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Dear
lord,
please
guide
the
mayor
and
city
council
as
we
review
the
flood
ordinance
and
the
florida
building
code.
Technical
amendments
pertaining
to
the
flood
plain
management
guide
us
so
that
we
can
make
the
right
decisions
for
the
future
of
our
city,
and
we
thank
you
for
everything
you
do
for
us.
With
this.
We
pray,
amen.
A
Amen
in
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands,
one
nation,
under
god
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice.
Thank
you
please
be
seated.
Thank
you,
councilman
you're
welcome.
I
I
put
him
on
the
spot
at
the
last
minute,
because
I
I
didn't
realize
I
had
forgotten
that
our
city
attorney
was
not
able
to
be
here
today,
and
he
normally
does
that.
So
I
think
that
was
good
good
blessing.
Thank
you.
You're.
Welcome
all
right.
A
Is
there
anybody
on
this
side
of
the
room
who
wishes
to
make
any
public
comments
at
this
time
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
citizens,
open
forum
and
move
into
discussion
item
number
one
development
amendments
to
the
land
development
code
for
flood
related
matters.
When
we
get
into
this
we're
gonna
have
a
presentation.
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
the
city
manager,
who
can
kind
of
get
us
going.
Introducing
who
the
presentation
and
there's
gonna
be
just
a
reminder.
A
We
don't
take
an
actual
vote,
as
you
know,
because
we're
in
a
work
session
what
we
will
do-
and
this
is
kind
of
a
unique
path
that
we're
going
with
these
this
these
ordinances
and
this
this
report
only
because
of
the
time
restraints
that
we're
under
so
we'll
go
through
it,
we'll
we'll
look
to
do
things
by
consensus
and
then
it
will
ultimately
be
a
staff's
job
to
move
forward
with
that
consensus
and
moving
on
to
the
planning
board
and
bring
it
back
to
us
and
all
that
good
stuff.
A
D
D
Our
planning
and
development
director,
tatiana
childress
has
a
presentation
for
you
and
she's
very
nervous,
so
be
nice,
but
it's
pretty
straightforward,
she's
very
well
prepared,
and
I
can
tell
you
the
personal
experience
being
a
finance
guy.
I
saw
the
staff
report
before
you
guys
got
it.
I
learned
more
in
this
thing
that
I
knew
about
the
whole
subject.
She
did
a
fabulous
job
of
researching
it
to
make
us
all.
Smarter
was
the
purpose
of
this.
Obviously,
the
goal
is
to
let
the
benefit
of
your
decisions.
D
E
Oh
sure,
good
afternoon,
council
members
mayor,
so
we
have
a
new
planner.
Her
name
is
elena
delgado.
E
A
A
Excuse
me,
we
do
not
have
our
mask
on
up
here
because
we're
spread
out
and
since
we
do
not
really
have
but
a
few
people
in
the
chamber,
everybody
is
already
spread
out,
and
so
I
think
it's
okay.
If
you
don't
want
to
wear
your
mask
because
you
don't
have
anybody,
that's
even
eight
feet.
Next
to
how
it
looks
like
that,
we
will
leave
to
you
there
you
go.
The
show
is
yours.
E
E
Just
a
quick
overview
city
of
oldsmar
joined
the
nfip
in
1971
as
a
participating
community,
partisan
participating
communities
agreed
to
title
44
of
the
code
of
federal
regulations,
which
specifies
minimum
requirements
for
structures
protection
under
the
mfap
anytime.
When
fema
updates
maps
participating
communities
must
either
show
the
nfp
compliance
or
ordnance
update.
E
Those
communities
that
do
more
than
minimum
requirement
are
being
rewarded
by
fema.
In
a
way
there
is
an
established
community
rating
system.
Currently
city
of
oldsmar
is
class
six
with
about
with
roughly
2
000
verified
points
during
our
last
verification
cycle
was
within
2019
no
2018
fema
verified
roughly
2149
points
crs
points.
E
Lfd
the
city
received
the
letter
of
final
determination
on
february,
24,
2021
and
participating
municipalities
have
six
months
to
adopt
new
maps
or
demonstrate
evidence
of
nfip
compliance
based
on
those
new
based
on
new
firm
data.
The
last
flood
ordinance
was
ordinance
2015-16,
it
was
updated
on
may
3rd
was
adopted
on
may
3rd
2016..
E
The
representative
from
the
florida
department
of
invert
emergency
management
initiates
ordinance
review
for
compliance,
so
we've
been
contacted
prior
at
actually
even
prior
rece
to
receiving
the
lfd
letter
final
determination,
we've
been
contacted
by
dem
representative
and
we've
been
advised
that
there
are
several
several
items
on
the
current
ordinance
that
needed
to
be
updated.
E
The
next
slide
includes
proposed
amendments,
and
I'm
just
gonna
read
these
and
then
we're
gonna
go
into
more
detail
on
each
slide
and,
as
I
go
through
like
more
detailed
on
each
slide,
I
would
like
some
kind
of
questions
from
the
council
members.
So
the
first
is
the
limitation
of
accessory
structures
to
600
square
feet.
E
This
is
a
new
requirement
by
by
nfip.
