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From YouTube: Board of Adjustment Meeting - April 2, 2020
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The regular meeting of the Oklahoma City Board of Adjustment of Thursday April 2, 2020.
A
Okay,
it
looks
like
we're
ready
to
start
now
for
a
second.
The
agenda
wasn't
showing
up
online
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
had
access
to
the
agenda
where
we
started
just
to
begin
thanks
for
joining
us
for
the
Oklahoma
City
Board
of
Adjustment
teleconference
meeting,
while
I
think
we
would
all
prefer
in-person
meetings
under
normal
circumstances.
I
commend
the
city
staff
and
my
fellow
board
members
for
doing
what
it
takes
to
ensure
that
the
business
of
the
city
can
continue
and
all
of
your
matters
can
still
be
heard.
A
We
have
a
few
announcements
to
make
regarding
this
teleconference
meeting.
If
the
teleconference
is
disconnected
at
any
comment
or
the
meeting,
the
meeting
will
be
stopped
and
reconvened
once
the
audio
connection
is
restored.
If
communications
are
unable
to
be
restored
within
30
minutes,
items
remaining
for
consideration
will
be
continued
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting,
which
will
be
April,
16
2020
at
1:30,
and
that
will
look
like
they'd
also
be
by
teleconference.
The
agenda
and
documents
are
located
in
OKC
gov
for
applicants,
interesting
documents
and
exhibits
in
the
applications.
A
Please
be
specific
so
that
board
members
and
the
public
can
follow
along
with
you,
references
or
anyone
wishing
to
speak
about
an
agenda
item
or
to
speak
under
citizens
to
be
heard.
Hopefully
you
have
previously
notified
staff
by
phone
or
email
and
I
will
call
on
you
to
speak
at
the
appropriate
time.
If
you
have
already
contacted
staff,
we
will
call
the
case
and
then
I
will
recognize
the
applicant
to
speak.
They
don't
recognize
any
protesters
and
then
we
will
close
with
the
applicant
giving
any
final
remarks.
A
The
board
will
deliberate
ask
any
questions
and
then
the
board
will
take
a
vote
if
you
call
in
after
your
item
has
been
heard,
it'll
be
a
lot
to
speak
under
citizens
to
be
heard,
and
we
request
that
you
live
any
comments
to
three
minutes.
Will
you
comment?
Excuse
me
when
you
call
in
staff
will
mute
your
phone.
A
So
all
your
phones
should
be
muted
right
now,
I
had
all
participants
for
four
members,
and
so
they
are
recognized
to
speak
to
unmute
your
phone
press
star
six,
as
Miss
Mikan
previously
instructed
board
members
will
be
allowed
to
ask
questions
and
make
any
comments
at
any
time
here
at
the
meeting,
which
is
asked
that
all
board
members
identify
themselves
before
they
start
speaking,
so
that
the
record
is
clear,
never
heard
of
that.
Only
one
person
can
be
heard
at
a
time
if
more
than
one
person
is
speaking
at
a
time.
A
The
system
will
leave
one
speaker
automatically,
so
we
will
only
be
able
to
hear
one
person
and
not
multiple
people
again
before
we
start
speaking
identify
yourself
for
the
purposes
of
the
record.
There
will
be
a
roll
call,
every
15
minutes.
All
thoughts
will
be
by
roll
call.
They
by
the
municipal,
councillor,
I've
reminded
or
reminding
staff
now
to
make
sure
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
now
I
will
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
can
the
clerk
take
the
first
roll
call.
B
C
A
A
A
A
The
minutes
are
approved.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
continuance,
requests
or
withdrawals
Cynthia.
If
you
could
for
actually
I
think
JJ's
doing
these
say
James,
you
could
read
the
any
continuous
requests
or
withdrawals.
Please,
okay.
We
have
three
continue
the
quest
Thanks.
The
first
is
item
1114,
729,
third
and
a
seven
item,
12
case
14
695
to
32
April,
16
and.
A
E
A
B
A
A
Okay,
either
some
big
consent
docket
can
be
voted
on
as
a
group
or
approval
without
presentation
to
the
board
unless
there's
a
protest
or
if
someone
wants
to
speak
on
a
matter
well,
if
anyone
on
the
line
that
would
like
to
speak
on
a
matter
generally,
this
would
be
for
protest.
That's
only,
but
is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak
on
any
of
these
two
matters.
A
F
A
A
G
A
A
I
I
J
J
A
B
J
J
D
A
Yes
and
I
think
a
couple
of
filaments
spoke
at
the
last
meeting
as
well
just
in
case
so
that
I
get
their
comments
on
the
record
and
they
may
or
may
not
be
the
same
person
or
people
that
have
called
in
today,
but
we'll
definitely
hear
from
some
of
the
protesters.
I
don't
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
either
yep.
B
A
H
Hear
me,
sir:
yes,
sir
okay,
my
name
is
Ronnie.
Chows
I
spoke
at
the
last
meetings
and
when
I
got
home,
my
wife
asked
me
what
I
spoke
about
in
I
told
her,
and
she
said.
Well,
you
forgot
the
life
story
of
what
green
pastures
is
all
about,
but
I
live
at
forty
11
North
skyline,
Avenue
and
green
tested
edition
of
Oklahoma
City
Center
mailing
I'm
a
78
year
old,
100%
disabled
vet,
who
has
lived
in
the
green
pastures
community
for
seventy
two
of
those
year.
H
H
My
aunt
and
uncle
raised
me
across
the
street
on
a
five
acre
tract.
The
history
of
green
pastures
was
named
and
plaited
by
a
Burin
bday
in
1948
in
soap,
lots
of
lands
to
predominantly
African
American
families.
In
those
days
people
grew
and
raise
their
own
food.
There
was
no
electricity.
Water
was
drawn
from
a
well
and
the
restroom
was
an
outhouse
light.
Was
provided
by
cold
or
lanterns
at
night
in
1953,
green
pastures,
progressive
Club
was
organized
and
started
planning
for
growth
and
development
of
the
black
American
community.
