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They
may
be
rewritten
for
clarity
or
to
eliminate
duplicate
questions
and
are
intended
to
prohibit
personal
attacks.
Questions
will
be
asked
of
all
candidates
who
are
seated
in
alphabetical
order,
irrespective
of
the
office
they
seek.
Each
candidate
will
have
two
minutes
for
an
opening
statement,
one
minute
to
answer
each
question
and
one
minute
for
a
closing
statement.
We
expect
to
begin
the
closing
statements
about
8
20..
E
B
Good
evening
I
am
council
member
dan
saraki,
and
I
am
running
for
your
oldsmar
mayor-
I'm
proud
to
have
been
on
the
council
for
seven
years
and
successfully
operate
a
local
business
here
since
1999
that
has
helped
other
local
businesses
grow.
I'm
running
for
mayor
because
I
want
to
serve
the
citizens
and
I
don't
agree
with
the
current
path
the
mayor
is
proposing.
B
We
don't
want
growth
out
of
control.
We
want
to
protect
oldsmar's
hometown,
feel
as
I've
been
going
door
to
door
and
talking
to
the
citizens
of
oldsmar.
I've
listened
to
your
concerns.
We
all
agree.
We
want
a
walkable
downtown
with
biking
golf
carts,
community
event
space.
I
heard
your
voices
loud
and
clear,
not
one
person
I
met
said
they
want
a
density
increase
in
our
city,
not
one.
B
B
My
goals
as
mayor
are
clear:
I'll,
be
a
servant
of
the
people,
not
politics
or
special
interests.
I'll
continue
to
support
our
veterans,
our
first
responders
and
focus
on
improvements
to
infrastructure,
harbor
palms,
our
sewer
plant,
public
public
arts,
safe
transportation
options,
our
parks
and
our
bike
trails.
We
can
build
a
downtown
that
we,
the
people,
can
enjoy
and
be
proud
of.
Without
a
density
increase,
we
can
have
a
downtown.
We
can
call
home.
B
I've
been
greatly
involved
in
our
community
as
the
first
elected
official
from
oldsmar
to
sit
on
the
board
of
directors
for
the
florida
league
of
cities
and
president
of
the
suncoast
league
of
cities.
I
have
consistently
fought
to
protect
the
rights
of
our
residents
and
have
earned
the
home
real
hero
five
years
in
a
row
as
your
next
mayor
rest
assured
I'll
always
go
above
and
beyond
to
obtain
what
oldsmar
needs
not
only
to
survive
but
thrive.
A
A
A
A
We
have
real
issues
with
storm
water
management.
We
also
have
issues
with
aging
infrastructure
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
expand
the
investment
like
we've
done
at
harbor
palms.
Finally,
I've
shared
with
you
some
some
of
the
reasons
I'm
running.
Let
me
tell
you
my
motivation
for
running
I'm
running
because,
as
corny
as
it
sounds,
I
love
this
town.
I
want
to
focus
my
energy
here
in
oldsmar.
I've
been
on
multiple
boards.
A
E
C
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
doug
beavis
candidate
for
oldsmar
city
council
seat
2..
Thank
you
to
the
league
of
women
voters
for
facilitating
tonight's
forum,
I'm
a
40-year
resident
of
the
tampa
bay
area
and
a
22-year
resident
of
oldsmar.
I
was
a
council
member
for
four
years
and
your
mayor
for
six
years,
I'm
a
full-time
realtor
and
a
part-time
radio
personality
on
99.5
qik.
C
In
the
past,
I've
worked
in
the
engineering
field
for
over
30
years,
doing
stormwater
design
for
projects
here
in
the
tampa
bay
area
and
around
the
world.
Well
in
support
of
the
downtown
development.
Lately,
it
has
sucked
a
lot
of
the
oxygen
out
of
the
room.
I
hope
we
get
to
talk
more
about
it
and,
more
specifically
how
the
density
increase
has
really
been
misrepresented.
C
The
decisions
that
are
made
up
here
are
more
than
just
about
downtown.
They
are
not
republican
or
democratic;
they
should
be
about
what
is
best
for
our
residents,
businesses
and
our
community.
Over
my
10
years
on
council,
I
was
part
of
10
public
council
priority
planning
sessions.
Your
council
discusses
and
votes
on
items
that
impact
the
entire
city,
like
the
not
so
sexy,
reverse
osmosis
water
plant
or
the
wastewater
treatment
facility,
better
known
as
the
poop
plant.
C
They
vote
on
infrastructure
improvements
like
the
12
million
harbor
palms
project,
but
we
also
talk
about
fun
things
like
the
spray
park,
improvements,
outdoor
hockey,
rink
or
our
10
miles
of
trails
that
we
have
in
oldsmar
connecting
our
pipes
parks.
They
talk
about
resiliency
and
our
environment
and
how
to
protect
it
as
a
city.
They
have
some
of
the
same
problems.
Businesses
have,
which
is
how
to
attract
and
retain
quality
employees.
They
also
negotiate
and
approve
contracts
with
our
first
responders
for
the
safety
of
our
community.
C
I
have
been
served
on
boards
of
psta
ford,
pinellas
tourist
development
council
and
the
current
board
of
the
jolly
trolley
as
well
as
holiday
sharing
fund.
I
have
the
support
of
our
two
former
mayors,
raniker
in
beaverland,
and
also
mayor
julie,
bujowski
from
dunedin,
commissioner
dave
eggers,
senator
ed
hooper,
and
many
right
here
in
our
community,
including
our
palm
harbor
oldsmar,
firefighters,
local
289,
vote,
beavis
seat
2
on
march
15th.
D
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
My
name
is
jared
buchman
and
I'm
running
for
baltimore
county,
see
baltimore
city,
council
seat,
2.,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
legal
women
voters
in
the
chamber
of
commerce
for
hosting
this
forum
tonight,
so
the
citizens
can
make
informed
decisions
about
their
city's
leadership
in
the
city's
direction.
D
Since
I
first
filed
to
run
I've
spoken
to
many
residents
from
all
over
oldsmore
about
our
great
city,
we
spoke
about
common
and
uncommon
interests.
We
spoke
about
things,
we
saw
differently
and
things
we
saw
the
same.
We
were.
There
were
people
that
were
unaware
that
there
was
an
election
even
coming
up.
There
were
people
that
were
unaware
that
there
were
even
municipal
elections
that
were
having
I
decided
to
run
because
as
a
city,
we
have
a
lot
of
issues
that
are
concerning
to
our
citizens
and
we
need
new,
fresh
ideas.
We
need
new
perspectives.
D
More
specifically,
we
need
new
and
we
need
more
input
from
our
residents.
First,
we
need
to
develop
our
downtown,
but
we
need
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
brings
economic
vitality
to
the
area
is
designed
with
a
sense
of
community
and
is
organized
and
promoted
to
attract
visitors
and
local
residents
from
surrounding
areas.
D
There
have
been
many
oldsmar
municipal
elections
in
the
past
10
years,
where
candidates
have
run
unopposed
these
past
non-contested
elections
are
not
good
for
any
city
or
any
organization,
as
opposing
views
are
not
challenged
in
a
public
setting
new
and
fresh
ideas,
don't
get
discovered
and
candidates
who
run
are
opposed.
They
tend
not
to
feel
accountable
to
the
citizens
of
that
city.
Your
local
government
is
the
only
place
where
you
have
a
vote
and
a
voice
to
elect
all
the
officials
who
will
guide
the
future
of
your
city.
D
E
C
The
history,
the
energy,
the
diversity
of
our
youth
and
our
elderly,
I
think
the
small
town
flair,
but
yet
with
a
big
town,
feel,
is
something
that
that
I
really
aspire.
C
I
grew
up
in
the
midwest
and
it
was
very
neighborhood-centric,
and
I
thought
that
that
was
a
a
great
feature
that
I
have
here
and
I
just
love
to
be
able
to
serve,
and
I
love
the
the
events
that
we
do
here
in
the
the
coming
together
of
all
of
our
citizens,
both
that
live
here
and
residents
that
come
from
other
parts
of
the
area
to
enjoy
oldsmar.
E
Thank
you,
mr
buckman,
and
if
any
of
you
would
like
me
to
repeat
the
questions
you
may
at
any
time,
please.
D
I
think
you
know
my
favorite
thing
about.
Oldsmar
is
our
motto.
You
know
it's
a
great
place
to
live
work
and
play.
We
have
great
parks.
We
have
a
great
organizational
city
staff
that
we
work
with.
We
have
a
great
fire
department
and
police
organization
with
the
pinellas
county
sheriff's
office
that
keep
our
city
safe.
We
have
a
lot
of
great
parks.
We
have
some
of
the
best
a-rated
schools
in
pinellas
county
for
for
elementary
schools,
we're
centrally
located
to
all
the
major
airports
in
the
area
we're
centrally
located
to
all
the
beaches.
