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A
A
A
The
the
first
agenda
item
we
had
a
citizen
contact
and
about
some
advertisements
and
so
we're
going
to
go
back
and
look
at
chapter
six.
A
Oh
gosh,
I'm
so
sorry,
I
went
straight
to
agenda
items,
I'm
so
excited
to
get
moving
on
this
I
apologize.
Do
we
have
any
citizens
here
actually
for
the
open
forum,
anybody
here
to
speak?
A
C
A
D
Be
yeah,
I'm
a
nixon
city
clerk
and
I
had
a
call
from
a
resident
who
was
upset
about
receiving
the
newspapers
of
advertisements
on
thursday
mornings
on
his
driveway,
and
he
had
called
and
emailed
tampa
bay
times
several
times,
and
they
just
won't
stop
it.
He
contacted
code
enforcement
and
they
had
advised
him.
Oh
well,
it's
not
illegal
because
it's
considered
a
newspaper,
and
so
he
wanted
us
to
bring
an
ordinance
review
committee
to
look
at
it
to
see.
Is
there
kind
of
a
loophole
for
these
ads
and
is
it
something
to
address.
D
A
Brought
samples
of
the
items
that
the
resident
is
talking
about
I'll
hold
them
up
here,
so
it's
coming
in
a
plastic
bag
and
it
appears
to
be
delivered
by
the
tampa
bay
times,
but
possibly
not
by
people
who
have
description.
So
it's
just
being
dropped.
We
don't
get
these
in
enforced
lakes
like
I
don't
get
this
in
my
neighborhood.
A
Okay,
so
you
know
I
went
back
over
and
I
looked
at
this
and
looked
back
at
our
notes
and
discussion
was
how
hard
it
is
to
enforce,
like
I've
got
sections
6-3-3
open
on
on
the
chapter.
A
A
Okay?
So
that's
a
mouthful
wow,
you
know,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
go
down
to
6-3-5
or
no
I'm
sorry
6-3-4.
B
B
A
G
A
And
it's
not
going
to
really
blow
about
because
it's
in
its
paper
bag,
so
it
is
secure
now
one
thing
I
noticed
you
know
when
I
went
back
through
this:
is
we
don't
have
anything
in
here
that
discusses
how
to
handle
complaints?
How
to
have
resolution?
You
know
what
happens
if
someone's
in
violation
and
if
there's
any
penalties
like
there's,
none
of
that
described
in
the
ordinance,
and
so
what
do
you
do?
We
don't
have
any
direction
from
the
existing
ordinance.
You
know,
how
do
you
handle
that?
A
A
B
B
The
second
way
to
do
it
would
be
to
issue
a
notice
of
violation
and
have
it
be
sent
to
whoever
is
doing
it
and
may
be
brought
to
the
code
enforcement
board.
If
they
in
fact
did
not
come
into
compliance
within
the
time
requested.
In
that
notice
of
violation
or
courtesy
letter,
it
would
come
to
the
code
enforcement
board.
They
would
make
a
decision
whether
or
not
there
was
a
violation
and
assess
a
fine.
B
B
A
E
D
A
Yeah
it
hand
bills
are
allowed
if
they
are
deposited
in
such
a
way
that
they're
not
blown
about.
If
you
put
something
on
your
door
that
says,
do
not
place
a
hand
bill
and
hand
bills
are
allowed
the
way
this
is
written,
so
people
can
leave
something
at
your
door.
I
get
them
with
the
rubber
bands
on
my
doorknob,
so
it's
not
saying
no
hand
bills.
It's
just
saying:
handbills
can't
be
distributed
in
a
manner
that
would
cause
them
to
be
blown
about.
A
B
F
A
There
were
two
different
things
I
mean
soliciting.
Is
somebody
coming
and
knocking
out
the
door,
so
it's
not
counted
as
solutions,
that's
in
a
different
section,
so
this
is
just
about
people
bringing
paper
and
leaving
paper
at
your
doorstep
right.
These
are
being
thrown
in
the
driveway
right.
It's
not
a
newspaper.
A
A
You
know
when
we
passed
through
this
one
before
we
we
voted
to
add.
No,
we
made
no
changes
to
this
chapter.
You
know
we
were
okay
with
it.
Then
we
didn't
make
any
changes
and
if
I
you
know
going
back
to
the
notes,
was
you
know
tom
talking
about
how
hard
it
is
to
enforce
you
know,
and
so
we
left
it.
B
I
certainly
wouldn't
change
the
code
because
of
one
complaint
right.
It's
important
that
you
know
you
would
address
the
well
actually
for
the
city
to
address
the
issue,
wasn't
necessarily
for
the
ordinance
review
committee.
But
if
we
reacted
to
every
time
we
got
one
complaint
of
whatever
20
000
residents.
A
Right,
you
know
it's
something.
I've
noticed
going
through
all
of
these
ordinances
that
how
little
education
that
the
citizens
probably
have
about
what's
even
in
here
and
then
how
do
you
go
about
enforcing
half
of
what
we've
looked
at?
You
know
it's
a
challenge
across
the
board,
so
I
would
say
if
the
city
knows
how
to
respond
to
that
and
there's
steps
for
the
homeowner
to
take.
Then
it's
up
to
code
enforcement
to
contact
the
paper
and
and
let
them
know
that
you
know
that
this
homeowner
is
submitting
a
complaint.
E
A
E
A
C
A
So
then,
for
this
agenda
item
number
two:
we
will
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
take
no
action
and
we'll
leave
it
as
we
had
it
before.
H
A
H
A
C
H
A
A
D
Nixon
safe
clerk,
so
originally
the
first
time
we
went
through
this
chapter,
it
was
well,
but
this
chapter
involves
two
departments
and
one
department
responded
a
little
early.
So
then,
when
this
chapter
is
actually
scheduled
that
the
chief's
comments
weren't
really
looked
at
and
when
I
was
working
on
the
beginning
of
the
draft
report,
I
noticed
this,
and
so
that's
why
it's
come
back.
So
we
can
look
at
the
chief's
comments.
We've
already
addressed
the
other
department
that
was
involved
in
this.
Look
at
those
leisure.
H
On
the
first
page,
guys,
there's
nothing
really
there.
If
we
look
to
the
second
page
under
prohibitions,
the
fire
chief
wanted
to
add
under
sub
sucker
under
section
26-104,
he
wanted
a
subsection
c,
and
so
the
burning
of
household
rubbish,
trash,
combustible,
waste,
material,
furniture,
furnishings
yard,
waste
construction
or
storm
debris
is
prohibited.
H
H
The
specifics
were
in
there
and
whoever
was
there
and
saw
it
and
knew
it
as
a
violation.
I
didn't
see
any
issue
with
adding
it.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
see
anything
just
on
its
face,
I
don't
so
I
was
fine
with
leaving
it
in
has
changed
flip
to
the
next
page
section
26-110.
H
In
the
original,
the
way
that
it
was
written,
there
was
a
b
and
c
he
added
a
d
and
then
changed
some
of
the
language
in
b
and
c,
so
he
wanted
permitted
open
burning
specifically
stated.
H
H
So
this
just
puts
restrictions
on
what
you
can
use
to
start
a
fire,
so
I
don't
think
aerosol
cans
would
work,
and
so
he
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
was
in
there.
