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OLDSMAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA November 7, 2017, 7PM EST
Agenda http://bit.ly/110717Agenda
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Meeting Called to Order 0:00
Citizens' Open Forum 0:55
Mayors Minute 06:09
Consent Docket 10:50
City of Oldsmar 20:24
City Attorney 29:13
City Manager 1:27:11
City Council 1:36:36
A
B
Father
in
Heaven
gives
the
power
to
clearly
discern
right
from
wrong,
allow
our
words
and
actions
to
be
governed,
thereby
and
by
the
laws
of
this
land.
We
ask
for
inspiration
and
strive
in
our
endeavors
to
serve
the
public.
We
also
ask
that
you
direct
us
so
that,
above
all
things,
we
will
discharge
your
duties
for
the
benefit
of
the
people
we
serve.
A
Thank
You
Anne
once
again
welcome
we're
already
into
November
our
first
item
tonight
is
our
citizens
open
forum.
We
only
have
a
couple
of
rules
that
you
state
your
name
and
address
clearly
for
the
record.
You
keep
it
to
no
more
than
five
minutes
and
you
can
speak
towards
items
on
the
agenda
if
you
are
speaking
about
items
15,
16,
17
or
18,
those
are
or
I'm
sorry,
15,
16
and
18.
Those
are
public
hearings
and
we
will
hear
you
at
the
time
that
we
get
to
those
items.
C
C
A
D
So,
okay
I
think
it's
by
marriage,
I'm,
not
sure
Steve
Gator
black
2010
Hudson
court
here
in
old
tomorrow,
I
have
two
purposes
tonight.
One
is
to
remind
you
that
this
Thursday
night
there's
going
to
be
an
author's
night
at
the
library
at
eco
in
TECO
Hall.
We
will
have
pizza
and
soft
drinks
in
water
and
I
say
that,
because
I
know
that
there's
some
on
the
council
that
love
pizza.
D
And
the
other
thing
I
have.
We
have
been
talking
in
the
Friends
of
the
library
about
getting
an
organization
together
to
promote
poetry.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
club.
There
will
be
no
officers,
it's
just
going
to
have
a
moderator
and
anybody.
That's
interested
in
learning
about
poetry,
writing,
poetry,
reading,
poetry,
we're
going
to
invite
everybody
to
come.
We
will
have
more
information
on
this
later
on,
but
in
order
to
help
kick
it
off,
I
have
a
challenge
for
you.
D
You
know
list
of
15.
Words
need
to
write
a
poem
about
it
doesn't
have
to
rhyme.
Although
Dennis
the
Menace
told
Joey
his
buddy,
that
a
poem
is
a
series
of
words
that
rhyme,
it's
not
necessarily
the
case,
and
you
don't
have
to
use
all
15
of
the
words
but
we'd
like
for
you
to
try
and
we'll
we'll
look
at
them.
The
first
council
meeting
in
December.
That
gives
you
enough
time
to
get
your
kids
to
write
it
up
for.
F
D
My
belief
is
that
everybody
can
write
a
poem.
Everybody
said:
I
can't
write
a
poem
I,
don't
know
how
to
do
that.
It
doesn't
make
any
difference
whether
you've
got
any
formal
training
about
doing
it
or
not.
I
have
no
formal
training
and
on
occasion
I
can
spit
out
poem
just
as
fast
as
I
can
talk
and
other
times,
I
couldn't
do
it
for
a
nickel.
That's.
D
A
A
A
couple
of
recap:
side:
on
top
of
the
bay
Oktoberfest
upper
Tampa,
Bay
Chamber
of
Commerce,
great
weather,
and
turnout
for
the
annual
event
at
Tampa,
Bay
Downs,
wiener
dog
races
were
a
huge
success
and
I
have
it
on
pretty
good
authority
that
it's
actually
going
to
be
two
weekends
next
year.
So
they
did
real
well
with
it,
and
last
year
was
the
record
year,
but
they
did
real.
Well.
This
year,
International
cleanup
40
volunteers,
participated,
collected,
360,
pounds
of
trash
and
recyclables
from
shoreline
and
paddle
trail
Thanks
to
everyone
that
was
involved.
A
We
mean
business
and
other
successful
and
monthly
visits
by
the
upper
Tampa,
Bay
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
city
manager
and
myself
for
October.
We
visited
zippy
Shell,
Self
Storage,
it's
similar
to
iPods,
and
it's
right
here
in
Oldsmar
about
a
50,000
foot
warehouse
that
they
use
to
store
into
Ally,
restore
and
construct
also
business
records
management,
and
they
were
also
the
ones
that
helped
us
with
our
big
shred
event
and
lunch
at
chef
Lee.
So
that
was
very
nice
Ace
Hardware,
congratulations
to
Ace
Hardware
on
their
soft
opening.
This
week.
A
The
new
store
is
located
at
Forest
Lakes
Plaza.
Next
to
all
these,
we
want
to
welcome
them
to
holds
more,
they
used
to
be
an
old
smart
at
the.
What
is
now
famous
tape
moved
out
and
so
everybody's
excited
that
they're
back
today,
we
went
to
a
veteran
ceremony
at
Nielsen
that
was
very
nice
honored
to
join
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
city
manager,
al
Braithwaite,
a
vice
mayor,
dancer,
a
key
council
members,
Eric
Seidel
and
Jerry
B,
Berlin
and
I
got
to
tell
you.
It
was
a
really
nice
ceremony.
A
They
did
kind
of
a
fictional
story
of
a
typical
family.
That's
lost
a
loved
one
in
war
and
what
their
typical
dinner
is
like
and
and
then
they
slid
a
screen
in
front
of
them.
So
you
couldn't
see
them,
and
then
you
saw
a
representation
of
the
military
with
some
active
members
and
and
what
their
dinner
is
like
with
MREs
and
stuff
like
that.
So
it
was
very
nice.
A
It
was
actually
beamed
all
the
way
around
all
around
the
world
to
all
in
the
Olsons
facilities,
so
very
excited
that
they
invited
us
to
that
upcoming
events,
benefit
yard,
sale,
Friday,
November
10th
in
Saturday,
November
11th
at
8
a.m.
at
Kathy,
Horvath's
house,
our
deputy
city
clerk
I
turn
it
over
to
you
to
tell
them
why
we're
doing
this
and
the
great
cause.
Thank.
A
A
They're
meeting
all
the
help
we
can
get
so
also
annual
Veterans
Day
ceremony,
as
Judy
mentioned.
That's
this
Saturday
November
11th
at
11
a.m.
at
Veterans,
Memorial
Park.
Reading
the
newly
inscribed
names
on
the
veterans
wall,
organic
community
garden,
open
house,
that's
also:
Saturday
November,
11th
10:00
to
2:00
at
Bicentennial,
Park
free
admission,
the
City
Hall
blood
drive,
Tuesday,
November,
14th
and
1:00
to
4:00
at
City,
Hall,
free
fleece,
blankets
for
donors
plus
wellness
checkup,
celebrity
servitor
afternoon,
Saturday
November,
18th
12:00
to
4:00
p.m.
A
at
Jack
Willy's
annual
goals
for
a
cause,
fundraiser
NHL,
two-time,
Stanley
Cup
winner
I,
can
hasten
column
or
it
was
easier
than
I
thought.
It
was
University
of
Florida
and
Buccaneer
player.
Ernest
Graham
will
be
there
and
more
$20
tickets,
raffles
silent
auctions
and
more
what
goals
for
a
cause
does
and
among
the
poly
sharing
fund
board,
and
we
were
the
beneficiary
last
year
goals
for
a
cause
as
an
organization
that
actually
holds
an
event
to
raise
money
to
give
it
away
to
another
charity,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
charity
is
this
here.
A
E
A
Might
be
a
bigger
draw
than
me
12:00
to
2:00
at
the
Oldsmar
McDonald's
stop
by
and
have
a
chat
I'll
be
out
there
from
12:00
to
2:00
eating
my
lunch
very
slowly,
obvious
details
on
upcoming
events
at
my
old
smart
calm
that
roughs
up
wraps
up
the
mayor's
minute.
We
have
nothing
in
our
CRA,
our
consent,
docket.
We
have
quite
a
few
items
and
I
have
explained
this
the
past
couple
of
years.
A
The
reason
we
have
so
many
items
on
the
consent,
docket
we
actually
have
eleven
of
them-
is
because
we're
starting
a
new
budget
year.
When
you
start
a
new
budget
year,
there's
a
lot
of
items
that
were
appropriated
in
the
budget
and
so
now
we're
starting
to
purchase
those
things.
