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A
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
Oklahoma
City
Planning
Commission
I'm,
going
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
just
give
just
a
brief
housekeeping
items
here.
Let's
see
if
we
can
fix
the
microphone,
though,
first
of
all,
if
you're
interested
in
addressing
the
commission,
please
fill
out
one
of
the
forms
that
that
are
located
outside
or
I,
don't
know
Jared
if
you
have
any
of
those
forms
as
well
available,
they're
all
outside
on
the
in
the
front
desk.
A
When
you
come
to
address
the
commission,
you'll
have
five
minutes
to
address
the
commission,
and
we
ask
that,
if
you
are
here
with
a
large
group,
it
doesn't
look
like
there
have
any.
There
is
a
large
group
today,
but
we
just
ask
that
you
have
a
spokesperson
speak
for
on
behalf
of
your
group.
We
also
ask
that
we
also
reserve
the
right
to
to
limit
any
repetitive
comments
once
you've.
Once
your
neighbors
made
a
point
that
you
agree
with,
you
don't
need
to
make
that
point
again.
We
will.
A
We
will
still
take
both
we'll
take
it
into
consideration.
The
most
important
thing
to
remember
is
to
please
be
respectful
of
each
other,
please
be
respectful
of
the
commission
and
respectful
of
the
process.
A
A
C
A
We'll
do
a
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote
again.
The
motion
is
to
receive
the
minutes
from
the
February
23rd
2023
meeting.
That
motion
was
seconded
by
commissioner
Powers.
Commissioner
Claire.
How
do
you
vote
yay,
commissioner
Powers
Yeah
commissioner
Fraley
commissioner
Privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble
aye,
commissioner
laforge
I
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
unanimously,
we're
now
in
line
for
continuance
requests
and
we'll
just
begin
with
uncontested
continuance
requests.
E
A
You
anyone
else
wishing
to
be
heard
on
any
of
those
items.
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
motion
and
amending
that
that
item
27
be
continued
to
the
April
13th
meeting.
A
D
A
Motion
is
to
to
continue
to
Grant
the
new
continuance
requests.
As
read
it's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
powers,
please
cast
your
votes,
unavailable.
A
The
motion
passes
we're
now
in
line
for
the
consent,
docket.
D
Item
one
is
case:
c7537
final
plot
of
OKC,
one
five,
two
one,
five,
nine
being
this
is
located
west
of
South,
Council,
Road
and
south
of
Southwest
59th
Street
item
two
is
KC
7538
final
plan
of
quail
North
located
east
of
North,
May,
Avenue
and
south
of
Northwest
150th
Street
item
three
is
KC;
7539
final,
plaid
of
Autumn
Park
second
edition
located
north
of
East,
Britain,
Road
and
West
of
Air
Depot,
Boulevard
and
item
four
KC
7540
final,
plaid
of
Bella
Rose,
located
north
of
Northwest
150th
Street
and
East
of
North
MacArthur
Boulevard.
A
G
I'm
Sally,
Henderson
and
I
have
the
property
immediately
East
of
the
Autumn
Park
proposed
Edition.
A
Okay,
we
can
pull
that
one
from
the
consent,
docket
and
just
go
review
that
case
that'd
be
okay,
okay,.
A
The
commission's
all
right
with
it,
we
can
discuss
it,
okay
and
so
then
you'll
have
another
opportunity
to
address
us.
The
applicant
will
have
an
opportunity
to
explain
what
they're
doing
with
this
final
plot
and
then
we'll
give
you
an
opportunity
to
address
your
concerns,
and
then
the
commission
will
vote.
A
A
B
A
A
H
Doug
Claussen
with
mkec
engineering
for
the
applicant
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions,
but
this
is
a
just
an
extension
of
the
Autumn
Park.
H
A
A
G
Just
have
some
questions
approach
or
or
do
it
here,
but
here's
fine
with
two,
because
I
am
in
the
property
immediately
East
the
one
that's
still
zoned
a
a
there
is
a
huge
drainage
situation
that
occurs
on
my
property.
It
actually
is
initiated
on
my
property.
So
all
the
water
that
comes
from
the
north
part
of
that
square
mile
comes
through
my
property
on
that
corner.
G
As
you
see
it
and
I
wish
I
had
a
pointer,
I
could
okay
anyway,
as
you
see
it,
and
when
it
gets
into
that
Ravine
it
is
the
natural
drainage
of
that
whole
half
of
the
of
the
square
mile.
That's
where
it
initiates
when
it
meets
the
intersection
of
the
proposed
Autumn,
Park
extension,
it's
a
very
deep
ravine
and
and
it's
the
natural
flow
of
water
from
my
property
to
that
one.
G
Of
course,
there
isn't
one
yet,
but
I
have
a
fence
there.
It's
not
a
great
fence,
but
it's
my
fence
and
I.
Don't
want
my
fence
taken
out
in
a
long
period
of
time
before
the
fence
from
the
autumn
part
development
is
put
in
I,
don't
want
that
to
be
left
open
because
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
people
take
Liberties
of
wandering
around
on
property
and
I.
Don't
want
that
to
happen.
There
is
a
fence
that
comes
across
the
already
developed
portion
going
north
to
where
it
stops
before
the
second
phase
is
initiated.
G
I
really
want
somehow
to
be
assured
that
that
fence
will
go
in
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
that
fence
won't
block
that
drainage,
but
somehow
there's
a
protection
of
individuals
getting
down
in
that
Ravine
and
coming
into
my
property
through
that
Ravine,
because
it's
a
very
likely
thing
to
happen.
There
are
lots
of
children
living
in
Autumn,
Park
part.
G
One
and
I
can
just
see
the
disaster
that
could
happen
if
they
get
into
that
Ravine
I
don't
want
them
on
my
property,
it's
agricultural,
it's
wildlife,
and
when
we
had
cattle
we
had
a
fence
that
went
down
in
there.
It
was
barbed
wire,
so
materials
could
get
through
and
it
didn't
get
blocked
by
anything
and
I.
Don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
in
that
area
now
I'm
concerned
about
that
very
much,
not
only
for
my
privacy
issues
but
before
because
of
the
drainage
issues
and
liability
issues.
If
somebody
gets
hurt.
A
Understandable
for
what
might
happen
on
your
property,
I,
think
and
I'll
I'll
look
to
legal
and
and
our
our
staff
here
to
tell
me
I
think
what
you're
suggesting
your
concerns
are
primarily
about
the
protecting
your
property
during.
It
sounds
like
during
the
construction,
because
I
believe
once
this
is
complete,
I,
don't
think
you're
you're
having
a
concern
about
that.
It
sounds
like
you're
concerned
about.
What's
going
to
happen,
while.
G
G
And
and
just
last
Fourth
of
July,
an
actual
bullet
was
shot
into
the
air
by
someone
nearby
and
of
course,
you
never
know
who
it
is
and
it
feels
when
it
quit
moving
forward.
They
all
come
back
down
to
earth,
as
you
know,
fell
right
through
the
carport
in
the
center
of
a
group
of
people
that
were
sitting
outside
on
the
4th
of
July
and
and
we've
been
in
the
city
limits
a
long
time.
It's
not
news,
you
know,
and
the
fireworks
are
crazy.
If
you
call
the
police,
they
say,
don't
call
us
about
fireworks.
G
Know
and
I
there's
no
police
protection
out
there.
That's
that's
I
shouldn't
say
that
it's
not
like
that
if
you
call
the
police
they
come,
but
if
you
don't
call
the
police,
there's
no
prowl
car.
If
you
will
or
somebody
that's
just
there,
someone
has
already
been
shot
in
the
Autumn
Park
Edition
shot.
A
A
Those
with
him
specifically
I'd
also
recommend
that
if
you
haven't-
and
it
sounds
like
you've,
exhausted
your
remedies
but
I
I'm
just
going
to
still
make
the
suggestion
that
the
city
Action
Line,
is
a
good
place
to
go,
perhaps
with
some
of
the
issues
that
you're
having
with
with
garbage
and
other
issues,
I'm
looking
to
staff
to
tell
me
any
other
suggestions
that
might
be
helpful.
