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From YouTube: Oklahoma City Downtown Design Review - August 20, 2020
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The regular monthly meeting of the Oklahoma City Downtown Design Review, via video conference, for August 20, 2020.
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Welcome
to
the
august
20th
2020
meeting
of
the
downtown
design
review
committee.
This
meeting
is
being
held
by
video
conference.
My
name
is
tony
blatt
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
committee.
No
physical
location
will
be
provided
for
the
ddrc
meeting.
The
meeting
will
instead
be
live
streamed
from
the
remote
location.
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want
to
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joining
us
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consideration
will
be
continued
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
downtown
design
review
committee
meeting,
which
will
be
thursday.
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September
17th,
so
the
next
it
will
be
continued
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
downtown
design
review
meeting
on
thursday
september
17th
at
9
30
a.m.
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conference,
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J
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K
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G
B
B
This
is
showing
the
existing
sign
and
they're
proposing
to
remove
that
and
install
a
new
one,
and
there
are
some
drawings
coming
up,
showing
what
the
proposal
will
look
like.
We,
I
don't.
I
don't
know
when
we've
had
one
of
these
come
before
you,
because
normally
they're
smaller
than
25
square
feet.
This
would
give
them
the
ability
to
instantly
change
their
messages,
as
a
lot
of
churches
have
activities
going
on
all
of
the
time,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
Staff
has
a
recommended
condition.
L
J
L
J
J
So
I
understand
the
the
desire
to
have
them
to
change
content
easily
and
throughout
the
day
to
provide
numerous
layers
of
content,
but
I'm
I
don't
offhand
under
see
a
need
to
go
to
a
level
two
to
accomplish
that.
I
I
believe
you
know
unless
there's
something
I'm
missing.
I
believe
that
that
could
be
accomplished
with
a
level
one
which
would
be
less.
I
think.
M
L
Well,
so
I
mean,
of
course,
a
level
two
is
going
to
give
you
that
ability
to
animate,
if
you
have
the
ability
to
animate
and
to
animate
too,
by
definition
of
one
and
two
is
just
a
transition
just
to,
but
more
than
one
message
will
slide
within
the
message.
So
what
it
does
is
it
allows
you
to.
You
know
utilize,
the
area
better.
You
don't
have
to
have
that
static
hold
and
that
hard
change.
L
So
from
a
user
standpoint,
I
don't
really
think
that
it
affects
it
so
much
with
it
not
facing
a
you
know
a
residential
area.
At
all
I
mean
it
is
within
200
foot,
but
it
doesn't
face
that
area
at
all.
I
don't
see
any
reason
for
it
not
to
be
a
level
two,
so
no,
I
didn't
discuss
it
with
them,
but,
yes,
you
know
utilize
the
functionality
of
the
board
with
other
ones
in
downtown.
L
I
would
think
a
level
two
would
be
necessary.
I
mean,
I
definitely
think
having
it
off
at
certain
times
a
day
you
know,
makes
a
difference,
but
which
definitely
will
you
know,
take
care
of
some
of
your
brightness
concerns
because
it
won't
even
be
on
during
the
times
of
which
brightness
is
probably
the
biggest
concerns
from
10
pm
to
6am.
L
So
I
I
really
don't
know
how
to
answer
your
question,
because,
because
I
am
a
proponent
of
the
sign,
so
I
feel
like
this
is
more
of
a
philosophical
difference
than
it
is
like
within
this
design.
So
you
know
without
getting
into
that,
I
don't
really
know
how
to
answer
it.
It's
definitely
more
functionality
and
better
for
the
church.
B
J
Well
it
so
what
I'm
seeing
so
a
couple
things
first,
I
do
want
to
address
the
comment
about
time's
times
dark,
and
I
know
that
obviously
10
p.m.
To
6
a.m.
It's
dark,
but
in
the
winter
time,
basically
5
p.m,
to
10
p.m.
It's
also
dark,
and
so
those
are
very
irrelevant
times
where
it
would
be
dark
and
people
would
be
interacting
with
the
sign
while
it's
on
so
that
I
think
the
I
I
appreciate
that
the
brightness
will
be
programmed.
I
think
that's
great.
I
think
we're
over
that.
J
J
J
Oh,
not
necessarily,
I
mean
I,
I
know
you've,
you've,
you've
certainly
provided
a
response
and
and
laid
out.
You
know
where
how
this
has
gotten
to
be
proposed
as
a
level
two,
but
I
so
I'm
I'm.
I
guess
at
this
point
just
making
my
point
that
I
think
what,
as
far
as
I
know,
what
what's
the
goal
in
accomplishing
varying
signage,
I
I
believe
that
that
could
be
accomplished
with
a
level
one,
and
I
don't
I
haven't
seen
anything
yet
that
that
shows
this
should
go
to
a
level.
J
Two
and
personally,
I
find
these
signs
overly,
not
contributing
positively
to
the
to
the
built
environment,
to
the
pedestrian
experience,
and
so
I'm
not.
I
I'm
not
sold
on
what
I
need
to
be
able
to,
and
that's
my
position
really
for
discussion
amongst
the
community
and
in
general,
it's
where
I'm
at.
I
This
is
julie,
kriegel.
I
I
kind
of
agree
with
you
corey
I
mean
I
understand,
probably
the
the
image
that
the
message
they
want
to
create
is
something
dynamic
and
moving,
and
all
of
that,
but
but
there's
the
messages
themselves
really
could
be
layered
and
and
communicated
without
having
to
go
to
that
very
distracting
field
that
a
level
two
sign
has,
and
I
agree
with
you-
I'm
not
a
fan
of
them.
I
L
Well,
so,
and
just
just
to
respond
and
to
make
sure
to
drive
with
what
laura
was
saying
that
it's
not
asking
for
full
animation,
it
is
transitioning
between
the
slides
and
and
for
it
to
move
as
opposed
to
just
a
harsh
static
transition.
It's
the
only
difference
between
one
and
two
we're
totally
cool
with
with
a
level
one.
If
that's
what
it
takes
to
be
the
seven
square
foot
bigger
than
it
would
have
been
to
be
administrative
approval
for
a
level
two.
L
G
G
B
L
B
K
B
B
They
replaced
it
recently,
but
they
were
in
keeping
with
the
variants
that
had
been
issued
for
the
location
and
the
size
and
city
took
right
away.
It's
it's
a
clinic,
a
medical
clinic.
