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From YouTube: 5-17-2021 - Mountain Rental Housing Committee Meeting
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Live teleconference meeting of the Mountain View Rental Housing Committee Meeting scheduled for Monday, May 17, 2021.
Live Video Conference: YouTube, mountainview.legistar.com, and Comcast Channel 26.
B
D
A
E
F
I
just
wanted
to
commemoralize
that
we've
been
holding
rental
housing
committee
members
for
the
last
four
years
and
this
is
our
50th
meeting.
So
congratulations
to
you
all
you've
accomplished
a
lot
in
the
past
four
years
and
I
think
we're
an
efficiently
running
rental
housing
program.
So
congratulations.
B
G
Oh,
is
me
passing
the
gavel
off
to
susan?
Oh,
how
wonderful
so
I
don't
have
a
physical
babble
to
pass
it
off.
So
it's
on
the
screen.
Congratulations!
Cher!
Allman!
I
hope
you
have
a
lot
of
fun
doing
this.
I
actually
certainly
had
a
lot
of
fun
doing
this
and
congratulations
on
leading
this
new
committee.
B
Thank
you
emily
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
your
patience
and
your
ability
to
sort
of
troubleshoot
when
we
started
this
on
zoom.
You
know
we
all
didn't
know
how
it
would.
It
seems
like
it
went
seamlessly
and
I'm
sure
that's
also
due
to
the
it's
and
our
staff,
but
emily
you
put
in
lots
of
hours,
and
I
really
really
appreciate
all
that
you've
done
and
I'm
sure
everybody
else
does
too.
B
A
B
B
Okay
and
we
have
no
consent
calendar,
so
we'll
move
to
oral
communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
committee
on
any
matter,
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
this
section.
State
law
prohibits
the
committee
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items.
B
B
A
There
are
no
comments
at
this
time.
Okay,.
B
Okay
and
we
have
no
appeal
hearing
no
public
hearing,
so
we
move
on
to
new
business.
F
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
chair
almond
and
rental
housing
committee
members
tonight
is
the
first
presentation
with
regards
to
the
budget
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
F
So
we
would
like
to
preface
the
budget
discussions
by
acknowledging
the
continued
financial
impacts
that
covet
19
pandemic
is
causing
rent
relief,
programs
and
stimulus
programs
have
been
enacted
to
mitigate
against
economic
impacts
that
residents
and
landlords
in
our
community
are
facing
the
anticipated
ending
of
the
statewide
eviction.
Moratorium
on
june
30
of
this
year
might
result
in
unknown
economic
and
judicial
impacts
on
the
residents
and
the
rental
housing
market.
F
On
this
slide,
you
can
see
an
outline
for
the
items
that
we
will
be
discussing
this
evening
and
after
discussing
the
items,
we
are
requesting
any
input
and
direction
by
the
public
and
the
committee,
the
next
step
after
that
would
be
to
bring
back
the
budget
in
a
following
meeting.
So
the
rental
housing
committee
can
adopt
a
budget
and
a
fee.
F
So
for
fiscal
year
2021
most
notably,
the
revenues
are
estimated
at
1.14
million,
which
is
about
11
lower
than
the
adopted
budget
at
1.28
million,
and
the
total
operating
expenditures
are
estimated
at
1.05
million,
which
is
about
600
000
less
than
adopted
this
result.
This
was
the
result
from
a
vacant
position,
a
less
than
anticipated
need
for
hearing
officers
and
facilitation
services,
some
staff
time
charged
to
the
housing,
neighborhood
services
and
other
community
development
department
programs.
F
F
And
this
is
an
overview
of
the
program
fees
per
unit
that
were
adopted
by
the
rental
housing
committee
over
time.
As
you
can
see
last
year
there
was
this
unique
situation
whereby
we
used
a
lot
of
previous
years
amounts
to
make
this
a
specific
lower
fee
than
we
would
normally
recommend.
I
think
the
recommended
fee
at
the
start
of
our
discussion
was
99.
F
So,
first
we'll
look
at
the
personnel
expenditure
proposal.
Staff
has
included
the
following
staff
in
the
recommended
budget
in
accordance
with
the
adopted
staff
plan
earlier
in
the
year
for
a
total
of
991
thousand
dollars,
five
dedicated
full-time
personnel
are
included.
D
F
So
the
second
category
of
expenditures
are
the
general
operating
expenses
for
a
total
of
176
thousand
dollars.
This
outreach,
printing
and
mailing
materials
for
a
total
of
150
000
advertising
costs,
training
costs,
furniture
and
equipment.
Considering
we
have
two
new
staff
coming
on
board
and
general
office
expenses.
F
Then
the
third
category
of
expenditures
is
the
third
party
professional
services
for
a
total
amount
of
569
000,
and
this
is
a
list
of
all
the
outside
services
that
we
are
using
and
we
propose
to
continue
our
combined
staff
versus
third-party
provider
combination
for
our
program
with
outside
legal
services,
maintaining
at
a
level
of
175
000.
F
The
mountain
view
rental
house
line
helpline
indispensable
for
us
to
answer
day-to-day
questions
from
landlords
and
tenants
hearing
officer
services.
We
maintain
that
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
litigation
services,
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
newly
adopted
eviction
program
services
for
forty
five
thousand
dollars
slightly
lower
amount
for
the
pre-hearing
settlement
conferences
and
we
are
maintaining
the
same
level
of
service
for
tenant,
relocation,
services,
facilitation
services,
our
broadcasting
km
vt.
Thank
you
guys
and
the
translation
services
for
five
thousand.
F
F
I
also
wanted
to
mention
for
a
previous
slide,
that
the
total
of
569
000
compares
to
555
000
for
the
current
year.
The
major
changes
are
less
25,
000
for
litigation
costs
and,
of
course,
the
additional
45
000
for
the
eviction
services
next
slide,
so
3di
is
continuing
to
further
develop
features
for
the
database
system
for
the
csfra.
F
You
might
say
when
is
the
next
phase
due
but
they're
in
the
middle
of
a
long
process
of
trying
to
incorporate
our
whole
petition
process
into
the
database.
So
that
is
taking
quite
some
time
and
it
is
a
complicated
work
but
they're
working
on
it
and
we're
seeing
progress
from
week
to
week.
So
the
money
will
be
rebudgeted
that
was
left
over
from
this
year's
budget
of
a
total
of
120
and
and
we're
also
reserving
our
yearly
software
license
fees
first
for
the
3di
hosting
of
our
database
and
also
for
costar.
F
It's
it's
budgeted
for
indirect
costs
related
to
the
implementation
operation
of
the
program.
Utilizing
the
city
resources
eliminates
the
need
for
directly
and
independently
obtain
additional
personnel
or
services
and
indirect
costs
include
finance
admin
and
administrative
services
there.
They
were
wonderful
in
helping
us
put
together
today's
budget
proposal.
They
do
accounts
receivable
and
payable.
They
do
payroll
services
purchasing
and
contracts.
F
So
the
budget
is
adopted
annually
and
any
funds
that
are
not
spent
or
legally
encumbered,
meaning
contracted
or
committed
would
lapse
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
But
there's
one
item
staff
would
like
to
propose
to
be
re-budgeted,
and
this
is
an
item
that
was
one
time
in
nature,
including
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
and
the
purpose
continues
to
exist,
and
that
is
the
money
for
the
iet
database
system.
F
F
Then
the
rental
housing
committee
also
has
decided,
over
the
last
couple
of
years
to
establish
a
20
reserve
for
the
csfra
and
a
reserve
is
typically
established
to
protect
against
declines
in
revenues
or
if
additional
unforeseen
expenditures
would
be
required
during
the
fiscal
year,
except
example.
Of
this
could
be
that
actual
litigation
costs
might
exceed
what
is
budgeted.
F
F
So,
since
the
csfra
is
a
full
cost
recovery
program,
an
annual
fee
has
to
be
established,
and
that
is
calculated
by
picking
the
total
budget
minus
the
ending
balance
and
re-budget
divided
by
the
total
number
of
fully
and
partially
covered
units.
F
F
F
F
Okay,
so
this
recommended
budget
represents
staff,
best
estimates
of
all
the
services
that
will
be
needed
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
taking
into
account
new
programs
that
the
real
housing
committee
adopted
and
if
any
expenditures
are
reduced
in
the
budget,
the
proposed
fee
could
be
reduced
accordingly
and
an
increase
in
the
budget
would
increase
the
proposed
fee.
F
F
Actually,
we
do
delivery,
you
do
you
and
the
rental
housing
committee
has
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
of
staff.
First,
then
we
go
to
public
comments
and
then
it
goes
back
to
the
rental
housing
committee
for
deliberations.
F
B
F
Actually,
the
secretary
position:
there
was
already
an
office
administration
right
position
and
we
just
leveled
that
position
up
to
a
secretary
level
and
the
rental
housing
committee
approved
one
additional
staff,
a
senior
management
analyst.
F
That
that
needs
to
be
an
hr
process,
and
maybe
some
of
our
staff
might
apply
for
that
position.
But
you
have
to
formally
apply
for
each
position
in
the
city.
B
H
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
benchmark
on
the
litigation
estimates.
I
know
we're
bringing
it
down
by
25
000
roughly
year
over
year
about
how
much
have
we
spent
in
litigation
costs
in
the
past.
Let's
say
two
to
three
years
like
each
year,
roughly
yeah.
F
I
think
so
at
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
we
started
the
first
year
we
started
with
two
lawsuits
and
one
of
them
got
resolved
at
earlier,
and
so
we
have
one
lawsuit
left
and
I
think,
most
of
the
years
the
costs
were
in
the
ballpark
of.
If
I
remember
correctly,
I
would
say,
between
75
and
85
000.
G
Just
a
quick
question
of
numbers,
so
your
recommendation
for
this
year
is
to
put
31
000
in
reserves
and
that
will
lead
to
a
total
of
how
many
reserves.
B
I
F
Oh,
you
want
me
to
do
that
by
hand.
I
Actually,
maybe
patricia,
since
you
said
she's
already
got,
the
set
looks
like
she's
already
got
the
calculator
out
based
on
the
last
calculation,
but
I'll
ask
just
a
general
question.
I
guess
you
can
get
back
to
me
on
that.
I
had
a
few
questions,
so
the
new
eviction
services
pilot
that
we
approved
last
meeting
does
that
require
additional
administrative
time.
F
F
F
Is
there
any
extra
time
involved
with
yeah
we
probably
for
the
startup
and
the
development
of
the
program,
to
make
it
a
coherent
plan
and
to
make
it
run
smoothly?
We
probably
have
to
kind
of
put
some
extra
work
in
there.
I
think
once
it
the
process
is
established.
F
I
Got
it
so
and
and
sorry
some
context
for
wyoming's
asking
the
question
and
to
my
next
question
I
thought
from
the
presentation
last
time.
