney
would
be
sufficient
to
deal
with
just
mountain
view
cases,
and
we
will
narrowly
closely
keep
track
of
the
cases
per
month
and,
if
that
grossly
over
states,
what
we
intended
to
do.
J
B
B
Second,
related
question:
do
we
know
or
how
is
it
that
we
know
the
the
specific
number
of
people
who
are
not.
E
E
One
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
clarify,
and
it
sounds
like
this
is
actually
a
question
for
the
rhc
in
the
proposal
is
whether
this
proposal
was
initially
designed
and
the
number
that
it
based
on
only
addressing
covet,
invoked
evictions,
meaning
evictions
where
the
tenant
did
have
caused
to
take
advantage
of
the
covet
moratorium
or
if
it
would
also
cover
at
fault,
evictions
such
as
those
for
nuisance
or
criminal
activity
on
property,
and
it
sounds
like
that
would
really
be
something
we
would
be
deciding.
J
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
If
we
look
at
our
termination
notices
in
our
monthly
overview,
the
majority
of
the
of
the
notices
are
all
for
non-payment
of
rent
and
we
get
very
few
nuisance
or
other
just
causes
for
termination.
So
yeah
our
focus
was
definitely
on
the
non-payment
of
rent
termination
notices,
perfect.
E
And
okay,
so
that
helps
to
clarify
that
point
also,
it
seems
like
we
are
saying
that
the
the
45
000
would
probably
cover,
depending
on
the
type
of
legal
work,
that's
being
done,
maybe
anywhere
from
let's
say,
roughly
nine,
if
we
have
nine
cases
at
5k,
a
pop
that
go
to
court
up
to
maybe
60
cases.
If
we're
just
writing
letters,
maybe
a
little
bit
more,
maybe
I'm
overestimating
what
the
attorneys
will
pay
themselves.
E
So,
when
we're
thinking
about
this
expenditure
and
we're
thinking
about
how
to
fund
it,
you
know
if
we
collect
all
of
our
outstanding
fees,
which
I
understand
that
we're
currently
actually
cash
flow
negative
based
on.
If
you
analyze
the
current
budget
and
take
out
the
fees
that
have
not
been
collected.
But
let's
say
that
we
collect
them
and
we're
cash
flow
positive
and
we
have
a
surplus.
Could
we
move
the
surplus
from
the
2021
year
into
2122
as
a
sinking
fund
dedicated
solely
for
this
one
expenditure.
J
I
mean
yeah,
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
say,
but
every
all
the
funds
that
have
been
not
used
for
this
year
do
go
over
to
2122
and
that
part
of
the
budget
is
not
being
used
to
calculate
the
fees
because
fees
were
already
paid
for
that
amount
of
money
that
was
left
over
this
year.
So
all
you
have
to
do
as
a
rental
housing
committee
is
budget
for
21.22
and
that
will
just
take
care
of
and
it
doesn't
matter
where
the
funds
come
from.
J
E
Okay,
I
guess
it
doesn't
matter
whether
you
ring
fence
it
or
not,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
all
one
bucket
all
right,
yeah,
yes,
yes,
okay
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
sorry
I
sent
in
like
10
questions,
I'm
trying
to
slim
them
down.
The
final
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
is
just
about
the
is
this
a
one-time
proposal,
or
is
this
with
an
option
to
extend,
or
is
this
something
where
it
could
auto
renew
meaning?
E
E
J
So
that
is
up
to
the
rental
housing
committee
I
mean
even
with
project
sentinel
and
other
vendors
that
we're
using
every
year,
you
decide
in
your
budget
procedure
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
renew
the
contract
or
want
to
do
something
different.
So
again,
I
would
suggest
this
to
see
to
see
this
as
a
pilot
program
and
then,
when
next
year's
budget
comes
around,
you
can
reassess
whether
or
not
you
want
to
keep
the
services
put
the
level
up
put
the
level
down,
as,
as
you
see
fit,.
K
And
to
provide
further
clarification
for
committee
member
haynes
of,
say,
we've
received
two
breach
of
lease
termination
notices
and
one
failure
to
give
access
out
of
the
522
notices
that
have
been
received.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
hand.
Are
you
ready?
Do
you
remember
your
initial
question
committee
member
part
of
the
zella.
B
J
So
there
is
a
concept
out
there
in
the
housing
world
that
calls
informal
evictions,
which
means
that
tenants,
rather
than
wait
it
out
or
procedure
it
out
the
moment
they
receive
termination
notices,
they
will
just
leave
on
their
own
because
they
do
not
want
to
accumulate
further
debt.
They
do
not
want
to
accumulate
an
order
against
and
court
order
against
them.
So
that's
that's
speculation
on
my
side,
but
that's
in
general.
What
we
hear.
B
Okay,
so
I
guess
a
question
for
council
is
that
in
theory,
could
some
of
these
default
judgments
be
because
attendant
hasn't
paid,
rent,
let's
say
in
a
year
and
then
rather
than
fight
the
process
now
to
evict
them
and
perhaps
pay
25
or
whatever
amount
to
you
know,
resolve
the
landlord's
claim?
Instead,
they
might
be
simply
walking
away
and
vacating
the
unit
and
with
the
landlord
unlikely
to
pursue
them,
given
the
difficulty
of
doing
so.
Is
that
a
possibility-
and
if
so,
do
we
know
if
that's
happening
at
all
in
our
community.
L
You
know,
I
think
that
certainly
is
a
possibility,
but
I
don't
think
we
know
for
sure
whether
that's
happening
the
tenants
that
have
to
pay
25
of
the
rent.
They
don't
have
to
make
that
payment
until
june
30th.
So
I
don't
think
it's
happening
with
respect
to
that.
Yet
so
why
tenants
don't
respond?
I
mean
my
experience
in
the
field.
Is
tenants
don't
respond
because
they
don't
have
legal
services
and
they
don't
know
how
to
respond,
and
it's
a
five
day
response
period,
unlike
most
court
cases
where
you
have
30
days.
F
J
Yeah,
no,
we
don't
have
data
on
how
much
rental
assistance
has
been,
how
many
people
requested
rental
assistance
and
how
much
is
being
given
to
them.
We
just
have
don't
have
that
information.
J
F
Which
makes
this
sort
of
a
guessing
game
of
how
many
cases
would
actually
come
to
us.
I
think
that
the
idea
of
having
legal
services
available
is
great,
and
I
think
I
really
applaud
staff
for
the
research
that
you
put
together
and
the
comparisons
to
other
jurisdictions.
F
I
think
this
is
sort
of
a
missing
piece
that
we
have
not
provided,
and
I
hope
that
we
could
get
the
word
out
very
quickly
so
that
people
could
start
to
take
advantage
of
it
immediately
in
june
may
june
july
and
not
all
be
displaced
and
leave
in
the
city.
I
I
really.
I
think
this
is
a
terrific
add-on
to
our.
My
only
concern
really
is
a
question
to
staff.
Is
you've
already
taken
on
so
much.
In
addition,
during
this
pandemic
period,
there's
you
know
many
more
workshops
and
lots
of
it.
F
J
Most
of
these
services
are
already
in
place,
and
I
also
would
like
to
encourage
you
all
for
tenants
that
do
have
any
questions
to
let
to
to
give
the
the
give
rental
helpline
number
that's
project
sentinel,
because
that's
where
the
first
intake
of
cases
take
place
and
they
provide
a
lot
of
services
already
for
people
that
contact
them
to
really
understand
what
is
going
on
in
their
specific
situation.
J
D
K
Committee,
member
almond,
vice
chairman,
one
of
the
the
main
shifts
for
staff,
is
the
ability
to
follow
up
on
the
termination
notices
that
are
filed
with
us
and
provide
information
about
the
services
that
exist
in
the
community.
So
it
provides
an
almost
immediate
touch
point
to
get
people
information
about
what
is
available
for
residents
in
our
city.
J
Either
one
I
mean
we
okay,
we
direct.
We
redirect
a
lot
of
these
questions
to
project
sentinel
because
they
have
dedicated
staff
with
expertise,
knowledge
intended
landlord
laws
and
the
new
laws
that
were
adopted
to
sb91
and
3088,
and
they
they
have
they.
They
can
at
least
spell
out
the
educational
process
for
them
what
the
options
are
for
a
tenant
and
if
they
see
that
legal
services
is
needed,
it
will
go
straight
to
the
legal
services
agency.
M
Thank
you-
and
I
think
anki
touched
on
my
first
question,
but
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
difference,
be
the
the
additional
services
that
that
this
would
this
program
would
provide.
How
is
it
different
from
the
petition
like
a
tenant
petition
right
so
if
a
tenant
petition
were
levied
or
registered
with
us
to
say,
I
think
my
landlord
is
calculating
rent
incorrectly
and
it
intersects
with
with
the
covid
with
with
the
coveted
laws,
and
they
did,
they
fought
a
petition
for
I
can
unlawful.
M
J
Explain
to
me
the
difference
yeah,
so
the
the
premise
of
this
different
process
versus
a
petition
process
is
that
the
eviction
process
is
ruled
by
state
law,
and
so
we
as
a
csfa,
cannot
undermine
or
do
our
own
eviction
process.
We
have
to
follow
the
court
process,
as
is
laid
out
by
the
state,
and
karen
can
give
a
little
bit
more
details,
but
we
cannot
just
make
a
petition
process
instead
of
the
formal
eviction
process.
L
L
We
can't
add
to
that
process
in
any
way,
because
the
state
has
completely
occupied
that
field,
so
this
would
be
providing
assistance
to
tenants
that
are
subject
to
that
process
and
it
is
a
process,
unlike
our
petition
process,
which
is
more
informal
and
parties,
don't
necessarily
need
to
be
represented
in
the
eviction
process.