I
think,
but
I
right
now.
I
can't
think
of
any
others
in
that
this
area,
because
I
haven't
really
worked
any
that
I
can
recall.
K
I
you
know,
and
and
again
I
agree
with
cory
and
laura
and
julie
and
the
size
of
the
street
and
the
size
of
the
you
know
how
you
know,
driving
by
it's
just
really
bright
and-
and
I
see
the
point
of
catching
people's
attention,
but
it
is
he's
kind
of
very
different
and
that's
not
that's
not
bad
at
all.
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
great,
but
I
think
that
you
know
level
one
as
well
is
it's
kind
of
what
would
be
more
important
with
the
place
as
an
approach
to
me.
K
Personally,
I'm
thinking
it
is
distracting,
there's
another
one
that
I
drive
by
a
lot
actually
on
on
a
street
that
is
very
busy
on
this
south
side
and
it's
just
really
bright
and
sometimes
driving
you're.
Like
you
know,
it's
like
too
much.
It's
almost
like
you
know,
there's
not
a
need
for
it
to
be
extremely
bright
as
it
is.
I
believe
that
myself
so
level,
two
I've
seen
a
couple
of
things
like
it's.
You
know
it.
K
D
B
So
if
I
might
just
this
is
laura,
I
just
wanted
to
address
this
to
the
committee
members.
So,
in
the
information
included
about
conditions
of
approval,
there
are
no
conditions
for
a
level
one,
so
they
are
not
required
to
be
off
between
10
pm
and
6
a.m.
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
even
though
the
separation
distance
isn't
an
issue,
they
are
also
not
required
to
be
150
feet
away
from.
J
Zoning
ordinance
as
referenced
in
section
c
and
d
of
the
staff
report,
with
the
following
three
conditions,
condition
number
one:
the
emd
sign
operate
at
a
level.
One
functionality
condition
number
two:
the
hours
of
operation
full
sign
b
for
the
emd
sign
b.
6
am
to
10
pm,
where
the
sign
is
turned
off
between
10
pm
and
6
am
and
condition
number
3
that
the
brightness
levels
of
the
sign
be
programmed
as
described
earlier
in
the
meeting
to
be
dimmer
during
hours
in
which
the
sun
is
low
and
down.
B
B
B
B
And
then
staff
pointed
out
the
parking
structure.
They
don't
know
at
this
point
if
it's
going
to
be
tilt-up,
concrete
or
precast
concrete,
and
we
do
have
the
requirement
of
finished
surface
on
cast
in
place
concrete,
but
since
the
the
podium
and
cameron
you
can
go
ahead
and
continue
on
through
the
slides.
Thank
you,
since
the
parking
podium
will
either
be
screened
by
the
building
or
brick
screen.
Walls
staff
did
not
feel
that
it.
B
It
would
be
necessary
to
require
them
to
actually
provide
a
finished
surface
on
the
concrete,
no
matter
which
cast
in
place
or
precast
concrete.
They
are
also
proposing
to
use
cementitious
siding
and
when
we
get
to
the
elevations,
you
can
see
the
difference.
They
are
using
brick
and
cementitious
signing,
unlike
the
last
building
that
you
saw
that
used
them
both
it's
predominantly
brick,
and
I
will
probably
let
the
applicants
describe
it
better.
B
B
B
Planning
staff
requested,
and
they
did
agree
that
they
would
retain
the
facade
of
the
building
at
the
corner.
On
that
picture
there
on
that
elevation,
you
can
see,
as
you
approach
the
lower
right
of
the
elevation,
that
is,
the
facade
of
the
existing
building.
That
is
a
tannish
brick
and
then
there
is
an
awning
with
green.
They
look
like
clay
tiles,
I
don't
know
if
they're,
clear,
metal
or
rubber
or
what
they
are
and
then
it
wraps
around
the
corner
so
they're
retaining
that
feature
which
we
asked
them
to
do.
B
I
missed,
including
this,
that
staff
is
wanting
some
additional
information
from
from
the
applicant
just
dealing
with
staff
on
how
they're
going
to
attach
the
retained
facade
to
the
new
building,
because
we
really
couldn't
tell
that
and
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this.
We
have
the
condition
that
they
have
to
get
a
variance
from
the
board
of
adjustment
from
the
regulation
requiring
the
first
two
floors
to
be
at
or
within
10
foot
of
the
street
right
away.
B
Additionally,
staff
is
recommending
a
condition
b
that
the
applicant
provide
the
following
to
staff,
a
demolition
plan
and
floor
plans
that
show
windows
and
doors
and
how
the
historic
facade
ties
into
the
new
building
and
then
just
to
note.
The
second
motion
you
all
will
need
to
make
would
be
to
provide
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
adjustment
on
the
required
variants
from
the
street
right.
J
B
That
I
I
will
write
on
the
elevation.
If
you
all
don't
object
once
they
tell
you
what
is
what
I
will
actually
just
write
it
on
there,
because
there
is
no
need
for
them
to
have
to
redraft
anything.
If,
if
that
sounds
okay
to
you,
if
I
understood
your
question
corey,
you
kind
of
kind
of
went
in
and
out
a
little
bit
there.
So.
J
B
Yeah
I,
as
I
look
at
this,
I'm
I'm
pretty
sure
all
of
the
what
I
call
the
brown
color
is
brick,
what
I'm
going
to
call
the
medium
gray
color
and
I'm
I'm
looking
at
mr
zitzel
there.
He
can,
I
think,
the
medium
gray
color,
which
is
adjacent
to
that
vertical
column
of
brown.
Brick,
is
the
other
brick
color.
If
I'm
correct.
M
M
Okay,
my
name
is
mark
zidzeb,
I'm
with
johnson
and
associates
urban
planner.
Also
on
the
call
is
tim
johnson
who's,
the
engineer
craig,
alter
and
ben
marshall,
who
are
the
developers
and
designers
of
the
project
laura
pretty
much
well
covered
everything
she's
correct
in
that
the
the
first
floor
is
entirely
brick.
You
see
the
brown
section
going
up
in
the
middle,
that's
also
brick,
it's
the
darker
gray
color.
M
M
M
M
Overall,
I
think
the
the
streetscape
is
going
to
be
enhanced,
particularly
what
is
over
what
is
there
now
along
park
place?
Laura
mentioned
the
variance,
so
I
just
want
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
background
on
this.