B
I
am
grateful
that
I
live
in
such
a
wonderful
city
in
2014
to
2016
I
was
the
centennial
chairman
for
our
100
year
celebration,
our
goal,
the
whole
centennial
task
force.
Our
number
one
goal
was
to
bring
the
people
of
this
city
together.
That's
what
we
did.
We
had.
Events
in
the
city
of
oldsmar
downtown
at
ariel's
park,
auto,
show
dinner
dance.
We
brought
the
people
of
this
city
together,
and
that
is
what
I
want
to
do
as
mayor
is
continue
to
have
bringing
the
people
together
for
the
city
of
oldsmar.
Thank
you.
A
I
love
the
events
we
do
here.
I
love
the
way
that
they're
family
events
they're
family
friendly.
I
love
the
fact
that
our
city
has
40
percent
parks
and
it's
and
all
of
its
landmass
we're
the
only
ones
in
the
state
who
can
brag
that
much.
I
love
the
fact
that
we
all
know
each
other
yeah.
We
can
disagree
on
things,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
still
a
community
here's
the
thing
in
all
the
years
I've
served.
A
I've
come
to
appreciate
this
there's
the
thing
that
makes
the
difference
between
being
a
city
versus
a
community
is
our
people.
Our
people
really
define
us.
We
have
this
discussion
all
the
time
we
help
neighbors
we're
not
that
kind
of
community.
You
can
live
next
to
someone
and
you
don't
trust
them
until
you
have
a
reason
to
trust
them,
we're
the
opposite.
We
help
someone
and
trust
them
until
you
have
a
reason
not
to,
but
what
makes
us
truly
more
than
just
a
city.
It's
our
people.
E
D
You
know
it's
a
great
question.
I
think
a
lot
of
us
understand
the
the
side
of
the
density
issue,
I'm
on
and
speaking
to
local
residents
in
the
immediate
area.
These
residents
were
not
even
aware
of
this
density
increase
that
was
coming
down
the
pipe
as
your
next
city
council
member.
I
have
committed
myself
to
holding
monthly
quarterly
town
halls.
B
Thank
you,
mr
saraki.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
In
2009,
when
I
decided
to
become
get
involved
in
the
city
of
oldsmar
politics,
I
went
door-to-door
in
my
neighborhood
and
I
started
gathering
email
ids
from
their
citizens
so
that
I
could
communicate
better
with
them.
Today
I
have
over
8
000
email
ids
in
the
city
of
oldsmar,
where
I
can
send
out
an
e-blast
and
communicate
with
the
the
citizens
of
oldsmar
to
keep
them
updated
on
current
events.
B
I
have
three
meet
and
greets
planned
for
this
this
next
next
two
weeks,
I
want
the
citizens
to
come
out
and
meet
me.
I
want
to
hear
your
concerns
about
this
city.
I
want
to
keep
the
communication
open
for
this
residents,
so
we
can
improve
the
process
of
communication
in
our
city
so
that
we
can
grow
together.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
E
A
A
In
particular,
since
I've
been
mayor,
we've
added
the
electronic
newsletters
we've
added
the
email
alerts
and
blasts
for
any
meeting
that
we're
having
I've
actually
added
coffee
with
the
mayor
on
facebook
to
try
to
increase
communication,
but
it's
an
area
that
we
always
try
to
work
to
improve
and
yet
there's
one
that
sometimes
gets
missed,
and
the
fact
that
there
are
certain
requirements
that
we
must
do
within
our
ordinances.
A
There's
requirements
that
we
have
from
this
county
and
state
that
we
have
to
follow
certain
processes,
and
this,
such
as
public
hearings
and
those
types
of
things,
that's
very
important
to
remember.
We
can't
arbitrarily
change
it.
There's
a
process
to
go
through.
I
have
suggested
that
we
start
for
any
development
agreement
that
we
now
hold
a
multitude
of
show-and-tell
opportunities,
so
people
can
ask
questions
and
get
better
answers.
C
You
bill
so
I
started.
Excuse
me
on
council
in
2009.,
we
didn't
use
a
lot
of
facebook,
we
didn't
have
instagram,
we
didn't
have
podcasts,
we
we
did
didn't,
have
great
communications
and,
as
mayor
seidel
has
indicated
over
the
years,
we
have
greatly
improved
this.
We
now
have
podcasts,
we
have
websites,
we
have
facebook,
we
have
instagram,
we
have
an
amazing
magazine,
that's
published
that
lists
everything
that's
going
on
in
the
city.
The
city
manager
puts
out
a
newsletter
that
talks
about
everything
we
have
calendars.
C
We
have
council
meetings,
we
have
board
meetings
and
we
still
run
into
people
whether
it's
about
a
council
meeting
and
the
downtown
development,
or
it
is
what
an
event
that
we
have.
We
still
have
people.
That
said,
I
didn't
know
anything
about
it,
so
we
need
to
find
out
where
they
are
going
for
their
information
and
how
we
get
it
in
front
of
them.
I
think
we
always
continue
to
try
and
prove
our
communications.
I
think
we
probably
have
some
of
the
best
communications
in
pinellas
county
with
our
residents.
If
they
choose
to
be
informed.
E
B
Mr
chair,
that's
a
wonderful
question.
If
I
had
to
change
one
thing
in
the
city
of
oldsmar's
code:
well,
I
guess
it
would
be
I'd
like
to
have
more
bike
trails.
I
love
our
trails.
We
have
plenty
of
trails
currently
right
now,
but
I
think
that
would
be
fun
to
do
something
like
that
to
continue
more
trails.
B
As
far
as
changing
our
code,
I
don't
think
I
would
really
honestly
I
wouldn't
want
to
change
anything.
Okay,
I
think
we're
doing
a
great
job
right
now.
Personally,
the
city
of
old
and
smart.
A
I
think
our
code
actually
has
to
change
a
little
bit
every
year,
because
the
environment
changes
for
us
like,
for
example,
right
now.
One
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
see
is
add
to
some
of
our
building
code
and
it's
it's
an
appropriate
time
to
have
the
discussion
we
should
start
talking
about
when
we
have
multi-family
developments
requiring
the
developer
to
include
electrical
charging
stations
to
start
to
become
better
prepared
for
the
future.
These
are
the
types
of
things
that,
as
time
goes
on,
we
should
be
looking
forward
and
making
those
types
of
changes.
A
You
can't
arbitrarily
change
code
because
you
can't
devalue
someone's
property,
they
have
property
rights,
but
we
certainly
can
think
about
ways
to
improve
it
for
the
future,
including
some
of
the
issues
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
with
the
2.0
2.0
fema
flood
requirements,
the
new
rating
system-
that's
forcing
so
many
citizens
to
get
flood
insurance.
We
can
improve
code
in
that
which
will
help
lower
our
rate.
We've
already
done
it
recently,
but
that's
a
big
area
to
focus
on.
E
C
It's
an
interesting
question
and
I
think
it's
something
that
continues
to
change
over
time.
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
that
we
have
done
in
years
past
way
back
in
the
1900s,
maybe
aren't
applicable
today.
I
think
that
some
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
look
at
are
like
the
downtown
area
and
things
that
we
are
doing
down
there.
That
might
encourage
different
types
of
development.
I
think
the
demand
that
we
have
today
is
different
than
the
demand
we
had
20
25
30
years
ago.
C
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
look
at
how
we
improve
things
in
our
city
become
a
better
city,
because,
if
you're
not
moving
forward
you're
moving
backwards,
so
I
I
think
I
don't
have
one
specific,
but
I
think
we
need
to
really
continually
visit
our
zoning
and
our
ordinances
and
the
things
that
we
allow,
because
some
of
them,
I
think,
are
antiquated
and
are
due
to
be
updated.
So
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
continue
with
that.
E
You,
mr
buckman,.
D
Yeah
so
bill.
I
thank
you
for
the
question.
You
know.
I
recently
served
on
the
ordinance
review
committee
and
we
went
through
and
updated
a
lot
of
those
ordinances,
but
I
think
for
me.
Looking
at
the
city
code,
one
of
the
biggest
thing
I'd
like
to
see
is
giving
more
rights
back
to
the
homeowners,
giving
the
homeowners
the
ability
to
do
things
on
their
properties
that
within
the
city
guidelines
without
having
to
pull
permits
for
every
little
thing
that
goes
on
out
there.
D
E
Okay,
thank
you.
The
next
question
goes
to
mr
seidel
and
the
question
reads:
there
is
conflict
over
the
increasing
density
in
downtown
from
30
units
per
acre
to
65
units
per
acre.
Would
you
have
done
anything
differently
if
you
were
on
the
city
council
or
were
mayor
when
that
decision
was
made
and
if
so,
what.
A
Well,
I
am
on
the
council
and
I
am
the
mayor,
but
let
me
let
me
clarify
something,
and
this
is
this
kind
of
communications
that
maybe
we
need
to
work
on
we're,
not
changing
the
density
from
30
to
65.
What
we're
doing
is
creating
an
incentive,
and
let
me
give
an
example.
