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A
It's
1
30.
I
like
to
call
the
meeting
of
the
traffic
and
Transportation
Commission
for
March
20th
2023.
To
order
we'll
do
roll
call
we'll
go
to
commissioner
Barnell
president
commissioner.
Littlefield
president
commissioner
Hale
here,
sir
commissioner,
shoe
line
is
not
available,
commissioner.
Winning
is
not
available.
Commissioner
George
is
not
available
and
we'll
go
to
commissioner
coinance
do
have
a
quorum.
A
B
A
C
Right
I
want
to
highlight
a
few
things
that
are
in
our
report
for
this
month.
At
the
last
meeting,
there
was
a
question
raised
during
discussions
on
the
John
Rex
Elementary
always
stop
control
request
and
one
of
the
questions
was
ask
whether
the
use
of
a
temporary
stock
control
could
be
used
over
at
Western
or
I'm,
sorry
at
Sheridan
and
Dewey,
and
at
Walker
in
California.
C
Following
the
meeting
we
did
some
research
in
the
manual
and
uniform
traffic
control
devices
and
found
where
use
the
portable
or
part-time
use
of
stop
control
is
not
allowable,
except
in
case
of
an
emergency
or
for
temporary
traffic
control
purposes
and
by
temporary
traffic
control
purposes.
It
means
within
a
work
Zone.
C
So
since
we
verified
that
our
understanding
of
this
section,
which
would
basically
be
to
prohibit
the
part-time
use
of
stop
control,
verified
that
with
Matthew
Zeller
who's
with
the
Federal
Highway
Administration
Office
of
operations-
and
he
confirmed
our
assessment,
so
you
so
that
is
the
answer
that
question
and
another
question
came
up:
whether
whether
crossing
school
crossing
guards
could
stop
traffic
and
what
we
did
to
answer
this
question.
C
Is
we
contacted
Francine
Thomas
with
the
police
department
and
we
went
through
the
crossing
guard
training
course,
and
the
one
thing
that
was
emphasized
by
Mr
Thomas
to
us
is
that
crossing
guards
can
in
fact
stop
traffic.
They
can
interrupt
the
flow
of
traffic,
but
they
cannot
direct
traffic,
so
they
can't.
They
can't
require
you
to
turn
or
do
anything
else
like
that
they
are
limited
to
basically
finding
a
gap
in
traffic.
Taking
you
know,
putting
going
out
in
the
intersection
they'll
be
tired,
with
a
safety
vest
and
they'll
have
a
stop.
D
C
E
B
A
A
C
I've
been
in
the
communication
with
Miss
conkle
earlier
today
and
she
is
not
able
to
attend
the
meeting,
but
she
would
like
for
the
item
to
be
heard
today.
C
You've
got
our
comments
before
you.
The
request
is
to
to
reduce
the
speed
on
the
mile
from
a
mile
of
Mustang
Road
between
Hefner
and
Britain,
from
50
to
40.
to
the
south
of
Britain
Road,
it's
Mustang
Road
posted
50
to
the
north
of
Hefner
Road.
It's
posted
30,
where
it
goes
into
a
predominantly
residential
area.
The
area
between
Hefner
and
Britain
has
been
steadily
increasing
in
development.
C
The
aerial
photograph
that
you
that's
up
on
the
screen
before
you
I
mean
you
can
see
that
to
the
west
of
Mustang
Road
and
on
the
north
side
of
Britain
Road,
you
can
see
there's
new
development,
that's
still
ongoing.
In
this
particular
case,
the
speed
limit
reduction,
that's
being
requested,
is
somewhat
representative
of
what
we
discovered
when
we
were
doing
our
on-site
speed
surveys.
C
The
the
requested
40
mile
mile,
an
hour
limit
kind
of
correlates
with
our
observed
50th
percentile
speed,
which
came
up
at
38
miles
per
hour
and
our
85th
percentile
speed
was
45..
C
Reducing
the
speed
limit
from
50
to
40
will
make
it
less
than
a
10
mile
an
hour
we'll
put
the
speed
difference
between
on
Mustang
Road
to
north
and
south
of
Hefner
Road
within
10
miles
of
each
other.
Currently
there
are
20
miles
apart,
so
that
is
probably
something
that
was
missed
in
years
past,
but
this
will
address
that
situation.
I
mean
the
the
credible
speed
study.
C
That's
We
performed
using
the
Bella
light
method
suggested,
maybe
use
of
a
45
mile
an
hour
limit,
but
that
would
still
put
us
out
of
more
than
10
miles
an
hour
different
between
you
know
as
you
cross
Hefner
Road.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
on
the
application.
C
We
didn't
make
a
recommendation
that
in
fact
we
when
we
ran
the
Bella
light
methodology
on
it,
it
suggested
that
we,
you
could
consider
using
a
speed
limit
of
43.