The
city
was
also.
F
Actually,
I
did
hear
that
there
was
in
the
meeting
after
the
rental
housing
committee
meeting.
There
was
a
meeting
where
priorities
were
discussed
and
some
amount
of
budget
was
reserved,
but
I
put
my
question
out
there
and
I
hope
I'm
going
to
get
an
answer
pretty
soon.
I
think
it
was
an
extra
fifty
thousand
dollars.
I
Where
I'm
going
is,
is
I'm
wondering
if,
when
it
comes
to
inter-departmental
like
when
we
help
the
city
out
with
with
programs,
or
we
decide
to
take
a
program
on
like
may
be
done
if,
when
the
city
kind
of
figures
out
their
plan
for
mobile
homes,
how
will
those
chargebacks
work
and
how
do
they
work
today?
I
So
yeah
specifically,
I
know
that
you,
you
and
staff,
worked
on
a
presentation
for
city
council
for
their
plan
about
mobile
homes
right
and
did
a
lot
of
research,
and
do
they
essentially
do
they
pay
us
for
part
of
your
salary.
F
I
I
see
and
and
how
much,
how
much
did
that
net
us
last
year.
I
guess.
F
I
did
not.
I
did
not
do
that
and
I
didn't
ask
that
information
from
hr.
So
I
don't
have
that
information,
okay,
and
that
is
that's
highly
variable
from
year
to
year
as
well.
I
Okay,
another
question
I
had
on
my
list
so
in
a
later
budget
later
item
for
today's
agenda,
we're
going
to
be
discussing
mnoi
petitions
and
volume
and
it
seemed
it
seems
as
though
that
volume
is
decreasing,
it
is
pretty
low,
but
we
may
expect
the
capital
improvement
petition
volume
increases
for
the
database.
I
F
Yeah
they're
in
the
middle
in
the
thick
of
it,
so
I
don't
know
if,
at
this
point
saying
we're
we're
were
shifting
over
to
capital
improvement
petitions.
If
that
would
make
a
lot
of
difference
in
the
cost,
I
think
we're
pretty
far
along,
but
we
can.
We
can
definitely
ask
them
how
and
and
how
much
that
that
would
differ
in
the
costs.
If
that's
what
your
question
is.
I
Yes,
yes,
I
guess
that's
the
question
behind
the
question.
Is
you
know
I'm
trying
to
look
line
item
by
line
on
them
and
see
if
we
can,
if
there's
a
path
towards
getting
to
a
fee
that
maintains
the
level
pre-covered
that
we
were
at
or
or
below?
I
F
Yeah
yeah
each
category
has
an
overview
of
services
and
of
course
we
don't
come
to
this
recommended
budget
lightly,
also
taking
into
account
you
would
expect
in
five
years.
F
Oh,
we
got
pretty
much
a
base
established
of
the
type
of
services
that
we
are
going
to
need
year
over
year,
but
I
don't
feel
we're
there
yet,
with
the
whole
petition
process,
we're
probably
going
to
switch
from
mnoi
to
capital
improvement
petitions,
no
idea
how
that
is,
going
to
influence
the
services
requested,
yeah
so
and
then
there's
going
to
be
tenant,
hardship,
petitions
maybe
related
to
the
capital
improvement
petitions.
F
So
again,
that
is
a
whole
new
program
that
we're
going
to
add,
and
it's
really
really
hard
to
estimate
how
many
petitions
would
come
in
for
that.
If
can
we
go
back
to
the
third
party?
Vendors
slide?
Could.
J
I
provide
a
little
clarification
and
answer
matt's
question
about
the
100
per
unit
reduction-
oh
perfect,
yeah,
so
to
provide
clarification
on
the
petitions
for
the
database
process.
The
same
process
would
have
to
go
through
the
system
to
build
out
for
the
capital
improvement
petitions
as
we're
building
for
in
the
middle
of
building
for
the
mnoi
petitions.
J
Basically,
once
we
have
one
built
for
landlord
petitions,
we
can
model
the
the
back
end
off
of
that
and
it
goes
very
quickly
from
there,
and
that
is
what
we
did
with
the
tenant
petitions
and
why
we
were
able
to
release
all
of
them
at
the
same
time.
Additionally,
we
have
the
other
new
petition
for
the
joint
petitions.
We
do
not
have
an
indicator
of
how
many
of
those
we're
going
to
see
either
so
related,
specifically
to
the
petition
process.
I
Thank
you
very
much.
Sorry.
I've
taken
up
a
lot
of
time
for
questions,
but
I
I
guess
honky
wha.
What
is.
F
D
F
Where
can
we
find
that
money
right
so
outside
legal
services
is
karen,
which
we
need
a
lot,
and
I
think
the
175
is
is
a
right
on
the
nose
for
our
yearly
budget
for
karen
the
amount
of
url
housing
helpline.
F
I
don't
think
we
can
shave
off
anything
if,
if
not
having
to
actually
not
considered
adding
to
it
in
the
past
five
years,
that
means
that
they
never
got
any
increase
in
their
hourly
cost
in
the
fi
in
the
five
previous
years,
then
the
hearing
officer
services
we
kept
it
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
not
like
previous
year,
not
knowing
what
will
be
coming
to
us
in
the
hopes
that
that
will
suffice
and,
as
patricia
just
explained,
there's
two
new
petition
process
programs
coming
on
board
and
we
hope
to
still
be
able
to
cover
that
with
the
and
maintained
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
budget,
then
litigation.
F
So
here's
the
consideration
that
a
rental
housing
committee
can
make.
If
you
say
well,
we
only
spent
45
000
last
year
this
year.
Why
don't?
Why?
Don't
we
just
make
it
50
000,
and
you
can
always
do
that.
But
then,
if
the
cost
will
go
higher,
we
have
to
take
money
out
of
the
reserve
or
come
back
mid-year
to
you
for
a
budget
adjustment.
F
So
those
are
the
considerations
you
have
to
make
as
a
rental
housing
committee,
the
eviction
services
we
just
adopted
this
program
so
not
sure
if
you
want
to
already
take
another
look
at
that,
then,
and
then
the
following
services
are
really
the
five
thousand
dollars
are
really
covering
the
basics,
and
if
we
don't
have
that
amount,
we
don't
have
that
service.
It's
simple
as
that.
I
If
I
could
ask
about
a
couple
at
just
a
few
hours
there,
the
for
the
helpline,
you
know,
I
noticed
that's
an
hourly
like
I
think
we
get
about
a
thousand
calls
a
year
now.
Is
that
patricia
probably
we.
F
Have
what
we
have
is
we
have
a
full-time
staff
of
project
sentinel
working
for
our
program,
and
this
is
one
full-time
staff
40
hours
per
week,
working
for
our
program,
and
that
means
answering
the
phones,
giving
people
advice
and
counseling,
but
also
there's
the
whole
petition
process
that
they're
managing
they're,
hiring
and
recruiting
hearing
officers
they
put
part
of
the
whole
petition
process
is
in
the
hands
of
project
sentinel.
F
With
the
pre-hearing
conference
calls,
the
pre-hearing
settlement
conference
is
organizing
getting
the
dates
together
and
there's
a
lot
of
documentation
going
back
and
forth
in
evidence.
Folders,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
they
do,
that
happens
behind
the
scenes
and
that
you
might.
That
is
not
very
obvious
to
the
outside
public.
So.
F
J
And
to
provide
further
clarification
when
you
look
at
the
monthly
status
report
and
you
see
public
inquiries,
that's
the
initial
touch
point
that
is
not
how
many
times
they're
following
up
with
people
or
how
much
time
they're
spending
with
that
person
or
any
of
the
even
the
communication
that
the
helpline
does
between
landlords
and
tenants
after
that
initial
touch
point.
So
that's
only
indicative
of
the
initial
communication
from
the
tenant
or
the
landlord
or
the
property
owner
or
the
other
person
in
the
community
that
calls
the
helpline.
I
Thank
you.
That's
it's
helpful.
I
I
definitely
believe
in
the
value
that
the
helpline
has,
I
mean
I
think
that
is
one
of
our
core
services
for
sure
it
sounds
like
there
isn't
another
kind
of
billing
option
that
they
that
they
offer
it's
pretty
much.
The
full-time
staff.
F
Well,
they
offer
whatever
we
want
them
to
do,
but
we
are
convinced
we
need
at
least
that
one
full-time
staff
person
from
project
sentinel
to
help
us
with
all
the
tasks
that
they
are
being
asked
to
do.
J
And
I
would
like
to
also
mention
that
they
provide
us
bilingual
support
as
well,
so
the
services
that
they're
able
to
provide
are
are
far
deeper
than
what
we
as
staff,
are
able
to
currently
provide
in-house
and
if
anything,
they're
working
far
more
than
40
hours
a
week.
At
this
point
to
support
our
program.
J
Additionally,
if
staff
had
to
also
answer
the
constant
and
continual
phones,
the
phone
calls
that
they
do
receive,
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
the
intense
work
that
we
are
already
doing,
because
we
would
be
having
to
do
that
job
instead.
I
Yeah
again,
I
won't
go
out
line
out
of
my
lineup.
I
I
do.
I
do
believe
in
the
value
of
each
of
these.
It's
more
I'm
interested
in
questions
about
like
if,
if
any
of
them
offer,
if
other
jurisdictions,
you
know
have
alternative
billing
structures
with
how
they
how
they
built.
So
for
that
one
I
mean
it
sounds
like
that's.
That's
pretty
set,
but
yeah.
F
I
And-
and
I
I
agree
with
the-
I
think,
leveraging
third
parties
too,
as
we
get
dialed
into
what's
the
right
level
of
volume
for
inquiries
and
petitions
and
everything,
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
So
I'm
convinced
there,
I
guess.
Maybe
the
last
question
is-
is
for
something
like
litigation.
We
could
be
successful
in
that
litigation
and
then
we
could
collect
fees
for
the
the
parties
that
are
currently
in
litigation
with
us.
I
If
at
what,
I
guess,
would
we
be
comfortable
at
all
paying
having
a
lower
budget
budget
on
some
of
those
items
where
we're
not
sure
how
many
petitions
we're
going
to
get
or
if
we're
going
to
have
new
litigation,
paying
some
of
that
out
of
reserves
and
then
seeing
if
we
kind
of
are
successful
in
litigation
or
if
we
were
more
aggressive
about
collecting
fees
from
landlords
who
have
not
paid
the
fees
for
a
few
years,
which
we
talked
about
last
last
meeting
to
put
that
into
reserves,
I
guess:
is
there
any
if
we
leverage
reserves
more
or
work
on
getting
more
money
into
the
reserves
from
some
of
these
accounts,
receivable
that
we've
had?
