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The regular monthly meeting of the Oklahoma City Historic Preservation Commission, via video conference, for June 3, 2020.
C
E
F
Excellent
perfect.
Thank
you
first
off.
Thank
you
for
all
of
the
participants
that
have
joined
us
today.
This
is
the
June
3rd
2020,
Historic,
Preservation,
Commission,
meeting
I,
believed
meeting
procedures
or
I'm
sorry
I
guess
we
need
to
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
take
roll
call
first.
So
with
that
being
said,
can
we
go
ahead
and
and
call
this
to
order.
G
E
F
Thank
you
so
much,
okay,
so
item
1b
meeting
process,
the
procedures
for
this
video
conference
were
published
in
the
agenda
and
I
would
ask
anybody
that
is
going
to
be
participating
in
today's
conference.
Call
they
review
these
specifics
noted
in
that
particular
section,
a
couple
things
that
I
will
note
as
far
as
certificate
of
appropriateness
when
application
has
been
approved,
been
approved
and
after
a
10-day
protest
period,
has
expired.
That
HP
officer
will
now
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
the
applicant
city.
F
Construction
permits
cannot
be
issued
until
the
CA
has
been
issued
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
contact
HP
staff
for
final
design,
review
inspection
or
to
withdraw
items
that
will
not
be
completed
as
for
appeals
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
any
person
aggrieved
by
any
decision
granting
or
denying
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
They
appeal
to
the
Oklahoma
City
Board
adjustments.
All
appeals
shall
be
made
within
10
days
of
the
Commission
decision
by
filing
a
written
notice
of
appeal
with
the
clerk
of
the
board
of
adjustments.
F
A
This
is
Katie
riddle
and
the
search
preservation
officer
staffed
in
the
planning
department
and
the
item
you
see
on
your
agenda
is
to
inform
everyone
that
starting
July
1.
We
will
be
distributing
meeting
packets
electronically.
This
is
to
save
paper,
save
trees,
save
money
and
kind
of
move
ourselves
into
the
21st
century,
so
we'll
be
distributing
them
electronically
to
Commission
and
committee
members
and
then
also
sending
them
via
email
to
applicants
to
other
interested
parties.
H
A
I
do
I'm
sorry
by
the
way.
Yes,
one
other
thing:
I
wanted
to
just
remind
everyone
as
you're
listening,
and
this
is
in
the
applet
in
the
agenda,
but
just
so
that
folks,
who
have
called
in
or
have
joined
the
zoo
meeting,
know
if
the
meaning
is
interrupted
or
we
lose
a
connection
for
any
reason
we
will
try
for
the
next
30
minutes
or
so
to
reconnect.
F
Thank
you,
Katie
I,
think
all
of
the
commissioners
are
thrilled
that
we
will
not
be
receiving
those
packets
any
more,
probably
all
the
citizens
of
Oakland
City,
with
the
amount
of
paper
that
we
use.
So
that's
definitely
a
good
thing
going
forward.
Let's
see
item
number
3
we
need
to
accept
or
we
need
to
discuss
accepting
the
minutes.
From
the
previous
meeting,
a
question
denied
to
my
fellow
commissioners.
Has
everybody
had
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes
from
the
previous
meeting
at
the
May
6th
meeting?
D
F
F
E
A
F
A
I,
don't
have
anything
special
to
report
I,
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
from
code
enforcement
joining
us
this
afternoon.
As
always,
if
you
have
questions
about
a
specific
item
on
the
code
enforcement
report,
you
can
follow
up
with
staff
or
contact
the
city's
Action
Center.
If
you
see
an
actual
citation
number
listed-
and
that
tells
you
it
is
progressed
from
a
Notice
of
Violation
to
a
citation
and
you
can
reference
that
citation
number
when
you
contact
either
code
enforcement
staff
or
HP
staff,
action
center,
etc.
F
J
K
D
F
Thank
You
vice
chair
Phillip,
so
anybody
that
was
on
the
consent
docket
unless
they
want
to
stick
around
I,
may
leave
at
this
particular
point
in
time
as
we
are
going
to
move
into
our
cases
for
individual
consideration
again,
thank
you
for
everybody
that
was
here
and
feel
free
to
stick
around.
If
you'd,
like,
let's
see,
item
D
cases
for
individual
consideration,
item
number
one:
HP
CA,
one:
nine:
zero,
zero,
zero.
Three
seven
at
six
hundred
Northwest
16th,
Street,
Katie
I-
believe
we've
got
a
specific
action
to
take
on
that
one.
A
Well,
we
have
the
absence
of
an
action
on
that
one.
We
staff
realize
that
this
one
was
noticed
improperly,
so
this
application
will
be
moved
to
July
the
July
1
meeting
with
no
no
action
can
be
taken
on
it,
and
the
applicant
will
actually
have
some
revisions
for
you
between
now
and
then
anyway.
So
we'll
see
this
one
again
at
the
July
first
meeting
of
the
Commission.
F
A
This
is
Shepherd
wore
to
consideration
and
possible
action
on
application
by
John
rank
e4,
Linkous
Mac
for
low
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
one
construct
addition
elective-
and
this
is
an
application
that
the
Commission
has
seen
previously
requested.
Some
revisions
to
the
proposed
design
and
those
revisions
have
been
responded
to,
and
staff
has
recommended
approval
for
this
application.
L
Am
present,
this
is
John
Ricky
on
behalf
of
myself
and
Linc
low,
and
and
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
and
mostly
just
want
to
know
what
further
questions
you
may
have,
and
so
man,
Alan
I,
would
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
specific.
We
I
made
that
floorplan
with
you
in
mind
and
because
you
asked
for
it,
but-
and
this
was
the
I
taught
myself
how
to
use
a
3d
modeling
program
on
this
particular
deal
and
it
was
a
challenge.
F
L
L
J
C
A
A
J
E
A
This
is
located
in
mr.
Park
for
six
consideration
of
hospital
action
on
application
by
Jeff
Blake
GNB
associates
for
Tim
and
Lisa
Weaver
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
eight
revised
item
to
garage
construction,
to
remove
windows
on
the
rear,
south
and
east
side
facing
adjacent
properties
elective.
This
is
a
construction
of
a
garage
that
was
previously
approved
as
they've
gone
through
the
permitting
process.
F
F
D
N
North
Assad
photograph
is
really
telling
of
how
close
the
structure
is,
the
property
line
that
fence
being
pretty
accurately
located
on
the
site
easement.
So
it
is
well
inside
five
feet
more
like
foot
and
a
half
to
two
feet,
probably
from
property
line
of
the
east
and
on
the
south.
The
structure
is
on
the
property
line,
but
there
is
a
utility
easement
that
kind
of
misrepresents
what
looks
like
they
have
a
bigger
backyard,
but
it's
actually
so
like.
M
D
N
N
Short
history
is,
we
were
trying
to
save
the
structure
and
once
we
got
pumpkin
Sal
and
saw
the
foundation,
it
wasn't
savable.
So
we
went
back
and
submitted
for
a
demolition
and
a
new
construction
of
the
same
structure,
the
same
footprint,
and
then
we
ran
into
fire
code
issues
once
we
were
going
through
for
a
minute
and
that's
why
it
was
continued.
So
it's
traditionally.
B
B
N
Well
so
I
absolutely
I
mean
we
know,
what's
allowable
in
terms
of
Windows,
that
comply
to
the
HP
standards
and
those
are
all
wood
windows.
Wood
windows
will
never
meet
a
fire
rating
that
the
city
is
looking
for,
and
so
windows
become
a
not
a
doable
thing
and
in
this
residence
you
know
type
of
construction.
N
N
F
N
The
only
thing
you
could
do
and
I
believe
five
foot
is
the
minimum
and
if
you
look
at
the
photographs
that
were
shown
earlier,
the
right,
Bay
or
West
Bay
is
already
very
challenging
too.
Okay,
that's
a
great
shot,
so
you
can
see
the
city
trash.
Can
it's
it's
borderline
impossible
to
make
the
turn
to
get
into
that
right,
Dhiraj
door?
But
if
you
move
that
structure
the
amount
that
would
be
required
to
get
it
off,
you
know
to
make
it
fire
code
allowable
for
the
windows,
the
turn.
N
D
J
D
J
D
N
D
N
Love
for
that
to
be
true,
there
was
no
comments
on
reduction
of
window
size.
Minh
line
said
this
window
at
this.
If
you're
gonna
have
an
opening
on
this
on
these
two
elevations,
these
windows
must
meet
in
one
hour,
fire
rating
and
a
1
hour.
Fire
rated
window
is
again
like
a
metal
constructed.
You
know,
grid
wire,
you
know
thing
doesn't
if
you
wouldn't
put
it
on
this
building
I'm
certain
you
would
like.
K
N
K
N
N
Oh,
so,
if
actually
not
my
house,
it's
my
clients
and
we
actually,
we
did
a
dry
run
because
you
know
she.
Access
to
these
garage
doors
has
always
been
challenging
and
and
I
stood
there
and
watched
her
with
her
sedan,
not
even
something
like
a
Yukon,
just
a
sedan,
and
it's
all.
She
could
do
it's
to
hit
that
where
it
stands
right
now
she
wasn't
even
getting
it
first
attempt
so.
D
N
Would
put
in
a
new
foundation
that
was
the
deal
breaker
as
we
pulled
the
contents
out
of
the
garage.
We
started
to
find
areas
that
had
no
foundation
if
you
lose
bricks
for
foundation,
just
a
hodge
podge
and
nothing
that
with
integrity.
So
the
idea
is
to
drop
the
structure,
preserve
the
footprint
of
the
original
construction,
but
go
back
with
a
foundation
that
has
integrity.
J
J
J
J
And
then
walls
are
if
you're,
let's
see
here,
if
you're
less
than
five
feet,
you
have
to
have
a
one-hour
rate
to
wall,
so
the
wall
would
be
rated,
but
your
windows
would
not
have
to
be
rated
as
I
understand
it.
You
know
I
mean
and
I'm
pretty
sure.
I've
done
this
on
a
project
but
again
I'm,
not
the
building.
