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They
actually
had
a
car,
they
had
ross
perot,
the
guy.
I
think
it
was
david
spade
playing
ross
perot
driving
away
and
the
guys
like
tried
to
run
his
way.
C
F
F
F
C
F
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G
E
Yeah,
it
was
steve
graber
and
dan,
and
I
they
are
steve
griffin,
sean
and
I,
the
chamber
got
us
to
go
on
that.
We
were
the
city
team,
we
are
against
mark
jason's
and
beavis
doug
beavis
and
they
won.
E
D
C
H
Well,
I
am
pamela
settle
and
let
me
adjust
this
a
little
bit.
Hello,
everybody
first,
you
know
thank
you
for
your
service
to
this
committee.
The
city
charter
is
so
important.
H
I'm
here
I
want
to
address
a
couple
of
items.
First,
you
know
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
that
last
month
there
was
no
discussion
in
article
3
regarding
forfeiture
of
office,
and
I
can
see
from
the
minutes
that
no
citizens
came
to
the
meeting
to
discuss
that.
So
my
guess
is
that
citizens
in
general,
don't
really
know
about
these
meetings
or
what's
being
discussed,
so
I
just
wanted
to
come
and
share
my
personal
experience.
H
It
was
their
perception
that
the
city
council
had
simply
chosen
not
to
take
any
action,
but
going
back
to
last
august
when
deciding
to
become
a
candidate
for
city
council.
I
spoke
with
our
mayor,
who
explained
to
me
that
really
it
was
the
city
charter
that
was
limiting
the
city
council
from
being
able
to
take
any
action,
and
so
that's
what
I
told
people
so
now
in
looking
back
at
that
scenario
and
thinking
proactively
about
the
future.
H
H
H
H
The
second
item
today,
I'd
like
to
reference,
is
in
both
article
three
and
four
and
it
regards
city
elections.
The
charter
doesn't
go
into
detail
about
how
municipal
elections
are
conducted,
but
it
does
say
that
the
city
clerk
manages
the
election
and
abides
by
state
statutes.
H
H
Secondly,
oh
you
know,
and
just
also
there
were
38
ballots
that
were
returned
late,
so
there
were
people
who
showed
up
at
the
library.
Looking
for
the
dropbox,
I
had
to
mail
them
and
they
were
returned
late,
so
38
votes,
weren't
counted
and
when
there's
an
election,
that's
separated
by
eight
votes.
38
votes
is
important
to
the
candidates
and
to
the
voters,
also
how
we
communicate
our
elections
is
really
up
to
the
city
and
what
I
found.
H
The
era
of
city
newspapers
is
gone,
it's
hard
to
communicate
with
residents,
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
us
do
more
work
harder
at
informing
our
citizens
about
their
own
city
elections
even
on
election
day.
It
was
very,
very
frustrating
that
people
were
driving
by
saying
what's
this
election
for
they
didn't
know,
and
lastly,
the
state
is
stepping
up
to
ban
the
practice
of
ballot
harvesting
by
political
organizations.
B
C
B
Okay,
item
number:
two:
since
sean
is
not
here,
can
we
move
that
to
our
next
month's
meeting
or
do
we
want
to
since
he
was
the
lead
on
that?
Do
we
want
to
proceed
without
him?
What
should
we.
F
G
F
Well,
I
didn't
know
the
exact
dollar
amount
I
was
estimating,
but
we
did
get
that
information
and
that
was
provided
by
cindy
neno
and
it
is.
F
D
And
I
know
that
they'll
never
do
anything
with
that,
but
them
having
the
ability.
What
is
it
50
percent?
Yes
for
a
bond
is,
I
was
hoping
we
could
discuss,
bringing
that
down
to
around
10
because
that's
still
a
huge
amount,
and
if
they
need
that
much
more
money,
then
it
should
be
something
that
the
residents.
C
Absolutely
so
like,
what's
let's
say
a
hurricane
comes
in
and
floods
the
place,
then
our
billion
dollars
is
not
going
to
be
a
billion
dollars
anymore,
so
shouldn't
there
be
at
least
a
threshold
to
make
the
ten
percent.
D
B
D
Well,
I'm
also
realizing
that
which
would
actually
address
some
of
your
things
that
it's
it's
going
to
go
from
here
to
city
council
for
this
for
discussion,
and
my
concern
is
that
if
we
start
at
25
it's
going
to
go
up
from
there
versus
the
10
and
then
work
their
way
up,
I
mean
we're
still
talking.