F
F
So
I
think-
and
we
are
still
working
andrea-
is
intensifying
the
the
last
blast
out
to
the
landlords
that
have
not
currently
paid
their
fees.
Yet.
F
What
is
currently
expected,
as
actual
incoming
revenue,
is
probably
going
to
be
higher
than
what
we
currently
have
on
our
line
item,
but
that
always
comes
back
to
the
landlord
and
if
we
have
an
ending
balance
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
always
gets
carried
forward
to
the
next
year
and
will
not
be
taken
into
account
when
calculating
the
fee.
So
it
doesn't
matter
what
little
pot
we're
tapping
in
the
end.
The
end
result
is:
how
do
we
calculate
the
fee
using
the
actual
expenses
versus
what
is
budgeted?
B
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
that
we
reduced
our
fee
this
year
and
I
think
it
would
we
like
anki
said
we
initially,
it
was
going
to
be
99
and
we
reduced
it.
Given
it
was
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
and
in
fact
we
provided
exponentially
more
services
this
year
for
a
reduced
amount,
and
I
would
hate
to
see
us.
You
know
clipping
back
on
litigation
and
then
you
know
all
of
a
sudden.
B
F
F
B
Okay,
so
are
there
any
other
questions
from
committee
members?
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
hands
raised
so
then
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
the
hand
button
in
zoom
or
press
nine
on
your
phone
staff
will
display
a
countdown
timer
on
the
screen.
B
I'll
call
on
tim
mckenzie
of
three
minutes.
L
Hi
all
tim
mckenzie,
he
him
probably
pronouns
about
six
year
resident
of
the
montaloma
neighborhood,
and
when
I
heard
one
of
the
committee
members
talking
about
going
back
to
pre-covet
fees,
I
thought
hey.
That
sounds
great.
Maybe
we'll
go
back
to
that
fee
of
155
a
year
with
the
which
the
rhc
started
with
which
works
out
to
less
than
thirteen
dollars
a
month.
L
I
I.e
about
the
cost
of
one
burrito
with
tip
for
per
month
per
housing
unit,
but
instead
the
direction
that
the
committee
member
went
down
was:
how
can
we
reduce
costs?
My
my
rent
has
actually
gone
up
year
over
year
rather
than
gone
down.
So
the
fact
that
the
housing
fees
have
gone
down
is
a
little
bit
perplexing
to
me.
That's
not
generally
how
inflation
works
and
like
costs
again
with
the
basic
burrito
example.
L
Costs
of
burritos
have
gone
up
for
renters
members,
also
given
the
huge
impact
of
the
crisis,
which,
hopefully,
we've
made
our
way
through
the
major
public
health
aspects
of
it.
But
we're
about
to
see
the
eviction
bomb
coming
and
the
whole
point
of
the
rental
housing
committee
is
to
implement
the
community
stabilization
and
fair
rents
act.
I
think
there
will
need
a
lot
of
support
to
stabilize
our
community.
L
I
happen
to
know
some
of
the
other
members
of
the
committee
are
don't
seem
to
don't
act
the
same
way.
This
feels
a
lot
like
a
few
months
ago
when
there
was
the
attempt
to
completely
suspend
the
rhc,
and
by
pursuing
this
line
of
questioning
it's
just
baffling
and
mind-boggling,
I
think
that
the
less
than
ten
dollars
a
month
that,
if
that
is
the
per
unit
that
is
the
proposed
fee,
seems
eminently
reasonable
and
I'm
feel
like
I'm
watching
a
starve.
L
The
beef
beast
the
classic
strategy
of
saying
something:
doesn't
work,
defunding
it
to
the
point
that
it
breaks
and
then
pointing
to
the
fact
that
you
broke
it
as
evidence
that
it
shouldn't
exist.
So
I
am
wholeheartedly
against
the
line
of
questioning
that
was
just
brought
up
by
one
of
the
committee
members
and
I
hope
that
you
follow
through
with
the
hard
work
that
staff
did
to
provide
a
recommendation
that
will
keep
things
running
as
we
work
to
stabilize
our
community,
which
is
what
you
are
charged
with.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
Now
I
want
a
13
burrito,
damn
it
tim,
hey,
yeah.
No,
I
I
we
can't
see
what
disasters
came.
We
can't
see
what
disasters
are
going
to
come
if
we
had
predicted
covet
and
how
much
need
the
community
would
have.
I
feel
like
we
might
want
to.
K
We
might
have
put
more
than
20
in
reserves,
seeing
the
work
that
the
rhc
staff
has
done
over
the
last
year
makes
me
think
that
any
dollar
is
a
dollar
well
spent
when
it
comes
to
the
work
of
this
body
and
their
staff,
it's
fantastic,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
forward
thinking
and
prepare
for
things
going.
That
will
come
in
the
future
as
opposed
to
trying
to
hit
an
arbitrary
target.
K
K
This
is
the
staff
working
with
a
hand
tied
behind
the
back,
because
there's
a
position
that
has
yet
to
be
filled,
and
I
can't
wait
to
see
what
they
do
with
full
staffing,
full
funding
and
I'm
confident
the
rsc
is
going
to
do
the
right
thing
and
continue
to
fund
the
programs
that
help
so
many
people
in
the
city.
B
Sorry
about
that,
thank
you
alex
brown.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised
from
the
public,
so
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
go
into
deliberation.
G
We'll
get
the
hang
of
it
so
I'll
start
with.
Thank
you
for
presenting
us
with
this
budget.
Thank
you,
staff
for
getting
it
all
settled.
I
I
was
surprised
with
the
increase
in
the
fee.
This
is
what
I
was
worried
about
last
year,
y'all,
because
it
is,
it
is
something
that
seems
difficult
for
a
lot
of
people
to
swallow
that
jump
in
increase.
G
I
am
not
willing
to
make
any
cuts,
though
I
we
have
continually
told
staff
that
we
trust
them
to
tell
us
what
they
need.
They
have
told
us
what
they
need
in
terms
of
budget.
G
That
is
generally,
I
believe
them
when
they
say
they
need
this
in
order
to
run
the
program
that
we
have
asked
them
to
run
so
that
I'm
not
willing
to
make
any
cuts
in
that
regard,
particularly
even
especially
on
the
rental
helpline.
I
wish
you
could
add
more
funds
to
that
during
this
pandemic.
When
I
was
chair,
there
were
people
who
reached
out
to
me
from
early
in
the
morning
to
late
at
night
being
like
what
do
I
do
now,
you're
on
this
rental
housing
committee,
I'm
just
like.
G
I
don't
know
what
to
do
to
help
you,
but
in
the
end
I've
always
directed
them
to
the
rental
housing
line,
because
that
is,
that
is
where
they
need
to
go,
but
it
it
is
such
a
necessary
and
an
important
resource
and
and
there's
always
been
one
of
one
of
the
one
of
my
largest
influences
in
my
life
has
had
the
saying
that
budgets
are
statements
of
value
and
out
of
all
the
things
that
I
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
properly
funding
is
how
we
can
make
sure
our
access
of
the
services
that
we
provide
to
the
community
are
out
there
and
available
for
anyone
who
needs
it.
G
G
That's
that's
always
a
great
thing
not
getting
sued
as
much
so
I
I
am
hesitant
on
making
any
kind
of
cuts
when
in
regards
to
services,
what
I
am
willing
to
work
with
is
the
reserves,
but
the
thing
about
reserves
is
that
they
do
need
to
get
filled
to
the
to
a
a
healthy
amount
eventually.
G
So
if
we
are
going
to
do
something
with
the
reserves,
just
keep
in
mind,
they're,
either
paying
it
now
or
in
the
future,
and
how
do
we
want
to
deal
with
that?
So
that
is
where
I
lie.
When
it
comes
to
our
budget,
I
am
more
than
willing
to
pass
the
budget
as
we're
not
passing
the
budget,
we're
just
giving
you
feedback
right,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
keep
the
budget
the
way
it
is
as
it
was
presented,
but
where
I'm
willing
to
wiggle
is
the
reserves.
H
Speaking
to
that
point
of
the
idea
of
where
we
could
wiggle,
I
wholeheartedly
agree,
I
don't
think
we
can
cut
services.
I
I
think
our
services
are
probably
on
the
lower
end
of
adequately
funded,
so
taking
funding
away
from
services
and
even
a
little
drip
or
drab
to
me
seems
like
the
wrong
direction.
H
So
it
might
not
be
a
worthwhile
tweak
in
some
folks
mind
because
I
think
that's
the
calculation
there,
but
it's
something
that
I
think
we
might
want
to
consider
and
if
we
consider
that
you
know
we
could
also
contin
consider
a
petition
fee.
But
I
just
I
worry
with
the
petition
fee
unless
we
charge
off
all
petitions
equally,
there
is
at
minimum
the
appearance
of
unfair
treatment,
treatment
or
unequal
treatment,
and
I
worry
that
there
are
people
who
won't
be
able
to
bring
petitions
that
are
needed
due
to
a
fee.
H
E
B
Karen
is
that
the
case
with
redwood
villa
yes
and
then
there's
another
pending
case
coming
to
us.
No.
H
E
B
Okay,
good,
I
I
don't
know
you
know
I
feel
pretty
uncomfortable
taking
money
from
peter
to
pay
paul.
I
I
I
feel
like
this
could
be
the
year
that
we
get
a
whole
lot
of
petitions
with,
and
we
certainly
have
to
do
a
whole
lot
of
outreach
to
let
people
know
about
the
evictions
legal
services
program.
B
I
I'm
pretty
comfortable
with
109
and
I'm
sorry
that
we
went
to
85
so
that
it
looks
like
a
drastic
increase.
It's
really
just
bringing
it
back
to
what
we
need
to
barely
cover
all
the
services
we
already
provide.
I
don't
know
how
other
people
feel.
B
To
this,
or
do
we
want
to
see
if
anybody
has
a
motion.
I
Sure
first,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
going
down
the
line
of
questioning
for
the
helpline-
probably
not
the
best
lineup
to
dig
into.
I
I
was
interested
in
if
they
have
an
alternative
fee
structure
for
if
we
had
a
per
call
basis
or
fee
that
we're
willing
to
try
paying
them
as
opposed
to
an
hourly
fee.
So
that
was
some
of
the
logic
behind
that.
I
am
also
just
interested
in
year,
one
we
had
155
fee,
we
overestimated
and
I
think,
we've
overestimated.
Every
year
the
number
of
petitions
we
would
receive.
Also
in
the
questions
that
I
asked
all
rent
controlled
jurisdictions.
I
Thus
far,
the
number
of
mli
petitions
decreases
the
further
you
get
from
the
base
year
right.
So
we
should
expect
fewer
petitions
over
time
and
we
budgeted
about
the
same
amount
for
hearing
officers
each
year
and
that's
why
I
was
wondering
if,
if
you
look
at
it
as
like
in
the
initial
years,
my
view
was
that
we
were
doing
a
lot
of
marketing
because
it's
a
new
program,
we
want
to
make
sure
people
know
and
we
always
approve.