You
know
better
than
me,
of
course,
and
I'm
sure,
if
you
guys
had
any
comments,
we'd
hear
them
now,
but
I
thought
this
was
a
good
addition
as
well.
Subsection
d,
open
containers,
fireplaces
or
designated
firings
shall
not
exceed
three
feet
in
diameter
or
two
feet
in
height.
H
I
guess
this
is
to
control
the
size
of
it.
So
again,
I
didn't
see
any
issue
with
that,
especially
if
it's
coming
from
the
chief
flip,
the
page
at
the
top
there's
a
subsection
e
open
recreational
cooking
fire
shall
be
constantly
attended
by
a
competent
person
until
such
fires
extinguish
this
person
shall
have
a
garden
hose
connected
to
the
water
supply
or
other
fire
extinguishing
equipment
readily
available
for
use.
H
H
If
you
flip
to
the
last
page,
if
there's
room
in
the
ordinances
with
some
of
the,
I
wasn't
sure
if
there
was
tommy,
maybe
I'll
say
that
it
looks
like
there's
a
section,
26-112
and
then
26-1133119
is
reserved,
but
the
chief
wanted
pinellas
county
ordinance
article.
He
borrowed
the
language
from
there,
but
basically
to
outline
the
enforcement,
so
law
enforcement
and
the
fire
department
having
jurisdiction,
either
by
ordinance
special
actor
agreement,
shall
have
the
authority
to
enter
upon
the
premises
where
such
burning
is
taking
place
and
enforce
this
section.
H
The
next
section
was
the
aahj,
which
I
understand
to
mean
the
agency
having
jurisdiction,
shall
have
the
legal
authority
to
prohibit
any
open
flames,
candles
and
open
recreational
cooking
fires
or
other
sources
of
ignition,
or
establish
special
regulations
on
the
use
of
any
form
of
fire
or
smoking
material
or
circumstances
make
such
conditions
hazardous.
Again.
I
thought
this
was
a
positive
addition,
basically
outlining.
H
We
have
the
authority
to
enter
upon
the
premises.
If
we
see
something
that
is
going
on,
that
you
shouldn't
be
doing,
and
I
didn't
see
any
issue
so
unless
we
had
comments
from
everyone
here,
I
thought
all
the
additions
were
valuable
and
when
I
emailed
the
chief,
he
wrote
me
right
back.
He
said.
Unless
you
have
questions,
I've
got
nothing
else
to
add.
B
Yep,
I
I
have
a
question.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
comfortable
with
under
26-110
that
the
old
b
and
c
were
just
not
to
be
in
there
to
be
remembered,
because
it
doesn't
look
like
to
me
that
they
are
replacing
one
another.
It
looks
like
he
left
him
in
there,
and
maybe
it
should
just
be
f
and
g.
Did
he
mention
that
to
you?
He
said
the
old
b
and
c
should
come
out.
H
You
didn't
say
that,
specifically
I
thought
b
was,
I
thought:
b
was
rewritten
in
his
mind,
but
you're
right
c
for
the
instruction
of
firefighters
isn't
in
there
any
longer,
and
I
did
catch
that
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
bring
that
up.
I
was
basing
my
stuff
off
of
the
chiefs
notes,
but
if
we
wanted
to
keep
b
and
c,
I
don't
think
that
would
be
a
problem
as
they're
written.
Maybe
the
two
b's,
if
you
will,
but
I
don't
even
see
them
really
being
as
really
repetitive
so.
B
I
would
just
the
old
b
would
be
f
right
and
the
old
c
would
be
g
yeah,
and
that
way
it
would
flow.
H
B
G
H
E
So
I'm
trying
to
find
something
in
here
and
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
missing
it,
but
in
the
definitions
they
have
outdoor
heating
device
talking
about.
Basically,
these
outdoor
heaters,
that
are
run
off
propane
and
they
talk
in
section
26,
107
for
frost
or
cold
and
talk
about
open,
burning
or
the
use
of
outdoor
heating
devices.
E
But
I
don't
see
any
reference
to
the
outdoor
heating
devices
down
in
the
permitted
section.
Do
we
need
to
add
those
in
there.
E
It's
they
call
them
outdoor
heating
devices.
So,
like
those
propane
heaters-
and
I
see
it-
referenced
in
burning
for
cold
or
frost
protection
for
agricultural
reasons,
but
I
don't
see
it
for
personal
use.
E
Outdoor
heating
device,
under
the
definitions-
yeah,
no
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
do.
We
need
to
put
that
into
the
permanent,
open,
burning
section
or
add
that
verbiage
in
there.
E
C
E
E
E
Yes,
what
are
your
thoughts.
B
I
think
we
should
probably
reach
out
to
the
fire
chief
and
see
if
he
has
any
objection
to
it
and
if
he
does
we'll
include
it
as
a
prohibition,
if
he
doesn't,
then
we
probably
should
address
it
to
allow
for
it,
because
otherwise
it
just
is
out
there
in
the
open,
and
we
don't
it's
not
addressed
at
all.
D
B
H
E
If
it
was
me
you've
got,
I
would
I
mean
my
recommendation
would
be
take
section,
26
110
and
call
it
permitted
burning.
So
it's
not
open.
Take
the
word
open
out
of
that
and
then
put
those
devices
into
that
section
somewhere.
A
A
H
I
don't
know
if
we
borrow
the
language
from
107.
or
if
we
just
say
outdoor
heating
devices
are
permitted
as
long
as
they
meet
the
environmental
protection
and
a
permit
is
obtained
pursuant
to
section
26111.
But
I
think
the
first
time
when
we
talked
about
this
and
I'm
not
sure
when
it
was
discussed
on
the
committee.
But.
H
Actually
you
do,
because
what
you're
saying
is
yeah?
This
is
permitted.
Well,
I'm
outdoors.
This
is
an
outdoor
heating
device.
Apparently
there's
a
permit
process
that
I
have
to
go
through.
So
are
you
creating
a
violation
where
it
wouldn't
make
much
sense
to
be
it's
one
of
those
say
it
out
loud
kind
of
things?
If
you're
sitting
in
your
driveway,
can
I
put
a
propane
tank,
put
the
heater
up
top
well
sure?
Well,
it's
just
like!
Well,
you
need
a
permanent
like.
Why
would
it
well
yeah.
H
A
permit
for
that,
but
the
reason
the
way
that
they're
the
use
of
outdoor
heating
devices
up
there
for
colder
frost
protection.
You
would
need
one
correct,
and
so,
if
we,
if
we
brought
it
down
here,
we
would
just
say
yeah,
that's
okay,
but
then
we'd
also
have
to
make
sure
it
was
worded
correctly
where
it's
no
permit
is
necessary.
You
can
have
it
or
outdoor
heating
devices
are
included
in
the
permitted
burn
section
for
recreational
use
or
outdoor
use.
B
If
so,
not
amongst
ourselves,
the
answer
is
no.
My
suggestion
is,
is
we
just
changed
the
title
of
26-107
to
raid
cold
or
frost
protection,
so
you're
taking
out
burning
four
and
then
add
the
sub-paragraph
b
provision
that
authorizes
the
use
of
the
outdoor
heating
device
so
long
as
it
meets
whatever
those
requirements
are.
