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A
B
Our
heavenly
father,
as
we
strive
to
serve
the
people
of
the
city
of
oldsmore
this
afternoon,
we
ask
not
for
your
concern
for
us,
but
for
the
men
and
women
of
the
united
states
armed
forces
who
face
danger
every
day
to
protect
us
as
we
exercise
our
rights
and
privileges
as
free
citizens
of
this
great
land.
We
ask
that
you
protect
them
and
give
comfort
to
their
loved
ones,
make
their
absence
from
home
and
family
short
aid
them
in
their
accomplishment
of
their
tasks
and
bring
them
back
safely
to
their
families.
B
A
All
right,
we
got
some
work
to
do
here
this
afternoon.
Right,
yes,
just
a
little
bit,
I
think
this
is
gonna,
go
real,
smooth
and
before
we
get
started
and
I'm
gonna
have
the
the
chair
get
up
and
speak
a
little
bit
her
and
I
spoke
earlier.
A
A
It
is
no
small
task,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
details,
because
I
think
that
the
the
chair
is
going
to
do
that
when
she
speaks,
but
they've
been
working
on
this
for
almost
a
year
and
certainly
committed
an
awful
lot
of
their
time
and
effort,
and
it
is
a
real
huge
task
to
tackle,
and
so
we
want
to
start
the
meeting
off
by
saying
thank
you
to
the
committee
and
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
for
all
their
hard
work
and,
let's
start
off
by
giving
them
a
round
of
applause.
A
And
with
that,
I
will
call
up
to
the
podium
the
chair,
pam,
settle
to
introduce
the
team
who
are
here
and
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
the
process
went
so
that
our
citizens
who
will
watch
this,
will
fully
appreciate
the
effort
that's
gone
into
it.
Madam
chair.
D
Excellent,
thank
you.
I
want
to
first
extend
my
appreciation
for
having
the
opportunity
to
serve
on
this
committee.
D
We
have
david
enos
and
steve
graber,
paula,
saraki,
ken
sidowicz
and
andrew
knapp,
who
started
with
us
but
then
had
to
leave,
and
he
was
replaced
with
jared
buckman
and
jessica
opid,
who
is
not
here
today,
and
so
we
we
were
met
here
and
we
met
monthly
with
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
attorney,
and
we
had
20
chapters
that
we
were
assigned
and
the
very
first
night
that
we
were
here.
We
divvied
them
up
and
people
took
items
that
they
thought
they
had.
D
Some
expertise
in
and
some
of
us
took
items
that
we
thought
were
something
and
turned
out
to
be
something
totally
different
and
so
lessons
were
learned
and
we
then
set
a
time
schedule
for
doing
say
two
to
three
chapters
a
month
and
so
the
assigned
committee
lead
person
would
would
take
their
chapter
and
go
through
it
and
discuss
with
staff
any
changes
that
they
thought
might
be
appropriate
and
then
they
brought
those
recommendations
back
to
the
committee
and
we
discussed
those
changes
every
month
and
then
we
voted
on
the
changes
that
we
felt
were
appropriate
and
changes
that
the
city
attorney.
D
Could
you
know,
give
us
some
guidance
on,
as
you
know
whether
or
not
we
were
going
down
the
right
track
or
not,
and
so
we
we
did
that
and
we
went
through
the
process.
We
just
had
to
take
a
short
break
during
covet,
but
we
stayed
on
schedule
and
everybody
did
their
their
chapters,
and
you
know
I
just
have
to
say
that
I
was
so
impressed
with
how
everybody
took
it
seriously.
D
It
wasn't,
you
know,
like
hey,
let's
just
read
this
over
and
show
up
with
some
proofreading.
No,
there
were
lots
of
care
taken
to
make
sure
that
not
only
grammar
was
correct.
We
fixed
grammar,
we
fixed,
spelling,
we
fixed
new
department
names,
you
know,
committees
have
changed,
department,
names
have
changed,
responsibilities
have
changed,
and
people
were
able
to
pick
up
on
that
and
make
those
corrections
along
the
way,
and
I
was
just
very
impressed
with
the
diligence
that
everybody
took
to
like.
D
D
I
mean
really
word
by
word,
so
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
and
thank
you
to
the
committee
on
behalf
of
me
for
all
of
the
hard
work
that
was
done,
and
so
we
are
here
today
to
present
to
you
20
chapters
of
the
ordinances,
and
I
look
forward
to
discussing
them
with
you.
A
A
And
the
citizens
here
we'd
like
to
present
you
each.
A
C
C
C
A
All
right,
yeah,
good
job,
all
right
before
we
get
into
this.
I
want
to
also
make
a
point
of
thanking
our
charter
officials
too,
both
ann
and
tom,
who
spent
a
lot
of
hours
working
on
this,
and
we
appreciate
your
extra
effort.
I
know
tom
and
I
talked
about
this
process
when
it
first
began
and
he
first
started
working
with
the
committee,
and
he
reiterated
to
to
me
just
how
impressed
he
was
with
the
work
that
the
committee
had
done
and
the
diligence
they
put
into
it.
A
All
right
enough
with
the
niceties
let's
get
down
to
business
all
right,
so
I've
spent
some
time
talking
with
the
city
manager
and
assistant
city
manager,
about
this
and
kind
of
approaching
it,
and
and
when
you
look
at
it-
and
I
know
all
of
us
have
read
it
gone
through
made
our
notes-
the
incredible
amount
of
hours
that
was
put
into
the
report,
here's
kind
of
where
we're
at
so
the
report,
the
debate
amongst
the
committee
and
and
what
gets
voted
in
into
this
final
document
has
now
transitioned
to
us
and
so
we'll
go
through
and
have
the
discussion
and
start
to
hopefully
go
from
a
report
of
68
pages,
maybe
down
to
30
or
whatever
it
might
be.
A
You
know
there's
essentially
three
sources
of
information
or
records,
three
sources
of
different
recommendations
that
are
represented
in
this
document.
What
I
mean
by
that
is
you
have
the
committee
members
themselves
who
have
done
their
own
due
diligence
who
have
spoken
to
citizens?
Who've
done
independent
research
that
shows
up
in
in
the
document.
A
You
have
legal
counsel
who
is
guiding
them
and
looking
at
things,
and
maybe
you
know
helping
them
stay
within
the
guidelines
that
are
important
as
well
as
looking
at
what
what
what
should
be
changed.
That's
outdated!
That's
not
applicable
from
a
legal
standpoint,
and
the
third
part
is
the
input
from
our
staff.