And
then
what
will
happen
is
throughout
the
year
they
figure
out
what
else
they'll
need
next
year
it
gets
put
into
the
budget
and
then
the
same
thing
happens
next
year.
E
So
if
I
can
there
also
the
fact
that
when
we
buy
up
someone
else's
contract,
they've
gone
through
the
procurement
process,
the
bid
process,
and
so
it
can
be
very
expensive
for
a
city
to
continuously
go
through
that
process.
On
every
item,
which
is
the
reason
why
cities
for
the
most
part
can
piggyback
on
each
other,
where
one
person,
one
city
rather
incur
the
cost
and
the
time
and
but
I'll,
show
you
that
all
of
these
and
their
current
they're
all
current
contracts,
where
they've
been
recently
rented
and
so
forth.
So
and.
A
Understand
that,
but
that's
that's
an
item
that
definitely
can
I
do
this,
can
I
jump
out
of
order
real,
quick?
If
I
could
under
city
manager,
item
19,
we
got
to
do
a
little
homework
on
that
and
tweak
it
just
a
little
bit
if
I
can
get
a
motion
to
postpone
that
until
our
next
meeting?
That
would
be
great,
so
move
second
motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
aye
that
will
show
up
on
our
next
agenda.
Thank
you.
F
A
Approve
the
minutes
of
the
July
18th
2017
city
of
Oldham,
our
city
council
meeting
approved
the
minutes
of
the
to
August
1st
2017
City
Council
meeting
approved,
request
to
waive
bid
requirements
and
approve
purchase
of
three
items
under
renewed
contracts,
piggybacks
and
cooperative
purchases
aye
for
approved
the
request
to
waive
bid
requirements
and
award
the
contract,
repair,
replace
and
supply
of
utility
plant
equipment
to
mater
electric
motors.
Under
the
same
terms
and
conditions
of
the
Lea
County
Board
of
County
Commissioners,
be
OCC.
A
Contract
number
be
dashed
one
six
zero
one:
four
four
KC
PB
17-0
one
one
with
the
first
of
three
possible
one-year
extensions
to
be
exercised
through
June
6
2018
number
five
approved
request
to
waive
bid
requirements
for
the
annual
purchase
of
library,
materials
from
Baker,
&,
Taylor
and
award
purchase
under
the
same
terms,
conditions
and
pricing
as
the
state
of
Florida
contract
pound.
Five:
five
one:
zero
one:
five:
zero,
zero
ACS,
17
180,
18,
zero,
zero,
three
be
an
item.
A
Two
eight
dated
o
six
27
2014
as
amended
o
828
15
and
4
1917
PB
pounds
16-0
to
one
and
the
final
item
approved
a
tentative
agenda
for
the
November
twenty
first
meeting,
which
will
add
the
item
19
that
we
will
that
we
have
motion
to
move
forward
now.
I
need
a
motion.
Don't
move
second
motion
in
a
second.
If
nobody
wishes
to
pull
anything
mayor.
F
I
like
to
making
kind
of
an
explanation
on
on
number
three,
but
also
last
meeting
I
brought
up
the
something
off
the
agenda
that
about
the
minutes
and
I
expected
Eric
to
say
something
about
it
because
he
didn't
catch
it
before.
He
just
didn't
want
to
say
thing
after
I
brought
it
up
so
I
just
wanted.
Everybody
know
that
Eric
had
had
caught
that
he
just
didn't
want
to
follow
me
and
say
well,
I
didn't.
C
H
I
Sir
Dino
nail
for
an
EMS
chief,
we
replace
our
portable
radios,
who
the
radios
we
carry
on
our
hips
approximately
about
every
15
years.
The
last
time
we
did
a
replacement
on
these
was
actually
an
upgrade
eight
years
ago.
The
current
model,
radio,
the
reading
right
now
is
no
longer
supported
by
Motorola
after
2018
two
years
ago,
most
of
the
county
switched
over
because
the
radios
were
several
years
older.
So
we're
really
about
two
years.
I
Behind
that
process,
the
radios
were
currently
using
will
still
work
until
the
new
ones
come
in
and
we
have
a
chance
to
do
training
on
them.
Motorola
Suncoast,
communications
of
Pinellas
County,
is
the
only
vendor
that
we're
allowed
to
purchase
the
only
people
have
a
sole
source
contract
with
Pinellas
County
they're.
The
only
people
were
allowed
to
purchase
radios
from
so
these
radios
will
replace
the
portables
we
have
for
our
staff
vehicles
and
also
for
our
first
out
emergency
vehicles
and.
F
J
Ok,
these
are
just
existing
relationships
that
we
already
have
that
we've
asked
to
extend
for
another
year.
The
other
agenda
items
are
new
relationships
where
we're
piggyback
to
something
else.
The
first
one
specifically
is
for
our
annual
sodium
hydroxide
chemical
supply
at
the
RO
plant.
The
second
one
is
actually
a
true
piggyback,
which
is
a
fancy
way
of
saying
that
we
participated
in
that
process
larger
entity
in
this
case
Sarasota
County.
J
They
asked
for
how
much
our
estimate
is
on
how
much
of
the
product
we're
going
to
use
which,
for
this
one
is
liquid
and
carbon
dioxide,
also
a
chemical
and
we
participate
in
it
without
being
legally
required
to
use
it.
We
choose
to
use
it,
so
we
asked
permission.
We
like
the
price,
and
we
ask
for
person
to
do
that
as
well.
Third,
one
is
the
renewal
of
our
sludge,
hauling
and
disposal
contract
at
the
wrf.
A
So
items
three
and
seven
can
I
have
a
motion
for
those
second
motion
in
the
second
haulers
in
favor.
Oh
I
passed
this
five.
Nothing.
Thank
you.
Next
to
the
city
of
Oldsmar.
First
item
is
consider
the
appointment
of
just
relish
star
last
street
did
I
say
that
right
as
an
alternate
member
of
the
Planning
Board,
if
you
come
up
well,
we
do
this.
I,
don't
know
that
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
meet.
You
I
met.
A
K
I
was
born
in
Miami
and
I've
lived
between
Tampa
and
Miami.
My
whole
life
I
moved
here
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
and
kind
of
fell
in
love
with
the
city.
Definitely
I,
I
caught
the
bug
of
the
old
town
feel
I'm
part
of
the
Chamber
of
Commerce.
My
job
is
Arizona
air
conditioning.
It's
about
two
blocks
away
from
here,
so
I
live
in
old
Tamar
work
in
old,
Tamar,
hangout
and
old.
Tomorrow,
all
day
in
my
garden,
you
probably.
A
I
guess
it's
a
good
board
that
you're
on,
so
thank
you
for
wanting
to
step
forward,
especially
only
being
here,
not
very
long,
so
to
see
the
public
get
involved.
So
thank
you
so
much.
If
nobody
has
any
questions
or
we're
gonna
make
her
sing
or
no
that's
tonight
not
tonight
we
got
a
lot
of
things
otherwise,
we'd
make
you
sing
tonight.
Thank.
H
A
A
F
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
that
and
I
say
this
at
our
volunteer
dinner
that
you
know
this
city
would
not
be
able
to
function
to
the
level
that
it
does
if
it
were
not
for
all
the
different
boards
and
the
people
that
really
commit
to
this
board,
and
you
know
for
the
most
part,
nobody
has
a
vendetta
against
the
city
and
they're
not
on
it
to
do
something
to
derail
or
plan.
So
we
really
appreciate
your
interest
in
the
city,
and
we
thank
you
for
that.
Thank.
A
A
You
know
we
planned
the
Tampa
Road
corridor
and
we
planned
this
and
we
plan
that
and
Bill
Johnson
the
county,
the
city
council,
member
just
looked
at
me,
and
he
goes
so
you
guys
plan
and
I
said
yeah
and
I
guess
I
thought
that
was
an
anomaly,
but
obviously
it's
not
so
thank
you
for
being
part
of
the
planning
board.
So
you.
F
A
The
erosion
of
our
precious
topsoil
by
wind
and
water,
cut
heating
and
cooling
cost
moderate
the
temperature
clean
the
air
produce
oxygen
and
provide
habitat
for
wildlife
and
whereas
trees
in
our
city,
increased
property
values,
enhance
the
economic
value
of
vitality
of
business
areas
and
beautify
our
community
and
whereas
trees,
wherever
they
are
planted,
are
a
source
of
joy
and
spiritual
renewal.