B
E
C
H
B
C
C
A
Yeah,
just
do
you
need
language
kind
of
thrown
at
you,
or
are
you
just
gonna.
B
I'm
gonna
do
what
I
just
suggested
I'll,
create
the
sub
paragraph
b
address
the
outdoor
heating
devices
make
sure
that
they
meet
certain
whatever
the
manufacture
requirement
is
right.
When
you
buy
one
like
a
grill
and
I'll
add
that
language
in
or
some
paragraph
do
you
change
the
title
from
burning
for
colder,
frost
protection,
just
a
colder
frost
protection,
so
it
takes
out
that
topic
of
burning,
but
it
still
addresses
cold
and
frost
protection.
A
Okay,
that
sounds
good
everybody
good
on
all
the
things
we've
discussed.
Yes,
okay,
so
then,
taking
a
look
at
this
chapter,
26
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
move
this
forward
with
the
changes
that
have
been
discussed,
as
is
second,
second,
okay,
I'll
call
for
a
vote.
Everyone
in
favor
aye
opposed
okay,
so
we
will
move
forward
on
chapter
26..
A
Okay,
so
let's
move
on
to
chapter
42
parks
and
recreation.
We
took
a
look
at
this
at
the
last
meeting
and
it
was
the
first
time
the
committee
had
seen
all
of
the
changes
that
had
been
put
forth
and
it
was
quite
a
few.
So
it's
a
large
chapter
and
a
lot
of
changes
and
people
have
questions.
So
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
coming,
so
you
could
discuss
this
with
us
and
answer
our
questions.
A
The
you
know
it's
a
lot.
So
did
everybody
end
up
with
pages
and
pages
of
questions
yeah,
so
I
was
trying
to
say
if
we
just
go
through
this.
Just
like
have
everybody
list
their
questions
on
like
page
by
page
and
then
let
staff
address
it
all
at
once.
Instead
of
nitpicking
you
as
we
go
down
the
road
just
kind
of,
let
everybody
ask
their
questions.
Does
that
sound
fair?
Because
it's
a
lot?
A
B
C
C
It's
a
question
this
might
be
tom,
do
just
reading
through
it
do
we
need
a
definition
of
what
motorized
is,
and
I
don't
know
that
for
sure,
if
we
do
or
don't
but
to
avoid
having
to
go
through
saying
gas
or
electric
I
mean.
Who
knows
maybe
there's
going
to
be
solar,
you
know
just
cover
it
all
any
kind
of
motorized.
C
B
Did
you
happen
to
notice
whether
motor
was
anywhere
else
in
the
document
on
page
two,
it
mentions
h2
vehicle,
it
says
vehicle,
electric
or
gas.
That's
in
addition,
yeah,
that's
what
I
was
starting
with.
Is
there
any
other
place
in
it,
because
if
there's
no
other
place
that
it's
referred
motor
is
referred
to,
I
would
just
say
that
we
add
in
right
there,
the
word
solar,
so
electric
gas
or
solar.
B
A
C
C
H
C
F
A
And
we've
already
discussed
a
little
bit,
but
can
you
have
anything
on
page
two?
No,
no!
Anybody
down
the
line.
I
don't
page
two.
No!
I
didn't
either
okay
page
three.
F
Nothing
I
did.
I
had
a
question.
Okay,
let's
see
here:
okay,
yeah,
so
number
three
there
we
were
talking
about.
Oh,
I
was
talking.
We
were
talking
about
the
drones
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
we're
going
to
have
signage.
That
says,
if
there's
signage,
that
says
where
drones
are
allowed.
I
I
know
there's
been
questions
about
signage
and
all
the
rules
and
everything
and
we
don't
have
goals
for
every
particular
rule
that
applies
to
every
particular
party-
would
just
be
too
many,
but
we
have
we
don't
right
now
had
any
areas
that
are
designated
as
drone
areas.
It's
something
that
we
could
initiate,
as
I
know
that
we
have
them
at
sheffield
park
from
time
to
time,
but
there's
no
rules
that
say
that
cannot
fly
or
can
fly.
F
I
A
Are
mentioned,
it's.
I
F
Which
I
think
it
is
good
to
limit
drones,
you
don't
want
people
at
the
beach
or
having
a
picnic.
You
don't
want
someone
hovering
a
drone
around,
but
but
I've
been
riding
my
bike
through
sheffield
park
and
sometimes
there's
people
with
drones
and
they
don't
know
if
it's
alright
or
not
allowed.
Technically,
I
guess
it's
not
once
this
takes
effect.
This.
F
In
fact,
chip
in
general,
I
know
you
said
that
you
got
some
this
language
from
other
area
cities
around
here
right,
so
I
was
curious
for
some
of
these.
You
know
why
we,
why
you
at
edit
them
is
it
because
you
just
want
to
have
them
on
the
books
in
case
you
need
to
enforce
them,
or
are
these
problems
that
we've
had
that
you
want
to
address.
I
Issues
that
we
had
seen
that
we
want
to
address
like,
for
example,
specific
uses
for
say
sports
activities
in
a
park,
so
we
don't
want
football
teams
playing
a
game
in
ariel's
park.
It's
not
meant
for
that
type
of
activity.
It's
meant
for
the
sports
complex,
so
that
does
get
addressed
in
some
of
the
language
that
we've
added
that
wasn't
there
before
and
then
some
of
the
other
ones.
When
we
went
through
there
was
five
different
cities
that
we
looked
at.
I
It
was
safety,
harbor,
dunedin,
largo
and
clearwater,
and
then
also
the
drone
language
came
from
the
town
of
palm
beach.
We
couldn't
really
find
anything
locally,
so
we
just
kind
of
researched
it
a
little
bit.
So
you
know
some
of
those
we
when
we
read
through
wow,
okay,
maybe
that's
something
that
we
should
have
not
necessarily
a
problem
but
like,
as
you
know,
the
directors
and
supervisors
of
the
parks
were
like
okay
yeah.
I
I
You
know
I
just
okay,
you
know
there
hasn't
really
been
a
problem,
but
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
address,
because
we
could
see
a
potential
problem
from
something
like
that
if
somebody
were
to
get
bit
or
something
on
the
pier
because
it's
closed
in
and
the
dog
uses
the
bathroom
on
the
pier
or
something
like
that,
it's
in
the
water
yeah.
So
so,
some
of
those
for
various
reasons.
F
I
I
Yes,
yes,
so
after
we
reviewed
so
the
four
staff
members
that
were
part
of
the
team,
each
reviewed
made
notes
that
okay,
this
is
something
we
discussed
it
at
the
table
said
yeah.
Let's
include
it
now.
We
don't
really
need
to
include
it.
For
example,
the
number
two
there
was
never
anything.
The
black
area
above
is
all
that
we
had
before
the
black
text
number
two,
the
use
of
golf
or
golf
balls
or
clubs
within
certain
parts
that
makes
sense
to
us.
We
don't
want
people
hitting
golf
balls
at
arials.
I
E
A
Like
you
know,
stones,
arrows,
javelins
yeah,
I
kind
of
get
that
shuttle,
but
frisbees
somebody
can't
go
to
the
park
and
throw
a
frisbee
a
model
airplane.
