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From YouTube: City of Oldsmar Work Session, 8/16/21
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A
But
I
think
my
dad
had
the
same
one
when
he
was
a
councilman
same
kind
of
thing,
so,
if
they're
ever
watching,
they
see
me
using
him
pretty
neat.
It's
like
clear
on
the
bottom.
A
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
oldsmar
city
council's
operational
budget
work
session
to
order
on
this
monday
august,
16
2021,
the
next
two
items
on
the
agenda
are
the
invocation
and
pledge
of
allegiance.
Our
city
attorney
is
not
here,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
lead
us.
Then,
if
you
don't
please
rise
dear
heavenly
father,
we
thank
you.
For
this
day.
We
ask
that
you
clear
our
minds
fill
our
hearts
as
we
work
to
do
the
people's
work
here
in
the
city
of
oldsmore.
A
Please
guide
us
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen.
A
A
A
Are
you
speaking
or
not?
No,
anybody
on
this
side
of
the
room,
all
right,
I'll,
go
ahead
and
close
the
citizens
open
forum
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
proposed
operational
budget
for
fiscal
year.
2021-2022.
A
B
A
Wow
all
right,
sir!
Well,
let's
hope
you
don't
break
a
summary
out
of
all
of
them
all
right,
so
one
one
is
a
goodie.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
our
city
manager.
B
I
see
that
all
the
council
member
has
the
bound
document
which
we're
very
proud
of
I'm
absolutely
blown
away
at
the
quality
of
the
graphic
stuff
gets
better
and
better.
Every
year
I
was
for
entertainment
purposes
going
to
show
you
the
first
one
I
did
is
the
finance
director,
madeira
beach.
B
However,
the
paper
is
all
yellow,
because
it's
a
computer,
continuous
feed,
I
did
it
in
lotus
and
it
has
no
graphics
in
it,
and
it
was
on
that
blue
plastic
11
by
17
plastic
material.
So
I
thought
I
could
probably
describe
it
as
well
as
anybody
would
get
out
of
it
if
we
saw
it,
but
as
you
can
see
very
proud
of
the
work,
the
administrative
services
does
in
putting
this
thing
together,
because
wow,
it
just
seems
to
get
better
every
year.
B
So
the
purpose
today
is
to
go
through
the
document
focusing
predominantly
on
the
numbers.
I
did
have
a
few
comments
I
wanted
to
make
in
the
form
of
an
intro
that
is
on
your
screen.
First,
more
summary:
things
from
20
000
feet
about
assumptions
or
things
that
we're
asking
for
for
council
consideration.
As
you
all
know,
there
will
be
two
budget
hearings
for
the
actual
passing
of
the
budget
resolution,
which
will
be
september
7th
and
22nd,
remembering
that
we
moved
the
second
meeting
in
september
because
of
the
conflict
with
the
school
board.
B
So
my
overarching
themes
for
this
year,
you
see
in
the
slide
in
front
of
you,
jdc
move
it,
so
I
can
read
them.
Thank
you.
So
the
places
and
spaces
was
a
theme
that
administrative
services
came
up
with.
If
you
remember
last
year,
when
you
weren't
entertained
by
me
falling
off
the
ledge
over
there,
there
was
a
and
thanks
ratliff.
I'm
glad
you
saved
me.
The
places
in
space's
theme
was.
B
The
document
was
also
chock
full
of
hidden
pictures
of
arie
olds,
and
I
think
that's
true.
Also
this
year
are
they
are.
Are
they
all
re-olds?
Okay?
So
we
have
the
same
theme
throughout
the
document.
Hopefully
we'll
trip
over
one
of
one
or
two
of
them,
so
we'd
have
a
little
fun
with
that
council
review
of
the
2122
proposed
annual
budget
is
what
we're
here
to
do.
B
We
will
briefly
discuss
a
little
bit
city
management
transition.
I
have
no
idea
what
that's
about
and
the
council
decisions
on
the
operating
capital
item
changes.
That's
meant
to
just
forewarn
you,
but
I
did
mention
it.
I
believe
to
those
of
you.
I've
met
with
for
the
meeting
tomorrow
that
the
operating
capital
items
the
capital
items,
especially
in
some
cases,
have
already
changed
in
estimated
cost.
B
B
I
hate
this
stat,
but
it's
the
way
the
system
cranks
out
the
reports
and
it's
appropriate
because
you
kind
of
have
the
way
we're
configured.
If
you
will
is
that
for
mostly
for
capital
projects,
if
the
capital
project
is
encumbered
at
the
end
of
the
year,
if
you
close
your
books
and
close
all
the
purchase
orders,
then
the
next
year
you
have
to
reopen
purchase
orders
for
projects
that
have
been
going
on
that
are
millions
of
dollars.
B
Cities
do
this
differently.
What
we
do-
and
it's
part
of
the
budget
resolution
you'll,
see
the
last
paragraph
that
it
says
any
open
purchase
order
as
of
the
date
we
close
automatically
carries
over
to
the
new
year
and
re-encumbers
for
that
amount
of
money
which
operationally
allows
us
to
keep
operating
a
lot
smoother
and
quicker
than
if
we
had
to
close
them
all
and
then
re-encumber
the
amount.
B
So
because
of
that,
the
comparative
column
in
original
proposed,
which
is
the
45
million,
goes
against
the
revised
total
of
the
previous
year
as
a
normal
course
of
business,
because
the
revised
total
includes
the
dollar
amount
of
those
projects
that
have
been
essentially
not
re-encumbered
but
carried
forward.
So
it's
appropriate
that
we
mention
it.
B
However,
if
you
were
truly
comparing
original
to
original,
this
budget
is
significantly
higher
than
last
year's,
but
as
you'll
see
in
the
document,
we
compare
it
to
the
revised
reduction,
because
some
of
that
will
carry
forward,
and
some
of
that
has
so.
The
millage
rate
remains
the
same
as
it
has
for
our
proposal.
B
4.05
has
been
the
same
for
the
past
14
years.
The
past
30,
the
city,
has
operated
with
a
millage
rate
that
has
not
gone
up.
It
has
been
higher
than
this,
so
in
the
past
30
years
we've
never
raised
the
millage
rate.
It's
always
either
gone
down
or
stayed
the
same.
That's
a
record
we're
very
proud
of.
B
So
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
good
goal
to
have
that
the
things
we
do
are
likely
to
increase
the
value
of
the
property,
which
also
enables
us
not
to
have
to
increase
the
rate
and
for
those
of
you
that
are
tuning
into
this
for
the
first
time
or
don't
know,
we
do
not
determine
the
assessments.
The
assessments
are
determined
by
pinellas
county
property,
appraiser's
office.
B
So
our
rate
is
generally
one
of
11
and
represents
about
20
percent
of
your
tax
bill
and
in
the
document
you'll
see
a
calculation
of
what
a
standard
relevant
or
median
size
house
would
be,
and
then
the
translation
of
how
much
tax
money
of
that
would
come
to
us.
The
old
argument
would
be.
I
realize
values
are
a
lot
higher
than
this,
but
the
math
is
easy.
B
If
your
taxable
value
of
your
home
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
you
would
pay
us
405
dollars
a
year
to
do
all
the
cool
stuff
that
we
do
for
that.
That's
just
an
example.
Obviously
maybe
houses
more
like
200
000
these
days,
but
to
keep
the
math
simple,
okay
in
terms
of
raises,
which
is
always
popular
when
they
like
it
among
the
employees.
B
We
have
a
couple
of
plans
and
a
couple
things
we're
planning
on
doing
the
first
thing
I
really
wanted
to
say
there
was
I'm
proposing
a
cost
of
living
adjustment
to
two
percent
across
the
board
for
all
employees,
regardless
of
where
they
are,
what
pay
grade
or
where
they
are
in
the
pay
grade.
B
Second
thing,
which
we've
done
pretty
much
every
year,
is
a
merit
increase
that
value
changes
once
in
a
while,
depending
on
what
we
have
to
work
with
in
terms
of
resources
and
the
merit
increase
is
supposed
to
be
for
those
at
your
evaluation
in
essence,
meaning
you
have
to
earn
it
and
you
have
to
be
eligible
for
it.
That
depends
on
where
you
are
on
your
pay
grade
now.
B
Fifteen
dollars
sorry
an
hour
fifteen
dollars
a
year,
wouldn't
be
great,
so
we
started
taking
that
on
and
studying
it,
and
in
our
studies
we
it's
not
as
easy
to
do.
We
have
the
resources
to
do
it,
but
we
also
cause
a
problem,
because
our
initial
conversation
on,
I
think
it
was
two
years
ago,
was
that
we
were
just
going
to
say.
Okay,
the
bottom
line
pay
grade
is
going
to
be
15
bucks
an
hour.
B
The
concept
is
called
compression,
but
if
we
just
wave
a
magic
wand
and
say
we're
paying
everybody
15
an
hour,
the
people
that
are
in
the
range
of
16
to
17
are
all
furious,
because
they're
going
wait.
A
second
you're
going
to
pay
a
maintenance
operator
almost
as
much
money
as
it
took
me
three
or
four
years
to
make.
B
So
in
trying
to
deal
with
that
concept,
we
realized
we
were
going
to
have
to
kind
of
incrementally
get
there,
and
I
think,
in
large
part,
thanks
to
cindy
we've
got
an
excellent
plan.
That'll
get
there
in
the
next
two
years
and
I
say
two
years
because
the
federal
mandate
is
to
get
there
by
2025,
and
here
we
are
approaching
2022
and
our
plan
is
this:
in
the
middle
of
our
pay
plan.
B
We
have,
for
some
unknown
reason,
a
bunch
of
pay
grades
that
have
nobody
in
them.
So
we
chart,
we
looked
at
it
and
we
decided
well
where
this
really
means
something.
Is
that
what
we'll
call
the
lower
half
are
the
lower
pay
grades,
as
opposed
to
the
upper
pay
grades?
Now
most
of
these
people
are
in
the
upper
pay
grades,
but
we
decided
that,
in
addition
to
the
two
plus
two,
the
cola
and
the
merit,
we
were
going
to
bump
the
scales
to
pay
scales
plus
at
least
two
percent
for
any
employee.
B
That's
in
pay
grade
60
or
below
now
the
math
will
all
work
out
and
we
can
give
you
the
the
total
columns
of
that.
But
the
idea
was
to
incrementally
get
the
lowest
paying
full-time
job.
We
have
here
closer
to
the
15
we've
done
that
our
lowest
paying
job.
If
you
accept
this
plan
will
be
1428
next
year
and
it'll
put
us
within
5
of
getting
to
15
the
year
following.
B
So
we
like
the
fact
that
it's
still
incremental
it's
gained
a
large
part
of
there.
It's
been
very
well
accepted
from
the
fact
that
we
told
the
employees
that
we're
proposing
it
to
you
guys
so,
no
pressure,
but
the
particulars
are
an
employee
who's
in
a
pay
grade.
60
or
below
has
the
possibility
of
getting
up
to
six
percent.
They'd
still
have
to
get
their
merit.
B
They're
gonna
get
the
two
percent
automatically
they're
going
to
be
bumped
to
pay
grades,
and
the
two
pay
grades
is
going
to
carry
with
it
at
least
another
two
percent
couple
of
cases.
It's
more
than
that.
That's
a
long
story
that
is
associated
with
newer
people,
because
our
base
rule
for
the
pay
plan
is
that
if
we
bump
you
to
a
pay
grade,
your
pay
has
to
be
on
it
and,
if
you're
the
pay,
the
difference
between
the
pay
grades
is
about
two
and
a
half
percent.
So
adding
two
to
it.
B
Two
pay
grades
would
be
five
percent,
but
if
you
have
somebody
that's
in
a
different
position,
it
just
started
incrementally
it
ends
up
being
pennies
in
terms
of
their
hourly
rate,
but
they
might
end
up
getting
a
tiny
bit
more.
The
math
gets
a
little
strange
with
round
rounding
with
rounding
all
right,
so
we've
talked
about
today.
Jd
go
back
for
a
second,
I
don't
know.
If
I
covered
a
lot
all
right.
First
bullet
point:
I
did
yeah.
B
I
could
have
read
that
sorry,
next,
okay,
here's
the
bad
news,
not
necessarily
bad
news
for
you
guys,
but
obviously
this
hits
families,
and
I
think
we
talked
about
it
before,
because
we'd
already
had
council
approving
the
health
insurance
we're
experiencing
a
nine
percent
health
insurance
increase.
B
When
we
sat
with
the
benefits
consultants,
the
guerin
group
in
march,
we
were
told
the
increase
was
going
to
be
30..
Now
you
got
to
remember
and
many
people
don't
that
the
benefits
of
the
plan
are
important.
The
demographics
are
important.
The
geography
is
important
and
most
important
is
the
claims
experience.
B
We
had
two
employee
deaths
last
year.
That
was
a
whopping
now
gone.
Both
fought
valiant
battles
against
long-term
diseases,
so
our
claims
experience
was
bad.
So
this
to
me,
although
it's
bad
news,
especially
for
people
that
have
dependent
coverage
because
you
may
remember,
the
city
pays
for
whatever
the
single
coverage
is
anything
you
have
incrementally
over
that
you
pay
that
so
in
the
simplest
meth.
If
the
single
coverage
increases
by
nine
so
does
the
rest
of
it.
So
your
increment
goes
up.
So
this
is
expensive,
but
it's
way
better
than
it
could
be.
B
Increase
is
huge
and
worth
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
I
already
told
them,
and
most
of
them
will
be
nodding,
their
heads
that
I
told
them
specifically
this
year
that
they
could
expect
that
we
were
not
going
to
pay
for
the
same
level
of
benefits
that
we
had,
because
I
was
operating
under
the
assumption
that
the
health
insurance
was
going
to
be
30.,
because
it
was
only
nine.
We
are
still
maintaining
paying
for
every
benefit
that
we
now
do
the
hra,
the
dental
for
single
all
the
same
benefits
we
currently
have.
B
We
maintain
now
I've
said
to
you
guys
in
staff
meetings
that
that
was
going
to
end
someday,
probably
see
it
in
the
form
of
high
deductible
plans.
We
don't
have
to
do
it
yet,
but
it's
going
to
happen
someday.
Okay,
second
thing:
new,
solid
waste
construct,
which
you
all
know
about,
starts
on
october.
1St
want.
B
You
totally
feel
free
to.
I
was
hoping
this
would
just
kind
of
set
the
table
and
the
questions
go
up
in
the
book,
but
whatever
you're
comfortable
you'll
go
right
away
all
right,
so
the
new,
solid
race
contract
we
know
to
be
with
orion
way
solutions,
effective,
10-1
that'll
be
announced
in
utility
bills,
even
though
it's
been
well
broadcast
in
the
council
meetings
in
september,
the
bmx
demolition,
if
you've
driven
by
there,
has
been
complete
reconstruction
to
begin
very
soon.
The
anticipated
completion
for
now
is
february
2022..
B
Sorry,
okay
and
the
revenue
projections
reflect
the
following
new
building
services
agreement,
pinellas
county,
which
we'll
touch
upon
it's
county,
mandated
that
they
have
removed
the
contract
services
for
inspections
and
most
plan
review
and
pulled
it
back
in
house.
There's
a
bunch
of
conjecture
on
why
they
did
that
control
is
one
feature:
the
there's
a
state
law
about
building
building
trust
funds.
That's
another
feature.
Their
software
is
probably
the
biggest
reason.
B
What
some
of
you
noticed
that
you'll
see
again,
however,
is
that
the
revenues
that
we
lost,
which
were
processing
with
the
county,
hired
as
a
contractual
inspector
so
to
speak,
were
less
than
the
costs
that
have
been
removed,
which
several
of
you
mentioned
as
kind
of
like
a
doesn't
that
kind
of
mean
we
were
making
money
when
we
did
that.
So
my
first
thought
when
I
saw
that
they
were
going
to
do
this
was
that's
interesting.
B
Why
is
that?
Well,
it
you
have
to
look
at
the
entire
picture
to
see
where
we
are,
but
it
is
true
that,
for
whatever
reason
making
you
question
why
they
would
do
this,
they
are
removing
the
revenue
that
we'll
lose
by
going.
There
is
less
than
the
expense
we're
walking
away
from
just
remember
they're
budget
figures,
so
in
reality
they
can
end
up
being
a
lot
closer
than
it
looks
in
the
budget.
B
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
when
we
get
to
that
page,
the
wonderful
american
rescue
plan
act
in
my
years
of
age.
I
knew
better
than
to
jump
too
highly
on
this
one.
The
state
has
certainly
not
disappointed
me
they're
still
sitting
on
it
and,
unfortunately
we're
not
one
of
what's
called
the
entitlement.