H
The
business
district
in
fact
was
established
immediately
around
the
corner
from
the
plot
of
land
were
discussing
in
1954
green
pastures,
grade-school
North,
East
40th,
a
written
post
road
was
open
and
county.
Commissioner
ralph
aid,
they're
working
with
the
progress
club
made
that
happen
in
1957
green
pastures,
were
the
next
by
the
city
of
Oklahoma
City
in
1959,
black
students
from
green
pastures
were
bused
to
integrate,
starts,
went
to
high
school
in
Spencer
proper
in
1964
green
pastures
branch
application
for
the
admission
to
the
n-double-a-cp
was
accepted
in
1969
June
force
being
passive.
H
Aggressive
Club
received
certification
reincorporation
from
the
Secretary
of
State
John
Rogers
state
of
Oklahoma
emails
and
Porter
filed
the
papers
for
cost
of
$2
I,
currently
serve
as
the
president
of
the
green
pastures,
progressive
Club,
proudly
1966
I
was
recruited
by
Clara
Luper
to
join
her
sit-in
demonstration
at
Katz's,
drugstore
and
Johnny
Brown
stores
in
Oklahoma
City
over
the
years
I
have
personally
witnessed
and
experienced
damages
injuries,
mobile-home
movements
and
debriefs.
Some
high
winds
has
cost
in
people's
homes
and
lives
and
stop
last
Levenberg.
B
H
B
H
And
I
refer
back
to
the
gentleman
that
said,
he
needed
something
more
firm
in
terms
of
time
but
time
as
far
as
strong
winds,
it
could
be
a
year.
We
could
have
a
strong
wind
storm
and
the
same
thing
could
happen.
The
mobile
home
could
be
uprooted.
So
in
that
respect
you
know
it's
very
questionable
for
me.
I'm.
D
A
I
This
is
we
say:
y'all
are
my
friends.
His
family
and
I
can
say
a
little
bit
about
them,
so
I'm
not
there
for
about
six
years
and
I,
don't
understand
what
the
judgment
we're
talking
about
this
family,
if
you
probably
I
mean
in
the
something
can
happen
about
the
sartatia
one
thing,
but
they're
a
good
family.
They
are
very
respectful
family.
So
if
you,
some
ones
are
worried
about
that,
so
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
is
a
very
good
following
so
very,
very,
very
responsible
and
they're
distinct.
C
A
I
believe
he's
stoked
on
that.
I
think
I
asked
that
question
at
the
last
meeting
and
he
said
that
there
were
some.
You
know
within
a
few
miles,
but
there
weren't
in
the
immediate
area
and
the
unfavorable
conditions
in
the
staff
proportion
of
the
therapy.
There
does
not
appear
to
be
mobile
homes
in
the
immediate
vicinity.
I
think
that
confirms
what
was
your
child
said
at
the
last
meeting,
I
mean
I
kind
of
voiced.
My
concerns
I
kind
of
echo.
Mr.
A
Philips
concerns
I,
don't
know
how
this
keeps
the
statutory
conditions
for
variance
I,
don't
know
how
it's
a
peculiar
piece
of
property,
how
there's
an
unnecessary
hardship?
You
know
I've
in
the
past,
we've
done
some
of
these,
where
we've
corrected
them
for
maybe
a
year
while
you're
constructing
a
house
and
with
the
understanding
that
it'll
be
removed,
whatever
the
permanent
structures
built
or
something
like
that.
But
here
I
don't
see
that
and
I
just
don't
see
how
this
hits
the
statutory
elements
so
I
currently
can't
see
it
cannot
support
it.
A
F
A
A
A
C
A
A
E
We
have
the
two
sides
that
are
enclosed
two
sides
that
are
open
in
the
roof
on
it.
Basically
we're
just
wanting
to
get
approval
to
finish
what
we
started.
We
had
got
an
original
permit
for
our
port
that
was
approved
by
the
city
and
we're
trying
to
do
exactly
what
you
know.
What
we
had
asked
for
just
for
some
reason
got
stopped.
That's
what
we
had
already
started.
It
again.
E
I've
had
an
engineer
come
out
since
the
first
carrying
we
had
inspected
the
the
slab
or
the
flooring
said
it
was
a
fine
for
the
building
or
structure
that
we
put
up
and
I
said.
We
haven't
done
anything
else
since
then,
because
you
know
we've
been
stops
that
we
haven't
progressed
it
at
all,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
okay
to
go
ahead
and
go
forward,
and
you
know
finish
our
carport.
The
way
we
started.
Basically,
all
we
have
left
to
do
is
pour
an
approach
and
add
a
breezeway.
A
Mr.
Davis,
you
help
you
understand
the
permitting
process.
I
see
the
permit
does
attach
to
the
occupation
is
dated
October
11th
2019
and
you
first
came
before
us,
and
September
is
2019,
so
I
the
first
time,
I've
I,
think
I'm
falling
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
recall
this
not
having
a
permit
additionally
that
correct
or
incorrect
understanding
that.
E
Is
correct,
sir?
We
first
started
building
going
to
build
a
building
and
we
did
not
have
a
permit,
so
we
changed
it
to
do.
A
carport
and
I
came
down
to
the
city
permanent
office
and
got
a
permit
before
we
progressed
anymore.
So
we
didn't
do
anything.
Patronage,
no
stopped
us
for
not
having
a
permit.
We
didn't
do
anything
else
until
I
had
to
read
out
the
apartment
and
got
approval
for
a
carport.
A
F
A
A
E
Well,
obviously,
the
the
sidewalls
one
of
the
things
are
asking
me
to
do
was
put
brick
pipe
it
up
and
in
either
wood,
siding
or
stucco
I
believe
is
not
what
they're
asking
for
I
mean
I
can
do
that
I,
don't
understand
the
sort
of
break,
because
it's
a
six-foot
tall
stocky
behind
that
you're,
not
even
gonna,
see
the
parchment
brick
anyways
on
the
street
or
in
this
person
I.
Don't
understand
that
part
of
it,
but
I
mean
it's.
