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From YouTube: Planning Commission Meeting - April 23, 2020
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The regular meeting, via video conference, of the Oklahoma City Planning Commision for April 23, 2020.
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We
had
three
items
today:
the
first
one:
oh
six:
five,
seven,
an
application
of
rezone
3701
northwest
one
92nd
Street
from
PV
1686
to
r1.
The
second
is
C
71-57;
the
final
plan
of
Ian
arbor
village
located
north
south
or
north
west
23rd,
Street
and
west
of
north
and
hardware
Avenue,
and
the
third
item
is
C
7158.
The
final
plat
of
deer
Brook
station
section,
3
located
south
of
Northwest
150th,
Street
and
east
of
North
Rockville
Avenue.
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Yes,
this
is
a
specific
plan
like
Jeff
said
for
15:39.
This
is
a
location
of
the
old
Brookside
golf
course
at
89th
and
shields
that
was
purchased
by
the
Archdiocese
of
Oklahoma
and
Reese
owned
back
in
August
of
2014
for
a
campus
for
the
archdiocese.
This
represents
the
first,
the
specific
plan
for
that
project.
Staff
reviewed
it
and
found
it
consistent
with
the
PD,
the
architect
for
the
project.
Jc
Witcher
is
on
the
line.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
him,.
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Location
represents
a
spud
for
a
dog
daycare
center
at
the
quill
North
development
staff,
reviewed
and
recommended
approval
subject
to
to
tes
three
Stevie's.
Excuse
me:
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
first
two
and
would
like
to
amend
te
three
by
establishing
hours
of
operation
that
will
not
be
left
outside
any
later
than
9:00
p.m.
and
staff
is
okay.
With
that
amendment,
David
boxes,
the
Africa
and
he's
on
the
line
JJ.
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Madam
chair
I've
just
note
this
item
being
in
Ward,
8
I
spoke
to
the
applicant
about
this
today
and
understand
the
language
around
the
proposed
TV
number
three,
which
I
don't
know
any
disagreement
with
I
did
we
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
conditional
use
unit
of
outdoor
displays
and
sales
as
it
relates
to
some
of
the
uses.
We
also
talked
about
eliminating
some
of
the
uses.
H
You
guys
may
not
recall
this.
We've
had
a
number
of
cases
come
through
in
this
area.
Recently,
just
to
refresh
recollections
of
the
commissioners,
there
was
a
scooters
coffee
location
and
in
an
elementary
school
that
came
through
on
two
different
occasions
in
an
effort
to
try
to
you,
know,
combat
and
control
some
traffic
development,
even
though
it's
unlikely
I
asked
the
applicant
to
strike
the
eating
establishment
use
units
which
creates
a
lot
of
coming
and
going
traffic
again.
This
is
inside
the
development.
H
It's
not
along
the
frontage,
so
I
don't
think
it's
highly
likely
to
you
know
sort
of
become
one
of
those
uses,
but
it's
just
a
protection
because
of
the
amount
of
traffic
creation.
That's
being
generated
here,
I'd
be
curious
to
know
staffs,
take
on
the
outdoor
sales
and
storage
and
unless
the
applicant
wants
to
reference
any
disagreement
to
the
use
units
I
can
specify
those
for
the
record.
But,
as
we
discussed,
those
are
my
only
questions
at
this
point.
Well,.
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I
also
just
point
out
before
I
make
the
motion.
There
was
some
discussion
in
the
staff
report
about
a
landscape
buffer
to
the
south
and
the
east
side
talk
to
that
with
the
applicant.
The
residential
portion
there's
some
residential
homes
that
are
affiliated
with
the
Senior
Living
Center
to
the
east,
and
that
is
a
we
measured
it
it's
over
400
feet
from
the
backside
of
this
property,
so
I
didn't
think
adding
anything
there
to
the
east
side
was
really
necessary.
H
It's
also
not
something
they
own,
there's
a
parcel
to
east
and
it
can
be
developed
later.
So
it'd
really
be
kind
of
a
moot
point.
So
anyway,
with
that,
if
there's
no
more
discussion
by
the
commissioners,
I
will
make
a
motion
to
recommend
approval.
The
City
Council
on
s,
PUD,
1211,
subject
to
technical
evaluations,
1
&
2
and
adding
technical
evaluation
number
3,
which
shall
say
if
the
property
immediately
adjacent
to
the
subject
site
is
developed.
Residential
II
dogs
will
be
required
to
be
brought
in
by
9:00
p.m.
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This
is
an
application
for
multifamily
project
at
160.
Fourth,
in
Pennsylvania
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
two
TVs
woman.
The
applicant
would
like
to
amend
to
40%
open
space
and
agreed
to
show
the
open
space
and
type
of
amenities
to
provided
prior
to
the
application
getting
to
council,
and
the
applicant
agrees
with
te
number
two,
as
it
relates
to
Northwest
164
as
they
have
no
access
to
Pennsylvania
David
box
is
the
applicant.
H
I'll
jump
into
mind
gives
moving
here
JJ
on
the
no
access
that
seems
to
make
sense
to
me,
since
they
don't
have
access
Pennsylvania
to
not
require
the
sidewalk.
So
are
you
guys
trying
agreement
with
the
alteration
of
that
te?
Yes,
okay,
and
he
also
indicated
to
me
when
we
spoke
about
this
item,
that
they
would
provide
pedestrian
access
back
up
to
160.
Fourth,
are
you
comfortable
that
that's
required
by
the
languages
presented?
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H
Like
to
we
visited
about
that,
a
little
bit,
I
asked
him
in
our
discussion
about
this
item.
If
you
know
staffs
primary
concern,
it
was
a
little
rhetorical
was
just
concerned
that
they
would
basically
be
providing
this
smattering
of
worthless
open
space
instead
of
an
actual
open
space
amenity
for
the
people
at
the
complex
which
age
10
he
agreed
to
do.
We
need
to
memorialize
this
in
the
PUD
in
some
way,
for
the
specific
plan
phase
to
be
able
to
specifically
review
this
to
open
space
requirement
to
make
sure
staff
gets
what
they
want.
There.
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H
We
so
on
the
open
space
you
guys
want
to
come
back
and
tell
us
what
you
want
to
do
with
it.
We
need
to
be
able
to
review
and
approve
that,
if
that's
gonna
be
the
case,
so
we
need
to
put
in
some
language,
therefore,
being
able
to
review
and
approve
the
open
space
provided
its
specific
plans
for
that
stage.
Yeah.
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Only
other
thing
that
he
and
I
talked
about
on
this
application
was
the
amendment
to
the
architectural
requirements
which
we
talked
about,
which
was
basically
an
agreement
to
flip-flop,
so
amending
the
architectural
requirement
to
be
60%,
brick,
veneer,
rock
or
stone
masonry,
and
then
40
percent
of
other
materials,
striking
efis
from
that
list,
which
they
were
in
agreement
with.
Yes,.
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M
This
is
Tim
Johnson
and
Mike.
Kanak
is
also
on
the
call
so
the
purpose
of
this,
and
we
actually
started
at
about
a
year
ago,
working
with
the
staff
to
keep
the
boathouse
district
from
having
to
go
before
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
Every
time
there
was
an
event
or
change
in
signage
by
the
different
event
sponsors
they
set
up,
booths,
I,
set
up
signs
and
banners
and
flags,
and
all
of
which
were
not
in
compliance
with
the
Scenic
River
overlay,
and
so,
as
we
began
to
review
this
with
the
staff
and
with
the
attorney's
office.
M
So
with
that
information,
it
was
difficult
to
produce
a
master
plan
that
could
be
presented
because
of
the
public
use
requirements.
We
didn't
want
the
wrong
impression
to
be
given
to
those
people
who
had
previously
owned
the
land,
and
so
we
held
back
some
information
on
that
and
I've
moved
forward
with
the
signage
aspects.
We
worked
very
closely
with
Scenic
River
overlay
design
district
committee.
M
Matching
the
requirements
of
the
DTD
with
regard
to
building
size,
make
adjustments
to
buildings
that
were
closer
to
the
river
versus
over
a
hundred
feet
away
from
the
river,
and
then
we've
made
agreements
to
come
back
with
anything.
That's
major
with
regard
to
the
final
signage
and
those
are
defined
and
broken
out
in
the
document
as
you've
read
it,
and
so
with
that
they
agreed
and
approved.
The
document
you
have
before
you
and
myself
or
Mike
would
be
happy
answering
or
any
additional
questions
you
might
have.
So.
K
K
Zoning
ordinance
for
for
this
overlay
that
allows
for
flexibility
so
that
the
citizens
of
Oklahoma
City
aren't
pain
for
the
city
to
go
through
the
reprove
oppresses
every
time
we
want
to
hold
a
new
event.
