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A
B
Heavenly
father
send,
in
your
blessings
on
this
meeting
of
counsel,
give
the
council
members
a
clear
sense
of
duty
and
lead
them
to
a
faithful
discharge
of
the
same
direct
them
in
the
deliberations
at
this
meetings
that
all
things
may
be
done
for
the
welfare
of
the
people
of
the
city
of
oldham.
This
we.
A
A
She
had
a
conversation
with
the
city
clerk
and
myself
as
to
why
she
was
unable
to
attend,
and
I
will
allow
council
member
doris
to
go
ahead
and
explain
that
briefly.
C
Yes,
well,
I'm
currently
undergoing
treatment,
and
I
can't
be
there
in
person.
Therefore,
that's
it.
A
Okay,
and
that's
also,
why
why
you're
on
here
on
the
phone
and
also
you
you
envision
on
thursday,
that
you
will
be
unable
to
attend
and
that
you
may
not
have
phone
accidents.
A
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
all
right,
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
for
an
opinion,
a
written
opinion
from
our
council,
not
a
opinion
verbal
one,
just
verifying
that
that's
permissible
under
the
current
environment,
because
it's
not
a
coded
release,
19
related,
absentee
or
electronic
connection.
A
B
John
views,
150
state
treaties-
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
development
community
as
we're
still
very
active
in
pursuing
land
and
building
houses,
and
those
things
are
very
strong
and
I
know
you're
talking
about
the
spending
a
lot
of
money
for
downtown
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
part
of
the
development
business
is
still
very
strong,
both
from
our
national
builders
standpoint
and
even
local
developers.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
smith
and
say
that
that
is
still
important
and
in
fact
I'm
a
couple
of
developers
are
working
to
pursue
a
letter
to
mr
raythwaite
about
the
library
parcel
being
in
play
for
some
multi-family
project
kind
of
a
version
of
the
original
one
from
two
years
ago.
Maybe
I'm
pretty
excited
about,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
That
was
still
those
are
still
active
interest
parties
and
those
kind
of
parcels.
So
thank.
A
You
thank
you,
john,
and
I
had
a
conversation
on
the
phone
the
other
day
because
you
know
during
this
pandemic
and
the
investments
that
we're
making
and
discussing
part
of
that
knowledge
pool
is
doing
research
and
he
and
I
had
a
discussion
and
he
shared
with
me
a
very
bullish
opinion
of
where
things
are
out,
as
have
others,
and
so
I
said
why
don't
you
share
that?
So
it's
another
knowledge
base
for
us
as
we
go
into
our
work.
A
All
right.
Moving
in
item
number
one
town
center
capital
improvement
projects.
I
will
at
this
point
turn
it
over
to
our
city
manor.
D
Thank
you
mayor.
As
you
know,
this
year
we
did
not
have
a
capital
budget
workshop
specifically,
but
because
of
covid
it
was
kind
of
relevant
to
our
budget
reception,
and
I
know
today
you
want
to
focus
on
the
town
center,
as
it
was
mentioned
in
the
agenda
titled,
but
we
could
have
accomplished
two
purposes.
D
That
would
be
helpful
in
the
overall
budget
approval
process.
That
being
because
we
didn't
have
a
capital
as
budget
workshop,
you
never
got
the
opportunity
to
express
your
opinion
on
the
priorities
of
the
projects
as
we
listed
them,
and
we
also
normally
talk
about
out
years,
not
this
upcoming
fiscal
year
2021
but
future
year.
So
this
would
give
us
the
opportunity
to
both
of
those.
I
stand
ready
to
proceed
any
way.
You'd
like
I
wasn't
planning
on
going
through
the
normal
process
of
explaining
what
all
of
the
gravity
numbers
mean.
D
B
Mayor,
thank
you
mayor.
I
did
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
pages
other
than
those
related
to
the
town
center
and
mostly
just
related
to
the
department
head
suggestion.
Priority
versus
the
city
manager's
suggested
priority.
If
you
don't
go.
B
B
B
Three
priority,
which
would
be
of
a
lesser
priority
according
to
our
key
and
prior
pages
and
city
manager,
you
placed
a
number
one
as
the
gateway
feature
and
a
number
two.
It's
the
neighborhood
id
features.
I
understand
that
they're
somewhat
in
out
years,
22
23
24,
but
I
just
had
you
know.
I
was
curious
as
to
your
thinking
on
those
adjustments.
B
D
With
regards
to
the
gateway
feature,
you
don't
know
just.
A
Bullet
point
for
the
citizens:
what
those
are.
D
Sure
the
first
project
mentioned
was
called
the
gateway
feature.
It's
in
planning
we
developed
a
capital
budget.
It's
spent
on
a
general
fund.
The
department
submits
a
priority
list,
supposedly
one
being
most
urgent,
two
being
x3
being
leased
their
opinion
once
they
submit
it.
To
me,
I
put
my
opinion
on
it.
We
submit
the
council
council,
can
change
or
agree
or
disagree
and
put
their
priorities
on
so
with
the
gateway
feature,
which
was
the
first
project.
D
We've
had
gateway
feature
money
in
the
budget
for
a
long
period
of
time,
conjecture
here
and
it
doesn't
matter
because
all
the
staff
works
for
me,
my
conjecture,
is
the
staff
realized
that
we've
had
money
in
there
forever.
So
it
can't
be
a
very
good
priority,
because
we've
had
money
in
there
forever.
We
haven't
got
a
grand
welcome
to
old,
smart
kind
of
sign
where
you
see
on
the
interstate
leading
at
the
same
time,
so
I
think
it's
a
more
important
thing
to
get
to,
which
is
why
I
rated
it
a
lot.
D
The
second
project
is
neighborhood
id
features,
kind
of
the
same
mentality,
there's
a
lot
more
money
to
be
spent
there.
But
obviously
you
have
to
be
careful
about
timing,
but
again
we've
had
variations
of
that
theme
in
prior
budgets.
I
think
that
one
isn't
as
pressing
as
the
gateway
feature
is,
but
I
think
it's
more
important
than
the
council
sorry
more
important
than
the
staff
did
when
they
submitted
their
priority.
D
Sorry
and
I'm
going
to
assume
that
unless
council
has
either
a
vote
or
a
specific
desire
to
change
one
of
my
priorities
that
if
it's
not
addressed
specifically
or
if
you
don't
tell
me
to
make
a
different
number
for
what
the
council
wants,
I
will
fill
the
council
column
with
my
the
number
that
I've
got
in
there.
So
if
you
wanted
to
change,
you
got
a
dollar.
A
Variations
is
there
any
discussion
on
that
on
those
items
you
know,
and
it
all
became
part
of
what
I'm
looking
for
in
this
process.
While
we're
talking
about
capital
improvement
expenditure
is
the
fact
that
you
know
our
council
priority
has
been
the
development
of
the
town
center
and
looking
at
areas
and
roi
of
how
are
there
some
possibilities
of
improving
cash
flow
on
those
years
when
we
envision
incurring
more
outbound
expenditures
to
help
develop
the
downtown
area,
it's
kind
of
a
re-prioritizing
of
funds,
and
so
what
I
would
say
is.
