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From YouTube: City of Oldsmar Planning Board Meeting, 8/11/2021
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B
But
I
was
proud
of
oldsmar,
because
people
were
growing
up.
E
F
G
C
C
How
are
you
doing,
mr
car
wash
how
you.
H
E
C
I
hear
what
I
call
the
the
august.
What's
today,
11th
eleventh
meeting
of
the
oldsmar
planning
board
to
order.
Please
join
me
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
If
you
will,
I
pledge.
C
C
I
hereby
open
the
citizen's
open
forum.
Anyone
cares
to
speak,
see.
None
we'll
move
on
citizen's
open
forum
is
now
closed,
swearing
in
process.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
any
item
on
today's
agenda
that
requires
an
oath.
Please
stand
for
that
said
oath
thanks
for
that
you're
going
to
speak.
C
Okay
item
one
approval
of
minutes
dated
july
14th,
any
I
seek
a.
C
All
in
favor
aye
ocean
carry
number
two
plt
20-01
romans
replat
a
portion
of
sickle
subdivision.
I
Good
afternoon
board
elena
delgado
planning
and
redevelopment
if
the
board
is
okay
with
it,
I
actually
have
a
presentation
that
also
includes
the
second
plat
project
into
it.
So
if
we
are
able
to
get
a
quorum
after
the
first
plot
and
then
just
move
right
into
the
second
one,
if
that
is
okay
with
the
board.
E
I
Most
plots
are
created
to
divide
a
larger
parcel
into
separate
lots
that
meet
certain
zoning
standards,
but
this
is
also
required
for
combining
established
tracks
of
land
into
one
parcel,
as
we
will
see
with
the
two
upcoming
plots.
A
final
replat
is
required
as
part
of
the
site
development
process.
I
It
is
located
at
161
douglas
avenue
of
a
replat
of
5
lots
to
a
single
0.76
acre
lot,
which
includes
the
current
lot:
7
8,
9,
10
and
11
within
the
r
residential
office.
Retail
zoning
district
developer
is
proposing
a
single
story,
retail
building
and
an
adjacent
parking
area,
and
the
replay
includes
and
contains
a
dedicated
10
foot,
teco
easement
and
on
your
screens
you
will
see
the
approved
site
plan.
G
You
true
yeah,
I
don't
really
have
any
problems
or
any
questions
about
it
other
than
I
I
don't
know
it
just
looks
like
a
kind
of
an
odd
place
for
a
retail
I
mean
it's
kind
of
you
know
gimgang
road.
There
is
just
a
little
two-lane
road
that
you
really
can
just
drive
right
by.
I
know
the
spa
now
has
opened
up,
so
it's
there's
more
visible
area
out
there,
but
I
don't
know
it
just
seems
kind
of
like
an
odd.
G
C
Thank
you
for
that.
Pat
you
have
any
questions.
D
I
too,
I
mean
I
drove
through
there
and
I
saw
the
small
houses
behind
in
there.
I
couldn't
believe
it,
but
anyway,
yes,
I
too
thought
business
is
here,
but
it's
not
up
to
me.
B
I
don't
have
any
questions
at
all
about
the
project
and
I
appreciate
the
presentation
of
it
just
to
point
to
order,
because
I
haven't
been
on
the
planning
board
very
long.
How
do
you
notify
the
neighbors?
What
is
the
process
for
that?
I'm
just
curious.
F
The
agenda
also
comes
out
the
agenda.
The
other
way
how
we
advertise
is
through
the
planning
board
agenda
comes
out,
so
it's
virtual
as
well
so
we'll.
F
F
B
But
I
saw
the
list
of
the
individual
addresses
and
that's
why
I
was
curious,
how
you
know
so
it
seemed
like
you
were
doing
an
extra
personal
outreach
to
the
neighbors
which
thank
you.
H
G
Mr
chairman,
I
did,
I
did
have
one
one
question.
One
concern
and
I
forgot
I
didn't
make
a
note,
so
I
forgot
about
it
the
back
behind
here
on
across
douglas
road
there's,
some
smaller
houses,
apartments
and
houses.
Those
things
used
to
flood
real
easy.
Now
I
know
there
was
done.
F
This
project
also
went
through
the
site
plan
review,
at
which
point
the
engineer,
designed
the
system
for
this
site
specific
to
take
any
water.
That's
fallen
on
this
site
will
be
captured
within
that
basin.
Basically,
so
he's
not
going
to
be
all
that
impervious
surface
is
not
going
to
be.
The
water
is
not
going
to
be
running
from
that
parking
into
the
neighboring
streets
or
the
properties
across
the
street,
so
the
grading
they
do
take
all
of
the
grades
they
come
inside.