What
would
that
be?
I,
don't
even
know
if
that
was
clearer,
but
is
that
kind
of
correct
understanding
to
some
degree
yeah.
M
That's
partially
correct
I
think,
additionally,
that
the
district
also
required
a
minimum
of
two
stories
of
which,
as
you
know,
the
building
heights
down.
There
are
more
than
two
stories,
but
the
actual
number
of
floors
in
the
building
on
some
of
them
are
just
one,
and
so
there
were
those
kinds
of
restrictions
that
we
were
bumping
up
against
and
I
can
let
Mike
address
anything
further
on
that.
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We
were
going
to
have
had
Olympic
Trials,
but
for
kovat
19
and
as
well
as
an
international
event
coming
in
August
and
with
those
come
a
lot
of
signage
requirements,
and
we
certainly
want
to
promote
the
fact
that
we
have
these
very,
very
high-profile
events,
one
of
which
was
going
to
be
internationally
televised.
So
we
felt
like
it
was.
It
was
important
to
to
take
care
of
that.
You
know.
We've
been
wanting
to
take
care
of
this
for
some
time.
R
Also
we're
trying
to
again
make
the
district
desirable
for
additional
development
to
create
some
momentum
year
round
momentum
and
to
draw
people
into
the
district.
It's
there's
very
little
sign
and
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
about
how
to
actually
get
to
the
venue
for
those
who
have
never
been
there
and
so
needing
some
additional
signage
is
any
major
you
know
is.
This
has
really
become
a
a
destination
for
Oklahoma
City
and
we
have
very
little
signage.
R
So
we
want
to
to
be
able
to
address
that
we're
also
bringing
in
we
hope
our
first
outside
development,
which
would
be
the
bark
a
dog
park
and,
and
certainly
they're
going
to
for
them
to
follow
through
in
their
their
plan.
They're
going
to
expect
to
be
able
to
have
better
signage
that
directs
people
and.
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H
One
thing
too
just
stood
out
to
me
on
the
uses
prohibited
gasoline
sales,
small
is
listed,
but
gasoline
sales
large
is
not
I
thought
that
was
weird
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
an
oversight
or
intentional.
Or
what
and
the
other
thing
the
real
question
I
have
is
there's
a
couple
places
in
the
application
that
talked
about
the
review
in
your
MDS.
H
So,
for
example,
under
signage
regulations,
it
says
the
final
locations
in
design
shall
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
front
design
committee
well
further
down
on
her
nine
point,
ten
point:
two,
it
says
an
undetermined
number
of
freestanding
signs
less
than
fifteen
feet
in
height,
shall
be
permitted
and
reviewed
by
an
administrative
approval
process
by
the
city
of
Oklahoma
City
urban
design
staff.
Are
these
typical
forms
of
review
for
things
like
this
and
if,
if
not,
what
is
the
reason
for
for
putting
those
items
in
the
PUD
I?
M
The
I
think
the
simple
answer
is,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
is
the
there
are
two
major
signs
that
are
proposed
and
those
are
held
out
and
described
differently,
and
those
are
the
ones
that
would
come
back
to
the
Scenic
River
overlay
for
their
review.
All
the
rest
of
the
signs
would
be
submitted
to
staff
for
their
review
and
approval,
and
that's
how
it
is
today
the
question
with
regard
to
the
gasoline
sales:
large:
it's
not
permitted
and
the
current
DTD.
Now
that's
why
we
did
okay.
H
Got
it
yeah
that
makes
sense
that
DTD
to
thing
is
a
little
confusing,
so
I
figured
there
was
something
there.
I
was
missing
under
student.
Oh
that's
what
it
was
thanks
for
clarifying
that
JJ
or
Jeff
Butler.
Can
one
of
you
guys
mind
weighing
in
on
these
staff-level
or
committee
level,
reviews
of
signage
and
approval.
F
The
staff
level
approvals
are
pretty
typical.
We
try
and
set
a
threshold,
for
that
is
for
things,
their
staff
approvals,
just
as
the
amount
of
time
and
expense
that
it
takes
for
developers
and
that
this
threshold
was
chosen
for
this
particular
and
for
this
particular
case
and
in
the
the
committee
felt
like
it
was
appropriate,
and
you
know
that's
it's
pretty
standard
for
us
to
do.
We
do
a
lot
of
administrative
approvals.
F
H
Okay,
I
appreciate
it.
Obviously
this
is
you
know
something
that
we
all
want
to
see,
succeed
and
Mike
like
a
lot
of
people,
small
businesses
and
others
that
have
been
affected
by
this
I'm.
Sure,
sorry,
about
the
level
of
impact
that
you
know,
River
sports
area
is
seen
as
a
result
of
co19
and
I
know
that
must
be
very
disappointing
to
you
and
I'm.
Sorry
to
hear
all
that
I.
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L
This
is
a
straight
zoning
application
from
r12
I,
two
staffs
review.
We
found
that
there
are
still
a
couple
of
homes
existing
on
62nd
Street,
and
the
surrounding
zoning
is
still
our
one
there's
a
significant
amount
of
our
one
around.
So
we
recommended
an
amendment
to
I
one
which
would
keep
everything
indoors.
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I
I
guess
the
question
is
more
whether
he
would
allow
you
to.
This
is
Janice
powers.
I
am
the
Commissioner
for
Ward,
2
and
I
was
wondering
whether
you
had
had
any
contact
at
all
with
the
association
of
property
owners
there
and
in
the
area
that
is
between
Broadway
extension
in
the
railroad
north
of
the
highway
and
south
and
63rd
Street.
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S
In
that
entire
eight,
roughly
eighty
four
acres
you're
talking
about
Commissioner
powers,
there
are
only
there
are
only
two
or
three
houses.
One
of
them
is
abandoned
and
falling
down.
If
it
hadn't
already
been
torn
down,
one
of
them
is
being
used
for
storage
and
then
the
one
right
actually
right
across
the
street
kind
of
caddy
cornered
from
our
property
is
the
only
occupied
house
at
this
time,
and
Tad
has
actually
been
watching
over
this
property
for
us
since
we
purchased
it
back
in
the
early
2000s.
S
A
You're
right
there
there
is
nothing
about
this
area
that
would
suggest
that
it
is
going
to
be
residentially
developed,
you're,
not
I.
Don't
think
that
was
ever.
The
intention
of
the
of
the
Association
Neighborhood
Association
may
have
just
been
an
easy
way
to
describe
the
organization,
but
did
you
participate
in
that
process?
It's
time
that
they
were
doing
the
plan
for
the
area
and
so
on?
A
S
A
You
want
you
and
other
commissioners
would
like
to
see
that
that
would
be
fine
I'm
fairly
familiar
with
this
area,
and
it
is
true
that
a
lot
of
the
zoning,
if
there
is
industrial,
this
area
is
clearly
something
you
know
an
area.
That's
in
transition.
It's
been
a
pretty
slow
transition,
just
like
it
has
been
for
the
area
in
north
of
63rd
Street.
A
But
you
know
at
the
time
of
the
adoption
of
plan
okay,
see
when
this
area
was
identified
as
a
transportation
node,
if
you
will
or
a
transportation
oriented
overlay
I
think
at
layer,
I
guess
is
what
they
call
it
and
I
think
that
they,
the
thought
was
that
the
future
of
this
area
would
be
something
other
than
the
hard
industrial.
That
seems
to
be.
A
You
know
mixed
in
with
the
residential
uses
throughout
those
84
or,
if
that's
what
you
said,
acres
and
I
myself,
I'll
just
tell
you
straight
up,
cannot
support
a
straight
eye
to
zoning
on
his
property,
even
a
straight
eye.
One
would
be
hard
for
me.
I
would
really
like
to
see
this
property
developed
through
a
PD
or
SPD
and
I
I
know
that
that
is
difficult
to
do.
If
your
purpose
in
rezoning,
it
is
purely
you
know,
special
ative
or
for
investment
purposes,
there's
absolutely
nothing
wrong
with
that.
S
Believe
that
that,
if
you
wanted
to
continue
this
item-
and
let
us
get
with
you
to
work
through
some
issues,
Roger
would
like
to
use
this.
This
particular
piece
of
land
to
build
offices
for
his
construction
company
and
a
cabinet
shop.
The
whole
reason
why
I
seemed
to
fit
because
of
the
surrounding
I
was
if
he
ever
got
a
job.
S
He
does
home
construction
and
home
remodels,
but
if
you
ever
got
a
big
job
and
needed
to
to
be
assembling
pieces
of
cabinets
before
they
are
moved
on-site,
I
too
would
allow
him
to
work
out
in
the
parking
lot
or
the
yard.
