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A
C
B
B
And
then
marion
actually
had
to
work
a
double
shift.
Somebody
didn't
show
up:
okay,
he's
still
out
driving
his
place.
B
Yeah
well,
he
does
like
home
delivery
of
food
to
certain
people
senior
citizens,
but
he
has
to
he's
working
over
in
youngstown
area.
So
he
has
to
drive
over
there
with
the
truck
drop
stuff
off
and
ride.
B
A
Either
of
you
heard
from
mr
conklin.
B
B
B
B
B
E
E
B
B
So
hopefully
she
got
that
so,
hey
john,
I
sent
you
an
email,
a
logo.
B
Some
stuff
on
fire
panels
and.
E
E
Yeah,
I
sent
ruth
a
message,
but
we
could
just
probably
well.
We
gotta
wait
for
ruth.
E
E
Yeah,
it's
on,
I
think
robert
logged
us
in
so
we
should
be
good.
E
E
E
F
I
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
I've
been
putting
an
addition
on
my
house
and
I've
been
messing
around
with
the
barberton
building
department
and
the
building
inspector,
but
I
was
wondering
for
all
the
units
that
are
being
built
at
the
golf
course
and
units
that
little
is
building
on
clark
mill.
E
B
Okay-
let's
see
here,
let
me
get
my
pcs
up
here.
B
Okay,
well,
I'm
going
to
call
the
meeting
of
the
planning
commission
together
for
may
11th
meeting
shannon.
Would
you
do
a
roll
call?
Please.
B
E
C
E
E
E
B
Okay,
next
item
is
older
old
business,
and
I
not
aware
of
any
unless
bill
or
mr
fowler
have
any
comments
or
anything.
I
think
we're
wrapped
up
on
what
we
have
and
we've
processed
all
our
applications
for
approval
that
we
had
from
the
last
meeting.
B
Okay,
okay,
okay
for
the
new
business,
we
have
two
applications.
The
first
one
is
pc
application,
spr,
seven
2021,
and
that
is
for
the
construction
of
two
pole
buildings
on
some
property
on
wadsworth
road
at
1904,
and
I
believe,
is
it
mario
halasa.
B
That's
right,
yeah,
okay,
it's
he's
presented
an
application
and
I
guess
would
you
like
to
talk
about
what
your
plans
are.
I
Yeah,
so
you
know,
we've
owned
the
property
for
a
while.
It's
you
know
right
there.
On
wiseworth
road,
I
I
mean
I
run
akron's
finest
mulch
on
copley
road.
I
We
have
a
lot
of
equipment,
I
have
a
boat
and
I
just
it
would
be
nice
to
to
store
some
stuff
over
here
and
right
now
the
properties
is
pretty
much
vacant.
I
have
a
topsoil
dome.
We
fixed
up
the
front
by
the
street,
we
kind
of
fenced
it
off.
We
kind
of
landscaped
it
by
the
street,
and
I
was
just
trying
to
turn
a
piece
of
property
that
I
had
into
a
more
usable,
better,
looking
piece
of
property,
I
guess.
I
B
B
I
didn't
see
any
limitations
with
respect
to
the
code.
There
everything
looked
pretty
straightforward
and
then
you're
going
to
put
what
crush
stone
or
something
in
the
entrance
way.
I
Oh
yeah,
I'm
going
to
landscape,
put
some
trees
out
front
landscape
around
the
buildings.
I
own
a
landscape
company,
so
I
was
hoping
to
make
it
look
pretty
good.
I
mean
you
know.
B
Yeah,
I
know
the
one
thing
I
I
go
past
her
because
I
take
my
car
down
the
car
wash
two
three
times
a
week
and
when
it
comes
back
through
between
your
area
and
the
the
landfill
there,
you
know
a
lot
of
dirt
comes
in
and
out
of
there,
so
probably
having
some
crushed
stone
will
help
on
reducing
the
amount
of
stuff.
That's
tracked
out
onto
the
road.
I
Yeah
yeah,
I
mean
you,
know
the
property.
