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Good
evening,
members
of
the
planning
board,
may
I
suggest
that
both
of
those
agenda
items
be
combined
and
just
for
the
sake
to
listen
to
the
public
testimony,
because
many
of
them
will
will
have
relevant
information
for
both.
So
if
I
can
suggest
that
the
city
staff
will
give
one
presentation
and
then
followed
by
testimony
from
the
public,
and
then
you
all
can
discuss
similar
to
what
you
all
did
last
time.
I
I
So
I
thank
you
all
and
I
I
wanted
to
take
a
hope
to
take
a
few
moments
at
the
beginning
of
a
presentation
just
to
add
some
context
before
tatiana
childress
takes
the
helm
so
first
of
all
we're
here
tonight
because
we
made
a
mistake,
so
the
land
development
code,
article
three
states
that
the
planning
board
shall
review
any
proposed
amendment
at
an
advertised
public
hearing
we
advertised
but
the
public,
the
art.
The
advertisement
that
went
to
the
paper
said
public
meeting
instead
of
public
hearing,
and
so
that's
why
we're
back
here
tonight.
I
So
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
and
then
speaking
of
article
three,
I
after
the
last
conversation
that
we
had
that
article
three
is
really
important
to
what
you
all
do.
It
adds
the
powers
to
the
planning
board.
So
that's
article
three.
It
establishes
the
planning
board,
it
states,
I'm
to
just
read
it
to
you.
It
states
that
the
recommendations
from
the
planning
board
to
the
city
council
are
made
after
evaluating
the
technical
review
committee's
recommendations
and
public
testimony.
I
That
was
actually
language
that
was
put
in
our
code
in
1991.,
so
our
land
development
code,
as
you
all
know
it
most
of
you,
I
think
bob
harvey
was
here
prior
to
that
in
1991.
I
went
back
and
looked
the
land
development
codes
before
were
like
this
big.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
one,
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
ever
seen
him.
I
It's
like
this
big
now,
but
in
1991
the
the
city
council
established
the
land
development
code,
as
kind
of
as
we
know
it
today,
and
that
along
came
with
the
the
advisory
powers
of
the
planning
board.
It
was
done
by
in
91
and
ordinance
number
four.
What
I
think
is
interesting.
Every
time
you
go
to
the
code,
which
I
find
particularly
helpful,
is
some
sec
sections
are
amended
on
the
code,
all
the
time
and
under
the
text
it
actually
cites
the
ordinance
number
and
the
date.
I
So
I
think
that
that's
pretty
interesting
when
I
start
looking
at
the
code-
and
I
know
that
you
all
do
so-
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
regarding
the
history
of
downtown
redevelopment
activities,
and
so
I
thought
it
would
be
appropriate
to
share
some
of
the
highlights
kind
of
kind
of.
I
want
to
call
it
downtown
through
the
decades.
So
I'm
going
to
take
a
few
moments
for
for
those
of
you
that
haven't
been
here
for
for
the
last
30
years,
like
mr
harvey,
so
that
we
can.
I
I
So
in
in
the
90s,
the
community
redevelopment
agency,
the
cra
was
established
in
1994..
The
primary
function
of
the
agency
is
the
redevelopment
of
a
designated
geographic
area
also
called
the
town
center.
It
was
actually
created
to
that
recognized
blight
that
was
happening
along
state
street,
so
it
was
created
to
create
a
downtown.
In
1996,
the
city
council
adopted
the
town
center
plan
outlining
the
vision
and
strategies
for
the
town
center
in
1997.
I
The
city
council
adopted
the
town
center
code,
so
here
we
go
in
the
2000s
in
the
2000s.
The
city
started:
acquiring
parcels
to
create
a
downtown
next
to
city
hall
and
along
st
petersburg
drive
in
2006.
A
solicitation
of
developer
interest
and
request
for
qualifications
was
issued
for
the
city
hall
site.
The
request
included
the
desire
to
have
new
urbanism
with
commercial
on
the
first
floor
and
residential
on
the
upper
floor.
So
the
very
high
density
of
474
000
square
feet
of
space
up
to
six
floors.
I
We
actually
selected
a
potential
developer
out
of
that
process,
but
an
agreement
could
not
be
reached
in
2007,
the
oldsmore
public
library
was
completed
in
2009.
A
new
plan
called
the
reo
station,
was
created
and
presented
after
the
previous
efforts
were
not
successful.
I
have
a
couple
of
those
slides
if
you
all
saw
it
at
the
council
meeting
we
shared
about
that.
But
if
you
see
on
the
top
right,
that
was
part
of
old
square.
That
was
one
of
the
origin
plan.
I
I
2012
market
square
was
approved
and
in
2013,
two
requests
for
proposals
were
issued,
a
developer
was
selected,
but
again
we
could
not
reach
an
acceptable
agreement
and
a
park
plaza
was
also
created
at
that
time.
I
think
a
very
important
part
of
our
history,
and
most
of
you
all
were
here
for
this
one.
I
think
in
2016.
I
florida's
center
for
community
design
and
research
at
the
university
of
florida
developed
a
long-range
community
design,
master
plan
for
the
the
cra
and
a
community
vision
plan
for
state
street.
The
process
included,
visioning
work
sessions
and
public
meetings
where
students
presented
their
concepts
resulting
from
those
public
interactions
and
site
visits.
I
Another
plan
called
the
town
center
project
plan
was
created
from
the
results
of
the
2016
efforts
and
the
previous
plans.
The
city
hired
a
a
company
called
stantec
to
do
the
design.
You
guys
probably
remember
that
and
in
2017
the
city
engaged
the
services
of
cbre
cbre
is
the
largest
commercial
real
estate
firm
in
the
world.
That's
what
their
website
says.
I
can't
confirm
that,
but
they
say
they
are
and
to
present
offering
of
memorandum
to
potentially
acquire
and
develop
the
site.
I
I
I
I
So
in
2019
city
council
members,
along
with
members
of
the
community
at
a
public
works
session,
did
another
design
threat,
and
so
they
this
they
came
up
with
this
plan.
We
call
it
the
oldsmar
downtown
sketch
and
some
of
the
highlights
now,
I'm
going
to
just
talk
about
the
last
three
years,
because
I
feel
like
a
lot
went
on
in
the
last
three
years.
So
in
2019
the
council
created
this
town
center
sketch
with
the
input
of
community
development
leaders.
I
The
city
council
reviewed
several
unsolicited
proposals.
I
think
because
there
was
a
new
energy
put
back
into
downtown
at
that
time
and
that
developers
had
their
eye
on.
You
know
our
site,
the
renewed
interest
in
the
and
the
council,
putting
that
as
a
vision.
So
we
received
several
unsolicited
proposals
for
the
development,
including
dfmr,
simone
development,
commonwealth
development
at
a
work
session
and
then
after
they
reviewed
him
on
the
work
session.
I
Two
more
unsolicited
proposals
came
in
from
prime
hospitality
group
and
cohen
realty,
and
I
put
next
to
those
sides
of
whether
or
not
those
are
city
hall
or
library
sites.
So
there
was
a
question
about
whether
or
not
we
can
receive
unsolicited
proposals,
absolutely
there's
nothing
in
the
state
statute
or
in
our
development
code.
That
says
otherwise.
I
So
city
council
reviewed
all
five
of
those
proposals.
They
selected
simone
development
for
the
city
hall
site
to
do
a
hotel,
a
boutique
hotel
and
cone
realty
for
a
limited
service
hotel,
similar
to
the
ones
that
we
have
on
tampa
road
at
the
library
during
19
2019
I
counted.
There
was
a
total
of
nine
public
meetings
and
in
2020
we
received
an
a
another
unsolicited
proposal
from
devon
rushnell,
and
that's
the
davis
views
group
and
negotiations
with
cohen
realty
terminated
dur
because
of
covet
19.
I
The
finances
no
longer
worked
for
him
for
a
limited
service
hotel.
At
that
site.
We
received
a
another
unsolicited
proposal
from
woodfield
development,
for
the
city
hall
site
in
november
and
also
in
2020.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
remember.
I
came
here
and
we
talked
about
a
hotel
density
increase
for
the
the
tccr,
so
you
all
approved
that
it
took
a
while
it
took
about
six
months
or
longer
before
it
got
to
council.
I
So
in
december
that
was
approved
by
council
in
2020
we
had
11
public
meetings
about
downtown,
so
2021
we're
still
in
that
year,
barely
right,
but
in
2021
what
happened?
We
terminated
negotiations
with
simone
development,
not
unusual.
We
didn't
get
an
acceptable
offer.
They
got
pretty
far
down
the
way,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
our
development
agreement
process,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
you
all
to
understand
how
that
works.
I
We
received
two
more
unsolicited
proposals
from
davis
buses,
design
group,
which
is
devin
and
prime
hospitality
group
for
the
city
hall
site.
They
reviewed
three
proposals:
the
city,
council,
davis,
spu's
design,
group,
prime
hospitality,
woodfield
development,
a
work
session
in
february,
then,
in
march,
the
city
council
approved
the
woodfield
concept
plan
and
directed
the
city
manager
to
begin
negotiations
for
the
city
hall
site.