You
know
here's
drone
again,
except
in
an
area
specifically
designated
by
the
director
as
suitable
for
such
activity-
and
you
know
I
just
I
feel
like
parks
are
supposed
to
be
places
where
people
can
go
play.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
open
green
space,
so
veterans
park
there's
great
open
space.
A
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
it's
not
meant
to
be
super
restricted,
but
I
think
it
does
give
the
latitude
for
us
to
say.
Okay
again,
we
don't
want
a
team
out
here.
If
we
see
a
dad
and
a
son
throwing
a
ball
around
we're,
not
gonna,
say
hey,
you
can't
do
that,
but
if
there's
we
had
an
incident
with
a
baseball
team
that
was
out
there
about
six
months
ago,
utilizing
the
park
for
baseball
practice.
They
were
actually
projecting
balls
over
shore
drive
with
a
pitching
machine
into
the
park,
so
the
kids
could
catch
fly.
D
A
G
Maybe
actually
something
a
little
more
vague
that
kind
of
a
I
think,
a
period
right
after
no
person
or
person
shall
engage
in
any
rough
or
potentially
dangerous
games
period.
A
Or
practice
I
mean
the
team
practice
makes
sense
or
you
don't
want
teams
showing
up
to
practice
right
and
I
think
people
could
very
easily
differentiate.
A
I
A
H
To
the
park
frisbee
just
meaning
yeah,
if
I
mean
you
know
when
you
see
it
kind
of
thing,
so
if
it's,
if
it's
a
tackle
football
practice
and
nobody
gave
leisure
services,
a
heads
up,
they'd
be
allowed
to
go
to
them
and
say:
hey.
We
have
the
discretion
to
break
this
up.
You
guys
aren't
supposed
to
be
here
or
you
should
have
called
us
ahead
of
time.
If
it's,
you
know,
six
or
eight
kids
playing
two-hand
touch
or
tackle
in
the
grass
that
sort
of
thing
right
nobody's
going
to
care
right.
H
H
A
F
G
Actually,
what
what
caught
my
eye
on
four
and
five
is
four
says
as
designated
by
the
director
and
then
five
says
at
the
end
by
the
department
director
or
his
or
her
designee
it
just
it
doesn't
seem
consistent.
You
know
if
it
should
be
the
director
and
or
his
designee,
that
should
be
a
consistent
language
throughout
yeah.
I
That's
probably
an
oversight
with
everything
that
we
went
through
yeah
now
for
number
five
to
clarify
number
five:
we
don't
want
golf
park,
golf
carts
just
driving
through
the
parks
they're
not
designed
to
have
that
kind
of
activity.
So
you
can
ride
a
bike.
If
you
you
know
it's,
it's
there's
a
difference
between
the
different
activities.
So
when
we
have
some
when
we
have
our
sunset
sounds
and
we
have
the
moves
in
the
park,
we
are
going
to
allow
golf
carts
into
the
park
they
park
on
the
grass.
A
You
know
roller
skates
and
golf
carts.
You
know
again
yeah
javelin
with
a
ball,
so
you
know
I
just
don't
want
people
to
feel
like
they
can't
bring
their
little
kid
in
their
roller
skates
to
go
roller
skate
through
the
park.
I
G
I
F
A
A
C
H
And
chip
is
there
going
to
be
or
are
there
any
designated
areas,
or
this
is
a
for
these
types
of
activities
or
mobilized
yeah?
I
mean
because
it
says
at
the
end
accepting
those
areas
approved
by
department,
director
or
his
or
her
design.
I
H
H
Different
things,
okay,
I
want
to
take
my
kids
out.
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
doing
this
right.
Where
do
I
go
and
the
answer's
going
to
be
nowhere?
I
just
want.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
even
narrow
it
down
even
further,
but
I
guess
you
could
always
potentially
designate
some
place
for
it
in
the
future.
I
mean
I
don't
know
when
we
touch
this
one
again,
so
would
there
be
a
specific
park
where
hey
you
can
use
it
here
ever
right
into
perpetuity?
I
have
no
idea.
I
Yeah,
I'd
have
to
think
about
that
because
the
the
paths
throughout
the
parks-
and
you
have
various
number
types
of
people
who
are
walking
them.
You
have
families,
you
have
elderly
couples,
you
have
kids
running
around
and
when
you
throw
that
motorized
component
into
it
right,
you
know
you're
the
person
who's
riding
it
is
looking
around
and
the
kids
who
are
running
around
aren't
looking.
You
know
anywhere.
H
H
A
At
this
point,
no
right
a
scooter,
motorized
a
golf
cart,
no
in
any
park
unless
an
event.
A
Time,
that's
not
at
place
so
so
I'm
just
so
golf
cart,
motorized
skateboard,
because
I
have
those
now
and
motorized
scooters.
I've
not
seen
motorized
skates,
but
we
do
have
hoverboards
and
the
hoverboards
aren't
listed
here.
F
There's
still
a
lot
to
roller
skate
in
the
park
with
you
know,
just
regular
old-fashioned
roller
skates.
They
can
do
that
on
the
sidewalk
or
not
really.
A
Okay,
so
so
we're
talking
about
two
different,
actually
three
different
things
here:
we've
got
no
motorized,
skateboards
skates,
hoverboards
scooters,
golf
carts
or
any
similar
motorized
device
is
not
allowed
in
any
park.
Those
are
prohibited
in
any
park.
Is
that
a
true
statement
according
to
this?
According
to
this?
According
to
this,
what
is
it
now?
Is
there
another
course?
A
So
this
will
be
new
right
so,
and
it
is
your
intent,
then
that
there
would
be
no
motorized
vehicles
allowed
in
any
park
at
any
time.
I'm
not
talking
about
golf
carts
for
the
thing
I'm
just
talking
about
any
other
time.
So
what
we
want
to
be
able
to
tell
citizens
is,
you
may
not
have
a
motorized
play
vehicle
in
any
park
at
any
time.
So
that's
what
that
needs
to
say.
H
Do
we
start
it
as
unless
otherwise
approved
by
the
department
director
of
starting
it
with
no
person
saying
unless
otherwise
approved
by
the
department
director
his
or
her?
Does
he
need
no
person
and
then
take
out
or
manually
list
those
things
out,
and
then
that
gives
the
leeway
of
you
can't
use
them
in
any
park
unless
chip
says
it's
okay
and
he's
never
going
to
unless
it's
golf
carts
for
the
sunset
sounds.
H
Right,
it's
chip,
yeah,
I
don't
know
he's
always
responsive
to
me.
I
mean
send
him
an
email.
He
writes
me
right
back,
but
I
think
that
would
be.
C
A
Do
you
have
instances
where
you
have
kids
who
ride
their
motorized
scooter
to
practice
or
to
any
activity
in
a
park,
because
that
is
a
transportation
for
a
young
person
is
to
hop
on
their
little?
You
know
those
little
scooters
now
that
have
small
little
motors
and
that's
it's
actually
transportation
for
them.
So
we're
saying
they
can't
ride
that
scooter
to
tennis
practice
or
to
their
south
their
baseball
game.
E
I
And
that
was
more
or
less
the
sidewalks
and
the
trails
that
run
through
the
park,
not
necessarily
the
parking
or
driveway
like,
for
example,
tennis.