When
I
first
bought
it
I
mean
it
was
a
nightmare,
but
it's
come
a
long
way
and
I
I
want
to
go
even
further
with
it,
so
I'm
honestly
hoping
that
actually
probably
just
pave
around
the
buildings.
Ultimately,
when
when
it's
all
said
and
done,
get
these
up
and
and
going,
I
was
gonna
pay,
I
was
looking
to
pave
it
right
away,
but
we
were
in
the
flood
zone.
So
then
I
had
to
have
a
engineer
and.
A
I
I
B
J
I
But
you
know:
we've
leveled
it
out
and
we
have
a
lot
of
you
know.
We
store
some
excess
mulch
back
here
and
we
get
a
lot
of
any
other.
You
know
like
asphalt,
grindings
or
crush
limestone,
and
we
get
we
always
put
it
down.
Try
to
keep
up
with
it
the
best
we
can
so.
B
D
As
goes,
we
don't
see
an
issue
with
it
like
he
said
he
spent
the
time
and
extra
money
being
said.
It
was
in
a
flood
zone
of
getting
the
extra
engineering
done
for
the
property
and-
and
I
know
it's
very
expensive
for
that-
they're
just
they're,
basically,
storage
buildings.
So
it's
an
i1
district.
We
have
no
issue
with
them.
H
Just
one,
I
don't
have
any
problems
with
the
plans.
I
just
have
a
question
on
that.
What
you're
calling
out
as
a
compensatory
storage
excavation
from
an
elevation
of
965,
maintain
two
percent
slope,
so
is
that
a
retention
basin
for
your
runoff
water
to
the
west
of
your
buildings,
your
new
buildings.
H
I
And
you
know
they
I
mean
the
back
of
the
property,
does
get
a
little
wet,
but
you
know
the
front
of
the
property
I
mean
I
never
have.
Besides
you
know
the
fact
I
mean
it
rained
like
two
inches
in
a
day
right.
It's
never
been
a
problem
out
here.
You
know,
but
I
mean
yeah.
Ultimately,
we
can
put
that
in.
H
I
H
And
any
pavement
you
put
in
so
you're
going
to
want
to
you,
know:
you're
not
going
to
want
it
in
your
building,
but
you're
going
to
want
to
you
know,
control
it
on
your
property.
Somehow.
I
H
B
Yeah
and
it
looks
like
there's-
maybe
a
four
foot
drop
between
the
the
buildings
and
you
know
the
edge
of
the
property
and
that
whole
area
is
a
classification
engineer.
That's
a
what
zone!
Ae,
fema
floodway,
so
you're
just
going
to
feed
a
little
bit
more
back
in
there.
It's
probably
not
going
to
change
much
from
where
you
are
right
now,
other
than
maybe
improving
surgeries
on
the
roof
coming
off.
B
If
not,
I
have
a
motion
on
this
sbr
7-2021.
H
B
B
Okay,
so
that
motion
passed
4-0
I'll,
fill
out
the
application
on
that
now
john
you're
working
tomorrow.
B
Yes,
okay,
I'll,
try
to
catch
up
with
you
around
lunchtime
and
drop
that
off
that'll
be
for,
I
guess,
maybe
bill
or
mr
fowler.
I
think
this
would
be
information
to
you
does
I
don't
know
in
this
case
whether
council
needs
approval
this
or
not.
B
E
E
Yeah,
once
I
get
my
res
once
I
get
the
resolution
signed,
mario,
I
will
let
vivian
know
and
bill
will
sign
the
everything
that
he
needs
to
sign
and
it'll
be
ready
for
you
to
pick
up-
hopefully,
probably
sometime,
maybe
tomorrow
afternoon,.
A
E
Yes,
I
think
the
only
one
we
haven't
seen
maybe
is
mr
beth.
B
E
B
B
Was
it
single
family
apartment
type
single
one
floor
development?
It's
all
one
lot,
so
it
won't
be
individual
parcels.