When
we
came
through
and
vacated
closed
and
vacated
a
portion
of
park
place,
we
did
so
for
the
western
portion
of
the
building
and
cameron.
I
don't
know
if
you
could
go
back
to
that
site
plan.
M
M
N
So,
looking
at
that
facade,
the
the
hatch
pattern,
as
you
described
in
the
bottom,
is
a
is
a
metal
screen
that
has
some
opacity
to
it.
That'll
come
up
above
the
brick,
the
screen,
headlights
and
cars.
So
they're,
not,
you
know
readily
visible
from
the
street,
and
then
there
is
some
open
space.
The
first
white
above
that
is
open
air
to
the
garage
and
then
the
the
next
white
would
be
a
precast
accent
piece
as
well
as
the
band
that
runs.
N
J
J
N
We
were
again,
the
podium
band
is
a
precast
and
when
I
say
precast
I
mean
like
a
limestone
of
a
full
limestone
band,
not
necessarily
like
a
raw
concrete,
so
it'll
be
a
a
a
beige
limestone
looking
product
and
it
was.
It
was
to
mimic
a
header
condition.
I
mean
we
could
do
that
with
a
brick
soldier
course
as
well.
If
that
was
preferred
by
the
committee.
J
J
J
N
I
didn't
catch
the
last
part
of
the
question
there,
but
I
think
I
I
get
what
you're
asking
so
right
now
the
facade
is,
is
basically
going
to
be
set
out
there
separate
from
the
building.
You
know,
it'll
it'll
be
provided
with
a
structural
backup
and
really
is
being
put
out
there
as
kind
of
a
billboard.
If
you
will
to
the
old
building
and
we
will
not
be
circulating
through
it
or
it's
not
truly
integrated
into
the
new
use.
So
you
know
access
to
that
commercial
space
will
be
along
the
eastern
facade.
H
J
O
Hey
mr
blatt
steve
mason
would
like
to
speak.
Can
you
hear
me
sure
hi?
This
is
steve
mason
I
live
at
824,
northwest
8th,
I
own
the
class
and
then
at
820
north
classen.
I
own
multiple
buildings
in
the
plaza
district
for
several
years.
You
know:
we've
heard
about
rumored
developments
class
on
this
land
and
other
strikes
on
through
fruition.
J
This
is
cory
bates
without
hearing
any
other
comments
from
the
audience.
I
do
want
to
talk
about
this
southeast
corner
a
little
bit
and
maybe
get
everybody's
opinion
on
it,
but
I
I
appreciate
the
sentiment
in
preserving
the
facade
at
10th
and
classic,
but
I'm
not
on
board
with
how
it's
being
preserved.
H
H
The
space
that's
directly
adjacent
to
the
existing
facade
does
not
have
currently
a
drawer,
a
door
drawn
showing
its
entrance
point,
which
leads
me
to
believe
that
maybe
that's
an
area
of
development
still.
Can
we
get
a
an
understanding
of
what
the
intent
is
for
the
space
on
the
southeast
corner
and
how
it
integrates
with
the
existing
facade?
That's
going
to
be
retained
from
the
design
team.
N
I'm
sure
this
is
ben
marshall,
again
with
m
a
and
right
now
that
is
a
speculative
retail
space.
That's
on
program,
so
we
are
not
showing
doors
at
this
time.
Until
we
have
users,
those
and
those
users
will
be.
You
know,
driving
the
location
of
those
those
openings
depending
if
it's
a
single
user
or
multiple
users
so
expect
commercial
space.
N
N
I
mean
it's
something
we
could
explore.
I
think
it
represents
some
challenges
for
us
just
integrating
that
bill
into
the
new
building
from
a
structural
standpoint,
differential
movement-
and
this
you
know
again,
working
with
new
grades
versus
existing
grades
does
propose
some
challenges
for
the
project,
which
is
why
it's
we're
showing
the
way
we
are
now.
P
J
P
The
existing
building,
as
you
can
see
by
the
ramps
and
steps,
is
above
the
curb
by
probably
close
to
two
feet,
and
I
think
what
we
you
would
end
up
with
is
for
us
to
ramp
that
sidewalk
to
work
more
make
more
of
a
compliment
to
the
corner,
and
it
may
require
a
little
knee
wall
right
at
the
footing.
Edge
of
the
building.
P
J
J
Retaining
the
face
retaining
the
building
as
a
as
a
freestanding
facade
in
front
of
a
new
building
is
not
the
best
way
to
retain
a
building,
and
I
I
would
like
to
see
how
this
this
could
be
incorporated.
I
think
there
are
certainly
ways
to
deal
with
the
grade
and-
and
maybe
maybe
the
entry
point
is
not
at
the
corner-
there's
an
entry
point
on
on
the
east
existing
and
maybe
there's
an
entry
point
on
the
on
the
south.
J
H
H
So
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
understand
a
little
bit
better
as
to
how
that
would
be
accomplished,
but
additionally
and
tim
might
be
able
to
give
mr
johnson
might
be
able
to
give
us
a
little
information
on
what
is
the
distance
from
the
front
facade
the
veneer
existing
to
the
current
or
proposed
curve
locations?
Is
it?
P
M
B
G
B
Cameron
when
you
that
one
shows
the
existing
facade-
and
I
added
I
added
the
notes
in
the
red,
but
so
you
see
the
existing
facade,
you
see
the
five
foot
distance
between
it
on
the
west
between
the
new
building
and
that
so
the
distance
from
that
existing
facade
to
the
curve
does.
It
would
not
include
that
additional
five
feet.
J
This
is
cory.
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
get
that
existing
facade
on
the
site
plan
as
well
to
see
how
all
of
that's
coming
together
and
I'll.
Looking
at
the
first
floor
plan,
now
just
layering
on
to
my
my
earlier
point
about
incorporating
the
facade,
the
five
foot
space
that's
being
proposed
between
the
facade
and
the
new
building
on
the
on
the
east
side
seems
like
a
very
awkward
space
to
me
that
will
collect
debris
and.
J
H
H
G
H
I
want
to
step
back
for
a
second
and
say:
I
think
that
this
is
a
phenomenal
project.
I
think
that
it
is
everything
about
it.
I
think
the
way
that
it's
been
approached
designed,
I
love
the
fact
that
the
parking
is
concealed
from
view.
It
does
all
the
things
that
you
would
like
to
see.
