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Description
Meeting of the Oklahoma City Stakeholders Advisory Team Special Meeting - May 29, 2020 - Part 2. Orientation Meeting on development codes update.
A
B
Thank
you,
Lisa
and
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
very
excited
to
get
this
process
going.
I'm.
The
kind
of
guy
that
gets
excited
about
code
updates
and
I
think
that
we
all
must
share
a
little
bit
of
that,
because
we're
all
here
and
so
I
appreciate
your
assistance
and
your
acceptance
of
the
mayor's
invitation.
B
It'll
be
a
thorough
process
and
I'm
excited
that
we
have
so
such
a
good
variety
of
perspectives
and
backgrounds.
I
was
appreciated.
Hearing
all
of
all
of
your
thoughts.
Obviously
we
have
a
lot
to
accomplish,
but
we
are.
We
are
excited
to
be
underway,
so
we
have
a
limited
limited
amount
of
time
today.
This
is
just
our
kickoff
meeting
just
so
that
we
can
get
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit.
I
know
it's
not
ideal.
B
Meeting
like
this,
but
hopefully
at
some
point
we
can
get
together
and
at
least
bump
elbows
and
maybe
shake
hands
at
some
point,
so
that
will
come.
But
in
the
meantime
we'll
do
this
method
and
it
does
have
its
advantages
and
we
can.
We
can
show
you
visuals
and
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
this
project,
so
without
further
ado,
I'll
give
a
brief
intro
into
plan
OKC,
because
it
really
is
the
foundation
of
what
we're
doing
it's.
It's
the
starting
point.
B
B
So
when
we
did
plan
OKC,
we
did
it
just
a
lot
of
all
reach
a
lot
of
surveys,
public
workshops,
you
name
it.
We
did
it
just
to
try
and
get
the
pulse
of
the
community
all
parts
of
the
community.
Many
of
you
were
involved
in
focus
groups
or
workshops
or
some
kind
of
activity
designed
to
get
your
your
feedback,
and
we
came
up
with
what
we
feel
is
a
good
plan,
very
good
plan.
B
In
fact,
it
did
win
a
national
award,
for
it
went
one
the
Daniel
Burnham
award
from
the
American
Planning
Association,
which
is
given
annually
to
the
best
comprehensive
plan,
but,
more
importantly,
it
represents
what
our
community
aspirations
are
and
our
desires
and
what
we
feel
like
needs
to
happen
to
get
there.
So
we
did
a
scenario,
planning
process
which
basically
said
hey.
We
we
need
to
accommodate
a
lot
of
growth,
we're
gonna
fit.
We
need
to
fit
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
into
the
city
over
the
coming
decades.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that?
B
B
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide
Lisa,
so
we
had
some
visuals
that
kind
of
helped
people
understand
what
we
meant
by
that
and
what
what
it
would
mean
and
it's
important
to
realize
in
these
different
scenarios
and
as
we
go
through
this
code,
update
that
you
know
we
did
our
homework.
We
we
did
a
housing
market
study,
retail
market
study
a
whole.
A
B
Of
studies,
including
this
scenarios,
analysis
to
determine
what
the
need
was
and
what
people
actually
wanted,
because
our
goal
was
to
accommodate
everybody's
need.
You
know
the
future
of
our
city.
It
was
made
clear
to
us
that
we
need
to
have
housing,
which
is
a
big
driver
of
land
use
how
land
is
used
in
the
Metro.
In
an
our
city,
we
need
to
have
situations,
housing,
product
that
meets
everybody's
needs,
and
we
have
621
square
miles.
B
We
go
from
very
rural
to
very
urban
and
we
want
to
continue
to
do
that,
and
so
what
you
see
here
is
kind
of
different,
different
ways
of
dividing
up
the
city,
so
to
speak,
to
accommodate
those
different
needs
and
each
one
of
those
accommodates
the
the
housing
types
that
people
wanted,
including
an
especially
scenario
see
which
accommodates
all
the
single-family
homes
that
would
that
were
projected
to
be
needed.