The
second
one
is
one
foot
of
freeboard
for
manufactured
homes
to
make
the
class
prerequisite
sarah's
prerequisite
include
previously
in
the
third
amendment
is
to
include
previously
adopted
amendments
to
florida
building
code.
E
So
the
first
one
is
the
limitation
of
accessory
structures.
Female
policy
1040803
limits
the
size
of
detached
accessory
structures
in
zone
ae
to
600
square
feet.
They
actually
don't
specify
the
exact
size
of
that
structure.
They
they
just
state
that
it
should
be
a
size
of
a
one
storey,
two
car
garages
and
in
ve
that's
a
hundred
square
foot
limitation.
E
Accessory
structures
can
only
be
used
for
parking
and
limited
storage
and
they
must
be
wet
flood
proofed
and
include
flood
openings
or
flood
vents
to
protect
the
structure
from
hydrostatic
pressure.
As
shown
in
this
picture,
this
is
a
picture
of
a
flood
vent.
So
when
the
flood,
when
the
water
reaches
a
certain
flood
level,
the
vent
opens
and
the
water
just
freely
flows
into
that
structure,
not
causing
the
hydrostatic
pressure
on
that
structure
and
protecting
it.
Obviously,
the
contents
of
that
structure
they
will
be
all
ruined
or
flood
damaged.
E
However,
the
structure
will
remain
supposed
to
remain
intact.
You're
required
to
have
one
one
of
those
flood
vents
for
every
200
square
feet
of
enclosed
area
for
anything
below
the
bfe.
E
E
They
have
to
be
installed
at
least
one
foot
above
the
adjacent
grade,
see
if
we're
missing
anything
else.
Oh
and
the
structure,
the
accessory
structure
has
also
meet
the
definitions
of
a
structure
in
fema
terms,
which
means
that
if
you
at
least
have
two
walls,
an
attached
roof,
that's
your
structure!
So
if
you
have
a
pavilion,
for
instance,
with
poles,
then
it's
not
a
structure.
E
You,
if
you
have
any
questions
so
yes,
so
we
can
pause
here
and
I
can
take
some
questions
if
you
have
so.
This
is
again
just
wanted
to
remind
this
is
a
policy
initiated
by
fema
for
to
reduce
the
accessory
structure
to
600
square
feet?
So
if
we
don't
comply,
we
could
be
placed
on
probation,
probation.
A
E
So
if
a
carport
has
two
vertical
walls,
then
it
will
be
considered
a
structure,
but
if
the
walls
are
open,
then
technically
not
well.
A
B
E
This
is
basically
for
us
when
we
adopt
maps
in
august
of
2021,
so
this
this
is
moving
forward.
Yes,.
E
No,
so
those
will
be,
I
hate
to
use
the
term
grandfathered
in,
but
yes
they,
if
the
hurricane
comes
through
and
their
structure
is
demolished,
I
mean
is,
is
destroyed.
Then
they
can't
rebuild
the
same
structure,
so
it
will
have
to
be
either
elevated
or
have
those
flood
vents
and
be
limited
to
600
square
feet.
Only.
I
understood
thank.
A
You,
and
so
that,
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
rest
of
the
stuff
we're
going
to
go
over,
I
would
assume
that
applies
to
everything
that
we're
discussing,
meaning
anything
that
we
pass
in
the
future.
It's
not
something
that
would,
of
course,
would
be
retroactive
going
back,
certainly
if
somebody
loses
substantially
all
or
the
value
of
their
home.
A
E
So
the
50
rule
would
apply
to
your
current
primary
structure.
These
are
accessory
structures
unless
you
insure
those
that's
when
the
insurance
and
50
will
come
in
place.
If
not,
then
you
will
just
be.
E
B
E
A
E
Thank
you.
So
the
next
amendment
is
the
free
board
requirement
for
manufacturing
homes.
Crs
has
minimum
prerequisites
for
crs
class
8.,
so
fema
established
a
set
of
crs
requirements
for
class
8
and
one
photo
free
board
is
being
one
of
them.
This
requirement
includes
one
foot
of
freeboard
for
manufactured
homes
located
within
the
special
flight
hazard
area.
E
E
E
In
fema
terms,
however,
so
the
free
board
is
measured
differently
for
coastal
a
zone
and
for
v
zones.
So
the
free
board
is
the
distance
between
the
base
flight
elevation
and
your
first
livable
space
or
first
floor
of
the
livable
space.
It
is
measured
different
in
coastal,
a
or
in
a
zones.
The
free
board
is
measured
between
the
bfe
and
the
top
of
the
lowest
floor.
So
this
is
your
lowest
member,
and
this
is
your
base
flood.
So
you
have.
A
free
board
is
measured
here
in
the
v
zone.
E
It's
more
it's
more
restrictive,
so
free
board
is
measured
between
the
bfe
and
the
bottom
of
the
lowest
horizontal
structure,
and
that's
important
to
note,
as
we
move
forward
with
the
coastal
a
because,
since
florida
building
code
treats
coastal
a
as
v.
So
that's
how
the
freeboard
is
going
to
be
measured
in
any
of
the
coastal
a
areas
as
well.
So
it's
going
to
be
measured
to
the
lowest
horizontal
member
of
your
house,
not
the
finished
floor
as
you
walk
in.