B
Cities
like
clearwater,
saint
pete
that
got
the
funds
directly
from
the
federal
government
and
already
have
them
we're
called
the
lowly
non-neu,
the
non-entitlement
units,
where
you
have
to
have
a
funding
agreement
and
all
kinds
of
rules,
and
the
state
has
already
asked
for
and
received
two
extensions
from
the
u.s
treasury.
So
they
could
sit
on
the
money
for
longer
before
they
had
to
dull.
It
out
that's
my
theory,
I'll
stand
by
it,
everybody's
looking
at
me,
like
you're,
really
in
trouble.
Well,
my
philosophy
is:
I'm.
B
So
the
the
the
bottom
line
is
we're
supposed
to
have
already
gotten
it
by
june.
1St
didn't
get
it
the
first
extension
which
was
kind
of
to
be
expected,
was
granted
and
the
treasury
then,
because
I
squawked
at
the
lobbyist
and
all
of
our
elected
officials
at
the
state
level
in
the
federal
level,
the
by
suggesting
that
maybe
the
state
was
doing
this
on
purpose.
B
These
are
the
same
people
by
the
way,
sorry
soapbox
the
same
people
that
have
decided
that
we
should
be
preempted
from
running
our
own
programs,
because
the
state
does
it
better
than
we
do
have
decided
that
they're
not
ready
to
give
us
the
money.
Yet
that
was
supposed
to
go
until
the
end
of
june,
so
july,
1st.
I
think
it
was
technically
july.
2Nd
was
the
date
when
we
were
supposed
to
get
the
money
after
the
first
extension
expired.
B
Well.
All
I
got
out
of
yelling
at
the
lobbyists
and
the
elected
officials
was
don't
worry
about
it,
they're
not
going
to
get
another
one
july
2nd
comes
around.
We
don't
have
the
money,
so
I'm
back
on
the
phone
squawking
with
all
these
people,
yeah
I'll,
get
to
the
bottom
of
this
july.
3Rd
comes
around
no
money
july.
4Th
comes
around
no
money.
July
5th
comes
around
no
money,
but
no
extension,
so
by
law,
they're
violating
the
law,
because
we
don't
have
the
money
and
they
don't
have
an
extension
magically
around
july
6.
B
They
get
a
second
extension,
so
I
had
been
telling
this
is
very
important
and
I'm
harping
on
it.
For
this
reason
I
told
everybody
in
this
room
because
these
people,
the
ones
that
for
the
most
part,
crafted
the
budget
to
assume
this
was
going
to
be
a
bare
bones
year,
largely
because
we
were
anticipating
the
reduction
in
revenue
from
the
pandemic
and
because
a
lot
of
the
capital
items
were
big
big
bucks,
and
this
was
going
to
be
really
really
thin
if
we
were
going
to
avoid
a
tax
increase.
B
Well,
it's
not
really
gone
away
yet,
although
we're
being
promised
again
that
we'll
have
the
funds
shortly,
council
may
see
another
funding
agreement
is
that
right.
So
we've
got
a
funding
agreement
which
you've
already
seen
one,
but
I
don't
know
you
need
two
or
something
and
the
first
payment
should
be.
I
think
3771
695
or
thereabouts,
and
it
is
incorporated
into
the
document
very,
very
cautiously,
because
I
am
assuming
that.
Not
only
will
we
get
it,
we
will
also
get
another
amount
of
roughly
the
same
amount
next
year.
B
So
you'll
see
it
throughout
last
thing:
here:
no
budgeted
rate
increase
for
water,
sewer,
storm
water
or
solid
waste.
I
had
been
threatening
everybody
that
would
listen
to
assume
that
there
was
going
to
be
rate,
increases,
certainly
for
solid
waste,
so
with
causes
optimism
because
the
rates
came
in
so
low
on
the
rfp
we've
been
able
to
avoid
recommending
any
solid
waste
increase.
B
I
say
that
carefully
because
be
careful
what
we
wish
for
we'll
see
how
it
goes,
but
with
stormwater
I
would
say
we
avoided
a
rate
increase
there
because
of
the
arpa
money,
we're
using
the
upper
money
for
capital
projects
in
stonewater
and
heavily
in
heavy
amounts.
Water
and
sewer
in
pretty
good
shape,
but
also
know
have
council
approved
the
prng
study.
Yet
yes,
so
you
recently
approved
the
prng
study,
which
is
they're
our
rate
utility
rate
consultant.
B
More
than
likely
they'll
come
back
ultra
conservative
and,
at
some
point
they'll
be
recommending
a
future
increase,
but
for
this
document
there
is
none
all
right.
Jd
we
got
one
more.
No,
we're
done
all
right
all
right,
so
let's
go
through
the
document,
hopefully
quicker
than
I
just
did
that.
Please
stop
me
at
any
point.
You
have
questions.
I
I
as
again,
I
I
can't
tell
you
how
proud
I
am.
My
our
first
mistake,
however,
is
on
page
one
the
opening
the
inside
cover.
B
I
hope
it's
our
only
mistake
and
I
apologize
to
michelle
kutch.
She
made
me
mad
one
day
and
I
forgot
to
put
her
in
a
list
of
directors.
So
michelle
we
apologize
to
you,
but
the
good
news
is.
We
will
be
able
to
fix
that
before
the
final
document
is
bound
and
printed.
As
you
know,
we
made
michelle
a
director
in
the
middle
of
the
year.
That's
not
an
excuse.
There's
pictures
of
five
people
who
I
don't
recognize
in
the
front,
but
they're
all
very
beautiful
and
the
rest
of
the
stuff
is
pretty
straightforward.
B
Next
page
is
the
table
of
contents.
This
is
the
order
by
which
we'll
go
through
this.
Each
of
these
graphic
images,
which
barb
did
barbaric
what's
barb's
last
name
schulte
the
administrative
services
admin
assistant
did
these
these
are
actually
actual
places
if
you
follow
it
to
the
map
behind
it.
Those
are
pointers.
You
know
that
you
see
on
the
internet
that
point
to
where
it
is
on
the
map.
B
If
you
hadn't
already
noticed
that
so
they're
kind
of
cool
all
right,
the
next
multiple
pages
are
what's
known
as
the
budget
message
and
each
year
we
have
to
do
this,
I'm
not
going
to
spend
much
time
out
but
touch
a
couple
of
things.
It's
a
great
thing
for
you
guys
to
read,
because
it
really
does
a
pretty
good
job
of
kind
of
summarizing.
B
The
whole
thing
with
enough
specifics
to
be
useful,
the
only
things
I
want
to
touch
on
here,
because
we
will
talk
specifically
about
each
fund
and
for
the
most
cases
each
cost
center
is
okay.
B
B
Your
the
best
thing
you
can
do
in
my
mind
in
personal
services,
capital
jumps
all
over
the
place,
big
ticket
items
one
year,
you
might
have
a
whopping
number
another
you
might
you
might
not,
but
you
don't
my.
I
did
my
master's
thesis
in
1805
with
on
annexation
and
you
don't,
as
a
general
rule,
it's
a
financial
weakness
to
have
to
relate
sorry.
You
have
to
rely
on
property
taxes
to
balance
your
budget.
B
So
with
this
number
being
property
taxes
or
personal
services
is
28,
that's
excellent,
because
it
it
tells
you
that
you're
pretty
well
balanced.
The
the
one
obvious
exception
of
that
is
the
guy
sitting
in
the
corner
over
there
and
that's
why
he's
sitting
in
the
corner?
The
fire
department
is
almost
totally
driven
by
personnel
costs.
This
is
a
balance
of
the
whole
city,
so
no
problem,
big
fellow
we
got
we
made
up
for
you.
B
We
got
it
over
here,
not
his
fault
they're,
also
the
tightest
operating
because
they
don't
have
a
boatload
of
money
to
deal
with,
because
salaries
are
big.
Pensions
are
big
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
this
is
a
good
number
28
for
personal
services
means
the
cost
of
all
of
our
salaries
and
benefits
is
only
28
of
our
whole
budget.
That's
a
pretty
good
sign
of
balance
to
me,
so
I
wanted
to
talk
about
that
briefly
on
the
next
page.
B
We
just
wanted
to
talk
about
the
taxable
values
because
you'll
see
what
looks
like
when
we
get
to
the
actual
revenue
figures
a
little
bit
of
what
looks
like
inconsistency,
but
this
is
a
great
little
graphic.
The
taxable
values
increased
realistically
by
2.67
percent,
and
you
see
what
may
what
those
are
made
up
of
31
million
plus
is
increasing.
Current
value
and
10
plus
million
is
new
construction.
That's
on
the
tax
roll
for
the
for
the
first
time,
so
that
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
how
much
the
taxable
value
has
increased.
B
B
The
pandemic
really
took
a
chunk
out
of
the
tangible,
personal
property
figure
which
lowered
the
overall,
it's
still
an
increase,
but
it
lowered
the
overall
increase
by
over
three
percent-
that's
very
unusual,
but
where
we
were
luckier
than
we
thought
we'd
be,
maybe
with
some
of
the
effect
of
the
pandemic
on
revenues,
it
really
hit
us
in
tangible
personal
property,
the
equipment
that
commercial
entities
or
businesses
use
to
do
business.
So
every
we
used
to
be
we're
used
to
walmart
nielsen
going
to
the
value
adjustment
board
every
year,
saying
well,
my
appraisal's
too
high.
B
They
do
it
partially
because
they
want
their
staff
attorneys
to
have
something
to
do,
but
at
the
same
time
they
figure
it's
worth
the
cost
of
doing
business
that
if
they
can
get
an
adjustment
for
even
a
couple
of
million.
That
saves
us
some
money.
So
it
does
hurt
us
generally
we're
used
to
seeing
it
adjusted
a
little
bit.
Never
before
has
tangible
personal
property
been
adjusted
by
that
much
okay.
B
B
So
if
you
see
the
difference
in
the
two
years,
it
looks
like
we're
up
by
two
ftes,
which
is
true,
but
where
are
the
increases?
Sometimes,
there's
a
mid-year
increase,
so
I
wouldn't
put
too
much
into
that
other
than
if
the
press
were
asking
I'd
say
we're
up
two
positions:
it'll
be
more
like
a
couple
of
full-timers.
B
We
might
lose
a
part-timer,
it's
kind
of
a
mishmash
but
we'll
get
to
that
and
then
on
page
11,
just
a
reiteration
of
the
debt,
the
capital
outlay
stuff
we'll
talk
about
as
we
get
to
those
cost
centers,
but
the
debt
is
we're
still
in
really
good
shape.
Comparatively
and
you've
heard
me
say
a
thousand
times.
Municipalities
are
like
herds
of
cattle.
Everybody
wants
to
know
what
everybody
else
is
doing
well
in
terms
of
our
debt
philosophy.
B
We
have
no
go
debt,
which
means
there's
nothing.
There's
no
taxing
power
being
used
to
pay
any
debt.
All
of
our
debt
is
secured
by
either
covenant
to
budget
or
some
specific
revenue
source.
As
you
know,
we
took
on
six
million
dollars
of
debt
for
harbor
palms
and
that's
an
increase,
but
for
the
first
time,
possibly
ever
in
my
recollection,
we
refinanced
three
pieces
of
srf
debt.
That's
never!
I
don't
know
that
that's
ever
happened.
B
It
was
because
interest
rates
were
so
low,
but
the
reason
it's
so
unusual
is
that
srf
that
is
supposed
to
be
60
the
rate's
supposed
to
be
60
of
the
20-year
bond
buyer
index.
So
right
there
that's
supposed
to
be
cheaper,
so
how
we
were
able
to
get
a
private
loan
that
was
that
much
cheaper
to
make
it
worth
doing
is
amazing,
so
we're
still
in
very
good
shape
and
the
last
sentence
there
says
there'll
be
no
new
debt
in
this
fiscal
year.
All
right
moving
through.
A
Let
me
let
me
ask
a
question
on
the
arpa
money,
the
3.7
that
we're
anticipating
as
it
relates
to
the
capital
outlay.
B
The
first
part
of
your
question:
yes
jd,
you
got
that
graphic
on
the
extra
files,
so
we
have
projected
where
we
think
we're
going
to
put
the
money
and
you'll
see
it
in
the
in
this
document
here
so
right
there
in
column
b,
the
dollar
amount
of
three
seven,
seven,
one,
six,
seven,
nine.
If
you
go
down
the
screen,
a
little
bit
is
going
to
go
towards
the
cost
of
the
wrf
project.
Now,
as
I've
shared
with
you
today,
and
maybe
not
others,
our
strongest
enterprise
fund
is
water
and
sewer
right
now.
B
So
we
would
be
okay
if
we
got
nothing
in
still
being
able
to
do
that
project.
But
I
would
also
say
that
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
tell
you
is
that
project
just
got
more
expensive
between
the
time
we
had
the
capital
improvement
workshop
and
today
and
is
likely
to
get
even
more
so
so
that
challenge
that
you're,
describing
which
I
think
you
were
trying
to
anticipate
would
be.
I
would
recommend
that
if
the
worst
canary
scenario
happened,
I
would
recommend
taking
on
debt
for
that.
B
If
we
had
to,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
to
and
we
have
a
adequate
supply
of
cash
in
401.
The
other
thing
you
got
to
remember
is
this:
should
at
worst
just
be
a
delay
right
there
shouldn't
be
you're,
not
getting
it
so,
even
at
a
delay.
What
we
remember
and
sometimes
take
advantage
of,
which
is
why
that
carryover
policy
really
makes
sense,
is
that
we
just
want
to
get
these
projects
started.
We
know
they're
multi-year
projects.
B
So
if
we
didn't
get
that
money
before
the
end
of
this
year,
we
would
be
making
adjustments
to
the
budget,
but
we'd
have
enough
cash
to
make
payments.
Okay,
so
we're
okay,
thank
you
and
then
just
quickly,
just
because
he's
got
it
up
there.
Most
of
you
have
heard
that
the
restrictions
on
the
use
of
the
arpa
money
were
revenue
shortfalls
and
I'm
very
proud
of
the
finance
people,
because
you
guys
put
us
on
to
this,
the
mayor
partially
for
the
in
for
the
public.
B
When
we
were
talking
about
trying
to
estimate
how
this
was
going
to
affect
us,
we
were
tracking
this
from
day
one
and
on
the
one
hand,
one
of
the
things
we
were
surprised
about
was
the
effect
of
the
pandemic
on
our
last
fiscal
year,
I
would
say
was
far
less
than
we
thought
it
would
be,
but
it
was
within
one
percent
of
what
my
finance
staff
projected
it
to
be.
That
number
300
000
is
a
budget
figure,
but
I
think
our
actual
total
was
293
was
that
close
to
that
293?
B
So
our
calculation
of
how
much
the
general
fund
suffered
last
year
was
293
000
now
on
a
15
million
dollar
budget
right,
that's
not
bad,
all,
right
one-fifth
and
then
another
15
17..
That's
probably
what
two
percent
or
something
like
that.
So
it
would
it.
We
fared
much
better
now
back
to
arpa,
we're
only
allowed
to
use
those
funds
for
revenue
shortfall
which
we
are
planning
on
it
and
any
kind
of
enterprise
enterprise
is
a
little
loose
for
a
term
any
kind
of
infrastructure,
specifically
emphasizing
water
sewer
storm
order.
B
We
had
to
ask,
but
we
got
the
okay,
which
was
very
important
and
enterprise
infrastructure,
which
is
absolutely
what
we're
planning
on
doing
with
the
money.
So
there
was
a
conversation
in
the
county
that
you
guys
went
through
a
month
or
so
ago,
when
barry
wanted
to
send
kumbaya
and
have
everybody
together
and
go
hey.
Maybe
we
could
combine
funds
to
solve
problems
that
affect
us
all
we
went
and
most
of
the
other
you
most
of
the
other
agencies
did
the
same
thing.
So
thank
you
very
much,
but
we
know
we're
doing
with
the
money.
B
A
Okay,
one
other
thing
I'll
just
you
mentioned
that
now
on
the
second
extension
that
came
in
somewhere
around
july
6th.
How
far
does
that
give
the
state
to
either
be
looking
for
another
extension
or
finally
cut
a
check.
A
B
The
question
the
answer
to
the
question
is,
I
think,
it's
supposed
to
be
the
end
of
september
now
me
personally,
I
don't
buy
anything
anybody's
saying
because
they
didn't
give
us
the
money
five
days
after
they
didn't
have
an
extent.
That's
illegal!
That's
supposed
to
be
something
and
there's
supposed
to
be
something
that
can
be
done.
We
were
talking,
the
managers
were
talking
about
it
to
try
and
recommend
something
to
you
to
send
to
the
federal
government
about
money
that
the
federal
government
shares
with
the
state.
That's
how
mad
we
were
magically.