Now,
therefore,
I
dug
beavis
mayor
of
the
city
of
Oldham.
A
Our
Florida
do
hereby
proclaim
November
12th
2017,
as
Arbor
Day
in
the
city
of
olds,
Myrna
urge
all
citizens
to
support
efforts
to
protect
our
trees
in
woodlands
and
to
support
our
cities.
Urban
forestry
program
and
further
I
urge
all
citizens
to
plant
trees,
to
gladden
hearts
and
to
promote
the
well-being
of
this
and
future
generations
dated
this
7th
day
of
November
2017
doesn
t
this
mayor
and
I
will
present
that.
A
Ok,
I'll
give
this
to
whichever
one
of
you
you
can
fight
over.
That's
right,
so
I'll,
let
you
say
something
but
can.
Can
you
tell
I
was
down
at
Veterans
Park
today
and
I
was
down
there
last
week
watching
the
engraving
and
I
can't
remember
what
the
organization
is,
but
there's
a
band
around
a
tree
with
a
plaque
on
it
that
talks
about
the
tree
and
in
the
history
and
the
cost
that
it
saves
in
in
reducing
pollution
and
things
like
that.
I,
don't
know.
N
We
partnered
with
the
University
of
Florida
to
provide
the
tree
walk,
and
so
it
identifies
the
economic
benefits
of
trees.
You
know
when
you
read
the
proclamation
all
that
stuff
doesn't
address,
that
the
tree
canopy
is
an
extremely
important
economic
asset
of
the
city
of
Oldsmar
and
that
since
we
value
parkland
and
trees,
that
is
one
of
our
fundamental
values
in
this
community.
A
A
F
B
B
Twelve
I'll
read
that
ordinance
by
title
only
and
order
is
declaring
the
intention
of
the
city
of
Oldsmar
Florida
Dannic,
certain
real
property
located
in
section
22,
Township
28,
south
rein,
16
east
further
described
as
Lot
seven
block
18
map
of
section
number,
one
West
old,
warm
personal
number,
twenty-two
twenty
eight,
sixteen,
nine
six,
six,
six
zero
zero
one;
eight
zero,
zero,
seven
zero
into
the
corporate
limits
of
the
city
of
oldsmar
and
providing
for
the
effect
today.
This
ordinance,
that's
the
second
final
reading
of
ordinance,
2017
12
by
title.
Only
of
course,
public
hearing.
A
B
A
D
F
H
F
L
F
A
L
A
B
Tip
number
17
on
your
agenda
is
a
request
for
authorization
to
accept
an
offer
settlement
on
a
water
lane
and
emergency
abatement
liens
on
the
property
located
six
forty-nine
timber
base
circle
east.
This
is
a
property
where
the
city
spent
some
significant
time,
cleaning
up
and
demoing
it
back
in
the
years
2010
through
2012,
and
there
were
a
number
of
emergency
abatement
liens
placed
on
the
property
to
protect
the
city's
interest
subsequent
to
or
prior
to
those
liens
being
recorded.
The
property
went
into
foreclosure.
B
That's
the
reason
why
it's
referred
to
as
a
partial
release.
It's
only
releasing
the
property
from
that
lien,
which
would
frankly
had
already
been
wiped
out
in
the
foreclosure.
So
this
has
found
money
for
the
city.
We
will
collect
that
$3500.
If
you
authorizes
it
will
also
collect
all
of
the
water
lien
to
23:08.
In
addition
to
that,
we
will
continue
to
attempt
to
collect
the
remainder
balance
from
the
prior
owners,
who
were
the
Parkers,
Darlene
Parker
and
her
husband
I
think
does
Ted
Parker.
B
It's
not
very
good,
but
at
least
this
is
something
you
know.
The
lien
will
remain
against
the
Parkers
for
20
years
from
the
day
that
it
was
recorded.
So
if
they
went
out
and
they
bought
any
other
non
homesteaded
real
property
work,
we
found
that
they
own
personal
property
that
had
some
significant
value
to
it.
We
would
we
would
go
after
that
as
well.
For
example,
if
they
had
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
RV
that
had
no
underlying
lien
on
it.
That
would
be
something
that
we'd
be
going
after
the
lien
attaches
to
that
Tom.
A
And
motion
for
purpose
of
discussion
second
motion
in
a
second
I
have
a
question
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
something
that's
of
interest
to
the
rest
of
the
council.
I
know
we
kind
of
went
to
go
through
this
process
periodically
with
the
Planning
Department.
When
someone
says
about
you
know
the
time
it
takes
to
get
a
permit
process
and
Marie
and
her
staff,
you
know
diligently
put
together
a
timeline
that
says
you
know
when
the
permit
came
in
blah,
blah
blah,
blah
and
kind
of
creates
the
timeline.
A
It
would
be
interesting
for
me
and
if
it's
a
council,
maybe
we
can
make
it
as
an
agenda
item
for
a
quick
explanation
if
not
I'll
sit
with
Tom
and
get
it,
but
to
kind
of
go
through
a
typical
process
of
you
know,
maybe
why
it
gets
up
to
70
something
thousand
dollars
because
I'm
sure
it
has
something
to
do
with.
You
got
to
wait
till
the
bank
finally
takes
the
property
back,
so
there's
something
to
go
after
all
right.
A
B
The
very
simple
answer
is:
is
that
liens
keep
growing,
because
the
fact
that
property
owner
does
not
bring
the
property
into
compliance
right?
Otherwise
it's
just
interest,
so
the
big
dollar
items
you
know
up
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
day
for
code
violations
if
they,
for
example,
they're
ordered
to
cut
their
grass
and
they
sit
on
it
for
ten
years.
Well,
$250
a
day
adds
up
and
they
could
have
rent
rendered
or
you
know,
brought
into
compliance
simply
by
running
a
lawn
mower
over
it.
A
B
Are
a
little
bit
different,
these
aren't
code
enforcement,
liens
and
tremors
the
abatement
land.
So,
for
example,
we
sent
our
city
crews
out
there
to
cut
the
grass
to
clean
it
up
to
board
it
up.
In
some
cases
we
demolished
homes
and
we
put
a
lien
against
the
property.
That's
what
these
liens
are,
for.
It
wasn't
code
enforcement
issues,
but.
A
B
We
would
we
would
write
a
demand
letter,
normally
I
wait
90
days
after
the
original
lien
is
recorded,
and
then
a
rated
demand
letter
to
the
property
owner
at
demanding
that
it
be
paid
some
of
these
liens,
though
the
older
ones.
You
know,
even
though
there
is
a
list
of
them,
I
have
not
pursued
them.
Okay,
I've
waited
until
such
time
as
they
come
up
like
in
these
foreclosure
actions,
but
we
can
pursue
them.
Okay,.
A
I,
just
in
this
particular
case
I
guess
the
bank
is
wanting
to
release
it
for
sale
of
the
property,
so
I
mean
I'm
going
through
one
of
those
right
now
with
one
direct
clients.
So
is
it
and
is
there
a
particular
reason
it's
not
worth
the
effort
to
not
go
after
them
without
them
coming
to
us
first
I
guess
there.
B
Are
some
of
them
that
are
under
$3,500,
and
this
City
Council
has
adopted
a
resolution
number
of
years
ago
that
says
that
we
will
not
pursue
legal
action
on
something
that
is
less
than
3,500
on
the
other
ones?
You
know,
I,
don't
have
a
specific
answer
for
you,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
you
know,
give
you
the
list
then
has
a
list.
She
provided
it
to
me,
I
think
last
year.
B
F
Got
a
question
tom
this
may
be
in
the
Charter
I
don't
know,
but
when
the
liens
get
so
high,
I
always
thought
they
had
to
come,
because
I
was
wrong,
that
they
had
to
come
to
Council
for
forgiveness.
Is
there
a
way
that
the
code
enforcement
boat
board
can
actually
forgive
liens
for
forgive
those
are
liens
there.
B
Is
a
provision
under
Chapter,
yes,
partially
under
Chapter
162,
the
Florida
Statutes?
It
gives
them
the
authority
to
reduce
the
fine,
but
that's
usually
within
about
a
30-day
window
of
the
fine
being
liquidated.
In
other
words,
that
came
to
the
code
enforcement
board
and
you
know
they
brought
it
into
compliance
after
the
order.
They
have
about
a
30-day
window
that
the
code
enforcement
board
saw
his
jurisdiction
of
the
case.
F
B
Don't
know
which
one
that
would
be,
but
there
it
could
be,
that
they
brought
it
into
compliance
and
when
they
brought
it
into
compliance.