A
A
That's
good,
and
I'm
going
to
pick
a
little
bit
on
I'm
going
to
pick
on
leisure
services
a
little
bit
right,
because
when
you
look
at
that
section
in
there
it
it
looks
like
that
they
might
have
gone
to
the
florida
parks
and
recreations
association
and
and
and
taken
some
of
what
is
probably
in
documents
as
best
practices
and
spent
the
time
to
put
them
in
the
appropriate
places
in
our
document.
A
What
what
I
think
might
occur
is
that
there
are
best
practices
and
there
are
probably
things
that
are
unenforceable
and,
in
speaking
with
our
city
manager
and
the
timing
of
this
and
the
size
of
the
document.
To
digest
it,
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
as
we
go
through.
A
This
is
we're
going
to
try
to
identify
those
areas
that
haven't
really
been
reviewed,
necessarily
by
our
city
manager
and
our
assistant
city
manager,
as
a
team
to
identify
those
things
that
are
probably
not
practical,
and
so
we
we
will
have
a
second
meeting
we're
in
no
rush.
We
want
this
to
be
correct.
I
want
this
to
be
right
and
so
we'll
go
through
it
and
there'll
be
an
opportunity.
A
If
someone
has
a
question
to
ask
of
the
committee
through
me,
okay,
so
we
kind
of
stay,
organized
we'll,
probably
go
like
okay,
that's
housekeeping
next
page,
that's
not
you
know
and
we'll
get
into
some
stuff.
We'll
have
some
discussion.
If
someone
wants
to
ask
a
question
and
don't
be
offended,
they're
not
joining
the
debate
per
se,
I
mean
you
know
we'll
we'll
go
through
that,
but
we're
not
voting
we're
going
to
do
some
consensus.
A
We
allow
there
to
be
a
review
of
what
I
would
call
the
the
city
manager
leadership
to
kind
of
go
through
and
identify
those
things
make
their
changes
that
are
highlighted.
That
they've
made
a
change.
So
then
that
document,
the
smaller
document
comes
back
to
us
and
we
go
through
that
process.
Again.
Is
everybody
up
here?
Okay
with
the
that
approach?
Yes,.
A
A
A
I
just
I
couldn't
resist
right
out
of
the
shoot
we
get
to
a
good
one,
that
I
don't
believe
that
was
a
staff
recommendation
and
so,
let's
just
jump
into
it
and
go
to
section
2.2
and
the
recommendation
to
change
the
compensation
for
council
members,
okay,
and
so
at
this
time.
What
I'll
do
is
I'll
open
the
floor
for
any
comments?
A
E
I
really
appreciated
the
research.
I
went
back
and
read
all
the
minutes,
I'll
say
of
the
ordinance
review
committee
and
I
appreciated
the
additional
research
that
was
provided
by
city
staff
into
other
cities,
practices
payment.
Whether
benefits
were
included,
whether
or
not
they
could.
You
know,
participate
in
the
city's
401k
or
what
have
you
and
and
the
sort
of
analysis
on
that
excel
spreadsheet.
That
went
into
this
particular
recommendation,
which
would
be
to
increase
the
salary
for
council
members
and
for
mayor
just
a
couple
of
quick
things.
E
I
definitely
would
like
the
sort
of
economic
input
from
our
city
leadership.
I'm
I'm
not
necessarily
a
fan
of
the
three
percent
increase
every
october
first,
just
because
that's
something
that
staff
doesn't
get,
and
so
I
was
like
well
should
that
really
be
an
ordinance,
just
a
thought
that
maybe
that
could
be
something
that
is.
E
You
know,
voted
on
by
a
council
as
opposed
to
an
automatic
thing.
I
think
that,
as
has
been
done
in
the
past,
the
increase
would
go
into
effect
for
the
next
council.
That
is
seated
not
for
the
council.
That's
currently
voting
on
it,
but
I
definitely
appreciated
all
the
background
and
research
that
went
into
that
and
so.
A
A
E
The
percentage
increase
every
year.
E
E
I
am
generally
in
favor
of
it.
I
am
generally
not
in
favor
of
the
three
percent
increase.
C
I
would
speak
in
favor
of
the
increases
as
well
in
general,
still
maybe
a
bit
on
on
the
fence
about
the
first
annual
increase,
but
I
I
was
sitting
in
that
meeting
at
the
time
still
as
part
of
the
committee
when
we
discussed
this,
did
you
propose
this?
I
did
not.
No.
This
was
not
my
plan,
but
we
did
we.
C
I
think
I
think
that's
like
the
main
driving
factor
behind
behind
it
was
it
had
been
some
time
since
it's
been
looked
at
discussed
whatever
it's
kind
of
a
you
know,
hot
potato
type.
Sure
topic,
I
think,
but
I
do
speak
in
favor
of
of
accepting
that
change
and
and
would,
as
long
as
what
vice
mayor
gannon,
said,
hearing
a
little
bit
of
input
from
staff
as
far
as
the
increases
go
on
an
annual
basis,
very
good
council
member
soraki.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
mayor
a
couple
things
I'm
definitely
not
in
favor
of
the
three
percent
increase.
I
don't
like
that
idea
and
then
the
second
thing
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
councils.
When
I
became
an
elected
official
for
the
city
of
oldsmar,
you
know
I
felt
it
was
more
of
a
volunteer
thing
for
the
citizens.
C
C
C
A
A
Ours
is
30
to
40
million
right,
so
there
some
levity
there
in
terms
of
the
overall
economic
picture,
in
terms
of
what
they're
dealing
with
versus
frankly,
what
we
do
and
I'm
sure
they
you
know,
I'm
not
suggesting
that
dunn
eden
works
harder
than
the
council
members
in
oldsmar,
but
I'm
more
looking
at
the
full
picture
and
you
can,
if
you
look
around
safety
harbor,
which
is
below
us
they're,
actually
right
now
at
like
a
70
million
dollar
budget
right,
and
so
I
look
at
the
that
as
where
we're
at
where
people's
revenues
are,
I
don't
think
that
it's
ever
been
impediment
where
it's
at
for
someone
to
run.
A
So
I
don't,
I
don't
think
it
stops
someone
from
from
serving
and
as
it
relates
to
the
the
automatic
increase.
I
understand
the
logic
behind
it.
A
The
the
challenge
with
it
is,
is
it
compounds
every
year
right
and
so
essentially,
every
five
years
when
you
compound
that
three
percent,
it's
almost
16
so
now
you're
making
these
this
compounded
change
that
you
know
you
pay
10
years
from
now
we
have
council
members
making
20
grand
a
year
and
I
don't
think
that's
the
intent
right
and
so
which
that
would
be
along
the
lines
of
you
know
what
let's
pinellas
park,
which
has
like
a
budget
of
150
million
dollars
a
year
and
I'll
you
know
a
bigger
place,
and
so
I
I
think
that
I
think
it's
something
that
should
be
looked
at.