You
know
I'm,
not
the
reviewer,
so
I
can't
welcome
it's
a
Authority
out
in
jurisdiction,
so
I.
N
N
F
N
My
clients
are
indifferent
to
losing
the
windows.
What
these
pictures
don't
show
is,
you
know,
and
I
mentioned
it
earlier.
There
is
a
as
tall
as
that
structure.
There
is
a
belt
of
bamboo,
that
is,
you
know,
40
30
feet
long
or
as
long
as
the
garage
footprint
and
probably
15
20
feet
deep.
So
there's
nothing
but
kind
of
you
know
the
dead
side
of
bamboo
facing
these
windows.
They're,
not
redeeming
the
windows.
N
B
B
You
know
bamboo
plants
are
here
today
and
can
be
gone
tomorrow,
so
I
mean
that's
not
really
compelling
for
me,
but
I
agree
with
you
that
for
me
maintaining
the
way
the
garage
looks
from
the
street.
Mm-Hmm
is
really
kind
of
most
important
and
I
have
appreciated
that
your
clients-
and
you
have
work
to
to
do
this
as
historically
as
possible
sure
because
she
had
lots
of
challenges.
So
for
me
and
honestly,
you
know
difficult
to
get
in
your
garages,
not
my
priority
either.
B
N
My
experience
with
you
all
is
that
preserving
the
original
look
to
the
neighborhood
comes
first,
which
is
why
we've
kind
of
insisted
both
for
function
which
I
realized
the
secondary,
but
for
appearances.
That
garage
has
always
sat
at
that
footprint
and
it's
always
had
two
doors
like
that,
and
so
that
was
our
first
priority.
F
D
H
I
C
F
H
F
A
Is
an
Jefferson
Park
for
two
consideration
and
possible
action
on
application
by
gage
Calhoun
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Two
three
removes
fascia
of
historic
bracketed
cornice
boards
and
replaced
with
one
by
eight
solid
fascia
at
gable
in
four
remove
storage
papers,
wood
columns
and
trim
and
replace
each
with
two
six
by
six
stain
box
posts
and
trim
atop
a
13
Bert
Pierce
for
detached
front
wall
at
garage
from
house
and
relocate
leave,
existing
historic,
non
roof
connection
in
place
and
install
with
hostess
support.
Six
extend
driveway
to
meet
new
front
wall
of
garage.
A
Seven
install
series
of
concrete
slabs
with
drains
around
the
house
divert
water
to
the
backyard
and
9
install
tongue
in
groups
office
at
front
of
garage
at
ease
all
elective.
This
is
the
first
time
the
Commission
has
seen
this
application.
We
have
administrative
Lea
proved
several
in-kind,
repairs
and
replacements
at
this
property,
but
these
were
all
items
that
could
not
be
administratively
approved,
and
so
there
before
you
today.
B
F
O
So
I
mean
I'm
really
here.
If
you
guys
have
any
questions
I'm
here
to
just
kind
of
field
those
and
help
out
as
much
as
I
can
I
would
say.
A
lot
of
the
things
like
the
concrete
slabs
and
the
movement
of
the
garage
face
are
for
the
longevity
of
the
building
in
the
application
document
packet
in
there
somewhere.
O
I've
got
some
pictures
in
my
basement
that
you
can
see
where
I'm
really
trying
to
mainly
put
some
drainage
in
is
on
the
south
side,
there's
a
very
visible
and
distinct
pattern
of
water
drainage
soaking
into
the
ground.
On
that
side
of
the
house.
Due
to
the
slope
that
the
house
sets
on
as
well
as
the
kind
of
jut
out
that
the
south
side
wall
has,
and
it
is
just
kind
of
wrecking
the
basement
foundation
anytime,
especially
this
time
of
year.
F
Guess
one
of
the
questions
that
I've
got
is
an
item
for
we
do
have
remove
its
historic
tapered
wood
columns,
replacing
with
two
6x6
stain
columns
a
couple
of
things
that
I
struggle
with
there
don't
know
that
we've
typically
allowed
the
stain
columns
to
be
installed
and
removal
of
the
tapered
wood
columns.
That
feels
like
a
pretty
significant
architectural
feature
of
the
house,
and
so
for
me,
it's
that
part
is
a
little
bit
concerning,
but
I'm
curious
what
others
might
think
as
well.
B
A
So
this
is
Katie
Lynn,
and
that
is
one
where
I'm
sorry.
We
typically
will
list
additional
information
on
that.
It's
not
so
much
additional
information,
as
perhaps
consideration
of
alternatives
to
that
amount
of
paving
alternative
proposals.
We
typically
have
not
supported
or
approved
filling
in
the
paving
all
the
way
along
the
side
of
the
house.
We
have
many
houses
like
this
in
many
of
our
districts
that
have
little
projections
and
in
sets,
and
we
often
get
requests
to
just
pave
over
all
of
that.
A
It
really
changes
the
character
of
the
property,
especially
when
you
get
several
of
them
side
by
side,
and
so
we've
tried
to
work
with
property
owners
on
other
solutions.
You
know
french
drains
other
kind
of
landscaping
techniques
to
keep
some
some
permeable
space
there
and
not
just
use
paving
as
the
solution
now.
Some
of
these
areas
on
his
property
are
pretty
minimally
visible
from
the
street
and
that
Pavey
may
not
have
as
much
of
an
impact,
but
that
was
what
we
were
referring
to
for
the
additional
information
and
the
continuance
recommendation.
B
D
J
Agree-
and
this
is
this
house-
is
actually
a
few
blocks
north
of
my
own,
so
I
appreciate
you
taking
on
this
house
and
obviously
needs
a
little
bit
of
love,
so
I'm
glad
that
you're
putting
some
work
into
it
it'll
be
a
great
addition
to
the
neighborhood
and
I
kind
of
concur
with
some
of
the
other
comments.
As
far
as
Taylor's
comment
on
the
columns
in
the
front,
you
know
I
we
have
a
pretty
clear,
current
design.
You
know
we
we
know.
What's
there
now
it
kind
of
matches
the
other
houses
adjacent
to
it.
J
All
that
same
block,
so
I
don't
see
a
compelling
reason
why
we
should
kind
of
reinvent
those
columns
and
then,
as
far
as
the
granite
is
concerned,
you
know
you've
got
a
pretty
good
slope
going
front
to
back
so
I
think
I.
Think
you're
gonna
have
water
running
off.
I
do
see
where
you
have
that
one
bump
out
where
water
might
click,
but
you
know
I,
think
that
could
be
handled
with
a
French
drain
or
you
know
you
could
even
do
a
little
bit
of
extra
grading
to
kind
of
slope
it
out
of
that
corner.
J
I
think
there
are
some
solutions
there
that
don't
involve
paving
that
because
I
think,
especially
with
that
Drive
adjacent
to
it
you'd
end
up
with
a
pretty
big
mass
of
concrete
there,
which
I
think
would
detract
from
the
overall
character,
although
as
far
as,
if
I'm
looking
at
it
correctly
I
do
think
it
makes
sense
to
put
that
kind
of
drainage
like
a
drainage
or
great
in
front
of
the
garage,
because
that
is
sloping
down
towards
the
garage.
So
I
definitely
think
you
want
to
do
something
there,
which
you've
shown
so
I.
J
Think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
yeah,
I
kind
of
agree
with
my
commissioners
as
well
as
far
as
you
know,
the
cornice
and
some
of
the
trim
and
things
like
that.
You
know
it's
I,
don't
see
a
compelling
reason
why
you
know
I
mean
I,
think
you
could
absolutely
replace
some
kind
and
I
think
it
definitely
needs
to
be
replaced.
It
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
rot
and
you
know
some
warping,
and
so
it
definitely
needs
some
work.
J
But
you
know
it
does
have
a
lot
of
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
great
house.
It's
got
a
lot
of
character,
especially
you
know
those
those
enjoys
with
the
they
kind
of
have
the
that's
spacing
in
between
those
are
you
know
that
adds
a
lot
of
character
to
the
house.
I
think
it
gonna,
be.
You
know,
I
think
it'd
be
great.
You
know
personally
to
maintain
that
if
we,
if
we
could
so
anyway,
those
are
kind
of
my
initial
comments
on
those
items.
J
O
That's
right
there
and
there's
a
bit
of
gravel
and
rocks
that
sit
down
in
that
that
dip,
which
I
found
with
my
weed
eater
in
my
shin.
But
it
definitely
looks
as
if
french
drains
have
been
previously
installed
and
it
hasn't
quite
solved
the
extent
of
the
problem.
Just
because
when
it
does
rain,
I
mean
really
a
gargantuan
amount
of
water
ends
up
right
there
at
that
pocket.
O
O
O
But
I
I,
just
I,
don't
from
looking
at
French
drains
and
how
they
work
in
the
amount
of
water.
That's
going
into
the
basement
down
there.
It's
it's
something
that
I
feel
like
would
be
as
soon
as
somebody
I.
You
know,
I
rent
to
somebody
or
move
out
of
the
house.
It's
something
that's
gonna
get
clogged
and
nobody
will
take
care
of
it
and
the
basement
will
just
again
begin
eroding
a
lot
of
it
is
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
house
where
the
concrete
pad
and
basements
been
deteriorated.
O
J
M
J
O
There's
a
like
an
entrance
to
the
crawlspace
there's
actually
two
of
them
there's
one
right
there
and
then
there's
one
over
at
the
other
gable
end.
But
the
house
is:
it's
got
a
very
interesting
basement.
It's
got
these
like
half
walls
around
the
basement
down
there,
where
you
can
access
the
crawlspace
they're,
all
like
five
foot
tall
walls
and
then
like
a
three-foot
area
above
them
that
you
can
just
enter
straight
into
crawl
space
and
all
the
young
there's
not
water.
Coming
through
those
holes.
All
the
topsoil
is
dry
in
the
crawl
space.
F
M
F
Guess
I
could
I
can
rationalize
the
concrete
slabs
as
something
to
protect
the
future
value
of
the
home
to
protect
the
actual
house
itself
from
starting
to
kind
of
crumble
in
on
itself,
and
so
that's
one
reason.