It'll
be
one
large
and
I
guess
would
somebody
like
from
the
investment
company
or
the
engineer
like
to
talk
about
what
their
plan
is.
J
Basically,
given
that,
but
we
started
a
company
in
1991,
I'm
working
off
the
powerpoint
slide
presentation
that
each
of
you
have
a
copy
of.
So
we
started
business
1991.
The
important
thing
about
that
is.
We
have
never
built
anything
and
sold
it
we're
long-term
holders.
We
we
are
committed
to
the
community,
we
are
committed
to
our
residents
and
we
think
that
that
is
a
main
feature
of
what
we
do.
We
feel
like.
It
should
be
important
to
people
to
know
that
we're
here
and
we're
here
to
stay.
J
We
take
our
core
values
very
seriously.
They're
they're
on
the
first
first
slide,
probably
most
important
to
you
guys
we
deliver
more
than
expected.
You
know
we
communicate
open
and
honestly,
we
demonstrate
integrity
and
authenticity
and
we
like
to
have
fun.
So
those
are
the
way
we
do.
Our
business,
those
are
the
same
way
that
we
deal
with
each
other
and
that's
the
way
we
will
deal
with
you.
J
So
you
know
we're
a
great
cleveland
success
story
and
I
started
with
redwood
10
years
ago
and
when
I
started
with
redwood,
we
had
1200
units.
We
now
have
15
000
units
and
it's
all
a
tribute
to
the
product.
It's
all
a
tribute
to
the
single-story
ranch
attached,
two-bedroom
two-bath
two-car
attached
garage,
a
private
driveway,
private
patio.
It's
it's
all!
It's
all
attributable
to
that.
J
We
have
around
400
employees,
it's
probably
up
to
like
440
now
and
have
like
50
job
requisitions
open.
So
if
anybody
knows
anybody
looking
for
a
job,
we're
looking
for
employees
kind
of
like
everybody
else,
you
know
we've
grown
our
asset
base
to
a
little
over
a
billion
and
a
half,
and
we
have
been
designated
a
great
place
to
work
and
a
top
workplace
for
three
consecutive
years.
J
Who
are
our
residents?
For
the
most
part,
our
our
residents
are
people
that
value
peace
and
quiet.
J
You
know
we
we
don't
do
amenities
and
we
don't
do
amenities
intentionally
because,
first
of
all,
the
majority
and
I'll
get
to
it
later,
but
the
majority
of
our
residents
come
from
with
within
a
three
mile
circle
of
our
neighborhoods
and
because
of
that,
if
there's
they
exercise
at
the
ymca
or
the
la
fitness
or
wherever,
wherever
they
go
a
lot
of
times,
they
do
with
a
neighbor
or
a
relative
or
a
friend
and
they're,
not
looking
for
that
from
us,
they're.
J
Looking
for
safe
nice
living
space
from
us
in
a
great
setting
with
great
landscaping,
that's
what
they're
looking
for
from
us
the
amenities
because
they're
already
ingrained
in
the
community,
they
the
things
that
they
would
like
to
participate,
they're
already
participating
in
so
who
are
residents
normally
around
70
of
our
residents
are
empty
nesters.
It
varies
a
little
bit
from
neighborhood
to
neighborhood
and
there's
well
over
100
neighborhoods.
So
you
know,
depending
on
location,
it
can
change
a
little
bit,
but
for
the
most
part,
70
are
empty
nesters.
J
The
rest
of
them
are
young
professionals,
and
it's
young
professionals
that
are
looking
to
rent
at
this.
This
point
in
their
life
we
do
really
well
with
medical,
like
nurses,
people
work
in
hospitals,
one
they
make
the
right
amount
of
money,
but
secondarily
we
offer
things.
We
offer
safety
and
security.
You
know
you,
you
drive
in
your
neighborhood,
you
hit
your
garage
door
opener,
you
drive
your
garage,
put
your
garage
door
behind
you
and
you're
safe
inside
and
that
that's
important
issue
it
it.