B
D
Six,
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
verbiage
per
se
and
I
hate
to
say
I'm
going
to
be
asking
you
two
guys
a
lot
of
questions
predominantly
when
I'm
looking
at
it
in
sections
one
two
and
three,
although
I
may
want
to
re,
evaluate
a
little
bit
but.
D
I'm
okay,
I
I
don't
see
anything
in
sections
one's
two
or
three
that
I
think
me
personally
needs
to
be
changed
when
I'm
looking
at
section
four,
the
two
things
that
I
really
wanted
to
do
was
potentially
raise
the
filing
fee.
D
Up,
I
don't
know,
did
you
guys
get
copies
from
ann
on
the
filing
fees
and
I
just
see
is
25
for
an
hour
of
anne's
time
when
she's
going
over
everything
with
you,
it's
a
small
amount,
but
at
the
same
time
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
run
so
what
I'm
looking
at
the
other
municipalities
within
pinellas.
D
So
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know.
I
just
thought
that
that
was
one
of
the
numbers
that
we
should
be
looking
at.
In
section
c,
the
other
one
was,
I
really
wanted
to
ask
anne
was
on
the
150
qualified.
D
G
So
what
we
do
is
we
ask
them
to
turn
in
more
than
that,
especially
in
the
beginning,
because
a
lot
of
them
can
be
disqualified
and
stuff
like
that,
and
we
make
sure
that
the
supervisor
of
elections
checks
five
beyond
that
in
case
any
are
questioned
afterwards,
so
that
nobody's
disqualified.
That
way
so
typically
they'll
turn
in
probably
close
to
200
for
to
become
qualified.
G
D
B
I
think
150
is
a
good
number,
like
ann
said,
because
you
you've
got
to
figure
you're
going
to
get
200
plus
right.
You
know
no
matter
what
you're
going
to
get
those
additional
cards,
and
you
know
the
filing
fee.
Is
you
know,
as
tom
told
us
in
the
beginning,
are
we
changing
something
just
to
change
something
or
we
change
to
something
to
fix
something
and
make
it
better?
G
I
guess
it's
not
going
to
cover
all
the
paper
and
yeah
how
often
we
have
to
make
a
copy
or
something
copy,
or
something
stuff
like
that
or
even
close
to
our
time,
but
we're
really
not
looking
at
reimbursement,
we're
looking
at
them
understanding
from
the
beginning
that
if
they
spend
money,
it's
got
to
come
out
of
their
campaign
account,
and
that
needs
to
be
that
first
check,
and
this
is
what's
important.
So
that's
really
what
we're
looking
at
with
this,
that
commitment
for
that
filing
fee.
C
D
All
right,
so
in
section
d
I
was
trying
to
understand
the
verbiage
and
you
were
getting
into
legalese
and
dates
and
days
and
in
section
d
it
says
petitions
shall
be
filled
with
the
city
clerk
no
more
than
49
days
and
not
less
than
17
days
prior
to
the
final
ballot
language
being
approved
by
the
city
council.
G
It
used
to
be
that
this
was
related
to
the
date
of
the
election,
and
that
would
when
that
qualification
that
would
have
to
be
met,
and
then
we
had
changed
it
to
be
based
on
the
date
when
city
council
approves
the
final
ballot
language,
because
what
the
supervisor
of
election
requires
can
change
during
the
years.
So
I
wanted
to
make
it
flexible,
based
on
an
action
that
the
city
did
and
we
wanted
to
make
it
the
same
30-day
period.
Basically,
and
so
that's
why
that
language
is
in
there,
because
that
would
support.
G
G
D
D
Alexis
kirk,
so
the
second
to
last
sentence
on
the
first
paragraph
on
that
page,
a
majority
of
the
members
of
the
canvassing
board
shall
constitute
a
quorum
of
the
canvassing
board.
The
canvassing
board
should
ensure
that
all
that
the
ballots
cast
for
any
election
are
fairly
inaccurately
counted,
and
I
was
just
curious
if
there
was
a
reasoning
behind
sorry.
Anne.
G
D
And
then
the
only
other
one
was
petty,
which
was
the
qualified
elector
shall
be
hearing
qualified
as
a
resident
of
the
city
on
the
day
of
the
election
properly
registered
in
accordance
with.
D
That
seemed
rushed
that
that
that
day
you
were
doing
it,
but
then
you
could
still
be
a
qualified
elector,
which
means
you're
just
a
voter
yeah.
Then
I'm
fine,
let
them
do
it.