Of
course,
it
was
developed
based
on
a
metric
system,
but
it
would
suggest
a
45
45
would
probably
be
appropriate
there,
but
changing
it
to
40
will
make
your
speed
differential
across
Hefner
Road
within
10
miles
an
hour
which
puts
you
more
in
line
with
state
law
and
the
one
thing
that
needs
to
be
considered.
C
There
is
because,
at
some
point
in
time,
say
if,
if
the
city
was
to
change
the
type
of
traffic
control
at
Hefner
and
Mustang
to
like
signalize
control,
if
you
were
to
be
continuing
straight
through
that
intersection
on
Mustang
Road,
you
have
a
20
mile,
an
hour
differential
in
front
of
you
it'd,
be.
This
will
put
it
more
in
line
with
state
law,
which
requires
the
speeds
to
be
stepped
down
and
increments.
No
greater
than
10
miles
an
hour.
C
Like
I
said
the
the
last
study
that
the
other
study,
the
the
most
recent
methodology-
that's
come
out,
talks
about
using
a
using
the
50th
observed,
50th
percentile
speed
as
being
more
appropriate
in
like
an
urbanized
setting
when
determining
speed
limits
and
our
observed
50th
percentile
speed
is
running
at
38
can,
which
is
kind
of
surprising,
considering
that
this
section
of
Mustang
Road
is
posted
at
50.
E
A
Okay,
any
talk
on
this
well
I'd,
just
like
to
throw
out
there
when
we
look
at
the
requirement
of
going
by
10
mile
per
hour,
increments
40
is
the
right
number
and
when
you
look
at
the
the
bell,
I,
like
you
know,
38
miles
per
hour,
is
to
50.
43
is
the
85,
which
is
real
close
to
42,
which
would
have
been
40.
F
F
I've
driven
this
road,
a
lot
and
I
feel
like
it's
a
lot
like
Hefner
Road,
where
I
live,
I
think
that
45
mile
an
hour
limit
is
more
consistent
on
what
it
feels
like
I'm
concerned:
they're,
going
from
50
to
40,
based
on
the
police
aspect
of
it
and
a
lot
more
tickets
being
written
because
I
know
what
the
study
said,
but
I've
also
driven
that
road
enough
to
know
that
the
psychology
of
driving
is
going
to
lend
somebody
to
go
a
lot
more.
Okay,.
A
G
A
F
A
A
I
I
have
a
note
on
the
on
the
sheet.
Sorry
ma'am,
yeah
she's
not
here
and
is
not
asking
for
it
to
be
pushed
on
and
wants
to
have
the
commission
vote
based
on
the
report.
Okay,
anybody
else
out
there
that
want
to
speak
on
item
5B,
okay
staff.
You
have
input.
C
All
right,
you
got
our
comments
before
you
when
we
reviewed
this
intersection
with
respect
to
the
the
nine
signal
warrants
in
the
manual
and
uniform
control
devices.
This
particular
location
does
not
satisfy
any
of
the
criteria.
There
aren't
any
decision,
site,
distance
conditions
or
any
any
other
mitigating
circumstances,
which
would
suggest
that
this
particular
intersection
requires
a
signalization
to
operate
safely.
C
One
thing
we
did
notice
when
we
were
doing
our
our
on-site
reviews
is
that
there's
a
driveway
private
driveway
on
the
north
side
of
119th
Street
office,
generally
opposite
Crystal
Gardens
place
and
that
driveway,
because
it
would
fall
within
the
limits
of
the
intersection,
would
also
require
a
separate
signal
and
because
it
is
a
two-way
driveway
and
this
and
lines
up
only
with
the
Northbound
or
the
outbound
Lane
on
crystal
Gardens
place.
That
phase
would
have
to
be
operated
separately.
So
it'd
be
an
odd.
C
It
would
make
for
an
odd
signal
Arrangement
and
the
only
other
alternative
that
that
driveway
would
have
to
be
run
basically
across
the
frontage
of
the
property,
where
it's
currently
located
and
tie
into
a
driveway.
That's
along
the
west
side,
which
is
about
100
feet
to
the
100
feet
to
the
West
other
than
that.
Those
are
pretty
much
major
comments
and,
like
I
said,
the
this
particular
intersection
does
not
meet
any
of
the
warrants
for
considering
use
of
signal
control.
A
G
I'm
just
curious
how
a
develop
a
residential
development
like
that
happens
if
the
driveway
already
exists
across
the
street
from
it
and
vice
versa.
How
does
something
like
that
get
missed
in
the
planning
phases
of
these
developments,
which
maybe
there's
not
an
answer
to
that?
But
it's
certainly
a
comment
that
I
want
to
make.
C
Well,
there's
nothing
that
prohibits
a
say.
The
addition
went
in
first
there's,
nothing
that
would
prohibit
someone
from
putting
a
driveway
in
opposite
a
street
like
this,
because
from
a
development
standpoint
it
does
not
affect
the
how
this
particular
intersection
is
controlled,
because
right
now,
Southwest
119th
Street
has
the
right-of-way.