E
One
of
the
things
is
you
tell
me:
I
need
to
put
foot
siding
on
it
to
try
to
make
your
move.
I
guess
appeasing
to
my
neighborhood
and
I
definitely
can
do
that.
I
think
the
other
thing
about
the
foundation
I
just
don't
know,
obviously
how
much
that's
going
to
cost
me
to
do
something
like
that
is
that
steel,
piers
II
it
has
several
steel,
steel,
piers
in
it
and
all
the
weight
spots
of
the
structure,
so
I'm
hoping
also
I'm
asking
for
today-
is
that
you
guys.
E
A
A
However,
I
think
these
protests
are
applicable
before
this
was
converted
to
a
carport
and
whatever
this
was
an
accessory
structure.
So
now
that
if
the
carport
I
mean
I,
think
the
main
protest
is
just
five
of
this
and
I,
don't
think
that's
an
issue
before
the
board
is
any
longer
and
so
we're
strictly
looking
at
the
foundation
of
the
fighting
issues.
D
B
F
F
The
structure
in
question
is
approximately
17
to
18
feet
in
height
and
36
feet
in
length.
The
average
side
of
an
interstate
billboard
is
14
by
48
when
I
look
to
the
south
of
my
patio,
so
I
see
his
trucks
are
barely
near
the
size
of
an
interstate
billboard.
The
only
thing
missing
is
the
advertisement
at
the
September
25th
Board
of
Adjustment
hearing
I
showed
the
board
pictures
of
the
structure
showing
just
how
grossly
out
of
proportion.
This
structure
is
in
relation
to
the
neighborhood.
F
We
have
building
codes
for
reason,
and
this
is
one
of
them.
There
is
a
proper
way
to
build
an
accessory
building
and
that
is
to
apply
for
a
building
permit.
To
be
sure,
the
structure
follows
all
relevant
codes
at
the
Board
of
Adjustment
meeting
on
September
25th,
the
property
owner
knew
and
acknowledged.
He
should
have
gotten
the
building
permit.
He
did
not
have
you
done
so
age,
14
663.
Would
not
be
on
the
agenda
now.
F
F
Therefore,
every
this
variance
be
denied
otherwise
you're
compromising
your
codes
by
letting
someone
put
up
a
structure
intended
to
be
an
accessory
building
and
then
saying,
oh
I
didn't
get
a
permit
so
now
I'm
going
to
call
it
a
carport.
This
is
anything
but
a
carport.
It's
an
unfinished
accessory
building
period.
A
C
B
F
D
B
A
It
cannot
be
a
detriment
to
the
public
good
or
impair
this
post
as
an
attentive,
coach
and
I.
Think
that's.
What's
particularly
not
satisfied
in
this
case
is
the
public
good
element
and
also
the
intent
of
the
code.
I.
Don't
think
that
if
they
attend
to
the
code
to
maybe
attach
something
that
otherwise
would
not
be
permissible
and
then
now
all
of
a
sudden
it's
permissible,
even
if
you
know,
maybe
you
could
have
it
or
prevent
that
now
it
complies
with
the
code.
A
I,
don't
think
that
complies
with
the
intent
of
the
code
and
it's
certainly
not
the
minimum
necessary
to
mediate
an
unnecessary
hardship.
So
I
can't
support
the
application.
But
that
says
there
are
only
three
board
members
voting
on
this,
and
so
any
vote
would
need
to
be
unanimous.
So
I'll
say
that
at
the
access
board.
C
To
say,
for
the
purposes
of
the
record,
this
was
Monica
a
bar
again,
I
think,
one
of
the
reasons
that
I
can't
get
on
board
with
this
is
in
addition
to
what
you
said
and
is
that,
if
the
building
department
still
does
not
believe
that
the
foundation
is
I
mean
there's
a
reason
we
have
those
in
it.
Safety
and
you
know,
carport-
has
the
ability
to
you
know
blow
away
just
like
we
were
talking
about
before
and
cause
damage
into.
C
B
A
And
I
will
say:
I
do
you
know
what
transpired
wasn't
perfect
and
you
know
getting
a
permit
and
thinking
he
could
continue
building
you
know
it's
not
perfect
and
I
certainly
feel
for
the
applicant,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
entire
hardship
here
self-imposed
by
building
this
large
structure
without
getting
a
permit
at
the
beginning.
So
I
kind
of
rest
a
little
bit
easier
with
that
fact.
But
I
can't
make
a
motion
so
I
don't
know
if
anyone
wanted
to
make
a
motion
or
has
any
more
comments
or
questions.
J
E
Apologize,
this
is
Mar.
Davis
am
I
allowed
to
never
response
to
the
complaint.
Yes,
okay!
Thank
you
again.
This
is
Mark
Davis.
Basically,
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
you
guys
are
talking
about.
I
mean
I'm,
not
denying
any
of
that.
Obviously,
that
I
tried
to
you
know
to
begin
a
building
without
a
permit.
I've
already
acknowledged
that
the
person
theme
that
mr.
Daphne
was
talking
about.
I
knowledge
it
to
you
guys
there
in
front
of
you.
It's
not
I'm,
not
trying
to
you
know
I'm
not
trying
to
get
around
anything.
E
Basically,
it
just
comes
back
to
we're
trying
to
find
you
know
a
way
to
get
our
trailer
out.
The
house
and
well
I'm,
not
gonna,
build
apart
I
jumped
in
there
now,
because
it's
locked
up,
but
you
ever
get
our
travel
trailer
there
out
of
the
house,
so
we
tried
to
compromise.
That's
why
I
went
down
to
the
city.
I
was
there
for
over
four
and
a
half
hours
at
the
permit
office
talking
with
the
people
there
to
try
to
make
sure
that
what
we
were
doing
was
going
to
be
okay
and
and
legal.
E
So
that's
why
I
went
back
down
there
to
get
the
permit.
I
went
down
there,
but
the
engineer
finding
out.
What
can
we
do
to
get
this
so
so
begin?
You
know
at
least
get
it
under
cover
at
our
house,
and
this
is
the
stuff
that
we
came
up.