I
think
that
this
is,
although
a
minor
percentage
of
the
overall
design,
it's
really
the
only
percentage
that
talks
to
the
history
of
the
site
and
it's
it
seems.
I
H
P
M
So,
mr
chairman,
if
I
made
this
mark
zits
out,
is
there
potentially
a
path
forward
with
a
partial
approval
today,
including
the
variants
to
where
then?
Maybe
we
can
come
back
with
just
the
southeast
corner
of
the
facade
so
that
we
can
continue
with
design
and
the
other
entitlements
and
permits
that
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with.
H
H
N
D
F
F
J
J
J
With
that
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
application
on
the
basis
that
the
project
complies
with
the
regulations
and
guidelines
of
the
downtown
design,
zoning
ordinance
as
referenced
in
section
c
and
d
of
the
staff
report.
With
the
following
three
conditions
condition.
A
the
applicant
shall
attain
a
variance
from
the
board
of
adjustment
from
the
regulation
requiring
the
first
two
floors
to
be
at
or
within
10
feet
of
the
street
right
away.
J
Condition
b,
that
the
applicant
submit
a
demolition
plan
to
staff
for
review
and
condition
c
that
the
southeast,
the
design
and
proposed
solution
for
the
southeast
corner
of
the
development,
including
the
existing
facade
and
the
commercial
space
behind
it.
As
well
as
the
site
plan
from
the
existing
building
to
the
curb
line.
J
Q
I
B
B
H
H
B
B
B
Document
they
submitted
with
all
their
conditions
they're,
proposing
a
growth
facility
inside
a
building,
so
none
of
the
activity
would
take
place
outside.
This
is
a
large
site.
It's
in
a
pretty
much
industrial
and
commercial
area
cameron.
Can
you
go
back?
I'm
sorry.
I
meant
to
meant
to
pipe
up
quicker
than.
D
B
But
I
wanted
to
note
that
in
the
upper
right
corner
of
that
picture,
that
is
on
the
same
block
and
that's
adjacent
to
the
railroad
tracks
and
the
upper
two
floors
is
actually
the
home
of
the
owner.
So
there
is
residential
use
on
that
block,
as
well
as
thank
you,
cameron,
caddy
corner
to
the
northeast
and
we've
already
gone
by,
that
is
the
metropolitan,
not
metropolitan,
the
a
large
apartment
complex.
I
think
it's
called
the
metropolitan,
so
there
is
residential
uses
in
that
area.
B
G
B
Handout
from
our
guidelines-
and
we
noted
that
the
current
site
is
out
of
compliance
with
a
few
things.
One
is
the
fencing
regulations
of
the
downtown
design
district,
but
it
is
existing.
They
have
a
chain
link
fence
adjacent
to
the
street
right
away
and
also
with
chapter
59
which
and
that
upper
picture
on
the
left
is,
is
being
they're
now
using
that
for
a
parking
lot
and
it's
just
gravel
and
dirt,
and
that
is
not
allowed
because
parking
lots
are
required
to
be
paid.
B
However,
I
noticed
what
they
were
using
it
for
when
I
was
out
there,
because
that
is
actually
my
truck
parked
there
and
I
was
walking
around
taking
pictures-
is
the
parlor
across
the
street
is
using
it
when
people
come
to
pick
up
their
to
go
orders
and
they
call
them
and
they're
walking
them
across
the
street,
so
they're
making
use
of
that
area.
That
was
already
like
that
already
had
gravel
on
it,
as
well
as
the
other
thing
that
the
site
is
not
in
compliance
with.
B
Is
the
number
and
size
of
curb
cuts.
Essentially,
the
entire
east
property
line,
which
is
along
oklahoma,
is
one
huge,
curb
cut
from
traffic
light
to
traffic
light,
but
its
existing
conditions,
and
we
wouldn't
normally
require
them
to
fix
things
now,
and
so
that's
the
upper
two
pictures.
You
can
see
that
continuous,
curb
cut.
B
However,
this
is
coming
before
you
and
it's
a
use
question.
They
are
not
asking
to
remove
it
from
the
downtown
design
district
they're,
not
asking
to
change
any
of
our
regulations
and
guidelines,
so
staff
recommends
the
following
comments:
be
forwarded
to
the
planning
commission
regarding
this
bud
zero.
One.
B
Two
four:
three,
that
the
proposed
spud
does
not
include
language
affecting
the
review
process
or
requirements
for
changes
to
the
exterior
of
the
property
and
that
the
proposed
bud
retains
the
dvd-based
zoning
district
in
all
regulations
and
guidelines
related
to
the
purview
of
the
downtown
design
review
committee,
and
I
will
notice
that
I
thought
yes,
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
you
there
for
a
minute.
Troy
humphries
is
on
the
call
and
he
is
representing
this
application.
H
Q
Troy
humphrey
with
land
run
commercial,
real
estate
advisors.
The
address
is
114
northwest
6th
street
in
oklahoma
city,
laura
summized,
the
the
application
very
well
it
is
use.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
exterior
or
the
facade
of
the
building
it's
strictly
limited
to
inside,
and
if
the
committee
has
any
questions
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
them.
B
H
J
This
is
cory
bates.
I
would
move
that
we
provide
the
following
comments
to
the
planning
commission
regarding
spud01243
comment,
one
that
the
proposed
spud
does
not
include
language
affecting
the
review
process
or
requirements
for
changes
to
the
exterior
of
the
property
and
number
two
that
the
proposed
spud
retains
the
dbd-based
zoning
district
and
all
the
regulations
and
guidelines
related
to
the
purview
of
the
downtown
design
review
committee.
H
B
H
B
This
is
a
another
spud
and
this
is
coming
before
you
also
because
of
a
use
that
the
applicant
is
wanting
to
have
on
this
site
and
that
use
is
8300.10
and
the
title
of
it
is
animal
sales
and
services
kennels
and
veterinary
general
and
they're.
Asking
for
this
to
allow
exterior
animal
enclosure
in
dog
runs
in
this
staff
report.
It
was
very
similar
to
the
last
one
in
the
looking
at
uses
in
the
downtown
design
district
and
right
now
that
particular
use
is
not
allowed.
B
There
is
a
use,
however,
that
is
allowed
for
animals,
but
all
of
the
activity
has
to
occur
inside
the
building
and
that
would
is
allowed
by
right
and
so
she's
coming
before
us,
because
she
wants
to
have
the
outdoor
and
I
attempted
to
kind
of
show
it's
kind
of
hard.