A
You
know,
maybe
maybe
that's
something
that
makes
it
an
automatic
that
it
has
to
be
looked
at
instead
of
just
forgotten
about,
because
I
remember
I
was
on
council
the
last
time.
That's
right.
So
I
came
on
right
after
because
it
had
just
gotten
moved
up
and,
and
the
rule
is-
and
I
do
think
it
would
be
worth
putting
in
the
policy
some
language
that
says
something
in
fact,
elected
officials
are
in
entitled
to
compensation
set
forth
at
the
time
of
their
election
whatever.
A
So,
essentially
it
you
know
whatever
the
compensation
is
when
you
get
elected,
that's
what
you
get
until
you
get
reelected.
If,
if
in
that
five
year
period
it
passed
it,
it
got
increased
and
you
ran
again,
then
you
would
in
fact
be.
You
know,
elected
under
a
different
set
of
compensation
terms,
just
to
avoid
there
ever
being
the
whole.
A
You
know,
because
clearly
we
know
that
the
mayor's
position
right
now
is
probably
worth
I
don't
know
100
grand
a
year
or
something-
and
you
know,
but
probably
that
will
go
down
and
playing
so
anyhow,
that's
my
thoughts
on
it.
So
let
you
know
al
if
you'd
like
to
chime
in
just
give
your
two
cents
on
it.
F
Don't
have
a
problem
with
an
increase
if
it
was
based
on
the
salary
information
provided
to
you.
I
would
counter
that
I
think
the
three
largest
cities,
two
of
which
are
strong
mayor
forms
of
government,
not
our
kind
of
government
and
clearwater.
Being
that
much
bigger,
I
didn't
do
any
analysis
as
to
whether
that
that
skewed,
whatever
figure
they
came
up
with
I'm
in
favor
of
an
increase,
maybe
not
that
much.
I
am
absolutely
against
an
automatic
increase.
F
Part
of
the
in
has
made
codified
a
because
the
employees
don't
get
that
that
has
to
be
part
of
the
budget
process.
That's
voted
on
by
the
council
and
maybe
a
solution
which
I
think
you
touched
on
was
you
could
make
that
part
of
an
annual
or
timely
process
to
look
at
yourselves
whether
it's
part
of
the
budget?
I
just
don't
think
it
would
be
appropriate
or
fair
to
have
it
as
an
automatic
in
the
charter,
but
as
far
as
an
increase
go
I'm
not
opposed
to
it
all.
A
Right,
so
here's
what
I'm
going
to
do-
and
this
is
consensus-
this
isn't
a
vote,
but
can
I
give
you
my
thoughts
on
absolutely.
B
Please
so
you
know
I've
got
almost
30
years
under
my
belt,
watching
this
process
happen
with
regard
to
commission
council
members
of
being
very,
very
sensitive
as
to
how
much
they
are
to
be
paid,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
every
city
deals
with
it
the
same
way.
It
is
that
yeah,
it's
a
hot
potato.
I
really
don't
want
to
talk
about
it.
I
really
don't
want
it.
Looking
like
this
is
something
I'm
doing
for
myself
kind
of
thing,
and
so
with
that
attitude
comes
every
commission
looking
at
well.
B
What
are
the
other
cities
doing?
Well,
the
other
cities
are
doing
exactly
what
you're
doing,
and
that
is
it's
a
hot
potato.
I'm
not
going
to
touch
it
so
you're.
Basing
your
thought
process
on
if
you're
saying
well,
because
safety
harbor
or
you
know,
tarpon
springs
or
dunedin
have
a
lower
one.
Well,
the
reason
they
have
a
lower
is
because
they
don't
want
to
touch
it.
They
haven't
done
it
in
15
years.
B
In
my
mind,
it
should
be
based
upon
the
amount
of
time
that
you
are,
you
know,
devoting
your
life
to
and
representing
these
residents
and
the
hot
topics
that
you
have
to
deal
with
and
the
hard
decisions
that
you
have
to
make
at
every
single
commission
meeting,
and
it
should
be
based
upon
that
and
it
shouldn't
be
based
upon
what
other
cities
are
paying.
That's
my
opinion.
B
As
for
the
dollar
amount,
you
know
it
is
whatever
it
is
that
you
think
is
appropriate.
This
ordinance
review
committee
talked
about
it
long
and
hard
and
look
did
the
analysis
and
they're
making
this
presentation
before
you.
Why
are
they
doing
it
because
they
know
you
wouldn't
do
it
on
your
own,
and
why
is
there
in
my
mind?
Why
is
there
an
automatic
increase?
B
Because
you
won't
touch
this
again
for
the
next
five
years
and
so
it's
going
to
sit
back
there
because
again
it's
a
hot
potato
and
the
idea
was
let's
make
it
put
it
in
play
that
you
address
the
situation
each
year,
but
you
don't
have
to
vote
on
it
every
year
because
you
don't
want
to
have
to
answer
to
your
constituents,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
three
percent.
Maybe
it's,
maybe
you
add
language
and
it
says
whatever
the
employees
get
the
city
council
should
get.
B
You
know
it
could
be
tied
to
something
like
that
and
as
for
it,
you
know
when
it
occurs,
or
maybe
it's
not
every
year,
maybe
it's
every
other
year,
but
you
really
should
be
doing
it
so
that
you
can
keep
yourself
moving
up
so
that
you
don't
put
the
pressure
on
the
next
commission
coming
in
and
trying
our
next
council
coming
in
and
trying
to
deal
with
the
same
issue
again.
The
ordinance
review
committee
doesn't
meet
that
often
so
it's
not
going
to
come
back.
I
have
never
seen
a
commissioner
say.
B
I
think
I
should
get
an
increase
out
of
the
middle
of
nowhere.
It's
always
a
direct
result
of
the
ordinance
review
committee,
doing
it
so
you're,
looking
at
five
and
seven
year
intervals
before
you
look
at
it
each
and
every
time,
so
you
really
should
be.
You
know
you
know
putting
in
play
something
that
in
my
mind
you
know
this
automatic.
B
Maybe
it's
one
percent.
You
know,
maybe
it's
something
other
than
three,
but
it
really
so
you're
addressing
the
issue
and
as
for
you
know,
locking
in
you
know
saying
well,
you
should
only
earn
this.
You
know,
while
you're
a
city
council
member
now
and
lock
that
in
you
know,
I
think
that
you
you've
all
taken
a
position.