G
A
Well,
I
certainly
understand
and
appreciate
your
frustration,
but
again
I
would
recommend
that
you
stay
in
contact
with
him.
I'm,
certainly
happy
to
help
in
any
way
that
I
can
and
happy
to
share
my
contact
information
with
you
as
well
I'm
certain
that
staff
can
help
you
with
that
as
well,
but
I
I
would
suggest
that
you
stay
in
contact
and
monitor
carefully.
What's
happening
with,
as
the
construction
is,
is
ongoing
and.
G
Certainly,
while
the
construction
is
going
on,
there
is
no
adherence
to
the
noise
levels.
You
know
the
decibel
levels
of
the
noise.
That's
going
on
and
I
understand.
Construction
is
noisy,
that's
not
an
issue,
but
I
I
am
literally
a
half
a
block
away
from
that.
My
home
is
about
half
a
block
away
from
that
property
line
and
I
shouldn't
be
able
to
hear
the
words
of
the
music
that's
being
played
on
the
construction
sites.
I
should
not
have
to
do
that
and
it's
every
day
of
the
week
it's
Sundays
Saturdays
and
dawn
to
dusk.
A
D
A
Well,
I
I
appreciate
it.
Unfortunately,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
take
action
on
the
things
that
you
presented
to
us,
because
our
Authority
only
lies
within
approval
of
this
plot
and
within
the
within
the
confines
of
that
plaque.
But
I
certainly
appreciate
your
concerns
and
happy
to
help
in
any
way
that
I
can.
G
F
F
I
don't
know
in
public
works,
I'm
guessing
yeah
the
concern
that
she
was
expressing
about
the
Ravine
and
and
there
being
a
way
to
fence
that
that
would
permit
the
water
still
to
flow,
but
not
permit
human
entry,
or
at
least
not
make
it
easy.
Is
that
something
that
we
have
control
over
as
as
a
construction
occurs
and
or
after
that
point
even.
K
Yeah
Barry
lodge
Oklahoma
City
Public
Works.
They
will
not
be
allowed
by
ordinance
to
block
that
that
channel
that
Ravine
in
any
manner
either
during
construction
or
after
the
construction
is
complete,
so
they
they
are
required
to
let
whatever
water
naturally
flows
across
there
to
continue
to
flow.
K
K
We
we
wouldn't
require
them
to
put
in
any
type
of
a
I'll
call
it
a
cattle
guard
structure
to
keep
animals
or
people
from
passing
through
there,
because
it
would
stop
animals
or
people
from
going,
but
it's
also
going
to
catch
trash
and
Limbs
and
debris
and
stop
the
water
from
from
coming
through
and
so
we'd
wind
up
with
a
good,
creative
flooding
issue.
If
we,
if
we
do
that.
F
K
Yep
anything
that's
put
in
there
that
would
be
and
I'll
say,
solid,
even
though
it
would
be
a
grade
or
something
like
that
would
catch
the
the
limbs
and
trash
and
other
debris
that
would
come
off
of
that
property
and
and
it
would
create
a
flooding
issue
on
the
Upstream
property
as
well
as
when
it
tries
to
go
around
it's
going
to
flood
the
the
residences
on
each
side
as
well.
G
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
so
I
again.
I
hope
that
you
too
could
exchange
information,
and
she
has
concerns
that
are
things
that
that
you
can
address
just
assisting
her
with
that
being
a
good
neighbor
would
certainly
be
appreciated
and
again
I'm
sorry
for
the
frustrations
that
you've
experienced
any
other
questions.
Comments
from
Commission,
then
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
motion.
L
Hello,
my
name
is
Steve
Landes
ladies
engineering
903
East
35th
Street,
Shawnee
Oklahoma.
This
is
the
preliminary
plot
of
Providence
Place
addition
of
approximately
three
to
four
months
ago.
We
did
an
s-pud
that
is
identical
to
the
supplementary
Platt
and
I
kind
of
made
a
mistake.
I
always
thought
that
it
was
either
five
acres
or
ten
Lots.
They
have
to
preliminary
flat.
Before
the
you
know,
the
final
plat
and
I
was
mistaken.
L
It
is
only
10
lots
and
we
had
over
10
Lots,
so
we
had
to
submit
a
preliminary
plot
as
well
as
final
plastic
is
coming
up
next
on
the
agenda
and
other
than
that,
we're
following
all
the
same
rules
that
we
followed
and
discussed
in
the
the
s-pod.
It
is
a
residential
duplex
development,
multi-family
complex
other
than
the
one
lot,
which
is
T1,
which
would
be
a
small
office
complex
and
just
hope
to
receive
y'all's
approval.
B
M
B
B
L
Fact
we
are
because
that
is
more
of
a
commercial
lot
up
in
there.
We
did
not
want
it
tying
into
the
Gated
Community.
All
the
community
directly
behind
is
actually
gated,
and
we
would
prefer
to
keep
that
one
where,
if
you
look
how
that
T1
lot
extends
further
to
the
north
along
the
Frontage,
that
is
the
driveway
to
sustain
the
distance
of
Separation
off
of
Northwest
134th
Street.
So
the
objective
was
to
isolate
the
drive
at
that
one
specific
location,
bring
it
down
the
way
into
that
corner.
M
Yeah
Jared
Martin
planning,
department,
yeah
I,
think
we
should
say
for
residential
lots,
okay,
yeah
and
it
would
apply
to
both
Piedmont
and
Memorial,
which
isn't
there.
But
technically
it's
a
section
line
if
it
ever
gets
built.
You'd
want
the
same
thing
there
as
well.
L
B
A
L
B
I'll
move
to
approve
item
C
7512,
subject
to
the
technical
evaluations
amending
technical
evaluation.
Number
five
is
read
into
the
record.
A
Commissioner,
Claire
has
moved
for
approval
of
c7512
that
motion's
been
second
about.
Commissioner
powers,
please
cast
your
votes
unavailable
and
that
is
subject
to
detect
to
the
amendments
to
the
technical
evaluation.
As
read
into
the
record,
that
motion
is
passed.
Thank
you.
Don't
go
too
far,
we're
in
line.
L
B
Are
there
are
three
one
of
which
is
the
landscape
plan
submitted
with
the
plat
requires
Corrections
and
resubmittal
item?
One
is
approval
of
the
plaza
subject
to
Oklahoma
City
acceptance
and
dedication,
improvements
or
Assurance
of
completion
of
the
improvements
and
Technical
evaluation.
Three
separate
instruments
will
be
required
to
be
submitted
with
the
final
platform
proposed.
Easements
lying
outside
the
boundaries
of
the
plot
instruments
will
be
processed
to
the
city
council.
At
the
same
time,
in
the
final
plat
will
be
recorded
by
the
city.
L
B
Right
with
that,
I'll
move
approval
of
item
C
7513,
subject
to
the
technical
evaluations.
A
N
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
Mark
Grubbs
1800,
South,
Sarah
Road
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
This
is
a
an
approximate
13
acre
straight
R2
request
from
C3
to
R2,
just
south
of
Reno
on
the
west
side
of
Czech
hall.
There's
a
substantial
amount
of
R2
surrounding
this
project
in
the
area
staff
recommends
approval.
We
would
ask
for
your
approval
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
O
A
Any
other
questions
comments
from
commissioners.
We
have
no
one
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
item,
so
commissioner,
Fraley.
A
And
the
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
PC
10873
to
city
council
that
motion's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
powers.
Please
cast
your
votes
when
available.
D
N
L
O
A
A
The
motion
is
to
approve
c7536.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
privet
seconds?
The
motion?
Please
cast
your
votes.
D
Item
nine
is
kce1093
application
to
close
a
125
foot
radial
utility
easement
on
Lot
19
and
Block
14
of
Northampton,
three
Edition
east
of
Northampton
court
and
south
of
Northwest
159th
Terrace
at
15900
Northampton
Court.
Thank
you
is.
P
Good
afternoon
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Stephanie
Coulter
present
for
the
applicant.