C
A
Can
I
say:
go
forward
okay,
I
feel
like
section
602,
nonpartisan
elections,
there's
one
sentence:
all
elections
for
the
city
council
shall
be
nonpartisan
is
not
sufficient
enough
to
to
describe
that.
In
my
opinion,.
A
A
Trying,
if
it's
truly
non-partisan,
then
what
you
are
should
not
come
into
play
at
all.
It
should
just
be
citizens
of
our
city,
not
one
or
the
other
or
the
third
like
me,
but
there
have
been
in
the
past
like
registering
on
websites
that
are
a
certain
party,
okay
like
actively
doing
that
or
going
out
with
people
of
a
party
to
canvas
for
not
just
this
but
other
things,
but
for
themselves.
At
the
same
time,.
F
F
Someone
being
involved
in
a
meeting
in
a
partisan
type
event,
and
then
they
also
have
provisions
that
provide
that
you
cannot
receive
donations
from
organizations
that
are
party
affiliated,
and
so
it
has
in
those
code
provisions.
It
talks
about
things
that
you
shouldn't
do
and
if
you
do
do
it,
then
there
are
consequences,
but
frankly
the
consequences
and
that
in
dunedin,
as
an
example
is
just
a
fine
up
to
five
hundred
dollars
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
whether
or
not
that
you're.
B
B
E
A
It's
not
so
much
money,
I
mean,
I
guess
that's
part
of
it,
but
if
you
are
advertising
that
you're
running
on
partisan
websites,
because
people
don't
do
all
the
research
that
they
can
do
sometimes
about
what
candidates
stand
for,
and
so,
if
you're
just
going
to
go
and
look
at
who's.
Who
am
I
voting
for
here
and
look
at
a
a
line
of
people
as
part
of
this
website?
A
I
just
don't
think
that's
appropriate.
I
don't
know
I
just
I
wouldn't
I
don't
think
you
should
put
yourself
on
partisan
material
that
if
it's
a
non-partisan
race,
if
it
it
truly,
is
a
nonpartisan
race.
Then
I
think,
like
tom
said
I
just
like
having
something
in
there.
That
says.
Please
don't
do
this
this
this,
and
this
rather
than
one
sentence.
I
just
don't
think
it's
thorough
enough.
We
just
need
to
expand
on
it
a
little
more.
A
Right
right,
it's
just
more
the
intent
of
the
person
who's
running.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
spelled
out,
not
necessarily
donors.
I
don't
know,
I
guess
it's
messy,
but
I
think
the
intent
of
the
person
that's
running
should
be
to
be
cleanly
nonpartisan
and
not
do
things
on
the
side
that
would
support
them
unfairly
against
other
candidates.
I
D
While
he's
looking
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
do-
and
I
spent
probably
way
too
much
time
according
to
my
wife
look
was,
I
feel
like
over
the
last
gosh-
I
guess
17
years
I've
been
here
now.
I
feel
like
there's
been
this.
D
A
F
So
it's
titled
a
little
bit
different
than
what
this
would
be
titled,
but-
and
it's
not
again-
it's
not
in
the
charter,
it's
in
their
code,
and
it
says-
and
this
is
20
section
26-202
of
the
dunedin
code-
it's
titled
unfair
campaign
practice.
F
Number
four
is
participate
in
any
partisan
political
party
function,
provided,
however,
that
such
candidate
or
agent
of
a
candidate
may
register
and
vote
as
a
member
of
a
political
party
and
may
attend
and
speak
at
a
political
party
event
functional
event.
Provided
that
all
candidates
for
the
city
office
have
been
invited
and
permitted
to
participate
in
the
same
manner
and
to
the
same
extent
or
paragraph
five,
any
person
committing
any
act
prohibited
by
this
section
shall
be
guilty
of
an
unfair
campaign
practice
and
a
municipal
ordinance
violation
punishable.
D
D
Gotta
love
youtube.
We
can't
discuss
this
anywhere,
so
I
might
as
well
do
I
have
to
do
it
here.
So
it's
my
understanding
from
what
I've
been
told
over
the
years
that
people
get
monetary
donations
from
one
party
or
another
when
they're
running
with
our
nonpartisan
they've
been
using
that
and
that
is
the
bulk
of
their
campaign
financing.
Are
you
saying
you
want
that
to
stop,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
transpires,
I
genu
really
don't
I
just
what
I've
been
told.
A
A
I
don't
know
about
the
money
part,
but
to
me
it
means
don't
do
things
on
the
side
that
identify
you
with
the
political
party
of
voters
that
are
going
to
vote
for
you,
that's
all.