So
it's
like
part
of
the
site,
development
and
drainage.
F
I
wish
daniel
was
here,
but
everything
has
to
be
captured
on
site
and
then
they
only
can
spill
some
water
out
at
increments.
G
F
I
also
forgot
to
mention
the
sign
so
each
project,
a
planing
case.
We
do
post
a
sign
on
the
property
itself.
The
requirement
is
seven
days
prior
to
the
public
hearing
which
is
happening
today.
So
we
do
advertise.
If
you
drive
by
that
area,
you'll
see
an
orange
poster.
F
C
Okay,
the
place
is.
F
This
is
a
re-plot,
so
the
site
plan
is
already
given.
The
use
is
already
given
by
code,
so
the
roi
residential
office
retail
allows
that
certain
use
those
cases.
They
don't
go
in
front
of
the
planning
board
or
council
unless
they
need
some
variances.
So
if
that
site
required
variance,
it
would
go
in
front
of
the
board
of
adjustments.
F
If
that
was
just
a
given
and
the
designer
engineer
met
all
of
the
requirements
of
the
site
plan
approval,
then
it
just
goes
through
trc
building
through
pinellas
county
building
approval
all
the
way
to
construction,
and
you
are
required
and
an
owner
is
required
to
submit
a
re-plot
before
issuance
of
the
ceo.
So
that's
why
you're,
seeing
here
and
normally
re-plot
would
be
maybe
a
little
bit
more
complicated,
but
this
is
a
simple
like
just
four
lots
or
five
lots
into
one
lot.
F
F
F
F
C
Like
figure
two
changes
into
figure
one,
you
know
all
those
little
lines
for
the
lots
become
one.
I
have
no
questions
as
cheer.
I
I
seek
a
motion
to
evaluate,
submit
to
a
regular
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
Romans
replace
subdivision
for
approval.
C
Did
I
say
that
right
seek
a
second,
I
said
here
a
second
all
in
favor
all
opposed
none
motion
approved
item
two.
Am
I
rusted
plt
21-2
family,
five
subdivision.
C
The
requested
action
here
is
to
evaluate
and
submit
a
recommendation.
The
city
council
on
family
five
subdivision
staff.
Your
report,
please.
I
So
for
plt
2102,
it's
located
at
411,
st
petersburg
drive
and
it's
a
replat
of
four
lots
into
a
single
0.702
acre
lot,
which
includes
lots:
11,
12,
13
and
14
located
in
the
tccr
zoning
stress
district.
The
proposed
use
is
two
two-story:
five
thousand
square
foot
commercial
office
buildings
and
adjacent
parking
and
includes
a
dedicated
five
foot:
sanitary
sewer,
easement
and
blanket
tico.
Easement
there's
also
been
a
previously
approved
site
plan,
which
is
on
your
screen
for
review.
C
C
E
B
The
bright
adjacent
right
next
to
the
moose
right,
yes,
moose
and
then
there'll
be
these
yeah
okay.
Sometimes
I
have
to
go
and
look
to
figure
out.
What's
what
and
I
I
would
kind
of
like
to
wait
too.
I
guess
my
question
stems
from
this
property
information
report
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
quite
sure
that
I
understand
where
it
talks
about
the
unsatisfied
mortgages
liens.
What
has
that
got
to
do
with.
I
B
G
Mr
army,
well,
the
water
boy
here
is
to
ask
this
question:
we're
covering
up
a
lot
more
green,
covering
up
a
lot
more
land
with
concrete
and
paving.
Have
we
taken
care
of
that,
and
the
engineer
has
already
made
sure
that
the
water
is
not
going
to
be
a
problem.
F
E
F
No
variances
so
that's
approved
site
plan
and
I
believe
they
are
buying
into
the
storm
water,
which
is
approved
stormwater
system
for
the
town
center,
which
is
approved
by
the
code
to
promote
development
in
downtown.
We
have
this
incentive
where
they
can
buy
into
the
existing
stormwater
system.
Yeah.
G
Okay,
okay,
I
figured
I
did
I
I
guess,
as
you
can
tell,
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
study
like
I
would
like
to
have
before
I
got
here
but
yeah
I
figured
it
was
there,
but
I
I
just
you
know
I'm
always
concerned
about
the
water,
especially
when
we
start
covering
up
the
ground
very
concerned
about
it,
because
I
mean
it's
pretty
flat
around
here.
G
C
C
Being
said,
my
opinion
once
again
leaked
out.
I
have
no
question
to
staff
for
a
simple
replat.
