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From YouTube: Oldsmar Living History Discussion 5
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November 20, 1998
Jerry Beverland interviews J.W. Campbell
A
Good
morning
my
name
is
jerry:
beverland,
I'm
the
mayor
of
osmore,
and
this
is
november,
the
20th
1998,
and
what
we're
doing
this
morning
is
continuing
our
series
of
history,
lessons
on
the
city
of
osmore,
and
we
welcome
you
to
this.
We
have
a
very
special
guest
this
morning.
His
name
is
j.w
campbell.
He
was
born
in
safety
harbor
in
1923,
and
his
father
was
born
in
safety
harbor
in
1898.
A
Now
you
can't
get
any
more.
Southern
safety
harbor
owes
more
cracker
than
that,
and
we
want
to
welcome
you
this
morning,
jw
to
this
furthering
continuation
of
the
city
of
osmar
in
the
surrounding
areas.
Before
we
start
with
some
questions
to
you,
I'd
like
to
bring
the
folks
up
just
a
little
bit
on
what
we've
done
before
this
is
about
our
fifth
series
of
this,
and
we
want
to
thank
tci
for
helping
us
do.
This,
osmar
was
founded
by
ransomy
olds
in
1916.
A
he
bought
54
000
square
miles,
which
included
north
west
hillsborough
northeast
pinellas,
part
of
safety,
harbor
and
part
of
clearwater.
He
paid
a
total
of
450
000
dollars
for
all
this
land.
He
had
the
ambition
and
the
desire
to
build
a
large
community
here
that
would
service
the
people
from
detroit
as
their
winter
home.
A
He
also
had
ambitions
of
making
those
more
a
large
agriculture
area
and
his
ambitions
were
kind
of
thwarted
and
because
of
the
the
osmo
are
the
florida
land
bust.
A
building
stopped
in
in
the
20s,
the
1921
hurricane
destroyed
a
lot
of
osmar.
The
stock
market
crashed
in
1929.
Finally,
just
took
over
out
of
the
picture.
A
What
our
what
the
reos
did
is
that
at
the
time
he
had
tampa
downs,
as
we
know,
tampa
downs
we'll
get
into
that
just
a
little
more
in
a
minute.
Tampa
downs
was
not
quite
finished
and
he
traded
that
for
the
fort
harrison
hotel
in
clearwater
and
he
traded
the
rest
of
the
land
that
he
owned
in
osmar
for
a
hotel
in
kansas
city
kansas
and
some
cash.
A
A
He
knows
the
area
as
well
or
better
than
I
do,
or
the
people
that
have
moved
here
in
here
later
in
their
lives.
Jw
welcome
to
this
series
of
histories
of
osmar.
Thank
you
jerry.
Let's
start
with
you
mentioned
to
me
one
time
about
booth
point
at
the
mobley
berry,
mobley
bay
area,
and
I
was
kind
of
surprised.
I
know
that
mcmullen
booths
were
very
prominent
here,
but
I
had
never
heard
of
booth
point.
B
A
B
B
What
we
always
call
the
boots,
it's
the
remaining
of
the
limb
after
they've,
been
cut
off
and
work
our
way
down
to
the
heart,
and
if
you
get
too
low
in
the
heart,
the
contents
was
bitter,
but
we
would
take
and
boil
that
in
a
seasoning
with
white
bacon-
and
it
was,
it
was
better
than
the
cabbage
that
we
behind
the
grocery
store
today.
Well
that.
A
A
B
A
B
Right
right
right!
Well,
on
that
same
area,
we
had
the
old
hotel
skeleton
down
close
to
the
pier
that
was
started
during
the
boom
and
then,
as
you
say,
in
the
land,
bust
construction
halted,
and
it
just
remained
there
for
years,
just
the
framework
and
the
concrete
work
and
later
years
I
one
of
the
prominent
residents
lester.
I
believe
it
was
joe,
the
bud
lister,
okay,.
A
It
wasn't
demolished,
actually
bud,
sold
it
to
an
individual
and
that
individual
brought
in
a
yacht
and
got
it
stuck
out
into
tampa
bay.
It
got
grounded
out
there
and
then
it
was
resold
again
to
roger
kumar.
Oh
now,
roger
kumar
has
made
it
into
his
house.
Oh,
the
whole
area
has
been
remodeled
and
it's
a
very
beautiful
building.
Now.
B
A
About
it,
well
that
pavilion
in
the
beginning
was
actually
a
casino
and
during
prohibition,
the
people
from
saint
petersburg
and
those
from
tampa
that
couldn't
get
their
liquor
would
come
to
the
city
of
osmore
and
they
would
get
it
there
at
the
pavilion,
oh
and
then
it
or
the
casino.
Then
it
was
later
turned
into
pavilion.
As
you
said,
and
then
in
the
19
early
1950s,
it
was
torn
down.
It
was.
B
B
I
had
a
lot
of
friends
from
old
mar
that
come
to
saint
harbor
junior
high.
Seventh.
Eighth
and
ninth
grade
well
there
again
when
they
finished
their
junior
high
school,
they
had
to
be
bus
to
clearwater
to
finish
out
their
senior
high
school
period,
so
the
school
two
students
they
had
to
keep
changing
schools
every
step
that
they
made
in
their
education.
