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From YouTube: 1-25-2021 - Mountain Rental Housing Committee Meeting
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Live teleconference meeting of the Mountain View Rental Housing Committee Meeting scheduled for Monday, January 25, 2021.
Live Video Conference: YouTube, mountainview.legistar.com, and Comcast Channel 26.
B
Awesome,
hello:
everyone
welcome
to
the
rhc
meeting.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
state
of
california
executive
order.
B
C
B
Here,
thank
you,
andrea.
Next,
we
have
minutes
approval
with
item.
3.1
approve
the
minutes
for
december
14,
2020
rfc
meeting
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
on
the
raised
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
sign
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains
see.
If
we
have,
I
see
no
hands
raised,
so
we
will
move
on
all
right.
B
B
B
Zero,
thank
you
andrea.
Next
up,
we
have
item
5
oral
communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
committee
on
any
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
allowed
to
speak
on
any
topic
for
up
to
three
minutes
during
this
section.
State
law
prohibits
the
committee
from
acting
on
non-agenda
items.
B
G
I
unmute
and
someone
immediately
muted
me:
can
someone
bring
up
the
slides
I
sent
in
please
I
don't
know
who's
managing
the
screen
show
right
now.
D
B
You,
okay,
we
can
do
that
next
up.
We
have
steve.
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
steve
and
I
have
been
trying
to
get
a
couple
of
questions
answered
and
was
suggested
that
I
maybe
bring
them
here
since
for
many
many
months
now,
renters
have
been
afforded
the
protection
of
essentially
free
rent,
I'm
wondering
if
landlords
are
offered
the
same
protections.
We
recently
received
the
mountain
view,
housing
invoices
for
the
year
and
I'm
wondering
if
they
have
to
be
paid
in
full
if
they
only
have
to
be
paid
25
similar
to
what
the
renters
are
required
to
do.
H
I'm
also
curious,
if
the,
if
the
late
fees
that
are
mentioned
on
the
invoices
will
be
waived
similar
to
the
way
late
fees
have
been
waived
for
renters.
Is
that
something
that
can
be
answered
here.
B
The
item
is
currently
not
on
the
agenda
steve,
but
we've
heard
what
you
said.
I
do
have
a
question:
do
you
have
tenants
that
are
are
currently
under
the
addiction
moratorium
or
currently
not
paying
rent
because
of
the
nation
moratorium.
H
Yes,
we
we
manage
close
to
200
units
in
mountain
view,
and
there
are
numerous
residents
that
the
vast
majority,
I
will
say,
are
making
an
effort
and
we
continue
to
work
with
them.
H
We
were
working
with
them
before
all
the
legislation
was
put
in
place,
but
unfortunately,
the
legislation
that
has
been
put
in
place
allows
for
people
to
take
total
gross
advantage
of
the
situation
and-
and
we
do
have
some
of
those
who
are-
you
know
thousands
and
thousands
and
thousands
of
dollars
in
in
the
rears
and-
and
I
don't
ever
expect
to
see
that
money-
I
expect
them
to
milk
it
until
they're.
We
have
legal
actions
afforded
to
us
at
which
time
they
will
just
declare
bankruptcy
and
move
on.
H
You
know,
luckily
enough.
The
number
of
people
taking
gross
advantage
of
the
situation
is
a
rather
small
percentage.
You
know
under
five
percent,
but
but
that
five
percent
can
can
rack
up
some
big
numbers
very
quickly,
but
the
vast
majority
of
people
are
are
making
payments.
H
You
know
I
don't
care
and
I
haven't
cared
since
the
pandemic
started
the
amount
that
people
are
paying.
You
know
there
are
customers
we're
going
to
work
with
them.
H
H
I
I
guess
the
the
question
is:
is
this
invoices
do
january
31st,
and
I,
how
can
I
get
a
response
to
to
the
question
prior
to
the
due
date.
B
I
But
steve,
if
you
can
send
us
an
email,
we
will
look
into
it.
H
I
I
have
sent
an
email.
I
sent
an
email
with
voicemail
and
today
I
I
got
a
hold
of
andrea
and
she's
the
one
who
who
suggested
attending
this
meeting.
H
J
So
anki
I
mean
from
a
procedural
standpoint
as
emily
said
steve.
You
know
if
we're
not
allowed
to
take
action
on
public
comment,
but
I
think
anki
the
proper
procedure
would
be
if
steve
had
a
proposal
would
be
to
submit
that
to
either
the
chair
or
the
rental
housing
committee.
J
You
know,
if
he's
proposing,
proposing
some
sort
of
forgiveness
for
landlord
fees
for
units
that
are
impacted
by
the
moratorium.
That
would
be
the
proper
channels,
but
per
occu's
point
I
think
steve.
The
answer
would
be
that
by
january
31st
we
we
can't
take
action.
You
know
it'd,
be
a
policy
change,
it's
something
that
the
rhc
would
need
to
discuss.
Is
that
fair
funky
on
what
on?
What
would
procedurally
need
to
happen
again?
No.
I
Absolutely
I
think,
and
again
we're
speaking
out
of
of
properly
agendized
agenda
items
here,
but
we
have
to
take
this
up
and
hopefully
bring
that
back
to
the
next
rental
housing
committee.
I
I
can
tell
you
what
we
did
last
year
last
year,
the
rental
housing
committee
adopted
that
they
were
not
going
to
impose
late
fees,
so
they
have
to
make
a
similar
decision
in
their
next
meeting.
If
that's
what
they
would
like
to
do
again,
but
again,
we
we
have
to
formalize
it
and
put
it
on
an
agenda.
H
All
right,
I
I
appreciate
your
time
and
understand
the
procedural
issues
I
I'll
just
end
with
saying
that
the
renters
didn't
have
to
form
a
proposition
to
be
offered
the
protections
they've
been
offered,
yet
the
landlords
appear
to
have
to
jump
through
more
hoops.
So,
but
I
appreciate
your
time
and
thank
you
for
taking
it
under
consideration.
A
Hello?
Yes,
okay,
all
right,
I'm
not
going
to
take
three
minutes.
Basically,
I
am
representing
the
seniors
of
the
mobile
home
parks
and,
as
you
know,
the
lawsuit
has
been
concluded
and
the
last
time,
the
last
two
meetings
on
september
13th
and
june
1st,
we
were
told
that
the
committee
could
not
move
forward
because
of
its
lawsuit.
Now
that
is
concluded,
and
we
expect
you
to
do
to
move
forward.
We
understand
that
there.
A
This
item
has
to
be
agenda,
and
it
will
take
some
time
to
do
that
and
in
good
faith.
We
will
wait
for
you
to
do
that.
But
at
this
point
you
should
know
that
the
people,
especially
the
seniors
in
the
mobile
home
parks,
are
very
anxious
about
this,
and
we
have
been
waiting
for
a
very,
very
long
time.
A
As
you
know,
measure
b
passed
in
november
of
2016,
and
this
is
four
years
four
plus
years
later
and
we
have
had
no
relief
from
from
increased
rates,
even
the
3.5
or
the
2.9
that
you're
offering
that
that
is
you're.
Seeing
this
year
is
a
stretch
for
people
who
are
on
social
security,
we
don't
get
colas
that
are
usually
usually
colas
are
one
percent
in
in
the
in
the
area
of
one,
maybe
two
percent
so
seniors
who
have
been
in
these
homes
for
a
very,
very
long
time.
A
Seeing
that
accumulate
over
years
is
a
very
threatening
prospect
and
it
is
scary
to
think
that
you
just
might
you
know,
lose
out
all
together
and
end
up
on
the
street
or
in
an
rv
or
in
a
family
member's
home,
or
god
knows
where.
So.
You
really
need
to
move
on
this,
and
you
have
to
move
on
this
in
the
next
few
months.
We
really
expected
of
you.
Thank
you.
You,
I
yield
my
time.
B
Thank
you
b
once
again.
If
you
would
like
to
make
public
comment,
this
is
the
area
for
non-agendas
item.
If
you'd
like
to
make
public
comment,
just
click
the
raised
hand,
button
or
press
star
9
if
you're
on
the
phone
next
up
is,
is
alexander
brown,
ready.
D
G
I
I
I'm
so
ready
all
right,
hi
committee
hi,
I'm
alex
I'm
from
the
mountain
view:
mobile
home
alliance,
click.
G
Yeah,
I'm
here
to
discuss
what
we
as
a
community
want
in
terms
of
protections.
When
do
we
want
it
spoiler?
It
is
when
the
csf
array
was
passed
by
the
voters
in
mountain
view
as
measure
v
five
years
ago,
and
what
are
we
asking
you,
the
committee
to
do?
G
Basically,
we
want
rent
stabilization
to
cap
the
increases
we
want
to
try
to
keep
people
in
their
homes,
which
is
something
we
have
not
been
doing
as
a
city,
and
you
know
I'm
okay
with
having
a
petition
process
for
the
sake
of
fairness
to
be
able
to
allow
for
rent
increases
as
needed,
maybe
through
project
sentinel.
G
I
also
think
that
vacancy
control
is
paramount
to
this
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
there's
an
incentive
for
the
parks
to
keep
people
in
their
homes
and
not
a
reason
to
to
get
them
to
leave,
to
keep
the
housing
affordable
and
also
to
preserve
the
equity
of
the
people
who
have
put
you
know
their
blood
and
tears
into
the
houses
that
they
bought
and
have
maintained
during
their
tenure
in
the
parks.
G
We
also
know
that
the
parks
are
vulnerable
to
other
things,
which
is
why
we
need
something
like
zoning.
The
protection
redevelopment,
which
we
already
have
I'll
first
write
a
refusal
in
case
of
sale
so
that
people
can
take
control
of
their
the
destiny
of
their
own
housing
situation
and
buy
the
parks
and
maintain
them
and
then
controlled
by
by
people
of
their
housing.
Another
situation.
G
This
is
stuff
that
next
slide,
you
know
falls
outside
of
the
protections
of
the
csfra.
But
what
you
can
do
is
give
us
the
two
big
items
which
is
rent
stabilization
and
vacancy
control,
because
the
csra
provides
it
are
mobile
homes
and
mobile
home
spaces,
covered
click
well
in
the
csfra
rental.
G
Yes,
next
slide.
This
is
us
the
presentation
given
to
the
irc
in
january
2018,
which
says
yes.
Yes,
we
are
next
slide.
Why
haven't
we
been
covered
because
three
out
of
the
five
members
of
the
irc
in
2018
were
confused
next
slide?
G
We
tried
to
get
the
courts
to.
You
know
clarify
to
the
confused
members
that
rental
units
are
rental
units.
Basically,
they
said
that
the
rhc
has
the
power
to
interpret
the
csra,
and
so
they're
allowed
to
be
confused,
and
the
appellate
court
can
reaffirm
this,
noting
that
in
the
decision
in
many
ways,
mobile
homes
are
covered,
they're
interpreted
by
com
as
covered
the
provisions
right
support
and
inference
that
they
intended
the
csf
csf
rate
mobile
homes.
G
K
Thank
you
good
everyone,
I'm
tim
larson.
I
live
in
santiago
villa
and
I'm
also
part
of
the
mobile
mountain
view
mobile
home
alliance.
Just
to
sort
of
finish
what
alex
was
saying?
Could
you
please
put
up
alex's
last
slide?
Do
you
still
have
that
available.
K
And
if
you
don't
I'll,
just
try
to
finish
by
saying
you
guys
had
the
choice,
the
committee-
sorry,
you
know
the
committee
has
changed
composition
at
one
point
in
time
the
committee
had
the
discretion
and
they
said
we're
confused,
we're
not
sure
that
we
should
be
covered.
The
courts
have
said
that
you
have
discretion
to
make
that
choice.
It
doesn't
affirm
one
way
or
the
other.
You
still
have
that
discretion
and
we'd
like
you
to
move
forward
in
pursuing
that.
K
As
many
of
you
have
said,
you
would
like
to
do
if
there
was
no
lawsuit
pending,
and
so
I
think
a
concrete
step
would
be
to
have
some
sort
of
report
or
read
out
to
the
public
about
where
you
are
in
this
process.
K
L
Morales
hi
there
can
you
hear
me
yes
perfect,
so
I
would
like
to
say
it
has
been
a
long
five
years
since
the
rhc
failed
mobile
home
residence
by
not
covering
us
under
the
csfra.
L
L
Martin
luther
king
jr
said
life's
most
persistent
and
urgent
question
is:
what
are
you
doing
for
others?
I
asked
the
rhc:
what
are
they
doing
for
vulnerable
and
unprotected
mobile
home
residents?
The
great
dr
king
also
said
never
never
be
afraid
to
do
what's
right,
especially
if
the
well-being
of
a
person
or
animal
is
at
stake.
Society's
punishments
are
small
compared
to
the
wounds
we
inflict
on
our
soul.
L
C
A
You
should
be
able
to
unmute
yourself,
I'm
I'm
not
touching
anything.
Okay
am
all
right
now.
I
won't
touch
a
thing.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
the
csfra
does
cover
mobile
home
renders
some
mobile
home
dwellers
rent
the
house.
They
live
in,
and
some
of
us
own,
the
house
and
just
rent
the
property.
A
The
county
courts
have
decided
that
the
rhc
may
interpret
the
csfra
on
this
issue.
I
think
that's
clear
to
everybody,
and
the
right
thing
to
do
is
recognize
that
your
incorrect
in
the
interpretation
of
the
law
and
recognize
that
it
was
a
mistake.
A
I
invite
any
member
of
this
committee
to
come
visit
me
and
my
neighbors
and
quiz
us
to
understand
that
our
situation
from
the
point
of
view
of
the
intention
of
the
law
and
the
specifics
of
the
law
is
no
different
from
that
of
any
renter.
In
an
apartment
in
mountain
view,
then,
what
you
have
to
do
is
reverse
your
original
decision
and
include
mobile
home
park
renters
in
the
csfra.
M
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
awesome
well,
as
you
said,
my
name
is
kristen
and
I
live
in
the
santiago
mobile
home
park.
I've
been
here
11
years
and
it's
definitely
there's
a
need
for
us
to
be
covered
from
with
rent
protections.
So
I
want
to
thank
thank
you
in
advance
for
finally
protecting
the
mobile
home
communities
and
doing
your
job
and
advancing
the
purposes
of
the
csfra.
M
So
again,
I
just
urge
you
to.
Please
include
mobile
homes
and
mobile
home
spaces
as
fully
covered
rental
units
and
as
alex
b
tan
manager.
As
everybody
has
been
saying,
the
ball
is
in
your
courts.
The
lawsuit
is
no
longer
an
issue,
and
so
I'm
very
excited
to
finally
get
some
proper
rent
cover
for
everyone
for
the
new
people
that
are
moving
in
to
keep
management
from
hiking
up
those
rents
for
new
people
coming
in
just
ridiculously
high
and
protect
us
residents
that
are
in
here
as
well
as
the
renters.
