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From YouTube: Oldsmar Living History Discussion 2
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December 4, 1991
Jerry Beverland interviews:
Al Boyd
Judy Bishop Brown
A
I
want
to
welcome
all
of
our
viewers
that
I
hope
view
this
tape
tomorrow.
Next
week,
next
year,
25
years
in
the
next
100
years,
I
have
just
asked
what
the
date
is,
and
I
forgot
all
what
it
was,
but
I'm
going
to
tell
you
this.
This
is
december,
the
5th
fourth,
fourth
1991
semi
mistakes
I
make
and
what
we
have
on
for
this
afternoon-
we're
taping
this
in
the
council,
chambers
and
the
city
of
oldsmar.
A
We
are
going
to
tape
for
our
ancestors
and
for
our
kids
and
our
kids,
kids,
the
living
history
of
the
city
of
osmar-
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
here
that
is
going
to
participate
this
afternoon
in
this,
because
whatever
you
contribute
to
this
tape
will
be
remembered
and
listened
to
for
a
long
time,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
before
I
say
anything
about
osmar
in
my
opening
remarks.
I
want
to
introduce
everyone
that
is
around
this
table.
A
I'm
going
to
start
over
at
this
far
corner,
and
when
I
introduce
you,
I
want
you
to
tell
us
what
a
social,
what
your
first
association
is
or
was
with
the
city
of
oregon,
be
it
a
relationship
or
be
it
a
date.
Okay
and
the
first
fellow
I
want
to
introduce,
is
at
the
far
corner
over.
There
is
our
boyd.
A
B
You,
I
am
al
boyd,
as
he
said,
I
am
not
a
resident
of
oldsmore.
I
have
never
been,
but
I'm
vastly
interested
in
the
town
of
oldsmar
and
at
the
present
time
my
grandson
is
writing
a
book
on
northeast
pinellas
county
and
that
will
be
published
very
soon.
We
have
now
51
000
words
ready
for
the
publisher
and
every
statement
in
the
book
will
be
verifiable
in
written
information
for
posterity.
B
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
of
coming
here.
I
am
a
neighbor,
not
a
resident
of
oldsmar,
although
at
one
time
I
owned
a
great
deal
of
property
in
oldsmar,
practically
everything
north
of
the
tampa
road.
That
was
my
interest
in
it
and
I
don't
know
of
any
better
place
to
live
than
the
town
of
oldsmar,
but
I
cannot
say
that
I'm
a
resident.
Thank
you!
That's
okay!.
A
And
our
next
guest-
and
you
know
you
don't-
have
to
stand
up
here-
you
don't
have
to
no
you're,
not
stabbing
people,
you
don't
want
to
just
go
ahead
and
just.
C
And
I
came
to
oldsmar
when
I
was
14
from
rockford
illinois
and
I
hate
to
say
it.
But
when
I
came
here,
I
thought
where
in
the
world
have
we
gotten
to
it,
looked
like
such
a
small
little
place,
and
I
I
didn't
like
to
drink
the
water
there
and
I
was
very
unhappy
for
a
day
or
two.
Then
I
started
meeting
people
and
went
down
to
the
bed
and
everyone
was
friendly
and
it
was
the
nicest
crowd
and
we
all
stuck
together.
C
Of
course,
we
kind
of
had
to
write
them,
but
we
really
liked
it,
and
I
guess
that's
about
all.
I
can
say
about
me
right
now
and
I
finally
moved
to
tampa.
I
met
my
husband
here.
He
came
out
from
tampa
to
work
in
the
bank,
while
mr
trash
was
on
his
vacation
and
I
went
and
used
a
ten
dollar
bill
to
see
what
he
looked
like
and
that
started
it.
D
Beatrice
canaday
we
came
to
osmore
when
I
was
about
five
years
old
and
my
first
recollection
of
coming
into
osmore
was,
we
didn't,
have
any
place
to
stay
and
we
stayed
at
the
hotel
and
I
thought
that
was
just
great.
I
remember
the
big
winding
stairway
and
I
thought
that
was
so
pretty
and
I
did
enjoy
seeing
that
and
well.
I
enjoyed
many
many
years
here
in
florian
osmore.
E
And
our
next
guest-
I'm
bernice,
conklin
coleman.
I
came
here
75
years
ago
this
month
and
if
you
think
things
are
wild
here
now
you
should
have
seen
it.
Then
the
reals
had
purchased
all
this
property
and
offered
his
workers
in
the
plant
an
opportunity
to
come
here
and
he
shipped
their
furnishings
everything
and
they
came
and
built.
I
guess
you'd
call
them
shacks
they
weren't
sanitary
toilets,
and
we
came
here
a
week
before
christmas
and
there
was
no
dairy
there.
E
Of
course,
there
was
no
place
to
buy
bread,
no
grocery
store,
nothing
except
the
good
weather
and
of
course,
we
as
children
loved
it,
because
we
love
the
warm
weather
and
we
love
the
bay
and.
C
F
G
I
remember
like
they
said
everyone
was
so
friendly
and
coming
from
michigan
we
weren't
used
to
the
everyone
that
you
met
being
a
friend,
they
kind
of
looked
at
you
up
there
and
you
were
an
outsider
down
here.
Everyone
was
part
of
the
gang
and
there
was
the
lots
of
good
times.