I've
watched
the
development
of
this.
It
looks
like
it's
going
nicely
and
I'm
pleased
with
the
addition
on
st
p
drive
with
the
development
in
that
area.
C
I
seek
a
motion
from
the
board
on
p
lt
21-2
family
of
five
subdivision
to
submit
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
approval.
Second,
second,.
E
C
See
any
comments
from
staff
on
anything
about
anything.
Anybody
want
to
chat
it
up.
A
C
C
G
C
All
in
favor
all
opposed
right
motion
passes
one
two,
three
six.
E
F
So
usually,
the
repla
takes
place
after
the
building
is
already
been
approved
and
infrastructure
has
already
been
approved
for
some
of
these
projects,
and
then
it
takes
up
to
it
can
take
up
to
four
months
at
least
a
month
for
the
conformance
review.
So
we
they
submit
the
application.
Each
application
has
to
run
through
the
trc.
F
So
that's
one
month,
then,
once
the
trc
approves
these
applications,
then
it
goes
through
the
survey
company
for
conformance
review,
so
city
hires,
a
third
party
surveyor,
who
then
initiates
and
works
directly
with
the
other
surveyor,
and
they
work
out
all
of
these
details
that
have
to
be
incorporated
into
plot,
like
recording
of
the
easements.
F
F
These
two
particular
ones
they're
just
a
formality,
and
sometimes
they
would
run
through
administrative
replied
if
it
involves
two
two
lots
and
no
easements,
so
they
could
run
as
an
admin
replace
and
you
won't
even
see
them.
So
we
approve
them
administratively
because
they
meet
all
of
the
conditions
of
the
code.
Here
we
were
dealing
with
more
than
two
lots
and
some
easements,
plus
it's
commercial,
so
it
just
has
to
be
pushed
through
the
same
process.
F
Looking
at
two
three
months,
then
it's
placed
on
the
planning
board
that's
another
month
and
then
council
that's
another
one,
so
they
could
take
up
to
four
months
after
the
site
plan
is
already
approved
and
usually
the
site
plan
comments
generate
this
requirement
for
replot.
It's
one
of
the
common
side
plan
comments.
We're
stating
please
know
that
a
final
re-plot
will
be
required
prior
to
issuance
of
the
ceo.
So
we
give
a
little
bit
of
time
because
we
know
that
it
takes
time
to
execute
these
legal
documents.
F
F
They
would
have
to
go
back,
fix
those
problems
and
come
back
to
the
council
again
to
re
record,
but
usually
that
would
be
a
survey
or
so
the
surveyors
are
the
ones
that
are
doing
the
plots
so
and
we
hire.
We
don't
have
a
surveyor
that
works
for
the
city,
so
we
have
to
sub
out
this
work
to
a
different
third
party
and
they
the
survey
reviews
this.
F
It's
prayer,
florida
statute
177,
so
they
just
go
through
the
list
and
that
list
is
also
listed
in
our
land
development
code
because
we
have
to
do
the
same
as
the
florida
statute.
B
To
the
board
for
getting
outside.
A
I'm
sorry,
okay,
if
I
ask
a
follow-up
question,
so
one
one
question
I
had
is:
how
does
the
city
determine
which
developments
come
to
the
board
and
which
don't-
and
you
know
I'm
asking
because
sometimes
things
happen
that
are
impactful
and
then
we
find
out
after
the
fact
which
seems
to
be
very
true
of
upon
phil
in
my
community.
So.
F
That
was
a
mistake
back
in
2001,
I
would
say,
but
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
that
matter
right
now,
so
every
replat
goes
through
stages
of,
and
that
was
a
complicated
one
because
it
had
phases
and
it
had
also
preliminary.
A
Class,
how
is
it
a
permitted
without
what
what
determines
what
comes
to
the
to
the
board.
F
Everything
comes
to
the
board
pretty
much
if
it's
a
subdivision
replot,
if
it's
any
kind
of
like
splitting
of
one
parcel
into
multiple
parcels
unless
it
meets
the
requirements
of
the
administrative
replace
which
administrative
re-plot
is
for
the
most
part,
is
just
for
the
residential,
mostly
single-family
homes.
So
if
you
have,
for
instance,
it's
been
very
common
practices.
You
know
you
have
an
oversized
lot
and
you
want
to
split
it
in
two
lots,
because
it
means
a
certain
zoning,
because
when
the
lot
was
created,
the
zoning
was
not
in
place.