E
This
is
just
a
graphic,
since
this
particular
requirement
is
for
manufacturing
homes.
We
only
have
one
established
manufacturing
home
community,
which
is
galer
where
currently
even
per
florida,
building
code
you're
allowed
to
have
the
existing
structure
to
be
three
feet
above
the
grade,
not
above
bfe
but
above
the
finished
grade.
So
not
that
requirement
is
going
away
with
this
class.
Eight
prerequisites
so
now
that
if
you're
in
a
galler
president-
and
you
wanted
to
rebuild
your
house,
you
will
have
to
elevate
it
at
least
one
foot
above
that
bfe.
E
It's
a
good
thing
for
galera
village.
If
you
look
at
their
map
they're,
not
that
low
they're,
not
as
low
as
our
shore
area
they're
already
at
a
elevation
10
and
their
bfe
is
about
11..
So
one
foot
of
board
is
going
to
be
maybe
12.
before
they
were
at
elevation
10.
They
would
have
to
elevate
the
structure
to
13.
so
they're,
actually,
it's
beneficial
for
them
and
they're
not
going
to
hurt
as
a
community
because
of
this
new
amendment.
E
However,
outside
of
the
flood
zone,
I
don't
have
a
graphic
here
to
show,
but
some
of
these
manufacturing
homes
they
could
be
elevated
up
to
bfe
plus
one
on
shore.
If
you
want
to
put
a
manufacturing
home
on
shore
where
the
bfe
is
six,
I
mean
where
the
finished
ground
is
six
and
bfe
is
going
to
be
14,
so
your
manufacturing
homes
will
have
to
be
elevated
to
on
stilts
or
something
else.
E
This
is
just
an
informational
slide.
It
shows
you
how
that
freeboard,
since
we
kind
of
like
covered
the
freeboard,
affects
your
flood
insurance
rate.
One
foot
of
freeboard,
which
is
what
we
have
normally
in
florida,
will
give
you
25
percent
discount
two
two
feet
that
will
be
fifty
percent
and
so
on.
So,
as
you
can
see
the
more
freeboard
you
get
the
lower
your
flood
insurance,
so
it
could
be
between
400
dollars
a
year
if
you're
four
feet,
above
all
the
way
to
8000.
A
E
I
know
there's
one
on
bayview,
it's
not
exactly
on
shore
kind
of
like
bayview
and
in
centipede
drive,
it's
kind
of
like.
C
It
was
just
I
was
wondering
if
we
wouldn't
have,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
restrictions
as
to
putting
them
on
short
drive,
but
in
light
of
the
fact,
with
the
sea
levels
that
are
rising
and
the
flood
costs
that
are
going
to
be
there.
If
that
would
be
something
we
consider.
I
was
just
going
through
that
in
my
head,
as
we
were
talking
about
it,
you
know.
A
E
A
C
E
B
E
So
this
is
not
an
nfip.
We
will
not
be
put
on
probation
if
we
don't
comply,
but
we'll
be
revert,
we'll
we'll
be
placed
to
class
nine.
If
we
don't
introduce
this
so
we'll
be
placed
on
class
nine,
I
don't
want
to
be.
A
E
A
Three
pre-boards:
do
I
reap
the
benefit
individually.
E
A
Okay,
so
even
if
we're
making
these,
you
know
a
little
bit
stricter
that
benefits
everyone,
an
individual
could
elect
to
say.
Well,
listen
I
want
to
get
up
to
67
percent
and
go
up
40..
A
And
some
of
this
for
us
becomes
such
a
a
crazy
balancing
act
because
you
take,
you
know
somebody
who's
been
living
there
for
a
while
somebody
buys
a
house,
they
elect
to
tear
it
down
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden
they
have
to
go
way
up,
and
some
of
our
people
have
been
upset
about
well
geez,
you're,
approving
these
homes
that
are
monsters
next
to
mine
and
you're.
Like
it's,
it's
fema,
you
know
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
things.
A
E
So
in
this
slide,
we'll
cover
the
previously
adopted
florida
building
code
amendments
in
section
four,
five
and
six
of
ordinance
2015-16
on
pages
47
and
55.
You
should
have
a
copy
of
that
ordinance
by
the
way.
In
case
you,
yes,
so
those
pages
were
emitted
from
the
munich
code.
Somehow
staff
is
proposing
to
place
previously
adopted
technical
amendments
to
florida,
building
code
in
article
6
of
the
code
of
ordinances,
and
some
of
the
previous
amendments
will
be
modified,
so
some
of
them
are
no
longer
valid.
E
E
So
these
amendments-
I
listed
a
few
of
them
here,
so
that
will
be
r322.
That's
2-1,
r3
322-2-2.
This
one
is
particular
for
ae
zones.
We
have
the
removal
of
the
299
limitation
enclosure
below
dfe
from
that
particular
section
of
the
code
and
then
r322-3,
there's
five,
that's
pertaining
to
the
v
zones.
That's
the
enclosure
areas
below
design
flood,
and
this
will
item
will
be
discussed
later.
That's
a
consideration
to
allow
breakaway
walls
but
item
three.
All
we're
actually
voting
for
now
is
just
to
move
all
of
these
amendments.
