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Hello,
Linda
Ryder,
Alan,
Ryder,
five,
zero,
zero
to
Whistler
Road
West.
We
are
the
property
owners
on
the
opposite
side
of
set
property
in
question
again
we're
just
here
to
voice
our
concerns
that
we're
against
the
rezoning
being
that
Richland
on
our
end
is
a
dead
end.
There's
other
things
we've
gone
through,
which
I'll
speak
again,
if
need
be,
if
it's
brought
back
up,
we
want
to
see
where
we're
at
also
okay.
Thank.
H
B
Yeah,
so
we
will
be
talking
about
Planning
Commission
resolution
number
11
2019
this
evening.
It's
currently
set
for
letter
and,
however,
since
we
have
some
folks
here
that
are
interested
in
it,
I
will
probably
move
it
up
to
the
top
of
the
agenda,
so
you
don't
have
to
sit
through
everything
else
yeah,
unless
you
want
to
so
we
will
probably
go
ahead
and
do
that
also
before
we
get
started
on
committee
of
the
whole
are.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
were
looking
at
tonight
for
an
appointment
to
a
border
Commission,
okay
cuz?
B
If
there
was
I,
was
going
to
move
that
further
up?
But
since
there's
not
we'll
leave
that
where
it
is,
we
will
also
be
holding
off
on
discussion
of
letter,
A
and
B
tonight,
because
I
think
those
are
going
to
take
a
little
more
time
and
we
have
a
number
of
things
that
we
need
to
need
to
work
through
so
at
at
this
point,
then
I
am
going
to
skip
down
to
letter
n
Planning
Commission
resolution
number
11
2019
mr.
Gaynor.
Yes,.
B
J
B
J
K
B
K
K
K
J
B
Think
that
reasonings
are
important
enough,
whether
we
vote
them
up
or
down
that
there
should
be
three
readings.
That's
just
my
opinion,
all
right.
So
at
this
point
I'm
sorry
I
know
those
were
my
questions.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
discussion
and
just
so
that
folks
know
who
I
don't
think
have
been
here
before
but
are
interested
in
this
during
committee
of
the
whole?
B
D
I'll
just
add
that
I
for
mr.
Abu
Kola
I
understand
he
has
an
investment.
He
wants
to
make
good
on
it,
but
just
my
thinking
is,
he
probably
should
have
made
the
sale
of
the
property
contingent
on
such
a
move.
It
seems
like
he's
doing
it
in
Reverse,
so
as
I
feel
for
my
don't
I'm
not
inclined
to
support
this
myself
I
just.
I
Like
to
add
also
Joe
before
you
go
ahead,
if
I
believe,
first
of
all,
he
should
have
came
forward
with
with
an
idea
for
a
business.
Not
maybe
I'll
do
this.
Maybe
I'll
do
that
I'd
not
have
been
in
favor
of
it,
even
if
he
did
that,
but
that
that
would
have
been
the
proper
way
to
do
it,
and
that
was
told
these
folks
that
are
against
it,
whether
they
are
strongly
against
it
or
just
a
little
bit
against
it.
I
So
since
he
didn't
have
any
business
plan
and
in
mind
as
far
as
him
losing
money,
I,
don't
believe
he's
going
to
be
losing
any
money
he'll
be
able
to
resell
as
his
property,
either
for
a
house
or
whatever,
but
he
shouldn't
at
the
price
he
bought
it
at.
He
won't
be
losing
any
money,
so
I
would
recommend
that
we
move
it
on
to
the
next
week's
agenda
for
the
first
reading
in
and
also
wave
the
second
and
third
and
past
that
can
get
her
going,
I
mean
to
turn
it
down.
It's.
A
I
M
K
Owning
stuff,
when
we
seen
if
we
made
this
all
see
one
up
and
down
the
road
and
that's
what
I
see
happening
to
any
area
like
that
and
I
think
I
forewarned
everybody
it's
been
here
with
their
concerns
for
this
particular
one
that
that's
what
I
see
happening,
woo
stir
Road
in
the
future,
but
that
way
you'll
all
go
that
way.
You'll
all
be
on
equal
ground.