M
So
I
thanks.
I
thank
everybody
for
stepping
up
and
voicing
our
opinions
and
everything,
and
we
definitely
need
some
representation
and
some
rental
coverage.
I
appreciate
it
thanks.
B
I
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
members
of
the
rental
housing
committee.
I
would
like
to
present
to
you
the
staffing
plan
for
the
rent
stabilization
program
for
this
coming
year.
I
And
the
purpose
of
this
presentation
is
for
the
rental
housing
committee
to
consider
expanding
the
staffing
positions
with
one
additional
analyst
position
and
an
upgrade
of
the
administrative
physician
position
from
office
assistant
to
secretary,
as
we
will
further
explain
in
the
upcoming
slides
just
a
little
bit
of
background.
I
think
three
of
you
were
here
when,
on
september,
11
2017,
the
real
housing
committee
adopted
its
first
staffing
plan,
including
a
program
manager.
I
Two
administrative
analysts
and
one
office
assistant,
and
our
own
housing
committee
also
expressed
a
wish
to
periodically
assess
the
staffing
levels
to
effectively
administer
the
program
and
with
the
recognition
that
these
might
be
adjusted
in
the
future.
This
was
september,
11
was
kind
of
the
startup
phase
of
the
whole
run
stabilization
program,
and
the
staffing
plan
at
the
time
was
based
on
best
estimations,
and
here
we
are
today.
We
would
like
to
further
refine
this.
I
So
we
analyze
the
volume
of
the
work,
but
also
the
level
of
skills
and
the
level
of
experience
needed
to
adequately
implement
and
administer
the
duties
of
the
program
and
determine
if
and
what
additional
staffing
resources
are
necessary.
I
So
the
following
is
an
overview,
organizational
overview
of
what
we
propose
the
staffing
to
look
like
for
the
rental
housing
program.
As
you
see,
we
added
a
senior
management
analyst
and
one
and
we
upgraded
the
admin
position
from
an
office
administ
administration
to
a
secretary.
I
I
I
So
it's
proposed
to
add
one
analyst
at
the
level
of
senior
management
analyst
for
the
program
due
to
the
complexities
of
the
work
and
constant
evolving
policies,
and
this
position
seem
to
be
the
adequate
level
and
this
allows
the
team
to
employ
an
analyst
at
the
correct
experience
level
for
the
types
of
skills
responsibilities
as
more
outlined
in
the
memo.
And
currently
these
responsibilities
are
being
performed
by
the
analyst
two
position.
I
The
office's
system.
Position
provides
general
routine
clerical
duties
with
close
supervision,
whereas
the
tasks
and
responsibilities
of
the
program
are
really
distinguishable
from
routine
clerical
duties
and
include
a
wide
range
of
tasks
performed
both
independently
and
with
involvement
of
staff,
and
these
types
of
duties
require
more
experience
in
terms
of
years,
training
and
skill
level.
As
you
can
see
at
the
list
of
responsibilities
that
are
summarized
at
this
slide.
I
This
slide
shows
the
total
amount
of
costs
per
job
category
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
difference
between
employing
a
secretary
versus
an
office
assistant
is
23
800
per
year,
and
the
difference
between
an
analyst
and
a
senior
management
analyst
is
16
600
per
year.
All
of
these
numbers
are
fully
loaded
cost,
which
means
salary,
health,
pension
and
liabilities,
and
these
are
the
general
numbers
that
are
used
by
the
whole
city
for
all
its
positions.
I
A
little
bit
about
the
budget,
the
budgetary
of
impacts
for
this
fiscal
year,
the
rental
housing
committee
was
able
to
already
have
some
budget
savings
in
the
personnel
cost
of
121
500,
and
if
we
are
able
to
make
a
recruitment
for
these
positions
in
this
fiscal
year
say
for
the
coming
four
months.
That
would
amount
to
seventy
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
eight
dollars.
I
If
the
rental
housing
committee
decides
to
adopt
the
recommended
staffing
plan,
the
personnel
budget
for
next
year
would
be
increased
by
a
and
total
of
thousand
six
hundred
dollars.
I
A
I
I
don't
have
a
slide,
but
I
do
have
the
numbers.
So
if
you
were
to
look
at
next,
if
you
could
go
one
slide
back
to
the
overview,
one
more
yeah.
So
if
you
look
at
next
fiscal
year
2122,
if
you
take
the
secretary
position,
the
total
cost
would
be
161
300,
but
the
pure
salary
would
be
87
885.
I
I
And
and
these
numbers
are
control-
point
numbers
that
doesn't
mean
that
people
start
in
that
point,
but
that's
pretty
much
often
used
as
the
midpoint
of
a
career
in
this
type
of
job.
C
N
Yeah,
what
would
happen
if
we
didn't
take
any
action,
many
thoughts
on
how
we
would
do
in
the
next
year,
or
so.
I
Well,
one:
if
we
don't
get
extra
personnel,
we
continue
to
work,
90-100
hour,
bi-weekly,
work
periods
and,
and
to
be
honest,
that
is
not
sustainable
in
the
longer
term.
I
think
we're
already
at
that
point
where
we
are
feel
sometimes
that
we
can't
go
deep
enough
in
our
research
and
that
we
really
really
would
like
to
spend
more
time
on
certain
topics
that
might
not
be
viewable
on
the
outside
world,
and
the
other
option
is
that
some
of
the
work
will
not
get
done.
E
I
Yes,
so
for
certain
positions,
when
they
make
overtime,
they
can
charge
overtime,
hours,
sure
absolutely
yep.
Thank
you.
A
A
B
All
right,
so
if
there
are
no
other
questions
from
committee
members.
J
I
had
a
question,
but
I
I
tried
to
raise
my
hand.
It
seems
like
it
may
not
be
be
working
but
anki.
I
one
question
I
had
first,
how
do
you
feel
or
in
the
beginning
I
think
we
we
had
a
high
number
of
petitions
that
we
were
budgeting
for
you
know
to
be
conservative,
so
we
wouldn't
get
into
a
situation
where
you
know
staff
was
overworked
or
that
we
ran
out
of
budget,
and
I
guess
my
question
would
be
over
time.
J
Do
you
have
more
of
a
sense
of
of
how
petition
volume
will
go
or
like
will
our
litigation
costs
kind
of
be
decreasing?
What
you've
seen
from
other
jurisdictions?
J
Do
you
feel
like
we're
following
a
trend
where
we
will
have
fewer
petitions
or
more
petitions
and
how
that
might
weigh
on
the
decision
that
we
have
here.
I
Yeah,
so,
first
off
our
time
is
not
primarily
spent
on
petitions.
We
already
I
mean
we
do
have
a
certain
amount
of
time
allotted
for
the
petition
process
and
the
the
the
most
of
the
budget
that
we
allotted
for
petitions
was
in
the
form
of
the
hearing
officers
and
project
sentinel,
who
were
administering
the
hearing
processes.
I
Our
processes
take
as
much
time
whether
we
have
50
or
75
petitions,
and
we
would
like
to
allocate
that
to
an
analyst
position
and
then
have
the
senior
management
position
more
informed
with
the
policies
and
regulations
to
streamline
everything
even
better.
I
J
Thank
you
and
maybe
a
quick
follow-up
there.
I
guess:
are
there
any
temporary
options
for
increased?
You
know
kind
of
salary
or
overtime,
any
options
we
have
there.
Since
we
have
the
surplus,
I
think
the
only
hesitance
is
is
just
locking
you
know
walking
additional
fiscal
costs,
for
you
know
the
foreseeable
future.
J
I
Yeah
for
the
admin
position,
we
do
currently
have
a
temp
position,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
find
a
temp
person
for
the
analyst
position.
Those
types
of
work
are
not
easily
found
in
the
temp
agencies
that
are
being
used.
A
It
appears
to
me
that
the
workload
continues
to
increase
rather
than
decrease,
and
I
don't
think
we
can
anticipate
that.
Suddenly
it's
going
to
be
easier.
My
concern
would
be
regarding
burnout
for
this,
the
existing
staff
that,
at
a
certain
point
you
know
you
hit
a
wall
and
are
not
as
productive
or
consider
other
options.
A
I
Definitely
seen
that
susan,
I
think
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
instead
of
us
easing
into
the
program
and
easing
into
the
procedures
that
we
worked
so
hard
to
set
up
in
the
past
three
years.
We
are
being
being
hit
with
new
new
programs,
new
policies
continuously,
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
abating
anytime
soon.
That's.
B
G
Hey
the
the
staff
of
the
rhc
has
been
incredible
and
all
the
work
they've
done
all
the
webinars
the
presentations,
the
policy
they've
put
together
through
these
last
few
years
is
great.
I
think
that,
having
a
broad
and
diverse
team
having
a
lot
of
people
a
lot
different
eyes,
different
perspectives
and
different
roles
is
important
for
the
health
of
any
organization
and
no
matter
how
strong
each
person
is,
the
community,
the
group
as
a
whole
like
they
need.
G
They
read
the
resources
they
need
and
if
they
say
that
they
need
more
resources,
I
say
trust
them
and
believe
them
they're
the
experts
they're
the
ones
doing
the
work,
they're
the
ones
actually
doing
work
and
you
know
to
try
to
find
ways
to
not
acknowledge
their
contributions
or
their
requests
is
shitty.
Misogynistic.
All
right
thanks.
K
Hi
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
second
alex's
comment
that
the
city
staff
has
been
incredible.
K
You
know
I've
had
a
lot
of
interaction
with
them
over
the
years
and
they've
always
been
prompt
and
professional,
and
I
would
second
the
call
to
put
out
a
call
for
hiring
new
people
and,
as
anki
said,
these
are
not
the
sort
of
positions
you
can
really
do
with
temps
they're,
not
entry
level.
So
you
know
I've
faced
similar
staffing
issues
at
my
company.
We
have
the
same
type
of
problems
for
some
positions.
K
B
Thank
you,
tim
morrison.
Do
you
have
anyone
else?
I
didn't
read
the
part
of
the
script
for
that.
So
would
any
member
of
the
public
on
the
line
like
to
provide
comment
on
this
item?
If
so,
please
click
the
raise
hand,
button
and
zoom
or
press
star
9
on
your
phone
staff
will
keep
time
and
announce
when
one
minute
remains
so
seeing
no
other
hands
up
we're
going
to
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
where
a
motion
is
in
order.
D
I
was
I
was
okay.
Can
I
can
I
ask
for
a
clarification
on
the
recommendation?
Is
the
record
the
motion
is
the
motion
to
consider
expanding
the
rent
stabilization
program
staffers
the
motion
to
expand.
E
All
I
wanted
to
say
is
I'm
seconding
the
motion
to
expand
specifically,
because
I
think
one
thing
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
is
when
we
look
at
the
expense
that
that
staffing
has
that
human
beings
have
it
does
look
large
in
number,
but
churn
in
employees
is
also
very
expensive.
It's
very
expensive
to
find
people
train
them
and
then
have
them
leave.
E
J
Sure
yeah,
I
I
want
to
echo
the
comments
that
I
think
our
staff
is,
does
a
great
job
and
supports
us
very
well
and-
and
I
do
trust
anki
in
that
yeah.
This
is
a
lot
of
work
and
and
they'd
like
to
go
deeper
on
certain
research
topics.
J
I'm
just
trying
to
offset
that
or
balance
that
with
increased
costs,
I
mean
we
have
a
fixed
number
of
of
units
in
that
view,
and
there
are
some
scenarios
where
I
think
there's
there's
increasing
workload
for
the
foreseeable
future
and
then
there
are
other
options
that
we've
seen
in
other
jurisdictions,
where
actually
the
workload,
because
of
the
way
that
the
laws
have
been
formulated
ends
up
trailing
off
over
time
and
it
ends
up
mostly
becoming
a
rent
board
and
not
as
much
you
know,
probably
getting
new
brakes.
J
So
you
know,
I
think,
we're
still
in
early
stages,
and
I
guess
I
would
ask
you
know
that
I
think
this
is
an
investment
worth
making
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
marketing
in
the
early
years.
So
is
there
something
that
we
could
try
to
you
know
if
we
were
making
this
investment?
Can
we
offset
something
else
so
that
our
fixed
number
of
units,
the
ultimate
cost,
can
come
down
the
annual
fee
for
each
individual
unit?
You
know,
can
either
stay
level
or
or
be
reduced?
So
that's
that's
more.
J
B
It's
really
not
easy
working
with
me,
so
I
applaud
staff
on
that,
and
I
I
I
like
committee
member
haynes
say
has
mentioned
before
turn
and
turnover
is
much
more
costly
to
really
any
organization,
and
I
think
the
the
I
was
about
to
say
the
fun
of
the
beginning,
starting
something
new
is
probably
worn
thin
by
now
and
we're
still
getting
new
things,
but
I
think
we're
starting
to
see
that
that
creep
of
of
fatigue-
and
it
takes
more
than
than
adrenaline
to
get
them
through
this-
that
they
need
help.
B
A
B
D
Sorry
about
that,
my
mute
was
acting
a
little
funny
this
evening
as
well
good
evening.
Everyone
thank
you
chair
ramos
and
committee
member
members.
Item
8.2
is
a
study
session
for
capital,
improvement,
petitions
and
joint
petitions
between
property
owners
and
tenants,
and
this
is
a
study
session.
So
no
motions
are
to
be
had
at
this
time,
but
we
will
be
asking
for
policy
input
as
we
go
through
the
study
session
this
evening.
So
also,
please
feel
free
to
ask
questions
if
you
need
it.
D
The
first
is
the
annual
general
adjustment
of
rent
at
100
of
the
consumer
price
index
for
all
items
for
the
bay
area
region.
The
second
is
through
vacancy
control.
This
is
the
bulk
of
the
way
that
property
owners
are
insured,
a
fair
return
on
their
investment,
and
this
happens
through
turnover
of
rental
units
on
average.
D
20
of
rental
units
in
mountain
view
are
consistently
turned
over
every
year
and
that
with
some
caveats
and
exceptions,
means
that
about
100
of
units
are
turned
over
every
five
years
and
that's
pretty
consistent
across
the
county
and
through
the
region,
and
then
the
last
way
that
we
ensure
a
fair
rate
of
return
is
through
individual
petitions
through
for
upward
adjustment
of
rent
using
a
fair
return
standard
of
some
sort.
D
So
the
rhc
has
authority
over
this
through
the
csfrh
section,
1708,
1710
and
1711,
and
the
rhc
is
given
the
authority
to
promulgate
regulations,
to
establish
rules
and
regulations
for
the
administration
and
enforcement
of
the
law,
to
implement
the
petition
process
and
to
provide
landlords
with
a
mechanism
for
achieving
a
fair
rate
of
return.
That
addresses
individualized
circumstances.
D
D
The
big
outreach
efforts
were
done
during
city
council
ad
hoc
subcommittee
meetings.
