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Either
way,
I'm
just
trying
to
find
his
number
here.
We.
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Okay,
we'll
go
on
to
our
first
item
approval
of
the
minutes
from
december
1st.
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E
F
Hi
everybody
good
afternoon,
the
fire
pension
board
elected
to
not
have
a
separate
audit
for
this
fiscal
year,
so
it's
included
in
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report
of
the
city
of
oldsmar.
That's
a
pretty
voluminous
document,
so
I've
made
excerpts
or
copies.
If
you
will
of
the
pertinent
pages
that
pertain
to
the
firefighters
pension
plan,
there
were
four
reports:
our
firm
issued
for
the
city.
Our
independent
auditor's
report
expressed
an
unmodified
opinion
on
the
financial
statements,
a
report
on
internal
control
and
compliance
noted,
no
material
weaknesses,
significant
deficiencies
or
instances
of
non-compliance.
F
Auditor
general's
report
had
no
findings
or
no
prior
findings
to
respond
to,
and
the
auditor
general
report
as
it
pertained
to
compliance
with
investments,
whether
it
be
the
city's
investment
policy
or
the
firefighter
pension
plan
investment
policy.
There
were
no
instances
of
non-compliance
there.
All
the
investments
were
compliant
with
the
approved
investment
policies
of
each
of
the
entities
included
in
your
packets.
F
back
in
10
116.
The
plan
carved
out
a
a
defined
contribution
portion
a
share
plan
for
the
participants
in
the
plan.
At
that
time
it
was
basically
to
utilize
the
excess
chapter
175
contributions.
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F
F
F
Overall,
the
total
additions
increased
about
a
hundred
and
sixty
two
thousand
dollars.
Investment
return
was
up.
F
The
fire
insurance
premium
tax
went
down
a
little
bit
a
couple
thousand
the
employer
utilized
46
000
of
the
advanced
employer
contribution
to
meet
their
obligation
for
the
actuarial,
determined
contribution
for
the
city.
Total
deductions
were
pretty
similar.
There
was
a
increase
in
the
administrative
charges,
but
there
was
a
total
increase
overall
in
the
plan
of
665
000
for
the
year
in
excess
of
additions
over
deductions.
F
If
we
go
to
page
28,
that's
the
statement
in
that
position,
the
total
assets
increased
a
little
over
655
000
as
we
saw
and
the
liabilities.
We
now
have
these
in
19
the
excess
chapter
175
contributions,
but
in
20
with
the
10-119
collective
bargaining
agreement.
Those
then
became
available
to
the
city
and
they're
not
now
reflected
as
advanced
employer
contributions,
which
is
the
balance
of
the
original
128
minus
the
46
that
was
utilized
in
2020,
so
that
82
that's
available.
F
The
city
will
utilize
that
in
this
coming
fiscal
year-
and
it
will
be
eliminated
at
that
time
or
utilized
fully
and
the
amount
due
to
share
plan
at
the
end
of
the
year
was
677
for
the
net
position,
restricted
for
pension
benefits
of
6
million
906
000,
and
actually
that
amount
exceeds
the
pension
obligation
of
the
city.
The
city
actually
has
a
net
pension
asset
around
seven
thousand
dollars.
So
the
plan
is
that
nine
thirty
twenty
was
fully
funded.
F
101
percent
funded,
if
you
will
additional
items
really
within
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report,
are
note.
I,
which
goes
through
all
the
retirement
plans
of
the
city,
but
also
the
firefighters,
retirement
pension
trust
fund,
there's
probably
about
10
pages
there
page
48
through
57
and
then
page
63,
64
and
65
are
what's
called
required.
F
Supplementary
information,
page
63
provides
the
pension
liability,
the
pension
net
position
and
the
net
pension
liability
or
asset,
and,
as
I
said,
there
is
a
net
pension
asset
that
is
the
the
the
plan
assets
available
for
benefits,
exceed
the
liability,
so
you're
100
a
little
over
100
funded
for
9,
30
20
and
that's
not
the
first
time,
there's
been
a
net
asset
in
a
number
of
the
years.
F
and
we're
using
your
plans
using
a
discount
rate
of
seven
percent,
so
you're
very
close
to
what
that
would
be,
and
it's
it's
exceeded-
seven
percent
in
prior
years,
and
that's
a
year-to-year
evaluation
that
that
the
board
goes
through
and
and
you
determine
and
instruct
the
actuary
what
rate
to
use
you
use
a
higher
rate.
You
know
it's
going
to
lower
the
liability.