B
They
came
up
with
one
more
extension,
I'm
fairly
certain
we're
going
to
get
it
this
month
or
next
month.
It's
just
really
puckering
time
because
in
the
one
hand,
especially
if
we
were
going
to
do
those
big
projects,
we
were
looking
at
a
tax
increase.
I
didn't
want
a
tax
increase,
we
got
a
nice
little
run
going,
so
the
promise
turned
around
the
way.
A
B
In
years
it's
been
four
and
years,
it's
been
five.
Traditionally
it's
been
three,
so
without
breaking
the
bank,
we
haven't
had
a
cola
all
the
time.
I
reinstated
the
cola
last
year
two
years
ago,
two
years
ago,
so
it's
a
combined
for
the
two
on
the
adjustment.
We're
making
was
meant
to
try
and
help
the
people
that
didn't
make
as
much
money.
A
B
B
I
wasn't
bright
enough
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it.
When
I
did
budgets
by
myself,
because
I
was
using
lotus,
so
she
got
us
on
that
run,
and
this
is
a
big
deal.
B
I
mean
it
doesn't
mean
that
nobody
else
does
great
budgets,
but
I
can
tell
you-
and
I
won't
name
names,
but
I
can
tell
you
of
a
city
that
we
absolutely
have
great
respect
for
that
lost
it
once
you
get
it,
you
don't
want
to
lose
it,
and
there
are
people
in
the
industry
that
review
these
things
ad
nauseum
I
mean
it's
a
process
and
you've
got
to
follow.
It
you'll
see
something
that
we
did
to
improve
this
budget.
That
was
a
comment
that
was
made
on
the
last
one
that
we
got
reviewed.
A
A
B
B
There's
your
first:
what
do
you
call
it
theme
egg
or
what
is
it
easter,
egg,
easter,
egg?
Okay,
that's
the
easiest
one!
I'm
told,
because
I
even
found
that
one
all
right,
the
on
page
19,
just
a
comment.
Obviously
you
know
it's
our
job
to
execute
council
priorities
which
you
guys
set
of
all
the
years
and
even
when
mayor
bevis
was
the
mayor,
we
started
changing
our
philosophy
from
not
necessarily
that
we
weren't
growing,
but
that
we
really
needed
to
focus
on
maintenance
of
what
we
had.
B
So
this
might
be
the
easiest
simplest,
straightforward
list
of
council
priorities.
We've
ever
had
because
we're
focusing
on
the
unsexy
roads.
You
know
the
bmx
track.
Wrf
I
mean
everything.
We're
doing
now
is
big
bucks,
very
straightforward
maintenance,
oriented
and
that's
why
that
list
looks
probably
less
creative
than
it
has
in
some
years.
A
You'll
go
from
council
to
council
and
everybody's
got
their
little
sticky
pads
and
we're
going
down
these
different
paths,
and
I
think
that-
and
I
think
that's
a
lot
of
the
leadership
that
comes
from
the
city,
manager's
role
as
well
in
terms
of
keeping
us
kind
of
honed
in
so
that
we
get
things
done,
although
we'll
probably
never
be
another,
probably
never
be
at
another
budget
workshop,
where
we
hear
the
word
puckering
so
much,
but.
B
So
moving
on
uncertain
honestly
at
least
I
haven't
fallen
down,
yes
page
20
and
I
did
not
intentionally
mean
to
wear
the
same
shirt
but
there's
a
picture
of
a
fat
guy
with
man
boobs
I'll
bet.
You
never
heard
that
in
a
bunch
of
workshop
either
it's
on
a
roll.
So
let's.
B
All
right,
so
we
see
some
great
graphics
and
pictures
of
firehouse
where
our
tribute
to
911
and
then
the
city
of
oldsmore
kind
of
a
historical
perspective
which
is
good
information
and
then
the
community
profile
on
page
26.
B
This
is
really
good
information
to
use.
As
a
reference,
you
hear
the
questions,
a
lot
about
the
capacity
of
the
sewer
plant
capacity
or
the
how
much
we
produce
or
consume
with
the
water
plant.
It's
all
right
here.
It's
an
average.
We've
also
heard
comments
made
about
our
parks.
There
you
can
see
we
have
eight
11
of
them
and
they're
all
very
expensive
and
the
playground
equipment
just
so
that
chip
stays
awake
is
really
expensive,
because
every
time
he
hits
me
with
one,
it's
50
grand
and
then
the
economics
probably
no
surprises
there.
B
Although
you
might
see
that
change
the
next
couple
of
years,
if
the
results
of
the
pandemic
don't
drastically
alter
the
way
businesses
do
business,
you
know
we
one
of
our
biggest
fears
in
terms
of
the
tax
roll
was
not
just
tpp,
but
was
the
thought
of,
for
example,
what
if
nielsen
doesn't
ever
go
back
now?
B
If
they
no
longer
need
that
building
now
that
building's
value
hopefully
is
valuable
to
somebody
else
that
wants
to
be
there,
you
know
there's
some
potential,
we
don't
get
too
worried
about
it,
but
it's
all
there
that
particular
graph
or
table
I
like,
because
obviously,
woodland
square
is
the
currently
most
valued
taxable
asset,
but
one
two,
the
next
two
of
the
three,
the
next
four
are
all
nielsen,
they're
different
llc's
that
were
created
so
realistically,
the
nielsen
property
is
still
the
most
valuable
taxable
asset
that
we
have
that.
B
Fourth,
one
is
the
aventine
apartments.
I
didn't
realize
that
that's
a
lot
of
money.
Okay,
if
no
questions
we're
moving
on
we're
getting
close
to
the
numbers.
This
is
these
are
procedural.
I
won't
go
through
them.
Unless
you
have
a
question
the
budget
process,
the
budget
calendar
we
do
have
to
record
as
part
of
that
review,
our
budgetary
and
financial
policies.
That's
one
of
the
criteria
to
the
program
for
the
award
so
I'll
I'll
bounce
through
those
the
funds
description
we
have
in
every
year,
just
kind
of
tells
you
in
the
overall
sense.
B
We
have
three
kinds
of
well.
We
actually
have
four,
but
three
basic
categories
of
funds.
The
general
fund
or
governmental
funds
involves
the
general
fund.
It
also
involves
special
revenue
funds.
The
difference
is
general
funds
are
funded
by
tax
revenue,
predominantly
there's
utility
taxes,
there's
other
things
charge
for
services
grants
whatever,
but
the
focus
on
the
general
fund
is
we
use
tax
rates
to
fund
it.
The
special
revenue
funds
are
generally
restricted
in
what
you
can
buy
because
that's
where
money
comes
in
and
you
just
have
to
be
limited
to
what
you
can
spend
it.
B
On
best
example,
there
is
like
the
local
option:
sales
tax,
which
is
the
penny
for
pinellas
and
the
local
option
gas
tax,
which
you'll
see
in
302,
but
the
money
goes
in
there
you're
limited
in
what
you
can
spend
it
on,
which
is
why
it's
called
special
revenue
and
then
enterprise
debt
service
is
kind
of
obvious
enterprises
basically
run
like
a
business.
You
have
a
fund
water,
sewer,
storm
water,
solid
waste,
run
like
a
business
funded
by
user
rates.
Okay,
page
37
is
a
city-wide
org
chart
you're
familiar
with
most
of
this.
B
I
don't
think
you
probably,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'd,
be
glad
to
answer
them,
but
that's
pretty
straightforward.
If
you
were
interested
in
knowing
all
of
our
divisions
or
all
of
our
cost,
centers
there's
kind
of
a
list
of
them
functionally,
not
every
one
of
them
has
its
own
cost
center,
but
that's
kind
of
what
we
do
and
how
it
flows
upward
to
the
electors.
B
Okay,
moving
on
38
39
are
pretty
straightforward,
just
38
is
just
going
to
tell
you
the
cost
center
number
and
where
you
will
find
it
which
fund
it's
in
39
is
kind
of
an
over
simplistic
revenue
forecast
methodology
where,
if
we
generally
guess
we
write
historical
trend,
analysis,
that's
and-
and
I'm
saying
that
half
seriously
because
I'll
put
our
guesses
up
against
anybody's
there.
B
We
have
a
picture
of
the
trail.
This
one's
important.
The
outstanding
debt
is
important
because
it
points
that
we
really
only
have
three
pieces
of
debt.
Now.
Remember
the
veterans
park
debt
we
have
refunded
once
and
it's
almost
paid
off
it'll,
be,
I
think
our
last
payment
is
this
year
next
year,
meaning
9,
30,
21.,
sorry,
9,
30,
22.,
so
9,
30,
22
that'll
disappear,
obviously
harbor
pounds
we
just
took
that
so
that'll
be
2033
before
we're
done
there.
B
B
This
is
one
of
the
criteria
for
the
award,
but
where
you'll
see
this
before,
if
you
look
at
the
newspaper,
one
of
our
trim
requirements
truth
in
millage,
it's
a
fancy
name
that
the
state
put
up
for
trying
to
convince
everybody
that
we
don't
try
and
hide.
Anything
in
the
process
of
establishing
tax
rates
is
a
budget
summary
and
everybody
has
to
do
one
and
you
have
to
put
it
in
the
paper.
B
This
is
the
ad
that
you'll
see
in
the
paper
now.
The
only
thing
that
could
happen
council
changes
any
of
the
numbers
by
the
time
we
do
it,
which
will
be
between
the
first
and
second
hearing.
The
numbers
would
change.
We'd
have
the
final
numbers
in
the
hearing
that
actually
goes
in
the
newspaper.
If
you
change
anything,
if
we
don't
change
any
of
the
numbers,
this
is
what
it'll
look
like
just
kind
of
a
one-pager
tells
you
all
the
estimated
revenues
sources,
expenditures
all
the
kinds
of
funds.
The
whole
thing
balances
nicely.
B
I
said
I
don't
really
care
for
that
methodology
in
terms
of
original
to
original.
It's
about
eight
percent.
Sorry,
eight
million
more
remember
the
combination
of
the
money
we're
supposed
to
get
this
year
and
next
year
for
arpa
is
about
seven
and
a
half,
so
you
could
pretty
much
say
that
it's
flat
or
it's
increased
by
the
amount
of
the
arpa
money.
B
So
if
anybody
had
any
questions
about
these,
I
can
get
into
the
detail.
When
we
get
there.
Obviously,
you'd
look
at
parkland
dedication
and
see
a
whopping
increase
generally.
We'll
make
a
comment
that
parkland
dedication,
especially
in
the
small
funds,
there's
very
little
concrete
information
to
go
by
construct.
You
know
you
can
do
building
permits
and
expectation
of
major
projects
or
whatever
so
a
lot
of
times
it's
either
driven
by
what
we
have
to
do
or
driven
by
a
project,
because
cash
is
very,
very
important.
B
You've
heard
me
say:
cash
is
king,
so
part
of
the
budget
sometimes
is
taking
cash
that
you
have
on
hand
and
appropriating
it
towards
the
next
year
as
a
budget
balancer
so
depending
on
which
fund
it
is,
in
this
particular
case,
parkland
dedication
fund.
We
don't
generally
have
a
whole
lot
of
activity
there,
but
that's
why
that
particular
one
and
we'll
get
into
the.
Why?
When
we
see
it
is
267
planned
increase
on
what
we
had
budgeted
for
this
year,
just
sometimes
with
construction,
it
it
ebbs
and
flows.
B
So
really
all
I
need
to
all.
I
would
ask
you
to
focus
on
this.
That
first
column
is
telltale,
because
that's
actual
so
that
kind
of
tells
you
well,
we
spent
in
what
would
have
been
last
fiscal
year,
27
million
two,
so
that
would
mean
chances
are
if
our
original
budget
last
year
was
30
million.
We
didn't
spend
everything
so
that's
kind
of
good,
but
that's
a
very
good
one
pager
for
the
expenditure
side
on
everything
we
have
all
funds,
47
same
thing
all
funds,
but
it's
based
on
category.
B
This
kind
of
goes
back
to
that
balance.
Comment
they
made
before
personal
services
represents
about
28
of
our
total
operating
23.
capital
is
a
little
heavy
this
year
because
of
the
opera
money
going
towards
capital
projects,
but
that's
good
balance.
That's
decent
balance,
we're
not
spending
too
much
money
on
personnel,
which
leaves
us
some
money
to
do
operating
things
and
capital.
We
just
make
sure
the
funds
are
available
before
we
commit
to
that.
You'll
see
also
that
just
because
I
tend
to
be
not
mr
fun
at
budget
time.
B
That
column
that
says,
departmental
request
is
quite
a
bit
higher
than
what
I
approved.
So
you
guys
get
the
final
say
on
that,
but
it
tells
you
that
we're
not
rubber,
stamping
things
when
we
have
our
budget
meetings.
Okay,
page
48
again
relates
to
all
funds
but
focuses
on
revenue
by
category
where
you
get
to
see
some
of
the
specifics.
B
Like
I
mentioned
on
that
the
table
in
the
budget
message
that
said,
the
levy,
meaning
the
basis
for
property
taxes
was
only
going
up
2.67,
but
you
see
here
the
projected
increase
for
avalon
taxes,
which
includes
delinquent
as
a
category,
is
a
little
higher
than
that.
That's
why
that
number's
not
identical
in
some
cases
it
would
be,
but
this
involves
more
than
just
the
levy.
This
is
our
tax
rate
times
the
levy
that
yields
the
revenue
all
right,
you'll
see
on
building
permits.
So
you
see
your
subtotal
by
category
subtotal
taxes.
B
Sorry,
next,
what's
that
row,
intergovernmental
revenue
is
where
you'll
see
the
first
of
the
projected
arpa
money
that
2122
recommended
at
3.7
is
us
putting
the
anticipated
opera
money
in
the
next
year's
budget.
That
is
actually
next
year's
upper
money.
All
right
I'll
show
you
where
the
rest
of
it
is,
if
I
didn't
already
blow
by
it
all
right
next
category
charge
for
services.
I
just
want
to
say
this:
here's
here's
an
interesting
one
in
charge
for
services.
I
would
say
the
pandemic
had
the
greatest
effect
on
us
in
charge
of
services
in
leisure
services.
B
Negative,
here's
a
surprise.
Maybe
in
utilities
positive
everybody
stayed
home.
People
used
more
water,
people
used
more
utilities
so
where
we
were
kind
of
anticipating
across
the
board,
a
reduction
in
some
of
the
revenues.
In
some
cases
it
didn't
materialize,
but
we
didn't
anticipate
why?
So
in
this
particular
case,
obviously,
recreation
programming
took
a
hit
and
that's
something
that
you
know
was
real,
because
we
couldn't
have
some
of
the
programs
and
we
did
a
pretty
good
job
of
having
quite
a
few
of
them.
B
Chip
did
a
great
job
of
altering
them
so
that
we
could
have
something
to
drive
through
halloween
the
drive-through
christmas.
I
mean
we're
becoming
better
and
better
known
for
that.
Now.
Those
aren't
as
much
money
makers,
because
it's
harder
to
charge
people
money
to
drive
through
our
yields
park,
but
he
did
a
great
job
of
keeping
it
going
all
right.
So
the
rest
of
the
categories
tend
to
be
less
significant,
but
we
have
miscellaneous.
We
have
fines
and
fortress
forfeitures.
B
The
transfers
will
get
to
the
transfers
are
literally
either
money
that
we're
transferring
from
one
fund
to
another
for
debt
service
or
between
funds
for
a
particular
purpose
and
we'll
get
to
the
purpose.
When
we
get
to
the
fund
that
proceeds
as
you'll
see
2122
no
new
anticipated
debt
and
then
the
appropriate
reserve.
I
mentioned
that
before
that's
basically
cash
that
we
anticipate
being
used
in
the
next
year.
The
federal
government
has
a
real
problem
with
this
federal
government
tends
to
budget
in
multiple
years
at
the
same
time.
B
B
We
don't
know
how
much
money
extra
we're
going
to
have
at
the
end
of
the
year,
so
we
don't
know
that
we
can
commit
any
of
it
to
the
following
year.
Now,
obviously,
we've
been
around
for
a
while,
so
we
don't
have
that
problem.
But
can
you
imagine
in
the
federal
government,
where
they're
trying
to
budget
two
years
at
a
time
for
things
that
are
gaps
or
things
that
they
have
to
use
and
affect
cash
for
that's
a
real,
such
some
serious
guesswork?
B
So
I'm
confident
that
what
we
do
is
appropriate
and
conservative,
but
it
does
involve
sometimes
which
we
do
every
year,
taking
money
that
we
know
we
have
and
committing
it
to
the
next
year.
It
functions
as
a
budget.
Balancer
is
the
best
way
to
say
it
all
right.
Moving
on
page
51.,
all
right.