The
code
enforcement
board
has
a
rule
of
procedure
that,
within
30
days
of
the
compliance
they
have
the
right
to
petition
for
reduction
to
fine
and
the
code
enforcement
board
can
reduce
it.
So
that's
one
other
aspect:
they
have
a
portion
of
their
rules
that
allows
for
that.
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
this
one.
Okay,.
O
This
weekend,
who
mentioned
just
off
the
cuff,
that
she
had
like
a
ten
thousand
dollar
lien
from
years
ago
that
the
city
had
against
her.
That
was
under
her
husband's
name
for
like
a
carport,
he
had
built
at
one
point
and
tore
down
and-
and
you
know,
she's
been
here
a
long
time-
she's
aren't
really
having
hardships
with
other
items,
utility
bills,
etc
and
I'm.
Just
thinking
are
we
ever
really
gonna
collect
this
money
in
it.
Well,
I
wonder
what
it's
really
foreign
is
it
necessary
so.
P
O
Some
circumstances
like
that
just
be
curious
to
look
through
the
list,
and
so
you
could
to
make
sure
we're
not
putting
additional
hardship
on
someone
like
say
it
was
a
lawn
mowing
thing
and
maybe
they
didn't
live
there
or
couldn't
get
there.
You
know
I'm,
just
I'm
just
be
curious.
What's
I'm
sure
most
of
them
are
just
I'm
just
be
we.
B
B
Wouldn't
want
to
do
that,
but
the
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
to
you
just
briefly,
is
that
there
are
some
liens
out
there
in
properties
that
are
homesteaded
and
under
the
Florida
Constitution
and
under
Chapter
162.
The
statutes
there's
a
specific
prohibition
that
we
can't
foreclose
those
liens
that
are
in
homestead
property.
So
there
are
some
of
those
out
there
that
we
literally
just
can't
do
anything
with,
but
you
can
leave
the
lien
on
it.
The
lien
will
stay
on,
Leena
will
be
on
all
of
their
non
homesteaded
real
property.
Okay,.
H
Give
you
a
quick
example
back
in
the
oh
wait:
oh
nine
East
Lake,
okay
put
a
lot
of
liens
on
some
foreclosed
homes,
because
the
sea
voles
when
I
was
actually
cutting
some
of
the
lawns,
and
we
had
up
to
three
thousand
dollars
in
some
of
these
homes.
Now
that
they've
sold
we've
our
HOA
recouped
all
that
money,
yeah.
A
B
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
number
eighteen.
This
is
the
public
hearing
with
regard
to
the
adoption
of
the
Oldsmar
towns,
LLC
development
agreement
for
a
50,
single-family
attached,
townhome
subdivision
and
the
properties
located
south
of
st.
Petersburg,
Drive,
east
of
the
Oldsmar
library
and
north
of
Arlington
Avenue.
This
is
the
second
time
that
this
has
been
before
you
and
Maria
I'm.
Not
sure
do
you
have
anything
that
you
want
to
add
to
the
presentation
about
the
development
agreement
itself
so
mayor.
B
There
have
been
a
couple
of
changes
in
the
development
agreement
itself
and
those
changes
are
having
to
do
with
the
amenities
area
and
I'm,
hoping
that
everyone
has
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
those.
We
tried
to
address
the
concerns
that
were
brought
at
the
last
council
meeting.
You
will
see
an
exhibit
G.
There
was
also
a
designation
of
where
the
the
vinyl
barrier
will
be
the
wall
around
the
amenity
area.
B
You
know
also
note
that
the
acreage
is
set
and
the
dollar
amounts
for
the
stormwater
management
buy-in,
that's
shown
in
Exhibit
E,
it's
one
hundred
and
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
the
parkland
dedication
fee.
Pursuant
to
our
land,
development
code
is
one
hundred
one
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
seven
dollars
and
ten
cents,
and
this
does
require
a
public
hearing
for
consideration
of
development
agreement.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
additional
questions.
If
you
have
them
the.
A
Q
Dave
Jogi
505,
Arlington,
Avenue
East
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
that
I
am
opposed
to
the
project,
as
I
stated
in
my
email
from
the
last
meeting
and
at
the
previous
hearings
simply
because
of
its
an
increase
in
density
and
I'm.
Just
categorically
opposed
to
increasing
densities
by
changing
our
land
uses.
Q
I
was
not
able
to
attend
the
last
meeting,
but
I
did
watch
the
meeting
and
I
do
have
to
make
a
correction
of
the
mayor
city
manager
and
most
of
the
City
Council
referenced
me
being
on
the
Planning
Board
that
I
missed
the
meeting.
So
that's
why
I
didn't
vote
I
had
to
leave
the
Planning
Board
in
year
2000
when
I
got
elected,
City,
Council
and
I
have
not
been
found
the
board
since
then
I.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Landscaping
is
the
15-foot
still
remain,
and
on
what
side
of
the
fence
is
the
landscaping
going
to
be
I?
Bring
this
up
only
because
when
some
of
the
hotels
were
going
in
town
and
a
tall,
concrete
wall,
I
believe
an
8
foot
wall
was
put
up
to
separate
the
commercial
use
from
the
residential
areas
and
I
believe
at
the
time
either
Planning,
Board
or
Council
said
well.
Q
We
want
a
lot
of
landscaping
to
soften
that
wall
on
the
residential
side
and
there's
a
couple
of
little
remnants,
maybe
but
a
lot
of
landscaping
I
believe
was
put
on
the
property
owners
side
and
not
on
the
residents
side,
and
it
didn't
quite
serve
the
purpose.
Look.
The
request
for
landscaping
didn't
serve
its
purpose,
the
way
it
finally
got
in
so
you
know
if
the
maybe
the
landscaping
can
be
split
on
two
sides
of
the
fence,
something
like
that:
a
soften
it
from
both
sides.
Q
Q
F
Q
And
the
final
thing
only
because
I
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting
and
I
do
want
to
make
a
comment
on
the
price
that
was
paid
for
the
property.
You
know
at
the
meeting.
You
were
talking
about
a
property
right
over
here
that
you're
willing
to
pay
much
more
than
an
appraised
value
to
try
to
get
the
piece
of
property
and
down
here
you're
willing
to
get
rid
of
a
piece
of
property
for
a
whole
lot
less
than
even
the
minimum
appraised
value
and
I.
Q
Just
don't
think
it's
right
that
we,
even
though
we
did
turn
a
profit
on
the
property
that
we're
selling
it
for
so
much
less
than
its
market
value.
Oh
I'm,
talking
about
that
and
that
we're
selling
it
first
without
it
ever
really
being
on
the
market.
Yes,
people
weren't
running
in
the
door
saying
I
want
to
buy
that
I
want
to
buy
that,
but
has
there
ever
been
a
great
big
goal
for
sale,
sign
down
there
saying
who's
interested
and,
and
we
surely
shouldn't
have
sold
it
for
300,000?
A
O
A
K
Name
is
star:
last
drive,
106
st.
Petersburg
drive
East,
while
I
understand
a
lot
of
the
residents
on
Arlington
Avenue
want
the
one
exit,
because
I
understand
how
they're
gonna
be
affected.
I
have
three
story:
homes
that
are
being
built
right
across
the
street.
From
my
home.
All
of
these
50
50
homes
exiting
on
to
just
st.
Petersburg
Drive
East.
Everyone
see
st.
Petersburg
Drive
is
gonna,
create
a
lot
of
traffic
in
the
morning.
A
O
O
A
A
A
A
F
M
A
F
F
F
There's
other
things
I
want
to
tell
now:
everybody
Gabby
did
you
did
Dan
de
and
Eric
dad
and
I
did
four
Hunza
go.
We
voted
for
the
CBRE.
We
voted
for
that
I
thought
was
a
pretty
good
idea
and
then
four
months
later,
gabbing
and
Dan,
and
you
voted
against
to
see
big
RC.
Why
did
you
move
forward
and
then
sit
and
then
try
to
vote
against
it?
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me.
F
We're
gonna
hire
CBRE
to
tell
us
what
the
land
value
is
and
that
it
helped
us
develop
that,
and
so
they
come
back
thanks
to
Eric
that
wouldn't
even
happen
and
it's
had
had
brought
had
broadened.
It
had
brought
it
whichever
his
correct
English
had
broadened
it
up.
It
was
well.
Why
aren't
we
going
and
asking
CBRE
we
hired
him
what
the
land
value
is,
so
they
come
back
thanks
to
Eric.