You
use
a
lower
rate,
it's
going
to
increase
the
liability,
but
it
needs
to
be
reasonable
in
comparison
to
you
know
historical
trend
data.
C
Questions
or
not
as
much
on
the
numbers,
because
I
know
it's
been
going
really
well
did
we
have
discussion
the
last
meeting
on
the
meeting
before
in
regards
to
I
know,
we've
been
doing
every
other
year
with
the
full-blown
one
and
I'm
very
frugal,
as
you
know
at
this
point,
but.
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F
No
requirement
that
you
have
a
separate
report,
it's
just
a
board
decision,
a
lot
of
plans.
You
know
it
basically
depends
on
the
board,
but
there's
no
statutory
requirement
that
you
haven't
done
so.
F
Well,
seminole,
and-
and
that's
only
the
one
I
work
with
here
in
pinellas
county-
I'm
not
like
the
attorney
who's
all
over
the
state,
I'm
a
local
guy.
A
So
in
years
past
it
had
kind
of
been
on
a
legal
foundation.
Yes,.
A
I
think
he
still
would
recommend
that
we
do
the
full
report
every
year,
just
for
dcre
liability.
H
As
part
of
the
city's
cafe,
however,
I
would
you
know,
obviously
it's
not
the
same,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
want
the
board
to
think
that
it
is
the
same
when,
when
the
plan
financial
statements
are
audited,
that
is
different
than
it
being
included
as
part
of
the
city's
camper.
For
several
reasons.
Obviously,
first
and
foremost,
there
will
be
a
materiality
issue
which
would
be
entirely
distinct.
H
But-
and
you
know-
I
guess
most
importantly
from
the
board's
perspective-
is
the
the
auditor
would
provide
an
opinion
letter
specific
to
our
retirement
system,
as
opposed
to
here
which-
and
I
don't-
I
maybe
I
misunderstood
on
this-
but
I
don't
believe
that
that's
the
case.
I
believe
that
the
author
issues,
the
opinion
with
respect
to
the
city,
or
maybe
I
misheard.
F
F
So
I
think
the
the
board's
position
was
in
an
effort
to
maybe
save
some
expenses.
It
wouldn't
have
the
audit
every
year
stand
alone
on
it
every
year.
F
I
would
agree
with
with
that
pedro
you're
correct
that
it's
an
in
relation
to
opinion
as
it
pertains
to
the
firefighter
a
pension
plan.
It's
not
a
standalone
opinion.
H
But,
but
I
think,
but
I
think,
as
we've
discussed
in
the
past
this,
this
does
fulfill.
Obviously
your
your
requirements,
it
does,
I
believe
you
know,
helps
to
help
the
board
achieve
its
fiduciary
responsibilities
and
ensuring
that
the
plan
everything
is
accounted
for
and
properly
vetted.
So
I
I
don't
want
it
to
seem
as
though
this
is
this
is
this
is
insufficient.
H
By
any
stretch,
I
think
I
was
just
trying
I'm
just
trying
to
and
originally.
A
The
discussion
was
centered
around
the
differences
between
you
know,
kind
of
a
standalone
audit
and
as
part
of
being
included
with
the
city's
catholic,
but
but
I
think
for
our
purposes.
You
know
this
is
a
very
thorough
report
and
it's
very
well
presented.
So
I
don't.
I
don't,
have
an
issue
with
it
from
our
perspective
from
the
board's
perspective.
G
We
will,
when
the
time
comes,
we
will
get
an
engagement
letter
for
both
options,
the
standalone
report
and
the
included
included
with
the
city
scaffer
report.
B
H
Maybe
another
option,
I
know
I
think
you
know.
Maybe
the
board
wants
to
kind
of
switch
it
to
you
know
every
third
year
or
something
like
that
which
which
I
think
you
know
or
every
morning
or
trippy
I
mean
obviously
whatever
whatever
option
would
feel
comfortable
to
the
board.
That's
you
know,
that's
certainly
another
option
that
could
be
that
can
be
entertained
in
in
the
interest
of
potentially
you
know
curbing
some
servings
of
expenses,
but
you
know
we
can
always
have.
A
That
discussion,
that's
the
next
meeting
or
whatever
it
is
that
we
can't
when
we
get
the
engagement
letters.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
H
Yeah,
I
don't
think
a
formal
motion
would
be
necessary
again.
This
is
you
know
this.
Is
it's
not
it's
not
an
express
opinion
to
the
board.
I
think
the
board
can
just
accept
it
and
receive
it,
but
I
don't
think
any.
G
B
B
B
G
A
D
I
had
the
I
had
the
rookie
mute
mistake
going
okay,
so
you
had
something
pulled
up,
but
I
can
also
read
it
off
of
mine
here
as
well.