The
bay
was
where
we
spent
most
of
our
time.
G
There
was
good
fishing
good
oysters,
good
crabs,
lots
of
fun
good
swimming.
We
spent
most
of
our
time
in
on
our
bathing,
suits
the
old
pier
that
ran
out
in
the
bay.
I
remember
when
my
father
went
home
one
time
his
brother
met
him
at
the
railroad
station,
said
herm
said:
remember
those
sharks
we
used
to
get
down
there
about
that
low.
He
said,
don't
forget,
they
were
six
feet
long.
G
He
wanted
a
stories
guys
not
find
out
he'd
been
telling
stories,
but
old,
old
morrow.
I
have
a
lot
of
fond
memories.
I
left
here
when
I
was
in
the
fourth
grade,
but
went
to
dunedin,
but
still
holes
bar
is
has
a
lot
of
fond
memories.
Like
you
mentioned
the
old
hotel,
we
lived
in
the
hotel
to
the
furniture,
came
down
and
it's
hard
to
believe
the
old
hotel
burned
down.
H
My
father
moved
to
florida
in
1919
over
in
the
sonola
sasa
and
had
a
business
manufacturing
conveyors
and
he
moved
to
oldsmore
in
1930
into
some
these
tractor
buildings
that
bob
referred
to
that
were
empty
at
that
time
and
mr
olds
wanted
payroll
and
to
get
something
going
in
here
and
keep
people
working.
So
my
dad
moved
his
business
over
here
and
we
had
a
manufacturing
business
built
conveyors
and
citrus
machinery.
H
Al's
father
used
to
run
some
of
his
oranges
over
our
citrus
plant
that
we
had
as
a
as
a
test
plant
there
in
in
one
of
the
buildings
that
old
had
so
I
have
fond
memories
of
oldsmar
and
I
just
love
all
these
people
that
are
here,
it's
just
great
to
see
them
all.
Here
again,
I
wasn't
original,
but
I
knew
the
people
I
went
to
school
with
them.
F
H
A
A
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
see
you.
There
hey
we'll
come
around
the
table
now
and
our
next
guest.
I'm.
I
Richard
maltiness,
I
was
born
in
tampa
in
29
and
we
moved
out
to
the
farm
just
outside
of
oldsmar
in
46,
where
we've
been
here
ever
since,
with
the
exception
of
two
years
that
I
was
in
the
navy,
I'm
also
a
retired
postmaster
here
in
old,
smart
for
30
years
and
this
afternoon,
I'm
sitting
here
with
these
lovely
people
waiting
to
hear
some
things
before
my
time
on
oldsmar
that
maybe
I've
never
heard
before,
and
I
hope
we
have
a
very
good
meeting.
A
J
I'm
tom
maltiness
richard's
father
and
I
moved
out
here
in
bullsmart
in
1945,
in
the
outskirts
of
baltimore.
I've
never
been
a
resident
of
oldsmar
and
right
now,
I'm
living
50
feet
away
from
oldsmob
and
the
property
where
I'm
living
numbers
was
supposed
to
be
the
tap
I
mean
the
oldsmar
yacht
club
and
the
property
owned
near.
Double
branch
belong
gold
by
the
name,
a
bowl
subdivision,
and
I
bought
that
all
through
the
state
and
I
had
a
little
farm
there.
J
It
makes
me
feel
a
little
squirmish
right
now
to
a
little
shaky
because
to
know
that
there's
still
a
lot
of
people
that
I
haven't
met
for
a
long
time,
they're
still
alive,
and
that
makes
me
very
glad-
and
I
am
very
proud
to
see
oldsmore,
because
I
know
when
I
lived
in
tampa
people
would
when
they
hear
old
mother.
They
laughed.
J
A
K
G
J
You
don't
see
any
more
what
north
of
the
railroad
tracks
yeah.
I
remember
that
now
it
came
to
me.
J
K
After
about
all,
I've
enjoyed
odemar
for
a
good
many
years
and
we've
always
been
a
lot
of
nice
people
here.
Everything
I
couldn't
say
anything
bad
about
odemar.
If
I
wanted
to.
A
C
C
I
C
C
You
know
everyone's
like
swim
in
that,
but
when
that's
all
you
have-
and
you
just
do-
but
I
remember
a
lot
of
things
too,
as
we
go
along.
D
D
D
D
D
And
there
was
a
little
house
on
the
other
side
of
it
where
we
lived
at
that
time.
We
later
years
moved
to
congress
street,
but
first,
when
we
moved
here,
we
lived
in
the
back
of
the
store
building
and
my
dad
started
the
grocery
store.
D
every
once
in
a
while.
Somebody
writes
an
article
and
that's
been
in
the
paper
two
or
three
different
times
late
and
somebody
was
helping.
Mother
claudia
was
about
a
year
old
and
she
dropped
glow
deal.
The
man
caught
her
by
her
feet
and
mother
had
packed
all
her
jewels
in
this
little
suitcase
and
that
floated
all
the
way
across
the
highway
before
the
man
could
rescue
it
never
thought
any
of
the
watches
or
anything
in
there
would
be
any
good.
D
So
we
had
many
many
good
times
with
all
the
young
people
growing
up
here
in
old,
smart.
I
have
lots
of
good
memories
of
everybody,
and
it
was
just
a
gang
of
kids
that
grew
up
and
stuck
together.