As
far
as
how
your
your
properties
are
done
and
I
do
have
a
question
that
we
have
this
discussion.
B
J
Codifies
give
to
plan
commissioners
certain
days
to
act,
to
make
a
recommendation.
All
they're
doing
is
making
a
recommendation
one
way
or
the
other
right.
If
they
could
think
about
yes,
think
about.
No,
they
don't
have
to
do
anything,
they
don't
vote,
they
don't
do
anything.
Then
it
goes
to
the
next
step,
which.
J
B
I
B
A
D
M
B
M
So
if
we
take
a
step
back
that
we
would
like
something
passed
by
the
end
of
April
back
three
readings.
So
if
we,
if
our
target
third
reading,
is
the
last
meeting
in
April,
we
would
try
to
have
something
to
you
in
March
for
committee
of
the
whole
and
then
send
it
to
Council
subsequently
for
their
three
readings
and.
K
M
Will
be
a
combination
of
decibels
with
time
it
was
pretty
strict
time
regulations
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
if
I
were
to
have
a
band,
not
that
I
am
hypothetically
in
my
neighborhood.
My
band
should
really
stop
at
eleven
Hart
eleven
o'clock.
My
neighbors
shouldn't
have
to
listen
to
it
past
eleven.
So
in
our
discussions
we
looked
at
those
kind
of
activities
that
could
fester.
You
know
neighborhood
disputes
and
and
cause
issues,
so
it
will
be
time
and
decibels.
M
M
N
N
J
Night,
we'll
take
all
that
I
mean
it's
probably
better
to
actually
get
something
in
front
of
you.
I
think
those
are
all
we'd,
be
really
careful.
As
mr.
Kern
noted
about
noise
ordinances
they're
easy
to
be
misinterpreted,
it
leaves
it
just
putting
one
in
maybe
a
more
stricter
one
can
lead
to
more
neighbour
disputes.
J
More
officer
calls
chickens
are
bothering
me,
you
know
this,
that
in
the
other,
so
we
we
want
to
be
very
careful
about
that,
and
we're
gonna
probably
look
to
see
what
other
communities
are
doing
and
find
one
that
we
like
we're
not
looking
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
So
we'll
get
something
to
you,
so
you
can
take
a
look
at
it
and
go
from
there.
L
N
Had
just
thrown
out
their
proposal
that
I
think
it's
important
to
reflect
what
the
city
has
been
doing
with
the
taxpayer
dollars,
whether
it
be
putting
in
new
culverts
whether
it
it's
a
new
vehicle,
whatever
have
a
page
specifically
on
the
website,
when
residents
write
letters,
you
know
thinking,
Police
Department
for
great
service
or
the
fire
department
or
the
service
department
for
for
what
their
employees
have
done.
I
think
it's
it's
a
nice
place
to
have
a
lot
of
positive
PR
for
the
city
and
just
to
show
the
taxpayers
hey.
N
This
is
what
we're
doing
with
your
money.
Here
are
some
of
the
improvements
going
on
in
the
city
right
now.
Here
are
some
things
that
you
can
expect
different
things
like
that,
so
I
guess
I'm,
just
throwing
it
out
there
to
see
what
the
rest
of
council
thinks
and
ask
administration
you
know
is
this
feasible?
Do
we
have
somebody
that's
able
to
update
the
website.
M
N
That's
fine,
I
wasn't
looking
to,
as
the
term
was
mentioned
earlier
reinvent
the
wheel.
I
was
just
looking
for:
let's
get
some
positive
PR
going
in
city,
let
the
residents
see
where
their
tax
dollars
are
being
spent,
and
you
know
the
positive
improvements.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
the
city
that
are
really
fantastic
and
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
get
that
out
there.
So
people
can
see
it
and.
K
I
You
know
the
days
are
different.
The
months
everything
is
different
and
there's
nothing
on
there
on
that
brochure.
At
least
that
says:
Martin
Luther,
King
Day
as
a
holiday,
so
I
called
them.
Of
course,
there's
no
answer.
It's
a
holiday,
so
I
went
online
on
their
internet
site
and
looked
for
the
holiday
lists
and
I
found
nothing.
So
I
called
him
today.