If
you
will,
as
opposed
to
I
won,
but
I
mean
we,
we
could
do
I
won
or
we
could
continue
it
and
and
work
through
some
issues.
I
mean
I,
know.
You've
had
some
other
issues.
S
Then
on
the
street,
you
also
talked
about
the
street
issue
and
when
we
purchased
the
property
believe
it
or
not,
the
street.
The
street
actually
ran
all
the
way
down
to
our
first
lot
and
it
has
eroded
away
when
winds
when
erosion
completely
cut
the
street
off.
We
put
an
18
inch,
10
horn
and
put
crack
crushed
gravel
over
when
the
city
came
back.
They
laid
down
some
some
over
lay
down
to
the
end
of
Ted
Drake's
property,
but
stop
short
about
a
about
a
hundred
to
120
feet
short
of
where
the
road
was
originally.
A
H
A
C
A
B
G
B
D
F
L
Sorry
I
was
muted
I,
but
halfway
through
my
summary,
okay,
this
is
for
an
infill
residential
lot
that
proposes
to
up
to
single-family
through
for
family
staff,
had
one
technical
evaluation
in
an
attempt
to
retain
existing
row
of
trees
along
the
west
side.
The
applicant
is
unsure,
as
staff
is
as
the
health
and
viability
of
those
trees,
so
they
propose
to
provide
for
two
trees
in
the
front
setback
and
we're
fine
with
that
Ryan
Kyle
is
the
applicant
should
be
on
the
line.
O
K
C
B
G
L
D
P
P
What
staff
is
noted
in
the
staff
report
is
one
way
that
we're
able
to
remedy
any
problem
is
we're.
Gonna
have
one
shared
drive,
so
we're
not
going
to
have
what
could
otherwise
be
two
curb
cuts.
They'll
be
one
curb
cup
of
the
shared
drive
each
home
will
have
their
own
garage
but
yeah.
So
we
meet
all
of
the
regs
for
r1,
but
for
that
that
10
feet,
but
we
meet
the
size
requirements
for
two
separate
or
family
Lots
and.
D
D
A
U
U
U
That
does
for
my
concern
too
I
think
the
Pug
property
has
worked
more
than
what
a
tooth
houses
can
bring
to
the
neighborhood
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
and
they
don't
hit
the
neighborhood
as
houses.
Are
there
I
think
it's
kind
of
her,
this
property,
wise
value,
wise
I'm,
redoing,
my
house
and
I-
know
some
of
the
other
people
are
redoing
their
houses
soon,
the
neighborhood?
P
Around
these
will
be
two-story
homes,
2,000
or
so
square
feet
give
or
take
like
I
said.
Each
of
them
will
have
a
detached
garage
and
back
presumably
that
will
go
to
help
the
street
parking
issue.
I
did
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
mr.
Muncie,
and
you
know
it
is
a
public
street
north
of
20th
Street
is
a
public
street
parking
happens
along
public
streets.
It
happens.
My
guess
would
be
in
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
So
there's
really
nothing.
P
We
could
do
there
other
than
the
fact
that
we're
gonna
have
garages
I
think
what
will
help
that,
in
terms
of
the
large
trailer
that
he
has
two
single-family
homes
next
to
his
home
I,
don't
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
could
go
against
his
desire
to
drive
his
trailer
down
the
street.
Given
that
we're
gonna
meet
all
the
appropriate
setbacks
and
again
we'll
have
garages
to
help
accommodate
those.
U
P
So
the
city
has
north
noise
ordinances
I've
ever
heard
of
complaints
of
the
violation,
the
noise
ordinance
of
just
a
typical
single-family
resident
in
their
home
next
to
another
single-family
resident.
You
know,
certainly
when
you're
outside,
if
my
neighbors
are
outside
hyrum.
My
guess
is
all
of
you
are
the
same
way,
though.
The
city
does
have
nipples
ordinances,
and
if
there
was
something
that
was
being
done,
that
was
not
proper.
At
these
single-family
homes,
I
was
creating
a
noise
issue.
P
V
P
The
flight
plans
included
within
the
spud
clearly
show
garages
behind
it,
I'm,
not
sure
what
much
of
what
she
is
referring
to
and
who
dropped
it
off.
I
know
that
at
one
point
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
misinformation
being
disseminated
not
from
us
but
from
other
neighbors,
which
is
what
generated
a
lot
of
the
protest.
It
was
stated
that
it
was
going
to
be
rentals
these
long.
These
will
be
marketed
for
sale,
but
they
will
each
have
a
garage
shop,
David.
P
P
A
A
P
V
V
K
P
K
A
A
Encourages
a
mix
of
housing,
types
and
sizes
and
price
points,
and
especially
with
respect
to
infill
development
in
these
older
core
neighborhoods.
We
are
encouraging
this
kind
of
density.
I
personally,
am
in
favor
or
do
favor
these
multiple
single-family
dwellings
over
duplexes
and
poor
plexes
is
just
a
personal
preference.
In
these
older
neighborhoods.
We
tend
to
find
both
even
in
the
entity.
Existing
housing
stock,
I
think
the
yeah.
A
This
kind
of
infill
can
be
a
little
bit
scary,
but
I
would
just
share
with
you
for
what
it's
worth
that
in
those
places
where
it
has
been
realized
and
I
have
a
number
of
them
in
my
ward.
They've
really
worked
out
pretty
well
if
they
were
proposing
for
houses
on
these
two
on
this
lot,
or
you
know,
six
dwelling
units
or
even
three
frankly,
I
think
that
would
be
too
much
for
me,
but
these
two
single-family
dwellings,
I
tend
to
believe
are
a
nice
fit.
A
K
You
know
quote-unquote
tiny
home
to
a
normal
sized
home,
especially
when
the
lot
size
is
different
and
I
come
and
I
came
to
find
out
through
those
conversations
that
that
is
true,
that
they
do
not
do
that.
They
seem
to
be.
You
know
universally
in
in
agreement
that
that
is
not
a
common
practice
and
if
anyone
was
doing
it
as
an
appraiser
within
Oklahoma
that
they
would
be
going
contrary
to.
You
know
the
general
approach
on
assessing
home
values,
so
you
know
ie
short
story
is
again.
K
U
J
I
think
some
of
this
there
seems
to
be
I.
Think
much
like
the
commissioners.
The
materials
that
we
received
in
the
neighborhood
seem
to
be
missing
some
elements
so
we're
all
not
working
off
the
same
page
literally,
and
that
would
certainly
be
helpful
to
the
present
the
neighborhood
to
know
the
more
detailed
views
on
the
proposed
development,
because
all
all
that
is
available
through
the
public
website
is
the
most
cursory
of
schematic.
It's
really
hard
to
tell
what
is
being
proposed.
My
position
mainly
comes
from
the
fact
that
this
is.
J
J
So
this
is
really
out
of
character
with
the
neighborhood,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
and
I
believe
even
the
owners
on
the
line
here
about
property,
four
doors
down
that
was
successful,
infill
development
without
changing
lot
sizes,
which
is
one
of
the
goals
of
the
plan.
Okay,
seed,
medium
development
intensity
areas
is
to
maintain
those
mob
sizes.
This
is
not
against
development
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
This
is
more
to
continue
the
very
successful
development
that's
been
in
the
neighborhood
or
the
last
six
years
that
I've
been
here
and
going
down
this
route.
B
J
K
Mr.
Freeman,
that's
a
that's
a
great
point.
Well
taken
I
would
say
you
know
one
of
the
struggles
that
we
have
in
Ward.
Six
is
that
you
know
we're
the
we're
the
ward
closest
to
downtown
and
when
cities
develop
density,
they
develop
it
from
the
center
out,
typically
and,
of
course,
we're
in
the
oldest
neighborhoods
in
the
city
and
the
more
that
we
push
density
outside
of
Ward
six,
the
less
you
know
the
more
really
like
inequality
that
we
as
a
Planning
Commission
kind
of
force
on
the
city.
K
This
is
this
is
what
I
struggle
with
you
know,
I'm
telling
you
just
like
the
issues
that
we
have
to
consider
and
think
through
and
at
you
know
another
one
of
the
big
goals
of
that
plan.
Okc
document
is
to
is
to
provide
a
variety
of
options
for
any
citizen
in
Oklahoma,
City
to
potentially
be
able
to
live
in
any
neighborhood
and
while
I'm
I
totally
understand
homes
are
very
large
investment.
It's
you
know
critical
investment
for
everyone.
K
It's
still
you
know.
Every
every
lot
purchase
is
still
a
risk
and
we
can't
necessarily
be
here
just
for
the
property
owners.
As
a
as
a
protection
against
that
investment,
we
have
to
also
consider
all
of
the
other
citizens
that
might
have
you
know,
reason
good
reason
and
necessity
to
live
closer
to
downtown
to
be
closer
to
core
services.