E
Florida,
high
florida
building
code,
amendments
into
the
article
six
of
the
code
of
ordinances.
A
E
Thank
you
so
next
slide
covers
those
modifications
of
enclosures
below
elevated
residential
dwellings,
we're
suggesting
to
remove
the
299
enclosure
limitation
from
florida
building
code,
section,
r,
322-2-2,
enclosed
areas
below
dfe.
E
The
benefits
of
this,
the
clear
area
below
the
dfe,
protect
structural
integrity
and
discourage
owners
from
converting
area
to
livable
space
or
storing
costly,
hazardous
materials.
Additional
hundred
serious
points
for
ae
or
up
to
150
points
for
coastal
a
are
available
when
breakaway
walls
are
not
permitted.
E
The
limitation
of
this
consideration,
the
299
enclosure
below
dfe,
is
more
appropriate
from
v
and
coastal
a
zones.
It
does
not
provide
adequate
space
for
the
enclosed
garage
below
the
gfe,
and
this
policy
was
not
fully
enforced
in
ae
zone
since
its
adoption
in
2016..
We're
not
sure
why
but
work.
We
think
we're
pretty
sure
that
it's
because
it's
more
appropriate
from
v
and
coastal
a
and
that's
where
it
needed
to
be
placed
back
in
2015
under
the
v
standards
rather
than
ae
the
next,
the
following
slides.
E
E
and
330
shore
drive
permit
was
issued
on
december
15
2017.,
as
you
can
tell
all
of
these
homes.
They
have
either
the
garage
enclosure
with
the
living
space
above
it,
which
is
way
above
the
299
enclosure
or
the
entire
first
floor,
enclosed
and
used
as
parking
storage
or
access
again.
This
is
way
more
than.
E
E
So
the
again,
the
suggestion
was
to
remove
the
299
square
foot,
enclosure
limitation
from
from
the
building
florida
building
code,
section
r322-2-2.
A
C
A
D
Grant
done
okay,
so
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
the
third
one,
but
346
and
348
are
infamous,
in
my
mind,
we're
not
totally
sure
because
we
were
dancing
with
the
state
throughout
the
process
of
all
of
those
and
felicia.
Could
you
just
quickly
give
us,
maybe
a
reader's
digest
version
of
why
we're
recommending
that
the
299
removal
kind
of
in
the
common
sense
scenario?
F
Sure
we're
recommending
elimination
of
the
299
requirement,
because,
philosophically
all
the
houses
are
going
to
have
what
could
be
garage
space
underneath
right,
we
have
to
build
them
all
up.
So
a
299
enclosure
would
only
allow
you
to
park
one
car,
maybe
none.
It's
very
small.
F
The
average
garage
is
about
400
square
feet
just
to
give
some
reference,
so
this
is
a
balance
between
allowing
the
property
owners,
maybe
to
use
a
breakaway
wall
system
and
under
so
that
you
can
park
underneath
your
house
because
technically
right
now,
you
we
have
a
299
square
foot
limit
which
isn't
really
enough
to
do
that.
So
there's
a
balance
between
having
the
most
amount
of
points
available
and
a
balance
between
what
our
homeowners
would
maybe
would
like
to
see
on
their
homes
and
and
these
low-lying
areas.
D
A
You
know
I
don't
know,
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
for
the
extra
effort
for
today,
because
I
don't
know
that
this
kind
of
educational
experience
or
or
time
was
put
into
it
back
when
they
passed
that
limitation.
A
You
know
sometimes
when
we
get
overwhelmed
with
a
lot
of
different,
especially
when
there's
a
lot
of
changes
going
on
it's
easy
to
miss
a
detail,
as
you
know,
being
the
a
professional
volunteer
versus
a
professional
staff,
and
so
I
think
it's
good
that
it's
being
pointed
out
to
us,
because
it
probably
was
an
error
to
approve
a
change.
A
A
E
C
E
E
And
back
in
2015,
this
was
placed
under
ae
and
ae.
If
you
think
about
like
new
construction
taking
place
on
washington,
they
have
a
garage
with
which
is
partially
under
underneath
the
footprint
of
the
house,
but
in
fema
terms
you
don't
use
a
garage
term.
You
use
the
area
below
the
elevated
structure
used
for
parking
storage
access,
so
unless
you're
sharing
just
one
wall
with
that
main
structure,
anything
underneath
is
considered
to
be
again
enclosed
area
below
the
residential,
elevated
structures
and
that
was
limited
to
299.
E
So
these
new
homes
on
washington,
they
were
not
able
to
build
your
typical
home
with
the
garage
underneath
or
even
the
garage
slightly.
You
know
in
the
front
because
it
garage
would
be
more
than
299
square
feet,
so
it
limits
where
it
might
be
very
much
appropriate
for
v
zone
and
coastal
a
as
your
higher
standard,
so
that
is
so
open
when
flood,
but
in
ae
zone.
If
anything,
then
it
should
be
removed
from
the
ae
zone.
That's
my
opinion.
E
E
E
I'll,
just
briefly
mention
what
the
breakaway
wall
is.
So
a
breakaway
wall
is
a
wall
that
does
not
provide
structural
support
and,
under
certain
wind
and
load,
is
intended
to
collapse
without
causing
damage
to
the
main
structure.