I
We
only
have
three
holidays,
Christmas
New,
Year's
and
Thanksgiving,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
other
than
that
call
a
week
before
the
pickup
date
is
supposed
to
be
and
we'll
give
you
our
information,
let
you
know
for
certain:
if
we're
going
to
pickup
or
not
well,
I,
don't
think
that's
a
very
good
way
to
do
it
and
the
brochure
that
they
handed
out
or
we
handed
out
was
absolutely
perfect.
It
had
every
bit
of
information
that
anybody
could
possibly
want
was
on
that
brochure.
I
So
if
we
made
that
brochure
I
would
suggest
that,
even
though
we
only
have
a
year
left
on
the
contract,
at
least
be
given
consideration
for
the
next
contract
that
we
do
to
make
certain
that
a
brochure
like
that
goes
out
with
some
way
to
update
it
on
our
website,
because
there's
nothing
on
our
website
either.
That
tells
so
that's
what
reminded
me
of
it.
I,
when
Scott
comes
up
with
these
things
about
the
website,
I
agree
with
him
and
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
should
be
accessible
in
website
is
city
services.
I
When
and
if
they're
going
to
have
them
and
I
know
it
sounds
stupid,
I
didn't
know
if
they
were
going
to
have
a
holiday
or
not.
Yesterday
I
thought
it
should
be
a
holiday,
but
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
going
to
be
or
not
until
I
called
him
and
found
out.
They
were
there.
So
it
might
be
something
to
think
about
anyway.
L
Just
a
question
I
originally
brought
up
the
website,
issues
and
I.
Think
things
kind
of
snowballed
from
there
and
I
think
it
took
a
good
turn
to
I.
Do
have
some
very
positive
things,
but
the
thing
I
noticed
was
just
simply:
the
health
advisory
board
was
still
listed
and
it
was
done
away
with
years
ago.
I
just
wondered:
if,
because
we
we
are
many
organizations
review
their
bylaws
on
a
regular
basis,
certain
portion
of
it
percentages
of
them
is
there
any
one
that
takes
a
critical
eye
to
our
website
periodically
to
update
all
right.
L
H
Can
speak
as
the
Director
of
Finance
I
look
at
mine
at
least
once
or
twice
a
year
and
updated
I
think
also
the
police
chief
and
the
fire
chief
do
as
well.
I
know:
Shannon
works
real
hard
on
it,
but
I
know
as
as
a
department
manager,
I
I,
look
at
my
page,
real,
close
and
I
think
they
they
do
as
well.
Well,.
B
And
I
think
we
can
all
help
out.
If
we
see
something
that
shouldn't
on
the
website,
then
we
can
just
let
Shannon
know
or
let
Robert
and
over
let
somebody
know
and
they
can
change
it.
You
know,
just
like
you
did
with
the
health
advisory
board,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
it's
been
changed
or
not,
but
I
mean
that
you.
N
You,
mr.
president,
this
ordinance
pertains
to
setting
or
establishing
benefit
charges
for
water
and
sewer.
Currently,
the
administration
is
proposing
13700
per
benefit
for
the
sewer
and
I
think
it
was
14
14500
for
the
benefit
for
water,
and
this
is
on
Cleveland
Maslin
Road
project.
That's
going
on.
N
I
B
Which,
personally
I
think
is
pretty
generous?
If
it
were
up
to
me,
commercial
tap
ins
would
be
paid
upfront
because
they
should
be
able
to
have
the
ability
to
take
those
loans
and
because
it's
a
it's,
an
improvement
I
would
think
they
would
want
to
do
that
for
tax
purposes,
but
I'm,
okay,
with
five
years
on
that
I'm.
Certainly
okay
with
ten
years
for
four
residential
properties,
so
I
mean
I.
Think
the
installment
plans
have
been
set
forth
are
fine.
Mr.
J
Cohen,
just
just
to
clarify
the
the
collection
mechanism
on
those
is
city
of
Barbara
Dan's
agreed
that
we
can
put
those
charges
on
the
water
and
sewer
bills,
so
that
would
be
charged
monthly
on
the
water
and
sewer
bills.
An
extra
amount,
mr.
Matson
really
doesn't
have
a
utility
billing
software.