I
can
certainly
rationalize
the
use
of
some
concrete
slabs
in
order
to
to
move
water
away
from
from
the
foundation
of
the
home
and
from
entering
the
basement,
and
all
of
that
something
I
could
probably
get
on
board
with
with
the
kind
of
justification
of
protecting
the
house.
Long
long.
C
B
B
While
we
help
you
get
it
done
and
I
think
that's
really
what
the
staff
is
trying
to
get
us
to
do
is
to
continue
it
and
continue
to
work
with
you,
and
they
will
to
to
bring
this
to
some
resolution
that
works
for
you
and
and
that's
what
needs
to
be
done
to
protect
your
house,
but
we
just
I
just
don't
think
we're
there
yet
mister
come
in.
Are
you.
B
I
you
know
I
was
just
kind
of
handling
after
that,
but
I
just
kind
of
I
think
it
I
think
that
they
need
to
work
with
you
a
little
bit
more
and
I.
Think
it
I
think
you
I
think
you'll
find
that
you
will
end
up
with
something
that
you're
okay
with
I
mean
you're
happy
with
it's
just.
It
might
just
need
a
little
more
work.
J
What
you
know
Taylor
you
brought
up
a
good
point
and
I've
been
looking
at
this.
A
little
bit
more
and
I.
Think
what's
apparent
is
the
way
the
roof
slopes.
Are
you
know
it
all
comes
down
at
one
point
where
that
gravel
is
I'm,
you've
got
to
slow
I
mean
you
basically
have
three
slopes
all
coming
together
at
that
one
spot
but
looks
like
you're
proposing
the
paving
to
go.
J
Maybe
maybe
a
few
feet
from
the
front
of
the
house.
I
mean
I,
wonder
if
this
and
I
do
understand,
you
know
anytime,
you
have
french
grains
or
any
kind
of
you
know
any
kind
of
drain.
That's
heard
the
ground
you
know
leaves
are
gonna
get
in
there.
It
is,
it
is
a
maintenance.
You
know
it
is
something
you
have
to
keep
up
with
and
not
everyone
would
keep
up
with
that
for
sure,
but
I'm
wondering
I
mean
if
you
pulled
that
concrete.
J
J
J
B
And
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
very
careful.
I've
been
creating.
I
mean
make
sure
that
the
city
is
signed
off
on
concrete
because
it
impacts
everybody,
and
you
can't.
You
can't
run
your
water
off
of
your
lot
onto
somebody
else's
lot
or
I
mean
I.
Just
think.
There's
a
lot
here
that
we
need
to
know
more
about
and
I'm
I'm
sure
we
can
that,
because
mr.
Calhoun
has
already
done
a
lot
of
work.
B
O
A
it's
a
little
confusing,
because
they're,
both
kind
of
drainage,
related
I
personally,
would
currently
the
concrete
that
I
had
originally
planned
and
schemed
to
put
in
there.
It
doesn't
go
further
than
the
front
of
the
house.
It
actually
that
very
front
wall
behind
my
porch
would
be
where
it
started
and
actually
definitely
I
was
in.
O
They
come
at
I'm
pressed
I'm,
a
medical
student
and
so
I've
got
I've
got
eight
weeks
this
summer
to
get
to
work
on
a
lot
of
this,
so
I
was
really
trying
to
get
this
through
and
as
you
as
best
as
I
could
to
explain
it
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
kind
of
started
to
realize.
You
know
just
days
before
I
submit
the
proposal.
I
was
having
conversation
with
mrs.
Friddle,
that
kind
of
like
what
you
had
mentioned,
councilman
Phillips,
to
move
it
back
to
just
over
where
that
water
falls
off
the
roof.
O
I
think
anything
that
runs
down
the
side
of
the
house
would
end
up
in
that
trench,
as
well
as
everything
that
pours
off
the
roof.
I
I
do
believe.
Looking
at
it
further
would
be
a
very,
very
thorough
solution
for
it
as
far
as
water.
The
reason
I
wanted
to
you
can
see.
I
want
to
run
these
trenches
around
the
jut
and
then
kind
of
target
them
down,
and
that
was
to
ensure,
and
definitely
the
sloped
edge
of
the
ground
would
flow
that
water
back
into
my
own
property.
O
O
If
I
I
get
all
of
the
trying
to
maintain
that
green
space,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
want
myself
I
don't
want
to
have
all
concrete
around
there.
I
do
agree.
That
would
be
quite
not
correct
and
everything
so
anything
that
I
can
get
it.
You
know
as
much
as
I
need
to
slim
it
down
just
to
kind
of
have
a
very
permanent
solution
that
you
know
if
I'm
not
around
or
I'm
living.
O
M
F
I
A
J
It's
kind
of
an
interesting
configuration
I
remember
when
this
house
came
on
the
market
and
I
kind
of
looked
at
it.
It's
just
strange
that
garage
just
kind
of
barely
tacked
on
to
the
house.
You
know
I
think
I
read
with
you
that
you're
trying
to
do
something
about
that
I
mean
that
would
have
probably
been
one
of
my.
J
You
know.
Initial
efforts
as
well
so
I
mean
you're,
basically
proposing
and
a
way
to
detach
it
from
the
house
have
kind
of
like
a
breezeway
through
there,
which
makes
sense
because
it
is
kind
of
cut
off
right.
Now
it
kind
of
cuts
off
the
back
from
the
front,
but
you're
leaving
the
house.
The
roof
saw
you
know,
I'm,
not
sure
I
really
have
any
issues
with
that
per
se.
I,
don't
know
if
my
fellow
condition
airs
any
comments
on
that,
but
that's.
D
A
This
one
was
again,
it
was
a
you
know.
We
have
all
the
documentation
that
we
need
for
this.
One
I
think
everything's
drawn
up
in
insole
details
and
it's
not
a
typical.
You
know.
If
we
think
about
it,
they
were
building
a
new
garage
and
said
they
were
going
to
make
the
roof
like
that.
Where
it's
attached
to
the
house,
we
would
typically
not
support
that
and
say
that's
not
really
a
historic
condition
to
have
the
roof
attached
that
way.
So.
A
D
B
B
J
K
A
It
doesn't
appear
to
be
common,
it
looked
from
from
researching
their
property.
Previously.
We
think
that
the
the
rear
of
the
house
was
a
porch
that
was
enclosed
or
perhaps
in
addition,
and
so
probably
that
garage
originally
did
not
touch
the
house
and
then,
when
they
added
on
at
the
back,
they
just
went
right
up
to
the
wall
of
the
garage.
M
A
K
And
just
so,
I'm
not
missing
anything
gage
you've
done
a
really
great
job.
With
this
packet,
I
mean
the
information,
and
it's
been
very
helpful
to
see
all
this.
Is
there
a
particular
reason
why
you've
designed
in
such
a
way
that
the
roof
continues
to
attach
and
then
the
door
there
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
have
all
the
information,
and
if
it's
in
that
packet,
I
apologize
if
I
read
over
it,
my.
O
Original
intention
was
from
what
I,
understood
and
I
didn't
know.
The
exact
history
of
the
house,
it
is
actually
I,
was
on
the
on
a
conversation
with
Katie
and
it
finally
dawned
on
me
why
they
contact
in
such
an
interesting
way
they
do,
and
it
is
because
they
filled
in
a
porch
like
that.
My
original
intent
was
just
to
keep
as
much
history
as
there
was
there.
I
didn't
as
just
a
citizen,
I
didn't
understand
the
exact.
O
What
is
historical
and
what
is
considered
not
historical
and
so
I
figured
something
like
the
maintenance
of
roof
lines,
especially
when
it
comes
to
what
you
would
see
from
the
street.
I
wanted
it
to
still
look
like
it
was
back
when
it
was
originally
constructed,
while
solving
my
water
problem
and
getting
more
access
to
the
backyard
of
the
house.
O
So
that
was
my
original
intent
and
I
do
want
to
say:
I
see
him
on
the
the
staff
report.
It
mentions
that
those
posts
are
going
to
be
stained.
That
was
in
actually
an
original
submission.
It
was
recommended
to
me
that
stained
would
probably
wouldn't
be
of
as
much
historical
nature
and
so
I've
changed
those
to
paint
to
match
the
trim
on
the
rest
of
the
structure.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
of
any
importance
but
yeah,
maintaining
the
roofline.
O
K
So
I
guess
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
would
just
be
for
the
other
commissioners.
If
it's
more
historically
accurate
that
they
they
don't
continue
to
touch.
If
they,
you
know,
the
garage
just
becomes
a
detached
garage
with
that
that
roof
just
extending
and
touching
it
with
just
ICU,
just
creating
kind
of
a
door
walk
through.
So.
J
It's
kind
of
a
funny
condition
because
and
and
kind
of
Dan's
question
about
what
is
typical
that
you
know
I
walk
between
my
house,
which
is
on
Hudson
25th.
You
know
North
longer,
I
mean
almost
every
other
day
and
there
are
a
few
houses
like
that.
Where
you
have.
It
just
looks
like
over
the
years
I'm
sure
before
this
was
a
historic
neighborhood
designated
historic
preservation.
Neighborhood,
you
know
people
would
build
random
garages
or
you
know
kind
of
fill
in
so
they're
fugue.
J
It's
kind
of
weird
attached
garages
along
the
way,
I
I,
guess
I
I
totally
get
your
comment.
I
mean
I.
Think
historically,
a
you
know
like
a
totally
detached
garage,
would
be
the
most
accurate
and
I
guess.
Well
we're
you
know.
We
see
currently
is
kind
of
this
kind
of
piece
together
configuration
but
I
guess
that's
kind
of
what
we
have
to
work
with
so
I
mean
personally
I.
Don't
really
have
a
problem,
leaving
the
roof.
I
think
moving
it
back
is
nice
because
it
does
create
a
little
bit
of
separation,
I
think
even
visually.
J
K
J
F
Prefer
to
see
it
detached
as
well.
It
sounds
like
there's
enough
items
here
where
it
sounds
like
we're,
gonna
be
leaning
towards
and
continuance,
and
and
under
that
premise,
does
it
make
sense
to
come
back
with
a
plan
that
does
show
that
as
a
detached
as
kind
of
a
detached
space?