These
walls
are
required
by
code
by
florida,
building
code
and
ve
and
coastal
a
zones
currently
today.
So
if
you
have
coastal
a
on
the
map
ve
zone,
you
must
have
them
coastal
a
you
must
have
them,
including
the
flood
bands.
E
We
in
our
current
ordinance
do
not
allow
breakaway
walls,
however,
so
these
are
just
pictures.
So
this
is
your
elevated
structure,
breakaway
wall
supposed
to
collapse.
This
picture
demonstrate
how
a
breakaway
wall,
when
it's
not
designed
properly,
because
breakaway
walls
they
have
to
be
engineered
specially
engineered.
So
this
breakaway
wall,
somebody
just
attached,
probably
some
stronger
attachment
to
the
main
structure
and
it
destroyed
the
tip
part
of
the
wall.
From
that
main
structure,
however,
the
picture
above
you
can
see
that
breakaway
walls
were
gone,
they
removed
the
debris
and
everything
the
structure.
B
It
seems
as
though
the
intent
with
those
is
to
help
reduce
any
hydrostatic
loading
on
the
structure.
So
why
one,
I
guess,
did
do
we
not,
or
did
we
not
allow
them?
We
don't
right
now
and
then
also.
Why
would
it
increase
insurance
premiums
if
it's
at
least
how
I
see
is
a
beneficial
thing?
I'm
kind
of
confused.
E
People
tend
once
it's
enclosed
people
tend
to
store
some
valuable
materials
beneath
or
they
may
be
even
converting
that
structure
to
something
other
than
storage
access
parking.
So
fema
gives
extra
points
for
those
communities
that
remove
the
breakaway
walls
and
also
this
requirement
was
applied
together
with
the
299
limitation
enclosure
limitation,
because
in
fema
terms,
breakaway
walls
are
considered
to
be
enclosure.
So,
even
though
they're
supposed
to
break
they're
still
in
closure
and
not
permanent,
yes,
so.
D
E
In
addition,
they
had
some
limitations
to
the
florida
building
code
where
okay,
it's
a
breakaway
wall,
but
I
can
put
a
hurricane-rated
window,
in
which
case
my
hurricane-rated
window
is
not
going
to
actually
break
so
when
you
do
have
flood,
then
the
entire
breakaway
wall
could
start
floating
with
that
window
attached
to
it,
if
not
properly.
So
they
require
engineered
certification
that
the
breakaway
wall
would
collapse
under
the
certain
wind
loads.
So
they
are
more
of
a
hazard.
A
And
so
I'll
share
with
you
really
quickly
a
real
world
story,
my
neighbor
around
the
corner,
who's.
His
property
goes
next
to
the
kumar's
property.
A
If
you
all
know
where
that
is,
and
so
he's
looking
to
do,
some
he
owns
he's
got
his
house
he's
got
a
lot
and
then
he's
got
another
house
that
his
father
lives
on
on
the
corner
and
he's
looking
to
do
some
stuff
to
sell
one
of
the
sell
the
big
house
build
on
the
other
and
he
you
know
he
came
to
me
just
perplexed
and
he's
like
listen.
A
A
We
could
move
up
just
enough
where
he
could
do
something,
but
he
was
complaining
a
little
bit
about
being,
I
said:
well,
I
think
you
know
we're
talking
about
these
things
and
there
might
be
the
opportunity
to
do
something
with
breakaway,
where
you
could
in
fact
have
a
garage,
and
I
I
think
the
council
probably
will
agree
that
limiting
limiting
it
to
299
square
feet
is
probably
not
reasonable,
blah
blah
blah
and
so
for
him.
It's
it's
a
great
real
world
example
of
where
you
know
he
wants
to.
A
He
already
owns
the
property,
but
he
hasn't
built
on
it
yet,
and
so
now
he's
gonna
have
to
face
it
and
we
kind
of
boxed
him
with
the
with
what
we
passed
in
2016
and
with
some
of
the
changes
taking
place.
A
You
know
in
the
breakaway
wall,
shouldn't
from
a
practical
standpoint,
be
a
big
deal
to
anybody
and
here's
the
logic
living
there.
Okay,
if
it
floods
over
there.
A
Everything
on
the
first
floor
is
trashed.
Okay
and
it's
just
it
is
what
it
is.
I
mean
you
know
that
I
mean
so,
at
least,
if
you
have
a
breakaway
wall
because
because
tommy
my
neighbor,
he
goes
well.
You
know
all
my
stuff's
going
to
be
trashed.
I
said
partner,
all
your
stuff's
going
to
be
trashed
if
it
happens
anyhow,
but
what
this
does
potentially
saves
your
structure
yeah,
and
so
it's
a
smart
yeah.
Just
let
it
go.
A
E
E
E
E
If
we
mention
that
in
the
non-conversion
agreement
that
the
city
is
going
to
inspect
it
once
per
year,
we
can
get
up
to
90
points
option
two.
If
we
grant
the
right
to
inspect
at
any
time,
we'll
get
60
points
and
option
three
is
the
agreement
does
not
mention
inspections
at
all.
We
only
get
30
crs
points.