We
have
seven
acres
right
here
next
to
city
hall,
two
we'd
like
to
keep
for
park.
A
Five
are
what
we're
talking
about
developing
so
right
now,
without
changing
any
code
in
those
five,
you
could
have
two
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand
square
feet
of
office
space,
which
is
like
two
and
a
half
of
the
six
story.
Hampton
inns,
you
could
have
150
apartments.
You
could
have
up
to
up
to
a
five-story
parking
garage
right
now
without
any
change.
What
we're
saying
is
we
want
to
create
an
incentive
that
we
go
to
the
developer
and
say:
listen.
A
C
Thank
you,
and
so
I
would
say,
we've
been
going
through
this
process
for
25
years
and
there
have
been
six
or
eight
or
10
proposals
that
have
been
submitted
to
various
city
councils,
including
ones
that
I
have
sat
on
and
some
of
those
developments
proposed
even
higher
density
higher
buildings
than
we
have
before
the
city
council
right
now
and
to
talk
about
the
density
issue.
A
density
increase
an
incentive
going
from
30
units
to
65
units,
an
acre
that
term
unit
does
not
have
a
defined
size
to
it.
C
It
could
be
a
lot
different
if
it's
30
units
of
two
bedroom
and
three
bedrooms
may
be
bigger
than
if
it's
65
units
of
studio
apartments,
one
bedroom
and
two
bedrooms.
So
I
don't
think
the
size
and
volume
of
what
that
quote
unit
is
has
been
really
discussed.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
clarified
and
let
that
known
to
the
people,
because
I
think
you
could
potentially
at
30
units,
take
up
more
space
than
you
could
at
65
units
with
smaller,
more
compact
units.
So
that's
my
input
on
density.
D
Yeah
so
as
as
most
people
know,
I've
taken
a
strong
issue
against
the
density
proposed
increase
and
I'll
continue
to
maintain
that
position.
Until
I
see
something
that
makes
sense
to
me,
but
I
don't
believe
the
process
has
been
giving
the
the
proper
vetting
and
the
proper
really
thinking
outside
the
box
that
we
need
on
our
city
council,
because
I
believe
that
no
one
should
complain
about
an
issue
without
bringing
ideas
to
the
table.
I've
have
had
conversations,
I've
spoken
to
federal
and
state
government
organizations
that
actually
help
to
revitalize
downtown
areas.
D
They
bring
new
ideas,
new
concepts,
they
help
to
create
jobs,
save
tax
out
there
and
preserve
the
community's
historic
interests,
and
it
builds
a
sense
of
community
and
community
pride,
so
yeah.
If
I
was
on
council-
and
this
came
before
me-
I'd
want
to
look
at
all
available
resources
and
think
outside
the
box
of
what
are
we
missing?
What
can
we
do
better
for
those
residents
of
our
city.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
We
have
a
box,
and
currently
we
have
30
units
in
that
box.
They
want
to
change
that.
To
65.
it's
an
acre
box.
We
can't
go
wider,
we
can
only
go
taller.
65
units
means
taller.
As
the
mayor
just
said,
we
are
zoned
currently
right
now
for
six
stories
and
150
apartments.
They
want
to
change
the
density
so
that
they
can
build
over
317
apartments
on
the
property
right
next
door
here
to
city
hall.
B
That
is
disastrous.
We
want
to
keep
our
hometown
feel
here
in
oldsmar.
We
don't
need
to
increase
the
density.
We
can
build
a
downtown
that
the
people
will
love
with
shops,
retail
shops
and
apart
townhomes
we
can
build
whatever
we
want
without
increasing
the
density.
I
am
totally
against
the
increase
of
the
density
of
the
city
of
oldsmar.
There
is
no
need
for
it.
We
do
not
need
to
increase
our
density.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
E
C
As
I
think,
all
of
us
would
agree
both
on
council
and
in
the
community,
we
want
a
vibrant
downtown.
We
want
something:
that's
walkable,
that's
friendly.
Our
downtown
is
a
little
bit
different
than
the
our
sister
cities
that
we've
been
compared
to
dunnin
and
safety
harbor.
They
actually
have
a
main
street
and
they
have
a
development
down
there.
I
don't
know
if
many
people
know
this
but
downtown
dunedin.
Not
that
long
ago
was
a
ghost
town
and
they
have
slowly
progressed
and
and
they
have
developed
their
downtown.
C
Our
main
street
is
tampa
road,
so
we
can't
really
develop
that
with
you
know
without
the
dot's
approval,
but
I
think
a
walkable
downtown.
I
think
we
all
want
it.
We've
wanted
it
for
25
years
we've
acquired
land,
we
being
the
city
of
oldsmar,
has
acquired
land
for
this
downtown
and
I
think
we're
as
close
as
we
have
ever
been
to
a
walkable
downtown.
D
D
I'm
excited
about
the
library
project.
What's
going
on
there,
I'm
excited
to
see
what
the
developers
at
the
flea
market
is
going
to
going
to
do
to
actually
bring
some
sense
of
what
is
oldsmar.
Who
is
oldsmar?
What
do
we
want
to
be
so?
Bringing
some
of
that
entertainment
and
commercial
and
residential
to
the
area,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
very
important
to
our
success
as
a
city.
My
my
good
friend
out
of
tampa
he
goes
you
live
in
ole
tomorrow.
That's
just
a
flea
market
right.
D
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
am
very
excited
about
the
next
year
plan:
the
vision
of
the
city
of
oldsmar's,
downtown
area.
I'm
really
looking
forward
also
to
the
library,
the
town
homes
that
are
presented
right
now
to
the
to
the
city
of
oldsmar,
with
a
theater
that
people
can
gather,
we
can
have
place
for
our
chil,
the
kids
and
the
children
and
the
residents
of
our
city.
B
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
that
as
far
as
next
door
to
downtown
that
land
is
owned
by
the
people
of
this
city,
the
taxpayers
we
paid
for
that
land
we
own
that
land.
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
something
different,
maybe
townhomes
selling
parcels
of
land,
maybe
selling
to
developers
or
even
individuals
that
would
buy
parcels
of
that
land
from
the
city
of
oldsmar.
The
city
votes
will
work
into
a
development
agreement
with
the
resident
or
the
the
corporation
to
buy
land,
build
a
retail
shop
on
the
bottom,
with
a
townhome
on
the
top.
E
And
finally,
mr
saegel,
I
don't.
A
Need
the
question
again,
thank
you.
Well
let
me
let
me
disagree
with
my
friend
soraki
here,
because
that
would
make
us
developers
it
would
mean
we
would
take
on
all
the
risk
and
it
would
guarantee
that
we
would
have
to
spend
the
30
25
to
30
million
dollars
to
put
the
infrastructure
in
and
to
build
a
parking
garage.
Listen
everybody
who
has
a
downtown
go
to
safety.
Harbor
go
to
dunedin
they'll.
A
If
we
allow
for
more
residential
versus
all
office
and
residential,
we
can
negotiate
with
the
developer
to
ensure
that
they
pay
for
the
infrastructure,
and
we
don't
have
to
issue
a
bond
and
take
on
all
that
debt.
That's
really
the
difference
in
this
issue.
In
terms
of
elements,
an
exam,
an
active
park
is
something
that
we've
all
talked
about:
good
restaurants,
shops,
retail
shops
in
a
connection
to
the
other
side
of
town
of
the
library.
Rather
so
it
creates
this
walkable
area
where
we
have
the
black
box
theodore
evidence.
Thank
you.
D
Absolutely
no
experience
not
to
joke
about
it
a
little
bit,
but
I've
not
been
involved
with
that
process.
I've
watched
it
from
a
distance.
I've
watched
it
evolve
over
time.
E
B
To
be
honest,
mr
chairman,
I
feel
that
the
city
of
oldsmar
currently
does
an
amazing
job
with
our
our
budget.
The
city
employees
have
secured
a
4.,
4.05
millage
rate,
for
I
believe
for
the
last
14
years.
They
have
done
an
amazing
job.
With
our
budget
I
actually
enjoy
working
with
city
staff.
On
our
budget.
I,
like
learning
about
the
processes
of
budgeting
over
the
next
five
years
of
what
equipment
we're
going
to
buy,
what
improvements
we're
going
to
make
to
the
city,
how
we
plan
the
items
out
to
grow
our
city.
B
B
A
Thank
you
well,
our
city
and
our
staff
actually
have
established
kind
of
the
gold
standard
and
budgeting
process.
We've
won
multiple
awards
year
after
year,
and
it's
not
a
coincidence.
It's
because
of
the
process
we
go
through.
All
of
our
staff
is
involved
in
the
budgeting
process.
They
work
with
the
city
manager,
the
department
heads
submit
their
budgets,
they
go
through
it.
We
then
go
through
line
by
line
and
I've
been
part
of
many
budget
planning
sessions.