This
is
focusing
specifically
on
the
general
fund.
B
The
news,
the
best
news
here
or
the
the
best
information
here
would
be
what
it
tells
you
about.
Each
of
the
divisions
in
the
fund,
the
ones
that
obviously
would
jump
out
at
you
would
be.
The
city
managers
depart
department
where
you
see
a
whopping
increase.
That,
in
large
part,
is
the
extra
position
for
my
new
position
so
that
that's
why
that
division
has
gone
up
so
much
you'll
also
see
planning
and
redevelopment
gone
way
way
down
now.
B
More
often
than
not,
we
cross
the
million
dollar
threshold
and
what
I
say
what
I
mean
by
that
is
politically-
and
I
remember
a
year
back
early
in
my
career,
where
the
point
at
which
we
crossed
a
million
dollars
in
the
police
department
set
kind
of
the
council
on
fire
thinking.
How
can
we,
this
tiny
little
city
pay
a
million
dollars
for
this?
In
that
particular
case,
it
was
another
city
we
went
to
the
sheriff,
which
was
a
great
move
and
they
still
have
the
sheriff.
B
But
just
so
you
see
there's
a
threshold
here
now
with
everything
we've
got
going
on
with
downtown
with
all
of
the
projects
we've
gone
on,
it's
appropriate
to
assume
we're
going
to
have
more
maintenance
to
do
more
programs
to
carry
over.
I
think
this
is
a
good
thing.
I
don't
think
this
is
a
bad
thing,
especially
since
it
hasn't
resulted
in
us
having
to
do
a
tax
increase
in
order
to
fund
it.
But
it's
an
observation
and
then
a
couple
of
the
whopping
percentages.
B
She
talks.
I
can't
hear
him
anyway,
so
we're
promoting
him.
So
you'll
see
the
personal
services
proposed
to
be
increased
a
little
bit
and
then
the
fleet
maintenance,
we're
moving
a
few
positions
and
in
that
particular
case,
we're
moving
charlie
over
directly
to
fleet.
So
that's
generally
his
salary
and
the
reason
we're
doing
that
is
we're
finally
getting
to
the
point
where
we
need
a
supervisor
specifically
for
each
of
the
field.
Public
works
divisions
years
back
with
the
bob
sear
days.
We
had
one
field
guy
that
was
kind
of
the
universal
field.
B
Guy
we
morphed
when
bob
left
into
some
things
that
required
more
specific
talents.
Melanie
grigsby
was
more
of
a
stormwater
person,
so
we
use
the
position
to
try
and
get
what
we
need
out
of
the
talents
of
the
individual
and
made
do
with
the
supervisors
within
we're.
Now
to
the
point
where
charlie
is
a
mechanic,
and
all
you
gotta
do
is
go
look
at
his
garage
and
you'll
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
B
So
we're
moving
him
directly
because
he
was
the
public
works
administrator
where
he
had
field
responsibility
for
three
field
divisions,
but
we
had
two.
We
had
one
other
field
supervisor,
so
we
had
one
field
supervisor
supervising
two
divisions
didn't
make
any
sense,
so
we're
promoting
we're
proposing
that
we
promote
somebody.
So
we
have
three
supervisors
in
three
field:
divisions,
those
three
being
streets:
storm
water
and
fleet;
okay.
B
So
that's
what
you'll
see
that
when
it
comes
up
now,
the
good
news,
if
you
will
is
if
you
look
at
the
grand
total
of
the
increase
again
it's
compared
to
the
revised
total
of
this
year's.
Only
up.
2.4
percent
you'll
also
notice,
there's
more
consistency
in
the
general
fund
than
you
see
in
other
funds,
because
the
general
fund
normally
has
less
capital
in
it.
You
think
about
that.
You
don't
want
to
fund
capital
in
the
general
fund.
B
If
you
don't
have
to
it's
nice,
if
you
can,
but
if
you're,
using
tax
money
to
make
general
fund
decisions.
Well,
capital
projects
are
going
to
be
all
over
the
map.
So,
if
you're
going
to
spend
tax
money
on
capital
projects,
you're
probably
going
to
have
a
problem,
so
you'll
see
more
consistency
in
the
general
fund,
because
it's
focused
more
on
funding
personal
services
and
operating
costs,
and
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
bargain
or
the
pie
graph,
that
john
just
put
up
there
you'll
see
in
this
particular
case.
B
Remember
we
talked
about
the
overall
personal
services
being
28
city-wide,
but
it's
heavier
in
the
general
fund.
It's
57
and
you'll
see.
Capital
is
very
little
at
six
and
operating
is
32.
so
between
the
two
in
the
pieces
of
pi
9
89
to
90
percent
of
this
in
general
fund
is
either
personnel
cost
or
operating
costs.
B
Okay,
now
moving
on
to
page
53,
a
picture
of
general
fund
revenue.
Specifically,
here
is
the
first
place
again:
you'll
see
the
general
fund
portion
of
the
ad
valorem
tax
money,
which
now
we're
anticipating
receiving
6
million
plus
and,
as
you
go
down
the
column
in
the
third
category,
it's
broken
down
the
same
categories
that
I
showed
you
a
couple
pages
ago
where
it
said
it
was
all
of
the
funds
by
category
third
set
of
categories.
B
You'll
see
federal
grants,
300
000,
that's
that
reference
to
the
revenue
shortfall
that
we're
presuming
we're
going
to
get
out
of
the
arpa
money.
So
that's
the
piece
we're
allowed
if
we
can
prove
because
there's
going
to
be
an
audit
here,
it
won't
be
an
impressive
audit
because
it'll
be
from
the
federal
government
or
worse.
The
state
government.
B
Sorry,
is
that
too
much
you're
on
a
roll,
but
the
particulars
of
it
is.
We
have
to
be
able
to
prove
that
we
had
that
revenue
shortfall
and
I'm
very
confident
we
can
prove
that
so
we're
budgeting
that
300
000
in
the
general
fund,
because
we're
allowed
to
and
that's
the
amount
of
money
that
we
were
down
from
the
pandemic
now,
obviously,
because
we're
still
in
the
pandemic
or
round
two.
This
could
happen
again.
B
B
That's
generally
the
penny
for
pinellas
money,
that's
a
real
guess,
because
the
county,
when
they
put
out
the
estimates,
are
always
just
incredibly
optimistic
and
it's
economically
driven.
So
the
economy
goes
up
and
down,
but
we're
anticipating
about
a
million
and
a
half
in
penny
money
next
year
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
before,
when
you
look
to
charge
for
services,
you
see
those
funds
down
by
almost
80
plus
thousand
dollars
from
this
year.
B
The
one
big
figure
you
might
see
there
is
the
other
miscellaneous
that
involves
some
things.
That
generally
aren't
a
lot
of
money,
and
that
involves
something
we
call
administrative
cost
allocations.
Those
are
funds.
We
charge
the
enterprise
funds
so
that
the
general
fund
gets
reimbursed
for
services.
They
provide
to
other
funds
in
some
other
budgets,
some
other
cities,
you
might
see
something
called
an
internal
service
fund.
It's
a
variable
percentage.
B
We
use
seven
percent
this
year.
It's
an
academic
thing.
You
ask
10
different
cities,
they
all
do
it
different
ways,
but
we
try
and
measure
what
it
is
we're
providing
to
those
funds
quantify
it
charge
them
as
an
expense.
So
you'll
you'll
see
the
expense
in
the
enterprise
funds
and
recorded
as
a
revenue
in
the
general
fund.
B
B
you'll
see
a
nice
picture
of
that's
katie's
son
and
is
that
tonya's
daughter,
so
both
admin
services,
people
and
the
kids
and
then
we're
getting
into
the
council
so
as
councilmember
gannon
has
already
spoiled
it
for
everybody
by
mentioning
that
the
new
part
of
this
in
order
to
get
the
award
is
performance
measures
that
was
a
critique
of
the
reviewers
of
our
past
budget,
not
enough
not
to
get
the
award,
but
a
comment
made
now.
Let
me
tell
you
something
about
that
again
years
ago.
B
These
are
really
difficult
to
do
because
they're
difficult
to
do
accurately
and
they
take
great
amount
of
resources
to
quantify
some
of
the
things
we
do.
So
I'm
we're
committed
to
this
attempt,
but
I
can
also
tell
you,
I
know
somebody
because
she
was
one
of
my
mentors
100
years
ago,
when
I
was
in
my
master's
program.
It's
also
one
of
the
toughest
things
to
maintain
funding
for,
if
you're,
in
a
difficult
funding
situation.
B
First
thing
that
usually
gets
lopped
is
whoever's
in
charge
of
performance
measures.
So
this
will.
This
is
spotty.
I'm
admitting
that
now
it's
there
and
it's
there
with
our
best
guess
at
what
we
have
done
and
what
we
will
do
and
what
we're
committed
to
trying
to
do,
but
a
large
part
it's
for
the
hopeful
part
that
a
the
awards
committee
sees
it
and
b
they
don't
watch
this.
B
Just
to
make
sure
everybody
was
awake:
okay,
city,
council
expenditures,
you'll
see
a
very
tiny
increase
from
year
to
year,
but
here's
our
first
possible
conversation.
If
council
wants
to
have
it
from
page
57.,
we
distributed
a
spreadsheet
from
councilmember
gannon's
request.
You
see
it
on
the
board
right
now.
One
of
the
things
we
always
have
is
a
conversation
about
aid
to
governments.
Other
governments
and
private
agencies
you'll
see
the
particulars
of
what
we
budgeted
for
this
year
and
I
think
we
still
have
the
same
amount
listed.
B
There
you'll
see
our
year-to-date
total
column
and
the
proposed
budget.
Now
the
only
real
difference
in
what
we
proposed
here
was
based
on
a
change
in
the
way
we
were
handling
our
relationship
with
what
was
soon
as
dancers
group,
the
theater
group
we
forced
them
to
say
instead
of
us,
buying
things
for
you
that
I'll
recommend
an
increase
to
our
funding
level.
B
If
you
guys
go,
get
a
501c3
become
official
and
take
care
of
your
own
accounting,
in
which
case
it
would
their
own
irs
headaches
instead
of
relying
on
us
to
do
it
for
them
which
they
did
and
we're
actually
very
excited
about
that
the
programs
are
fabulous.
So
you,
this
isn't
literally
six
thousand
dollars
more.
It's
probably
one
thousand
dollars
more
or
maybe
two
that
we
had
in
the
budget
elsewhere
in
prior
years,
but
we're
putting
it
here
because
now
they
are
a
certified
llc,
501c
501c3,
so
we
are
living
up
to
our
end.
B
I
promised
her
we'd
recommend
more
funding.
That
is
more
funding
than
we've
paid
them
in
the
past
years.
But
that's
why
that
number
is
a
little
higher.
We
also
received
two
other
written
requests,
one
of
which
was
maddie
williams,
which
she
does
traditionally
every
year
and
you
can
see
that
has
been
funded
and
continues
to
be
funded.
The
second
one
was
from
former
cpo
and
retired
sheriff's
deputy
rick.
Sarah,
from
what
we
used
to
know
as
the
holiday
sharing
fund.
That's
now
called
kid's
pedal
power.
Now
he
made
a
request.
It's
actually
both.
B
I
asked
about
it:
oh
okay,
so
he
made
a
request,
but
he
didn't
quantify
it.
So
one
of
the
things
would
that
I'd
ask
council
to
do
was
if
you
want
to
make
a
donation
to
that
decide
what
it
is,
we'll
enter
it.
If
you
want
to
change
any
of
these
decide
what
it
is,
we'll
change
it
if
there's
any
others,
but
those
were
the
only
three
that
gave
us
written
requests.
A
Okay,
so
I
I
have
a
suggestion
with
holiday
sharing
fun.
They
do
just
over
30
bicycles
here
in
the
city,
and
so
in
the
past.
We've
kind
of
tried
to
stay
narrowly
focused
on
where
they're,
what
they're
doing
in
oldsmar,
and
I
would
propose
that
we
add
three
thousand
dollars
to
the
budget
as
a
donation
for
it.
A
It
has
us
kind
of
funding
the
they
run
at
about
a
hundred
dollars,
a
piece,
as
I
understand
it,
with
helmets,
I
was
gonna
say:
do
they
provide
the
helmet
now
too
yeah
yeah,
yes,
and
so
that
would
be
my
suggestion,
because
it
would
then
give
them
the
ability
to
expand
it.
So
I'd
put
there
put
that
out
there
as
a
suggestion.
A
Did
the
keep
pinellas
beautifuls
did
that
come
from
a
letter
last
year
that
we're
carrying
forward
to
this
year.
B
We
did
not
receive
a
letter,
but
in
many
cases
we
get
the
letter
we
get
it
after
the
fact
we've
been
a
member
of
that
organization
for
a
few
years,
and
I
think
we
started
it
up
the
first
time
they
sent
us
a
letter,
but
we
don't
we.
We
don't
presume
that
we're
going
to
get
these
on
time,
because
a
lot
of
people
have
different
fiscal
years
than
we
do.
Gotcha.
B
B
B
All
right
so
page
59
was
nothing
more
than
the
fte
reference,
the
performance
measures
that
we
talked
about
specifically
and
with
human
resources,
as
you
can
tell
that
michelle's
in
the
city
manager's
department,
and
so
we
have
performance
measures
there.
The
particulars
on
page
60
are
just
the
numerical
reference
to
the
categories.
B
One
thing:
you'll
notice
is:
there's
no
capital
in
there,
but
you'll
see
the
totals
of
the
personal
services
and
operating
and
the
fact
that
that's
about
22
higher
than
it
was
this
year
because
of
what
we
just
talked
about
so
page
61
is
meant
to
be
a
little
bit
more
detail,
breaking
down
what
components
make
up
the
personal
services
and
the
operating
but
you'll
see
it
all
reconciles
to
the
same
figures.
So
unless
somebody
has
a
question
on
that,
we'll
move
on
it's
funny.
A
A
B
B
B
You
see,
no,
I'm
not
got
enough
trouble
today.
Already:
okay
city
clerk
department,
okay,
pretty
straightforward,
there,
no
changes
to
the
personnel
and
you'll
see
on
page
63
same
thing
with
the
ftes
same
thing
with
performance
measures.
You
know.
Sometimes,
when
you
look
at
these
it's
it's
kind
of
cool
in
that
sometimes
we
under
appreciate
ourselves
how
much
gets
done,
and
so
I
like
the
fact
that
we're
attempting
to
quantify
it-
I
just
say
it's
tough-
to
do
tougher
in
some
cases
than
in
others.
B
But
a
lot
of
stuff
goes
on
around
here
who
knew
I
guess
I
should
have
okay,
page
64.
city
clerk
expenditures
again
by
category
you'll,
see
a
very
tiny
increase.
The
only
increase
that
you'll
see
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
is
of
the
contractual
on
page
65.,
that's
in
large
part
for
munico
jd.
Is
that
meant
to
be
we're
going
to
have
to
do
that
again,
all
right!
So
one
of
those
things
I
was
telling
you
about
that.
B
What
we
need
to
do
with
communico
it's
going
to
cost
a
little
bit
more,
so
that
number
is
going
to
go
up
by
another
five
grand,
but
that's
so
that
we
can
get
a
project
done
that
we
approve,
when
anne
submitted
it
that
we've
since
found
out
it's
going
to
cost
a
little
bit
more
money,
all
right,
moving
on
67
illegal,
so
tom's
not
here
to
defend
himself.
So
we
can
cut
this
all
over
the
place.
B
B
So
what
did
the
components
of
this
are
pages
68-69?
It's
tom's
retainer
and
it's
also
other
other
work,
contractually.
That's
not
part
of
the
retainer.
It's
also
our
labor
attorney
that
we
have
on
retainer
for
an
occasional
hr
issue
and
is
the
lobbyist
in
there
is
that
part
of
the
lobbyist?
Yes,
so
I'm
recommending
we
maintain
the
lobbyists
now.
I
know
it's
a
tough
environment
to
do,
but
trust
I've
never
been
a
fan
of
lobbyists
ever
and
I
love
these
guys
like
you,
you
call
them,
you
don't
get
their
office,
you
don't
get.
B
You
know
their
buddies,
you
get
them
and
again.
I
think
this
isn't
the
first
time.
I've
said
this
one
of
the
places
where
they
do
the
greatest
work
for
us
is:
they
have
some
real
juice
with
state
agencies
which,
if
you
haven't
already
sensed
the
sarcasm,
is
one
of
my
least
favorite
places
they
every.
If
I
have
a
problem
with
the
state
agency,
I
don't
call
the
agency,
I
call
the
lobbyists
they
require
the
guys
that
they
have,
which
are
generally
high-ranking
officials
to
sit
down.