E
This
is
the
item
that
we
would
like
to
for
the
council
members
to
consider
as
well
so
which
option
you
would
like
to
consider
for
the
community
or
which
options
is
more
practical.
I
guess.
E
So
the
inspections
will
be
primarily
what
the
planetary
development
department
is
a
floodplain
coordinator.
Maybe
code
enforcement,
so
we
haven't
decided
yet.
But
if
we
decide
that
it's
going
to
be
once
a
year,
then
it's
going
to
be
obviously
on
the
log.
So
someone
if
we
have
200
homes
that
we
have
to
go
on
a
yearly
basis
and
inspect.
That
puts
you
two
inspections
per
week.
So
it's
a
task.
E
B
E
A
good
option,
so
we
can
definitely
there
is
a
draft
version
of
a
non-conversion
agreement
attached
to
the
staff
report
at
the
end.
So
if
you
have
any
comments
or
suggestions
for
that
non-conversion
agreement,
we
can
definitely
modify
the.
B
Only
reason
why
I'm
asking
is
this
is
a
huge
topic
with
short-term
rentals
that
we're
having
issues
with
on
the
beaches
and
stuff
that
the
department
of
for
the
short-term
rentals
wants
to
come
and
do
inspections,
and
they
want
they're
trying
to
figure
that
out.
So
I
was
just
very
curious
on
how
we
would
handle
that.
So
thank
you.
A
D
Well,
first
thing
I
would,
after
hearing
from
council
was
one
of
the
things
comes.
To
my
mind,
is
we
have
to
decide
how
badly
we
need
the
points?
I
personally
think
that
option.
One
is
probably
the
most
realistic
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
catch
somebody
that
did
it
illegally,
but
I
don't
know
that.
That's
something
I
necessarily
want
to
specialize
in
doing,
because
we're
complaint
driven
largely
for
code
violations,
so
this
would
almost
have
to
be
done.
D
The
same
way
where
somebody
would
have
to
call
us
and
say:
hey
somebody's
got
a
bathroom
on
the
ground
floor.
Go
look
at
it,
so
I'm
not
excited
about
that
because
of
the
general
way
we
do
these
things,
but
I
don't
practically
think
option.
Three
is
realistic
and
option
two
is,
I
think,
what
we
originally
intended
when
we
passed
the
other
ordinance,
so
I
I'd
say.
Obviously,
if
we
need
the
points,
then
we
go
with
option
one.
D
F
Yeah,
I
think
option
one
is,
I
think,
option
one
is
ambitious
and.
E
F
City
manager
has
just
said
it
is
our
best
way
to
actually,
you
know
find
somebody
who
has
violated
the
non-conversion
agreement.
It
does.
It
will
cost
staff
time
right
because
then
we'll
have
to
also
make
appointments
with
them.
We
can't
so
we've
got
to
find
people
when
they're
home
making
appointments
go
in
and
inspect,
and
then
you
know,
option
two
gives
us
the
right
to
inspect,
as
the
city
manager
said
at
any
time,
so
we
can.
F
If
we
got
a
a
call
or
complaint,
we
can
be
a
complaint
driven,
you're
you're,
really
talking
about
a
minor
set
of
points
compared
to
2
000
points.
We
have.
We
have
2149
points,
so
you
know
when
you're
thinking
about
that.
Just
think
about
the
scale
of
the
difference
of
the
points.
D
E
Would
be
code
enforcement,
so
they
will
have
to
since
they
file
that
would
deed
and
some
some
of
these
may
come
up
as
people
want
to
sell
homes.
So
if
you
end
up
having
a
bathroom
in
the
enclosed
area
below
a
bfe,
then
it
will
be
a
code
enforcement
and
a
building
violation,
so
at
which
point
a
life
safety.
D
If
we
take
that
route,
you
know
the
first
thought
I
have
is
sometimes
if
you
have
to
make
an
appointment
to
have
an
inspection
whatever
they
got
wrong.
We
got
time
to
clean
it
up
if
they
have
an
illegal
bathroom
on
the
ground
floor.
There's
they're
not
going
to
be
much
by
the
time
we
get
there,
but.
B
Go
ahead
so,
basically,
it
kind
of
sounds
like
we're:
teetering
between
option
one
and
twos
of
a
difference
of
30
points.
So
based
on
that
thought
of
the
total
amount
of
crs
I
mean,
is
it?
Are
we
at
risk
of
falling
to
a
lower
class
over
30
points.
E
We
might
our
recertification
will
be
the
last
one
was
a
2018,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
years.
A
The
other,
the
other
thing
to
that,
because
we
had
this
discussion
before
the
meeting,
and
that
is
that
there
are
areas
for
us
to
go.
Look
for
ways
for
more
points,
because,
what's
going
to
happen
with
this
new
flood
maps,
we
unfortunately
are
going
to
have
a
lot
more
property
that
is
in
higher
risk
areas,
and
so
there
you
know,
as
it
was
described
or
explained
to
me,
there's
different
areas
that
you
get
points
from.
One
of
the
buckets
is
what
I
would
call
maintenance
of.
A
C
Greater
do
you
have
I.
I
was
just
looking
because
in
the
in
the
draft
of
the
ordinance
itself,
it
says
by
executing
the
agreement,
the
owner
agrees
the
periodic
inspections
and
so
option
three.