A
We
go
through
line
by
line
with
the
city
manager,
it's
a
very
open
process,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that,
in
addition
to
doing
that,
with
the
capital
improvement
budget,
one
of
the
things
that's
important
is
we
put
all
of
this
information
into
this
amazing
document.
Our
budget
isn't
just
numbers
and
it's
explanations
in
it,
and
it
goes
very
deep
and
it's
available
to
all
of
our
citizens
and
our
staff
does
an
incredible
job.
C
You
I
have
been
through
10
budget
reviews
with
the
city
of
oldsmar,
and
it
it's
a
it's
an
enlightening
experience.
Every
time
you
go
through
it,
we
are
fiscally
responsible,
we're
solid,
financially
and
I
accredit
that
to
the
years
and
years
of
leadership,
whether
it's
under
city
manager,
bruce
haddock,
city
manager,
al
braithway,
who
is
also
our
finance
director
and
very
responsible.
Our
current
city
manager,
felicia
donnelly
some
of
the
exciting
things.
C
I
think
that
we
do
as
a
council
as
we
compare
what
the
department
head
might
ask
for
and
what
the
city
manager
actually
approves.
Sometimes
there's
not
a
huge
discrepancy,
but
sometimes
there's
a
major
discrepancy
and
the
department
heads
are
there
at
the
meeting.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
why
the
city
managers
are
improving,
maybe
a
lesser
amount
and
from
the
department
head
what
they
may
be
cutting
out
or
what
they
might
need.
C
E
B
Mr
chair,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
am
totally
in
favor
of
having
town
hall
meetings
for
the
citizens
to
be
able
to
speak
to
the
city
council
and
the
mayor.
The
mayor
has
just
recently
said
that
he
would
like
to
start
doing
that
after
we
get
a
development
agreement
from
one
of
for
the
for
the
downtown
area,
I
don't
think
we
should
wait.
I
think
we
should
have
a
down
a
town
hall
meeting
and
start
immediately
right
after
this
election.
B
A
You
listen,
I'm
whether
you
call
it
a
public
hearing
or
whether
you
want
to
call
it
a
town
hall
meeting
the
formats
are
the
same.
Everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
you're,
not
in
a
situation
where
you
can
constructively
go
back
and
forth
and
answer
questions
we
have
as
part
of
our
process
by
ordinance
public
hearing
they're
part
of
the
process.
We
have
two
public
hearings
when
it
comes
to
certain
major
decisions.
A
We
go
through
that
process,
so
whether
you
want
to
call
it
a
public
hearing
or
whether
you
want
to
call
it
a
town
hall
meeting,
essentially
they're
operated
the
same.
It's
the
reason
why
I
have
proposed
that
we
have
a
show
and
tell
it's
a
much
different
format.
It's
much
more
productive
and
yes,
we
need
something
in
front
of
us
to
show
and
tell
about
that's
why
we
need
to
wait
till
we
have
a
proposed
development
agreement,
so
we
can
answer
questions
otherwise
we're
just
speculating,
and
it's
it's
not
productive.
E
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
beavis.
C
Thank
you
town.
I
I
would
agree
with
mayor
seidel
we
have
had,
and
I
I
assume
this
question
comes
about
because
of
the
downtown
development
and
the
outcry
for
town
hall
meetings.
As
mayor
seidel
has
called
it
it's
kind
of
semantics,
what
you
call
it
every
meeting
that
we
have
or
that
they
have
at
the
city
council,
there's
a
citizens
open
forum
where
you
can
speak
about
anything
that
you
want.
Obviously,
if
they're
on
an
agenda,
we
would
like
you
to
talk
about
them
there.
C
I
can't,
I
don't
have
the
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but
since
this
process
has
started
with
the
current
developer
downtown,
we
have
had
probably
30
40
50
public
types
of
meetings
that
have
been
advertised,
so
we
do
have
it.
I
agree
with
the
mayor
that-
and
this
applies
to
anything,
not
just
the
downtown,
whether
it's
our
sports
complex
until
we
have
something
a
site
plan
or
a
development
agreement.
The
developer
can't
give
us
a
site
plan
to
even
discuss
we.
C
E
E
D
Absolutely-
and
one
of
the
main
reasons
is
when
you
look
at
a
public
hearing
versus
a
town
hall
meeting
or
a
open
meeting,
it's
a
different
rules
of
order.
It's
a
different
rules
of
the
game.
The
other
part
that
we
have
a
problem
with
with
these
public
hearings
is
the
age
the
average
age
of
oldsmar
is
coming
down
our
age.
Are
we
have
a
lot
of
young
families
moving
to
the
area
and
coming
to
a
city
hall
meeting
at
seven
o'clock
on
a
tuesday
night
to
voice
their
opinion
is
sometimes
impossible
to
do.
E
Okay,
thank
you
changing
subjects
and
starting
with
mr
seidel
sea
level
rise.
Flood
map
changes
are
all
outside
threats
to
oldsmar.
What
policies
and
efforts
will
you
support
regarding
climate
resiliency?
Thank.
A
You
great
question
in
2020,
while,
as
serving
as
mayor,
this
council
took
a
bold
step
where
we
decided
to
invest
75,
000
and
a
study
on
sustainability
and
resiliency,
and
really
what
could
we
do
as
a
city
in
concrete
steps,
real
steps
to
improve
our
sustainability
and
I'm
proud
to
say
that,
because
of
that,
we
were
one
of
the
first
cities
by
the
way
in
pinellas
county
to
take
that
step,
and
so
because
of
that,
we've
come
up
with
a
plan
where
we
are
starting
to
look
at
different
areas.
A
First
is
in
our
hard
assets,
how
do
we
improve
their
sustainability?
You
know
our
our
our
sewage
treatment
plant
control
booth
is
being
raised.
It's
it's
an
asset
that
right
now
is
near
the
water
that
could
flood.
We
need
to
change
that.
That's
just
one
example.
It's
also
why
the
governor
came
here
and
helped
give
us
matching
funds
of
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
C
You
resiliency
is
something
that
is
very
important
for
not
only
our
city
but
our
county,
our
state,
I
mean,
I
think
this
has
to
work
collectively
all
together.
If
we
do
improvements,
but
safety
harbor
doesn't
do
improvements,
I'm
not
sure
that
we've
gained
anything.
I
think
collectively
we
have
to
work
together.
C
I
think
it's
important
that
we
continue
to
visit
our
environment
and
our
impact
on
it
as
a
city.
I
think
that's
something
that's
fairly
new.
What
does
it
mean?
You
know
sea
level
rise.
It
depends
on
if
you
take
the
worst
case
scenario
talking
about
the
dunning
causeway.
It's
got
to
be
one
elevation
and
if
you
take
the
moderate
conservative
elevation,
it
would
be
another
thing.
The
things
that
are
affected
by
that
is
cost
the
cost
to
build.
It's
super
high
versus
the
cost
to
build
it
moderately
high.
C
D
Yeah,
so
you
know
recently
the
I
applaud
the
efforts
by
the
city
council,
city
staff
and
everybody
on
our
award-winning
resiliency
plan.
I
read
through
the
plan.
I
thought
it
was
some
great
ideas
that
came
to
the
table,
but
I'm
also
looking
forward
to
what
else
can
be
brought
to
that
plan.
D
What
else
can
we
bring
to
the
table
that
can
help
us
look
10
years
down
the
road
15
years
down
the
road
20
years
down
the
road
to
make
sure
that
resiliency
plan
continues
to
be
updated
as
things
change,
we
start
to
see
things
like
the
new
flood
maps
and
how
that's
going
to
affect
our
our
local
area,
our
local
residents,
and
how
it's
going
to
affect
their
their
flood
insurance
rates.
How
do
we
protect
against
that?
How
do
we
protect
the
residents
from
those
unneeded
increases
in
the
flood
insurance
rate?
D
So
I'm
excited
about
our
resilience
plan.
I'm
looking
forward
to
moving
forward
in
keeping
that
front
center
moving
forward.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes,
sea
level
rise
is
a
serious
issue
here
in
the
city
of
oldsmar,
with
the
recent
flood
match
changes
and
the
increase
of
the
homeowners
insurance
policies.
Some
of
the
homeowners
here
that
never
had
to
pay
for
flood
insurance
now
have
to
pay
for
flood
insurance.
It's
a
serious
issue.
I
want
to
say
one
thing:
the
subs
sub-sustainability
report
that
the
city
of
oldsmere
did
present
to
the
city
council
and
to
the
residents.
I
shared
that
with
the
suncoast
league
of
cities.
B
It
is
an
amazing
report,
just
as
jared
buckman
just
said.
That
report
shows
that
our
city
is
concerned
and
ready
to
tackle
sea
level
rise
when
governor
desantis
came
to
visit
us
here
and
gave
us
that
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
us
for
sea
level
rise
and
and
to
kelp
oldsmar,
take
care
of
this.
This
is
a
great
plan.