There
were
quite
a
few
opportunities
to
discuss
this
very
issue
and
the
council
ad
hoc
subcommittees,
discussed
potential
csf
amendments
for
a
city
initiative,
initiated
ballot,
amendment
and
reviewed
a
number
of
areas
they
were
interested
in
amending.
D
City
council
also
has
council
goals
that
are
interested
in
the
preservation
of
affordable
housing
and
the
capital
improvement
petition
process
supports
those
council
goals
and
the
council
major
goals
work
plan.
Additionally,
there
has
been
council
policy
directed
for
soft
story
retrofit
projects,
and
this
supports
property
compliance
with
council
ordinances
that
change
or
update
codes,
such
as
soft
story
retrofits.
D
D
So
during
those
community
meetings
we
held
them
virtually
on
december
9th
we
had
one
for
property
owners
with
11
attendees
and
one
for
covered
tenants
with
eight
attendees.
This
one
was
bilingual
and
we
did
the
following
outreach
efforts
to
get
the
word
out
about
it.
We
had
one
postcard
in
english
and
spanish,
two
emails
to
our
csfra
interest
lists.
City
calendars
were
updated
with
the
stakeholder
meeting
information
and
the
registration
links
and
the
website
homepage
slideshow
was
updated
with
the
information
and
the
registration
links.
D
D
Okay,
seeing
no
questions
right
now,
I
will
move
into
cost
recovery
mechanisms,
and
these
are
the
three
cost
recovery
mechanisms
for
property
owners.
The
first
one
is
the
one
you're
all
aware
of
the
annual
general
adjustment
of
rent,
which
changes
every
september,
and
this
year
it's
2.9
percent
based
on
the
consumer
price
index.
D
We
also
have
vacancies
control,
which
I
briefly
discussed
a
moment
ago
and
then
finally,
the
one
that
we
are
talking
about
tonight.
The
upward
adjustment
of
rent
petition
process
and
the
one
that
we
currently
have
is,
through
the
fair
return
standard
of
a
maintenance
of
net
operating
and
competition,
and
the
one
we're
talking
about
today
is
specified
capital
improvement
petition
which
is
under
consideration.
D
So
for
the
current
process
for
the
mnoi
petitions,
landlords
must
show
that
they
were
unable
to
maintain
their
operating
income
between
the
base
year,
which
is
2015
and
then
adjusted
for
inflation
and
the
petition
year
to
prove
a
loss
occurred.
Landlords
must
do
the
following.
They
have
to
show
all
income
and
expenses
on
the
property
for
all
requested
time
periods.
D
They
have
to
provide
profit
and
loss
statements
for
three
years
and
provide
all
of
the
income
and
expense
documentation
and
records
for
the
base
year,
as
well
as
for
the
petition
year,
and
this
is
an
extensive
process
and
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
documentation
that
has
to
be
provided.
They
have
to
complete
the
petition
packet
and
participate
fully
in
the
petition
process.
D
So
basically
that
means
that
if
at
any
time
they
decide
to
not
participate-
or
they
do
not
show
up
to
the
hearing,
then
they
essentially
say
that
they
have
withdrawn
the
petition
from
us.
We
have
not
seen
that,
which
is
nice,
but
we
have
seen
a
few
mnoi
petitions.
I
think
we've
had
about
17
to
20
at
this
point
and
for
the
most
part,
if
a
property
owner
has
petitioned
the
city
for
an
upward
adjustment
of
rent,
they
have
received
that
upward
adjustment
of
rent,
as
decided
upon
by
the
hearing
officer.
D
So
the
current
petition
process
goes
as
follows:
property
owners
have
to
first
complete
the
petition.
Typically
they
do
that
with
me.
If
they
are
going
through
a
petition,
we
walk
through
each
section
of
the
petition
together
and
I
help
them
make
sure
that
everything
is
organized
and
ready
to
go,
and
then
they
serve
the
petition
on
their
tenants
and
file
it
formally
with
the
city.
D
If
they
elect
to
have
a
settlement
conference,
they
will
enter
into
that
process
and
if
they
don't,
then
we
go
into
the
hearing
process,
which
is
a
formal
hearing
with
a
hearing
officer
and
then
there's
a
decision
that
is
written
by
a
hearing
officer
and,
if
applicable,
it
then
could
be
appealed
to
the
rhc,
and
we
are
now
considering
an
expedited
petition
process
for
capital
improvements.
Only
this
would
be
a
temporary
increase
to
recover
capital,
improvement
costs
and
capital
improvement.
Petitions
are
very
common
in
most
rent
stabilized
jurisdictions.
D
You
do
have
them
and
they
are
part
of
most
rent
stabilized
programs
because
they
encourage
landlords
to
proactively
maintain
their
property.
They
promote
safe
and
healthy
housing
for
tenants,
and
this
ties
into
council
goals.
They
reduce
potential
large-scale
displacements,
again
ties
into
council
goals.
D
They
also
reduce
the
likelihood
that
a
building
will
have
extensive
code
violations
will
ten
where
tenants
would
be
forced
to
move
because
the
building's,
not
in
compliance
with
the
law,
to
such
an
extent
that
tenants
cannot
live
there
and
they
are
critical
to
preserving,
affordable
housing
stock
in
the
city,
especially
when
we
start
seeing
mandatory
code
ordinances
like
soft
story
retrofits,
as
you
can
see
here,
like
I
said,
most
rent
stabilized
jurisdictions
have
or
are
creating
both
types
of
petition
processes,
so
alameda
berkeley,
hayward,
los
angeles,
oaklands
and
cisco
san
jose.
D
They
all
have
both
types
of
petitions
or
some
form
of
both
types
of
petitions
and
additionally,
santa
monica
and
hollywood
or
west
hollywood
are
both
looking
at
implementing
a
capital
improvement
petition
process
as
well.
D
So
now
we
get
into
the
heart
of
the
discussion,
which
is
what
we're
looking
at
today,
which
is
our
proposed
policies.
So
there's
a
few
things
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
go
through
this.
The
csfra
limits
capital
improvements
to
improvements
that
are
necessary
to
bring
the
property
into
compliance
with
applicable
laws
and
cannot
include
costs
that
could
have
been
avoided
with
the
exercise
of
reasonable
diligence
in
maintaining
the
property
specified.
D
The
capital
improvement
process
would
determine
a
fair
rate
of
return,
can
be
achieved
either
by
the
mnoi
petition
or
by
the
recovery
of
cost
of
certain
capital
improvements,
and
these
increases
are
again
temporary
adjustments
to
recover
authorized
costs.
It
ends
at
the
end
of
amortization
period
or
at
vacancy
control.
So
the
increases
associated
by
this
petition
would
end
if
the
tenant
vacated
the
unit.
D
We'll
also
take
a
look
at
the
authorized
expenses
that
we're
proposing
documentation
that
would
be
necessary,
cost
sharing
of
expenses
and
the
amortization
period,
so
the
for
the
petition
process.
Again,
it
would
be
more
of
an
administrative
process
where
landlords
complete
a
shortened
petition
that
includes
documentation
on
the
type
and
cost
of
the
capital
improvement
installed.
They
serve
that
on
the
tenants
and
file
it
with
the
city.
This
would
be
a
shorter
process
and
unless
a
full
hearing
is
requested
by
affected
parties,
it
would
only
be
administrative
and
hardship.
D
Petitions
would
be
allowed
in
the
process.
If
there
is
no
hearing,
the
hearing
officer
would
decide
on
the
petition
administratively
with
a
formal
decision
and
if
a
hearing's
requested
the
hearing
would
be
held
within
30
days
and
subsequently
appealable
decision
would
be
issued
after
that.
If
there's
no
appeal,
then
the
decision
is
final.
Just
like
it
is
in
the
mnoi
process.
D
D
They
must
primarily
benefit
the
tenant
rather
than
the
landlord
and
be
permanently
fixed
in
place
or
relatively
immobile.
They
must
also
have
a
useful
life
of
more
than
one
year
and
they
are
required
to
be
amortized
over
the
useful
life
of
the
improvement
and
they
must
appreciably
prolong
the
useful
life
of
the
property.
D
So
then,
this
next
kind
of
smaller
bucket
or
bigger
bucket.
However,
you
want
to
think
of
it
are
the
categories,
and
these
would
be
things
like
a
new
roof
covering
all
or
substantially
all
of
a
building
or
a
structurally
independent
portion
of
a
building
or
and
significant
upgrade
of
the
foundation
of
all
substantially
or
all
of
substantially
all
of
a
building
or
a
structurally
independent
portion
of
a
building.
D
Inspection
report,
the
installation
of
water
conservation
devices
intended
to
reduce
the
use
of
water
or
energy
efficient
devices
such
as
solar
roof
systems
and
or
improvements
or
upgrades
to
the
rental
unit
or
the
building
com
or
complex
that
meet
or
exceed
disability
and
accessibility
standards,
as
required
by
law.
And
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
with
you
what
the
authorized
expenses
look
like.
D
D
D
D
Instead
of
having
to
provide
all
income
and
expense
documentation
for
the
property,
the
we're
proposing
that
they
provide
a
specific
description
of
a
capital
improvement
and,
as
provided
in
the
authorized,
improvement
and
amortization
schedule,
we
just
looked
at
the
invoices
receipts
contracts
or
similar
similar
documentation
to
prove
that
the
expense
occurred.
D
The
evidence
of
loan
and
interest
rate,
if
applicable,
to
the
improvement,
cost
estimates
by
a
third
party
if
the
landlord
is
requesting
approval
in
advance
of
the
expense,
a
business
license,
if
applicable,
csf
array,
compliance
and
the
tenant
rent
role
within
the
initial
move-in
date.
This
is
important
because
we
cannot
have
a
capital
improvement
increase,
be
applied
to
a
tenant
that
was
not
in
the
unit
when
the
expense
occurred
and
now
to
get
into
some
of
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
of
the
policy
options.
D
So
when
we're
discussing
these
programs,
there
are
different
cost-sharing
mechanisms
to
think
love.
When
we
initially
brought
regulations
to
the
rhc,
we
proposed
a
100
cost
recovery
for
for
the
the
petition
process
and
when
we
brought
this
to
the
community
and
did
more
research
with
peer
jurisdictions,
we
found
that
that,
because
capital
improvement,
petitions
improve
the
property
for
the
landlord,
the
property
owner
themselves
does
receive.
D
There
was
concern
about
the
burden
of
the
cost
share
fully
falling
on
the
tenants,
and
that
is
the
reason
why
many
jurisdictions
do
have
a
cost
share
that
is
split
between
the
property
owner
and
the
tenant,
and
so
we
would
like
to
receive
feedback
today
on
proposed
cost
sharing
options,
one
would
be
at
50,
and
so
the
cost
share
would
be
split
between
tenant
and
property
owner
at
50,
which
is
similar
to
hayward's
regulations.
D
The
other
is
a
70
which
is
similar
to
oakland
and
then
there's
an
option
to
split
the
type
of
cost
share
between
the
type
of
of
property.
So
this
would
be
similar
to
san
francisco,
where
smaller
landlords,
with
five
or
fewer
units,
have
a
100
cost
recovery
opportunity
with
their
tenants
where
the
tenants
could
the
100
of
the
cost
recovery
would
be
shared
amongst
the
tenants
only
and
then
for
larger
properties.
It's
a
50
cost
recovery
with
between
the
tenant
and
the
landlord.
D
Additionally,
we
propose
that
you
consider
the
following:
total
amounts
for
associated
increases,
a
10
of
the
rent
cap,
which
is
inclusive
of
the
annual
general
adjustment
and
banked
increases
for
a
year,
and
that
could
be
kept
at
also
a
certain
dollar
amount
per
year.
So
this
would
again
be
somewhere
in
san
francisco.
D
They
have
a
percentage
cap
of
how
much
of
the
rent
it
can
increase
by
and
that's
capped,
also
at
thirty
dollars
annually,
sorry
per
month
and
then
three
percent
to
five
percent
of
rent,
which
is
not
inclusive
of
the
annual
general
adjustment
and
is
not
capped
at
a
specific
dollar
amount
per
year.
This
is
similar
to
what
hayward
and
san
jose
do
and
we
can
take
a
look
at
the
peer
jurisdictions
and
how
this
breaks
down.
D
If
anyone
is
interested
as
well
and
then
the
proposed
amortization
schedules
are
in
the
authorized
expenses
and
amortization
schedule
b,
and
we
recommend
that
they,
the
expense
sun,
sets
at
the
end
of
the
amortization
period
or
at
vacancy
decontrol,
and
if
the
cost
of
the
capital
improvement
exceeds
the
amount
that
can
be
collected
with
a
specified
capital
improvement
for
the
temporary
adjustment
of
rent.
The
landlord
can
also
potentially
elect
for
a
longer
amortization
period.
D
J
I
did
have
a
a
question
on
this
one.
If
sorry,
if
anyone
else
said
a
comment,
patricia
as
I
was
going
through
the
list,
you
see
kind
of
water
recapture
and
yeah,
I
think
solar
and
even
sighting,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
there's
not-
and
maybe
I
don't
know
our
code
as
well
as
I
should
but
but
like,
if
those
are
not,
would
they
be
on
the
list
to
if
future
code
changes
and
requires
water
collection
or
in
what
scenario
like
in
what
scenario
would
let's
say,
water
collection,
qualify.
D
So,
are
you
looking
at
the
amortization
schedule
a
which,
what
are
you
looking
at
for
your
computer.
J
I'm
sorry
just
yeah,
so
sorry
it's,
it
seemed
as
though
that
they
it's
a
it's
a
non-starter
unless
the
improvement
is
to
maintain
or
bring
the
property
up
to
code.
I
don't
have
the
exact
wording
in
front
of
me,
but
from
the
first
slide
right.
That's
that
needs
to
be
that's.
J
Yeah
that
needs
to
be
met
right.
So
then,
when
we,
when
we
look
at
categories,
you
had
water
collection,
and
I
again-
maybe
that
is
part
of
current
code
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
familiar
with
it.
But
let's
say
that
that
isn't
required
to
bring
a
building
up
to
code.
O
So
I
think
that
one
of
the
categories
that
we're
suggesting
for
the
petition
is
measures
that
enhance
the
environmental
sustainability
of
the
property,
but
what
we
had
talked
about
the
last
time
we
talked
about
that
is
that
would
be
to
the
extent
that
those
are
required
or
part
of
the
city
code.
The
city
does
have
a
green
building
code.
O
There
are
other
provisions,
I
don't
know
exactly
what's
in
them,
I'll
be
honest
with
you,
but
the
expectation
is
that
over
time
those
codes
will
expand
and
the
goal
would
be
to
encourage
property
owners
to
implement
sustainability
measures,
to
the
extent
that
they
don't
increase
the
cost
to
the
tenants
so
that
they,
you
know
we
all
can
take
advantage
of
that.
So
that's
the
thinking
I
just
I've
been
going
through
the
list
and
I'm
not
seeing
the
water
collection,
but
that
might
be
an
example
of
something
that
may
be
coming
in
the
future.