B
They
go
through
things
and
I
I
get
excellent
results
out
of
that.
So
it's
60
grand
for
the
year
cindy
has
a
little
fun
in
reconciling
those
little
extra
pieces
where
they
charge
us
for
a
pro
at
a
piece
of
their
extra
expenses.
But
it's
de
minimis
good
one.
I
agree
all
right,
so
I
I'd
say
it's
well
worth
it
and
I'd
recommend
we
keep
it.
The
reason
it
looks
so
much
lower,
I'm
guessing
is:
did
we
have
a
chunk
of
money
in
there
for
the
bmx
suit?
That's
no
longer
there.
B
B
B
That
was
probably
the
labor.
No,
that
was
probably
my
people,
reminding
me
that
I
forgot
to
put
the
labor
attorney
in
there.
A
B
So
on
page
71,
you,
as
you'll
see
what
we've
had
to
do
is
strategically
try
and
decide
how
we
were
going
to
react
to
what
the
county
did
and
also
remember.
As
I
printed
in
my
update
last
week
that
the
transition
officially
starts
september
1st,
to
be
totally
honest
with
you
and
I
hope,
tatiana's
going
to
nod
her
head
on
this.
When
I
put
my
glasses
back
on,
we
still
don't
know
all
of
how
it's
going
to
change.
B
Truth
of
the
matter
is
probably
three
of
them,
but
it
annoys
me
that
they
assume
they
make
a
decision
like
this.
That
they're
not
going
to
agree
to
send
somebody
down
to
get
them.
So
what
we
try
to
do
is
say
well
how
about
we
give
them
back
to
the
applicant,
make
them
do
it
and
they
said
no,
that's
probably
appropriate.
We
don't
want
them
to
have
the
opportunity
to
doctor
them,
but
it's
like
there
are
little
things
in
the
relationship
that
we
still
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
work
out.
B
This
was
based
on
our
best
guess
as
to
how
our
our
personnel
for
the
transition
was
going
to
be
used.
Remember
also
marie
retired
december
31st
tatiana
was
promoted
michelle
retired
in
november.
We
have
not
replaced
her
and
we're
not
planning
on
it
partially
because
the
cra
is
going
to
expire.
Part
of
her
title
and
responsibilities
were
related
to
the
cra,
so
we
weren't
planning
on
replacing
her
because
unless
we
magically
get
some
kind
of
extension,
cra
will
be
done
in
2020,
five
or
six.
B
It's
a
30-year
thing
and
that's
a
big
guessing
game
as
to
which
year
it
is,
but
it's
one
of
those
two.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
some
variable
some
changes
in
the
personnel
on
that
page
and
beneath
it
are
the
performance
measures
again,
tough
to
really
figure
out
what
to
measure
and
tough
to
actually
predict
those
things,
but
we'll
do
the
best.
We
can
okay,
page
72
kind
of
a
rehash
of
what
we
already
talked
about,
seeing
the
drastic
reduction
in
those
figures
between
the
city
approved
column
and
the
this
year's
budget.
B
We
talked
about
all
of
those
positions,
page
73.
The
fewer
personnel
explains
the
detail
to
the
personal
services
going
down.
I
just
want
to
touch
quickly
on
the
aid
to
government
private
agency
figure
here,
which
you'll
see
is
19
and
10..
B
B
But
10
I
thought
was
always
it's
for
commercial
beautification
incentive.
What's
the
name
of
it
is.
A
That
right
program
thank.
B
You
yeah
in
the
commercial
sector
now,
if
somebody
look,
if
we
got
inundated
with
requests,
I'd
come
back
to
you
in
the
budget
revision
and
has
to
put
more
in
there
yeah.
So
I
don't
think
it's
a
major
deal,
but
I
was
trying
to
be
as
lean
as
we
could.
Under
the
circumstances,
is
it
paint.
A
B
A
B
A
B
B
B
I
still
say
this
is
the
best
bargain
in
town
with
everything
they
have,
and
I
know
we've
shared
some
stories
and
some
opinions
on
that
that
they
just
do
a
fabulous
job.
We
also
included
in
the
overall
budget.
The
insurance
is
a
pro
rate
that
we
calculate
based
on
the
overall
insurance
bill,
because
we
have
arizona
emissions,
they
have
their
own
insurance,
but
we
have
some
situation
where
there's
some
exposure,
so
we
charge
them
for
a
piece
of
it
and
we
charge.
B
B
again,
you'll,
see
you'll,
see
the
capital
is
very
limited
in
dollar
amount.
Remember
the
we
have
a
whole
fund
public
safety
fund
where
we
tend
to
buy
capital
equipment,
the
big
ticket
items
in
the
fire
department.
That's
why
you
don't
see
it
here.
Also,
and
jason
is
straddled
with
this.
This
is
not
his
fault,
but
he's
strapped
he's
got
to
be
super
tight
on
operating
funds,
because
this
is
the
department.
This
is
the
division
that
is
funded
with
tax
money
and
because
he's
so
top-heavy
is
the
way
we
call
it
on
personnel
costs.
B
That
he's
got
to
really
be
tight
on
his
operating
just
to
try
and
keep
control
of
it.
So
we
buy
the
tiny
capital
items
which
you
see.
We've
got
a
couple
there
and
we're
in
the
third
year
or
this
2122
will
be
the
third
year
of
the
existing
contract
with
the
firefighters
just
fyi.
For
them
they
will
get
three
percent
and
then
there's
they
will
also
get
the
cola
so
we'll
start
negotiating
next
year
for
the
next
contract,
which
won't
start
till
october,
1st
of
2022.
B
all
right,
page
82
technical
services,
we're
taking
a
chance
here,
we're
not
even
sure
who
can
find
one
of
these.
But
after
great
conversations
we
lost
the
position,
we
lost
an
engineering
technician,
person
and
nan
daniel
and
finance
and
felicia,
and
I
are
talking
about
what
needs
are
and
the
best
way
to
explain.
This
is
what
we
came
up
with.
B
Is
we're
going
to
try
and
get
a
junior
daniel,
not
that
big,
but
we're
going
to
try
and
get
somebody
that
can
do
a
lot
of
those
things
that
would
enable
us
to
take
that
off
of
daniel's
plate.
It's
a
really
intricate
position.
That
requires
a
lot
of
different
skills.
Michelle's
in
the
process
of
writing.
It
up
you'll
see
it
there
as
an
engineer,
one
we'll.
B
As
I
hope
you
guys
can
imagine
the
work
that
goes
on
between
what
seems
like
everybody,
driving
to
the
basket
of
how
every
flooding
problem
and
every
water
problem
and
every
construction
problem
is
ours
to
fix
the
technical
services
division
with
two
inspectors,
tim
and
brian
and
nan
and
daniel
have
just
an
unlimited
list
of
things
they
got
to
keep
up
with.
So
we
definitely
need
the
body
we're
trying
to
morph
it
into
a
position
that
does
some
good,
but
that's
a
proposal
at
this
point.
We
hope
council
agrees
and
approves
it.
B
The
other
performance
measures
only
because
you've
heard
some
chatter,
probably
about
the
some
of
the
issues
we've
had
with
right-of-way
permits,
was
one
we
decided
to
try
and
measure
who
knows
if
that'll
prove
to
be
true
or
not,
but
we've
uncovered
a
problem
in
gull
air
and
some
other
areas
where
we've
a
lot
of
people
have
taken
liberties
with
the
right-of-way
without
permits.
So
maybe
some
of
this
will
keep
us
a
little
bit
more
on
top
of
that
simply
because
years
ago,
no
almost
nobody
here
was
a
part
of
that.
B
We're
now
trying
to
clean
up
issues
involved
with
people
doing
things
in
the
right
way
without
permission,
all
right,
page
84,
technical
services,
the
expenditures
by
category
you
see
one
capital
item
not
too
expensive,
and
then
the
breakdown
of
the
detail
there
between
expenditures
up
a
little,
because
the
engineer
position
we're
creating
is
a
tiny
bit
more
than
the
position
it's
replacing,
so
that
your
normal,
roughly
four
to
six
percent
increase.
You
would
anticipate
because
of
the
call
of
the
merit
and
the
extra
for
the
lower
paid
people
is
going
to
be
a
little
higher.
B
So
that
makes
sense
and
then
the
total
operating
is
down.
A
little
bit
looks
like
some
of
the
insurance.
Now
here
there's
another
piece:
the
insurance
across
the
board
is
budgeted
by
finance,
not
by
anybody's
personal
response.
We
do
directly
charge
whatever
we
can
identify,
I.e,
flood
coverages
for
buildings
and
whatnot,
but
for
general
liability
errors
and
emissions.
B
Things
like
that,
we
put
them
all
in
a
big
pot.
If
you
will
and
depending
on
the
percentage
of
the
budget,
your
division
represents.
You
get
a
percentage
of
that
bill,
so
those
numbers
tend
to
jump
around
a
little
bit
all
right.
Moving
on
page
86,
the
streets
division,
all
right,
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
where
charlie's
salary
was
budgeted
in
this
division.
As
the
public
works
administrator,
we're
moving
him
to
fleet
he's
going
to
become
fleet
supervisor
so
that
took
that
fte
away.
Mike
jaser
was
the
stormwater
supervisor.
B
I
figured
what
his
title
is:
maintenance
supervisor,
I
think
we're
moving
him
here.
The
plan
right
now
is,
unless
somebody
tells
me
something
differently,
mike
nemes
is
going
to
become
the
streets.
Sorry,
the
stormwater
supervisor
so
you'll
see
that
over
there
you're
looking
at
me
funny,
oh
you
just
gotta
apply
and
his
position
the
good
probation,
but
he's
the
right
guy
for
his
job.
B
No,
I
think
everybody
loved
me
all
right
as
long
as
they
heard
you
it's
all
about
us
all
right.
So
the
point
was
back
to
the
original
concept.
We
wanted
division
directly
over
each
of
sorry
a
supervisor
over
each
of
those
three
divisions
which
this
will
accomplish
all
right.
So
also
we
hired
an
administrative
assistant
last
year
or
part
time
in
order
to
serve
as
an
admin
to
those
field
supervisors.
B
She
has
done
tremendous
work.
We
love
her
but
she's
overwhelmed.
So
we've
asked
her
if
she
would
consider
going
full
time.
One
of
those
changes
is
we're
asking
council
to
approve
the
change
of
that
position
from
part-time
to
full-time
she's.
She's
agreed
that
if
it's
approved
she'll,
do
it
but
she's
been
a
real
fine
for
us
and
I
think
definitely
needed
in
public
works
all
right.
Moving
on
so
page
88
you'll
see
the
categories.
B
B
B
All
right,
that's
good,
because
I
wasn't
even
sure
it
was
spelled
right
all
right.
So
you
see,
even
though
this
is
general
fund
a
little
bit
more
capital
expense
there,
because
we
really
do
have
a
lot
of
things
we
need
to
accomplish
here,
most
specifically
and
again
go
back
to
the
right-of-way
issue,
we're
calling
it
this
is
we're
calling
it
trip
hazard,
elimination,
a
fancy
technical
word
for
sidewalk
work
because
of
some
of
the
litigation
things
we've
experienced
now.
Remember
we
do
this
two
ways
because
you'll
see
it
in
another
place
as
well.
B
We
do
it
in
general
fund.
This
represents
the
money
we
spend
when
our
guys
do
it.
We
replace
one
in
lafayette
today
yesterday,
whatever,
if
our
guys
are
doing
it,
any
expense
gets
charged
here.
If
we
outsource
it,
then
it's
generally
a
capital
project
and
we
charge
it
to
a
different
fund,
so
this
doesn't
mean
we're
only
doing
50
000
worth
of
sidewalk
work.
B
B
The
big
difference
here
for
the
library
is:
we've
been
trying
to
limp,
along
with
the
air
conditioning
in
the
roof
and
we're
getting
killed,
and
we've
got
to
do
something
about
it.
This
is
another
unsexy
one
where
we've
got
to
fix
that
and
we're
going
to
need
a
new
roof
on
top
of
that
now
in
the
capital
budget.
If
you
remember,
I
think
we
split
it
into
two
years,
but
this
is
just
the
tip
of
the
iceberg.
B
This
is
going
to
cost
way
more
than
100
grand
before
we're
done,
and
then
on
top
of
that,
oh
another,
whatever
that's
pretty
clever,
all
right.
So
the
reason
that's
the
capital
there
is
so
much
higher
this
year
is
not
even
touching
what
we're
going
to
have
to
do
with
it
next
year,
because
the
roof
is
going
to
cost
a
lot
more
than
that,
but
we
got
to
get
the
ac.
B
You
know
to
some
acceptable
level
of
service
before
we
do
anything
else.
All
right.
The
personal
services
are
about
straightforward
up
a
little
less
than
five
percent.
Total
operating
is
up
about
eight
percent,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
based
on
the
same
thing.
She
needs
a
lot
of
maintenance
and
repair
stuff,
and
we
just
have
to
do
it.
There's
no,
no
two
ways
about
it
and
we
talked
about
the
capital.
So
any
questions
on
library.
A
B
Sue
has
been
wonderful
in
her
team
approach
to
trying
to
keep
this
as
lean
as
possible,
because
I
gave
her
100
grand
for
ac
and
it
should
have
been
way
more
than
that.
So,
if
council's
desire,
you
talk
to
her,
didn't
you
if,
if
no,
she
doesn't
talk
to
anybody,
your
if
council's
desire
is
to
put
it
back,
I'd
be
glad
to
put
it
back.
She
deserves
it,
but
I
asked
her
to
take
a
haircut
and
she
was
gratefully.
B
B
A
Us
to
purchase
for
that
collection
and
also
another
thing
that
happened
was
while
we
were
closed
down.
A
lot
of
people
made
the
shift
from
books
on
cd
to
the
downloadables,
and
since
there
really
is
no
difference
between
the
content
like
there
is
a
difference
between
ebooks
and
like
a
print
book,
there's
preferences,
but
listening
to
something
a
lot
of
those
people
that
switched
over
to
the
downloadables.
A
A
B
A
B
B
That
generally
means
that's
what
she
probably
expects
to
pay
the
total
of
what
has
been
encumbered,
which
is
significantly
less
than
the
90
and
a
little
bit
less
than
the
85..
It
still
bothers
me
to
this
day
when
I
look
at
the
payable
edits
to
see
the
description
on
some
of
her
purchases,
adult
videos.
B
B
Well,
unfortunately,
this
is
a
whole
another
soapbox,
which
I
won't
get
on
some
of
the
design
work,
the
design
work
on
the
fire.
The
firefighters
have
gone
two
years
without
ac
yeah,
which
didn't
necessarily
get
better
when
we
did
attack
it.
But
if
you
just
thank
god
for
coppola
coppola's,
an
ac
guy
and
he
goes
up
there
and
saves
us
all
kind
of
money
just
to
get
something
to
limp
along
and
he
discovers-
and
that
was
built
in
o3,
that
the
design
of
the
whole
system
should
have
never
happened.
B
You
couldn't
even
get
access
to
the
cabinet
because
it
was
tucked
up
against
the
wall
of
the
building,
so
some
of
the
stuff
we've
encountered
over
the
years
is
just
biting
us
and
I'm
sorry.
I've
had
more
than
one
person
tell
me
with
apologies
to
all
the
ac
people
in
the
world.
Ac
is
built
to
break
it's
a
it's
a
economic
driver.
That's
done
on
purpose,
the
kind
of
way,
the
cheap
cars.
You
know
they
give
you
a
great
service
for
a
year
and
then
they
fall
apart.
B
B
All
right,
so
we're
on
parks
only
comment
I
wanted
to
make
here
other
than
those
pictures
cute.
I
don't
know
is
that
anybody
we
know
anybody's
kid.
Sorry,
it's
a
beautiful
little
girl,
I
think
cute
kid.
The
pages
94.95
I
just
did
want
to
mention,
and
it
ties
into
our
personnel
proposed
or
proposals
is
that
we
have
encouraged
or
encountered
a
labor
shortage
specifically
for
maintenance
operators
which
existed
before
the
pandemic
to
a
degree
and
to
a
large
degree
we
assume
it
was
because
of
price.
B
We
still
have
it
and
there's
a
few
other
positions
where
we
have
it,
but
it
I
mean
the
one
the
place
in
my
outside
life,
where
I've
seen
it
is
restaurants.
Where
you
see,
people
won't
work,
so
you
get
a
a
restaurant's,
not
full,
and
you
got
a
30
minute
wait.
People
are
not
working
for
us.
It's
maintenance
operators
there's
a
few
other
we're
starting
to
suffer
for
we
have
it.
Everybody
suffers
from
it.
Two
varying
degrees
is
fifteen
dollars
an
hour.
We're
gonna
start
gonna
solve
that.