I
really
don't
want
to
lock
in
future
council
members
ideas
and
thoughts
on
what
they
want
to
do.
B
So
you
know,
locking
in
a
provision
that
says
that
you're
only
going
to
get
paid
what
you
get
paid
when
you're
hired
or
you
get
appointed
rather
or
elected,
and
that
should
be
that
you
know
whether
the
amount
changes
or
not
that's
what
you
should
get
from
that
one
you're
tying
the
hands
of
those
future
councils
and
you
wouldn't
want
them
to
do
it
to
you.
So
you
know
the
question
is:
is
do
you
want
to
do
it
to
them?
B
So
I
know
it's
a
hard
topic
and
you
really
don't
want
to
talk
about
it,
but
the
other-
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
know
dan
has
talked
about
the
reasons
why
he's
doing
this,
as
as
a
council
member
you're
all
doing
it
for
the
same
reason,
you
wanna,
you
know
you
know
you're
not
doing
this
because
of
the
fact
you're
getting
paid
a
lot
of
money.
You're
doing
it,
because
the
fact
that
you
want
to
you
know
help
your
community,
but
some
people
who
take
on
this
position
don't
have
the
ability
to
earn.
B
You
know
an
income.
You
know
outside
of
the
council
because
of
the
time
that
it
takes,
and
so
the
idea
is,
is
not
just
to
pay
yourselves
based
upon
what
other
councils
and
other
cities
are
getting.
But
maybe,
if
you
get
a
little
bit
higher,
maybe
you
can
pique
the
interest
of
other
people
running
for
those
positions.
B
I
have
one
city
bellar
bluffs,
they
haven't
had
an
election
in
six
years.
Why?
Because
nobody
wants
to
run
and
that
hasn't
happened
here.
Obviously,
but
if
you
increase
your
compensation
schedule
in
my
mind,
there's
a
greater
likelihood
that
you
know
you
can
interest
other
people,
other
talent.
You
know
to
come
in
behind
you
when
you,
when
you're
out
of
office,
but
anyhow
pretty
passionate
about
this,
because
I
know
you,
you
know
the
position
that
you're
put
in
is
elected
officials.
B
D
Now
I
would
add
that
this
was
unanimous
and
then
everybody
was
in
favor
of
it
and
we
look
at
today's
money.
It
had
been
what
15
years
since
there
was
a
minute.
D
Sorry
about
that,
so
no,
the.
So
the
committee
was
unanimous
about
this
and
very
strongly
in
favor.
We
did
look
at
the
range
and
we
discussed
it
at
length
that
the
you
know
when
you,
when
you
look
at
what
the
current
compensation
is
and
you
do
it
monthly,
you
think
wow.
D
D
So
when
we
took
a
look
at
that
and
the
commitment
and
the
responsibility
and
then
when
you
look
at
the
number
and
you
divide
it
by
12-
you
think,
okay,
you
know
so
we
we
felt
very
strongly
that
it
was
not
enough
based
on
today's
standards,
how
long
it
had
been
since
there
had
been
an
increase,
and
so
we
actually
brought
it
down
some.
You
mentioned
dunedin,
but
they
also
get
benefits
right,
so
they're
getting
health
insurance
which
I'll
take
if
you're
offering
excuse
me,
I'm
kidding.
E
D
Have
to
also
then
add
on
benefits,
it's
actually
a
lot
more
and
and
we
decided
against
that
in
keeping
it
just
straight
dollar
amount,
instead
of
wading
into
that
territory.
So
we
we
thought
we
balanced
that
looking
at
all
of
those
other
issues,
and
so
I.
A
C
C
The
activities
thing
is,
I
actually
have
a
question
for
you,
tom,
in
your
your
review.
You
just
gave
us
you
mentioned.
Other
municipalities
have
the
same
problem.
What
I'm
concerned
about
is
we're
having
an
election
right
now
and
we're
getting
ready
to
have
ours,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
negative
activity.
That's
going
out
there
right
now
in
the
political
world.
C
One
thing
I
love
about
our
city
is
we
don't
have
that
we
have
a
positive
attitude,
a
positive
election
time
in
our
city
and
I'm
concerned
that
if
we
raise
the
money
that
much
that
we're
going
to
get
that
type
of
feedback
in
our
community
and
that's
something
I
don't
like-
I
don't
want
to
happen
to
old,
smart,
that's
just
the
feeling.
I
have
I
really
because
even
when
gabby
and
I
ran
very
good,
you
know.
A
All
right
any
other
comments
anymore,
want
to
add
something,
because
I'm
going
to
add
to
it
I'll
say
this:
you
know
I
I,
if
it's
a
hundred
percent
correct,
I
mean
if
you
sat
and
tried
to
assess
the
amount
of
time
you
spend
and
really
added
it
up,
especially
because
the
expectation
you've
heard
me
talk
about
this
before
about
people
serving
on
external
boards
to
try
to
make
sure
we're
plugged.
A
In
I
mean
it's
no
longer
just
the
borders
of
the
city
of
oldsmar
hasn't
been
that
way
in
a
while
and-
and
I
don't
envision
that
it's
ever
going
to
go
back
any
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
the
city
gets
positioned
the
way
it
does
when
a
lot
of
opportunity
comes
along.
If
you
ever
went
through
and
try
to
assess
the
number
of
hours
divided
by
you
know,
you
know
it
will
just
scream
in
your
face
that
you
were
probably
working
at
a
fraction
of
minimum
wage
right.
C
A
That's
just
a
reality.
I
could
tell
you
this
year
in
particular,
you
would
think
that
it
would
be
different
with
all
the
events
canceled
covet
19.
I
I
can't
even
begin
to
tell
you
how
much
time
you
wrote
every
single
day
you
know,
but
but
that's
not
why
you
do
it
right.
I
mean
to
me
it's
like
professional
community
service.
It's
how
I
always
explain
it
to
people
that
you
know.
A
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
volunteer
a
lot
of
time
in
this
town
who
don't
get
paid
a
penny
either
right
I
mean
I
could
go
through.
If
I
sat
and
even
looked
at
just
the
regular
committees
or
organizations
we
have
they
don't
you
know
they're
spending
tons
of
time
as
well.
Granted
every
one
of
us
gets
stretched
in
the
job
and
there's
that
expectation
you're,
always
at
something.
I
try
to
move
us
away
from
that.
A
Just
not
you
know
it's
like
not.
Everybody
can
go
run
for
one
of
these
positions.
They're
not
because
they're
not
able
to
doesn't
mean
they
wouldn't
be
good,
doesn't
mean
that
they're
not
competent.