They
came
back
says
it's
probably
worth
one
point,
one
and
one
point
two
million
and
we're
selling
it
over
$800,000.
F
So
yeah
we
are
there's
a
possibility.
We
are
losing
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
in
the
land,
sale
and
I
say:
what's
what's
the
big
rush
on
this
okay,
my
question
is:
if
you're
going
to
hire
somebody
like
CB
RC
and
then
turn
around
four
months
later
and
vote
against
it.
That's
to
me
that
says
something
about
the
council
and
their
judgments.
F
F
F
If
I
was
in
an
election
in
years
to
come,
I
would
love
to
be
in
a
debate
with
y'all
I
would
love
to
be
in
a
public
debate
with
y'all
on
just
this
item
right
here.
You
voted
for
the
CBRE
and
four
months
later,
you
voted
against
it.
I
would
love
to
hear
egos
explanation
and
that's
as
far
as
I'll
go
and.
A
F
We
hired
him
and
I
remembered
that
that
was
the
main
purpose
drives.
The
next
door
was
fine,
but
this
city
owns
a
lot
of
property,
a
ton
of
property,
and
so
when
I
voted
for
that,
I
voted
for
it
for
every
major
piece
we
have.
We
have
more
major
pieces
of
property
than
what's
next
door.
Well,
I
understand
that
and
I
want.
Somebody
like
that
to
come
in
and
guide
us
through
that
I
understand.
But
it
didn't
happen
that
way:
okay,
so
we're
going
to
lose
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars.
F
A
F
F
No
they're
not
willing
they
did.
Okay,
but
I
mean
we.
We've
owned
this
piece
of
property
for
a
long
time.
We
haven't
even
advertised
a
week
and
nobody
hardly
see
I,
don't
understand
how
this
happened.
So
quick.
It's
irritating
to
me
that
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
brought
up
it's
the
same
way
with
School
Street
I
doubt
that
I
doubt
that
they
asked
for
school,
Street,
School
Street
was
put
on
in
this.
F
The
city
manager
wanted
School,
Street
open
and
that's
fine.
They
didn't
ask
for
work.
I
bet
you
well
I
can't
do
that.
Cuz
I
can
I
bet
you.
They
were
told
they
had
to
open
School
Street.
No,
they
can
say
no
that
didn't
happen
that
way,
and
then
I
have
to
accept
that,
but
see
this
whole
thing
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me,
but
you
all
voted
for
four
months
later,
you
voted
against.
F
F
O
Can
answer
it
right
now?
I
would
say
that
a
group
like
CBRE
we
hired
to
give
us
guidance
and,
at
the
end,
the
day
as
a
council.
It's
our
decision
to
make
the
best
decision
for
the
city
and
I
will
say
that
I
will
defend
my
decision.
1
I
agree
with
Doug
that
it's
worth
what
someone's
willing
to
pay
for
it.
I'll
give
you
an
example:
the
property
across
the
street
has
been
owned
by
John
boos
for
a
very
long
time
who
has
had
a
plan
drawn
out.
I've
actually
seen
those
plans.
F
O
Very
good
developer
that
makes
very
smart
decisions
that
partners
with
the
city
who
has
owned
that
property
for
more
than
five
years.
I
have
seen
the
plans
in
writing
five
years
ago
before
I
was
even
on
council.
They
have
still
not
come
to
fruition,
so
granted
per
se.
John
says
I
think
that's
a
great
piece
of
property
sold.
F
O
Saying
let's
say:
John
was
like
I'm
interested
in
that
property:
I'm
gonna
buy
it
today,
but,
let's
just
say
for
say
he
can't
build
it
on
it
for
eight
years,
because
he's
also
gonna
build
on
the
property
across
the
street.
Do
I
want
to
wait
eight
years
for
another
development
to
be
built
to
actually
create
a
downtown
here
in
Oldsmar
I?
Don't
I
went
door-to-door
this
weekend
with
residents
on
Country,
Club,
Drive
and
one
woman
said:
why
is
it
so
hard
to
get
a
downtown?
O
Why
is
it
so
difficult
so
I
had
conversations
with
her
about
density
and
that
you
have
to
have
rez
in
downtown
to
support
restaurants
and
boutiques,
etc.
So
one
I
can
defend
my
decision
to
see
brdu
didn't
stand
up
and
say
don't
move
forward.
They
just
said
we
asked
for
their
opinion
on
a
value
and
appraisal.
I'm.
O
O
Agreed
that
it
should
be
there
in
the
first
place
for
second
entrance
for
a
potential
cross
through
once
there's
a
downtown
so
and
and
I'll
also
say
personally
I
just
sold.
Now
it's
a
residential,
not
commercial,
but
I,
had
a
party
that
was
very
interested
in
the
home
before
I,
even
put
it
on
the
market
they
put
in
six
offers
cash
for
the
property.
O
I
went
through
all
of
the
work
with
them
inspections,
etc,
and
it
and
at
one
point
he
just
decided
to
drop
out
and
that
interested
very
interested
buyer
was
no
longer
under
contract
with
me
and
then
I
had
to
work
to
get
another
offer.
But
all
I'm
saying
is
you
could
have
interested
parties.
You
can
push
them
to
pay
more
because
you
think
it's
worth
a
certain
amount
and
you
could
also
push
them
out
of
the
deal
as
well.
O
So
I
I,
say
I
think
that
it's
a
good
development
I
think
it's
the
right
time
in
the
market.
There's
a
lot
of
great
things
happening
in
the
city.
We've
got
new
grocery
stores,
new
restaurants,
new
businesses,
new
things
happening
with
the
park.
It's
a
great
time
to
add
a
little
bit
more
density
in
the
right
character
in
the
right
size
for
future
residences
to
support
those
new
businesses.
So
I
do
I
stand
by
my
decision.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
great
development.
O
F
O
P
F
F
F
H
To
tell
you
I
agree
with
Gabby
and
what
she's
saying
the
main.
The
main
thing
is:
the
access
for
the
school
street,
the
expense
the
city
doesn't
have
to
pay
for
school,
Street,
I.
Think
that's
a
big
thing.
This
weekend,
I
went
to
the
wine
festival
at
safety,
harbor
and
walk
that
place.
It
was
over
I,
don't
know
how
many
20,000
people
that
place
was
packed,
and
that
is
a
downtown
area
that
I
would
like
to
see
here
in
Oldsmar
and
that's
just
step
one.
This
development
is
just
step
one
of
heading
in
that
direction.
F
H
A
E
Q
E
You
know
I,
you
know
I've
made
my
opinion
well
known,
as
is
it
related
to
the
price
and
that
I
thought
that
you
know
I
thought
that
and
I
hope
moving
forward
that,
because
we're
going
to
find
ourselves
in
this
position
a
lot
in
downtown.
Maybe
if
we
parcel
out
that
we
utilize
all
the
tools
available
to
us
and
also
you
know,
I
think
it
starts
to
send
a
consistency
message
that,
if
it's
not
in
the
range
from
what
our
consultants
said,
we're
probably
not
going
to
be
as
inclined
to
move
forward.
E
E
You
know
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
plans
have
come
back
with
the
compromises
that
the
council
asked
for
the
fence
went
further
than
I
think
we
would
have
expected.
It
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
also
aesthetically,
pleasing
and
so
I
appreciate
that
kind
of
effort
to
it.
I
I've
not
been
a
opponent
of
the
development,
because
I
too
believe
in
order
for
us
to
ultimately
have
a
successful,
downtown,
downtown
I.
E
I
think
that
we
are
going
to
need
more
density
to
ensure
its
success.
The
last
thing
we
ever
want
to
do
is
with
all
this
land
that
we
have
up
here.
That's
taken
years
and
years
to
collect
and
purchase
is
to
build
a
ghost
town,
and
so-
and
this
to
me,
looks
like
a
very
nice-looking
project.
I
think
it
well,
you
know,
there's
we
have
an
experience
curve
also
with
the
developer.
Who's
done
good
work
and
really
find
projects.
E
You
know
I
do
wish.
We
would
have
got
more
money
for
the
property,
but
it's
you
know,
certainly
not
the
end
of
the
world.
It's
important.
We
get
what
we
want.
I
like
the
fact
that
there's
been
compromises
in
it.
I
too,
don't
believe
that
school
street
should
have
you
ever
been
there,
but
it
is
and
that's
the
way
the
cookie
crumbles.
Sometimes,
but
at
least
there's
been
some
compromise
on
it.
I
think
it's
a
I
speak
in
favor
of
the
approval,
I
think
the
compromises
of
work.