That
would
allow
him
to
do
that.
That.
J
J
So
yeah:
well,
it
depends
on
where
you
go
where
it
comes
in,
but
it
would
have
to
if
it
goes.
If
it's
126
money
upfront
for
water,
then
it
goes
back
on
the
126,
and
so
they
I
think
they
provide.
Mr.
Minister
could
speak
to
it.
They
provide
detail
when
they
send
over
the
money.
I
would
I
would
imagine.
B
H
B
K
Just
a
recap:
this
will
give
the
businesses
five
years
or
60
monthly
installments
to
pay
theirs
off.
Residential
people
will
get
ten
years
or
120
monthly
installments.
Unless
it's
a
force
mandated
tap
in
and
then
they
could
get
20
years
or
240
monthly
installments
or
a
total
of
200
to
240
monthly
installments
I
should
say,
and
the
first
installment
is
going
to
be
due
when
the
tap
in
permit
is
actually
issued.
This
is
more
for
public's
benefit
than
ours
and
then
they'll.
K
K
J
N
J
M
So
the
total
project
costs,
including
engineering,
because
this
is
enough-
this
is
a
petitioned
project.
So
when
we
petitioned
a
project,
we
take
the
total
project
costs
that
we
had
incurred
and
there
were
some
unexpected
cost
that
we
incurred
during
this
project.
We
factored
them
into
this
total
amount.
We
took
the
number
of
properties
that
could
connect
to
the
service
based
on
what
we
PA
recommends
for
commercial-type
installations,
residential,
etc.
E
M
M
Tonight,
14
that,
based
on
the
because
the
water
was
more
expensive
because
of
those
Barberton
specifications
required
us
to
use,
cast
iron
under
the
road
so
from
the
school
State
Route
261,
that's
cast-iron
so
now
that
the
cost
was
increased
and
we
spread
that
cost
over
all
potential
customers
in
the
ER.
You
number
is
based
on
the
estimated
usage
per
property
that
can
connect
to
that
line.
M
J
N
I
D
D
People
hear
what
they
say,
what
are
said
and
they
take
them
to
the
whatever
degree
they
want
to
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear.
If
sewers
in
front
of
your
house
and
you're
within
200
feet
of
that
sewer
and
your
septic
fails,
you
will
be
forced
Italian.
So
as
though,
that's
not
the
intention
of
this
project,
if
there's
a
sewer
in
front
of
your
house,
there's
a
chance
at
some
point,
you're
gonna
be
forced
to
time.
B
K
For
clarity,
the
14
13,
whatever
the
case
may
be
that's
just
for
getting
for
the
line
in
front
of
your
house
and
have
any
use
of
it.
You'd
still
have
the
added
monies
of
abandoning
your
sewer
system
and
actually
running
the
line
from
your
house
to
the
road
I.
Just
don't
want
anybody
to
think
you
didn't
tell
me
that
part.
We
didn't
tell
you
that
part
and
that's
not
the
end
of
it
plus
there's
the
Barbican
whatever
it
is,
you'd
have
to
pay
them
for
their
fees.
K
Just
yes,
so
nobody
thinks
we're
trying
to
give
them
sugarcoat
this
at
all
and
then
also
whatever
poison
you
pick
and
I.
Don't
think
any
of
you.
People
are
actually
involved
in
this,
but
any
poison
that
gets
picked
in
this
project
or
in
a
future
project.
If
we
follow
this
format,
if
you
want
to
make
take
the
payments
you're
going
to
be
making
the
payments,
there
won't
be
any
change
in
anything.
You
could
weigh
I'm
reading
this.
N
If
you
pay
upfront,
obviously,
and
just
to
clarify
the
sewer
benefit
charge
for
one
benefit,
is
thirteen
thousand
seven
hundred.
So
if
you
pay
that
upfront
there's
no
interest,
there
is
no
administrative
fee,
there's
it's
the
thirteen
thousand
seven
hundred
as
the
the
cost,
and
then
the
water
would
be
fourteen
thousand
five
hundred
mr.
Fowler
just.