B
I
don't
know,
couldn't
hurt,
but
is
it
gonna
solve
that?
We're
not
sure
anybody.
You
guys
remember:
what's
the
second
worst
one,
we
have
maintenance
operators
have
been
the
worst,
but
I
think
we've
got
another
one.
We've
got
blank
stairs
all
right.
Well,
if
I
come
across
it'll
come
to
me
all
right,
so
we're
on
page
96.,
pretty
straightforward
to
parks
as
you'll
see
the
personal
services,
one
truck,
which
was
approved
as
part
of
the
capital
we're
replacing
some
fencing
in
bicentennial.
B
The
personal
services
are
up
five
percent,
that's
consistent
with
being
reasonable
for
the
proposed
pay
increases.
The
biggest
increases
of
the
contractual
were
now
there's
50
grand
in
there
we're
now
outsourcing
the
median
mowing.
That
was
something
that
we
did
for
a
long
time
and
it's
become
problematic
with
the
workload
of
all
the
stuff
that
the
other
guys
have
to
do.
B
So
we're
going
to
try
outsourcing
that
to
see
if
we
can
save
our
guys
to
do
some
other
things
that
they
need
to
do,
and
then
there's
also
some
tree
removal
and
tree
trimming
money
in
there
as
well.
We
have
a
tree
program
now,
so
we're
spending
a
lot
more
time,
money
and
effort,
taking
advantage
of
alexis's
skills
to
stay
on
top
of
trees,
especially
in
the
downtown
area,
and
I
think
that's
about
it.
Any
other
questions
there.
A
Yeah
I
had
one:
what
did
we
remove
from
the
department
request
for
capital
outlay?
I
can't
remember
capital
improvement
from
149
down
to
55.
B
A
A
B
A
B
As
I
mentioned
before,
this
is
another
division
that
crosses
the
million
mark
for
the
first
time,
but
large
part,
that's
because
of
some
of
the
capital.
Those
are
building
improvements.
All
those
first
three
items
are
all
building
improvements
at
cypress
forest
same
problem.
We
have
the
library,
we
got
a
lot
of
work.
We
need
to
get
done
over
there,
so
we
need
to
get
after
it
and
that's
not
one.
We
want
to
wait
because
then
we'll
end
up
with
kind
of
problems
we
have
from
ones
where
we
push
it
down
the
road
too
far.
B
B
One
of
the
things
I'll
I'll
come
across
on
the
capitol
is
the
bmx
project,
obviously
was
encumbered
this
year,
but
I
asked
and
it's
in
the
capital
projects
fund,
I
put
another
500
000
in
there
because
I'm
just
sure
then
it'll
probably
be
penny
money
which
the
council
had
already
blessed
committing
to
the
sports
improvements
that,
whether
it's
the
track
or
part
of
the
baseball
fields
or
something
something
else
is
going
to
come
up.
So
I
wanted
to
be
ready
for
that.
B
A
B
I
can
tell
you
we
got
a
nasty
little
surprise
was
the
discovery
that
wasn't
even
part
of
the
bid
that
there's
a
sewer
line
underneath
the
original
truck.
So
we
have
to
move
it.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
lovely
additional
expense,
but
it's
precisely
the
reason
that
we
put
some
extra
money
in
there.
We
anticipate
you
know,
there's
a
contingency,
there's
a
contingency
in
the
project,
but
this
will
actually
exceed
that.
But
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
just
you
know.
B
Big
problem
so
we're,
I
feel
much
more
comfortable.
How
does
that
even
happen?
You
know
with
what
we
did
the
first
time
around.
I
feel
much
more
comfortable
with
nan
as
the
project
manager
ardura
with
their.
I
go
to
those
meetings
and
I
think
cocalacas
thinks
they're
in
the
principal's
office,
but
those
guys
don't
miss
anything
tim's
all
over
them.
Everything
there.
B
We
have
a
little
bit
more
operating
funds
needed
mostly
in
other
contractual
services,
and
the
capital
is
a
tiny
bit
higher,
so
we're
up
7.5,
but
that's
where
we
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
our
money.
So
I
think,
that's
pretty
reasonable,
all
right
moving
on
communication
marketing
and
the
arts,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we're
recommending
that
we
promote
our
communication
specialist
mark
mcginley,
who
makes
some
of
the
greatest
pictures
and
presentations.
I
think
I've
ever
seen
to
a
multimedia
coordinator.
B
B
You
don't
want
to
make
promotions
based
on
specific
people's
talents,
but
it's
an
easy
thing
to
say
and
a
hard
thing
not
to
do,
but
he's
going
to
get
a
nice
promotion
if
you
guys
approve,
but
we're
going
to
ask
for
another
one
next
year,
because
his
skills
are
just
off
the
charts.
He.
A
B
Yeah
he's
extremely
talented-
I
mean
you
can
see
1700
in
this
particular
year,
but
I'll
pay
that
gladly.
Oh
we've
got
another
thing:
yeah
I'll
pay
that
globally,
because
sometimes
that
works
better
for
him,
not
the
money,
but
only
having
to
be
here
for
a
particular
time.
Instead
of
whenever
we
want
him
yeah,
we
tend
to
have
incredible
people
that
just
hang
out
here
all
the
time.
So.
B
B
Well,
we
are
going
to
increase
the
overtime
because
he
won't
be
salaried
until
you're
following
okay.
For
that.
For
that
reason,
I
just
couldn't
the
increase
for
what
we
wanted
to
pay
him
for
what
we
think
the
position
deserves
was
too
much.
I
couldn't
get
there
so
all
right,
so
personnel
is
only
up
4.8.
That
will
increase
a
little
bit
with
a
tiny
bit
more
overtime
because
it'll
still
be
hourly,
then
the
operating
is
up.
5.8
you
can
see.
We
put
the
art
and
public
places
money
back
in.
B
B
If
you
are
okay
and
even
though
the
department
is
18.8
higher,
if
we
hadn't
put
the
art
and
public
places
money
back
in
there,
the
increase
would
have
been
1.3,
so
pretty
reasonable
administrative
services-
page
110,
everything
pretty
much
straightforward
there
that
I
can
see
page
112
can
if
anybody
was
interested
in
wondering
since
it
is
part
of
this
most
of
our
cyber
security
improvement,
money
has
been
spent
or
encumbered
this
year.
B
So
the
reason
you're
not
seeing
all
kinds
of
things
in
the
capital
outlay
for
administrative
services
related
to
I.t
is
we're
already
on
it.
We're
already
spending
those
dollars,
there's
more
to
do
and
in
some
cases,
it'll
be
directly
expensed
to
a
different
fund,
but
for
it
stuff
a
lot
of
that
stuff
is
already
underway.
B
B
On
as
far
as
our
purchased
internet
pipe,
it's
that
it's
it's
reliable,
but
when
somebody
clips
it
a
contractor
or
whatever
we're
down
until
it's
fixed,
so
with
total
redundancy
it
might
in
it
through
the
ip
provider,
it
might
be
quicker
to
allow
them
to
go
the
other
way.
If
something
gets
clipped
here,
they
can
go
the
other
way,
not
saying
we'll,
never
be
down
again,
but
it's
about
20
grand.
It's
in
my
opinion,
worth
it
to
be
that
extra
touch
reliable,
that's
what
that's,
what
we're
shooting
for
there
all
right,
any
other
questions.
B
114,
we
got
fleet.
You
see
charlie's
position
on
115.
in
case
anybody
hasn't
seen
it
the
lower
right-hand
page
115.
B
That's
actually
a
picture
of
the
sandbag
thing
yeah,
which
is
kind
of
cool
and
then
to
the
left
is
that
49
re-olds
fire
truck
which
to
me
that
points
to
one
of
our
problems,
that
being
storage
and
maintenance
of
all
the
oldsmobiles
we
have,
but
that's
that's
a
garage
at
msc
that
we
have
a
few
cars
in
there
that
have
to
be
in
there
in
order
to
protect
them.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
tough
to
do.
B
B
Then
that
picture
on
the
upper
left-
I
don't
know
those
people
are,
but
they
look
happy.
Apparently
they
can't
be
here
all
right.
Moving
on
fleet
expenses,
pretty
straightforward,
as
I
said,
personnel's
up,
because
we
moved
charlie's
position
over
there.
The
operating
is
dead
tight
and
we
have
a
tiny
bit
for
a
couple
of
tools
in
capital,
so
we
can
move
on
unless
there's
any
questions
facilities
or
as
they
refer
to
themselves
after
they
won
their
last
award
from
zeros
to
heroes.
That's
what
they
refer
to
themselves
as
they
do
a
fabulous
job.
B
B
And,
of
course,
if
something
comes
from
above
they're
expected
to
drop
whatever
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
in
favor
of
doing
one
of
these
other
things,
and
I
always
feel
bad
about
it,
not
bad
enough
not
to
do
it,
but
I
feel
bad
about
it
and
they
are
incredible
in
terms
of
their
skill
set
and
their
willingness,
and
we
we
owe
them
a
great
deal
for
what
they
do
get
done.
So
the
particular
budget
there
is
pretty
straightforward,
you'll
see
the
overall
department
division
is
down
largely
because
the
capital
is
way
down.
B
I
think
we
had
a
large
capital
projects
in
the
building
capital
outlay
for
this
year,
so
we're
pretty
straightforward
there,
but
we
appreciate
all
that
they
do
and
then,
in
the
real
finish
to
general
fund.
If
you
go
to
one
page,
page
123
and
I'm
really
really
hesitant
to
do
this,
is
there
another
hurry
old
thing.
A
B
A
A
He's
he's
been
standing
over
your
shoulder
this
whole
time.
B
In
my
window,
so
let's
get
here
to
me
all
right,
so
123
is
where
I
was
the
united
front.
Transfers
we
talked
about
before
are
general
fund
dollars
or
resources
that
we
are
committing
elsewhere,
one
of
which
is
an
automatic
every
year
that
we
reinstated
it's
one,
tenth
of
a
mill
purpose,
being
it's
actually
taken
out
of
the
at
valorum
levy
and
it's
sent
to
the
public
safety
fund
for
major
capital
items.
We'll
talk
about
that
in
a
couple
minutes
when
we
get
to
that
fund.
That's
projected
this
year
upcoming
to
be
155
000..
B
The
other
one
is
a
transfer
to
the
harbor
palms
debt
service
for
next
year,
which
is
a
lot
more
316
980.
So
that's
the
total
of
471
980
out
of
general
fund
into
two
other
places
one
automatically
every
year.
The
second
one
will
be
automatically
probably
every
year
until
it's
paid
off
2033,
so
that
both
of
those
will
be
recurring
for
quite
a
few
years
ahead,
got
it
all
right,
the
reserve.
B
B
Now
I
maintain
that
to
you,
you'll
hear
one
month's
operating
expenses,
two
months
operating
expenses,
10
percent
of
the
budget,
blah
blah
blah.
So
this
doesn't
look
like
a
load
of
money.
If
you
look
in
years
past,
it's
less
than
it
has
been
it's
more
than
it
was
this
year,
but
it
can
be
depending
on
what
council
wants
it
to
be
much
higher?
The
key
feature
here
is
we
have
the
cash?
B
The
cash
is
the
most
important
part
of
what
you
need
here.
So
if
the
council
wanted
to
make
that
a
million
dollars
that
everybody
could
feel
good
about
themselves,
we
can
do
that,
but
the
only
other
way
to
do
that
to
keep
the
budget
balance
would
be
to
cut
six
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
four
hundred
and
forty
dollars
out
of
expenses
or
to
increase
that
appropriated
reserve
thing
I
was
telling
about
which
is
more
cash.
So
I'm
maintaining
or
asking
council's
intelligence
to
say
trust
me
on
this
one.
We
do
hit
this.
B
We
we
alter
this
with
budget
revisions.
On
occasion
we
spend
some
of
it,
but
we're
not
in
jeopardy
of
not
having
funds.
If
a
major
advan
a
major
emergency
hit,
and
that's
politically
what
a
lot
of
public
agencies
do
now,
I
can
get
too
deep
into
the
difference
between
the
appropriate
reserve
and
the
contingency
reserve,
but
for
now
I'd
say:
I'm
satisfied
with
this
and
recommend
this
is.
The
right
number
gives
us
a
bunch
of
balanced
budget.
Remember
that
the
property
reserve
is
2
million.
B
So
if
somebody
used
a
terminology
exp
that
explain
what
that
really
meant
I'd
be
impressed,
but
I
don't
want
to
go
there
right
now.
Just
means
we're
taking
two
million
dollars
in
cash
that
we
know
we
have
and
we're
using
that
to
appropriate
to
balance
this
budget
of
which
we're
ready
to
spend
365
000
of
emergencies.
Any
way
we
need
to
anybody
want
to
go
deeper
than
that.
A
No
yeah,
we
have
good
yeah,
we
have
the
cash
on
hand,
I
mean
we
get
it,
we
get
it
yeah,
and
there
is
another
thought
to
this-
that
if
you
look
at
the
legislature
over
the
years
when
they
start
to
look
at
cities
who
are
over
funded,
that
was
the
reason
they
came
out
if
you'll
recall
and
they
forced
a
reduction
in
the
military.
Yes
that
one
year,
and
so
maybe
maybe
it's
time
that
in
the
future,
we
look
at
the
terminology.
A
A
B
Every
year
once
we're
closed,
we
don't
usually
know
the
number
until
we're
closed
and
the
audit
work
is
complete,
which
can
be
march.
The
there's,
a
calculation
that
says
15
of
the
subsequent
years,
expenditures
in
the
general
fund
have
to
be
available
in
undefined
fund
balance
or
whatever.
We
call
it
this
week.
B
Unassigned
fund
balance,
which
means
essentially
equity,
that
you
can
do
anything
you
want
with
right.
So
as
long
as
we
meet
that
ratio
that
tells
you
that
we're
funded
enough
to
deal
with
any
of
those
emergencies
that
came
that
come
along
this
is,
you
know,
part
of
the
plan,
but
the
actual
reality
part
is:
if
we
didn't
meet
that
ratio,
we'd
have
to
do
a
budget
revision
to
cut
some
expenditures
right
then,
and
there
until
we
did
make
it.
We've
never
had
that
problem,
but
that
could
happen.
A
B
B
So
we
don't
have
the
problem,
but
whenever,
when
she
and
I
took
over
after
marnie
retired
bruce
used
to
like
to
increase
appropriate
reserve,
we
didn't
we
preferred
to
adjust
the
contingency
reserve
down,
because
that
was
reducing
an
expense
to
fund
something
else.
You
were
going
to
pay
for
some
other.
You
were
going
to
use
somewhere
else,
but
you
could
do
it
either
way
yeah,
you
could
do
it
either
way.
B
Okay,
quiz
later
take
notes.
Are
you
happy?
I'm
good?
I'm
happy
thank
you.
Okay,
we're
moving
right
along
page
130.
I
don't
know
whose
child
that
is
who's,
that
do.
We
know
barbara's
niece,
another
cutie,
131.
Okay,
here
are
the
special
revenue
funds.
We
should
be
able
to
move
pretty
good
on
these
here's,
the
first
one.
I
think
we
should
skip
this
okay.
This
is
the
public
safety
impact
fund.
You've
heard
me
say:
every
year
we
take
one
tenth
of
a
mill.
B
We
transfer
it
to
the
public
safety
fund
for
fire
capital
expenditures
and
then
jason
tries
to
spend
it
now.
We
did
say,
as
part
of
the
capital
budget,
the
capital
program
budget,
that
at
some
point
with
all
this
growth
they're
going
to
need
a
bigger
aerial,
a
bigger
ladder
right,
which
is
going
to
cost
a
fortune.
B
Of
course
he
wanted
to
buy
it
as
soon
as
we
gave
him
the
money,
I
said,
save
your
pennies,
which
he
was
gracious
enough
to
agree
with.
He
will
he's
not
smiling
under
there.
I
can
promise
you
the
particulars
of
it
were
I
wasn't
going
to
let
them
buy
it
until
we
had
the
money
to
pay
for
it.
I
think
our
latest
estimate
is
like
a
million
two
or
something
like
that,
so
it's
going
to
take
at
least
a
million
two
to
buy
it.
B
There's
a
question
about
whether
the
bay
is
big
enough
to
hold
it.
I
think
the
answer
is
yes,
we
need
a
longer
ladder
for
this
development.
Now
we
all
know
that
with
mutual
foot
with
mutual
aid,
everybody
and
their
mother
shows
up
to
a
fire
when
lockheed
had
a
fire.
Largo
was
here,
I
think
saint
pete
might
have
even
been
here,
there's
plenty
of
coverage,
but
for
the
optics
of
it
we
want
to
be
first
in
on
our
own
fires.