So
I
did
read
some
things
where
there
was.
I
You
know
about
cra
rules
and
was
the
city
following
the
cra
rules,
so
this
is
kind
of
where
some
of
the
cra
rules
come
into
effect.
We
are
governed
by
florida
statute
right
for
the
cra.
Cra
is
developed
locally,
but
still
governed
at
a
state
level.
So,
in
accordance
with
the
cra
florida
statute,
163.380.
I
before
any
disposition
of
real
property
in
a
cra,
you
must
advertise
and
invite
development
proposals
for
that
particular
site.
So
we
did
that
for
both
sites,
but
the
city
advertised
and
invited
development
proposals
for
the
city
hall
site
as
required
by
that
statute.
Following
our
cra
rules
in
march,
we
didn't
get
additional
proposals
at
that
time.
I
did
receive
some
phone
calls,
so
I
know
that
the
development
community
was
looking
for
that
and
then
the
city
council
approved
the
devon
rushnell,
used
concept
plan
and
directed
negotiations
at
that
time.
I
That's
when
we
advertise
and
we
solicit
development
proposals,
and
so
we
advertised
for
that
for
the
library
site
on
may
5th
2021..
No
additional
proposals
were
received
in
may
now
we
have
we.
We
have
two
plans
right,
so
we've
got
the
the
dev
and
russianella
plan
at
the
library
site
and
we
have
the
city
hall
plan
and
a
long
history
of
contemplating
of
what
that
site
should
look
like
with
different
plans,
but
they
all
had
the
same
elements:
residential
commercial
and
public
space
and
parking.
So
the
city
in
in
may.
I
We
procured
calvin
giordano
and
associates,
and
I've
asked
their
representative
louis
cerna
to
be
here
tonight
to
help
us
draft
the
language
for
this
really
important
comp
plan
text
amendment
it's
complicated.
As
you
all
know,
the
process
isn't
easy,
so
we
hired
a
consultant
to
help
us
to
assist
in
the
analysis
of
processing
and
the
code
amendments
and
the
comp
plan.
Amendments
we
with
with
calvin
giordano
and
with
ford
panel
staff,
is
how
the
language
was
crafted.
I
So
we
already
know
that
that
that
language
is
is
suitable,
so
I
wanted
to
shift
over
so
that's
kind
of
the
highlights
of
the
long
history.
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
you
all
and
then
so
what
is
a
development
agreement,
so
a
development
agreement?
You
know
that's
guided
by
our
land
development
code
14.7,
I
put
it
up
there.
It
has
like
a
really
long
list,
and
so
I
highlighted
the
ones
in
red
that
come
to
some
sort
of
public
meeting
where
the
public
can
speak
about
any
development
agreement.
I
So
whether
or
not
that's
up
on
a
private,
owned
property
or
public
owned
property,
it's
the
same
process.
So
the
first
thing
that
is
a
written
request
comes
from
the
property
owner
to
the
city
manager.
The
city
manager
places
an
item
on
the
council
agenda
to
determine
the
desire
to
pursue
negotiations.
So
when
you
see
the
council
approve
negotiations
with
a
developer,
that's
that's
that
step
step
two
and
then
the
city
council
decides
to
pursue
the
negotiation
and
instruct
the
city
manager
to
proceed.
The
city
manager
in
our
code
is
a
negotiating
partner
party.
I
The
property
owner
submits
a
development
proposal,
city
manager
and
staff
review
that
development
proposal.
Then
they
meet
and
they
negotiate
and
they
come
to
some
sort
of
terms
and
conditions
city
manager
determines,
if
there's
a
tentative
agreement
met.
That's
why
you've
seen
like
a
lot
of
proposals
didn't
make
it
all
the
way
through
it's
a
very
detailed
process.
City
manager
purports
the
status
of
the
negotiations
and
to
council
that's
a
requirement.
I
The
essential
terms
of
the
agreement
are
presented
in
outline
form,
city,
council
reviews
and
votes,
and
they
proceed
with
the
creation
of
a
development
agreement.
City
directs.
The
city
council
directs
city
attorney
to
reduce
those
to
a
contractual
form.
All
of
those
are
have
public
meetings.
City
attorney
creates
a
development
agreement,
and
this
should
interest
you
all
is
that,
after
that
happens,
the
city
manager
transmits
the
development
agreement
back
to
the
planning
board
for
a
public
hearing
with
the
city
manager's
written
recommendations.
I
I
We
have
to
record
it
and
submit
it
to
the
state,
but
that's
it
doesn't
end
there
just
because
you
have
a
development
agreement,
we
actually
have
to
see
what's
being
built
and
make
sure
that
it's
built
in
accordance
with
any
development
agreement,
and
you
guys
may
have
been
a
part
of
some
of
the
other
development
agreements.
Anatomy
homes,
bayside
terrace-
was
probably
the
last
big
one
we
did
or
hayes
park.
We
also
have
monitoring
requirements,
so
the
property
owner
submits
a
summary
report.
No
less
than
every
12
months.
I
I
I
So
that's
with
this
incentive,
the
incentive
you
know
is
very-
was
very
carefully
crafted
with
a
consultant
to
provide
an
incentive
that
both
requires
enhanced
processes,
and
I
think
that's
important
to
note
too
and
tatiana
is
going
to
go
through
all
of
the
standards
of
approval
and
kind
of
you
know
the
the
legalistic
part,
but
but
this
this
amendment
requires
a
development
agreement.
That's
extra
on
this
amendment
to
give
extra
surety
to
the
residents
and
also
requires
enhanced
coastal
high
hazard
considerations.
I
So
anybody
who
will
do
a
development
agreement
in
the
text
in
your
packet.
You
can
see
that
it
requires
all
sorts
of
hurricane
evacuation
and
reentry.
That
is
not
standard
language
for
development
agreements.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
in
the
code
for
forever
when
it
comes
to
this
incentive-
and
you
know-
as
I
previously
stated,
that
this
is
separate,
and
I
said
this
last
time-
I
was
here
that
this
is
separate
from
the
woodfield
proposal.
I
hope
that
this
helped
clarify
why
it's
separate
all
right.
I
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
all
clearly
understood
that
while
the
processes
are
moving
concurrently,
there
are
separate
things.
One
is
to
provide
the
framework
and
one
is
part
of
a
development
agreement,
so
I
want
to
to
turn
it
over
to
tatiana
and
she's
standing
right
here
patiently
waiting
for
me.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
time.
Thank
you.
F
Good
evening
planning
board
members
tatiana
childress
city
of
old,
smart
planetary
development,
so
since
we're
allowed
to
present
both
of
them
at
the
same
time,
I
would
like
to
start
with
case
2104,
which
is
a
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
for
density
intensity
standards
in
the
community
redevelopment
district.
The
reason
why
I'm
starting
with
this
case
is
because
it
covers
a
lot
more
in
detail
and
both
of
these
amendments
they're
covering
the
same
incentive.
It's
just
in
different
plans,
so
one
is
in
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
other
one
is
in
the
land
development
code.
F
So
the
first
request
is
a
request
to
amend
the
community
development
district
crd
land
use
category
to
allow
density
intensity
incentive
for
mixed-use
development
that
contains
a
mix
of
residential
and
non-residential
uses
within
the
same
multi-store
building
for
an
area
along
tamper,
road
state,
road
580..
F
The
proposed
incentive
would
allow
up
to
65
units
per
acre
for
residential
150
units
per
acre
for
transit,
accommodations
or
hotel
use
and
a
floor
area
ratio
of
2.0
for
any
commercial
developments.
Utilizing
the
incentive
exceeding
the
current
maximum
density
and
intensity
of
the
community
redevelopment
category,
which
is
currently
set
at
30
units
per
acre
in
far-01,
would
be
required
to
provide
hurricane
evacuation
closures
and
re-entry
plans
for
their
specific
development.
F
This
amendment
will
also
permit
increase
in
density
in
the
coastal
high
hazard
area,
to
address
the
proposed
bonus
density
and
intensity
within
the
specified
area
of
the
crd
category,
the
request
to
men,
the
community
development
district,
sarah
deland
used
category
to
express
the
density
for
transit
accommodations
uses.
So
somehow
our
complaint
did
not
have
any
trains
accommodation
uses
expressed
in
the
comp
plan,
so
in
comprehensive
plan.
I
was
silent
about
it.
F
However,
in
our
land
development
code
it
was
expressed
at
80
units
per
acre,
and
also
this
request
includes
the
property
rights
element
per
section,
163
3177
6.6i
florida
statutes,
which
was
recently
added
as
a
requirement,
so
just
wanted
to
focus
on
the
area.
So
this
is
our
land
use
future
land
use
map
green
here
indicates
crd
community
redevelopment,
district
and
area
outlined
in
red
is
the
area
with
the
density
intensity,
bonus
area
or
in
in
incentive.
F
Why
we're
proposing
this
amendment?