J
Got
it
okay?
That
makes
sense,
so
I
mean
it's
more
for
future
compatibility
and
I
guess
my
request
would
be
you
know.
If
we
decide
to
move
forward
a
committee
that
yeah
we
have,
we
have
kind
of
a
playbook
or
or
some
guidance
on.
J
You
know
that
some
of
these
are
forward
thinking,
but
they
may
not
be
something
that
you
can.
You
could
implement
now
and
would
qualify
according
to
the
csfra
requirement
that
it
be
something
that's
required
to
bring
the
building
up.
The
code
is
that
is
that
fair
yeah.
D
B
One
of
the
going
back
to
the
possibility
of
having
the
cost
sharing,
with
the
the
possibility
of
having
different
cost
sharing
for
like
five
units
or
fewer
versus
five
units
or
more
do
you
have
a
sense
of
what
percentage
of
the
units
that
would
be
affected
by
that,
because
I
do
understand
that
we
do
have
most.
It
is
most
of
our
landlords
are
small
landlords,
but
most
of
our
units
are
in
large
complexes.
So
I
I'm
kind
of
curious
in
how
much.
D
D
D
D
B
While
you
are
getting
that,
I
do
also
have
another
question
sure
and
I
don't
be
covered
in
other
policy
questions.
But
is
it
possible
to
also
solicit
impact
input
from
the
council
regarding
our
capital
improvement
process
because
they're
they're,
the
ones
making
the
codes
well.
D
We
they
were
responsible
for
their
drafting
of
the
capital
improvement
petition
process
with
measure
d,
and
we
did
follow
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
that
were
initially
in
measure
d.
We
can
definitely
go
back
to
them
if
you'd
like,
but
they
did
have
quite
an
extensive
process
for
that
already.
Okay,.
D
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
this,
if
I
can't
find
it
for
you
right
now,
emily
I
will.
I
will
send
it
to
you
all.
I
sent
it
out
last
week
so.
B
Does
anyone
else
have
a
input
on
this
policy
question.
D
And
again,
this
specific
question
is
for
the
qualifications
specifically,
so
those
those
kind
of
big
big
buckets
that
we
that
we
covered
at
the
beginning.
E
One
thing-
and
I
don't
know
if
it
fits
in
this
policy
question
or
not,
but
I
think
we
mentioned
that
the
improvement
has
to
have
a
useful
life
of
at
least
one
year,
and
I
would
be
interested
why
we're
setting
the
useful
life
as
one
year
our
memorization
calendar,
starts
with
a
five-year
amortization.
I
think
that
was
the
shortest
amortization
I
saw
so
shouldn't.
We
have
a
five-year
useful
life
if
we're
amateurizing
over
five
years,
because
that's
literally
how
you
do
it,
I
mean
to
be
fair.
D
That
is
one
of
these
specific
qualifications
that
came
from
the
the
measure
d,
and,
if
you,
this
is
exactly
why
we're
looking
at
bringing
this
back
to
you
and
asking
the
policy
questions,
we
can
definitely
amend
that
to
be
more
than
five
years
karen.
Is
there
any
reason
why
that
could
not
be
amended.
O
No,
I
mean
you
know
right
now,
everything
is
up
for
grabs,
so
I
you
know
that
was
a
good
point
and
I
certainly
noted
that
myself.
I
I
think
we
would
want
to
think
about
it.
Is
there
something
that
could
come
up
that
would
have
a
a
shorter
life
term,
the
main
point
of
having
it
be
a
useful
life
of
an
ecu?
E
E
J
And
I
mean
to
to
second
that
I
guess
I
had
the
same
initial
thought,
but
also
to
to
karen's
point
about
you
know
forward
compatibility.
J
If
you
told
me
a
water
collection
buckets
only
last
for
three
years
I
mean
you
know,
I
think
it's
worth
the
cause,
but
I
I
guess
maybe
the
ask
would
be
if
we
could
get
him
work
flesh
out
the
list
a
little
bit
of
of
what
the
real
examples
are,
and
if
we
look
at
that
list,
then,
and
of
you
know
what
has
been
what's
been
claimed
in
other
jurisdictions.
A
A
D
So
the
second
question
is
in
reference
to
the
actual
authorized
expenses
and
again
I'll
just
pull
that
back
up
and
that
this
kind
of
goes
into
your
your
questions.
So
we
have
these
categories
here
that
are
broader,
and
then
this
provides.
You
know
more
detail
on
those
with
the
amortization
schedules
themselves
and
again
these
come
from
common
practices
from
from
the
irs
and
from
the
other
jurisdictions.
D
So
you'll
see
here
very
similarly,
all
of
the
other
jurisdictions
have
that
kind
of
bigger
category
bucket
that
we're
looking
at.
So
again,
we
have
the
qualifications
which
are
the
really
the
really
big
buckets,
and
then
we
have
the
categories
which
tighten
those
buckets,
and
then
we
have
the
very
refined
buckets
which
go
into
the
actual
amortization
schedule,
and
so
just
like
what
we're
proposing,
alameda
and
berkeley
have
something
very
similar
and
then,
when
you
start
going
into
the
more
detailed
ones
we
have.
D
You
know
we're
very
closely
in
line
and
aligned
with
san
jose's,
because
they're
those
major
improvements
that
we're
looking
at
and
we
did
go
and
do
an
extensive
review
of
the
amortization
schedules
that
were
available
and
some
jurisdictions
do
different
things
for
amortization.
So,
for
example,
al
nida
has
a
15
year
amortization
period.
It's
set
at
15
years.
That's
what
it
is
berkeley's
is
a
little
complicated.
D
D
So
hopefully
that
provides
a
little
bit
more
information
on
on
why
we
and
the
analyst
the
analysis
that
we've
performed-
and
this
is
again
analysis
that
has
been
performed
by
rhc
staff
for
city
council,
for
multiple
processes.
D
So
we've
looked
at
this
for
the
soft
story,
retrofit
process
and
received
feedback
from
counsel
for
for
the
capital,
improvement
petition
process
from
the
soft
story,
retrofit
process
and
then
again
through
the
measure
d
process,
where
staff
brought
this
to
council
provided
input.
The
rhc
provided
input
to
council
on
what
the
rhc
would
like
to
see
out
of
a
capital
improvement
petition
process.
D
They
received
all
of
that
put
that
into
measure
d
and
now
we've
refined
it
further
to
fit
within
the
csfra
and
because
there
are
now
other
jurisdictions
that
have
capital
improvement,
petition
processes,
we've
re-examined
it
again
to
make
sure
that
we
were
capturing
everything
that
we
possibly
could
and
also
after
we
received
the
community
input
from
the
community
meetings.
We
refined
the
recommendations
again
so
hopefully
that
explains
kind
of
where
we.
D
Got
the
the
analysis
where
the
analysis
came
from
and
let
me
go
ahead
and
pull
the
powerpoint
back
up.
D
J
Maybe
one
question
would
be
you
know,
I
could
see
someone
getting
a
full
sprinkler
system
for
the
building,
and
that
includes
a
lot
of
different
line
items
and
the
vendor,
you
know,
has
one
invoice
you
know,
would
would
would
it
go
line
by
line
to
look
at
you
know
each
individual
piece
and
with
that,
how
would
what
should
a
landlord
be
thinking
about
before
they
make
those
improvements
yeah?
Would
they
be?
Each
line
item
would
be
evaluated
individually.
D
I
that
would
depend
on
the
the
process
that
we
ended
up
implementing,
but
we've
seen
for
large-scale
improvements
like
that
something
like
a
fire
fire
suppression
system
that
is
actually
on
the
approve
the
authorized
expenses
and
would
go
into
that
particular
bucket
for
amortization
periods
and
for
the
the
expense
would
then
be
divided,
I'm
assuming
at
the
full
the
full
cost
of
the
expense
just
like
they're
handled
in
capital
improvement,
the
capital
improvement
worksheet
for
the
current
petition
process.
D
I
I
also
may
want
to
add
matt.
If
you
mean
the
one
landlord.
I
J
Just
right,
because
when
it
comes
to
categories
and
requirements,
you
know
I'm
not
if
we
have
a
light
item
for
a
particular
category
and
they
replace
all
of
the
fire
like
the
fire
alarms
right,
which
is
like,
like
maybe
that's,
more
maintenance,
but
it's
part
of
the
full
fire
suppression
system.
J
I
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
that
that
we
would
do
to
necessarily
right
into
the
regs
to
provide
guidance
on
that
and
maybe
maybe
speak
more
about
the
the
plans
for
kind
of
pre-clearance
versus
like
asking
for
you
know,
coming
in
with
the
receipts
right
and
and
going
through
the
petition
at
that
point,
post
versus
versus
pre-clearance
like
what
would
the
process?
How
would
the
process
differ?
There.
D
So
the
give
me
one
second
matt,
so
I
can
bring
this
up
correctly
for.
D
J
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
instrument
our
regs
to
take
care
of
all
the
different.
J
D
Oh
go
ahead,
so
in
terms
of
fire
suppression,
I
can
give
you
a
little
bit
of
insight
into
that
there.
They
are
very
different
things
in
in
fire
code.
The
fire
alarm
system
is
different
from
a
fire,
sprinkler
and
retardant
system
and
understand
the
understanding
that
the
hearing
officers
have
vast
knowledge
and
experience
with
these
type
of
petitions.
D
They
would
bring
that
into
into
the
the
review
of
the
the
petition
and
again,
if
they,
if
they
didn't,
have
experience
with
it,
they
they
do
go
out
and
seek
that
information
to
make
sure
that
they're
providing
the
the
best
outcome
for
for
the
petitioner
under
the
law,
as
required
under
the
law,
so
that
hopefully
provides
some
clarification
there,
just
in
kind
of
those
different
differentiations
and
for
something
like
a
fire
alarm
system.
If
you
did
want
more
clarity
in
the
authorized
expense
list,
we
could
specifically
spell
out.
D
You
know
what
the
difference
is
between
a
fire
alarm
system
and
a
fire
suppression
system,
a
fire
sprinkler
system
for
the
question
kind
of
a
process.
Question
landlords
would
be
able
to
petition
for
approval
of
the
capital
improvement
that
they
have
not
installed.
Yet,
but
they
would
have
to
wait
for
the
increase
to
be
applicable
until
after
they've
expended
the
expense,
so
they
have
to
come
back
to
us
with
those
receipts.
D
So
they
could.
You
know
if
they
were
wanting
to
protect
their.
You
know
their
financial,
their
finances.
They
can.
We,
we
are
suggesting
that
they're
able
to
come
to
us
first
get
the
expense
authorized
and
then
come
back
once
they've
done.
The
improvement
for
the
the
decision
in
the
for
the
petition.
D
The
hearing
officer
would
essentially
make
the
decision
and
say
that
you
know
I
mean
I'm
going
off
of
the
background
knowledge
that
I
have
from
other
jurisdictions,
but
they
would
essentially
say
this.
This
expense
is
approved
and
authorized,
and
this
is
how
the
cost
recovery
will
happen
once
this
expense
is
made.
The
this
is
the
decision,
so
they
would
already
have
the
decision
for
them,
but
it
would
be
contingent
upon
them
completing
the
actual
improvement
itself
and
providing
the
receipts
as
as
required
under
the
regulations.
O
J
Got
it
thank
you,
so
staff
would
kind
of
collate
the
information
give
initial
response
on
like
the
requirements
for
pre-clearance,
then,
if,
when
they
have
enough
evidence,
take
that
to
the
hearing
officer
hearing
officer
makes
that
kind
of
pre-clearance
decision
they
go.
Do
the
repair
come
back
with
the
final
amount
and
then
it's
that
yeah?
Then
it's.
I
Yeah
but
the
hearing
officer
will
be
making
that
decision,
not
the
staff
and
usually,
if
you
want
a
pre-approved
capital
improvement,
you
bring
the
cost
calculations
like
and
how
do
you
call
that
and.
E
E
Patricia
while
we're
on
that
screen,
I'm
sorry
sorry,
I
asked
about
it
as
you
move
it.
We've
referenced
the
evidence
of
loan
and
the
interest
rate.
Are
we
proposing
that
the
interest
on
the
loan
could
be
passed
through
as
well
on
the
petition
process,
or
is
that
more
just
informational
documentation.
D
We
do
currently
for
capital
improvements
in
the
mnoi
petition
allow
for
for
that,
okay,
perfect!
Thank
you.
D
J
Just
question
now
that
we
have
the
rental,
the
registration
database
to
be
in
compliance,
you,
the
the,
I
think
we
still
include
it,
but
the
rent,
roll
and
move-in
dates
would
already
be
part
of
that.
Just
so,
it's
not
clear
right.
D
So
one
thing
that
we
do
not
collect
is
tenant
name
on
in
the
petition
in
the
in
the
database,
so
the
rent
roll
would
include
their
name.
The
unit
number,
the
initial
move-in
date,
basic
basic
tenant
information,
okay,.
J
All
right
that
we
may
just
want
to
clarify
that.
I
guess,
because
when
I
hear
or
rental
I
just
think
of
the
actual
like
unit
numbers
and
rent,
like
you
said,
with
no
personal
identifiable
information.
D
So
for
petitions
the
petitions
do
have
to
be
served
and
the
tenants
do
have
to
be
notified
so
that
they
can
respond
if
they
would
like
to
so.
This
also
just
like
with
our
current
petition
process,
would
include
their
contact
information.
D
B
In
terms
of
the
documentation
with
the
with
the
registry,
how
much
of
that
can
can
a
landlord
use
to
help
them
with
this
process?.
B
D
We
are,
we
are
working
on
the
mnoi
petition
process.
Now,
I'm
not
sure
when
we'll
have
that
online,
but
we
do
have
the
tenant
petitions
up
for
something
like
this,
which
is
a
much
abbreviated
process
compared
to
the
mnoi
petition.
We
would,
you
know,
be
more
easily
able
to
transition
into
having
this
available
online
for
property
owners.
They
can't
give
you
an
estimate
of
one
because
we
actually
have
to
build
the
paper
processes
first,
but
these
are.
D
These
are
mostly
things
that,
in
terms
of
documentation
that
a
property
owner
would
have
to
provide
that
are
not
routine
inputs
into
the
database
for
the
property
owner.
D
E
For
the
business
license,
I'm
assuming
that's
an
actual
business
license
and
not
a
reference
to
the
permit.
E
L
D
The
business
license
business
license
are
needed
in
mountain
view,
if
you
own
a
property
with
five
or
more
units,
so
you're,
absolutely
right
permits
are
outside
of
that.
Yes,
and
also
good,
yes
and
necessary.
J
J
Okay,
so
the
list
that
that
internal,
like
energy,
efficient
appliances
or
something
that
would
that's
not
included
in
this
in
this
list,
that
we
have.