So
if
we
want
to,
I
mean
if
we
want
to
expand
it
to
the
money.
That's
that's!
That's
not
that's
fine!
That
sounds
reasonable.
That's
not
the
issue
that
I
was
really
that
bugs
me,
though,.
A
F
This
is
your
bible
as
to
the
the
bones
of
of
what
you're
doing
here
in
the
city.
Normally
you
don't
go
into
a
whole
bunch
of
detail
in
the
charter
like
that.
Normally
it's
in
the
code,
and
so
you
don't
want
this
thing
to
be
so
heavy
and
include
stuff
in
it.
That
makes
it
so
difficult
to
change
because
remember
once
it's
in
your
charter,
it's
there
basically
forever
and
it's
very
difficult
to
take
it
out,
and
so
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
you
would
normally
put
like.
A
I
F
So
the
answer
is
yes
what
we
we
could
do
at
the
end
of
your
report
when
you're
done.
Although
this
is
not
a
charter
issue,
we
would
make
the
following
recommendations
and
then
they
can
do
what
they
want
with
them,
and
we've
done
that
before,
where
we
come
across
something
in
the
in
the
charter
that
we
need
to
address
in
the
code
or
vice
versa.
B
B
D
B
G
A
C
A
Is
that
anywhere
and
here's?
My
specific
complaint
is
having
a
sitting
city
council
member
walk
the
streets
in
canvas
for
one
of
the
people
that
are
running.
A
Yeah,
but
it
also
is
an
unfair
advantage
if
there's
a
sitting
council
member
with
a
lot
of
influence,
walking
door-to-door
and
supporting
one
candidate
and
even
saying
things
that
aren't
becoming
about
others.
I
know
it
probably
doesn't
go
anywhere,
but
I'm
just
sharing
my
opinions
and
experience
and
I'd
like
that
to
be
somewhere
too.
If
there's
a
place
for
that.
B
E
Okay,
all
right
article,
seven
everything
looked
pretty
good
to
me,
the
one,
the
only
change
that
I
saw
this
is
actually
recommended
by
our
city
clerk.
E
Anne
was
changing
the
at
least
every
five
years
to
every
10
years,
because
although
a
lot
can
change
in
10
years,
historically,
the
actual
reviews
are
only
about
there
are
about
10
years
apart
and
the
nature
of
the
charter
is
such
that
it
should
not
be
subject
to
change
too
often,
so
she
actually
recommended
changing
it
from
five
years
to
every
10
years,
and
she
did
say
that
it
is
the
basis
of
people
granting
the
authority
to
the
government
and
carries
more
weight
than
the
court
of
code
of
ordinances.
E
F
Okay,
the
way
that
this
is
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
here
the
way
this
reads:
it
says
at
least
once
every
so
at
any
point
in
time,
if
someone
from
the
audience
wanted
to
step
forward-
and
they
and
say
look
it's
time
to
address
this
particular
thing.
Obviously
the
council
can
do
that
on
our
own
or
they
can
appoint
the
committee
sooner
than
whatever
this
says
I
mean
we
could
literally
have
one
every
year.
F
So
there
is
some
savings
grace
that,
even
if
you
do
extend
it
up
for
10
years,
that's
that's
not
just
saying
it
can't
happen.
This
is
just
saying
you
absolutely
have
to
do
it
by
this
time
frame
so
by
changing
it
you're
not
prohibiting
that,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
when
ann-
and
I
will
look
at
it-
though
we're
going
to
set
it
ten
years
out
and
unless
we
hear
some
other
direction,
if
you
change
it
so.
I
F
Someone
could
come
up
and
then
they
could.
The
council
could
say
you
know
really
haven't
thought
about
that.
That's
a
good
idea!
Why
don't?
We
get
some
input
from
city
staff,
the
city,
attorney's
office,
city,
clerk's,
office
city,
manager's
office,
come
back
and
give
us
your
thoughts
and
suggestions
relative
to
addressing
this
particular
issue,
and
if
they
say
that
okay
well
we're
going
to
advance
that
trust
go
ahead
and
prepare
an
ordinance,
then
I
would
prepare
an
ordinance.
F
It
would
have
two
public
hearings
and
then
that
ordinance
does
not
become
effective
until
such
time
as
the
referendum
takes
place,
which
we
don't
call
special
elections
for
just
one
referendum
question.
It
would
be
pushed
on
to
the
next
municipal
election,
which
may
be
a
year
or
two
years
down
the
road,
and
then
it
would
have
the
public
vote
on
it
at
that
time,
but
yeah.