B
A
B
A
They
go
to
the
countryside.
Now
yeah,
there's
a
lot
of
new
schools.
I
want
to
go
back
to
possum
bayou
in
possum
creek,
so
people
will
realize
where
this
is.
When
you're,
when
you're
going
from
saint
on
st
petersburg
drive
into
dunedin
in
osmore
there
at
the
at
the
marina
that
little
bridge
they
go
over.
That's
possum
creek,
that's
possum
branch
across
some
branch
yeah
now
just
before,
as
they
start
going
over
the
the
new
long
bridge
to
the
right.
That's
possum,
bayou
right.
B
B
There
was
two
creeks:
they
called
it
double
bridges
before
the
bridge
was
built,
they
route
to
safe,
harbor,
not
eden.
They
had
to
come
on
down
what
is
now
tampa
road
to
about
spare
iran
place,
and
then
there
was
a
graded
road
that
went
south
and
little
wooden
bridges
crossed
these
two
creeks.
That's
really
they
called
it
double
bridges
and
they
come
over
to
580
about
the
fruit
stand.
That's
out
there
that
used
to
be
operated
by
humphreys
called
the
tangerine
shop
right.
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
All
right
after
we
leave
the
school.
The
next
point
that
always
I
remembered
was
the
ruix
family
name.
Ruigs
had
a
grocery
store
on
the
north
side,
it
was
a
two-story
building
and
that
was
only
grocery
store.
I
knew
of
there
could
have
been
more,
but
one
of
the
ruik
boys
otto
was
one
of
the
first
casualties
in
world
war
ii.
B
He
was
the
first
one
in
our
area
to
get
killed
in
action
and
then
we'll
come
on
down
to
where
saint
petersburg
drive
meets
the
tampa
road.
In
the
apex
there
was
a
service
station
operated
by
zimmerman
it
operated
for
years
and
then
we'll
come
on
down
to
the
county
line
at
racetrack
road.
On
tampa
road.
B
B
B
B
A
Is
before
you
get
there,
there's
another
there's
another
historical
area
out
by
tampa
downs
that
we
have
talked
about
coming
up
here.
Oh
yeah,
we
had
a.
We
had
our
infamous
oil
well
right
that
never
had
oil
in
it
at
night
until
somebody
put
some
oil
into
it
for
the
investors
for
the
next
morning,
so
they
could
see
that
the
oil
was
there.
B
B
B
Every
mile
gave
you
a
mile
marker
all
the
way
from
holes
bar
to
armenia
and
tampa
and
in
between
these,
they
lined
it
with
oak
trees
and
oleanders,
and
my
dad
said
that
those
oak
trees,
always
they
killed
more
people
than
the
war,
did
because
you
only
had
about
a
24
foot
highway
and
the
old
tires
you
had
to
patch
you
better,
not
go
from
safety,
harbor
to
temple
without
a
tire
pump,
no
spare
tire
and
some
patching,
but
also
at
the
entrance
there
at
old
mart.
Had
this
archway
across
the
highway.
B
A
B
A
Things
have
a
way
of
disappearing.
Well
now
you
spoke
of
the
of
the
monuments.
The
monument
at
the
other
end
of
memorial,
highway
by
kennedy
is
still
there,
the
one
in
osmar,
we
don't
know
whatever
happened
to
the
monument,
but
the
base
of
the
monument
was
there
forever
up
up
until
that
their
sixth
landing
tampa
road
now.
Well,
we
saved
the
base
of
that
monument.
We
have
that
we
pulled
it
up
and
took
it
over
to
the
sewer
plant.
Was
there
any
inscriptions
on
that?
A
B
A
B
He
his
main
crop
was
sugar
beets.
Why
sugar
beets?
I
don't
know,
but
I
had
a
great
uncle
cece
moore.
There
was
a
field
foreman
for
mr
olds
and
he
was
a
avid
beach
beat
grower.
He
could
raise
beets
even
after
he
moved
on
his
home
gardens
he
raised
beets
and
where
he
shipped
them.
I
don't
know
I
never
heard,
but
he
was
quite
a
farmer
there
in
the
beach.
I
don't
know
what
else.
A
Let
me
for
for
a
lot
of
the
young
people,
or
even
some
of
the
elderly
people.
They
don't
know
what
sugar
beets
are.
We
I'm
originally
from
idaho
and,
of
course,
idaho,
is
famous
for
their
potatoes
right,
but
they
also
grew
as
much
sugar
beets
as
they
did
potatoes
in
idaho.
So
a
sugar
beet
is
actually
made
into
sugar.
B
B
B
A
Osmore
we
service
safety
harbor,
they
got
mad
at
us
whenever
they
would
go
down
because
they
couldn't
publish
the
safety
harbor
herald.
We
have
articles
about
that.
So
so
so
the
reos
tractor
family,
our
or
the
tractor
factory,
was
on
the
north
side
about
where
the
sign
company
is
now.
Yes.
Now
they
didn't
manufacture,
tractors
there
right
grubbing
tractors
and
the
only
problem
with
the
tractor
was
it
didn't,
have
any
reverse.