My
address
is
1503
East
19th
in
Edmond
Oklahoma,
and
the
applicants
are
simply
looking
to
build
a
gazebo
on
their
common
area
for
the
residents
use
and
depending
on
your
recommendation
here
today,
we'll
move
forward
with
the
survey
of
the
property
and
have
that
prepared
for
City
Council.
A
Excellent
I
will
say,
and
I
I
do
know
that
this
is
this
is
in
commissioner
Noble's
Ward,
but
it
did
come
up
in
our
pre-meeting
about
concerns
about
the
the
pipeline
easement.
So
you
might,
you
might
visit
with
with
Barry
Lodge
in
the
back
with
public
works,
because
he
may
be
helpful
to
you
if
there's
any
issue
with
that,
but
I
think
if
you're
just
building
a
gazebo,
maybe
that's
not
an
issue.
So
yes,.
P
I'd
love
to
do
that
and
I
appreciate
that
the
Gazebo
is
going
to
lie
only
partially
in
the
easement
and
they've
actually
moved
the
plans
back
to
another
location
as
it
stands
in
case
this
is
not
approved
so
we'll
move
forward
if
we're
allowed.
Thank
you
thank.
Q
You,
commission,
Noble,
no
I,
don't
I
don't
have
any
questions
either
so.
A
A
R
Down-
and
we
just
was
helping.
R
Solomon,
which
was
Keisha
Jacobs
before
we
got
married,
but
we
just
wishing
to
build
our
first
home
together
as
a
married
couple
and
hoping
that
we'll
get
it
rezoned.
So
we
can
start
our
forever
home.
A
Excellent,
this
is
in
Ward,
seven
I
have
no
questions
and
I'm
in
total
support.
Are
there
any
other
questions
from
comments
from
commissions?
I
cannot
make
a
motion.
A
S
1208
Remington
Road
Oklahoma
City,
we
own
the
land
here
been
there
for
26
years,
raising
bucking
stock
and
stuff
like
this
Rodeo
stock
found
out
in
January,
we're
not
in
commission
compliance
with
the
zoning,
and
they
said
you
need
to
Zone
it
double
A
and
you're
good
to
go
so
after
26
years.
S
A
S
A
So
something
to
think
about,
though
I'm
coming
down
there
I'm
bringing
the
family
down
there.
It's
a
lot
of
fun.
S
A
E
Q
I've
seen
I
have
no
problems
with
it.
There's
nothing
to
it.
A
D
U
Good
afternoon
Thorn
Stallings
3120
Northwest
22nd
Street
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
What
we're
doing
here
is
we're
just
looking
to
rezone
this
from
a
commercial
C3
use
to
an
Spud,
it's
an
empty
lot.
It
said
vacant
for
many
decades.
Residential
use
is
consistent
with
the
surrounding
environment.
U
A
A
A
D
V
Good
afternoon
Mark
zitza
with
Johnson
Associates
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
This
is
a
project.
We're
pretty
excited
to
see
happen.
It's
immediately
north
of
the
historic
wall
court
that
was
recently
renovated
and
won
a
Uli
impact
award.
If
you
attended,
you
saw
that,
but
our
client
lives
across
the
street
from
this
project
and
has
built
the
homes
across
there,
as
well,
with
the
exception
of
the
one
furthest
west
one,
that's
one
of
the
historic
homes.
This
area
was
bisected
by
I-235,
which
caused
the
cul-de-sac
on
Northeast
14th
Street.
V
V
Our
client
believes
that
a
front
yard
privacy
area
is
necessary
to
sell
these
homes.
So
what
we've
done
is
added
this
into
the
SPD
that
limits
the
front
yard
fence
to
six
feet
four
feet
of
stucco
or
masonry
material
and
then
two
feet
of
wood
or
metal
on
top
of
it.
In
addition,
we
added
a
four
foot
landscape
buffer
on
the
outside
of
the
wall
to
help
soften
it.
We
forwarded
this
to
one
of
the
neighbors
who
was
protesting.
V
A
A
A
I
have
no
questions
I'm
in
sport.
Any
questions
comments
from
commissions
any
when
no
one
signed
up
to
speak
I
cannot
make
the
motion.
A
A
D
E
Again,
David
box,
5
22
Concord
Drive
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
This
is
a
closing
application.
It's
a
continuation
of
CE
1079
that
was
previously
approved
by
Planning
Commission.
There
is
a
te
we
agree
to
it
and,
if
we're
going
to
hand
out
Awards,
it
should
be
something
like
this.
That's
so
perfectly
crafted
that
no
protest
even
gets
embedded
in.
A
B
A
E
A
This
I've
seen
this
is
in
Ward
7.
Obviously,
I
have
seen
these
similar
developments
that
the
own
the
property
owner
has
has
in
other
areas
nearby.
It's
pretty
consistent
with
that
area
that
slowly
slowly
turning
industrial,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
the
future
of
this
entire
space.
So
I'm
I'm
in
support
of
this
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Commissioners.
A
I
F
W
So
this
one
was
complicated.
We
already
went
before
historic
preservation
to
get
a
recommendation
and
their
the
only
caveat
to
the
recommendation
is
that
they
wanted
the
language
for
lot
coverage
changed.
So
it
worked
that
out
with
City
staff,
and
we
went
with
an
open
space
requirement
instead,
since
we're
we're
not
changing
the
footprints
of
any
existing
buildings
on
the
site
and
it's
in
a
historic
district,
and
so
we
kind
of
wanted
to
leave
that
to
their
purview.
W
The
language
was
very
deferential
to
HP,
so
the
Spud
language
that
was
put
forward
had
70
open
space
requirement,
which
staff
felt
was
a
little
bit
limiting.
So
we
wanted
to
go
for
50,
which
is
what
the
R1
is.
Even
though
our
base
zoning
is
going
to
be
r4m
and
then
the
minimum
lot
sizes.
We
addressed
that
with
our
neighborhood
as
well
as
historic
preservation.
Commission,
our
minimum
lot
size,
that's
in
our
MDS,
is
10
feet
and
that
was
to
allow
for
Panhandle.
W
At
the
front,
we
eliminated
the
parking
that
was
in
the
front
setback
which
really
pleased
HP
we
allowed
for
some
more
parking
without
it
being.
You
know,
right
in
front
of
the
front
house,
and
this
whole
thing
was
interesting
because
it's
the
house
was
in
such
poor
condition
that
we
really
honestly
probably
could
have
gotten
HP
to
let
us
tear
it
down,
and
so
we've
gone
through
all
that
and
now
worked
something
out,
I
think
it's
workable
for
everyone,
so
we
resolved
our
tees
I.
Think
so
right,
okay,.
F
Okay,
yeah
we'll
have
to
talk
about
how
we
resolved
our
Tes,
but
one
of
the
things
for
me.
This
application
was
really
mostly
about
being
able
to
preserve
the
home
and
preserve
even
the
rear
structure,
which
has
obviously
been
what
it's
going
to
be
for
a
long
time.
They're
they're
increasing
the
number
of
units,
but
I'm
not
concerned
about
that.
They
have
room
to
provide
parking
for
that
on
site.
F
It
was
about
the
front
yard
parking
that
was
my
biggest
obstacle
to
getting
to
approval
on
this
thing,
and
so
I
want
to
be
very
clear
about
this.
There
will
be
a
drive
that
will
go
up
the
east
side
of
the
property
that
will
provide
access
to
the
back
and
to
the
parking
that
will
be
for
the
back
and
that
will
be
on
site
and
not
in
the
street,
and
then
there
will
be
another
drive
that
will
that
will
access
off
of
the
the
East.
You
know
the
west
side.
F
About
this
of
the
lot,
but
I
want
to
be
sure
that
that
is
going
to
go
up
beside
the
house.
I
mean
getting
the
parking
out
of
the
front
yard
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
I
mean
it's
just
a
pad
right
now,
but
to
restore
that
is
important
to
me.
So
something
I
saw
and
I
don't
even
know
now
what
it
is,
because
I
can't
find
it.