It
means
that
their
situation
means
they're,
just
not
in
a
position
to
run
right
now
you
know,
and
so
for
me
I
mean
I'll
support
raising
it.
It
is
a
you
know.
Just
so
you
realize
I
mean
it's
a
66
raise
on
the
on
the
council
member.
A
It's
a
almost
a
50,
raise
on
the
on
the
mayor
to
tom's
point
I'm
not
worried
about.
You
know
just
I
don't
feel
the
pressure
from.
I
don't
feel
the
pressure
at
all
about
voting
and
favor
this.
I
just
really
feel
that
it's
like
professional
volunteerism
you're,
either
in
a
position
to
do
it
or
you're
not,
and
maybe
that's
wrong,
but
you
know
I've
been
wrong
before
go
ahead.
E
One
more
piece
of
feedback
that
madame
chairman
woman,
brought
to
my
mind
the
potential
for
making
an
additional
commitment
beyond
being
a
council
person,
because
I
am
very
aware
that
being
mayor
is
an
exponentially
greater
time
commitment.
We
all
see
that
we've
seen
that
with
you.
We
have
seen
that
with
mayor
beavis,
of
course,
and
and
other
past
mayors,
just
as
a
point
of
reference,
I
work
with
a
lot
of
attorneys.
E
A
lot
of
attorneys
happen
to
also
be
public
officials,
so,
for
example,
louis
vera
understood
it's
in
tampa,
which
is
a
different
sort
of
setup
with
the
strong
mayor's
situation,
but
he
was
able
to
have
his
law
firm,
put
him
in
an
of
counsel
position,
take
a
reduced
salary
so
that
he
could
then
take
the
time
that
is
necessary
to
serve
in
in
his
position
as
chair
of
the
council,
which
is
a
different
kind
of
setup.
I
understand,
but
it's
in
all
honesty.
E
It's
something
that
I've
considered
because
to
add
an
additional
piece
of
time
that
it
would
have
to
come
from
somewhere
literally,
it
would
have
to
come
from
somewhere.
Being
you
know
a
full-time
attorney,
a
single
mom
member
of
council,
two
toddlers-
I
mean
it
can't
there's
nowhere,
there's
nowhere
for
it
to
come
from
so
and
my
employer.
I
can't
speak
for
everyone's,
but
would
be
absolutely
delighted
to
see
me.
E
You
know
continue
to
pursue
a
role
in
in
city
government
or
wherever
it
takes
me
and
to
step
back
into
an
of
council
role
at
a
reduced
salary
amount
they're,
not
giving
anything
away
for
free.
But
I
I
do
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
different
flexibility
and
work-life
balance
in
the
law.
Firms
that
I
encounter
on
a
daily
basis
for
younger
people
who
are
looking
for
a
little
bit
more
of
a
diverse.
You
know,
work
life,
experience
and
opportunities
to
volunteer
and
stuff
like
that.
A
Good
anybody
else
all
right,
so
here's
what
I'm
going
to
do
to
try
to
move
us
along
and
I
will
I'll
support
the
increase.
I
don't
think
it's
so
material.
I
mean
it's
a
27
600
add
to
the
budget
we're
having
a
good
year,
even
though
we
like
whack
the
budget,
pretty
hard
in
anticipation
of
you
know
bad
things
happening.
That
haven't
happened
as
a
matter
of
fact.
A
A
You
know
it's
like
a
consensus
thing
right,
because
ultimately
this
document
will
come
back
to
council
and
my
intent
is
if
we
don't
have
a
consensus
on
something
the
intent
would
be
to
instruct
staff
to
remove
that
before
it
comes
to
council
right
and
and
likewise
we'll
meet
again
after,
like
I
said
earlier
as
after
the
city
manager
has
the
opportunity
to
review
those
items
that
came
from
staff
and
we'll
we'll
go
through
that
same
process
then
and
decide
hey.
Maybe
we
want
it
to
become
enforceable
right.
Who
knows
we'll
see?
A
A
I'm
going
to
separate
the
two
all
right,
all
right,
so
all
in
favor
of
consensus
supporting
what's
being
presented
as
an
increase
show
of
hands.
We
got
one
two,
three,
four,
all
right.
That
sounds
like
a
pretty
good
consensus.
All
right.
Now,
let's
talk
about
the
salary
increase.
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
more
debate
to
happen
on
it.
So
I
I.
C
Would
go
ahead.
Thank
you
mayor.
I
would,
I
would
just
say
I
would
be
open
to
other
alternatives
as
what
the
city
city
attorney
presented,
whether
it's
just
a
fixed
requirement
to
review
it
at
some
time
interval
or
something.
Maybe
you
assemble
some
small
compensation
committee
or
something
you
know,
but
other
alternatives
other
than
what's
presented
is
what
I
would
like
to
see.
A
A
C
C
A
F
That's
my
that's
my
conceptual
issue
with
putting
it
codifying
an
automatic
increase.
You
determine
the
budget
either
way
your
salaries
are
in
the
budget
either
way.
So,
if
you
just
said,
council
would
be
participating
in
the
cost
of
living
increase
and
whatever
you
pass
will
be
something
that
will
always
be
the
same
as
what
the
employees
get.
B
You
mentioned
yes,
we
could
just
we
just
change
the
language
here
at
the
bottom,
when
it
comes
back
to
you,
it'll
come
back
to
obviously
in
an
ordinance
format,
and
we
can
always
tweak
it
a
little
bit
more
as
we
get
closer
and
closer,
but
we'll
just.
We
can
just
change
that
last
sentence
to
do
that.
A
You
know
what
I
once
again,
I'm
going
to
come
out.
Adamantly
opposed
to
it
any
automatic.
I'm
adamant
adamantly
opposed,
because
I
think
it
runs
a
risk
of
unintended
consequences.
The
people
who
serve
up
here
are
not
the
same
as
as
employees.
You
know,
even
though
we
we're
counted
as
employees,
we're
elected
we.
You
know
this.
If
this
is
your
only
livelihood,
you
know
you're,
you
need
a
new
job.
A
Okay,
I
mean
this
is
not
it
our
our
employees,
however
they're
executing
with
their
pro,
you
know
their
their
their
expertise
and,
and
I
don't
believe
we
should
be
anywhere
in
the
same
boat
with
them
at
all.
I
really
don't
okay,
I
just.
I
just
think
that
that's
could
lead
to
unintended
consequences,
and
so,
let's
first
do
this,
I'm
just
going
to
say:
what's
there
right
now?
Is
there
a
show
of
hands
who
supports
salaries,
will
increase
by
three
percent
every
october?