So
the
information
that
you
all
have
would
be
for
december
31st,
your
beginning
balance
for
the
quarter
was
7
million.
665
000
at
just
under
60
000
of
contributions
come
in
had
a
really
good,
really
good
great
quarter,
just
in
the
market
so
off
to
a
hot
start
for
your
fist.
D
A
little
over
829
paid
out
thousand
five
hundred
distributions
about
seventy
one
hundred
and
expenses.
Your
ending
balance
was
eight
million
five
hundred
thirty
three
thousand
eighty
two
dollars
and
ninety
five
cents.
D
If
you
were
to
scroll
down,
probably
12
13
pages
or
so
usually
in
that
report,
you
can
see
the
earnings
for
the
quarter.
So
obviously
again
it
was
just
a
great
start
to
the
to
the
fiscal
year.
You
were
up
10.82
percent
for
the
quarter,
so
really
kind
of
pretty
much
had
a
great
year
in
the
first
quarter,
and
now
we're
just
just
kind
of
starting
to
ride
a
little
roller
coaster,
the
last
few
months,
but
the
your
high
quality
bond
fund
was
actually
down
about
point
four
percent.
D
Your
core
plus,
however,
was
up
three
point.
One
eight,
so
you're
up
about
two
point:
seven
percent
in
your
fixed
income,
so
equities
really
did
kind
of
carry
the
day
and
and
were
responsible
for
the
majority
of
the
returns,
but
I
do
want
to
highlight
on
the
core
plus
so
core
plus
has
50
of
the
fixed
income
in
your
broad
market.
High
quality
fund
has
50
percent
of
the
fixed
income
within
the
core
plus
we
have
two
different
managers
who
each
have
roughly
50
percent
of
the
core
plus
money.
D
We
have
franklin
templeton
and
pioneer.
Our
advisory
committee,
along
with
our
consultant,
has
made
the
decision
to
moving
forward
that
we're
going
to
remove
franklin
templeton
from
the
core
plus
there
were
several
things
at
play.
One
franklin
templeton
has
been
underperforming
recently,
that
was
first
part
and
obviously
a
big
piece
of
the
pie,
but
also
their
strategy
was
meant
to
kind
of
complement,
pioneers,
so
they're
not
the
same
at
all,
they're
supposed
to
kind
of
work,
hand
in
hand
going
forward.
D
D
So
you
you
add
that
all
up
and
our
board
again
working
with
our
consultant
thought
the
best
move
would
be
to
remove
franklin
templeton
from
the
core
plus
fund,
but
then
to
move
all
those
assets
into
pioneer
as
opposed
to
going
out
and
trying
to
find
another
replacement
manager
again
with
pioneer
performing
as
well.
They
had
it's
kind
of
one
of
those.
Why
go
reinvent
the
wheel
when
you
already
have
a
manager
in
place?
D
Who
has
been
doing
well
so
for
the
time
being,
they're
going
to
move,
move
all
the
assets
for
the
core
plus
over
to
pioneer
and
then
we'll
we'll
kind
of
ride
them
and
expect
them
to
continue
that
great
performance
that
transition,
we're
hoping
will
take
place
by
the
end
of
april?
From
your
all
standpoint,
it'll
be
seamless,
you
won't
have
to
do
anything.
D
If
I
didn't
tell
you
about
it,
you
wouldn't
even
know-
and
I
say
that
only
from
a
standpoint-
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
any
bumps
in
the
road
or
any
any
homework
or
extra
activities
that
you'll
have
to
do
on
our
on
your
end.
It'll
all
be
handled
on
our
end
and
again
should
be
seamless
from
your
point
of
view,
but
that
said
I'll
kind
of
stop
for
a
second
any
questions
about
that
change.
D
Okay,
good
yeah,
this
quarter
when
I'm
bringing
pretty
much
all
good
news.
I
I
these
are
easy
quarters.
I
don't
get
near
as
many
questions
as
other
ones,
but
so
if
we
keep
going
down,
you
see
your
equity.
Your
u.s
large
cap
was
up
16.3
percent
and
then
your
small
mid
cap
portfolio
was
20
and
a
half
percent
and
then
international
up
16.3
percent.
So
again,
that's
obviously
where
we
got
all
of
our
the
majority
of
our
returns
for
the
quarter.
D
And
then
kind
of
finishing
that
off
you
do
have
the
core
real
estate,
which
had
a
nice
quarter
at
1.4
percent.