E
It's
a
good
looking
project.
We
have
the
site
plan
in
front
of
us.
Clearly,
we
saw
the
site
plan
before
thanks
to
councilman
B,
Berlin
I,
think
that
was
a
good
point.
It
should
be
a
practice
from
now
on,
something
like
that
comes
up,
and
so,
in
any
event,
I'm
satisfied
with
it
I
appreciate
the
compromise
and
how
far
the
developers
is
going
to
accommodate
the
concerns.
The
neighborhood
and
I.
H
O
F
There,
with
that
gonna
be
nice
to
have
an
8
foot
wall.
They
ended
with
a
6
foot
wall,
but
anyway
you
know
the
thing
is
going
to
pass
and
that's
fine
it'll,
probably
a
fine
development
will,
you
know,
will
get
tax
dollars
from
it
so
on
and
so
on
and
so
on.
But
the
inconsistency
of
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
and
it
will
never
make
any
sense
to
me.
E
And
I
will
say
this
because
I
was
the
one
who
brought
it
up
earlier
in
the
process.
You
know
we
slowed
the
boat
down
originally
cuz
it.
You
know
it
was
in
a
unique
deal.
I
mean
frankly,
it
was
a
unique
deal
in
the
sense
that
we
weren't
out
advertising
the
property
and
so
forth.
But
someone
came
to
us
with
a
vision
that
fit
into
our
vision,
and
so
you
know
there's
good
for
them
right.
It
sparked
something
happening
that
the
property's
been
there
for
a
long
time.
E
Their
journey,
let
me
finish,
we
did
leave
it
out
there
longer
and
yeah.
It
wasn't
abused
as
himself,
but
you
know:
I
had
heard
that
and
actually
I
spoke
to
someone
who
expressed
an
interest
and
and
I
said.
Well,
you
know
look,
we
don't
have
a
deal
done,
but
we
are
dealing
and
you
know
we
certainly
welcome
any
competition.
It's
not
you
know
being
steered
to
one
particular
individual
and
actually
you
know
the
conversation
that
I
had
because
I'm
very
sensitive
about
conversations
about
something.
That's
good
without
me.
E
Taking
notes
now
so
that
I
can
report
it
as
to
what
the
conversation
was.
Here's
what
I
did
I
said.
If
you
really
want
to
know
what
happened
to
last
meeting
I'm
gonna
email,
you
a
link
to
oles
of
our
connects,
read
the
story.
They
got
it
right.
Mm-Hmm
it'll,
give
you
an
update,
it's
public
information
and
that's
what
I
did
and
I
never
heard
back,
and
so
you
know
there
was
some
interest
from
other
folks.
They
didn't,
they
didn't
take
action,
they
didn't
initiate
the
whole
project.
They
didn't
have
that
vision.
F
I'm
gonna
tell
you
this
I
brought
this
up
the
Bruce
and
Bruce
Oh
said
said:
oh
no,
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
I
know
what
we
own
in
this
town.
In
fact,
I
take
part
of
the
credit
Bruce
in
1988
brought
up.
He
wanted
buy
four
Lots
on
Lafayette
and
the
council
turned
him
down
five
to
nothing
and
when
I
was
elected
in
1990
I
said
put
it
back
on
the
agenda.
He
said
I
don't
want
to
because
they
all
he
turned
me
down
and
I
said:
I
wasn't
on
the
council
at
that
time.
F
I
want
to
back
on
their
of
course,
Bruce
and
I
didn't
get
a
whole
along
in
the
first
two
or
three
years.
I
was
on
council,
so
he
put
it
back
on
there
and
it
was
four
to
one
to
buy
the
four
Lots
that
saved
us
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
later
when
we
did
the
Burbank
drainage,
okay
and
so
I
brought
this
up.
The
Bruce
and
I
went
now
I'm
going
to
do
it
in
public.
F
We
need
to
take
every
square
foot
of
land
that
this
city
owns
and
we
need
to
put
it
so
we
see
it
and
we
need
to
make
some
determination
of
what
kind
of
criteria
we're
going
to
have
to
sell
that
land.
We
want
a
piece
of
land
on
Tampa
Road.
That's
one
of
these
days.
One
of
these
days,
we're
gonna,
have
somebody
come
in
here
and
I
think
this
council
or
the
next
council.
F
A
Just
have
a
couple
of
comments
in
Tareq's
point:
we've
already
approved
the
purchase,
but
I
can
tell
you
in
answer
to
some
of
the
things
that
have
done,
that
I've,
experienced
selling
and
also
being
on
the
development
side
is
that
they
don't
care.
If
it's
on
the
market,
a
lot
of
developers
they're
out
there
actively
looking
for
it,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
for
sale,
they're,
looking
to
assemble
property,
they're
looking
to
find
vacant
property
I.
Do
it
all
the
time
at
the
office.
A
You
know,
I
see
a
vacant
piece
of
property,
I
tag
on
it
find
out
who
the
owner
is
and
reach
out
to
them.
That's
equally
easy
for
somebody
to
do
with
any
of
the
property
that
we've
done.
I've
done
it
for
a
city
of
ultimart
property,
I
didn't
know
we
owned
it.
I
was
looking
at
it
and
I
contacted
Bruce
about
it.
A
But
you
know
we
owned
all
the
way
up
to
state
all
the
way
up
to
State
Street
as
well
and
to
me
this
sets
the
precedent
for
those
developments,
not
only
what
could
go
on
it,
but
the
value
of
them
I
think
that's
going
to
increase
the
value
of
those
properties
as
well
so
and,
as
we've
all
said,
I
think
this
is
the
first
peg
in
in
spurring
the
the
catalyst
up,
st.
Pete,
Drive
and
down
State
Street,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
look
at
the
overall
value
of
the
project.
A
F
What
I
think
we
should
take
all
the
land
we
own
and
go
ahead
and
go
ahead
and
tag
it
and
discuss
what
we
want?
Okay,
I'm
gonna
tell
you
right
now:
I,
don't
want
the
rest
of
that
property
to
go
to
high-rises
our
townhouses,
then
that
doesn't
do
a
thing
for
your
restaurants,
because
you
won't
have
a
restaurant
down
there.
Well.
F
A
F
But
if
you
went
down
there
with
talent
houses
for
the
whole
other
for
the
rest
of
the
half
for
the
rest
of
the
land,
and
you
keep
talking
about
restaurants,
you
won't
have
any
restaurants
down
there
and
I
think
it's
it's
up
to
us
to
tag
all
of
our
land
and
at
least
make
some
kind
of
a
determination
what
we
want
on
the
rest
of
the
land.
So
we
won't
have
town
houses
all
the
way
down
in.
A
Q
E
That
you
know
there's
you
know,
there's
more
citizens
that
can
support
and
sustain
there's,
probably
a
good
way
to
say
it.
I
mean
you
drive
up
and
down
yeah
I,
say
it
all
the
time
Friday
Saturday
night,
all
of
our
places
are
booked
they're,
busy,
they're,
you
know
so
on
and
so
forth.
You
keep
building
okay.
What
happens
that
right
and
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
I'm
still
striking.
F
E
Sorry,
something
to
your
point,
though,
see
I
I,
think
your
your
suggestion
for
us
to
take
all
of
the
property
we're
own
and
start
to
put
some
kind
of
long-term
plan
of
what
we
want
to
see
where
I
don't
know
that
I
agree
with
that
and
I'll
tell
you
why
I
like
the
idea
was
banking
I'm,
soaring
King
land.
We.
E
But
so
sometimes
there's
land
that
counsels
that
you,
let
or
other
councils
before
any
of
us
were
on
had
the
vision
that
this
property
is
available.
Let's
buy
it,
this
property
is
available
and
it
wasn't
until
years
later
that
we
really
know
what
we
ultimately
needed
it
for
I
do
agree
that
we
should
come
up
with
a
policy
or
procedure
on
when
we're
contacted,
and
so
it's
out
there.
So
it's
known
to
anybody.
C
E
Another
piece
of
property
for
us,
which
it
might
be
the
perfect
vision
right,
but
that
it's
known
that,
when
you
come
to
us
part
of
our
process,
is
that
we
are
going
to
have
a
period
of
time
that
we
put
it
out
there
specifically
to
encourage
other
people
to
come,
compete,
that's
what
I'm
talking
about,
and
so
that
I
think
would
serve
us
well
and
and
ultimately
would
be
setting
new
ground
rules.
So
we're
not
moving
them
around
and
like
okay,
who
do
you
even
negotiate
with
over
there
anymore
right?