D
Yeah,
there's
there's
two
lists
here:
there's
the
one
for
capital,
improvement,
petitions
and
there's
the
one
for
the
mnoi
petitions,
so
mnoy
petitions
have
appliances
and
these
big
major
ones
that
we're
specifically
looking
at
for
the
capital
improvement
petitions
would
would
require
permits,
except
for
maybe
the
fumigation,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
fumigation
works.
So
don't
don't
quote
me
on
that
committee
member?
D
J
Know
yeah
and
that's
sorry,
I'm
trying
to
pull
out
examples
on
the
fly,
but
like
again,
fumigation
is
one
that
I
just
saw
that
I
don't
know
how
it
I
don't
know
if
it
requires
a
permit.
It.
J
We
could
just
add
that
language
I
think,
that'd
be
that
that
would
be
good.
Definitely
if
it's
something
that
requires
a
permit
like
the
same
thing
for
landscaping
like
you
know,
I
think
often
that
doesn't.
D
Good
point
we
can
definitely
add
for
the
permits,
just
like
we
have
for
business
licenses
as
applicable
or,
if
applicable,
to
the
project
yeah.
Thank
you.
D
You
know
I
I'm
only
thinking
back
to
I
I
grew
up
here
and
with
you
know,
the
89
earthquake.
There
were
significant
issues
with
masonry
and
fireplaces
specifically
in
chimneys.
Definitely
that
ran
the
length
of
the
chimney
and
through
the
interior
of
the
apartment
of
the
of
the
fireplace.
So
that's
a
that's
a
technical
question
that
we
can
look
into
as
well.
D
D
D
D
Okay,
so
here's
the
question
about
the
share
of
costs:
does
the
rhc
have
any
input
into
the
proposed
share
of
costs
and
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
that
slide
and
bring
this
up
again?
I
can
go
into
some
more
detail
with
the
pure
jurisdictions
and
give
you
some
more
insight
into
what
they're
doing
and
how
they're
doing
it
or
you
know
we
can.
D
J
I
guess
just
one
question
would
be:
is
it?
Is
it
just
these
three
jurisdictions
that
have
something
other
than
a
hundred
percent
or
how
do
all
the
jurisdictions.
D
No
they're
not.
D
They
get
a
little
complicated
with
some
of
the
other
ones,
but
you
can
think
of
it
in
the
following
ways.
Hayward
is
50,
with
a
total
annual
increase
that
cannot
exceed
10
percent
alameda
has
a
kind
of
complicated
cost
recovery
standard.
That
is
this
equation,
plus
their
amortization
period.
D
And
excuse
me,
if
you
can
hear
my
jobs,
I
apologize
and
there
is
caps
in
that
berkeley
has
a
out
of
pocket
cost
plus
self
labor
times
the
calculation
rate
and
the
calculation
rate
is
like
eight
eight
times
the
percent
of
something
number
of
units
it
gets
very
complicated,
very
fast.
D
I
thought
I
had
that
broken
down
here
for
you,
but
I
think
I
I
I
think
I
still
oversimplified
it.
Let
me
see
if
I
have
that
in
my
memo.
My
other
memo
los
angeles,
has
again
those
two
pers,
those
two
different
types
of
petitions,
because
they
have
kind
of
two
different
categories
of
capital
improvements.
D
There
is
in
san
francisco
the
split
between
the
size
of
the
unit
and
that
one
is
a
hundred
percent
of
costs
for
properties
with
five
to
ten
units.
Five
to
one
to
five
units
excuse
me:
tenants
can
apply
for
a
hardship
with
a
maximum
amount
of
thirty
dollars
per
year
or
five
percent
of
the
tenants
base
rent
for
six
or
more
units.
D
It's
fifty
percent
of
the
actual
costs
tenants
can
apply
for
a
hardship
maximum
amount
of
thirty
dollars
per
year
or
ten
percent
of
the
tenants
based
rent
or
one
hundred
percent
of
the
actual
costs.
But
tenants
can
apply
for
a
hardship
with
a
maximum
amount
of
five
percent
of
tenants
based
rent
with
a
limit
of
15
percent
of
tenants
based,
rent
and
again
starts
to
get
complicated
fast
and
then
san
jose
is
capped
at
three
percent
of
monthly
rent.
D
At
the
time
of
filing,
it's
not
considered
a
rent
increase
and
does
not
increase
with
rent
increases,
so
they
all
for
the
most
part,
do
not
do
100
allocation
of
cost
sharing.
They
all
cost
truly
cost
share.
Mostly
because,
like
I
said
earlier,
the
capital
improvements
benefit
the
the
property
owner
as
well,
because
their
actual
improvements
to
their
property.
So
they
increase
the
property's
value.
E
One
thing
I
was
interested
in
was
the
third
option
regarding
doing
as
a
different
calc
for
small
properties
than
larger
properties.
I
think
cost
sharing.
You
know.
If
we're
going
to
talk,
cost
sharing,
we
should
be
literally
sharing
costs.
So
probably
no
one
should
have
a
hundred
percent,
but
I
could
see
doing
like
an
80
cost
recovery
for
the
small
landlords
and
a
50
50
for
the
larger
being
something
that
I
would
be
interested
in.
D
And
with
that,
100
cost
recovery
for
the
smaller,
so
that
one
is,
is
that
split
depending
on
the
size
of
complex
is
from
san
francisco,
and
they
do
have
those
other
caveats
in
place
that
protect
the
amount
of
rent
that
can
be
increased
over
over
the
course
of
a
year,
and
we
do
have
a
10.
You
know
cap
anyway,
with
the
csfra,
but
the
the
the
thirty
dollars
or
five
percent
of
rent
is
included
in
that
one.
For,
for
the
tenants
too,.
E
D
Yeah
they
do
that,
so
it's
thirty
dollars
per
per
month
per
year
and
per
unit,
and
then
that's
extended.
You
know
again,
people
can
repetition.
It
can
come
back
to
the
city
and
say
this.
This
won't
cover
the
cost
of
the
improvement
at
100
with
this
amortization
schedule.
So
they
extend
the
amortization
schedule
for
to
to
make
sure
that
the
improvement
is
captured
in
full
even
with
that
cap,
but.
D
Yeah
because
it's
assumed
that
vacancy
control
that
people
are
increasing
their
rents
to
cover
the
cost
of.
J
J
I
mean
it's
tough
to
process
all
the
different
options
that
then
permutations
that
some
of
the
jurisdictions
have,
but
yeah
it'd
be
interesting
yeah.
I
don't
necessarily
think
that,
like
just
hayward
or
just
oakland,
you
know
represent
like
if
we
try
to
hit
the
middle
between
those
right
I'd
rather
look
at
across
all
the
jurisdictions
and
see
you
know
what
we,
what
staff
thinks
is
conservative
versus
you
know
more
on
the
aggressive
side.
B
I
prefer
a
more
simplified
process,
so
I'd
rather
not
force
numbers
to
do
an
excessive
amount
of
weird
math
for
for
their
for
their
thing,
I
do
like
the
idea
of
a
split
we
can
we
can
debate
on
what
it
is
a
a
healthy
split
between
and
and
who
gets
that
split?
I
also
do
like
I.
I
know
that
the
csfra
already
limits
to
the
the
ten
percent
for
a
bunch
of
things.
B
I
do
like
the
idea
of
a
three
to
five
percent
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
three
to
five
percent.
That's
not
inclusive
of
the
aga.
We
can.
We
can
debate
that.
I'm
open
to
that.
I
do
like
to
to
at
least
also
have
a
a
cap
that,
like
I,
don't
want
these
capital
improvements
to
be
larger
than
their
their
actual
increase.
B
B
I
can't
imagine
like
any
actual
ability
of
that
happening,
but
I
would
like
to
have
at
least
some
barriers
there
and
as
for
the
split,
I
think
we
can
probably
I
do
like
the
idea
of
the
split
size
depending
on
complex,
because,
like
I
mentioned
before
most
mountain
view,
landlords
are
small
landlords.
B
Most
tenants
are
tenants
of
large
landlords
and
it's
a
way
that
you
can
still
help
majority
of
the
landlords
without
harming
majority
of
the
tenants,
in
order
to
having
that
split,
because
some
complexes,
if
they
have
500
units,
there's
a
lot
of
costs
that
they
can
eat
up
overall
and
over
time
and
those
usually,
those
are
the
kinds
of
units
that
do
actually
have
higher
vacancy
turns
up
turnovers
anyway,
as
well
as
for
the
actual
numbers.
B
D
I
think
that
I
think
that
I
mean
you
know
what
the
discretion
of
the
committee,
based
on
my
research
and
the
the
makeup
of
the
the
properties
in
mountain
view,
staff
would
consider
recommending
a
split
that
depends
on
the
size
of
the
complex,
similar
to
what
you
see
here
and
and
with
refinement.
That
includes
a
cap
of
some
sort
to
protect
tenants
in
the
confines
within
the
confines
of
the
law.
J
I'll,
just
plus
one
to
what
emily
is
saying
about
simplicity,
I
definitely
wouldn't
want
you
to
try
to
hit
the
middle
and
have
something
that's
very
complex
but
more
like
if
you
were
to
run
the
numbers,
let's
say
between
option
one
and
two
for
the
caps
right.
So
a
ten
percent
cap
overall,
that's
inclusive
of
aga.
If
you
say
the
average
ada
is
3.4,
you
know,
then
the
the
other
option-
that's
not
inclusive,
of
aga
they
kind
of
they
get
close
right.
J
So
if
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
ran
the
numbers
with
some
inputs
there
and
then
came
out
with
a
very
simple
I'm
leaning
towards
just
the
ten
percent
cap,
since
we
kind
of
already
have
that
bank
to
increase
cap
and.
D
The
other
question
that
we
would
have,
I
guess
for
legal,
is
how
ab-1482
could
impact
something
like
this.
Karen,
have
you
seen
anything
like
that.
O
O
D
Okay,
so
we
can
also,
should
we
look
at
both
of
those
options.
Then
committee,
members
of
of
what
the
10,
what
the
difference
between
a
10
cap,
inclusive
of
the
aga
and
the
bank
inc
bank
increases,
would
look
like
in
a
three
to
five
percent
of
rent,
not
inclusive
of
the
aga
and
bank
increases
and
bring
that
back
to
you.
D
I
can
also
provide
an
estimation
of
you
know.
Should
we
have
let's
say
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
capital
improvement
for
something
like
a
roof.
What
that
would
look
like
costs
sharing
wise?
We
can
bring
back
an
example
of
what
these
pro,
what
staff's
proposed
recommendations
for
cost
sharing
and
caps
would
look
like,
given
an
actual
example
or
two
of
capital
improvements
with
real
costs.
A
C
E
Yeah,
could
we
do
like
a
small
medium
enlarge
like
a
fire
sprinkler,
a
full
re-roof
and
like
a
siding
or
stucco
project,
so
we
kind
of
have
the
three
different
types
of
expenses.
You
could
reasonably
expect
to
see
on
a
regular
basis,
because
your
roof
is
going
to
be
way
more
expensive
than
your
stucco.
And
then
your
sprinkler
system
is
going
to
depend
on
your
square
footage.
E
Well,
no,
no
it'll
end
up
agnostic
because
you're
doing
it
per
unit
per
month,
so
the
amortization
will
be
calculated
in
there.
So
once
it's
re
once
it's
calculated,
it's
agnostic
to
memorization
and
it'll
speak
really
to
the
pure
numbers
of
the
different
size
projects,
because
the
memorization
will
get
cut
through.
D
You
can
definitely
bring
back
examples
of
what
the
cost
sharing
would
look
like
among
tenants
and
landlords
or
what
the
increases
for
tenants
you
know
would
look
like
on
in
general
for
three
different
sizes
of
projects
awesome.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
patricia
a
committee
member
groenworld
I
I
did
want.
I
was
curious
to
see
what,
in
terms
of
the
the
split
of
five
or
fewer
units,
and
what
kind
of
split
do
you
think
would
be,
at
least
as
a
starting
point
for
staff
as
well.
J
Yeah,
I'm
supportive
of
again.
I
want
to
see
what
what
kind
of
staff
thinks
is
is
a
fair
split,
unlike
the
percentage
right
so
100
75
50,
but
I
am
supportive
of
of
giving
high
a
higher
rate
to
you
know
smaller
landlords.
We
did.
We
have
heard
a
lot
from
landlords
coming
in.
We
have
a
fourplex
right
who,
if
you
have
three
long-term
tenants,
something
like
a
new
roof
can
can
really
be
a
hardship
right
so
yeah.
J
That's
I
lean
towards
towards
that,
and
even
like
a
third
tier
right,
I
think
the
tier
drop-off
is
pretty
significant
right,
like
we
have
buildings
that
I'm
not
sure
what
the
highest
number
of
units
is,
that
a
complex
has
in
mountain
view,
but
you
know,
I
think
it's
in
the
hundreds,
so
you're
going
between
five
and
everything
else,
so
I
I'd
be
smart
kind
of.
If
there
is
a
third
tier,
you
know
having
it
be
a
step
down.
J
D
We
can
definitely
take
a
look
at
that.
We
have
those
breakdowns
for
the
soft
story,
retrofit
guidelines
that
were
drafted
a
few
years
ago,
so
I
can
take
a
look
at
kind
of
what
the
tiers
were
there
and
and
give
an
option
that
that
takes
into
consideration
a
little
less
of
a
significant
drop
off.
D
E
D
That's
very
helpful,
so
staff
will
bring
back
a
recommended
split
to
the
committee
with
actual
you
know,
examples
and
we'll
bring
back
that
with
cap
options
and
consider
a
less
drastic,
tiered
cut
off
for
different
cost
sharing
options
and
then
the
policy
question
six
is
if
there
are
any
input
regarding
the
amortization
periods,
the
amortization
schedule
and
sunset
periods.
E
E
You
can
no
longer
have
the
increase,
and
I
think
we
should
say
that,
because
if
somebody
does
the
petition,
they
get
the
new
roof
and
then
they
decide
they
want
to
put
on
some
other
type
of
roof
like
a
solar
panel
roof
or
something
that
wouldn't
be
covered.
That
would
be
considered
an
over
improvement.
I
don't
think
they
should
be
charging
for
the
old
old
new
roof.
D
Or
if
the,
if
the
item
so
basically,
if
the
item
is
removed
or
no
longer
in
existence
that
the
cost
goes
away,
cost
goes
away.
D
J
Have
a
question
for
staff:
what
was
that?
Was
there
an
item
that
had
a
really
large
variance
between
the
jurisdictions
that
you
feel
like?
We
should
make
a
call,
or
it
was
difficult
for
you
to
you,
know
some
jurisdiction
had
30
years,
another
had
15
and
yeah
that
we
should
weigh
in
on.
D
N
D
Okay,
so
then
the
final
question
for
this
section
is,
if
you
request
us
to
draft
regulations
or
if
you
would
like
us
to
come
back
with
some
of
those
more
fleshed
out
policy
recommendations
to
you
before
we
draft.