It's
not
the
entire
parking
lot,
but
it's
about
two-thirds
of
the
parking
lot.
That's
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
where
she's
wanting
to
have
this
activity.
B
That
might
be
the
other
people,
I'm
not
really
sure,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
you
all
did
receive
all
those
correspondence
yesterday
that
I
sent
you
is
provided
on
the
website,
so
individuals
accessing
the
meeting.
Information
also
saw
that
information
and
the
staff
recommends
the
following
comments.
I
will
note
that
this
application
first
bud
is
not
asking
for
any
changes
in
the
design
review,
process,
design
requirements,
and
for
that
reason
you
just
read
these
same
ones
that
the
proposed
bud
does
not
include
language
effect.
I
I
guess
I
have
a
question
for
you,
laura
so
in
the
staff
recommendation,
you're
saying
that
you're
suggesting-
and
I
understand
it's
just
a
suggestion-
that
it
does
not
affect
the
requirements
for
changes
to
the
exterior
of
the
property,
so
you're
saying
there
would
be
no
ex
other
than
the
usage.
I
guess
is
that
correct.
I
B
Any
of
our
current
design
requirements
be
changed,
got
it.
They
came
back
to
do
anything
to
the
building.
They
would
still
have
to
comply.
I'm
sorry!
The
building
is
adjacent.
If
they
came
back
to
do
anything
to
this
red
square,
that's
all
that's
covered
by
this
bud.
It
would
have
to
meet
all
our
design
requirements.
I
J
B
J
B
And
what
I
will
say
and
legal,
please
interrupt
me
if
I
put
my
foot
in
my
mouth
that
is
zone
dvd,
it
is,
I
was
not
here
when
that
all
started
the
building
has
come
before
you
all
when
they
decided
to
put
ephesus
all
over
the
outside
of
it.
I
don't
know
any
of
you
remember
that
it
was
my
understanding
that
there
was
some
confusion
as
to
the
zoning,
because
most
of
that
block
is
zoned,
an
old
pud
1078,
which
is
not
under
your
purview,
but
I
don't
have
any
documentation
on.
B
A
G
D
B
And
I
was
just
going
to
point
out
for
the
chair,
the
first
person
that
I
have
down
on
the
list.
That
is
the
first
letter
that
I
had
gotten
it
just
rick
now
he's
on
the
call
he's
showing
he's
sitting
there
next
to
mr
and
if
I
mispronounce
your
last
name,
I'm
sorry
he's
waving
robert
robles
robles
and
they're
both
on
that
list
and
I'm
not
sure
who
else
might
be
on
that
list.
But
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
to
the
chair.
H
This
is
tony
blatt.
I
have
a
question
for
staff
is.
Is
it
correct,
then,
to
say
that
we
do
not
have
the
the
downtown
design
review
committee
does
not
have
a
voice
in
the
change
of
use
as
long
as
they
stay
within
the
guidelines
that
we
are
reviewing
different
cases
under?
Is
that
correct
I
mean?
Do
we
have
a
voice
or
a
comment
that
we
can't
make.
E
This
is
susan,
yeah
assistant,
since
this
is
a
rezoning
request
that
is
they're
asking
to
change
the
user
to
add
this
use
to
this
area.
So
I
think
you
do
have
the
ability
to
comment
and
make
a
recommendation
to
the
planning
commission
on
whether
or
not
you
think
that
this
is
an
appropriate
use.
For
this
I
mean
for
this
area.
F
This
is
katie
fordal
planning
department.
I'll
just
add
to
that
that
I
think
there
may
be
times
where
we're
reviewing
a
bud
where
there
is
where
the
only
thing
that's
proposed
is
a
change
in
use,
but
that
use
in
and
of
itself
is
going
to
trigger
physical
changes
to
the
property.
That
would
not
be
consistent
with
the
downtown
design
review
requirements
and-
and
that
would
be
you
know,
an
appropriate
place
to
to
not
recommend
approval
or
to
provide
other
considerations.
F
J
F
E
B
R
R
B
R
R
G
R
R
P
R
Now
miss
blair
would
like
to
address
you
people.
She
knows
more
about
the
business
that
she's
going
to
be
doing
than
anybody
and
her.
What
her
comments
will
also
address
all
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
by
the
people
who
sent
in
protest
letters
I'll
have
a
few
more
comments,
but
I
want
to
turn
over
to
miss
blair
now,
so
she
can
tell
you
all
about
what
her
business
is.
A
A
A
A
On
the
east
side
of
my
building,
I
share
a
stocking
fence
with
a
residential
house
that
backs
into
a
neighborhood
and
on
the
north
side
I
share.
Well,
it's
there's
a
the
oklahoma
city.
Water
department
has
a
canal
there,
but
on
the
other
side
of
that
there's
a
huge
apartment
complex,
I
have
998
pet
donors.
A
G
A
A
A
A
A
A
Our
dogs,
someone
had
commented
previously.
The
dogs
are
never
outside
the
time
that
they
may
be
outside
would
be
7
a.m
to
6
30
p.m.
The
dogs
will
be
surrounded.
I
think
laura
addressed
this.
The
dogs
will
be
surrounded
with
a
stockade
fence,
and
so
they
won't
be
taunted
by
any
outside
people
and,
furthermore,
there's
a
caregiver
with
them
out
there.
A
A
A
Ninth
street
parking
lot
one
sorry,
it's
three
northeast
eighth,
and
that
is
the
8th
street
market
and
it
came
in
after
9th
street
parking
lot,
there's
also
a
brand
new
housing
edition
that
is
going
in
361
feet
away
from
the
parking
lot
and
that
is
33.
North
east
7,
31,
north
east,
7th
and
25
northeast
7th.
A
A
Also,
I
want
to
address
the
in
the
in
the
letters
that
were
sent
to
you,
the
dumping
of
waste.
Again,
I'm
not
quite
sure
the
perception
of
what
happens
here,
but
every
like,
I
said,
every
single
time,
a
dog
pees
or
poops.
It's
it's
picked
up
disposed
of,
so
someone
mentioned
the
runoff
of
rain
water.