If
you're
going
to
play
at
sheffield
park,
you
come
down
to
the
road.
You
come
into
the
parking
lot
and
then
there's
the
tennis
court.
But
we
wouldn't
want
you
to
go
to
the
baseball
field
by
pulling
into
the
trail
area
and
then
zipping
down
on
the
trail
right.
A
A
The
wording
of
these
things
is
always
so
important.
I
mean
really
that
the
the
devil's
in
the
details,
because
it's
going
to
be
somebody
who
shows
up
at
ken's
meeting
and
complains
that
their
kid
can't
ride
their
scooter
to
practice
and
that's
their
transportation.
No,
we
don't.
We
don't
want
to
inhibit
somebody.
F
A
A
Right,
it's
a
park
right,
it's
a
park
and
again
we're
back
to
javelins
and
and
the
wiffle
balls.
I
mean:
how
do
you
get
people
to
be
reasonable
and
safe,
while
allowing
for
a
park
to
be
leisure
and
exercise,
which
is
what
these
things
are
yeah,
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
like
right,
this
very
second,
how
we
word
that,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
maybe
revisiting
the
wording
on
this,
because
it's
a
lot
of
new
regulation
for
people
who
use
parks-
and
it's
probably.
A
C
Or
something
so
that
it's
not
so
you
can't
do
any
of
it
any
at
any
time
ever.
You
know
right,
there's
going
to
be
judgment,
call
no
matter
what.
So,
if
you
use
a
judgment,
word
somebody
who's
policing,
it
can
say:
hey.
We've
had
several
complaints,
that's
usually
where
it's
going
to
come
from,
or
police
cruising
by
whoa
there's
like
14
kids
on
powered
somethings,
ripping
around
the
trails.
Now
we
got
to
put
a
stop
to
that
right.
C
A
And
I
also
at
the
leisure
services
advisory
committee,
there
wasn't
a
quorum
at
the
last
meeting
and
so
that
citizen
panel
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
review
any
of
these
changes
at
all.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
too
so
we're
the
citizens.
You
know
we're
the
ones
looking
at
this
and
and
asking
those
those
hard
questions,
and
then
I'm
not
comfortable
with
the
wording.
I
mean
just
me
personally.
I
would
like
to
massage
this.
A
I
mean:
have
the
staff
go
back
and
maybe
reword
this,
because
just
throwing
suggestions
out-
and
you
know,
tom's
trying
to
figure
out
what
it
is.
We
really
want
to
say
and
I
I'd
prefer
like
we
did
with
public
art,
where
we
just
have
well-crafted
language
that
we
just
submit,
and
so
we
might
need
to
take
another
look
at
this
and
do
another
round
to
get
it
right.
I
think
it's
important.
I
think
one
of
the
most
important
things
we
do
as
a
city
is
how
we
manage
our
parks.
A
D
A
A
You
know,
and
actually
I'm
sorry
going
back
to
hd.
I
just
had
a
there's,
a
grammatical
change.
I
want
to
make
at
the
very
top
line
while
using
any
park.
It
is
the
responsibility
of
visitors,
so
delete
each
visitors
to
conduct
their
activities.
I
just
needed
those
to
agree
and
then
there
needs
to
be
a
colon
at
the
end
of
that
paragraph.
E
Okay,
one
quick
question
about
three:
before
we
move
on
when
you
did
three,
you
got
modern
airplane
or
drone,
but
you
left
out
like
rc
cars
model
cars.
Was
there
a
reason
for
that
or
was
it
just
aerial
type
stuff?
You
wanted
to
prevent.
I
E
A
A
A
H
A
So
my
my
first
question
under
a
was,
it
says
there
would
be
operating
hours
posted
and
my
question
was
posted.
Where.
I
Yeah
this
is
new
proposed
because
right
now
it
says
all
city
that
the
original
language
was
our
remaining
city
park
shall
be
open
from
the
hours
of
8
a.m
to
8
p.m.
I
know
we've
all
seen
people
at
rio's
park
in
summer
time
after
8
o'clock
in
the
evening.
It's
just
it's
not
consistent
with
what
the
activity
is
taking
place.
There.
I
A
Part
and
then
I'm
sorry,
I
just
kind
of
took
over
I'll,
just
go
down
mine
and
then
I'll,
throw
it
out
to
everybody
else.
C
A
There
was
a
note
here
to
ask
tom
about
letter
a
subsection,
a
and
I'm
guessing
that's
in
regard
to
current
or
recent
discussions
about
use
of
gender.
Specific
restrooms
is
that
what
this
is
for
right?
Is
that
and
then
my
question
on
top
of
that
is,
you
know:
are
there
family
style,
restrooms,
handicap
restrooms,
so
that
you
know
you?
You
oftentimes
will
have
a
handicapped
child
and
a
different
gendered
parent
who
has
to
take
that
child
into
and
it
may
not
be
a
wheelchair
child.
A
F
I
know
the
last
meeting
we
were
seeing
letter
d
where
it
says
you
can't
can't
undress
in
the
toilet,
meaning,
so
you
can't
go
into
the
stall
and
change
out
your
bathing
suit
and
put
on
your
t-shirt.
I
Yeah
we
watched
the
the
last
meeting
and
some
of
the
discussion
that
went
around
and
I
think
it
was
I
think
tom
mentioned
it
was
more
or
less
exposure
is
what
we're
trying
to
mimic
from
that.
So
you
know-
and
I
saw
the
comments
you
know
if
you
go
to
sports
complex
and
you're,
changing
and
you're,
not
in
a
stall.
Is
that
illegal
that
wasn't
the
intent
of
it?
I
There
was
more
or
less
an
exposure
thing,
so
a
child
doesn't
walk
in
and
there's
a
grown
man
just
changing
in
the
bathroom
and
it's
like
whoa,
you
know
or
whatever,
so
so
that
was
kind
of
the
idea
behind.
That
is
why
we
put
that
in
there,
and
that
was
yeah,
that
one
came
from
clearwater,
so
that
was
one.
A
Exactly
you
want
in
a
private
stall
right,
changing
clothes
is
allowed,
but
in
a
private
stall.
Only
if
you
seem
to
be
specific
because,
especially
at
the
spray
park
I
mean
yeah,
I
think
it
would
be
unfair
to
tell
a
parent.
They
can't
use
the
restroom
to
change
their
child's
clothes
after
playing
in
the
spray
park
right.
A
No
person
shall
dress
or
undress
in
any
vehicle
or
out
in
the
or
out
in
out
in
the
open,
because
it
says
on
the
beach,
so
it's
kind
of
like
you've
got
this
vehicle
and
beach
like
okay.
So
we
want
to
say
you
cannot
change
in
open
view
in
your
vehicle
or
on
the
beach
and
then
in
using
the
private
restrooms.
You
must
be
changing
in
a
stall.
You
can't
be
changing
out
in
the
open
in
the
restroom.
Obviously
more
succinctly
said
than
that,
but
that's
what
we're
saying
right.