So
we
can
move
them
forward
just
by
even
the
mayor
or
one
of
the
council
members
saying
you
know,
I
really
think
we
need
to
make
this
change.
F
I
F
These
are
two
yeah
any
any
change
here
in
this
charter
is
going
to
go
to
referendum.
The
charter
review
committee
looks
at
the
whole
charter
I'm
suggesting.
If
someone
wanted
to
change
one
code
section
like
pam
stepped
up,
and
she
said
you
know
we
really
need
to
address
this
one
thing,
and
so
they
may
just
decide.
Okay,
we'll
just
take
out
that
one
piece
and
we'll
move
forward
on
that,
but
so
there
is
an
opportunity.
F
C
C
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
usual
amount
of
time
a
mayor
is,
the
mayor
is
that
three
three
years
and
then
they
could
go
to
six
if
they
get
reelected.
A
C
E
Follow
us,
so
I
make
a
motion
in
article
7,
section,
7.02
and
7.03
to
change
the
wording
from
at
least
once
every
five
years
to
be
at
least
once
every
10
years.
D
C
C
C
Does
that
have
to
do
with
like,
like
the
covet
ordinances
like
they
had
during.
F
F
C
C
F
F
They
just
need
to
need
a
super
majority
to
do
it
and
then
it
s
it
says
how
long
it's
going
to
stay
in
in
effect,
and
so
whether
this
is
in
the
charter
or
not,
it's
in
state
statutes,
there's
a
provision
that
allows
us
to
do
it
anyhow.
This
just
makes
a
little
bit
clearer
because
it's
setting
forth
the
procedure
and
when
it's
effective
and
when
it
ends
and
that
type
of
thing
okay,
so
it's
very
helpful
to
be
in
the
charter.
F
F
F
A
B
Which
section
two
one
or
three?
A
Are
we
done
with
article
seven
okay?
I
just
wondered
if
pam
came
and
talked
about
the
dropbox
and
communication
is
there?
Is
there
a
place
for
that
to
be
addressed
in
here
like
at
the
end
of
article
6,
where
we
talk
about
ballots
cast
for
any
election
or
fairly,
it's
not
really.
Well,
I
don't
know,
I
guess
it
is
the
accounting,
because,
if
ballots
aren't
making,
if
there's
38
ballots,
that
didn't
make
it
and
and
we
assume
or
fairly
or
unfairly
that
the
dropbox
might
have
been
part
of
the
problem
for
that
right,.
G
We
couldn't,
for
instance,
collect
them
on
our
own
and
take
them
there.
It
has
to
be
two
people
accompanying
any
ballots
that
are
collected
and
they
have
to
be
taken
to
that
office
by
a
certain
time
every
day
and
there's
all
these
things.
So
you
really
you.
I
don't
think
that
you
could
put
something
in
the
charter.
That's
going
to
tell
the
supervisor
of
elections.
What
to
do.
G
I
think,
if
I
understood
pam's
request,
it
was
that
the
city
would
work
with
the
county
to
do
something
for
municipal
elections,
that's
more
in
line
with
what
the
voters
experienced
in
the
larger
elections,
yeah,
okay,
which
we
can
do,
that
we
just
need
to
reach
out
and
have
that
dialogue
started.
It's
just.
B
G
Yeah,
I
could
we
all
can
reach
out
to
julian
marcus
at
least
have
a
discussion
or
even
bring
it
up
because
kathy
and
I
will
be
going
up
to
the
pinellas
county
clerks
association
next
week
or
no
week
after
and
we
can
next
week
and
bring
it
up
as
a
discussion
item.
And
I
can.
I
can
even
give
you
an
update
with
what
the
feel
is
out
there
for
for
this,
because
we
aren't
the
only
city
that
experiences
the
the
disparity.
You
know
the
voter.
E
F
D
Here
we're
bouncing
I'll
take
the
ball
as
far
as
the
reason
I
voted,
no
on
the
five
versus
the
10
is.
My
concern
is
tenure
that
it's
nice
to
have
tom
sitting
here,
that's
been
through.
How
many
of
these
you
don't
need
to
tell
me,
but
it's
been
more
than
two
or
three
and
it's
the
same
with
our
esteemed
clerk.
D
B
Okay,
well,
we
covered
six
and
seven
today
in
our
next
meeting,
I
believe
is:
I
have
an
article
and.
E
Today,
yes,
actually
the
july
meeting,
it's
that's
the
day
after
the
4th
of
july
and
apparently
well,
that's
the
national
holiday
and
the
city
is
closed
on
july
monday
july
5th.