C
But
a
lot
of
things
like
this
like
say:
the
addition
went
in
first
and
then
the
house
across
the
street
went
in
second
that
house
going
in
wouldn't
be
subject
to
any
kind
of
significant
reviews
by
public
works,
because
all
because
by
right,
if
the
only
access
they
have
is
to
the
arterial,
they
can
have
a
driveway
onto
it,
and
the
development
center
staff
would
just
review
that
would
just
review
it
as
a
building
permit
application
and
they
wouldn't
be
reviewing
it
with
respect
to
like.
Does
it?
Is
this
opposite
a
road?
A
A
I
Patrick
Duffy
address
is
501
Southwest
159th
Terrace
in
Oklahoma
City
same
day,
I
came
to
you
all
last
month,
I
appreciate
the
consideration
last
month.
I
know
this
part
was
was
postponed
to
this
month,
going
back
to
the
stop
signs
there
at
California
and
Dewey
knowing
and
looking
at
the
the
research
that
was
done
there.
We
know
that
the
traffic
that
moves
on
California
is
limited,
mainly
because
California
does
not
go
through
all
the
way
and
we've
redirected
traffic
to
go
around
the
school
in
a
clockwise
motion
there.
I
So
we
we've
tried
to
eliminate
as
much
of
that
traffic
going
on
California.
But
again
it's
the
intersection
is,
is
still
a
a
dangerous
intersection,
certainly
for
us,
Crossing
back
and
forth,
and
moving
students
back
and
forth
across
the
ground.
So
we'd,
like
your
consideration,
of
putting
stop
signs
there
and
for
the
time
until
the
stoplights
that
were
approved
last
month
are
able
to
go
in.
C
A
C
Your
input,
all
right
as
noted.
This
item
was
continued
from
the
last
meeting
at
the
request
of
commissioner
Littlefield.
The
location
does
not
meet
any
warrants
for
the
for
the
use,
specific
use
of
always
stop
control
and,
as
Mr
Duffy
had
mentioned,
the
intersection
was
approved
for
the
use
of
a
traffic
signal.
At
the
commission's
meeting
on
February
20th
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
of
the
questions
you
might
have
on
the
application.
A
A
A
We
just
put
a
20
15
mile,
an
hour
school
zone
there,
because
the
lights
are
only
activated
45
minutes
or
something,
but
the
flow
will
still
go
and
that'll
allow
the
crossing
guards
that
we're
getting
or
already
out
there.
One
of
them
is
already
out
there,
but
the
other
one
to
be
able
to
get
out
into
traffic
safer,
because
now
it's
a
15
mile
an
hour
instead
of
25.,
and
so
we
we
get
to
do
close
to
what
we
need
for
the
next
three
four
five
years
until
stop
lights
are
put
in.
J
One
of
the
one
of
the
issues
that
I
have
with
that
is
that
we
talk
a
lot
about
speed
limits,
don't
mean
a
dang
thing.
It
is
the
way
that
the
street
is
set
up
and
how
somebody
feels
comfortable
they're
used
to
25
mile
per
hour,
speed
limits
in
school
zones
and
so
having
a
15
mile
per
hour
would
take
somebody
out
of
their
normal.
How
they
approach
that
speed
limit.
J
I
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this.
Obviously
and
I
thought
a
lot
about
it
before
our
last
meeting
and
what
it
really
comes
down
to
for
me
is
what
is
the
value
that
this
body
brings
to
our
community
and
to
me
we
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
safety,
not
just
the
opportunity
to
provide
a
a
driving
condition,
that's
faster
and
somebody
taking
an
extra
10
seconds
out
of
their
day
to
get
from
one
place
to
another.
J
That's
ten
thousand
twelve
thousand
students
going
through
that
school
over
that
amount
of
time
that
will
not
have
the
capability
to
move
freely
from
one
side
of
the
street
to
the
other.
At
the
the
points
where
they
are
asked
to
do
that
safely,
I
I
know
that
I
mean
it's
going
to
take
all
five
of
us
voting
yes
on
this
today
to
actually
get
it
passed
because
we
don't
have
everybody
here
so
I'm
not
really
hopeful
in
that.
J
But
I
really
like
I,
think
that
we
have
the
ability
to
make
this
a
position
of
safety
for
our
community,
not
just
looking
at
the
benefit
to
our
drivers.
I
think
we
can
make
this
a
benefit
to
all
that
who
are
in
our
community,
especially
people
who
are
going
to
this
school
parents
and
children
and
the
drivers
that
interact
with
those
intersections
on
a
daily
basis.
J
I
understand
why
it
makes
people
uncomfortable
I
think
that,
knowing
that
it's
a
temporary
situation,
that
those
stop
signs
will
be
gone
as
soon
as
the
stoplights
get
put
in
I
am
fine.