F
But
it
seemed
to
indicate
that
that
the
drive
on
on
the
west
side
was
only
going
to
be
like
up
to
the
front
of
the
house.
V
W
Historic
preservation's
concern
was
that
if
we
made
that
parking
so
deep
that
they
could
then
they're
just
going
to
stack
a
bunch
of
cars
in
there
and
they're
going
to
park
out
in
the
front
anyway,
and
so
that's
why
they
had
kind
of
wanted
us
to
limit
it
there.
That
is
not
in
their
official
recommendation,
so
I
think
it
does
defer
to
you
guys.
F
W
Yourself,
either
way
because
we
felt
like
it
was,
it
was
a
great
compromise
for
us
either
direction
if
we
do
extend
it
past
the
front
setback
where
it
is
now,
it
does
put
our
total,
lock
coverage
back
up
quite
High,
which
it
already
is
on
the
site,
we're
well
over
what
is
allowed,
and
so
a
lot
of
this
was
really
us
trying
to
work
within
that.
W
So
we're
willing
to
go
up
the
side,
but
it
may
be
one
of
those
things
that
that
City
staff.
W
A
W
Yeah
I
would
like
to
add
that
one
instead.
Well
it
changes
the
language
actually
says:
70,
that's!
What's
in
the
current
MDS,
we
want
City
staff
was
afraid
that
it
might
limit
us
a
little
too
much
and
it
might
put
us
right
on
the
cusp
of
it.
So
50
just
kind
of
made
the
math
a
little
bit
more
plus
it's.
What
R1
is
anyway.
70
is
very
restrictive.
Yeah.
W
Be
the
te
numbers
one
and
two
should
be-
should
be
taken
off
the
minimum
lot,
width
and
and
size.
W
P
F
So
I'll
make
much
to
approve
SPD
1466
with
the
elimination
of
Tes
one
and
two
and
the
addition
of.
However,
we
want
to
talk
about
that
te
number
four,
indicating
that
the
open
space
requirement
will
be
set
at
50
percent.
A
The
motion
Commission
of
powers
has
moved,
recommend
approval
of
Spud
1466,
subject
to
the
following
amendments:
to
the
technical
evaluation,
the
elimination
of
te's
one
and
two,
and
the
addition
of
the
open
space
requirement
set
at
50
percent.
That
motion
has
been
second
about.
Commissioner
Hinkle.
Please
cast
your
votes
when
available.
D
Y
Good
afternoon
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Source
Louis
I
am
with
Kings
Consulting
LLC
I'm
representing
the
applicant.
We
are
proposing
designing
a
multi-hour
split
development
targeted
for
specifically
for
veterans,
it's
in
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood.
That
also
has
a
few
R2
r4s
nearby.
The
land's
been
vacant
for
a
while,
but
I'm
open
to
answering
any
questions
or
concerns.
A
So
this
is
in
my
ward,
I
think
this.
It's
important
to
note
that
this
is
a
very
it's
a
different
kind
of
area
number
one.
On
the
North
side,
you
have
the
extensive
you
have
churches
and
Well
on
some
large
campuses
and
then
to
the
West.
That's
the
American
Legion
office.
It's
certainly
a
lot
of
our
one
in
this
area,
but
I
think
things
are
going
to
also
continue
to
change
as
the
Clara
Looper
museum
is
being
built
about
a
block
away
as
well,
so
certainly
want
to
help
our
veterans.
A
This
lot
is,
has
not
been
used.
I
mean
it's
been
vacant
for
quite
some
time.
It
seems
so.
I'm
I'm
in
support
of
this
I
would
say
to
the
applicant
I
would
highly
recommend
if
you
haven't
already
visit
with
councilwoman
nice
I
think
you
should
go
ahead
and
have
those
conversations
soon,
but
I
I
am
in
support
of
this
any
questions.
Comments
from
commissioners
are
there
Bulls
I.
Z
Z
Is
this
is
just
one
of
those
technicalities
that
I've
been
trying
to
clean
up
in
some
of
the
language,
so
you're
allowed
exterior
building
wall
finish
materials
of
70,
brick,
veneer,
rock
or
stone
masonry,
stone,
stucco
or
wood
in
that
list,
as
written
is
includes,
drive
it
Rock,
which
is
effectively
a
anephus
product.
So
if
we're
limiting
ephus
to
30
percent
maximum
in
the
following
sentence,
that
would
include
the
drive
it
so
I'm
just
trying
to
strike
drive
it
Rock
from
the
the
way
that
it's
written
I.
A
A
We
need
to
add
a
te
eliminating
drive
it
from
the
I.
B
A
So
the
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
Spud
1503
to
city
council,
it's
subject
to
the
technical
evaluations
and
the
addition
of
technical,
evaluate
evaluation.
4
that
eliminates
drive
it
Rock
from
the
architectural
materials
that
motion's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
govine.
Please
cash.
Your
votes,
unavailable.
F
A
A
A
A
Z
Z
F
V
Good
afternoon,
Mark
zitza
with
Johnson
and
Associates
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
I,
think
we
have
another
award
winning
application
before
you
today.
This
is
a
project
on
Northwest,
23rd
and
Francis.
Right
now
there
are
two
existing
homes
that
have
seen
significant
renovations
to
the
front
facade.
We
come
to
you
with
a
recommendation
of
approval
from
the
Urban
Design
commission.
We
are
proposing
a
multi-family
development.
V
The
line
work
that
you
see
on
23rd
Street
in
the
on
street
parking.
The
lanes
is
actually
the
city's
proposed
streetscape
work.
We've
been
working
with
their
consultant
to
make
sure
our
Frontage
aligns
with
the
new
streetscape
project
that
is
in
the
works.
So
with
that,
we
would
ask
for
your
approval.
Z
Sure
I
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
applicant
I
reviewed
this
site
and
surroundings.
You
know,
Urban
Design
is
recommended
approval,
I,
don't
have
any
issues
with
it.
I
think
it's
a
they're
asking
for
a
very
modest
height
increase
of
five
feet.
There's
multi-family
already
existing
behind
it
with
some
single
separated
by
a
functional,
improved
alley.
A
V
F
I
F
F
Z
There
were
some
creative
additions
to
those
homes
to
turn
them
into
businesses.
At
some
point
in
the
past,
but
well
I
will
Mr
chairman
like
to
recommend
approval
of
spot
1481
city
council.
A
A
T
F
Not
an
applicant
present
we're
going
to
continue
this
past
two
weeks,
there's
a
little
bit
of
confusion
about
what
they
actually
are
going
to
build
on
this,
and
we
have
discussed
it,
but
it
has
not
made
it
through
the
staff
report.
I
want
to
be
clear
rather
than
not
clear,
and
so
I
talked
to
a
Mr
Ryman
Philippe.
Before
the
meeting
he
agreed
that
it
was
fine
to
take
two
weeks
only
so
to
March
23rd,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
this
case
continue
and
his
present
his
life
is
presence
here
today.
A
I
think
in
the
pre-meeting
some
concerns
were
brought
up,
so
we
might
want
to
you
might
visit
with
Dustin
about
some
of
the
issues
with
the
the
property
lines
and
and
the
utility
access-
and
you
know,
maybe
even
consider,
going
down
to
three
homes
instead
of
instead
of
four.
But
you
know
all.
A
Z
We
did
just
approve
a
panhandle
case
a
few
minutes
ago,
there's
only
two
homes
but
same
concept
that
they're
doing
here.
As
far
as
utilities,
I.
F
F
A
D
Yeah,
we
can
certainly
do
that
we'll
take
a
look
and
see
kind
of
where
that
would
fit
in
the
schedule
when
we
were
going
to
talk
about
after
the
meeting
kind
of
what
our
schedule
is
on
study
sessions.
So.
F
A
AA
Dustin
cigarettes
utility
department,
I,
was
just
going
to
let
you
know
on
our
study
session
on
the
27th.
This
was
the
exact
topic
that
I
was
going
to
cover
and
I
was
going
to
use
this
case
as
an
example
and
there's
several
other
cases
like
this
that
we
can
discuss,
then
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is,
but
it
is.
