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B
B
A
A
Let's
do
it
okay,
I
call
the
order.
The
norton
city
council
committee
work
session.
It's
monday
february,
1st
2021.
pm.
Please
rise
for
a
pledge
of
allegiance
and
a
moment
of
silence,
reflection.
B
E
F
F
G
Thank
you,
mr
president,
because
of
having
this
reinvestment
area,
we
have
to
establish
a
council.
G
To
evaluate
the
tax
and
incentive
each
year.
G
Two
members
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
a
member.
G
Appointed
by
the
majority
of
those
four
and
the
terms
are
three
years:
essentially
their
duties
are
to
inspect
the
area.
Look
at
the
tax
abatement
make
sure
that
everything's
in
order
everything's,
you
know
open.
G
So
we
just
need
to
appoint
two
people
to
this
council.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
point
people
off
the
personnel
and
rules
or
I
don't
know
how
we
want
to
proceed.
G
Do
you
have
something
to
add
to
that?
Mr
power.
F
Yeah,
the
planning
commission
will
appoint
one
person
as
well,
so
there'll
be
five
members
on
this
board.
They'll
meet
one
time
annually.
The
housing
officer
as
as
appointed
in
the
ordinance,
we'll
go
out
and
agree.
The
properties
present
the
board
with
recommendation
and
then
subsequently,
the
board
will
make
their
recommendation
to
the
tax
incentive
review
council
at
the
county
level.
D
D
Okay,
that
makes
seven
and
it's
total.
There
are
some
other
things
on
this.
I
just
had
a
question
whether
it
states
that
the
last
sentence
of
the
first
paragraph
here
states
who
shall
be
residents
of
the
city
and
norton
community
reinvestment
area,
all
of
whom
shall
serve
three-year
terms.
D
F
D
D
You
and
I
had
spoke
about
the
inspection
procedure
and
I
had
said
that
I
thought
it
was
the
council
itself,
that's
being
created.
That
would
do
the
inspecting,
and
I
I
after
I
read
it.
I
I
agree.
I
was
right
on
that.
However,
I
would
think
that
it
would
be
best
if
the
council
consulted
in
their
inspection
process.
D
The
only
way
I
know
they
could
inspect
would
be
to
go
through
you
and
pam
keener
and
justin
markey
to
do
the
actual
inspection
we
wouldn't
have
the
for
or
with
all
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
to
to
do.
You
know
the
council.
Membership
wouldn't
have
the
ability
to
do
the
inspecting
on
their
own,
even
though
the
ohio
revised
code
does
state
that
this
council
that
we're
creating
is
to
do
the
inspecting.
D
I
I
don't
know
how
that
would
be
accomplished.
You
know,
without
taking
information
from
the
three
of
you.
Does
everybody
agree
with
that
or
not.
B
Are
you,
are
you
saying
that,
like
somebody
from
like
bill
from
zoning,
or
somebody
like
that,
be.
D
Involved
well,
what
I'm
saying
is:
yeah,
of
course,
either
bill
or
robert
himself
or
pam
keener.
All
the
financials
on
this
are
are
contained
within
mainly
robert
and
pam,
and
justin
markey
and.
D
Bill
bill
would
do
the
actual
physical
in
the
in
the
field,
inspections,
I'm
sure,
but
the
actual
performance
of
the
individuals
that
are,
you
know
what
what
we're
spending
money
on
for
these
areas
and
things
would
be
confirmed
by
those
three
people
that
I
said
you
know
our
our
council,
that
we
appoint
wouldn't
have
any
other
way
to
get
that
information
other
than
through
the
city's
representatives
in
administration.
D
G
D
D
I
was,
I
was
just
clarifying
the
fact
that
we're
not
going
to
be
going
out
into
the
field
and
say:
oh
gee,
they
built
a
road
here
and
they
did
this
here
and
they
did
that
there.
You
know
the
I
don't
mean
me,
I'm
saying
we
I
mean
the
right.
The
council
that
we
appoint
would
not
be
doing
that
physically,
going
out
and
inspecting
everything.
J
F
Council
president,
that
is
accurate.
The
point
is
I
apologize,
my
I
misinterpreted
what
the
attorney
had
represented
to
me.
You
just
appoint
two
people.
They
do
not
need
to
be
a
member
of
your
body,
but
those
two
people,
two
mayoral
oral
appointees
and
one
planning
commission
appointee,
then
have
to
pick
two
residents.
B
B
D
F
And
so
what
the
person
who
is
putting
this
together
indicated
to
me
today
is
that
that
the
council
inspects
the
properties
but
not
doesn't
have
to
do
in
person.
F
D
It
that's
that
was
my
point
a
while
ago.
That's
that's
the
way
I
understood
it
also,
and,
and
also
I
see
where
that
council
housing
council,
that
is
being
appointed,
has
to
provide,
by
march
31st
of
every
year
an
inspection
report
to
the
to
the.