With
that,
like
I,
am
final,
I
will
be
using
I
use
that
inner
side
I
use
both
of
those
intersections
multiple
times
every
day.
I
am
fine
stopping
there
as
long
as
it
means
that
somebody
can
be
safe
when
they
are
on
their
way
to
or
from
school.
B
Molly
hartburn
is
a
situation
where
we're
going
to
have
24
7
stop
during
rush
hour
coming
into
the
city
leaving
out
summer
I
mean
the
whole
I
mean
this
will
be
affecting
every
driver
that
goes
up
and
down
Walker
and
I.
Understand
and
I.
Don't
want
to
put
anybody's
safety
on
the
line
here,
but
what
I'm
getting
at
is
this
is
year
round
24
7.
I
do
like
the
idea
of
a
lowered
speed
limit
with
a
crosswalk
guard,
I
think
with
the
kids
involved.
B
A
I
I
I
So
you're
the
expectation,
you
don't
see
that
as
much
and
the
the
traffic
flows
much
faster
going
between
Reno
and
Sheridan
than
it
does
coming
down
east
and
west
on
Sheridan,
so
that
that
is
why
that
is
of
utmost
importance
to
us
is
to
find
a
way
to
help
on
that
traffic
on
California
and
Walker
and
and
if
I
can
I
will
say
that
we
are
starting
summer
school
this
year.
So
there
will
be
about
five
weeks
in
the
summer
that
there
will
be
kids
going
back
and
forth
again.
I
I
Yeah
so
we're
told
that
there
are
available
open
spaces
there
or
non-assigned
crossing
guards
that
we
could
have
specifically
assigned
there.
But
then
we
would
need
to
find
someone
that
would
either
apply
or
willing
to
go
in
and
take
that
on
and
and
have
that
job.
Okay,
but
that
hasn't
moved.
A
I
I
Corner
of
California
and
Walker,
it's
the
old
McAlpine
Center,
where
the
Arts
Council
was.
I
It's
Southeast
corner
off
of
the
the
South.
It's
off
the.
I
Of
the
elementary
school
so
we're
on
the
Southeast
corner
of
California
and
Walker.
F
F
F
I
I
I
crossed
it
just
before
this,
with
three
students
to
go
pick
up
Amazon
packages,
you
you
just
wait
until
the
lights
are
red
at
both
ends,
because
there
it
is
not
safe
for
us
to
cross
that,
because
it's
just
it's,
it's
not
evident
that
people
are
going
to
just
because
it's
marked
really
well.
It's
not
evident
that
people
are
going
to
try
to
cross
that
so
traffic
does
not
stop,
including
a
police
officer
that
just
kept
going.
So
it
won't
say.
I
We
were
standing
there
and
we
were
just
like
we're
just
hang
on
and
went
on
through
and
we
had.
We
were
not
going
to
put
our
feet
out
into
that
crosswalk
there
so
well.
A
A
Rule
where
I
always
thought
for
many
years,
I'm
standing
at
a
corner
at
a
crosswalk
people
would
be
expected
to
stop
yes
and
eventually
I
I,
asked
and
I.
Think
I
asked
here
one
of
my
first
years
and
they
said
no,
you
have
to
be
in
the
crosswalk
for
them
to
stop
and
that's
why
the
crossing
guard
gets
into
crosswalk
vast
signs,
making
it
very
clear,
there's
somebody
there
and
they
have
and
that
stops
the
traffic.
Yes,
not
technically
the
guard
right
that
they're
in
the
crosswalk
yeah,
so.
J
Can
we
at
a
minimum,
get
better
signage,
especially
at
this
intersection
for
crosswalks?
What
we
mentioned
like
the
the
big
yellow,
there's
a
school
crosswalk
right
here
like
Signs,
because
there's
no
signage
at
all.
There
are
obviously
crosswalks,
but
people
are
blazing
through
them.
So
can
we
get
some
signage
there
sooner
rather
than
later,
additional.
J
B
J
Just
put
some
in
Plaza
District
that
had
their
solar
powered,
flasher
pedestrian
crossing
signs,
so
I
think
that's
probably
what
you're
referring.
J
A
I
B
C
If
something
like
that
was
used,
it
would
have
to
be
powered
through
the
school
zone.
Flashers
right,
the
school
zone
flashers
rely
on
solar
power
because
we
don't
have
a
readily
available
underground
electric
source
to
run
to
operate
those
it
could
be
I,
don't
know,
I
I've,
never
seen
them
tied
together
like
that,
though,.
A
Walk
through
those
intersections
all
the
time,
it's
not
a
big
deal,
and
even
if
it's
just
like
we
did
with
the
stop
signs
that
was
down
downtown.
You
put
five
yellow
LEDs
and
a
solar
system,
and
it
goes
till
it
runs
out
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
There's
not
many
people
walking
if
it
runs
out.