There
are
former
formal
court
rules
and
an
unrepresented
party
is
really
at
a
disadvantage
like,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
have
to
answer
the
complaint
within
five
days
or
you.
L
The
landlord
can
get
a
default
judgment,
so
that's
a
very
strict
rule
and
it's
very
quick
as
well
and
and
a
bit
unusual,
so
that's
sort
of
very
different
from
our
petition
process.
Where
you
know
we
don't
know,
parties
aren't
necessarily
represented,
we
don't
have
formal
rules
of
court
etc.
So
that's
the
difference.
M
Got
it
that's
helpful,
and
so
because
we
don't,
we
have
a
30
days
to
respond
right
or
how
many
days
do
we
have
to
respond
to
a
petition.
L
I
forget,
I
think
the
tenants
have
a
set
period
of
time
to
respond,
but
then
there's
also
always
a
hearing.
So
if
they
don't
follow
a
response,
they
have
the
ability
to
present
evidence
at
that
hearing.
Sorry
about
they
have
a
default
judgment
concept.
M
Maybe
this
is
more
for
sorry.
This
is
more
for
maybe
patricia
or
anki,
but
like
when
someone
submits
a
petition
to
us
a
tenant
petition.
How
long
do
we
take
to
review
that
to
determine
whether
it's
you
know
we
give
them
some
some
consulting
to
say?
Yes,
there's
something
wrong
here:
we're
going
to
pursue
this
petition
or
we
reject
the
petition
right.
J
Well,
I
mean
it's
not
up
to
us
to
reject
a
petition.
We
can
say
that
it's
not
complete
and
then
the
next
step
is
to
accept
the
petition
once
it
is
complete,
but
that
is
a
way
longer
process
than
an
awful
detainer
process
for
sure.
N
K
We
do
from
the
petition
standpoint
a
review
of
an
informal
petition,
an
informal
petition
review
so
that
we
can
reduce
the
number
of
petitions
that
get
sent
back
for
refiling
but
again,
they're
completely
separate
processes.
M
Got
it
and
thank
you,
that's
helpful,
I
guess
the
reason
I'm
asking
is:
do
we
plan
to
do
any
pre-qualification
for
those
that
we
would
that
we
would
contribute
part
of
the
budget
to
defend
right
even
to
say,
is
this
a
covered
or
partially
covered
unit?
J
Yeah
so
yeah,
so
the
rental
housing
committee.
It's
not
a
pre-approval
per
case
that
comes
in
per
se,
but
the
rental
housing
committee
can
say
these
are
only
tenants
for
non-payment
of
rent
due
to
covet
or
in
general
non-payment
of
rent
or
for
all
just
cause
terminations.
J
Some
some
cities
put
income
limits
on
tenants
who
might
be
eligible
for
these
services
and
also
on
the
other
side.
When
you
look
at
the
agencies
because
most
of
them
all
of
them
are
non-profit,
so
they
have
their
own
limitations
on
who
they
can
accept
as
a
client,
and
that
is
usually
income
related
as
well.
M
Right,
I
see
so
we
would
need
to
determine
if
you
know
it
did
only
apply
to
partially
partially
or
fully
covered
units.
We
would
and
then
the
the
outside
group
would
have
the
forty
five
thousand
dollars
to
to
move
that
forward.
But
it's
not
going
nothing's
going
through
our
petition
process
at
all.
H
M
Got
it-
and
I
guess,
when
you're
on
the
slide
or
you're
talking
about
other
other
groups,
foundations
jurisdictions,
and
you
were
talking
to
those
organizations
about
the
how
much
volume
they
expect
to
have?
Are
those
city
organizations
that
you're
talking
to
the
non-profits?
I
guess
it's
more
like
is
this
a
my
question?
Is
this
other
rent
boards
who
are
dedicating
money
to
these
funds,
the
larger
funds,
or
is
this
the
city's
jurisdiction
yeah.
J
So
most
cities,
these
decisions
are
being
made
by
city
council,
so
they
don't
have
a
separate
rent
board
that
can
make
these
types
of
decisions
and
have
a
separate
budget.
So
most
of
these
cities.
This
has
been
decided
upon
by
city
council
and
then
the
rent,
the
rent
board
and
the
staff
use
part
of
these
funds
for
their
eviction
services.
J
J
That
will
be
close
to
what
we
would
have
if
we
were
to
add
the
legal
services
to
it.
If
you
could
go
to
the
next
page,
if
you
look
at
mountain
view,
we
spend
close
to
200
000,
the
only
thing
that
is
missing
here-
and
this
is
not
just
the
csf
array,
because
the
80
000
and
the
10
000
come
from
the
city
budget.
M
And
sorry
for
richmond,
if
you
go
back
one
slide,
the
the
organizations
that
are
paying
in
when
we
we
had
a
a
session,
a
joint
session
right
with
the
richmond
version
of
the
rhc
yeah.
Have
they
are
they
contributing
or
yeah.
M
J
J
M
I
see
got
it,
I
got
it
and
that
do
we
know
how
our
total
budget
compares
to
their
budget.
M
All
right,
I
think,
that's
all
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
J
B
Do
we
know
currently,
if
someone's
you
know
the
receipt
tenant,
you
know
in
an
unlawful
detainer
action
when
they're
served
with
the
complaint,
if
they're
also
served
typically
with
any
kind
of
information
about
tenant
groups,
the
law
foundation
or
other
non-profits
that
part
of
their
mandate
and
their
their
function
is
to
assist
tenants.
B
So
so
the
question
is
really,
you
know
you're
a
tenant
you
find
out
if
there's
a
muscle,
detainer
action
and
your
first
thought
is
you
know
what
do
I
do?
Have
you
also
received
along
with
a
copy
of
the
complaint?
B
J
B
E
Oh,
I
just
wanted
to
tackle
on
a
quick
question,
in
addition
to
any
guidelines
that
the
rhc
sets
on
what
we
want
this
rfp
to
cover
and
also
the
legal
vendors
guidelines
around
the
population
they
serve.
There
would
be
vetting
of
the
merits
of
the
case
done
by
the
legal
partner
as
well
right.
They
wouldn't
just
take
off
comers.
They
would
actually
look
for
cases
so.
J
Yeah,
absolutely
so
if
they
get
a
they
get
a
case
and
they
they
will
legally
evaluate
what
the
best
next
steps
are,
or
you
know,
and
so
they
have
to
do
it.
That
way,
because
you
know
not
every
case
warrants
a
trip
to
the
court
if,
if
all
the
compliance
have
been
correctly
applied
and
yeah,
so
I
don't
know
how
they
do
that
and
what
goes
into
the
thought
process
exactly.
But
yes,
I
think
we
should
leave
that
up
to
the
legal
evaluation.
Part
perfect.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
moisture
almond
is
that
is
your
hand
up
from
before,
or.
F
Did
you
know
the
new
one?
Okay?
So
I
think
anki
answered
my
question,
but
since
there's
a
statewide
moratorium
and
a
city-wide
moratorium
that
doesn't,
that
means
that
they'll
be
potentially
clients
who
would
need
services
who
are
not
covered
by
csfra
from
the
sounds
of
it?
We
would.
It
would
be
okay
if
those
people
were
funneled
through
us
to
project
central
sentinel
and
but
would
they
be
eligible
for
our
legal
services
fund.
J
So,
first
of
all,
there
is
no
local
eviction.
Moratorium,
that's
been
succeeded
by
the
statewide
eviction
moratorium
and
that's
the
same
fx
moratorium.
That
applies
to
all
tenants
in
city
of
mountain
view.
So
the
question
is:
with
our
services:
do
we
only
cover
csfra
units
or
do
we
cover
all
tenants
in
the
city
of
mountain
view
and
again,
that
is
a
decision
that
you,
as
the
rental
housing
committee,
can
make.
J
D
D
My
understanding
when
the
question
was
asked
was
that
the
45
000
is
the
45
000..
If
we
wanted
to
increase
it,
we
would
have
to
come
back
to
staff
and
vote
on
it
and
discuss
it
now.
But
my
question
to
you
is:
if,
in
the
future
we
decided
that
the
40
45
thousand
dollars
can
be
used
per
se.
As
you
know
the
sb91
well,
it
is
basically
asking
landlords
to
forgive
the
the
20
right.
J
J
This
this
specifically
agenda
item
is
for
eviction,
prevention
and
defense
program
that
to
deal
with
after
the
moratorium
ends,
there's
separate
rent
assistance
programs
where
the
city
council
has
adopted
a
rent
assistance
program
that
is
already
being
executed
by
the
csa,
and
now
there
is
also
a
state
program.
J
M
Sure
this
is
a
quick
one,
I
think
for
karen.
I
guess
karen,
do
you
see
any
any
exposure
or
risk
to
you
know
something
like
single
family
homes
is
clearly
outside
the
bound
of
the
csfra
like
if
we
were
to
fund
defense
of
a
situation
where
someone's
you
know
being
evicted
from
a
single
family
home?
Is
that
does
that
cause
any
certain
exposure
there,
as
we
think
through
rules
of
the
process
of
the
program.
L
I
don't
think
there's
exposure
there
I
mean
you
collect
some
rental
housing
fees
from
landlords
to
administer
the
program.
Your
program
and
you're
authorized
under
the
csfra
to
take
a
variety
of
actions
that
aren't
solely
focused
on
covered
units.
L
A
That
was
an
advantage
all
right.
So
I
had
a
couple
questions:
why
aren't
we
so
expensive?
But
that's
not
a
real
question.
Sorry
committee
number
part
of
the
zelda,
so
the
one
question
I
have
is
how,
if
the
funds
get
depleted
rapidly,
which
would
indicate
that
the
need
for
the
program
do
we
have
steps
taken?