J
It
may
not
be
as
big
an
issue
in
norton
as
it
is
in
some
other
places,
but
it's
still
it's
something.
That's
important
to
our
residents
about
our
redwood
neighbors.
We
are,
the
average
age
is
50.6
across
there
are
now
around
13
000
rented
units
and
the
average
age
is,
is
50.6
70
again
our
empty
nesters.
J
The
vast
majority
of
our
residents
come
from
within
a
three
mile
circle
of
our
property.
It's
people
that
are
in
your
community.
They
want
to
stay
in
your
community,
they
want
to
age
in
your
community.
You
know
they
may
have
a
lot
of
reasons
they
want
to
rent,
and
maybe
they
have
an
impending
health
issue,
maybe
they're
empty
nesters.
They
don't
want
to
take
care
of
the
maintenance
any
longer.
Maybe
they
need
the
equity
out
of
their
house,
because
they're
living
too
long
and
or
living
beyond
what
their
financial
plans
were.
J
J
So
in
this
neighborhood
there's
174
units
eventually
174
units
to
maybe
be
20
kids
of
that
nature,
174
units
we
average
1.5
cars
per
unit
again
in
recognition,
the
fact
the
majority
of
our
residents
are
empty,
nesters
1.5
cars
per
unit,
which
is
far
less
than
a
single
family
or
condominium
neighborhood
that
and
we
don't
have
anywhere
near
the
impact
on
traffic.
Besides
the
fact
of
the
low
number
of
cars,
our
residents
have
a
tendency
to
not
travel
at
peak
times
and
we
average
1.6
residents
per
unit.
J
So,
even
though
they're
two
bedroom
two
bath,
it's
1.6
residents
on
average
per
unit,
our
standard
lease
terms
a
year
average
residence
day
is
2.39
years
as
we
go
on
that
is
going
to
increase
and
increase
it's
hard
to
say
that
the
average
resident
stays
2.9
years
and
the
neighborhood
is
only
three
years
old
because
our
growth
has
been
you
know
so
recent.
J
You
know
that
that
average
is
going
to
just
lengthen
out.
Naturally,
so
a
couple
things
are
really
important
to
us.
We
control
our
neighborhoods.
We
have
a
full-time
on-site,
neighborhood
manager,
we
have
a
full-time
on-site,
neighborhood
service
technician
and
both
both
of
those
people
are
there
every
day.
J
Typically,
the
the
management
office
will
be
will
be
at
least
six
or
will
be
staffed,
six
or
seven
days,
and
they
are
they're
our
first
eyes
and
ears
on
the
property.
Beyond
that,
we,
because
we're
rental
we
can
control
our
neighborhood
actually
better
than
most
single-family
neighborhoods.
Can
we
do
background
checks
on
every
resident?
Actually,
we
do
background
checks
at
everybody
over
the
age
of
18.
That's
going
to
live
in
that
apartment
and
we
do
credit
checks
on
everyone.
J
Over
the
age
of
18
who's
going
to
live
in
that
apartment,
and
if
there
are
blemishes
on
people's
records,
we
won't
lease
to
them,
and
fortunately
you
know
that
has
been
a
great
policy,
because
one
bad
apple,
one
bad
person
can
really
ruin
your
entire
neighborhood
and
we're
very
cautious
not
to
do
that.
We
have
a
very,
very,
very
restrictive
lease,
and
so
we
we
control
our
sites.
J
If
you
you
were
to
talk
to
people
in
other
neighborhoods
that
the
police
calls-
and
things
like
that
of
nature
to
our
neighborhoods
are-
are
pretty
much
non-existent
in
your
packet.
You'll
see,
there's
there's
some
exteriors
again,
you
probably
know
what
a
lot
of
the
exteriors
look
like,
because
you
know
it's
almost
like
you
can't
go
in
one
direction
or
another
without
running
into
a
redwood,
neighborhood
interiors,
you
know
with
high
quality
interiors.
J
We
are
granite,
countertops,
stainless
steel
appliances.