P
O
P
O
With
the
students
to
build
out
a
plan
for
which
included
same
P,
Drive,
Park,
Boulevard
and-
and
if
you
remember
the
piece
of
property
right
next
to
the
library
was
townhouses.
If
you
look
at
their
plan
that
they
put
together
for
us
now
it
wasn't,
we
all
agreed.
This
is
going
to
be
the
plan
of
the
future.
That
was
what
those
students
that
we
supported
their
project
had
envisioned.
A
Just
got
one
more
comment:
you
must
have
read
my
mind:
I
was
we
talked
about
another
movie,
this
long,
because
we've
kind
of
gotten
away
from
the
development
agreement
talking
about
philosophies
and
things
like
that.
But
to
that
point
you
know
we
mentioned
safety.
Harbor
I
was
down
there.
You
say
the
same
thing
about
Dunedin
and
this
came
up
at
our
USF
meeting.
Was
they
have
one
Street?
A
A
P
F
Sure
they
maintain
it,
no
I
want
an
answer.
I
brought
that
up
at
the
last
meeting.
Look
we
make
them.
We
make
them,
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
their
on
their
landscaping
down
Tampa
Road
yeah.
We
make
them
send
a
lot
of
money
on
it,
and
then
we
go
hide
our
head
in
a
drive
down
Tampa
Road
and
see
how
all
that
landscape
we
made
him
put
in
help
ugly.
It
looks
some.
P
F
A
A
F
A
F
L
J
You
mayor
item
19,
as
we
know,
is
been
postponed
item
20
approved
purchase
of
vacant
land
from
Collier
Leonard
Koontz
located
on
the
northeast.
Excuse
me
northeast
side
of
the
intersection
of
Hayes
Road
and
Douglas
Road
West.
There's
an
attached
map
in
your
agenda
item.
The
parcel
identification
is
two
three
two,
eight
one,
six,
six,
three
nine
three
six
two
one:
zero:
zero,
zero:
four
zero:
the
city
has
entered
into
a
contract
conditional
upon
council
approval
with
the
owner
for
a
sale
price
of
$75,000
few
side
notes.
This
is
a
ongoing
negotiation.
J
F
F
You
see
that
piece
of
yodel
property
on
Douglas
Road,
it's
pretty
good-sized
proper,
isn't
it
my
beautiful
wife
and
I
in
and
in
babe
right
we
gave
the
city
that
property
for
nothing
then
return.
We
donated
it
City.
We
gave
it
to
the
city,
my
beautiful
wife
and
me
and
babe
ride,
and
thanks
to
Al
he's
the
first
city
official
ever
to
thank
us.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
I.
H
A
F
A
E
E
F
F
F
J
Did
a
lot
more
than
I
did
yeah
I
think
we're
ready
item
21.
This
is
a
request
for
approval
for
an
amendment
to
an
existing
interlocal
agreement
between
Pinellas
County
and
most
of
the
municipalities
in
the
county
regarding
the
cost
share
needed
to
satisfy
the
requirements
of
the
NPDES
ms4
permit,
which
apply
to
water
quality
and
biological
monitoring.
J
I've
asked
John
Oh
John,
our
assistant
public
works
director
to
be
available
to
answer
any
technical
questions
which
are
so
far,
at
least
to
this
point
a
little
beyond
my
abilities.
But
this
is
essentially
just
an
amendment
to
an
existing
interlocal
agreement
that
all
but
three
of
the
municipalities
in
the
county
have
signed,
and
it's
almost
big
housekeeping
right
formality.
A
A
J
Yeah
I
don't
wente
to
approve
the
request
to
waive
the
requirements
and
authorize
the
purchase
of
a
2018,
Chevrolet
Silverado
1500
two-wheel
drive,
crew
cab,
pickup
truck
from
Allen
J
fleet
sales,
utilizing
the
National
joint
powers
Alliance
or
as
we
prefer,
the
ven
JPA
contract
number
one:
two:
zero:
seven,
one:
six
dash
n
AF,
which
stands
for
the
national
auto
fleet
piggyback
number.
Seventeen
zero,
zero
to
D
the
contract
is
valid
through
January
16th
2021.
J
There
I
removed
this
from
the
consent
agenda
because
it's
for
the
purchase
of
a
vehicle
that
was
in
the
budget
for
the
city
manager
and
I
felt
I
needed
to
at
least
specifically
address
that
without
leaving
it
among
the
others.
Obviously
I'm
going
to
say
that
the
manager
recommends
approval,
but
it's
under
budget
it
is
flex
the
flex
fuel
capable
and
it
can
be
plugged
into
the
fleet
at
any
time
if
needed,
I'll.
A
E
E
F
We
had
a
major
hurricane
here
in
a
gunny
East
Shore
Drive
I
mean
they've,
got
the
houses
on
each
store
Drive.
So
but
Lister
King
to
me
and
say:
I
want
to
use
two
of
your
roofing
big
roofing
trucks.
I
said
sure
go
ahead.
So
what
does
he
do?
He
takes
two
of
my
big
roofing
trucks
and
it
goes
down,
runs
14
wheels
going
through
the
salt
water,
helping
all
the
people
down
there
and
then,
when
it
was
all
finished.
A
G
A
E
E
I
want
to
make
a
point
of
thanking
the
city
team
that
came
out
and
worked
at
Oktoberfest,
really
appreciate
it.
Everyone
who
was
out
there
raise
your
hand,
I
have
to
call
the
names
and
some
other
folks
I
know.
Gina
Rogers
was
out
there
and
we
had
a
lot
of
other
folks.
We
appreciate
it
chamber
appreciates
it
and,
as
someone
who
was
chairing
the
team,
I
really
appreciate
it
go
for
a
cause.
The
mayor
spoke
about
that
at
the
beginning,
November
18
12:00
to
4:00.
E
E
H
You
mayor,
the
only
thing
I
have
is
Saturday
night
I
spent
some
time
with
Joe
the
mayor
of
safety.
However
you're
walking
up
and
down
the
street,
that
was
just
an
amazing
event
that
Wine
Festival
they
have
going
on
over.
There
I
would
love
to
see
that
someday
in
our
city.
It
was
pretty
pretty
intense,
all
the
food
vendors
they
had.
H
It
was
just
a
great
event
that
they
put
on
over
there,
and
the
only
other
thing
I
have
is
the
Holly
Jolly
trolley
tour.
When
we
did
the
Centennial,
we
got
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
at
the
Historical
Society
about
having
a
trolley
car
here
in
the
city
of
oldsmar.
So
what
we
decided
to
do
this
year
is
we're
going
to
have
the
Jolly
the
Jolly
trolley
tour.
We're
gonna
have
one
trolley
from
Clearwater
come
over
here,
and
the
date
is
Saturday
December
9th
there's
going
to
be
two
tours
one
o'clock,
250
250
250
p.m.
H
H
You
can
just
go
and
because
there's
gonna
be
a
conflict
when
the
moaning
and
right,
but
that's
why
we
did
that
and
tickets
are
available
through
Jerry
and
tozi.
Her
phone
number
is
eight
one.
Three,
eight
five,
five
one,
one,
nine
one
they're
only
$20
per
person,
all
the
proceeds
will
go
to
the
Historical
Society
and
the
Historical
Society
is
not
trying
to
make
money
on
this.
We're
just
trying
to
break
even
and
try
something
different
than
a
walking
tour
this
year
and
that's
very.
O
Thank
you
Eric.
The
petition
of
cards
that
you
helped
me
get
into
all
the
residents
that
helped
me
sign,
I
will
say:
I
still
think,
there's
a
better
way
in
the
future.
Hopefully,
with
the
way
technology
is
changing
and
I
personally
hate
bothering
people
at
their
home
on
say,
like
a
Saturday
or
Sunday
afternoon,
I
actually
end
up
sitting
on
someone's
couch
watching
football
with
them
for
a
few
minutes,
but
a
lot
of
times
you
go
door
to
door,
people
think
you're,
soliciting
or
personally.
O
E
O
A
O
Paper
which
has
a
negative
effect
on
trees
and
I,
think
it's
important
issue
I
think
we
delivered
some
really
great
proclamations
in
the
city,
one
in
particular
for
the
woman
Dottie,
who
recently
passed
away,
proclaiming
it
her
day
for
her
birthday
when
we
celebrated
here.
That
was
a
really
special
moment
for
me
on
council.