A
Investment,
the
gateway
feature
granted
we're
talking,
2021
sure
and-
and
you
know
it
also
could
very
well
be.
I
mean
we're
trying
to
take
a
conservative
approach
here.
You
know
with
the
potential
lasting
effects
or
not
lasting
effects
of
coded.
A
It
could
very
well
be
that
that
might
be
an
area
that
we
leave,
that
we
know,
and
we
know
we
have
this
public
discussion,
so
there's
an
opportunity
to
achieve
that
that
when
we
come
next
year
as
we
come
up
to
it
and
if
things
are
all
good,
then
if
they're
not
good,
then
that's
an
area.
We
come
back
to.
B
A
So
that's
the
value
in
my
opinion,
of
this
workshop
of
where
we're
at
right
now
today
does
everybody
agree
with
that,
so
I
would
say
we
leave
it
as
it
is
knowing
that
potentially,
that
might
be
an
area
that
we
come
back
to
in
the
future
depending
on
how
cash
flows
are
it's
an
easier
one
to
push
back?
B
D
D
Theoretical
argument
would
be
depending
on
how
we
go
about
fixing
it.
It
could
be
considered
a
re-establishment
of
something
that
already
exists.
Generally
speaking,
though,
if
you're
extending
the
life
of
the
capital
assad,
yes,
it's
capital,
it
would
be
like
refurbishing,
a
fire
truck
that
might
cost
you
175
to
do
it.
You
have
to
capitalize
that,
even
though
you
may
be
only
keeping
the
charge
on
the
wall.
B
Just
as
a
sort
of
point
of
understanding,
I
think
you've
explained
this
before,
but
I
was
asked
why
certain
things
might
be
removed
from
the
capital
enforcement
budget,
specifically
the
new
roof
for
the
women's
club
of
baltimore
clubhouse,
which
is
over
on
exeter
street,
and
I
just
promised
that
there
would
be
a
quick
explanation
as
to
why
some
things
might
be
removed
from
the
capitol
improvement.
D
I,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
don't
I'm
not
aware
of
that
one
generally,
the
explanation
is
either.
We
assume
we're
going
to
do
it
before
that
next
year,
or
at
least
encumber
it,
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
re-budget
the
dollar
amount.
That
particular
one
shouldn't.
You
know
anything
about
that.
If
you
honestly
just
don't
remember
we're
trying
to
get
done
here,
kevin
speaker,
we're
doing
it
this
year.
D
So
the
answer
is
we're
doing
it
this
year.
So
in
other
words,
if
we,
if
you
may
see
it
as
part
of
the
budget
trigger
next
year,
because
we
don't
get
it
done
by
the
end
of
this
year,
which
is
likely
because
we're
in
the
last
month
of
the
fiscal
year,
but
we
will
uncover
it,
so
we
don't
need
to
put
it
into
next
year's
budget
in
the
actual
delusional
budget.
A
A
C
And
I
had
some
of
the
same
questions
that
katie
did
about
the
differences.
So
basically
my
understanding
is
that,
because
we
do
not
know
what
our
cash
flow
is
going
to
be
due
to
covis
revenues,
you
redid
some
of
them,
but
we
could
possibly
have
to
move
or
change
things
in
the
future.
Did
I
did.
I
hear
understand
that
correctly.
A
I
don't
believe
so.
Actually,
if
you're,
referring
to
what
I
said,
what
I
had
said
was
based
on
where
we
have
things
in
the
bud
in
the
capital
improvement
budget
in
terms
of
what
year
it's
scheduled
for,
if
we
have
it
scheduled
for
2122
currently,
and
we
find
in
2021
that
we
are
facing
some
difficult
difficulties
as
a
result
of
cold.
We
still
have
time
and
the
next
capital
improvement
budget
workshop
next
year
to
move
it
out
again.
A
C
A
C
A
B
D
D
B
D
A
Yeah
and
for
the
purpose
of
the
folks
listening
to
this
or
watching
us
our
citizens
a
lot
of
times
when
there
is
kind
of
a
vision,
a
council
has
that
staff
has
for
an
asset
that
we
own
in
terms
of
improvement,
making
an
investment.
It's
not
an
uncommon
practice
that
we
put
it.
A
So
when
that
time
comes
assuming
that
each
pass
a
year,
we
still
view
that
as
something
that's
important.
We
start
planning
years
in
advance,
and
so,
in
any
event,
I
thought
I'd
mention
that
yeah.
B
It's
a
good
way
to
just
get
it
on
the
radar
right.
Yeah
good
good
example
is
harvard.
I
remember
when
I
first
got
some
council.
We
were
talking
five
six
years
out
that
whole
project
and
then
now
it's
coming.
You
know
it's
being
done.
C
D
A
C
First
of
all,
I
completely
appreciate
that
we
have
this
budgeted
every
other
year
now
and
due
to
covis,
our
40
000
was
pushed
into
2021
and
then
we've
got
another
at
2022
2023
and
consistency
manager,
felicia
donnelly
and
I
had
talked
about
previously
in
our
last
work
session,
and
she
said
that
it's
possible
that
we
might
instead
of
doing
two
forty
thousand
dollar
art
projects.
C
We
could
possibly
do
one
eighty
thousand
dollar
card
project-
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible
and
if
you
all
agree
with
that
later
on
down
the
road,
but
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
put
it
in
there,
but
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
D
Just
a
reminder
that
the
funding
for
the
original
that
we've
committed,
I
don't
think,
we've
totally
spent,
but
we've
mostly
spent
it
29
000
of
that
came
from
the
fund
that
was
raised
for
our
public
places
over
the
years
that
no
longer
exists.
Obviously
we
can
go
up
a
different
way
to
replenish
it.
We
can
either
accelerate
this
or
do
more
with
it.
But
right
now
the
original
expense
of
the
wing
structure
took
care.
A
D
B
D
B
A
B
B
Just
one
comment
that
I
agreed
with
and
appreciate
the
city
manager's
changes
to
the
third
and
fourth
line
items,
the
wireless,
secure
access
and
erp
system
replacement
and
how
we've
broken
it
up
a
little
bit
over
the
this
coming
fiscal
year
and
the
following
fiscal
year.
I
think
that
follows
our
plan
to
further
invest
in
our
council
priority
to
invest
in
connectivity.
A
D
That,
traditionally,
as
you
probably
could
guess,
given
the
services
we
have
now,
it's
probably
not
enough,
and
normally
we
have
all-
we
could
do
to
keep
up
with
stuff
that
we
already
have
breaking
with
that
amount
of
money.
So
the
video
streaming
would
be
an
operating
expense
for
a
service
that
we
might
buy
or
create,
if
it's
hardware
or
equipment.
So
I
think
where
you're
going
is,
have
we
committed
enough
money
to
making
sure
we
can
advance
our
capabilities
as
that
was
contemplated?