A
If
we
do
need
to
revisit
this
sooner
than
later,
not
that
I
want
to
plan
that
immediately
but
like
if
we
do
suddenly
like
we
open
the
pot,
we
open
the
pot
of
money
and
it's
all
gone
like
we.
We
have
some
ways
to
address
that
correct.
A
Okay
and
as
as
we
when
we
do
our
rfp
process
and
determine
who's
going
to
be
our
vendor
for
the
legal
services,
how
much
data
can
we
can
we
pull
out
from
that?
I'm
I'm,
I'm
totally
abcd
always
be
collecting
data.
A
A
Perfect,
there's
all
the
questions
that
I
have
seen.
No
more
questions
from
my
fellow
committee
members.
We
can
move
over
to
public
comments,
so
would
any
member
of
the
public
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains.
You
will
get
three
minutes,
so
I
have
a
hand
raised
by
jeff
zell.
N
Excellent,
I'm
going
to
try
to
fit
this
all
in
three
minutes.
First
comment
that
my
I
appalled
at
how
grossly
uninformed
and
uneducated
many
of
you
are
on
this
rac
and
I'm
not
starting
out
on
a
good
foot
so
but
as
well.
You
know,
I
don't
appreciate
the
the
lack
of
information
and
education
in
san
jose.
The
numbers
are
wrong.
I
pretty
much
since
they
redid
the
ar
on
tpo
about
five
years
ago
and
say
90
of
them
are
represented
and
that's
because
they
get
the
tenants
get
notified.
N
Sorry,
the
city
gets
notified
when
a
ud
is
filed
the
ironically,
we
are
paying
essentially
the
rac
to
defend
our
own
evictions,
which
is,
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
I'm
ironic
alrighty.
Lastly,
let's
see
my
cost
for
addiction
is
about
two
thousand
dollars
for
legal
fees.
I
don't
know
what
law
foundation
is
charging,
but
if
it's
more
than
two
thousand
they're
ripping
you
off
the
the
I've
noticed
a
bunch
of
default
judgments.
N
The
main
statement
I
want
to
say,
though,
is
that
in
the
state
of
california,
unlawful
detainers
are
protected
by
state
law
or
defined
by
state
law,
and
they
are
the
easiest
eviction
ever
whatever
money
you
throw
at
legal
defense
is
a
waste
of
money,
you're
better
off
taking
that
and
throwing
it
to
rent
or
just
throwing
yourself
a
party,
because
in
the
20,
probably
the
last
25
years
filed
at
least
200
unlawfully
changes
and
haven't
lost
one
yet
and
if
you
don't
know
manage
about
2
000
units
all
over
the
bay
area
we
filed
on
average
about
one
a
month
before
the
pandemic
and
haven't
lost
one
yet
with
representation
without
representation.
N
A
Mr
zoell,
I
did
have
a
couple
questions
for
you
if
you're
still
on
the
line,
yeah
score
so
out
of
the
2000
out
of
the
200
unlawful
detainers
that
you
had
do
you
know
how
many
did
you
file
in
mountain
view
and
over
what
period
of
time
I.
N
Don't
know
I'm
talking
so
I've
been
in
business,
we've
been
in
business
45
years,
I've
been
around
the
business
at
least
25
years
now
they
have
been
in
manual.
I
put
it
this
way,
I'm
including
everything
in
the
county
of
santa
clara
and
a
few
in
the
county
of
alameda.
We
haven't
lost
one.
Yet
there
are
the
evictions
to
file
and
the
easiest
pictures
to
win.
I
Hey
all
right,
first
jeff,
I
miss
hanging
out
with
you
in
the
audience
these
things,
maybe
once
they're
back
in
person
and
chat
again,
but
second
all
right.
I
think
this
is
great.
I
I
know
a
lot
of
my
neighbors
who
have
had
to
deal
with
rent
issues
over
the
last
year
are
as
afraid
of
lawyers
as
they
are
of
the
landlords
so
having
a
little
bit
more
peace
of
mind
and
knowing
that
there
are
resources
out
there
for
them
is
going
to
be
fantastic,
and
I
really
appreciate
seeing
the
committee
finding
other
ways
to
achieve
the
purposes
of
the
csfra
of
trying
to
keep
people
safe
and
secure
in
their
homes.
O
Hi
I
just
like
to
echo
the
previous
speaker's
comments
that
I
I
really
think
that
it's.
I
really
appreciate
that
the
rental
housing
commission
is
taking
this
up
and
I
think
you
know
the
data
is
clear:
that
right
to
council
or
presence
of
legal
counsel
is
a
huge
factor
in
tenants
being
able
to
stay
housed,
and
I
strongly
encourage
an
item
to
be
passed.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
rohan
ghosh.
Do
we
have
any
other
comment
people
wishing
to
comment
seeing
none
I'm
going
to
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
where
a
motion
is
in
order
and
an
emotion
to
approve
requires.
J
F
Given
what
jeff
sell
just
said
and
how
easy
it
was
to
win
200
or
2000
uds,
I
think
it
makes
the
case
for
how
important
it
is
that
we
provide
legal
services
to
those
vulnerable
and,
if
it's
so
easy
for
the
lawyers
to
win
unlawful
detainers,
it
just
shows
that
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
out
there
who
don't
have
representation
who
would
really
be
served
by
this
kind
of
a
program.
F
I
I
even
am
worried
because
there's
only
a
five
day
response
time,
whether
we
have
time
to
intervene
at
all
but
but
yeah,
I'm
I'm
totally
for
this
program.
Is
that
emotion
I
well.
I
thought
we
have
to
deliberate
first,
okay,
I'm
asking
I
don't
know.
F
A
Think
we
could
still
deliver
when
emotion
is
on
the
floor,
but
if
you
want
to
do
more
deliberation,
people
are
bushes
on
the
floor.
We
can
do
that
as
well.
B
For
example-
and
I
know
when
those
of
us
that
have
been
on
the
committee
for
a
while
can
probably
remember
quite
a
number
of
smaller
landlords
that
would
come
in
front
of
us
almost
every
meeting
and
tell
us
about
the
hardships
they
had
and
how
they
were.
You
know
going
to
go
out
of
business
or
going
to
lose
their
property
because
they
could
no
longer
pay
the
mortgage
because
of
rent
control
and
most
of
those
I
don't
see
anymore.
B
I
don't
know
if
they
did
go
out
of
business
or
they've
just
given
up
or
they
sold
their
properties.
And
now
those
are
fancy
townhouses
that
people
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
afford
for
the
most
part.
But
I
think
there
certainly
is
a
category
of
small
landlords,
mom-and-pop
type
landlords
in
mountain
view
that
have
suffered
tremendously
during
this
pandemic,
and
I
I
think
it's
not.
B
So
I
think
we've
seen
a
little
bit
about
some
other
jurisdictions
where
there's
some
assistance
provided
to
just
smaller
landlords
or
landlords
in
me,
and
I
certainly
feel
like
there
should
be
something
commensurate
for
the
smaller
landlords
in
mountain
view,
with
what
we're
attempting
to
do,
perhaps
with
some
of
the
tenants
who
are
facing
hardship.
M
Sure,
thanks
and-
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
echo
some
of
the
things
that
that
julian
mentioned
also
I'm
not
a
voting
member.
So
thank
you
for
obviously
my
comments
and
deliberation,
but
I
I
don't
have
a
vote
yeah.
I
think
the
other
side
when,
when
these
come
up,
you
know
I
try
to
think
of
qualifying
questions
or
the
other
side
right,
which
is
there.
There
is
a
downside
to
this.
You
know
it's
it's
about
three
dollars
per
unit
per
year.
I
think.
Are
we
here?
M
Are
we
around
15
000
units
that
we're
collecting
for
so
roughly
three
dollars?
M
You
know
not
breaking
the
bank
for
sure
seems
like,
but
but
this
is
a
general
housing
problem
and
I
think
the
city
would
would
be
happy
to
have
us
use
our
budget
to
put
towards
this
problem
as
opposed
to
the
city
putting
it
towards
this
problem.
But
it
really
is
a
housing
problem.
There
are
a
lot
of
housing
problems,
so
I
think
just
thinking
through
you
know
what
kind
of
precedent
does
this
set
right
that
the
you
know
looking
at
the
slide
of
what
what
this
been,
how
this
benefits?
M
The
community-
I
agree,
you
know
people
should
be
represented,
they
shouldn't
feel
pressured,
but
also
to
the
landlord
who
made
a
comment
in
many
cases.
It's
it
is
pretty
cut
and
dry.
I
think
we're
expecting
that
covet
all
the
coveted
laws
and
the
moratoriums
will
create
more
mistakes
on
the
landlord's
part.
They
won't
calculate
things
correctly
or
they'll.
M
It's
new
information
and
people
are
going
to
make
mistakes
and
I
think,
having
people
be
defended
in
those
cases,
is
valuable,
but
to
say
blanket
that
we
should
take
our
budget,
which
is
for
rent,
stabilization
and
administering
this
program
and
apply
it
to
a
housing
issue
for
the
city
of
mountain
view.
It
starts
to
get
yeah,
then
the
question
is
like
well
how
much
per
unit
what
would
start
to
be
unreasonable
right.
Three
dollars,
ten
dollars.
You
know
it
just
becomes
kind
of
a
slippery
slope
so
again,
just
for
for
conversation.
M
M
M
So
you
could,
since
this
is
a
process
automatically
by
having,
I
think,
by
having
defense
funds
for
an
individual,
any
individual
who's
who's
up
for
eviction
could
just
extend
extend
that
process
by
by,
I
think,
having
defense
and,
and
some
of
them
absolutely
deserve
it,
because
the
landlords,
you
know,
if
they've
gotten
something
wrong
in
the
new
cove
moratorium
laws.
M
I
think
it's
warranted
for
sure,
but
I
would
just
want
to
have
some
guard
rails
around
around
like
that
are
fun,
that
it
is
protecting
the
people
who
need
the
protection
and
that
the
city
of
mountain
view
is
also
paying
their
fair
share.