F
It
means
like
six
items
like
you're,
not
as
I
mentioned,
creating
any
easements
you're,
not
causing
impacts,
you're
good,
with
the
current
density
on
the
land
develop
under
the
county-wide
rules
and
also
our
land
use
map,
because
you
have
to
when
you
split,
you
have
to
make
sure
that
you're
still
within
the
current
density.
F
So
if
it's
just
one
unit
per
acre,
you
can't
put
two
units
on
that
acre,
so
you
still
have
to
stay
so
it
if
you're,
not
violation
of
any
of
those
things
like
we
check
like
we'll,
almost
have
like
a
check
mark.
It
goes
through
as
an
admin,
replot,
trc
review,
and
then
city
manager,
approval.
A
The
existing
code
for
that
particular
piece
of
that
particular
lot.
Those
things
come
to
to
the
board,
but
a
new
new
building
structure
won't
like
like
these
all,
are
under
construction
already.
So
so
is
there
any
time
when
those
come
to
us.
F
I
think
we're
like
confusing
two
different
things,
so,
for
instance,
if
we
take,
for
instance,
the
development
bayside
terrace,
so
it
used
to
be
a
mobile
home
park,
then
before
the
developer
was
able
to
split
those
lots
into
single
family
or,
however,
they
how
many
they
their
town
homes.
Actually,
so
they
initiate
a
preliminary
re-plot
that
preliminary
repla
basically
tells
you
okay,
how
many
units
I
can
fit
on
this
parcel?
How
many
parcels
will
be
created?
What
is
the
current
density
that
allows
me
to
place
those
units
on
that
land?
I
A
F
As
far
as
the
site
blends,
okay,
so
the
site
plans.
If
you
look
at
our
zoning
map,
our
zoning
map
has
each
section
of
the
zoning
area
in
our
land.
Development
code
has
uses,
and
it
also
has
approved
that
are
already
approved
in
there
in
the
density
intensity,
setbacks
all
the
zoning
regulations
already
in
the
code.
So
if
a
developer
similar
to
how
the
roman
site
plan
was
is
proposing
a
building
that
is
not
exceeding
anything.
That's
currently
given
by
the
code
that
site
plan
goes
just
through
the
trc.
F
If
a
land
use
change
or
a
different
use
is
introduced,
then
you'll
see
it
here,
but
if
something
from
the
code
that's
already
given
by
zoning,
all
they
have
to
do
is
just
provide
a
site
plan.
Say
we're
proposing
this
we're
meeting
all
the
zoning
regulations
we're
making
the
parking
for
the
site
those
projects
you'll,
you
won't
see
unless
it's
in
the
town
center
code,
so
anything
in
the
town
center
code
is
approved
by
the
council
like
this.
F
C
Qualifies
our
10
minutes
of
training
for
the
planning
board
that
should
satisfy
the
mayor
about
our
our
behaviors
up
here,
and
on
that
note
I
missed
the
meeting
and
I
didn't
want
to.
I
watched
what
you
all
went
through.
It
was
a
very
complicated
thing
you
all
did
last
month.
I
want
to
honor
you
for
your
courage
and
what
you
did
and
you
took
a
stand
and
you
developed
you
just
delivered
a
message
from
the
planning
board
where
volunteers
we
think
on
our
own.
C
B
Had
seen
what
was
presented
to
council,
we
may
have
had
a
different
conversation
and
a
few
of
us
were
there.
So
so
I
do
think
that
if
we
had
seen
what
was
presented
at
that
time-
and
hopefully
our
comments
on
the
planning
board
as
much
as
I
thought,
we
talked
about
the
issue,
but
as
much
as
they
may
have
seen,
you
know
like
it
was
like
you
say,
we're
we
don't
have
any
power.
I
do
think
that
it
helped
to
give
some
structure
to
the
to
what
was
present
presented
at
the
council
meeting.
B
A
B
A
And
just
in
comment
that
just
to
piggyback
that
I
mean
if,
when,
when
something's
being
when
a
change
is
being
proposed,
having
a
vision
for
that
change
makes
a
huge
difference.
If
we
don't
see
what
is
planned,
then
it's
hard
to
it's
like
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse
you're.
Just
like
you
know,
what's
what
does
this
mean?
So
if,
if
you
kind
of
see
a
plan,
then
you're
like
okay?
Well
now,
I
know
what
this
could
mean.
I
know
what
the
intent
is,
makes
a
lot
easier.
H
Comment
to
add
to
all
that
because-
and
I
just
want
to
throw
an
idea
out
there-
we've
met
very
often
recently,
but
sometimes
we
don't
meet
for
months
yeah.
If
we
could
suggest
maybe
one
of
those
nights
we
all
get
together
have
a
presentation.
What
does
planning
do?