A
First,
all
right,
so
I'm
going
to
say
that's
out
and
I'm
going
to
propose
some
language
and
we'll
we'll
take
a
swipe
at
it,
and
that
is
salaries
will
be
evaluated
every
five
years
by
a
citizen
committee.
A
A
We're
good
all
right
moving
on:
let's
do
it
all
right
bottom
part
of
the
page.
A
A
Yeah,
it's
housekeeping
okay,
page
eight
housekeeping
yep,
page
nine.
C
I
have
it
oh
page,
six
seconds
bottom
left
corner.
Instead.
C
A
I'm
gonna
say
the
first
half
up
to
10.56
is
housekeeping
agreed
all
right,
10.03.
Any
comments.
C
E
Quick
comment
as
to
the
is
to
the
I
think
that,
instead
of
planning
a
redevelopment
department,
I
think
that
some
of
these
should
be
changed
to
the
city
manager
or
the
city
managers
designee.
In
the
event,
you
know-
and
I
think
that
goes
for
throughout
I'll
just
make
it.
A
E
A
Services
I'm
going
to
pick
on
them
for
just
a
minute,
because
it's
in
their
multitude,
you
know,
I
don't
believe
that
the
intent
well,
I
know
in
our
charter:
it's
not
the
intent
for
staff
to
dictate
policy.
It's
for
us
to
do
policy,
they
execute
it
right,
and
so,
when
we're
making
a
decision
that
well
maybe
they'll.
Well,
I'm
being
facetious
here,
but
you
know
maybe
we'll
it'll
be
permitted
to
have
a
dog
in
the
park
on
thursdays.
You
know,
bless
you
depending
up
to
the
director
of
the
department.
A
So
I
really
believe
throughout
the
document
that
it
should
say,
as
designating
the
city
manager
or
city
council
right
and
the
reason
or
city
council
is
because,
let's
just
say,
you
have
a
city
20
years
from
now,
we
have
a
city
manager
who
who
doesn't
like
dogs
in
the
park
or
whatever
example
you
want
to
use.
They
could
arbitrarily
make
that
decision
and
in
order
to
fix
that,
you
would
have
to
go
through
an
entire
ordinance
change
to
change
it.
A
That's
not
the
intent,
it's
not
the
intent
of
the
way
it
should
be,
but
from
a
practical
standpoint,
when
things
come
up
that
require
some
flexibility
that
require
you
know,
our
city
manager
should
have
the
authority
on
the
spot,
to
be
able
to
say
we're
going
to
permit
that
without
going
through
a
whole
process
yeah
and
in
the
event
that
the
council
doesn't
agree
with
that,
they
have
that
opportunity
essentially
to
step
forward
and
say
no.
We
think
it
is
okay
to
have
dogs
in
the
park
tom.
You
have
a
comment.
B
B
A
E
E
Buck
stops
with
the
city
manager
or
the
city
managers
designee.
What?
If
the
departments
shuffle
around,
and
instead
this
issue
and
enforcement
and
relation
if
this
ordinance
falls
under
a
different
department,
then
it
doesn't
say
the
department
head
in
this
ordinance,
because
the
designee
of
the
city
manager
that
can
change,
let's
say
for
some
insane
reason.
We
decide
to
make
the
leisure
services
person.
You
know
in
charge
of
adult
entertainment
establishments
and
and
the
approval
of
that.
A
E
So
when
I
think
of
our
system
of
government
council
manager,
I
think
of
the
full-time
job
of
the
person
that
runs
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
city,
who
is
accountable
ultimately
to
the
council.
Okay,
the
council
writes
the
legislative
policy
and
then
is
to
allow
the
the
executive,
the
city
manager,
to
execute
that
policy.
I
think
to
simultaneously
give
us
the
authority
to
write
and
execute
the
policy
sort
of
impermissibly
intertwines,
our
role
sort
of
like
a
separation
of
powers
issue.
I
feel
that.
A
E
So
if
it's
not
in
the
policy
that
the
city
council
has
there,
then
it
shouldn't
be
available
for
the
city
manager
to
decide.
But
if
we,
as
a
council,
want
to
want
to
have
a
specific
ordinance
that
says
what
you
can
or
can't
do
in
the
park,
then
that's
on
us
to
make
the
ordinance
it's
on
him
to
execute
or
her.
But.
A
To
us,
but
we
do
let's,
let's
just
agree
the
foundation
as
it
relates
to
who's
the
final
heavy
decision
maker
as
it
relates
to
the
staff.
It
should
be
the
city
manager.
Yes,
it
should
be
left
to
a
director
because
their
job
is
to
execute
plans.
A
A
But
I
just
think
when
it
comes
to
like
making
policy
decision
on
the
fly
on
on
some
of
the
stuff
in
parks
and
recs,
that
doesn't
really
make
sense.
Maybe
we
should
invest
the
time
to
nail
it
down.
Maybe
maybe
that's
the
decision.
F
Speak
to
what
the
vice
mayor
said.
Thinking
is
a
scenario
my
job
is
to
execute
the
policy
that
you
create.
The
devil's
advocate
position
and
I'll
think
more
about
it.
When
I
do
this
in
your
management
report,
is
that
the
way
you
described
it
sounds
to
me?
I
don't,
I
doubt
it's
intended,
but
it
sounds
to
me
like
if
it's
city
or
council,
then
somebody
that
my
job
is
to
administer
the
policy
doesn't
like
the
answer
I
give
so
they
run
to
you
guys
and
then
you
guys
give
a
different
answer.
F
F
E
A
A
C
A
Okay
for
clarity,
so
would
this
suggest
that,
for
example,
the
capital
improvement
project
out
at
harbor
palms
would
generate
a
one
percent
set
aside
for
art.
A
F
C
C
A
Eligible
so
I
guess
that's
the
defining
what's
eligible,
I'm
okay
with
not
changing
it,
you
know
I
I
just
was
concerned
at
first
whether
it
was
to
suggest
any
capital.
Expenditure
on
behalf
of
the
city
would
automatically
require
one
percent
addition
for
the
arts,
and
I
don't
believe
that
that's
the
way
that
should
be.
You
know.
Clearly,
if
we're
talking
infrastructure,
we're
talking,
you
know
we
could
just
take
our
capital
improvement
budget.
Add
one
percent
and
say
this:
is
our
new
budget
for
art.
E
E
This
is
not
written
on
here,
I'm
holding
out
the
printout,
any
private
developer
or
owner
who
applies
to
the
city
for
a
building
permit,
to
construct
or
reconstruct
a
commercial
structure
shall
be
encouraged
to
commit
one
percent
construction
or
reconstruction
costs
up
to,
but
not
limited
to
the
sum
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
provision
of
fine
art.