That's
where
we
want
to
take
it.
O
If
it
all
mobile,
given
given
my
personal
circumstances,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I
may
I
just
finished
up
my
first
year
of
medical
school
and
I'm
going
to
be
doing
us
all
at
80%
of
this
work
on
my
own
I've
done.
It
worked
in
construction
for
many
many
years.
A
continuance
would
probably
put
me
in
a
time
bind
and
I.
Don't
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
process,
then
I
don't
to
be
unorthodox
for
how
this
works.
O
But
out
of
my
own
pocket
and
my
own
intentions
and
my
financial
planning
to
build
a
lot
of
sweat
equity
in
his
home
I
would
prefer
to
keep
that
roof
there,
as
it's
really
within
my
capability,
as
well
as
my
original
intentions,
with
the
historical
value
of
the
roof
line
and
I
understand.
That's
just
something.
I
would
ask
for
consideration
sure.
A
This
is
Katie
if
two
things,
one
that
was
that
was
staffs
understanding.
Well,
is
that
part
of
the
applicants
concern
was
that
if
the
roof
is
to
stay
where
it
is,
that
could
be
done
with
fairly
minimal
impact
on
the
structure
of
the
garage
and
that
change
made
to
the
wall
to
address
the
connection
between
the
house
and
the
garage
but
retain
the
kind
of
whatever
structural
integrity
there
is
to
the
garage.
A
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
say
is
that
if
the
decision
is
to
approve
is
to
ask
that
the
front
wall
of
the
garage,
including
the
roof,
be
pushed
back,
and
if
the
applicant
agreed
to
that
and
I
think
that
is
something
simple
enough
to
be
submitted
to
staff
after
the
fact,
without
a
continuance,
if
you
all
are
comfortable
not
seeing
it
again,
I
think
that's
pretty
straightforward
and
we
already
have
lots
of
good
drawings
on
the
before
and
after
for
moving
the
wall
back.
So
that's
something
that
we
could
review
a
minute.
B
B
O
B
O
J
I
mean
if
you,
if
you
read
with
you,
know,
Kenny
had
mentioned
as
far
as
all
the
fascia
stuff.
You
know
all
the
trim,
all
that
I
mean
if
you
replace
that
in
kind.
You
know
that's
something.
Katy
can
just
approve
administratively.
So
if
I'm
correct
in
this,
you
know
you
could
probably
do
the
garage
portion
of
the
work.
If
you
were
okay
with
kind
of
replacing
and
kind
all
the
trim
and
finish
and
all
that
the
columns
in
the
front
then
I
the
Katy
could
administratively
approve
that.
J
You
know
the
drainage
item
and
if
we
feel
like
that's
something
that
we
want
to
discuss,
it
sounds
like
that
might
be
something
want
to
look
out
further
based
on
Linda's
comments.
You
know
that
would
get
you
90%
of
the
way
you
know,
and
then
you
just
have
the
drainage.
You
know,
but
a
paging
to
figure
out.
You
know
later
I.
O
Actually,
I
planned
for
that
and
I
I
have
been
administratively
approved
for
replacement
and
kind
of
the
fascia,
the
columns
and
the
brackets
or
corbels,
and
actually
today's
period
I'm,
pretty
sure
on
those
circumstances
and
and
I've
been
a
mini
straighter
than
approved
for
the
fence
work,
so
the
the
concrete
slab
and
drainage
and
the
movement
of
the
front
wall.
The
garage
I
believe
are
the
only
standing
items.
B
Well,
I'm
not
really
prepared
to
approve
the
just
for
me:
the
drainage
items
without
more
information,
I'm,
okay,
with
the
replacement
of
historic
materials.
If
we
have
the
if
we
have
the
proper
documentation
and
I'm
okay
with
working
through
the
issues
on
that
porch,
whatever
it
was
addition
for
you
to
make
that
happen
as
long
as
it,
you
know,
as
long
as
you
work
with
the
staff
to
do
that,
I'm,
just
not
I'm,
not
ready.
Eight
on
that,
first
one
for
me.
B
O
Q
A
On
some
of
these
items
that
we've
already
discussed
just
to
pin
down
I
will
say
on
numbers
item
three
and
item
for
both
of
those
I
think
we,
it
sounds
like
the
direction
we're
going
is
denial
because
we
have
a
separate
administrative
approval
for
the
in-kind
replacement.
So
those
non
in-kind
replacements
can
be
denied,
I
think
on
item
five.
It
sounded
like
we
were
moving
toward
perhaps
an
approval
with
some
conditions
and
just
need
to
clarify,
what's
happening
with
the
roof
form
and
and
include
that
in
an
approval
or
a
continuance.
A
If
you
all
feel
fill
is
necessary
to
see
it
again
either
way,
I
think
if
assuming
number
five
is
approved,
we
could
certainly
approve
number
six
based
on
the
discussion
that
you
all
have
had
and
then
it
sounds
like
number
seven
would
be
a
continuance.
There
may
be
some
administrative
Lea
provable
solutions
that
we
can
come
up
with
between
now
in
a
future
meeting
and
then
number
nine
is
related
to
the
garage
number
five.
So
that's
just
dependent
upon
whether
or
not
the
roof
of
the
garage
is
remaining
in
place
or
being
pulled
back.
J
J
R
M
B
F
D
B
I
K
B
F
Think
I
was
a
I
guess.
I
was
under
the
impression
that
we
were
looking
at
a
conditional
approval
and
that
some
of
these
changes,
mr.
Cottington,
could
work
with
with
staff
on
to
to
address.
As
long
as
you
know,
I
guess.
The
big
thing
that
we
would
need
to
decide
is
whether
the
roof
line
stays
as
is
or
as
pushback
and
I'm
comfortable
with
it
staying,
as
is
too,
if,
if
it's
opened
up.
D
F
F
K
D
C
A
A
I
F
A
F
M
A
This
is
a
house
similar
to
one
that
the
Commission
saw
fairly
recently.
It
has
an
attached
garage
on
the
front
elevation
of
the
house
that
is
very
small
and
no
longer
really
functions
as
a
garage
and
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
construct
a
detached
garage
in
the
back
yard,
with
a
new
driveway
accessing
that
detached
garage.
G
G
Yeah,
we're
proposing
to
like
Katie,
said,
take
away
the
attached
garage
and
because
modern
sized
car
doesn't
fit
I
think
we
have
the
dimensions
here,
doesn't
you're
not
able
to
open
the
doors
once
you
get
in
the
garage,
so
we
need
need
another
garage
and
we
had
a
similar
case
a
couple
months
ago,
and
so
we
kept
we
kept
the
front
facade.
We
kept
it.
The
garage.
G
And
the
panelling
to
make
it
seem
like
it's
still
our
garage,
because
we
had
to
issue
last
time
where
it
was
you
wanted
to
match
it
to
the
stone
or
material
that
it
was
or
in
this
case
would
be
break,
but
we
kept
kept
it
as
appearance
as
it
would
be
a
garage
or
a
paneling
there
and
then
we're
doing
addition.
It's
814
square
feet.
F
G
J
You
know,
honestly,
this
is
pretty
similar
to
that
other
one
that
we
discussed,
which
I
know
we.
We
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
that
one,
but
you
know
you've
pretty
much
taken
all
the
discussion
items
we
had
on
that
one
and
that
we
ended
up
grooving
and
applied
it
here.
You
know
I,
think
it's
pretty
straightforward.
J
I,
don't
really
have
any
issues,
except
that
I
would
say:
I
think
it
does
make
sense
to
take
that
driveway
away,
you're
still
referencing
the
garage
with
the
materials
and
the
way
you're
doing
the
front,
but
I
think
it
would.
It
would
not
make
sense
to
have
the
two
drives.
So
those
are
just
my
comments
on
this
got.
D
C
D
G
G
D
B
D
D
G
O
D
G
F
D
D
D
A
D
D
F
I
H
A
I
A
B
A
T
And
we
came
up
with
about
6
on
streets
adjacent
to
28,
about.
There
were
three
on
29th
and
then
chew
on
27th
and
one
on
26th
that
were
similar
I,
don't
know
if
those
are
approved
or
unapproved
doors,
but
they
do
have
a
similar
amount
of
glass
and
so
I
don't
know
if
that
plays
into
consideration.
For
you
guys.
Are
there
any
other
questions
you
have
about
the
door
that
we've
proposed
I
think
that
door
is
in
our
original
packet
that
we
submitted.
T
A
We
see
in
certain
districts,
particularly
we
kind
of
conceit
patterns
of
doors
that
we're
all
replaced
within
a
certain
time
period
and
of
a
certain
style,
I
think
the
the
half-light
door
that
that
the
applicant
proposed
with
the
solid
lower
portion
and
then
nine
light
above
it's
a
pretty
typical
style
of
door.
What
we
typically
don't
see
is
leaded
glass
within
those
those
panels,
so
that
that
part
of
it
was
part
of
the
concerns
that
you
know.
A
A
M
F
F
D
I
B
T
Yes,
with
possibly
I
mean
the
reason
we
decided
on
a
door
with
glass
was
that
this,
of
course,
the
front
door
opens
into
the
living
room
and
in
keeping
with
the
current
placement
of
windows.
The
living
room
has
two
small
windows
that
are
on
the
north
side
of
the
house,
and
so
we
were
trying
to
maintain
privacy
with
the
patterned
glass,
but
also
allow
a
little
bit
more
natural
light
to
flow
into
the
living
room.
And
so
that
was
kind
of
my
thinking
when
picking
this
door.
T
B
B
D
T
D
T
F
F
B
A
Sorry,
what
we
can
do
is
approve
it
with
conditions
specifying
the
changes
that
the
Commission
wants
to
see
to
the
design
of
the
door,
and
then
we
would
just
hold
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
until
those
conditions
are
met.
We
would
work
with
the
applicant
after
the
meeting
to
get
a
revised
door
design
and
then
soon,
as
we
have
that
agreed
to
between
the
applicant
and
staff,
we
would
release
this
da
I.
Don't.
A
M
A
D
D
D
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F
I
F
A
M
F
D
D
M
A
A
F
A
This
is
in
mr.