So
thank
you
for
listening
to
my
my
stance
there,
but
appreciate
it.
F
I
understand
julian,
where
you're
coming
from,
and
you
always
do
a
nice
job
of
looking
out
for
the
mom
and
pop
landlords,
but
it's
the
tenants
that
are
being
evicted
and
and
the
csfra
is-
was
intended
to
help
stabilize
things
for
tenants,
and
we
we've
also
we've
reached
out
to
landlords
and
done,
I
think,
an
excellent
job
of
helping
them
out.
I
I
think
that
I
think
I
personally
think
we
should
proceed
with
this.
F
I
think
that
we
should
also
state
that
it
would
be
all
right
if
project
sentinel
answers
the
phone
to
people
who
are
not
csfra
covered.
I
think
I
don't
know.
I
think
it
would
be
really
tricky
just
for
us
to
be
gatekeepers.
F
I
think
it's
very
unlikely.
We
get
a
lot
of
approaches
from
people
that
aren't
csfra
but
yeah.
I
think
we're
okay
going
forward
with
this.
J
May
I
give
some
clarification
so
the
biggest
part
of
the
the
the
whole
program
up
until
their
legal
representation
is
intended
for
both
landlords
and
tenants.
Landlords
can
as
much
call
project
sentinel
and
use
all
the
other
services
that
we
provide,
and
it
sounds
like
landlords
have
a
good
grip
on
the
ud
process,
as
we
just
heard
from
mr
zell.
J
I
think
what
the
rental
housing
could
consider
to
say
for
what
type
of
tenants
and
for
which
cases
they
would
like
to
make
these
funds
available,
and
then
we
can
just
implement
that
together
with
the
agency,
so
there
is
no
pre-qualification
for
each.
The
agency
will
just
see
whether
or
not
the
the
tenant
that
needs
legal
help
would
qualify.
J
Whether
that
is
they
can
check
on
csra
covered
units.
They
can
check
what
type
of
termination
they
can
check
on
income,
as
we
saw
in
the
overview.
The
80
000
of
mediation
services
that
comes
already
from
the
city
also
covers
non-csfra
units.
So
I
think
the
whole
city
is
pretty
much
covered
up
until
the
legal
eviction
part
representation
that
we're
discussing
today,
just
for
clarify.
E
E
I
can
tell
you
it's
a
scary
thing,
but
at
the
same
time
it
would
not
have
made
our
financial
situation
better
to
attempt
to
stay
in
a
place
we
could
not
afford
to
live
because
of
the
implications
of
that
from
a
financial
point
of
view.
So
all
of
that
being
said,
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
deliberate
in
how
we
craft
who
gets
the
aid,
because
the
aid
bucket
is
not
all
that
large
and
I
don't
think
that
we
want
to
bill
landlords,
specifically
large
sums
of
money
to
defend
against
eviction
procedure.
E
Proceedings
number
one
because
I
do
think
most
of
them
are
fairly
cut
and
dry
and
number
two,
because
I
just
I.
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
we
want
to
set
a
precedent
that
we
are
defending
the
tenants
that
we
are
making
the
landlords
pay
for
the
tenants
defense
against
what
might
be
a
lawful
and
justification.
D
A
You
be
open
to
a
slight
amendment
to
that
motion.
Always
I
was
wondering
we
could.
I
I
think,
I'm
okay
with
prioritizing
that,
but
if
there
is
money
for
it,
then
I
would
be
willing
to
to
to
cover
outside
of
that
bucket.
But
I
I
I'm
okay
with
prioritizing
that
does
that
make
things
difficulty.
A
J
Yes,
because
not
every
case
comes
in
at
the
same
time,
and
so
prioritizing
is
going
to
be
hard
when
cases
come
in
and
you
can't
just
wait
for
a
year
and
then
see
which
cases
merit
legal
aid
and
which
ones
don't
so
that
would
be
a
little
hard.
So
maybe
an
easier
solution
would
be
to
raise
the
ami
a
little
bit
to
120
like
what
is
already
in
the
csf
array.
F
Yeah,
I
am,
I
think,
if
we
want
to
look
more
globally,
covid
will
not
be
the
only
reason
why
people
will
want
the
eviction,
prevention
and
defense
program
long
term.
E
But
if
we're
piloting
it
and
we're
piling
in
it
as
a
response
to
the
fact
that
we
think
there
will
be
an
eviction
tsunami
based
primarily
on
covet-related
causes,
I
think
for
a
pilot.
We
could
start
out
with
the
covet-related
evictions
and
then,
if
we
expand
the
program
either
at
the
mid-year
or
whenever
with
a
budget
amendment
or
alternatively,
at
your
end
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
we
have
the
ability
to
tweak
further,
but
it's
a
pilot.
A
E
F
E
J
This
legal
organization
is
not
going
to
take
any
case
they're
getting
to
the
court,
because
if
it's
cut
and
dry,
like
mr
zell
mentioned-
and
he
has
followed
it's
a
very
technical
process,
if
he
followed
all
the
rule,
correct
rules-
and
he
did
everything
by
the
book-
he
gave
the
notices
in
time
and
and
everything
seems
in
order.
J
I
don't
think
the
legal
organization
will
be
compelled
to
pull
it
all
the
way
through
the
court,
but
if
they
see
that
there
were
mistakes
being
made
like
not,
the
correct
notices
were
given
or
the
landlord
makes
a
mistake
and
files
at
ud
court,
although
the
tenant
complied
with
all
the
sb
91.
So
those
are
the
cases
that
the
legal
services
would
be
used
for.
F
I
I
thought
we
were
still
open
to
the
wording.
L
A
All
right
go
ahead.
Committee
member
part
of
the
zelda.
B
Yeah
I
mean
my
point
is
really
just
that
you
know
it's
been
said,
there's
nothing
more
permanent
than
a
temporary
government
program,
and
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
one-year
thing.
So
we
do
this
now
and
then
next
year,
when
colby's
gone,
fortunately
or
hopefully,
then
there's
gonna
be
another
reason
to
give
money
again
to
this
type
of
thing.
B
This
will
not
be
a
one
year
thing,
so
I
think,
if
anyone's
in
favor
of
this
that's
fine,
but
I
think
you
know
you
got
to
be
aware
that
once
you
start
doing
this
stuff,
there's
just
no
end
to
this
kind
of
thing,
and
I
think
that's
why
it's
particularly
important
to
recognize
that
we're
really
putting
our
finger
on
the
scale
for
one
particular
side,
and
it's
not
just
a
one-time
thing,
and
I
think
that
that
should
be
concerning
where
you
know,
we
have
legitimacy
that
we
should
be
concerned
about
as
a
entity
in
an
organization.
B
That's
supposed
to
be
working
on
behalf
of
everyone,
and
I
think
now,
if
we
start
down
the
road
where
we're
going
to
continually
be,
you
know,
taking
from
peter
to
pay
paul,
that's
not
a
good
precedent
and
it's
going
to
create
longer-term
problems.
So
I
just
want
us
to
to
be
aware
of
that,
because
next
year,
at
this
time,
if
this
whole
program
has
elapsed,
someone
will
find
another
reason
to
give
out
another
45
000
for.
D
So
all
what
I've
been
hearing
is
very,
very
interesting
and
very
informative
as
well.
My
I
keep
on
thinking
what
the
the
rhc
was
formed.
D
It
was
formed
to
create
the
community
stabilization
for
fair
rent
right
so
and
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
the
pandemic
is
definitely
has
been
killing
lives
right
and
what
we're
doing
is
saving
lives.
D
Honestly,
I
believe
the
forty
five
thousand
dollars
is
not
enough.
I
think
it
definitely.
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
issues
out
there.
D
I
am
praying
and
hoping
that
we
have
enough
enough
staffing
to
have
this
program,
be
successful
and
be
a
beacon
of
what
is
the
right
thing
to
do
right
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
keep
people
safe,
keep
people
home,
whether
that's
being
a
csf
rental
or
not.
D
So
I,
of
course
I'm
gonna
be
voting
for
for
it.
Yes,
I'm
liking,
where
this
is
leading.
D
I,
like
the
the
possible
amendments
that
may
come
off
of
it,
because
I
think
it's
it's
we're
headed
in
the
right
direction
and
the
right
direction
is
to
keep
people
safe.
Keep
people
in
mountain
view,
because
we
need
all
kinds
of
people
in
mountain
view,
so
that
we
can
have
a
successful
city.
D
This
csfra
policy
was
voted
overwhelmingly,
so
that
is,
that
is
what
the
voters
want,
and
I
guess
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
leave
it
at
that
and
open
too
any
more
comments
or
suggestions.
You
guys
may
have.
A
Next
we
have
vice
chair
almond.
I
just.
F
Wanted
to
say
that
in
looking
at
other
jurisdictions,
it
looks
like
all
of
them
already
provide
legal
services,
so
we're
just
really
filling
it
out
and
we're
not
saying
we're
gonna,
you
know
provide
thousands
and
thousands
of
dollars.
We
don't
know
how
how
much
the
need
is
going
to
be,
but
I
don't
I
I
feel
like
this
is
just
another
piece
of
what
we
should
already
have
been
offering
people.
F
F
So
as
much
as
we
can
we're
probably
talking
about
a
handful
of
cases,
we
don't
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
using
our
services,
but
I
definitely
think
giving
it.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
julian
that
you,
you
start
a
new
pot
of
money
and
you're
unlikely
to
evoke
it
later.
F
E
Am
I
accurate
in
believing
that
the
maximum
you
can
claim
in
small
claims
court
in
the
state
of
california
is
ten
thousand
dollars,
meaning
that
for
all
of
the
75
of
the
rent
that
is
not
paid
and
converts
to
a
personal
debt?