It's
good
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
I
would
love
at
some
point,
I'm,
not
sure.
K
If
this
area
has
a
neighborhood
association,
I
I,
don't
think
I've
been
invited
to
a
meeting
just
yet
but
I'd
love
to
come
and
talk
about
these
same
issues
and
hopefully
kind
of
help
reach
a
better
understand.
You
know,
I
think
a
lot
of
the
goals
that
the
Commission
you
know
looks
to
implement
and-
and
you
know
the
I
guess
talk
about
the
other
side
of
the
coin-
that
we
see
a
lot
that
I,
don't
think,
gets
presented
very
much
in
these
meetings,
because
it's
very
rare
to
get
renters
to
a.
K
K
All
that
said,
you
know
I
just
hope
that
you
understand
kind
of
the
you
know
the
opposite
side
of
the
coin
and
the
and
the
pressures
for
development
and
for
density
close
to
downtown.
We
don't
typically
I,
think
a
lot
of
times
we
lose.
We
lose
sight
of
the
fact
of
how
close
these
neighborhoods
are.
You
know
to
really
be
downtown
it.
It's
practically
what
you
know:
walkable
and
bikable
I
lived
very
near
here
and
I
I
walked.
K
A
Freeman,
this
is
some
Commissioner
powers
looking
at
materials
that
I
think
you
submitted
to
us
with
your
protest
letter
and
the
this
particular
I'm,
not
quite
sure
what
it
is
I'm
looking
at.
It's
certainly
not
a
neither
an
aerial
nor
a
plat,
but
it's
it's
titled
proposed
lots
of
deviation
as
a
curative
neighborhood
lot.
A
Now,
maybe
it's
just
the
two
there
that
I
should
be
looking
at
on
19th
Street,
which
would
be
West,
I,
guess
of
Barnes
there's
like
2209
22:07,
which
show
on
this
drawing
this
depiction
or
whatever.
It
is
exactly.
You
know
virtually
on
top
of
each
other,
there's
another
one
on
21st,
Street,
just
east
of
Flynn
and
another
one
south
of
19,
just
east
of
Flynn,
where
there
it
shows
like
two
homes
that
are
virtually
on
top
of
each
other.
A
J
Well,
this
I
just
pulled
this
from
the
tax
assessor
I'm,
no
I'm,
not
a
real
estate
attorney
so
I
things
like
the
2207
and
22:09
19th
Street.
That
is
a
single
dwelling,
a
single
building
so
I
think,
rather
than
the
next
slide.
That
actually
has
the
actual
Lots,
as
pulled
from
also
the
city
website
gives
it
better
a
better
view
on
the
actual
locks
in
the
neighborhood
and
their
respective
widths,
and
this
was
just
what
I
hold
from
the
Tax
Assessors
website.
9.
J
E
For
the
record,
please
Dean
Richards
2107,
North,
West,
20th,
Street
I,
reside
right
across
the
street
from
this
property,
I
was
dropped
off
the
plans
by
the
lady
who
sold
the
property
to
this
development
company.
So
I've
seen
the
information
that
we
have
was
distributed
to
the
neighborhood
my
biggest
concern
as
I
love.
To
see
my
house
was
a
single-family.
My
house
was
a
duplex
before
I
bought.
It
was
gutted
and
redone.
It's
a
single
family,
prep
property.
E
Now
I
have
lived
here
two
years
with
the
intent
that
that
property
crossed
that
vacant
lot
was
a
single-family
residence.
My
biggest
concern
is
on
what
I
have
is
on
the
site
that
I
have.
Although
I
got
two
drawings
of
what's
to
be
houses,
there's
a
future
permit
that
states
it's
a
community
recreation
property
and
that's
my
biggest
concern.
A
V
E
It
just
says
future
permit
on
the
plans
like
I,
said,
I
think
as
bill
had
said
before,
we
don't
have
the
correct
information,
so
we
can't
even
understand
what's
going
on,
so
it's
pretty
scary
when
you
have
something
you
think,
there's
a
duplex.
The
last
thing
we
need
as
duplexes
in
this
neighborhood.
We
finally
have
getting
rid
of
the
crack
houses
that
they're
redoing
and
rebuilding
and
bringing
this
neighborhood
back
to
life.
E
Unfortunately,
parking
is
a
huge
issue
because
our
sidewalks
are
in
disarray
and
the
only
way
that
we
could
ride
our
bikes
or
our
grandchildren.
Our
kids
can
ride.
Our
bikes
is
on
the
street
and
they're
in
behind
cars
coming
out
all
the
time.
It's
it's
not
safe.
So
parking
is
a
huge
issue
for
all
of
us
that
live
in
this
neighborhood,
but
my
biggest
concern
is
is
why
is
this
future
permit
on
this?
Instead,
just
I'm
fine
with
a
single-family
residence,
it's
just
as
a
I,
don't
know
anything
about
the
law
or
the
city
stuff.
B
A
Know,
I
don't
see
that
on
my
documentation,
mr.
box
I
guess
you
can
figure
out
where
this
is
going.
I
gather
you
have
not
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
neighbors
to
have
a
neighborhood
meeting,
show
them
your
plans
and
get
their
comments,
questions
and
see
if
you
can
answer
or
swage
their
concerns.
I
talked.
P
To
a
few
I,
several
people
refused
to
talk
to
me.
We
sent
an
olive
branch
through
the
the
realtor
that
we
bought
it
from.
We
can
give
them
any
information.
I,
don't
know
why
we
couldn't
do
that
between
now
and
City
Council,
given
that
this
is,
in
my
opinion,
very
standard
single-family.
There
are
no
technical
evaluations.
We
meet
lot
sizes,
I'm,
not
sure
what
to
refer
into
on
future
permits
other
than
maybe
the
design
plan
safety
departments,
because
we
haven't
admitted
them
yet,
but
this
is
just
single-family
residential
there.
It
is
what
it
is.
P
We
can
certainly
give
them
the
build
plans
that
we've
got
show
them
exactly.
What
it'll
look
like
my
client,
Jack
and
Nash
I
know.
Nash
is
on
the
line,
asked
multiple
times
to
reach
out
and
were
denied
the
opportunity
that
we
then
sent
the
realtor
to
avoid
this
very
scenario:
to
distribute
some
information
but
I'm
happy
to
have
a
meeting
at
any
time
between
now
and
City
Council,
where
we
can
do
zoom
I
can
share
the
documents
through
my
screen
show
them
exactly
what
will
be
built.
Yeah.
H
David-
and
this
is
Commissioner-
Cravens
I
wouldn't
be
in
favor
of
continuing
the
item.
Anyway,
it
doesn't
matter
what
it
looks
like.
That's
not
what
we're
here
to
talk
about,
and
that's
not
even
us
for
to
decide.
That's
there
are
ordinances
and
building
codes
and
all
kinds
of
things
that
are
gonna
dictate.
H
What
happens
frankly,
whatever
you
show
us
here
is
nothing
more
than
a
picture,
could
wind
up
being
something
totally
different
and
that's
why
we
don't
get
into
these
sorts
of
conversations
at
any
great
length,
at
least
by
and
large,
there's
no
to
continue
the
item
because
I
agree.
This
is
very
straightforward.
H
It
may
not
be
something
that
the
neighbors
necessarily
are
excited
about.
This
is
probably
the
xxx
infill
development
project
we've
seen
like
this
in
and
around
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
This
is
going
to
continue.
There's
been
a
policy
to
support
it.
I
haven't
seen
anything
different
about
this
application.
That
would
change
that
policy.
For
me,
I'm
ready
to
vote
on
this
unless
there's
another
Commissioner
that
wants
to
be
heard
about
it.
H
G
D
A
K
I'm
hearing
somebody
this
is
a
very
typical
approach.
We
see
this
a
lot
I,
you
know,
because
it's
in
my
ward
and
I
I
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
opinions
of
the
people
that
live
within
the
ward
I.
You
know,
I'd
love
to
have
David
be
able
to
meet
with
the
concerned
citizens
absolutely
between
now
and
City.
Council
I
was
shared.
You
know,
of
course,
but
by
David
David.
She
heard
the
emails
with
some
of
the
local
neighbors
that
refused
to
talk
to
him.
K
P
P
T
A
A
O
O
Yeah
Madeline
been
ham,
benh
a.m.
2112
Northwest
19th.
Thank
you.
I
have
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
27
years,
and
that
gives
you
a
certain
view
of
the
development
and
changes
in
the
neighborhood
that
might
not
be
available
to
someone
who
has
not
been
here
for
quite
as
long
one
of
the
things
that
I've
seen
as
I
saw
the
era
great
poverty.