D
That
was
aimed
at
hardware,
because
it's
pretty
obvious,
we
have
significant
needs
in
that
particular
regard
because
of
where
we're
at
right
now.
So
the
answer
is
we
can't
plan
we
can
plan
for
obsolescence.
We
can't
necessarily
keep
on
top
of
what
is
going
to
break
so
that
money
we
would
use.
However,
we
needed
it,
but
as
far
as
the
advancement
towards
doing
other
things,
that
would
be
part
of
what
you
guys
had
in
the
operating
budget,
and
I
can't
tell
you
I
remember
exactly
what
we've
dedicated
to
it,
but
we
know
it's
council
priority.
A
Okay,
yeah,
because
I
think
we
all
agree
that
I
remember
when
we
made
the
investment
in
this
equipment.
I
know
I
sound
like
mayor
beverly
right
now,
but
I
I
do
remember
the
debate
on
it.
We
were
still
in
the
little
shack
across.
A
I
don't
know,
but
I
remember
when
we
were
all
excited
about
the
high-tech
stuff
we
got
and,
of
course
it
was
high-tech,
but
I
will
tell
you:
we've
always
had
problems
with
the
system
almost
try
after
we
got
it
in
and
so
forth
and,
of
course,
technology's
changed
so
much
since
you
know
that
was
a
couple
years
ago,
I'm
sure,
but
it
warrants
an
investment
where
we
should
be
able
to
stream
live
and
everything
else
I
mean.
I
think
you
know
that
priority
is
a
good
return
on
the
best
move.
So
I
mentioned
it.
D
At
the
time
we
were
converting,
hoping
to
advance
our
video
production
capabilities
here
when
the
refurbishment
was
created
or
finished
from
what
was
essentially
a
vhs
tape
operation
over
there.
We
spent
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
hired
a
consulting
engineer
for
that
project
and
several
points.
During
the
way
we
thought
we
saw
opportunities
to
save
a
little
money
to
use
a
piece
of
equipment
that
still
was
working
there.
D
That
turned
out
to
be
a
really
bad
idea
which
started
the
problems
we've
had
now,
I'm
very
proud
of
what
staff
has
done
in
making
lemonade
lemons
or
whatever,
but
we've
had
prob
point.
We've
had
problems
with
that
since
day,
one
because
the
entire
installation
was
not
purchased
as
one
and
as
recommended,
and
it
was
so.
We
could
save
20
grand
the
other
issue,
that's
as
big
an
issue,
and
I
apologize
if
there's
anybody
in
the
crowd
that
is
in
that
industry.
D
Now,
I'm
sure
there
are
somebody
else
that
can
do
it
at
twice
the
cost,
so
I'm
speaking
practically,
but
this
particular
company
who
we've
been
dealing
with
forever
we're
small
potatoes
to
them.
Turnaround
time
on
things
like
what
we
have
now
has
been
a
problem,
but
we
have
to
kind
of
keep
plugging
with
that.
So
this
has
had
its
challenges
since
day,
one
and
yeah,
the
first
part
of
it
was
clearly
our
fault
for
the
sake
of
saving
20
grand.
B
A
D
D
In
its
final
form,
changes
are
allowed,
so
I
would
what
I
would
suggest
is:
let
us
review
the
operating
expenses
that
we
have,
because
obviously
we
should
have
something
in
there
towards
that
end,
because
I
know
it's
been
discussed,
but
if
we
now
review
it
and
think
because
of
particularly
current
situations
suggesting
the
problem
may
even
be
worse
with
regard
to
just
keeping
it
running
the
advancing
to
video
streaming
of
a
more
consistently
reliable
source,
we
can
make
a
change.
We
can
add
money
to
the
budget.
B
A
D
I
will
have
to
do
documents
for
thursday
I'll
have
it
prepared
for
your
conversational
agreement
or
whatever
it'll
be
in
the
final
duct,
because
the
agenda
is
already
done
for
the
tentative
reading,
but
it'll
be
in
the
final
document
and
I'll
bring
it
up
so
that
you
can
see
what
we've
committed
to
it.
That
you
can
tell
us
to
increase,
decrease
or
leave
it
where
it
is.
A
A
A
B
B
Just
one
quick
question
on
the
first
project
listed
under
athlete
game
projects,
country
club,
ac,
water
main
replacement.
I
just
wanted
to
verify
that
the
900
000
expenditure
for
which
the
city
manager
have
upgraded
the
priority
of
it,
is
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
2122
the
planning,
the
sign,
design,
okay
and
then
the
800
is
the
actual
doing
it
in
22-23.
Okay,
understood.
Thank
you
all
right
question
sure.
A
B
Barbara
thank
you
out
for
the
touch
reed
water
meter
system
in
years.
Two
through
five.
Does
that
get
us
completely
done
with
that
five
years
out
from
now,
or
is
that
we
still
have
more.
D
To
go,
I
I
would
say
it
would
if
it
all
happened
exactly
like
that.
Okay,
I
put
this
in
the
category
which
of
course
is
frustrating
on
many
fronts
that
we
can
all
think
of
right
now,
it's
like
painting
the
golden
gate
bridge
by
the
time,
you're
done
with
it
it's
time
to
do
it
again,
and
we've
been
doing
this
slowly
for
years.
So
we
try
to
put
some
money
in
the
budget
to
get
a
certain
amount
of
it
done
every
year,
and
sometimes
it
happens.
Sometimes
it
doesn't.
D
Sometimes
the
price
doesn't
allow
us
to
do
as
much
as
we
can,
but
by
design,
and
that's
why
I
harp
on
making
a
big
stink
out
of
the
guys
working
in
holes
in
an
emergency
basis.
You
know
a
lot
of
their
existence
is
putting
out
fires.
This
is
almost
a
planned
project
that
you
know
has
to
happen
in
a
sequence,
so
it's
not
really
easy
to
just
wave
a
magic
wand,
part
of
the
fun
and
get
it
all
done,
so
yeah
it'll
be
done
someday.
C
B
Example,
yes,
city
manager
is
correct.
Nan
public
works
director
we're
asking
for
some
kind
of
a
roof,
with
some
racking
to
store
pipe
and
valves
and
materials
so
that
they
don't
sit
out
in
the
sun
and
when
we
do
have
a
water
main
break,
we
pull
those
off
of
the
rack
and
they're
good
to
go,
and
we
don't
have
any
problems
with
storing
that
equipment
over
time.
Where
is
that
equipment.
B
A
B
A
Other
questions
all
right,
page
23.,.
A
B
D
B
A
More
year
catch
it
all
right
anything
else.
On
page
25
takes
26.
A
Good
old
harbor
bombs,
man,
oh
man,
it
does
all
right.
So
there's
no
other
items
of
discussion
on
page
26,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
page
19
and
let's
talk
about
the
community
development
budget
and
I'm
going
to
ask
our
city
manager
to
go
through
that.
Let's
spend
some
more
time
on
that.
Okay,
that's
right!.
D
All
right,
so
the
first
item
is
a
big
hitter.