D
So
I
would
assume
that
this
council
will
also
develop
that
inspector
report
from
as
robert
stated
from
whoever
goes
out
and
physically
inspects
everything
and
makes
sure
paperwork
and
everything
is
done,
and
then
someone,
I
don't
know
who
maybe
there'll
be
a
secretary
treasurer
of
that
housing
council.
But
someone
will
have
to
compose
that
development
report
now
whether
our
administration
would
do
that
and
hand
it
over
to
the
housing
council.
D
C
F
Guess
that's:
why
there's
a
sense
of
urgency
to
this
because-
and
you
know
normally,
I
don't
ask
for
waiver
unless
it's
an
absolute
necessity,
but
we
we
have
to
have
this
housing
board
has
to
meet
the
first
week
of
march,
find
two
members
to
appoint
from
the
community,
and
then
we
need
again
to
confirm
the
information
we
have
and
mr
tiles,
it
was
correct
that
in
2015
this
was
supposed
to
happen.
So
we
have
to
go
back
and
collect
all
that
information
and
do
it
the
proper
way.
F
E
E
E
If
somebody
wants
to
join
this
council,
then
somebody
can
resign
and-
and
the
resident
can
certainly
be
appointed
I
would
assume,
but
since
there
is
some
urgency
to
this,
it
seems
to
me
that
the
easiest
thing
to
do
would
be
just
to
appoint
two
members
of
council.
G
And
we
also
need
the
appointments
of
the
mayor.
That's
part
of
this
resolution.
B
Oh,
I
would
think
that
members
of
the
planning
and
development
committee
would
be
the
logical
core
choices
over
personnel
and
rules,
myself
kind
of
goes
hand
in
hand.
There.
G
I
was
thinking
maybe
planning
and
finance.
G
D
I
D
E
D
B
E
E
D
D
G
All
right,
so
we
have
joe
and
jack
from
city
council.
Do
we
know
what
the
mayor's
appointments
are.
F
I
didn't
realize
the
mayor's
appointments
were
part
of
this.
I
will
he
and
I
will
confer
and
have
something
on
the
council
by
them.
G
All
right,
given
that,
unless
we
have
any
other
questions,
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
move
this
forward?
For
the
first
read
and
at
the
beginning
of
next
week's
meeting,
then
you
can
provide
the
names
of
the
mayor's
appointments
and
we
can
fill
that
in
before
we
have
a
first
read.
D
Get
going
I
just
want
to
suggest,
maybe
we
should
get
a
hold
of
the
planning
commission.
I
know
they're
going
to
consider
this
according
to
their
agenda,
but
I
would
suggest
that
they
are
that
they
understand
that
they
need
between
now
and
their
meeting.
They
should
come
up
with
somebody
to
be
their
their
appointees.
D
F
When
I,
when
I
sent
that
over
to
shannon
to
put
on
the
planning
commission
prior
to
doing
that,
I
had
sent
it
to
the
commission
just
the
resolution
and
asked
them
to
prepare
a
name
for
a
nomination
at
that
meeting
so
that
they
could
move
it
along.
So
they
should
be
well
prepared
in
order
to
provide
someone
to
the
housing
council.
F
F
G
Right
all
right,
any
other
questions
on
this
one
joe.
Were
you
good
with
it
or
were
you
just
being
nice.
E
G
Right
boy,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
add
the
housing
council
resolution
to
next
week's
agenda.
E
G
Thank
you,
mr
president,
as
we
discussed
just
kind
of
open
this
up
to
the
floor
best
way,
probably
is
to
go
right
in
order,
starting
out
with
the
re
read
state
chapter,
14,
96
of
the
codified
ordinances
and
repealing
section
660.14
and
chapter
1498
of
the
codified
ordinances.
B
Can
ask
a
question:
yes
sure,
okay,
it
looks
like
we're
proposing
and
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
just
taking
over
this
maintenance
code
that
comes
at
this
general
packet.
Whatever
you
call
this
thing,
the
ipmc
would
that
be
correct.
B
Okay,
well,
currently
we're
kind
of
using
part
of
this
for,
like
the
the
electrical
and
the
plumbing,
that's
correct,
correct
and
I
think
the
other
area,
and
basically
our
own
housing
and
maintenance
things
they're
all
that's
on
us
through
our
okay.
Well,
I
guess
my
question
would
be
if
we
adopt
this
and
then
we
would
be
under
this
general
rules
and
regulations
once
we're
in
it.
Can
we
get
out
of
it.
H
I'm
not
sure
that
you'd
really
want
to,
but
I'd
have
to
see
some
specifics,
but
I
tore
into
this
pretty
well
with
an
an
architect
yesterday,
who's
very
familiar
with
this
and
also
teaches
architecture.