It
just
unfortunately,
has
to
follow
up
the
equity
side,
so
it
doesn't
look
quite
as
robust,
but
a
nice
quarter
for
the
real
estate
as
well
moving
forward
a
couple
other
things
that
were
in
discussion
again
between
our
consultant
and
our
advisory
committee.
D
They
actually
just
met
and
the
one
decision
I
just
talked
about
with
core
plus
that
was
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
they
are
looking
at
some
other
opportunities,
not
necessarily
in
the
next.
You
know
month
or
two,
but
going
forward.
We
are
looking
at
some
other
opportunities
to
decide
whether
or
not
we
want
to
add
any
other
equity
asset
allocations.
D
D
And
just
kind
of
I'm
sure,
you've
heard
me
say
this
many
times
the
way
our
board
looks
at
it
is
anytime
we're
going
to
be
additive
or
look
at
any
additional
opportunities.
It's
always
what
sort
of
risk
would
be
added
added
by
doing
that.
So,
even
if
we
think
we
can
get
some
more
return
by
doing
something,
if
we
have
to
add
risk
to
do
it
more
often
than
not
we're
going
to
make
the
decision
not
to
so
any.
D
I
know
private
equity
is
in
that
conversation,
hedge
funds-
I
don't
they
commodity.
I
think
somebody
said
the
word
once,
but
it
was
brushed
over
a
little
bit.
I
don't
think
anybody's
a
huge
fan
at
this
time
of
commodities.
But
again
we
are
just
just
kind
of
want
to
keep
you
all
aware
that
we
are
looking
at
other
opportunities
to
see
if
there's
anything
out
there.
That
makes
sense.
D
But
kind
of
part
of
what's
at
play
as
it
relates
to
that
is,
is
our
consultant
and
really,
if
you
talk
to
any
probably
pension
consultant
out
there,
you're
gonna
hear
a
lot
of
the
same
story,
which
is
even
though
I'm
sitting
here
and
it's
kind
of
ironic.
We
had
almost
eleven
percent
return
that
quarter.
There
is
a
predicted
slowdown
in
the
market
coming
over
the
next
few
years.
D
Two
two
things
at
play:
one
interest,
rate's
continuing
to
stay
low
means
you're,
probably
not
going
to
see
a
lot
of
great
returns
in
the
fixed
income
and
then
the
equity
market.
Again,
even
though
we
just
continue
to
climb
and
climb
and
climb
at
some
point,
it
just
seems
like
you're,
going
to
hit
a
bit
of
a
wall
and
the
reason
being,
if
nothing
else,
the
price
of
stocks
is
just
very
high
right
now.
D
Is
frozen?
Okay,
so
I'll
keep
going,
and
I
apologize
for
what
you're
having
to
stare
at
there.
If
you
can
just
look
past
that
and
listen
to
words,
so
you
know,
as
I
was
mentioning
the
price
per
earnings
being
a
gauge
for
the
the
cost
of
stocks.
D
The
s
p
500
is
historically
traded
about
10
to
15
times
earnings
as
of
just
a
few
days
ago.
It
was
up
over
40
times
earnings,
and
that
just
seems
like
that's.
You
know
to
most
the
experts,
they
would
say:
that's
just
not
sustainable,
and
so
there
would
be
an
expected-
and
you
just
see
more
muted
returns
over
the
next
few
years
would
and
what
that
would
do
hopefully
was
allow
the
the
earnings
to
catch
catch
up
more
to
the
price
of
the.
D
Stocks
kind
of
what
some
of
the
expectations
are
that
you
know
hopefully
we'll
still
see
positive
returns,
but
just
over
the
short
run,
they
might
be
a
little
more
muted.
As
opposed
to
these.
You
know,
I
think
this
funds
returning
about
8.36
over
the
last
10
years
and
that's
probably
not
the
likely
trend
over
the
next
few
years,
but
in
the
long
run
we
still,
you
know
the
the
seven
plus
percent,
I
think,
is
still
a
positive
outlook
over
the
long
run.
C
D
It
is
a
true
core,
real
estate
manager,
so
they
actually
they
own
the
properties,
but
then
they
also
do
have
a
management
portion.
So
a
lot
of
the
properties
they
owned
are
managed
by
a
company
that
they
hold
as
well.
I
don't
know:
does
that
answer.
C
D
The
types
of
actually
within-
and
I
apologize
because
it's
it's
my
side-
that's
up
here,
apparently
it's
frozen,
because
I
cannot
pull
up
my
report
within
the
within
your
quarterly
investment
report.