You
know
solid
wood
cabinets,
we
use
the
luxury
vinyl
flooring
in
our
in
our
units,
except
for
in
the
two
bedrooms.
The
rest
of
it
is
entirely
luxury
vinyl
flooring.
J
Part
of
that
is-
and
this
is
a
great
thing-
we
are
pet
friendly,
so
we
we
encourage
people
with
pets
to
live
in
our
neighborhoods.
J
I
I've.
The
next
couple
pages
are
are
a
couple
pages
of
floor
plans.
Everything
is
two
bedroom
two
bath.
The
only
exception
to
that
is.
There
is
a
cape
wood
that
has
a
sun
room
and
we
have
some
cape
woods
in
the
project
that
that
get
us
up
to
about
1600
square
feet,
but
generally
1296
square
feet
to
to
and
the
forest
wood
meadow
about,
1300
square
feet,
willow
wood
about
1400
square
feet.
The
cape
board
gets
up
to
600
square
feet,
site
location,
I
mean
you
know
we're.
J
If
you
look
at
the
site.
Location
map
that
I
put
that's
provided
were
basically
the
top
part,
the
north
part
of
the
golf
course,
and
we
back
up
to
I-76,
which
you
go
to
the
next,
where
it
shows
the
master
plan
for
the
entire
development.
Where
you
see
the
single-family
home
lots,
and
then
you
see
us
on
the
far
right
of
the
plan.
We
make
a
great
transitional
use.
You
know
we're
we're
we're
up
against
the
highway.
J
The
next
is
neighborhood
plan,
it's
a
color
plan.
It
is
also
you
know,
kind
of
a
rough
there's,
a
rough
landscape.
It's
drawn
over
a
rough
landscape
plan.
You
know
we
landscape
to
the
higher
of
your
standard
or
ours,
and
actually,
I
believe,
our
standard's
higher
than
yours
in
this
particular
case,
but
we
landscape
to
higher
of
your
standard
or
ours.
J
Why
do
people
choose
redwood
peace
and
quiet
one?
Two?
They
have
a
neat
unique
address,
they
have
their
own
front
door
and
they
have
their
own
garage
with
their
own
garage
door
opener
in
a
covet
environment.
This
has
been
very
important
because
they're
in
an
apartment
they're
not
high
from
the
walk
down
common
halls,
they
are
not
going
to
common
amenities
location.
Obviously
you
know
you
guys
live
in
norton.
J
You
know
what
a
great
community
that
is-
and
you
know
we're
hopefully
going
to
be
a
great
member
to
your
community.
The
other
one
thing
is
our
residents.
We
take
care
of
them
in
recognition
that
they're
empty
nesters.
J
J
If
you're
on
a
walker
or
something
that
nature
you
can't
take
your
garbage
out,
we'll
come
take
it
out
for
you
all
of
our
safe
sites
are
fha,
accessible
and
ada
compliant,
and
we
we
grow
great
efforts
to
do
that.
I
mean
one
with
single-story
ranch
you're
required
to.
But
beyond
that,
it's
it's
really
who
our
residents
are.
You
know
they
they
they
want
access
to
the
to
the
mail,
chaos
and
the
managing
office,
and
you
know,
whatever
else
you
know,
is
to
walk
their
dog.
J
They
want
access
to
do
all
that
and
we
we
we
gladly
provide
it.
I
kind
of
rush
through
that,
because
robert
told
me
that
I
need
to
be
economical
with
your
time.
So
so,
if
anybody
has
any
questions,
please
ask
just.
H
Curious,
what
is
the
range
of
rental
fees
just
ballpark?
It
doesn't
have
to
be
exact,
for
is
it
a
monthly
rental
like
typical
apartments.
J
Yeah,
so
we
sign
typically
your
leases,
although
we
have
programs
for
two
and
three
year
leases.
If
people
wish
to
make
that
commitment
in
this
location
we'll
be
between
sixteen
hundred
and
eighteen
hundred
dollars,
depending
on
which
unit
it
is
okay,
you
know,
there's
there's
some
premiums
on
end
units
and
some
of
the
larger
units
run
one
to
rent
up
a
little
bit
more
but
somewhere
1600
to
1800.