This
is
developed
by
the
organizations
of
architecture
and
home
builders,
and
it's
been
a
standard
that
is
being
used
in
many
of
the
other
parts
of
state
and
the
state
builders
association
is
trying
to
the
state
of
ohio
is
trying
to
standardize
this
throughout
ohio.
So
there's
no
more
of
the
local
codes.
H
My
concern
is
twofold:
one:
if
we
don't
adopt
it
and
we
rely
on
some
older
codes
that
have
never
changed
or
just
that
we
developed
many
years
ago,
were
not
really
updated,
and
if
there
would
be
a
problem
we
couldn't,
we
wouldn't
really
have
a
leg
to
stand
on.
We
might
end
up
being
liable.
I
don't
know
mr
mr
fowler
might
have
a
take
on
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
wise
for
us
to
bring
up
to
speed.
H
H
H
It's
not
cherry,
picked
and
put
into
a
local
code
that
doesn't
really
have
bearing
in
the
state,
and
it
brings
it
up
to
date.
So
it's
the
most
current
now
it's
designed
in
2017
and
it
was
adopted
in
2018
they're
due
to
redo
them
every
three
years.
So
if
we
adopt
the
code,
I
believe
it's
due
to
be
updated
next
year
anyway,
but
it
would
follow
into
the
most
current
codes.
So
can
you
go
backwards?
H
That's
a
legal
question
probably
have
to
ask
justin,
but
I've
looked
into
it
about
as
carefully
as
I
could
and
it
seemed
to
be
very
balanced
again.
It
was
designed
by
builders
and
architects
who
do
this
for
a
living
and
it's
what
the
state
of
ohio
is
trying
to
move
towards,
and
this
came
to
me
by
the
way
of
that
architect
who
worked
for
nasa
for
most
of
his
career
and
taught
architecture
in
northeast
ohio.
E
E
So
my
belief
is:
is
that
in
the
future
we
could
change
all
or
any
portion
of
this
if
we
wanted
to
as
the
city
my
thought
is,
is
that
the
state
of
ohio
and
the
various
experts
have
put
this
together
and
they
certainly
have
a
lot
more
knowledge
about
this
area
than
I
do
I
mean
you
know
I
read
through
this
thing.
I
I
understood
the
general
gist
of
what
was
going
on.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
be
part
of
something
that
is
formalized
and
the
same
throughout
the
state.
E
I
think
that's
a
good
idea,
I
mean,
but
I
think
in
direct
answer,
your
question
charlotte
without
jumping
into
justin's
shoes,
because
that's
not
what
I'm
intending
to
do
here.
I
think
council
could
always
repeal
it
or
change
it
if
they
wanted
to.
I
think
that's
just
it's
just
an
ordinance
that
we
are
adopting
to
replace
our
current
code.
D
If,
if
I
could,
mr
president,
yes
go
on
jack,
just
to
sort
of
clarify
what
has
been
said.
D
This
is
set
up
in
such
a
way
if
you'll
read
through
this
pretty
good,
it's
set
up
where
every
year
it's
going
to
be
updated
to
the
present
code.
That's
in
existence
for
the
international
housing
code.
It
will
be
updated
every
year,
we're
not
just
adopting
2018
we're
adopting
2021,
which
is
already
in
place.
If
you
go
online,
you'll
see
that
it's
already
there,
so
so
everything
that
that
is
in
the
2021
code
will
also
be
in
our
code
because
we're
adopting
the
entire
code.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
really
good
things
in
this.
In
this
code,
in
the
international
property
maintenance
code
that
we've
needed
for
years,
they're
in
there,
it
gives
us
some
teeth
to
to
enforce
things
that
we
really
haven't
had
the
enforcement
to
do
it.
D
I
could
go
over
several
of
them,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
all
of
them,
but
I
know
of
I
know
of
three
properties
right
off
hand
that
we've
had
problems
with
two
of
them
on
was
worth
road
and
one
of
them
on
gene
lane
and
from
the
way
I
read
this
code
and
I
think
bill's
here
he
would
agree
with
me.
I
think
he's
read
it
the
same
way.
D
D
D
This
way,
one
person
around
one
corner
can't
say
he
was
treated
in
one
way
and
the
other
one
can
say
he
was
treated
another
way,
because
this
spells
it
out
exactly
what
should
be
done
and
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I'm
sure
bill's
gonna
follow
the
code
exactly
and
that's
the
way
it
should
be
it.
It
lists
all
kinds
of
things
that
that
that
there's
been
questions
on
in
the
past.
D
D
If
you'll
follow
the
red
lining,
that's
actually
been
eliminated,
not
amended
and
we'll
we
will
be
using
other
other
codes
to
replace
it.
D
There
are
provisions
where
the
administrative
officer
such
as
mr
fowler
or
can
or
the
rest
of
the
administration,
the
mayor,
whoever
can
appoint
an
inspector
to
go
out
and
if
there's
any
question
whatsoever
about
our
zoning
inspector's
opinion
on
a
piece
of
property.