D
If
you,
if
you
scroll
down
to
the
to
the
real
estate
section,
there's
actually
a
breakout
of
this
different
sectors
and
the
percentages
that
you
have
in
in
each
of
those
so
you'll
have
you
do
have
a
little
bit
of
retail.
I
don't
don't
quote
me:
10
12
percent,
maybe
a
lot
of
warehouse
or
slash
industrial.
D
There
is
some
multi-family
housing,
so
large
apartment
buildings.
You
have
office
space.
I
do
believe
there
is
a
small
allocation
to
health
care
whole.
You
know
buildings
as
well,
but
within
that
report
there
there
would
be
a
breakdown
of
each
individual
sector,
and
I
apologize
that
my
computer
is
going
haywire
on
me
at
this
moment.
D
There
has
definitely
been
no
discussion
of
cryptocurrency
and
commodities
have
so
far
been
looked
looked
down
upon,
so
I
think
everybody
shares
your
sentiment,
but
I
also
believe
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
you
have
to
at
least
every
so
often
you
have
to
name
all
the
different
groups
and
then
quickly
thumbs
down
a
few
of
them.
A
My
only
just
a
comment-
jeremy,
I
don't
unless
I'm
looking
past
it,
I
don't
see
in
the
report
where
it
shows
that
breakdown
of
the
of
the
real
estate
yeah.
Neither
do
I
in
the.
C
D
I
again,
unfortunately,
I
apologize.
I
can't
give
you
the
specific.
I
think
it's
a
little
over
one
percent,
but
I
do.
D
A
A
C
D
I
do
I
I
did
hear
you.
I
did
hear
that
question
and
I
didn't
realize
that's
what
you
were
looking
for.
I
do
not
know
that
number
myself
I
will.
I
will
do
some
digging
because
I've
never
heard
that
number
talked
about
as
far
as
what
their
management
company
charges
back
through
the
essentially
the
fund,
so
I'll
I'll
see.
I
can't
I
can't
make
any
promises
on
that,
but
I'll
definitely
do
some
inquiry.
C
A
Okay,
next
item
is
our
budget
city.
G
Chair
the
budget
report
is
the
administrative
budget
is
a
statutory
requirement.
We
provide
the
board
with
an
information
report
every
quarter
just
to
let
the
board
know
where
we
stand
with
the
in
comparison
to
the
administrative
budget
that
was
approved,
there
wasn't
a
whole
lot
of
activity
in
the
first
quarter.
We
did
have
a
plan
administration
fees
of
about
forty
six
hundred
dollars,
and
then
we
made
some
payments
to
the
attorney
the
legal
counsel
of
about
twenty
five
hundred
dollars.
The
audit
invoice
that
was
just
approved
is
well
below
the
budget
budgeted
amount.
G
Any
breach
of
fiduciary
liability
or
duty,
we
approved
a
three-year
policy.
The
board
approved
a
three-year
policy
back
in
2018.
We
are
currently
in
the
last
year.
The
renewal
for
this
will
come
up
starting
on
july
1st.
I
wanted
to
put
this
on
the
agenda.
It's
currently
too
early
to
get
a
quote
for
it
and
in
the
next
month,
or
so
we
can
get
some
numbers
in
from
the
league
of
cities.
G
G
A
G
C
G
C
And
then
the
other
question
is
just
to
clarify
and
remember
what
I'm
doing,
but
this
is
covering
us
from
a
our
fiduciary
accountability
portion
of
it
correct.
So
if
we
make
a
million
dollar
error
from
our
fiduciary
standpoint,
that's
what
it's
covering.
A
B
G
C
C
C
A
Okay,
so
we
will
look
into
quotes.
Okay,.
G
C
I'm
gonna
look
at
the
ones
that
I
don't
know
if
we're
eligible
to
use
it
as
a
city,
but
it's
a
specific
fiduciary
system
and
I
have
it's
like
the
fi
fpa,
something
something
and
I'll.
Remember.
G
C
Good
yeah,
I
guess
my
concern
as
far
as
the
levels
go
is
in
no
time
we'll
blink
in
a
couple
years
and
we'll
be
at
that
10.
and
once
we
start
getting
above
that,
I
don't
want
you
here.
A
C
Be
really
rooting
for
the
annual
separate
audit.
A
Any
further
questions,
questions
or
discussions
all
right
next
item.
I'm
sorry
next
item
is
our
trustee
attendance
policy
review,
okay,.
G
Madam
chair,
we
had
this
item
on
the
last
agenda
and
we
distributed
a
copy
for
the
board
members
to
review
it's
a
requirement
for
this
policy
to
be
reviewed
every
two
years.