They
always
went
to
the
bay
to
swim.
D
We'd
have
big
fish
fries,
like
I
said
a
while
ago,
down
at
the
pier,
and
we
just
had
lots
of
good
times
dances
every
week
and
different
things.
There
was
always
something
to
do.
We
all
went
to
church
after
church.
We'd
all
walked
to
the
fear
when
that
train
run
at
10
20.
That
was
a
signal
for
everybody
to
go
home.
D
A
A
A
I
was
managing
to
win
dixie
and-
and
I
was
looking
for
a
house-
we
lived,
we
were
the
first
house
on
starkey
road,
just
down
by
j.b
starkey's
after
he
left
and
this
fella
another
store
manager
came
up
said.
I
found
the
ideal
place
for
you
because
he
knew
that.
I
liked.
A
I
don't
like
a
lot
of
people
around
me,
so
he
brought
me
up
to
this
place
called
oldsmar,
and
I
said,
oh
my
word,
you
know
what
county
so
we
came
up
and
there
was
a
house
on
the
bay
in
the
northernmost
part
of
the
bay,
and
I
seen
this
and
I
said
this
is
where
my
kids
are
going
to
be
reared
like
we
had
four
young
kids,
this
is
where
they're
going
to
be
rare.
They
can
run
till
they
drop.
A
What
a
fabulous
town
remember
when
you
come
across
the
old
bridge
and
get
that
brick
road.
I
just
said
I'm
coming
into
heaven
look
at
that
road,
so
we
bought
the
house
and
I'm
not
leaving
I.
This
is
me.
This
is
the
most
fabulous
city
in
the
state.
There's
been
some
comments.
I
the
little
article
read
here
that
that
that
was
written.
I
have
gotten
some
of
my
questions.
Out
of
there,
osmar
has
been
overlooked
in
the
past.
A
A
A
A
That
land
was
from
pasco
county
south
to
the
tampa
bay
from
lake
tarpon
east
to
the
hillsborough
county
line,
also
east
of
the
hillsborough
county
line,
way
into
hillsboro,
also
half
of
safety
harbor
and
a
great
big
part
of
clearwater.
A
A
I
was
trying
to
swipe
the
title
search,
but
I
got
caught
bud.
Won't,
let
me
keep
it,
but
I'm
going
to
try
when,
as
the
little
as
the
little
paper
said,
the
slogan
that
reo's
had
was
osmar
for
health
wealth
and
happiness.
That
was
the
slogan
he
came
up
with
when
he
was
trying
to
sell
them.
So
he
built
a
post
office,
the
railroad
station,
the
wayside
in
and
a
power
plant,
which
I
never
knew
until
here
on
our
first
tape
that
osmar
had
a
power
plant.
A
I
want
everybody
that
watches
this
tape
in
the
future
to
know
that
osmar
had
the
first
power
plant
in
the
north
part
of
the
county.
Okay,
I
think
it
was
around
1925
or
26.
When
tico
came
in
25
25
when
tico
came
in
okay,
all's
built
the
the
real
farm
and
they
were
basically,
I
think
in
hillsborough
county,
that's
where,
where,
where
tommy
comes
in
and
where
you
were
reared,
I
found
out
that
there
was
a
park
across
from
the
hotel,
which
I
didn't
know.
A
A
B
Cle-Track
tractor,
he
named
it
the
klytrek.
It
was
a
small
truck
type
tractor
because
of
the
muddy
condition
of
oldsmar.
The
wheels
wouldn't
take
hold
so
he
devised
this
track
type
small
farm
tractor
and
he
had
a
big
demonstration
here
in
the
early
1920s
and
it
was
a
complete
failure
because
he
got
in
a
little
ditch
and
when
he
started
to
back
out,
he
found
out
his
head
engineer
forgot
to
put
a
reverse
gear
in
the
darn
time.
B
H
G
C
H
A
In
1926,
which
I
didn't
know
is
that
the
name
of
osmar
was
changed
to
tampa
shores.
Okay,
and
I
still
have
the
original
gavel
of
the
1926
gavel
that
was
used
from
that
time
until
ward
shrekengost
was
no
longer
on
the
city
council
and
he
was
a
little
upset
whenever
he
left
council.
I
was
on
council
at
that
time
back
in
the
early
70s,
so
he
says:
do
you
want
this
gavel?
A
A
A
One
thing
was
because
of
the
of
course,
the
land
bust,
probably
the
biggest
thing,
was
the
20
1921
hurricane
that
scared
everybody
because
osmar
was
was
pretty
well
devastated
because
of
that
hurricane
now
hurricanes.
Never
bothered
me
since
1946
that
I
could
care
less
about
a
hurricane.
We
haven't
had
one
centurion
well.
B
B
Win
the
director
right
now,
because
I'd
like
to
ask
you
to
get
back
to
the
first
opening
in
oldsmar
for
mr
old
should
take
advantage
of
you
missed
just
one
little
period
of
history
there.
The
tampa
road
was
paved
with
red
ventrified
georgia,
brick.
D
B
B
J
Isn't
what
you
call
a
forest
lake
road
from.
J
A
B
I
remember
that
quite
vividly
and
every
time
in
1918
my
daddy
took
me
in
the
buggy
to
go
over
and
buy
some
residue
horses
from
world
war,
one
that
were
being
auctioned
in
tampa.