There's
a
lot
of
the
stuff,
the
ideas
or
not
a
lot
of
them.
Some
of
the
ideas
were
actually
people
from
the
permit
office
that
they
told
me
if
I
attach
to
the
house.
I
would
be
able
to
put
the
other
side
on
again.
E
E
You
know,
so
we
can
park
our
traffic
trailer
back
behind
our
fans
at
our
yard.
I
know
mr.
Downey
doesn't
like
the
looks
of
it
so
say
we
good
good
I'm,
stuck
on
a
Woodstock,
get
on
it
to
make
it
more
like
a
house
structure.
I
guess
you
would
say,
even
though
I
will
also,
but
was
there
are
several
buildings
in
our
neighborhood
that
are
made
of
metal
just
like
mine,
they're,
not
always
mines.
On
my
mark,
there
is
one
that
this
installers
mine
and
actually
has
a
roof
like
mind.
A
A
Yeah
I
still
say
my
my
prior
position,
not
concerned,
but
if
this
gets
approved,
you
know
what
would
get
approved
in
the
future.
You
finding
this
as
authority
or
precedent
and
I
again
I
subsidized
with
your
position,
the
appellants
position,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
just
the
powers
that
we're
vested
by
the
City
Council
and
by
the
state
legislature
are
pretty
limited
and
I.
A
A
D
A
D
J
A
F
A
A
F
F
A
F
F
D
A
C
F
J
A
A
And
Mike
did
you
get
too?
Did
you
I
guess
here
the
presentation
we're
on
case
number
six
now
I,
don't
know
verse.
Six
now
yeah,
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you're
you're
joining
us
board
members.
If
there
are
any
other
questions
or
college
that
this
applicant
feel
free
to
ask
them
it's
not
at
all
check
and
see
30
protesters.
B
A
Hearing
none
I'll
get
my
call
this
out.
There
I
think
it's
a
peculiar
property
I
think
it's
sort
of
akin
to
having
another
house.
It's
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
since
that
as
well,
but
sort
of
a
kids
having
another
house
on
this
small
parcel
that
doesn't
really
offend
the
intent
of
the
code
here.
I,
don't
know,
I
can
support
this
application.
A
D
F
F
A
A
B
L
A
L
G
Have
got
a
box?
Can
you
hear
me,
yeah,
Laura,
okay,
well,
I,
appreciate
everybody
being
able
to
do
this
via
phone
and
keep
keep
our
businesses
moving
in
the
right
direction.
So
what
we
have
here,
I'm
going
to
make
sure
if
I'd
get
the
exhibit?
Not
only
will
you
have
something
that
would
have
been
provided
in
the
applications,
but
just
for
ease
of
this
conversation,
I
produced
an
exhibit
booklets
with
the
pages,
all
of
which
have
numbers
on
the
bottom
right-hand
portion,
and
it
starts
with
what
looks
to
be
a
at
the
site
plan.
G
G
What
we've
got
is
a
50-foot
maximum
height
as
it
relates
to
not
des
resins
in
this
area.
What
I
try
to
do
in
the
sine
cases
have
a
sign
study
produced
before
we
ever
file
an
application
to
allow
I
think
the
visual
to
show
me
whether
I
believe
we
actually
have
the
elements
necessary
to
to
make
the
various
applications
before
we
file
it.
We've
done
that
year
and
what
you'll
see
is
with
the
new
interstate
40
and
how
the
Western
Avenue
bridge
cuts
fairly
high
across
the
highway
there.
G
What
you'll
see
on
page
2
is
the
sign
at
90
feet.
So
what
we
believe
our
hardship
to
be
is
at
the
50
foot.
The
sign
is
essentially
not
visible.
You
might
be
able
to
see
a
piece
at
the
top
depending
on
how
far
back
you
are,
but
for
the
purposes
and
the
tents
are
being
able
to
read
the
sign.
It
is
not
visible.
So
if
you
put
through
it
clear,
the
pages
you'll
see
have
both
the
eastbound
and
westbound
traffic.
That's
the
sign
in
visible.
G
What
you're
seeing
here
is
that
the
93
request
and,
in
addition
to
the
hardship
we've
got
some
unique
issues,
not
only
the
Western
Avenue
Bridge,
but
ODOT
in
this
particular
location
has
installed
a
different
fence
pipe
than
they
typically
do.
It's
that
black
vinyl
and
the
way
that
that
black
vinyl
fence
hit
on
the
westbound
traffic.
It
serves
as
a
almost
a
sight
proof
fence.
So
you
see
that
you
can
barely.
G
You
know
we're
at
the
very
bottom
of
that
fence,
with
our
90
feet,
so
I
think
the
hardship
is
that
it
would
prohibit
the
visibility
in
terms
of
the
conditions
that
it's
julier
I,
think
the
Western
Avenue
Bridge
being
at
the
height
that
it
is
higher
than
I
think
what
it
used
to
be
as
well
as
that
chain
leak.
The
vinyl
chain-link
fence
is
something
that
is
peculiar
relief
granted
would
not
cause
the
painful
detriment
to
the
public
good.
G
As
you're
aware
as
you
drive
around
the
city
and
see
these
billboards,
one
of
the
functions
of
these
go
board's,
is
they
work
with
emergency
management
services
for
public
service
announcements,
amber
alert,
spoiler
alerts,
weather
advisories.
Now
on
this
time
you
know
the
the
kovat
19
advisories.
Well,
if
you
have
this
up
to
50
feet,
that's
a
lot
in
the
code
that
is
altogether
unreadable.
So
we
think
that
certainly
the
the
public
good
wouldn't
be
impacted,
but
rather
granting
the
variance
would
would
be
serving
the
public
good.
G
Finally,
whether
or
not
the
variance
of
granted
was
the
minimum
would
be
the
minimum
necessary
I.
Think
if
you
look
at
these
exhibits,
I
would
submit
that
it
is
the
minimum
necessary
at
that
90
feet,
especially
if
you
look
at
page
5
and
page
2,
that
90
feet
is
the
absolute
shortest
that
gives
you
full
read
of
that
board.