I
think
I've
approved
every
line
item
that
is
on
this.
I
That's
come
to
us,
because
staff
makes
good
recommendations.
I
think
now
we're
getting
to
a
point
where
we've
agreed
that
staff
needs
more
help
and
we
have
a
lot
of
programs
in
place
like
we're.
Sending
12
postcards
two
newsletters
and
I
think,
there's
a
legitimate
question
to
ask
of
like
what's
the
right
number
of
postcards.
I
I
don't
know
what
the
right
number
of
postcards
is,
but
I'd
want
to
have
a
legitimate
conversation
about
whether
it's
eight
and
that
saves
us
thirty,
two
thousand
dollars
right
and
if
we
can
get
back
to
a
hundred,
I
think
a
hundred
dollars
would
be
a
symbolic
fee
to
charge.
I
That
means
that
we've
reduced
it
from
the
prior
year
prior
to
the
covet
year,
whereas
101
dollars
so
we're
kind
of
making
progress,
we're
fiscally
responsible
and
we're
still
providing
the
level
of
service
and
we've
added
staff,
and
we
tried
out
some
things
right
this
year,
we're
trying
out
45
000
for
eviction
the
eviction
litigation
program.
That's
a
pilot.
I
think
we
should
be
free
to
pilot
new
things,
but
maybe
we
go
back
and
say:
maybe
we
only
need
eight
postcards
right.
Maybe
12
was
was
too
many.
I
I'm
I'd
look
to
staff
to
look
at
us
like
where
we
could
kind
of
trim
some
of
that.
That's
not
essential
services
right.
The
helpline,
yes,
is
absolutely
so
sorry
that
was
my
feedback
there
is
is
if,
if
we
can
get,
if
we
can
maintain
even
101
right,
which
is
what
we
were
the
last
year
seems
to
me
to
be
a
symbolic
win
for
us
that
we
are
both
providing
a
lot
of
service
and
being
fiscally
responsible
and
not
necessarily
punishing.
I
I
I
Maybe
have
the
reserve
be
zero
this
year
and
I
think
we're
getting
close
then
to
the
hundred
and
sorry
patricia.
I
think
it
was
130
000.
B
But
matt,
I
think
you
know
anki
made
a
good
point
that
we
have
probably
the
leanest
budget
of
any
of
the
bay
area,
rent
stabilization
programs
and
we're
providing
an
immense
amount
of
services,
and
we
haven't
even
seen
what
the
capital
improvement
petition
process
is
going
to
bring
us.
We
may
have
to
hire.
You
know
x,
number
of
hearing
officers.
For
that
I
don't
it
just
makes
me
nervous
to
to
start.
You
know
stripping
the
weight
a
little
bit
here,
a
little
bit
there.
B
The
project
central
program
is
a
you
know
full
comprehensive
program.
It
just
was.
It
happened
that
that
our
staff
laid
it
out
as
a
40
40
hours
a
week.
So
then
it
looks
like
oh
maybe
we
could
do
it
on
30..
It
there's
a
lot,
that's
included
in
project
central.
That
is
not.
You
know,
just
picking
up
the
phone,
it's
research,
it's
it's
hiring!
It's
counseling.
B
I
personally
am
am
comfortable
with
109.
I
think
that
you
know
I
would
rather
see
us
be
more
aggressive
in
getting
our
fees
from
all
of
the
landlords
increase
our
income.
B
I
wouldn't
like
to
see
us
start
charging
for
petitions.
I
think
tenants
will
then
not
not
file.
You
know
I'd
like
everybody
else's
input
on
that,
though,.
I
I
I
agree
with
you,
I
mean
quickly.
I
agree
with
your
point
on
collecting
all
the
fees
from
all
the
landlords,
but
I
mean
that
doesn't
put
anki's
point
on.
I
think
that
affects
our
budget
and
also
yeah.
Sorry
to
your
last
point,
sorry,
I
forgot
that
what
was
the
last
last
thing
you
mentioned.
I
I
think,
oh
sorry,
I
looked
like
there
was
another
hand
raised
there,
but
I'm
I'm
open
to
er
to
your
point,
making
sure
that
all
landlords
you
know
pay
the
fee.
I'm
definitely
supportive
of
that.
Just
wondering
if
I
guess.
What's
your
what's
your,
how
do
you
feel
about
like
the
number
of
postcards,
which
may
have
been
a
somewhat
arbitrary
number
that
we
came
to?
I
I
don't
know
if
we
had,
or
maybe
that
would
be
a
question
for
staff
of
like
would
a
reduction
of
postcards
affect
awareness
of
the
program,
because
I
think
we
were
trying
out
many
things
trying
to
get
the
word
out.
H
F
Yeah,
so
those
postcards
are
meant
to
communicate
any
new
decisions
that
are
made
in
the
rental
housing
committee
in
each
of
their
meetings,
for
instance,
if
you're
going
to
adopt
an
aga
tonight
that
needs
to
be
communicated
to
the
community.
If
there
is
a
new
regulations
adopted
that
needs
to
be
communicated
to
the
community,
so
there
is,
there
are
a
lot
of
instances
where
we
need
to
have
that
postcard,
accessibility
and
the
money
to
spend
that
and
other
than
that.
We
also
want
to
do
outreach
to
announce
workshop
dates
and
topics.
J
B
Thank
you
patricia
committee
member
ramos.
G
Thank
you
chairman,
so,
regarding
one
of
the
questions,
I
actually
don't
agree
with
doing
the
petition
fee.
I
I
don't
think
we're
quite
there
yet.
I
think
that
that
discussion
should
happen.
If
we
see
a
pattern
of
frivolous
petitions,
I
think
that's
the
only
time
where
I'm
willing
to
look
at
that
where
every
single
petition
seems
like
it
has
a
valid
case
to
it.
I
am
not
inclined
to
start
charging
for
it
regarding
outreach,
it's
so
imp
important
to
have
a
lot
of
mailings
coming
from.
G
I
have
printed
out
a
lot
of
these
updates
and
then
tried
to
go
door-to-door
with
them,
and
there
are
some
places
that
are
just
not
accessible.
If
you
go
door-to-door
and
there
are
some
places
where
a
landlord
being
like
what
are
you
doing
there
and
I'll
be
like
bye,
so
it's
really
just
important
for
for
the
mailings,
because
it
is
access
and
equitable
access
to
people
where
we
can't
access
them
in
any
other
way
or
volunteers
can
access
them
in
any
other
way
to
let
them
know
about
these
programs.
G
So
so
that's
my
two
cents.
If
we
could
do
more
mailings,
I
would
be
very
happy
about
that,
but,
as
anki
would
know,
there
have
been
so
many
times
in
this
past
year
being
like.
Can
we
send
a
mailing
on
this?
Please
and
anki
is
like.
I
don't
know
if
I
have
it
in
our
budget,
but
we'll
try.
G
So
I
I
I'm
not
inclined
to
decrease
that
either
but,
like
I
said,
I'm
being
a
dead
horse
at
this
point,
I'm
just
like
I'm
willing
to
touch
the
reserves.
If
we're.
Okay
with
that,
but
like
know
that
there's
danger
there
as
well.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
staff
for
the
hard
work
you
all
did.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
hours,
so
I
just
have
a
question.
So
I
did
a
little
bit
of
math
and
is
it
109
divided
by
12,
which
equals
nine
dollars
per
apartment.
H
No,
I
just
wanted
to
say
with
regards
to
the
mailers,
I
know
it
sounds
silly
at
times
in
2021
to
talk
about
we're
gonna
send
paper
through
the
mail
to
people,
and
it
just
sounds
like
this
thing
that
it's
like
I
get
paper
in
the
mail
why?
H
But
it
really
does
actually
for
some
people
resonate
and
it
when
you
go
to
take
it
away,
it
does
leave
a
sucking
void.
I've
been
in
situations
where
we've
tried
to
move
people
from
paper
to
digital
and
not
everyone's
into
it,
and,
if
not
everyone's
into
it,
when
it's
a
service
that
they're
receiving
that
they
pay
for.
H
You
have
to
imagine
if
it's
something
they
may
not
even
be
aware,
is
in
the
community
and
available
to
them.
They'll
really
need
to
have
that
paper.
They
need
to
have
that
touch.
I
mean
I
do
still
know
of
people
in
our
community
who
have
no
idea
about
rent
stabilization,
and
these
are.
These
are
highly
educated
individuals.
H
H
I
know
that
they
can't
raise
my
rent
more
than
a
certain
amount
year
over
year,
but
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
what
you
really
do
and
I
don't
know
how
you
figure
out
if
they
are,
and
so
if
we
have
people
in
the
community
who
don't
know
what
we
do,
we
need
the
outreach
because
we're
clearly
not
getting
to
everybody
and
we
need
to
get
there.
So
I
I
definitely
I
can't
support
cutting
any
of
our
outreach
stuff
and
with
the
with
the
slim
down
budget.
H
I
I
just
want
to
reiterate
from
my
suggestion:
if
we
were
to
do
it,
I
wasn't
saying:
take
the
reserve
down
to
zero
end
cut
legal.
I
was
actually
saying
take
20k
from
litigation
with
the
31
to
the
reserve
and
then,
if
we
need
it
to
swing
some
of
that
31
back
to
litigation,
we
have
it
available
for
the
swing.
I
wasn't
actually
trying
to
take
51..
E
B
Any
other
comments
committee
member
ramos.
I
Sure
yeah,
I
don't
think
I
have
the
votes
to
really
revise
any
light
items
based
off
of
comments,
but
I
think
I'll.
I
think
I
think
all
of
all
of
this
has
been
good
or
it's
been
easy
decisions
to
this
point
right
we've
been
able
to
bring
down
the
fee
every
year
and
staff
has
come
up
with
recommendations.
We've
been
able
to
accept
those
recommendations
without
much
hard
deliberation,
because
we've
had
the
funds,
and
this
is
the
first
time
that
we
don't
really
have
the
funds.
I
We
have
to
go
back
and
ask
for
more,
and
for
that
I
mean
I
guess
where,
where
what
I,
where
I
would
counter
with
some
of
the
mailers
and
things,
would
it
you
can
rationalize?
Yes,
there
are
some
people
who
would
never
be
reached
by
email,
but
then
there
are
other
jurisdictions
that
have
had
rent
control
for
a
long
time
and
they
may
have
inserts
into
leases
that
they
make
that
a
regulation
right
that
you
have
to
insert
into
a
lease
certain
disclosures
about
local
laws.
I
I
Right
so
so
thank
you
for
reminding
me
of
that.
It's
a
good
idea.