So
we
led
two
horses
back
tied
to
the
back
of
the
buggy,
but
every
time
a
motorized
vehicle
would
have
to
get
off
of
the
nine
foot
paving.
B
Usually
they
were
stuck
but
good
because
of
the
mud
or
sand
with
no
ditching,
no
grading
or
anything
of
that
type,
and
I
remember
going
over
that
quite
vividly
from
downtown
tampa
and
it
went
right
by
the
old
flowing
whales
that
you're
well
acquainted
with,
and
that
water
was
very
similar
to
that
of
safety.
Harbor,
that's
right!
It
would
cure
any
ailment,
and
I
have
proof
of
my
grandfather.
Going
there
and
safe
to
harbor
and
doctors.
All
over
the
state
had
tried
to
cure
his
stomach
ailments.
B
A
B
B
E
A
Okay,
I
remember
the
old,
the
old
tampa
road
in
into
palm
harbor,
because
in
fact
we
just
we
just
now
removed
one
of
the
old
bridges,
one
of
the
down
in
front
of
harbor
palms.
It
had
been
there
since
the
beginning.
They
just
now
took
that
up
because
because
they
moved
the
road
over
to
the
to
the
north
a
little
bit,
then
you
said
that
okay
aft
after
the
red,
brick
road.
E
B
G
B
B
County
and
dr
george
fectic
did
the
same
thing
within
his
area
from
yellow
bluff
up
to
oldsmar
those
were
olds
was
developing
oldsmar.
Dr
said
george
victor
got
in
with
him
and
obligated
himself
for
the
sawmill
here,
and
I
have
papers
on
that
because
I
had
to
go
to
first
exchange
national
bank.
I
believe
in
tampa
to
settle
all
those
obligations
that
dr
george
bectic
had
because
I
bought
thousands
of
acres
of
land
that
was
offered
after
hectic's
death.
B
G
E
B
Olds
and
I
did
not
get
along
at
all-
I
was
an
outlaw
and
I
was
made
a
deputy
sheriff
in
18.
I
believe
it
was
no
it's
a
little
later
than
that.
I
was
15
years
old
when
I've
made
it
up
to
sheriff
in
pinellas
county
up
until
this
year,
I've
served
62
years
as
the
deputy
sheriff
pinellas
and
I've
seen
it
grow.
Yes,.
I
I
B
B
H
B
It
followed
the
highlands
across
pinellas
county
coming
and
the
old
bombing
range.
You
remember
that
on
580
during
world
war
ii
right
it
bisected
that
at
an
angle
it
came
under
the
traffic
light
which
wasn't
there
at
that
time,
at
mcmullen,
booth
and
colonel
road,
then
it
varied
just
a
little
a
slight
curve
and
it
passed
right
at
the
front
steps
of
the
eunices
plant.
Today
you
can
still
see
the
marks
of
the
old
trail.
B
All
the
way
through
north
oldsmar,
going
just
south
of
the
racetrack
road
and
the
track
of
the
road
running
back
to
the
barns
from
the
racetrack
road
was
approximately
the
same
location
where
it
crossed
over
branches.
That
was
the
only
place
you
could
get
across
double
branches
because
the
military
had
cleared
it
out.
I
Well
that
where
it
crossed
double
branches,
he
went
through
our
farm,
that's
mister
ground.
On
the
other
side,
there
is
still
wild.
I
remember
your
farm
very
well
and
that
road,
I
imagine
if
it
was
burnt
off,
you
could
go
in
there
and
still
see
it.
You.
B
We
stopped
that
burning.
You
know
we
picked
that
up
from
the
old
indian
tribes
here
they
would
burn
small
patches
for
the
gardens.
Next
year
we
used
to
have
hundreds
of
acres
of
wild
oats
from
here
north,
and
that
was
wonderful.
Deer
and
cattle
feed
they'd
make
their
living
off
of
the
wild
oats.
B
I'm
anxious
about
that,
because
I
paid
the
obligations
wherein
dr
george
hectic
had
invested
in
this
sawmill
right
here
and
I'm
interested
financially
in
settling
all
those
debts.
So
I
get
clear
title
to
every
piece
of
property
north
of
the
racetrack
and
north
of
the
tampa
road,
except
for
the
section
for
the
colored
people
were
developing
and
the
heidelberg
tavern,
which
I
have
the
old
rex
cafe
here.
Some
of
you
haven't
seen
it
just
pass
around
if
you
care
to-
and
that
was
the
place.
J
B
It
was
just
east
of
that
several
hundred
feet
yeah
and
I
own
that
property,
and
they
were
digging
shell
moral.
We
call
it
yeah
on
the
north
side
of
the
racetrack
road,
just
west
north
of
the
railroad
background,
crest
bay,
crest.
No,
it's
not
a
subdivision
there.
It
was
west
of
the
racetrack
road
and
the
county
of
pinellas
stole
thousands
and
thousands
of
yards
of
material
of
marl
out
of
that
pit.
B
While
I
was
in
world
war
ii
fighting
and
one
of
the
biggest
contractors
and
paved
all
that
parking
lot
for
the
racetrack
stealing
marl
out
of
my
property,
I
owned
everything
north
of
the
railroad
all
the
way
up
to
the
racetrack.
J
B
K
J
B
C
B
People
would
move
off
and
leave
it
and
I'd
get
one,
not
every
time
I
could.