Park
for
two
consideration
and
possible
action
on
application
by
Chad
right,
see
our
homes
LLC
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
for
demolish
existing
non-historic
garage,
elective
and
five
construct,
two-story
garage
and
appurtenances
elective,
and
before
we
go
on
Jennifer
Rita,
do
we
need
to
take
role
again
or
are
we
okay?
Because
everyone
is
visibly
participating
in
the
meeting.
B
A
P
The
original
historic
structure
is
approximately
1,700
square
feet
down
with
a
loft
room
up.
We
are
in
the
early
phases
of
demolition.
We've
got
most
of
everything,
pulled
out
the
house
and
ready
to
go
back
in,
but
in
order
to
set
it
up
the
way
that
my
wife
and
I,
this
is
going
to
be
basically
our
empty
nester
home,
but
we
still
have
two
years
of
our
twins
in
high
school.
P
Whatever
you
a
living
space
on
the
property
for,
and
the
plan
that
we
had
submitted
for
that
garage
had
kind
of
a
living
with
a
little
kitchenette,
something
that
would
also
service
kids
coming
home
from
college
and
once
they
had
children
and
we
needed
to
have
a
play
space,
it
would
be
able
to
service
that
need,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
just
keep
the
home
in
essence,
as
it
was
on
the
inside,
with
two
downstairs
bedrooms
and
then
an
office,
and
then
an
upstairs
space.
If
you
will.
F
F
F
A
This
is
Katie.
The
proposed
new
garage
is
a
450
square
foot
footprint,
which
is
a
size
that
the
guidelines
typically
allow
is
kind
of
a
threshold
size
for
new
construction
garages,
and
then
it
is
also
a
two-story
garage
which
the
guidelines
talk
about
when
and
where
2-story
garages
are
appropriate.
Those
guidelines
address
teacher
garages
in
the
context
of
when
we
we
don't
know
what
the
historic
garage
was.
D
B
M
J
F
Big
I
think
I'm
with
you
classic
gut
feels
it
feels
really
large,
but
you
know
you
can
see
in
some
of
these
pictures.
Obviously
the
yellow
house,
the
turquoise
house,
there
are
some
structures
around
it
that
that
may
support
its
size,
the
size
of
this,
this
new
construction,
but
it
I
struggle
to
be
able
to
say
yeah
it's
great
without
no
one
kind
of
what
what
is
a
little
bit,
where.
M
M
P
Sure,
yeah,
and
so
the
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
shot
of
the
back
of
the
historic
structure
and
in
the
various
pictures
that
you've
been
flipping
through
right
there.
So,
if
you
look
straight
to
the
back,
there
is
an
old
metal,
potentially
aluminum
awning
or
cover
that
as
part
of
our
removal
of
the
vinyl
siding
and
the
aluminum
storm
windows
and
the
aluminum
wraps
around
the
windows.
M
D
R
R
K
M
K
A
Kind
of
you
know,
landscape
feature
or
accessories
feature
like
that.
The
guidelines
encourage
locating
them
in
a
location
where
they
would
have
typically
been
historically,
and
so
we,
we
kind
of
had
staff,
had
the
reaction
that
typically
you
don't
see
a
pergola,
particularly
in
a
visible
location
like
that
off
of
a
garage.
It
would
probably
be
more
typical
to
have
it
off
the
back
of
the
house
or
or
perhaps
freestanding
kind
of
in
a
yard.
J
All
right,
as
soon
as
like
it
be
yeah
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
necessarily
have
a
big
problem
with
where
it's
at
but
looks
like
you've
got
the
patio
wrapping
around
the
back.
I
mean,
if
you
put
it
behind
the
garage,
it
seems
like
it
would
meet
the
guidelines
pretty
much
do
the
word
is
that
correct,
Katie
or.
A
Do
not
add
a
pergola
or
trellis
to
a
permanent
elevation
where
none
existed,
not
historically
existed.
New
pergola
is
not
visible
from
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
may
be
constructed
in
backyards,
at
rear,
elevations
or
at
accessory
structures.
So,
yes,
I,
think
putting
something
to
the
side
behind
the
garage
opposite
where
the
street
is,
would
meet
those
requirements
to
reduce
the
visibility
of
it
and
probably
provide
a
little
more
privacy
for
that
area,
while
you're
at
it.
F
P
You
for
in
complete
transparency,
the
items
that
the
item
is
the
most
important,
because
the
is
the
extra
room
above
the
garage,
so
I
will
certainly
defer
to
the
Committee
on
any
other
item.
You
know
regarding
a
pergola
or
what-have-you
so
yeah.
Absolutely.
We
would
look
at
modifying
that
plan
for
something
like
that.
F
Guess
where
I'm
at
is
I'm,
certainly
not
opposed
to
the
two-story
garage
but
I
think
in
order
for
us
to
make
a
really
good
decision.
We've
got
to
get
some
some
scaling
on
the
properties
behind
and
next
to
this
particular
this
particular
construction
side,
and
so
I
I
would
I
guess.
I
would
suggest
potential
continuance
to
make
sure
we
can
get
some
additional
information,
not
sure
what
my
other
or
my
other
commissioners
are
I
support.
That
I
agree.
M
A
This
is
Katie.
That's
had
a
couple
of
other
concerns
that
I
think
were
called
out
in
the
staff
report
that
the
proposed
garage
door
is
a
metal
door
which
the
guidelines
don't
support
in
Mesta
Park
and
then
the
I
believe
the
pedestrian
doors
the
garage
that's
proposed
is
intended
to
match
the
front
door
on
the
house.
We
typically
would
see
not
so
grand
a
door
on
a
accessory
structure
or
garage
and
thought
the
Commission
might
want
to
weigh
in
on
that,
especially
if
we're
going
to
continue
if
that
door
seems
appropriate.
E
P
Me,
yes,
the
the
door
that
is
on
it
now
is
a
wood
garage
door
and
when
I
was
thumbing
through
the
attack
it
from
when
this
was
approved,
I
noticed
that
they
got
it
from
overhead
door,
which
is
where
I
buy
my
garage
doors
for
my
new
homes.
So,
yes,
I'm,
happy
to
I'm,
happy
to
use
this
same
exact
door
and
not
change
anything
so
and
regarding
the
pedestrian
door.
Yes,
the
door
that
you
see
on
the
right
side
of
this
picture,
it's
a
very
simple
flush,
wood
door.
S
Is
this
is
Fallon
Brooks
Chad's
designer
I'm,
the
one
that
put
the
packet
together
so
I
apologize
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I'm
concerned
about
continuing
this,
because
I
I
would
hope
that
if
the
only
concern
is
the
height
of
the
building,
I
would
would
hope
that
we
could
just
come
to
some
kind
of
an
agreement
where
we
could.
Maybe
if
we
could
maybe
come
to
an
agreement
that
like
if
the
adjacent
structure
is
of
a
certain
height
that
we
can't
exceed
that
height
or
that
we
can't
be
within
a
certain.
S
You
know,
height
range
or
something
because
I
hate
to
see
this
go
for
another
month
or
two
on
just
for
that,
because
we
can
certainly,
you
know,
fiddle
with
the
height
a
little
bit
fairly
easy
or
if
we
could
do
that
in
such
a
way
that
it
could
become
administrative
Lea
proved
based
on
height,
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
it,
but
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
do
that,
so
the
Chad
isn't
having
to
wait
a
couple
more
months.
Yeah.
F
B
S
A
This
is
Katie.
I
will
just
note
that
we
we
do
have
the
ability
to
approve
the
demolition
separately
from
the
construction
of
the
new
garage
and
then
I
believe.
We
also
have
at
least
one
person
that
wanted
to
speak
on
this
item
from
the
public
as
its
participating
in
the
call
mr.
Lewis
had
indicated
to
staff.
You
wanted
to
call
in.
H
Thing
I'd
like
to
comment
on
I
think
it's
great
everything
was
risings
doing
the
property
currently
living
across
from
the
property
for
30
years
for
30
years.
That
property
has
been
a
rental
property
because
the
owners
have
had
it
originally
moved
out
of
state
we're
gonna
keep
the
property
back
whenever
they
got
their
businesses,
retired
and
such
and
where
they
move
back
so
in
30
years,
that
property
can
rental
property.
H
You
know,
I
only
concern
is,
is
that
we're
gonna
build
a
two-story
garage
with
an
apartment
and
two
years
from
now,
if
they
decide
to
sell
the
property
all
of
a
sudden,
its
rental
property
again,
and
it's
just
becomes
r2
r3
again
and
they're
likely
to
stab
the
adjacent
house
next.
Just
last
week
on
the
agenda,
meetings
turned
into
a
duplex,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
common
theme.
H
J
J
B
F
F
P
A
P
F
F
U
U
There
is
no
other
parking
for
the
house
because
of
the
gradation
of
the
of
the
corner.
Lot,
there's
no
way
to
get
into
the
backyard
by
the
garage
or
any
other
way,
and
so
I'm
proposing
a
circle
drive
as
many
of
the
other
homes
in
the
neighborhood
have
and
I've
provided
examples
of
those
it
already
has
a
very
substantial.
U
U
You
know
everyone
enjoying
the
park,
which
is
amazing,
because
that's
why
one
of
the
reasons
I
want
to
move
into
this
home,
but
I'm
astonished
actually
that
the
staff
was
able
to
get
some
photos
with
no
cars
parked
in
front
because
anytime
I
go
over
there.
There
are
numerous
cars,
so
so
it's
very
difficult
for
me
to
park,
sometimes
even
in
front
of
my
own
house
around
the
corner,
your
parking.
Basically,
you
would
be
parking
like
right
at
the
intersection
and
then
again,
like
I,
said
for
such
a
large
house
such
large
square
footage.
U
It
doesn't
have
as
deep
of
a
driveway
as
many
of
the
other
homes
in
the
neighborhood
do
so
it's
just.
It
would
be
very
difficult
to
get
enough
cars
parked
there
at
any
given
time
and
I
have
a
son
who
eventually
will
turn
16
and
will
have
friends
coming
over
and
it's
so
so
part
of
it
as
a
safety
issue,
as
far
as
just
being
able
to
park
and
not
having
to
get
out
into
traffic
coming
and
going
from
the
house.