A
C
A
C
On
4238
sub
e,
it
strikes
me
as
redundant
to
the
last
sentence
in
4237
a
last
sentence,
and
maybe
it
should
be
restated,
but
it
just
looks
like
it
says:
almost
the
exact
same
thing
in
principle:
no
person
selling
or
remaining
park
property
at
any
time
other
than
officially
posted
hours
of
normal
park
operation,
except
by
written
permission
from
the
director
and
then
up
above
in
a
4237a,
it
says,
is
unlawful,
for
any
person
do
nrb
in
any
park
before
it
is
open
or
after
it
is
closed.
C
H
I
A
H
H
A
H
But
if
it
goes
beyond,
you
know
it
again,
I
know
it
when
I
see
it
kind
of
thing,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
get
to
see
whoever
is
yelling
at
you.
It's
would
call
you
the
moral
police,
the
way
that
it's
written,
that
would
actually
be
appropriate.
A
I
didn't
have
any
questions
about
page
five,
anybody
anybody!
I
did.
A
Okay
on
to
page
six,
I
was
looking
at
number
five
and
I'm
talking
about
we're
prohibiting
the
climbing
on
buildings,
offenses
structures,
historic
markers,
boardwalk
railing,
and
I
thought
we
needed
to
add
statues,
because
there
are
some
lovely
statues
in
the
park
and
public
art.
I
thought
we
needed
to
add
those
too
number
five
at
the
top
of
the
page.
A
Is
everybody?
Okay
with
adding
those
yeah?
I
like
that
yeah
yeah,
it's
good
and
then
my
other
question
was
looking
at
under
under
section
b
number
two
about
not
attaching
any
rope
to
a
tree.
Are
we
against
hammocks?
A
A
A
C
B
Alexis
wells
assistant,
director,
leisure
services
and
reference
to
the
hammocks
as
a
certified
arborist,
I
have
a
cab
or
trees
if
a
hammock
depends
on
what's
used
around
the
tree.
If
this
should
slide
it's
going
to
tear
the
bark
it's
going
to
tear
the
cambium
and
that
can
that
can
be
deteriorate,
the
quality
of
the
tree.
So
therefore,
that's
what
we're
saying
in
the
hammocks.
A
Anybody
else
have
any
comments
to
page
six.
This
is
all
new
all
new
language.
On
number.
Six
that
I
didn't,
I
just
I
didn't
see
any.
G
Issues
with
it,
I
thought
on
subsection
c
number
one
I
actually,
I
really
liked
the
sentence
of
no
person
shall
remove
the
eggs
nest
or
young
of
any
wildlife.
I
think
that's
really
important
to
lay
out
because
people
think
oh
look,
there's
this.
You
know
bird
egg,
I'm
gonna,
take
it
home
and
try
and
hatch
it.
No,
we
don't
want
you
to
do
that.
Leave
the
bird
egg
alone.
A
I
I
think
if
you
look
in
the
top
part
where
the
strikethroughs
are,
there
are
references
to
some
of
what
you
see
in
the
recommended
revision
there
in
the
blue
area,
and
we
don't
have
signs
at
the
beach
that
say
no
person
shall
dig
move
or
remove
from
anything
out
there.
It
just
gives
us
the
ability
that,
if
somebody's
out
there
doing
something
that
you
don't
feel
is
conducive
or
right,
which
doesn't
happen
that
often
like
that,
but
it
gives
us
the
ability.
I'm
sorry,
you
can't
do
this
here.
A
Maybe
there's
an
opportunity
to
get
a
grant
to
do
like
some
special,
like
the
county
has
really
great
big
signs
where
they
describe
the
wildlife,
that's
in
the
area,
and
it
gives
some
of
those
tips
on
why
you
don't
touch
it
and
it's
educational
in
nature.
Maybe
there's
some
grants
to
do
that?
Sort
of
educational
signage,
because
it's
it's
part
of
the
process
of
enjoying
nature,
but
also
understanding.
Why
we're
asking
you
not
to
touch
the
trees
or
the
animals.
E
E
Under
c1
wildlife
number
one,
the
third
line
from
the
bottom
shall
not
apply
to
d
minimus
connection.
I
just
don't
know
what
d
minimus
is.
No.
Is
that
just
my
number
of
shells?
Okay,.
H
A
Okay,
so
if
everybody's
good,
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
page
page
seven
so
letter
d,
we
can't
walk
a
dog
down
on
the
pier,
and
this
is
this
is
one
of
the
items
we
talked
about
last
time
was.
Is
this?
Is
this
a
change
I
mean?
Is
this
a
problem
because
people
are
walking
their
dogs
out
there.
I
Technically
right
now,
dogs
aren't
permitted
in
parks
unless
they're
in
a
designated
area,
so
they
wouldn't
be
allowed
on
the
pier.
As
of
now,
because
technically
our
wheels
park
is
not
designated
as
a
dog
area
with
a
leash.
So
the
idea
behind
that
one
was
that
the
pier
is
such
a
small
confined
area.
If
you
have
somebody
who's
afraid
of
dogs
and
somebody
walks
the
dog
out
to
the
end
of
the
pier
that
person's
essentially
trapped
right.
So
it
kind
of
just
minimizes
that
interaction
taking
place.
I
A
A
So,
as
I
read
this,
the
the
one
thing
that
popped
out
in
my
mind,
is
and
I'm
sure,
there's
a
mechanism
for
managing
this.
But
when
you're
you
know,
if
you're
going
to
do
say
something
like
a
a
farmer's
market
or
a
you
know,
a
kids
stay
in
the
park
where
somebody's
going
to
come
in
and
they're
going
to
have
vendors
that
each
individual
vendor
doesn't
have
to
get
a
permit.
That
it
would
be
that
there's
a
mechanism
that
you
do
that
through
your
planner.
I
That
company
right,
for
example,
ultimate
days
and
nights
they
come
to
us,
they
fill
out
one
special
event.
Permit
they
go
out
and
they
solicit
their
vendors.
It
falls
under
their
permit.
C
A
And
then
I
had
another
note
on
here,
so
we're
saying
that
the
little
league
can't
sell
t-shirts
on
the
park
property
if
they're
doing
it
as
a
fundraiser
for
their
little
league.
I
A
Those
are
my
questions.
Anybody
on
else
on
page
eight
nope
all
right.
Moving
on
to
page
nine,
this
was
another
section
we
had
discussion
on
and
it
was
my
question
under
a
vehicles,
no
signage
and-
and
my
scenario
is
you
know,
I
have
a
work
vehicle
and
it
has
signage
on
it
and
I'm
coming
to
the
park
to
play
with
my
kid
to
go
to
a
game,
I'm
there
to
use
the
park,
but
my
vehicle
that
I
drive
personally
has
some
kind
of
wrap
or
signage
or
decal
on
the
back
window.
A
I
We
we
obviously
took
this
from
another
municipality,
and
I
think
it
was
maybe
steve
who
had
said
it's
the
purpose
or
intent
of
why
you're
visiting
the
park,
if
you're
going
there
for
to
play
tennis
or
walk
your
dog
or
play
baseball
or
whatever
that's
the
intent
is
not
to
advertise
you're
just
going
to
go
to
parks
and
go
to
the
activity,
and
I
think
in
that
line
versus
no
person
or
entity
shall
place
or
station
any
vehicle
to
me.
I
I
C
G
A
A
You're
there,
so
it's
that
gray
area
again
that
makes
it
hard
to
do.
How
do
you
judge
somebody's
intention?