Until
I
got
the
very
last
one,
it
was
fence
for
the
cattle
pasture.
A
They
I
want
to
introduce
earl
howie.
This
is
another
one
of
your
opposed
mars.
Well,
what
one
of
those
more
spinous
counts?
Okay,
they're
all
highlighted.
I.
A
Snap
off
a
little
bit
early-
let's
I
want
to
get
some.
I
want
to
go
on
on
a
little
a
little
different
line
right
now
and
just
get
some.
I
want
to
get
some
thoughts
from
different
people
about
different
things
I
want
do
you
have
any
memories
of
the
heidelberg,
any
particular
memories.
D
D
B
When
was
the
heidelberg
built
later
in
the
late
20s
early
30s,
because
it
caught
fire
one
time
my
daddy
and
I
were
under
the
adjoining
oak
trees
eating
our
lunch
in
a
paper
bag
and
my
daddy
noticed
the
smoke
coming
up
from
under
the
edge
where
the
oak
leaves
had
blown
up
under
the
building.
It
was
up
on
concrete
block
about
18
inches
off
the
ground
and
we
both
took
our
thermos
bottles
when
he
called
my
attention
to
it
and
had
those
filled
with
coffee.
B
So
we
poured
our
coffee
and
put
out
the
fire.
We
looked
and
found
that
a
not
a
quart
whiskey
bottle
partially
filled
with
water,
had
made
a
magnifying
glass
and
set
the
oak
leaves
of
fire,
otherwise
that
the
picture
wouldn't
have
been
possible.
It
turned
into
quite
a
popular
spot
for
the
racetrack
people.
D
B
B
A
Anybody
watching
the
tape,
the
heidelberg
was
this.
I
thought
it
was
a
fabulous
building.
When
I
came
to
town
there
was
nothing
in
it.
Some
hippies
finally
finally
moved
in
there,
but
the
heidelberg
set
where
forest
lakes
boulevard
is
right
now
going
into
the
forest
lake
subdivision,
and
that
was
the
heidelberg.
It
was
a
fabulous
to
me.
It
was
a
fabulous
building.
A
B
D
And
you
know,
another
thing
is
that
I
remember
is
pretty
much
not
right
at
the
pier.
K
D
B
H
A
Was
a
to
me,
it
was,
it
was
an
intriguing
building.
E
G
A
G
B
Sir,
no
sir
1921
october
21st
1921,
I
patrolled
that
area
because
I
owned
it
and
there
was
no
barge
ever
in
there.
Somebody
had
misinformed
you
on
that.
D
B
D
H
J
Went
over
the
down
on
the
back
during
the
hurricane,
but
the
rail
railroad,
trestle
train
the
engine
went
down.
Anybody
remember.
B
D
J
D
H
C
C
Sitting
out
in
the
under
the
palm
trees
and
right
at
the
head
of
tampa
bay,
so
frankly,.
C
E
B
C
H
K
H
He
sold
the
property
to
mr
bland,
who
had
previously
been
a
developer
in
oldsmar
and
the
next
day
mr
bland
leased
it
to
the
federal
government
for
a
transient
camp
yeah
and
the
transits
they
went
around
picked
them
up
all
they
were
all
over
the
highway
in
those
days
because
there
was
nobody
had
any
work
and
the
transits
came
in
there
and
they
insisted
we
get
out,
and
so
my
dad
got
hold
of
the
old.
What
was
started
for
a
hotel
building
down
on
the
bay
and
the
transit
moved
us
over.
H
There
moved
our
factory
moved
the
machinery,
so
I
know
about
that.
Then
you
remember
mcmullen
robert
mcmullen
know
him
well,
he
was,
he
was
in
charge
of
the
farm.
They
they
they
put
in
the
farming
and
raised
the
first
time.
They
got
a
bushel
full
of
peas.
They
were
just
tickled
to
death,
they
were
in
business,
they
put.
I
B
A
C
They
they
stayed
in
the
house
until
the
water
came
in
to
the
first
floor.
They
moved
everything
upstairs
that
they
possibly
could
and
elvira
was
an
excellent
swimmer.
Mother
could
not
swim
at
all
and
father
could
swim
so
they
made
it
across
and
when
it
got
too
deep,
elvira
had
the
toe
mother
across,
because
she
was
quite
a
bit
shorter
than
her.
I
was
they
finally
made
it
up
to
a
barn
up
near
the
highway
and
they
got
mother
laid
out
and
elvira
noticed
that
mother
wasn't
breathing
and
she
didn't
know
what
to
do
so.
C
C
D
B
March,
the
21st
of
1921
that
storm
hit
here
came
right
up
the
bay
and
at
the
traffic
light
on
mcmullen
booth,
road
and
curlew
road.
The
water
was
so
deep
there
that
frank
huffins
had
to
move
all
his
light
furniture
up
on
the
second
floor
and
it
got
into
the
second
floor.
They
piled
furniture
up
there
and
got
an
ax
and
chopped
their
way
into
the
attic.
D
The
water
got
just
up
to
the
top
steps
and
dad
said:
we've
got
to
get
out
and
they
had
told
everybody
to
go
to
the
bank
bank
building
and
because
there
was
a
big
room
up
over
there.
So
he
evacuated
up
there,
and
I
can
remember
my
brother.