B
A
B
B
D
But
just
looking
at
that
photograph
right
there,
first
of
all,
I
live,
have
lived
in
the
legend
park
and
there
are
a
lot
of
houses,
especially
long
harvey.
They
do.
You
have
drives
up
front,
just
look
at
that
photograph
right
there.
You
can
imagine
a
lot
I
guess
that
Sidewalk
would
be
taken
out
but
be
replaced
by
a
large
paving
area
and
two
three
cars.
You
know,
understand
the
function
for
it,
but
I
think
the
idea
when
it
wasn't
there
historically
and
secondly,
it's
it's
trying
to
discourage
people
parking
in
their
front.
The
front.
U
U
C
F
J
J
D
U
D
M
U
J
One
thing
that
I
generally
struggle
with
on
something
like
this:
if
you've
got
a
sidewalk,
you
know
and
and
limiting
the
amount
of
curb
cuts
and
drives
on
a
sidewalk
to
see
enough
to,
you
know,
watch
out
for
cars
coming
going
as
much
in
this
case.
You
know:
you've
got
the
park
across
with
this
sidewalk
and
there's
no
sidewalk.
J
D
D
F
Yeah,
that's
yeah.
There
is
a
driveway
and
parking
on
the
property.
The
guidelines
are
pretty
strict.
It's
pretty
straight
they're,
pretty
clear
in
this
particular
instance:
I
just
struggle
getting
to
a
place
where
I
can,
where
I
can
sit,
where
I
could
really
support.
It,
I
feel,
like
everything
pushes
back
on
on
on,
supporting
to
protect
the
installation
of
the
driveway
I'm.
J
Looking
to
of
the
street
view
here
and
I'm,
looking
at
I'm,
assuming
maybe
a
previous
owner,
but
they've
got
a
pretty
old
school
car,
that
seems
like
it's
pretty
long.
You
know
you
can
fit
the
two
cars
because
it's
kind
of
similar
on
the
side
of
the
house,
there's
no
sidewalk,
so
you're
not
gonna,
be
blocking
a
sidewalk
with
a
car.
So
what
I
can
tell
I
mean
if
you've
got
the
garage
open?
You
know.
You've
got
four
parking
spots
off
street
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
parking
all
that
side.
J
F
U
D
D
U
U
J
D
U
U
D
U
Is
you
have
to
it?
You
have
to
actually
go
up,
you
can't
see
it
in
that
photo,
but
to
the
east,
or
in
your
photo
to
the
left
of
the
garage.
You
have
to
actually
go
up
a
spiral
staircase
to
get
into
the
backyard.
That
garage
is
almost
it's
like
down
lower
than
the
rest
of
the
house
like
it
was
a
walkout
basement,
yeah.
R
R
U
F
B
Well,
absolutely
because
when
the
staff
says
continue
it,
that
was
my
question:
when
I
read
it
I,
don't
know
how
this
helps.
I
just
don't
know
it
helps
with
drift
if
I
continue
it.
Unless
there
are
some
ways
that
we
could
offer
her
in
which
we
can't
on
this
circular
driveway
so
Haiti.
What
is
the
best
thing
to
do
on
this?
B
A
So
with
something
like
this,
where
we
we
did
see,
you
know
some
unusual
conditions
at
this
property
and
challenges
that
that
the
property
owners
facing
with
the
site
we
didn't
want
to
recommend
an
outright
denial,
wanted
to
facilitate
that
discussion.
So
it's
really
up
to
the
commission
and
the
applicant
if
it
seems
worth
continuing
it
and
allowing
them
to
try
and
provide
any
other
information
or
if
we
think
we
just
can't
get
there.
Based
on
what
you've
seen
today,
you.
B
B
D
M
D
M
D
Guess
where
I
was
thinking
and
I,
don't
know
you
guys,
can
you
guys
can
shoot
this
down,
but
what
if
there
was
just
sort
of
a
straight
driveway
along
the
South
driveway,
just
like
every
other
driveway
just
you
know
now,
but
it's
just
a
garage
on
that
side.
Since
there
is
no
driveway
on
this
on
the
north
very
little,
would
we
allow
something
to
just
be
sort
of
like
a
way.
D
J
B
D
U
I
mean
from
from
from
that
standpoint,
I
guess
I
mean
I
would
be
fine
with
that,
but
I
think
from
a
safety
standpoint.
It
would
be
better
to
have
you
know,
with
Harvey
Parkway
being
such
a
main
thoroughfare
to
have
to
be
able
to
have
the
circle
drive
so
that
you
could
pull
out
rather
than
you
know,
pull
out
going
forward
rather
than
having
to
back
out
but
I
mean,
like
I,
said:
I'm
open
to
I'm,
open
to
alternatives.
I.
D
D
M
U
Mean
just
considering
I
I
heard
on
the
previous
item
that
the
deadline
is
what
next
Tuesday
yeah
for
the
July
meeting.
If,
if
staff
feels
like
it's
more
appropriate
to
give
us
a
little
bit
more
time,
honestly,
that
would
give
me
a
little
bit
of
time
to
actually
move
in
and
live
in
the
house
and
maybe
have
a
better
feel
for
the
unique
circumstances.
D
F
U
F
V
We
live
in
restive
Park
and
we
love
it
so
much
that
we
wanted
to
reinvest
in
our
community
we're
restoring
the
property
to
resell,
and
the
carriage
house
has
been
examined
by
a
structural
engineer.
He
classifies
it
as
structurally
unsound,
and
so
we
would
like
to
tear
it
down
and
put
in
a
modern
bag
garage.
V
M
H
T
J
I
was
just
thinking,
it
is
unique
and
I
mean
it's.
A
great
aesthetic
and
I
realized.
I
was
looking
at
the
existing
dimensions
of
it.
Could
you
you
know
even
the
same
footprint
you
know
convert
into
a
modern
garage.
It
looks
like
you,
don't
have
to
widen
it
a
little
bit
because
it's
16
feet
deep,
that's
a
little
bit
narrow
for
a
car,
but
I'm
wondering
I,
mean
I
mean
if
it's
in
as
bad
a
shape.
J
V
V
Here
are
six
other
garages
in
the
alleyway
and
having
never
done
this
before,
we
weren't
exactly
sure
what
you
were
looking
for,
and
so
we
we
obviously
just
mimicked
other
garages
in
the
alleyway
that
we
know
have
been
approved,
but
we
are
definitely
open
to
changing
the
plan.
If
that's
what
we
need
to
do.
F
Well,
not
knowing
what
the
other
the
other
houses
in
the
alleyway
look
like
I,
guess,
I,
just
think
the
the
footprint
kind
of
the
structure,
the
way
that
it's
it's
put
together
now
would
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense.
Just
potentially
a
little
bit
wander
at
a
fit
car
as
as
maybe
a
little
wider
to
fit
a
car.
As
class
noted
yeah.
J
J
We
have
larger
window
on
the
first
floor
and
a
larger
window
on
the
second
floor,
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
made
it
a
little
bit
deeper,
to
fit
a
car
but
just
kind
of
general
massing-
and
you
know
I,
think
I-
think
it
has
nice
proportions,
so
maybe
try
to
keep
the
similar
proportions
but
expand
it
maybe
slightly
to
to
fit
a
vehicle.
You
know,
okay
and
maybe,
as
far
as
square
footage.
J
B
D
M
D
Commissioner,
who's,
not
here
today,
would
say
you
kind
of
know
that
when
you
buy
and
store
cows
that
you
can't
put
your
pickup
truck
in
the
garage
you
know.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
unique
circumstance
in
order
to
get
a
600
square
foot
garage
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
It's
been
brought
up
before
ok,.
F
It's
very
challenging
for
us
to
to
comment
on
previous
cases.
There
might
have
been
unique
circumstances
at
that
time,
specific
to
that
particular
property
that
required
or
called
for
something
that
was
a
little
bit
larger.
But
we
try
and
we
try
and
look
at
these
on
a
case
by
case
property
by
property
basis.
A
A
That
we
can
identify
I
think
we
have
in
the
past
one
thing,
one
other
thing
that
we
have
done
in
the
past
when
someone
was
trying
to
very
closely
approximate
the
look
of
a
historic
garage,
especially
when
it
was
a
historic
garage
that
was
very,
it
was
shallow.
She
has
we've
given
some
leeway
on
that
square
footage
limitation
in
order
to
maintain
the
proportions
of
the
garage,
so
the
width
of
it
while
letting
it
get
deep
enough
to
accommodate
a
typical
vehicle,
maybe
not
the
extended
cab
f-150,
but
a
standard.
A
You
know
parking
space
when,
especially
with
these
really
old
ones,
that
are
carriage
houses
that
are
often
not
deep
enough.
So
I
think
there
are
several
aspects
of
the
character
of
the
carriage
house
that
could
be
incorporated
into
a
new
design
and
ways
to
kind
of
evaluate
that
that
you
know
in
the
interim
of
a
continuance,
staff
can
work
with
the
the
applicant
on
those.
M
A
A
Yeah
I
think
we
were
especially
with
the
public
health
situation.
We
didn't
really
want
to
overstep
into
people's
property.
We
was
photos.
This
month
we
tried
to
just
stay
kind
of
on
the
public
right-of-way
and
what
we
could
see
from
the
street.
Are
you
saying
Linda
you'd
like
to
see
additional
photos
of
the
garage.
D
B
M
J
J
A
V
V
Loaded
question
yeah
investing
a
lot
of
money
in
this
property.
It's
the
whole
thing
is
in
disarray
and
the
longer
that
we
wait
to
move
forward,
the
more
it
costs
us
to
to
do.
The
house
and
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
have
approval
for
demolition,
but
I
understand
the
importance
of
the
documentation
so
I'm
up,
for
whatever
the
committee
decides.
J
J
With
the
condition
that,
prior
to
demolition,
the
applicant
submits
documentation
of
the
existing
carriage
house,
including
elevations
and
dimensions
of
windows
and
roof
height
and
kind
of
everything
that
is
necessary
to
properly
document
that
property
and
with
a
specific
finding
that,
based
on
the
engineer's
report,
the
carriage
house
is
disrepair
and
a
danger.