A
I'm
assuming
that
these
people
also
have
concerns
about
rainwater
running
off
the
myriad
gardens
dog
park
and
scissortail
dog
park,
midtown
mutts
dog
park,
it's
all
of
the
same
rain
and
all
the
same
runoff,
so
9th
street
parking
lot.
So
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
the
environmental
concern
is
about
that.
B
B
S
There
we
go.
Can
you
see
me?
Yes,
okay?
Well,
let
me
just
start
with
just
with
three
minutes
isn't
much
time.
Let
me
just
just
tell
you
who
I
am.
First
of
all,
I'm
the
president
of
donald
properties.
We
own
two
buildings
that
are
within
300
feet
of
the
applicant
and
the
case
we're
gonna
make
is
the
phone
the
there
are
a
lot
of
externalities
involved
with
a
dog
an
outside
dog
park.
We've
got
the
potential
parking,
that's
going
to
be
annoying
to
tenants.
S
We've
got
potentially
voters
which
are
going
to
be
annoying
to
tenants.
Maybe
the
person
will
control
the
parking
and
maybe
they
won't.
We
would
be
then
put
in
if
we
have
to
monitor
this
and
we
have
some
legal
recourse.
That's
going
to
be
very
expensive
and
under
current
zoning
we
don't
have
to
bite
into
that.
So
I'll
just
be
blunt,
we've
just
in
our
own
company.
We
are
gross
rent
of
the
two
buildings
we
have.
We
have
three
buildings
in
there:
the
growth
rents
550
000
a
year.
S
I
am,
and
you
could
pretty
much
multiply
that
number
by
four.
So
to
be
blunt,
I
think
it
is
my
guess
would
be.
It
would
reduce
our
rentability
by
about
ten
percent
for
this
dog
park
to
be
there
and
that's
gonna
cost
us
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars.
Now,
that's
only
300,
that's
only
gonna
cost
us
three-quarters
of
a
million
dollars.
If
the
zoning
has
changed
now.
S
S
Loss
is
simply
to
enclose
the
dog
park,
a
simple
enclosure,
an
enclosed
building
can
be
done
for
as
little
as
twenty
dollars
a
square
foot
and
that's
what
I
would
suggest
if
they
enclose
the
structure
that
there's
no
monitoring
required,
whether
they're
doing
this
at
night
during
the
day
or
they're
cleaning
the
dogs
properly
or
their
smells
they're
not
gonna,
be
contained
within
the
building,
and
that
would
be
my
suggestion.
Just
enclose
the
extra
area.
S
The
problem
they
got
is
that
obviously
the
building
that
granted
isn't
large
enough,
so
they
should
just
make
an
enclosed
dog
run,
and
then
there
won't
be
any
issue
we
wouldn't
be
here
protesting
and
that's
allowable
under
their
current
zoning,
and
that's
my
recommendation
and
with
three
minutes
that's
probably
about
all
I
can
say
I
can
introduce
mr
robles.
It
is
representing
two
people
to
show
that
he
sees
a
potential
untoward
things
which
will
illustrate
the
problems.
I've
alluded
to.
T
Well,
I'd
like
to
use
my
three
minutes
and
also
mike
berryman,
I'm
an
attorney
he's
authorized
me
to
speak
on
his
back
because
he
couldn't
be
here
for
the
meeting,
but
he
did
submit
his
written
protest,
which
you
have
that
will
be
mike
barron
enterprises
who's
within
the
area
affected
by
the
barking
dogs.
Now
then,
we're
talking
40
to
50,
maybe
more
dogs
you've
got
a
7
000
square
foot
building
in
closing
dogs
plus
another
7
000
feet
proposed
for
outdoor
exercise.
T
However,
it's
not
limited
outdoor
exercises,
outdoor
chemical
use,
which
is
currently
prohibited
by
by
the
zoning
requirements.
Once
you
give
the
use,
then
any
the
sky's
the
limit.
So
we
protest
that
issue
now
the
want
to
bring
your
attention
to
raining
these
dogs,
depending
on
how
many
dogs
you
have
are
not
all
going
to
be
indoors
they're
going
to
be
outdoors
40
to
50
dogs
outside
as
soon
as
they
hear
another
dog
they're
all
going
to
start
barking.
Now,
then,
I
don't
know
there.
T
Is
there
going
to
be
a
limit
on
the
number
of
dogs
that
the
city
is
going
to
monitor?
This
would
be
incredibly
difficult.
The
city
right
now
does
not
even
monitor
outdoor
parking
and
issue
tickets
on
northwest
5th
for
various
reasons.
Who
knows
why?
I
suspect
that
no
one
is
going
to
be
monitoring
the
activities
of
the
doghouse.
Now
then,
if
men
were
angels,
we
wouldn't
have
native
laws,
we
wouldn't
have
zoning
requirements,
unfortunately
they're
not,
and
what
what
the
city
has
has
encountered.
T
Previous
previous
to
2014,
the
state
laws
were
very
strict.
You
could
not
have
a
kennel
within
2500
feet
of
a
school
there's
emerson
school
well
within
2500
feet.
There
are
churches
all
around
of
this
proposed
area.
We
have
the
public
metro
station
with
children
walking
up
and
down
the
streets.
Now
then
40
to
50
dogs
outdoors
in
a
concentrated
area
of
100
feet
by
a
hundred
and
basically
within
five
thousand
square
feet.
T
T
Now
then,
I
live
at
four
one,
one
and
a
half
northwest
fifth
street.
I
will
be
living
next
door
to
this
county
and
that
is
why
I'm
up
in
arms
about
this
now
then-
and
so
I
don't
wish
to
adopt
a
striking
tone,
but
I
wish
to
be
emphatic
and
to
tell
you
that
I
will
be
the
person
most
affected
by
this,
because
I
don't
go
home
at
night.
I
go
upstairs
to
my
home.
I
don't
drive
off
and
leave
this
I'm
going
to
be
living
next
door
to
a
camel
24
7..
T
She
then
informed
me
that
oh,
the
city
informed
her
that
they
had
made
a
mistake
on
their
building
permit
and
in
the
meantime,
she
also
told
me
that
she
was
told
by
her
landlord
that
the
so-called
use
that
she
wanted
to
use
was
legal.
Obviously
she
didn't
take
the
chance
or
didn't
decide
to
challenge
her
lease
before
spending
money
before
committing
to
money
and-
and
I
would
like
to
bring
your
attention,
how
does
one
get
a
building
permit
before
one
signs
a
lease?
