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Well,
somebody
must
be
somebody
else
must
be
on
there
besides
us
then.
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C
I
put
carpet
down
today
in
council
chambers.
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D
Yeah,
I
wasn't
sure
here
my
I'm
using
my
wife's
computer
and
it
was
loading
up
real,
slow
glad.
I
made
it
on
it's.
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D
Only
the
old
kids
in
in
norton
high
school
norton
middle
school
norton
elementary
right,
john.
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E
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F
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F
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D
F
I
did
send
everyone
an
email
with
jason's
report
jason
is
on
here
somewhere.
Where
are
you
jason?
You
have
a
bright
light,
looks
like
you're
like
heading
to
somewhere
over
your
left.
Shoulder
I
mean
it's
bright.
F
All
right,
let's
get
well,
I
don't
hear
from
joe
kearney.
So
let's
get
started
and
I'm
going
to
find
your
first
thing.
We
have
to
do
on
the
agenda.
B
F
Correct
yes,
this
will
be
our
only
meeting
of
the
year.
We
will
meet
every
march
just
to
kind
of
give
everyone
a
kind
of
an
understanding.
This
should
have
been.
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F
Right,
the
housing
council
is
supposed
to
meet
annually
to
review
the
tax
payments
you'll
see.
If
you
read
what
I
sent
over
earlier,
the
there's
only
one
that
we're
reviewing
right
now
next
year,
we'll
have
three
jason.
G
Assuming
that
condor
welding
is,
does
move
forward
with
construction
this
year
and
assuming
that
council
is
in
agreement
with
amending
the
their
cra,
because
again,
that's
the
one
that
that
the
time
frame
to
build
their
building
is
expired.
So
if
they
move
forward,
we'll
have
to
go
back
and
amend
that.
But
if
they
move
forward,
we
would
have
three
new
this
year.
If
they
don't,
we
would
have
to.
F
When
would
the
council
approve
pettit,
auto
wash
last
night.
G
Yeah,
so
if
they
are
and
and
refresh
my
memory,
robert,
we
did
a
cra
on
the
building
on
eastern,
but
not
the
correct
other
one
correct
right.
We
did
a
tiff
on
both
of
those
okay.
So
with
with
that
cra,
assuming
that
they
are
under
construction
this
year
and
been
completed
this
year,
then
we
would
also
review
them,
assuming
that
the
auditor's
office
picks
up
the
tax
valuation.
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C
F
G
Thank
you
robert.
Fortunately,
we
don't
need
to
take
a
tremendous
amount
of
time,
because
the
housing
council
essentially
has
two
purposes
under
the
ohio
revised
code.
The
the
first
is
what
we
will
do
tonight
and
that
is
going
to
be
to
review
the
any
property
that
has
a
an
exemption
with
that
is
within
the
cra
which
the
cra
area
is
the
same
boundary
as
the
the
entire
city
of
norton.
G
You
all
basically
review
the
status
of
each
one
of
the
properties
that
have
an
exemption.
As
robert
indicated,
one
currently
is
subject
to
an
exemption.
The
other
three
two
are
not
yet
under
construction.
G
G
So
that
leaves
us
only
with
the
one
we're
going
to
review
this
evening
and
then
the
other
purpose
of
the
housing
council
is
to
hear
any
appeals
from
any
pertinent
decisions
that
robert
may
make
as
the
housing
officer.
Now,
quite
frankly,
because
we
don't
have
a
residential
cra.
G
Given
the
fact
that
the
city
has
a
commercial
cra,
there's
likely
not
going
to
be
an
appeal,
maybe
ever,
but
certainly
there's
not
a
circumstance.
I
can
even
think
of
right
now,
where
robert
would
actually
make
a
decision,
probably
the
most
drastic.
One
would
be
that
if
the
someone
you
know
if,
for
some
reason,
a
cra
agreement
were
to
be
terminated
and
because
we
are
dealing
with
commercial
properties,
robert
does
not
have
the
authority
to
do
that
himself.
That
would
need
to
actually
go
to
city
council.
G
So
again
you
know
that
authority
is
technically
there,
but
it's
not
one
that
I
I
anticipate
will
ever
be
dealing
with.
So
with
that
that
is
essentially
the
those
are
the
powers
of
the
board
for
the
the
council.
B
If
I
could
then
jason
to
you,
I
guess
if
you'll
sort
of
explain
to
me,
how
does
how
does
it
affect
kda's
agreement
by
them,
leasing
out
their
building
to
another
entity
and
and
then
building
another
building
to
replace,
I
guess
their
business
they're
going
to
move
their
business
to
the
second
building?