I
was
here
during
the
era
of
the
crack
houses
that's
over
and
there
is
great
prosperity
in
our
neighborhood
and
the
prosperity
has
been
accompanied
by
Intel
that
has
taken
place
without
getting
lost.
O
It
has
not
been
necessary
to
quit
lost
in
order
to
improve
the
infill
density,
posterity
of
our
neighborhood.
Now.
The
reason
this
is
a
concern,
this
issue
of
quitting.
The
lot
is
because
the
parking
problem
is
more
of
an
issue
than
you
would
think.
I
was
so
delighted
about
the
changes
that
happened
in
Gatewood.
O
I
really
would
have
been
very
surprised
to
hear
that
I
would
ever
be
speaking
up
against
a
proposal,
but
I
am
I
am
opposed
to
this
proposal
because
of
this
horrible
thing
that
have
happened
to
Gatewood
the
parking
there
is
such
an
easy.
You
cannot
literally,
some
night
cannot
get
through
on
17th,
18th,
19th
and,
of
course,
not
on
15th.
You
simply
can't
get
food
people
who
are
parked
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
These
streets
were
built
in
the
1920s
they're,
not
wide
streets
and
I
know.
O
That
sounds
like
a
minor
issue,
but
it
really
isn't.
I
was
standing
in
my
front
Europe
II
my
front
yard
a
few
years
ago,
when
I
saw
a
child
not
from
his
bicycle,
because
he
had
to
go
into
the
other
Lane
incorrectly
in
order
to
get
around
the
park
and
the
person
who
kidding
the
motorist,
beginning
was
turning
onto
Northwest
tonight
seems
some
kin
and
motorists
could
not
possibly
have
seen
that
child.
It
was
not
at
fault,
it
was
also
not
the
fault
of
the
child.
O
It
was
the
fault
of
the
park
cars
on
the
street.
That
is
not
a
minor
issue.
It
is
an
EP
of
life
and
walk
people
get
hurt,
people
get
hurt,
you
could
employ
conditions
that
result
in
over
parking,
and
you
may
say
to
me
well
we're
providing
some
parking
we're
going
to
put
through
our
dispatch
there.
Each
of
those
houses
will
have
two
or
more
adults
living
there
and
all
likelihood.
Every
one
of
those
adults
will
own
an
automobile
and
I
know
we
would
all
mother.
O
I
want
us
to
be
realistic
about
the
way
people
get
to
work
and
get
around
in
this
city
right
now
we
do
that
in
our
automobile,
the
workflow,
but
it
is
so
fun
I'd
like
to
address
one
more
issue:
the
Commissioner
Commissioner,
who
felt
about
the
the
desire
to
include
densities
in
order
to
afford
more
equality
to
everyone,
including
winners,
I,
think
it's
very
disingenuous
to
suggest
that
you
will
increase
equality
by
building
houses.
It
was
sell
for
300
to
350
thousand
dollars.
O
I
could
not
possibly
afford
that
now
or
at
any
time,
including
the
time
in
my
life
and
I'm
they,
the
kind
of
living
that
allowed
me
to
be
a
winner.
It
is
ridiculous
to
say
that
that
was
an
affordable
house
that
will
result
in
greater
policies.
It's
not
an
unreasonable
price
for
a
level
of
health
in
this
neighborhood,
but
it
will
certainly
not
increase
equality.
I
think
that
was
a
silly
remark.
Okay,.
K
Well,
this
is
the
Commissioner.
This
is
Commissioner.
Highsmith
I
hear
your
criticism
of
my
remarks.
I
again,
I'd
love,
if
there's
a
neighborhood
association
to
come
and
have
a
longer
discussion
about
that,
I
think
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
I
could
share
with
the
group.
That
would
would
surprise
you
guys
facts
that
would
surprise
you
about
the
realities
of
these
developments.
I
understand,
you've
lived
there
for
27
years.
Understand
that
you
know,
we've
we've
as
a
commission
and
myself
personally
I've
dealt
with
the
issues
of
zoning
for
well.
We
think
about
these.
K
Every
day
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
items.
All
that
said,
the
you
know
to
the
individual
point
you
made
I
think
you
know,
I
actually
live
in
Gatewood
I
live
in
between
17
and
18th,
actually
on
Kerry
place.
If
you've
been
down
Kerry
place,
it's
easily
one
of
the
skinniest
streets
in
the
city,
and
it
has
a
lot
of
parking
on
it.
K
One
of
the
things
that's
very
easy
to
notice.
In
the
difference
between
our
urban
streets
that
people
park
on
and
say
a
subdivision,
you
know
a
newer
subdivision
that
might
be
on
the
outskirts
of
the
city.
It
actually
comes
in
with
the
amount
of
parking
that's
allowed
on
the
street
and
the
size
of
the
lanes
and
I
think
the
first
immediate,
easy
thing
to
notice
on
those
developments
on
the
outer
ring
of
the
city
is
the
speed
with
which
cars
drive
on
those
roads
where
they
have
more
room.
K
So
the
wider
you
make
a
street
the
less
on
street
parking
that
exists
there.
The
easier
it
is
to
drive
fast
now.
I
understand
your
concern
with
with
turning
from
pin
onto
onto
these
more
residential
streets.
That
is
not.
You
know.
We
can't,
as
a
Planning
Commission,
put
those
issues
at
the
feet
of
somebody
trying
to
redevelop
their
property.
So
I
understand
your
issue.
K
Your
neighborhood
better
there
it's
detailed
stuff,
it's
in
the
weeds
and
so
I
really
think
this
would
need
to
be
a
longer
conversation
at
a
neighborhood
meeting
where
I'm
happy
for
you
guys
to
grill
me
and
yell
at
me.
All
you
want,
and
you
know
we
could
have
a
long,
robust
conversation
anyway.
Hopefully
that
addresses
some
of
the
things
that
you
brought
up
and
provides
a
little
bit
of
additional
information
of
color
that
helps
you
with
the
position,
at
least
that
I'm
likely
to
take
with
this
item.
If.
P
I'm,
a
real,
quick
I
want
to
make
sure
all
the
neighbors
have
you
know
my
email
address.
I
gave
it
twice
so,
in
terms
of
the
past,
there's
been
a
lot
of
references
to
crack
houses.
I
think
it
should
be
noted
that
the
fact
that
you're
having
a
developer
wanting
to
come
in
and
build,
what
do
you
want
wanting
to
build
I
think
is
a
wonderful
sentiment
for
where
this
neighborhood
is
and
has
evolved
from
that
those
days.
So
to
me
it.
P
K
K
A
A
Q
I
may
please,
okay,
this
is
Pam
Gail
I
live
at
21,
25,
Northwest,
19th
and
and
without
laboring.
The
conversation
I
agree
with
my
my
cleavers,
Madeline
and
and
Bill
one
thing.
I
would
like
like
to
speak
more
of
that
I.
Don't
think
that
has
been
impressed
upon
the
Commission
our
neighborhood
is
is
relatively
small.
We
are
we're
only
a
couple
of
blocks,
but
one
thing
that
we
have
to
offer
the
city
that
you
don't
find
necessarily
close
to
downtown
is
our
larger
Lots.
Q
Our
our
houses
range
from
the
turn-of-the-century
to
1940.
If
you
will,
our
Lots
within
these
couple
of
blocks
are
bigger
than
anybody
else's
and
that's
something
that
we
can
offer,
as
as
the
councilman
suggested
that
we
can
offer
to
the
city
is
a
larger
lot
closer
to
downtown.
If
these
Lots
are
allowed
to
be
divided,
we
start
to
lose
part
of
our
heritage
that
we
that
we
have
and
hold
closely
here
into
Las
Vegas.
Q
As
you
can
hear,
some
of
my
neighbors
are
spirited
and
perhaps
didn't
convey
themselves
in
a
way
that
that
they
should
have
to
communicate
their
their
desires
to
keep
our
Lots
as
large
as
they
are,
because
that
is
special
to
downtown.
That
is
special
to
Las
Vegas
and
to
start
dividing.
Our
Lots
takes
that
away
from
us
and
and
I
think
that's
what
we
really
hold
dear.
We
are
excited
about
redevelopment
and
and
the
the
brief
plan
that
mr.
Bach
showed
it's
a
wonderful
design.
That's
not
the
issue.
Q
Q
No,
we
don't
have,
we
don't
have
those
either
in
our
neighborhood.
What
we
do
have
and
I
think
what
Commissioner
Pao
was
seen
from
the
aerial
view
of
the
map
she
was
looking
at.
We
have
several
larger
homes
that
are
of
that
2,000
square
feet
that
have
garage
apartments
in
the
back
and
usually
those
are
just
a
single
apartment.
Maybe
there's
two
apartments,
but
but
no
more
than
that,
so.