I
think
that
the
question
then
is
like
how
much
incremental
awareness
are
we
driving
by
having
still
mailing
to
every
single
we
mailed
to
sorry
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
this,
we
still
mail
to
every
address
of
a
of
a
rented
unit,
rent
controlled
controlled
unit,
and
so
you
know
of
that,
I
think
early
on.
We
definitely
got
a
lot
of
value
out
of
that.
I
I
think
there's
also
a
case
being
made
that
now
we're
not
probably
getting
getting
the
incremental
value
out
of
each
additional
mailer,
even
though
it
is
new
regs.
Maybe
a
new
reg
summary
could
be
every
three
months
instead
of
having
to
be
every
month
for
the
folks
who
are
aware
that
this
exists,
so
I
think
there
is
a
legitimate
discussion
behind
it
doesn't
sound
like
it
sounds
like
I'm
an
outlier
here,
but
it
will
it.
I
It
will
be
tough
to
swallow
an
increase
after.
If,
if
we
look
at
the
broad,
I
hear
what
everyone's
saying
about
there
may
be
things
coming
down
the
road
this
year
that
we
are
not,
we
don't
know
just
like
this
year.
We
didn't
know,
what's
gonna
happen
this
year,
it's
a
strange
year
for
sure,
but
if
I
look
at
it
at
a
high
level,
our
litigation
is
not
what
it
was
three
years
ago.
I
We
have,
we
have
less
litigation,
we
have
fewer
petitions
and
we're
going
to
have
even
fewer
mri
petitions
as
we
get
further
from
the
base
year.
We
may
have
more
capital
improvements,
but
I
kind
of
think
that's
what
the
reserve
is
for.
So
you
know
to
say
that
now
we're
I
I
understand.
I
think
the
community
appreciates
the
85
reduction
that
we
made
for
covid
and
just
say
we
had
a
zero
reserve
year
and
that
we
go
back
up
to
the
last
fee
that
we
had
prior.
I
That
seems
really
easy
to
explain
and
and
like
we're
in
it
with
the
community.
Raising
it
from
there
seems
seems
like
it'll,
be
tough,
but
I've
said
that
before
so.
Thank
you.
F
I
Sure
yeah
I
mean,
based
on
my
comments,
I
think
I'd
prefer
that
we
try
to
find
a
hundred
and
whatever
would
be,
would
be
required
to
bring
it
down
to
101
dollar
fee.
So
not
supportive
of
the
current
budget.
H
A
H
B
H
You
know,
dollar,
I'm
just
gonna
throw
in
a
bank
account
for
the
future
like
emotionally
that
hurts
me,
I
might
have
the
109,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
super
interested
in
giving
it
to
that
particular
person.
If
I
don't
have
to
so,
I
guess
as
something
to
say
hey.
You
know
we
hear
you.
It
is
a
big
ramp
up
from
85
to
109.,
albeit
it's
still
a
large
ramp
down
from
155..
H
I
I
think
that
talking
about
what
litigation
has
actually
cost
us
year
over
year
and
tweaking
that
number,
since
it
does
make
more
than
a
dollar
difference,
is
at
least
a
place
we
could
tweak
and
and
if
we're
thinking
about
a
budget
as
we
want
to
fund
the
needs,
as
opposed
to,
we
want
to
target
a
number,
I
think
it's
some
place.
We
could
talk
about
a
tweet.
G
I
I
just
don't
know
if
that's
how
do
I
say
this?
The
difference
from
109
to
like
107?
Is
that
even
worthwhile?
I
guess
the
question
that
question
should
go
to
committee
member
grinwall,
because
I
I
know
you're
you're
trying
to
drive
it
down
like
101
would
be
worth
a
while
to
drive
down
but
like
I'm
not
willing
to
do
the
cuts
necessary
for
the
101.
So
like
it's
a
weird
kind
of
compromise,
is
this
like
worthwhile
for
that?
Or
is
it
not
and
that's
that's
where
I'm
at?
G
I
bet
she
vice
chair,
haynes
lip
says
taking
it
from
like
the
reserves
and
hopefully
using
the
reserves
to
backfill
if
we
need
the
litigation.
So
in
my
mind,
that's
from
the
reserves
and
and
that's
within
my
okay
cycle
in
my
head.
But
it's
it's
it's
like
two
bucks
difference,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
is
a
worthwhile
drive
down
for
four
people,
and
I
guess
that
is
a
question
that
I'm
asking
you
as
opposed
to
like
going
from
109
to
107,
as
opposed
to
109
to
101.
I
I
think
I
think
in
general,
I'm
trying,
on
each
line
item
submit
to
pressure
test
our
original
hypothesis
to
revisit
our
original
hypothesis
for
each
one
right.
So
we've
talked
about
the
help
line,
I'm
I'm
so
I
mean
the
helpline.
Maybe
the
helpline
needs
to
go
up
actually
right,
but
then
again
the
more
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
survey
research
about
awareness
of
rent
control
among
our
renters
or
among
landlords
of
now
versus
what
it
was
years
ago.
I
So,
sorry
to
answer
your
question,
I'd
like
us
to
to
get
closer
to
calibrating,
what's
necessary
for
each
line
item
and
I
think
for
for
litigation
in
general.
I
think
karen,
we
we
wouldn't
take
it
to
a
trial
unless
we
believed
that
we
were
in
the
right
and
that
we
could
win
and
if
we
win,
we
are
going
to
get
collect
from
that
party,
their
fees
that
they
have
not
been
paying
for
for
years
right.
So
we
wouldn't
want
to
just
have
a
litigation
budget
just
to
litigate
right.
I
E
I
I
see
yes
but
sorry
the
larger
point-
I
I
don't
know
the
specifics,
and
I
have
that
kept
up
with
the
specifics
of
that
of
that
case.
More
so,
to
say
that
I
wouldn't
I
want
us
to
have
enough
to
be
able
to
pursue
the
litigation
that
we
need
to
pursue,
but
not
have
too
much
of
an
overage
that
that
it's,
the
extra
is
unnecessary.
So
for
that
one
yeah
I
mean
let's.
I
So
if
we
do
think
that
one
will
go
to
trial,
then
maybe
we
only
take
a
small
amount
as
nicole
has
proposed,
but
even
that
even
that
small
amount
us
getting
closer
to
what
the
reality
is
that
that
seems
good.
To
me
I
mean
I'm
not
trying
I'm
not.
I
I
think
the
100
number
would
be
a
symbolic
win
for
us
or
101
that
we're
maintaining,
but
outside
of
that,
then
I'm
just
looking
for
each
line
item
to
be
deserved
and
and
efficient
in
what
we're
doing
and
not
that
we
always
want
to
have
some
buffer,
but
not
too
much
buffer.
Long
story
short.
Yes,
I'd
be
supportive
of
it,
but
I'm
not
looking
to
push
it
down
artificially.
B
F
So
any
any
amount
of
this
year's
budget
that
we
have
not
spent
ends
up
in
the
end
balance
that
end
balance
becomes
the
beginning
balance
of
the
next
fiscal
year
and
we
and
that
part
that
comes
from
this
fiscal
year
is
not
even
used
to
calculate
the
fee,
because
that
was
fees
from
previous
years.
F
For
instance,
if
we
have
just
random
numbers,
we
have
500
000
left
from
this
year
because
we
didn't
spend
all
the
money
that
was
budgeted
for,
and
so
we
have
500
thousand
dollars
that
we
can
use
for
next
year.
So
if
the
total
cost
would
be,
the
total
budget
would
be
2
million,
but
we
already
have
500
000
in
our
savings
account.
F
B
Okay,
so
by
the
straw
poll,
we
have
four
in
favor
of
maintaining
the
budget
that
you
proposed
and
then
three
people
would
sort
of
like
that.
If
we
could
somehow
tweak
out
a
few
more
dollars,
so
the
fee
is
reduced,
I'm
not
sure
that
staff
do
you
feel
like
you,
have
enough
direction,
or
do
you
want
more.
F
F
Do
a
straw
poll
off
to
see
if
you
have
a
majority
of
what
that
slide
reduction
would
look
like
and
if
that
even
carries
through
the
rental
housing
committee.
B
H
So
my
idea
for
the
straw
poll
would
be
to
modify
the
budget
by
reducing
the
litigation
line
item
by
20
000
so
that
we
have
eighty
thousand
budgeted
there
and
then
to
see.
If
anyone
else
supports
that
idea,.
G
G
F
B
D
F
So,
for
me
that
means
I'm
gonna
come
back
with
a
with
a
budget
in
the
next
meeting.
Lowering
the
litigation
line
item
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
at
at
that
point
you
can
either
adopt
or
reject
the
budget.
Still,
I
hope,
you're
going
to
adopt
it
because
otherwise,
we're
running
out
of
time
before
the
fiscal
year
ends.
B
I
Sarah,
I
I'm
just
wondering:
if
is
there,
is
there
any
interest
in
us
having
another
zero
reserve
year?
If
anyone
is
interested
in
that
we
don't
use,
rubble
looks
like
I've
got
a
couple
head
shaking
stuff.
Okay,
I
will
retract
I'll
retract
that,
as
a.
I
I
think
we
still
do
have
380
000
or
so
so
I
mean
it
would
just
be
the
31.
But
right,
that's
fair!
That's
right!.
J
The
purpose
of
staff's
presentation
this
evening
is
to
establish
the
allowed
percentage
of
the
csfra
annual
general
adjustment
event
for
2021
and
to
give
a
little
background
information
here,
csfra
section
1707,
so
this
is
actually
part
of
the
charter
states
that
no
later
than
june
30th
of
each
year,
the
rental
housing
committee
shall
announce
the
amount
of
the
annual
general
adjustment
of
rent,
which
shall
be
effective
as
of
september
of
that
year
and
give
a
little
bit
more
background
information.
J
The
annual
general
adjustment
of
rent
is
the
percentage
by
which
the
rent
for
fully
covered
units
may
be
increased
each
year.
There
is
only
one
increase
allowed
per
12
month
period
and
the
increase
must
be
between
two
and
five
percent.
So
two
percent
is
the
floor,
and
five
percent
is
the
ceiling.
Should
the
consumer
price
index
differential
be
above
or
below
that
it
is
not
allowed,
as
mandated
by
the
requirements
under
the
csfra?
J
Additionally,
the
law
states
that
it
must
be
the
100.
It
must
be.
100
of
the
cpiu
all
items
for
a
12
month
period
ending
in
march,
the
index
that
is
used
to
calculate
this
actually
only
publishes
the
cpi
every
two
months,
either
in
february
or
in
april,
and
the
rental
housing
committee
at
a
previous
meeting
has
chosen
to
adopt
the
yearly
overlook
from
february
to
february.
J
B
K
Hey
the
fact
that
there's
a
floor
at
all
makes
me
sad,
and
I
wonder
how
much
money
is
going
to
how
much
money
in
excess
of
the
actual
cpi
people
are
going
to
be
charged
because
of
the
existence
of
the
floor
in
csfra.