J
Okay,
thank
you
and
to
that
point
we
do
not
take
government
subsidies
as
a
company
policy,
there's
no
vouchers.
It's
all
mark.
G
The
questions
thing
I
was
thinking
where
are
the
accessed
in
and
out
of
the
properties.
J
B
I
I
got
a
whole
pile
of
these,
but
I
did
talk
to
bill
and
mr
fowler
yesterday,
but
just
don't
carry
out
like
the
I
didn't
realize
there
were
ones
in
copley,
but
I've
been
out
to
wadsworth
three
or
four
times
just
driving
around
looking
at
that.
But
how
many
apartments
are
in
the
wadsworth
behind
walmart.
J
B
J
B
So
I
guess,
and
one
thing
that
came
up-
and
I
did
talk
to
the
city
about
this-
is
you're
going
to
do
the
plowing
and
the
maintenance
of
the
roads.
My
understanding
is
it's
a
private
facility,
so
the
city
will
not
have
to
plow
any
of
the
streets.
That's.
J
Correct
we
we
no
offense
to
any
city,
but
our
residents
being
empty
nesters.
They,
like
things
plowed,
probably
to
a
higher
standard
than
what
what
the
city's
accustomed
to,
and
so
we
take
care
of
our
own
site.
B
Okay,
because
one
of
the
issues
that
we've
addressed
before
in
the
past
is
that
that
we
would
normally
have
curbs
or
something
with
the
drains
on
the
outside
edge
for
the
runoff,
and
you
actually
have
one
in
the
center
and
that
isn't
a
big
problem.
As
long
as
the
city
doesn't
have
to
plow.
It.
J
Right,
no,
that's
right!
Well,
actually,
there's
a
purpose
to
that.
The
purpose
to
that
is
because
we're
we're
ada
and
fair
housing,
fha
accessible,
that
our
driveways
go
on
a
flat
service
to
the
road
and
there's
not
a
curb
for
somebody
to
go
over
with
a
walker.
It's
that
way
intentionally.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah.
I
was
kind
of
watching
cars
in
and
out.
You
don't
see
an
awful
lot,
but
I
was
there
during
the
daytime,
so
okay
and
then
these
are
just
like
looking
down
the
future,
but
with
the
development.
Next
to
you,
like
you're,
going
to
be
putting.
I
I'm
I
apologize
for
this
because
I
get
confused
between
detention
and
retention
basins,
but
you're
going
to
have
some
small.
B
J
B
B
Okay,
yeah,
because
I
was
thinking
that,
probably
with
that
other
development,
it's
probably
not
going
to
progress.
Well,
I'm
going
to
say
as
fast
as
you
guys.
I
don't
know
that,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
we
transition
over
the
next
couple
years
when
you
have
your
stuff
in,
but
they
don't
have
their
system
set
up
yet.
J
C
Yes,
hey
everyone,
chris
schmidt,
with
with
the
david
resource
group,
I'm
the
the
civil
engineer
for
the
project,
yeah,
that's
all
as
part
of
the
first
phase
of
of
brookside
greens,
we've
kind
of
analyzed
the
whole
area,
the
drainage
area-
and
you
know,
that's
kind
of
been
accounted
for
already.
B
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
we
talked
about
this
during
their
site
plan
as
far
as
just
slowing
the
water
down,
so
it's
slower
than
the
runoff
that
they're
getting
right
now
so,
but
you
just
may
not
have
all
that
infrastructure
done
before
you
know.
This
development
is
complete,
so
there'll
have
to
be
some
transition
there.
So.
C
Yeah
for
for
this
portion
of
the
project,
it's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
going
to
be
its
own,
its
own
area,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
analyze
this
area,
and
you
know
make
sure
that
that
we
meet
all
the
city
and
the
epa
regulations.
B
Okay
and
then
the
the
outlet
where
you're
gonna
have
a
cul-de-sac.