Well,
as
felicia
stated,
there's
been
quite
an
effort
in
the
last
20
years
so
to
facilitate
redevelopment
opportunities
along
tampa
road
court
or
in
state
street
to
incentivize
a
sustainable
vertically
integrated
development
or
tod
concept,
which
is
a
transit,
oriented
development
concept,
to
guide
the
development,
to
promote
higher
densities
along
multimodal
corridors
and
to
preserve
or
to
reduce
the
density
in
environmentally
sensitive
areas.
F
F
This
powerpoint
presentation
is
in
line
with
the
staff
report,
the
staff
report
for
case
2104,
and
it's
easy
to
follow
if
you
find
the
sections
labels
standards
of
approval
in
your
staff
report,
so
the
density
incentive
bonus
for
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
development
is
consistent
with
cra
policy
1.4.2,
which
states
as
an
initial
step
in
the
redevelopment.
Revitalization
of
the
crd,
the
city
shall
develop
incentives
to
be
contained
in
the
land
development
code
which
encourage
redevelopment
or
revitalization
through
the
use
of
community
redevelopment.
District
land
use.
Category.
F
As
shown
in
this
map,
so
almost
the
entire
area
is
located
now
within
the
coastal
high
hazard
area,
similar
to
pretty
much
the
entire
city
of
oldsmar.
The
new
map
became
available
in
august
28
21,
so
for
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
development
qualifying
for
density
intensity
increase
incentive,
as
presented
in
the
proposed
amendment.
F
F
In
addition
to
furthering
the
city
comprehensive
plan,
the
proposed
amendment
is
also
consistent
with
the
county-wide
rules
amended
through
august
17
2020.,
the
city
of
oldsmar
town
center
is
located
with
designate
within
the
designated
activity
center,
which
permits
higher
density
intensity
under
the
county.
Wine
rules.
F
Adding
an
incentive
for
vertically
integrated
transit,
supported,
mixed-use
development
and
expressing
hotel
accommodations
density
is
compatible
with
and
supports
the
uses
articulated
in
the
future
land
use
element
and
county-wide
rules.
This
proposed
text
amendment
is
not
introducing
or
modifying
any
of
the
established
uses
in
the
district.
F
So
in
the
tccr,
which
is
the
area
of
interest,
this
aci
is
established
to
provide
suitable
area
for
retailing,
service
facilities,
residential
density
up
to
30
units
per
acre
maximum
impervious
surface
of
0.9,
which
means
that
10
green
space
on
the
site.
Basically,
that's
currently
today,
that's
what's
already
allowed
maximum
floor
area
of
2.0
and
again
there's
an
inconsistency
here.
F
So
the
far
f2
is
currently
in
the
land
development
code,
but
under
comp
plan,
which
is
kind
of
like
a
guiding
document,
it's
a
set
at
one,
so
we're
just
correcting
that
inconsistency
and
the
maximum
height
for
this
district
is
75
feet
or
up
to
six
floors.
F
The
next
slide
sort
of
summarizes
this
all
now,
if
you
can
see
on
table
two,
all
of
the
zoning
districts
of
our
crd
are
specified.
So
it's
the
tccr
town
center,
commercial,
residential
tcc
and
township,
and
commercial
neighborhood,
tcb
town
center
boulevard
and
tcr,
which
is
town
center
residential.
F
The
tcci
is
only
40
acres.
So
that's
where
this
bonus
density
is
going
to
be
applied
and
it's
not
collectively
on
the
entire
entire
like
map,
so
it's
only
as
an
incentive.
So
anybody
who
still
wants
to
build
something
that
does
not
need
this
density
of
60
units
per
acre
or
does
not
qualify
for
vertically
integrated
development,
they're
still
going
to
be
allowed
only
to
do
up
to
30
units
per
acre.
F
This
slide
demonstrates
that
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
county-wide
rules.
We
are
designated
community
center
between
50
to
500
acres,
so
here
this
demonstrates
that
we're
about
our
crd
is
about
137
acres.
F
F
However,
today
the
oldsmar
average
daily
water
demand
in
2020
was
1.3
million
gallons
per
day.
The
ultimate
water
supply
infrastructure
and
reverse
osmosis
water
treatment
plan
has
a
daily
production
capacity
of
2.0
millions
gallons
per
day.
Water
system,
including
hours,
are
designed
with
additional
capacity
for
future
development
and
needs
with
the
plans
to
develop
a
vital
downtown
proposed
fiscal
year.
Budget
22
includes
water
supply
plan
update
to
ensure
our
water
supply
stays
concurrent
with
the
demand
into
the
foreseeable
future.
F
At
the
time
that
the
water
demand
is
75
of
the
capacity
the
fdap
mandates
that
the
city
performs
annual
capacity
analysis
report
and
begin
planning
for
future
supply
expansion
to
meet
the
projected
needs.
F
The
same
applies
for
the
sewer,
so
adequate
sanitary
sewer
facilities,
including
treatment
capabilities,
will
be
continuously
available
to
serve
the
property.
Any
use
of
the
proposed
incentive
will
require
again
a
recorded
development
agreement.
The
average
daily
flow
at
the
oldsmar
water
reclamation
facility
in
2020
was
1.5
mgds.
The
permitted
adf
at
the
wrf
is
2.2
mgd.
F
Sufficient
traffic
carrying
capacity
will
be
continuously
available
to
serve
the
property
again.
One
of
the
qualifying
criteria
for
the
proposed
density
intensity
incentive
is
a
recorded
development
agreement,
as
established
in
article
14,
and
each
development
agreement
includes
must
include
a
master
development
plan
per
section
5.9.1.3,
which
requires
a
transportation
impact
analysis.
F
Therefore
detailed
transportation
impact
analysis
will
be
required
at
the
time
of
the
development
agreement
for
each
project
qualifying
for
the
density
intensity
bonus
at
the
time
of
the
proposed
development.
The
applicant
will
be
also
required
to
meet
with
the
florida
department
of
transportation
for
a
pre-op
meeting
to
address
future
access
along
tampa
road
and
state
road,
580.
F
F
This
slide
just
demonstrates
that
the
proposed
amendment
is
located
along
the
two
designated
multimodal
corridors,
regional,
multimodal
corridors
and,
as
stated
earlier,
so
mobility
study
will
be
required
at
the
time
of
each
development
agreement.
F
Some
quit
traffic
analysis,
so
the
entire
segment
of
state,
road,
580
adjacent
to
the
site
operates
at
level
of
service
of
c
and
the
entire
segment
of
tampa
road
from
hillsborough
county
to
state
road
580
also
operates
at
level
of
service
of
c.
An
only
small
segment
of
tamper,
road
from
580
to
force
lakes
adjacent
to
the
site
operates
at
los
ff.
F
This
will
not
affect
the
natural
environment
and
the
density
incentive
is
only
for
a
small
area
located
along
tamper
road.
In
addition,
swethmod
requires
an
erp
environmental
resource
permit.
In
addition,
this
also
qualifies
as
an
infill
development
because
we're
not
anywhere
near
the
coastal
area
of
baltimore
we're
in
a
multimodal
corridor.
F
Adequate
public
facilities,
such
as
schools,
parks
and
libraries,
will
be
continuously
available
to
serve
the
property.
As
shown
on
this
map.
We
have
multiple
parks,
we
have
oldsmore
library
and
two
elementary
schools
in
the
area
and
the
further
evaluation
will
be
required
at
the
time
of
the
development
agreement
again,
but
according
to
pinellas
county
schools,
the
county's
school
age
population
is
decreasing
due
to
housing,
affordability.
F
There
are
two
elementary
schools,
oldsmar
and
forest
lakes.
The
schools
have
a
combined
capacity
of
approximately
1400
seats,
based
on
the
total
number
of
classrooms
and
allowable
teacher-to-people
ratio.
The
combined
total
enrollment
last
fall
was
974
k5
students.
Both
of
these
schools,
also
have
pre-kindergarten
students,
approximately
50
seats
at
each
site
and
based
on
this
preliminary
data
from
the
county.
It
appears
that
there's
unused
capacity
currently
at
both
of
these
schools.
F
So
the
next
one,
the
amendment
will
not
constitute
a
grant
of
special
privilege
to
an
individual
owner.
So
this
shows
all
of
the
parcels
within
this
designated
area
and
on
this
amendment
would
provide
a
density
incentive
to
anyone
who
meets
the
guidelines
for
a
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
development
located
within
the
tccr
zoning
district.
F
The
amendment
will
not
conflict
with
the
needs
of
the
neighborhood
or
the
city,
offering
a
density
intensity
incentive
along
tampa
road
corridor
and
the
location
will
facilitate
activity
along
state
street
in
downtown
and
provide
an
incentive
to
construct
muted
residential
units
on
the
second
floor,
higher
or
higher,
thereby
reducing
residential
flooding
storm
risks,
while
increasing
the
inventory
of
residential
housing
in
the
area.
F
In
addition,
the
city
of
ultima
has
been
trying
to
redevelop
and
revitalize
its
downtown
area
and
recreate
a
main
street
along
the
state
street
for
decades.