L
I'd
also
like
to
say
that
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
a
floor,
and
you
know
again
this
this
year
is
a
perfect
example
that
it's
been
very
hard
for
the
most
vulnerable
of
us
and
rhc
will
need
to
do
a
lot
of
work
to
help
stabilize
the
community.
B
G
I'm
just
willing
to
make
the
motion.
I
move
that
we
adopt
a
resolution
adopting
the
aga
of
two
percent.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
reading
that
right,
I'm
trying
to
find
it
in
the
I
think,
that's
probably
a
decent
way
of
just
saying
it
right,
good,
we're
good!
Okay,
I
move
that
we
adopt
the
resolution
adopting
the
new
aga
of
two
percent.
A
You
we
will
begin
with
committee
member
grumman.
A
J
And
item
9.3
is
staff
presentation
regarding
the
consumer
price
indices
for
mnoi
petitions
so
bear
with
me.
It
gets
a
little
consumer
price
index
heavy
this
evening.
We're
going
to
talk
about
two
indexes.
We
just
talked
about
one
of
them
that
one
does
not
have
that
conversation
about
the
aga
does
not
play
into
this
conversation
about
the
mnoy
petition
adjustment
cpi,
except
that
you
could
have
them
be
the
same
index.
So
just
keep
that
kind
of
global
idea
in
mind
as
we
go
through
the
presentation.
J
One
is
what
we
just
discussed:
the
general
annual
and
general
annual
the
annual
general
adjustment
of
rent
of
100
of
the
cpiu
for
the
bay
area
region.
Number
two
is
vacancy
d
control.
This
is
the
way
that
most
of
the
insuring
affair
rate
of
return
on
investment
is
achieved
in
rent
stabilized
units.
So
basically,
this
means
that
when
a
person
moves
out
of
a
unit,
that's
rent
controlled.
J
The
next
person
that
moves
into
the
unit
can
have
that
rent
sent
by
the
landlord
at
whatever
amount
that
the
landlord
wants
and
third
is
the
individual
petitions
for
upward
adjustment
of
rent,
which
we
discussed
a
little
bit
around
the
budget
and
we're
going
to
discuss
a
little
bit
more
now
we're
only
looking
at
mnoy
petitions.
So
that's
the
maintenance
of
net
operating
income
petition,
not
at
capital
improvement
petitions
as
they
are
not
affected
by
or
subject
to
a
cpi
index.
J
So
the
rental
housing
committee
has
authority
to
determine
regulations
related
to
the
petition
process,
section
1708,
1710
and
1711
of
the
csfra
charge,
the
rhc
with
premier
league
regulations
that
established
rules
and
regulations
for
the
administration
and
enforcement
of
the
csfra.
That
implement
the
petition
process
and
that
provide
landlords
with
a
mechanism
for
achieving
a
fair
rate
of
return
that
addresses
individualized
circumstances
and
in
this
case
it's
the
petition
process
and
the
mnoi
process
that
we're
looking
at
specifically
previously
the
city.
J
J
And
how
they
work,
so
basically,
what
we're
saying
here
is
we're
looking
at
three
different
indices
tonight,
the
all
items,
all
urban
consumers,
the
cpi
housing
and
the
cpi
rent
of
primary
residents
and
the
all
items
is
a
basket
of
goods
like
you
can
see.
Here,
though,
this
is
actually
quite
extensive
and
quite
long.
This
is
a
snapshot
of
a
portion
of
the
all
items
basket.
J
And
because
of
this,
they
reflect
the
change
in
price
of
fewer
goods
in
the
basket.
So,
instead
of
having
that
big,
extensive
list
of
goods
there's
only
a
few
and
in
this
case,
housing
is
looking
at
shelter,
the
rent
of
primary
residence.
So
how
much
it
costs
to
rent
a
unit
in
a
specific
location,
and
it
also
looks
at
home
ownership
equivalency
of
rent
of
residence,
which
is
very
complicated.
J
These
baskets
of
goods
that
are
smaller
that
only
contain
a
few
items
are
much
more
volatile
than
the
cpi.
All
items,
which
is
another
reason
why
the
cpi
all
items
was
originally
recommended
by
staff,
because
it
is
a
less
volatile
index
and
the
rent
of
primary
residence
is
a
more
volatile
index
than
the
housing
index
for
the
same
reason,
so
that
housing
index
takes
a
look
at
shelter,
primary
residence
and
other
pieces,
and
then
the
rent
of
primary
residence
is
only
looking
at
rent.
J
So
the
changes
in
that
index
are
much
more
susceptible
to
market
swings,
including
steeper
increases
in
cpi
and
steeper
decreases,
and
so,
when
we're
looking
at
again
to
provide
an
overview
when
we're
looking
at
cpi
the
consumer
price
index,
it's
a
change
in
the
cost
of
goods
and
services
over
time,
that's
the
whole
basket
when
we're
looking
at
rent
of
primary
residence.
All
we're
looking
at
is
the
changes
in
the
cost
of
rent
over
time
and
again
with
housing,
we're
looking
at
the
changes
in
the
cost
of
the
entire
basket
of
housing.
J
Only,
but
that's
the
part
of
the
bigger
all
items
basket
that
we
do
recommend
it
for
the
mnoi
petitions,
and
so
just
to
give
you
an
example
of
how
this
plays
out
to
illustrate
the
volatility
of
the
indexes.
J
The
green
line
here
is
the
change
in
the
consumer
price
index
over
time
from
2001
to
2020
by
year.
So
you
can
see
this.
All
items
is
much
more
stable
than
the
housing
index,
which
is
the
blue
line
and
far
more
stable
than
the
red
line,
which
is
the
one
we
currently
use
for.
Mnoi
petition
adjustments
and
it's
quite
up
and
down
right
now.
J
So
how
do
we
calculate
net
operating
income?
And
what
does
this
mean?
Maintenance
of
net
operating
income?
Petitions
are
based
on
a
calculation
that
determines
whether
the
annual
general
adjustment
of
rent
maintains
the
property's
net
operating
income
from
the
base
year
to
the
petition
year.
And
if
that
calculation
results
in
a
negative
number,
then
the
property
and
the
unit
might
be
subject
to
an
increase
greater
than
the
annual
general
adjustment
of.
J
J
So
when
we
get
a
petition,
what
happens
is
the
base?
Year's
operating
income
is
adjusted
for
inflation,
using
the
correct
percentage
in
for
the
time
period
covered
by
the
petition
year.
So
if
you
filed
your
petition
in
april
of
2021
and
your
petition
year
was-
let's
say,
let's
say
it
was
the
calendar
year
for
2020,
then
right
now,
your
base
year
operating
income
would
be
adjusted
up
by
26
percent
based
on
this
index.
J
If
the
rental
housing
committee
chose
the
housing
index,
it
would
have
been
23
percent,
and
if
the
when
a
housing
committee
had
chosen
the
all
items
basket,
it
would
be
17
typically
trend
wise.
We
see
about
a
10
difference
between
the
all
items
basket
and
the
rent
of
primary
residence
basket
because
of
the
fluctuations
in
the
housing
market
and
especially
rent
right
now
it
and
because
of
the
fluctuations
in
energy
costs
and
the
cost
of
transportation
and
the
purchasing
of
large
items
like
cars.
J
The
all
items
basket
has
gone
up
in
the
past
few
months,
making
the
index
a
little
bit
more
closely
matched
to
each
other
than
they
typically
trend
year
over
year,
but
we
do
anticipate
that
that
will
stabilize
and
that
the
rent
of
primary
residents
will
trend
upward
soon.
J
So
what
does
this
mean
for
the
petitions
that
we've
actually
received
so
right?
Now
we
use
the
we're
looking
at
the
all
items,
all
urban
consumers
index,
and
these
are
the
petitions
that
were
filed
over
the
past
few
years.
You
can
see
their
petition
near
here
and
the
mnoi
petition
increased
that
the
cpi
increase
of
the
based
on
what
the
all
items
index
would
have
been,
and
that
would
have
led
to
this
amount
over
here
per
unit.
J
And
we're
going
to
look
at
this
on
a
chart
that
shows
everything
together
too
for
the
housing
index.
You
can
see
the
difference
here.
It's
gone
up
because
the
percentage
is
higher
for
what
the
cpi
would
allow
for
that
base,
year,
adjustment
and
then
for
the
rent
of
primary
residence,
it's
higher
again,
leading
to
a
higher
increase
in
rent
allowed
under
the
petition
process.
J
So
what
does
that
mean
if
we're
looking
at
the
indices
that
we,
the
index,
that
we
use
versus
the
other
index
so
for
the
difference
between
what
a
landlord
would
have
been
able
to
receive
from
their
petition
and
what
a
tenant's
rent
would
have
been
increased
by?
You
can
see
that
difference
here.
J
This
petition
was
not
did
not
qualify
for
an
increase
under
any
of
the
indexes
they
had
a
profit.
It
was
167
difference
between
the
two
indexes
for
this
petition.
Here
and
again,
you
can
see
it's
quite
a
substantial
difference
between
the
the
different,
the
different
petitions
and
the
different
indexes,
and
then
this
is
what
the
difference
is
when
you
look
at
using
the
housing
versus
rent
index.
So
we
are
looking
here.
J
B
G
You're
all
learning
do
we
have
any
competitions
that
are
using
the
the
current
cpi
as
it
is
and
what
happens
if
we
change.
J
It
that's
a
great
question.
We
have
a
petition,
that's
currently
on
hold
that
was
filed
quite
a
while
ago,
pre-pandemic
and
that
that
petition
is
strictly
on
hold
at
this
time.
So
we
would
have
to
take
into
consideration
what
the
petitioner
would
want
to
do
at
this
point,
because
at
this
point
it's
quite
outdated
because
it
has
been
on
hold
for
so
long.
I
Sure,
maybe
my
question
is
for
karen
karen:
is
there
any
kind
of
legal
exposure
or
downside
to
changing
something
where
decisions
have
been
made
on
prior.
E
I
Okay
would,
with
the
new
information,
would
anyone
I
guess
in
this
case
it's
it
would
potentially
be
reduced,
so
landlords
wouldn't
be
incentivized
to
resubmit
their
petitions,
but
I
guess
then,
could
tenants
submit
a
submit
or
reopen
a
petition
on
based
on
that
information.
E
No,
the
petitions
are
final
after
the
appeal
period
is
run.
If
they're
not
appealed
they're
final,
they
can't
reopen
it
on
that
basis.
B
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
hands
raised.
I
guess
that
means
we
go
to
the
public.
B
C
You
so
I
strongly
support
changing
to
the
mnois
to
use
the
all
items
cpi.