G
Additionally,
all
other
requirements
are
met
in
terms
of
size
location.
It's
simply
that
the
height
based
upon
how
that
Western
Avenue
bridge
now
it
creates
this
hardship,
necessitating
the
bearings
to
the
height.
So
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have,
and
we
would
ask
for
your
approval
and.
A
So,
mr.
box,
a
merchant-
yes,
your
question
that
you
probably
anticipated
from
the
staff
report
discussed
this
out.
This
side
is
along
the
downtown
Phoenix
highway
area
along
I-40
and
yeah
in
that
area.
New
billboards,
arts
are
prohibited,
and
so
yeah
I
I
read
that
essay
that
the
city
doesn't
want
those
words
there
at
least
not
any
new
billboards
at
all
and
I
realize
this
isn't
a
new
one.
This
is
essentially
just
making
an
existing
one
higher,
but
consistent
with
what
I
see
as
the
intent
of
that
prohibition.
A
G
Sure
so
this
location
actually
came
before
the
Board
of
Adjustment
years
ago,
in
the
form
of
a
variance
to
the
prohibition
that
you're
just
referring
to
to
allow
an
existing
sign
to
be
moved
and
as
a
sign
that
gets
moved.
It
was
considered
a
new
sign
and
therefore
violated
that
prohibition
I,
was
not
involved
at
the
time.
The
lawyer
that
did
it
at
the
time
I,
don't
think,
was
aware
of
the
height
issue
that
was
going
to
exist
with
the
Western
Avenue
Bridge,
and
so
they
didn't
touch
on
the
height
of
it.
G
Well
now
we
have
a
sign
that
was
built
and
now
Western
Avenue
Bridge
is
that
at
a
elevation
that
I,
don't
think,
was
anticipated,
and
so
that
sign
that
was
just
forcibly
permitted
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment
through
a
variant
has
now
become
blocked,
and
so
it's
just
was
in
the
first
instance.
I
would
understand
the
point
that
you're
making
I
think
it's
a
good
point,
except
for
this
has
been
debated.
Whether
or
not
a
sign
was
appropriate
or
not.
G
D
A
K
K
I
believe
the
first
comment
was
made
was
correct
that
you
know
the
current
sign
code
doesn't
allow
for
it,
but
due
to
the
overlay
district
and
the
overall
height
you're,
looking
at
doubling
the
size
from
50
feet
to
90
feet
also
I
point
out
that
what
was
adopted
in
planned,
OKC
back
in
2015
and
I
quote,
restrict
new
billboards
and
eliminate
or
reduce.
The
number
of
existing
billboards
was
an
extra
reading
from
plan
OKC
also
yeah
in
regards
to
the
public
service
messages.
K
I'm
sure
that
Whistler
would
would
would
run
public
service
messages,
but
to
be
clear,
the
full
intent
here
is
to
tell
it
to
advertisers
for
profits.
So
I
think
I
think
that
they're
in
essence,
asking
for
a
variance
from
the
existing
sign
code
and
and,
in
my
opinion,
doesn't
meet
all
the
statutory
requirements
and
there's
because
there
could
be
an
argument
that
it
created
its
own
his
own
hardship.
D
D
G
G
privet
can
speak
to
that,
as
Lamar
has
become
a
fixture
at
Planning
Commission's
over
the
last
two
or
three
months
in
which
there
probably
been
seven
or
eight
separate
applications
of
which
new
billboards
have
been
permitted
in
the
bars
automatically
fighting
those
filing
lawsuits
trying
to
get
those
stocked,
they
have
been
unsuccessful,
and
so
this
certainly
is
a
variance
to
a
code.
This
isn't
a
variance
to
whether
our
sign
is
allowed
here.
This
is
simply
a
variance
to
allow
a
sign
that
is
legally
permitted
and
there
to
be
visible
because
of
conditions
that
exist.
G
K
K
A
B
A
A
A
The
sign
will
be
built
in
a
different
spot
and
I
think
your
staff
will
confirm
it,
as
that
report
confirms
that
a
new
sign
permit
is
required
and
as
a
non-conforming
use,
your
ordinance
is
also
in
the
city
to
not
allow
the
expansion.
You
know
the
upgrading
of
non-conforming
uses,
which
is
what
is
essentially
happening
here,
which
is
also
why
a
new
sign
this
has
to
be
considered
by
this
board
as
a
new
sign
and
a
new
sign
permit,
and
then
essentially,
this
is
a
useful
which
is
prohibited
by
law.
Thank
you.
G
G
Thank
you.
Here's
to
be
changing
his
position
on
what
the
law
is
two
weeks
ago.
He
showed
up
demanding
that
a
client
of
mine
go
to
get
a
variance
from
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
and
now
he's
saying
it's
not
I
would
like
Jada
way,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
variance
previously
granted
runs
with
the
land
and
therefore
the
sign
you're,
really
not
giving
us
a
variance
for
a
new
sign.
The
previous
variance
application
granted
that
variances,
as
you
know,
run
with
the
land.
So
I
don't
believe
that
to
be
an
issue.
A
Back
in
the
same
location-
and
it
was
previously
granted
the
variance
for
that
location,
then
that
takes
the
variance
from
the
location
off
the
table
here,
and
this
is
strictly
a
variance
to
the
height
of
the
sign.
You
think
it's
not
a
non-conforming
sign
if
it
has
a
variance
for
that
location,
yeah.
D
A
Is
really
picking
again
I,
just
I
do
want
to
make
it
clear
in
light
of
that
comment
that,
under
paragraph
two
of
your
staff
report
summary
of
application
application,
it
says,
additionally,
this
site
is
located
within
the
downtown
scenic
highway
area
along
I-40,
which
we're
going
to
see
billboards.
Although
it
is
currently
existing,
it
must
be
completely
removed
to
increase
the
height.