D
B
So
I
I
am
looking
to
my
committee
members
is
the
feedback
we
are
giving
to
staff
now.
Do
you
feel
that's
sufficient
enough
to
have
draft
regulations
or
do
we
need
to
come
back
to
see
for
more
feedback
before
we
send
them
off
to
draft
regulations?
I
guess
that's.
That's.
I
think.
That's
what
they're
asking
us
now.
E
I
think,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
do
some
modeling
of
what
the
numbers
would
look
like,
it
might
be
a
better
use
of
staff's
time
to
not
draft
the
regulations
first,
because
I
think
that
modeling
may
give
people
a
more
concrete
view
of
what
we're
talking
about
in
a
way
that
could
sway
how
they
feel
about
the
commentary
they've
given
tonight.
So
that
would
be
my
thought
just
because
I
think
once
we
see
hard
numbers,
people
will
have
thoughts.
N
Yeah,
I
I
agree
with
what
nicole
is
saying
and
also
I
think
that
made
a
good
point
that
potentially
there
could
be.
You
know
even
a
third
tier
in
terms
of
the
cost
sharing,
or
maybe
we
pinpoint
just
a
certain
demographic,
maybe
just
the
top.
You
know
five
percent
landlords,
for
example,
and
treat
them
differently
than
perhaps
the
smallest
five
percent
landlord.
So
I
think,
there's
still
a
little
more
to
kind
of
let's
settle
in
and
percolate
before.
N
We
have
anyone
take
on
the
pretty
time-consuming
task
of
putting
regs
together,
which
might
potentially
get
displaced
after
we've
had
a
little
time
to
think
this.
Over
more.
B
D
Thank
you
for
reminding
me
so
staff
did
not
want
to
do
churny
work
and
prepare
forms
already,
but
we
did
pull
the
forms
for
from
san
jose.
So
you
can
get
a
general
idea
of
of
the
simplicity
of
capital
improvement
petitions.
So
ours
wouldn't
necessarily
look
like
this.
Obviously
it
would
look
more
like
our
forms
but
they're
relatively
short.
They
provide
rental
property
information,
the
landlord
manager,
information,
the
reason
why
the
petition
is
happening
and
then
unit
information
and
then
there's
the
actual
capital
improvement
portion.
So
this
goes
through
all
of
the
details.
D
We
pro
we
actually
provide
a
much
more
extensive,
supportive,
workbook
and
form
which-
and
they
do
as
well
for
their
capital
improvement
petitions,
but
it
is
not
currently
available
online
and
they
switched
over
some
stuff
and
it's
a
I
can't
seem
to
find
it
anywhere,
but
I
know
it
exists,
so
they
have
this
where
you
describe
your
project
and
then
they
have
the
costs,
the
units
benefiting
from
it
the
date
the
project
was
completed
and
the
permit
numbers,
and
then
they
go
over
the
actual
details.
D
D
We
are
working
on
that
right
now
for
an
mnoi
petition,
so
it
would
be
very
easy
to
create
for
the
capital,
improvement
ones
based
on
that
the
costs
copies
and
invoices
and
then
something
very
similar
to
this,
a
simple
amortization
period
with
very
basic
instructions.
D
So,
as
you
can
see
it's
it's
a
it's
a
lot
less
of
a
bulk
petition
process
than
what
we
currently
have
and
as
far
as
outreach
and
information
to
property
owners,
we
would
do,
of
course,
extensive
outreach
to
both
property
owners
and
tenants
so
that
everyone
can
be
informed
that
this
process
exists.
Now.
F
J
Related
question
or
idea,
but
you
know
I
know
we
plan
on
eventually
moving
the
full
mli
petition
to
to
the
software
right
there
to
online
submission,
and
I
wonder
if,
if
we
were,
you
know
if
we
were
to
approve,
you
know
this
process,
and
this
is
a
much
simpler
form
like.
Is
there
a
world
where
we
first
develop
this
as
something
that
can
be
submitted
online
and
then
develop
the
full
mnoi,
which
I
know
is
much
more
complex?
That.
D
Is
how
we
would
that
is
how
I
would
recommend
doing
it
exactly
committee
member,
we
we
have
the
the
infrastructure
built
for
the
tenant
petitions,
which
are
much
more
similar
in
terms
of
number
of
pages
and
all
the
things
that
need
to
be
supplied
for
the
petition
to
this,
and
those
are
already
up
and
running
on
the
database
for
tenants.
D
So
we
can
use
a
lot
of
the
same
infrastructure
that
we've
built
internally
on
the
back
end
for
this
process
in
the
system
going
forward,
we
would
still
have
to
prepare
and
create
all
of
the
paper
processes.
First,
a
very
large
percentage
of
our
smaller
properties
are
owned
by
people
that
are
often
more
comfortable
with
paper-based
forms.
So
we
would
definitely
want
to
get
those
processes
in
place
first
and
then
you
know
at
the
same
time
as
we're
kind
of
working
through
that
be
working
with
our
third-party
vendor.
D
Who
does
the
the
building
of
the
the
the
ability
to
apply
for
our
petitions
online
too?
So
I
foresee
that
that
is
totally
completely
doable.
Yeah.
J
Great
and
sorry,
one
more
follow-up
question
the
more
you
keep
springing
up
questions
for
me,
but
a
lot
of
this
was
spun
up
when
council
was
considering.
You
know
seismic
retrofit
and
when
now
I
think
about
you
know
how
quickly
we
would
want
to
potentially
draft
regulations
and
have
systems
in
place.
Do
we
have
what's
the
latest
timing?
You
know
from
council's
perspective
on
like
the
earliest
that
they
might
implement
something
like
that.
B
I
What
I've
heard
is
that
they
were
gonna,
do
a
two-year
research
or
inventory
of
what
is
actually
out
there,
and
that
has
not
even
started
yet
so.
D
And
from
from
a
staff
perspective,
you
know
that
is
this.
This
essentially
would
be
the
kind
of,
as
just
as
we
were
talking
about
with
the
environmental
components
of
this
process
and
then
like
kind
of
front
loading
front
building
for
those
potential
improvements.
Steph
is
hoping
that
we
can
kind
of
get
these
petitions
in
place.
Have
petitions
that
have
been
processed
know
how
the
process
works?
Have
the
online
portal
functional
and
working
well
before
something
like
soft
story?
D
Retrofits
come
to
us,
because
if
we
had
to
do
this
on
the
fly
for
an
enormous
amount
of
properties,
of
which
there
are
quite
a
few,
it
would
be
very,
very
challenging
for
implementation
purposes,
and
we
do
have,
as
people
have
mentioned
quite
a
few
small
property
owners
who
would
would
benefit
and
whose
tenants
would
benefit
from
this
process
as
well
again
going
back
to
council
goals.
One
of
their
main
goals
is
preservation
of
affordable
housing
and
preventing
displacement
from
properties
that
are
at
the
end
of
their
useful
life.
D
Okay,
so
are
there
any
other
questions
or
policy
feedback
that
the
committee
would
like
to
share
regarding
this
process.
E
F
A
D
So
speaking
of
we're
gonna
go
through
this
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
the
other
proposed
policy.
D
The
committee
requested
that
staff
look
at
a
potential
for
a
joint
petition
between
property
owners
and
tenants
for
some
of
the
kind
of
certain
situations
that
would
normally
or
otherwise
be
easily
resolved
and
solved
in
unregulated
markets,
and
for
that
we
are
suggesting
a
joint
petition
be
considered,
which
would
allow
tenants
and
landlords
to
file
a
joint
petition
for
an
increase
of
rent
or
allow
for
a
one-time
payment
from
tenant
to
landlord
in
order
to
cover
or
partially
cover
increased
costs
and
defined
categories.
D
So
we'll
go
over
the
petition
process.
The
categories
newer,
additional
housing
services.
These
are
the
categories
and
we'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
depth
of
the
recommended
policy
options.
Additional
occupants
newer,
additional
pets
that
are
not
included
in
the
lease
and
additional
parking
spaces.
D
That
would
be
provided
and
filed
with
the
city
by
the
tenant
that
would
need
to
be
signed
by
the
landlord
for
the
approval
of
additional
services
and
additional
documents
beyond
the
lease
may
be
required
depending
on
the
category.
So
let's
say
again,
it
was
some
sort
of
expense
or
new
or
improved
housing
service.
The
property
owner
and
the
tenant
would
have
to
provide
the
property
owner
would
have
to
provide
proof
that
that
expense
occurred,
and
once
that
petition
is
accepted
by
the
rhc.
D
So
basically,
once
it's
filed
with
staff
and
staff
says
hey,
this
looks
complete.
Both
parties
would
be
presented,
a
notice
and
a
hearing
officer
would
be
assigned
to
review
the
petition
and
the
associated
documentation
and
issue
a
decision
that
allow
that
outlines
the
allowed
increase
or
one-time
payment,
and
the
decision
would
have
an
effect
the
same
as
just
the
same
as
other
administrative
decisions
have
and
would
establish,
rent
or
the
the
payment
amount,
and
it
would
only
be
appealable
if
the
hearing
officer's
decision
deviated
in
any
way
from
the
request
and
the
petition.
D
So
that's
the
general
outline
it's
pretty
much
fully
administrative
because
it
is
an
petition.
That's
agreed
to
buy
the
by
the
landlord
and
brought
to
the
landlord
by
the
tenant.
So
the
categories
would
include
newer,
additional
housing
services.
D
This
could
be
improvements
or
modifications,
as
requested
by
the
tenant
and
or
other
housing
services,
as
requested
by
the
tenant.
So
one
thing
that
that
we
have
heard
quite
a
lot
of
in
the
from
the
community
is
situations
where
both
the
tenant
and
the
property
where
the
tenant
says
hey.
I
would
really
like
to
have
new
carpet
or
a
new
stove,
or
you
know.
D
A
new
paint
on
my
wall
as
a
new
ceiling
fan
and
the
property
owner
is
not
able
to
increase
the
rent
to
be
able
to
cover
those
expenses,
even
though
the
tenant
wants
to
incur
those
those
costs,
and
so
this
would
provide
a
mechanism
for
those
expenses
to
occur,
and
that
is
lawful
under
the
under
the
csfra.
D
It
could
also
have
in
the
petition
an
additional
or
new
pet
that
is
not
included
in
the
lease
and
additional
parking
spaces.
So
all
of
these
would
be
handled
slightly
differently
for
improvements
or
modifications
or
other
housing
services
is
requested.
We
recommend
that
tenants
and
landlords
have
the
ability
to
select
their
preference
of
two
choices
for
cost
recovery,
both
that
are
capped,
an
amortized,
temporary
monthly
rent
increase
with
an
agreed
upon
cost
share
between
tenant
and
landlord.
D
That
would
be
similar
to
what
we're
proposing
in
the
amortization
schedules
or
a
one-time
payment
that
would
not
exceed
five
percent
of
annual
rent.
So
it's
not
to
be
much
too
much
of
a
cost
burden
to
the
tenant.
D
The
second
category
again,
the
additional
occupant
would
not
would
be
defined
as
not
an
eligible
family
member
under
section
d
of
the
csfra
regulations,
and
not
defined
as
a
roommate
who
would
replace
a
departing
or
former
roommate
as
under
section
e
of
the
regulations,
and
this
increase
would
be
capped
at
five
percent
of
monthly
rent
for
the
additional
pet
not
included
in
the
lease
it
would
be.
D
A
staff
recommends
a
fifty
dollar
per
month,
cap
per
pet
or
what
is
already
agreed
to
in
lease
whichever
is
lower,
and
that
the
increase
be
capped
at
2.5
percent
of
monthly
rent
and
for
the
additional
parking
space.
The
additional
parking
space
is
not
included
in
the
lease
and
the
expenses
capped
at
50
per
month
or
what
is
already
agreed
to
in
the
lease
whichever
is
lower,
and
the
increase
is
capped
at
2.5
percent
of
monthly
rent.
D
So
that's
what's
submitted
again
with
the
with
the
appropriate
documentation,
so
a
lease
and
the
cost
of
expenses,
the
invoices
etc,
and
they
have
some
more
things
that
we
would,
you
know,
want
to
work
into
our
regulations
as
well.
The
regulations
are
very
simple
for
this
process,
but
again
there
are
the
things
that
you
know.
D
So
that
is
a
quick
overview
of
this,
and
I
did
want
to
mention
that
you
know
we
do
have
our
mediation
program
in
mountain
view
and
for
this
particular
process,
where
we
are
recommending
an
actual
petition
process
here,
because,
while
capital
improvement
and
associated
cost
sharing
between
the
property
owner
and
tenant
may
be
voluntarily
agreed
to
in
a
mediation
process
through
our
mediation
program,
a
tenant
could
later
dispute
that
charge
as
an
unlawful
increase
in
rent,
based
on
the
basis
that
the
csfra
prohibits
a
waiver
of
the
tenant's
rights.
D
But
the
joint
petition
process
would
prevent
a
subsequent
a
subsequent
waiver
argument.
So
this
really
fits
into
the
confines
of
the
csf
array
and
you
know
protects
a
situation
where
attendance
agreed
to
this
increase.
For
these
reasons
you
know,
and
then,
if
they
came
back
with
a
petition
against
those
costs,
that
would
you
know
not
be
allowed,
because
the
decision
is
a
final
decision
through
our
process.
D
So
going
over
that
we
do
have
two
policy
questions
here
and
the
first
one
is:
do
you
have
any
input
regarding
the
joint
petition
process.
E
B
I'm
personally
not
a
fan
of
pets,
but
you
know
I
don't
yuck
other
people
young,
so
one
question
I
had,
as
you
talked
about
the
mediation
process,
has
was
like
a
methodology
that
people
would
solve
through.
This
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
connect
the
two
so
like
if
they
do
mediate,
things
like
we
tell
them
years,
hey,
as
you
finish
up.
Please
have
them
fill
this
out.
B
D
So
if
there
was
a
a
referral
to
mediation
that
fell
under
this
process,
the
media,
it
would
probably
be
reversed
where
mediation
would
be
coming.
Referring
them
to
come
to
us
and
and
say,
hey
there's.
This
great
you
guys
are
willing
to
work
together,
so
use
the
joint
petition
process
to
solve
this
quandary
together
instead
of
coming
to
us.
So
we
would
work
with
the
mediation
program
to
just
establish
the
the
channels
just
like
we've
had
we
had
when
we
started
the
csfra
petition
processes
and
and
the
protections
built
into
that.
D
B
J
So
if
if
the
landlord
had
a
no
pets,
lease
and
and
the
tenant,
you
know
wants
to
add
a
pet
later
on
by.
J
I
mean
they
could
still
deny
that
pet
or
deny
an
additional
roommate
if
it
wasn't
in
the
initial
initial
lease
right
like
by
us.
Writing
these
rags.
We're
not
we're
not
saying
that
a
landlord
must
accept
that
for
and
have
a
cap.