D
We
have
the
right,
under
this
code,
to
employ
a
separate,
independent
inspector
to
go
out
and
verify
their
findings
or
mix
their
findings,
and
that
inspector's
report
then
will
be
part
of
the
proceedings
against
a
property
owner
or
whoever
it
is.
It's
that's
being
looked
at
and
hopefully
I'm
sure
our
zoning
inspector
is
very
knowledgeable.
So
I'm
sure
he
knows
what's
good
and
what's
bad.
There
are
provisions
in
here
where,
which
is
one
property.
D
I
have
in
mind
that
I'm
almost
100
certain
there
are
it's
a
fire
hazard
and
that
property
has
the
right
then
to
enter
the
premises,
inspect
it
for
fire
it
deficiencies
and
and
move
against
it
for
a
fire
hazard.
D
D
So
I'm
a
hundred
percent
behind
this
and
there's
just
a
few
questions
that
need
answered
as
we
go
along
looking
it
over
and
I
have
them
outlined
here
and
when,
when
scott
gets
to
it,
I'll
run
my
mouth
again
but
right
now.
If
anybody
else
has
something
they
might
want
to
jump
in.
B
My
issues
were
given
up
to
me:
we're
giving
up
sovereignty
that
we
are
currently
enjoying
because
we're
a
chartered
city
so
once
we
do
this
and
we're
in
the
same
boat
as
everybody
else
throughout
the
state,
that's
also
involved
in
this.
It's
also
my
understanding
that
a
lot
of
things
didn't
get
done
here
that
should
have
been
moved
on
and
taken
care
of,
because
it
was
due
to
a
financial
issue
that
placed
the
burden
upon
the
city
financially
in
order
to
move
forward.
B
B
D
There
are
provisions
for
who
pays
for
what
it
it
covers
that
extensively
as
the
steps
to
recoup
any
any
funding
that
the
city
advances
to
say
for
an
example,
tear
down
a
building
to
abet
the
abate,
the
asbestos
that's
in
it
all
of
those
expenses
can
be
recouped
from
the
the
tax
duplicate
it's
all
outlined
in
here.
D
How
they
go
about
doing
that
also
a
person
once
he's
cited
once
the
person
is
cited
for
all
these
infractions,
they
can
no
longer
sell
that
property
until
those
infractions
have
been
corrected.
D
So
you
know,
so
they
can't
just
like
for
an
example,
if
I
own
a
piece
of
property
and-
and
I'm
excited
for
a
lot
of
things
wrong
with
that
property,
I
can't
just
sign
it
over
to
my
brother
and
say:
okay
brother,
you
take
care
of
it
and
then
they'd
have
to
go
through
the
process
again,
whereas
under
this
international
property
maintenance
code
that
can't
be
done-
it's
it's
listed
in
here,
specifically
that
they
cannot
transfer
ownership
until
all
these
items
have
been
taken.
D
D
H
For
the
city,
I
don't
think
we're
relinquishing
a
whole
lot
here
as
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
as
current
as
possible,
basing
bill's
work
and
his
ability
to
do
his
job
on
old
code
is
probably
a
worse
idea
than
being
up
to
date.
H
I
was
going
to
also
bring
forward
some
ideas
that
aren't
really
part
of
this,
but
they
might
end
up
being
something
of
value
to
us.
So
I
looked
into
the
city
of
lakewood
and
just
as
an
idea,
they
have
applied
for
and
been
given
some
block
grants
so
that
they,
nobody
in
the
city
that
can't
afford
to
let's
say
paint
their
house
exterior
house.
H
Nobody
pays
for
paint.
Basically,
they've
got
a
grant
that
pays
for
that,
and
they
can
get
help
doing
that.
That
type
of
thing,
if
they
don't
have
the
money
city
of
medina,
hired
a
consultant
group
back
in
the
early
1970s
and
they
made
massive
changes
to
the
city
based
on
their
work.
So
medina
wasn't
exactly
always
the
glitzy
and
very
busy,
but
little
metropolis
that
what
is
now,
but
it
was
a
kind
of
a
dirty
little
town,
not
in
a
bad
way.
Just
it
was
falling
apart.
H
It
was
aging,
and
so
this
is
one
of
the
things
putting
in
place
is
to
be
able
to
have
a
way
to
kind
of
keep
the
neighborhood
better
kept.
One
of
the
problems
that
I
heard
are
complaints
that
I
heard
when
we
talked
about
brookside,
now
fair
or
not
fair,
ryan
holmes.
Whatever
the
quality
of
his
complaints,
I
was
I
was
hearing
against
them
was
that
they
might
do
shoddy
work
and
it
would
fall
apart
in
time.
Well,
property
maintenance
code
would
apply
to
them
too,
so
that
would
require
them
to
maintain
certain
standards.
H
Now
those
standards
may
already
be
in
place
with
the
current
code.