It
runs
out,
but
some
something
like
that.
If
you
guys
could
think
about
that
now,.
I
I
One
we
we
would
let
anything
that
would
make
that
more
noticeable.
We
would
love
that
I
know
that
this
is
a
big
ass
to
try
to
stop
traffic
and
I
know
that
it's
year-round
and
we
would
love
that,
but
anything
that
would
bring
some
kind
of
of
notice
to
that.
The
the
concern
will
then
be.
Obviously
we
don't
just
cross
the
road
and
the
morning
and
afternoon,
but
that
is
where
the
majority
of
our
traffic
is
so
it
would
protect
the
majority
of
the
flow
of
traffic
back
and
forth.
So
yes,
it
would.
J
A
J
H
J
J
A
Well,
that's
where
I
say
that
it's
it's
the
council
person
that
if,
if
there's
an
issue
that
a
traffic
commissioner
feels
or
an
applicant
you
get
with
the
traffic
with
the
city
council
person,
who
then
has
to
either
try
to
motivate
the
staff
on
their
own
or
get
the
consensus
of
the
counselors
to
go
ahead
and
motivate
the
staff
or
to
direct
the
staff.
And,
of
course
it's
all
Ward
specific.
So
one
Ward
will
say
me
and
the
other
seven
will
go
me
me
yeah
well,.
J
Maybe
JB
can
reach
out
to
her,
but
I
think
we
can't
I
mean
we
can
have
a
conversation,
because
there
are
different
unfunded
projects
and
all
of
our
awards
at
this.
B
A
That
well
because
the
staff
they
they
have
the
list
and
they
put
in
their
their
bond
request
and
it
gets
put
into
the
bond
and
it
gets
funded.
But
as
the
staff
has
the
does,
the
staff
have
the
authority
to
reallocate
funds
that
have
been
already
put
out.
I
mean
well,
or
does
it
take
the
city
council
to
tell
them
to
reallocate.
J
A
A
G
If
the
post
to
the
speed
limit
is
what
they
are
now
25,
so
you
mentioned
that
you'd
done
some
research
and
that
we
could
go
lower.
We
could
go
to
15.,
yes,
staff
said
we
could
would
that,
would
that
include
a
flashing
school
zone
Beacon
which
there
is
one
there
now
there
is.
A
One
there
that
says,
25
and
all
that
does
from
my
understanding
is:
is
it
identified
to
the
driver
when
there's
a
school
zone
and
two
that's
when
fines
double
I
believe
am
I
right?
Well,.
C
There's
a
there's
a
higher
speed
for
or
higher
fine
for,
speeding
within
a
school
zone,
but
in
this
particular
case,
Walker's
posted
30
miles
an
hour
and
when
those
when
the
school
zone
flashers
are
activated,
they
just
draw
drivers
attention
to
the
fact
that
you
know
it
reads:
school
zone
speed,
limit
25
when
flashing
so.
G
Didn't
study
it
I,
didn't
study
it
in
depth
to
see
that
I,
just
I,
think
I
know
a
flashing
school
zone
sign
and
a
a
crossing
guard
are
the
two
things
that
I
as
a
driver
going
through
a
school
zone
I'm
going
to
see
before
I'm
ever
going
to
pay
attention
to
a
stop
sign.
You
know
the
item
is
asking
for
a
stop
sign
and
I.
G
I
know
that
I
said
it
last
month,
I'll
say
it
again:
I'm
really
concerned
that
there's
that
that
would
produce
a
false
sense
of
security
for
anybody
walking
into
that
crosswalk
I
really
like
the
way
their
discussion
is
going
with
lowering
the
speed
limit
and
I
really
like
where
their
discussion
is
going
with
school
school
zone.
Specific
crosswalk
signage
would
be
something
that
I
as
a
driver,
would
notice
long
before
I
would
notice
something
else
and
I
and
thank
you,
I'm
Stuart,
for
looking
into
those
two
questions.
That's
that
was
interesting.
G
You
know
my
Hope
was
a
crossing
guard.
Could
have
the
authority
to
be
in
control
of
you
know,
managing
a
pylon
sign
with
four
stop
signs
on
it
in
the
middle
of
the
street.
You
know
that
would
have
been
wonderful
if
something
like
that
could
have
happened,
but
you
know
I,
don't
what
would
it
take
to
change
this
item
to
lowering
the
speed
limit
and
I
guess
the
crosswalk
science
would
just
strictly
be
administrative.
C
A
So
we
would
vote
on
this
item
and
if
we
wanted
to
consider
a
15
mile
an
hour,
speed
limit,
then
we
would
ask
the
staff
and
ask
the
at
the
applicant
to
go
ahead
and
put
in
for
it.
Is
that
something
you
think
would
help
slow
everybody
down.
Another
10
miles
an
hour.