All
the
rural
development
that
was
projected
to
be
needed.
The
key
difference
between
that
and
the
other
scenarios
is
that
it's
just
more
efficient.
B
B
So
what
we
did
is
we
showed
people
different
different,
these
three
scenarios
and
and
how
they
perform.
You
know
we
talked
many
of
you
mentioned
sustainability.
That
was,
of
course,
an
important
part
of
what
we
were
looking
at.
You
know
if
we
were
to
build
more
efficiently.
What
does
what
does
that
do
for
our
bottom
line?
B
B
You
know
better
parks
or
better
transit
or
whatever
it
might
be.
So
I
encourage
you
all
to
look
at
plan.
Okc.
We've
only
got
few
minutes
today.
Just
to
give
you
a
brief
overview,
but
all
of
this
is
in
there
encourage
you
to
go.
Look
at
plan,
okay,
see,
org
and
peruse
that
you
can
download
a
PDF.
You
can
look
at
the
web
version
either
way
you
like,
but
this
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
kind
of
what
the
guts
the
plan
so
to
speak.
B
Are
you
know
if
we
build
the
way,
we
think
we
can
and
have
the
policies
and
the
regulation
is
to
do
it.
We
can
make
everybody
happy.
That
sounds
like
it
sounds
like
pie
in
the
sky,
but
but
we
really
can't
accommodate
all
the
needs
that
we
have
in
the
city
and
at
the
same
time
you
know
reduce
the
amount
of
pollution.
B
So
there's
there
was
the
preference.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
took
a
survey
and
asked
everybody.
You
know
we
once
they
had
been
informed,
attended
workshops.
They
took
this
survey.
We
also
provided
the
survey
outside
the
workshop
with
with
with
some
detailed
information,
so
that
people
could
take
it
after
being
informed
about
kind
of
the
things
I
just
talked
through
and
the
chart
you
just
saw,
and
they
overwhelmingly
preferred
scenario
C,
which
frankly,
was
a
little
bit
of
a
surprise
to
us.
We
thought
we
might
get.
B
We
knowing
that
you
know,
having
done
all
that
outreach
and
receiving
all
that
input.
We
came
up
with
some
some
big
ideas
and
a
land-use
plan
which
really
formed
the
core
of
plan.
Okay,
see
it
was
important
to
our
citizens,
our
residents,
our
businesses
develop
to
develop
a
transportation
system
that
works
for
everyone,
in
other
words,
a
multimodal
system,
so
that
people
can
walk
bike,
ride,
transit
or
drive.
B
B
Community
attractiveness
is
were
very
important.
People
placemaking
and
that'll
be
an
important
theme
as
we
develop
our
code,
thriving
neighborhoods
efficiency,
which
we've
touched
on
and
natural
character,
which
was
also
touched
on
in
some
of
your
comments
being
able
to
preserve
the
natural
resources
not
only
on
the
fringe
of
the
city,
but
in
urban
environments
as
appropriate.
You
know
that
looks
different
in
highly
urban
environments
than
it
does
in
in
suburban
areas
and
we'll
get
into
that
in
detail.
B
But
essentially,
this
is
the
way
that
we
approach
how
land
should
be
used
and
what
at
what
intensity
and
densities
in
the
city-
and
it
really
will
inform
our
our
code,
update
and
really
just
kind
of
provides
guidelines
for
what's
appropriate
and
where-
and
we
have,
you
know-
different
levels,
of
course,
from
rural
areas,
to
different
levels
of
urban
areas
and
and
and
these
this
land-use
topology
guide
guides
all
of
this
and
there's
a
suite
of
policies
that
goes
along
with
it,
which
will
delve
into
as
we
go
along.
So
I
think.
B
The
next
slide
has
a
few
more
examples
of
that:
just
kind
of
the
different,
the
different
designations
that
we
have
and
different
things
that
are
encouraged
and
allowed
to
happen
areas
and
there
it
is
all
on
one
big
map:
that's
Oklahoma,
City,
all
621
square
miles
of
it
going
from
the
green
areas
that
different
shades
is
ringing.