B
So
I
think
at
some
point
I
think
it
makes
good
sense
to
go
well
as
we
grow.
We
need
to
have
the
equipment
to
be
able
to
handle
whatever.
That
is.
I
hate
to
say
this,
because
we've
had
this
argument
about
the
band-aid
box
for
100
years,
but
we
looked
like
geniuses.
Well,
I
don't
like
to
say
that
part
when
there
was
one
year
when
the
county
was
considering
bailing
on
the
renewal
of
the
amr
contract,
the
paramedics
plus
what
we
got
sunstar.
B
Thank
you
and
they
went
around
to
all
the
cities
and
said:
okay,
if
we
go
to
for,
if
we
go
to
your
unit
transport,
what
do
you
need
and
saint
pete
needed
like
120
ambulances,
and
but
you
know
it
was
never
going
to
happen.
They
came
to
us.
He
said:
what
do
you
need
to
go?
Nothing.
We
got
a
band-aid
box,
we
we
have
an
ambulance,
we're
good.
So
the
fourth
thought
is
suits
us.
Well,
it's
expensive,
but
it
suits
us.
Well,
so
I
would
say
for
his
purposes,
he
saves
up
enough
money.
B
Okay,
it's
time
to
research,
what
the
extra
length
lateral
you
got
a
75
now
he's
got
a
75.
Now
he
probably
needs
100
but
they're
expensive
anyway,
all
right.
So
the
everything
that
jumps
out
of
this
page
should
be
explained
with
those
two
things.
When
you
see
a
reserve
for
equipment
on
the
expenditure
side,
that
simply
means
whatever
revenue
we
have.
It
doesn't
have
a
plan
for
use
yet
so
we
save
it
as
a
reserve
to
that
point.
That'll
be
part
of
what
we're
saving
for
the
new
aerial,
all
right.
B
Moving
on
parkland
dedication,
scientific
formula
in
the
code
about
new
construction,
either
paying
a
fee
or
donating
a
piece
of
land,
it
tends
to
be
all
over
the
map.
We
do
have
some
planned
expenditure
for
preserve
improvements.
It's
a
special
revenue
fund.
We
have
to
spend
it
on
certain
things.
This
would
be
a
good
example
of
those
things,
so
the
other
thing
we're
doing
on
the
expenditure
side
on
page
135
is
that
the
hundred
do
you
see
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
capital
grant?
B
Sorry
capital
transfer,
and
the
portion
of
that
is
going
to
the
capital
projects
fund
for
there's
an
osc
renovation
grant
which
we're
getting
some
funds
for
this
will
pay
for
the
other
piece
again
restricted
what
you
can
do
with
it,
but
it's
an
acceptable
use
in
osc,
so
we're
transferring
some
of
the
funds
for
that.
Okay,
the
multimodal
impact
fund
kind
of
has
slowed
down
to
a
crawl.
We
do
track
the
impact
fee
funds
in
the
cra,
but
this
is
kind
of
a
real,
tough
guess
and
you
can
read,
the
service
program
hasn't
changed.
B
B
That's
still
true,
that's
part
of
the
ordinance,
but,
as
you
can
see,
there's
not
much
activity
planned
for
that
as
we
get
burbank
finished,
as
we
get
other
things
done,
this
should
perk
up
again.
This
we've
we've
got
part
of
a
master
plan
that
has
a
lot
of
activity
here,
but
right
now
we're
kind
of
in
savings
mode
we're
just
taking
whatever
money
we
get
for
it
and
turning
our
four
percent
over
and
keeping
the
rest
of
it.
B
B
There's
a
lot
of
restrictions
on
the
use
of
the
funds
we
have
been
audited
two
years
ago.
Five,
three
years
ago,
a
few
years
ago,
we
were
audited
with
five
other
cras
by
the
county,
ken
burke's
office,
and
we
came
out
of
that.
Looking
very
good.
In
fact,
they
asked
us.
They
asked
to
use
our
forms
to
give
to
the
other
agencies
that
they
were
after.
B
So
we
came
out
of
looking
pretty
good,
there's
a
restriction
on
what
you
can
do
with
it
when
you
have
to
spend
it
by
and
there
it's
not
quite
as
easy
as
just
kind
of
saying.
Here's
extra
money.
As
you
know,
the
fun
comes
from
the
county-wide
portion
of
the
millage
that
everybody
pays
in
the
cra.
So
those
same
people
say
that
live
down
here
who
are
paying
property
taxes,
a
a
portion
of
their
property
taxes
is
coming
to
us
beyond
just
the
portion.
They
pay
us.
B
That's
what
that
whole
cra
thing
is
in
in
2026.
That's
going
to
end
now
we
might
ask
for
permission,
I'm
not
even
going
to
comment
on
the
likelihood
that
we'll
get
a
renewal
or
some
other
deal,
but
we
could
ask
for
permission
to
extend
it
at
this
point.
I
don't
think
we'd
get
it,
but
it
is
possible,
but
if
we
don't
get
it,
our
next
plan
has
to
be.
You
know
what
happens
with
life
after
the
cra,
so
you'll
see
here
in
terms
of
the
revenues.
B
The
regular
ad
valorem
for
that
area
is
the
first
line.
The
third
line
is
the
piece
we
get
from
advent
of
the
county,
which
generally
is
about
five
or
ten
percent
more
than
what
we
generate
on
our
own.
The
rest
is
either
interest
and
in
a
sense,
when
you
see
that
723
figure,
that's
again
my
way
of
saying
we're
going
to
use
cash
to
help
pay
for
some
of
the
improvements
that
are
on
the
other
page.
That's
how
we
fund
them.
The
rest
is
pretty
straightforward.
B
B
Okay
debt
service
for
veterans
memorial
park.
This
is
in
existence.
It's
already
done.
The
revenue
already
done.
The
sense
of
authority
been
in
existence
for
as
long
as
the
debt
has.
This
will
have.
This
budget
will
be
the
last
payment,
won't
happen
until
9,
30
or
22,
and
then
the
good
news
from
that
is
the
revenues
are,
as
you
can
see
funded.
I
told
you
before
that
our
funding
comes
from
dedicated
revenue
sources
and
not
taxes
that
utility
tax
money
was
dedicated
to
pay
this.
B
B
The
debt
service
summary
combines
all
the
pieces.
You
remember,
I
talked
about
the
general
fund
transfer
of
three
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
nine
eighty
with
it
also
has
an
enterprise
portion,
so
the
316
is
coming
from
the
transfer
and
this
is
to
pay
for
the
governmental
portion
of
harbor
palms.
There's
an
enterprise
portion
and
the
best
way
to
think
of
that
is
governmental
portion
is
roads.
Streets,
sidewalks
and
curbs
the
enterprise
portion
is
everything
under
the
ground,
but
we
had
to
separate.
B
We
had
to
book
them
separately,
so
this
is
a
piece
it
will
be
combined
with
the
payment,
but
this
represents
the
debt
service
that
will
be
necessary
for
the
roadway
or
the
governmental
piece,
all
right.
Moving
on
144
145
capital
improvement
fund,
the
big
stuff,
usually
okay,
I
mentioned
on
page
144
that
you
saw
the
harper
palms
money
or
the
projects
for
the
harbor
palms
have
been
split
up
based
on
their
function,
meaning
the
governmental
function,
the
storm
water
piece
or
the
water
and
sewer
piece,
so
you'll
see
them
in
different
places.
B
B
That's
our
annual
or
semi-annual
or
whatever
the
every
other
year
thing
is
that
we
try
and
knock
off
a
road
number
of
streets
every
year,
and
then
the
sidewalk
and
curb
replacement
would
be
bigger
stuff
that
we
have
to
do
around
the
city
and
then
douglas
road
creeps
in
there
for
the
first
time
now.
Those
of
you
think
that
number's
wrong-
it's
not
got
to
remember
the
douglas
wrote
on
the
other
piece
from
the
revenue
was
a
million
dollars.
B
First
right,
the
million
five
was
this
year,
which
we
have
to,
I
think
encumber
in
a
couple
of
years
or
no
later,
so
we're
only
getting
around
to
the
beginning
of
that.
So
that's
why
the
project
number
on
the
revenue
side
is
only
1
million
because
we're
just
starting
the
douglas
project.
The
last
one
I
wanted
to
mention
there
was
you
see
the
osc
bmx
improvements.
That's
at
500
000.
I
suggested
out
of
penny
money
if
it's
needed
to
cover
whatever
happens.
B
That's
unexpected,
because
the
council
had
already
blessed
oldsmore
sports,
complex
improvements
as
part
of
our
commitment
of
the
penny
money.
So
that's
you
know
hope
we
don't
have
to
use
it,
but
we
know
of
one
place
where
we're
probably
going
to
use
it
somewhat
already.
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
a
few
other
things,
so
we
got
about
5
million
in
governmental
capital
projects
to
be
started,
we'd
love
to
believe
they're
be
done,
but
they
won't
and
to
be
started
by
next
year,
and
that's
where
we're
at
any
questions
all
right.
B
Let's
move
on,
we
got
cool
pickleball
people
on
page
146.
still
don't
understand
why
the
ball
doesn't
go
in
the
lake
more
often
page,
147.
Okay,
now
we're
on
enterprise
funds.
Enterprise
funds,
as
we
talked
about
before,
are
funded
by
generally
user
rates.
Your
rates
are
supposed
to
be
your
primary
funding
source.
It's
not
a
crime,
if
they're,
not
if
they're,
not
predominant,
but
generally
speaking,
the
same
way.
The
theory
about
funding
general
fund
is
by
taxes.
Well,
you
don't
normally
want
to
fund
an
enterprise
with
taxes.
B
You
want
to
fund
it
with
how
much
money
people
charge
for
the
commodity,
which
in
our
case
is
water,
bruce
used
to
say
at
the
beginning.
We
only
sell
one
product
water.
That's
the
only
thing
we
have
services,
but
we
only
sell
one
product
now
that
may
have
changed,
but
that's
the
essence
of
it.
Okay,
so
this
page
is
one
of
those
really
cool
pages
that
describes
all
of
the
divisions
inside
the
fund.
B
This
you've
heard
us
say
this
is
fun
401,
so
you'll
see
the
recommended
totals
you'll
also
see
the
change
from
this
year's
revised
budget,
and
the
one
that
jumps
out
to
me
is
the
water
reclamation
facility,
which
we
mentioned,
has
two
huge
projects
that
we
absolutely
have
to
do,
one
being
the
aeration
building,
the
other
way
being
the
lab.
So
we
want
to
get
after
those
and
we've
already
encountered
that
which
one
is
it
that's
going
to
be
more
expensive
already,
the
control
building
has
already
gone
up
by
another
million
and
a
half.
B
We
fear,
so
this
number
is
going
to
increase
even
more.
I
still
maintain
we
can
do
it.
Arpa
obviously
will
help,
but
I
say
that
the
fund,
the
401
fund,
is
in
very
good
shape.
We
can
do
it
either
way
and
the
part
of
the
proof
to
that
is:
go
back
to
the
harbor
palms
project,
it's
about
12
million
dollars
of
work
to
be
done
and
remember
we
expressed
when
we
needed
to
take
debt.
B
We
wanted
to
take
as
little
debt
as
possible,
so
we
set
out
to
take
six
million,
so
we
had
half
in
equity
or
cash
half
in
debt.
Well,
the
equity
portion
for
the
most
part
was
going
to
come
from
401.
That's
how
confident
we
were
so
as
the
thing
has
spread,
because
stormwater
has
gotten
very
expensive.
The
general
fund
portion
is
pretty
expensive.
B
B
All
right
you'll
also
see
that
the
debt
service
on
that
line
is
down
92.6.
The
reason
for
that
has
more
to
do
with
this
year's
column
than
it
does
next
years.
It's
down
that
much
simply
because,
in
order
to
refund
the
srf
money
we
had
to
in
essence
take
it
out
again,
so
we
paid
it
off.
We
paid
five
million
dollars
to
pay
it
off
in
order
to
then
redo
the
debt.
That's
why
it
looks
like
such
a
whopping
reduction.
B
All
right
moving
on
page
150,
this
goes
back
to
that
kind
of
more
detailed
picture
of
the
pie
graph
that
we've
shown
for
the
whole
city
and
we've
shown
it
for
the
general
fund.
Well,
401
is
our
largest
enterprise
fund.
So
we
see
it
here
and
you'll
see
the
personal
services
percentage.
There
is
really
good.
B
Only
23
you'll
see
that
the
operating
is
even
lower
at
18,
but
you'll
see
the
capital
is
a
whopping
one,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
there
and
that's
pretty
normal,
because
that
is
where
you
do:
capital
projects
for
enterprise
related
things
specific
to
water
and
sewer.
It's
not
governmental,
it's
funded
by
rates
and
in
some
cases
debt.
So
here
on
page
151,
we
have
the
revenue
profile
for
that
fund
and
you'll
see
the
effect
in
water
sales
wastewater
sales
of
the
pandemic.
B
The
pandemic
actually
was
an
increase
for
our
experience
in
both
usage
and
therefore
revenue
of
both
of
those,
our
two
big
ticket
items,
water
and
waste
water,
because
people
stayed
home.
That's
we
didn't
necessarily
think
that
was
going
to
happen
at
the
beginning,
but
that's
the
way
it
turned
out,
so
that
turned
out
to
be
kind
of
an
odd
positive
for
the
fund
and
then
the
two
lines
down
at
the
bottom
that
were
big
chunks,
we're
850
000.
B
Well,
the
aeration
system
upgrades
constitute
a
maintenance
or
expansion
of
the
system,
so
we're
taking
the
funds
that
we've
been
saving
there
for
years
and
we're
using
the
sewer
portion
right
we're
using
the
sewer
portion
transferring
it
over
here
to
help
pay
for
that
aeration
control
project,
the
other
one
is
the
appropriated
reserve,
which
is
that's
the
cash
I'm
referring
to
for
the
harbor
pumps
all
right.
So
you
see
that
it
had
very
little
last
year,
but
that's
the
money
we
anticipate
all
right.
B
So
we
had
14
3
against
this
year's
15
so
that
it
actually
came
down
a
tiny
bit
now.
In
the
enterprise
funds,
if
it
comes
down
a
little
bit
or
increases
a
little
bit,
that's
usually
the
result
of
a
capital
project
ebb
and
flow.
When
we
get
to
the
specific
divisions.
That's
where
you
see
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
difference.
All
right,
152,
153,
we'll
see
finance
through
division,
you'll
see
some
of
the
same
positions
with
notations.
B
If
somebody
works,
you
did
that
in
the
other
one,
but
not
this
one
in
finance
division.
Some
of
these
people
also
work
for
cindy.
In
fact,
all
of
them
do
as
part
of
the
administrative
division,
directed
administrative
services,
department,
sorry
and
then
page
153.
The
personnel
you'll
see
that
layout
there's
a
minor
change
in
utility
billing
due
to
a
departure
and
some
reshuffling,
but
other
than
that.
It's
pretty
much
the
same,
and
on
page
154
we're
pretty
straightforward
the
change
between
this
and
next
year.
It's
actually
down
a
tiny
bit.
B
The
increase
in
the
personal
services
is
7.5,
which
is
certainly
reasonable,
and
the
operating
got
even
tighter
and
down
by
20.5
and,
as
I
said,
the
whole
division
is
down
by
about
a
thousand
dollars
all
right
and
moving
on
page
156
utilities
maintenance
division.
This
is
public
works
where
the
utilities,
guys
that
fix
everything,
pumps
motors
whatever
they
need
fixed
utility
maintenance.
Does
this
and
there's
four
guys,
and
maybe
for
the
first
time
that
I
can
remember
we're
fully
staffed?
I
think
we're
always
down
one,
and
we
finally
well
sorry
knock
on
wood.
B
B
I
fought
like
hell
over
this,
but
I
acquiesced
the
I
was
on
a
project
nan
and
I
were
both
me
and
charlie,
and
I
were
both
at
this
project
when
a
car
hit
a
water
pipe
that
was
the
big
36
inch
or
whatever
it
was
feed
to
eastlake
club.
This
was
a
year
or
so
ago
and
in
the
course
of
us
fixing
it
because
we
couldn't
get
a
contractor
to
come
out
and
fix
it.
B
We
had
to
shut
off
the
entire
east
lake
club,
whatever
it
is,
250
apartments
or
something
and
the
guys
are
all
there
busting
their
tail,
and
we
have
to
take
this
humongous
pipe
and
then
get
it
out
of
there,
because
it
was
damaged
and
straight
pipe.
It
yeah
literally
go
to
the
shop,
get
a
big
piece
of
stripe
pipe
and
get
it
connected
for
a
temporary
fix
point
being
the
best
thing
we
could
do
to
move.