The
parking
garage
has
been
discussed
in
great
detail
or
in
great
length
the
thought
process,
as
we
originally
had
budgeted.
It
was
in
the
year
of
coming,
but
as
we've
learned-
and
this
was
mutually
exclusive
from
anything
that
covered
may
or
not,
do
it
takes
a
while
to
go
through
the
process
of
getting
the
infrastructure
in
place.
There
was
an
item
on
the
agenda
but
thursday
for
the
master
plan,
obviously
we're
in
negotiations
over
the
hotel,
so
in
the
parent
it
was
an
easy
one.
D
In
the
semester,
two
things
I
didn't
want
to
present
a
budget
that
was
in
a
vacuum,
12
million
dollars
higher
than
this
year
was
in
this
environment.
So
I
probably
would
recommend
that
we
push
it
anyway,
but
practically
speaking,
if
everything
moves
as
we
hope
it
to
it
is
likely,
we
would
get
to
be
building
the
garage
much
sooner
than
that
year
anyway,
and
if
we
did,
we
would
do
a
budget
provision
to
bring
the
money
forward.
So
the
only
issue
now
is
the
commitment
to
how
it
works
in
place
of
developing
the
parcels.
D
D
I
was
getting
confused
on
my
yeah,
so
we
would
probably
look
to
be
have
some
kind
of
public
financing.
I
did
get
some
good
news
yesterday,
speaking
about
council,
that
you
know
we're
still
pretty
much
in
the
air
as
to
what
exactly
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
only
a
garage
with
a
residential
wraparound,
with
retail,
with
whatever
there's
a
there's,
an
irs
issue
about
the
tax
exemption
status
of
the
bond.
D
D
We
have
a
chance
of
the
likelihood
is
that
the
garage
is
going
to
end
up
with
a
mix
of
a
taxable
component
and
a
tax
exempt
component.
You
can
see
why
we
would
be
doing
leasing
or
allowing
access
for
money
to
the
hotel
homes.
That's
part
of,
what's
already
been
presented
to
you
guys
for
the
developers
and
that's
private
use.
D
Obviously,
the
city
would
own
the
garage
that
the
city
would
have
what
we
hope
would
be
considered
general
public
uses
so
because
of
that
mix,
it's
likely
that
the
bond
is
going
to
have
a
mix
of
both.
The
good
news
was
that,
depending
on
the
downstroke
we
can
put
on
the
bond
the
ir
the
validation
process
evaluates
how
much
of
the
project
on
a
percentage
basis
is
considered.
Public
is
considered
private,
there's
a
reasonable
chance.
D
D
D
So
all
I'd
be
looking
for
at
this
point
depending
what,
if
I
don't
think
anybody
wants
to
re-prioritize
that
if
that's
what
I'd
be
looking
for
or
if
you
chose
to
to
move
the
money
forward
or
further
away
or
change
the
dollar,
I
mean
that's
our
basis.
There
was,
I
think,
at
the
time
we
were
talking
about
it:
a
500
500
stall
at
20
thousand,
a
five
hundred
cell
twenty
thousand
of
space
plus
the
design
worker.
B
D
B
A
D
I
fully
expect
that
to
be
the.
I
accept
that
case.
So
in
a
in
an
attempt
to
explain
myself
to
me,
I
have
a
problem
with
this
in
the
operating
budget
with
my
people.
Sometimes
we've
had
this
for
years.
D
In
the
erp
system
we
require,
as
you
know,
all
department
heads
to
itemize.
Every
planned
purchase
in
every
operating
expense
account
with
what's
in
the
system
as
priority
keepers.
It
rarely
works
that
way.
It
functions
generally
as
a
list.
If
they
need
seven
things,
they
just
go
one
two,
three
four
five
six
seven
and
then
I
spin
it
back,
and
then
we
go
all
right.
D
In
my
opinion,
the
fountain's
timing
and
ultimate
need
to
the
success
of
a
project.
Are
less
not
that
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
or
just
less
to
me
than
the
garage
in
the
hotel.
So
we
can
revisit
that
and
I'm
assuming
the
council
is
going
to
want
to
change
it.
But
I
was
just
expressing
my
opinion
with
more
of
a
literal
interpretation
of
what
priorities
are
to
me
right
and
what
I
would.
A
D
C
Do
you
have
a
quick
question
about
the
fountain.
C
A
D
B
A
But
we're
not
ranking
it
in
that
fashion.
I
don't
believe
I
mean,
because
frankly
I
would
rank
the
hotel
one.
I
would
rank
the
garage
one
because
you
can't
have
really
a
downtown
without
like
those
two
without
those
right,
and
so
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
you
look
at
them
and
say
that
you
might
be
talking
about
possibly
an
order
in
which
it
it's
done,
but
there's
some
advantages
of
doing
infrastructure
all
at
once.
A
So
I
you
know
it
becomes
more
a
question
of
tactical
but
okay,
so
you
you
think
you
should
be
prioritized
as
a
three.
I
don't
understand.
We've
never
gone
back
and
re-prioritized
the
department,
heads
opinion
and
the
city
manager's
opinion.
We've
left
it
in
the
budget.
It's
either
a
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down.
I
don't
understand
why
you're
requesting
that.
D
Well,
we,
what
happens
in
the
capital
budget
workshop
is
we
have
these
discussions
and
if
the
council
doesn't
direct
us
to
change
the
priority,
then
the
priority
stays
what
the
manager
put
it.
I
knew
this
was
probably
not
going
to
be
an
agreement
with
what
you
wanted.
So
all
I'm
asking
is
for
the
council.
It
doesn't
change
anything
other
than
if
it
doesn't
some
consensus
of
the
councils.
It
should
not
be
a
three
then
tell
me
what
it
should
be
and
that's
what
we'll
put
in
the
council
column,
we.
B
D
And
we've
done
it
every
year.
We
just
didn't
have
any
specific
conversations,
because
the
prior
manager
would
not
have
presumed
that
he
wanted
a
particular
discussion
because
he
figured
his
priority,
wasn't
going
to
be
agreed
to
by
the
council.
So
it's
a
first
in
the
sense
that
I
knew
you
wouldn't
agree
with
this.
That's
all.
A
B
I
just
logistically
speaking
to
me
it.
It
seems
to
make
more
sense
that
okay,
the
department
put
it
as
one
the
manager
put
it
as
three:
the
manager
could
put
whatever
they
want
in
their
column,
and
then
the
document
is
published
with
what
the
council
puts
in
the
capital
column.
It's
not
a
matter
of
changing
what
the
manager
put
in
his
column,
yeah.
A
B
The
columns
stay,
as
is
as
far
as
the
actual
item,
I
understand
the
importance
of
prioritizing
infrastructure,
but
I
do
tend
to
agree
with
councilmember
saraki's
expressed
opinion
as
as
far
as
the
prioritization
goes.
I
don't
know
that
it's
a
a
one.
I
don't
know
that
it's
necessarily
a
two
as
far
as
the
black
box
theater,
you
know,
that's
a
two,
so
it's
hard
to
equate
projects
and
pieces
of
this
this
this
entire
project.