AA
Is
it
is
causing
some
issues
and
I
was
wanting
to
you
know,
bring
it
up
to
your
attention
to
see
how
we
can
get
creative
and
to
be
able
to
help
protect
the
the
future
homeowner
for
future
troubles
in
advance,
and
things
like
that.
So
we've
have
seen
some
issues
where
it
has
been
done
before,
and
issues
have
Arisen
for
the
homeowner,
and
now
they
have
actually
have
to
do
more
expensive
repairs
for
their
sewer
lines
and
water
lines.
Because
of
the
situation
that
they
were
in.
A
F
A
A
Okay
and
so
I
think
I,
don't
know
if
Stat
City
staff
explained
to
you
that
there
they
had
a
couple
of
recommendations
to
changes
to
your
Spud
application.
They
want
to
they're
asking
us
to
eliminate
any
of
the
outdoor
uses
that
you
asked
for.
So
there
were
several
several
of
those
outdoor
uses
that
you
asked
for
so,
for
example,
outdoor
sales
and
displays
participant,
Recreation
and
entertainment,
outdoor
and
spectator
sports
and
entertainment
I'm.
Assuming
that's
a
lot
is
that
outdoor
yeah.
F
AB
A
And
then
the
next
question
is
the
staff
is
asking
that
any
new
parking
lots
be
located
behind
your
property.
So
if
you
built
any
new
property
parking
lots
with
the
existing
homes
or
if
you
were
to
tear
down
those
homes
and
build
a
new
building,
they're
asking
that
you,
you
put
the
parking
lots
in
the
back,
not
enough,
okay,
so
you're
in
support
of
that,
we.
Z
So
there's
some
requirements
listed
in
here
that
are
the
wording,
is
if
a
if
the
homes
are
torn
down
and
a
new
structure
is
built.
But
I
had
concerns
about,
regardless
of
of
whether
it's
a
new
structure
or
it's
just
redeveloping
the
site
to
add
parking.
If
those
homes
were
to
become
commercial
uses,
which
is
your
intent
as
I
understand,
that
would
still
create
a
potential
nuisance
to
the
neighbors
behind
you.
So
I
would
like
to
add-
and
this
is
for
for
discussion
or
comment.
I
A
Z
A
We
might
want
to
clarify
that,
and
in
addition
to
that,
commissioner
govine
I
did
ask
our
resident
landscape
architect,
slash
traffic
commissioner,
slash
Vice,
chair
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
slash
Award
winner,
we're
giving
away
we're
giving
out
awards
today
to
give
us
some
recommendations,
also
on
the
landscape
up
because
I
was
concerned,
whether
that
was
enough.
Yeah.
A
Z
Well,
but
let
me,
let
me
add
one
more
point
on
I
think
because
of
the
proximity
to
the
homes
to
our
South
bars
are
a
use
that
I
believe
would
be
considered
an
issue
I'm
not
trying
to
pick
on
eating
establishments.
Sit
down.
Eating
establishments
sit
down
with
alcohol,
but
I
would
like
to
ask
if
you
would
be
amenable
to
removing
drinking
establishments
from
your
allowed
uses
as
well.
AB
A
A
B
Yeah
I
looked
at
it.
My
concern
is
and
I
mean
I'm
all
for
it.
Five
foot
would
be
minimum
five
foot
width
sight.
Proof.
Screening
I'd
like
to
see
10
there.
That
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
room
to
do
at
least
some
flowering
trees
or
taller
shrubs
that
can
kind
of
get
up
and
and
be
of
a
height
to
to
obscure
from
the
from
the
the
neighboring
residences.
My
concern
is:
is
that
if
they're
going
to
add
parking,
you've
got
20
foot
for
parking?
B
If
it's
a
two-way
drive
out,
you've
got
24
foot
and
then,
if
you,
if
it's
double
loaded
parking,
then
you've
got
another
20..
So
you
need
65
feet
of
Paving
of
parking
and
then
a
five
foot
landscape.
So
that's
70
feet
so
I'm,
just
not
sure
that
that's
70
feet
there.
So
if
it's
only
going
to
be
single
loaded
parking,
I,
don't
know
if
that
gets
it
gets
you
the
required
spaces,
but
that
would
give
you
the
room
to
do.
You
know
a
larger
landscape
buffer.
Z
AC
A
A
And
you
can
have
a
seat
while
we're
allowing
the
the
neighbors
to
speak.
C
Obviously,
our
concerns
are
just
what
is
happening
here
and
how
will
it
affect
our
privacy?
Our
backyards
we've
worked
really
hard
to
to
develop
our
street,
get
it
back
up
in
shape.
We've
got
it
down
to
where
we
only
have
a
couple
of
rental
properties
on
the
street.
Now,
mostly
it's
a
homeowned
occupancy
and
and
everyone's
working
on
their
Landscaping,
we're
just
trying
to
you
know,
obviously
increase
our
property
values
but
increase
the
the
value
of
of
the
neighborhood,
aesthetically
and
monetarily.
I
A
I
think,
hopefully,
you
heard
from
the
discussion
that
we're
having
that
we
share
that
concern,
and
so
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
come
up
with
the
right
ways
to
ensure
that
people
can
still
enjoy
the
use
of
the
properties
on
your
street,
while
also
respecting
the
understanding
that
23rd
Street
is,
is
highly
intense
and
is
going
to
continue
to
only
become
more
intense.
So
how
do
we
build
in
enough
respect
for
both
both
needs?.
A
C
I
think
anything
over
a
single
story
would
be
very
strongly
impactful
to
our
our
properties,
because
they
would
Overlook
our
our
fences
into
our
backyards
and
our
the
back
rooms
of
our
houses.
At
this
point
you
know
we
didn't
see
this
coming
at
all,
but
Dutch
Brothers,
you
know
built
across
the
23rd
Street.
We
have
French
doors
that
look
out
our
back
garden
and
suddenly
we
have
this
blue
neon
sign
that
shines
through
our
back
door.
C
24
7.,
that
was
that
was
a
surprise,
so
those
sorts
of
things
you
know
we
just
we'd
like
to
nip
it
in
the
bud
and
keep
it
from
happening
before
it
happens.
If
it's
going
to
be
an
issue,
I
think
the
Landscaping
is
great.
I
have
one
concern
because
obviously
I'm
a
landscape,
designer
and
I've,
you
know
put
plants
in
my
back
Garden,
but
one
concern
is
OG.
C
E
is
kind
of
gone
rampant
with
killing
trees
that
are
anywhere
near
their
power
lines,
and
there
is
a
power
line
that
goes
through
that
between
those
property
lines.
So
we
need
to
be
very
cognitive
that
there
will
be
a
height
limitation
from
them
for
what
we
can
do
to
protect
that
sight
line.
So
your.
AD
C
AD
C
F
F
C
Plus
any
windows
or
upstairs
patios
that
are
two
stories
tall.
They
would
be
looking
into
our
property
as
well.
So
there's
side,
alignment
and
there's
parking
I
think
those
are
our
concerns.
Plus
noise
smell
I
mean
you
know,
I
guess
I
could
go
through
the
gamut,
but
smell
noise.
All
those
things
would
be
issues
so.
F
F
Yeah
and
would
need
to
be
addressed
in
terms
of
if
the
buildings
that
are
currently
existing
are
removed,
that
whatever
replaces
them
be
single
story
that.
F
AD
AD
AD
AD
C
A
And
it
is
just
as
a
reminder
to
commissioners,
you
know,
while
the
the
trans
have
not
asked
for
a
specific
I,
don't
have
specific
plans
in
mind.
You
know
it's
just
important
for
us
to
remember:
we've
got
to
make
our
decision
based
on
the
the
uses
that
are
listed.
You
know
and
and
use
our
imagination
about
what
what
could
go
wrong
is
sent
with,
with
the
uses
that
we're
allowing
so
we
can
try
to
address
them.
Maybe
that's
a
negative
way
of
saying
that
go
ahead
is.
D
AC
We
typically
only
do
the
specific
plan,
that's
a
PUD
process.