The
density
intensity
incentive
may
facilitate
this
process
by
spurring
the
development
of
one
temporary
and
state
route
580
and
also
increase
the
commercial
activity
along
state
street.
So
the
existing
conditions
today
already
include
historic
buildings,
open
space
around
city
hall,
newer
mixed-use
offices
and
apartments,
doctor's
offices
and
other
available
commercial
space.
F
And
this
amendment
will
not
adversely
or
unreasonably
affect
the
use
of
other
property
in
the
area
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
development
creates
additional
housing
options
for
residents.
It
attracts
younger
and
affluent
population.
F
F
Also,
the
benefits
include
concentration
and
diversity
of
activities,
including
vitality,
more
secure
environment,
more
attractive
and
better
quality
town,
centers
less
need
to
travel
less
reliance
on
the
car
more
opportunity
for
public
transport.
It
includes
social,
economic
and
environmental
benefits
as
well.
F
The
mixed-use
development
is
also
referred
to
as
sustainable
development
or
smart
growth,
new
urbanism
or
infill
development,
so
one
of
the
benefits
is
to
control
the
swirl
kind
of
so
we're
so
built
up.
We
don't
have
any
more
vacant
lots.
We
don't
have
any
more
lots
that
we
can
split.
So
the
only
way
we
can
grow
here
in
oldsmar
if
we
were
to
grow,
is
to
go
vertically
at
this
point.
F
But
this
trend
kind
of
like
the
national
grow
growth
management
technique
originated
in
the
2000s,
and
I
will
cite
so
patterns
utilizing
integrated
mass
transit,
with
greater
emphasis
on
protecting
natural
resources,
preserving
open
space
and
revitalizing
existing
urban
cores
vertically
integrated
mixes
development
includes
compact,
residential
and
commercial
development.
With
the
same
within
the
same
building,
the
slides
just
demonstrate
how
the
urban
sprawl
and
big
box
stores
they
kind
of,
let
go
hand
in
hand,
and
then
your
vertically
integrated
mixed
use
development.
F
F
This
amendment
will
not
deter
the
improvement
or
development
of
other
property
in
the
area,
so
the
improvement
or
development
of
other
property
in
the
area
will
not
be
affected
by
the
proposed
amendment.
Any
proposed
development
must
be
consistent
with
the
existing
and
planned
uses
in
the
area
and
also
consistent
with
the
county-wide
rules.
F
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
entire
area,
almost
the
entire
area,
is
within
the
coastal
high
hazard
area,
so
access
to
emergency,
shelter,
space
and
evacuation
routes.
The
proposed
amendment
would
only
affect
an
area
of
the
city
that
is
located
along
temporary
corridor,
which
is
a
designated
hurricane
evacuation
route.
F
Development
in
this
area
that
propose
increase
in
density
and
intensity
above
the
current
standards
shall
require
hurricane
evacuation,
closure
and
re-entry
plans
and
per
florida
statute.
Section
163,
3178
hurricane
shelter
mitigation
measures
will
be
required
at
the
time
of
the
development
agreement.
As
stated
on
the
prior
slides.
F
Utilization
of
existing
disturbed
areas
so
we're
meeting
this
criteria
as
well,
because
the
area
eligible
for
proposed
density
and
intensity
bonus
has
they
developed,
has
has
been
developed
with
public
roads
and
infrastructure
and,
as
I
stated
earlier,
this
area
is
also
classified
as
infill.
It's
been
disturbed
before
and
no
natural
areas
will
be
disturbed.
F
Maintenance
of
scenic
quality
and
improvement
of
public
access
to
water.
This
criteria
is
not
applicable
because
no
natural
areas
will
be
disturbed.
The
infill
area
is
located
along
the
busy
regional
multimodal
corridors
and
does
not
extend
into
our
city
of
oldsmar
coastal
areas
demonstrated
on
this
aerial
map.
F
Water
dependent
use
is
also
not
applicable
because
the
infill
area
is
located
on
the
temple
road
corridor,
the
overall
reduction
of
density
or
intensity.
The
proposed
amendment
would
only
allow
application
of
the
density
bonus
to
a
relatively
small
portion
of
the
crd
land
use
category.
F
F
Clustering
of
uses
is
not
applicable
to
us
an
integral
part
of
comprehensive
planning
process.
As
mentioned
earlier,
the
area
in
which
the
density
bonus
is
proposed
by
the
amendment
has
been
identified
in
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
as
an
area
in
which
redevelopment
in
the
town
center
is
encouraged.
This
amendment
would
facilitate
this
redevelopment.
F
The
property
rights
element,
as
stated
earlier
again,
there's
new
statutory
requirements
that
really
that
are
related
to
comprehensive
plan
in
chapter
163
florida
statutes,
which
were
amended
based
on
the
most
recent
legislative
session.
So
the
house
bill,
59,
was
signed
by
the
governor
on
june
29
2021
and
became
effective
as
of
july
2021.
F
house
bill
59
at
section
163
3177
6i,
requiring
each
local
government
to
adopt
the
property
rights
element
into
their
comprehensive
plan
to
ensure
that
private
private
property
rights
are
considered
in
the
local
land
use
decision
making
the
property.
The
new
property
rights
element
must
be
adopted
by
local
municipalities
by
earlier
of
the
date
of
the
adoption
of
its
next
proposed
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
which
that's,
what
we're
doing
or
the
date
of
the
next
scheduled
valuation
and
appraisal
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
F
F
So
we
have
a
little
bit
different
standards
of
approval
here
so
section
three
point:
13.2
provides
standards
for
approval
for
proposed
code
amendments.
F
The
amendment
complies
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
enhances
the
purpose
of
the
land
development
code,
so
comprehensive
plan
amendment
is
being
applied
simultaneously
to
ensure
consistency
with
the
land
development
code
and
the
county-wide
rules,
and
the
density
bonus
is
only
applied
to
the
tccr
zoning
district
density.
Bonus
is
only
applicable
for
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
development.
F
The
increases
in
density
intensity
are
below
maximum
permitted
by
activity
center
land
use
and
the
county-wide
rules
in
which
the
city's
tccr
zoning
district
is
located,
and
then
the
second
one
is.
The
amendment
will
contribute
to
promote
the
community's
welfare.
It
is
consistent
with
the
council
priority
to
redevelop
downtown
and
the
amendment
will
not
grant
a
special
privilege
to
an
individual
property
owner.
The
amendment
will
allow
to
facilitate
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
development
within
the
entire
tccr
district.
J
Yeah,
so
can
you
show
us,
can
you
kind
of
talk
us
through
this
little
chart
here.
F
I
have
it
in
different
colors
in
here,
but
it's
the
same
information
so
table
one
on
the
slide,
which
is
a
current
and
proposed
crd
density.
So
we
have
to
demonstrate
what's
proposed
in
the
comp
plan,
because
complaint
doesn't
necessarily
go
into
each
of
the
zoning
districts.
F
So
currently
we
have
existing
comprehensive
plan
in
the
crd
category,
which
is
the
acreage,
is
142
acres
allows
30
units
per
acre
for
residential
the
transit
density,
which
is
the
hotel
density,
somehow
is
not
expressed
in
the
hotel
for
the
hotels
and
then
we
have
floor
area
ratio
of
1.0
far
in
the
comp
plan,
which
is
a
guiding
document
for
any
kind
of
development
for
the
city
of
oldsmore.
F
For
the
proposed
density
intensity
bonus
area.
Within
this
area
we
have
proposed
65
units
per
acre
as
a
as
an
incentive.
Again,
it's
not
applied
to
the
entire
district.
It's
only
applied
as
an
incentive.
You
have
to
qualify
for
that
incentive
and
it
has
to
be
recorded
with
a
development
agreement,
the
hotel
density
density,
we're
maximizing
up
to
150
units
per
acre
and
the
far
2.0
under
the
countywide
rules.
F
F
F
So
the
hotel
was
actually
80
in
the
lindy
development
code,
never
expressed
in
comp
plan,
increasing
it
to
keeping
it
at
80..
So
we're
not
changing
it
from
80
for
the
entire
crd,
and
only
as
an
incentive
for
this
district
we're
allowing
to
go
up
to
150
for
the
hotel
65
for
residential
and
2.0.
J
F
An
expression
kind
of
like
a
measure
of
residential
density.
J
Okay,
just
sorry,
I
was
looking
at
the
other
chart
and
I
didn't
see
it
but
yeah
I
see
it
now.
Can
you
explain
the
the
floor
area
ratio
and
also
explain
how
does
one
qualify.
F
So
to
qualify
for
this
incentive,
you
have
to
propose
a
development
that
meets
the
requirements
of
a
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
development,
with
the
commercial
on
the
first
floor
and
residential
on
the
second
floor
and
some
kind
of
vertical
parking
structure.
So
no
on
street
parking
is
allowed.
So.
F
F
Height,
we're
not
changing
the
height,
so
it's
still
going
to
be
six
stories,
we're
just
changing
the
framework
for
a
residential
density.