If
that's
correct
robert,
I
think
how
does
that
affect
this
agreement
with
them
since.
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G
Certainly
so
the
the
the
way
that
the
cra
will
work
is,
as
you
know,
on
their
piece
of
property.
They
built
their
building.
I
think
it
was
16
2016
2017,
maybe
when
it
actually
was
completed,
and
they
have
an
agreement
with
the
city
that
that
in
lieu
of
the
abatement
they're
going
to
create
a
certain
number
of
jobs
and
under
their
agreement
it
was
25
jobs
in
the
first
24
months
that
the
business
was
going
to
be
in
operation.
G
I
know
from
filing
the
reports
that
they
have
not
reached
that
level.
We're
going
to
talk
here
in
a
minute
that
they're
actually
at
four
employees
the
tax
incentive
review
council,
which
is
another
body
that
is
going
to
meet
in
likely
in
the
summer
time
june
july,
they're
the
body
that
actually
will
make
a
recommendation
to
council
as
to
whether
or
not
to
continue
the
agreement
or
not.
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In
theory,
they
could
say
that
kda
has
not
met
its
obligations
under
the
agreement
and
therefore
they're
gonna
recommend
that
the
the
abatement,
the
agreement
be
terminated
and
then
city
council
would
get
legislation
following
that,
and
they
would
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
to
discontinue
that
agreement
or
not.
G
I
will
tell
you
that
by
and
large-
and
I
certainly
don't
want
to
tell
the
the
the
tax
inc-
the
tax
incentive
review
council
or
city
council-
how
to
do
their
job
by
and
large
if
a
business
is
either
not
met
their
threshold,
but
is
still
doing
okay
in
terms
of
creating
jobs,
creating
new
payroll,
their
current
on
their
other
taxes
or
in
this
situation,
is
still
using
the
property
for
a
commercial
purpose
where
it's
still
bringing
other
jobs
into
the
city.
G
Typically,
the
turk
and
the
council.
You
know
the
turk
would
recommend
continuation
and
the
council
typically
would
continue
the
agreement.
I
don't
want
to
hold
that.
That's
always
the
case,
and
certainly
if
a
business
closes
up
and
terminates
all
of
their
employees,
you
could
have
you
know
a
situation
where
that
agreement
is
no
longer
continued.
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G
50
of
the
improvement
is
actually
pulled
off
and
put
on
a
separate
tax
card,
so
I
apologize.
I
don't
remember
the
exact
amount
it's
553
000
in
change
was
pulled
out
and
if
you
actually
go
online
and
look
at
their
parcel,
you'll
see
that
that
valuation
sits
on
a
completely
separate
part
and
so
to
the
extent
they
move
forward,
they
build
a
new
building.
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G
I
think,
at
least
in
theory
would
be
on
a
different
parcel
from
the
one
where
their
current
building
is
located,
and
so
in
theory
they
could
come
to
the
city
and
they
could
ask
for
a
cra
abatement
for
that
new
building,
provided
it
is
on
a
different
parcel.
I'm
not
telling
you
they
will
do
that.
I'm
not
telling
you
that
the
administration
would
recommend
that
I'm
just
saying
in
theory,
as
they
do
put
other
buildings
on
different
parcels
that
could
come
into
play.
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B
Okay,
so
let
me
make
sure
I
understand
so
the
the
the
old
building
since
its
lease
to
a
new
company,
the
new
company,
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
cra.
That
was
originally
there
correct
that.
B
All
right
and
and
the
way
I
understand
it,
the
way
I
read
the
paperwork
on
that.
I
believe
it
was
40
jobs
that
was
present
in
the
kyoto
company.
I
believe
they're
coming
with
40
jobs
and
approximately
60
more
was
that
director
robert,
I
believe
60..
B
So
in
my
mind,
we
actually
are
better
off
by
leasing.
This
building
to
kyoto
is
better
off
for
the
city
and
probably
for
kda
to
lease
that
building,
since
they
evidently
didn't
have
the
production
necessary
to
maintain
their
job
capacity.
B
B
Yeah
exactly
so
so
I
I
would
say
that,
at
least
in
my
mind,
I
have
no
objections
whatsoever
to
that.
I,
I
think
it's
a
good
deal
all
the
way
around,
so
I
I
see
robert,
you
said
they
were
sending
or
maybe
jason's
email.
I
forget
which
one
you
would
be
back
billing,
though
kda
for
19
and
20
for
the
minimum
500.
B
G
Correct
that
is
correct.