The
last
time
it
was
changed
was
february,
21st
2017..
G
C
C
G
This
board
is
really
governed
by
chapter
175
before
a
statute.
So
it's
not
really
it's
not
a
city
advisory
board.
It's
an
independent
board.
Okay,
so
it's
not
you
know
it's
we
have.
The
requirement
is
that
we
meet
at
least
quarterly,
which
we
do
and
then
the
board
composition
is
kind
of
outlined
in
chapter
1
75
as
well,
so
anything
that
that
goes
on
the
leisure
services
advisory
board
is,
you
know
not
really
relevant
to
our
board.
B
Is
there
anything
to
identify
something?
That's
a
usable
excuse.
I
mean
I
can
sit
here
and
say:
hey
I'm
tied
up
in
traffic.
You
know,
what's
going
to
be
an
accepta
acceptable
excuse
for
an
should
absence,
be
any
consideration
for
that.
E
E
Right
I
mean
gosh
I
wish
pedro
was
on
the
phone
right
now,
but
yeah
you
could.
That
could
be
addressed
in
here
in
this
resolution
and
maybe
that's
something
that
so,
if
you
wanted
to.
You
could
just
table
this
review
for
the
next
meeting
and
maybe
give
some
more
thought
as
to
what
would
be
acceptable
or
not
acceptable
for
absences.
E
Right
yeah
I
mean
it
is,
but
I
I
think
you
can
also
it's
kind
of
like
like
like
vulgar
or
prof
vulgar
language
or
profanity.
You
just
know
it.
When
you
see
it,
I
think
the
board
would
know
it
if
somebody
was
just
completely
slacking
and
and
not
willing
to
pull
their
load.
C
A
So
would
you
guys
like
to
explore
that
further
talk
about
the
next
meeting.
B
A
G
G
A
B
G
G
The
policy
defines
dereliction
of
duties
as
violation
of
the
attendance
policy,
failing
to
prepare
for
meetings,
violation
of
rules
of
ethics,
failing
to
engage
in
continuing
education
and
a
few
other
items.
This
is
maybe
another
item
that
you
want
to.
Maybe
we
should
table
this
one
for
next
meeting
to
discuss
with
pedro,
if
you
have
any
questions
or
concerns.
B
The
only
thing
I've
had,
I
think,
we've
discussed
this
before
it's
the
education
requirements
was
that
a
yearly
or
semi
annual
requirement.
G
B
E
Right
all
right,
so
there
was
some
discussion
at
the
last
meeting
and
I
just
didn't
put
together
in
time
for
this
meeting
exactly
we
have
three
applications,
I
think,
or
actually
two
or
it
could
be.
I
don't
know,
but
we're
still
looking
at
it.
But
how
would
yes
go
ahead?
Cindy
number
three
did
say
that
she's
interested
she
is
okay,
so
we
have
three
applicants
interested
in
serving
on
the
on
the
board
and
since
this
board
appointed
this
is
really
our
first
time
filling
a
board
appointed
position
in
like
over.
E
A
Position
right
so
yeah,
I
would
definitely
be
interested
in
receiving
the
resume
or
the
application.
Okay
of
them.
I
don't
know
what
do
you
guys
think
about
interviewing
or.
C
My
thought
was,
I
was
gonna
defer
to
you
on
that
I
mean
I'm
a
rotating
and
to
get
kicked
off
at
any
time.
This
one
is
a
usually
a
long-termer
and,
quite
frankly,
this
impacts
you
enormously.
E
So
I
will
email
the
applications
to
the
trustees
and
then
we'll
just
arrange
for
them
to
for
an
interview
and
then
how
do?
How
does
that
process
look?
Do
you
want
to
ask
questions
I
mean:
do
you
want
to
send
them
questions
ahead
of
time
so
that
they
know
do.
A
B
A
E
So
you
want
to
maybe
have
a
limit
of
questions
that
each
trustee
would
like
to
have,
and
then
you
send
them
to
me
and
then
I
just
send
them
to
the
applicants.
Just
maybe
save
some
time.
Or
would
you
like
to
decide
on
some
questions
right
now
kind
of
puts
you
on
the
spot
a
little
bit.
A
Well,
do
you
guys
want
to
think
about
it?
Do
you
I
mean,
do
we
just
want
some
basic
questions?
Do
we
want
to
email
them
to
anne
and
what's.
A
A
E
Basic
stuff,
as
is
on
any
of
the,
what
I
might
do
is
maybe
I'll
ask
them
for
their
resumes,
because
that
is
something
that
pedro
suggested
so
I'll
ask
for
resumes.