I
understand
that
that's
gonna
be
barbara's.
Greens
is
gonna,
put
that
in.
B
J
You're
talking
about
the
sign
on
greenwich,
yes,
yeah,
okay,.
B
And
then
I
guess
the
only
other
issue.
Well,
I
I
had
two,
the
only
other
issue
I
had
is.
We
were
talking
a
little
bit
about
a
traffic
study
because
it
looks
like
most
of
the
traffic
here
would
probably
exit
there
and
go
right
down
shell
heart,
probably
to
cleveland
maslin
road,
and
so
was
there
any
plan
here
to
do
a
traffic
study.
From
your
standpoint,
I
know
that
the
city
has
talked
about
that.
I
don't
know
whether
they've
passed
it
on
to
you
or
not.
J
So
I
I
don't.
We
have
not
addressed
that
issue
again.
Our
traffic
is
normally
fairly
minimal
because
of
who
our
residents
are.
Typically,
we
rely
on
the
city
to
to
ask
for
it
because
it's
it's
you
know
a
lot
of
it
depends
on.
You
know
any
complaints
by
those
residents
or
it
depends
on
whether
you
believe
there's
enough
here
to
create
a
problem.
A
J
So
that
you
mean
the
master
jason,
did
it
did
a
traffic
study.
A
B
Okay
and
then
the
other
thing-
and
I
I
didn't-
get
any
feedback
from
the
fire
chief,
because
these
roads
don't
meet
the
standards
of
the
city
of
norton,
you
know.
Normally,
we
would
have
cul-de-sacs
with
minimum
radius
and
everything
and
the
only
issue
here
is:
you
have
to
get
some
equipment
back
in
there.
B
They
may
have
to
back
down
or
move
around
just
to
be
able
to
turn
the
truck
around,
and
I
haven't
got
anything
back
from
the
fire
company
on
that-
it's
probably
not
impossible,
but
it
may
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
get
through.
We
were
kind
of
taking
a
look
at
a
couple
of
the
areas
like.
B
How
apologize
for
this?
Because
I'm
from
western
pennsylvania,
so
I
my
slang-
is
bad
but
access
I'll,
see
where,
if
you
had
to
get
back
in
there,
you'd
probably
have
to
back
out
and
get
some
help.
B
B
J
That
is
not
an
unusual
comment.
I
I
would
say
in
this
particular
situation.
You
know,
there's
really
like
three.
The
the
thing
is
configured
in
what
I
would
describe
as
two
race
tracks.
You
know
you
have
and,
and
if
you
look
at
it,
the
the
only
issue
would
be
there's
those
three
small
stub
streets.
Those
are
actually
very
short
and
I'm
not
sure
that
you
know
I'm
not
sure
that
they
can't
those
buildings.
There
can't
be
serviced
from
the
main
road
from
the
from
the
racetrack,
without
even
using
the
stub
streets.
B
Okay,
yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I
thought.
I
I
thought
then
the
fire
chief
is
still
out
right
now.
Is
that
true,
mr
power.
B
Okay,
yeah,
so
that
may
be
one
down
the
road
here.
This
is
going
to
go
to
council
for
their
approval,
so
other
than
that.
I
I
didn't
really
have
any
other
comments.
I
guess
I
think
this
is
the
kind
of
development
that
we
need
in
norton,
because
we
don't
really
have
a
lot
where
we're
dealing
with
you
know,
let's
say:
upgraded
nestor
type
apartments.
I
have
several
friends
living
in
wadsworth
and
they've
all
sold
their
houses
and
moved
stuff
like
this,
because
they're
they're
looking
to
downsize.
B
So
I
think
the
the
one
I've
been
in
was
worth,
I
think,
is
a
very
nice
layout
and
you
know,
looks
like
it's
well
maintained
and
they
have
very
nice.
The
landscaping
and
everything
you
know
is
in
disarray,.
B
I
so
I
don't
really
know
that
I
have
any
you
know
comments.
We
need
to
have
the
application
from
my
standpoint.