I
know
there's
a
janice
miller
academy
and
I
know
we
can
go
through
that.
But
could
we
get
together
and
have
an
education
course?
Basic?
Here's,
a
plot!
Here's
this!
C
But
I
don't
need
any
training.
Thank
you,
and
and
as
a
point
of
order,
you
I
mean
that's
a
point.
The
planning
board
can
call
a
meeting
anytime.
It
wants
to
discuss
things,
that's
in
the
charter.
Okay,
if
you
want
you
can
like,
I
don't
know
how
you
would
do
you
go
through
kathy
because
of
sunshine
law.
We
can't
talk
to
each
other,
except
up
here.
C
H
C
H
C
That's
why
I
open
this
up
for
questions
like
that
and-
and
you
know
well,
that's
just
something
I
did
because
I
haven't
had
the
chair
right
and
if
I
had
taken
bob
bob's,
pushing
me
into
the
chair
last
time
for
elections.
I
would
be
doing
that
still,
but
you
know,
and
and
I've
watched
this
development
idea
since
1995
I've
lived
here
since
1994.,
I
remember
when
they
call
this
area
blighted
and
there's
600
000
homes
on
lee
street.
C
C
I've
had
this
discussion
before
with
marie
and
felicia
and
and
st
oh
gosh,
I
miss
her.
I
miss
the
gals,
but
that
worked
in
planning
and
and
we're
developing
a
new
relationship
with
tatyana
and
and
miss
staff
over
here.
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
your
name
and
but,
as
this
goes
on,
we
will
gather
more
information.
That's
the
whole
point:
if
you
stay
on
this
board
long
enough,
I
mean
you
know:
bob's
been
here
30
years.
G
B
H
B
But
would
it
be
possible
because
what
I
heard
was
that
the
replotting,
for
example,
that
we
see
versus
not,
is
because
something
wasn't
perfect
so
to
know
what
that
so
much
for
understanding.
So
to
know
what
that
was
would
be
helpful.
You
know
this
doesn't
meet
this
criteria.
This
doesn't
meet
this
zoning
standard.
Just
so
that's
clear
without
having
to
read
all
of
everything
just
to
have
kind
of
a
one
sheet,
or
this
is
what
the
issue
is.
C
D
You
know,
and
I
went
to
the
office
one
time
and
and
to
her
credit
she
came
right
out
and
met
with
me.
I
don't
remember
what
my
client
but
the
other
question
I
was
going
to
ask
that
day
and
I
forgot:
does
anything
ever
come
to
the
planning
board
that
doesn't
have
your
support
and
and
if
so,
how
would
we
know
that?
F
Way,
I
was
taught
so
how
the
municipality
works,
how
the
system
at
the
city
of
oldsmar
operates
any
planning
cases
that
we
present
to
you
at
the
end.
We
have
to
provide
staff
recommendations.
So
it's
always
so
we
don't
just
present
to
you
and
let
you
decide
so.
Staff
always
has
to
come
up
with
a
conclusion
whether
or
not
it
meets
the
certain
sections
of
the
code
and
we've
done
our
evaluation.
We've
presented
the
report
based
on
certain
sections
of
the
code
and
was
they
correct.
I've.
E
G
C
A
One
one
more
thought:
if
you
guys
have
a
decoder
ring
of
all
the
acronyms
and
things:
oh
yes,
because
I
know
I
know
I
know
what
it's
like.
I'm
sure
you
guys
need
it
too,
but
if
you
have
something
that
you
could
share,
that
would
be
wonderful.
We,
this
is
like
light-hearted.
We
genuinely
joke
about
flow
charts
about
how
you're
supposed
to
work
in
times.
A
G
F
F
G
F
So
usually
it's
the
end
of
august,
so
we'll
be
notified,
we'll
be
given
a
year
advance
notice.
So
we
have
to
either
provide
a
letter
stating
that
our
code
is
in
compliance
and
we
don't
have
to
amend
any
sections
or
we
have
to
review,
do
a
comprehensive
review
and
then
send
for
all
the
elements,
and
I
believe
there
are
nine
elements
right
now.
So.
G
G
But
if
I
you
know,
I've
done
it
several
times
now,
but
ever
if
you,
if
you
look
at
it
and
listen
and
and
and
try
to
follow
the
logic
of
it,
it's
not
that
difficult,
and
these
guys
I
mean
they
know
what
they're
talking
about.
You
know
we
don't
you
know
we
we're
just
the
the
what
you
call
those
job
load,
citizens
or
whatever.
He
goes.
G
E
C
During
the
meeting
of
august
11
2021,
actually
one.