They
can
send
to
the
resume
and
the
applications
I'll
send
them
to
you
guys.
Once
you
see
that
I
think
that's
when
questions
will
come
up,
it's
really
hard
to
be
put
on
the
spot
right
now
to
say.
Well
what
are
you
going
to
ask
right?
E
So
maybe
I
could
do
that
and
then
maybe
the
thing
would
be
then
to
just
come
with
one
or
maybe
two
questions
to
ask.
The
interviewers
enter
the
applicants
and
then
we'll
have
the
meet
and
greet
slash
interview
at
the
next
meeting.
E
C
B
Wouldn't
you
do
that
during
the
citizens
forum
section,
do
that
and
then
and
my
biggest
question
when
you
do
do
an
interview,
would
you
want
each
one
personally
or
you
know
in
here
by
themself
instead
of
having
all
three
of
them
being
grouped
in
too?
You
know
that
might.
B
B
B
G
E
A
B
H
It's
not
even
yet
nothing.
You
know
nothing
significant
on
the
local
pension
side
there
is,
there
has
been
a
bill.
That's
been
trialed
before
that.
H
To
close
the
sort
of
retirement
system
defines
benefits
side
of
it,
so
essentially
all
of
the
employees
would
be
automatically
rolled
with
the
defined
contributions
lesson
plan
option,
but
you
know
certainly
it's
still
still
a
little
soon
to
tell
you
know
by
the
next
meeting
in
may
I'll
have
an
idea
as
to
what
what
made
it
through
anything,
you
can
do
full
report,
but.
H
The
e-verify
statue
that
has
been
acted
by
the
florida
legislature
last
session
and
it
became
effective
for
all
engagements
after
january
of
this
year.
Unfortunately,
it
is
something
that
did
that
does
apply
to
us
through
our
attention
time,
because,
just
by
the
time
we
were
unintended.
H
Obviously,
with
any
contracts
going
forward,
we'll
have
specific
language
in
there
acknowledging
the
the
use
of
our
platform.
H
Existing
providers
that
this
is
actually
you
know
with
the
laws
in
the
senate
and
then
also
secondarily
asking
each
of
the
providers,
including
myself
myself,
to
acknowledge
that
that
we're
complying
with
the
statute
currently.
H
And
really
that's
all
I
have
for
my
report.
Let's
let
you
guys
have
any
any
questions
or
comments
or
anything
you
need
for.
A
Me
pedro,
we
did
have
a
question
about
the
education
and
and
the
requirements
was
that
annually,
that
those
are.
H
H
You
know
I
know
the
fpdpa
is
gonna
is
hoping
to
have
this
contract
over
the
summer
in
person
they
are
gonna,
be
having
I'm
actually
recording
live
sessions.
They're
gonna
be
having
they're
trying
to
trust
these.
H
So,
if
anybody's
interested
in
that
the
state
did
cancel
its
form,
the
division
retirement
is
cancelled
in
school.
So
you
know,
for
the
time
being,
the
only
option
would
be
the
scpga,
but
I
think
you
know
again.
If
it's
something
that
is
inconvenient,
you
know
we
can't
make
it.
I.
H
You
know
if
anybody's
interested
you
can,
you
can
maybe
have
some
other
additional
kind
of
online
tutorials
or
sessions
that
you
can
access
through
the
webpage.
Currently,
so
that's
another.
A
C
H
I
mean
I
don't
have
the
best
answer
for
you
just
because
you
know
it
just
happened,
so
the
statue
really
has
the
thousands
in
any
side
decision
from
the
states
and
obviously
you
know.
H
So
you
know
that
would
be
something
that
that
would
and
depending
on
when
they
did
it.
Obviously
that
would
be
something
between
the
audit
term
and
the
city.
From
our
perspective,
it
would
be
any
you
know,
direct
engagement
that
we
have
so
you
know
from
our.
H
You
know,
I
think
we
all
feel
pretty
comfortable
that
it
doesn't.
You
know
it
doesn't
extend.
Let's
say
from
my
perspective
to
the
folks
who
deliver
our
office
supplies
right
over
the
folks
who
deliver
our
coffee
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think
it
would.
You
know
any
kind
of
subcontractor
that
we
have.
Let's
say
I
think
they
would
apply
to
those
individuals
as
well,
but
again
that's
what
we
started
to
find
the
finer
points
that
really,
I
don't
think
have
been
addressed.
H
To
be
honest,
I
think
you
know
just
like
with
any
new
people
legislation
at
the
beginning,
it's
a
little
bit
just
more
trial
trial
by
error.