In
conjunction
with
such
commercial
structure.
Okay,.
A
I'm
not
referring
to
that.
I'm
referring
to
the
top
of
page
eight
as
it
is
about
midway
through
not
less
than
one
percent
of
the
total
construction
budget
of
each
eligible
municipal
construction
project
shall
be
allocated
as
the
city
public
art
contribution
for
the
incorporation
of
the
public
works
of
art,
and
so
I
guess
that's
why
it
was
like.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
what's
eligible,
that's,
why
I
asked
a
question
about
purple
as
an
example
like
yeah.
E
A
No,
it's
not
encouraged.
This
city
expenditures
are
mandatory,
they
always
have
been,
though
that's
not
new.
A
A
A
A
Know
I
mean
if
everyone's
okay
with
that
eligible,
essentially
is
being
defined,
as
has
been
in
the
past,
that
it's
an
actual
building
that
we're
making
some
kind
of
capital
improvement
to
it.
But
you
know
that
eligible
is
not
infrastructure.
It's
not!
You
know
pipes,
it's
not.
You
know
new
filters
or
you
know
which
would
be
maintenance,
but
you
know
those
types
of
things
I
just
you
know.
A
C
A
E
A
E
A
A
I
do
a
little
good,
which
one
page
14
26-125
distance,
some
of
the
changes
on
here
the
only
the
one
concern-
and
I'm
not
sure
I'm
assuming
this
came
from
the
fire
chief-
is
that
correct.
E
A
That
staff
review
that
and
the
reason
why
is
because
it
just
because
the
the
concern
being
is
property
rights
right
you
acquire
something
you
own
it
if
you're
changing
it
midstream
that
that
can
become
problematic
for
people's
property
rights,
that
they
bought
it,
assuming
one
thing
that
it
was
a
10-foot
setback.
Now
the
sudden
the
city
changes
it
to
15.,
you
know:
does
that
have
some
kind
of
economic
impact
to
them,
and
so
I'm
just
going
to
ask
that
that
maybe
get
take
to
look
at
by
the
city
manager.
That
says.
A
Bet
that
they
might
have
talked
to
him
about
it,
you
know
that
would
be
my
bet.
Yep
steve
yeah.
They
may
have
most
of
the
discussion
with
with
alexa.
A
Very
good
we'll
have
staff
review
it
all
right
anything
else
on
the
rest
of
pages
housekeeping,
very
good,
page
15.,
and
I
promise
let
me
anything,
I'm
going
to
go
down.
Anybody
have
anything
up
to
26-xxx
enforcement.
A
A
You
know
some
of
the
stuff
I
read
I've
like
had
these
nightmare
visions
of
our
staff
out
there,
giving
warnings
of
fines
coming
like
like
we
want
to
send
the
people
who
have
guns
to
do
that.
You.
A
C
A
All
right
item
16.
any
comments.
E
Page
16.
yeah
no
volunteer,
firefighters.
A
Pretty
good
housekeeping
all
right,
18.
housekeeping
19,
housekeeping
20.,
special
events,
I'm
gonna
ask
that
get
reviewed.
A
E
No
golfing
can't
go,
I
also,
and-
and
this
could
just
be
written
down,
we
don't
have
to
get
into
it.
There
was
a
bit
of
a
conflict
between
42-35
4,
the
rougher,
potentially
dangerous
games,
and
then,
if
you
look
on
page
35
of
the
report,
there's
a
similar
ordinance
about
rough
or
dangerous
behavior,
so
I
was
wondering
if
it
could
be
just
included
once
or
why
that
was
twice.
A
A
C
C
A
C
A
A
C
A
It's
21
21,
42-36
bottom
line,
properly,
designate
leisure
services,
department,
employees
and
city
employees
may
warn
participants
of
ordinance
violations.
You
know,
I
guess
that's
relevant
once
again.
That's
a
review
thing
like
what
does
that
really
mean
you
know
to
what
extent
other
than
say
you
know
you're
not
supposed
to
be
doing
that
yeah
I
mean
I
just.
I
always
worry
about
that.
You
know
during
the
pandemic
restrictions
people
would
say
to
me
mayor
mayor
somebody
over.
There
is
doing
that.
I'm
like
call
the
police.
A
All
right
so
moving
on
page
22.
A
You
know
we've
already
established
the
the
director
part
of
it.
Let's
see,
no
person
should
collect
this.
I.
C
C
A
Yeah,
maybe
we
can
we
ask
that
that
get
cleaned
up
in
terms
of
our
old
parks
also
be
included
the
park
areas.
Well,
maybe
the
intent
was
to
say
the
park
areas
are
different
from
the
sports
complex,
maybe
maybe,
but
still
just
cleaning
all.
A
I'd
leave
it,
as
is
all
right
b,
is
leisure
leisure
services
department.
I
think
the
housekeeping
going
down
and
then
maybe
42-38
review.
F
F
A
The
mayor's
going
to
break
through
right,
yeah
right
and
he
ain't
going
to
be
alone,
yeah
all
right
so
42-38
was
that
something
that
we
wanted
to
be
reviewed
a
little
bit
because
it
comes
back
to
some
of
the
enforceability.
A
E
E
A
A
Can
I
because
this
is
just
gonna
continue
to
be
over
and
over
and
over
again
I
I
just
let's
see
if
the
count,
how
the
pleasure
the
council
is
on
this,
do
you
think
it
might
make
sense
before
we
go
through
this
page
by
page
of
the
leisure
services
section
that
we
say
we'd
like
that
to
get
reviewed.
E
E
A
E
A
A
Okay,
anybody
got
anything
on
5401,
50.
A
We're
cleaning
up
this,
I
would
say
that's
housekeeping
right,
okay,
page
40.,
a
person
should
not
play
in
carts.
That's
a
good
idea
right.
The.
E
D
E
E
A
E
E
E
E
The
archaic
terms
I
was
fine
with,
but
perhaps
the
domestic
animals
in
parks
or
the
animals,
I
think
it's
just
called
animals
and
parks-
is
the
section
42-92
animals
in
city
parks.
I
thought
maybe
I'd.
It
was
weird
that
you
can't
put
the
horses
on
the
street
sidewalks
and
right
away,
but
then
they're
not
permitted
in
the
park.
But
then
you
also
can't
feed
the
squirrels
or
have
a
bike.
So.