The
rural
areas
to
suburban
the
light,
yellow
and
the
urban
in
kind.
B
Another
kind
of
fits
hand
in
glove
with
that
land-use
topology
is
the
street
topology
system
and
that
we
wanted
to
make
the
point
in
plan
OKC
that
land
use
and
transportation
are
integrated
and
and
reliant
on
one
another.
That's
that's
just
critical,
so
they
really
go
together
and
we
really
have
to
consider
both
when
we
make
decisions
when
the
Planning
Commission
for
the
City
Council
just
to
consider
all
kinds
of
decisions
that
has
to
be
taken
into
account,
so
that
I
just
wanted
to
draw
your
attention
to
that.
B
B
We've
gotten
rich
OKC,
which
is
all
about
placemaking
preservation,
appearance
parks
and
rec
and
play
OKC
economic
development
and
public
services
and
those
those
have
a
host
of
policies
that
really
amount
to
like
I,
said
earlier.
How
we're
going
to
get
to
our
end
goal
the
vision
that
the
community
has.
B
This
may
not
be
any
any
any
news
to
you,
but
just
for
a
little
bit
of
history,
I
guess
the
way
that
zoning
has
worked
for
a
long
long
period
of
time
for
many
decades
is
that
you
know
you
separate
uses
you've
put
housing
over
here,
and
you
put
you
know
the
hog
farms
over
there
and
you
put
the
offices
over
there
so
that
they
don't
there's
no
conflict
between
them.
Well,
that
then
that
works
sort
of,
but
it
also
has
a
lot
of
downsides
and
I
think
we
can
all
see.
B
We
can
all
see
some
of
what
those
downsides
are.
What
a
lot
of
communities
are
doing.
Ours
included
is
going
to
a
little
more
sophisticated
system,
and
that
requires
a
more
sophisticated
code,
which
doesn't
mean
it's
more
complicated,
like
Einstein,
said,
I
believe
it
was
Einstein.
So
many
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
you
know
the
simplicity,
is
the
ultimate
sophistication
we're
trying
to
have
the
best
of
both
worlds.
But
compatibility
is
critical.
You
know
we've
got
to
if
we
want
to
integrate
uses
which
is
a
goal
of
plan.
B
Okay,
see,
and
somebody
mentioned
mixed
use
earlier.
If
we
want
to
integrate
those
uses,
you
know
have
the
ability
to
to
walk
out
your
front
door
and
walk
down
the
street
to
your
workplace
or
ride
your
bike
over
to
to
your
favorite
restaurant
or
drive
a
car
to
your
friend's
house,
which
is
just
a
short
distance
away
or
your
workplace,
a
short
distance
away.
B
We've
got
to
make
uses
able
to
be
compatible
with
one
another
without
having
to
separate
them
drastically,
and
so
that's
really
a
cornerstone
of
plan
OKC,
and
it
relates
to
the
intensity
of
use.
As
you
can
see
in
this
this
diagram
here
it
relates
to
transportation.
You
know
if
we
can
successfully
integrate
use
that
allows
us
to
be
more
sustainable
because
there's
less
less
travel
distances
involved,
people
can
take
shorter
trips,
they
can
use
their
car
less
so
it
all
it
all
kind
of
works
together
and
this.
B
B
B
B
B
But
what
we
found
with
the
code
diagnosis
was
that
ineffective
base
owning
districts
that
often
leads
to
overuse
of
pu
DS.
You
know
we
we
want
what
we
want,
but
are
we
feel
like
our
code
and
the
consultant
felt
like
our
base
owning
districts
weren't
weren't
adequate
to
get
us
there,
which
is
why
we
have
such
a
high
amount
of
peds
I'm
just
going
to
highlight
some
of
these
and
I
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
this
document
on
your
own.
B
B
We
just
the
structure
of
the
document
and
the
organization
is
kind
of
confusing,
unnecessarily
complex.