F
F
So
the
existing
pictures,
I
have
existing
photos
from
the
hotel.
F
F
So
yes,
so
the
hotels
are
in
that
range,
one,
two
three
four,
because
on
state
street
the
land
development
requires
you
to
to
have
it
at
four
stories.
Only
so
on
state
trade,
it's
going
to
be
scaled
down
and
then
the
temporal
corridor.
You
can
take
it
all
the
way
to
six
stories,
because
state
street
is
kind
of
like
a
transitional
area
between
your
tccn,
which
is
a
town
center
neighborhood,
which
only
allows
two
to
three
stories.
Can
you.
F
I
I
I
think
so
john
andrew
I'm
sorry
tatiana
johnny,
andrew
that
what
you're
asking
is
it's,
it's
already
six
stories
and
it's
already
the
six
stories
or
75
feet
is
allowed
in
the
gray
area,
so
on
the
south
side
of
state
street.
It's
four
stories,
so
the
galleria,
for
instance,
is
four
stories.
So
that's
what
tatiana's
talking
about
when
she
talked
about
the
transaction.
I
I
see
peach
so
I
see
grace
at
at
along
tampa
road
corridor
at
six
stories.
J
E
I
So
so
again,
it's
two
different
things,
so
so
through
the
land
development
through
the
development
proposals
and
the
and
the
act
and
the
the
active
we
have
a
which,
let
me
start
over
mr
harvey,
we
we
have.
The
council
has
received
a
proposal
and
we,
the
council,
has
authorized
negotiations
on
a
proposal
that
you
keep
seeing,
which
is
a
five-story
building
and
so
that
five-story
building
we're
under
negotiations
for
that
proposal.
I
That
is
different
than
the
framework,
so
the
framework
provides
for.
We
keep
that
built.
Something
like
that,
so
that
proposal
may
not
come
to
fruition.
I
have
no
idea
yet,
but
I
know
that
if
we,
the
the
framework
is
what
you're
providing
today
is,
is
something
that
that
might
look
like
so
you're
not
voting
on
that
building.
It's
just
an
example
of
the
architecture.
B
I
know
I've
just
seen
that
building
several
times
in
the
last
month
or
so,
and
I'm
thinking
is
that
what
they're
really
proposing
to
put
there
or
what
and
I
understand
that
that's
they
won't
be
final
until
after
I
understand
that,
but
be
that
as
it
may,
I'm
still
having
a
hard
time
real
hard
time,
visualizing
how
you're
going
to
take
this
strip
of
land
and
what
they're
going
to
do
with
it.
Of
course,
I
know
there's
no
way
I
can.
You
can
tell
me
what
it
is
because
it's
it's
not
been.
B
B
B
Tall
buildings
in
oldsmar
so
far
have
been
built
back
up
off
of
580.,
all
of
the
the
the
hotels
and
motels
they're
they're,
all
back
up
off
of
the
ground
and-
and
I
I
they're
very
they're,
attractive
and
they're
very
useful
and
they
they're
not
dumping
500
cars
on
the
main
road
every
hour
and
things
of
that
nature.
B
I
know
the
traffic
studies.
I
understand
traffic
studies,
I
don't
understand
them.
I
understand
that
they're
done
and
I
understand
that
they're
done
for
a
purpose.
I've
never
seen
one
work.
I've
seen
I've
seen
so
many
people
so
many
times
I've
seen
traffic
studies
say
this
they're
going
to
put
350
cars
on
here
a
day
and
next
thing
you
know
it's
350.
B
350
cars
an
hour,
well,
okay,
so,
but
because
I've
seen
that
in
my
in
my
time
here
also
another
thing
that
I
just
not
only
can
I
not
visualize
it.
B
B
I
guess
one
of
the
questions
that
I
have.
I
understand
that
developing
land
improves
the
land
increases
tax,
the
tax
base.
It
increases
the
value
basis
of
the
community.
I
understand
the
purpose
for
developing
land,
but
then,
but
my
guess,
my
question,
I'm
I'm
a
tennessee
farm
boy.
My
question
is:
why
does
every
single
corner
have
to
be
concreted
and
developed,
and-
and
that's
that's
what
I
see
just
going
on
more
and
more
and
more
and
more,
I
I
keep.
B
I
keep
joking
that
one
of
these
days
florida's
going
to
sink
from
all
the
concrete,
because
it's
just
it's
just
it's
like
every
single
corner
has
to
be
developed
and
I
I
just
don't
see
the
need
for
that
now
now.
What
can?
What
can
you
do
with
that?
That
corner
other
than
than
some
something
like
this?
You
know,
I'm
I'm
not
a
developer,
I'm
just
a
resident,
but
I
just
don't.
B
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
with
this
proposal,
not
only
because
it
doesn't
agree
with
what
me
and
a
lot
of
other
people
did
years
ago.
I
understand
change
is
good,
for
the
most
part,
change
is
good.
I
understand
that,
but
I
just
I
don't
know
I'm
just
not
comfortable
with
this
at
all.
I
I
I
just
I'm
just
not
comfortable
with
it,
and
I
can't
I
can't.
I
can't
explain
it
any
other
way.
B
C
Hi
as
just
to
bob,
I
don't
get
what
the
point
of
all
this
is,
but
it's
probably
kind
of
neat
if
it
ever
comes
to
happen,
but
I
don't
know
why
we're
doing
this,
I
mean
just
development
for
development's
sake.
That
being
asked
or
said,
I
see
this.
The
county
does
90
units
an
acre,
so
our
65
is
under
the
counties
and
if
you
stick
with
the
little
gray
part
and
never
ever
come
to
us
again
with
another
65
units,
an
acre
in
the
peach
area,
then
I'm
cool
right
property
rights
impact.
I
C
I
I
Figure
figure
3
is
a
coastal
high
hazard
area.
I
think.
C
No,
that
is,
transit,
oriented
land
use
vision
map,
that's
that
shouldn't
even
be
in
this
mitigation.
I
love
that
word
I
just
because
it's
never
used
correctly
now,
according
to
section
163178
florida
statutes,
coastal
high
has
it
so
we're
going
to
appropriate
mitigation
shall
include
without
limitation.
C
I
It
it
depends
what
the
how
the
development
the
development
is,
and
it
really
depends
on
the
configuration
of
any
residential
housing.
So
what
the
configuration
is
for
how
many
efficiency
units
there
are
compared
to
how
many
two-bedroom
units
are
compared
to
how
many
three-bedroom
units
there
are.
I
I
know
from
the
the
wood
field
proposal.
That's
on
the
table
and
again
this
is
the
framework.
This
isn't
that
proposal,
but
just
as
an
example.
I
C
C
F
F
F
F
It's
actually
need
to
be
evaluated
as
a
case
by
case,
because
sometimes
it's
going
to
be
more
beneficial
to
the
emergency
management,
to
construct
the
transportation
facility
on
the
developers
side
or
to
maybe
construct
the
shelter
rather
than
just
take
the
monetary
from
the
developer
or.
C
I
C
Must
have
missed
that,
maybe,
but
anyway,
that
one's
real
important-
and
I
you
know-
I-
I
think
that
it's
our
due
diligence
to
make
something
good
happen
out
of
this
for
the
city,
because
all
we
have
is
run
away.
I
Now
now,
with
the
with
the
development
incentive,
as
as
this
is
right,
it's
it's
just
an
incentive,
so
so
with
that,
that's
why
the
extra
care
went
into
consideration
that
it
requires
a
development
agreement.
So
we
can
look
at
every
impact
of
the
development
and
it
also
requires
enhanced
coastal
high
hazard
and
mitigation
efforts.
You
know
it's
it's
a
concern
for
all
of
florida,
especially
where
we
are
on
the
top
of
tampa
bay.
So
so
we
wanted
to
guarantee
that
we
will
get
that.
So
that's
what
that's
what's
included.
C
I
hope
something
from
this
meeting
goes
to
council
that
that
that,
to
me
is
is
a
priority
I
mean
you
know.
Maybe
I
can
live
with
65
units,
an
acre,
even
though
I
kind
of
uncomfortable
buy
it,
because
growth
for
growth's
sake
is
just
nonsense
and
we
have
a
nice
little
community
here
and
a
rooftop
bar
is
not
something
I'm
real
high
about.
So
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
on
this.
Thank
you.
I
D
You
having
a
good
day,
we
are
tatiana.
How
about
you
I'm
doing
okay,
yeah
me
too.
So
I
have
a
few
questions.
I
got
confused
when
you
guys
were
talking
about
the
high
height
of
the
buildings.
Is
it
on
both
sides
of
state
street
on
the
street?
You
have
to
have
four,
or
can
the
one
north
side
of
state
street
have
six.
D
D
I
F
F
Sorry,
four
feet
on
both
sides
not
six
feet
on
not
six
stories
on
yeah
yeah,
so
it's
gonna
be
this
district.
Is
we
need
a
better
graphic?
The
tccr
district
allows
you
the
height
of
six
stories
correct.