I
fully
support
it
and
I
am
looking
forward
to
this
keeping
oldsmar
safe
from
flood.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
E
C
Well,
it's
a
running
joke
between
current
mayor
seidel
and
myself,
but
I
when
we
started
the
pandemic,
I
said
gosh,
I'm
glad
you're
mayor
and
he's
done
a
great
job
facing
the
many
things
that
that
are
in
front
of
him
and
and
it
is
you
and
it's
not
just
one
person
we
have
to
rely
on
our
city
staff.
I
think
we
have
to
make
sure
that
our
our
facilities
are
outfitted
with
the
best
technology
that
we
can
to
prevent
a
hack
into
our
system.
C
I
think
that
the
covid
was
something
that
that
the
current
mayor
handled
terrifically,
as
did
the
county
and
the
state
of
florida,
can
you
be
ready
for
everything?
No,
but
I
think
we
have
an
amazing
staff.
I
was
part
of
the
evacuation
process
when
we
had
the
hurricane
a
couple
of
years
ago.
That
was
an
interesting
process
to
be
in
the
eoc,
so
I've
been
there,
I've
lived
it.
I
didn't
know
when
we
opened
the
doors
outside
if
we
were
going
to
be
underwater
or
what
was
going
to
be
happening.
C
D
I
think
it's
a
great
question
and
I
think
you
know
when
we
look
at
being
prepared.
You
know
always
prepare
for
the
worst
hope
for
the
best
out
of
the
outcomes
and
having
a
proper
preparation
plan
in
place
for
the
emergency
operation
says
for
when
hurricanes
come
through
or
different
challenges
that
we're
faced
with
this
city
and
making
sure
that
we
have
a
plan.
That's
executable,
that
people
understand
that
as
citizens
are
aware,
as
well
as
city
staff
and
everybody
else.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
That's
a
very
loaded
question,
so
I
want
to
give
some
certain
things.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
drinking
water
of
the
city
of
oldsmore
city
staff.
When
that
attack
entered
our
reverse
osmosis
water
plant,
our
city
staff
took
control
of
that
and
stopped
it
immediately.
B
That
shows
you
what
kind
of
people
we
have
working
for
the
city
of
oldsmar.
We
are
blessed
to
have
those
type
of
employ
employees
here,
the
pandemic
kovit.
That
has
changed
our
whole
situation.
The
way
we
think
the
way
we
work
currently
right
now,
a
lot
of
the
corporations
here
in
oldsmar
the
employees
are
working
from
home.
They
don't
go
into
the
office
anymore
nielsen
is
there's
no
one
there
they're
all
working
at
home.
I
have
two
neighbors
in
my
neighborhood
that
work
at
home.
That's
completely
changed
the
hurricane.
B
E
A
Well,
I'm
having
firsthand
experience
at
this,
because
you
also
left
out
where
we
learned
about
the
problem
with
our
bmx
track
becoming
dangerous.
So,
let's
add
that
into
the
list
of
unknowns
that
came
our
way,
that
as
a
council,
we
dealt
with
it
and
also
I
will
tell
you
that
there's
certain
I've
learned
there's
certain
key
things.
Communications
is
number
one
right.
When
you
get
information
about
an
emergency,
that's
going
on,
we
we
do
a
great
job
at
planning
for
hurricanes,
but
some
of
the
stuff
that's
happened.
A
Certainly
covet
was
unprecedented
right,
but
communicating
with
our
citizens
what's
going
on
trying
to
communicate
with
our
businesses.
What's
going
on,
I
mean
that
was
really
an
important
part
of
dealing
with
the
pandemic.
I
will
also
tell
you
it
takes
leadership
to
be
firm.
You
have
to
make
difficult
decisions
in
those
serious
serious
moments
and
you
get
good
advice
from
your
staff.
You
try
to
work
to
the
the
most
you
can
with
counsel,
but
we
have
these
sunshine
laws,
so
we
we
don't
get
to
talk
about
every
moving
part
and
under
an
emergency
order.
E
D
D
D
I
also
think
that
we
tend
to
lose
focus
with
our
neighbors
to
the
north,
and
I
say
our
neighbors,
but
really
the
citizens
to
the
north.
We
see
a
lot
of
things
happening
south
of
tampa
road
in
all
of
those
communities,
but
all
those
communities,
north
tampa
road
need
to
be
part
of
this
process
as
well.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Back
in
2015,
when
I
was
first
elected
as
city
council,
I
brought
to
the
board
the
council
that
I
would
like
to
work
with
harbor
palms
to
get
that
infrastructure
taken
care
of
currently
right.
Now
that
my
street
is
totally
torn
apart,
they
are
working
to
replace
the
water
lines,
fix
the
curbs
fix
the
drainage
system.
I've
lived
in
that
community
for
20
years,
and
I've
seen
drainage
problems
for
20
years.
This
is
the
first
year
that
the
drainage
was
taken.
Care
of.
B
I
also
want
to
improve
our
sewer
plant,
we're
a
process
of
currently
working
on
improving
our
sewer
plant,
we're
currently
working
to
increase
more
public
arts,
safe
transportation
options.
I
want
to
see
improvements
to
our
parks
and
our
bike
trails,
but
most
of
all
the
city
of
oldsmar's
infrastructure
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
that's
going
to
be
one
of
my
main
priorities.
B
E
A
Thank
you.
I
you
don't
have
to
repeat
the
question
so
at
the
beginning
I
kind
of
stated
some
major
focal
points.
It
was
downtown,
it
was
expand,
save
our
bay,
it
was
also
infrastructure,
and
these
are
all
important
areas
that
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on,
but
I'm
going
to
take
this
opportunity
to
talk
just
a
little
bit
more
about
downtown.
You
know
I
want
to
see
that
process
through
look
for
20
years.
A
We've
worked
on
it,
we've
made
very
little
progress,
and
here
we
are
three
years
after
getting
elected
as
mayor,
and
we
have
a
whole
council
who's
worked
on
this,
not
just
me
but
three
years
ago.
Not
only
were
we
not
really
talking
about
it,
we
didn't
have
anyone
who
wanted
to
invest
in
it
today,
we're
all
talking
about
it
now.
I
know
we
have
to
come
to
an
agreement
on
what
we
want
to
see
there
but
we'll
get
there.
I
also
will
tell
you
three
years
ago:
no
one
wanted
to
invest.
A
C
Thank
you.
Obviously
we
all
are
talking
about
the
downtown
without
going
into
detail
about
it.
I
think
we're,
as
close
as
we've
ever
been
I'd
like
to
see
a
walkable
downtown,
a
vibrant,
downtown,
a
unique
downtown,
something
that
oldsmar
and
oldsmar
residents
are
proud
of
the
library
property
also
as
well.
When
I
was
mayor
a
few
years
ago.
C
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
at
our
council
priorities
was
we
kind
of
said,
let's
stop
building
new
things,
let's
focus
on
taking
care
of
the
things
that
we
have,
whether
it's
the
parks
that
we
have
and
we
have
a
lot
of
them
or
it's
the
not
so
pretty
stuff.
There's
things
under
the
grounds
like
the
harbor
palms
infrastructure,
12
million
dollar
project.
We
need
to
do
that.
We
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we
fire
are
financially
stable.
To
continue
to
do
that.
To
take
care
of
the
roads.
C
Are
the
roads,
the
way
that
they
should
be?
Are
we
collecting
enough
money
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
the
roads,
our
storm
sewers,
our
water
lines
and
the
res
recycled
lines,
and
things
like
that?
We
need
to
make
sure,
and
then
on
top
of
that,
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
focus
on
our
staff
and
have
great
staff
and
we
can
hold
on
to
them.
Thank
you.
E
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
sit
on
the
psta
board
as
a
secretary
or
excuse
me
treasurer
and
that
board
I
have
learned
so
much
about
the
transportation
around
pinellas
county.
Currently,
our
transportation
for
bus
system
and
oldsmar
works
fantastic.
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
perfect
example.
Just
yesterday
I
was
driving
my
car
down
in
harbor
palms
and
I
saw
a
psta
mini
bus
pulling
down
into
a
residential
area
to
pick
up
someone
who
who
was
needed.
B
Some
assistance,
maybe
handicapped,
I'm
not
sure,
but
the
psta
system
does
an
amazing
job
in
transportation
options
for
the
city
of
oldsmar.
If
there's
any
improvements,
I
would
like
to
see,
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
a
rail
system,
the
current
rail
system,
they're
building
from
cocoa
beach
to
orlando
I've
been
seeing
that
being
built.
I
would
like
that
to
bring
that
to
the
tampa
bay
area
and
maybe
right
to
old
school.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
A
You
well
listen
for
us
the
one
issue
and
I've
been
on
psta
board
as
well,
and
back
when
I
was
on
board.
We
had
one
major
bus
route
that
came
in
here
and
here
we
are
years
later
and
we
still
have
one
major
bus
route
that
comes
in
here.
That's
a
problem
because
our
population
has
grown.
Let
me
tell
you
part
of
the
reason
why
we
seem
not
to
be
able
to
get
expansion.