G
A
We
don't
have
a
request
that
has
anything
to
do
with
a
new
sign,
and
so
today
the
vote
will
not
be
up
or
down
on
a
new
sign,
and
if
that
causes
problems
for
the
applicant
down
the
line,
then
they
will
have
to
address
that
down
the
line.
But
that's
not
before
us
today.
The
only
thing
before
us
today
is
the
height,
and
so
that's
what
we
are
concerned
with
mr.
box.
Did
you
have
any
more
comments
before
the
board?
Deliberate,
no.
G
That's
it
I,
just
I,
really
look
at
the
sign
study.
I,
think
the
sign
study
puts
it
in
a
visual
manner
that
you
can
see.
Even
though
the
number
looks
big
at
90
feet,
it
will
be
read
above
the
the
grade
of
the
roadway
in
the
same
manner
as
it
would
be
if
it
was
50
feet.
If
we
didn't
have
this
massive
Western
Avenue
Bridge
issue,
okay,.
C
L
C
G
That's
a
great
question.
So
if
you
turn
to
turn
to
page
2
that
little
packet
that
I
put
together,
so
you
can
see
there
at
90
it
it's
just
fully
visible
at
that
90
I
mean
maybe
a
couple
feet,
but
because
of
that
fridge
it
it's
blocked.
Once
we
drop
below
90
understanding
that
there's
no
way
that
the
number
looks
big
and
I
had
a
similar
case
for
love
out
of
I-40
and
I.
G
Think
it's
a
Choctaw
Road
and
there
was
like
a
hundred
and
ten
feet
and
there
we
had
some
bridges
and
other
things
that
and
so
I
know
it's
very
difficult,
especially
when
we're
here
like
on
the
phone.
But
the
number
seems
big.
But
if
you
look
at
those
exhibits,
there's
really
nothing
less
than
90.
That
gets
us
the
visibility
for
the
Sun.
D
G
A
Okay,
Sadie,
if
you
could
view
all
the
other
phones,
others
the
board
members
I'll
begin
my
comments.
I
keep
going
back
to
my
prior
voice
said:
I
started:
do
it,
which
is
just
I,
don't
think
that
the
city
really
wants
fine
is
this
area,
and
that
is
evidenced
by
the
prohibition
against
new
signs.
You
can
certainly
come
in
and
try
to
get
a
variance
for
that
and
get
every
sign,
but
still
I
think
that
that
would
still
be
the
exception
to
the
rule
that
the
city
doesn't
want
new
signs
here
and
consistent
with
that.
D
A
A
Would
it
be
a
billboard
for
the
dilapidated
building
or
whatever
it
is
so
I
do
think
the
idea
was
to
focus
driver's
attention
not
on
those
side
streets,
let's
go
on
the
highway
and
keep
that
looking
clean
so
and
I
think
that
this
variance
would
be
contrary
to
that
intent
as
well.
So
I
can't
support
it,
but
I
could
be
outvoted.
D
D
D
J
B
D
B
A
D
J
F
F
A
B
A
And
how
it
operates
if
that's
okay
with
everybody,
mr.
Previn
and
I,
were
probably
on
the
board
for
the
last
one
of
these
okay,
I
can't
speak
for
the
rest
of
us
sure
go
ahead.
Oh
before
you
start.
What's
the
difference
between
the
two
applications,
it's
just
two
different
addresses
that
are
adjacent
or
what's.
A
Excuse
me:
this
is
Charley
Thomason
Maxwell,
Supply,
Company,
3300,
West,
Reno,
okay,
I,
just
let
you
know
I
guess
we're
tied
together
with
the
other
property
that
Michael
Michael
is
doing
this
on
our
behalf
and
if
there's
any
questions
about
3300,
West
Reena
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
more
or
go
into
anything.
I,
don't
know
anything
about
the
other
property
I
think
it's
two
separate
projects.
A
B
A
I
just
was
wondering
if
maybe
we
could
combine
the
presentation,
but
if
you
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
possess
in
the
first
case
we
will.
We
will
hear
that
mr.
Paige
okay,
thank
you.
You
know.
Basically,
what
we're
doing
here
is
trying
to
secure
the
property.
There
is
already
an
existing
fence
line
up.
We
install
the
electric
guard
dog,
which
is
our
primary
product
behind
the
existing
fence.
A
So
for
1.3
seconds,
there's
no
energy
on
the
interior
line.
What's
that
energizer
is
loaded
mechanically,
it
can
no
longer
hold
any
more
energy,
so
it
releases
the
energy
down
the
line
back
to
the
alarm
panel
and
the
alarm
panel
is
looking
for
a
nice
clean
return
in
an
all-world
nice.
Clean
return
is
two
thousand
bolts
or
more.
If
it's
less
than
two
thousand
volts,
the
alarm
starts
a
countdown.
A
If
we
get
five
consecutive
negative
returns,
which
is
about
seven
seconds,
we
set
the
alarm
off
audibly
on
the
site
and
silently
back
to
our
call
center,
and
we
go
through
a
call
list.
So
whoever's
number
one
on
my
call
list.
Let's
say
it's
the
chairman
I'm
going
to
call
the
chairman
at
2:30
in
the
morning
and
tell
him
where
the
break
is.
We
can
measure
the
breaks
down
to
about
10
P.
We
also
incorporate
cameras
with
these
devices,
so
at
2:30
in
the
morning
you
don't.
A
Your
Wi-Fi
up
there
running
draw
up
that
fence
line
and
look
at
it
and
go
hey.
We
had
a
big
thunderstorm
in
Oklahoma
City
took
out,
took
out
that
big
oak
tree
on
the
corner
drops
right
on
top
of
the
fence
line.
That's
why
the
alarm
is
going
it
down
and
take
care
of
all
this
in
the
morning
or
I
got
five
guys
on
a
flatbed
truck
kind
of
hold
of
my
fence
they're.
Robbing
me
blind.
Please
call
the
local
police
department,
that's
called
a
verified
alarm.
The
police,
love
verified,
alarms.
A
Committed
and
probably
where
exactly
where
it
is,
and
how
many
people
they're
going
to
engage
when
they
get
there.