B
A
B
I've
got
something
if
the
parking
garage
goes
as
planned
in
that
fiscal
year.
Just
talking
about
the
logistics
of
the
infrastructure,
you
see
there
being
a
big
detriment
to
the
garage
of
the
hotel
happening
first
and
then,
even
if
the
groundwork
is
laid,
but
the
actual
fountain
feature
isn't
completed.
A
D
D
So,
to
your
point,
part
of
the
reason
that
I
rated
it
as
a
three
was
because
I
didn't
necessarily
think
it
was
not
not
that
I
timed
where
I
put
the
money
because
of
that,
just
that
in
my
pecking
order,
the
the
things
I've
seen
the
garage
is
the
most
important
thing
for
the
success
of
the
project.
In
my
my
opinion,
and
I'm
only
speaking
for
me,
the
hotel
is
certainly
that
important.
D
D
If
the
urgency
of
the
project
is
in
the
council's
opinion,
that
it
would
make
more
sense-
or
you
want
it
to
be
considered
sooner
than
you
would
direct
me
to
move
that
money
up
to
2021,
which
is
where
I
thought
the
mayor
was
referring
to
about
where
it
had
been
originally.
So
I
was
pushing.
I
pushed
it
out
more
so
because
I
think
in
the
construction
sense
it
might
be
difficult,
but
it
might
not
be
impossible
because,
if
we're
after
the
infrastructure
for
the
entire
property
first,
that
would
be
part
of
it.
A
Okay,
just
so
you
know
that
and
part
of
that
listen.
I
will
tell
this
council
this
just
like
with
anything
else
on
this
capital
improvement
club,
depending
on
where
we're
at
from
a
development
standpoint
depending
on
where
the
city
is
at.
You
know,
with
the
external
factors
financially
that
that
we're
all
facing,
we
may
move
that
back
up.
A
A
A
You
know
so
I'm
okay
with
us
moving
it
out
a
year,
because
quite
candidly,
if
I
believe,
if
we
had
nothing
here
but
a
beautiful
park
area,
an
amazing
dancing
fountain
that
people
could
come
out
with
their
kids
and
we
had
food
trucks
out
here.
We'd
have
a
parking
problem.
A
You
know
the
fiscal
part
of
that's
not
possible
to
do
because
then
all
of
the
land
is
sitting
on
land
and
not
producing
any
tax
dollars
during
the
income
from
the
sales
of
the
land,
and
so
that's
not
possible
to
do
my
point
is,
I
don't
believe,
we'd
be
in
a
position
to
have
that
fountain
without
having
a
garage,
because
people
would
be
parking
down
the
street
in
people's
front
yards,
that's
problematic,
and
so
I
so
I
don't
disagree
with
where
you
put
it.
A
D
D
B
B
A
Timeline,
okay
and
what
I'm
saying
is
we're
not
going
to
spend
the
time
changing
the
priorities
of
the
city
manager.
Sure
I
try
to
do
that.
Every
day.
When
I
meet
him,
it
was
an
absolute.
You
know,
fun
time
we
shut
the
door,
we
leave
shaking
hands,
but
I
don't
think
that's
relevant.
You
know
to
his
point.
It
was
whether
or
not
it
belonged
there.
Whether
I
was
hoping
it
would
be
up
further,
which,
under
normal
circumstances,
I
would
hope
that
we
were
going
along.
D
A
B
D
Okay,
third
item
was
kind
of
a
late
cover
to
the
conceptual
party
I
had
suggested.
The
possibility
felicia
and
I
had
visited
some
local
literally
called
black
box
theaters
ruth
effort
has
one
there's
one
in
downtown
saint
pete,
we
loved
it.
We
thought
the
timing.
Consensus
timing,
sense
that,
with
what
opal
has
done
with
the
kids
and
stuff
that
that
might
be
a
really
great
thing
to
catch
fire,
if
we
could
give
a
facility
that
was
better
to
do
a
production
than
the
gym
and
nothing
against
center,
it's
wonderful.
D
D
We
are
looking
at
the
possibility
rolling
into
the
financing
all
depending
on
what
the
council
wants
to
do
with
it.
It
got
bumped
as
well
from
its
original
conceptual
place,
so
it's
an
out
year,
but
our
thought
was.
It
would
be
a
really
really
awesome
thing
to
have
that.
I
think
dunedin
has
a
fine
arts
place
of
sorts,
but
they're
you
could
use
them
for
a
thousand
things.
They
just
you
use
them
for
collaborative
workspace.
D
You
use
it
for
meetings,
they're,
they're,
flexible,
the
universal
and
and
the
things
you
can
do
and
they
were
just
cool.
So
I
just
thought
it
was
a
good
idea,
but
obviously
we're
a
few
years
away
from
knowing
if
we
can
make
that
a
reality.
So
for
now
the
two
was
just
kind
of
that's.
We
love
the
idea,
but
we
don't
know
if
it's
doable
with
all
the
other
things
going
on
any.
B
C
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
too.
I
think
it's
something
that
you
plan
for
that
hopefully
gets
incorporated
because
it
is
you
know
when
you,
when
you're
looking
at
the
community,
hence
the
whole
discussion
on
the
town
center.
You
know,
where
are
the
voids,
that
we
have
that's
an
area?
That's
a
void,
and
you
know
who
knows
I
mean
maybe
there's
opportunities
for
public
private
partnerships
when
we
get
down
that
road
and
so
forth,
but.
C
D
D
So
that's
pretty
much.
You
probably
not
enjoy
every
single
year
we
pay
current
revenue.
We
try
and
make
upgrades
to
signs
that
you
might
see
for
roads,
or
so
we
split
that
up
over
the
course
of
time.
Any
questions
on
that
nope
intersection.
D
B
D
And
we've
talked
about
doing
that
sooner
as
opposed
to
later,
but
then
you
run
the
risk
of
with
the
other
development
and
stuff
you
don't
want
to
fix
it,
then
how
to
fix
it
again.
I
know
it's
been
bad
for
quite
a
while,
but
that
so
that's
where
we're
aiming
there
john's
going
up
on
the
screen
thanks
judy.
D
All
right
next
thing
was
way
finding
signage.
Again,
we've
talked
about
doing
that
over
the
course
of
years.
That's
more
kind
of
like
science
can
help
visitors,
and
anybody
in
the
area
to
know
where
stuff
is
we've
done
little
ones
at
one
time.
I
think
we
had
one
of
the
pier
you
know
steering
people
to
the
bait
shop,
or
you
know
it's
just
trying
to
help
people
navigate
around
the
city.
Obviously
we
have
a
pretty
big
plant
that
the
the
downside
to
this,
in
my
mind,
is
they're.
D
Like
everything
else
ridiculously
expensive,
you
don't
get
a
lot
of
bang
for
the
buck.
We
also
talked
about
the
possibility
of
tying
some
of
that
into
the
public
art
that
might
be
a
little
too
dicey
to
say
specifically
but
work
our
way
into
making
them
aesthetically,
pleasing
and
functional
in
a
sense
that
would
help
somebody
navigate
our
city,
but
those
are
out
here.