I
don't
know,
but
I'd
rather
have
it
as
current
as
possible
and
with
teeth
for
bill.
So
there's
a
couple
ideas
in
there.
I
think
the
code
is
a
a
wise
move
to
go
forward
and
I
think
it
that
then
would
present
us
with
the
opportunity
to
apply
for
some
block
grants
to
do
some
specific
things
to
help
residents
because
they
might
be
required
and
again
most
of
what
we've
done.
H
What
we're
talking
about
aren't
really
things
that
are
anything
other
than
complaint
driven
we're
not
gonna
bill
is
not
gonna,
go
through
the
neighborhood
and
say:
aha,
you
don't
have
this
you're
two
inches
off
he's
not
gonna.
Do
that
the
this
is
all
complaint
driven,
and
so
I
think
it
gives
us
when
we
do
have
a
complaint
a
way
to
resolve
it.
G
And
dan
those
grants
summit
county
has
a
program
that
you
can
apply
for
now.
If
you
are
low-income,
can't
afford
something
and
that
those
grants
are
in
place
today
where
they
can
apply
right
through
summit
county.
G
I
have
known
people
to
get
upwards
of
five
thousand
dollars
to
redo
different
things
on
the
outside
of
their
homes,
put
new
windows
in
paint
new
porches
or
get
their
porches
up
to
date.
Things
like
that.
B
On
on
that
note
didn't-
and
I
could
I
don't
think,
I'm
mistaken
on
this,
but
it
seems
like
we
saw
an
ipac
or
something
that
we
had
signed
last
year.
I
believe
it
was
where
people
could
go
and
get
the
get
actual
loan
assessment
on
their
taxes
for
repairs,
the
home
and
stuff
didn't
we
do
you
guys
recall
that.
I
A
I
This
is
mayor
zeta.
If
I
may,
bye
last
year
or
so
ago,
we
had
holly
miller
from
cdbg
from
summit
county.
She
came
and
talked
about
some
of
those
programs
too.
I
believe
so
I
I
do
believe
they're
still
out
there
they're
available.
It's
just
yeah.
You
have
to
be
applied
for.
B
G
D
Bremen
I'll
have
to
have
your,
however,
call
you
back
bill.
A
D
J
I
generally
agree
with
what
miss
whippy's
saying
I
have
the
overall
basis
of
this,
I
think,
is
a
good
start,
but
I
do
have
pretty
big
concern
with
a
bureaucrat
in
some
unknown
city,
changing
norton's
codes
from
time
to
time
without
norton
having
a
hand
in
that
we're
responsible
to
our
voters,
and
I
think
it
needs
to
stay
that
way
to
where
we
can't
just
pass
it
off
to
someone
else
somewhere
else.
So
we
we're
not
even
sure.
G
B
Yeah
that
it
was
going
to,
I
believe,
that's
where
it
was
I'm.
E
G
E
D
D
I
think
if
something
comes
up
in
the
update
and
the
council
wants
to
change
it
once
they
discover
that
there's
a
problem,
then
you
could
always
back
up
and
and
change
that,
but
to
to
try
to
update
this
thing
every
year.
Ourself,
it's
a
nightmare,
that's
why
we
haven't
done
it
throughout
the
years
this.
This
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
have
a
standard
code
with
everybody
else
in
the
area
with
everybody
else
that
has
this
international
code.
It
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
have
it
updated
every
year,
according
to
scientific.
G
And
maybe
that's
the
way
just
you
know
if
there's
something
just
like
we
do
with
our
council
rules,
you
know
if
there's
something
that
somebody
feels
needs
addressed.
You
address
it
that
could.
G
Same
way,
but
just
before
we
go
before
we
go
further,
you
know
we
invited
bill
here,
and
people
have
been.
You
know
saying
that
bill
would
do
this
and
do
that,
and
I
just
figured
to
give
him
an
opportunity
to
talk
and
see
how
this
would
benefit
him
and
what
his
thoughts
are
on
it.
G
B
B
B
H
E
H
A
E
B
E
And
then
in
the
future,
if
you
know
if
administration
or
council
administration
came
to
us,
our
council
decided
we
wanted
to
update
it.
We
could
do
that
in
whole,
or
in
part
I
mean
so
I
I
think
I
don't
think
we
lose
to
speak
to
ms
whitfield,
mr
towsley's
concerns
and,
and
I
and
I
get
those
concerns
about
sovereignty
and
who
we
you
know
who
we
answer
to.
I
don't
think
we
lose
that
with
this
piece
of
legislation.
E
What
we're
doing
is
looking
at
this
particular
code
and
saying
this
is
or
this
is
not
good
for
the
city
we
adopt
this
or
don't
adopt
it.
Let's
say
we
do
adopt
it.
This
is
the
code
from
here
on
out.
Unless
and
until
we
would
change,
it
is
the
way
I
read
it.