Most
of
that
will
not
be
going
to
small
claims
court.
If
it's
for
more
than
let's
say
three
months
of
rent,
it
will
be
going
to
big
boy
court
actually.
L
E
Because
that's
where
I
see
as
the
biggest
stumbling
block
in
these
procedures
and
where
I
think
the
most
legal
work
will
have
value
is
for
the
landlords
who
misstep
and
think.
Oh,
this
is
an
evictable
debt.
I
follow
filed
the
ud,
but
it's
really
a
personal
debt.
You
need
to
go
to
court
to
claim
it
as
a
personal
debt,
it's
a
different
type
of
debt
and
that's
where
I
think
making
sure
that
our
dollars
go
to
defending
that
type
of
case,
because
I
think
that
is
going
to
be.
E
A
All
right,
so
with
that
it
looks
like
everyone
has
had
their
say,
yay
thank
you,
anki
and,
and
and
miss
karen
patricia
and
andrea
for
getting
this
set
up.
It
really
does
feel
like
it
was
a
something
filling
in
from
our
suite
of
services
that
we
have
provided
in
terms
of
the
community.
A
A
So
thank
you
for
that.
It
really
does
fill
in
all
the
services
that
we
are
providing
to
this
community.
A
A
J
E
Ahead,
nicole,
so
I
believe
the
motion
with
the
friendly
amendment
was
to
contract
for
legal
eviction
services
with
a
maximum
of
forty
thousand
forty
five
thousand
for
fiscal
year.
Twenty
one
twenty
two
to
to
address
covet
non-payment
of
rent
evictions
with
a
max
with
the
income
limit
being
125
of
the
medium
median
agi
and
to
formalize
a
multi-pronged
eviction,
prevention
and
defense
program.
Is
that
accurate
from
my
friendly
amender.
G
G
N
A
Thank
you
andrea
now,
we're
on
to
our
next
item:
9.4
update
on
invoicing
for
csfra,
annual
rental
housing
fees
and
csfra
registration
progress,
and
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
G
G
So
the
csfra
requires
dedicated
resources
for
its
development,
implementation
and
administration.
The
rental
housing
committee
establishes
a
budget
for
the
reasonable
and
necessary
implementation
of
the
provisions
of
the
csfra
and
finances
those
expenses
by
charging
the
landlords
in
the
annual
rental
housing
fee.
G
So
this
table
here
shows
an
overview
of
our
fees
per
unit
over
the
years,
as
well
as
the
number
of
properties
being
invoiced
you'll
notice.
We
have
a
couple
more
this
year
than
we
did
last
year,
and
that
is
because,
while
researching
the
addresses
for
the
registration
database,
I
came
across
some
properties
that
were
previously
missing
from
our
csf
rate
covered
property
list.
So
I
added
those
in
this
year
and
they
were.
G
Invoiced
on
june
29th
of
2020,
the
royal
housing
committee
passed
a
resolution
and
regulations
to
mandate
annual
registration
for
all
csfra
cover
rental
units
in
a
csfri
online
database.
The
database
provides
economical
and
efficient
communication
with
landlords.
It
also
provides
an
online
tool
and
resources
for
efficient,
accurate
and
reliable
functioning
of
the
csfra
program
and
allows
for
effective
and
timely
collection
and
prop
processing
of
analyze,
the
analyzing,
the
rental
property
data
that
we
collect.
G
We
have
amanda
yes,
and
because
our
mandatory
registration
is
new
requirement
this
year
and
we
haven't
really
had
a
lot
of
properties
registered
just
yet
so
staff
and
the
multi-family
all
together.
We
sort
of
are
continuing
to
manually,
update
our
owner
contacts
every
year
to
try
to
eliminate
discrepancies
between
the
three
departments.
G
Databases
to
create
the
most
accurate
database
of
csf
properties
for
our
invoicing
and
as
landlords
continue
to
register
a
property
online.
We're
thinking
that
the
manual
prep
work
for
the
invoicing
should
be
greatly
reduced
and
we've
already
had
the
registration
database
be
very
helpful
in
making
sure
that
we
have
accurate
information
for
those
properties
that
have
already
registered.
G
But
after
the
invoices
are
mailed,
staff
received
still
numerous
calls
from
property
owners
who
either
sold
their
properties,
or
we
do
also
receive
a
lot
of
return
to
send
their
mail
from
properties.
That
mailing
address
is
just
out
of
date
and
we
have
simply
have
the
wrong
address
for
them.
G
So
we
address
these
issues
in
a
couple
ways,
so
we
try
to
research
the
current
property
ownership
information.
We
have
a
couple
databases
in
our
finance
system.
We
can
look
through
and
we
definitely
utilize
the
county's
database
as
well,
and
so
we
update
those
as
much
as
we
can
and
we
resend
the
the
contact
information
for
what
we
believe
is
the
correct
addresses.
G
G
So,
as
of
april
8th,
the
following
number
of
invoices
were
delinquent,
so
you'll
see
this
year.
We
still
have
77
properties
that
have
not
paid
their
rental
housing
fee
and
the
total
amount
is
165
577,
and
you
will
notice
too
that
last
year
the
2020
b
and
the
2021
fee
are
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
previous
years,
and
so
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
the
next
slide.
G
And
gave
him
sort
of
a
a
packet
of
information
along
with
any
delinquent
invoices,
and
so
by
doing
this,
it
also
included
our
courtesy
compliance
letter.
So
I
think
you
would
have
seen
that
in
the
attachment
with
this
memo
and
that
really
resulted
in
a
reduction
of
our
delinquent
invoices.
So
I
intend
to
do
the
same
thing
for
this
year
and
then
I
will
include
both
last
year's
fee
and
this
year's
fee
to
any
outstanding
invoice.
G
Contact
information
was
not
saved
for
some
of
the
properties
in
the
invoicing
system,
so
I
do
have
flagged
a
decent
amount
of
properties
and
a
lot
of
our
bigger
properties
to
have
those
invoices
mailed
out
to
a
newer
and
more
up-to-date
address.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
and
staff
is
currently
collaborating
with
both
finance
and
again
the
multi-family
housing
department
to
update
those
systems
to
make
sure
that
every
time
we
are
finding
the
correct
addresses,
we
are
making
sure
that
is
saved
in
everybody's
system.
G
So
nothing
slips
through
the
cracks
and
then
we
are
definitely
mailing.
Those
correct
invoices
to
the
owners
so
for
the
remaining
unpaid
invoices
staff
is
searching
in
various
databases
for
correct,
updated
information
and
we're
sending
follow-up
notices
about
at
the
beginning
of
every
month.
There's
the
delinquent
notice,
that's
going
out
or
if
we're
having
an
updated
address
or
contact
information.
G
We're
sending
the
original
invoice
out
with
the
new
due
dates
in
in
early
may
we're
planning
to
send
currency
compliant
letters
that
would
include
again
that
non-compliance
packet
with
the
letter
and
the
rental
housing
fee
insert,
and
it
will
also
include
copies
of
all
delinquent
invoices
for
that
one
property.
So
some
properties
have
multiple
years
worth
of
delinquent
invoices.
G
G
G
so
of
those
29
properties.
Five
consists
of
properties
that
have
more
than
20
units
and
the
majority
of
the
delinquent
invoices
that
have
more
than
one
invoice.
That's
unpaid
are
smaller
properties,
so
they
consist
of
fewer
than
20
units,
and
actually
the
majority
of
those
24
properties
actually
consist
of
about
10
or
less
units.
Even
so,
it's
definitely
the
smaller
properties
that
we
one
need
to
target
for
the
invoicing
as
well
as
the
registration
and
make
sure
we
do
have
the
correct
contact
information
for
them.
G
So
here's
an
overview
of
the
rental
housing
statistics
sort
of
per
fiscal
year-
and
you
can
see
here
that
we
do
have
pretty
good
collection
rates.
It's
really
in
the
90s
for
most
years
this
year,
it's
a
little
bit
lower
at
89,
but
I
do
imagine
that
once
I
send
an
updated
list
to
finance
with
the
contact
information
that
I
found
to
be
out
of
date,
that
number
will
definitely
be
up
into
the
90s.
G
We've
also
included
a
total
amount
collected
at
the
bottom
of
each
column
here,
so
we're
about
1.1
million
for
this
current
fiscal
year's
fee
and
then
I'll
just
mention
quickly
that
you
will
see
that
the
total
amount
does
go
down,
and
that
is
because
of
the
lowering
of
the
fees
and
also
some
extra
budget
rolls
over
into
each
year's
budget
amount.
So
it
lowers
the
fee
in
that
way
as
well.
So
it's
not
because
we
have
less
people
paying
it's
just
because
the
fee
is
cheaper.
G
All
right,
so
this
chart
here
is
going
to
be
a
breakdown
of
delinquent
invoices,
I'm
just
looking
at
properties
with
more
than
20
units
and
then
properties
with
less
than
20
units.
G
But
yes,
so
I'm
hoping
again
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
of
this
chart.
We
have
a
total
unpaid
amount
for
each
year
and
once
we
do
send
out
our
you
know,
reminder
packets,
I'm
hoping
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
get.
That
number
significantly
significantly
decreased
and
we
can
definitely
do
an
update
for
you
all
if
you
would
like
that,
we
did
that
last
year
or
the
other
year
when
I
sent
them
out.
G
G
We
have
seven
properties
that
have
at
least
three
delinquent
invoices
and
the
majority
of
the
properties
with
more
than
one
delinquent
invoice
only
have
not
paid
for
two
years.
So
that's
27
for
a
total
of
40
properties
that
have
a
pattern
of
not
paying
at
least
more
than
one
of
their
rental
housing
fees.