The
document
itself,
as
well
as
the
procedures
and
administration.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
to
work
on
to
make
this
better
and,
finally,
the
phase
one
recommendations,
as
you
would
expect
kind
of
the
inverse
of
the
of
the
problems
that
we
have.
Many
cities
have
seen
success
with
a
highly
graphic
and
user-friendly
layout.
That
makes
it
easy
to
understand
what
these
regulations
mean.
B
So
we're
going
to
focus
on
that
also
a
unified
development
code,
so
you're
not
constantly
flipping
back
and
forth
to
find
what
it
is
you
need.
You
know
we're
just
going
to
really
try
and
focus
on
something
that
makes
a
little
more
sense
and
has
what
you
need
in
the
right
place.
So
we're
going
to
have
we're
expecting
to
have
a
hybrid
code.
There
are
lots
of
different
kinds
of
codes
and
we'll
get
it
we'll
get
into
this
more.
You
know
from
form
based
codes
to
performance-based
codes
to
its
conventional
codes.
B
You
know
we
want
to
craft
something
that
is
hybrid,
that
works
for
us
all.
These
different
methods
have
have
advantages
and
disadvantages
so
and
we'll
use
you
know,
depending
on
what
area
of
the
city
we
we
expect
that
we'll
customize
these
codes
for
different
areas.
You
know
people
who
are
doing
greenfield
development
in
the
suburbs
have
different
needs
than
people
who
are
doing
infill
in
in
in
the
core
of
the
city.
B
So
our
code
should
reflect
that
we,
so
we
want
to
be
context
sensitive
and
that's
what
we
mean
by
that,
and
you
know
the
civic
and
open
spaces
are
also
important.
We
need
to
be
careful
about
how
we
design
and
locate
those
science
standards
we're
working
on
those
right
now
clear
procedures
for
administration
and
review
and
consolidated
nuisance
standards.
So
those
those
are
just
some
things
that
were
recommended.
B
B
Just
just
a
quick
I
guess
update
on
what
we're
doing
first,
the
first
kind
of
module
we're
doing
because
it's
kind
of
a
hot
issue
right
now
is
signs
and
billboards
and
we've
started
some
work
on
that
and
we'll
be
coming.
Bringing
some
information
to
you
shortly,
but
I
will
hand
it
over
to
mark
and
he
can
talk
us
through
kind
of
the
the
next
phases
in
our
process
and
what's
what's
coming
next.
C
Next
Jeff,
this
is
Mark
white
with
white
and
Smith,
and
Lisa
introduced
us
briefly
early
on
we're
out
of
Kansas
City
Charleston
and
Dallas
Reece
Wilson
who's
on
our
phone
is
our
is
on
our
call.
Today
he
is
in
our
Dallas
office
and
Reese
is
also
in
oh
you
grad,
and
has
done
some
work
in
and
around
the
city.
While
he
was
a
planning
student
there.
So
we're
glad
to
have
him
on
board,
and
you
see
the
big
arrow
on
the
right
that
talks
about
public
engagement,
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
traveese
Pendleton
from
vireo.
C
They
are
a
public
engagement
firm
that
we've
worked
with
before
on
on
projects
like
this,
because
it's
a
it's
a
neat
trick,
sometimes
to
get
everyone
involved
in
talking
about
zoning,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
zoning
is
a
legal
document
in
a
lot
of
ways.
It's
the
city's
authority
to
ask
things
of
development,
and
so
it's
got
to
be
written
a
certain
way
and
getting
people
excited
and
engaged
and
involved
in
that
is,
is
very
important,
so
we're
we're
thrilled
to
have
traveese
involved
on
it.
I
also
want
to
mention.
C
There's
two
other
firms:
candy
Keast
out
of
Houston,
is
helping
us.
They
also
do
code
updates
between
the
three
between
the
the
two
of
our
firms.
We've
done
over
300
codes
all
over
the
country
and
they
also
bring
with
them
an
online
code
to
tool
called
encode
that
we're
going
to
use
to
both
write
the
code
and
to
display
it
to
the
public.