The
and-
and
I
I
can't
tell
you
why,
sir
I
my
guess
is
that
there
was
some
delay
it
was
before
I
was
there
and
was
there
and
robert
was
there,
but
the
the
tax
abatement
should
have
started
in
2017,
for
whatever
reason
it
didn't
get
picked
up
for
until
tax
year
2018,
which
is
paid
in
19
in
tax
year
19,
which
is
paid
in
20..
So
they've
only
had
two
years
of
abatement,
which
is
where
that
that
the
two
500
annual
payments
come
from
again.
G
The
most
likely
scenario
I
can
tell
you
is
somebody
at
the
city
at
the
time
didn't
send
the
cra
agreement
until
maybe
a
year
later
than
it
should
have
been,
but
in
any
event,
that's
speculation
and
it
didn't
get
picked
up,
but
yeah
that
that's
that's
kind
of
where
they're
at
all.
B
Right
also,
as
you
I
don't
know,
I
think
you've
seen
my
questions,
because
you
that
I
sent
also,
I
read
the
way
I
read
it.
There
was
supposed
to
be,
and
I
assume
it's
going
to
happen-
a
special
account
set
up
to
contain
that
500
or
the
amounts
whatever
they
might
be
per
year.
B
I
I
don't
believe
at
least
I
haven't
read
or
seen
anything.
I
don't
believe
we
have
those
accounts
that
account
set
up
pam.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct
all
right,
so
you
would
be
setting
up
an
account
as
required
and
that
money
will
be
forthcoming
to
that
account
from
now
on
whatever
amount
it
is,
and
I
believe,
jason.
You
said
that
there's
no
longer
a
personal
property
tax,
so
the
whatever
number
it
was
that
required
that
reports
every
year
is
no
longer
necessary.
Correct.
B
G
Yeah
yeah
and
in
terms
of
the
fees,
I
would
tell
you
with
everyone
other
than
clinton
aluminum
we're
likely
to
be
at
that
500
amount.
Clinton
aluminum
will
be
of
such
a
size
that
they'll
be
more
than
500.
They
may
even
cap
out
at
the
2500
max.
G
I
believe
it
can
be
used
for
the
administration
of
the
cra
program
itself
and
then
I
believe
after
the
cra
that
the
money
is
tied
to
is
done.
Then
I
I'm
pretty
sure
it
flows
over
to
the
general
fund
of
the
city.
B
I
read
something
where
it
said.
If
I
remember
right,
it
was
for
the
administration,
like
you,
said,
of
the
cra
plus
the
housing
council,
whatever
it
takes
to
run
the
housing
council
yep
expenses
involved
with
that,
is
that
correct.
G
B
G
B
D
I
guess
I
had
a
couple
when
I
read
what
the
state
code
says
and
I,
when
it
says
50
abatement,
does
that
mean
50
of
real
estate
taxes
that
is
correct,
sir
okay,
so
the
school
and
the
city
and
summer
county
nobody
would
get
get
fifty
percent,
otherwise
the
school
lose.
Fifty
percent
of
theirs
and
and
whoever's
out
house
is
not
there.
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
that's
mrdd
and
library
and
everything
so
yeah,
and
then
I
think-
and
I
don't
I
don't
know
jack
whether
we
were
interpreting.
D
I
know
the
existing
building
has
a
I've.
I
actually
did
a
little
bit
of
trying
to
do
a
little
business
with
them
before
I
retired.
This
existing
building
has
a
lot
of
equipment
in
it.
I
was
assuming
that
the
addition
they're
making
now,
which
is
I'm
going
to
say,
60
or
70
000
square
feet,
that
building
is,
is
who
this
other
subcontractor
is
going
to
go
into.
The
way
you're
saying
that
I
hadn't
heard
that
kda
was
going
to
move
into
the
new
building
and
let
them
have
the
old
ones.
Well,
that's.
B
That's
what
where
did
I
get
there,
robert
one
of
the
emails
or
something
I
forget,
that
yeah.
F
They
yeah
they
moved
into
the
existing
kda
structure.
They.
A
B
D
Okay,
they
got
some
big
equipment
there
as
far
as
you
know,
hbms
and
vbs.
I'm
surprised
that
maybe
david's
going
to
use
those-
and
you
know,
do
something
there
and
then
the
building
down
over
the
hill.
I
think
that's
on
a
separate
parcel,
but
that's
actually
like
a
thousand
square
foot
assembly.
Like
a
you
know,
assembly
for
parts
and
packaging
and
stuff
like
that.
I
think
it's
just
you
like
utility
building.
I
don't
think
it's
a
major
manufacturing
building
only
has
like
forced
parking
spaces.
D
G
D
G
He
I
think,
he's
going
to
use
that
for
storage.
I
think
he
may
move
his
office
to
that
building
as
well,
but
I'm
not
100
sure
about.