T
Obviously,
she
signed
the
lease
then
got
the
building
permit,
because
you
can't
just
go
somewhere
and
say
I
think
I'm
going
to
build
here
and
not
have
any
rights
and
then
you'll
get
a
building
permit.
You
got
to
have
plans.
You've
got
to
have
a
location.
This
was
already
decided
months
in
advance
and
that
dog
won't
hunt.
T
So
to
speak
and
as
for
being
committed
for
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
lease
payments,
she
should
have
certainly
done
her
homework
as
to
whether
the
zoning
would
allow
it
it's
a
public
record,
and
certainly
my
point
would
be
that.
Yes,
as
mr
dallas
said,
the
whole
problem
could
be
solved
with
an
enclosure.
It
will
cost
a
little
more
money,
but
she
has
a
sizable
investment,
so
she
should
enclose
it
to
protect
her
investment.
T
T
Why
should
we
be
taxed
with
any
loss
related
to
having
a
dog
park,
and
why
should
we
be
discounted
in
our
expectations
of
future
growth,
future
profits,
future
economic
advantage,
because
somebody
had
decides
they
don't
want
to
enclose
it
and
it
would
be
cheaper
for
them
to
go
to
the
government
and
say
it's:
okay
change,
the
zoning
just
for
me,
I'm
gonna
be
nice,
I'm
an
angel.
I
have
all
the
best
intentions.
T
H
D
B
S
S
While
all
of
us
are
here,
and
so
that's
why
they
just
asked
for
your
comment,
which
has
no
it's
not
in
any
way
since
binding
on
anyone.
It's
just
merely
what
your
take
is
on
the
situation,
and
I
I
think
basically
I
was
a
professor
of
economics
for
years.
We
have
a
problem
here.
What
I
call
an
externality,
in
other
words,
if
for
me
to
make
money,
I've
got
to
cost
you
money,
then
you
should
reimburse
the
people
for
the
externality
and
the
externality.
S
S
Well
because
you're
imposing
on
the
rights
of
other
people
and
is
costing
them
money
to
for
you
to
be
allowed
to
do
what
you
want
to
do,
which
is
like
why
you
shouldn't
be
making
loud
noises
after
11
o'clock,
and
I
I
think
what
I
want
to
be
sure
that
that
your
committee
understands
is
that
just
a
very
small
reduction
in
the
rentability
of
office
space
in
the
area
has
a
very
huge
cost.
It's
sometimes
hard
to
comprehend.
It's
like
I
mentioned
just
just
if
it
just
affects
our
revenue.
Ten
percent.
S
And
that's
just
us
there's
other
people
that
really
are
affected
even
more
than
we
are
that
have
protested,
and
another
thing
I'll
mention
is
that
we
didn't
have
very
much
time
to
prepare
for
this
and
a
lot
of
people
are
on
vacation
and
that's
what
makes
it
difficult
delivering.
Otherwise,
mp,
probably
a
lot
more
people
show
up
to
testify.
I
Okay,
because
I
I
do
have
some
thoughts
on
this-
I
am
a
commercial
real
estate
broker
specializing
in
office
buildings,
and
I
am
very
familiar
with
this
area,
and
you
know
I
am
I'm
reading
all
the
letters.
I
I
understand
there's
some
concern
about
the
evening
noise,
but
I
am
much
more
concerned
with
the
daytime
barking.
I
The
embark
station
is
immediately
to
the
east
and
it
causes
a
great
deal
of
pedestrian
traffic
on
that
block,
and
so
even
with
a
stockade
fence,
as
most
of
us
know
that
walk
our
neighborhood
that
doesn't
keep
dogs
from
noticing
you're
there
and
keep
them
from
barking.
It
happens
a
lot
and
I
doubt
an
exterior
caregiver
is
going
to
be
able
to
control
that
barking.
I
So
I
think
we
should
assume
that
during
the
day
and
at
night
with
that
embark
station,
there
there's
just
going
to
be
a
lot
that
will
trigger
the
dogs
regarding
the
9th
street
facility.
That's
not
surrounded
by
office
buildings.
That's
in
the!
In
my
mind,
that
is
a
completely
different
kind
of
location.
I
It
is
it's
more
of
a
retail
location.
This
particular
building
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
location
because
I
represented
the
former
tenant
family
builders
when
they
were
in
there
and
they
moved
out.
I
was
representing
them,
helping
them
find
another
location,
so
I've
been
in
that
building.
I've
been
in
that
parking
lot,
it
kind
of
sits
down
and
it's
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
office
buildings
to
the
north
to
the
northeast,
and
then,
of
course,
mr
dowell
has
all
of
his
properties
to
the
west.
I
I
I
just
think
the
the
noise
from
that
parking
lot
is
going
to
carry
and
there's
only
a
very
narrow
air
alley
that
separates
that
that
property
with
the
buildings
to
the
north.
So
I
you
know,
I
I
think,
there's
a
really
strong
chance
that
the
landlords
all
around
this
are
going
to
feel
the
impact
and
have
difficulty
leasing
their
properties.
I
Because
of
that-
and
I'm
you
know,
I'm
very
sorry
that
mrs
ms
blair
is
in
this
position
physician,
but
our
our
obligation
on
this
committee
is
really
to
address
the
district,
and
I
have
to
look
at
her
use
and
it
doesn't
come.
It
doesn't
complement
the
area,
it's
not
compat
compat.
Oh
sorry,
compatible
with
it
does
not
enhance
it
in
any
way.
So
I'm
struggling,
I
don't
see
a
good
reasoning,
a
good
reason
to
change
the
current
zoning
based
on
this
proposed
use.
K
I
would
have
to
agree
with
julie,
I'm
also
a
real
estate
broker,
really.
The
impact
that
I
see
as
well
as
julie
is
the
sound
the
area
where
the
building
sits
is
pretty
enclosed
if
there
was
a
bigger
open
space
and
that
would
just
dissipate
the
noise,
but
at
this
point
where
it's
located
at
it's
just,
it
doesn't
get
even
more
loud
as
it
would
just
bounce
off
the
walls
everywhere.
K
K
J
J
I
also
feel
like
this
is
an
urban
place.
This
is
the
a
place
where
noise
is
part
of
life.
The
bus
station
to
the
south
does
generate
a
lot
of
noise
on
its
own.
I
think
when
we
talk
about
noise
during
daytime
hours
daytime
business
hours,
that
is
a
result
of
being
in
a
city.