When
we're
done,
it's
a
good.
It's
going
to
be
hyperlink.
C
That
has
a
lot
of
ways
to
access
the
code
that
aren't
available
today,
and
we
also
have
winner
and
company
they're
an
urban
design
firm
that
we've
used
on
a
lot
of
our
other
projects.
It'll
help
us
get
the
design
issues
right.
All
of
that
is
important,
so,
as
Lisa
mentioned
and
as
Jeff
just
went
over
the
city's
already
completed
phase
one
of
this
process.
It's
a
three
phase
process,
and
this
is
critically
important
in
that.
That's.
Why
I
appreciate
everyone's
involvement
today,
because,
as
Jeff
mentioned,
you
have
an
award-winning
plant,
that's
beautiful!
C
It's
well
written
I!
Think
when
you
read
through
plant
okay,
so
you
get
a
great
sense
of
what
this
city
is
today
and
what
it
wants
to
become
as
it
grows
further
and
continues
to
grow
and
mature
and
etc.
But
plans
don't
implement
themselves.
We
have
to
get
our
development
regulations.
Zoning
subdivision
how
we
design
buildings,
how
we
layout
sites,
how
we
design
streets-
and
it
said
we
have
to
get
all
of
that
right
for
everything
you
see
in
plan-
okay,
see
to
become
reality
in
the
future.
C
So
the
diagnosis
did
a
great
job
of
analyzing
and
pointing
out
things
in
the
current
code
that
are
obstacles
to
that
regulatory
barriers
that
we
need
to
remove
regular
regulatory
tools,
we
need
to
add
in
etc.
So
it
did
a
good
job
of
laying
out
a
blueprint
for
putting
this
plan
implementation
process
in
place
and
so
we're
stepping
in
on
Phase
two.
We
actually
did
it.
C
The
city
started
putting
together
that
this
process,
this
group
to
help
out
with
engagement
and
we
are
leading
off
with
different
as
we
go
for
in
Phase
two,
that's
the
drafting
phase,
so
we're
going
to
start
putting
together
different
pieces
of
this
code
because,
as
the
old
saying
goes,
how
to
eat
an
elephant
well
one
piece
of
at
a
time.
We
want
this
code
to
be
user
friendly.
We
want
it
to
be
something
that
that
makes
it
easy
for
you
all.
C
Those
of
you
involved
in
the
development
process
to
find
the
information
you
need
all
the
way
to
somebody
who's
in
a
neighborhood
wants
to
find
out.
What's
going
on
in
how
the
process
works,
it
needs
to
be
easy
for
them
to
so
we
are,
but
we're
gonna
put
all
that
together
piece
by
piece,
because
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
review
an
entire
code
at
once
and
give
us
a
meaningful
feedback.
C
So
we're
gonna
unveil
different
pieces
at
a
time
so
that
all
of
you
can
focus
and
give
us
your
sense
of
of
what
work
seems
to
work
well,
what
needs
to
change
and
etc
so
that
by
the
time
this
lands
on
the
Planning
Commission's
desk,
we've
gotten
it
right.
So
we're
leading
off
the
sign
code
I'm
going
to
talk
about
that
in
more
detail
in
a
second
we're
going
to
talk
about
different
code
types,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
structure
in
the
district.
C
So
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
first
things
we
talk
about
and
some
meetings
coming
up,
because
that'll
that'll
be
the
DNA
for
the
rest
of
the
code.
That'll
tell
us
how
we
shape
our
buildings,
our
sites,
our
streets,
our
parks,
our
everything,
even
stormwater
facilities.
That's
going
to
work
differently
in
the
different
type
ology
areas
that
will
drive
what
the
zoning
districts
look
like.
C
Once
we
go
through
all
that
we'll
have
successive
drafts,
so
you'll
have
you
and
the
general
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
dress,
give
us
your
feedback,
as
Lisa
mentioned,
we're
going
to
test
those
we're
going
to
take.