It's
because
we
lack
density
in
certain
areas
and
one
of
the
things
about
the
downtown
area
is
that's
on.
A
I
also
think
that
there's
other
types
of
transportation,
like
better
walking
trails
like
smart,
complete
streets
that
offer
up
more
safe
passage
on
the
sides.
C
Also
served
on
the
psta,
I
also
served
on
forward
pinellas
and
I
I
recently
had
a
conversation
with
whit,
blanton
from
forward
pinellas,
and
we
kind
of
talked
about
how
transportation
has
changed
not
just
over
the
years,
but
especially
with
coven
and
people
working
from
home.
It
looks
a
little
bit
different
now
and
I
think
they
are
revisiting
it.
They
as
forward
pinellas
and
the
psta
as
to
what
that
new
thing
looks
like
what
the
new
transportation
looks
like.
As
the
mayor
indicated.
Tampa
road
is
a
transit
corridor.
C
It
was
always
intended
to
be
a
transit
hub,
an
employment
center,
and
so
we
do
need
the
density
downtown.
I
don't
know
if
people
know
it,
but
there's
a
rail
system
that
ride
runs
from
downtown
st
peterborough
right
out
this
window,
all
the
way
down
to
downtown
tampa
and
I've
always
asked,
even
when
it
was
part
of
the
green
light
pinellas
I've
asked.
C
Why
are
we
not
at
least
talking
about
this
rail
system
and
why
that
can't
be
something
future
down
the
road,
and
I
was
kind
of
told
that
I
think
oldsmar
is
probably
going
to
get
a
connection
from
hillsborough
county
before
they're
ever
going
to
get
a
connection
from
pinellas?
Oh
yeah,
you
know
that.
D
I
I
feel,
like
I'm,
the
only
member
up
here
that
has
not
served
on
the
psta,
but
you
know
I
am
in
all
seriousness.
You
know
when
we
talk
about
transportation
issues.
The
last
thing
I
would
be
doing
is
proposing
a
density
increase
without
doing
some
proper
traffic
studies
to
understand
what
that
proposed
density
increase
would
be.
How
would
that
affect
the
local
traffic?
How
would
that
affect
our
transportation
issues
in
the
area?
D
We
haven't
done
that,
and
here
we
are
trying
to
propose
a
density
incentive
for
investors
to
come
in
and
build
this
density
downtown.
If
we
don't
require
the
density
now
for
additional
transportation
options,
why
are
we
increasing
density?
If
we
don't
know
what
that
impact
on
the
traffic
is
going
to
be
tampa?
Road
is
already
a
mess.
It's
already
a
mess
in
the
morning.
It's
a
mess
in
the
afternoon
bringing
more
cars
to
the
area.
Potentially
another
6
700
cars
is
not
an
option.
I
would
be
going
down
right
now.
Thank
you.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
Next
question
starts
with
mr
seidel.
What
is
your
opinion
of
the
city's
financial
status?
Should
anything
be
done
differently.
A
No,
actually,
I
think,
our
all
of
us-
and
I
think
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
leadership
that
we've
had
in
our
city
managers.
You
could
go
back
to
bruce
haddock,
certainly
to
al
braithwaite.
A
We
we
have
had
kind
of
a
culture
that
has
been
very
fiscally
conservative.
That
has
always
done
a
very
good
job
of
planning
and
we
work
hard
to
still
make
sound
investments
into
our
future.
I
do
think
infrastructure
is
an
area
that
we
we
could
do
better
in,
but
we've
done
so
in
such
a
way
that
we've
always
protected
not
increasing
or
millage
rate.
I've
been
on
council,
like
I
said
since,
on
and
off
since
2007
and
been
there
when
we
actually
lowered
it
twice.
A
C
I
I
think
I
mentioned
it
earlier
before
our
previous
city
manager
and
I
think
the
length
that
we
had
that
city
manager,
as
well
as
our
finance
director
al
braithway,
who
became
the
city
manager
and
now
felicia
donnelly
who
is
the
city
manager?
I
think
we
have
done
as
everybody
I
think
would
agree
up
here.
We
have
done
tremendous
from
a
financial
standpoint.
We
have
very
little
debt.
C
I
was
part
of
a
conversation
recently
that
talked
about
the
different
cities
in
the
state
of
florida
and
that
we
are
probably
an
anomaly
in
some
instances,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
other
cities
that
are
not
financially
stable,
they're.
You
know
they're
one
storm
away
from
bankruptcy
and
I
think
that
we're
financially
stable
to
be
able
to
quote
weather
a
storm
and
and
take
on
what
we
need
to
we
we
took
care
of.
As
councilmember
soreki
said,
we
removed
all
the
trees.
We
didn't
wait
for
the
replacement
money.
C
D
I
I
I
really
just
want
to
ask
you
really
what
mayor
seidel
and
mr
bevis
have
said.
You
know
the
city
has
done
a
great
job.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
review
the
budget.
Look
at
the
budget,
we're
very
fiscally
sound
in
how
we
spend
we're
very
good
stewards
of
the
tax
dollars,
and
I
want
to
applaud
everybody's
efforts
over
the
past
20
years
in
keeping
the
military
millage
rate
low,
some
of
the
lowest
in
pinellas
county
to
the
future.
D
We
have
to
think
hard
and
long
about
what
that
is,
though,
we
can't
keep
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
and
thinking
that
we
can
continue
to
keep
the
low
millage
rates
with
the
current
inflation
pressures
happening
around
the
country.
Things
are
getting
more
expensive
and
we've
got
to
find
ways
to
try
to
keep
that
military
as
little
as
possible.
Moving
forward.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
feel
our
city
is
doing
an
amazing
job.
Perfect
example:
veterans
park
they'll
be
paid
off
this
year.
I
believe
that
is
our.
This
is
that's
it.
It's
paid
for
harbor
palms
that
I
talked
about
already
perfect
example.
The
infrastructure
was
over
30
years
old.
It
needed
to
be
replaced.
Our
city
took
a
bond,
took
care
of
it.
Our
city
is
building
infrastructure
for
the
people
of
the
city
to
improve
the
quality
of
life.
That
is
amazing.
B
B
E
C
This
is
interesting.
It
came
up
at
one
of
our
meetings
about
the
the
town,
the
property
next
door,
and
I'm
not
sure
we
are
a
small
town.
You
know
we're
not
a
waldo
florida.
You
know
that's
a
small
town,
we're
we
have
a
small
town
feel,
and
we
never
ever
forget
that,
especially
here
in
the
old
part
of
oldsmar,
but
we
have
some
modern,
great
things:
a
reverse
osmosis
plant
that
council
member
one
of
the
commissioners
never
thought
that
we'd
be
able
to
do
so.
C
We're
not
really
a
small
town,
we're
a
vibrant,
live,
energetic
town,
but
not
necessarily
a
small
town,
we're
a
town
that
is
15
000
residents
in
the
evening,
but
we're
a
town
of
about
65
000
residents
during
the
day
or
with
employers.
So
we're
not
really
a
small
town,
we're
a
transit
corridor
that
has
more
cars
going
up
and
down
tampa
road
than
you
have
going
over
the
courtney
campbell
causeway.
That
doesn't
really
happen
in
a
small
town.
D
You
know,
I
think
it's
a
great
question
and
when
you
think
about
a
small
town,
what
is
a
small
town
versus
the
small
town
feel,
and
I
think
that's
what
our
citizens
are
looking
for
is
that
small
town
field
we
have
to
have
growth.
We
can't
stay
stagnant
as
a
city,
but
we
have
to
have
controllable
growth,
smart
growth
in
the
area,
then
we
can
do
that
around
keeping
that
small
town
feel
throughout
the
area.
D
B
Mr
saraki,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
want
to
echo
what
jared
just
said.
The
people
of
this
city
love
the
small
town,
feel
we
need
smart
growth,
we
need
to
grow,
we
need
to
build
a
downtown.
We
need
to
build
a
theater.
We
need
to
build
those
townhomes
next
to
the
to
the
library,
but
we
need
to
be
thoughtful
growth,
the
people
of
the
city
they
invested
by
buying
homes.
They
invested
their
money
to
buy
homes,
to
keep
that
feel.
We
don't
need
any
more
cars
on
transit
road.
B
A
A
I
think
also
our
volunteerism
is
part
of
what
really
makes
us
have
that
small
town
feel
you
know
we're
one
of
the
only
cities
in
pinellas
county,
where
almost
every
spot
on
all
of
our
volunteer
boards
is
full.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
get
involved
in
this
city
and
because
of
that,
we
all
get
to
know
each
other
and
that's
what
has
that
small
town
feel
happening.
It's
the
same
with
our
chamber
of
commerce,
all
the
events
they
put
on.
I
think
that's
a
really
important
factor
and
I'm
sorry.
A
We
do
need
some
development,
because
we
have
kids
who
are
growing
up
who
have
nowhere
to
move,
and
we
have
to
have
some
housing
that
is
maybe
smaller,
like
an
apartment
that
they
can
still
stay
here
and
keep
that
tradition
on.