Well,
I
could
be
there
for
a
game,
but
then
somebody
says:
oh,
you
know
what
I
really
need
whatever
it
is
that
you
do,
and
you
know
I
know
right,
I
know
yeah.
So
it's
just
it's
great
area.
It's.
I
A
A
Number
ten:
okay:
I've
got
lots
of
scribbles
on
this.
E
A
So,
under
b,
at
the
top
of
the
page,
I
just
thought
we
should
add
magazines
and
bloggers,
because
that
not
everybody's
a
newspaper
anymore
or.
A
A
Well,
it's
differentiating
that
you
need
written
permission
to
come
in
and
take
pictures,
but
then,
according
to
you,
know,
free
press
if
you're
a
if
you're,
with
a
bona
fide
newspaper
or
press
association
that
you
can
come
in
and
you
can
take
pictures
in
the
park
and
I
just
wanted
to
add-
because
bloggers
and
new
media
and
yeah
magazines
we
need
to
take
pictures
too.
You
know
we're
there
to
do
articles
and
stories
like
a
newspaper,
so
I
just
wanted
to
add
those.
H
A
Is
new
media
is
new
media.
They
are
given
the
same.
H
I
just
like
it
was
like.
I
just
imagine,
because
we
always
do
worst
case
scenario
when
we're
having
our
discussions,
but
it's
like
you
can't
take
pictures
here.
It's
like
unless
you're
a
blogger,
and
so
I
just
turn
around
like
here.
I
just
started
yeah,
I'm
gonna
go,
take
pictures
like
it
just
it
would
never
happen,
but
that's
what's
going
on
in
my
house
right
legally.
A
But
yes,
okay,
the
okay,
so
moving
down
to
section
4246.
A
I
just
I
had
some
just
some
words
I
wanted
to
add
in
maybe
for
clarification.
Under
a
you
know,
it
mentions
political
party,
religious
sect,
musical
group
office
aspirant.
I
liked
that
aspirant,
theatrical
or
circus
group
coming
to
hold
an
exhibition
or
a
meeting.
I
So
that
was
public
exhibition
shall
hold
or
attempt
to
hold
any
meeting
perform
any
rally
or
ceremonies
that
was
in
that
area.
A
Self-Propelled
vehicles
again:
okay,
number
12-
I
didn't
have
any
comments
there
either.
G
And
4292
section
c:
I'm
wondering
if
there's
anything
about
maybe
adding
provisions
to
not
leave
animals
in
hot
cars,
because
it
says
no,
no
person
shall
have
permitted
to
have
any
dog
cat
or
other
domestic
animal
in
designated
park
areas.
How
about
in
parking
lots?
I
Yeah,
I
think
the
attempt
was
that
is,
if
you're,
if
you
have,
if
you're
in
the
vehicle
with
your
pet,
that's
okay
you're
in
the
parking
lot,
it
doesn't
have
a
leash
or
whatever
you
find.
You
can
be
there
with
that,
but
you
know
the
intense
not
to
lock
them
in
the
car
and
leave
in
there.
That's
for
sure.
G
C
F
F
A
F
A
H
Yeah
and
see
if,
if
there's
a
statute
that
can
be
referenced,
I'm
going
to
change
the
language
here
and
then,
if
there's
a
there's,
a
florida
statute
or
other
rule
that
we
can
find
okay.
B
I
Areas
like,
for
example,
right
along
shore
drive
at
the
west
end
of
shore
drive,
there's
a
sign
that
says
dog
area
permit
new
dogs
burn
in
this
area
and
there's
one
at
the
beach
it's
on
the
north
side
of
the
road
area
there
that
says
designated
pet
area,
but
outside
of
that
the
other
parts
of
the
parks
are
not
permitted,
except
for
the
dog
parks
which
are
designated
as
dog
parks
and
off-leash.
Dog
parks.
B
So
now
dogs
are
going
to
be
permitted
leashed
on
recently
and,
as
you
know,
you
use
sheffield
park.
There's
tons
of
dogs
running
through
there
unleashed.
Currently
I
mean
with
the
changes
who
enforces
that.
I
I
A
A
The
new
paragraph,
a
so
absolutely
no
toy
guns,
except
for
water
guns,
and
I
just
was
there
any
consideration
given
to
the
nerf
guns,
because
that
is
a
very
popular
thing.
Right
now
for
birthday,
parties
is
for
kids
to
go
out
and
have
nerf
gun
battles,
so
our
nerf
guns
or
where
would
what
was
your
thoughts
about
nerf
guns,.
A
So,
are
we
okay
with
saying
that
water
guns
and
nerf
guns
can
be
used
on
park
property.
A
A
H
C
A
D
G
I
just
thought
at
the
top
of
I'm
sorry:
15
year
old,
yeah
we're
on
page
15.
It
starts
with
age
15
a
I
thought
it
was
a
little
wordy,
because
this
is
no
person
regardless
of
age,
sex
or
manner
of
dress.
I'm
thinking
just
no
person
take
out
the
regardless
shall
sim,
etc.
Just
seems
a
bit
of
a
wordy
sentence
and
wondering
why
it's
necessary.
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
Questions
we're
rolling.
Now
everybody
wants
to
go
home
next,
19
operation
of
aircraft,
camping,
horseback
riding,
so
horseback
riding
there
used
to
be
horseback
riding,
but
now
there's
not.
G
H
Really,
certainly
in
the
covet
era,
but
I
mean
there's
enough
leeway
in
here
that
if
that
was
the
case
because
it
would
have
to
be
approved
by
the
city
manager,
I
think
is
what
it
says.
Correct.
G
Actually,
that
was
my
question
on
42-119
a
it
says:
no
person
shall
engage
but
from
the
city
manager.
H
Yeah,
I
remember
because
the
mayor
had
gone
to
and
seen
a
tour
to
equestrian
park
or
something
like
that
and
brought
the
idea
back
to
everybody
at
the
council
was
just
like,
let's
just
think
about
it
down
the
road,
because
when
I
saw
that
I
was
like
that's
strange
that
it
would,
there
would
be
the
prohibition
because
they
were
just
talking
about
it.
However,
many
months
ago,
like
you
had
said,
okay.
C
G
A
I
This
was
this:
one
came
from
largo,
it.
G
Seemed
like
my
how
I
read
it
was,
I
felt
like
it
was
basically
to
discourage
homeless
persons
from
erecting
temporary
living
facilities
in
parks.
F
I
I
think
just
to
make
note
that
that
is
they
are.
There
are
certain
rules
and
regulations
that
pertain
to
special
events,
that
kind
of
gives
us
its
own
section.
In
a
sense,
I
think,
because
of
the
type
of
activities
that
we
have
and
the
type
of
activities
people
may
want
to
do,
and
it
just
kind
of
gives
them
some
guidance
saying
that
you
can't
participate
in
form
or
start
any
kind
of,
especially
without
previous
written
acknowledgement,
and
because
we
have
a
review
process
for
those
events
that
involve
multiple.
A
There,
okay,
anybody
do.
I
have
to
speak
up
loud,
I'm
just
gonna
next
page
22,.
A
A
To
say
no
smoking
at
the
athletic
fields
right
and
there's
no
smoking
on
any
playground
or
fitness
zone
and
then
other
posted
area.