My
pathetical
sites
run
them
through
the
new
code
and
see
how
that
works
and
what
the
outcome
is
compared
to
what
you
have
in
place
today
and
then
the
third
phase,
once
this
is
adopted.
C
Obviously
it's
got
to
go
through
City
Council
and
get
approved
by
City
Council
before
it
becomes
the
law
of
the
land
in
Oklahoma.
City
we'll
have
some
opportunities
for
training
because,
as
I
always
tell
people
the
two
things,
everybody
hates
to
the
probably
get
a
sense
of
how
things
worked
as
painful
as
it
might
be,
but
you're
gonna
need
to
learn.
You
know,
there'll
be
some
language
changes
there'll,
be
some
things
that
are
different
you're.
C
C
We're
gonna
move
on
from
here
two
signs
and-
and
our
next
meeting
will
take
a
deeper
dive
into
sign
regulations
with
the
end
with
the
new
sign
regulations
might
look
like,
then
we'll
talk
about
districts
and
hand-in-hand
with
districts,
the
design
standards,
what
buildings
and
development
sites
look
like
and
how
they're
designed
then
we'll
talk
about
the
processes
for
entitling
development,
all
of
those
steps
and
then
we'll
talk
about
development
standards.
That's
everything
from
parking
to
landscaping
to
stormwater
management
to
the
streets.
C
All
of
that
will
be
what
will
be
in
one
chapter,
so
you
don't
have
to
consult
multiple
chapters
of
a
development
code
or
even
different
documents
like
today,
you
jump
from
chapter
59
of
the
Municipal
Code
to
the
subdivision
standards
to
figure
out
how
you
design
an
entire
site.
So,
as
Lisa
mentioned,
that's
all
going
to
be
vertically
and
horizontally
integrated
in
the
new
code.
At
the
end,
we'll
have
a
laypersons
guide
that
tells
people
how
the
code
works
and
what
the
outcomes
are
and
then
an
overview.
C
C
You
know
what
they
do
to
the
public,
so
things
like
murals
and
those
sorts
of
things,
add
life
and
vitality
to
buildings
and
sites.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
signs
become
an
asset
for
development,
but
that
we
also
lay
out
you
know
adequate
opportunity
for
people
to
speak
the
way
they
want
to
and
I'm
gonna
talk
in
a
second
about
some
specific
policies
in
plan
OKC's
and
plan.
Okay,
see
about
signs
that
followed
a
community
appearance
survey
that
was
done
several
years
ago.
C
While
we
sort
through
these
issues
and
come
up
with
a
set,
a
new
set
of
signed
regulations
that
are
more
workable
and
reasonable
and
there's
a
lot
of
Industry
and
business
concerns.
We've
had
a
number
of
focus
groups
already
and
we've
talked
to
a
lot
of
business
people
and
sign
makers
and
etc,
and
I'll
talk
about
those
in
a
second.
So
policy,
14
and
plan
OKC
is
very
specific
about
science.
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
unusual.
Most
comprehensive
plans
don't
get
into
even
this
level
of
detail
about
signs.
C
The
second
one
was
removing
non-conforming
billboards
and
trying
to
find
ways
to
get
older
billboards
that
don't
comply
with
our
modern
standards
up
to
date
to
consider
new
and
limits
and
new
standards
on
size,
height
number
of
signs
and
to
improve
our
enforcement
practices
to
be
a
little
more
proactive
about
that
and
policy.
Sc
17,
as
you
see,
is
also
very
specific
and
I
think
very
wise
in
recognizing
that
signs
are
important
feature
of
site
in
building
design.
I've
always
felt
that
in
retail
centers
you
know
and
I've
seen
them
be.
C
What,
when
they're,
when
they're
newly
built
the
signs
haven't
been
put
on
the
buildings.
Yet
they
look
kind
of
dead.
I.
Think
signs
are
a
great
way,
like
I,
say
to
add
life
and
vitality
to
our
streets
in
our
buildings
and
our
our
relationships
with
each
other.