E
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
I
I
look
at
our
business
community
and
I
try
to
think
what
would
I
want
as
a
business
owner
here
in
the
city
of
oldsmar,
I've
heard
businesses
tell
me
that
they
want
more
density
in
the
area,
and
I
asked
them.
You
know
how
much
more
density
do
we
need
to
support
your
business
okay.
So
when
we
look
at
what
the
businesses
are
looking
for,
I
think
less
traffic
is
one
to
make
it
more
enjoyable
to
come
to
this
area,
but
also
less
density.
D
I
don't
think
we
need
the
density
in
the
area.
We've
told
we've
spoken
many
times
tonight
about
how
65
000
people
come
to
our
city,
but
we're
not
doing
anything
to
keep
those
citizens
here
at
night,
we're
not
doing
anything
to
make
sure
they
stay
in
the
area
that
they
come
here
to
work,
and
they
also
come
here
to
play.
So
I'd
like
to
see
more
nightlife
activities
more
restaurants
in
the
area
to
keep
the
local
workers
here
around.
So
we
can
support
those
businesses
in
the
evening.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
mentioned
it
a
few
questions
ago.
The
biggest
the
biggest
fear
is
the
covid.
That's
changed
the
way
some
of
our
corporations
here
in
oldsmar
are
working.
A
lot
of
people
are
working
from
home
now,
instead
of
going
into
the
corporate
america
units
of
that
that
where
the
employees
used
to
work,
the
other
thing
is
when
we
go
into
some
of
the
restaurants
in
oldsmar
they're
short-handed,
there's
not
enough
employees
to
work
somewhere
in
some
of
the
restaurants.
B
The
hotels
in
the
city
of
oldsmere
are
not
100
full,
it's
changed
our
environment.
I
really
truly
believe
that
covid
has
changed
the
way
we
work
and
live
in
our
city,
and
we
need
to
keep
focusing
on
ways
to
improve
that.
So
we
get
back
on
track
to
get
the
businesses
thriving
in
oldsmar.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Okay,.
A
One
problem
that
our
employers
are
facing
right
now
are
qualified
staff
recruitment
and
I
hear
from
our
employers
all
the
time
that
that's
a
challenge,
especially
in
our
manufacturing
base,
which
is
extremely
important
to
us.
We
have
the
second
largest
manufacturing
base
out
of
all
the
cities
in
pinellas
county
only
behind
largo
we've
manufactured.
We
have
over
100
manufacturers.
Here,
that's
why
we
have
25
000
jobs
in
the
city:
it's
not
just
the
hospitality
and
the
restaurants,
they
don't
have
the
luxury
of
remote
access.
A
They
have
to
go
there
because
they're
making
things,
and
so
that's
the
biggest
challenge.
I
have
and
we've
tried
working
and
continue
to
work
with
some
of
the
colleges
to
help
create
programs
to
give
some
fundamental
training
that
could
be
a
feeder
into
them.
The
other
thing
is
that
I
hear
from
manufacturers
all
the
time
and
other
employers
is
they
have
nowhere
to
house.
A
C
You
so
this
is
a
great
question
and
I
deal
with
this
almost
on
a
daily
basis,
with
the
work
that
I
do
with
the
chamber
tomorrow,
we're
meeting
with
one
of
our
manufacturers
brycott
and
we're
also
meeting
with
a
judo
studio
to
listen
to
their
needs
and
what
they
do.
It's
something
we
do
once
a
month
and
I
will
say
that
skilled
workforce
is
the
big
shortage,
whether
it's
mostly
in
manufacturing,
and
they
don't
need
you
to
have
great
skills.
C
They
want
you
to
do
things
like
show
up
be
on
time.
You
know
not
be
on
your
phone,
the
simple
things:
they'll
train,
you,
everything,
they'll,
train
everything
else.
We've
made
a
relationship
with
st
pete
college
at
or
I'm
sorry
pinellas
technical
college
to
try
and
fill
those
needs
of
our
manufacturers.
C
The
other
thing
that
they
need
is-
and
we
hear
it
all
the
time
we
want
workforce
housing.
We
have
about
50
percent
of
our
housing,
that
is
obtainable
housing,
but
they're
looking
for
workforce
housing
places
where
their
employees
as
we
say,
can
live,
work
and
play
they'll
live
here
and
they'll
visit
our
shops
that
we
have
in
our
downtown.
Thank
you.
E
E
Next
question:
starting
with
mr
saraki,
what
part
of
town
do
you
live
in
and
why
do
you
like
living
in
that
part
of
town
and
further?
Where
are
your
favorite
places
to
spend
time
in
oldsmar.
B
My
wife
and
I
moved
to
oldsmar
95.
We
built
our
house
in
east
lake
oaks
in
1997..
I
love
our
neighborhood.
I
love
the
people
in
our
neighborhood,
I'm
friends
with
most
of
the
people
from
living
there
for
23
years,
it's
great
living
in
in
east
lake
oaks,
and
I
love
all
the
people
that
are
in
the
city
of
oldsmar.
B
My
favorite
places
to
go
are
flame
stone,
craft
street,
but
I
gotta
be
honest.
My
most
favorite
restaurant
in
the
city
of
oldsmar
is
breakfast
at
eaves.
Eve's
restaurant
has
been
in
oldsmar,
I
think
for
35
years
eve
is
still
there
working.
That
is
one
of
the
greatest
restaurants
in
the
old
in
the
city
of
oldsmar,
but
my
favorite
thing
is
playing
hockey
at
the
hockey
rink
at
the
bolts
rank
mondays
and
thursdays
and
riding
my
bike
around
the
city
of
oldsmar
trails.
That's
my
favorite
thing
to
do
with
the
city
of
oldsmar.
A
See
we'll
take
the
softball
question,
that's
kind
of
nice,
you
know
my
wife
and
I
we
we
love
the
trails.
She
goes
walking
every
day.
I
I
probably
I'll,
go
out
and
exercise,
but
I'm
probably
more
golf
carting
every
day.
You
know
it's
probably
not
as
good
for
you,
but
it's
a
lot
more
fun
and
I
go
further,
but
I
love
cruising
around.
We
live
in
old
oldsmar
over
here
by
ariel's
park
and
have
for
a
while,
and
you
know
I'll
tell
you
during
covet
the
shutdown.
A
I
think
everybody
can
appreciate
this,
and
maybe
this
goes
back
to
the
small
town
feel.
I
don't
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
was
really
interesting
and
we
had
passed
the
ordinance
where
you
could
have
golf
carts
all
over
town
but
driving
around
and
just
seeing
your
neighbors
standing
out
in
their
driveway.
You
know
you
could
still
talk.
You
didn't
you
didn't
get
too
close,
but
you
still
had
that
interaction
and
you
got
that
feeling
like
we're
all
into
it.
A
C
C
I
almost
purchased
a
home
down
here
on
park
when
I
was
going
through
a
divorce
and
it
was
actually
a
former
mayor's
house.
So
I
love
the
old
feel
I
got
to
be
honest
if
I
was
30
years
old
and
we
were
building
the
development
next
door,
it's
calling
my
name
I'd
like
to
live
there
and
and
and
play
there
and
work
there.
I
love
going
to
a
lot
of
the
places.
That's
what's
unique
about
us.
C
C
We
have
some
new
great
restaurants
that
I
hope
will
become
our
favorites
chuck
lager
that,
hopefully
we
will
come
in
here-
something
that's
replacing
a
chain
restaurant
at
apple
or
not
at
applebee's,
but
at
ruby
tuesday,
something
that's
replacing
the
taco
bell.
So
we
have
more
on
the
way.
D
So
I
grew
up
down
the
road
here
in
town
and
country
and
moved
away
to
jacksonville
back
in
2001,
and
when
I
moved
away
it
was
old.
Tomorrow's,
the
flea
market,
that's
was
in
my
head
when
we
had
the
opportunity
to
move
back.
My
aunt
and
uncle
called
us
and
said:
hey
we've
got
a
house
for
rent
come
live
in
oldsmar
like
great.
We
looked
up
the
schools,
great
schools,
great
a-rated
schools.
We
love
moving
here
in
2016.
I
was
actually
at
a
conference
in
nashville.
D
When
my
wife
called
me
and
said:
hey
that
house
is
available.
You
signed
the
contract
today,
I'm
like
sight
unseen.
She
goes
sight
unseen,
so
signed
the
contract.
We
live
about
a
block
and
a
half
way
down
the
road
here
from
city
hall.
You
know
what
I
love
like
mayor
said.
Oh
I
love
running
around
in
my
golf
cart.
I
love
the
area
love
going
to
all
the
restaurants,
all
the
shops
in
the
area.
D
E
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
we
have
time
for
one
more
quick
question
and
I'll
start
with
mr
seidel
talk
about
the
effectiveness
of
the
council
as
far
as
a
collegial
body,
focusing
on
getting
things
done
instead
of
on
differences.