So
that's
what
we
do.
We
operate
under
the
international
electric
electric
electric
technical
commission
standards,
six
out
of
three
three
five,
two,
seven
six
we've
got.
You
know
pretty
close
to
thirty
installations,
all
over
Oklahoma
City,
securing
properties,
and
we've
also
been
in
this
overlay
districts
before
to
do
this.
So
that's
what
we
do
and
that's
how
it
operates,
and
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
for
members.
Any
questions
for
comments.
A
Yes,
I
think
we
beat
you
up
a
little
bit
on
the
last
one
that
that
made
things
more
clear
on
this
one,
so
I
could
give
a
board
with
this
I
I
believe
for
the
last
one.
We
might
have
entertained
the
idea
of
doing
this
for
only
a
period
of
time,
just
in
case
this
area
develops
over
the
next
decade,
since
the
variance
does
carry
with
the
land.
A
Would
you
be
open
to
that
or
is
what
I
mean?
How
long
has
this
business
been
there
and
looking
for
something?
That's
gonna
last
forever,
it's
10
or
15
years
acceptable,
a
timeline
that
long
is
fine,
I
mean
with
when
the
property,
if
it
ever
gets,
redeveloped
and
I'm
sure
that's
the
intent
of
the
city
with
the
city's
plan.
For
that
to
happen,
it's
going
to
be
developed
in
such
a
manner
that
this
kind
of
security
is
no
longer
applicable
to
that
particular
type
of
business.
A
These
are
just
really
the
types
of
businesses
that
we
that
we
secure
once
there's
a
redevelopment
down
there.
It's
you
know,
you
start
going
into
multi
use
zoning
types
with
with
attached
residences,
above
retail
things
like
that,
it's
just
not
an
applicable
application
and
we
just
wouldn't
be
there
anymore.
It's
just
this
particular
type
of
business
that
has
large
amounts
of
inventory
that
are
stored
outdoors.
That
invites
crime
and
that's
basically,
what
we're
protecting
here.
A
A
If
mr.
Payne,
if
you
want
to
just
incorporate
your
comments
from
the
prior
application,
yes,
sir
they'll
be
fine.
Unless
anyone
has
any
other
questions,
it's
basically
a
duplicate.
Okay,
it
seems
the
same
to
me
and
I.
Don't
see
these
different
considerations
that
were
immediately
apparent
to
me
so
I
don't
have
any
questions
board
members,
any
questions
or
comments.
A
D
A
Pleased
with
this
opportunity
for
us
to
fortify
one
of
their
fences
and
let
you
know
that
we've
installed
this
product
around
our
five
acre
facility
in
the
Tulsa
market
and
crime,
went
to
zero
when
we
got
it
up
and
turn
it
on.
So
if
this
follows
through,
like
last
one
I
look
forward
to
our
crime
being
zero
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
Correct.
A
C
A
A
A
D
C
A
E
A
A
C
A
C
C
J
C
C
A
A
A
There's
been
one
submitted
that
are
included
in
our
board
packet
and
available
online.
If
you
need
to
see
it,
but
there
was
a
concern:
is
additional
traffic
vetting
potential
renters
communications
about
basically
it's
communications
to
the
rhetoric
about
the
school
across
the
street
and
then
also
in
general,
an
objection
that
we
hear
a
lot
at
these
cases,
how
it's
not
really
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
atmospheres,
because
you're
having
short
term
rentals?
So
if
you
wanted
to
address
any
of
those
concerns,
we'd.
C
As
far
as
as
far
as
the
traffic
goes,
the
thought
is
it's
already
on
a
busy
street.
It's
on
Villa
Avenue.
There
isn't.
There
is
a
school
across
the
street
which
also
causes
traffic.
As
far
as
the
names
of
neighborhood
I
doubt
seriously,
people
would
even
know
if
someone
was
living
there
or
renting
there.
C
There's
there's
some
pretty
strict
rules
on
the
Airbnb
website
that
and
you
can
actually
review
the
person.
That's
going
to
Rin
it
as
well
as
them
reviewing
the
person.
That's
renting
it
out,
so
I,
don't
intend,
there's
lots
of
strict
rules
and
I
don't
intend
the
rent
to
anybody
that
doesn't
meet
the
requirements
and
the
reviews.
A
Okay,
I
think
I,
don't
have
any
objections
with
this
application.
I,
don't
particularly
give
it
looks
like
there's
player
parking.
It
doesn't
look
like
so
used
as
a
short-term
rental
would
be
anything
in
addition
to
something
that
is
the
driving
or
the
parking
or
anything.
The
traffic
would
be
more
than
its
typical
use
as
a
rental,
property
or
home.
A
So
for
these
reasons,
I
think
I.
Could
sport
to
a
cetacean,
I
think
one
question
for
me
would
be
in
the
amount.
Todd
must
be
my
only
place
on
it
and
I.
Think,
given
the
federal
school
across
the
street,
maybe
appeared
in
two
years
just
to
make
sure
that
there
aren't
any
issues
that
are
unexpected
related
to
that
school
I
could
get
on
board
for
around
two
years,
but
I
could
be
convinced,
shorter
or
longer,
I.
Think
I.
J
B
A
A
D
C
C
A
B
L
B
A
A
L
L
She
wants
to
say
that
it's
my
main
house,
I
would
not
see,
will
be
out
aware
all
the
time
because
it's
mine,
main
house,
like
I,
said
I
will
rent
you
just
for
weekend
all
the
time.
But
when
my
kids,
it's
on
vacation,
oh
we
have
games
on
I,
don't
think
it
will
be
a
big
problem.
Also.
My
wondered
is
next
door.
L
L
A
A
L
A
You're
you're
aware
that
if
we
cramp
the
variance
and
a
special
exception
for
that
I
think
the
concern
is
that
there's
nothing
that
would
binds
you
to
only
writing
on
weekends
and
so
I.
Think
some
of
the
concern
would
be
that
you
sit
down.
The
line
might
want
to
rent
for
that
every
day
of
the
week,
which
would
change
the
application
substantially.