But
if
there
are
too
many,
if
they're
not
designed
correctly,
if
they
don't
fit
the
context
of
development
that
can
create,
they
can
create
clutter
and
unsatisfactory
appearance
and
and
traffic
issues.
C
So
again
we
want
to
balance
all
that
and
get
that
right
and
what
we
want
you
to
think
about
between
this
meeting
and
as
we
move
on
to
the
next
meeting
are
the
kinds
of
the
features
of
signs
that
you
like
and
that
you
think
are
as
important,
maybe
as
a
business
person.
Maybe
as
this
just
as
a
citizen,
you
know
interested
in
the
appearance
of
the
neighborhood
around
you.
What
are
the
things
we
need
to
pay
better
attention
to?
What
are
the
things
that
don't
work
today?
C
Maybe
what
are
some
new
tools
we
need
to
put
in
place
to
deal
with,
and
we
say
if
you
could
move
to
the
next
slide
to
deal
with
like
the
area
and
height
of
signs,
how
tall
should
signs
be
in
different
parts
of
the
city?
What
is
the
appropriate
area
of
science?
What
how
many
signs
should
we
allow
per
front?
Where
should
we
locate
signs?
What
should
the
setbacks
be?
C
How
many
on
us
a
pretty
critical
what
types
of
signs
like
a
lot
of
cities
around
the
country
now,
when
they
update
sign
regulations,
no
longer
allow
pull
signs,
they
only
allow
signs
on
a
on
a
solid
base,
like
the
one
you
see
here.
Is
that
a
direction
that
we
should
go
in
or
should
we
let
the
marketplace,
take
care
of
that
and
just
maybe
consider
better
design
practices
for
pull
signs
or
covering
the
poles?
What
about
sign
materials
should
those
match
the
building
face?
C
What
do
you
think
about
sign,
illumination
and
digital
signs,
which
is
a
way
for
businesses,
for
example,
to
communicate
prices
or
different
aspects
of
their
business
without
having
to
constantly
reface
a
sign,
and
it's
a
modern
practice,
but
some
people
are
concerned
about
that.
Its
impact
on,
for
example,
you
know
that
the
night
skies
and
and
those
sorts
of
things,
so
we
think
more
about
the
copy
type.
Should
we
encourage
things
like
channel
letters
and
as
opposed
to
just
a
plain
flat
panels?
C
What
about
moving
parts,
a
lot
of
communities,
don't
allow
animated
signs
or
signs
that
move,
they
feel
like
they
create
traffic
issues,
but
is
that
something
we
can
integrate
better?
What
about
portable
signs?
The
city
doesn't
allow
them
today
and
that's
fairly
common
in
in
modern
sign
regulations,
but
is
that
something
we
need
to
continue
signs
on
public
property
in
the
right-of-way
and
then
temporary
time
signs?
C
You
know
you've
seen
a
lot
of
these
feather
banners
around
the
city,
I'm
sure,
and
what
I
said
you
see
see
those
car
dealerships
a
lot
of
times
have
that
that
rotating
balloon
or
the
bowing
balloon
are
those
things
we
need
to
crack
down
on
or
is
that
something
we
should
let
the
marketplace
control?
So
those
are
things
to
think
about
between
now
and
the
next
time.
Next
slide,
please,
and
as
I
mentioned,
we've
had
10
focus
groups
already
along
with
some
follow-up
interviews
and
when
I
did
the
slide,
we'd
had
seven.
C
What
works,
what
things
we
should
look
at
things!
We
should
avoid
things
that
work
for
business
and
for
the
sign
industry
and
things
that
don't
work,
and
so
we've
been
listening
and
and
trying
to
make
sure
we
get
this
right,
and
so
you
know
that's
that
those
are
that's
given
us
a
lot
of
great
input
that
will
lead
to
a
brand
new
sign
ordinance
that
we'll
be
considering
pretty
shortly.