O
However,
I
personally
feel
that
proclamations
are
waste
of
time,
I
think
they're
a
waste
of
effort
and
money
in
most
cases,
I
think
they're
losing
their
specialness,
because
we
do
them
almost
every
meeting
every
day
is
proclaimed
something
and
then
I
think
it
almost
loses
its
importance
or
significance
for
when
we
actually
do
them.
So
I
would
just
mention
this
and
I
mentioned
it
to
Alice.
O
If
we
could
have
some
sort
of
consensus
on
limiting
them
to
very
special
circumstances,
potentially
where
they
might
be
required,
say
to
be
a
tree
city,
you
have
to
have
a
proclaimed
kind
of
Arbor,
Day
or
special
circumstances
like
doggies
first
a
here,
but
to
do
them
for
every
single
request
that
may
get
emailed
to
n
I
just
be
curious,
the
amount
of
time
we
spend
and
creating
them,
printing
them
reading
them
and
the
significance.
That's
actually.
A
If
I
could
to
that
point
a
lot
of
times,
they
ask
me
what
I
think
and
there
have
been
proclamations
that
we
a
we
haven't
done.
There
have
been
proclamations
that
we've
done,
that
we
don't
present
here.
We
just
print
and
print
em,
I
sign
them,
and
they
we
deliver
them
to
them.
You
know
they
add
them
to
their
portfolio,
came
in
the
other
day
and
asked
for
one
so
I
agree.
Sometimes
they
can
become
excessive,
but
I
think
they
they're
also
the
norm
in
a
lot
of
cities.
Library
we
can.
O
Not
saying
there's
not
some
that
are
important,
but
I
wonder
if
there
we
can
have
a
better
kind
of
guard
of
what
ones
we
actually
create
and
the
time
put
into
them
to
deliver
them,
because
I
do
feel
like
they
lose
their
significance.
Sometimes
I
feel
like
we're
reading
them.
You
know
I,
can
you
know
at
an
auction
so
fast
I
kept.
L
O
O
F
A
O
And
then,
lastly,
I,
just
like
just
cuz
I'll,
give
you
a
little
history
lesson
something
you
may
not
know
about
me.
But
I,
like
the
poetry
challenge,
I
actually
originally
went
to
college
on
a
riding
scholarship
and
had
submitted
some
poetry
and
things
in
order
and
to
obtain
that
scholarship
and
then
decided.
I
didn't
think.
I
could
be
a
writer
for
my
career
and
changed
finance,
but
so
I
look
forward
to
that,
and
thanks
Gator
for
kind
of
presenting
that.
O
F
F
F
F
O
F
F
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
contemplate
this,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
we
should.
You
know:
Wells
Fargo
was
leaving
town
and
I
think
we
should
I
know
it's
gonna
cost
a
lot
of
money,
but
I
think
we
should
consider
I
think
we
should
bank
with
a
knows
more
Bank
I'm
changing
mine
anyway.
That's
just
how
I
feel.
O
F
To
deal
with
the
bank
in
those
matters
and
Wells
Fargo
was
not
going
to
be
that
Bank,
the
y'all
know
how
I
feel
and
I'm
not
gonna
apologize
for
reading
this
on
you'll
just
have
to
get
upset
with
me.
You
don't
know
how
important
that
sewer
plan
is
to
me
because
I
put
a
lot
of
effort
and
blood
in
that
and
I
hate
most
a
lot
of
the
people
in
town.
Didn't
like
me,
you
could
go
ahead
and
do
whatever
you
want
mayor,
but
I'm
gonna
read
this
anyway.
F
F
They
threatened
to
fire
us.
So
I
wrote
a
letter
and
had
my
board
sign
it
on
purpose.
You
want
to
fire
me.
You
want
to
fire
the
the
the
Northeast
Pinellas
County
water
sewer
authority,
I'm
gonna
teach
you
all
a
lesson.
I
just
found
this
in
someone
like
junkit
house
I
want
to
give
it
to.
This
is
dated
September
12
1978
city
of
Omar,
City,
Hall's,
Mar,
Florida,
attention,
mayor
and
city
council,
attention,
metropolitan
bank
and
trust
and
our
bonding
agents
as
members
of
the
Northeast
Pinellas,
County,
sewer
and
water
authority.
F
We
hereby
give
notice
to
our
resonation
effective
immediately.
You
are
going
to
fire
us.
The
authority
is
bonding
the
authority,
the
bonding
agents
and
the
trustees
have
warned
City
Hall
repeatedly
repeatedly
the
upcoming
chaos.
If
the
city
fathers
did
not
take
an
affirmative
action
in
the
cycling
active
to
protect
this
city
sewer
plan,
I
kept
tell
him
to
raise
the
sewer
rates.
Blame
me,
you
know
the
City
Council
doesn't
want
to
take
blame
for
raising
the
sewer
race.
I
said
then
tell
them
to
blame
me
for
it.
F
The
council
as
a
whole,
not
into
Baisley,
have
played
a
fumbling
ballgame
money
that
should
have
been
spent
to
the
trustees
have
been
wasted
on
equipment
and
Department
personnel.
A
case
in
point:
the
Planning
Department,
not
against
y'all
back
there,
because
you
weren't
here
them
the
slope
mower
next
cetera,
et
cetera
as
Mars
operating
budget,
should
have
been
cut
to
the
bone
over
a
year
ago.
But
it
wasn't
because
of
this
inaction
on
the
part
of
the
council
and
its
seemingly
inability
to
cope
with
the
situation
in
positive
actions.
F
A
Have
one
comment:
you
know
the
tragedy
that
happened
in
Texas
and
this
is
something
that
I've
been
kind
of
kicking
around
for
a
while
and
and
it
kind
of
provoked
it.
We
had
talked
about
a
active
shooter
thing
for
City
Council
and
to
go
over
that
and
do
it
for
us
here,
but
I've
taken
in
another
step.
I
just
talked
to
Amy
Redick
today
at
Nielsen
and
they're
gonna
host
an
active
shooter
workshop
or
meeting
or
whatever
presentation
for
the
city
of
old,
not
the
city
of
Oldsmar,
but
the
businesses
in
oldsmar.
A
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
soft
targets
in
in
oldsmar,
deputy
cackled,
oh
and
skipper
are
working
with
us
on
that.
To
put
it
together,
we're
going
to
coordinate
it,
you
know,
invite
everybody,
that's
really
a
soft
target.
You
know
Oldsmar
christian
from
the
church.
Next
to
the
light
to
the
post
office
daycares,
you
know
anything
that
you
know
where
you
have
this
even
restaurants.
A
A
I
know,
deputy
cackled
o
has
brought
her
team
into
this
building
and
looked
at
what
we
could
do
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
the
best
that
we
can
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
was
you
know,
there's
two
out:
there's
two
entrances
and
there's
a
door
over
there
and
there
you
know,
suggested
to
keep
that
closed
so
that
you
know
it
eliminates
an
entrance
in
there.
You
know
I
think
it's
just
little
things
like
that.
That
really
can
make
a
big
difference
in
something
like
that.
A
So
she
was
freaking
me
out
by
telling
me
I
should
get
my
concealed
weapons
permit,
but
at
any
rate,
so
I
don't
have
any
more
details
on
it,
but
today
see
Amy
agreed
that
they
would.
They
would
love
to
do
that
and
she
I
don't
know
the
details,
but
they
were
having
an
issue
up
in
their
Chicago
office,
they're
moving
it
from
the
suburbs
down
into
the
city.
Nielson
is,
and
so
they
were
having
an
issue.
She
didn't
have
any
of
the
details.
A
I
don't
know
there
was
an
active
shooter,
but
there
was
some
kind
of
disturbance
going
on
in
Chicago.
So
it's
you
know
it's
unfortunate
that
we
have
to
do
this,
but
it's
you
know
it's
the
world
we
live
in
today.
Unfortunately-
and
so
you
know-
hopefully
it
never
has
to
come
to
fruition
that
we
have
to
enact
anything
but
we're
doing
a
couple.
Other
things
hopefully
it'll
help
us
here
as
a
council,
but
I'm
excited
about
that
that
we
can,
you
know,
offer
that
and
help
our
the
citizens
and
and
the
right.
F
A
A
A
headquarter,
yeah
I
mean
it's,
you
know
it's
unfortunate
thing,
but
you
know
the
one
thing
that
that
it
is
to
our
advantage
that
some
cities
don't
do
and
don't
even
it's
one
of
them
is
does
do
they.
Do
we
don't
do
as
our
meetings
are
not
live.
You
know,
I,
think
that
them
not
being
live
is
a
big
advantage.