We
typically
only
do
it
for
puds.
F
Z
Yeah
I
agree
I'm
open
to
that
and
that
kind
of
alleviates
the
concern
of
you
know.
We
don't
really
want
these
homes
to
be
torn
down,
but
that
could
happen
and
even
though
they're
saying
that's
not
necessarily
the
intent
now,
if
someone
did
do
that
and
they
sold
a
lot,
they'd
have
to
come
back
in
front
of
us.
F
A
A
Z
I
F
A
Let's
cross
our
eyes
and
daughter.
Excuse
me
cross
our
T's
and
Dot
our
eyes
on
that.
Our
next
speaker
is
Dane
corber.
AE
When
I
first
got
my
letter,
there
wasn't
a
spud
or
anything
online,
so
I
didn't
really
get
a
chance
to
actually
submit
materials,
but
I
went
ahead
and
just
printed
off
three
pages
for
you
guys.
If
you
okay
can
I
hand
that
out.
AE
AE
Factors
caused
by
uses
served
a
larger
part
of
the
city,
but
I
think
if
you
turn
this
into
commercial
you're
going
to
increase
the
traffic
in
the
area,
I,
don't
think
that
you
know,
there's
just
no
proposed
plan
for
this,
like
the
last
Spud
you
just
had
here,
you
guys
canceled
it
because
they
had
no
plan
for
it.
I,
don't
know
how
you
can
approve
this
with
like
not
knowing
what
they're
going
to
do.
AE
You're
kind
of
just
signing
a
blank
check
to
them
and
also
the
goal
of
a
spud
shouldn't
be
to
I,
guess,
circumvent
policies
or
lieu
of
regulations
they're
trying
to
circumvent
regulations
of
outdoor
music
that
type
of
stuff,
as
somebody
who
lives
there,
I'm
gonna
have
to
wake
up.
You
know
at
6am
and
go
see
patients
and
that
type
of
stuff
and
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
get
good
sleep.
AE
I
can
see
the
houses
from
my
backyard
I
have
a
electrical
receiving
building
20
feet
from
the
fans
of
the
properties
in
this
kind
of
what
I
moved
to
remove
is
I.
Don't
want
drinking
establishments
in
there.
The
8300.33
I
don't
want
the
8300.54
outdoor
sales
and
display
I.
Don't
want
participant,
Recreation
outdoor
I,
don't
want
spectator
sports
I.
Just
don't
want
any
outdoor
things
which
you
guys
did
address
for
maximum
Building
height.
They
addressed
it.
I,
don't
think
two
stories
are
appropriate
for
maximum
building
size.
The
way
they
kind
of
ride.
AE
Everything
is
almost
if
they're
going
to
redevelop
what
it
kind
of
sounds
like
is
they're
trying
to
redevelop
this
Zone
to
then
sell
to
somebody
else,
and
it's
probably
a
slippery
slope
I'd.
Rather,
the
person
that
buys
these
properties
go
through
the
rezoning,
like
the
appropriate
rezoning
of
what
they're
trying
to
do
with
it,
they're
just
trying
to
probably
increase
the
property
value
of
this
sell
it,
and
then
somebody
else
is
going
to
buy
it
down
the
line
and
now
we're
just
having
to
deal
with
more
regulations
and
setbacks.
AE
I'd
like
to
add
sound
requirements,
they're
trying
to
do
a
C1
zoning,
but
I'd
like
to
keep
the
R1
sound
requirements
for
the
state
for
landscaping.
It
reads
upon
Redevelopment
they'll
fix
the
Landscaping
I'd.
Rather
upon
rezoning,
they
fix
the
Landscaping.
If
they're
going
to
rezone
this
fix
the
Landscaping
in
the
area
for
signs
they're
trying
to
get
signs
that
were
20
feet,
high
and
120
square
feet
an
area.
That's
a
billboard!
I,
don't
really
want
Billboards
back
there
I
think
10
feet
high,
maybe
60
square
feet.
It's
probably
reasonable
for
a
sign.
AE
I,
don't
think
there
should
be
any
electronic
signs
in
the
backyard
I.
Don't
think
that's
going
to
help
and
then
also
for
parking.
It
says
somehow,
there's
already
enough
parking
for
it.
Parking
is
the
biggest
issue
for
this
I
I
mean
there's
some
Feats
that
you
can
do
with
parking
lots.
Maybe
they'll
be
able
to
get
a
lot
more
spots
than
I
think,
but
they
might
have
to
tear
down
one
of
the
buildings
and
also
in
this
addendum
thing,
there's
just
no
nothing
to
protect
the
buildings
from
getting
torn
down.
AE
You
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
do.
They
might
tear
down
a
building
and
put
a
parking
lot
in
which
might
be
a
solution
for
it.
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
really
worried
that
this
is
going
to
turn
into
what
the
plaza
District
does
and
two
streets
up.
There's
a
bar
and
everybody's
parking
on
22nd
Street,
some
of
the
houses
here
still
don't
have
garages
so
people
park
on
the
street
all
the
time
to
go
to
their
homes,
and
then
people
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
park
in
front
of
their
homes.
AE
I,
don't
know
if
they
can
meet
the
capacity
and
additionally,
I
just
think
the
hours
of
operation
shouldn't
be
past,
10
pm
for
anything
there's
nowhere
else
like
that,
there's
an
R1
Zone
surrounding
all
three
sides
of
it.
So
on
the
east
side,
there's
this
one
house,
that's
adjacent
to
it.
That's
still
R1,
then,
to
the
South
and
to
the
West.
L
AE
Yeah,
you
definitely
signage
the
height
Building
height
I.
Think
the
hours
of
operation
are
the
biggest
problem.
I,
don't
want
a
place
right
next
to
my
backyard
five
feet
from
it.
That's
open
till
2
A.M
with
a
parking
lot.
I
think
that's
dangerous
for
kids.
I!
Think
that's
dangerous
for
everything.
I
didn't
buy
my
house
where
I
bought
it
to
be
near
a
commercial
District
I'd.
AE
Rather
this
not
happen
to
be
honest,
but
I
understand
that
23rd
Street's,
changing
and
stuff
I
just
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
do
that
and
I
feel
like
it
makes
my
house
unsafe,
I
just
recently
renovated.
My
house
I,
put
like
150
000
into
it
like
this.
Is
everybody's
renovated
their
houses
around
here
I,
just
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
actually
have
this
done.
You're,
also
removing
residential
areas
from
a
city.
That's
already
having
problems
with
residential
stuff,
like
you
could
easily
fix
these
houses
up
for
residential
kind
of
all.
AE
A
There
is
no
one
else
signed
up
to
speak,
I,
don't
know
if
commissioner
govine,
commissioner
Powers,
if
we're
all
keeping
a
good
list
of
of
where
we
are.
Maybe
we
should
start
back
to
the
landscape.
A
AB
A
So
the
Landscaping
I
agree
with
Mr
corber
I
think
we
should
require
the
Landscaping
now
I
guess
if
we're
going
to
allow
these
New
Uses,
let's.
Z
Q
J
K
F
A
Yeah
that
makes
sense
that
that's
less
disruption,
you
know
and
I
think
that's
helpful
and
then,
if
we
redevelop,
if
the
property
is
redeveloped,
then
that's
when
we
will
want
to
kick
in
the
language
that
commissioner
Claire
wrote
about
the
10-foot.
You
were
saying
10
feet
and
go
ahead.
Commissioner,.
B
Yeah
I
would
say
10
feet
outside
of
any.
You
know:
utility
easements,
okay,.
B
Q
Z
I
B
Q
A
Z
AC
B
R
F
F
AC
B
A
J
I'm
just
outlining
the
tease,
you
already
went
through
you're
requiring
them
to
stay
at
one
story:
there's
utility
lines
above
and
below.
So
if
usually,
he
has
an
idea
about
trees
on,
say:
20-foot
centers,
evergreen
trees,
but
the
so,
if,
if
you
give
them
something
like
that,
we
assisted
them
in
writing
it,
and
some
of
the
stuff
was
a
draft
that
was
online.