C
So,
as
I
mentioned,
some
of
the
things
we
heard
in
the
focus
groups
were
to
avoid
unintended
consequences
to
provide
better
permitting
processes,
and
that's
something
I
heard
from
you
all
today,
just
globally
to
make
sure
our
permitting
processes
work
better
for
everyone
make
the
standards
more
predictable,
not
rely
so
much
on
the
the
PUD
or
the
simplified,
PUD
or
spud
process
which,
as
you
know,
HUD
stands
for
paranoia,
uncertainty
and
delay.
There
are
better
ways
to
approve
things
and
to
create
better
science
standards
by
right,
allowing
for
flexibility.
C
A
To
when
and
how
often
the
SAT
needs
to
meet,
we
do
anticipate
it
being
every
other
month,
but
for
this
next
meeting
we
are
asking
everybody
to
can
be
about
three
weeks
from
now
Friday
June
19
to
the
afternoon.
It
appeared
to
me
from
the
response
to
this
meeting
that
even
though
it's
summertime
Friday
afternoons
seem
to
work
for
most
everybody,
so
I've
gone
ahead
and
set
the
next
meeting
for
the
19th.
A
But
again
we
think
it's
just
so
important
that
we
get
in
front
of
you
with
some
concrete
sign
code
recommendations,
because
because
our
goal
is
to
get
the
sign
code
moving
and
to
do
that,
we
need
to
have
a
draft
of
it
by
the
late
summer
so
that
we
can
start
some
public
meetings
and
get
on
to
a
final
draft
and
adoption.
So
it
is
an
aggressive
schedule
for
signs
the
staff
and
the
consultant
are
committed
to
making
it
happen.
We
we
went
to
you
hit
hard.
We
don't
want.
A
We
definitely
don't
want
to
be
careless
about
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
have
crossed
keys,
but
a
tie
now
that
we
don't
want
to
let
our
make
any
mistakes.
You
know
in
our
case,
to
get
it
done,
but
if
again,
if
you've
been
following
Planning,
Commission
and
council,
this,
this
is
an
important
issue.
So
again
involved
will
plan
on
June
19
and
please,
let
me
know
if
you
put
in
general,
you
prefer
Friday
mornings
or
Friday
afternoons.
E
Lisa,
this
is
Janice
powers
have
one
and
one
observation
that
I
just
had
you
feel
burning
in
to
express,
and
that
is
as
we
move
forward
with
this
process
and
not
just
on
the
sign
code
portion
of
it,
but
throughout
the
process.
I
think
it
is
very
important
for
us
to
keep
always
in
mind
the
process
of
code
enforcement.
We
have
a
dismal
history
of
it
here
in
the
city
of
Oklahoma,
City
and
so
I
think.
E
Not
only
do
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
with
everything
that
we
propose
or
an
act,
how
it's
going
to
be
enforced
if
it's
enforceable
and
what
that
mechanism
will
look
like
and
I.
Just
think
that
is
going
to
be
so
important.
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
do
us
any
good
to
go
through
all
of
this
to
come
up
with
a
wonderful
new
code
and
then
not
to
have
any
better
ability
to
enforce
it
than
we
do
now.
A
A
D
A
D
A
So
we
are
I've,
set
up
a
Microsoft
team
spaulder
where
staff
will
distribute
pieces
of
information
and
drafts
resources
for
the
team's
review,
so
I'm,
putting
together
kind
of
quick
instructions
for
that,
because
you
probably
already
receives
the
mystery
invitations.
A1
from
me
asking
saying
that
I've
added
you
to
a
group,
you
probably
received
one
from
IT
department
saying
that
you
have
been
added
to
a
group.
A
Those
are
legitimate,
I'm
gonna,
send
you
some
screenshots
of
what
those
look
like
teams
is
available
on
the
desktop
app
and
it's
available
and
a
mobile
app,
but
again
I'm
working
on
some
some
information.
What
how
you
access
it
and
what's
available
right
now
there
are
a
couple
of
articles
white
paper.
Article
is
about
signs.
Those
are
for
information.