B
That
I
I
was
under
the
impression
I
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
originally
when
we
discussed
the
28th
street
extension,
I
was
under
the
impression
that
they
were
going
to
build
an
office
really
closer
to
28th
street
and
I
have
driven
up
that
driveway
and
looked
and
the
building
that
they
are
clearing
out
the
land
for
and
everything
looks
to
me
like
it's
a
lot
more
than
a
thousand
square
feet.
B
I
I
don't
know
I
haven't
seen
any
plans
ralph
on
planning
or
anything
on
that,
but
I
understood
it
to
be
an
office
originally,
but
that
was
before
this
came
about
with
kyoto.
I
think,
and
the
way
I
understood
it,
they
were
actually
going
to
have
a
manufacturing
facility.
Now
in
that
new
building
and.
C
B
D
There's
there's
actually
two
buildings:
there's
an
addition
on
the
existing
building,
like
I'm
gonna,
say
sixty
thousand
seventy
thousand
square
feet
and
then
there's
a
new
building
and
I'm
gonna
say
it's
only
a
thousand
or
fifteen
hundred
square
foot,
that's
to
the
north
and
down
the
closer
to
cleveland
maslin
and
its
access
to
this
driveway
is
a
driveway.
It's
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
property,
but
I
think
it
was
fairly
small.
I
don't.
D
That's
what
I
understand,
I
don't
know
whether.
B
Either
way
I
go
back
to
my
point:
was
they
they
have
several
employees
with
both
facilities?
No.
B
Company
it
is,
and
when
you
mentioned,
I
may
be
wrong
on
this
jason
or
robert
can
correct
me.
I
was
under
the
impression
that
that
50
percent
reduction
was
only
on
the
addition,
the
added.
B
What
am
I
trying
to
say
the
the
added
value
is
that
correct
robert,
it's
not
on
the
total
value
of
the
property.
It's
on
the
added
value
that
they
add
by
making
these
additions.
Isn't
that
correct,
jason.
G
Yep,
yes,
sir,
so
if
you
have
a
hundred
thousand
square
foot,
I'm
sorry
if
you
have
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
piece
of
land
and
you
put
a
million
dollar
building
on
the
land,
you
continue
to
pay
taxes
on
the
hundred
thousand
dollars,
as
as
you
always
would,
and
then
on
the
million
dollar
edition.
With
your
building
500
000,
you
would
pay
tax
on
and
500
000
would
be
abated.
B
Correct
that
that
was
the
idea
that
I
had
I
and
as
far
as
the
schools
is
concerned,
I
I
understood
that
that
that
they
would
be
receiving
the
total
amount
that
they
normally
would
have
received,
either
on
the
additional
value
of
the
property
or
on
the
original
value,
which
is
it
I.
I
thought
the
schools
were
not
shorted
in
any
way,
with
our
tax
reduction,
so.
G
It
depends
what
type
of
agreement
you
put
together
so
under
our
scenario,
so
using
our
example
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
piece
of
property
in
a
million
dollar
building,
the
schools
will
continue
to
get
everything
they
would
otherwise
get
for
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
500.
That
is
not
abated.
G
G
The
one
thing
that
I
will
tell
you
is
that
you
can
enter
into
a
compensation
agreement
to
make
a
payment
back
to
the
school,
to
keep
them
whole,
and
so,
for
example,
I
think
there's
a
partial
structure
like
that
in
place
for
clinton,
aluminum,
that
that
robert.
D
G
G
F
And
I
think,
mr
gainer,
I
think
the
one
thing
not
to
confuse
with
the
tiff
right
tips.
We
make
the
schools
whole,
they
don't
lose
any.
They
don't
lose
any
money
on
a
tif
but
cras,
depending
on
how
the
structure
will
be
that
they
would
see
a
reduction
in
what
they
would
have
normally
understood.
B
What
they
normally
would
have
received
on
his
scenario
of
a
million
dollar
increase,
but
they
would
still
receive
the
500
000
increase,
so
they
technically
they
are
still
receiving
more
money
than
they
would
have
if
the
company
would
not
have
built.
So
it
was
to
the
betterment
I
mean
it
was
to
the
the
schools
benefit
to
say.
Okay
with
this
anyway,
because
they're
going
to
be
getting
more
taxes
either
way
you
go.
That's
that's
the
only
point
I
was
trying
to
make.
I
you
know.
C
B
G
And
just
from
a
just
since
we're
kind
of
talking,
cra
basics,
the
any
abatement
up
to
50
and
up
to
15
years
does
not
require
school
district
approval.
Any
of
any
abatement
above
50
and
more
than
15
years
or
more
than
15
years
does
require
the
school
district
approval.