A
Yes,
well
and-
and
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
is,
if,
if
we
say,
here's
a
school
zone
that
we're
going
to
bring
to
15
miles
an
hour,
the
other
100
school
zones
are
going
to
want
15
miles
an
hour
also,
but
the
answer
is
they're
not
in
the
urban
center.
Like
this,
that's
the
end,
but
I
mean
we
just
have
to
know
the
answer,
because
the
question
is
going
to
come.
A
J
And
Stuart,
were
you
working
with.
A
J
A
G
I
If
we
could
get
an
applicant,
then
yes,
that's
that's.
What
we
would
need
is
is
an
applicant
because
I
think
there's
said
they
were
unassigned.
So
if
we
can
get
an
applicant
then
we
could
have
them
assigned
to
that
area.
So.
B
Yeah,
so
just
to
make
sure
just
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
that
if
we
do
turn
down
the
applicant's
request
that
administratively
we
can
get
pedestrian
signs
up
and
in
conjunction
with
that,
we
would
have
a
crossing
guard
and
it
so
I
mean
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
that
if
we
do
turn
this
down,
that
we
will
still
be
able
to
do
something
for
you.
That'd
be
wonderful.
B
A
C
C
A
A
C
I
Right
now
it
was
we
just
came
back
today:
I
don't
know
she
had
not
been
trained,
so
wasn't
feeling
comfortable
at
going
out
and
stopping
traffic
before
spring
break
on
Sheridan.
So
I
have
not
seen
Miss
Stevenson
today
to
ask
her
about
her
training
and.
C
I
Yeah,
so
that's
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
with
that
right
before
spring
break.
A
Okay,
but
the
signage
that
we're
talking
about
would
go
at
both
intersections
yeah,
okay
and
then
okay,
any
other
talk
on
this
item.
Yes,
counselor.
Please
help
I.
E
Just
wanted
to
clarify
majority
versus
Quorum
correct,
so
we
we
do
have
a
quorum
here
today,
and
this
particular
motion
requires
a
majority
boat.
So
for
purpose
of
the
majority,
it's
only
going
to
be
of
the
members
present.
Okay,
that.
A
E
Correct
correct,
so
we
have
a
quorum
so
for
purposes
of
today's
meaning
majority.
A
A
H
A
Okay,
now
we
go
on
to
5D
Caleb
Morgan
PE
Johnson
and
Associates
Reserve
parking
space
for
the
fiscally
disabled
on
the
east
side
of
North
Charlotte
Avenue
from
approximately
58
feet,
South
to
90
feet
south
of
the
South
curved
line
of
Northwest
11th
Street.
So
if
I
could
have
your
name
and
address,
you
have
up.
D
To
five
minutes:
Caleb
Morgan
Johnson
Associates,
one
East
Sheridan.
What
we
have
is
a
Redevelopment
of
a
site
that
is
an
existing
parking
lot
and
they're,
proposing
Town
Home
Apartments
at
the
location,
and
there
is
proposed
parallel
parking
on
the
east
side
of
Shartel,
and
that's
part
of
that
we
want
to
include
one
Ada
spot
and
that's
what
we're
looking
for
approval
here
today
is
just
for
the
Ada
spot.
We
appreciate
status.
Review
of
this
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
C
Got
our
comments
before
you
in
this
particular
location?
There
is
already
an
angle
parking
layby
on
the
west
side
of
chartel
they're,
proposing
to
build
parallel
parking
lay-bys
along
the
east
side
and
as
part
of
their
structured
parking
there,
including
an
ADA
space
which
would
be
in
accordance
with
requirements
under
the
Americans
with
Disability
Act.
So
action
on
the
item
will
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
commission.
A
D
Think
they're
going
to
have
individual
entrances.
If
you
look
at
the
site,
it
shows
sidewalks
going
up
showing
individual
entrances
for
different
doors.
H
K
A
A
K
I
called
the
dispatch
today
to
just
get
like
an
update
of
the
crashes.
They
had
said
between
July
and
September
that
there
were
13
crashes
at
that
intersection
and
then
today
the
information
that
I
got
was
that
10
12
of
22
there
was
a
non-injury
accident,
11
21
of
22.
There
was
an
injury
accident
and
then
all
in
the
month
of
February
on
the
10th,
the
9th
10th
and
18th,
there
were
injury
accidents
at
that
intersection.
K
A
K
A
Thank
you,
ma'am.
Anybody
else
wanted
to
speak
on
item
5e,
Staffing
input.
C
C
When
we
did
a
our
records
were
the
records
we
have
access
to
only
go
back
through
2021
and
in
the
period
from
98
through
2021
2021
is
the
only
year
and
it's
the
first
year
in
which
the
crash
experience
would
suggest
that
looking
at
something
other
than
just
two-way,
stop
control
would
be
appropriate
and
Mr
Braddock
has
done
additional
research
with
the
help
of
the
police
department
and
has
got
more
current
crash
information
than
we
had
available
for
the
rec
for
this
meeting,
which
would
suggest
that
the
crash
experience
is
such
that
use,
considering
something
like
always
stop.