F
G
G
G
What
do
you
need
to
do
and
then
we
had
eight
10
webinars
in
the
last
eight
months
that
provided
a
tutorial
on
how
to
register,
and
we
had
pretty
good
attendance
at
the
at
those,
especially
in
the
beginning,
and
then
we
had
a
big
rush
of
attendance
right
before
that
march
first
due
date,
so
we
also
have
one-on-one
assistance
again,
that's
made
available
through
our
office
hours,
and
so
that's
really
nice.
We
can
just
share
screens
with
the
owner
and
walk
them
right
through
it.
So
that's
been
successful
as
well.
G
G
And
again,
we'll
so
we'll
continue
to
follow
up
with
those
unregistered
properties
and
encourage
and
insist
and
help
assist
them
online
to
fill
it
out.
I
want
to
mention
that
we
have
made
paper
copies
of
registration
available
for
those
who
don't
have
access
to
the
computer
or
just
uncomfortable
on
the
computer.
G
And
again,
to
mention
just
that
completed
registration
has
again
been
very,
very
helpful
and
for
us
in
getting
out
our
invoices
and
just
getting
out
communications
to
the
property
owners
that
we
that
we
know
we're
reaching,
and
we
also
are
able
to
send
out
email
blasts
through
the
system.
G
So
the
fiscal
impact
with
the
rental
housing
fee
is
a
reduced
funding
of
our
csfra
program.
But
we
do
anticipate
that
the
total
revenues
will
be
sufficient
to
fund
all
of
our
expenditures
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
But
again
it
is
imperative
that
all
properties
do
comply
with
the
annual
rental
housing
fee.
In
order
for
the
csf
rate
program
to
remain
effective
and
efficient
and
with
the
property
anticipating
that
it
will
have
any
effect
on
the
budget.
G
But
we
do
anticipate
workload,
will
increase
or
stay
high
for
staff
and
will
be
less
effective
if
we
do
not
have
a
complete
and
robust
property
registration.
M
J
I
did
not
ask
that
recently
of
the
other
jurisdictions,
but
we
can
definitely
bring
back
an
agenda
item
on
following
steps.
So
far,
the
rental
housing
committee
has
only
authorized
sending
out
a
friendly
reminder
of
the
invoices
and
not
take
any
further
steps,
but
we
can
definitely
bring
back
an
agenda
item
with
all
the
options
for
you
to
choose
from.
M
Is
is
there
is,
are
there
rates
similar?
I
mean,
I
guess,
do
we?
How
do
we
compare
on
that
front
from
a
collection?
I.
M
And
related,
I
guess
the
database
compliance
you
know.
Database
is
new
for
us,
but
I
believe
that
some
other
jurisdictions
have
had
it
in
place
for
a
little
longer
than
us.
Similar
any
comment
there.
F
I
I'd
like
to
delve
more
deeply
into
this
and,
if
future
agendas,
I
think
it
may
be
time
for
us
to
figure
out
what
next
steps
we
can
take,
especially
with
those
who
are
ignoring
us
for
two
years.
F
G
However,
we
we
do
not
charge
that
if,
if
we're,
assuming
that,
we
have
bad
contact
information
for
the
person,
but
we're
definitely
adding
on
that
one
percent
per
month
to
you
know
the
rest
of
the
invoices
and
especially
those
who
have
paid
some
invoices
and
not
other
invoices,
and
it's
it's
just
obvious
at
the
time
that
we
do
have
correct
contact
information.
However,
they're
just
still
delinquent
on
the
invoice.
E
But
like
they
don't
have
to
come
to
you
and
say
hey.
This
went
to
the
totally
wrong
property
management
company
that
I
haven't
used
in
three
years.
You
proactively
go
hey.
I
had
to
update
the
database
again
since
it
didn't
speak
to
one
another
last
time,
we're
going
to
waive
that
one
percent
city
right
perfect.
Thank
you
right.
Yeah.
G
We're
proactively
searching
and
hunting
down
correct
contact
information.
D
Okay,
so
this
is
feeling
a
little
bit
unfair,
especially
in
light
of
the
pandemic
and
how
some
landlords
didn't
receive
rent.
Is
there
an
any
other
form
that
we
can
make
landlords
register
without
charging
a
fee
for
not
doing
so?
D
I
don't
know
I
just
want
to
think
out
of
the
box
and
thinking
and
feeling,
just
as
I
felt
pain
for
the
renters.
I
believe
that
landlords
also
felt
some
pain,
especially
those
especially
the
ones
that
are
mom
and
pop
shops.
G
So
the
two
things
are
separate:
the
rental
housing
fee
actually
funds
the
budget
for
the
entire
program,
and
then
property
registration
is
new.
It
was
just
passed
last
year
by
the
committee
and
they
sort
of
roll
out
together.
So
that's
why
I'm
doing
an
update
on
both
of
them.
G
At
the
same
time,
however,
the
fee
is
not
just
for
landlords
to
register
their
property
and
when
we
did
our
budget
conversations
last
year,
we
did
have
the
pandemic
in
mind
and
that's
why
we
made
a
big
effort,
or
the
committee
made
a
big
effort
to
try
to
reduce
the
fee
substantially
per
unit,
to
keep
in
mind
that
landlords,
and
especially,
like
you
said,
small
landlords-
could
be
hurting
as
well
at
this
time.
So
we
tried
to
reduce
the
fee
as
much
as
we
could
at
the
time.
With
that
in
mind,.
A
That's
andrea.
I
had
a
quick
question:
what
is
the
biggest
cause
of
incorrect
contact
information.
G
I
think
there's
two
one
is
that
it's
simply
outdated
and
has
been
for
a
while
and
second
it
is
that
the
owner
has
changed.
Property
management
companies
and
the
property
management
company
is
no
longer
in
charge
of
that
building
and
they're,
not
forwarding
the
information
to
the
owner
and
the
only
reason
we
actually
get
to
know
about
those,
because
the
property
management
company
will
call
and
say,
hey,
we're,
no
longer
managing
this
property
and
then
that's
when
we
go
and
hunt
down
the
correct
property
owner
information.
G
A
Seeing
none
we're
going
to
move
to
public
comment.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raised
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announcement.
1
minute
remains
and
we
have
a
couple
hands
up
so
jeff
cell.
A
N
N
All
right
I'll
try
to
get
all
this
in.
Where
are
my
notes
at
again?
N
Oh
regarding
the
the
webinars
and
the
outreach
and
stuff.
There
are
no
stats
in
there
about
how
many
landlords
attended,
and
that
would
be
great
information,
though,
because
I
know
the
webinar
from
my
place
premium,
pretty
useless
what
is
defined
as
successful.
I
heard
you
said
they
were
successful.
How
do
you
define
that
success
did
not
see
that
in
there
for
the
most
part,
the
webinar
is
why
I
don't
find
them
useful.
N
N
If
you
understood
the
process
you,
you
would
probably
understand
why
that
money
is
going
to
go
to
waste,
and
I
will
predict
that
this
time
next
year
we'll
come
back
and
the
number
is
going
to
be
zero,
successful
defenses
and
I
will
be
right.
So
I'm
going
to
say,
I
would
like
to
see
part
of
this
a
more
collaborative.
So
you
can
understand
what
actually
is
going
on
from
a
landlord
perspective,
rather
than
taking
guesses
that
are
uninformed
and
uneducated
and.
N
A
Thank
you,
mr
zell,
for
your
update
on
invoicing
for
csfra
annual
rental
housing
fees
and
csfra
database
registration
progress.
Next
up,
we
have
alexander
brown.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comment.
Alexander
brown,
we'll
bring
it,
but
I
see
no
other
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak,
so
I
will
bring
it
back
for
the
committee
to
deliberate
and
deliberate
and
provide
feedback.
M
I
guess,
as
we
debate
future
agenda
items
at
the
end
of
this
meeting,
you
know
I
think
there
is
some
someone
had
mentioned.
Looking
you
know
outside
the
box,
we
had
heard
from
landlords
that
you
know.
If
you
have
a
unit,
that's
covet
affected
right.
You
haven't
been
collecting
rent
for
the
past
year.
Perhaps
we
could
have
forgiveness
for
those
units,
I'm
not
sure
how
prevalent
that
is.
But
that
may
be
something
you
want
to
think
about.
M
As
we
think
about
balance,
it
does
seem
like
if
we
are
putting
money
toward
a
program
for
tenant
defense,
that
the
landlords
who
haven't
been
able
to
collect
on
those
may
may
be
able
to
skip
the
fear.
We
may
be
able
to
yeah
relieve
them
of
the
feet,
but
again,
I'm
not
sure
how
prevalent
it
is,
but
just
an
idea
that's
been
presented
by
former
by
that
we've
heard
from
other.
A
Landlords,
thank
you,
committee,
member
grunwald.
Do
you
have
any
other
comments.
A
Shy
bunch
all
right,
so
seeing
no
other
comments
the
stuff
over
everything
they
need
in
terms
of
feedback
from
us.
A
J
Hi,
okay!
Next,
I
next
agenda
item.
J
Did
you
grab
the
latest
powerpoint
presentation?
I.
A
J
So
every
year
the
rental
housing
committee
deliberates
and
nominates
and
elects
one
member
of
the
roundhousing
committee
as
a
chair
and
one
as
a
vice
chair,
and
these
terms
are
for
one
year
and
they
run
from
may
1st
till
the
end
of
april
of
the
next
year.
So
for
this
year
we're
looking
for
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair,
starting
on
may
1
and
ending
on
april
30
in
2022,
and
the
memo
gives
an
overview
of
the
powers
and
duties.
I
will
not
go
over
them
all.
J
You
may
see
that
in
the
notice,
but
one
of
them
is
to
preside
at
all.
Meetings
of
the
committee
sign
the
written
resolutions
and
any
other
duty
that
may
be
required
in
the
csf
array
and
then
the
vice
chairs,
powers
and
duties
are
mostly
for
when
the
chair
is
being
disposed
and
which
may
or
may
not
be
required
by
state
law
or
other
laws.