L
A
L
A
A
Will
say
for
the
for
the
board:
I
think
this
will
be
the
first
one
in
HP
that
we
granted
both
the
special
exception
and
the
variance
yeah.
Usually
it's
just
the
special
exception,
but
not
the
variance
to
the
holder
occupy
requirement,
and
so
I
think
that
doesn't
particularly
troubled
me
on
this
one.
Just
because
that's
a
location
right
on
23rd,
Street
right
next
to
dates
are
tacos
I
think
that
to
be
a
little
bit
different
than
a
half,
it's
just
in
the
middle
of
mr.
Parker,
or
something
like
that.
A
So
you
know
those
are
my
initial
thoughts.
I
know
HP,
initially
requested
or
recommended
denial,
but
I
watched
that
proceeding
and
they
did
it
without
comment
and
I
think
it
was
just
because
it
was
not
owner
occupied
of
it,
and
so
they
just
recommended
denial
for
that
reason
alone,
without
much
analysis.
A
So
without
more
from
them
on
that,
given
that
this
is
on
43rd,
it's
an
extremely
close
call
for
me,
but
just
a
location
for
me
makes
this
unique
big
right
on
23rd
Street,
and
if
this
were
a
couple
you
know,
hair
cells
are
meant
to
park
or
something
it
might
change
the
announces
for
me
a
little
bit.
But
those
are
my
initial
comments.
A
L
A
L
L
A
So
you
get
a
permit
from
the
city
and
also
coming
again
and
what's
the
City
Council
changes
the
code.
We
get
a
permit
to
get
a
another
special
special
session
and
a
variance
from
us,
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it'll
be
for
a
gear
in
the
future.
I
think
for
these
were
just
doing
a
shorter
amount
of
time,
just
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
issues
and
just
to
see
how
it
goes,
and
then
we
might
do
it
for
another
year.
We
might
do
it
for
a
longer
period
of
time.
A
F
A
A
Approximately
so
we'd
have
two
photos.
This
have
an
order
from
the
board
and
then
there's
an
appeal
period
for
ten
days.
Anyone
can
appeal:
that's
it's
just
a
party
and
after
that
appeal
period.
That's
when
you
could
get
your
permit
from
the
city
and
then
should
start
renting
at
that
point,
so
I'll
probably
plant
for
around
two
weeks,
but
that
also
assumes
that
the
boards
could
approved
application,
which
we
haven't
done
yet.
L
J
A
Understand
I
mean
there's
not
that
I
mean
that's
kind
of
out
of
our
control.
All
we
could
do
is
vote
on
what's
before
us.
If
you
don't
plan
on
renting
out
the
property
any
time
soon,
I
guess
one
thing
you
could
do
is
continue
your
application
before
a
couple
of
months
so
that
you
don't
have
a
ruling
from
the
board,
but
with
that
you
would
not
be
able
to
rent
to
anyone
until
your
application
is
approved,
but
the
board
wouldn't
act
on
your
application
until
you
know
it.
So
you
had
that
motion.
A
F
C
D
A
A
A
C
C
C
We're
responsible
homeowners.
We've
lived
in
the
neighborhood
since
1985
and
we
are
very
concerned
with
keeping
our
neighborhood
nice
and
to
us.
Nice
means
not
too
many
vehicles
around
and
well-maintained
lawns
and
surroundings.
We
want
to
keep
the
area
as
nice
as
it's
been
through
the
years
the
yard
the
lawn
has
been
and
will
continue
to
be
professionally
maintained.
C
C
Since
its
inception,
we
live
across
the
street
as
I
said
and
we'll
be
able
to
easily
monitor
and
not
allow
any
activity
that
would
be
disturbing
and
that
information
you
put
in
in
your
thing
for
them
for
the
short-term
rentals
they
yep
you
put
no
parties
allowed
and
then,
if
they
don't
follow
the
rules
that
they
can
be
asked
to
leave
or
stalk
I,
really
feel
like
the
rentals
role
unclean.
Well,
they
won't
be
full-time
and
they
don't
do
for
a
long
time.
C
C
C
The
driveway
is
drugged.
There
will
be
plenty
of
parking
I,
don't
think
it
will
be
a
problem
for
the
neighborhood
fact
I
think
will
be
better
than
having
a
rental
property
where
you
can't
control
the
number
of
cars
and
the
amount
of
people
that
are
living
there.
And
if
you
have
any
questions,
we
will
be
glad
to
try
and
answer.
Oh
I
have
a
couple
of
letters
from
neighbors.
If
you'd
like
to
hear
those
that
are
in
favor
of
what
we're
shooting.
Would
you
like
to
hear
another
Turk
I
think.
B
C
C
L
A
A
A
My
reading
of
these
letters
is
consistent
with
some
that
we
hear,
in
other
cases,
just
certainly
neighbors
that
don't
want
hope
sharing
at
all
in
their
neighborhoods,
and
you
know,
unfortunately,
for
for
those
protestors.
The
City
Council
provided
for
a
way
for
people
to
have
Home
Sharing.
When
this,
when
the
City
Council
could
have
prohibited,
and
so
while
we
analyzed
and
scrutinized
each
application.
B
A
Know
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
wholesale
prohibition
against
Home
Sharing
and
so
the
objections
that
I
see
that
just
want
to
prevent,
sharing
I,
don't
think
that
those
are
defeating
of
an
application
for
my
perspective,
so
I
can
still
support
this
application.
I
think
it
can
meet
all
the
conditions.
I
think
maybe
a
period
of
two
years
in
this
area
is
appropriate
just
to
see
how
it
works
in
this
area.
Well,.
C
C
A
A
And
so-
and
you
know
we
generally,
as
you
probably
heard
this
brother
applications,
we
generally
don't
grant
these
for
for
very
long
periods.
Just
because
we
want
to
see
it's
so
new.
We
want
to
see
how
it
everything
shakes
out.
I
can
get
on
board
with
two
to
three
years:
I,
don't
know
where
the
rest
of
the
board
is
on
this,
but
finally,.