A
Well,
I
just
have
a
question:
what
makes
that
intersection
so
bad
that
there's
16
accidents
in
a
year
I
mean
it
doesn't
look
any
different
than
anything
else.
I
mean.
Is
there
anything
that
let
me
ask
the
staff
first,
do
you
have
any
when
you
guys
are
out
there
and
I
mean
it?
Doesn't?
Look
that
bad
that
there
would
be
that
many
accidents?
It
has
good
sight,
distance.
C
Yes,
it's
got
adequate
sight
distance,
you
know
the
remarkable
thing
is:
you
can
have
intersections
where
you've
got
less
than
adequate
site
distance
and
you
might
have
a
perfect
crash.
History,
I
mean
no
instances
of
crashes
and
then
you
can
get
intersections
which
are
like
this,
and
you
wouldn't
think
that
there
should
be
any
reason
why
they
experience
an
unusual
crash
history.
But
there.
K
A
A
That's
my
fault
here.
It
is.
There
you
go.
Okay
item
is
approved.
Thank
you.
Ma'am,
okay,
go
to
item
5f
Timothy
W,
Johnson,
PE,
President,
Johnson
associate
I,
consider
Reserve
parking
space
for
the
physically
disabled
on
the
west
side
of
North
Walnut
Avenue
from
approximately
51
feet,
North
to
75
feet
north
of
the
north
curb
line
of
Northeast
26th
Street.
Yes,
sir,
we
already
have
your
name
and
address.
You
got
five
minutes.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
a
small
pocket,
Home
Development,
so
single
family
homes
inside
an
addition,
a
small
addition
kind
of
a
fill
in
and
we're
proposing
parallel
parking
on
the
west
side
of
Walnut
Avenue,
and
it's
part
of
that.
We're
proposing
a
single
Ada,
parallel
parking
space
and
that's
what
we're
looking
to
get
approval
for.
We
appreciate
staff
working
with
us
on
getting
everything
located
correctly
and
I'd.
A
J
A
A
Item
seven
reports
and
other
items
from
traffic
Commissioners
and
traffic
commission
committees,
so
we'll
start
with
commissioner
Varnell.
None
for
me
thanks.
Commission.
J
So
I
have
been
working
with
Stuart
for
I.
Don't
know
it
feels
like
six
months
on
a
few
intersections
as
far
as
lighting
goes,
and
so
I
just
want
to
I
guess
bring
that
here.
J
Some
traffic
signals
have
been
there
with
a
consultant
right
now
for
and
I
think.
Their
proposal
was
due
at
the
end
of
January,
so
I
just
was
going
to
request
a
follow-up
from
you
on
from
Public
Works,
just
in
general,
on
where
we
are
in
the
process
and
when
we
can
look
for
some
relief
there,
because
we've
gotten
some
pretty.
J
Great
great
okay,
other
than
that.
Thank
you
all
for
our
conversation
earlier
and
just
working
on
the
best
possible
solution
with
the
within
the
framework
that
we
have,
but
I
do.
J
It
may
be
10
15
years
before
you
get
this,
and
so,
if
we
at
least
put
some
bugs
in
some
ears,
maybe
we
can
get
a
little
bit
of
movement
a
little
bit
of
traction
on
moving
some
of
those
projects
into
a
current
calendar
year
versus
punting
it
for
the
next
geobond.
A
J
A
A
You
know
yes
main
road
side,
road,
activates
or
turn
signal
turn
lane,
but
then
it's
supposed
to
turn
off
and
it's
not
supposed
to
come
on
when
there's
nobody
there
and
all
those
kind
of
things
and
there's
been
several
times,
I've
shot
a
note
to
him
and
he
sends
his
people
out
there
and
they
readjust
it.
Because
you
know
you
don't
want
to
have
traffic
backed
up
for
half
a
mile
because
of
of
a
light
that
just
the
sensor
is
wrong.
A
So
as
you're
talking
to
people
out
there
as
you're,
where
I
get
a
couple
of
them,
is
on
group
Facebook
pages
for
neighborhoods,
somebody
will
just
say:
geez
I,
don't
understand
why
this
is
like
this
and
I'd
be
like.
Oh,
so
what's
the
problem
and
okay
now,
let's
do
it
no
and
then
it
gets
fixed.
They
don't
even
know
know
that
it's
wrong
or
how
to
fix
it.
We
do
so,
as
you
talk
in
to
your
people
out
there.