But
the
final
is
what's
before
you,
and
so
we've
continued
them
several
times,
but
so
I
don't
know
if
they
understand
exactly
what's
happening
now.
J
AA
Dustin
cigarettes
utilities
department,
there's
a
sewer
line
in
the
backyard
running
along
the
fence
line.
Trees
need
to
be
10
feet
away
from
my
sewer
line,
so
reinforcing.
A
Z
I
mean
here's.
What
I
would
say:
I
mean
if
we're
requiring
a
minimum,
eight
foot
sight
per
roof
screen
and
we're
limiting
it
to
single
story.
Is
the
land
is
getting
tall,
trees
really
the
the
main
issue
here?
So
maybe
we
would
you
know
five
feet
or
ten
feet,
we're
still
keeping
the
cars
a
little
bit
further
off
the
fence
line.
You
know,
and
just
headlights
and
stuff
so
I
think
that's
still
a
valid
point,
but
what
gets
planted
there
is
kind
of,
maybe
not
the
Crux
of
the
issue.
Yeah.
A
A
A
Okay,
five,
okay!
So
let's
go
now
that
we've
handled
landscape
buffer,
let's
go
to
uses.
We
have
agreed
that
we
will
eliminate
to
Mr
corber's
Point,
eliminate
the
drinking
establishments,
and
that
was
something
that
Miss
Tran
already
agreed
to
do.
We
also
agree
that
we
will
eliminate
any
of
the
outdoor
uses,
which
I
believe
will
include.
A
8300.67
right
I
would
ask
that
we
eliminate
8
300.552
I
would
think.
A
A
Q
Z
A
A
Z
Here
this
is
a
tough
one.
I've
got
notes
all
over
the
place.
How
to
read
these
te's
should
I
make
an
attempt
at
a
motion
here,
yep
and.
Z
Z
To
e
number
two
new
parking
lots
shall
be
located
behind
buildings
that
face
Northwest
23rd
Street,
as
written
te
number
three,
any
new
structures
to
be
limited
to
one
story.
Z
Yes,
okay,
okay
number
four
shall
require
a
minimum.
Eight
foot
sight
proof
screen
to
be
installed
at
the
time
of
any
change
of
use,
as
well
as
a
minimum.
Five
foot
landscape
buffer
outside
of
the
existing
utility
easement.
A
Z
Z
Te
number
five
tea
numbers
if
I
own
seven.
Oh,
this
is
a
myth.
Z
Hours
of
operation
shall
be
limited
to
10
p.m.
On
weekdays,
midnight
on
Friday
and
Saturday
nights
as
considered
weekends.
Z
Te
number
eight
sight
lighting
shall
be
kept
below
the
eaves
and
signage
shall
not
be
visible
above
the
roof
line.
A
Would
be
good,
can
we
Curtis,
would
you
and
I
don't
know
Mr
Miss
Tran
if,
if
you've
understood
what
all
we
just
discussed.
A
Now
the
motion
is
to
commissioner
govind.
That
was,
you
made
the
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
Spud
1499
City
Council,
subject
to
the
extensive
list
of
technical
evaluations
as
read
into
the
record.
Is
there
a
second.
F
A
And
the
motion
passes
and
I
would
remind
remind
our
neighbors.
We
are
we're
recommending
body
on
rezoning,
so
it
will
go
before
the
city
council
in
which
they
have
the
exact
same
ability
to
make
changes
just
like
we
did.
So,
if
you
were
unsatisfied
by
some
of
the
things
that
we
suggested
recommended,
you
still
have
an
opportunity
for
them
to
be
changed
when
in
front
of
the
city
council.
So
we're
now
in
line
for
item
22.
AC
Item
22
is
previously
item.
23
is
CPA
230001
consideration
of
a
proposed
map
Amendment
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
changing
the
land
use,
type
typology
area
by
removing
the
agricultural
preserve
layer
and
changing
the
base
layer
from
rural
low
to
rural
medium
on
land,
located
west
of
Cimarron
Road
and
North
of
Southwest
15th
Street.
X
X
X
Conditions
and
Provisions
for
higher
level
of
services
have
not
changed
for
the
subject:
size
site,
no
expectation
for
extension
of
urban
infrastructure
or
future
fire
station
to
improve
response
time.
The
site
is
not
proximate
to
either
Urban
low
or
open
Future
designated
areas.
The
staff
recommends
denial
of
their
requests.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
let
me
know.
O
Icon,
I
I,
don't
have
any
questions.
O
When
we
say
when
we
say
it's
not
near,
the
site
is
not
approximate
to
either
UL
or
UF.
O
X
A
E
Good
afternoon
David
box,
522,
Concord,
Drive,
so
I
think
the
image
for
you
is
probably
the
most
telling.
What
we're
asking
to
do
is
to
allow
the
15
Acres
that
are
part
of
this
track
to
be
the
same
designation
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
last
year.
So
my
client
owns
the
approximately
100
acres
west
of
this
and
it's
already
zoned
in
a
p.
You
need
allow
two
acre
lots.
It
has
a
preliminary
plot,
that's
been
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
This
would
simply
add
a
few
Lots
on
these
15
Acres.
O
O
That
development
that's
coming
in,
that's
adjacent
to
it.
There
is
development,
that's
coming
in
that's
fairly
close,
so
I
am
I,
am
in
agreement
to
align
with
the
decisions
that
were
made
on
PUD
1832
and
approve
the
request
to
amend
the
comprehensive
plan.
A
A
I
have
concerns
about
access
to
Utilities
in
the
long
run,
I
have
concerns
about
access
to
police
and
fire
and
other
of
those
Emergency
Services,
especially
since
the
people
who
buy
homes
in
this
area
aren't
made
aware
of
of
the
fact
that
that
that's
the
case,
that's
exactly
why
I
have
asked
staff
for
us
to
have
a
study
session
about
this,
because
I
am
deeply
concerned
about
urban
sprawl
for
Oklahoma
City,
and
so,
while
I'm
going
to
vote
yesterday
and
I
Mr
Box
can
hear
me
say
it
today.
A
That
does
not
mean
that
I'm
committed
to
continuing
to
vote
for
for
these
kinds
of
developments
happening
as
I
become
better
educated
on
how
we
can
address
these
issues
in
the
future.
So
I'm
going
to
vote
Yes,
but
yeah
I
just
wanted
everyone
to
be
aware.
F
I
agree
with
you
with
all
that
and
I
would
really
like
for
staff,
even
if
it's
just
25
words
or
less
so
tell
us
why
we
shouldn't
do
this.
What
what
problems
are
we
creating
for
ourselves
with
respect,
especially
the
utilities,
but
also
with
respect
to
all
the
other
issues
that
are
are
sort
of
at
play
here?
F
We
have
done
this
in
the
past.
There's
no
question
about
that.
It
does
not
behooves
to
continue
making
the
same
mistake
over
and
over,
if,
indeed
it
is
a
mistake,
and
so
I
I
would
just
like
to
hear
you
know
the
what
it
is.
That's
it's
on
the
Block
here.
You
know:
what
is
it?
What
is
it?
Why
shouldn't
we
do
this.
AA
From
a
utility
standpoint,
the
water-
this
is
a
special
situation-
is
the
Canadian
County
Water
Authority
has
jurisdiction
in
this
area,
so
therefore
they
actually
have
a
water
line
that
is
close
to
this
subdivision
and
according
to
federal
law,
is
they
have
to
release
that
jurisdiction
to
us
for
us
to
serve
them?
AA
And
so,
but,
however,
the
water
line
that
we
have
there
is
a
12
inch
line,
and
so
therefore
it's
that
capacity,
so
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
serve
the
subdivision,
even
if
the
Canadian
County
Water
Authority,
said
that
we
could
serve
them.
The
other
thing,
too,
is
with.
There
is
no
sewer
within
miles
of
this,
so
everything
is
going
to
be
on
septic
unless
it's
from
a
utility
standpoint
and.
AA
Yes,
that's
right
and
the
only
way
that
sewer
will
get
out
there
is
if
they
built
it.