We
haven't
had
any
such
situation
happening
in
front
of
us
in
the
past
four
or
five
years.
J
The
deliberate
relations
to
the
rental
housing
committee
in
the
past
years,
we
have
rotated
on
an
that
where
the
whereby
the
vice
chair
becomes
the
chair
and
we
vote
for
a
new
vice
chair
based
on
the
year.
They
were
coming
into
the
rental
housing
committee,
but
that
is
just
something
that
was
customary
in
the
past.
So
I
will
hand
it
back
over
to
you
emily.
A
No
questions
all
right.
We
are
now
going
to
go
to
public
comments.
Would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains.
You
will
have
3
minutes,
so
I
will
start
with
ellie.
P
Green,
can
you
guys
see
me
alright?
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of.
Oh
god,
sorry,
my
graduation
picture
popped
up,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
shay
ramos
and
to
vice
chair
almond
for
leading
this
committee
for
the
past
year,
and
all
of
you
are
incredibly
qualified
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
this
committee
continues
to
do
over
the
course
of
the
next
year.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
alexander
brown.
A
Thank
you,
alexander
brown.
I
am,
I
see
no
other
comments,
so
I
am
going
to
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
for
committee,
deliberation
and
votes.
You
could
remove
the
screen
sharing
so
that
we
can
see
each
other
and
properly
bond.
A
So
it
has
been
a
really
big
honor
to
be
the
chair
for
the
past
year.
Zoom
chair
at
that
wanted
to
gavel
on
everything,
but
it
has
has
been
an
honor.
I'm
excited
to
see
what
this
new
community
will
bring
forth,
and
this
has
always
been
awkward.
A
I
remember
when
committee
member
grinwall
was
just
like
it's
really
awkward
to
see
like
who's
gonna
nominate
who
so
I'm
gonna
just
take
the
awkwardness
out
and
just
move
forward
with
nominating
making
a
motion
to
nominate
vice
chair
almond
to
the
chairmanship
and
committee
member
haines
libsay
to
the
vice
chairmanship.
D
I
would
like
to
nominate
for
chair
councilm,
sorry,
rit,
remember
ramos
and
for
rice,
chair
almond,
rice,
chair
almond,.
D
D
My
understanding,
oops,
okay,
sorry
for
the
protocols.
I
guess
I
misunderstood
what
we're
doing.
I
will
go
ahead
and
withdraw
my
motion
because
I
think
it's
out
of
line
I
mean
at
a
particle
and
then
I
will
continue
with
the
process.
A
So
I
beat
emotion
on
the
floor.
Does
anyone
want
to
second
it.
F
L
That
is
convention
that
is
not
in
your
rules
of
conduct
chapter
three,
if
there
isn't
a
term
limit
on
chair
and
vice
chair,
very
good.
Thank.
A
A
Passing
the
baton
on,
I
do
believe
that
I
think
vice
chair,
allman
and
committee
member
hayes
lucey
will
do
a
wonderful
job
as
chair
and
vice
chair
duos.
I'm
excited
to
see
what
they
have
and
it
is
it's
so
important
to
to
share
leadership
when
the
opportunity
arises
as
well.
I'm
sad
I
was
a
zoom
chair.
It
looks
like
committing
vice
chair.
Allman
was,
will
be
a
zoom
chair,
at
least
in
the
near
form.
Hopefully,
one
day
you
will
be
a
real
chair
with
a
gavel
and
everything.
A
Is
there
committee
member,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
D
Yes,
but
I
took
it
down
now,
so
I
think
okay,
okay,
so
I
will
okay,
so
steve
things
are
what
they
are
and,
as
I
have
seen
chair
ramos
do
a
great
job.
This
is
my
first
one,
so
I
mean
I
like
status
quo.
So,
but
if
not
I
I
do
know
that
chair
I
mean
vice
chair
almond.
D
She
definitely
did
a
great
job.
So
I
heard
really
good
things
about
her.
I've
heard
things
really
good
things
about
her
within
the
community,
so
I
will
be
voting
for
chairman
almond
as
as
chair
and
vice
chair,
oh
yeah.
Oh
my
god,.
D
I'm
sorry,
that's
not
what
I
wanted
to
do,
but
but
me
being
my
first
year
first
meeting,
I
I
will
ask
for
a
little
bit
of
patience.
There.
You
go.
A
E
F
I'll
echo
the
same
thing
very
awkward,
but
I
think
chair
ramos
has
done
a
terrific
job
this
year
and
I
really
appreciate
your
leadership.
It's
been
great.
H
D
Congratulations
chair
future
chair
man
omen
and
congratulations.
Vice
chair
len
hensei
did
I
say
that
right.
E
That's
okay,
it
is
you
can
just
use
haynes
or
nicole
or
I'm
serious.
If
the
box
moves
on
you
that
one
over
there
also
is
viable,
but
no,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
congratulations.
Vice
chair
almond,
now,
chair
almond,
and
is
there
a
gavel
we
could
electronically
pass
at
the
next
meeting
graphically?
Can
we
get
that
in
the
slide
deck
please.
K
So
the
first
section
of
item
10
is
our
monthly
status
report.
Since
this
is
the
end
of
the
quarter,
it
will
be
one
of
the
more
detailed
ones
so
we'll
break
it
down
here,
as
mentioned
in
last
month's.
K
Rhc
meeting
steph
has
started
to
input
our
own
inquiry
data,
not
just
the
data
that
comes
from
project
sentinel
into
these
numbers.
So
that's
why
there
is
a
jump
here
and
you'll
see
that
we
have
provided
a
lot
of
support
for
property
owners
and
that
other
bucket
is
a
little
higher
as
well
with
903
public
inquiries.
So
this
is
basically
what
this
is
telling.
You
is
the
initial
touch
point,
so
it's
not
how
many
times
we
go
back
and
forth
and
communicate
with
each
case.
K
This
is
the
number
of
cases
that
we
have
so
far
this
year.
So
we
have
903
479
of
those
are
from
tenants
and
361
is
providing
support
to
property
owners
and
landlords,
and
through
the
helpline
we've
supported
130
cases
with
spanish
as
a
primary
language,
which
is
20
of
all
of
the
inquiries
through
the
helpline.
K
You
can
see
this
further
broken
down
in
our
charts.
Here.
We've
broken
this
down
into
also
having
data
from
the
helpline
and
from
our
now
data
that
is
covid
related.
So,
basically,
what
this
is
saying
is
of
all
of
these
public
inquiry
topics.
K
We
received
this
many
that
are
also
related
to
covid,
so
these
numbers
are
inclusive,
not
separate
of
each
other
for
workshops
and
outreach.
We've
done
quite
a
bit
of
workshops
and
quite
a
bit
of
outreach
this
year.
Obviously,
all
of
it
all
the
workshops
and
office
hours
are
virtual.
However,
we
have
partnered
with
some
of
our
community
organizations
to
get
information
to
people
live
and
in
person,
while
we
are
unable
to
provide
it.
K
K
We
have
virtual
office
hours
as
mentioned
every
friday
now,
and
those
provide
support
for
two
hours
a
day
and
also
two
hours
every
friday
and
people
can
obviously
also
just
schedule
a
zoom
meeting
with
us
at
any
time
just
like
they
would
be
able
to
come
into
our
offices
if
we
were
open
and
we've
had
34
community
members
join
us
either
for
our
virtual
office
hours
or
for
that
one-on-one
support.
That's
provided
outside
of
those
hours
we've
sent
off
five
mailings
so
far,
we've
sent
26
email
updates
and
we've
had.
K
13
mountain
view
voice
ads,
and
we
have
seen
an
increase
in
registration
and
webinar
participation
when
we
do
send
out
mailers
and
have
those
ads
running
so
they
are,
they
are
seemingly
effective,
which
is
good
and
we
did
send
out.
I
believe
we
mentioned
this.
Last
month
we
sent
out
a
landlord-specific
newsletter
that
had
information
about
the
eviction
moratorium,
rent
relief
through
the
state,
all
of
our
webinars,
all
of
the
major
changes
that
have
gone
through
the
rhc
or
greatly
impact
property
owners,
and
we
also
included
the
actual
temporary
rent
adjustment.
K
We
included
that
template
in
with
the
news
that
are
in
all
three
languages,
so
landlords
actually
have
a
hard
copy
of
that,
so
they
can
see
what
they
they
need
to
be
filing
with
us
if
they
wanted
to
do
or
what
they
needed
to
be
getting
to
the
tenant.
K
If
they
wanted
to
do
that
and
still
be
in
compliance
with
the
regulations
we
have
had
through
the
mediation
program
and
the
rental
housing
helpline,
93
mediations
and
conciliations
with
79
of
those
actually
being
fully
resolved,
we
have
nine
that
are
still
pending,
so
those
outcomes
are
looking
strong.
This
year
and
again,
the
mediation
program
is
a
one
of
those
wraparound
services
that
will
be
part
of
the
new
eviction,
defense
eviction,
prevention
and
defense
program
that
you
approved
this
evening.
K
It's
obviously
something
that
has
been
here
for
a
long
time
and
actually
for
the
mountain
view
community.
It's
been
here
for
about
45
years
over
45
years,
so
it
has
a
long-standing
history
in
the
community
and
it
provides
services
for
both
landlords
and
tenants,
as
well
as
anyone
else
in
the
community,
but
we're
very
lucky
that
that
we
have
this
great
service
here
and
it's
provided
in
any
language
you
can
think
of,
and
definitely
and
always
in
spanish
and
english,
if
needed,
for
our
required
noticing.
K
We've
received
six
thanked,
rent
increase
notices
this
fiscal
year
we've
had
522
termination,
notices,
zero
tenant,
buyout
notices
and
two
additional
occupant
notices
to
see
the
breakdown
of
noticing.