He
was
on
one
side
of
mother
and
my
sister
on
the
other
side
to
hold
her.
You
know
so
that
they
would
all
stay
together
and
dad
carried
me
on
on
his
shoulders,
and
I
thought
that
was
great.
D
C
J
C
G
G
H
H
About
a
half
a
block
north
of
580
of
saint
pete
drive,
as
I
understand
where
he
lives
there
used
to
be.
G
I
I
B
B
Out
here
to
johnson
johnson,
I
believe
it
is
north
end
of
lugengong
road
that
is
too
low
and
that
floods
quickly,
they
should
have
built
that
up
a
little
higher,
and
if
we
tell
these
people
what
the
situation
is
actually
so
they
can
prepare
for
it.
I
think
we'll
be
in
the
long
run
ahead
of
the
game.
J
B
J
G
H
He's
talking
about
west
east,
you
know,
west
of
the
state
of
racetrack
road
and
a
little
south
of
the
tampa
road
is,
I
believe,
where
the
farms
were
originally.
G
G
E
F
J
When
I
start
farming,
when
I'm
buying
the
bowl
subdivision
five
five
acre
track
at
a
time,
I
was
told
it
was
farms
there,
but
during
the
hurricane
they
all
disappeared.
The
people
left
there
was
vineyards
and
they
were
farming.
They
said
they
had
good
pepper
plants
and
a
lot
acres
and
acres
of
peppers
and.
D
D
Father
had
yeah
my
dad
had
it
was
four
years
there
was
40
acres
that
was
north
of
north
of
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
of
the
railroad
track,
and-
and
I
can
remember
one
year,
he
had
well,
he
had
tomatoes
and
he
had
a
packing
place
where
he
packed
tomatoes,
peppers
and,
and
then
it's
a
the
last
time
that
I
can
remember
really
a
a
big
crop
that
he
had
was
a
was
a
pepper
craw,
and
that
was
the
year
that
we
had
a
bad
frost
and
he
lost
everything.
That
year.
H
There's
1925
florida
gathered
here
there's
a
an
item
that
says:
fh
coleman
truck
drawer.
I
Yeah
across
from
the
bar
down
here
at
the
barn
bar
on
the
580
that
whole
ground
out
in
front
of
there
was
all
under
farm
and
that
had
to
be
hundreds
of
acres
in
there
they
used
to
have
mr
harmon
had
the
pasture
there
and
we
kids,
we
used
to
walk
across
this
pasture,
and
you
could
still
see
the
rows
in
there.
I
In
fact,
today,
if
it
was
burnt
off,
you
could
probably
see
him,
and
that
would
probably
run
from
the
racetrack
road
down
to
beyond
this
bar
restaurant,
all
that
area
north
to
the
railroad
track.
That
was
all
under
farm
there.
Well
long,
that's
when
they
moved
it
from
over
this
side,
moved
it
across.
I
A
K
D
E
From
the
pinellas
county
line
in
hillsborough
county
down
old
past
double
branches
that
was
all
cultivated
is
that
where
the
silo
was
the
silo
was
just
of
the
county
line,
there
were
at
least
three
silos
there
yeah
he
had
them.
They
were
there.
When
we
came,
they
had
the
choppers,
where
they'd
take
the
corn
stalks
and
put
them
in
and
then
lift
them
up
into
the
top
of
the
silo
sold.
It.
A
K
A
E
North
of
the
right.
G
E
They'd
make
the
molds
in
the
morning
and
then
they'd.
They
changed
it
for
the
ice
cream
iron,
yes
into
the
molds
in
the
afternoon,
for
the
part
of
the
tractor.
I
don't
know
what
it.
H
I
C
I
I
G
They
made
the
engine
at
all,
but
the
first
tractor
they
used
it
like
a
plow
without
a
horse
pulling
it
and
then,
when,
when
ford
came
out
with
the
tractor,
you
could
ride
in
they
hooked
a
little
piece
in
behind
it.
So
a
fella
had
a
little
cart
full
with
him,
but
like
he
says,
when
they
didn't
have
a
reverse
center,
they
got
in
the
ditch.
A
E
Many
they
sold,
but
that
foundry
must
have
been
open
for
a
year
or
more
nine.
G
Months,
you
know
they've
been
making
grove
heaters
there
and
all
sorts
of
heaters
and
we
had
about
five
years
without
a
frost.
That's
when
dad
went
not
eating
what
was
skinner
machinery
over
there.
H
A
Let's
get
to
the
to
the
post
office:
where
was
the
first
post
office
london?
Where
was
that.
C
B
C
H
D
B
C
D
B
Was
ill
so
my
daddy
saddled
the
horse
said
boy,
you
go
there
to
that
little
drug
store
in
oldsmar
and
get
some
medicine
for
your
mother.
So
I
rode
over
here
and
tied
my
horse
to
a
post
that
supported
the
roof
on
the
post
office,
walked
around
the
porch
which
surrounded
the
building
to
the
post
office
left
the
prescription
doctor
filled
it
in
a
few
minutes.
I
walked
back
and
a
sudden
summer
rain
had
come
up
and
my
horse
had
stepped
up
into
the
wooden
floor
of
the
porch.