K
You
would
you
would
potentially
support
a
project
that
contemplated
a
single-family
home
on
a
traditional
lot
size
there
that
had
a
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
behind,
but
otherwise
the
only
thing
that
you
that
that
you
believe
matches
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
would
be
single-family
on
the
existing
Lots.
Is
that
correct?
That
is.
Q
Correct
a
lot
of
the
apartments
that
I've
seen
that
are
within
Las,
Vegas
and
I
have
several
for
context.
I
have
several
rental
properties
in
the
city,
so
I'm
about
the
city
quite
a
bit.
A
lot
of
what
we
see
are
that
those
apartments
are
used
as
offices
and
things
of
that
nature.
They
have
not
yet
converted
over
to
people
using
them
as
actual
apartments
where
people
are
living
and
we
have
several
of
those
in
Las,
Vegas
and
I
only
know
of
one
I'm
sure
my
neighbors
that
have
been
here
longer
could
speak
to
that.
K
K
Q
See
that
mr.
Richards
is
still
on,
if
he
wants
to
correct
me,
but
I,
remember
from
his
property
I
mean
again:
I
live
on
the
next
street.
Over
his
property
was
a
single-family
home
to
begin
with.
During
the
the
80s
and
the
90s,
it
was
converted
to
a
duplex
somewhere
around
in
there.
I
don't
know
when
and
then,
as
our
neighborhood
has
continued
to
grow
and
and
redevelop,
people
are
coming
back
in
and
taking
those
out,
because
it
is
no
longer
a
value
here.
Q
K
K
Sorry,
okay,
my
ward,
I,
obviously
a
contested
issue
but
I'd
real
chance
to
have
that
longer
conversation
with
the
neighbors
and
and
really
impress
upon
them,
I
think
I
think
you
know
why
the
Commission
has
come
to
the
view
that
we
have
and
supporting
these
types
of
three
developments.
So
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
to
recommend
approval.
B
N
P
L
This
is
an
application
for
a
commercial
industrial
development.
That's
located
in
the
employment
reserve,
land-use
typology
staff
review
recommended
approval,
subject
to
six
technical
evaluations,
technical
technical
evaluation
1.
The
applicant
would
like
to
amend
to
allow
for
a
25
foot
setback
from
the
south
boundary
with
the
10
foot
buffer
and
we're
fine.
With
that
te
2,
we
happened
agrees
to
e3.
We
asked
to
eliminate
loading,
docks
and
overhead
doors
from
the
southernmost
the
southern
place
of
the
southernmost
buildings,
because
that
area
to
the
south
is
residential.
L
L
Technical
evaluation
for
an
applicant
agrees
to
that
te.
5
was
a
list
of
laundry
laundry
list
of
uses
that
staff
felt
were
really
not
appropriate
for
the
employment
reserve
area.
The
applicant
agreed
to
delete
all
of
those
with
the
exception
of
2
that
was
8300,
18
and
19,
and
those
are
the
two
that
allow
auto
dealerships
and
truck
dealerships,
and
we
are
concerned
that
they
do
not
generate
the
employment
that
the
ER
area
envisioned
and
te6.
The
applicant
agrees
with
the
applicant
is
David
box
and
he
is
on
the
line.
L
P
So
David
box
same
address,
5:22
Colcord,
Drive
I
would
like
to
address
those
handful
of
tes
that
we'd
like
to
modify.
If
you
look
at
the
the
area
could
I
share
my
screen
at
this
point.
It
could
provide
some
some
help
here.
A
touch
step
earlier.
I
think
that
is
a
an
option.
Zac
is
that
possible?
Yes,.
A
L
P
P
Two
is
the
tracks
on
the
south
and
that's
an
eye
one
base
and
it's
an
eye
one
base,
then
with
additional
uses
taken
out
and
so
I
think,
just
by
its
very
nature,
you're
not
likely
to
have
those
uses
with
heavy
truck
traffic
and
tractor
trailers
coming
they're
coming
at
that
site.
Additionally,
if
you
drive
out
there
southwest
15
is
a
more
developed
Street,
whereas
County
Line
is
I
should
be
sharing
my
screen
at
this
point
right
now.
So
can
everybody
see
my
screen.
P
A
P
What
we've
done
is
we've
broken
it
like
I,
said
in
two
tracks,
so
we've
got
this
this
northern
tract
and
then
the
southern
tract,
the
northern
tract
is
the
Aitu
base,
surrounded
by
other
I
to
users.
You've
got
the
landfill
here.
This
is
all
industrial
type
of
stuff,
which
is
why
it's
employment
reserved.
You
know
when
we
zoom
in
we'll
see
the
South
West
15th.
Is
you
a
four-lane,
major
arterial
and
County
line?
P
Just
simply
isn't
so
from
a
position
of
what
it
would
be
marketed
to
you're
not
likely
to
market
this
to
an
end
user?
That
will
want
heavy
truck
traffic
on
that
southern
track,
so
I
think
the
lower
base
use
units
I
want
and
removing
those
uses,
I
think
is
going
to
solve
that
problem.
I
think
the
hundred
and
fifty
foot
separation
is
a
significant
separation
for
any
overhead
doors
that,
coupled
with
the
fact
that
we'll
have
that
template
landscape
buffer
on
the
on
the
southern
end
of
that
track.
P
I
think
we
have
accomplished
what
the
goals
were
in
ensuring
that
you
don't
have
those
problems
on
that
southern
line,
as
it
relates
to
te
number
five
in
those
two
use
units
we
do
want
to
keep
just
those
two
we're
fine
with
removing
all
the
other
ones,
but
we
do
want
to
keep
those
two
I.
Don't
think
that
you
would
see
this
as
a
traditional
car
lot.
There
is
an
entity
that
my
client
is
talking
to.
That
is
a
larger
scale
employer.
It's
not
your
traditional
Karla
like
you'd,
see
on
I-35
or
Broadway
extension.
P
I,
understand
the
concern
of
stab
because
its
employment
reserve
that
your
typical
car
lot,
if
it
located
here
it
would
take
up
a
lot
of
space
and
not
generate
that
much
employment.
However,
I
just
don't
see
a
traditional
car
law
wanting
to
locate
here
those
users
typically
cluster-
they
want
to
be
on
a
highway.
They
don't
want
to
be
on
Southwest
15,
that
county
long
I
just
can't
see
that
that
is
a
viable
spot
for
a
car
lot.
Anyways,
so
I
think
keeping
those
in
allows
us
to
pursue
this
end
user.
P
That
could
be
a
I
think,
a
wonderful
user
for
this
area
generate
a
lot
of
jobs
and
keep
the
flexibility
that
we
need.
So
the
way
that
we
have
revised
the
tes
I'm
hopeful
it
gets
to
what
staff
would
wanted
to
do
but
allows
us
to
continue
with
flexibility
in
this
area
that,
as
it
is
a
heavily
industrialized
area
of
the
city,
which
is
why
it
was
listed
in
the
employment
reserve
by
staff.
In
the
compliment.
A
P
Mean
I'm
happy
to
work
with
staff
on
how
to
accomplish
that.
We
can't
reveal
who
the
potential
end
user
is,
but
I
mean
my
question
would
be:
do
we
think
that
that
uses
yeah
well?
Just
look
at
that
use?
Is
that
really
inappropriate?
I
mean?
Is
that
you
so
use
that
is
problematic
for
this
area?
I
mean
I'm.
You
know
I'm
suing
in
on
these
things,
to
show
yeah
I
can't
imagine
why
it
would
be
an
inappropriate
use
for
the
area
yeah.
K
H
A
H
Yeah,
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
foot
building
will
absolutely
be
serviced
by
a
semi
trucks.
There's
no
doubt
that
those
buildings
are
going
to
be
serviced
by
semi
trucks.
Having
said
that,
I
I
don't
really
see
what
the
issue
is
here
because
they
agreed
to.
Oh
thank
you
staff
for
putting
it.
They
agreed
to
move
that
drive
seven
hundred
feet
off
of
it
and
they're
not
gonna,
have
any
overhead
doors
in
the
back.
H
P
H
You
don't
have
outside
storage
either,
and
you
don't
have
enough
space
there
I
mean
you
know.
Maybe
that's
the
thing.
If
that's
the
issue,
maybe
what
we
need
to
do
is
restrict
so
much
footage
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
also
for
truck
parking,
because
what
you
wouldn't
want
to
do.
What
the
real
concern
with
sites
like
this
is.
H
Is
that
a
lot
of
times
these
trucks
come
on-site
and
they'll
park,
for
you
know
a
day
or
two
or
three
or
more
at
a
time,
depending
on
what
they're
loading
and
unloading
from
a
distribution
perspective?