A
That
that's
a
great
topic,
because,
frankly
it's
one
that
I
think
I
think
it's
an
area
that
makes
holes
more
different.
You
know
you
go
to
some
cities.
If
you've
watched
their
meetings,
you'll
see
that
you
know
they.
Sometimes
it's
one
thing
if
you
don't
agree,
but
it's
another
thing
if
you're
just
battling
it
out
for
the
point
of
battling
it
out,
we
don't
do
that
in
this
city
and
that's
not
our
culture.
A
You
come
to
a
council
meeting.
We
may
not
all
agree,
but
we
treat
each
other
with
respect
and
what
that
does
is
it
builds.
I
think
it
builds
trust.
So
when
somebody's
talking
about
something
that,
maybe
you
don't
agree
with,
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
be
quiet
and
really
listen,
because
maybe
there's
something
you
missed
and
we
have
a
council
right
now
that
I
think
is
phenomenal.
A
They
work
hard,
they
show
up
they're
prepared
and
it
shows-
and
I
think
they
work
very
well
together
and
that's
the
reason
we
get
things
done
and
I
think
that
that's
a
very
important
factor
in
oldsmar's
culture.
C
Love
this
question:
I
remember
talking
to
our
city
attorney
mr
tom
trask,
who
represented
many
municipalities
in
the
city
of
or
in
pinellas
county,
and
you
know,
maybe
we
have
blinders
on
maybe
we're
naive,
but
he
said
you
guys
have
a
unique
city
and,
as
mayor
seidel
said,
I
think
we
get
along
great.
We
may
be
a
3-2
vote
or
a
4-1
vote,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
can
still
shake
hands.
There's
no
anger
expressed
towards
each
other,
and
I
think
we
I've
always
said
this.
C
Unlike
other
municipalities,
I
think
for
the
most
part
at
least
as
long
as
I've
been
involved
with
it.
Our
city
council,
for
the
most
part,
is
in
the
same
boat
rowing
in
the
same
direction,
and
I
don't
know
that
that
can
be
said
for
other
cities.
While
I
think
we
might
have
a
little
bit
of
a
disagreement
between
about
density
next
door,
I
think
we
all
still
agree
and
those
in
opposition
and
knows
for
it
that
we
want
a
downtown.
C
D
You
know
I
I
echo
that
I
was
just
imagining
we're,
probably
all
going
to
be
at
the
tap
house
in
about
20
minutes
together.
Maybe
not
these
two
with
sunshine
law,
but
that's
a
whole
other
question
itself,
but
it
that
is
the
uniqueness
right.
We
can
all
agree
to
disagree.
We
can,
but
we
also
need
different
viewpoints.
D
We
need
people
with
challenging
discussions
and
challenging
ideas
and
new
and
fresh
ideas
that
can
come
to
the
council
and
and
not
just
grow
downstream,
and
maybe
go
a
little
bit
off
course
and
say:
maybe
this
is
better
for
the
city,
so
I
like
how
we
can
all
just
get
along.
I
like
how
we
all
can
agree
to
disagree
and
I
like
how,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
all
going
to
be
friends
right.
This
is
not
about
me
or
doug,
or
eric
or
or
danny
there.
B
E
B
Chairman,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
just
say:
seven
years
ago,
doug
beavis
was
the
mayor.
I
had
no
idea
what
I
was
doing
up
here
on
this
diocese
and
he
helped
me
he
was
actually
a
mentor
for
me.
He
helped
me
understand
about
our
city
government
and
he
helped
me
to
get
just
just
to
get
started,
but
the
second
best
thing
was
jerry.
Beverland
was
up
here,
he's
a
historian.
He
knows
everything
about
this
city.
I
learned
so
much
from
him
I
and
and
the
current
city
council.
I
feel
we
are
an
incredible
team.
B
E
D
D
D
I
also
want
to
remind
everybody
that
election
day
is
march
15th,
it's
interesting,
because
this
is
right
in
the
middle
of
spring
break
as
a
young
family.
If
you
plan
on
being
out
of
town
over
spring
break,
make
sure
you
get
your
mail
ballot
in
make
sure
you
request
your
mail
ballot
from
the
supervisor
elections
other
than
that
I
really
enjoyed
the
evening
this
evening.
Thank
you
to
the
league
of
women.
Thank
you
to
the
chamber
of
commerce,
and
I
look
forward
to
your
support.
C
That's
right,
I
forgot
reverse
reverse
yeah,
that's
right,
rowing
in
the
right
direction!
That's
right
exactly
well!
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
league
of
women
voters
about
three
or
four
hours
ago.
We
weren't
sure
that
this
was
going
to
happen,
but
thank
you
and
thank
you
bill
for
coming
out.
Why
am
I
running
for
seat
two?
C
I
believe
in
our
city
and
our
staff,
and
I
feel
we're
on
the
verge
of
finally
having
a
downtown,
and
I
felt
I
would
not
be
doing
the
25
years
of
past
attempts,
the
just
it
deserves
by
sitting
on
the
sidelines.
They
always
say
leave
things
better
than
they
were
when
you
got
here.
Well,
I'm
not
ready
to
leave
and
because
I
don't
think
oldsmar
is
done
being
better.
C
I
feel
that
my
30
years
of
experience
in
the
engineering
field,
along
with
my
10
plus
years
of
experience
working
in
government
and
environment,
provided
me
the
knowledge
and
level
thinking
our
residents
and
community,
deserve
and
have
trusted
in
me
in
the
past,
as
a
council
member
and
mayor
to
make
the
best
decisions
that
I
can
for
our
community
and
can
trust
me
in
the
future.
Thank
you
again
to
the
two
previous
mayors,
ronnicker
and
beaverland
mayor
bujowski
from
dunedin,
commissioner
eggers
senator
ed
hooper
and,
of
course,
our
firefighters.
C
Thank
you
for
believing
in
me,
beavis
is
back.com.
E
Thank
you
and,
mr
then
in
reverse
order.
The
mayor
candidates,
mr
seidel.
A
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
participated
in
tonight,
including
all
the
folks
up
here
and
my
opponent.
We've
all
worked
hard
together
to
make
this
city
great.
Earlier
I
told
you
why
I'm
running
and
what
I'd
like
to
do
now,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
why
I
believe
you
should
vote
for
me.
I
believe
it
comes
down
to
experience
I'm
proud
of
all
the
endorsements
that
I've
received
from
officials,
the
sheriff
our
congressmen
and
so
on,
but
I'm
especially
proud
of
the
support
that
I've
received
from
our
past
three
mayors
of
oldsmar.
Why?
A
Because
they
know
what
it
takes
to
do.
This
job
and
they've
watched
me
deal
with
the
events
that
we
talked
about
earlier:
the
discovery
of
defects
in
the
bmx
track,
the
reported
cyber
attack
and
having
to
deal
with
secret
service
in
the
fbi
and
international
news
and,
of
course,
covet
the
shutdown
how
we
dealt
with
that
communicating
with
our
businesses.
Communicating
with
our
cities.
A
B
Of
all
bill,
mr
chair,
thank
you
for
all.
You
do,
susan.
You
did
a
wonderful
job
with
those
time
cards
making
sure
we
stop
on
time.
It's
time
we
have
a
mayor
who
will
listen
to
the
people
of
oldsmar.
I
am
ready,
willing
qualified
to
serve
you.
I
have
an
open
door
policy
for
all
residents
and
I
encourage
your
participation
and
voice.
This
is
our
city,
not
special
interest.
B
As
your
mayor,
I
will
continue
to
support
our
residents,
businesses,
veterans,
seniors
and
first
responders
and
ensure
we
have
smart,
smart
growth,
I'm
honored
to
be
endorsed
by
the
oldsmar
professional
firefighters
union.
They
trusted
in
me
to
ensure
the
safety
of
oldsmar
residents
during
my
council
run
and
I
am
honored
to
receive
their
endorsement
again.
I
appreciate
all
the
residents
who
have
pledged
their
support
for
me,
I'm
extremely
humbled.
This
massive
outpouring
of
sport
shows
me
that
the
residents
are
against
and
are
under
and
are
are
underplanned
and
over
commercialized
oldsmar.
B
E
E
E
You
must
register
prior
to
february
14th
to
do
that,
go
to
votepinellas.com
and
you
can
go
to
votepinellas.com
to
verify
that
you're
registered
the
league
has,
if
you're
unsure,
if
you're
unsure.
If
your
signature
has
changed,
you
should
fill
out
a
voter
registration
form
to
verify
that
to
avoid
the
problem.
C
And
bill
to
that
point
I
know
a
lot
of
people
did
this
during
the
pandemic
and
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt,
but
it's
another
great
tool
of
votepinellas.com
is
that
if
you
vote
by
mail,
you
can
also
go
there
and
make
sure
that
your
vote
was
actually
received
and
counted,
which
I
think
is
important
for
a
lot
of
people
that
may
not
have
some
faith
in
the
system.
That's.