B
B
B
B
A
A
B
A
B
A
The
heidelberg-
yes,
that's
for
people
that
this
is
going
to
be
interesting
to
the
people
that
live
at
forest
lakes,
often
tampa
road.
The
entrance
into
forest
lakes,
the
entrance
into
the
winn-dixie
that
road
that
you
go
in
the
heidelberg
set
right
in
the
middle
of
that
and
they
had
to
tear
the
heidelberg
down
to
to
make
the
entrance
to
the
forest
lake
subdivision.
B
No,
I
never,
I
knew
it
was
torn
down
and
what
subdivisions
are
back
in
there.
I
don't
know,
but
it
was
a
little
honky,
tonk
dance
hall
and
a
beer
joint
along
with
the
cafe,
and
they
had
a
lot
of
business
there.
It
was
one
of
the
prominent
places
and
while
we
were
in
this
area
out
back
in
that
forest
back
to
you,
say
forest
lake,
they
did
a
lot
of
timber
work,
logging
and
every
road
that
went
off.
What
is
now
tampa
road,
which
was
only
about
three
dirt
roads.
B
B
They
fenced
up
to
each
side
of
this
roadway
and
then
they
dug
a
hole
trench
across
the
roadway
and
lined
it
with
either
galvanized
pipe
or
cypress.
Logs
that
way,
an
automobile
or
truck
can
cross
it,
but
a
cattle
cow
or
pigs.
They
could
not
walk
across
it
without
falling
in
they
get
their
foot
hung
up.
B
B
B
That's
about
all
I
have
in
that
area,
yeah.
Of
course
I
can
come
back
out
while
on
tamper
road
at
that
area,
across
from,
I
believe,
it's
cox
lumber.
Is
it
out
there
today,
west
of
the
old
rex,
cafe
right,
sperry,
iran,
that
area
between
the
road
and
boxing
creek
was
developed
into
a
gladiola
flower
farm.
A
B
B
B
Yes,
wasn't
that
at
one
time
named
the
green
tree,
yes
for
a
subdivision,
or
something
like
that,
but
right
in
that
same
areas
where
this
road
I
told
you
earlier,
went
across
double
bridges
over
to
sun
grove
across
the
sperry
rand.
It
was
a
graded
road
and
the
bridges
were
built
close
to
the
water,
and
then
they
built
this
outfall
canal
which
destroyed
both
creeks.
B
B
B
It
washed
out
part
of
the
railroad
bed
that
crossed
the
head
of
the
bay
before
you
get
to
580.
and
we
had
a
terrible
train
wreck
there.
The
train
went
through
and
it
was
all
washed
out,
so
it
just
toppled
over.
Oh
really,
I
have
never
heard
this
yeah.
This
was
in
the
30s
and
I
don't
know
whether
there's
any
injuries
or
deaths,
but
I
was
just
a
young
boy,
10
12
years
old,
but
we,
I
remember,
going
out
there
and
looking
at
it,
but
that
hurricane
did
that.
B
A
B
I
never
knew
the
name
of
the
streets,
but
where
city
hall
and
the
bank
is
state
street
state
all
right.
That
was
a.
I
believe
it
was
a
concrete
roadway.
Yes,
it
was
a
very
wide
yes
roadway
that
come
right
down
through
town
and
then
there
was
a
wasn't
there,
a
parkway
light
that
went
from
there
to
the
bay.
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
The
the
water
tower
was
on
bay
view
just
across
railroad
tracks,
just
just
a
little
ways
down
from
the
bank.
Building
holloway's
funeral
home
sits
there
now,
no,
but
that's
where
the
water
tower
was.
That
was
replaced
with
a
with
a
metal
water
tower,
which
was
which
I
have
videos
of
when
they
tore
it
down
back
in
the
late
late
50s.
B
B
B
B
I
don't
know
where,
during
this
hurricane
and
when
they
come
back,
their
home
was
destroyed
and
for
weeks
they
went
along
the
shores
of
moccasin,
creek
and
possum
bio
gathering
up
her
canned
goods
that
she
had
jarred
vegetables,
fruits,
berries
and
what
they
did
later.
I
don't
know
now
these
stories
come
from
my
mother,
because
this
was
her
uncle
and
my
great
uncle,
but
back
in
those
days
you
could
go
out
in
those
wooded
areas
toward
brooker,
creek
and
gather
all
kinds
of
huckleberries
and
blueberries
blackberries,
and
they
utilized
all
that
stuff.
A
Osmar
holds
a
lot
of
stories
and
there's
people
like
you
that
keep
our
history
alive,
and
we
appreciate
that.
I
do
know
now
that
the
two
redheads
probably
brought
a
lot
of
young
men
into
the
city
of
ozma
back
in
those
days.
Yes,
anyway,
we
thank
you
for
your
sharing
this
knowledge
with
us
and
we
I
I
I
know
that
people
like
you,
help
preserve
the
knowledge
and
the
history
of
safety,
harbor
and
the
city
of
ozmar,
and
this
is
what
this
interview
is
all
about
and
jw
campbell.
Thank
you.