D
No,
so
this
is
a
truly
joint
process
where
the
tenant
and
the
landlord
have
agreed
to
this
increase
in
rent
costs
through
the
one-time
payment,
so
the
tenant
and
the
landlord
have
both
said.
This
is
something
that
we
agreed
to
and
the
tenant
and
the
landlord
complete
the
process
together
and
the
landlord
signs,
the
the
joint
petition
and
the
tenant
brings
it
to
us
and
goes
through
the
process.
So
this
truly
is
a
process
where
both
parties
are
are
coming
to
a
mutual
understanding
together
and
executing
the
petition
together.
J
Got
it
and-
and
so
then,
my
my
question
behind
the
question
is
like:
what's
what's
the
effectiveness
of
caps
like
why?
Why
would
we?
Why
would
we
have
caps
in
there
if
it's
something
that
they're
going
to
sort
out
kind
of
on
their
own,
I
saw
you
know
50
or
2.5
and
parking
spaces
can
be.
You
know,
that's
one
thing
where
the
variability
and
cost
of
parking
space
is
pretty
high.
Maybe
just
if
you
provide
more
detail
and
guidance
on
like
why
we're
establishing
caps.
D
Sure
so
other
jurisdictions
establish
caps
as
well.
It
is
still
protective
of
the
tenant
in
a
situation
where
there
is
a
potential
power
imbalance,
and
we,
you
know,
want
to
take
that
into
consideration
for
these
regulations
too,
and
we
do
have
you
know
the
caps
associated
with
the
law
itself,
so
it
takes
into
account
those
as
well.
J
B
I
guess
there's
nothing
so
hypothetically,
I'm
moving
far
ahead
here.
So
hypothetically,
if
we
do
find
that
the
caps
are
are
too
odorous
and-
and
you
see
like
a
pattern,
we
we
can
work
on.
Raising
that
correct.
B
J
Yeah
I
mean
I
guess,
pursuant
to
my
last
conversation,
you
know
I
see
if
I'm
reading
it
correctly
for
additional
parking
spaces,
it
would
be
a
50
or
whatever
the
other
parking
space
is.
J
Whichever
is
lower
that
that
feels
to
me
like
something:
that's
not
that
you'd
get
since
it's
a
joint
and
they're
both
coming
together.
J
I
I
would
revisit,
I
think
those
amounts,
maybe
that'd
be
my
recommendation,
but
otherwise
yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
that
the
joint,
having
per
your
point
about
future,
protecting
against
either
party
coming
back
and
saying
that
it
was
different
what
they
had
agreed
upon.
I
think
that's
a
useful
it's
useful
to
have
the
joint
petition
process,
but
just
the
amounts.
I
think
that
that
I'm
uncomfortable
with.
E
Yeah,
I
I
think
seeing
rigs
would
be
cool.
I
I
to
matt's
point
about
the
amounts.
Maybe
we
I
think
the
caps
are
in
there
to
sure
that
it's
not
a
discussion
of
hey
I'd
like
to
get
a
second
pet
or
I'd
like
to
get
a
second
parking
space,
and
then
the
limit
goes
great.
I'm
going
to
charge
you
700
for
that
privilege
because
I
can't
get
an
increase
higher
than
as
high
as
I
want
without
breaking
the
aga,
so
I'm
going
to
add
it
in
here
to
pad
it.
E
I
think
that's
why
the
caps
are
in
there.
So
maybe,
instead
of
the
caps
being
a
dollar
value,
maybe
we
use
a
percentage
only
and
stick
to
that
two
and
a
half
percent,
and
that's
generally
speaking,
going
to
get
you
over
50
bucks,
which
I
think
is
two
mats
point
fifty
dollars
for
a
parking
space.
I
definitely
do
understand
that's
fairly
low
and
even
a
lot
of
times
for
pet
rent
as
well.
So
I
could
see
maybe
doing
that
as
a
percentage
in
the
in
the
draft.
B
You
can
get
a
cat,
but
other
committee
members
are
you
committee,
member
groomed?
Are
you
okay
with
that
change
of
the
the
cap
to
come
back
with
draft
regulations.
J
Yeah,
that
sounds
that
sounds
great.
I
mean,
I
think
I
think,
just
kind
of
revisiting
those
amounts
and
I
think
yeah
tying
it
to
a
percentage.
Then
we
don't
get
into
inflation
and
what
a
parking
spot
in
that
view
is
worth.
B
Okay,
right.
D
Well,
we
will
come
back
with
regulations
for
this
process
and
take
into
account
the
adding
storage
unit
to
the
parking
space
section
and
percentage
only
for
caps
instead
of
dollar
amounts.
I
Thank
you.
I
do
want
to
recommend
that
we
bring
once
we
bring
the
regulations
bank,
we
bring
them
all
back.
We
don't
do
partial
regulation
so
next
session.
You
want
to
see
some
modeling
and
some
further
feedback
and
then
once
we're
ready
to
put
the
regulations
out.
We'll
add
this
joint
petition
part
to
the
regulations.
If
that's
okay
with
the
rental
housing
committee.
J
I
guess
hockey
is
it's
tough
to
get
a
sense,
for
which
of
these
would
be
most
popular
or
urgent?
Would
you
decouple
it?
Would
you
want
to
decouple
these
two
or
you
know,
is
it?
Does
it
make
more
sense
to
package?
Okay.
I
D
D
Options
we
can
go
to
public
comment.
Karen
do
we
need
to
receive
public
comment
on
a
study
session
item?
Yes,.
B
F
Thank
you,
I
think
I'll
make
up
for
being
one
by
having
lots
of
comments,
and
I
hope,
maybe
you'll.
Let
me
run
over
I'll,
try
to
be
fast,
so
I'm
the
last
item
just
to
go
there,
while
it's
fresh
in
everyone's
mind
with
the
pet
extra
rent
as
an
example,
an
open
question
is:
will
that
be
subject
to
the
aga
or
not
subject
in
a
frozen
amount
forever
and
ever
for
you
to
consider?
It
should
just
be
clear
as
far
as
how
much
to
limit
what
tenants
would
pay.
F
F
So
I
would
just
ask
you
to
consider
that.
To
give
an
example,
my
rent
is
2
200
and
I've
chosen
to
have
a
rather
lower
rent
than
many
people
by
living
next
to
the
very
noisy
train
tracks.
It's
a
good
deal
for
me
to
have
that
extra
discretionary
income
at
10
percent.
That
would
be
220
extra
a
month
that
I
would
have
to
find
in
my
budget.
That
would
not
be
trivial
and
some
people
who
are
putting
kids
through
school
or
have
made
commitments
to
help
fund
other
family
members
to
survive.
F
It's
really
not
trivial
and
it
might
be
a
higher
amount,
so
that
10
is
not
easy
and
come
below
that.
I
think
it's
a
moral
hazard,
if
you
ever
for
any
landlord,
allow
a
hundred
percent
cost
reimbursement
through
this,
because
some
might
not
all,
but
some
might
start
looking
at.
What
can
I
do
rather
than
what
do
I
need
to
do
or
want
to
do
and
just
do
improvement
after
improvement
because
they
don't
pay
for
it.
So
every
capital
improvement
should
have
a
cost
share
with
some.
F
You
know
significant
amount
paid
for
by
the
landlord
one
minute
remaining.
There's
always
the
mnoi
process
available.
So
don't
worry.
If
not
everything
works
out
through
the
capital
improvement
process,
it's
very
the
amortization
schedule.
We
saw
echoing
committee
member
gruenwald's
comments.
It
should
have
citations
to
where
the
code
makes
it
required
and
an
air
conditioner
is
not
a
required
item.
Many
apartments
don't
have
any
air
conditioner.
F
There
are
other
things,
many
things
that
are
not
required.
Car
chargers
are
not
required,
but
so
that
means
that
the
voluntary
petition,
the
joint
petition,
should
stay
far
away
in
concept
from
fair
rate
of
return,
because
fair
rate
of
return
would
not
allow,
for
example,
an
electric
vehicle
charger,
but
that's
something
I
want.
May
I
have
a
few
more
minutes.
We're
gonna
have
two
more
minutes
I'll.
Allow
that
I'll
try
to
go
under.
Thank
you.
So
you
know
another.
F
You
know
the
world.
The
staff
report
pointed
out
that
another
way
for
rents
to
raise
is
through
vacant
cd
control,
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
small
step
without
asking
the
tenant
to
move
out
and
then
move
back
into
the
same
apartment,
to
call
the
joint
petition
process,
voluntary
d
control,
and
I
think
that
will
be
cleaner.
F
So
if
something
that
exists
breaks,
part
of
me
is
pretty
comfortable
with.
You
know
that
there
are
some
building
standards
about
how
should
a
pool
be
or
how
should
an
air
conditioner
function,
but
perhaps
those
are
not
mandated
by
any
code
and
cannot
be
allowed
through
any
petition
process,
because
that
exclusion
applies
to
mnoi
just
as
much
as
it
does
to
the
possible
capital
expenditure
petition
process.
F
F
B
Thank
you,
edie.
Do
we
have
any
other
comments
from
the
public.
B
B
J
Oh
yeah
yeah,
you
saw
me
unveiled,
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
mean
I
think,
while
in
theory
I
agree,
I
think
the
point
about
air
conditioning
is
interesting,
but
you
could
you
know
in
mountain
view,
I'm
getting.
We
are
getting
more
and
more
days
that
are
over.
You
know,
105
degrees
on
an
annual
basis,
and
you
could
see
where
someone
may
have
initially
gotten
into
a
unit.
No
air
conditioning
didn't
think
it
was
needed
and
then
they're
long
term,
and
I
I
do
think
that
is
it's
not
code
necessarily
but
landlords
need
to
provide.
J
You
know
minimum
heating
and
max.
You
know
like
a
max
temp
like
a
range
of
habitability,
and
I
wonder
maybe
there's
a
question
for
karen.
You
know
is:
is
there
a
scenario
where,
where
you
see
air
conditioning
you
know
something
that
can
be
implemented
in
this
way
to
benefit
that
qualifies.
O
I'm
not
sure
right
at
the
moment,
but
that
will
depend
on
how
codes
change,
because
you're
right,
we
are
seeing
a
couple.
Different
factors,
including
you
know,
climate
change
is
clearly
a
factor,
but
also
the
way
buildings
are
built
without
openable
windows
makes
some
changes
as
well.
So
there's
issues
that
I
could
see
changing
and
we've
certainly
seen
the
lack
of
air
conditioning
come
up
in
some
of
our
petitions
in
terms
of
the
condition
of
the
unit
and
the
quality
of
life
of
tenants.
J
Just
restart
the
discussion,
but
I
do
think
when,
when
staff,
if
you
come
back,
I
think
that
list
of
examples
and
kind
of
what's
currently
code
or
maybe
what
are
some
more.
You
know
forward-looking
categories
yeah.
I
think
that
guidance
for
for
landlords
and
for
tenants
would
be
would
be
helpful.
So
I'm
interested
to
see
that
come
back.
B
B
Do
we
have
something
built
in
our
regulations
like
I
have
a
feeling
that
we're
gonna
we
may
come
up
to
a
point
where
it
may
not
be
required
by
code
yet,
but
will
be
required
by
code
in
six
months
or
a
year
or
like
do
we
have
anything?
That's
that
prepares
us
for
that
or
even
if
we
can't
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
we
would
even
do
that,
but
like
I'm,
just
imagining
as
the
scientific
retrofit
one
is,
is
the
common
one
we
know
what's
coming
down
the
line,
we
know
something
is
coming.
B
We
may
not
know
exactly
what
it
is,
but
we
know
that
something
is
coming
down
the
line.
Do
we
is
there
something
in
our
likes
that
can
prepare
us
for
it
or
that
we
can
do.
A
O
O
D
And
so,
when
you're
looking
at
the,
if
you
were
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
amortization
schedule,
I
can
pull
it
up
one
more
time.
D
D
And
we're
looking
at
schedule
b
here
again
so
like
we
have
here,
the
categories
are
really
the
broad
those
broad
improvement
areas
right
so
and
then
we
go
into
the
more
detailed
amortization
schedule
for
helping
with
with
how
we
expense
costs
right.
So
if
we're
looking
at
these
broader
categories,
it
does
provide
that
leeway
for
the
hearing
officers
that
karen
was
mentioning
for
those
forward
thinking
future
thinking
areas
that
you're
trying
to
consider
here.
B
B
D
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
committee
for
your
feedback.
We
will
go
ahead
and
bring
back
policy
recommendations
related
to
the
capital
petition,
capital
improvement,
petitions
specifically
and
then
move
forward
from
there
with
the
regulations
for
the
joint
petition
process.
When
and
if
we
have
the
capital
improvement,
petition
process
regulations
approved.
O
Yes
and
given
the
hour
I'll,
try
to
keep
this
brief.
There
is
a
memo
in
your
packet
on
recent
legislation.
As
I
indicated
in
the
memo,
it
was
a
pretty
light
year
for
the
legislature.
Most
of
the
attention
was
focused
on
3088,
which
was
the
eviction
mortgage
which
I'll
talk
about
in
a
minute.
There
were
really
only
three
other
bills
this
year
affecting
one
lieutenant
issues.
O
It
further
expands
those
tenant
termination
rights
to
include
if
it's,
a
member
of
the
tenant's
family,
who
is
the
victim
of
the
crime,
whether
that
person
lives
with
the
tenant
or
not,
the
tenant
is
able
to
terminate
the
tenancy
and
they're
protected
from
forfeiture
with
their
security.
Deposit
sb
1157
only
applies
to
assisted
housing
developments.
Those
are
housing
developments
that
are
affordable,
housing
developments
that
receive
some
sort
of
governmental
assistance.
O
In
order
to
establish
a
credit
record
for
the
tenant,
there
are
certain
requirements
about
it.
Landlords
can
charge
for
that
service
and
they
have
to
notify
their
tenants
sometime
before
october
of
this
year,
ab2782
affects
mobile
homes,
but
since
we've
talked
about
mobile
homes
several
times,
I
thought
I
would
include
it
even
though
we're
not
regulating
them
right
now.
O
2782
does
a
couple
different
things:
it
impacts
what
goes
into
what
is
a
conversion
impact
report
and
the
time
periods
for
notification
of
the
tenants
if
the
park
is
going
to
change,
use
either
to
close
or
convert
to
a
different
type
of
ownership,
but
the
other
thing
it
does,
is
it
eliminates
over
time
the
exemption
from
local
rent
control
that
is
applicable
to
long-term
leases
in
mobile
home
parks.
O
So
any
long-term
lease
that
was
entered
into
after
february
13th
of
2020
would
not
be
exempt
from
the
local
rent,
control,
ordinance
and
beginning
january
1st
2025
no
long-term
leases
will
be
exempt
and
then
just
going
back,
3088
we've
talked
about
before,
but
as
of
today,
there
is
an
extension
bill
that
has
been
drafted
and
is
expected
to
be
passed
and
signed
by
the
governor
by
the
end
of
this
week,
because
most
of
3088
protections
for
tenants
end
at
the
end
of
this
month.