I
think,
but
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
as
long
as
we
can
show,
you
know,
I
think
if
you
can
show
intentions
of
trying
to
comply-
and
you
know-
maybe
you
missed
something
with
a
third
vendor
or
something
like
that-
I
don't
think
there's
gonna
be
too
many
issues
with
it.
H
So
I
think
you
know
it'll
kind
of
root
itself
out,
even
if,
if
there
is
an
issue
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
you
know
either
side
wants
to
actually
take
advantage
and
get
out
of
the
contract
or
if
they
just
want
to,
maybe
you
know,
fix
the
problem
right
from
our
perspective
from
attention
plans
perspective,
our
contacts
are
generally
terminal
on
30
days
notice
anyway,
so
you
know
just
practically
speaking
again.
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
really
affect
us
operationally,
also
not
to
mention
you
know.
H
Right
there
that
have
a
higher
presence
for
illegal
workers.
Participation
like
the
construction,
labor,
agriculture,
not
necessarily
tension,
we're
you
know
generally.
H
These
are
generally
not
areas
where
you
see
a
lot
of
illegal
workers
to
begin
with
and
they're,
coupled
with
the
fact
that
you
know
we
just
have
a
lot
of
extra
layers
of
administration
right
as
to
who
we
can
hire,
how
we
can
hire
them
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
for
all
of
those
reasons,
I
don't,
I
don't
really
see
it
being
an
issue
for
our
pension
plan,
but
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
questions,
so
I
think
this
is
kind
of
a
way
to
see
to
see
how
far
out
that.
G
G
G
H
A
lot
of
it
is
what
the
board
feels
comfortable
with
you
know.
I
think
there
was
kind
of
a
rule
of
thumb.
You
know
you
would
want.
H
H
H
As
well,
you
know
I,
I
feel
very
comfortable
with
with
kind
of
the
board
being
insulated
to
a
great
degree
because
of
to
the
demographics
of
the
financial
administration.
That's
the
point
in
how
it's
handled
so
but
again
you
know
that
means
and
everybody's
risk.
Tolerance
is
a
little
bit
different,
so
just
like
any
other
form
of
insurance.
H
Again,
there's
no
there's
a
closed
plan.
We're
you
know,
contributions
are
monitored
and
double
checked.
Essentially,
because
you
know
the
city
puts
it
in
the
actual
rejection
each
year,
the
benefits
of
the
same
the
same
process.
You
know
we
go
through
the
city
as
the
actor,
so
you
know
I.
I
would
say
that
unless
the
board
could
see
something
or
feel
that
differently
that
you
know
the
level
that
we
have
is
probably
more
over
there.
What
do
we
have
right
now,
just
a
million.
H
Yeah
I
mean
I,
you
know
unless
the
board,
you
know,
I
think
we
had
this
exercise
before
too
I
mean
we
could
always
look
at
you
know
what
would
it
cost
to
increase
it
to
two
million?
You
know
if
it's
20
30
bucks,
then
maybe
the
board,
you
know
sees
that
a
valuable
and
makes
it
a
couple
hundred
bucks.
You
know
then
there'd
be
more
of
a
decision.
H
I
wouldn't
go
less
than
a
million,
but
I
you
know
I
don't.
I
don't
need.
H
And
cost
out
what
you
know,
some
additional
coverage
would
look
like
and
fear.
You
know
cost
benefit
enough
to
support
it.
You
know
that
would
certainly
it
doesn't
cause
anything
to
do
that
just
a
little
bit
of
time.
Obviously
that
would
be.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
for
for
these
purposes,
but
if
everybody
feels
comfortable
with
where
we're
at
how
we're
doing
it,
you
know
I
I
would
feel
comfortable
approving
what
we
have
currently
and
maybe
looking
next
year.
You
know
at
quoting
or
pricing
out
what
you
know.
H
What
two
really
would
look
like.
What
previously
would
look
like
and
then
the
board
has
you
know
you
can
you
can
have
the
discussion
in
terms
of
what
they're
worth.
H
It
at
the
next
meeting
before
and
make
a
decision
before
before
we're
doing
you
could
do
it
that
way
as
well.
I
thought
it
would
make
it
a
little
bit
more
imminent,
but
you
know
she
wanted
to
do
it
that
way,
and
that
would
have.
A
And
look
at
it:
okay,
thank
you
pedro.
I
think
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
move
forward
looking
for
some
quotes,
okay,
sure.
So
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
discussing
my
term
expiration.
A
Okay,
anything
else
to
discuss
questions.
C
No,
I
meant
for
the
are
you
abandoning
us.