However,
there
is
a
provision
in
land
development
code
which
states
that
any
property
facing
state
street
within
that
district.
They
have
to
be
four
foot
four
stories
tall.
Only.
I
I
No,
actually
it's
the
timing
of
it
is
is
now
I
can't
speculate
on
why
this
wasn't
brought
forward
20
years
ago,
because
all
the
plants
contemplated
this
kind
of
density,
and
this
kind
of
thing
I
wasn't
here
so
it
the
advantage
of
bringing
it
forward
now,
is
that
we
do
have
a
development
on
the
plate
so
to
speak,
right
and
as
as
as
dale
alluded
to
you
know,
we're
not
raising
it
to
the
county-wide
rules,
we're
only
raising
it
to
65,
and
that
is
really
because
we
have
a
viable
development.
I
D
Look
back
on
all
the
proposals.
You'll
have
to
answer
this
one-
I
I
don't
know
if
tatiana
was
around
for
all
this
stuff,
but
when
you
look
back
on
that
that
presentation
you
gave
in
the
beginning
about
all
those
20
years
of
proposals
didn't
any
of
those
previous
proposals
that
were
under
discussion
ever
say:
hey.
If
you
raise
the
densities,
we'll
it'll
help
us
out
and
we
can
get
in
here,
and
we
can
really
talk
about
this.
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
I
can't
speculate
on
that,
but
but
I
would
I
I
could
maybe
guess
that
in
2017,
when
cbre
went
out
and
asked
4,
000
developers
and
interest
most
developers
want
to.
Of
course
they
want
to
have
the
density
in
place.
Would
you
ever
buy
a
lot
thinking
that
you're
going
to
build
your
house,
and
you
couldn't
so
in
this
case
too?
It's
complicated
for
the
city
hall
site
not
for
this
affects
the
whole
district,
but
for
the
city
hall
site,
particularly
the
developer,
doesn't
even
have
the
rights
to
the
property.
I
We're
asking
them
to
invest
a
very
large
substantial
amount
of
money
to
give
us
plans.
They
don't
even
have
the
density
that
would
be
allowable
that
doesn't
make
any
financial
sense
to
any
developer.
To
do
that
so,
and
just
so,
you
all
know
the
the
to
get
the
plans
to
a
place
where
we
can
actually
finish
a
development
agreement
and
like
a
set
of
plans.
The
standard
engineering
for
that
is
about
12
percent
right
now.
I
The
developer
for
woodfield,
for
example,
told
me
that
he's
looking
at
a
development
between
70
million
and
a
hundred
million
a
hundred
million
dollars
so
to
get
to
a
an
engineer
set
of
plans
is
about
12
million.
They
don't
even
own
the
title
of
the
land.
We
would
not.
We
don't
sell
that
to
them
until
we
have
a
development
agreement,
so
a
developer
does
need
to
know
that
they
can
come
in
and
ask
for
an
incentive
so
to
build
something.
That's
the
way
that
works
in
that
and
that
world.
I
hope.
I
Oh
for
the
developer
to
develop
the
ones
that
we
had
have
fallen
through
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
It
could
be
that
we
didn't
meet
financial
terms.
It
could
mean
that
we
didn't
like
the
architectural
design.
So
you
know
I
was
here
during
the
50
unit
townhouse
design
on
the
townhouse.
It
came
back.
It
came
to
a
matter
of
what
the
facade
looked
like,
so
that
that's
why
we
didn't
come
to
an
agreement.
So
there
could
be
a
variety
of
reasons.
K
F
D
That's
up
to
you
guys
so.
G
G
But
if
you
say
that'll
work
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
go
down
to
dunedin
just
the
other
day,
I
went
down
for
fish
on
douglas
avenue.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
talking.
B
G
G
I
So
so
the
way
that
the
development
works
is
that
you
know
we
still
have
on-street
parking
along
state
street
in
washington.
There'll
still
be
plenty
of
on
street
parking.
St
petersburg
drive
where
we're
getting
ready
to
start
a
complete
street
project,
that's
going
to
provide
more
streetscaping,
so
there's
still
going
to
be
on
street
parking
when
something
gets
built.
The
parking
to
support
those
uses
have
to
be
on
that
site.
G
Well,
they
were
limited
in
that
they
were
iron
gates,
and
so
they
probably
had
remotes
or
something,
and
that
would
open
the
gate
so
that
the
parking
there
was
only
for
residents
in
in
the
inside
parking
and
the
street
parking.
G
J
If
it's
okay,
I
was,
I
was
just
gonna.
J
I
was
just
gonna
comment
that
I
used
to
work
for
a
reit
owner
and
operator
shopping
malls
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
really
important
was
this
whole
new
urbanism
movement,
where
you're
creating
a
place
where
people
can
work,
live
and
play
all
within
walking
distance,
and
so
you
know
having
having
the
opportunity
to
visit
neighboring
locations
like
dunedin
and
safety
harbor.
You
know
I
always
compared
oldsmar
as
having
better
infrastructure,
better,
better
location,
a
lot
more
potential
to
offer,
and
so
I
know
we're
not
talking
about
a
plan.
J
J
So
so
this
is
just
to
offer
the
density,
and
so,
in
my
experience
when
I
was
working
for
general
growth
properties
and
we
had
properties
all
over
the
u.s
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
always
had
to
do
is
we
had
to
justify
the
build
you
couldn't
justify
the
build.
Unless
there
was
enough
density,
you
can't
attract
good
retailers.
You
can't
track
good,
mrs,
unless
the
density
is
there,
and
so
it's
like
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse.
J
If
you
can't,
if
you
can't
attract
what
you
want,
because
you
don't
have
the
you,
don't
have
the
use
case
that
supports
it
and
for
me
this
makes
sense,
I'm
glad
we
don't
have
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
maximum
proposed
density.
I'm
glad
we
can
find
a
common
ground,
I'm
glad
we
have.
You
know
a
potential
site
and
obviously,
if
that
potential
site
is
going
to
be
something
that
we
can
review,
I
think
that's
huge,
because
all
of
us
want
to
make
sure.
J
J
I
will
say
that
I'm
supporting
the
the
densification
only
because
I
know
it's
the
precursor
necessary
to
be
able
to
move
forward
on
anything,
that's
viable
and
could
potentially
offer
this
city
something
substantial,
something
that
we've
always
wanted,
which
is
that
walkable
town
center
look
and
feel
that
people
can
really
gravitate
towards
and
feel
feel
like.
We
we
have
that
and
we
don't
have
to
go
all
the
way
to
dunedin
or
somewhere
else.
J
So
if,
if
this
is
a
very
tight
knit
area,
that's
not
going
to
affect
people's
homes,
existing
homes
and
parking
structures
or
are
are
supporting
the
the
land
use
so
you're
not
having
you
know.
If
all
those
things
are
inclusive
right,
we're
not
crowding
streets
because
something's
been
built
whatever
is
being
built,
has
to
have
the
right
parking.
So
all
those
sort
of
things
means
that
we're
going
to
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
Just
like
we
did
on
the
50
house,
you
know
the
50
town
houses
that
was
near
the
library.
J
J
E
Nothing
just
a
couple
things
one
is.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
go
on
record
in
regards
to
felicia
regarding
about
on
november,
2nd
will
be
the
authorization
for
advising
the
attorney
for
the
first
public
hearing
is
on
november,
2nd,
correct
and
then
on
november.
16Th
will
be
the
first
public
hearing
of
these
agenda
items
correct,
correct,
okay,
okay,.
E
So,
are
we
going
to
hear
from
the
actual
applicant
no
applicant,
no.
E
E
D
Hi,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
the
planning
board,
my
name,
is
jason
sanders
and
I'm
at
101
south
bayview
boulevard.
So
I
had
something
else
prepared.
But
during
all
this
I
learned
a
lot
of
things
by
listening
to
you,
folks,
and
everything
else
has
changed
up
a
little
bit,
so
I
might
be
scattered,
but
I'll
try
to
stay
within
the
five
minutes
there.
I
am
in
support
of
downtown
increasing
the
density
and
that
may
be
kind
of
counterintuitive
to
what
you
might
think.
D
You
know
about
with
what
I
have
to
say
personally
and
that's
because
I'm
on
the
west
side
of
the
exact
property
that
you're
talking
about
okay,
I
have
the
property
jams
and
laboratories
and
power
clean
corporation
right
there
at
baby
boulevard
and
tampa
road.
D
All
the
way
back
to
580
and
all
the
way
down
to
where
the
pool
supply
or
their
pool
place
is
now.
So
it's
a
five
acre
lot
and
I'm
right
in
the
middle
of
this.
So
this
is
I've
been
following
this,
and
this
has
been
interesting
to
me
the
whole
time
because
it
directly
affects
me
a
lot
of
it
is
for
me
there's
the
fear
of
what
happens.
What
happens
next?
How
does
this
affect
me?
How
does
this
affect
my
property?
When
I
go
to
try
to
sell
the
property?
D
How
does
that
affect
any
potential
buyers?