O
Under
the
extension
bill,
the
protections
would
remain
in
place
until
june
30th
2021.,
so
tenants
who
are
impacted
by
kovid
and
and
are
unable
to
pay
their
rent
would
not
be
subject
to
eviction
as
long
as
they
paid
25
of
the
rent
that
is
due
and
they
they
have
to
make
that
payment
by
june
30th
2021..
O
O
The
state
will
be
setting
up
a
relief
fund
that
will
be
allocated
to
local
jurisdictions
to
be
used
for
rent
relief.
The
rent
relief
can
go
to
landlords
directly
if
it
goes
to
landlords
directly.
The
rent
relief
would
be
in
the
for
eligible
tenants
would
be
in
the
amount
of
80
percent
of
the
rent
owed
and
as
a
condition
of
receiving
that
rent
relief.
The
property
owner
would
have
to
waive
the
other
twenty
percent
of
the
rent.
O
O
It's
designed
to
be
rolled
out
very
rapidly
with
allocations
made
to
local
jurisdictions
sometime
in
february.
So
I
expect
that
we'll
see
some
changes
in
that
legislation
in
the
next
few
days.
It
is
expected
to
be
voted
on
on
thursday,
so
it
can
go
to
the
governor
on
friday.
O
So
that's
the
legislative
update
and
I'm
sure,
we'll
be
talking
about
whatever
it's
sb
91
is
the
new
bill.
I'm
sure
we'll
be
talking
about
that
next
month.
O
B
B
Thank
you,
alexander
brown.
Any
other
comments.
B
Seeing
none
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
committee,
it
doesn't
seem.
This
was
just
a
report
out,
so
we
don't
necessarily
need
any
decisions
or
motions
except
thank
you
karen
for
the
report
and
the
laws
always
fun
to
know
how
our
law
works
in
the
plethora
of
other
laws.
B
All
right,
let's
I
don't
see
anyone
else
playing
in
we'll
go
to
the
next
item:
8.4,
bi-annual
review
of
consumer
price
indexes
for
fair
return,
calculations
of
petitions
for
upward
adjustment,
and
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
A
C
J
B
B
B
B
D
Committee,
thank
you
chair.
As
you
can
see
here,
we
have
our
monthly
status
report
for
the
month
of
december,
which
is
also
the
end
of
q2.
Given
the
hour.
I
will
go
over
it
quickly,
but
I
do
want
to
provide
some
detail
so,
as
of
the
end
of
q2,
we
have
436
public
inquiries
with
316
coming
from
tenants
and
108
from
landlords
and
86
of
those
were
provided
as
bilingual
services,
which
represents
20
of
all
inquiries.
D
This
is
a
significant
increase
from
last
year,
which
means
that
some
of
our
outreach
to
this
particular
community
has
proven
effective.
So
we
can
hopefully
take
some
of
that
correlation,
not
causation
inferences
there
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
we
have
the
public
inquiry
topics
and
we
added
in
a
new
category
for
security
deposits.
D
So
some
of
the
data
numbers
have
changed
from
other
csfra,
this,
the
other
csfra
category.
So
we
broke
it
down
a
little
bit
more
for
you.
It
can.
I
also
want
to
mention
that
the
bulk
of
the
other
csfra
this
year
is
related
to
covid,
and
we
do
have
those
subset
covid
categories
there,
with
the
majority
of
those
requests
being
related
to
the
eviction
moratorium
and
for
people
that
were
unable
to
pay
their
rent.
D
We
have
done
completed
14
workshops
with
120
attendees
so
far.
This
does
not
include
the
work
for
the
eviction
moratorium
that
we've
done,
which
I'll
also
provide
an
update
on
in
the
next
slide.
The
next
group
of
slides
we've
had
23
clinics
with
19
attendees.
We
hold
these
every
friday
now,
so
they
are
our
office
hours
instead
of
clinics,
and
we
have
people
attending
most
most
fridays,
they're
done
through
zoom.
D
We've
done
three
direct
mailings
had
nine
mountain
view,
voice
ads,
14,
email
updates
and
we've
sent
out
emails
to
a
list
that
is
comprised
of
about
550
subscribers.
That
is
more
than
last
year,
we've
had
62
mediations
and
conciliations
with
50
of
those
mediations
being
resolved
successfully
and
eight
better,
pending
agreements
for
required.
Noticing
we've
had
six
banked,
rent
increase
notices,
248
termination
notices
again
under
the
state
law.
Property
owners
are
required
to
file
notice
to
pay
rent
or
quit
notices
now.
So
that's
why
we've
seen
an
increase
in
those
numbers
again.
D
We've
had
zero
tenant,
buyout
notices
and
one
additional
occupant
notice,
and
you
can
see
the
breakdown
of
eviction
notices
here
again,
we've
had
an
increase
in
those
failure
to
pay
rent
notices
for
the
end
of
q1
and
all
of
q2.
D
Because
of
how
the
eviction
moratorium
was
re-uh
written
for
for
ab3088
for
our
tenant
relocation
assistance,
we've
had
one
property
go
into
redevelopment
in
2020.
These
are
on
calendar
year,
not
on
fiscal
year
for
four
years
affected
and
in
calendar
year
2020
we
had
53
households
that
received
assistance,
and
we
currently
have
15
petitions
that
well
and
as
of
the
end
of
december,
this
has
since
changed
when
we
currently,
during
this
time
period
had
15
petitions
that
were
in
the
hearing
process,
five
that
were
in
review
and
those
were
all
tenant.
D
Petitions
vacancy
rate
data
looked
as
follow.
You
can
see
this
here
for
fully
covered
units.
At
the
end
of
december
it
was
10
according
to
costar.
Once
again,
this
is
co-star
data
only
and
for
the
the
average
market
rent
for
fully
covered
units,
it's
on
co-star
at
2
371
a
month
right
now
we
had
we've
had
two
properties
be
sold
in
fiscal
year,
20
2021
for
a
total
of
120
units,
and
right
now
there
are
six
properties
up
for
sale,
for
a
total
of
97
units
and
for
the
consumer
price
index.
D
For
the
end
of
december,
we
had
everything
is
kind
of
just
holding
steady
right
now,
26
for
the
cpi,
rent
of
primary
residents,
23
for
cpi
housing
and
17
for
cpi
of
all
items,
and
then
I
did
want
to
provide
an
update
for
eviction
moratorium
outreach.
So
your
csf
fra
team
is
providing
the
bulk
of
that
for
the
city
right
now
from
april
2020
through
december
2020.
D
D
Technical
difficulties
12
in
english
and
spanish
and
one
in
english
and
chinese.
We
had
324
attendees
for
that
and
there
were
14
mountain
view,
voice
advertisements
related
to
those
community
meetings.
We
held
six
virtual.
We
attended
six
virtual
bilingual
community
meetings
with
the
school
districts
and
we
reached
approximately
300
community
members.
D
Three
direct
mailings
went
out
targeting
36
000
households
and
655
csfra
landlords.
One
informational
packet
was
sent
to
655
landlords,
we
sent
out
49,
targeted
emails
and
mountain
view,
voice
messages
and
then
for
the
multimodal
communications.
We
have
four
web
pages
that
we
maintain
for
this
particular
program
in
three
languages,
so
we
have
an
english
page,
a
spanish
page
and
a
mandarin
page
and
then
an
informational
page
for
property
owners
as
well.
That
is
only
provided
in
english,
with
a
total
of
12
924
page
views.
D
We
had
two
packets
for
tenants
and
landlords
that
contain
relevant
information
and
forms
seven
informational
documents.
We
still
have
those
those
are
created
and
maintained
by
staff,
including
we've
had
four
informational
sheets:
three
faqs
in
all
three
languages.
We've
had
12
social
media
posts
through
the
city's
social
media
channels.
D
There
have
been
three
short
videos
that
have
been
updated
in
three
languages:
three
longer
videos,
one
of
which
was
in
three
languages
and
we've
had
four
press
releases.
All
of
these
multimodal
multilingual
communications
were
shared
via
nextdoor,
whatsapp,
wechat
and
through
community
organizations,
and
that
is
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
specifically
for
the
eviction
moratorium.
D
We
are
also
going
to
be
creating
and
distributing
packets
that
have
information
on
the
eviction
moratorium
updates
coming
up
through
the
state
and
the
rent
relief
available
through
the
city,
and
those
will
be
going
out
through
some
of
the
food
distribution
services
and
available
through
these
school
districts
again
and
through
some
of
our
other
community
organizations.
So
we
are
really
trying
to
get
the
word
out
about
the
rent
relief
opportunities,
as
well
as
the
fiction
moratorium
in
general
and
some
of
our
basic
addiction
protections
in
the
city
for
tenants
and
for
property
owners
and
andrea.
A
So
we'll
just
be
going
over
quickly:
the
kerbin
19
tenant,
the
landlord
programs.
So
we'll
start
off
with
the
eviction
moratorium,
which
karen
gave
a
very
thorough
and
wonderful
overview
of
anyway,
go
to
the
next
slide
yep.
So,
as
karen
said,
we'll
find
out
more
by
the
end
of
the
week
when
that
gets
signed
in
and
if
and
when
that's
passed,
but
that
would
extend
through
june
30th
2021.
A
If
the
state
does
not
pass
one
which
we
assume
that
it's
going
to
there,
but
they
are
also
going
to
be
discussing
adding
additional
rent
relief
to
our
relief
program
here
in
the
city
of
mountain
view,
and
also,
I
would
like
to
remember
to
mention
that
if
the
city
passes
this
eviction
moratorium,
it
would
expire
when
the
state
extends
theirs.
A
So
we
will
definitely
be
updating
everyone
here
on
the
committee
of
this,
and
I
believe
most
people
who
are
still
with
us
on
the
line
are
part
of
our
email
group.
But
if
you
are
not-
and
you
would
like
to
be
added
to
our
emailing
list,
you
can
sign
up
at
mymb
or
if
you
want,
you
can
just
email
us
at
rhc
mountainview.gov
and
we
will
go
ahead
and
add
you
to
our
email
list.
B
So
the
council
is
looking
at
extending
the
the
city's
eviction
moratorium
and
if
the
state
passes
theirs,
it
will
negate
the
cities
correct.
That's
right,
my
understanding
is
the
states
expire
will
expire.
The
proposed
one
will
expire
at
the
end
of
june.
B
B
O
Answer
for
that
yeah
this
is
one
of
the
sections
of
the
new
legislation
and
I'm
trying
to
pull
up
the
section,
and
it's
in
that
is
a
little
unclear,
but
effectively
anything
that
the
city
passes
can't
have
any
effect
until
july,
1st
2021
and
then,
even
with
that
the
repayment
periods
are
restricted
by
state
law.
O
So
when
tenants
have
to
repay
the
rent
will
is
determined
by
state
one
right
now.
What
the
legislation
says
is
the
repayment
period
can't
extend
beyond
august
31st
2021.
O
Well,
I
mean
that's
the
problem,
so
3088
said
that
if
you
had
a
local
ordinance
and
it
had
a
repayment
period
that
that
repayment
period
could
mixed
in
beyond
august,
31st
2022,
so
all
the
rent
would
have
to
be
repaid
by
that
time
period.
A
Okay,
perfect,
so
to
see
if
mountain
view
also
thank
you
karen,
you
see
the
mountain
view
always
also
has
our
retina
relief
program
still
in
place
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
city
council
is
going
to
be
discussing
adding
more
funds
into
that.
We
do
currently
still
have
funds
available.
We
will
be
adding
more
potentially
tomorrow.
D
In
the
state,
the
new
state
law
is
also
one
of
the
new
state.
Laws
is
also
looking
at
distributing
2.6
billion
dollars
worth
of
funds
for
rent
relief
that
would
be
distributed
to
cities.
We
don't
know
what
mountain
views
allocation
would
look
like
yet,
but
it
would
be
right
now
it's
looking
like
it
would
be
able
to
be
applied
for
by
both
tenants
and
property
owners,
so
property
owners
could
apply
for
rent
relief
on
behalf
of
their
tenants
and
then
the
past
due
rent
would
get
reduced
by
whatever
amount
that
that
unit
was
awarded.
D
A
Okay
and
lastly,
lizzy
also
still
has
in
place
our
utility
relief
program,
so
any
resident
who
is
experiencing
a
coven
19
financial
hardship
can
apply
for
a
one-time,
fifty
dollar
credit
towards
any
of
their
utility
bills
and
they
do
have
to
income
qualify
and
again.
The
contact
for
that
program
is
revenue
staff
at
mountainview.gov,
or
you
can
call
the
phone
number
listed
on
the
screen,
and
I
will
just
also
mention
there
that,
during
the
each
emergency,
these
services
will
not
be
shut
off
for
non-payment.
D
Thank
you,
andrea.
I'm
gonna
hop
back
in
here
really
quick
and
wrap
up
the
evening
for
everyone,
so
this
is
going
over
our
upcoming
webinars
and
I
promise
we're
not
going
back
in
time.
D
We
have
two
workshops
on
february:
11th
one
is
a
mediation
for
landlord
tenant
issues
that
is
open
to
everybody,
landlords
and
tenants,
and
then
one
is
a
mediation
for
landlord
tenant
issues
at
6
30
on
february
11th
that
is,
tenant,
focused
and
bilingual.
On
february
18th
we
have
a
hud
mortgage
counseling
workshop
for
landlords
at
three
o'clock,
and
we
also
have
another
landlord
property
registration
on
february
25th
at
three,
and
then
we
have
one
in
march
as
well.
D
So
we're
really
trying
to
get
as
many
people
through
those
as
possible
and
if
property
owners
do
have
questions,
they
can
always
come
to
our
virtual
office
hours,
which
are
every
friday
from
one
o'clock
to
3
p.m.
Andrea,
and
I
are
there
to
answer
any
questions
and
happily
happily,
staff
that
opportunity
for
the
community,
and
this
is
contact
information
just
in
case
anyone
out.
There
needs
to
reach
us
for
the
mountain
view,
rental
housing,
helpline
and
that
concludes
staff's
presentation.
A
Far
yeah
so
far
we
have
50
who
have
completed
their
registration,
and
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
still
working
on
it,
but
I
don't
have
a
way
to
look
up
that
number.
A
The
deadline
is
the
end
of
the
month
so
february
1st,
but
we
did
you
all
voted
in
that
buffer
extension
there.
So
we
have
a
grace
period
until
march
1st,
oh
good,.
A
Thanks
yeah,
that's
another
reason
why
we're
trying
to
cram
in
as
many
of
those
zoom
webinars
as
we
can
before
the
deadline.
B
A
It
really
is
a
mix.
We
definitely
have
a
lot
of
small
landlords
that
attend,
but
we
definitely
have
the
bigger
properties
attending
and
sending
their
property
managers
as
well
to
learn
how
to
use
the
website.