Here
we
have
received
only
one
no-fault
notice
for
withdrawal
of
units
very
early
in
the
fiscal
year,
and
we've
had
three
at
fault,
notices
that
were
not
failure
to
pay
rent.
As
you
can
see
here,
we
are
seeing
the
expected
uptick
in
failure
to
pay
rent
notices.
Again,
these
all
now
fall
under
the
state's
15-day
notice
to
pay
rent
or
quit
requirement.
K
Then
they
have
to
be
filed
for
tenants
to
receive
protections,
so
these
are
going
up,
but
we've
also
not
received
any
notices
saying
that
the
tenancy
has
ended
or
gone
to
ud
court.
So
you
know
again
we're
we're
watching
these
closely
and
we'll
continue
to.
K
Watch
them
closely
as
we
consider
how
to
wrap
in
the
new
program
and
its
services
as
well
for
tenant
relocation
assistance.
We
have
zero
for
2021,
so
far
of
properties
going
into
redevelopment
for
zero
units
affected,
and
then
we've
had
12
households
that
have
received
assistance
so
far
this
calendar
year.
So
again,
that's
for
properties
that
were
already
in
tenant
relocation
before
this
calendar
year
and
then
for
petitions.
K
We
have
20
total
petitions
this
year
there
are
still
a
few
in
the
hearing
process.
We
have
seven
that
were
decided
and
one
that
was
settled
and
five
that
are
just
hanging
out
in
review
and
once
the
fiscal
year
rolls
over
we'll
go
into
these
petitions
were
never
completed
with
the
city
for
market
conditions,
we're
starting
to
see
some
some
stabilization
in
the
market.
K
We
have
a
vacancy
rate
right
now,
pulling
from
costar
of
10.1
for
fully
covered
units
which,
as
you
can
see,
has
pretty
much
stabilized
quarter
to
quarter.
It
actually
dropped
a
little
bit
from
the
last
quarter
and
all
units
across
the
city
continue
to
be
at
an
increased
rate
of
vacancy
than
pre-pandemic
levels
for
fully
covered
units.
K
For
rent,
that
also
is
starting
to
stabilize
and
actually
has
ticked
back
up,
as
you
can
see
here
and
is
now
at
2
392
a
unit
for
fully
covered
units
and
again
everything
is,
is
kind
of
trending
towards
stable
numbers
are
starting
to
increase
again
for
rate
rent
rates
for
sales.
K
We
have
had
three
properties
being
sold
in
the
fiscal
year
for
a
total
of
128
units.
Again
as
as
I
noted,
none
of
them
have
gone
into
redevelopment.
K
We
have
three
properties
that
are
currently
for
sale
for
a
total
of
89
units
and,
as
you
might
notice
here,
really
seeing
a
down
tick
in
the
number
of
properties
being
sold
since
2015-16
fiscal
year,
pre-pandemic
and
and
currently
in
the
market,
and
then
here
for
the
last
piece
of
the
overview
is
something
that
we've
already
looked
at
tonight,
which
is
the
mnoi
cpi,
and
as
mentioned
earlier,
it's
26
for
the
rent
of
primary
residence,
24
for
the
housing
index
and
18
for
all
items.
K
G
G
So
we
do
break
these
out
into
landlord-focused
workshops
sort
of
more
during
the
work
day
hours
and
these
are
strictly
in
english,
and
then
we
do
have
our
tenant-focused
bilingual
webinars
in
the
evenings
for
those
tenants
who
are
speaking
english
and
spanish,
and
so
we're
also
going
to
be
focusing
a
lot
on
the
rat
and
relief
portion
of
the
eviction
moratorium
in
these
upcoming
webinars,
both
for
landlords
and
from
attendance,
and
we
do
have
emily
or
somebody
from
project
sentinel
come
in
because
they
are
expert
in
that
topic
to
help
people
and
answer
questions
and
let
them
know
where
they
can
get
help.
K
G
G
You
have
to
income
qualify,
so
the
tenants
have
to
make
80
or
less
of
their
area
median
income,
but
those
that
are
making
less
than
50
are
prioritized
and
anki
did
cover
this
and
had
a
screenshot
of
the
website
at
housing
is
key.com
and
also
the
mountain
view.
Rental
housing
helpline
on
project
fentanyl
is,
is
really
able
to
provide
assistance
to
both
tenants
and
landlords
to
apply
for
this
program,
because
the
application
process
can
be
a
little
confusing.
G
So
we
have
that
resource
as
well,
and
then
this
is
our
sort
of
tenant
focus
relief
program.
So
we
do
have
the
one
through
the
city
that's
run
by
csa
and
that
there
is
still
funding
available
for
that
again.
G
Tenants
have
to
income
qualify
and
be
directly
affected
financially
by
coven19,
and
this
assistance
is
paid
straight
to
the
landlord
and
they
encourage
people,
email
them
to
get
the
application
and
start
the
process
and
again,
assistance
is
about
two
thousand
dollars
a
check
on
average
and
they
are
beginning
to
send
out
more
third
month
rental
assistance
to
more
people
in
need.
So
we
are
encouraging
anybody
on
the
line
to
continue
to
apply
or,
if
you
all
are
talking
to
the
community.
G
They
can
continue
to
apply
and
there
are
still
funds
available,
and
so
we
also
have
the
county
program
here.
Helplessness
prevention
system,
so
that's
sort
of
always
around
offering
services
to
very
low
income,
households
and
those
who
are
at
high
risk
of
homelessness
and
they're,
also
going
to
be
having
rent
relief
for
covet.
19
affected
households
as
well-
and
this
is
their
contact
information.
But
again
the
rental
housing
helpline
is
able
to
direct
people
to
the
right
funds
that
would
suit
their
needs
the
best
and
help
them
fill
out.
G
The
application
for
the
correct
pot
of
money
and
rent
assistance
that
they're
going
to
need.
K
And
that
county
program
that
andrea
mentioned
is
slated
to
launch
in
mid-may
and
will
be
for
just
like
the
homelessness
prevention
system
is
here
for
our
most
vulnerable
population,
at
30
percent
of
ami
and
below.
G
Very
low
income
right,
so
we
also
have
a
mortgage
relief
program
so
that
as
funds
are
available
through
sb
91,
two
small
landlords
who
are
having
difficulty
paying
their
mortgage.
So
we
have
the
definition
here
of
small
landlords.
G
G
For
anybody
who
needs
mortgage
counseling,
not
just
because
of
that
pandemic,
but
just
in
general.
So
we
will
definitely
be
advertising.
Those
and
encouraging
people
to
to
join
those
webinars.
G
And,
of
course,
we
still
have
the
utility
relief
program
through
the
city.
Again,
this
is
you.
You
have
to
income
qualify
for
this
program,
but
this
is
for
anybody
in
mountain
view,
not
just
tenants
or
landlords,
just
any
resident
of
the
city
of
mountain
view,
who
is
having
a
hardship
financially
related
to
copen19,
and
you
can
still
apply
for
that
one
time.
G
Fifty
dollar
credit
to
one
of
your
utility
bills
and,
of
course,
still
at
this
time,
the
services
are
not
going
to
be
shut
off
for
non-payment
and
penalties
and
interests
are
going
to
be
waged
at
this
time.
G
Program,
okay,
so
we
also
have
a
list
here
of
our
upcoming
webinars
and
our
office
hours.
So
we
are
having
a
csf
array
sort
of
realtors
workshop.
This
is
our
first
realtor-focused
webinar
that
we're
going
to
be
holding
on
may
13th
at
10
a.m.
So
we're
going
to
be
doing
targeted,
outreach
to
realtors
that
work
in
the
city
of
mountain
view
and
sort
of
the
surrounding
area
to
educate
them
about
rent
stabilization
and
answer
any
questions
they
may
have
for
sellers
or
for
buyers
and
for
their
business.
So
that's
pretty
exciting.
G
We're
going
to
have
a
habitability,
maintaining
habitability,
webinar,
that
is
tennis,
tenant,
focused
and,
of
course,
bilingual,
and
we
did
have
a
landlord-focused
one
earlier.
So
this
one
will
be
geared
more
towards
tenants
and
then
we
are
continuing
with
our
property
registration
for
a
landlord.
So
we
will
be
sending
out
more
communications
about
registration
which
usually
ticks
up
people's
interest
in
you
know,
attending
these
webinars
and
learning
how
to
use
the
online
tool.
G
So
that's
coming
up.
We
also
have
our
office
hours
that
we
are
doing
every
single
friday
from
one
to
three
and
you
can
just
register
for
those
on
our
website
and
we're
continuing
with
our
virtual
coffee
catch-ups
with
small
landlords,
so
the
next
one's
going
to
be
may
25th
at
10
a.m
and
we'll
answer
questions
about
anything
of
course.
But
we
are,
you
know,
advertising
them
a
little
bit
with
this
state,
rep
relief,
application
in
mind.
G
We
had
our
first
one
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
had
a
few
landlords
come
and
they
really
enjoyed
it,
and
it
was
really
good
just
to
have
one-on-one
small
group
interaction
like
open
discussion
with
the
landlords
and
the
landlords
actually
learned
a
lot
from
each
other
and
from
staff,
and
we
got
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
was
going
on
in
the
community.
So
that
was
really
really
nice
to
do
so.
We're
definitely
going
to
be
continuing
with
these.
K
Sorry
about
that
everyone
I
started
thinking
I
was
in
may.
A
A
Any
questions
from
committee
members
on
future
agenda
items
or
anything
such
as
that
this
is
my
last
time
as
chairman,
just
milking
it
for
a
while,
okay
with
nothing
else,
I
think
we're
ready
to
adjourn
so
the
meeting
is
adjourned
at
10
04
pm.