B
B
I
said
mr
olds
I'll
move
that
horse
when
it
stops
raining
and
not
before,
and
that's
the
first
words
that
we
had,
but
not
the
last
I
was
outlawed,
like
I
told
you,
because
these
cattle
would
come
through
the
gates
and
had
ruined
the
nice
lawns
here
and
the
flowers
and
the
little
gardens,
and
they
blamed
it
all.
On
my
daddy
and
I.
B
H
D
H
B
B
C
H
C
E
B
Can
you
define
the
location
of
the
original
park.
A
Here,
yes,
for
the
what
they
have
just
said,
it's
right
here
where
the
bank.
I
I
Then
they
had
a
building
over,
which
is
right
in
front
of
this
building
here
on
state
street
that
they
had
for
real
estate,
and
then
they
turned
it
into
a
grocery
store
and
a
one
room
for
the
post
office
and
they
had
a
porch
all
across
the
front
and
down
the
side,
big
overhang,
and
you
would
come
up
on
the
porch
and
go
up
to
a
box
section,
there's
about
100
boxes.
There.
I
H
C
F
I
B
G
H
B
A
Let's
try
to
talk
one
at
a
time
because
this
thing's
gonna
get
garbled
on
us.
Okay,
now
you,
as
you
were
mentioning
the
fire.
B
E
D
At
one
time,
I
guess
maybe,
but
a
dry
goods
store,
the
white
hearst
had
yeah
and
then
the
snivels
had
a
grocery
store
over
there
and
the
post
office
is
in
the
back
in
that
building,
and
that
was
that's.
B
I
From
this
one
here,
like
I
said
it
goes
from
the
the
hotel
to
where,
if
they
went
over
to
the
drug
store
that
was
on
the
corner
over
here,
that
would
have
been
the
second.
Then
it
came
over
to
this
building
over
here.
That
was
right
in
front
of
this
one
and
mrs
harmon
bought
the
bank
building
and
she
moved
it
over
there
and
then
after
we
grew
out,
then
we
came
over
here.
We
have
four
post.
A
A
J
A
C
I
H
K
H
K
K
B
G
B
Road
is
block
w
right
and
the
fire
station
was
there
just
before
the
crossing
of
the
tampa
road
over
the
railroad
track,
and
there
was
this
that
was,
we
got
a
picture
somewhere.
B
A
There
will
no
reason.
Okay,
let
me
ask
you,
let
me
ask
this
now:
the
area
we're
talking
about
is
by
the
is
on
tampa
road
and
where
the
railroad
tracks
go
across
by
guilford
strength,
you're
saying
that
they're
used
that
there
at
one
time
there
was
a
service
station
there.
Yes,.
B
Well,
maybe
you
followed
the
fire
station,
but
that
was
you
can't
tell
me.
I
believe
that
there's
any
other
location
for
a
fire
truck.
I
can't
remember
any,
but
I
do
remember
a
fire
truck
in
that
building.
K
A
G
Right
over
here
and
then
there
wasn't
anything
else
on
top
of
the
road
except
where
you
turned
in
went
into
the
tractor
plant
and
when.
H
B
B
E
H
I
A
H
K
H
B
Waterfront
as
such,
but
it
was
waterfront
after
they
channeled
into
the
bay
yeah.
J
H
B
Here
quite
often,
and
the
big
house
in
tampa
and
some
of
our
federal
officials
would
meet
with
them
down
here
for
conversations,
I
dated
the
girl
right
next
door
to
maybe
a
sensation
next
door
to
the
big
house.
That's
where
this,
oh,
the
big
labor
leader
that
was
disposed
of
recently.
What's
his
name,
the
automobile
tycoon.
B
J
C
K
G
C
A
The
pier
the
pier
ran
out,
I
don't
know
how
many
feet
it
went
out
thousand
feet
a
thousand
feet
and
it
was.
It
was
wide
enough
for
two
model:
t's
right
right
and
at
the
end
of
the
pier
you
drive
out
here,
you
are,
you
could
drive
back
and
then
and
then
ahead
out
on
them,
yeah
and
then
the
casino.
So
so
people
from
both
pinellas
county
and
hillsborough
county
would
come
to
the
casino
here
in
osmar
right.
Is
that
what
it
was
or
was
it
just
for
the
citizens
of
bozeman.
H
E
B
Didn't
they
the
book
that
we're
preparing
on
northeast
pinellas
county?
We
have
ascertained
through
the
county,
engineer's
office,
the
exact
latitude
and
longitude
of
the
traffic
light
at
east
lake
road
and
the
tampa
road,
so
that
when
the
newspapers
come
out,
this
storm
is
headed
in
a
direction
that
will
throw
it
right
at
this
latitude
of
longitude.
C
B
D
And
I
think
too
that
when
they
put
that
causeway
that
that
cut
off
old,
smart
in
a
way,
yeah
well.
D
B
A
A
B
E
I
lived
in
ozma
four
years
and
went
to
high
school,
went
to
four
different
high
schools
where
well.
I
went
to
safety
harbor
one
year
and
the
bridge
the
long
bridge
washed
out.
So
we
went
the
rest
of
the
year
there,
but
it
took
the
roof
off
the
school
building
and
the
next
year
they
put
us
in
the
hallway
of
the
elementary
school.
D
E
B
G
D
Well,
I
had
I
had
like
three
in
that
one
room
and
then
I
had
my
three
in
the
next
week
in
the
picture
and
then
I
went
to
safety
harbor
for
the
seven
eight
to
nine
and
then
I
went
to
clear
water
for
the
night.