C
The
reason
for
rent
stabilization
is
because
the
community
chooses
to
limit
rents,
not
all
bay
area
rents
are
controlled
using
a
broad
housing
index,
as
we
can
see,
has
been
always
higher
and
is
biased
to
be
always
higher
as
it
with
an
impact
to
the
negative
impact
to
tenants.
It
will
rise
faster
than
cpi.
C
C
With
this
recent
move
to
the
benefit
of
landlords,
the
current
playing
field
is
generous
to
landlords
using
any
cpi
other
than
the
same.
One
for
aga,
I
feel,
is
making
the
playing
field
biased
against
tenants,
and
I
think
it's
a
good
time
and
a
right
time
to
correct
this
and
use
the
all
index
aga
for
any
mnoi
petitions.
Thank
you.
K
I
mean
this
sounds
good
to
me.
Harmonize
those
indices
like
it
going
from
both
the
graphs
and
the
tables
and
injustice
has
been
done
and
it's
time
to
fix
it
and
just
bring
it
back
to
yes,
like
edie,
said
the
the
reason
we
have
the
csfra,
which
is
to
keep
rent
raises
in
line
with
you,
know,
the
actual
cost
of
living
increases
and,
theoretically,
the
cost,
the
increase
in
wages
and
workers,
although,
as
you
said,
a
lot
of
people,
don't
even
get
that.
K
B
Thank
you,
alex
brown
and
and
edie
keating,
any
other
attendees
wishing
to
speak.
D
I
will
but
I
will
motion
to
adopt
san
francisco,
glenn
hayward
cpiu,
all
items
for
use
in
both
aga
and
fair
return
standard
context.
B
That
was
much
easier
than
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be.
I
had
all
kinds
of
things
to
say,
but
I'm
delighted
I
think
this
is
a
long
time
coming
and
I
think
it
will
bring
more
stability
to
renters.
It
it'll
also
mean
that
landlords
know
what
they
can
depend
on
from
year
to
year.
It
will
match
our
aga.
I
think
it'll
streamline
the
process
in
some
ways,
I'm
absolutely
thrilled.
I
know
members
of
the
community
have
been
hoping
for
this
for
four.
J
I
will
keep
it
brief
tonight
on
the
monthly
status
report
just
to
share
a
few
highlights:
we've
given
25
workshops
with
181
attendees.
This
does
not
include
our
eviction,
moratorium
or
rent
relief
workshops,
we've
had
a
35
office
hours,
and
this
is
actually
two
hours
during
these
time
periods
of
39
attendees
and
we've
done
eight
mailings.
This
is
not
only
postcards
but
also
includes
newsletters
and
communications
with
property
owners.
Specifically,
we've
also
sent
out
29
email
updates.
J
I
would
like
to
highlight
that
we
have
102
mediations
and
conciliations
through
the
mountain
view,
mediation
program
and
90
of
those
have
been
resolved,
which
is
fantastic.
This
reduces
this
is
another
reason
why
our
petition
expenditures
are
lower
than
other
jurisdictions
and
why
we
receive
fewer
petitions,
because
our
mediation
program
through
the
city
helps
us
address
those
situations
that
would
routinely
and
regularly
end
up
in
petitions.
J
So
do
you
want
to
highlight
that
work,
and
we
have
you'll
see
here,
646
termination
notices
received
with
a
bump
up
of
37
that
were
highlighted
as
withdrawn
from
market.
Those
are
actually
related
to
a
project
that
started
all
the
way
back
in
2019
and
the
termination
notices
were
just
served.
So
that
does
not
have
a
reflection
on
any
thing
that
we've
have
going
into
redevelopment
currently,
so
we
still
have
zero
properties
going
into
redevelopment
for
calendar
year.
J
J
We
had
a
whole
bunch
of
petitions
be
decided
after
the
after
the
appeal
process
was
completed
for
the
appeal
that
you
heard
and
we
had
one
petition
go
into
appeal,
which
you
will
be
hearing
at
a
rental
housing
committee
meeting
in
the
future,
and
I
also
want
to
take
a
look
here
just
to
highlight
very
quickly
that
the
market
appears
to
be
rebounding,
rent
rate,
rent
rate
wise
for
her
average
market
rent
for
all
types
of
units
in
the
city,
and
this
includes
csfra
covered
units.
J
You
can
see
we
hit
a
floor
back
about
three
quarters
ago
and
it
has
popped
back
up
and
the
vacancy
rate
for
all
units
is
stabilizing
as
well,
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
andrea.
Unless
there's
questions
on
the
monthly
status
report.
H
So
I'm
just
curious.
I
know
the
city
is
doing
a
newsletter.
Now
it
used
to
be
like
a
covet
briefing,
but
now
it's
evolved
to
a
different
name
and
I'm
I
get
it,
but
I
totally
forget
the
name
of
it
now.
Have
we
either
and
maybe
we
aren't
allowed
to
do
the
data
privacy,
but
have
we
either
thought
about
doing
some
friendly
information
sharing
with
that
list
and
or
putting
some
stuff
about
us
in
that
newsletter
from
time
to
time?.
J
A
A
So
we'll
start
with
the
schedule.
So
we
have
some
eviction
moratorium
webinars
coming
up
two,
we
break
them
out
again.
A
As
always
a
landlord
and
tenant
focused
all
of
our
tenant-focused
webinars
are
bilingual,
so
we
have
coming
up
some
coming
up
at
the
end
of
this
month,
may
25th
at
three
for
landlords
and
may
26
at
6
30
for
10th
and
again
we
have
an
one
in
june
29th
for
our
landlords
and
we
will
be
scheduling
more
as
we
need
them
and
as
we
sort
of
coordinate
with
our
our
translations
team
and
put
in
more
dates.
But
this
is
what
we
have
so
far.
A
G
Uh-Huh,
sorry,
have
you
so
we're
getting
there's
state
rent
relief
now,
and
that
is
what
you're
doing
with
the
webinars
to
to
go
over
how
they
can
get
that?
Do
you
have
any
sense
of
how
that
is
going
like?
Is
it
hard?
Is
it
easy
like
how
are
people
navigating
through
that
so
far,.
A
A
It
is
a
heavy
lift
for
tenants,
but
we
are
providing
as
much
support
as
we
can
for
the
application
process
and
projects
that
know
who,
of
course,
is
our
helpline
we're
lucky
enough
that
they
are
actually
a
partner
with
the
state
for
the
rent
relief
program,
so
they
they
are
in
a
lot
of
behind
the
scenes
meetings.
They
know
all
the
ins
and
outs
of
the
program
so
they're
able
to
really
help
people
walk
them
through
step
by
step
and
give
them
as
much
support
as
they
need.
A
And
so
that
brings
us
to
this
slide,
which
is
the
state
rent
relief
program.
So
both
tenants
and
landlords
are
able
to
apply
for
this
money
and
the
tenants
do
have
to
qualify
by
being
affected
by
coven,
19,
financially
impacted,
and
they
must
make
80
or
less
of
the
area.
Median
income
and
those
who
are
making
50
or
less
are
going
to
be
prioritized.
A
We
do
still
have
funds
available
for
the
city
of
mountain
views
relief
program,
that's
run
through
the
community
services
agency,
the
city
just
added
additional
funds
to
that
pot
of
money.
So
we
are
encouraging
people
to
apply
regardless,
if
it's
their
first
time
or
their
fourth
time,
we're
encouraging
them
to
apply
for
these
funds.
The
income
threshold
for
this
was
bumped
up
to
80
recently.
A
So
now
it's
in
line
with
the
state's
rent
relief
program,
which
is
nice
because
now,
if
a
tenant
is
qualifying
for
the
state,
they
also
know
that
they're
qualifying
here
for
the
city's
program
and
the
best
way
to
reach
out
to
them
is
through
email
at
renthelp
csacares.org,
and
we
are
also
encouraging
everybody
to
reach
out
to
them
again
for
a
status
update
of
their
application.
If
they
haven't
heard
anything
in
a
little
while.
J
And
I
also
want
to
mention
here
that
we've
reassessed
the
application
process
and
the
rent
stabilization
staff
has
redesigned
the
applications
and
how
that
process
works.
So
they
closely
match
and
track
with
the
states
process,
which
makes
it
much
easier
for
applicants
again.
Like
andrea
said.
Not
only
did
we
take
into
consideration
the
income
thresholds
for
the
state
program,
but
also,
what's
required,
of
the
state
program,
is
now
very
similar
to
what's
required
of
the
pro
the
application
for
csa,
so
people
aren't
doing
double
work
and
they're
now
fillable
forms.
J
If
people
have
access
to
computers,
they
can
do
that
directly
on
their
computer,
and
we
have
a
follow-up
checklist
for
people
to
be
working
on,
while
they're
waiting
for
csa
to
contact
them.
So
the
process
is
different
than
it
has
been
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
assist
more
people
going
forward.
J
And
there's
also
a
major
update
from
the
county,
as
the
county's
homelessness
prevention
system
is
also
starting
to
implement
a
huge
rent
relief
program
through
that
for
county
residents,
which
include
mountain
view,
residents
who
are
30
or
below
the
area
median
income
that
is
going
into
effect.
It
either
went
into
effect
this
week
or
last
week.
J
So
there's
there's
a
lot
here,
but
people
all
people
need
to
do
is
contact
us
to
get
directed
to
who
they
should
be
taught.
A
Right
yeah,
so
I
I
think
it
went
into
effect
last
week.
We
had
it
up
when
we
did
our
event,
but
they
had
a
little
some
hiccups
to
it
still.
So,
hopefully
that
gets
all
smoothed
out
and
and
again
just
contact
the
helpline,
because
they
know
all
the
ins
and
outs
of
all
of
the
programs
that
people
can
apply
for
assistance.
A
And
also
there's
a
mortgage
relief,
that's
available
through
sb91
for
small
landlords
and
those
are
owners
of
four
or
fewer
properties,
with
each
property
having
no
more
than
four
rental
units
and
also
through
project
sentinel.
There
is
hud
certified
mortgage
counseling
again.
A
And
the
city
also
is
still
having
the
utility
relief
program,
which
offers
that
one-time
credit
that
you
can
apply
towards
a
utility
payment
and
that
would
be
water,
sewer,
garbage
or
recycling.
They
will
qualify.
You
by
income
and
services
are
not
going
to
be
shut
off
during
the
pandemic,
for
any
non-payment
and
penalties
and
interest
will
be
way
late
fees
there.
A
So
if-
and
this
is
for
anybody
in
the
city-
not
just
csfra
units
or
landlords-
and
that
can
be
taken
advantage
of
through
our
email
at
revenue
staff
at
mountainview.gov
and
that's
directly
linking
you
to
our
finance
department
for
those
programs.
C
A
A
We
held
it
right
outside
of
the
senior
center
in
the
front.