So
any
questions
on
that.
D
D
There
is
some
theory:
well
I'll,
leave
it
at
this
because
we
haven't
negotiated
the
deal
yet,
but
that
money
at
one
time
it
was
really
placed
in
the
budget.
I
was
mistaken
for
the
fountain.
I
was
thinking
as
well.
I
agree
with
the
mayor
we
at
the
time
we
were
talking
about.
I
think
we
got
500
in
mind
and
since
this
was
common
area
improvements,
some
would
argue
that
that
would
be
part
of
the
common
area
improvement.
D
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
so
the
common
area
improvements
was
simply.
We
probably
won't
you
guys,
hopefully,
will
make
the
award
on
thursday.
We
will
probably
not
have
a
deal
because
all
you're
doing
is
authorizing
me
to
negotiate
the
deal.
So
we
won't
have
a
deal
a
contract
with
the
consultant.
Who
will
do
the
master
plan
for
next
door
until
next
fiscal,
so
that
money
is
aimed
at
that?
D
Okay,
the
actual
infrastructure
cost
of
what
it
would
cost
to
prepare
what's
underground
for
whatever
is
going
to
go
over?
It
is
clearly
a
guess,
because
we've
heard
five
million
we've.
We've
worked
five
million
at
least
partially
into
our
finance
accounts,
but
three
million
might
even
be
optimistic.
Who
knows
in
principle
what
we're
presenting
simply
is
that
we
have
a
lump
sum
in
the
budget
next
year
for
the
consultant
that
you're
going
to
help
select
the
valuation
committee
did
its
job.
We
authorize
the
contract
next
year.
D
D
So
we
are
unconventional
in
a
sense
that
we've
got
a
hotel
in
process
and
we're
talking
about
garage,
but
this
will
at
least
kind
of
catch
us
up
to
the
point
where
we'll
know
all
of
what
council
wants
to
see
and
then
we'll
have
everything
done
underground,
so
the
rest
of
it
hopefully
will
go
quicker.
The
point
simply
was
to
get
it
on
the
record
with
our
best
guess.
In
fact,
I
would
say
that
even
the
first
part,
I
hope,
is
not
too
optimistic
and.
A
We,
the
20
21
22,
the
3
million,
depending
what
that
number
ends
up
being,
of
course,
right
right
that
would
get
rolled
into
the
bottom
finances.
Wouldn't
it
just
curious
that
gets
rolled
into
the
modifier.
D
I'm
not
going
to
say
it's
not
ultimately
possible.
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea.
Okay,
naturally,
if
we
had
to,
we
would
do
whatever
we
had
to,
but
you're
generally
talking
about
assets
now
underground
stuff
are
assets
a
little
bit
more
tangible
that
have
a
useful
life.
Okay,
they
have
a
useful
life.
I
wouldn't
recommend
that,
but
we'll
also
go
again.
D
On
all
right,
st
petersburg
drive
area,
we
have
a
street
lighting
project
in
for
next
year,
which
is,
I
think,
it's
saint
pete
and
state
street.
It's
a
beautiful
drive
from
state
street
to
tampa
road,
correct
that
we
are
contemplating
buying
those
street
lights
from
tico,
and
is
there
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that?
That's
essentially
what
it
is
right,
and
I
can
tell
you,
let's
see
if
I
did
it
this
way:
hey
we
need
the
lighting.
D
D
We
do
own
some
of
the
lights
and
I
think
it's
mostly
state
street
from
saint
pete
to
here,
and
we
may
own
something
somewhere,
but
there's
a
real,
tough
thing
to
nail
between
whether
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
it's
a
net
present
value
argument,
kind
of
if
you
own
the
structure,
all
you're
paying
for
is
electricity.
If
you
don't
know
the
structure,
they
got
you
because
they
tell
you
what
the
lease
of
it
is,
but
in
terms
of
capital
outlay.
D
I
don't
know
that
I'm
thrilled
with
the
thought
of
spending
90
or
100
000
to
own
a
few
more
street
lights,
so
when
it
comes
to
that
it
would
have
to
come
back
to
council
anyway,
but
the
money's
there.
That's
the
plan,
that's
the
way
we
had
structured
it.
I
think
we
actually
have
been
talking
about
this
a
few
years
ago.
We
just
said
together,
I
was
doing
it
yet
we
absolutely
need
the
lighting.
There's
no
question
about
that.
How
we
get
there
remains
to
be
seen
so
for
this
purpose.
That's
why
it's
there.
A
D
B
D
All
right,
so
I
have
the
whole
thing
on
complete
streets.
We
have
committed
encumbered,
350
000,
for
design
work
for
the
entire
project,
although
the
construction
part
will
be
phased
and
what
you're
seeing
here
is
that
the
grant
we
got
from
cdbg
through
the
pinellas
county
was
construction
only
eligible
and
just
for
the
kind
of
principle
of
the
thing.
The
construction
piece
of
the
streetscaping
piece
would
be
the
last
part
and
that's
where
we
get
the
money.
D
So
I
had
been
discussing
this
with
the
mayor
as
to
whether
or
not
that
was
flexible
in
terms
of
could
we
move
that
out
if
we
had
to
knowing
that
it's
already
pushed,
because
we
really
think
under
normal
circumstances,
we
won't
be
able
to
get
that
far
for
another
couple
of
years.
We
had
originally
scheduled
that
for
23.24
to
be
finished
the
following
year,
so
the
real
answer,
the
question
about
whether
we
could
maneuver
it
either
way.
Is
we
don't
know
and
here's
why
this
is
infuriating,
but
trust
me,
you
know
how
annoying
I
am.
D
My
staff
makes
me,
look
gentle.
We
still
don't
have
a
grant
agreement
and
the
county
is
in
this
particular
regard
very
unorganized
and
all
we
get
is:
don't
worry,
you'll
have
it
in
plenty
of
time.
They
don't
contemplate
the
construction
for
several
years
out,
which
either
represents
why
they're
not
in
a
hurry
or
why
they
continually
kick
the
can
down
the
road.
Until
we
have
a
grant
agreement,
we
don't
have
much
to
go
on
on
any
framework
or
anything
like
deadlines
or
whatever.
D
So
I
would
say
to
that
point
I
mean
it's
already
out
there
pretty.
Well.
If
you
wanted
to
move
it
again,
you
certainly
could,
but
we
are
committed
financially
to
horn
for
doing
the
design
work
on
the
entire
thing
and
the
po's
out
there
we've
spent
about
100,
I
think
it's
160
or
90
out
of
340
000,
so
that's
in
play
now
we
can
shelve
it.
In
other
words,
if
you
push
the
construction
we
can
shelve
the
plan.
D
A
D
Grant,
but
in
terms
of
relevance
or
ability
for
it
still
be
timely
if
we
don't
do
anything
for
a
while
we're
okay
there,
but
we've
committed
funds
to
the
project.