The
community.
D
M
J
F
V
M
A
V
H
A
This
is
in
Heritage,
Hills
Ward,
six
consideration
of
hospital
action
on
application
by
catherine,
montgomery
preservation
and
design
studio
for
miles
nixon
revived
design-build
for
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Two
one
replace
and
widen
the
garage
door
via
alteration
of
the
East
facade
electives
to
remove
East
window
at
garage
elective
three
replaced
driveway
at
detached
garage,
elective
and
four
replaced
fences,
elective
five,
replace
driveway
at
attached,
garage
at
west
side
of
house
elective.
K
Q
F
Q
Q
Q
We
kind
of
submitted
this
one
to
see
if
it
would
fly
and
if
it
doesn't,
that's
fine,
we're
happy
to
change
the
design
we'd
like
to
keep
it
one
door,
because
maneuverability
is
very
tight.
You
can
see
that
there's
a
public
street
light
that
inhibits
the
ability
to
widen
the
driveway
approach,
and
so
it
needs
to
remain
the
maximum
distance
that
it
can
be.
Is
here.
Q
We've
already
proposed
that
we
would
use
a
wood
door
so
that
finding
on
page
7
is
fine,
I
mean
that's.
What
we
proposed
I
think
the
biggest
issue
here
is
whether
or
not
the
window
that
is
on
that
East
face
is
significant
enough
to
warrant
not
making
it
a
double-wide
garage
door
and
I
can
let
you
know
that
in
the
photographs
that
we
provided
page.
Q
Q
Q
Then
we
move
on
to
the
driveway
on
the
south,
which
you
know,
preservation
and
design
studio,
drew
this
a
little
wider
than
what
it
currently
is,
because
we
were
advising
our
client
that
that
little
bit
of
land
between
the
driveway
and
the
house
was
kind
of
a
liability
for
them.
The
house
has
had
implicant
termite
damage
that
has
had
to
be
addressed
and
we
would
like
to
keep
the
foundation
from
getting
wet
and
wanted
the
concrete
to
go
all
the
way
to
the
house
and
slow
any
runoff
away
from
the
house.
Q
C
Q
That
the
refurbishment
of
that
part
of
the
house
was
approved
previously,
and
now
we
are
just
you
know,
wanting
to
replace
the
driveway
part
of
the
driveway
needs
to
be
taken
up.
Besides
the
fact
that
it's
you
know
broken
up,
it
needs
to
be
taken
up
because
that's
where
their
water
line
needs
to
come
in
and
that's
kind
of
delaying
their
project
right
now.
Q
Q
R
Q
S
Q
F
F
Q
So
the
concrete
that's
there
needs
to
be
replaced.
There
is
no
question,
and
so
it's
just
a
matter
of.
Do
we
go
back
with
seven
foot,
five
inches,
which
is
really
not
usable
or
can
we
make
it
wider,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
it
wider.
We
recognized
that
ten
feet
is
the
maximum
width
available
for
administrative
approval
and,
in
this
particular
instance,
the
way
the
driveway
kind
of
bends
a
little
bit
back
to
the
back.
J
Q
F
Guess,
I'm
I'm
pretty
comfortable
with
obviously
replacing
the
fence
I'm
comfortable
with
replacing
the
West
driveway
with
the
with
a
wider
driveway,
and
even
if
it
goes
to
ten
point,
four
inches
I'm,
pretty
comfortable,
replacing
the
East
driveway.
The
one
thing
that
I'm
I
would
love.
Some
consideration
on
is
going
to
two
doors,
as
opposed
to
one
door,
and
you
guys
have
already
mentioned
that
you
know
have
to
have
a
high
style
door
there,
which
is
great.
O
Q
That's
an
existing
light
city
light
fixture,
so
we
are
deliberately
holding
the
radius
on
the
south
side
so
that
we
don't
get
any
closer
to
that
light.
Pole.
That
gives
us
about
eight
feet:
eight
inches
as
we
cross
the
sidewalk,
and
then
we
have
a
very
tight
turn
and
only
about
twenty
feet
to
be
able
to
maneuver
to
get
over
and
use
the
south
side
of
the
garage.
The
existing
garage.
Q
C
Q
F
D
K
J
This
garage
is
about
as
minimum
as
you
can
widthwise.
You
can
make
a
garage,
you
know
which
is
existing
of
course,
so
so
I
think
yes,
I'm
glad
that
the
garage
is
staying
and
I
think
that
double
door
or
that
a
wider
door
is
a
good
compromise
I'm.
Actually
just
looking
at
the
street
view,
it
looks
like
your
neighbor
to
the
north.
Has
a
garage
I
do
appreciate.
I
J
G
F
A
Is
Katie
I
just
wanted
to
ask
one
more
question.
Sorry,
as
staff
I'm
on
the
and
I
may
just
have
not
have
missed
something
in
the
proposal,
but
on
as
far
as
not
continuing
the
West
driveway,
all
the
way
back
to
the
structure.
I
think
we
would
just
need
a
revised
site
plans
that
shows
exactly
where
that
paving
is
going
to
stop.
A
I
just
wanted
to
call
out
that
widening
that
driveway,
all
the
way
up
to
the
symbol
of
the
house
is
going
to
fill
in
a
little
inset
along
the
side
of
the
porch,
which
is
what
we
reviewed
on
a
very
similar
proposal
earlier
today
and
continued
and
asked
him
to
consider
alternatives
for
addressing
drainage
issues.
So
obviously
we
review
all
of
these
case-by-case,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
consistent
and
how
we
evaluate
filling
in
those
little
niches
with
with
paving
well.
Q
D
A
You
look
at
the
County
Assessor
footprint
on
the
just
after
the
application
page
and
your
attachment.
You
can
see
that
there's
the
front
porch
and
then
it
goes
straight
back
along
the
side
of
the
front
porch
and
then
there's
a
bump
out
little
four-foot
bump
out.
There's
steps
that
extend
out
from
the
front
porch
and
then
between
those
steps
and
that
bump
out
there
is
a
little.
What
looks
to
be
right
now:
landscaped
it
well
unpaved
area
I'll
say
so.
A
D
J
Q
Correct
so
our
primary
goal
would
be
to
just
take
the
concrete
to
the
north
of
that
little
column.
That's
on
the
west
side
of
the
driveway
to
the
north
of
the
north
column,
which
is
that
little
square
on
sheet1,
and
so
wherever
that
happens,
that
gets
us
past
the
front
porch,
which
is
it
would
be
our
goal
not.
J
Personally,
I
mean
you're,
reducing
the
paving
by
quite
a
bit
by
taking
off
that
back
half
the
paving
I
mean
I
I,
don't
think,
since
we
are
reducing
the
pavement
by
such
a
large
amount.
I
don't
have
this
bigger
problem
with
that
on
this
case,
but
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
any
comments
on
that
you're.
D
J
Q
And
if
you
look
at
our
drawing
which
shows
the
new
layout
it,
it
shows
that
you
have
about
ten
feet
between
the
corner
of
the
house
and
those
columns
that
stand
to
the
west
of
the
driveway
and
that
this
footprint
is
to
scale
we
field
measured.
All
of
that.
So
if
you
compare
it
to
the
county's,
drawing
the
front
twelve
feet
of
the
house
is.
Q
D
D
J
Might
need
some
more
information
to
make
a
decision
on
that
portion
because
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
I'm
a
little
confused
on
what
the
condition
is.
You
know
you
know
I
guess
it
looks
like
the
steps
and
onto
the
porch
so
like
in
a
proposed
West.
Driveway
steps
would
be
in
that
gray
area.
Correct.
Yes,.
Q
So
we
already
have
a
CA
for
the
steps
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
photograph
that
we
did
not
include
with
this
package
that
that's
shooting
right
down
that
driveway.
If
the
Commission
can
approve
that
we
don't
have
to
take
this
driveway
all
the
way
back
that
we
can
end
it
at
the
north
side
of
that
column,
then
we
can
provide
for
Katie,
because
this
you
know
at
10
feet
wide.
D
J
This
is
a
little
bit
different
condition
because
on
the
other
house,
it
was
literally
you
know
as
the
three
feet
to
the
neighbor,
and
then
there
was
a
drive
there.
You
know
in
this
case
it's
you
know,
there's
still
some
space
between
the
neighbor
and
the
drive,
and-
and
this
is
up
you
know,
I
think
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
condition.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
exactly
equate
it
to.
You
know
that
other
project
we
discussed
you.
F
D
Q
J
Katie,
maybe
you
can
clarify
on
this
well
yeah
I,
don't
know
I
I,
don't
really
have
problems,
shortening
it
per
se,
but
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
it
ministry
administratively
approvable
and
what
isn't
I
mean?
You
haven't
really
shown
shortening
the
driveway
I
mean
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that
theory,
although
you
know
it's
not
depicted
and
then,
as
far
as
the
drive
that's
something
Katie
could
have
proved
anyway.
If
we
didn't
take
any
action
on
that,
you
know.
A
Well,
though,
it
it's
hard
to
say
what
we
could:
administrative
Lea
proved
without
looking
at
the
site
plan.
I
think
I
have
a
good
idea
of
what
we're
all
talking
about,
but
I
it's
hard
to
say
definitively.
Oh,
yes,
we
can
administratively
approve.
All
of
this
I
mean.
Certainly
we
can
administrative
Lea
proved
widening
a
driveway
up
to
ten
feet,
although
when
we
start
looking
at
filling
in
incest
and
going
up
to
the
sim
wall,
that's
something
that,
as
you've
seen,
we
typically
take
to
the
Commission
right.
M
A
The
way
to
the
garage,
if
it's
approved,
with
conditions
attached
to
it,
for
you
know
a
site
plan
to
be
submitted
to
staff.
That
sort
of
thing
then
we
can,
we
can
handle
that,
but
I
would
rather
have
at
least
some
direction
from
the
Commission
on
what
you
want
to
see.
The
final
product
look
like
then,
to
just
defer
it
for
an
administrative
approval.
J
Q
Here:
here's
here's!