Is
it
good?
Is
it
bad
the
the
same
thing?
Quite
frankly,
you
know
per
se
with
all
due
respect,
mr
harvey,
I
learned
that
you
had
a
you
know,
saying
the
kind
of
the
cra
and
the
setting
up
of
this
a
long
time
ago.
I
remember
that
I
was
a
little
younger
at
the
time,
but
I
was
against
it
because
I'm
an
industrial
property
they're
an
oldsmar,
and
they
want
to
change
that.
You
know
I
was
gonna.
D
D
When
I
say
we
I
mean
the
city.
Sorry
not
me
personally,
you
know
it's
well
within
the
realm
of
what
is
acceptable
to
do
so
with
that.
D
L
Hello.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
My
name
is
vince
albanese
and
just
bought
404
jefferson.
So
I
believe
that
I'm
an
example
of
I
am
here
because
of
the
appeal
of
downtown
sold
on
oldsmar.
I
believe
that
the
higher
density
in
a
vibrant
downtown
is
important
and
is
actually
the
reason
I
bought
downtown.
L
So
I
am,
I
run
a
healthcare
cybersecurity
company
I've
been
I'm
a
lifelong
pinellas
county
resident
spent
my
days
going
downtown
to
webb
city.
I
was
at
the
lucky
lobster
last
weekend,
looking
at
what
they
did.
I
had
lunch
at
midtown
in
tampa
today,
and
there
are
people
there's
people
everywhere
and
I'm
I'm
a
proponent
of
measured
control,
but
those
pro
the
midtown
project
I
mean,
I
think,
goes
back
to
me
being
a
kid
trying
to
get
something
going
down
there.
L
However,
I
think
the
net
result
of
this
when
done
right
is
is
very
important
for
us.
It's
important
for
the
property.
I
built
my
my
briefly
personal
story
and
how
I
end
up
here:
house
cities,
lake
woodlands.
I
got
cancer.
We
bought
in
that
taylor
in
the
new
taylor,
morrison
tuscany
woods
community.
L
At
the
end
of
pine
avenue
and
that
property
sold
in
18
minutes
out
there
and
I've
decided
to
come
down
here
overpaid
for
this
and
I'm
going
to
put
more
in
the
house
than
I
paid
for
it,
I'm
sure
in
getting
it.
But
it's
going
to
go
back
to
what
it
was
in
1925..
L
I
don't
know
where
in
pinellas
county
I
can
live
today
or
I
can
walk
to
the
water.
I
want
to
be
able
to
walk
to
a
vibrant,
downtown
all
right,
and
then
this
is
the
last
bastion
of
being
able
to
do
that.
So
I
have
lived
through
the
development
of
st
petersburg
from
the
green
benches
through
safety
harbor
we
go
to
dunedin.
L
I
was
on
the
canopy
last
weekend
down
in
saint
pete
right
and
I
what
I
desire
is
that
the
ability
to
do
that
here-
and
I
can't
imagine
a
better
thing
from
myself
now-
my
grandchildren
and
the
property
that
we
have
than
to
literally
live
in
a
quaint
house,
two
blocks
from
me
being
able
to
do
that.
So
I
think
that
that's
to
me
is
the
story.
L
I
was
one
of
the
first
that
bought
into
the
inverness
townhomes
that
comes
from
countryside
mall,
so
as
a
young,
I
was
17
interest
in
getting
that
time
in
the
whatever
that
was
in
the
late
70s
or
so,
but
that
appeal
of
being
younger
and
around
other
people
having
a
place
to
go
the
ability
to
walk
across
the
countryside
mall
at
the
time,
which
was
new,
has
never
left
me,
and
I
think
it
will
attract
those
kinds
of
people,
and
this
density
in
a
more
vibrant,
vibrant
downtown
will
not
attract
people.
L
My
age
as
we
work
to
change
oldsmar
and
in
the
residential
area.
I
have
no
desire
to
to
change
anything,
but
getting
back
to
you
know
that
quaint
area,
but
being
so
close
to
this
to
me,
is
extraordinarily
appealing.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
That's
my
message
just
here
as
a
citizen
and
appreciate
your
work.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
Hello,
my
name
is
tom
price.
Some
of
you
may
know
me
some
of
you
may
not
my
wife
and
I
own
the
oldsmar
tap
house
and
golf
cart
cafe
on
state
street.
We
invested
quite
a
bit
of
money
in
the
downtown
district,
we're
obviously
for
it.
We
don't
really
understand
why
anyone
is
against
it.
The
density
levels
seem
correct.
D
418
arlington
avenue
east.
Thank
you.
So
I'm
two
blocks
away
from
my
work
appreciate
it.
I
take
my
golf
cart
to
work
every
day.
Well,
this
work,
so
I'm
for
the
downtown
development,
I'm
for
the
density
levels.
I
hope
you
guys
vote
for
it.
I
hope
you're
in
favor
of
it
we
would
not
have
invested
the
amount
of
money
we
invested
in
downtown
oldsmar.
D
If
we
didn't
believe
in
oldsmar,
we
wouldn't
have
bought
a
house
in
oldsmar
11
years
ago,
if
we
didn't
believe
in
oldsmar
the
gentleman
that
just
spoke
said
the
exact
same
thing,
so
I
don't
know
why
we
would
not
invest
in
this
downtown
development,
and
so
that's
what
I
have
to
say-
and
I
appreciate
your
all's
time
and
all
your
hard
work
on
the
board
and
appreciate
everything.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
H
I
know
you
were
encouraged
to
not
show
up
tonight,
so
you
would
not
have
a
public
hearing
and
would
not
have
public
input
and
take
away
from
your
right
to
vote
yes
or
no
on
what's
being
heard
tonight.
Is
this
the
kind
of
city
we
live
in?
Absolutely
not
so
I'm
very
glad
that
you
came
tonight
regardless
of
your
vote,
yes
or
no.
So
thank
you
and
the
city
thanks
you.
H
What
is
before
you
tonight
is
pretty
straightforward:
the
request
for
a
bonus
density
for
projects
in
the
designated
area,
as
shown
that
are
vertically
integrated,
mixed-use
developments
with
an
approved
development
agreement
and,
as
you
heard
tonight,
there
is
a
lot
that
goes
into
the
development
agreement.
The
vote
tonight
is
not
whether
the
planning
board
or
me,
or
the
public
or
even
the
city
council,
likes
the
site
plan.
The
architectural
look
or
anything
like
that.
H
This
is
part
of
the
process
to
get
us
to
a
site
plan.
We
only
have
a
concept
right
now,
so
the
vote
tonight
will
determine
a
couple
of
things,
but
one
of
I
think
is
very
important
and
I
think
it
should
be
noted.
I
think
a
yes
vote
will
enable
the
city
of
oldsmar
to
negotiate
a
15
to
20
million
dollar
parking
garage
with
a
developer,
putting
most
of
the
burden
on
the
developer.
H
H
I
looked
at
downtown
dunedin
and
downtown
safety,
harbor
looking
at
single-family
homes
and
a
quarter-mile
radius
of
downtown
in
those
downtowns.
I
looked
at
price
per
square
foot
in
these
areas
from
four
years
ago.
Three
years
ago,
two
years
ago
and
one
year
ago,
into
the
current,
as
you
can
see,
by
the
chart
and
if
I'll
wait
till
you
till
everybody
has
one,
I
think
I
hopefully
have
enough,
as
you
can
see,
as
you
can
see
by
the
chart,
as
we
got
closer
to
the
current
values,
they
increased
not
just
a
little
but
a
lot.
H
In
dunedin,
the
four
year
increase
went
from
212
dollars,
a
square
foot
to
314
dollars,
a
square
foot
or
a
40
48
increase
in
safety
harbor.
They
went
from
193
dollars
a
square
foot
to
319
over
the
same
sample
areas
if
you
average
that
out
between
the
two
areas,
that's
about
11
a
year
as
compared
to
the
48
and
65
percent
that
I
mentioned
so
11
a
year.
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
chart,
that
is
a
projection
in
oldsmar
from
the
current
values
today
and
of
course,
these
are
just
productions.
H
Nobody
has
a
crystal
ball.
If
you
look
at
the
current
values,
the
average
within
a
half
mile
area
of
the
downtown
site
across
the
street
is
204
dollars
a
square
foot
and
that's
the
current
value
today.
As
on
the
mls,
and
if
you
look
at
that
average
of
11
a
year,
it
will
go
to
313
dollars
a
square
foot,
so
that
takes
a
home
from
306
dollars,
a
1500
square
foot
home
of
306
thousand
dollars
to
a
home
of
four
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars.
H
So
quite
an
increase
so
to
the
question
of
a
a
development
like
this
will
affect
the
home
values
in
a
negative
manner.
I
think,
is
incorrect
and
is
shown
to
be
incorrect,
not
only
in
dunedin
and
safety
harbor,
but
in
old
kenwood,
in
saint
pete,
in
various
areas,
throughout
not
only
our
pinellas
county
but
also
hillsborough
county,
the
state
and
the
country,
and
I
think
we're
seeing
that,
but
it
does
help
increase
home
value.