Anybody
else
have
any
questions
or
comments.
Chris.
H
Is
there
a
legal
or
some
kind
of
binding
agreement
between
redwood
and
brookside
to
assure
that
your
stormwater
system
is
taken
care
of?
Because
I
understand
you
said
it's
okay,
we
got
an
agreement
with
you
know.
Ryan
holmes
is
going
to
do
what
they
need
to
do,
but
what,
if
they
come
back
and
say,
no
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
C
I
haven't
been
involved
in
any
talks.
I
mean
that
would
be
more
between
redwoods
lawyers
and
jason's
lawyers,
I
would
think,
or
between
those
two
entities,
but
I
mean
I
can
only
you
know
like
I
said
what
we're
doing
is
just
maintaining
the
water
on
on
on
this
site
per.
You
know,
the
city
regulations
and
the
epa
regulations
just
making
sure
that
there's
not
more
runoff
from
the
pre
pre-state
to
the
post
state.
J
A
Much
like
stone.
It's
not
the
same
as
stonewick,
but
stonework
has
a
stormwater
retention
pond
that
they
are
obligated
to
maintain
through
the
agreement
when
they
developed
with
the
city.
It'll
be
similar
with
this
green,
the
brookside
greens,
and
they
will
be
obligated
to
so
there's
a
there's,
a
an
agreement
with
the
city
and
brookside
greens,
which
also
incorporates
this
other
parcel,
which
includes
all
the
utilities
that
are
approved
prior
to
acceptance
by
the
city.
Ng.
B
B
B
Well,
as
I
said,
I
don't
think
I
had
any
real
exceptions
from
my
standpoint
and
if
anybody
else
has
any
comments
or
questions,
if
not
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
for
sbr,
2020
or
2021.
F
Quick
question:
yes,
are
any
of
the
partials
to
the
west
of
the
development
landlocked
that
sort
of
came
up
when
we
were
dealing
with
the
the
other
development.
But
do
we
have
some
landlocked
partials
between
their
west
boundary
line
and
the
east
side
of
21.
C
B
Yep,
so
can
I
have
a
motion
on
this.
B
B
B
And
then
this
will
go
actually
what
I
will
say
on
this
is
actually
I've
gone
back
through
and
looked
at
what
the
mixed
use
district
permits
and
they
comply
with
all
the
requirements
and
actually
have
gone
above
and
beyond
that
many
areas
with
respect
to
allowable
units
per
acre
and
percentage.
That's
open
space
and
things
like
that,
so
they've
essentially
complied
with
those
requirements.
F
Ralph,
I
don't
have
my
my
my
number
well,
I
make
a
motion
to
approve,
but
I
don't
have
my
the
rest
of
my
numbers
in
front
of
me.
Okay,
yeah.
F
E
E
F
E
B
And
anybody
nobody
has
any
other
comments
or
questions
shannon.
Would
you
do
a
roll
call?
Please?
Yes,.
B
B
E
H
So
my
vote
really
doesn't
count,
so
I'm
going
to
represent
the
neighborhood
surrounding
the
development
zone
and
I'm
going
to
vote
now.
Okay,.
B
I
will
fill
out
an
application,
I'll
connect
with
john
tomorrow
to
get
that
signed.
This
will
go
to
the
city
for
information
and
I'll
go
to
council
for
approval
and
that'll
probably
show
up
in
maybe
what
two
weeks
or
so
for
review.
E
I'm
not
sure
we
would
have
to
check
with.
I
guess:
council
robert,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
gets
on
their
agenda.
How
soon.
B
Okay-
and
I
don't
think
it'll.
A
Be
within
the
next
two
meetings.
B
B
Okay-
I
guess
other
than
that,
mr
pat,
thank
you
for
presenting
this
and
thanks
for
investing
in
city
norton.
Hopefully
this
will
be
a
successful
development
and
you
know
a
boost
to
not
only
our
economic
side
of
things,
but
you
know
the
school
system
and
involvement
in
the
community
with
the
individuals
there.