We
had
plenty
of
parking
and
you
know
good
visibility
there
for
people
we
partnered
up
with
the
county,
who
had
helped
a
program
for
vaccine
signups
in
the
past.
A
So
we
sort
of
pulled
all
of
our
resources
together
to
have
a
joint
rent,
relief
and
vaccine
sign
up
outreach
from
four
to
seven
o'clock
in
the
in
the
evening
last
thursday,
and
we
we
gathered
a
bunch
of
our
community
organization,
so
it
was
ourselves
the
city
project,
sentinel.
Of
course
there
who
are
experts.
A
We
had
csa
there
and
a
couple
staff
members
from
csa
who
had
access
to
their
database
and
the
information
and
were
able
to
look
people
up
right
on
site
and
give
them
status
updates
for
their
application,
which
thankfully
most
people
had
at
least
applied
for
one
month.
There
was
only
one
person
who
came,
who
didn't
hear
but
hasn't
heard
about
it
at
all,
but
everybody
else
had,
which
is
great.
A
We
also
had
some
volunteers
from
our
spanish,
our
spanish
leadership
academy
here
at
the
city,
which
was
amazing
because
I'm
going
to
say
90
of
everybody
who
came
was
predominantly
spanish
speaking,
so
it
was
great
to
have
our
volunteers
out
there
and
we
also
had
the
community
action
team
cat
working
with
the
county
for
the
vaccine
signups
and
they
were
giving
away
some
free
goodies
like
hand,
sanitizer
masks
and
wipes
to
the
community.
A
So
that
was
great
when
somebody
got
a
person
at
their
table,
we
just
bounced
them
over
to
the
other
group,
so
we
were
able
to
serve
everybody
that
showed
up
for
us.
We
had
paper
forms
available
for
people
to
sign
out
for
the
rent
relief.
We
also
had
laptops
and
computers
for
the
state
program
and
we
were
actually
able
to
help
quite
a
few
families
work
their
way,
mostly
all
the
way
through
the
state
rent
relief
program.
A
A
We're
we're,
definitely
excited
and
everybody
was
enthused
to
to
schedule.
Another
in-person
outreach
event
and
we
even
had
other
community
members
asking
how
they
can
join
up
with
us
and
be
trained
to
volunteer
in
the
next
event.
J
H
Okay,
mine
should
be
easy,
I'm
just
curious.
Is
there
any
data
sharing
allowed
permitted,
not
breaking
privacy
regulations
where?
Basically,
if
I
like,
let's
say
I
find
the
city's
rent
relief
can
by
putting
in
my
application
to
that.
I
get
information
fed
to
me
about
some
of
the
other
programs,
like
the
utility
relief
and
the
state
program
or
the
state
program
get
fed
from
the
city,
or
is
that
all
against
privacy
laws
in
california.
A
I
I'm
not
positive
on
the
answer
to
that.
I
know
csa
at
this
point
one.
They
have
a
lot
of
resources
outside
of
just
a
city
mountain
views
fund
that
they're
already
connecting
people
to
once
they
get
them
in
as
a
client,
so
just
as
part
of
the
case
management
for
each
tenant
that
comes
in
they're
going
to
let
them
know
what
other
relief
is
available
to
them
and
now
included
in.
That
would,
of
course,
be
the
state's
relief.
J
The
state
will
be
referring
people
for
that
30
ami
county
program,
but
not
for
our
city
of
mountain
view
program
specifically,
and
what
was
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
there.
The
the
rent
relief
provided
through
the
state
is
pretty
comprehensive
and
covers.
We.
We
hear
right
now
that
it
will
likely
be
bumped
up
right
now.
It
covers
80
percent
of
all
past
due
rent
and,
with
the
caveat
that
property
owners
have
to
you,
know
again.
J
Rent,
however,
the
state
is
currently
signaling
that
they
will
likely
cover
100
of
all
past
due
rent
for
people
who
qualify
and
apply
for
that
program.
So
as
andrea
mentioned,
landlords
can
apply
and
then
tenants
can
follow
up
and
tenants
can
apply
and
then
landlords
follow
up
and,
and
so
it
should
be
pretty
comprehensive
for
for
a
majority
of
renters
across
the
state.
I
Matt
sure
thanks,
I
like
seeing
the
collaboration
in
the
live
first
glad
we
would
start
to
have
live
events.
So
that's
that's
a
win.
I
like
to
see
the
collaboration
with
the
city,
and
I
also
noticed
you
know
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
phone
numbers.
There's
a
lot
of
programs.
There's
state
programs,
county
programs,
it's
all
very
complicated.
I
think
you
mentioned.
I
I
That
all
leads
to
my
question
of
instead
of
having
a
lot
of
those
phone
numbers.
I
Is
there
an
opportunity,
but
does?
Does
the
city
already
have
a
contractor
project
sentinel
but
they're,
paying
them
separately,
or
is
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
have
a
housing
hotline
that
would
essentially
like
the
city
could
also
pay
into?
And
this
comes
back
to
our
budget
conversation
of?
Could
we
potentially
save
by
collaborating
with
the
city
to
have
sent
funnel
everyone
to
a
housing
hotline?
That's
that's
made
by
project
sentinel.
A
A
So
we
put
out
you
know
this
is
the
mountain
view,
rental
housing
helpline?
They
will
be
able
to
assist
you
and
if
they
cannot,
they
can
connect
you
directly
to
who
is
able
to
assist
you
in
those
things,
but
I
know
patricia
has
a
little
bit
more
information
with
their
contract
as
as
far
as
maybe
the
budgeting
and
everything
goes.
Maybe
you
can
ask
answer
those
questions.
F
Actually,
what
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
currently,
the
csfra
contracts
with
project
sentinel
for
the
csfra
services
and
the
city
has
a
separate
contract
with
project
sentinel
for
other
housing
services.
So
that
already
is
that
there
are
already
two
separate
contracts.
Actually,
three
separate
contracts
going
for
project
sentinel.
J
And
specifically,
for
the
rental
housing
helpline
services,
which
is
basically
our
case
managers
right
for
for
this
program,
the
the
bulk
of
the
people
who
are
applying
for
rent
relief
are
people
who
are
covered
by
and
properties
that
are
covered
by
our
program,
so
the
property
owners
can
call
when
they
need
assistance
just
like.
If
you
you
know,
when
we
go
back
to
look
at
the
monthly
status
report.
You
see
all
these
inquiry
topics
here,
including
covid18,
related
topics.
J
People
call
the
helpline
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
including
being
unable
to
pay
the
rent,
and
this
is
true,
pre-pandemic
and
you
know,
during
pandemic
eviction,
protections
which
is
also
part
of
the
eviction
moratorium.
We're
counting
that,
as
as
a
part
of
the
piece
of
that,
the
services
that
we're
already
providing
are
still
wrapped
up
into
the
services
that
we're
providing
now
so
we're
looking
at
this
as
a
part
of
the
services
that
we
provide
for
eviction
protections
and
they
are
as
well.
I
F
F
B
B
F
Well,
that's
that's!
What's
my
saying
that
city
contract
is
for
all
tenants
and
landlords,
no
matter,
you
know
whether
they're
covered
under
the
cfra
or
not
so
non-covered
csfra
units
are
still
covered
by
the
city
contract
that
exists,
and
then
we
put
our
layer
on
top
of
that.
With
for
all
csf
array,
related
issues,
questions
and
clients.
J
To
also
directly
answer
the
question:
yes,
when
people
call
in
they
specify
we,
we
find
out
whether
or
not
they're
fully
covered
or
partially
covered
by
the
law
and
ensure
that
they
are
mountain
view
residents
for
the
information
that
we're
providing
under
our
contract.
So,
yes,
they
are
screened.
That
way
got
it.
Yeah.
I
Again,
my
it's
more
if
we
had
so
it
sounds
like
we
are
capturing
that
those
data
points
it'd
be
interesting.
If
we
could
lobby
other
other
groups
too,
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
ask
other
groups
to
pitch
in
more.
You
know
if
we
are
getting
a
lot
of
calls
of
people
who
are
in
you
know
single-family
homes,
but
it
sounds
like
already
this.
The
city
is
contributing
a
fair
amount,
so
that
doesn't
seem
like
a
viable
alternative.
J
The
calls
are
by
covered
by
by
and
by
people
who
are
covered
by
the
law
yeah,
we
don't
see
a
lot
of
single
family
homes
calling
in
it's
it's
mostly
people
who
are
fully
covered
by
the
law
fully
covered
not
even
partially
covered.
It's
mostly
people
who
are
fully
covered
by
the
law,
whether
that's
landlords
or
tenants,.
I
Get
it
and
last
question:
will
we
be
collecting
similar
data
about
the
the
new
program?
That's
that's.
You
know
the
one
that
the
city
is
contributing
to
and
we're
contributing
to
for
the
eviction
litigation.
I
J
Yeah
we're
already
collecting
all
of
that
information
for
the
services
that
we
already
provide
through
project
sentinel
and
through
our
team
here
and
for
the
litigation
services
and
the
wraparound
services
support.
We
will
be
collecting
that
information
as
well.
J
You
can
go
ahead,
okay,
so
for
our
rent,
stabilization
program,
webinars
and
office
hours.
These
are
separate
from
the
rent
relief
ones
and
the
eviction,
moratorium
and
rent
relief
line
andrea,
was
sharing
earlier.
We
have
two
upcoming
rent
stabilization
program.
Webinars
one
is
this
week
on
may
20th
and
it's
about
maintaining
habitability.
It's
tenant
focused
bilingual
and
on
may
27th
at
three
o'clock
we
have
a
property
registration,
webinar
for
step-by-step
instructions
for
people
who
need
to
register
their
property
through
our
database.
J
We
also
have
virtual
office
hours
every
friday,
and
people
can
sign
up
for
those
at
rsv
office
hours
and
we
have
our
virtual
coffee
catch
up
with
small
landlords,
and
it
is
focused
this
month
on
those
state,
rent
relief
applications-
and
you
can
contact
us
here.
This
slide
needs
to
be
updated
to
our
new
email
at
mvrent
mountainview.gov,
but
otherwise
you
can
contact
us
these
with
these
channels.
B
F
Have
one
question
I
I
I
I
would
like
to
kind
of
pre-warn
everybody
and
there
is
a
appeal
coming
up
and
we
are
probably
going
to
schedule
an
extra
rental
housing
committee
meeting
at
the
end
of
june,
if,
if
yeah,
if
that
is
necessary
for
this
appeal
hearing,
so
that
would
be
june
28th,
but
we'll
well
we'll
send
you
further
communication.
B
And
the
other
thing
is
that
we,
we
are
not
dropping
the
idea
of
a
team
building
session,
we're
just
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
participates
and
we're
going
to
try
and
bundle
it
into
a
future
meeting,
probably
august
or
september.