B
1917
we
had
an
election
here
in
the
south
in
the
pinellas
county
from
the
tampa
road
south
went
under
the
no
fence.
Law
means.
If
you
have
a
garden,
you
wouldn't
have
to
fence
a
livestock
out.
It's
a
reverse
label
for
the
law.
It's
an.
B
B
The
cattlemen
come
in
here
that
had
cattle
from
the
south
end,
they
were
mad
and
they
took
the
fence
down
wrecked
it.
My
daddy
spoke
up,
he
said
judge.
If
you
will
make
my
son
a
full
deputy
at
15
years
of
age,
I
will
guarantee
you
that
I'll
repair
that
fence
that
was
cut
in
87
places
and
I'll
guarantee
you
to
keep
the
cattle
where
they
belong.
B
And,
after
that
we
begin
buying
the
land
to
pasture
our
cattle.
But
that
was
occurred
because
some
cattle
got
into
saint
petersburg.
That
law
was
passed,
got
on
central
avenue
down
next
to
the
bay
some
good
citizens
going
to
drive
them
out
and
close
the
gate.
B
D
A
Okay,
we
just
included
our
our
second
taping
of
the
history
of
osmar,
with
all
these
fabulous
people
that
we
had
here
and
to
speak
about
the
history
of
osmar.
You
have
to
think
about
the
future
of
osmar
and,
as
we
wrap
up
this
taping,
I
want
to
introduce
to
you
thousands
of
people
out
here.
That's
going
to
watch
this
tape
in
future
generations.
A
Bruce
haddock
bruce
is
the
current
city
manager
of
osmar.
The
best
city
manager,
osmar
has
ever
had
bruce,
has
done
a
lot
for
the
city,
and
I
would
I'm
I'm
going
to
put
him
on
the
spot.
I'm
going
to
ask
him
to
go
ahead
and
tell
him
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
himself,
but
also
what
he
has
in
his
mind
for
the
future
of
osmar.
F
Well,
thank
you
jerry.
I
enjoyed
listening
to
the
history
this
afternoon
and
gave
me
a
better
appreciation
for
the
city
and,
of
course,
it's
a
pretty
big
jump
over
quite
a
few
years.
I've
been
here
a
little
over
five
years
and
actually
I
think,
oldsmar
has
had
quite
a
bit
of
history.
Just
in
that
short
period
of
time,
I
like
to
think
that
we've
improved
the
services
of
the
of
the
city
government
in
just
about
every
area
over
the
last
five
years,
and
just
you
know
what
I
consider
some
of
the
major
accomplishments.
F
We
started
the
first
parks
and
recreation
department.
We
have
taken
the
original
bank
of
oldsmar
building
and
reconstructed,
that
into
a
library,
our
oldsmar
public
library
and,
of
course,
the
new
city
hall
that
we
just
moved
into
the
end
of
october
this
year
and
we'll
be
having
our
grand
opening
now
in
december.
F
There's
other
improvements
that
are
not
as
visible
to
the
public,
such
as
our
advanced
wastewater
treatment,
plant
and
water
system,
improvements
that
do
a
lot
to
promote
the
standard
of
living
here
in
oldsmar
and
things
that
are
taken.
I
guess
for
granted
by
some,
but
things
such
as
fire
protection
and
advanced
life,
support
and
emergency
medical
services
that
all
those
things
that
have
been
initiated
in
the
last
five
years.
F
I
think,
certainly
even
as
these
people
who
were
here
this
afternoon
and
even
those
before
them
anticipated
osmar
had
a
great
future
ahead
of
it,
and
I
think
it's
more
true
today
than
ever
before
and
what
was
recognized.
I
think
in
the
founding
of
the
city
that
we
have
a
geographical
location
that
is
our
greatest
asset,
probably
and
something
that
no
one
will
ever
be
able
to
take
away
from
us.
F
We
are
at
the
top
of
tampa
bay,
we're
a
great
location
for
any
business
or
anyone
who
is
looking
to
market
their
products
or
services
in
the
tampa
bay
area.
If
you
want
to
reach
pinellas
county
hillsborough
county
pasco
county,
this
is
the
place
to
be,
and
you
know
that's
that's
not
going
to
change.
We
know
that's
going
to
be
a
big
selling
point
right
on
into
the
future.
F
I
think
that
some
of
the
recent
projects-
things
that
are
even
under
construction
right
now,
such
as
the
tampa
bay
skating
academy,
will
have
an
olympic
size
ice
rink
here
in
the
city
of
oldsmar.
I
think
that
you
know
some
of
the
people
who
were
here
today
would
probably
get
pretty
excited
about
that
too.
F
A
He
said
it
well
well
under
the
leadership
of
bruce,
and
I
think
this
this
particular
council
and
the
leadership
of
future
councils.
A
This
will
be
the
city
of
pinellas
county
and
we
hope
to
do
more
of
these
tapings
on
on
the
history
of
osmar,
not
only
with
the
older
people,
but
some
of
the
more
recent
people
that
was
born
here
and
they're
in
their
40s
and
50s
now,
and
I
want
to
thank
bruce
for
what
he
for
what
he
has
done
for
the
city
of
osmora,
and
I
want
to
thank
tci
for
for
helping
us
put
this
on.
Thank.