So
maybe
what
you
do
if
it's,
if
it's
trying
to
create
a
an
amicable
agreement
here,
is
restrict
the
parking
of
those
trucks.
You
know
somewhere
from
the
south
boundary
up
the
way
they've
got
it
on
a
site
plan.
Trucks
couldn't
park
there
anyway,
because
the
buildings
are
so
for
ourselves.
But
this
is
just
a
proposed
site
plan.
F
P
F
F
Just
gonna
say
is
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
Commission
or
our
concern
was
just
you
know
how
the
question
of
how
much
space
is
enough
space,
because,
if
you've
got
the
semis
that
are
that
are
backing
into
these
docks.
You
know
you've
got
the
noise
of
them
pulling
in
and
out
their
engines
running
and
stuff
like
that
for
the
for
the
single-family
homes.
So
it's
really
just
a
question
in
our
minds
of
how
you
know
what
that
appropriate
distance
would
be.
A
As
I
look
at
this
site
plan
and
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Cravens.
Of
course
it's
not
we're,
not
you
know,
approving
the
site
plan
today
it
there
are
these
these
streets
between
the
buildings
on
the
far
west
side
that
go
out
onto
your
drives
that
go
out
onto
County
Line
Road.
So,
even
though
there
may
not
be
any
loading
dock
across
the
back,
that
is
the
County
Line
Road
side
of
those
buildings,
the
side
nearest
those
residential
uses.
A
H
You
know
what
one
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
as
you
look
at
the
surrounding
zoning
to
the
west
is
that
you
I
mean
this
line
is
where
the
heavy
industrial
overlay
for
southwest
Oklahoma
City
County
line
is
kind
of
where
it
ends,
and
you
have
this
real
transitional
area
where
Mustang
is
sort
of
grown
over
from
the
east.
But
you've
got
this.
You
know
the
Hobby
Lobby
campus
and
all
that
stuff.
H
This
agricultural
area
that
somebody
may
come
in
and
rezone
as
residential
right,
which
could
be
wind
up
being
built
first
and
now,
you've
got
even
more
residential
conflict
between
the
industrial
and
the
residential
and
I
love
me,
some
industrial
property
for
sure,
but
the
way
they've
got
the
site
designed
I.
Think
these
buffer
parcels
I'm
not
sure
David
or
Tim,
probably
David.
What
are
these
parcels
that
that
are
just
shown
in
green
that
are
smaller
parcels
that
run
along
the
western
and
northern
edge?
What
are
those.
P
M
M
H
H
Would
you
guys
I
didn't
really
anticipate
this
and
I'm,
so
sorry
that
I
didn't
mention
in
advance,
but
listening
to
the
discussion,
would
you
guys
mind
taking
two
weeks
on
this
one,
and
maybe
Commissioner
coffee
and
I,
and
you
guys
can
work
together
to
try
to
button
this
up
a
little
bit
and
let
it
go
forward,
but
in
a
way
that's
really
respectful
of
the
fact
that
this
County
Line
Road.
It's
is
really
kind
of
a
dividing
line.
Hold.
A
If
I
kid
before
before,
we
do
that
in
which
I
think
is
a
great
idea
on
favor
of
it
as
I'm
looking
at
this
I'm,
almost
wondering
whether
if
the
site
were
flipped,
the
buildings
were,
you
know,
just
mirror
image
of
what
they
are,
whether
that
might
even
be
a
better
solution
and
I
was
going
to
ask
Commissioner
privet.
This
reminds
me
a
lot
of
the
Industrial
Development.
That
kind
of
abut
your
neighborhood
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
might
want
to
contribute
your
thoughts
also
to
the
layout
here
or
the
the
limitations.
A
I
agree
that
that,
of
course,
if
you're
talking
about
fast-food
restaurants,
I
guess
those
would
not
be
a
very
good
use
along
that
East
boundary
but
and
it
the
larger
buildings
almost
seems
to
me
like
they
would
provide
better
offering
if
that
makes
sense,
if
those,
if
those
loading
docks
and
the
traffic
was
not
on
that
west
side
of
them,
so
my
two
cents
worth
mike,
you
might
choose,
you
might
choose
to
contribute
your
thoughts
as
this
moves
forward.
I.
Think
two
weeks
is
a
great
idea.
C
C
P
F
I
K
A
B
A
C
D
L
P
P
A
P
So,
okay,
if
he's
not
online,
so
this
is
a
mining
operation.
It'll
be
a
sand.
Mining
operations
it'll
be
a
dredging
operation.
It
is
worth
noting.
If
you
see
on
the
aerial,
there
are
several
other
mining
operations
in
close
proximity,
which
is
not
surprising
that
it's
on
the
river,
that's
where
they
mined
sand
and
other
minerals.
You
know
we,
we
are
very
regulated
through,
not
just
the
city
through
the
entitlements,
but
also
we
have
to
go
to
the
Department
of
Mines
part
of
Environmental
Quality.
P
You
know,
all
of
which
we
will
be
working
through
through
the
extent
of
this
operation.
So
you
know
we
were
able
to
talk
to
mr.
Murray
kind
of
walk
through
what
it
is,
we're
doing,
ultimately,
I
think
Michael
and
him
came
to
an
agreement,
and
that
is
why
he
is
no
longer
in
protest.
So
we
would
ask
for
your
approval
and
there
are
no
technical
evaluation.
A
A
G
D
A
J
B
B
F
A
A
H
A
W
This
is
a
bit
of
an
academic
exercise,
because
this
item
has
already
proceeded
to
City
Council
and
was
given
approval,
but
the
applicant
requested
that
we
come
back
to
the
Planning
Commission.
We
admit
there
was
a
noticing
error
back
in
January
that
didn't
allow
the
item,
the
CPA
item,
to
be
heard
with
the
zoning
question,
so
you
all
approved
the
zoning
and
the
applicant
proceeded
to
counsel
with
the
item
so
just
to
make
sure
everybody's
really
clear
on
that
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
A
W
W
W
The
applicant
is
providing
water
and
sewer
those
are
going
to
be
available
and
service
the
site.
The
outline
exists
the
longer
than
rural
response
time
target
for
fire.
So
we
looked
at
this
a
lot
of
different
ways
and
we
cannot
change
our
recommendation
to
to
support
approving
this
proposed
land
use
change
precisely
because,
as
you
can
see
from
the
shared
image,
the
the
subject
parcel
exists
in
that
area
of
Oklahoma
City.
That
is,
has
longer
than
rural
response
time
for
fire.
W
So
that
really
does
lead
us
to
our
conclusion,
which
is
in
spite
of
this
being
a
kind
of
academic
discussion.
We
are
still
recommending
denial
on
the
request
to
change
the
comp
plan
amendment
so
rather
than
belabor.
The
point
I
will
try
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Geoff
butler
is
also
here,
so
he
can
answer
questions
you.
A
F
F
It's
the
reason
for
that
is
it's
just
that
it's
that
the
zoning
has
already
been
approved.
That's
that's
really
simply
the
reason
for
that
comment
and
the
zoning
has
been
approved.
So
this
is
just
changing
the
map
and
no
matter
what
we
do
with
this
action.
The
developer
can
move
forward
with
their
planned
project.
K
F
K
Because
of
the
you
know,
III
guess
what
I'm
getting
at
is.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
could
impress
upon
City
Council
as
a
commission
to
address
the
potential
concerns?
I
mean
maybe
they're
they're
addressing
it
is
just
to
say
we
already
have.
We've
approved
the
building
code
as
as
it
is,
but
I
just
wonder
if
if
City
Council
really
understands
the
you
know,
I'd
like
them
to
hear
at
least
or
understand
the
conversation
that
we've
had
as
a
commission
to
make
sure
that
they're.
You
know
that
our
concerns
are
their
concerns.
Maybe
yeah.
F
I'll
tell
you
that
we
so
since
the
last
Commission
meeting,
where
you
know
that
this
similar
issue
was
discussed
at
length,
we've
met
with
the
fire
department
with
fire,
marshal's
office
and
they're,
going
to
have
kind
of
deliberations
internally,
because
you
know
the
some
good
points
were
brought
up
last
time
about.
You
know:
what's
what's
the
right
thing
to
do?
F
Even
it's
already
been
planted
or
just
would
it
only
apply
to
new
zoning
cases
as
far
as
when
we
originally
talked
to
the
fire
chief,
a
few
months
back
in
response
to
this
case,
there's
this
that
was
really
in
relation
to
whether
or
not
it
was
appropriate
to
bring
something
this
property
into
urban
low,
because
the
Planning
Commission.
Obviously,
that's
you
know
when
you're
talking
about
what
the
right
time
to
develop
is
that's
the
Planning
Commission's
purview.
Do
we
have
the
services?