I've
that's
been
my
experience.
J
I've
also
been
around
the
dog
park
on
9th
numerous
times
before
covid.
My
my
office
is
just
on
the
other
side
of
235
and
I've
walked
by
that
property
often
going
to
get
lunch
and
such
and
I
have
not
experienced
excessive
barking.
I'm
sure
there's
a
bark
here
and
there,
but
I
haven't
experienced
it
the
way
it's
being
assumed
at
this
point-
and
I
also
again
I
I
am
sensitive
to
the
surrounding
building
owners
and
their
rentability.
G
J
J
I'm
sure
it
will
play
a
part
in
the
rentability
but
to
to
assume
that
it's
going
to
dramatically
reduce
the
ability
to
rent
is
also
unconfirmed.
So
I
I'm
on
the
fence
with
this
again
I'll.
Just
say
that
I
I
do
support
the
two
statements
that
staff
has
provided
or
recommends
in
the
staff
report,
in
communicating
to
the
planning
commission
as
they
relate
to
the
requirements
of
the
dvd,
the
design,
regulations
and
guidelines
that
we
do
oversee.
I
That's
going
to
enhance
the
area.
In
my
in
my
mind,
it
doesn't
complement
it
the
existing
owners
that
have
made
a
commitment
to
that
to
that
area
of
downtown
it
there's
there's
not
good
reasoning.
In
my
mind
that
says
we
should
put
this
at
risk
for
those
property
owners
who
have
made
that
commitment.
I
This
will
be
a
big
thing,
and-
and
so
I'm
not
hearing
enough
good
reasoning
enough
enough
just
that-
I'm
not
hearing
a
solid
good
reason
why
we
should
create
that
sort
of
impact
to
the
district
to
the
area
when
it
doesn't
enhance
the
area,
it
doesn't
even
complement
it.
So
that's
that's
my
rebuttal
to
what
you
were.
H
H
Tenant,
I
also
agree
that
downtowns
are
full
of
lively,
interactive
spaces
that
have
a
whole
lot
of
different
uses,
but
at
the
same
time
I
have
to
kind
of
lean
towards
the
individuals
that
deal
with
this
on
a
daily
basis.
That
is
their
profession
and
definitely
what
julian
rosie
said.
I
took
that
very
very
seriously.
H
I
A
A
A
There
are
over
2
000
dogs
in
midtown,
downtown
area.
The
only
boarding
facility
that
they
have
is
the
new
facility
that
opened
just
recently
the
okc
vet
campus
night
street
parking
lot
does
not
board
dogs,
so
in
essence,
these
people
have
nowhere
to
board
their
dogs.
So
I
I
would.
I
would
say
that
this
is
an
asset
to
the
downtown
midtown
area.
I
think
it's
needed
again.
I'm
just
going
to
go
back
to
the
business
growth
that
has
happened
around
9th
street
parking
lot.
There
is
an
office
complex.
A
A
So
and
also.
I
would
like
to
address
my
timeline
that
occurred
with
the
mishap
that
happened
with
the
city.
When
I
initially
the
day
that
I
looked
at
the
building
my
realtor
and
I
walked,
I
said
I
will
not
do
nothing
until
I
go
to
the
zoning
and
see
what
that
looks
like
we
physically.
This
was
in
january,
we
physically
back
when
you
could
walked
to
the
building,
went
to
the.
I
don't
know
third,
fourth
floor.
Whatever
it
is,
the
zoning
place
ask
them.
A
A
A
Three
days
after
I
started
demolition
of
this
building,
my
neighbor
came
over
and
asked
for
some
clarification.
I
went
over
to
visit
with
him.
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
anybody
could
think
that
I
could
call
mr
smith
and
say.
Oh,
I
tore
up
your
building.
I
went
out
of
my
lease.
You
know
yeah.
I
had
already
obtained
a
350
000
loan
at
that
time,
but
the
building
had
started
demolition,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
timeline
that
I
went
through
with
that.
R
R
R
R
G
R
So,
mr
roadley's,
I
think
his
concerns
are
aren't
nearly
as
great
as
what
he
would
want.
He
would
have
you
believe,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
barriers
between
his
space
and
where
the
dogs
are
located
and
the
dogs
won't
be
outside
at
night
anyway.
They'll
all
be
inside
and
that's
a
perfectly
allowed
use.
R
G
R
R
J
J
Two
that
the
proposed
bud
retains
the
dvd
based
zoning
district
and
all
the
regulations
and
guidelines
related
to
the
purview
of
the
downtown
design
review
committee
meeting
and
three,
a
recommendation
to
the
planning
commission
to
watch
this
video
and
hear
the
discussion
that
has
taken
place
today.
In
our
forum.
K
B
C
G
B
B
B
B
There
have
not
been
many
of
them
installed
yet
if
there's
one
just
down
the
street
from
the
office
here
on
walker
by
the
goodyear
place,
that's
through
four
blocks
north
of
my
office
and
it's
up
next
to
their
sign.
So
you
can't
really
see
it
very
well,
and
so
we
we're
basically
looking
for
to
make
sure
that
it
matches,
because
we
can
do
that
with
the
color.
It
is
my
understanding
that
public
works
no
longer
allows
wooden
poles,
because
we
always
we
didn't
really
like
the
wooden
poles
anyway
and.
B
B
B
B
B
Oh
well,
I
don't
know
we
haven't
heard
when
that's
going
to
be.
We
were
in
there
for
some
staff
training
on
the
new
equipment,
so
we've
seen
what
it
looks
like
and,
oh,
my
goodness
are
you
guys
in
for
a
change,
touch
screens
all
kinds
of
stuff,
it's
kind
of
cool,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
since
then.
That
was
a
few
weeks
ago,
so
you
know
we'll
be
getting
back
with
you
at
this
point.
We're
still
you
know
for
september
at
least
we're
still
looking
virtual,
but
we
will
definitely
let
you
know.
H
I
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
your
patience.
I
know
that
these
meetings
can
be
challenging
at
times
and
especially
when
we're
doing
them
virtually.
It
makes
it
even
more
so,
but
I
appreciate
that
everybody's
input
conversation
it
makes
it
easier
whenever
we've
got
a
good
group.
So
thank
you.
So
we
don't
know
if
we
have
a
meeting
in
september
you'll.
Let
us
know
next
week.