A
I
Didn't
it's
a
very
touchy
situation?
It's
a
polarizing
topic,
so
we
didn't.
This
was
kind
of
a
recommendation
from
us
to
you
to
get
started
with
to
say,
hey
that
this
is
what
we're
recommending
because
of
the
activities
that
take
place.
Kids
in
the
playground,
people
working
out
of
the
fitness
zone,
the
ball
fields
where
children
are
or
the
adults
are
playing.
You
know,
so
this
was
kind
of
like
okay.
C
Good
point
structure,
or
is
it
not
a
structure.
C
I
A
A
H
I
We
did
we
went
back
and
forth
on
that
because
I
we
just
really
didn't,
have
any
guidance
on
it.
In
a
sense,
it
was
kind
of
bringing
to
you
guys
to
kind
of
discuss
as
well.
The
reason
with
the
you
know
the
smoking
secondhand
smoke
and
then
vaping.
I
A
A
I
I
H
H
Kind
of
like
saying
every
person,
regardless
of
it's
just
every
person,
so
if
it's
just
littering,
you
wouldn't
think
to
say
all
littering,
I
wouldn't
imagine,
can
you
you
mind
repeating
that,
so
I
can
sure
right
before
that
blue
sentence.
It
says
such
receptacles
may
be
so
used
only
by
those
using
a
park
for
recreational
or
park
activities
period.
The
littering
is
prohibited.
A
All
right
22,
are
we
good
and
then
the
last
page
23?
I
didn't
have
any
additional
comments
other
than
that
the
drone
section
seems
to
conflict
with
the
earlier
section
that
we're
going
to
look
at
rewarding
anyway,
but.
I
I
An
opportunity
to
you
know,
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
things
that,
whether
we
see
them
on
a
day-to-day
basis
or
things
that
we've
heard
that
happen
at
other
parks
and
and
places
around
the
area
in
the
country
and
saying
okay,
that
kind
of
makes
sense
and
throw
that
to
you
guys
and
say
hey.
What
do
you
think
about
this?
Does
this
make
sense
to
you
so
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
work
on
it?
It
was
it's
very
eye-opening.
I
appreciate
what
you
guys
do.
A
D
You
saying
how
do
we
make
those
changes
like
there
were
still
some
questions
on
some
of
the
wording
and
stuff
like
that,
so
that
maybe
we
can
just
go
with
staff
recommendations
to
add
to
the
draft
report
and
bring
that
back
rather
than
come
back
with
a
few
little
bits
and
pieces
at
another
meeting.
B
A
Okay,
I
just
I
didn't-
want
to
drag
everybody
back
again,
but
I
also
felt
like
some
time
needed
to
be
spent
to
wordsmith
some
of
that
on
page
three
before
you
know
turning
it
over.
So
just
how
we
need
to
go
about
getting
this
in
a
final
form,
so
we
can
have
it
approved
to
move
on
or
well.
I'm
thinking.
D
A
B
Another
couple
of
days
ian
has
already
prepared
the
majority
of
the
report,
and
I
had
made
some
changes
to
the
report
and
there
are
a
couple
other
things
I
need
to
add
to
it
plus
this
stuff.
Tonight
we
need
to
finalize
so
a
couple
more
days
and
we'll
get
it
out
to
you.
D
C
D
Well,
my
recommendation.
The
changes
to
you
right
well,
we'll
work
on
the
changes
together,
tom
I
will,
and
as
long
as
we
can
get
that
report
to
you
I'd
say
in
the
next
week
week
and
a
half,
then
we
should
continue
on
with
an
october
5th
meeting.
If
you
run
into
any
delays
and
we
can
keep
you
updated
and
just
to
give
you
guys
enough
time
to
review
the
what
will
email
to
you,
because
it's
a
lot
and
you
guys
have
done
a
lot
of
hard
work.
D
A
A
A
A
F
So,
for
instance,
when
they
know
that
that
day
of
prayer
do
they
have
to
get
a
permit
for
that
because
it's
not
in
a
park.
It's
just
not
a
public
property.
D
The
national
day
of
prayer
to
this
point
has
not
had
a
permit,
but
they
just
kind
of
work
with
the
city
and
sort
of
you
know
kind
of
allow
them
to
use
the
facility
and
and
yeah,
but
I
don't
recall
any
permitting
process
for
that.
Coordinated.
A
H
A
It
yes,
so
to
take
what
they've
got
for
parks
and-
and
the
only
place
it
really
made
sense
to
me-
was
to
replicate
this
language
with
some
changes,
because
you
have
to
change
park
to
whatever
public
property
we
were
talking
about.
So
some
language
changes
and
moving
that
and
it
looked
like
it
would
fit
in
an
as
a
new
section,
26-41.
A
So
this
is,
it
would
come
under
noises
to
attract
attention.
A
There's
there's
space
to
add
another
section
right
after
that,
where
we
could
take
the
these
two
paragraphs
with
some
changes
and
that
would
specify
like
what
city
property
we
were
talking
about
not
park,
but
roadways
sidewalks.
E
A
You
need
30
days
notice
to
have
an
event.
Residents
who
live
within
something
like
200
feet
have
to
be
no
notified
within,
like
five
days
of
applying
for
that
permit.
So
there
are
some
safeguards
for
residents
to
be
notified.
A
You
know
that
there's
a
process,
then,
if
somebody
were
wanting
to
do
some
type
of
a
demonstration
in
the
city
limits
of
oldsmar
now
that
doesn't
stop
people
from
doing
something
impromptu
without
there
being
you
know,
an
accountable
person
who's
looking
at
setting
up
an
organized
demonstration,
but
at
least
there
would
be
an
ordinance
on
the
books.
That
would
say
you
know
you
can't
gather
here
and.
E
A
A
A
G
E
E
A
E
A
H
E
A
Yeah
I
didn't-
I
didn't
get
calls
back
today
because
it
was
I'd,
been
thinking
about
it
and
then,
when
I
saw
this
in
the
parks
document,
I
thought
well
it's
great
that
we
have
the
language
to
protect
the
parks.
But
what
about
residential
areas
in
the
city
and.
H
You
don't
know
if
it's
addressed
somewhere
else
in
any
way,
and
that's
that's
what
I
mean
where
it's:
okay,
that's
a
really
specific
issue,
and
so
who
would
actually
control
that.
So
does
it
come
from
up
here
from
down
here
from
down
here
from
down
here,
and
would
we
just
be
adding
another
layer
when
it's
already
addressed
somewhere
else,
and
I
just
I
don't
know
the
answer
it
just
so
I
can't
have
much
feedback
on
on
what
to
do
with.
It
is
my
point.
A
E
One
of
the
comment-
it
might
be
a
little
early
for
this,
but
I
think
one
thing
we
should
do
is
leave
a
kind
of
historical
document
for
10
years.
From
now,
when
the
next
orc
comes
together,
just
recommendations,
hey
do
the
long
chapters.
First
there's
some
recommend
just
saying
as
far
as
guidance
is
the
best
practice
speed
that
process
up.
Oh
and
don't
have
a
natural
pandemic
during
the
process.
A
Okay,
so
any
other
discussion
of
previous
chapters
and
throw
that
out
there
again
so
the
next
meeting
october
5th
that's
the
date
we
had.