We
just
haven't
committed
any
construction
funds
and
if
we
finish
the
project
because
the
streetscape
would
be
the
last
part,
that's
where
we
get
reimbursed
with
the
million
assuming
we
ever
get
a
agreement
which,
by
the
way,
would
come
back
to
you
anyway,
so,
but
for
every
agreement
for
the
from
pinellas
county.
Before
that
you'll
see
it.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
comments
on
this,
because
I
have
some
comments
on
it?
I'm
just
so.
Is
it
your
opinion
al
that
at
this
point
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
push
it
anywhere,
because
we
don't
really
have
the
hard
information
in
front
of
us.
A
A
The
use
of
building
infrastructure
to
sit
specifically
in
the
town
center
versus
throughout
the
cra
as
a
priority
over
here
versus
beautifying,
the
streets
down
st
peak
drop,
and
so,
if
it's
the
pleasure,
the
council
not
taking
action
on
it
I'll
highlight
that
as
possible.
Future
discussion
points
should
be
needed.
Does
everybody
agree
with
that?
Yep
because
you
know
the
problem
is
grants.
A
The
grants
are
great.
I
mean
you
know
it
really.
If
you're
100
committed
to
doing
a
project-
and
we
have
this
discussion
kind
of
offline
sometimes,
but
it's
worth
sharing
the
public,
and
that
is
it's
a
million-dollar
grant,
which
was.
It
was
amazing,
excited
about
it,
the
hard
work
that
staff
put
into
it
and
the
prep
work
we
did
with
some
of
the
research
and
you
know,
prior
to
filing
the
money
we
spent
to
prepare
to
apply.
The
lack
of
better
word
helped
us
get
that
credit,
but
you
win
a
million
dollar
grant.
A
It's
a
three
million
dollar
project
right,
so
the
city
still
has
to
spend
two
million
dollars,
so
those
types
of
things
happen
quite
frequently,
and
so
it's
just
important
to
have
that
gut
check
on
certain
things
where,
if
it's
not
time
sensitive-
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
lose
that
money-
that
million
dollar
portion
of
it
that's
grand,
then
we
have
the
flexibility.
A
The
problem
is
when
you
get
a
grant,
that's
very
attractive,
but
the
city
is
not
financially
prepared
from
either
a
pure
cash
flow
or
from
a
priority
standpoint
to
say:
okay.
Well,
we
have
to
do
this
by
this
time
or
we
lose
the
strength.
Douglas
falls.
A
Douglas
is
a
real
priority.
We've
been
very
blessed
to
get
some
grant
money,
there
get
some
appropriations
from
the
state,
but
it's
very
it's
much
more
time
sensitive,
and
so
in
any
of
that.
I
just
mentioned
that,
because
sometimes
with
your
brand,
it's
great,
but
it's
three
million
dollar
project
with
a
one
million
dollar
grant.
You
know
we
pay
you
in
any
all
right.
Moving
on.
D
Okay,
other
projects,
the
tampa
road,
overpass
we've
had
in
various
stages
of
progress.
I
guess
we'd
call
it
at
one
time
it
was
on
the
fdo
teamwork
plan.
I
don't
believe
it
is
anymore
or
if
it
is
israel,
is
it
in
the
workplace
right
now,
you
know.
D
If
it
is
it's
way
out
there,
so
remember
that
council
approved
the
purchase
of
that
property
with
the
pond
right
next
to
the
st
p,
drive
intersection,
so
we're
prepared
if
it
does
get
re-energized
somehow
I
would
put
it
in
the
same
category
as
what
the
managers
discussed.
D
You
know.
Construction
costs
may
not
be
what
they
were
last
year
because
of
coverage.
We
don't
know,
but
that's
another
one.
Where
likely,
if
d.o.t
is
willing
to
make
the
spend,
that's
going
to
be
another
case
where
the
grant
will
be
significantly
less
than
the
cost
of
the
project,
so
it's
in
and
out
here
we
don't
want
to
lose
track
of
it.
We
want
to
keep
you
know,
seeing
if
it's
out
there,
but
you
know
from
a
practicality
standpoint.
D
I
don't
know
that
it's
one
of
my
top
priorities
so
up
to
council.
If
you
want
to
move
the
money
or
leave
the
money,
it's
there
we're
still
chasing
it,
but
d.o.t
would
have
to
re-energize
it
with
a
whole
lot
more
money
in
order
to
get
it
closer
to
being
something
we
should
go
after
actually
doing.
A
Yeah,
you
know
I'm
much
more
in
favor
of
there
being
some
kind
of
landmark
entrance
way.
I
think
that
has
similar
value,
and
certainly,
if
you
ask
our
citizens
about
it,
we
live
on
the
other
side
of
tampa
road
they're
interested
in
having
something
like
that
would
be
for
what
golfer
boom
right
drop.
My
goal
right,
which
is
a
totally
different
animal
than
what
is
on
the
board
right
now,
it's
a
different
cost.
It's
a
different
process,
because
I
thought
the
same
thing
I'm
like
well,
let's
just
make
it
real
wide.
D
Anyhow,
moving
on
okay
payment
markings
is
kind
of
a
program
that
we
have
so
we
put
money
in
alternative
years
to
try
and
keep
up
with
that
around
the
city.
I
think
that
that's
not
new,
but
we
do
what
we
can
with
as
we
discover
them
or
program
them,
and
then
the
last
one
is
the
parkville
more
than
the
apartment.
This.
This
is
way
out
there.
This
is
really,
I
don't
know
how.
A
D
And
what
was
the
name
of
the
program,
the
institution
of
land
institute?
People
may
know.
D
So
this
came
out
of
that,
and
you
know
I
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things.
If
we
could
pull
this
off,
I
mean
this
is
a
toughie,
but
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
lose
track
of
it.
It's
as
far
out
as
it
can
be,
but
if
you
could
pull
that
off,
you
know
you
think
of
that
street,
where
city
hall
down
in
the
water
with
a
median
right
down
the
shoot.
I
mean
that
would
be
absolutely
incredible.
Is
that
number
anywhere
close
to
reality?
D
I
doubt
it,
but
we
want
it's
in
there
because
we
don't
want
to
distracted
it.
If
that
could
happen.
That
would
be
absolutely
amazing,
but
will
it
happen?
I
don't
know
so.
The
purpose
of
that
estimate,
if
you
will
was
design
money
in
the
frontier,
then
construction,
but
from
what
I
saw
in
the
vision,
my
guess
would
be.
If
you
guys
went
after
that
would
probably
be
a
lot
more
might
be
worth.
A
It
well
and
to
me
this
is
a
great
example
of
what
we
talk
about.
Why
we
keep
something
on
the
radar
further
out.
You
have
priorities
that
come
before
it,
which,
I
would
say
is
having
a
you
know:
we've
got
the
beautiful
water
out
there
beautiful
parks
out
there.
A
D
A
I
will
say
what
I
do
believe:
the
value
that
came
out
of
that
work
and
that
process
that
we
went
through
with
the
students,
the
architectural
students
and
the
design
students.