A
C
A
A
So
I
have
to
tell
a
short
story
here
about
when
we
passed
this
to
in
the
very
beginning:
okay,
we
were
at
the
old
building
across
the
way
and
we
were
like
who's
going
to
enforce.
That
I
mean
I
realize
there
should
be
something
in
here
and
then
it
was
like.
Okay,
well
is
the
fine
gonna
be
the
same
for
a
cat
versus
a
dog
small
breed,
largely
you
know,
and
who's
going
to
make
that
distinction
or.
A
A
E
E
E
Page
45
of
the
report,
the
section
58-41
street
easements
entirely
covered
by
paving
the
whole
section's
just
removed.
I
just
thought
you
know.
The
only
area
that
it
might
be
applicable
would
be
in
harbor
palms,
where
there's
city
utilities
underneath.
C
E
A
A
Of
the
report
40
page
48
of
the
book.
A
F
A
That
the
one
you're
talking
about
it's
it's
going
to
be
chapter
58
number
58.2,
one
one
right!
That's
58
item
11.!
Let's
put
that
oh
item
11.
A
I
have
a
question
on
item
number
58.12
d2
at
the
bottom.
The
fee
shall
be
triple
for
work
in
the
right
of
way
initiated
without
a
permit.
Oh.
A
Utility
with
bachelor,
so
essentially,
if
somebody
comes
up
and
they
break
something
and
they
didn't
have
a
permit,
we're
going
to
triple
charge
them.
I
can
live
with
that
apartment.
A
Anybody
else
anything
else
on
there
we
just
had
item
58.11
marked
for
review
yep,
okay,
page
46.,.
C
A
All
right
and
we'll
have
that
when
you
have
that
discussion
earlier
all
right,
10
working
days,
anybody
got
anything
else:
page
46,
we're
going
to
47.
housekeeping
semi-housekeeping,
okay,
48.
A
C
F
F
F
E
C
F
The
dollar
threshold
changes,
if
you
just
make
it
reference
to
the
enabling
legislation
that
governs
it,
and
I'm
not
sure
this
is
one
of
them,
but
I
think
it
is,
I
think,
as
a
general
rule,
it'd
be
a
good
idea
to
stay
away
from
the
number
specifics,
because
that
makes
sense
you
have
to
change
them
a
lot
right.
A
A
Is
gonna
designate
where
you
can
unload
your
truck
in
the
morning
right
now?
There
you
go
right
around
the
corner,
get
in
front
of.
D
A
C
A
A
Can
can
we
get
an
explanati?
Can
I
get
an
explanation
on
item
number?
Seventy
dat.
Seventy
point:
zero,
six
brian
sessions,
just
an
overall
explanation.
F
I
would
ask
tom
to
comment
on
that,
because
my
question
there
was:
why
eliminate
this,
because
I
think
we
were
legally
allowed
to
require
annexation
for
somebody
to
be
in
our
service
area,
but
we've
also
had
some
back
and
forth
on
whether
we
are
statutorily
required
to
provide
it
tom.
What
do
you
got
there?
So
this.
D
F
B
B
C
A
F
A
Ad
shall
be
developed
in
accordance
with
the
city
requirements,
with
the
exception
that
should
a
re
record
plat
be
involved:
local
planning,
agency,
city
clerk
or
city
managers.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
recording,
plat
shell
be
plat
shall
require
approval
by
the
city
council.
Then
it
says,
but
not
the
mayor's
chair
of
any
of
those
signatures.
The
signatures
so.
A
A
50.
Anything
on.
A
A
F
A
A
E
F
I'm
sorry
mayor,
yes,
I
was
I'm
trying
to
keep
up
on
what
page
I'm
on,
but
you
made
the
comment
about
the
master
meter.
That's
a
very
big
responsibility
and
it
generally
rests
with
me
with
the
help
of
public
works
rec,
because
it
has
a
significant
effect
on
how
billing
gets
set
up,
and
I
could
go
into
some
more
stories
that
I
won't
bother
with,
but
I
think
that's
actually
an
important
one
and
I'll
put
it
in
the
report.
C
F
That's
incorrect
that
does
not
become
that
property
situation
never
becomes
property
of
the
city
without
a
legal
process.
What
this
is
attempting
to
describe
is
actually
a
state
process
where
we
have
to
submit
any
uncashed
check
to
the
state.
Sometimes
you've
seen
data
mining
teasers
about
you
might
have
money
due
to
you.
If
you
hit
this
website
well,
actually
I
think
it's
deo
or
it's
probably
dor.
F
A
Good
put
an
r
next
to
it,
yeah
all
right,
page,
64.,.
A
Anybody
got
anything
nope
all
right,
all
right,
so,
okay,
clearly
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
work.
When
we
come
back
to
leisure
services,
you
know.
E
A
Yeah,
you
know
come
back
and
spend
some
time
get
some
feedback
from
the
city
manager's
office
and
go
through
it
from
there,
but
I
do
think
we
tackled
essentially
the
the
portion
on
the
compensation
issue.
Other
issues.
You
know
frankly
a
lot
of
times
it.
It
takes
so
much
time
to
go
through
every
word
right.
A
I
can't
imagine,
and
so
and
and
for
us
we
get
the
benefit
of
going
through
it
in
an
hour
and
a
half,
even
though
we
know
we're
gonna
come
back
probably
and
spend
another
couple
hours
on
it
right,
but
because
you
guys
did
all
that
work
for
us
so
once
again
I'll
thank
our
ordinance
review
committee
for
all
their
work
and
our
charter
officers,
who
spent
the
time
with
them
and
giving
them
good
counsel.
I.
C
F
Manager,
echo
yours
being
the
oldest
one
in
the
room,
experience
wise
with
the
exception-
maybe
tom,
although
I'm
older
than
he
is
I've,
been
through
this
four
times,
and
I
wanted
to
tell
the
committee
he
did
a
fabulous
job
doesn't
mean
we're
going
to
agree
on
everything,
but
he
did
a
fabulous
job
of
going
through
this.
I've
never
seen
the
depth
and
the
detail.
F
F
The
only
other
issue
that
comes
up
that
I
probably
should
have
handled
differently
was
that
there
are
cases
when
you're
meeting
appropriately
with
department
heads,
which
I
discussed
ahead
of
time,
where
the
department
head
doesn't
have
a
boatload
of
experience
in
how
we
do
what
we
do
so
that
I
think
may
have
given
rise
to
why
we
need
to
analyze
with
some
depth
some
things
that
were
maybe
opinions
that
I
wouldn't
share
because
they
work
for
me.
But
I
just
wanted
to
say
thanks,
no
matter
how
this
plays
out,
you
guys
did
a
fabulous
job.