F
Is
this
the
right
time
to
entitle
this
for
development,
or
does
it
need
to
wait
or
somewhere
in
between,
whereas
last
meeting
it
was
something
that
was
already
zoned?
It
was.
It
was
urban
low
already
had
already,
so
it
really
was
a
separate
issue,
who's
just
the
plat,
and
and
is
it
appropriate
to
require
somebody
to
do
something
they
weren't
aware
of
when
they,
when
they
originally
found
the
property.
F
So
there
are
two
separate
issues
and
we
were
working
with
fire
department
to
kind
of
talk
through
that,
so
there's
there's
more
to
come
as
far
as
that
discussion
goes
and
we
talked
about
the
building
code
and
the
different
versions
that
are
coming
forth.
They
they're
they're,
going
to
start
very
soon.
The
process
of
you
know
Mike's
on
the
line
you
can.
You
can
correct
me
if
I
make
an
error
here,
but
going
through
and
potentially
adopting
the
2018
code.
So
maybe
an
opportune
time
to
do
this,
although
it
will
take
some
time.
C
F
C
K
Will
make
a
totally
qualitative
comment
here
and
that
I
I
do
think
as
a
as
a
pressure
to
continue
densifying
closer
to
the
core.
That
utilizing
response
times
is
a
great
is
a
great
way
to
kind
of
create
that
development
pressure,
so
that
you
know
we
adhere
to
the
concepts
of
plan.
Okay,
see
I,
don't
know
that
staff
has
that
many
tools
at
their
disposal
to
incentivize
development
towards
the
core,
and
this
seems
like
one
of
them.
K
H
Hey
so
we
just
add
to
your
comment
about
whether
or
not
those
conversations
have
been
relayed.
I'll
tell
you,
because
it
had
come
up
twice
in
such
a
short
period
of
time.
I
I
mean
I,
took
the
step
and
I
would
encourage
each
of
you.
All's
Planning
Commission,
do
the
same.
I
contacted
mark
Stonecipher
and
had
a
discussion
with
him
about
what
had
unfolded
in
our
last
meeting
and
then
the
one
before
and
as
Jeff
pointed
out
appropriately.
H
There
are
two
very
separate
issues
that
we
we
faced
in
a
very
close
proximity
to
one
another,
but
there
are
two
very
different
issues.
One
was
a
zoning,
and
one
was
a
planning
issue
and
I
took
the
time
to
explain
that
to
him
and
made
sure
that
he
had,
you
know
kind
of
the
the
gist
of
our
concerns
that
had
been
addressed
and
then
where
it
was
going.
H
H
K
N
Actually
I
do
have
an
opinion
I'd
like
to
see
that
it
gets
approved.
Obviously,
does
it
have
an
impact
on
whether
or
not
we
can
develop
it
or
not?
I,
don't
you
know
I
zoom
it
doesn't,
but
you
know
I
still,
we've
made
the
application
we
put
in
the
effort
and
the
work
and
we'd
like
to
follow
through
with
it
I'm,
not
exactly
sure.
If
there's
some
details
left
out
there
that
may
affect
it
down
the
road
again.
N
You
know
we,
even
though
this
was
said
to
be
a
companion
item
and
and
obviously
because
the
noticing
Erin's
mother
events
is
not
getting
for
you.
You
know
we
did
have
a
lengthy
discussion
at
that
time,
specifically
about
the
comp
plan
and
I'm
sitting
here,
looking
at
a
an
exhibit
that
I
have,
if
you
all
care
for
me
to
share
my
screen.
N
But
if
you
look
at
this
general
area,
I'm
saying
I'm
looking
at
more
than
25
developments
in
this
area
that
are
ongoing
developments
that
all
fall
beyond
that
urban
response
time
and
when
I
look
at
this
site,
there's
just
not
anything
to
me
that
differentiates
it
so
I
think.
If
you
look
at
that,
not
only
on
the
east
side,
we
had
we're
joined
by
an
approved
development
as
well
as
on
the
West
we
have
her
below
on
the
South
memorial.
N
So
if
you
leave
those
things
in
conjunction
with
the
fact
that
there's
actually
already
been
a
complement
that
was
approved
north
of
one
hundred
and
fiftieth
on
the
west
side
of
county
line,
you
know
we
would
like
to
see
that
the
Cobb
play
and
is
amended
to
match
our
zoning
and
that
way
we
don't
have
any
hidden
pitfalls
out.
There.
N
H
Kendall
I'm
going
to
jump
in
here
a
second
I
I
respect
what
you're
saying
I
think
this
doesn't
affect
your
development
in
any
way
and
my
opinion,
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
change
for
anybody
else.
Who's
previously
been
zoned
who's
sitting
out
there
with
a
plaid
eye.
I'll
have
this
argument
as
many
times
as
is
necessary
in
an
effort
to
help
these
things
that
have
been
in
the
works
get
through.
That
said,
I
think
to
staffs
point.
This
is
one
of
the
few.
H
The
few
ways
we
actually
have
to
say
to
public
in
the
development
community
right
now
that
for
forthcoming
applications.
This
is
something
that
is
that
that
is
unsettled,
and
it's
also
the
way
we
can
indicate
that
to
City
Council,
that
this
is
an
unsettled
issue.
People
have
often
come
in
and
used
these
comp
plan
amendments
as
sort
of
the
the
doormat
for
rezoning
applications,
adjacent
and
so
forth.
If
there
are
applications
that
have
been
zone
and
Platts
come
up,
I
cannot
speak
for
the
Planning
Commission
or
any
of
its
members,
except
for
myself.
H
I
will
certainly
advocate
for
those
folks
for
their
applications
to
be
approved,
but
as
it
relates
to
the
complan
amendment,
this
is
purely
within
our
purview
as
a
Planning
Commission
and
it
says,
look
there
are
development
issues
here
that
we
need
to
make
people
aware
of
it.
This
is
our
only
way
to
do
that.
Your
application,
going
through
in
my
view,
is
the
right
thing.
City
Council
agreed
with
that.
H
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
more
discussion
on
this
I
think,
as
you
well
know,
but
I
think
recommending
denial
of
the
complaint
change
in
supporting
that
recommendation
from
staff.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
here
it
it
just
it's
it's
it's.
The
only
weapon
we've
got
man
in
you
know.
What's
right
is
right,
I
think
what
happened
with
you,
what
happened
there
was
right
and
but
I
think
this
is
right
too
and
I
don't
know
what
else
to
do.
H
It
seems
a
little
weird
to
you
know
to
recommend
denial
on
the
complaint
amendment
having
supported
your
application
diligently,
but
I
think
that's
I,
think
it's
the
right
call
so
I'm
hoping
these
conversations
are
going
to
continue
and
I
think
I.
Think
that
enough
doors
are
getting
rattled
that
that
they
will
so,
hopefully
we'll
get
a
resolution
of
this
soon
by
counsel
speaking
in
the
form
of
an
ordinance.
That's
what
we
really
need
to
happen
so
I.
A
B
B
D
B
D
A
The
last
two
items
on
the
agenda
have
been
continued
so
that
that
disposes
of
our
items
to
be
heard,
I
want
to
thank
staff,
especially
for
that
presentation
and
and
we'll
proceed
with
additional
items
of
which
I'm
not
aware
that
there
are
any
communications
and
reports
Planning
Commission
committees,
of
which
there
are
none
planning.
Commission
members
and
I'll
go
first
to
thank
staff
so
very,
very
much
for
their
help
and
setting
up
this
videoconference.
A
Frances
Kersey,
who
the
city
clerk
was
so
so
helpful,
Miki,
Graham
and
Zach
Nash
you
just.
We
definitely
would
not
have
been
able
to
pull
this
off
with
you,
the
staff
generally.
You
know
as
Cindy
waken
and
Jan
Drummond,
who
gave
me
some
advice
about
various
things
as
we're
moving
forward
here
and
but
of
course,
Susan
Randall
as
well,
JJ,
Jeff,
Butler
and
all
of
you
who
have
kind
of
guide
us
through
this.
Thank
you
so
much
I
know
this
must
be
such
an
extra
burden
and
an
extra
hat
heap
of
work
for
you.
H
G
A
F
We
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
update,
so
the
for
the
code
update
we,
the
mayor,
the
mayor,
has
selected
a
group
of
people
that
he
would
like
to
invite
to
be
the
stakeholder
financial
news
that
the
Cova
19
slowed
us
down
there,
but
he's
got
that
to
get
together
and
the
invitations
should
be
going
out
any
day
now
so
I'll
follow
up
with
that
and
kind
of
keep
you
guys
posted.
Obviously,
some
planning
commissioners
will
be
on
that.
The
other
thing
to
report
is
that
we
have
begun
focus
groups
for
the
sign
code.