B
Let's,
okay,
I
just
want
to
ask
him
this
direct
question
to
kind
of
straighten
out
my
head
a
little
bit,
and
maybe
he
can
answer
it.
Okay,
right
now
we
and
in
the
past,
we've
always
had
an
issue
with
like
somebody's
camping,
trailer
or
recreational
vehicle
being
in
the
driveway
and
we've
had
that
argument.
You
know
several
times
over
and
had
said
leave
them
there
so
long.
How
does
this
specifically
address
that
could?
K
K
To
share
well
and
again,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
talk.
I
think,
as
long
as
we
would
keep
this
simple-
and
I
know
it's
easy
for
me
to
say
this,
but
I
I
feel
you
guys
are
still
the
determining
factor
of
how
we
go
forward
just
because
we
have
this
code
in
in
place.
Doesn't
necessarily
you
know
change
anything.
K
I
would
still
like
to
believe
that
it's
going
to
be
complaint,
driven
that
that
we're
still
going
to
deal
with
people
with
respect
and
time-
and
these
are
just
this
code-
is
just
some
more
tools
in
that
toolbox.
K
I
and
moving
forward
whether
you
know
you
when
the
next
guy
that
comes
in
here,
you
know,
hopefully
you
guys
can
portray
that
feeling
as
you
move
forward.
I
these
this
is
a
minimum
standard
that
everybody's
just
upheld.
We
have
parts
of
it
in
our
exterior
maintenance.
Now
it
just
isn't
complete.
G
All
right
well
as
long
as
you're
here
bill.
Thank
you
for
the
job
that
you
do.
I've
heard
nothing
but
good
things
back
from
people
that
you've
dealt
with
and
how
diplomatic
you
are,
how
personable
you
are
and
easy
to
talk
to
and
get
things
resolved
that
you
don't
go
in
and
just
try
to.
You
know
well
you're
supposed
to
be
doing
this,
and
this
is
the
way
it's
gotta,
be
you
work
with
the
residents,
and
I
know
they
are
very
appreciative
for
what
you
do
and
thank
you.
K
Well,
you're
very
welcome,
and
it's
it's
a
pleasure.
I
mean
sometimes
they're
challenging,
but
I
learned
that
you're
probably
really
not
going
to
get
anywhere.
If
you
go
in
with
an
attitude,
love
of
not
being
able
to
be
understanding-
and
you
know
some-
a
lot
of
these
situations
just
come
down
to
money
for
people
of
not
being
able
to
do
things
the
correct
way.
So
you
know
I
understand
that
not.
A
K
I
I
believe
jack
touched
on
it
every
three
years
there
they
adopted
a
new
one.
It's
this,
I
I
thought
this
was
the
latest.
It
carries
on
you
know
each
year,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
this
2018
has
been
challenged
legally
and
all
the
bad
language
that's
been
in.
It's
been
taken
out.
This
is
the
same,
I
think
is
2015.
A
I
K
K
Well,
the
now
that
we,
you
know
since
we're
considering
this,
if
we
would
be
a
part
of
that
you
know
you,
I'm
a
member
of
the
icc,
so
any
changes
that
come
to
it
I
get
notification
of,
and
it
would
be
the
same
way
as
long
as
we
you
know,
keep
our
membership
with
them
that
you
know
each
year
we
can
get
a
new
book
and
there's
the
the
changes
are
very
minute.
E
K
E
You
are
correct,
okay,
so,
as
we
go
through
this-
and
I
look
through
this-
I
see
85
of
this
to
90
percent
of
it's
exactly
the
same,
probably
as
the
last
version.
I
do
see
that
there's
some
there's
a
whole
section
in
fire
safety
requirements
that
has
been
updated
and
changed,
but
other
than
that
it's
minimal
changes.
K
D
Maybe
there
is
an
updated
one
already
2021
I've
seen
it
and,
as
it's
updated
like
he
said,
I'm
sure
that
he'll
be
able
to
tell
us
which
ones
have
been
changed
and
which
one
haven't.
But
I
very
few
updates
that
I've
seen
that
I
could
find
that
was
changed.
I
mean.
E
I
don't
know
that
every
time
a
new
update
comes
out
of
this
thing,
that
we
have
to
hurry
up
and
and
change
it
ourselves,
because,
first
of
all,
the
changes
tend
to
be
somewhat
minor,
except
in
those
areas
that
bill
talked
about,
so
that
you
know
I
mean
we
can
take
a
look
at
them
or
a
future
council
can
take
a
look
at
them,
but
I
mean
I
they're
probably
going
to
be
somewhat
minor.
J
Mr
brandman,
this
is
paul
towsley.
I've
got
a
question
for
you.
If
you
don't
mind,
yes,
yes,
sir,
do
you
have
the
code
in
front
of
you?
I
do
in
the
scope
and
administration
a104.3
it
talks
about
right
of
entry.