M
N
M
Will
be
any
I
mean
we
have
ordinances
on
the
books
currently
I
believe
there's
one
on
Johnson
Road,
but
don't
quote
me
on
the
street,
but
we
have
ordinances
on
the
books
that
when
someone
comes
into
Viviane
to
ask,
what's
the
tap
in
fee
that
we
have
to
refer
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
charging
the
appropriate
tap
in.
So
this
will
be
in
perpetuity
for
this
connection.
K
J
N
So
I
guess
that's
probably
something
that
people
need
to
give
some
thought
to.
You
know:
how
long
do
we
leave
this
open
I
mean?
Can
we
just
take
out
a
loan?
We're
not
gonna
get
as
good
an
interest
rate.
Are
we
if
we
take
out
a
loan,
say
five
years
from
now
for
an
individual
that
wants
to
tap
into
the
sewer,
but.
B
B
N
I
N
A
K
J
N
J
B
B
H
J
J
J
Typical
due
diligence
for
people
buying
how
I
mean
they
have
to
do
their
own
due
diligence
and
they're
buying
a
house
but
usually
you'll,
see
two
or
three
months
of
utility
bills
to
get
a
sense
of
what
utilities
cost
for
operating
the
house,
you
should
see
the
charge
on
their
I
mean
that
should
be,
but
you
know
we
can't
force
them
to
disclose
that,
but
should
be
it's
not
like
an
assessment
where
it
has
to
be
disclosed.
That's
why
so
under
yeah.
N
B
N
N
Access
fees,
starting
in
2020,
is
twelve
hundred
twenty.
Twenty-One
be
thirteen
hundred
goes
up
a
hundred
dollars
every
year
until
2023,
which
is
at
fifteen
hundred,
then
I
was
brought
up
when
we
discussed
this,
that
we
haven't
changed
home
since
was
it
2009
somewhere
right
in
there
we
hadn't
increased
anything.
Mr.
Fowler
I
had.
B
Certainly,
don't
think
that
what
was
originally
talked
about,
which
is
a
hundred
dollars
a
year,
I,
don't
think
that's
out
of
the
realm.
So
I
certainly
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
revised
one,
where
it's
a
little
less
saved
a
residents
a
little
bit
of
money.
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
I
myself.
K
K
It
would
have
been
higher,
I
believe
mr.
Markey
pointed
out,
it
would
have
been
1550
starting
off
as
opposed
to
the
1200
we're
looking
at
now
for
2020
and
then
on
the
other
hand,
what
is
the
city
actually
benefiting
out
of
that
$50
per
thing,
but
I
know
we
are
saying
it's
not
that
much
well,
it
could
be
to
somebody
I,
just
don't
see
if
we're
not
got
that
much
of
a
benefit
for
it.
K
L
D
Also,
on
top
of
that,
it
does
say
that
every
five
years
or
sooner
council
will
recalculate
these
and
I
agree
with
Miss
Lipke
taxpayers.
All
they
see
is
increases
everywhere.
So
they're
not
gonna,
see
it
as
it's
been
since
2009
they're,
just
gonna
see
an
increase
period
and
that's
all
they're
gonna
care
about
so
easier.
We
can
make
it
the
better.
N
I
B
B
D
You,
mr.
president,
as
has
been
the
practice
of
council
over
the
last
several
years,
the
police
department
is
looking
to
purchase
two
more
vehicles
this
year.
Speaking
with
chief
D'allesandro
last
week,
he
told
me
that
you
know.
Last
year
we
bought
a
couple
dodge
Durangos
for
the
first
time,
as
opposed
to
normal
sedans,
and
he
said
the
difference
is
amazing.
They
really
like
the
new
vehicles.
So
that's
what
he
wants
to
stick
with,
eventually
changing
I
believe
the
whole
fleet
over
to
that.
D
So
he's
he's
looking
to
get
to
2020
judge
Durango's
trading
into
two
of
his
current
cars.
He
trade
in
a
2017
for
a
$9,000,
trade-in
and
then
he'd
also
trade
in
a
2008
which
would
be
a
two
thousand
dollar
trade
in
totally
in
fifty
four
thousand
six
hundred
thirty
six
dollars,
he
had
other
quote
which
actually
what
he
had
sent
to
all
of
Council
had
the.