So,
thank
you
and
again,
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
do
thank
you
for
being
here
tonight.
G
G
G
Over
the
past
20
years
we
have
seen
some
development
along
state
street
and
saint
pete
drive,
but
we
are
still
a
long
way
from
having
an
identifiable
and
vibrant
downtown.
We
can
call
our
own
many
other
smaller
cities
around
the
area
have
experienced
growth
in
their
downtown
over
the
past
two
decades,
and
I
think
it
is
time
for
oldsmar
to
do
the
same
with
regard
to
creating
the
sense
of
place
that
ransom,
eli
olds
envisioned
over
100
years
ago,
when
the
city
was
founded.
G
This
incentive
aligns
with
the
density
needed
for
the
type
of
mixed-use
developments
that
our
community-based
master
plan
suggests,
and
I
am
asking
that
you
please
consider
approving
this
amendment
as
a
as
a
way
forward
to
realizing
our
dream
of
creating
the
vibrant
and
active
downtown.
That
oldsmar
deserves
respectfully
submitted.
John
views.
K
You
for
your
time,
justin
cuomo
301
park,
boulevard,
I'm
a
12-year
resident
of
baltimore,
I'm
only
a
resident.
I
don't
have
any
stake
in
this,
so
if
they
don't
like
it,
I
can
move
so
downtown.
Oldsmar
oldsmar
itself
is
kind
of
in
a
conundrum
right
now
we
want
this
downtown
vibrant
city.
K
Have
businesses
shops,
walkable
areas
for
people
to
visit.
We
kind
of
want
more
of
a
safety
harbor.
Oh,
it's
more
dunedin
feel
to
it,
but
we
also
want
to
feel
small.
We
want
to
have
kind
of
this.
What
we've
had
over
the
last
several
years,
so
we're
now
looking
at
this
big
development
right
right
here.
That
is
mostly
residential
where
this
vote
tonight
is
just
about
the
density.
K
It's
not
so
much
about
the
proposed
plan
because
there
is
no
solid
plan,
but
it
would
seem
that
a
lot
of
this
does
revolve
around
one
single
proposal
from
woodfield,
primarily
residential
and
we're
kind
of
looking
as
residents
that
we
want
more
commercial.
We
want
more
shops,
not
so
much.
What
we've
seen
in
the
past
and
oldsmar
is
not
really
able
to
find
a
way
to
make
that
happen.
So
far.
K
K
Again,
that's
that's
just
a
proposal,
but
that
could
be
around
600
more
people,
500
600,
more
cars,
parking
garages,
they're
proposing
around
850
parking
spaces,
but
75
of
that
will
be
reserved
for
residents
or
people
working
in
the
area.
So
it
doesn't
really
give
us
that
much
more
parking.
K
I
think
it
just
prioritizes
the
the
apartments
themselves
and
they
don't
really
seem
that
affordable
either.
You
know,
they're
they're
gonna
be
high-end
luxury
apartments
on
the
downtown
area,
more
people
coming
and
going
you
know.
I'd
also
want
to
elaborate
on
us
being
in
a
flood
zone
having
evacuations,
we
have
two
schools
in
the
area,
but
currently
this
side
of
tampa
road
is
only
zoned
for
one
of
those
schools.
I
don't
know
if
that
would
change,
and
I
don't
know
how
that
would
affect
the
capacity.
K
You
know
I'm
trying
to
understand
more
of
what
the
board
in
oldsmar
is
looking
to
do
with
this
property,
how
they're
going
to
guarantee
that
will
actually
have
shops,
because
they're
still
building
more
medical
clinics,
more
accounting
offices,
it's
not
so
much
what
the
people
are
looking
to
have
and
I
feel
like
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
of
the
same,
we're
just
going
to
gain
more
apartments
and
more
residences.
So
I
hope
that
helps
kind
of
give.
My
point
of
view
I
didn't
really
come
prepared.
K
E
A
A
Answering
all
my
questions
and
I'm
going
to
be
all
over
the
map
tonight,
because
my
thoughts
are
just
after
watching
that
whole
thing.
My
thoughts
are
just
crazy,
but
I
looked
at
some
of
the
emails
that
they
had
sent
back
between
the
for
forward
pinellas
and
felicia
tatiana,
and
please
please
correct
me
if
I
am
wrong
in
anything
because
I'm
not
guaranteeing
I'm
right
in
anything.
So
I'm
looking
at
the
populations,
saint
pete,
261,
000
people
and
their
upa
is
65..
A
A
A
A
Woodfield
is
a
private
company
or
any
any
other
person
that
a
company
that
it's
going
to
be
woodfield
is
a
company.
That's
looking
to
make
money,
they
don't
care
about
oldsmar,
because
the
minute
they
sell
they're
gone
and
they're,
never
gonna
return
again.
It
is
all
about
money.
Doug
just
pointed
that
out:
it's
always
all
about
money.
The
thing
is-
and
I
don't
know
if
of
all
my
discussions
with
people.
Let's
say
we
get
this
big
giant
apartment,
building,
big
giant
parking
garage
and
we
have
all
this
commercial
space
underneath.
A
I
have
not
talked
to
one
person
who
can
guarantee
me
that
it
will
not
be
filled
with
medical
buildings
and
then
all
the
people
that
want
a
vibrant
downtown
will
love
it
if
their
doctor's
office
is
there
because
they
can
just
walk
to
their
doctor's
office
and
there's.
If
anybody
can
guarantee
me
that
this
is
going
to
happen,
I'd
be
happy
to
listen,
because
we
could
end
up
with
a
giant
apartment
building
in
more
medical
buildings,
and
then,
where
are
we
one
of
the
other
things
that
came
up
in
the
presentation?
A
A
A
In
my
humble
opinion,
perhaps
we
should
use
part
of
this
area
as
flood
control,
because
I
don't
know
what
our
plans
are
for
the
future,
but
it
would
be
a
great
spot
for
it.
I'm
not
saying
we
can't
sell
other
out
parcels
and
have
restaurants
and
bars
and
so
forth,
but
20
years
in
the
future.
Where
are
we
going
to
be.
A
Also
one
other
thing
I
did
look
at
today
that
map
she
had
up
there
with
the
red
dots
around
it.
The
area
we're
talking
about
this
is
the
people
that
own
own
there
so
you're,
not
just
passing
a
density
change
for
whatever
the
city
developer
is
you're
gonna,
pass
it
for
the
following
owners
b,
h,
properties,
rkt
properties,
murray
motive,
first
baptist
church,
sam
rod,
two
investments,
wendy's
three
c's
group,
synovus
bank
siegel,
associates
of
new
jersey,
tampa
road
hotel
holdings,
med.
A
So
all
those
people
are
going
to
have
the
potential
in
making
a
lot
of
money,
because
if
you
pass
the
density
they
could
sell
and
they
could
just
do
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do.
So,
it's
just
something
to
think
about.
I
guess
it's
where
you
see
oldsmar
in
20
years.
Do
we
want
a
vibrant,
downtown
yeah,
but
I
think
our
our
methods
of
getting
there
may
be
different.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
I'd
actually
like
next
for
the
board
to
actually
ask
for
a
motion.
Looking
as
for
emotion,
we're
going
to
combine
both
items
together.
Can
we
make
a
combine.
E
Okay,
so
let's
separate
them
out
then
so
if
I
could
get
emotion.
D
C
The
outstanding
thing
that
I
have
is
is,
but
we
can't
address
it
now,
what's
gonna
have
to
happen
against
the
developer
is
going
to
have
to
address
it
with
the
city.
Planning
is
traffic
influx
and
outflux
in
this
area
because
try
to
try
to
cross
the
road
out
here
at
the
stop.
Sign
I
mean
yep,
you
know,
so
that's
not
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
here,
but
that
did
come
across
my
mind
with
that
kludgy
little
map
they
had,
but
that's
really
all
I
had
the
issue
with
the
mitigation.
C
The
hurricane,
I
don't
want
litigation.
I
want
a
plan,
a
solid
heart
plan
and
I
hope
that
that
gets
presented
to
council
where
at
least
my
opinion
is
you
know,
and
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
six-story
wendy's.
B
I
I
still
have
a
couple
of
problems
number
one.
You
know
you
heard
me
talk
about
concrete.
We
don't
take
that
whole
strip
and
go
on
concrete
all
but
10
of
it.
B
I
I
can't
believe
I
can't
help
but
think
that
that's
not
good.
Not
only
is
it
going
to
cause
flooding
or
but
it's
not
it's
going
to.
B
B
So
yeah,
I
am
not
yeah
okay.
Well,
I
guess
that's
enough
said
I
just
don't
I
I
don't
agree
with
the
10
green
space
and
I
don't
agree
with
the
six
stories
right
next
to
the
road.
B
E
G
I
approve
I'm
sorry,
I
vote
proof
vice
chair
pelletier
by
proof.
Yes,
cheer
around
house.