What
we
really
need
on
this
is
this
project
has
taken
a
really
long
time,
and
this
is
the
last
the
last
thing
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
pull
that
concrete
up
as
soon
as
possible
and
and
and
replace
that
waterline
and
then
pour
the
concrete
and
have
the
guy
come
out
on
one
day
and
get
it
all
done.
So,
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
get
an
approval
on
this
on
this
West
driveway
we're
happy
to
do.
Q
We
were
just
suggesting
that
if
the
extra
width
which
is
ten
foot
four
back
towards
the
back
of
the
driveway,
is
unacceptable,
we
can
make
it
less
than
ten
feet.
We
can
forego
pouring
that
concrete
behind
that
second
column
altogether.
Those
were
just
ideas
for
options,
because
we
need
to
get
some
kind
of
approval
today
and
we're
happy
to
we're
trying
to
be
very
flexible
to
make
that
happen.
Q
A
S
A
A
Well,
and
if
it's
I
mean
if
it's
something
that
beyond
what
has
been
discussed
here
and
doesn't
seem
appropriate,
and
we
would
still
have
the
option
to
bring
a
revision
back
through
the
Commission,
but
that
would
at
least
give
them
the
ability
to
move
forward
with
demoing
the
garage.
The
driveway.
Yes,.
D
J
B
D
M
F
H
J
Right
that
I
will
make
a
motion
to
approve
hpc
a
28000
78
items
for
replace
fence
with
the
specific
findings.
As
noted
in
the
application
staff
report
items
1,
&
2,
as
noted
in
the
staff
report,
I
know
we
discussed
it
being
wood,
but
I
believe
that
that
was
all
I.
Think
we've
discussed
that
items
to
replace
why
the
East
driveway
with
the
specific
findings.
F
J
J
F
J
F
A
This
is
in
Crown
Heights
for
two
consideration
and
possible
action
on
application
by
Holly
Reeves
for
the
sea
bream,
Center,
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
one
construct,
additional
ected
and
to
install
window
at
we
are
of
dwelling
elective.
This
is
a
new
application
that
the
Commission
hasn't
seen
yet.
Staff
did
recommend
approval
just
with
a
condition
regarding
making
sure
we
have
all
of
the
accurate
and
fully
dimensions,
floor,
plans,
site
plans,
etc.
F
Think
some
of
the
notes
that
we
have
I
have
this
appears
to
be
a
pretty
modest
addition
on
on
a
corner.
Lot
doesn't
look
like
it's
anything,
crazy
and
but,
as
Katie
noted,
a
full
site
plan
for
certificate,
appropriateness
and
permits
would
basically
be
very,
very
helpful.
But
what
is
talked
to
us
a
little
about
your
all's
project.
W
I'm
they
lived
in
this
house
or
was
actually
my
daughter
who
is
right.
Here
was
with
me
and
most
of
that
time,
and
we
downsized
and
before
you
last
year
to
move
to
another
house
and
timing
was
just
right
that
Hallie
and
her
husband
decided
that
they,
if,
if
they
can
get
some
more
space
in
the
house,
it
would
be
a
great
place
for
them
to
live
at
least
as
long
as
we
did.
W
So
we,
if
you
look
at
this
elevation,
that
the
interesting
thing
about
this
house
is
that
every
elevation
as
a
tutor
element
to
it,
except
for
this
one
and
this
one
is
very
austere.
When
we
first
bought
the
house
without
the
tree
in
the
middle
kind
of
looks
institutional,
and
so
they
needed
a
bigger
kitchen,
they
could
they
cook.
We
didn't
anybody.
That's
been
in.
Our
house
knows
that
the
kitchen
is
extremely
awkward
and
small,
and
so
the
addition
is
actually
mostly
a
kitchen.
M
W
W
So
you
can
see
it
in
in
my
in
the
elevations
that
I
drew,
but
so
he
tied
the
RIP
together
just
on
that
one
west
eastern
slope
and
and
did
another
another
gable,
open,
gable
and
tried
to
be
as
consistent
as
possible,
with
Windows
and
and
doors
we
did
end
up
taking
out
the
window.
That's
apt
above
the
up
above
the
kitchen.
If
you
see
on
that
flat
elevation
closest
to
us
there's
a
second-story
window
that
is
actually
an
aluminum
window
and
then.
W
A
M
J
Think
it's
nicely
designed
I
appreciate
your
approach
to
design
setting
it
apart,
but
it's
still,
you
know,
I
think
it
relates
to
the
house.
Well,
so
I
I
don't
see
anything
specific
other
than
you
know,
meeting
the
condition
that
you
provide
thus
I
plan
to
staff.
You
know
for
their
inclusion
of
a
certificate.
W
W
A
M
A
X
M
A
Have
a
hefty
list
of
administrative
approval
happy
to
answer
questions
about
that
tomorrow?
If
anyone
has
questions
about,
administrative
approval
seriously
feel
free
to
send
us
an
email
any
time.
If
you
see
something
administrative
Lea
proved,
and
you
want
to
know
more
about
it
or
what's
going
on,
we
have
two
withdrawals.
Those
are
typically
just
so
that
people
understand
what
that
is.
A
It's
often
someone
who
you
know
miss
an
application
works
with
staff
for
a
while
and
maybe
decides
not
to
proceed
with
that
project
or
never
does
get
all
their
documentation
turned
in
under
C
City
Council.
We
did
want
to
make
everyone
aware
of
a
couple
of
things:
a
May
26,
the
council
reviewed
for
the
first
time
a
proposed
revision
to
chapter
60,
which
is
where
all
of
our
feeds
are
housed
to
revive
fees
for
historic
districts,
as
well
as
all
of
our
design
review
districts
for
HP
districts.
A
Administrative
approvals
will
actually
go
down
a
little
bit
to
$75
Commission
review
without
any
construction
involve
will
go
up
to
150
instead
of
100
and
Commission
review
with
new
construction
will
go
up
to
200.
This
is
still
well
well
below
the
administrative
cost
of
running
these
programs,
but
is
a
little
bit
more
in
keeping
with
you
know,
kind
of
the
scope
of
administrative
work,
as
well
as
the
scope
of
the
projects
that
are
being
reviewed,
and
you
know.
Obviously
this
is
a
budgetary
matter
as
well
and
then
for
the
other
Design
District.
A
Those
fees
will
adjust
as
well
and
those
are
usually
for
larger
commercial
projects.
We've
included
a
link
here
if
you'd
like
to
look
at
that
ordinance
with
those
fees,
but
that
will
go
back
to
Council
for
hearing
on
June,
9th
and
then
adoption
on
the
15
23rd
I
was
thinking
it
was
the
16th,
but
I
will
double-check
that
and
let
you
know
when
those
hearing
dates
are
preserve.
Okc
is
scheduled
to
be
heard
and
received
by
City
Council.
That's
what
they
do
is
amendment
to
the
comprehensive
plan
at
their
June
23rd
meeting.
A
They
will
receive
the
plan
as
an
amendment
to
the
comprehensive
plan
plan
OKC,
and
they
will
adopt
the
official
position
on
historic
preservation
by
resolution.
So
again
we'll
let
everybody
know,
those
dates
for
sure
is
that's
moving
forward.
I
would
say:
come
to
the
meeting
but
I'm
sure
it'll
be
video
conference,
so
you
know
tune
in
if
you're
interested
and
we'll
just
keep
you
informed
on
how
that
proceeds
and
that's
all
for
those
items.
Okay,.
F
For
Wednesday
July,
1st
2022
p.m.
the
applications
for
this
meeting
will
need
to
be
received.
No
I
received
by
June,
2nd
2020
and
a
new
information
on
projects
continued
from
today's
meeting
for
the
upcoming
meeting
must
be
submitted
submitted
to
staff
by
4:00
p.m.
on
Tuesday
June
9th
next
regularly
scheduled
workshop
for
their
sort.
Preservation
Commission
is
Wednesday
June
10th
from
11:30
to
1:30
p.m.
F
A
Just
gonna
interject,
so
I
was
actually
supposed
to
be
at
a
conference
in
Minnesota
that
week
and
instead
I'm
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
off.
You
know
spend
even
more
quality
time
with
my
family
that
I
spent
quarantine
with
for
three
months,
because
we
can't
get
enough
of
each
other,
so
I
think
we
will
not
have
a
workshop.
We
may
see
if
you
know
within
the
next
couple
of
months,
we
can
have
one
in
person
with
some
social
distancing
I
think
it's
hard
to
do
that
kind
of
thing
via
videoconference.
A
If
you,
if
you
want
to
send
me
an
email,
if
there's
anything
in
particular
that
over
these
last
couple
of
months
or
weeks,
you
think
would
be
a
good
workshop
topic,
we're
happy
to
try
and
address
those
kinds
of
things
and
John
you've
never
been
on
when
we've
had
workshops.
We
usually
do
these
approximately
quarterly.
It's
usually
over
the
lunch
hour.
We
feed
you
guys
when
we
have
the
budget
to
do
that
and
do
kind
of
a
deeper
dive
into
any
issues.
A
The
Commission
is
having,
if
there's
a
certain
type
of
application,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of,
and
people
want
to
kind
of
explore
the
related
guidelines.
If
there
are
guidelines
that
we
think
might
need
to
be
revised,
we've
used
workshops
to
talk
about
properties
that
we
want
to
pursue,
meaning
and
historic
landmarks.
All
different
issues
like
that
relevant
to
the
Commission.
So
just
think
on
that.
Let
me
know
if
there
are
any
topics
that
come
to
mind
for
you
all.
Thank
you.
F
M
J
You
know
it's
kind
of
maybe
an
open
discussion
on
on
what
that
might
look
like
with
Historic
Preservation
neighborhoods,
but
with
with
the
potential
code
update
and
not
preserve,
okay,
see,
plan,
okay,
see,
that's
one
item
might
be
addressed
and
the
other
one
is.
You
know
this
is
a
topic
that
comes
up
from
time
to
time,
the
colored
concrete
and
whether
you
stain
it
to
match
or
whatever
you
know,
leave
it
and
I.
Just
I
guess:
walk
moved
the
neighborhood
I
just
been
kind
of
thinking
about
it.