A
It's
a
good
thing
to
say
if
you
see
something
that
just
isn't
right,
like
you're
talking
about
flowing
lights,
you
know
in
the
morning
you
should
be
flowing
them
into
the
city
in
the
afternoon,
getting
people
out
of
here
and,
and
it
should
all
be
timed
and
it
changes
and
and
that's
good
stuff
and
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
especially
as
we
know,
traffic
is
only
going
up
not
going
down,
even
though
we're
trying
with
bikes
and
we're
trying
with
trolleys
and
all
these
things,
you
know
yeah.
B
C
B
B
Is
this
something
that
the
city
can
live
with,
because
I've
got
a
couple
of
neighborhoods
that
are
really
interested
in
participating,
but
they
don't
want
to
blow
money
on
something:
that's
not
going
to
work
the
they
would
really
like
feedback
as
to
what
is
the
most
of
the
applicants,
which
ones
have
been
the
most
effective,
whether
it
be
speed
bumps.
You
know,
driver
feedback
shrinking
the
size
of
the
lane
by
paint
I
mean
they're,
just
very
curious
as
far
as
what's
out
there
and
what's
working
right
well,.
C
I
was
about
to
say:
there's
there
are
a
couple
locations
where
people
can
go
and
basically
try
it
before
they
buy
it.
I
mean
the
city
of
the
village
has
got
a
couple
streets
where
they've
got
speed.
Humps
and
they've
got
one
location
where
they've
got
a
speed,
hump
and
a
driver.
Speed
feedback
sign
right
beside
it,
so
some
residents,
if
they're
wanting
to
they
could
they
could
see
what
they
think
of
them.
C
C
C
Time
we
don't,
we
don't
conduct
any
studies
in
advance,
I
mean
a
neighborhood
if
they,
if
they've
got
a
perceived
like
speeding
problem
or
issue
along
that
line,
they
could
just
apply
to
to
participate
in
the
program.
There's
no
there's
nothing
in
the
program
says
that
you
need
to
have
you
know
a
verified
like
85th,
percentile
speed,
that's
running
10
miles
no
an
hour
over
the
limit.
A
Is
there
any
data
to
say
in
between
the
speed
hubs,
because
we
know
over
the
speed,
hump
it'll
slow
it
down,
but
then
you
got
two
300
400
feet
in
between
now
they're
doing
40
miles
an
hour
trying
to
catch
up
their
time
for
going
slow
or
does
slowing
them
down
to
15
miles
an
hour
to
go
over
a
speed,
hump,
so
slow
them
down
for
that
next
amount.
That's
what
you're
asking
correct.
B
Basically,
what
I
would
do
I
mean
whether
it
be
ASAP
program,
whatever
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
do
follow-ups
six
months
later,
if
we
prove
something
send
an
email
to
whoever
request
did
this
achieve
what
you
were
asking
I
mean
you
just
I
mean
to
me
to
be
helpful
to
know.
If
somebody
comes
up
and
says
hey
on
the
street,
we've
had
17
collisions.
B
A
H
G
It's
going
to
be
the
people
that
live
there
and
I'm
as
fascinated
with
it.
Of
course,
as
you
are
multiply,
the
answer
is
yeah
yeah.
B
But
equally
important,
if
the
answer
comes
back
no,
we
need
to
know
that
those
things
don't
work
for
that
reason
for
that.
Well,
for
that,
for
that
location
it
may
work
somewhere
else
if,
if
it's
not
working
there,
I'd
like
to
know
why
you
know
so,
I
would
like
some
type
of
feedback
from
the
applicant.
G
Well
and
that
that
segues
into
the
the
comments
that
we've
had
over
the
the
years
that
often
it
takes
more
than
one
measure
to
be
effective,
you
know-
maybe
it's
not
the
fault
of
the
measure.
Maybe
it's
another
major
something
different
should
be
considered
by
that
neighborhood
or
you
know,
perhaps
as
simple
as
painting
or
planting
trees
or
something.
So
it's
going
to
be
interesting
to
see
how
this
moves
forward.
It.
C
Well
and
that's
an
interesting
thing
that
you
bring
up
because
one
of
our
one
of
the
first
locations
that
we
have,
which
is
most
like,
which
is
likely
to
get
funded
in
the
near
term,
is,
is
on
a
one
block
stretch
stretch
of
Northwest
36th
street
at
one
end
of
the
block.
They've
got
like
what
we'd
consider
almost
like
a
center
median,
not
like
a
mini
roundabout,
it's
more
elongated
and,
at
the
other
end
of
the
block,
there's
always
stop
control
and
they're
seeking
a
speed
hump
in
the
middle
of
the
block.
C
H
Oh
just
real,
quick
I
know,
commissioner:
Littlefield
have
brought
forward
a
extra
Patrol
request
from
someone
for
Northwest
63rd
in
May.
The
motors
officers
went
out
there,
they
didn't
see
a
bunch
of
infractions,
they
spent
a
total
of
seven
hours
out
there.
They
only
saw
two
people
not
stop
for
the
red
light.
They
did
Issue
citations,
but
you
know
it
may
just
be
the
timing
of
it,
but.