That
was
just
to
the
point
of
I
don't
think
we
have
an
option
for
option
three,
and
just
with
what
the
assistant
city
manager
said,
option
one
is
ambitious,
because.
D
It
requires
staff
time
and
again,
if
we're
largely
complaint
driven
for
code
enforcement,
which
is
a
fancy
way
of
saying
we
don't
run
around
looking
for
cases,
okay
it.
If
that
was
the
issue
for
code
enforcement,
and
this
was
going
to
be
an
element
of
code
enforcement,
you
really
got
to
be
looking
for
it
because
you
won't
see
it
readily,
even
if
you
drive
by
so
ambitious
in
the
sense
that
if
we
really
wanted
to
police
it,
it
would
take
a
significant
effort
and
I'll
tell
you,
I
mean
just
my
experience.
D
It's
out
there
there's
it's,
it's
not
uncommon
right
now,
so
I
mean,
I
think,
ambitious
in
a
sense.
We'd
probably
have
to
put
more
resources
towards
enforcing
it
and
for
30
points.
At
this
point
I
don't
know
that
I
think
it's
going
to
make
or
break
us,
but
you
know
we
might
be
down
the
road
to
your
point
needing
the
points
and
you
could
always
amend
it
again
if
you
had
to,
but.
A
Yeah
all
right,
yeah-
and
you
know
just
from
my
own-
I'm
I'm
advocating
for
b,
because
the
30
points
first
off,
where
we're
at
point
wise.
It
wouldn't
have
an
impact
on
us
now.
A
No,
it's
got
a
b
or
c
on
our
document
yeah.
I
agree
with
beats:
oh
yeah,
okay,
yeah.
I
was
looking
at
our
document
yeah
too
b2
to
be.
In
any
event,
I
think
it
just
makes
more
sense,
and
certainly
where
we're
at
from
a
point
standpoint.
We
do
have
some.
E
A
Yeah
and
they
thought
it
was
yeah
and
the
thought
of
us
frankly,
you
know,
I
know
that
we
have
some
homeowners
associations
in
oldsmar
and
you
know
people
bought
their
homes.
Knowing
that
and
like
that,
then
you
have
a
lot
of
places.
People
don't
want
to
be
in
a
homeowner's
association
environment,
and
you
know
when
we
start
doing
annual
inspections
and
stuff
like
that,
we're
becoming
a
homeowner's
association.
I'm
sorry
and
that's
you
know
if
you
want
that,
it's
probably
we
what
you'd
pick
somewhere
like
that
to
live.
A
We
have
all
we
got
all
the
options
here,
all
right,
so
we've
got
I'm
going
to
assume
that
it's
staff's
recommendation
that
we
adopt
a
b
and
c
in
our
report.
Correct.
Yes,.
E
A
So
I'm
gonna
see
if
we
have
a
consensus,
do
we
have
a
consensus
to
support
a
b
and
c
and
c
being
with
item
whether
it's
option
two
on
the
slide,
but
it's
b
in
the
report.
We
agree
on
that
yep.
Okay,
very
good.
Thank
you.
E
E
We'll
still
continue
getting
our
100
serious
points
for
ae
and
up
to
150
and
coastal
a
alternative
two
here
would
we
would
remove
the
299
enclosure
limitation
form
ae
only
and
keep
it
into
v
and
coastal
a.
We
believe
that
this
was
the
intent
of
the
original
ordinance
in
2016
and
then
option
alternative
three
would
be
to
remove
the
299
limitation
enclosure
below
the
gfe
and
introduce
a
non-conversion
agreement
in
all
flood
zones
also
allow
the
use
of
breakaway
walls
and
coastal
a
and
ve.
E
So
the
next
slide
covers
coastal
a
zone
prior
to
this
new
map.
So
we
did
not
have
coastal
liaison
delineated
on
our
farm
maps,
the
new
maps
established
the
coastal
a-zone
cavs
and
limit
to
moderate
wave
action
which
delineates
the
cows.
Limon
is
a
wave
height
between
1.5
and
3
feet
during
a
base
flood
event.
Flora
building
code
requires
buildings
constructed
to
ve
zone
standards.
However,
allowing
two
exceptions
first
exception
is
to
allow
backfilled
stem
wall
or
dry.
The
second
one
is
dry
flood
proofing
of
non-residential
buildings.
E
This
graphic
shows
here
this
coastal
a
this
is
a
limbuan.
We
also
have
it
on
our
flop
maps
and
the
following
graph.
It
just
shows
the
overall
special
thought,
hazard
hazard
area
and
how
it's
broken
down
into
different
zones.
So
here
you
have
your
v
e
zone
where
the
wave
height
could
be
over
three
feet.
Then
your
ae
zone
up
to
limboir,
that's
where
the
waves
are
three
to
between
three
and
one
and
a
half
foot
ae
where
the
waves
are
less
than
half
a
feet
and
adjacent
zone
is
the
limit
of
base.
E
E
E
This
is
again
just
an
overview,
so
this
is
your
coastal
a
zone
or
your
ae
where
they
fill
and
the
continuous
stem
wall
is
allowed
with
flood
vans
in
your
coastal,
a
zone,
you
have
the
backfilled
stem
wall,
so
the
area
below
the
bfe
or
below
the
elevated
structure
will
not
be
able
to.