B
D
B
M
B
A
C
I
A
A
reappointment
okay,
gotcha
all
right,
and
then
we
have
a
reappointment
of
raff
Dowling
to
the
Planning
Commission
reappointment
of
Joseph
Conti
to
the
Civil
Service
Commission
reappointment
of
Justin
Markey
to
the
Income
Tax
Board
of
pills,
reappointment
of
Suzanne
Boyer
to
the
Income
Tax
Board
of
Appeals
reappointment
of
thomas
marino
ii
to
the
income
tax
board
of
the
pills.
We
also
have
richard
Witwer
appointment
to
the
parks
and
cemetery
Ambani
Gardener
appointment
to
the
park
and
cemetery
and
I'm
assuming
I
saw
ordinance
15
through
24
were
those
last
to
be
27
and
28.
C
K
K
B
B
A
F
A
N
L
M
M
L
M
B
B
K
Taken
and
I
had
went
over
them
and
a
lot
of
it.
Okay,
it
looks
like
all
the
everything
that
we
compared
it
to
they're
very
similar
to
the
one
we're
getting,
and
this
by
far
beats
that
price,
because
they
didn't
take
trade-ins
and
those
would
have
been
for
ninety
two
thousand
and
over
a
hundred
thousand,
so
they
all
seemed
about
the
same
to
me.
We
need
to
get
this
so
we
can
get
started.
K
This
will
be
an
enclosed
system,
which
is
also
going
to
be
safer
and
more
comfortable
for
our
employees
to
get
done
and
I
think
we
even
talked
about
doing
this
last
year.
The
funding
as
I
understand
it
is
available,
we'll
be
taking
off
the
two
lines,
one
of
them:
okay,
now
that
one's
going
away
from
police
and
equipment
and
we'll
be
able
to
have
the
funding
for
that
to
be
able
to
get
it
now.
My
question
is:
do
we
need
to
do
any
waving
on
this?
No.
K
K
B
B
I
This
is
for
a
planning
commission
resolution
that
that
they
did
approve
and
it's
for
rezoning
a
piece
of
property.
That's
been
she's,
been
trying
to
sell
it
for
quite
some
time
as
commercial,
but
having
no
luck
so
she
wants
to
go
to
residential.
Have
it
changed
to
residential
zoning
and
I
see
no
problem
with
it
at
all.
I
I
B
I
I
I
B
I
Thought
it's
something
that
should
be
looked
into
because
of
the
fact.
If
somebody's
going
to
build
a
house
there-
and
hopefully
they
will
I
believe
if
I
remember
right
several
years
ago,
there
was
a
road
garage,
small
road
garage
that
they
stored
a
tractor
or
something
in
for
the
road
crew,
and
it
was
got
to
the
point
where
needed
torn
down.
I
So
I
think
our
people
tore
it
down,
I
believe
or
had
somebody
tear
it
down,
and
now
the
foundation
is
still
there,
so
it
might
be
worth
taking
a
look
at
just
since
he's
gonna
rezone
this
property
and
hopefully
somebody
will
buy
and
build
because
it's
going
to
be
an
ugliest
addition
to
the
neighborhood.
That's
you
know
to
somebody:
that's
gonna,
build
there.
B
I
B
A
I
This
is
a
owner
requested
land
by
also
land
by
the
Eastern
Road
industrial
complex.
It's
contemplated
up
there
in
fair
land
and
it
also
requested
by
the
owner
the
way
I
understand
it
is
that
that
is
right
in
it,
and
so
I
think
it
should
be
approved.
He's
wanting
it
zoned
the
same
as
the
rest
of
those
properties
have
been
zoned
up
there.
So
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
it.
I.
L
M
M
I
K
B
So
the
one
we're
talking
about
right
now,
letter
L
is
Planning
Commission
resolution
number
two
2020,
that
is
ppm
numbers,
4608
0:46
Oh,
eight,
zero,
zero
one
4608,
zero,
zero,
there's
a
number
of
them
in
the
back
and
has
PC
resolution
number
two
20/20
on
it.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
covered
by
this
particular
ordinance
that
were
letter,
L
and
then
M
is
gonna,
be
someone
after
that
which.