B
It
was
this
crappy
little
train
truck
and
it
very
versatile,
very
limited
and,
I
venture
to
say
we
violated
some
osha
regulations
in
the
process
of
because
the
guys
knew
we
had
to
get
this
fixed.
So
I
fought
like
hell
because
again,
I'm
not
thrilled
with
paying
a
mortgage
to
get
a
crane
truck
good
thing,
it'll
be
cash,
but
they
desperately
need
this,
and
I'm
not
even
sure
is
this
a
greater
capacity
length
than
the
one
you
got.
Or
is
this
just
another
one?
This
one
is
6
000
k,
450
chassis,
which
is.
B
Youtube
anna's
working
with
cody
a
little
bit
more
than
we
budgeted
it
good
she's
she's
pissed
at
you
for
saying
that,
so
the
deal
is
now.
If
we
have
that
same
problem,
we'll
have
two
chances
or
two
trucks
to
be
able
to
use
for,
but
absolutely
need
this.
It's
amazing
how
versatile
that
thing
is,
and
we've
probably
worn
this
one
out.
This
is
a
new
one.
You
know,
like,
I
said,
not
to
live
with
the
price,
but
we
absolutely
have
to
have
it
so
on
the
on
159.
B
Most
of
the
increase,
the
personnel
and
operating
are
very
reasonable
is
because
of
the
cost
of
the
crane
truck
all
right.
So,
let's
move
on
to
d
and
c
d
and
c
we
used
to
call
the
water
division.
Now
we
kind
of
separate
it
more
by
function,
since
utilities,
maintenance
is
fixing
everything
d
and
c
is
the
lines
anything
to
do
with
the
lines.
You'll
see
all
of
these
guys
in
the
hole.
Every
time
we
get.
Somebody
clipping
something,
but
we
have
different
functions
now.
B
We
have
to
leave
somebody
in
the
office
or
we
don't
have
enough
guys
in
the
field
and
certainly
we
could
use
five
of
these
guys,
but
partially
because
of
the
labor
shortage
in
the
in
the
fee
and
the
thought
that
a
lot
of
our
people
and
rightfully
so
on.
I
think
this
is
a
good
thing
stick
around
for
a
while
and
then
they
go,
and
I
can't
make
any
more
money
here,
but
they
could
if
they
took
because
we
pay
for
the
certification
we
pay
for
the
school,
they
could
get
certified
in
water.
B
B
B
If
this
will
work,
we'll
come
back
at
you
for
maybe
more
of
them
the
idea
being
to
try
and
universally
be
able
to
use
them
to
either
sub
for
people
that
can
give
us
some
skill
somewhere
in
the
field
or
be
in
the
field
if
they
have
the
skills
to
allow
somebody
that
has
to
stay
home.
Great
example
is
the
ro
the
ro
we
somebody's
got
to
be
there
if
we're
open,
and
sometimes
that's
almost
impossible
to
do
without
calling
somebody
else
in.
So
that's
the
thought.
B
We
hope
council
will
support
that
for
now
it's
woefully
under
what
we
really
need,
but
I
thought,
let's
just
see
if
we
can
get
one
and
see
if
it
works.
Okay,
all
right
so
d
and
c,
the
actual
numbers
you'll
see
on
page
162,
the
water
palms,
the
harbor
palms
water
main
replacement.
That
piece
I
was
talking
about
for
a
million
ten
we're
paying
for
that
in
cash
there's
quite
a
bit
of
other
capital
stuff
there,
which
we
went
over
the
capital
budget
workshop.
B
The
personnel
stuff
is
a
tiny
bit
higher
because
of
that
added
position,
sorry
tiny
bit
higher
than
normal.
Because
of
that
position
and
the
expense
allocation.
I
mentioned
that
in
the
miscellaneous
category
of
revenues
in
the
general
fund.
That's
our
calculations
kind
of
an
academic
formula
for
what
we're
charging
this
division
for
services
rendered
to
it
by
the
general
fund.
You'll
see
it
in
a
couple
of
other
places
as
well
as
you
can
see,
capital
is
a
little
bit
more,
but
it's
very
very
expensive.
B
So
the
grand
total
is
a
little
bit
over
three
three
million.
Now
we're
going
to
get
to
the
big
hitters,
which
is
page
184
185,
the
wrf
in
the
water
reclamation
division,
you'll,
see
on
page
166
that
the
control
building
improvements
and
the
aeration
system
upgrades
we
added
both
of
those
in
because
of
arpa.
That
was
our
purpose.
We
were
like
saying
we
we
need
to
do
these,
that
lab
building's
been
obsolete
for
10
years.
Probably
so
we
decided
we
got
to
commit
to
it.
I
said
to
jonah
and
nan.
B
B
If
they
don't
that's,
okay,
we
can
re-budget,
but
I
want
to
make
that
commitment
to
saying
we're
getting
after
both
of
those
they're,
both
multi-year
projects,
but
you
can
even
make
the
argument
we
better
get
after
about
them
because
the
price
keeps
going
up
and
we,
as
we
mentioned,
that
aeration
system
upgrade
is
probably
already
up
to
over
4
million.
So
we'll
come
back
to
you
with
the
pieces
that
have
to
go
in
front
of
council
there's
an
ardura
there's
a
there's,
an
agenda
item
for
tomorrow.
That's
sorry,
that's
related
to
douglas.
B
I
think
right.
No
is
that
related
to
the
douglas,
it's
related
to
this
yeah.
So
it's
a
different
piece.
It's
the
engineering
piece
kind
of
the
pre
stuff,
but
that's
one
of
the
that's
how
we
found
out
that
the
price
had
already
increased,
since
we
did
the
capital
budget
so
you'll
see
on
this
page
in
167,
personal
services
are
pretty
much
5
5.5,
that's
very
reasonable
operating
is
tight
even
down
a
little
bit.
The
entire
increase
is
really
coming
from
the
improvements
on
those
two
projects
and
we
again
we
say
they're
urgent
unsexy.
B
My
only
comment
here
is:
we
are
struggling
still
for
bodies,
we're
trying
to
hire
more
people,
get
more
trainees,
we've
we're
giving
a
shot
to
pretty
much
anybody
that
wants
a
shot
and
it's
still
a
challenge
and
we're
not
we're
not
open
24
hours,
but
we
produce
water
for
16..
We've
got
a
lot
of
responsibilities
in
the
field
on
the
well
sites.
A
B
That
we
should
have
been
doing
now,
but
now
we've
already
been
bitten
by
that
once
here
and
for
those
who've
been
around
for
a
while,
we
tried
to
save
20
grand
when
we
had
some
working
video
equipment
over.
You
probably
remember
this.
At
the
when
the
mail
in
the
post
office
was
the
council
chamber,
we
brought
it
over
here
to
fix
up
with
the
180
000
we
were
putting
in
for
video
equipment
and
the
video
equipment
didn't
work.
It
was
a
disaster.
B
It
was
a
total
disaster,
so
we're
not
making
that
mistake
again
we're
going
to
spend
what
we
got
to
spend,
get
it
right
and
I
didn't
want
to
throw
more
money
after
upgrading,
something
that
we
knew.
We
were
then
just
going
to
level
when
we
got
rid
of
the
actual
lab
building,
so
we're
waiting
and
we're
dealing
with
all
those
issues
that
come
along
with
those
two
communicating,
but
we're
waiting
until
we
do
those
that
upgrade.
B
So
you
saw
a
scada
upgrade
part
of
in
one
of
those
budgets
we're
waiting
till
all
of
those
come
to
fruition
or
come
to
the
front
burner
all
right.
So
the
really
not
much
to
talk
about
on
the
ro
that
hasn't
already
been,
you
know,
beaten
to
death
and
the
like,
I
said,
personnel.
B
We
need
more
people
and
we're
still
working
on
that.
We
see
the
capital
you
can
see
there,
as
I
said,
has
some
of
the
scada
was
actually
a
continuation
of
stuff
we've
already
encumbered
and
the
water
supply
plan
is
related
to
the
what's
the
name
of
it
resilience.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
that's
another
thing
we've
committed
to
doing
so
there's
nothing
overly
exciting
about
the
numbers
here,
other
than
know
that
we're
continually
busting
to
try
and
get
more
people
get
more
labor
and
continually
upgrade
everything.
That's
that's
the
takeaway,
we're
upgrading
everything
all
right,
any
questions.
Now
we
got
environmental
management.
B
I
think
most
of
you
would
agree-
and
I
can
say
this
from
my
heart-
the
I
think
garrett
was
among
our
first
substitute
environment.
What
do
you
call
it?
Sustainability
coordinators
we've
had
a
sustainability
coordinator
from
julie
for
about
10
years
right.
B
Has
it
been
that
long?
However?
Long
it's
been,
ashley
has
just
blown
it
out
of
the
water
she's
wonderful.
She
lives
it.
You
know
she
lives
like
with
zero
waste
and
she
has
all
kinds
of
great
ideas.
I
I
really
very
impressed
I'm
again
violating
my
own
principle
of
saying
I
don't
generally
like
the
idea
of
trying
to
promote
people
instead
of
positions,
but
she's
done
so
much
with
the
position.
B
We're
asking
for
council
to
approve
a
promotion
for
ashley.
That
is
probably
overdue,
but
I
want
I
want
to
put
that
in
there
now,
which
explains
why
the
personal
services
figure
is
a
little
higher
than
five
right.
Okay,
the
capital
is
pretty
straightforward.
There
is
a
new
vehicle
in
the
budget
and
there's
that
wind
classification
and
flood
exposure
study
so
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
more
of
those
big
picture
items
as
they
relate
to
environmental
management.
B
We
needed
to
do
that.
We
weren't
doing
that,
and
I
know
most
you
remember.
We
almost
got
leveled
by
an
illegal
discharge
in
public
which
drove
that
point
home,
but
now
we
have
it,
we
we
inspect
them
all
every
year.
That's
not
a
perfect
system
where
you
inspect
every
one
of
them.
We
can
every
year,
but
it's
ongoing.
We
have
a
person
that
does
nothing
but
pay
attention
to
that.
So
this
is
this
division
I
think,
is
money
very
well
spent,
even
though
it's
not
that
old
you'll
see
the
like.
B
I
said
the
personal
services
is
a
little
higher
than
five
because
of
what
I'm
asking
for
ashley
for
the
promotion
and
the
grand
total
is
a
lot
less,
mostly
because
the
capital
was
reduced
when
the
resiliency
plan
was
in
this
year's
budget.
That
was,
I
think,
100
and
a
quarter
all
right.
Moving
on
debt
service
in
401.
B
I
explained
this
to
everybody
before
this
is
the
srf
refi,
nothing
else,
no
hp,
nothing
related
to
harbor
palms.
This
is
the
magic
that
is
the
remaining
payments
we
have
to
make
because
we
refi
the
srf
loans,
of
which
there
were
three
and
we
even
paid
them
down
a
little
at
that
point.
So
very
good.
Use
of
the
money
we
can
afford
that
easily
it'll
final
maturity,
2032.
B
all
right,
the
water
and
sewer
operating
fund
reserves
and
transfers.
This
is
kind
of
like
the
inter
fund.
Sorry,
the
reserves
in
general
fund
a
little
bit
different
in
an
enterprise
fund.
It's
actually
called
reserve
and
replacement,
so
it
does
function
as
a
budget
balancer,
but
it's
supposed
to
only
be
used
for
something
that
enhances
or
maintains
the
useful
life
of
the
system.
So
it
has
a
little
bit
more
literal
meaning,
but
it
tends
to
function
as
a
budget.
B
Balancer
and
again
I
maintain
without
getting
too
far
into
the
weeds
about
our
cash
position.
401
is
probably
our
strongest
fund,
so
we're
doing
fine,
okay,
water
and
sewer
impact
fund.
I
expressed
to
you
that
we
used
some
of
that
money.
You
see
that
850
000,
so
you
can
see
how
it
flows
in
the
budget.
It
sat
in
cash
in
this
fund
because
it
was
restricted
by
the
paragraphs
you'll
see
on
180.
B
We
found
a
use
for
it.
We
need
to
use
it
for
one
of
those
projects
so
the
way
it
flows
is
you
got
to
recognize
it
as
appropriate,
observe
as
which
functions
as
a
revenue
in
the
fund.
Then
you
recognize
it
as
an
expense
transfer
to
where
it's
going,
and
you
saw
it
as
a
revenue
on
the
incoming
side
on
fund
401,
where
it's
going
to
be
used
to
help
pay
for
that
project.
Okay,
so
it's
restricted,
but
now
we're
using
some
of
it.
We
had
it.
We
were
saving
it
in
cash
stormwater.
B
So
our
next
one
page
182.,
the
director,
the
lineup,
is
pretty
much
the
exact
same.
The
only
thing
I
say
is
like
we
were
taking
one
of
the
guys
that
was
already
here
and
we
were
planning
on
making
him
the
direct
supervisor,
so
they'll
be
a
supervisor
of
each
field.
Division,
we're
not
hiring
him
from
the
outside,
at
least
at
this
point,
we're
using
the
ones
that
we
already
have
so
charlie
will
be
over
the
fleet
and
the
other
two
guys
will
be
one
streets.
B
One
stormwater,
as
you
can
tell
the
funding,
is
different
because
stormwater
is
an
enterprise
fund,
so
funded
by
user
rates,
which
citizens
pay
and
you
see
a
whopping,
a
couple
things
on
the
revenue
side
and
page
184,
no
rate
increase.
I
we
were
studying
before
arpa
came
along
a
rate
increase
of
probably
a
buck,
and
we
were
thinking
we
needed
that
largely
because
we
knew
we
needed
to
generate
enough
money
to
pay
the
debt
service
on
the
storm
order
portion
of
the
harbor
palms
project.
In
other
words,
you
use
you're,
making
stormwater
work.
B
You
got
to
pay
for
it
with
stormwater
money.
So
if
you
look
at
the
kafir
each
year
up
until
about
the
last
two
years,
the
stormwater
fund
operates
about
breakeven,
which,
in
the
pure
in
the
pure
theory,
is
good
means
you're
charging
the
right
rate,
because
you
don't
make
money,
you
don't
lose
money.
Now,
we've
made
a
little
money
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
We
did
some
consulting
work
that
led
to
some
refining
our
billings,
making
it
more
accurate
that
paid
off.
B
Now
we
knew
we
had
to
generate
about
200
thousand
dollars
in
debt
service
to
pay
for
the
stormwater
portion
of
the
harbor
bombs
fund.
Along
comes
the
arpa
money
which
makes
that
a
whole
lot
easier.
You'll
see
that
as
a
revenue
that
says
federal
grant.
Arpa.
That's
projected
to
be
a
large
chunk
of
3.7
minus
that
300
000,
that
you
saw
in
that
storm
motor.
Sorry
that
spreadsheet,
before
that's
dedicated
or
going
to
be
dedicated
towards
doing
projects
in
stormwater.
B
Part
of
that
would
be
the
harbor
palms,
drainage
improvements
and
then
the
I
think
related
to
douglas
is
that
the
other
one
yeah,
the
other
one,
is
douglas
the
drainage
portion
of
douglas
okay.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
what
that's
going
to
be
earmarked
for,
because
of
that
no
rate
increase
good
news,
the
other
page
in
185.
B
Really,
you
saw
my
comment
about
the
debt
service,
which
is
now
worked
in
here,
because
we
now
are
going
to
make
our
first
payment
on
that
debt
service
loan
that
we
took
for
the
project
211.
So
we
needed
200
000
extra
dollars
in
storm
order
to
make
that
payment.
We
now
have
that
because
of
the
arpa
money,
so
we
didn't
have
to
generate
a
rate
increase
to
get
it
all
right.
B
So
moving
on
last,
and
certainly
not
least,
the
big
solid
waste
fund,
page
188,
pretty
straightforward,
no
capital
assets,
we
don't
own
any
of
the
trucks
we
hire
a
hauler
and
the
particulars
or
that
our
commercial
activity
tends
to
increase
no
matter
what
we
do,
so
we
increased
it
by
a
little
bit
more
and
the
expense
allocation,
as
you
see,
is
quite
a
bit
more.
But
that's
again,
it's
an
exercise.
B
We
go
through
every
year
to
decide
what
percentage
to
charge
the
enterprise
funds
for
billing
and,
in
some
cases,
your
your
work
that
general
fund
provides
to
the
enterprise
funds
and
that's
how
we
came
up
with
those
numbers.
The
reality
of
what
that's
going
to
look
like
next
year
totally
depends.
We
didn't
need
a
rate
increase,
because
the
rate
that
was
bid
was
so
good,
I'm
glad
to
say
I
was
wrong,
but
if
you
saw
what
republic
bid,
I
wasn't
wrong
right.
It's
just
a
matter
of
well.