You
will
not
be
able
to
use
that
structure
for
parking
access.
It
will
have
to
be
filled
with
gravel
or
dirt,
and
these
two
options
there
are
ve
that
are
also
acceptable
in
coastal
a.
E
Horizontal
in
the
ve
zone,
the
finished
floor
elevation
is
measured
to
the
bottom
of
the
lowest
horizontal
structure,
plus
one
photo
free
board.
So
this
is
very
important
to
note
here,
because
it's
not
just
the
b
of
e
plus
one
is
b
v,
plus
one
plus,
whatever
your
floor,
framing,
plus
whatever
that
measurement
of
that
bottom
of
the
lowest
horizontal
structure,
how
it's
affecting
oldsmar
well
in
some
of
our
areas
in
coastal,
a
and
v
e
already
at
elevation,
six
or
seven.
E
So
then
the
new
dfe
or
bfe
baseball
elevation
on
the
new
maps
might
be
elevation,
14
or
15..
When
you
add
another
photo
free
board,
your
elevation
16,
maybe
with
your
horizontal,
lower
low
horizontal
member.
So
that
means
that
for
the
back
filled,
stem
wall,
you'll
have
to
bring
up
to
six
or
seven
or
eight
foot
of
fill
to
fill
the
perimeter
of
the
entire
foundation.
E
We
just
think
that
it's
not
practical
for
oldsmar
community
to
allow
that
and
while
doing
that,
we
can
also
get
up
to
500
crs
points,
but
remember
florida,
building,
code
right
now,
they're
allowing
they're
pushing
the
v
they're
you're
required
to
use
the
ve
standards
and
coastal
a.
However
they're
allowing
you
two
provisions.
Those
two
provisions
would
be
this
backfield
stem
wall
and
dry
dry
flood
proofing
of
non-residential,
but
this
is
not
exactly
practical
for
us.
E
A
E
A
A
A
But
when
you
start
talking
about
some
of
these
homes,
where
they're
building
up
and
they're
going
up
going
to
be
going
up,
13
14
feet
and
then
you
would
not
have
the
to
have
a
stem
wall,
then
you
would
not
have
a
garage
under
it.
You
would
have
no
usable
space
under
it.
So
I
mean
it's.
This
to
me
is
a
very
practical
vote.
We'd.
A
A
I
have
a
stem
wall
that
I
did,
but
I
built
2003
somewhere
around
there,
but
I
still
had
to
bring
along
yeah
and
can
I
tell
you
something
I
kind
of
regret
it
I
do
I
do.
I
would
rather
go
on
a
player.
A
You
know
I'll
tell
you
that
bruce
bruce
haddock
story
one
day
because
I
didn't
want
to
do
it
at
all.
I
just
wanted
to
remodel
what
was
there
yeah
and
I
ran
in
that's
when
I
learned
about
the
50
percent
rule
and
bruce
haddick
told
me
man,
I
looked
right
around
the
corner
from
me.
He
was
the
city
manager
at
the
time
and
he's
you
you're
going
to
build
right
there
and
you're
not
going
to
build
up.
A
You
will
regret
it,
and
so
I
you
know
I
got
mad
and
left,
but
he
and
I
thought
about
it
and
I
didn't
I
wasn't
willing
to
play
any
kind
of
games
with
permitting
and
stuff.
So
I
I
said
to
the
contractor
one
day:
we're
there
and
they're
telling
me
I
could
do
this.
I
could
do
that
to
get
around
it
and
I'm,
like
you,
know
what
just
tear
it
down:
tear
the
whole
thing
down,
we're
gonna!
Do
it
right!
I
want
what
I
want.
I
remember
driving
away
thinking
to
myself.
A
I
don't
have
the
money
to
do
that.
What
I
just
you
know,
that's
not
what
I
got
approved
for
and
then
fast
forward.
I
don't
know
six
months
later
and
we're
drying
in
and
along
come
the
three
hurricanes
and
I'm
out
there
and
my
waves
are
breaking
against
the
back
of
the
house.
I
saw
bruce
haddock,
I
don't
know
a
week
later
and
I
said
you
were
right.
I
was
wrong,
so
it
makes
sense
good,
for
you
know
long
term.
A
B
A
B
Tatiana,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
this
presentation.
Not
only
was
this
memo
and
staff
report
very
helpful,
but
the
additional
photographs
and
the
sort
of
demonstrative
photographs
are
very
helpful
to
me.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
this
area
so
seeing
the
examples
is
very
helpful,
like
this
is
a
breakaway
wall,
how
it's
supposed
to
work.
This
is
a
breakaway
wall
that
broke
away
part
of
the
house
bad.
I
appreciate
the
real
life
examples
and
the
pictures
from
houses
around
oldsmar,
so
I
can
put
it
in
perspective.
A
It
was
an
excellent
job.
Thank
you
very
well
done,
and
you
know
maybe
we
could
get
that
up.
You
guys
one
of
the
supporting
documents
for
the
meeting,
because
if
somebody
wants
more
information,
it's
a
great
way
for
them
to
go,
educate
themselves
on
that's
what
this
all
means,
and
so
anyway,
good
job.