J
J
Basically,
my
concern
is,
I
don't
want
to
give
an
employee
of
norton
permission
to
just
enter
my
my
neighbor's
house.
I
I
just
wonder
what
that
exactly
means.
K
Well,
this
this
may
I'm
just
skimming
over
it
and,
I
think,
probably
the
short
story
of
it
is
that,
probably
whenever
there
would
be
a
danger
to
a
structure?
Okay,
it
gives
the
right
for
the
code
official
to
enter,
but
you
have
to
go
back
to
the
the
proper
steps
that
need
to
take
place
first,
which
would
be
notice.
K
There's
a
lot
of
notice,
things
that
you
have
to
do,
and
some
indications
or
some
situations
you
have
to
actually
have
a
search
warrant
to
go
so
they're,
not
letting
just
any
any
person
go
code,
official
or
not
into
someone's
home.
It
would
be
the
same
way
as
you
know,
for
law
enforcement,
so
it
that
may
say
right
of
entry
of
being
able
to
give
permission
for
the
code
official
to
enter.
E
Paul,
if,
if
I
may
jump
in
I'm
sorry
bill,
I
didn't
mean
to
catch
off
but
paul.
If
you
look
in
there,
it
does
indicate
the
code
official
is
authorized
to
enter
the
structure
of
premises
at
reasonable
times
to
inspect
or
perform
the
duties
imposed,
provided
that
if
such
structure
premises
is
occupied,
the
code
official
shall
present
credentials
to
the
occupant
and
request
entry.
E
If
entry
is
refused,
then
you
jump
down
to
the
last
sentence.
It
says
if
entry
is
refused,
the
code
official
shall
have
recourse
to
the
remedies
provided
by
law
to
secure
entry,
which
I
would
imagine
would
be.
You
need
to
go
and
get
a
an
order
from
the
court
or
something
in
order
to
gain
entry.
So
I
I
believe,
constitutionally
and
by
statute
state
of
ohio
code,
the
code
official,
the
the
code
official,
can't
just
walk
up
and
say
I'm
coming
in
okay
yeah,
you
got
you
got
real
problems.
If
that
happens,.
E
J
E
I
am
listen.
I
am
thinking
that
if
somebody
forces
their
way
into
a
residence
home,
I'd
be
the
first
one
with
you
into
saying
that
they
should
no
longer
be
the
code
official,
okay,.
J
I
guess
I
got
another
question
if,
if
I
can
and
again
this
would
probably
be
for
mr
bremen
on
chapter
three
general
requirements-
it
talks
about
motor
vehicles
and
302.8.
and
it's
a
a
bit
more
restrictive
than
norton
zoning
code
on
vehicles,
which
one
would
we
use
like.
I,
I
think
our
current
one
says
you
the.
If
you
don't
have
a
running
vehicle,
it's
got
to
be
in
the
backyard
or
something
to
that
extent
where
this
doesn't
give
that.
K
This
basic,
this
basic
language-
that's
under
this
code,
would
probably
be
the
same
as
you
would
go
when
you
look
to
under
parking
restrictions.
It
talks
about
once
one
specific
part
of
that
unlicensed
vehicles
is
another
and
junk
motor
vehicles
is
another
code,
so
technically
in
our
zoning
code
and
general
offenses
covers
all
what
that
says.
J
K
No,
we
still.
We
have
that.
So
there's
really
no,
no
change
in
that.
If,
under
the
junk
motor
vehicle,
you
have
to
meet
some
requirements,
which
you
guys
pass
legislation,
I
believe
last
year
on
on
some
on
the
junk
motor
vehicles,
we've
always
had
unlicensed
vehicles,
you
know
need
to
be
covered
or
not
covered,
but
in
undercover
like
in
a
garage.
G
And
again,
if
you
have
questions,
you
know
feel
free
to
email,
the
administration
or
mr
bremen,
and
we
can
always
address
them
at
the
the
next
work
session.
Other
questions
or
concerns
on
this.
J
J
Insect
screens,
are
we
really
going
to
force
people
to
have
screens
in
their
windows?
I
mean:
is
that
really
something's
important
to
the
city
of
norton?
I.
K
Other
than
your
kids
I'll
give
you
an
interesting
scenario
there.
Mr
towsley,
it's
funny
that
you
brought
that
up,
because
when
I
went
for
the
certification
for
this,
that
was
actually
brought
up,
and
I
think
where
that
probably
comes
into
play,
is
I'm
a
parent
of
two
children
and
I
rent
from
mr
towsley,
mr
tonsley.
K
K
G
That
and-
and
I
take
this
more
as
almost
a
commercial,
where
food's
involved
the
way
the
way
it
reads-
talks
about
required,
ventilation
for
habitable
rooms,
food
preparation,
areas,
food
service
areas
or
any
areas
where
products
to
be
included
or
utilized
in
food
for
human
consumption.
G
So
I
really
take
that
meaning
pertaining
more
to
areas
where
food
is
going
to
be
made
up
for
human
consumption.