B
D
D
So
so
I
mean,
if
no
matter
what
we
do
here,
if
he's
going
to
lease
this
out,
we're
going
to
get
more
income
to
the
city
with
income
tax
and
stuff,
so
yeah
they're
definitely
a
benefit
there,
regardless
of
whether
he's
leasing
it
or
not,
they're
still
paying
the
city
income
tax,
and
I
I
like,
since
I'm
retired-
and
I
don't
really
have
theoretical
income
the
the
thing
with
the
school
system
with
their
you
know,
whatever
percentage
that
they
do
now.
That
only
applies
to
residents
of
norton
right,
not
if
you're.
F
D
Yeah,
I
didn't
see
any
problem
with
this
at
all
and
I
think
there's
a
potential,
for
you
know
more
opportunity
for
income
coming
to
the
city
once
he
completes
the
second
building
that
didn't
weather
addition
and
then
put
the
other
building
on
then
I
guess
theoretically,
he
could
come
back
and
ask
for
another.
You
know
relaxation
or
an
abatement
there,
but
those
are
really
separate
agreements.
I
assume.
G
Yeah
and
the
way
that
would
work
is
is,
it
would
have
to
be
in
a
different
parcel,
and
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
on
a
cra.
The
agreement
has
to
be
approved
by
city
council
and
enter
and
signed
by
everybody
before
construction,
be
they
can
move
dirt
around
on
the
site,
but
before
vertical.
So
so
everything
else
you
said
I
yeah,
you
are
correct.
Just
those
two
little
cop
cuts
so.
D
So
really,
in
the
case
of
the
existing
building,
with
the
addition
he's
limited
there,
because
I
think
it's
all
the
same
personal,
so
he
can't
do
anything
there
right
yeah,
because
I
I
think
I
go
past
my
the
gates
there,
so
I
can't
get
into
this
facility
without
calling
them.
But
I
know
that
it
looks
like
the
foundation.
At
least
the
block
is
in.
I
don't
know
if
bill
goes
up
there
very
often
or
not,
but
I
think
the
foundation
is
in
so.
G
That
he
has
a
cra
abatement
on
the
new
building.
Yeah
is,
I
mean
I've
talked
with
dave
two
dozen
times
in
the
last
six
months.
I
think
robert's
probably
talked
with
him
a
number
of
times
as
well.
He
calls
it
the
process
building
if
it's
the
same
building
we're
all
talking
about.
G
You
know,
you
know
where
he's
he's
indicated
that
a
cra
is
gonna,
apply
to
that
new
building
as
well
and
and
we've
had
just
general
discussions
about
if
he
does
build
future
buildings
cra
applying
so
I
mean
I
would
tell
you
he's
pretty
sophisticated
in
terms
of
a
business
owner
on
how
it
works.
So
you
know
again,
I
I
can't
conclusively
say
that
he
doesn't
think
it
applies
to
the
process
building,
but
he's
never
said
anything
to
me.
That's
indicated
he
thinks
it
does.
B
G
Yeah
the
the
reality
is,
the
code
is
actually
silent.
It
really
just
says
you
do
a
review.
It
doesn't
even
say
that
you
do
a
review
and
approve.
My
preference
would
be
to
do
an
approval,
because
if
I
were
on
the
tax
incentive
review
council,
one
of
my
questions
would
be.
What
did
the
housing
council
do
with
this?
So
I
think
just
a
simple
vote
to
approve
the
report
is:
is
sufficient.
D
Okay,
okay!
Well,
I
don't
really
have
anything
else.
I
mean
this
all
makes
sense
and
you
know,
like
you
say,
dave's
kind
of
a
interesting
business
man.
He
has
seemed
to
have
a
lot
of
background
and
you
know
a
lot
of
entrepreneur
type
stuff
going
on
and
you
know
I
think
he
knows
what's
going
on
and
he's
been,
you
know
I
think,
pretty
straightforward
in
the
stuff
I've
talked
to
him
about,
so
I
I
can't
see
that
there
isn't
anything
here
that
will
help
the
city.
D
You
know
make
us
or
help
financially.
You
know,
contribute
to
the
city,
so.
B
F
Well,
I
just
was
going
to
do
a
motion
like
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
and
then
those
opposed,
if
that's,
okay,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
signing.
I
I
those
opposed
same
sign
motion
carries
okay
and
I
think
I
think
that's
I'm
trying
to
pull
the
agenda
up
as
I'm
getting
emails
here.
I
think
that's
all
for
because
the
other
three
we're
not
going
to
review
tonight
so
otherwise,
I
think
that's
all
for
tonight.