However,
with
through
the
Topography
of
that
is
gravity
sewer,
there
really
needs
to
be
a
new
sewer
treatment
plant
out
in
this
area.
I
know
there
has
been
discussions
with
the
City
of
Yukon
to
be
able
to
look
at
a
regional
plan
to
be
able
to
see
this,
because
this
is
the
issue
that
we're
seeing
out
west
for
the
development
out
there
and
that's
the
major
hurdle
that
we
have
to
overcome.
F
You
know
about
about
there
being
sort
of
a
different
outcome
for
different
applicants
with
basically
the
same
set
of
facts.
That's
problematic.
If
you're
gonna
regulate
land,
you
need
to
do
it
in
a
way.
That's
you
know
even-handed
and
lands
on
people
in
the
same
way,
I
too
will
very
reluctantly
vote
in
favor
of
this
today,
but
I
feel
like
I
could
just
as
easily
do
the
opposite
and
I
feel
like
we.
As
a
commission
I
know
we
come
and
go
as
individual
Commissioners
and
ideas
and
attitudes
change
about
things.
F
Our
previous
chairman
was
fond
of
telling
people
that
you
know
infrastructure
follows
developments.
F
A
lot
of
you
that
I
agree
with
in
terms
of
policy
and
I.
Don't
think
you
know
you
let
the
wild
west
run
wild
until
suddenly
one
day
civilization
shows
up.
I,
just
don't
think
that's
going
to
work,
but
it
also
is
creating
issues
that
are
expensive
for
the
city,
and
that
is
a
problem.
So
I
I
would
really
very
much
like
for
us
to
give
a
lot
of
long
hard
thought
about
this.
F
F
Z
Z
We
have
a
plan
and
it's
one
of
the
few
things
we
have
to
kind
of
lean
back
on
as
the
commission
here
so
I'm,
not
in
support
of
this
this
case
today,
but
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
F
E
Z
Z
V
E
V
E
Gonna
continue
to
and
the
water
and
sewer
is
always
the
issue.
I
think
the
difference
here
is
what's
proposed
is
two
acre
lots.
The
fights
and
the
concerns
have
typically
been
the
half
acre
lots,
and
perhaps
even
the
one
acre
two
acre
lots.
A
two
acre
lot's
a
large
lot.
It's
true.
Those
concerns
typically
aren't
present
on
the
two
acre
lots.
I
mean
odeq,
allows
private
on-site
sewer,
Solutions
at
a
half
acre
right
and
we're
at
what
4x
that
so
I.
C
E
I
Is
well
but.
K
A
X
I
want
to
add
a
real,
quick
comment.
I
think
it
is
true.
The
comprehensive
plan
was
men
and
that's.
Why
there's
a
procedure
to
do
Amendment,
but
we
need
to
be
very
careful
that
those
amendments
needs
to
be
when
they
are
appropriate
in
terms
of
the
septic
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
one
of
our.
X
This
is
the
future
of
Oklahoma
City
and
we
need
to
really
think
about
that
and
how
are
we
affecting
you
know
our
water
supply
with
the
septic
system
and
again
we're
going
to
talk
a
little,
not
a
little
a
lot
more
about
that
in
our
coming
to
the
session.
We
always
talk
about
half
an
acre
one
acre
lot
sizes,
but
the
truth
is
we
forget
that
the
definition
of
the
the
same
rule
is
that
is
for
small
rural.
X
A
O
Can
okay
I'm
motion
approval
of
cpa2023-00001.
A
Commissioner,
Fraley
moves
approval
of
the
comp
plan.
Amendment
zero
2023-0001.
A
I
Z
H
L
Z
N
F
A
I
E
Hello,
David,
Box
22
call
Court
Drive.
This
is
the
15
acre
track
next
to
PUD
1832
the
again.
The
preliminary
plot
for
1832
has
been
approved
and
it
will
work
in
conjunction
with
that
development.
There
are
two
te's
that
we
agree
to
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
think
Mark
zetzel
came
back,
hoping
that
there
were
more
Awards
to
be
given
yeah.
O
O
I
do
have
one
question,
yes,
so
in
in
the
uses
permitted
8.1
item
one
most
of
these
are
are
residential
excuses,
but
I
do
I
am
concerned
about
the
composting
and
I
got
to
talk
with
staff
about
the
composting
and
asked
if
we
can
clarify
or
put
it
in
a
te.
The
composting
subject
to.
O
A
O
A
The
commissioner
Fraley
moves
to
recommend
approval
of
PUD
1932
to
city
council,
subject
to
the
technical
technical
evaluation
as
read
into
the
record.
That
motion
has
been
seconded,
I,
hope
bye.
A
E
Close,
thank
you
I.
In
all
seriousness.
In
terms
of
awards,
the
chair
did
receive
an
award.
He
was
named
to
the
40
under
40.,
so
that's
a
real
award
and.
A
Thank
you
and
that
concludes
our
separate
items
to
be
heard.
There
are
no
additional
items
we're
on
to
commit
Communications
and
reports
any
reports
from
Planning
Commission
committees,
seeing
none
we're
on
a
Planning,
Commission
members.
Commissioner
Claire
nothing
for
me,
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
Fraley
commissioner
privet
nope,
commissioner
Hinkle
govine,
nope,
commission,
Noble.
I
F
I
think
it
is
a
good
thing
for
us
to
remember
in
terms
of
why
we
try
to
work
out
issues
before
they
come
before
us,
so
that
we
don't
end
up
designing
things
from
the
Horseshoe,
because
that's
the
way
it
goes
it
takes
forever.
It's
complicated,
it's
confusing
it's
you
know,
I
mean
this
was
kind
of
a
special
circumstance,
but
I
I
think.
F
Perhaps
we
should
re-invigorate
the
the
practice
of
giving
applicants
that
we
send
away
to
do
puds
or
spuds
some
input.
Maybe
it
would
at
least
cut
down.
I
mean
it
was
a
little
bit
iffy
of
whether
that
would
come
back
to
us
or
not
exactly.
A
F
You
know
yeah,
there
was
a
lot
that
we
had
to
kind
of
hobble
together
there
to
make
that
one
work
and
that's
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
Every
day,
I.
A
I
agree
and
I
I'd
ask
Commissioners,
you
know
as
you're,
seeing
the
controversial
cases
that
you
think
an
Spud
might
be
required
for
go
ahead
and
have
those
conversations
with
the
applicant
in
advance.
So
we
can.
We
can
work
that
out.
I
think
you
know.
Most
of
us
have
been
on
long
enough
to
sort
of
know
the
issues
that
each
other
might
be
worried
about,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
help
facilitate
those
conversations
as
well.
A
A
A
Z
X
Z
Been
waiting
for
them
to
contact
me,
and
so
when
they
haven't
I
haven't
reached
out
and
that's
probably
something
I
should
take
away.
Do
more
of
I'm.
F
Not
only
open
but
want
to
hear
about
anything,
that's
coming
along
in
my
ward,
which
I
don't
have
the
volume
that
some
other
Commissioners
have
so
yeah
I,
always
I.
Let
them
know
so
they
can
steer
people
to
me
and
if
I
get.
You
know
a
word
that
somebody
has
been
in
to
ask
about
something:
I
go
ahead
and
contact
them.
Z
Is
usually
yeah?
That's
what
tends
to
happen.
We
had
a
little
back
and
forth
on
because
I
know
staff
was
writing
up
that
Spud
for
them
and
there
was
a
draft
that
circulated
around,
but
you
know
there's
other
issues
that
weren't
really
hadn't
come
to
light
at
that
point.
So
anyways
appreciate
the
suggestions.
A
Agree
all
right
right.
Why
can't
we
just
be
fun
like
Ward,
five,
okay
planning
department,
nothing
Municipal,
counselor's
office
citizens
to
be
heard:
where's
Mr,
Warrior,
I'm
gonna,
have
to
if
he's
watching.
Where
are
you
Mr,
Warrior,
okay,
other
business?
Seeing
that
we
have
completed
our
business,
we
are
now
adjourned
and
it's
official.