H
I
was
taking
that
just
about
the
same,
but
I
was
thinking
in
the
sense
of
a
landlord
who
was
going
cheap
and
wasn't
providing
something
protection
for
food
service
areas
where
flies
could
get
into
food
and
lay
eggs,
and
things
like
that,
whereas
the
renter
needs
protection
from
that
type
of
of
situation,
it
would
give
them
a
basis
for
saying
hey.
You
know
landlord
provide
us
with
some
screens,
because
my
family
is
unprotected.
D
That's
that's
one
reason
landlord
tenant
controversies
over
screens,
but
also
if
people
remember
we've
had
some
instances
and
high-rises.
We
don't
have
any
at
the
time
at
this
time,
but
we
might
have
tomorrow.
I
wish
we
would
have
some
senior
citizen
high-rises,
but
when
you
have
small
children
in
a
high-rise
and
they
have
no
screens
and
no
protection
on
the
tenth
floor,
we've
had
them
fall
out
and
actually
kill
themselves
in
high-rises
in
akron.
D
We're
passing
disease
with
these
mosquitoes
and
flies
and
everything
so
there
has
to
be
always
things
that
are
covered
that
are
not
always
enforced,
of
course,
nobody's
going
to
go
around
looking
for
these
stupid
things.
Who
cares
if
you've
got
a
screen?
The
neighbor's
got
a
screen
in
these
windows.
Nobody
cares,
but
he
does
care
if
you're
the
neighbor
and
you
don't
own
the
place
and
you're
paying
rent
and
you
don't
have
any
screens
in
the
windows
and
no
air
conditioning.
D
E
I
think
I
I
think
one
of
the
ways
that
at
least
I
look
at
this
is-
is
that
it's
a
tool
for
bill
in
this
case
to
use,
but
certainly
it's
not
one
of
those
things
that,
as
everybody
has
said
and
I'll
say
it
again,
he's
not
going
to
be
driving
up
and
down
the
roads
looking
to
see
who's
got
screens
in
his
windows
because,
frankly,
he
doesn't
have
time
to
do
it.
E
E
If
he
gets
a
call
from
a
renter,
though,
who
says,
look
I've
I've
got
two
small
children
and
the
upstairs
windows
don't
have
screens
on
them
and
I've
contacted
the
landlord
and
he
won't
put
screens
in
then
bill
can
go
to
the
landlord
and
say
I'm
going
to
cite
you
unless
you
put
screens
in
and
suddenly
those
kids
are
a
little
more
safe
exactly
so
it's
it's
a
tool
to
use.
It's
not
a
bludgeon
to
hammer
people
with.
H
B
B
Have
a
question
me
go
ahead:
okay,
thank
you.
We
keep
talking
about
renters
and
landlords,
but
isn't
there
a
section
of
law
that
already
handles
that.
B
Well,
I
would
think
that,
just
if
it's
not
in
our
code,
then
it
would
then
the
revised
code
would
kick
in
anyway.
Wouldn't
it.
E
B
E
Where,
in
this
instance,
we
have
a
tool
that
the
local,
the
local
enforcement
officer
would
be
able
to
go
to
the
landlord
directly
and
say,
look
here's
what
you
need
to
do.
I
I
think
it's
just
another
tool,
but
you're
right
there
are.
There
are
other
remedies.
They
just
aren't
always
practical
for
a
person
to
use.
K
Absolutely
if
and
if
I
could
add
one
one
thing
to
this,
I
think
one
thing
that
strikes
me,
the
probably
the
most
impressive
out
of
the
whole
code
is
yeah.
There's
there's
things
about
property
maintenance,
the
do's
and
don'ts,
and
all
that
other
good
stuff.
But
it's
very
thorough
on
the
appeal
process.
I
think
it's
very.
K
J
I
think
that's
it
for
now
and
I
I
appreciate
the
discussion
because,
honestly
I
was
looking
at
it
from
a
homeowner's
point
of
view,
not
as
much
a
runner's
point
of
view,
so
it
was.
It
was
good
to
hear
that
other
side
of
it
and-
and
I
do
appreciate
mr
bremen's
opinion,
because
I
know
I
know
what
his
thinking
is
when
he's
going
out
he's
not
trying
to
to
get
people
so
yeah,
you
know
knowing
he's
behind
it
does
help
my
thinking
quite
a
bit.
B
K
D
K
D
G
G
All
right:
well,
this
is
already
on
the
agenda,
so
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
you,
mr
president.
Well,
I
guess.
A
G
E
A
A
All
right,
then,
no,
no
one
else
has
any
other
questions.
A
Okay,
then
any
other
topics
for
next
work
session,
tuesday
february
16th,
none
okay,
super
all
right.
Then,
if
there's
no
other
business
to
come
before
console
this
meeting
will
be
adjourned.
The
time
is
8
10.
see
you
guys.