I
mean
it
was
a
really
collaborative
effort.
Was
that
there's
components
to
it
that
you,
I
think
you
will
see
or
that
some
of
us
probably
were
designing.
A
You
know
our
own.
You
know
amateur
town
center
that
got
pulled
together.
I
think
there
were
components
of
it.
There
were
components
of
it
that
you
know
were
not
realistic.
A
You
know
the
building
of
new
docks,
like
kind
of
a
deck
over
the
water
at
ariel's
that
had
some
restaurants
and
stuff
out
on
it.
I
don't
think
would
have
been
real
popular,
but
it
was
created.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
value
in
it,
but
to
al's
point
it's
certainly
something
that
should
be
left
because
of
the
components
of
it.
Yes,
council,
member
strat.
B
A
A
I
I
don't
know
that
we
have
much
more
business.
You
know,
I
think
it's
probably
healthy,
that
we've
taken
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
well,
I
mean
look,
cuba
19
has
become
a
focus
for
us
and
you
know
for
everybody
and
certainly
understanding
what
the
impact
of
that
will
be
to
us.
Financially.
A
You
know,
I.
I
believe
that
the
overall
based
on
what
experts
are
saying
and
what
numbers
are
starting
to
show
that
you
know,
certainly
not
everything
is
defined
as
to
what
the
impact
will
ultimately
be,
but
there's
some
key
things
that
the
value
of
keeping
an
eye
on
you
know
from
the
most
fundamental
thing
as
a
city
is
a
what's
happening
to
the
avalor
tax
base.
A
A
You
know
the
avalor
tax
phase.
You
know
comes
the
course
of
the
mixture
of
commercial
retail
industrial
residential.
A
You
know
I
saw
this
week
where
zillow,
for
example,
is
projecting
for
oldsmar
that
residential
property
will
see
a
5.8
gain
over
the
next
12
months.
That's
good
news.
You
know
on
the
commercial
side,
florida
trent
sort
of
tampa
bay
business
journal,
who
you
know
very
local
professional.
A
A
A
That
won't
be
a
lack
of
demand,
it's
more
likely
to
be
a
change
in
design
where
buildings
are
designed
with
less
density,
more
workspace
right.
So
you
think
about
the
offset
of
that,
and
I
was
kind
of
the
point
of
some
of
the
experts,
the
offset
of
having
something
more
of
your
employees
working
from
home.
But
now
future
designs
are
likely
to
include
more
spacing,
and
you
know
the
handles
touchless
rather
elevators
and
those
types
of
things
kind
of
coming
into
design.
A
Work
it
it's
also
interesting,
and
I
I
saw
this
in
looking
at
the
residential
side
and
the
effectiveness,
and
that
is
right
now
it's
still
considered
a
salary
and
that
definition
for
those
who
may
not
be
aware
that
there
are
more
buyers
in
the
old
car
market
than
there
are
properties,
and
the
significance
of
that
is.
A
It
continues
to
make
for
a
seller's
market
where
they're
getting
better
prices
that
right
now
most
sellers
are
getting
98.3
of
their
asking
price.
That's
a
good
sign.
That
means
that
pressure
of
a
blood
of
property-
you
know
we're
not
experiencing
at
least
we're
not
down
unemployment,
because
al
will
make
this
point.
When
we
have
these
discussions,
you
know
because
we've
been
in
finance,
it
gets
it
unemployment's
key
because
we
can
have.
We
could
build
it,
but
if
people
can't
pay
it,
it's
a
problem
with
the
pandemic
started.
A
Our
rate
is,
and
it
jumped
up
as
the
shutdown
took
place
to
just
under
14
percent
here
in
the
city
of
wellspawn.
I
don't
know
if
you
all
know
these
things,
but
I
look
at
the
stuff
so.
A
Either
agree
without
or
you
know,
disagree
I
need
to
use
the
part
of
that
and
I
give
them
a
hard
plan,
but
it
gives
me
it
it's
now
from
14
as
of
the
end
of
june,
which
I
believe
are
the
last
numbers
are
the
last
numbers
that
I
can
get
and
we
have
four
moles
more
specific.
A
A
A
You
know
those
restaurants
that
open
back
up,
they
weren't
running
full
steam
where
they
were
even
going
to
make
back
to
what
they
made
to
begin
with
right.
So
this
is
like
it's
it's
crazy,
but
when
you
start
to
look
at
those
different
moving
parts,
you
know
I
think
things
overall
are
trending
in
the
right
direction
and
by
the
time
we
get
to
sinking
a
shovel.
A
You
know,
hopefully,
because
right
now,
as
the
unemployment
which
to
me
is
the
biggest
concern
as
mayor
regardless
of
this
project
or
not,
if
there's
a
five
point
differential
from
where
we
are
at
normally
right,
so
you
kind
of
keep
that
in
focus,
but
it's
trending
in
the
right
way.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
we
keep
our
eyes
on
those
numbers
and
know
that
okay,
the
signs
are
still
good.
We
should
still
continue
on
and
so
anyhow.
B
A
B
More
questions
mayor,
thank
you.
It
was
my
intention
to
ask
our
city
manager,
either
today,
at
the
workshop
or
at
thursday's
council
meeting,
for
an
update
as
to
the
negotiations
with
snow
since
we're
talking
about
the
downtown
area.
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
something
appropriate
that
you
would
like
to
discuss
today
or
if
it's
something
that
you'd
rather
save
from
the
end
of
the
meeting
on
thursday
for
council
comments
and
questions.
A
You
know
I'm
not
opposed
to
it
being
discussed
right
now.
What
I
would
say
is
it
might
make
sense
to
wait
for
the
council
meeting,
because
it's
my
hopes
that
the
people
that
were
in
negotiation
with
on
downtown
hear
that.
B
B
B
A
Well,
let's
do
the
day
after
tomorrow
yeah,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
all
reached
out
for
any
kind
of
briefing
one-on-one.
B
Yes,
I
did
yes,
I
did
both
our
city
attorney
and
our
city
manager,
yeah
yeah,.
A
All
right,
councilwoman
doors,
do
you
have
anything
else?
Her
phone
call
was
set
up
there,
okay,
very
good.
All
right
is
there
any
other.
B
A
A
Really
good
we'll
get
it
done
all
right,
joe!
Well,
listen.
I
appreciate
you
getting
together.
You
got
some
good
questions
and
I
feel
good
about
where
we're
at
in
this
difficult
time.
I
will
tell
you
that
there
are
also
people
who
are
looking
at
the
pandemic
and
saying
wow
what
an
opportunity.
B
A
Agree-
and
I
I
think,
we're
much
more
in
that
mode,
but
nevertheless
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
all
the
economic
indicators
and
keep
keep
pushing
on
and
regardless
of
any
distractions.
This
council
continues
to
do
the
city's
business
period,
and
so
I
appreciate
all
of
you
for
that
this
time.
The
chair,
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
Do
I
have
a
second
I'm
emotionally?
Second,
it's
not
required.